July 7, 2025 • 51 mins
The moment Fire Cash stepped into the Girl Please studio, we knew we were in for something special. This wasn't just another artist promotion—it was a rare glimpse into the mind of a musician on the cusp of transformation.
Fresh off the release of his album Vibes 2, Fire Cash breaks down his musical journey from rapper to R&B artist, revealing how this pivot dramatically expanded his fanbase and streaming numbers. "Everything just multiplied once I really switched over and started making R&B my primary," he shares, while still promising fans that his rap skills haven't disappeared. The album itself is a summer-ready collection spanning multiple vibes—from sensual slow jams to energetic Afrobeats featuring collaborators from Ghana.
What truly sets this conversation apart is Fire Cash's vulnerability about his plans to pursue therapy before his next album. Inspired by Kendrick Lamar's raw honesty on Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers, he confesses, "I don't really think I've done enough as far as being vulnerable and telling my story." This moment of self-awareness reveals an artist eager to evolve beyond catchy hooks to more meaningful storytelling.
Throughout our discussion, fascinating contradictions emerge: a performer comfortable commanding stages yet self-conscious in personal interactions; a discerning observer who notices everything yet struggles with emotional expression; an artist who turned down major label deals to protect his creative freedom yet understands the business value of accessibility. Perhaps most telling was his admission about habitually using his hair as a "mask" in photos and on album covers—a physical manifestation of emotional guardedness he's now ready to shed.
Whether you're a longtime fan or discovering Fire Cash for the first time, this episode offers an authentic look at artistic growth, the courage it takes to pursue personal development, and the exciting possibilities that emerge when creativity meets vulnerability. Stream Vibes 2 now on all platforms and follow @FIYACA$H on social media to join him on this evolving journey.
• Fire Cash explains how switching from rap to R&B multiplied his fanbase and streaming numbers
• Planning to pursue therapy before his next album to tap into deeper vulnerability and storytelling
• Turned down major label deals to maintain creative control despite financial opportunities
• Describes using his hair as a "mask" and being self-conscious despite stage confidence
• Opens up about past relationship experiences and attempts at polygamy
• E
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Girl Please, where we dive into real
conversations, real laughs andreal life.
Just a quick note the views andopinions expressed on this show
are our own and don't representanyone else's.
We keep it fun, open and honest, so let's get into it.
This is Girl Please.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
This is another episode.
I am your host Jessica, and I'myour host Carmen, and this is
Girl.
Please, the podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I swear I'm breaking bad.
Oh yeah, best believe you gon'come for red.
Oh yeah, yeah, just to let youknow you can't take my soul, but
you did it to me.
I swear I'm breaking bad.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
All right, y'all, we're going to get right into
the wind down, but first let usintroduce our guest.
This is Mr Fire Cash.
Would you like to introduceyourself With the goals?
Okay, thank you so much forcoming and spending time with us
.
We're going to kind of get intoit Some personal things, along
with your music, of course,because you just dropped an
(01:09):
album That'll be Vibes 2.
Vibes 2, which is super dope.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
How do you say that Vibes?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
2.
Vibes 2.
All right, let's start with thewine down Today we have a
roscato.
He doesn't drink, so we'regoing to respect that, but Jess
and I are going to keep sipping.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
As we always do, To the rim baby.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
To the rim baby.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I can't wait to get me a shirt.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You need to trademark that.
Okay, so your water that youhad.
If you don't mind stilltoasting with us, we would love
that.
Yes, we can still do that.
So this is a red wine.
It looks like roscato, which is, I think it means, red Moscato.
Looks like it has some fizz toit, so, and it's sweet, baby
(02:02):
what would you baby get you?
Some.
What would you like to toast towhat's on your mind?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
lately toast to life and this new album man okay
cause there's always a vibe here,
Speaker 1 (02:11):
much success, good vibes.
Alright, I like that.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I know you like that, I like that you like that
normally.
Alright, let's see I like that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You like that?
No, I'm playing.
All right, let's see.
So we want to talk first aboutyour new album.
It just dropped, I think, whatabout two weeks ago?
May 9th, may 9th, all right.
So what is the vibes on theVibes 2 album like?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It's summery thing for real, it's just a little bit
of every type of vibe.
Something for the summer,something for the ladies,
something for the late night,something for the fellas.
A vibe too.
It's just a vibe.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Afro beats as well.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, a little bit of that too.
I got my homies in Ghana onthere.
I saw the videos.
I love that.
They going crazy with that one.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, international views is amazing.
Yes sir, yes sir.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Amazing.
They really rocking with it.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I appreciate it.
I'm here doing that, so how didyou get in contact with them?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Through my manager.
He out there right now.
So that's like a we actually onthe same label too.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
They just signed with us, so yeah, it's going to good
music for me.
They got a couple other songs.
That's dope.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
They got a few Real Patty and ADL.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Music is their name.
Check them out they dope, superdope.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
What was the inspiration behind this new
album?
What made you take such a turnto think your album has several
different sounds.
What made you want to do thatinstead of stick to one
particular sound?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
that's me for real, like I'm just all over the place
as a person, like in my head,like I do like 50 different
types of music.
So you know it ain't no need tohold it back.
I figure might as well justgive them everything.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So I like that pretty much.
Yeah, so super authentic to whoyou are, yeah, basically all
right, that's dope, it really is.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
so, um, I know on you visit and came as a guest for
man listen and you talked aboutum, okay, well, can I get a
hello?
Hello, all right, um, and youtalked about who your favorite
artist was, and that was KanyeWest, is that?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
still your boy.
I'm going to be real, likeright now.
I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I don't listen to him as much as I did back then, but
as an inspiration.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, he's still one of the top to me for sure, but I
listen to a lot of stuff though.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I feel that because, honestly, people probably going
to railroad me for this, don'tdrag them out.
R Kelly.
You know what I'm saying.
He did a lot.
I'm not saying what he did wasright.
However, the nigga is a musicalgenius and we cannot take that
from him.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
We can't take that from him for sure you know what
I'm saying.
That was a soundtrack to manydays when I was young.
Huh, give me that honey love.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Huh, who giving it up ?
All right, bye.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But you ain't tripping for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I think he's such a genius and I do think that he is
misunderstood.
I think he struggles withmental health.
Some I think he struggles withmental health and, um, some
people just don't have a goodway of expressing that.
Um, I still think Kanye isamazing.
I think, I think he's troubledand I I feel bad for him in a
way.
Yeah, I think there's people whothink he's so untouchable that
(05:37):
they just can't maybe have theconversation like hey, I think
you need help you know, becauseif he were to get help or some
type of therapy, maybe he wouldchannel that energy into
something healthier andsomething amazing, like he did
before, because he's definitelycapable.
So I wonder where the path isgoing to go with Kanye.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Therapy would definitely probably be a good
option for him, for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Have you been?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
in therapy before, nah, but I'm definitely going to
take therapy before I do mynext album, for sure okay yeah,
for sure.
Like I got to, it's a part ofthe.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's gonna be a part of the process, for sure, so
yeah therapy is necessary, it'slife-changing, it really is
because I noticed that you tooka break from your last release,
so how much of a length of timewas that?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Three years.
My last drop was Valentine'sDay 2022.
Okay, like last album, Idropped songs in between them,
but my last full project was2022.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And your Heartbreak Kid.
That was Heartbreak Kid rightTwo.
Yeah, Heartbreak Kid two, andthat was what you performed when
you was in South Hill, Becausethat was dope.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Some of it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
It was like a mix between the first one and the
second one.
That was dope.
That was dope.
Speaking of that performance,let me talk about an awkward
moment.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I just want to make sense of this for you right now.
Okay, it's crazy, because I wasreading those messages earlier
today.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I was gonna read, so we went to your showcase in
south hill.
I was super excited to comesupport.
I'm very socially awkward ifI'm put on the spot me too so
and plus, like I've met, youknow celebrities and you know I
do feel I don't know awkward orsomething.
So, like when Jess was like doyou want to take a picture?
I was like no.
(07:13):
I was like no, that wasn'tpersonal.
That was just like well, what doI do when I take the picture?
Well, why am I taking thepicture?
Is he supposed to?
I was just overthinking it so Iwas just like, hey, nice to
meet you.
So it wasn't personal, I'm justsocially awkward sometimes.
But yeah, the show was amazing.
It definitely put me on to yourmusic.
(07:33):
I was super impressed by yourvoice.
Sounds beautiful.
I don't know if beautiful isthe right word.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
It is.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It sounds amazing.
So I just wanted to give youyour props and also clear that
up, so you didn't think I was astuck-up bitch, nah you know
what's crazy is?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
you told me that one time before I did.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I think a lot of times we've seen each other yeah
, okay, good, I'm just makingsure you understand I ain't
taking it that way.
Okay, I'm very awkwardsometimes.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, I love the vocal ability that you have,
honestly rapping, to doing thisR&B genre like it's really dope
for real, mm-hmm, like, becauseyou in between you like that
Chris Brown in between you knowwhat I'm saying, so I, like that
, appreciate that.
How do you feel that has beenfor you, like as far as the
(08:24):
views, and are you getting moreviewers with your r&b versus
your Rapping?
But I will tell you like I justwant to get your flowers while
you hear, like either way you goyou know?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I think I think people be sleeping on me as a
rapper now too, because I'msaying so.
Look out for some rappingcoming soon, for a little bit
too, but I don't know, it'sdefinitely been a lot better
like fan wise, views wise,follower wise everything just
multiplied once I reallyswitched over and started.
I don't know, it's definitelybeen a lot better like fan-wise
views-wise, follower-wiseEverything just multiplied once
I really switched over andstarted making R&B like my
primary.
You know what I'm saying.
(08:51):
So, yeah, it's been crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I like your music because it kind of takes me back
to like 90s music.
It has a vibe for me.
That's what I grew up on.
Yeah, you can definitely hearthat influence in your music and
that that's what made megravitate towards it and love it
because, um, I mean, I was bornin 84, so 90s music is so, um,
(09:19):
you know it, just that's thesound that I grew up on, that's
the sound that influenced me andI love music so much that, um,
your just naturally, you know,worked for me.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So I love the vibes that you have I appreciate that
yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So what was your out of this album that you've been
doing?
Vibes 2?
Vibes 2.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Vibes, 2.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Huh, okay we're going to keep on doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Do you like that?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I know you like that, you like that.
Okay, but for real, which songdid you have the most fun
creating?
I?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
don't know.
That's a tough question, shit.
What do you think, mj?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Man in the fold.
What do you think, mj?
I'm with that Chosen, huh.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, chosen, chosen, chosen.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yeah, Joe texted the group chat the other day.
Nigga Joe said that's hiswake-up answer.
He told me that too, I'mtelling you that's on rock.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That's on rock for real, that's on group chat.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
He was like that's my wake-up answer.
I don't know, though, he I'mgoing to shoot the video and
everything for you.
Honestly, probably right now,though if I got to be honest, if
I really think about it, Mightbe right now.
Okay, that's probably the mostfun song on there too, for real.
Okay, the Afrobeats man yeahchosen nigga.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You ain't got no motion.
Yeah, we gonna keep on.
We gonna keep on rolling,flying, floating.
Yeah, I feel like I'm chosen ifit's not in depth, you just
(11:03):
scratching the surface.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Was there a song that you were nervous about
releasing because it wasvulnerable, or that it was
something that was differentthan what your viewers were used
to?
Nah, not for real.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I think by now people should expect me to be all over
the place.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
But as far as vulnerable, I don't think I got
there yet.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I don't really think I've done enough.
You know what I'm saying.
But as far as vulnerable, Idon't think I got there yet.
I don't really think I've doneenough.
You know what I'm saying.
As far as being vulnerable andtelling my story, or really
telling my feelings, that's whatI'm going to therapy for.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I was about to say, maybe once that therapy opened
up for you, you're going tostart, you know?
Being more vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It can definitely give you the tools in, like how
to communicate, how you feel andmake you reflect when it comes
to the certain things you'vebeen through and how it affects
you and also how you're going tobe moving forward Right.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I know writer's block is a thing, so did you
experience that in the threeyears that you was like your
downtime?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Nah, because I don't write.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
True.
I've been trying to True thatis true.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I've been trying to teach myself how to write again.
I don't write, so I never havesongs prepared to get in the
studio and record.
I just make it right on thespot.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But it was times where I couldn't make music,
though, because it would be lifegoing on.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I know people want to hear me talk about the stuff I
talk about, but I'll be feelingyou know what I'm saying,
whatever I'm feeling, and Iain't really in the mood to make
a song for women right now.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You know what I'm saying.
How many songs do you have inthe tub?
Would you say A?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
lot.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Because I was privileged enough to be able to
go to the studio and see how youcook up.
You know, what I'm saying.
So that was.
You know, I love the steps thatyou took to do that.
You know, you listening tobeats, you listening to them.
Listening to them, I don't rockwith it.
I rock with it.
Okay, I feel this beat tellingme something.
(12:58):
Then I make the song off thebeat.
So I like that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, I don't know, man, it's a lot.
We got a lot for sure.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
If I had to put a number on it probably like that
people ain't heard.
Maybe like a hundred somethingmaybe.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay.
So if you don't write the music, what is your process?
Because your music is, it seemsso authentic to who it seems
that you are.
You know you sing it as if youdid write it honestly.
So how do you get all of thatto align if you're not the one
that's writing it?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So it depends on how I'm feeling with that too.
Like some days I can, some daysI'll listen to a beat.
I might just do a melody, youknow what I'm saying Like a lot
of humming, a lot of you knowknow, just trying to find the
flow or whatever I'm gonna say.
Then I'll go back and put thewords on it and then some days
I'll just go right in, like Imight have five, six lines
before I need to, you know.
(13:53):
So we just piece it together.
You know what I'm saying okayyeah.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Are you taking a lot of your life experiences to make
these songs or are you thinkingabout in the future what you
want to do, like?
Probably a little bit of both,okay, yeah a lot of it is
probably a lot of it is lifeexperience though, yeah, a lot
of it dope, dope.
Yeah, like I said, I ain'treally got into it yet like
(14:17):
that's what the therapy gonnahelp with.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That's gonna help me really um be able to express,
you know what I'm saying, thestuff I want to say I feel like
it's about that time, you know,I feel like it's about that time
.
It's about that time for me toreally tell my story.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Can I say this on camera About that Time need to
be one of your songs.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, that's probably one of the songs on the album.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
yeah, that's the name of one of the songs.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Nah, nah, I'm saying that there might need to be one.
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So what made you?
What was the thing, thecatalyst that made you feel like
you know, I think I need to goto therapy.
And then you also.
It seems like you connected itto knowing that going to therapy
would be beneficial for yourmusic and expression.
Was there a certain thing thathappened, or did you just have
certain thoughts over time thatmade you feel like you should go
(15:05):
to therapy?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
For real people have been telling me, of course, like
over the years, you know, ofcourse females and stuff,
telling me I probably should goto therapy.
Oh, but I made a decision forreal in like 2022.
When Mr Morales and the BigStumpers came out.
It was a Kendrick album and Iwas like you know what I'm
saying?
I probably should when MrMorales and the Big.
Steppers came out.
It was a Kendrick album and Iwas like you know what I'm
(15:27):
saying.
I probably should do it, youfeel?
me he just said so much in thealbum and I'm like, damn, how do
you get to that point to beable to express that much?
You know what I'm saying To beable to tap into that, but still
make dope-ass music at the sametime?
I feel like I got the dopemusic part down back.
(15:49):
It's too easy.
I can do that.
I can make a thousand songs ifI really just sat there and did
it.
You know what I'm saying, but Ifeel like I really need to talk
about something.
So, yeah, it's, it's just timefor real.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm getting older, I got kids.
You know what I'm saying.
Uh, speaking on your kids.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Your kids are very talented, thank you, very, very
talented.
How do you feed into theirtalent at this age?
Because you know that what youfeed your kids will make will
make them grow.
So are you really?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
pushing them artistic stuff they are very talented
yeah.
I just support them, I justwhat I mean get them what they
need and just support them.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
And tell them they're doing good a lot because I feel
like that's real important tohear like that, you're doing a
good job.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You know what I'm saying.
On all levels, though, from achild, all the way through life.
You know what I'm saying Likethat's real important so, yeah,
so, so, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
so, being that you find that important, is that
your love language?
Yeah, because we talk aboutlove languages on almost every
episode and it always tells youa lot about a person words of
affirmation would that be yourprimary?
Do you think there's another?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
as far as, like, I don't know I'm real touchy too.
Like, I like, I touch a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Oh, you like physical touch?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Physical touch?
Okay For sure.
Why y'all laughing at him?
He's being vulnerable.
Leave him alone, let us cookover here.
I mean we talking about likewe're females, I mean we
listening to Vaz too.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
He talking about touching on somebody.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Leave him alone.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Leave him alone and it's crazy because I just be
catching myself doing it, thoughyou know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Like I be like damn, like I'm really sitting, you
know what I'm saying.
This nigga's stupid Nah, butyeah, that's probably one of
them for sure.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Okay.
So what have you learned fromyourself through other people
Like what have I?
I mean?
I know they told you that youneeded to possibly seek therapy.
Why are these people sayingthese?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
things probably.
What's the pattern?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
yeah, what's the pattern?
Let's talk about it I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I seem like I don't take stuff serious a lot because
I smile and laugh a lot.
I do, though, I take a lot ofshit serious.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I just joke a lot, like you know, like so if you
having a serious conversationwith your girl, you don't get
bothered like please don'tstress me out.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So she's like I really need more of your time or
I need this or that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
You laugh hell, nah, like that's an easy conversation
to have.
I'm saying it was like anawkward conversation, like if
it's something Like you don'twant to talk about At the moment
.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Like right now we're making you laugh yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I swear to.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
God, oh boy, hell, yeah, you know that's the reason
why I grew my hair bro, like totry to hide my face and shit.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You know what I saw.
I have noticed that that youcover your face a lot, and you
know what I thought I was like.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I wonder if that is a defense mechanism for him, if
you go back and look at my albumcovers up until this point,
every picture I got my head.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Why is that I?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
don't know, I just feel like a mask.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Why do you feel like you need a mask?
Oh, there it is again.
Awkward, awkward, uncomfortable, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I just feel uncomfortable, I just feel like
I'm getting looked at.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay, I don't know.
Yeah, I just be uncomfortable,like, I just feel like I'm
getting looked at, you know.
Okay, so judgment is a thingfor you, or acceptance, nah,
cause I don't really care whatpeople think like I really don't
give a damn.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I laugh at myself like.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
I can joke, it's just an internal thing.
Yeah, yeah, like it's more.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'm real self conscious, like people wouldn't
believe that, but like hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, I wouldn't believe that Not seeing you on
stage, health conscious, how?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
though, but that's like my comfort zone.
Being on stage, yeah that'swhen I get to.
You know what I mean.
But I still ain't got to thepoint where I can express openly
there yet neither do I.
I hold myself back a lotbecause of my, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So to give yourself, so you get a Grammy.
You know how is that going tolook for you it.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
You know, how is that ?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
going to look for you .
Speaker 4 (19:46):
He's going to look like this Like what's the speech
going to be like?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Are you going to feel awkward if you're put on the
spot to do that?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You said, if you mean when?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
When, when?
Definitely when, because it'scoming.
Okay, for sure, let them come.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
The speech is going to be easy, though, because it's
going to be short.
I'm a thank God, I gotta get inand get out if I say thank
everybody, I can't miss nobody.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You feel me that's true, though you know what I'm
saying so do you think, then,when it comes to the mention of
therapy, and then with yousaying that your hair is like a
mask, do you think that whatneeds to be discussed is
vulnerability?
Do you think that?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
that is what it is.
Yeah, that's one of the mainthings.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Okay, for sure, I feel like your next album should
be Vulnerability.
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I got the title for it already.
Huh, I don't know if I want tosay it Working on something.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Don't say it right now Don't say it, no, you keep
that in the tuck.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I should have kept that in the tuck.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Vulnerability could be a song, it's going to be
under a major when we drop thenext album.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Okay, well, let's talk about that.
Yeah, do you choose to be anindependent artist or are you
waiting for the right label tocome along?
Yeah, waiting for the right, Imean it depends, though.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
If we can get the independent thing really rolling
and being lucrative, becauseyou know being independent is
way more expensive than having amachine behind you and
supporting your dream.
But it depends.
If the right situation comes,then yeah, I'm going to take it.
I'm not against signing with amajor Okay, not at all.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So you have been approached previously, haven't
you?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay, Somewhat yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So what made you not go with those situations?
So what?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
made you not go with those situations the big one,
the one that I really notregretted, but the one that was
really like I was almost, youknow it was like creative
freedom, like creative control.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Okay, that was like the least thing that I was going
to get out of everything Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It was so many like perks and shit, but that was the
one thing that I really want tohave.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Because, as an artist artist you got to think about
the stuff that they want you todo, like they want you to do all
types of crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
They want you wearing dresses, all types of stuff,
like if I was a new artist youknow, I mean it would make uh,
you know I'm saying a littlemore sense to do some shit like
that just do whatever they'reabout to say.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You're gonna wear a dress, but to do some shit, Just
do whatever they ask you to do.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I was about to say you gonna wear a dress?
Yeah, but nah, hell, no, no, no, no, no I'm just making sure,
If I was a new artist, if Ihadn't put so much time into
this shit it would be easier forme to just you in your tracks
with what you're already doing.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
It's like uh-uh.
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Speaker 3 (23:36):
So how the music industry is now.
How do you feel about it?
Because so many differentthings are going on the the pd
situation.
Um, just a lot of things aregoing on and it's just like what
, how do you get there, like, doyou get to?
(23:57):
Like you get so much money, youfeel like you're untouchable,
like how do you get there when?
When do you lose empathy forother people?
Or how do you?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
remain humble.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, you're that guy in that mode like playing
basketball.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah you're that guy.
I got 39.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I think it go back to the same thing, as I said, with
the creative control, thoughI've just been doing it for so
long, I feel like I used tothink I wanted a deal so long
ago when I was younger, but Iprobably wasn't ready as a
person.
You know what I mean.
So it probably would have beenthose type of traits.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
you know what I mean would have been those type of
traits, you know I mean if Iwould have had that type of
emotion going right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So yeah, like I feel like I was just able to grow as
a person, you know, over time,even though I still I feel like
I got a long way to go, but I'vegrown to the point where you
know that that type of justdon't it don't phase you right
so what?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
what would I?
What do you think would havehappened had you had the
opportunity, at 18, 19, to signwith somebody?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I probably would have fucked it up by now.
I mean just because, like Isaid, as a person I wasn't ready
Music-wise, you know, but as aperson, hell, no, hell, no, yeah
, I would have Spend it Withthat perspective though Not even
just money-wise, like justdiscipline.
You know what I mean Deadlines.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You know Work, actually working.
Yeah, I think people think,when it comes to music, all you
got to do is go in there andhave fun and you know, do shows
and sit in the studio with yourfriends and stuff like that.
And you know, from what Iunderstand, it's a lot of work.
It's definitely a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
You got to think about, like Chris Browns and
Beyonce's, like I know, theyputting more than it's 24 hours
in a day.
It seems like they put morethan 24 hours in in a day to
make sure that their craft ishow they want it to be.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Plus their team too Right.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
That's what separates them from other people, though.
Yeah, but that perspective thatyou have on knowing that you
may have fucked it up and youneeded to grow as a person,
that's what's going to help youa lot when it comes to you going
to therapy.
That means that you alreadyknow how to reflect back, and
your perspective is everythingwhen it comes to therapy.
It was definitely life-changingfor me.
I'm thankful for it, because Iwouldn't I wouldn't be myself
(26:28):
now mentally if I didn't do that.
I would have been a bitter,hateful, you know, sad person
probably, but luckily I saw itas taking control of the rest of
my life.
To have, you know, to have gonethrough therapy.
I know it was a catalyst to mebeing more peaceful and living a
happier life mentally.
(26:49):
So kudos to you for just beingopen to doing that and knowing
that it's time.
I'm excited about it for real.
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
That's really awesome , yeah we love that Because the
thing is, most people try totell you when you should go to
therapy, but it's all for you.
So when you're ready, that'swhen you're going to get the
most benefit out of it.
When you sit right there andyou try to do it because
somebody's telling you to, it'slike I don't really want to do
it, I'm just doing it to pleaseyou, to appease you, but when
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you're doing it for yourself,that's when it means so much
more.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I had zero interest at first.
I was like therapy?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
hell, no, yeah, I look like now.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's like I can't wait to do it because I can
imagine I can just see me, youknow what I mean on the other
side, like coming out of it,Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
How crazy it would be .
It's a I don't know.
I'm going to send you a message.
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, I don't know I'm trying to figure it out.
I definitely don't want to doit like locally or nothing, I
want to go somewhere wheresomebody that doesn't know me
and just somewhere I don't live,and just you know.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It's really good to do it in person too.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, energy is very telling, Igot a lot to yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I want to get back on this album really quick, though
.
What are you well who, whenyou're getting the reviews on
your album?
What are they saying?
More Like?
What songs are they saying Ilike this so much more.
I like this, I like this.
What you getting feedback?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
on.
Right now the favorites arelike All Right, with Me Chosen
Grinding.
Right Now it's a lot Like.
If you look on the Apple Music,it's like six or seven stars
beside.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Let me tell you something.
I'm one of the people.
I'm one of the people.
When I like something, I'mgoing to listen to it ten times
a day.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, same.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I'm telling you so you're going to get 10 views out
of me every day.
I know On at least four, five,six of your songs.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
The other day was my first time listening to
something else besides it.
I've been playing that shitevery day since it dropped.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I know I just listened to something new the
other day and I was like, hey,that one dope too.
I'm like dang.
I can't even tell them what Ithink is dope, because all of it
is dope, the album period isdope.
The album is overall dope forreal, and I like the comic theme
of it.
What made you go that route?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
That shit was.
How did that happen, amj?
You remember how?
The comic, how did I come upwith the comic book Thing for
the album?
It was something that sparkedthe idea.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Sparked literally.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, it was definitely smoking too, but it
was something that was like Ibelieve it was the intro.
I made the intro and then I waslike, damn, it would be dope if
I just themed this whole shitLike a superhero movie, comic
book type shit it was a dopeconcept.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Because you did it.
I would love to have that on myshirt.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
So yeah, we need some merch.
You feel what I'm saying, mj,get us in there, get us coming
soon.
You know I'm saying coming soon.
Definitely we're gonna makethat happen.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So we're gonna move this conversation a little bit
um more and we're gonna talkabout uh, what should we talk
about?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
first, red flags yeah , so we have um.
Well, first I wanted to bringup something that I heard you
mention on the last podcast, umwith the fellas.
You said something aboutpolygamy, and that is a hot
topic.
People have very strongopinions about that.
I have have one too, I'm sureJess does, but I want to know
(30:28):
specifically, because you didn'treally get into it.
So the whole purpose of youbeing here with the ladies is to
get into it.
So I want to know what is yourstance on polygamy?
Is this something you ventureto do, something you're
currently doing?
You know something you've donebefore?
Tell us all about it.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It's definitely something I've tried.
Okay yeah, wasn't successful.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Attitudes.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Okay, you can't deal with too many women at one time.
Nah, it was like them together.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
It was the women.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, like them clashing, them clashing rather
than you, because you happy inthis.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, I'm usually pretty chill for real, like
because you happy in this.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah, I'm sure I'm usually pretty chill for real,
like it take a lot to really getme, you know, to that next
element.
Yeah, it take a lot.
So yeah, I mean, yeah, I'minterested in polygamy.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, so there's polygamy, which means you have
multiple wives, but then there's, like throuples you know,
that's what they call them threepeople, two women and a man, or
whatever the situation is.
So why do you lean towardswanting to do that and not being
monogamous?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I'm, you want to know something, and I'm not judging.
I like them both, though, okayI'm not against being monogamous
at all.
Neither like it's not a.
It's not a.
Uh, I don't have to I don'thave to have it one way or the
other okay, I'm cool.
Either way, I can settle forone woman like I ain't that
crazy settle not.
(31:54):
I can settle for one woman.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I'm allowed to he said I'm allowed to use that
word right?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You got to watch your words right now.
Am I allowed to use that word?
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Settle.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
for me, settle means that so what's a better word for
that?
Or?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
it depends on what your intention of the word is.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
If settle is what you mean, that's what you mean.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I can choose to be with one woman if I want to yeah
, mind your business, ralph.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You back to come on down.
You over there with theheadphones.
Sir, drink your wine.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I could be happy with one woman.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Still drink it Still.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Now I could be happy with one woman if I chose to,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
So in that situation, was it that you were not happy
with one woman, or that was justa time in your life where you
wanted to try more than onewoman?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
That situation was kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
It kind of just came together for real, like so you
was with one of them, and thenanother one came in can you talk
about this?
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I was yeah, so I had one and I was cool with the
other one and she brought theother one.
She brought the one up one dayand I'm like, hmm, she told me
how it was kind of cool, coolhow like they were getting cool,
like they was about to startgetting real cool.
You feel me?
(33:11):
Oh yeah, so I'm like shit.
Y'all might as well you knowwhat I'm saying we all might as
well be cool.
You know what I'm, you knowwhat I'm saying?
We all might as well be coolyou know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
You know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying.
It's a three-way.
Yeah, like so okay.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
It was easy.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So was it just about sex and intimacy, or was it
about relationship with threepeople?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm going to be real with you.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
It was just about sex .
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I would never make either one of them my girlfriend
.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
All right, Y'all heard that right.
Don't try to double back now.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, I'm being real with you.
That was strictly what it wasfor.
You're cracking up over there.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I'm coming back to the camera, because I had to
turn.
I did too.
I would never.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
And it's just because you know what I mean.
I seen stuff, know stuff likehell no.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
So basically it was Because wouldn't that make you
not want to trust a person,though?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, and I got away with certain stuff.
Like, believe me, it would makeyou not want to trust a person?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I would think so.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I got certain stuff off in those situations, so it's
like you feel me Hell.
No, never.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So is that the only situation you've had?
That is, I mean, we can't evencall that polygamy, we need to
just call that a long threesome.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, that was more than just a threesome.
Yeah, okay, I've had more thanone threesome.
That's what you're asking.
No, I'm not asking that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I'm just asking if I won't get too deep in your
business.
I'm more so asking like thatparticular situation that didn't
work out To me it sounds likeit was more so around the sexual
part of it, as opposed to threepeople coming together and
trying to be in a relationshipthat works.
(34:51):
Most definitely Okay, I agree,okay.
So do you feel like an actualpolygamist situation can work,
where there's two people who areagreeable and it's not so much?
What I've seen is it's not somuch about sex, it's more about
partnership and like the threepeople working together For sure
.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
At that point in my life, though, I wasn't really,
you know, looking for arelationship in general.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
OK, yeah, for sure oh yeah, that would be dope.
I can see how it work.
I mean it's not for me, butlike sometimes, I wish I had
another person in my house doingstuff.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Okay, can I get a maid?
We talked about this on anotherepisode.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, like you can definitely clean and fold
laundry Like damn.
I got other shit to do thelaundry.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Huh, do something.
I guess that's a Show ass.
Up and do something.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, that's what I would have been telling the
third person Get your ass up,See you don't need to be in a
polygons Because you think youher boss.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Get your ass up and do something you think she.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Get your ass and do something that could be a good
situation if everybody is on thesame page if everybody got the
same goal.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, I see how it can work for people.
I don't feel that I could dothat because I don't personally
want to share my partner ormyself for that matter with
another person, but I'm prettyopen-minded.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I feel like it could work for people yeah, that's not
something that I'll be honestwith you, though that's not
something that I could seemyself doing like, so it's not
ideal for you, but you're notagainst it either right like I'm
not, uh, I ain't chasing it orthat's not something that I
really, because I'm gonna behonest with you, sometimes one
woman emotionally is enough.
You feel me so once it.
(36:39):
You got that coming at you fromboth ways, and I mean me right
now as a person.
It's pre-therapy me, maybepost-therapy me.
You know what I mean.
I might handle four.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
But right now, no, Mentally I can't even do it.
You feel me?
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Like mentally, I can't even do it.
You feel me Like mentally, Ican't even do it.
It's a lot Like especially ifyou are truly a good partner who
is in tune with the personyou're with.
I can't imagine being able tohave the capacity emotionally to
truly be who you need to be foranother person.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
That's a lot.
My emotional capacity is verylimited already anyway.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Well that's good that you know that yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I hate that, though I mean well you have.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Your emotional capacity is limited for other
people.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Why?
I mean when you grow up like Igrew up, you kind of be numb
after a while.
You know what I mean.
So I've been around a lot, Igrew up around a lot.
I've seen a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Well, sometimes, when you put out so much and you
haven't had the opportunity towork through all of that and
make sense of it and see howit's affected you and made you
how you are, you oftentimesdon't have the capacity to pour
into another person.
It's like I'm just givingmyself drops you know I'm barely
surviving.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
I'll be trying after the fact I'd be like damn, you
know.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I mean, I could have handled it better, I should have
did more.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
But I think it's really healthy to be honest with
yourself, like sometimes youknow as much as people want to
be in a relationship.
You know, I think it'simportant to be the best version
of yourself, or at least try toattempt to get there.
That's when the bestrelationships happen, is when
you're the best version ofyourself, because, man, you can
really damage people along theway and then that affects you.
(38:22):
You know that affects you lateron, like dang, you know I did
this person so bad or I wasn'tgood to this person.
You know, yeah, I agree.
Yeah, there's guilt that comeswith that.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
So I want to go into red flags.
Oh boy, I want you to tell mewhat's one of your red flags
that you see in females and ared flag that a female might
have addressed for you.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
You made your bed so late in it.
No need to pretend with it.
You know just what you want, sogo on and have your fun, not
going to entertain with it.
You know just what you want, sogone and have your fun, not
gonna entertain with it.
I know it's a shame, ain't it?
You want your cake and eat ittoo.
The best thing I did was leaveyou, I don't know, um, maybe off
(39:13):
the top like just sneakiness,like I'm real, I know this.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Everything, unfortunately like, but that's
(39:48):
just like I said.
That's a part.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I had a guy like that right so okay, don't piss me
off I don't question everything.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
you feel me I can notice something and shut the
hell up about it, but if it'ssomething that needs to be
spoken on, but I'm not the typethat's going to stress myself
either, if I feel like.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
I can't trust somebody.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I'm not going to rock with them like that.
So just like sneakiness isprobably one.
For sure, like I noticepatterns, I notice when stuff
changes.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
You have that gift of discernment.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
But you know that's good though, because patterns do
tell you the truth for real.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Don't get rid of that , honestly.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
No, no, keep that, that's a good thing, even in
therapy, when they're talking toyou about certain stuff.
Some of that stuff.
You need to keep that.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Don't lose yourself because you're trying to you
know, yeah, you can only adjustto people so much before you're
not yourself anymore.
You know, and discernment, andnoticing everything, you said it
like it was a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Sometimes it is, though.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
It is because sometimes you are it was for me
and mine You're functioning outof trauma.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Stop bringing up shit that don't matter.
Get your ass on.
You look at the person likewhat?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Exactly like.
Did you really dig that up Like?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
please, yeah, or how did you twist that into that
Younger?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
me, I would speak on everything I noticed.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
Now I just like but that affect me too.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, but that'll have me sitting there like I
don't even want to talk to yourass.
That's also not good.
Yeah, exactly Because you pushit down and in the back of your
head you're like, mm.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
yeah, I don't fucking treat you like that, but I'm
like that with everything,though, like you know, that's
what I'm going to therapy for.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
That's good it's going to help.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I love it.
I love to hear it.
What's the red flag that?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
other females Nonchalant.
Yeah, like I don't care.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Nigga don't be nonchalant.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
You don't even care you don't give a damn.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I be laughing.
If there's a nigga in heretrying to fight, type shit, I be
laughing, before I fuck him upBe honest.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Okay, so vulnerability is definitely the
what's the word, the theme here.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, that's going to be my cheat code.
That's what's gonna take me tolike the next level in life in
general yeah I promise youthat's gonna change your pace.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
It's hard though everything it's hard, though,
because when you've seen a lotand witnessed other people or
even yourself, you know, when itcomes to um, negative
experiences, vulnerability is sohard because it's like you, you
know all of these things arepossible, or people are capable
of all these things, andvulnerability is like you have
(42:25):
to set that to the side andtrust that they're not going to
be that thing, that you knowthat they can be Right, and I
think that that's for me, that'swhat's so hard about.
Vulnerability is like I'vealready learned all of these
things, like I'm, I'm, I'm twosteps ahead of you, right, it's
just about to point out a flawin your ass.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
DMX is like trust people for who they are.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
It's like if you know a person is a thief.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Trust them to be a thief.
If you know they're a liar, youtrust them to be a liar.
His documentary was reallypowerful.
I'm not even going to lie Whosedocumentary DMX.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Oh yeah, his videos and all the stuff that he went
through and who he became andhow he was like prolific with,
how he spoke to people, like itwas, it was very passionate.
I love that about him.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
I'm not even gonna lie, but vulnerability can be a
gift and a curse.
It's so hard to be vulnerableonce you're especially if you're
a person with discernment andempathetic because you do seem
that way, you know like youreally take things in Um, it can
be so hard to be.
I'm being serious, guys, I'mtrying my best, but you did not
see what's happening.
(43:28):
Thank you, just look at it.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Just look at Okay, forget the point I was making
y'all, because no, look at thesun.
It can be hard to be vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
for sure, it's hard to be vulnerable.
Look at the sun.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
That's hilarious, he's funny.
That is stressing me the fuckout.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
All right, that's funny.
Well, fuck what I was trying tosay.
So, lastly, we would like toplay a game.
Yes, I got two questions foryou.
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
You go first.
So with this game, we're goingto throw out a word and we want
you to think of a song that youthink of when you hit a word.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
My song or just a song?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Any song the first thing that pops in your mind,
but you have to sing it or rapit.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
See you doing it again.
The first word is love love yougotta put your hair in front of
you.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
You can damn love is a hard one.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Cause that oh, he doing it too um me too.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
I don't know.
Love supposed to be quickalright, uh, me too.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I don't know, love Supposed to be quick.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
All right Love.
I think the Kendrick Lamar song.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I can't hear you singing it.
I ain't want to be with you.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
All right, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Yeah, all right.
Next word is soul.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Soul Soul, first song that pops in your head.
Alright, next word is soul,soul Soul.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
First song that pops in your head.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
You ain't got nothing new you snatching nobody's soul
on vibes too.
Huh, you ain't snatching nosouls on vibes too.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
That ain't really my terminology.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Soul.
I mean that can be In a lot ofthings though.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Oh nah, you know what I got it.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
What you got.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Break my soul, beyonce, you gotta sing it.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Okay, sing it, you won't break my soul.
You won't break my soul.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Shout out to my sister Casualty man Shout out,
she got a Grammy for that.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Right there, man period alright, and we got vibes
.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
I would love for you to you know alright, vibes, I
think in the morning, but Iwon't be here when you wake up
in the morning in the morning.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
I know it hey fuck it with it.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
It's that wine, it's the wine, baby, that red wine.
Turn around baby.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
That red wine, do it all the time.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
And one more word, friend.
Okay, what it is?
You got it, cheat.
No, it's two more words.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Cheat Damn, that's a tough one.
Nah, she said cheat.
That don't really make me thinkabout cheat.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
It wasn't me.
There we go me think aboutcheating.
It wasn't me.
There we go.
It wasn't me, it wasn't me.
Yeah, that's it.
It wasn't me, it wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It was not me.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
So I want you cheating.
So we know that it wasn't youcheating.
It wasn't me All right, that'sone more word Um.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
All right, alright, so the last word was freak.
That's a tough one too she hasa very premature bladder freak
damn freak.
I'm the worst person on top ofmy head you're really not,
because I listened to your albumand there's plenty of that, so
I feel like you could sing that.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Don't be shy now uh, oh yeah, all right, I won't lie
the way you do it.
You're gonna start a fight onme.
There we go, I love it.
I love it featuring uh barrylavelle yeahVelle.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Alright, so the last two things I want to ask you.
I wish Jess was here.
She had to dip out real quick.
Alright, so the last two thingsI want to ask you.
This is kind of a sillyquestion, but it'll probably
stump you, so you have to pickone.
If you could add two inches toyour height but it would take
two inches from down below, oryou add two inches down below
(48:05):
and take two inches off yourheight, which one would you pick
If?
Speaker 2 (48:09):
I had to pick one.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
You have to pick one, two inches.
Yeah, you got it right.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I mean I could take two inches off down below and
still be good.
So be a little taller.
I guess I could take two inchesoff down below and still be
good.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
So be a little taller , I guess, I guess All right.
Speaking of, you mentionedearlier off camera something
about OnlyFans.
Why don't you talk to us aboutthat?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
No, I tried it.
It didn't really work.
Too much work.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
What do you mean?
Too much work it wasn't toomuch.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Too much work, what?
Speaker 1 (48:39):
do you mean too much work?
Speaker 2 (48:40):
It wasn't too much, too much, what?
Like, like, um, like I made myaccount and everything but like
if you wanted to do videos withsomebody else, they had to do,
they had to have an account andeverything too.
So like I already had thevideos ready, okay.
But you know, I I ain't hadanother person with an account
and everything.
It was too much work.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Okay, you plan on revisiting that.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Nah, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Okay, the last question I have for you respect.
And I got this again.
I got this from the DrinksChamps.
I listen to them religiously,so I want to know if you could
pick one respect or loyalty, andwhy.
It's a pretty debated topic.
It could go either way.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I'll take loyalty though, because you could not
respect me, but out of yourloyalty for me you might keep it
real you know, what I'm saying.
But if you respect me butyou're not loyal to me, you
might be like you know that's mydog, but I got to get him.
You know what I'm saying.
So, yeah, give me loyalty, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
So can you tell us we're going to wrap it up and we
really, really appreciate youcoming.
We are rooting for you.
We are 10 toes behind you.
Please keep us posted about anyshows.
We have something cooking aswell that we would like to talk
to you about off camera, but ifyou can tell us where to find
you, tell our viewers where theycan find you find your music or
(50:05):
any other content that you'dhave you'd like to talk about.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
You can find me everywhere at Firecash.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Look at the camera.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Middle camera.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
There you go.
That's you, that's you, that'sme.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
You can find me everywhere.
Firecash, f-i-y-a-c-a-s-h Onall the streaming platforms.
F-i-y-a-c-a.
Dollar sign H Don't forget thedollar sign, because if you type
in an S, they might not bringit up.
Everywhere though and more tocome soon we're going to be
airwaves too.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Don't forget the dollar sign.
Okay, that's my camera.
Don't forget the dollar sign.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
Thank you for your time it was a vibe.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Vibes 2 is out.
Vibes 2, stop playing with themthe jump is definitely a vibe
and I fucks with it.
She fucks with it.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yes, front to back, he fucks with it.
Make sure y'all don't get thatshit.
Everybody fucking with it.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
So let's go.
We gonna toast and clear thisup.
I know you got a water bottle.
We'll put it up, all right.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
It's Joe Frost.
Welcome to Girl Please, where we dive into real
conversations, real laughs andreal life.
Just a quick note the views andopinions expressed on this show
are our own and don't representanyone else's.
We keep it fun, open and honest, so let's get into it.
This is Girl Please.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
This is another episode.
I am your host Jessica, and I'myour host Carmen, and this is
Girl.
Please, the podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I swear I'm breaking bad.
Oh yeah, best believe you gon'come for red.
Oh yeah, yeah, just to let youknow you can't take my soul, but
you did it to me.
I swear I'm breaking bad.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
All right, y'all, we're going to get right into
the wind down, but first let usintroduce our guest.
This is Mr Fire Cash.
Would you like to introduceyourself With the goals?
Okay, thank you so much forcoming and spending time with us
.
We're going to kind of get intoit Some personal things, along
with your music, of course,because you just dropped an
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album That'll be Vibes 2.
Vibes 2, which is super dope.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
How do you say that Vibes?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
2.
Vibes 2.
All right, let's start with thewine down Today we have a
roscato.
He doesn't drink, so we'regoing to respect that, but Jess
and I are going to keep sipping.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
As we always do, To the rim baby.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
To the rim baby.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I can't wait to get me a shirt.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You need to trademark that.
Okay, so your water that youhad.
If you don't mind stilltoasting with us, we would love
that.
Yes, we can still do that.
So this is a red wine.
It looks like roscato, which is, I think it means, red Moscato.
Looks like it has some fizz toit, so, and it's sweet, baby
(02:02):
what would you baby get you?
Some.
What would you like to toast towhat's on your mind?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
lately toast to life and this new album man okay
cause there's always a vibe here,
Speaker 1 (02:11):
much success, good vibes.
Alright, I like that.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I know you like that, I like that you like that
normally.
Alright, let's see I like that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You like that?
No, I'm playing.
All right, let's see.
So we want to talk first aboutyour new album.
It just dropped, I think, whatabout two weeks ago?
May 9th, may 9th, all right.
So what is the vibes on theVibes 2 album like?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It's summery thing for real, it's just a little bit
of every type of vibe.
Something for the summer,something for the ladies,
something for the late night,something for the fellas.
A vibe too.
It's just a vibe.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Afro beats as well.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, a little bit of that too.
I got my homies in Ghana onthere.
I saw the videos.
I love that.
They going crazy with that one.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, international views is amazing.
Yes sir, yes sir.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Amazing.
They really rocking with it.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I appreciate it.
I'm here doing that, so how didyou get in contact with them?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Through my manager.
He out there right now.
So that's like a we actually onthe same label too.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
They just signed with us, so yeah, it's going to good
music for me.
They got a couple other songs.
That's dope.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
They got a few Real Patty and ADL.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Music is their name.
Check them out they dope, superdope.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
What was the inspiration behind this new
album?
What made you take such a turnto think your album has several
different sounds.
What made you want to do thatinstead of stick to one
particular sound?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
that's me for real, like I'm just all over the place
as a person, like in my head,like I do like 50 different
types of music.
So you know it ain't no need tohold it back.
I figure might as well justgive them everything.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So I like that pretty much.
Yeah, so super authentic to whoyou are, yeah, basically all
right, that's dope, it really is.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
so, um, I know on you visit and came as a guest for
man listen and you talked aboutum, okay, well, can I get a
hello?
Hello, all right, um, and youtalked about who your favorite
artist was, and that was KanyeWest, is that?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
still your boy.
I'm going to be real, likeright now.
I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I don't listen to him as much as I did back then, but
as an inspiration.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, he's still one of the top to me for sure, but I
listen to a lot of stuff though.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I feel that because, honestly, people probably going
to railroad me for this, don'tdrag them out.
R Kelly.
You know what I'm saying.
He did a lot.
I'm not saying what he did wasright.
However, the nigga is a musicalgenius and we cannot take that
from him.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
We can't take that from him for sure you know what
I'm saying.
That was a soundtrack to manydays when I was young.
Huh, give me that honey love.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Huh, who giving it up ?
All right, bye.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But you ain't tripping for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I think he's such a genius and I do think that he is
misunderstood.
I think he struggles withmental health.
Some I think he struggles withmental health and, um, some
people just don't have a goodway of expressing that.
Um, I still think Kanye isamazing.
I think, I think he's troubledand I I feel bad for him in a
way.
Yeah, I think there's people whothink he's so untouchable that
(05:37):
they just can't maybe have theconversation like hey, I think
you need help you know, becauseif he were to get help or some
type of therapy, maybe he wouldchannel that energy into
something healthier andsomething amazing, like he did
before, because he's definitelycapable.
So I wonder where the path isgoing to go with Kanye.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Therapy would definitely probably be a good
option for him, for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Have you been?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
in therapy before, nah, but I'm definitely going to
take therapy before I do mynext album, for sure okay yeah,
for sure.
Like I got to, it's a part ofthe.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's gonna be a part of the process, for sure, so
yeah therapy is necessary, it'slife-changing, it really is
because I noticed that you tooka break from your last release,
so how much of a length of timewas that?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Three years.
My last drop was Valentine'sDay 2022.
Okay, like last album, Idropped songs in between them,
but my last full project was2022.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And your Heartbreak Kid.
That was Heartbreak Kid rightTwo.
Yeah, Heartbreak Kid two, andthat was what you performed when
you was in South Hill, Becausethat was dope.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Some of it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
It was like a mix between the first one and the
second one.
That was dope.
That was dope.
Speaking of that performance,let me talk about an awkward
moment.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I just want to make sense of this for you right now.
Okay, it's crazy, because I wasreading those messages earlier
today.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I was gonna read, so we went to your showcase in
south hill.
I was super excited to comesupport.
I'm very socially awkward ifI'm put on the spot me too so
and plus, like I've met, youknow celebrities and you know I
do feel I don't know awkward orsomething.
So, like when Jess was like doyou want to take a picture?
I was like no.
(07:13):
I was like no, that wasn'tpersonal.
That was just like well, what doI do when I take the picture?
Well, why am I taking thepicture?
Is he supposed to?
I was just overthinking it so Iwas just like, hey, nice to
meet you.
So it wasn't personal, I'm justsocially awkward sometimes.
But yeah, the show was amazing.
It definitely put me on to yourmusic.
(07:33):
I was super impressed by yourvoice.
Sounds beautiful.
I don't know if beautiful isthe right word.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
It is.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It sounds amazing.
So I just wanted to give youyour props and also clear that
up, so you didn't think I was astuck-up bitch, nah you know
what's crazy is?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
you told me that one time before I did.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I think a lot of times we've seen each other yeah
, okay, good, I'm just makingsure you understand I ain't
taking it that way.
Okay, I'm very awkwardsometimes.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, I love the vocal ability that you have,
honestly rapping, to doing thisR&B genre like it's really dope
for real, mm-hmm, like, becauseyou in between you like that
Chris Brown in between you knowwhat I'm saying, so I, like that
, appreciate that.
How do you feel that has beenfor you, like as far as the
(08:24):
views, and are you getting moreviewers with your r&b versus
your Rapping?
But I will tell you like I justwant to get your flowers while
you hear, like either way you goyou know?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I think I think people be sleeping on me as a
rapper now too, because I'msaying so.
Look out for some rappingcoming soon, for a little bit
too, but I don't know, it'sdefinitely been a lot better
like fan wise, views wise,follower wise everything just
multiplied once I reallyswitched over and started.
I don't know, it's definitelybeen a lot better like fan-wise
views-wise, follower-wiseEverything just multiplied once
I really switched over andstarted making R&B like my
primary.
You know what I'm saying.
(08:51):
So, yeah, it's been crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I like your music because it kind of takes me back
to like 90s music.
It has a vibe for me.
That's what I grew up on.
Yeah, you can definitely hearthat influence in your music and
that that's what made megravitate towards it and love it
because, um, I mean, I was bornin 84, so 90s music is so, um,
(09:19):
you know it, just that's thesound that I grew up on, that's
the sound that influenced me andI love music so much that, um,
your just naturally, you know,worked for me.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So I love the vibes that you have I appreciate that
yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So what was your out of this album that you've been
doing?
Vibes 2?
Vibes 2.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Vibes, 2.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Huh, okay we're going to keep on doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Do you like that?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I know you like that, you like that.
Okay, but for real, which songdid you have the most fun
creating?
I?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
don't know.
That's a tough question, shit.
What do you think, mj?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Man in the fold.
What do you think, mj?
I'm with that Chosen, huh.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, chosen, chosen, chosen.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yeah, Joe texted the group chat the other day.
Nigga Joe said that's hiswake-up answer.
He told me that too, I'mtelling you that's on rock.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That's on rock for real, that's on group chat.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
He was like that's my wake-up answer.
I don't know, though, he I'mgoing to shoot the video and
everything for you.
Honestly, probably right now,though if I got to be honest, if
I really think about it, Mightbe right now.
Okay, that's probably the mostfun song on there too, for real.
Okay, the Afrobeats man yeahchosen nigga.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You ain't got no motion.
Yeah, we gonna keep on.
We gonna keep on rolling,flying, floating.
Yeah, I feel like I'm chosen ifit's not in depth, you just
(11:03):
scratching the surface.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Was there a song that you were nervous about
releasing because it wasvulnerable, or that it was
something that was differentthan what your viewers were used
to?
Nah, not for real.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I think by now people should expect me to be all over
the place.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
But as far as vulnerable, I don't think I got
there yet.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I don't really think I've done enough.
You know what I'm saying.
But as far as vulnerable, Idon't think I got there yet.
I don't really think I've doneenough.
You know what I'm saying.
As far as being vulnerable andtelling my story, or really
telling my feelings, that's whatI'm going to therapy for.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I was about to say, maybe once that therapy opened
up for you, you're going tostart, you know?
Being more vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It can definitely give you the tools in, like how
to communicate, how you feel andmake you reflect when it comes
to the certain things you'vebeen through and how it affects
you and also how you're going tobe moving forward Right.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I know writer's block is a thing, so did you
experience that in the threeyears that you was like your
downtime?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Nah, because I don't write.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
True.
I've been trying to True thatis true.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I've been trying to teach myself how to write again.
I don't write, so I never havesongs prepared to get in the
studio and record.
I just make it right on thespot.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But it was times where I couldn't make music,
though, because it would be lifegoing on.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I know people want to hear me talk about the stuff I
talk about, but I'll be feelingyou know what I'm saying,
whatever I'm feeling, and Iain't really in the mood to make
a song for women right now.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You know what I'm saying.
How many songs do you have inthe tub?
Would you say A?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
lot.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Because I was privileged enough to be able to
go to the studio and see how youcook up.
You know, what I'm saying.
So that was.
You know, I love the steps thatyou took to do that.
You know, you listening tobeats, you listening to them.
Listening to them, I don't rockwith it.
I rock with it.
Okay, I feel this beat tellingme something.
(12:58):
Then I make the song off thebeat.
So I like that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, I don't know, man, it's a lot.
We got a lot for sure.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
If I had to put a number on it probably like that
people ain't heard.
Maybe like a hundred somethingmaybe.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay.
So if you don't write the music, what is your process?
Because your music is, it seemsso authentic to who it seems
that you are.
You know you sing it as if youdid write it honestly.
So how do you get all of thatto align if you're not the one
that's writing it?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So it depends on how I'm feeling with that too.
Like some days I can, some daysI'll listen to a beat.
I might just do a melody, youknow what I'm saying Like a lot
of humming, a lot of you knowknow, just trying to find the
flow or whatever I'm gonna say.
Then I'll go back and put thewords on it and then some days
I'll just go right in, like Imight have five, six lines
before I need to, you know.
(13:53):
So we just piece it together.
You know what I'm saying okayyeah.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Are you taking a lot of your life experiences to make
these songs or are you thinkingabout in the future what you
want to do, like?
Probably a little bit of both,okay, yeah a lot of it is
probably a lot of it is lifeexperience though, yeah, a lot
of it dope, dope.
Yeah, like I said, I ain'treally got into it yet like
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that's what the therapy gonnahelp with.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That's gonna help me really um be able to express,
you know what I'm saying, thestuff I want to say I feel like
it's about that time, you know,I feel like it's about that time
.
It's about that time for me toreally tell my story.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Can I say this on camera About that Time need to
be one of your songs.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, that's probably one of the songs on the album.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
yeah, that's the name of one of the songs.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Nah, nah, I'm saying that there might need to be one.
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So what made you?
What was the thing, thecatalyst that made you feel like
you know, I think I need to goto therapy.
And then you also.
It seems like you connected itto knowing that going to therapy
would be beneficial for yourmusic and expression.
Was there a certain thing thathappened, or did you just have
certain thoughts over time thatmade you feel like you should go
(15:05):
to therapy?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
For real people have been telling me, of course, like
over the years, you know, ofcourse females and stuff,
telling me I probably should goto therapy.
Oh, but I made a decision forreal in like 2022.
When Mr Morales and the BigStumpers came out.
It was a Kendrick album and Iwas like you know what I'm
saying?
I probably should when MrMorales and the Big.
Steppers came out.
It was a Kendrick album and Iwas like you know what I'm
(15:27):
saying.
I probably should do it, youfeel?
me he just said so much in thealbum and I'm like, damn, how do
you get to that point to beable to express that much?
You know what I'm saying To beable to tap into that, but still
make dope-ass music at the sametime?
I feel like I got the dopemusic part down back.
(15:49):
It's too easy.
I can do that.
I can make a thousand songs ifI really just sat there and did
it.
You know what I'm saying, but Ifeel like I really need to talk
about something.
So, yeah, it's, it's just timefor real.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm getting older, I got kids.
You know what I'm saying.
Uh, speaking on your kids.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Your kids are very talented, thank you, very, very
talented.
How do you feed into theirtalent at this age?
Because you know that what youfeed your kids will make will
make them grow.
So are you really?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
pushing them artistic stuff they are very talented
yeah.
I just support them, I justwhat I mean get them what they
need and just support them.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
And tell them they're doing good a lot because I feel
like that's real important tohear like that, you're doing a
good job.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You know what I'm saying.
On all levels, though, from achild, all the way through life.
You know what I'm saying Likethat's real important so, yeah,
so, so, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
so, being that you find that important, is that
your love language?
Yeah, because we talk aboutlove languages on almost every
episode and it always tells youa lot about a person words of
affirmation would that be yourprimary?
Do you think there's another?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
as far as, like, I don't know I'm real touchy too.
Like, I like, I touch a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Oh, you like physical touch?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Physical touch?
Okay For sure.
Why y'all laughing at him?
He's being vulnerable.
Leave him alone, let us cookover here.
I mean we talking about likewe're females, I mean we
listening to Vaz too.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
He talking about touching on somebody.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Leave him alone.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Leave him alone and it's crazy because I just be
catching myself doing it, thoughyou know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Like I be like damn, like I'm really sitting, you
know what I'm saying.
This nigga's stupid Nah, butyeah, that's probably one of
them for sure.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Okay.
So what have you learned fromyourself through other people
Like what have I?
I mean?
I know they told you that youneeded to possibly seek therapy.
Why are these people sayingthese?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
things probably.
What's the pattern?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
yeah, what's the pattern?
Let's talk about it I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I seem like I don't take stuff serious a lot because
I smile and laugh a lot.
I do, though, I take a lot ofshit serious.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I just joke a lot, like you know, like so if you
having a serious conversationwith your girl, you don't get
bothered like please don'tstress me out.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So she's like I really need more of your time or
I need this or that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
You laugh hell, nah, like that's an easy conversation
to have.
I'm saying it was like anawkward conversation, like if
it's something Like you don'twant to talk about At the moment
.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Like right now we're making you laugh yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I swear to.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
God, oh boy, hell, yeah, you know that's the reason
why I grew my hair bro, like totry to hide my face and shit.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You know what I saw.
I have noticed that that youcover your face a lot, and you
know what I thought I was like.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I wonder if that is a defense mechanism for him, if
you go back and look at my albumcovers up until this point,
every picture I got my head.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Why is that I?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
don't know, I just feel like a mask.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Why do you feel like you need a mask?
Oh, there it is again.
Awkward, awkward, uncomfortable, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I just feel uncomfortable, I just feel like
I'm getting looked at.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay, I don't know.
Yeah, I just be uncomfortable,like, I just feel like I'm
getting looked at, you know.
Okay, so judgment is a thingfor you, or acceptance, nah,
cause I don't really care whatpeople think like I really don't
give a damn.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I laugh at myself like.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
I can joke, it's just an internal thing.
Yeah, yeah, like it's more.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'm real self conscious, like people wouldn't
believe that, but like hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, I wouldn't believe that Not seeing you on
stage, health conscious, how?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
though, but that's like my comfort zone.
Being on stage, yeah that'swhen I get to.
You know what I mean.
But I still ain't got to thepoint where I can express openly
there yet neither do I.
I hold myself back a lotbecause of my, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So to give yourself, so you get a Grammy.
You know how is that going tolook for you it.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
You know, how is that ?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
going to look for you .
Speaker 4 (19:46):
He's going to look like this Like what's the speech
going to be like?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Are you going to feel awkward if you're put on the
spot to do that?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You said, if you mean when?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
When, when?
Definitely when, because it'scoming.
Okay, for sure, let them come.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
The speech is going to be easy, though, because it's
going to be short.
I'm a thank God, I gotta get inand get out if I say thank
everybody, I can't miss nobody.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You feel me that's true, though you know what I'm
saying so do you think, then,when it comes to the mention of
therapy, and then with yousaying that your hair is like a
mask, do you think that whatneeds to be discussed is
vulnerability?
Do you think that?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
that is what it is.
Yeah, that's one of the mainthings.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Okay, for sure, I feel like your next album should
be Vulnerability.
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I got the title for it already.
Huh, I don't know if I want tosay it Working on something.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Don't say it right now Don't say it, no, you keep
that in the tuck.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I should have kept that in the tuck.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Vulnerability could be a song, it's going to be
under a major when we drop thenext album.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Okay, well, let's talk about that.
Yeah, do you choose to be anindependent artist or are you
waiting for the right label tocome along?
Yeah, waiting for the right, Imean it depends, though.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
If we can get the independent thing really rolling
and being lucrative, becauseyou know being independent is
way more expensive than having amachine behind you and
supporting your dream.
But it depends.
If the right situation comes,then yeah, I'm going to take it.
I'm not against signing with amajor Okay, not at all.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So you have been approached previously, haven't
you?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay, Somewhat yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So what made you not go with those situations?
So what?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
made you not go with those situations the big one,
the one that I really notregretted, but the one that was
really like I was almost, youknow it was like creative
freedom, like creative control.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Okay, that was like the least thing that I was going
to get out of everything Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It was so many like perks and shit, but that was the
one thing that I really want tohave.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Because, as an artist artist you got to think about
the stuff that they want you todo, like they want you to do all
types of crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
They want you wearing dresses, all types of stuff,
like if I was a new artist youknow, I mean it would make uh,
you know I'm saying a littlemore sense to do some shit like
that just do whatever they'reabout to say.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You're gonna wear a dress, but to do some shit, Just
do whatever they ask you to do.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I was about to say you gonna wear a dress?
Yeah, but nah, hell, no, no, no, no, no I'm just making sure,
If I was a new artist, if Ihadn't put so much time into
this shit it would be easier forme to just you in your tracks
with what you're already doing.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
It's like uh-uh.
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Speaker 3 (23:36):
So how the music industry is now.
How do you feel about it?
Because so many differentthings are going on the the pd
situation.
Um, just a lot of things aregoing on and it's just like what
, how do you get there, like, doyou get to?
(23:57):
Like you get so much money, youfeel like you're untouchable,
like how do you get there when?
When do you lose empathy forother people?
Or how do you?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
remain humble.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, you're that guy in that mode like playing
basketball.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah you're that guy.
I got 39.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I think it go back to the same thing, as I said, with
the creative control, thoughI've just been doing it for so
long, I feel like I used tothink I wanted a deal so long
ago when I was younger, but Iprobably wasn't ready as a
person.
You know what I mean.
So it probably would have beenthose type of traits.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
you know what I mean would have been those type of
traits, you know I mean if Iwould have had that type of
emotion going right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So yeah, like I feel like I was just able to grow as
a person, you know, over time,even though I still I feel like
I got a long way to go, but I'vegrown to the point where you
know that that type of justdon't it don't phase you right
so what?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
what would I?
What do you think would havehappened had you had the
opportunity, at 18, 19, to signwith somebody?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I probably would have fucked it up by now.
I mean just because, like Isaid, as a person I wasn't ready
Music-wise, you know, but as aperson, hell, no, hell, no, yeah
, I would have Spend it Withthat perspective though Not even
just money-wise, like justdiscipline.
You know what I mean Deadlines.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You know Work, actually working.
Yeah, I think people think,when it comes to music, all you
got to do is go in there andhave fun and you know, do shows
and sit in the studio with yourfriends and stuff like that.
And you know, from what Iunderstand, it's a lot of work.
It's definitely a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
You got to think about, like Chris Browns and
Beyonce's, like I know, theyputting more than it's 24 hours
in a day.
It seems like they put morethan 24 hours in in a day to
make sure that their craft ishow they want it to be.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Plus their team too Right.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
That's what separates them from other people, though.
Yeah, but that perspective thatyou have on knowing that you
may have fucked it up and youneeded to grow as a person,
that's what's going to help youa lot when it comes to you going
to therapy.
That means that you alreadyknow how to reflect back, and
your perspective is everythingwhen it comes to therapy.
It was definitely life-changingfor me.
I'm thankful for it, because Iwouldn't I wouldn't be myself
(26:28):
now mentally if I didn't do that.
I would have been a bitter,hateful, you know, sad person
probably, but luckily I saw itas taking control of the rest of
my life.
To have, you know, to have gonethrough therapy.
I know it was a catalyst to mebeing more peaceful and living a
happier life mentally.
(26:49):
So kudos to you for just beingopen to doing that and knowing
that it's time.
I'm excited about it for real.
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
That's really awesome , yeah we love that Because the
thing is, most people try totell you when you should go to
therapy, but it's all for you.
So when you're ready, that'swhen you're going to get the
most benefit out of it.
When you sit right there andyou try to do it because
somebody's telling you to, it'slike I don't really want to do
it, I'm just doing it to pleaseyou, to appease you, but when
(27:20):
you're doing it for yourself,that's when it means so much
more.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I had zero interest at first.
I was like therapy?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
hell, no, yeah, I look like now.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's like I can't wait to do it because I can
imagine I can just see me, youknow what I mean on the other
side, like coming out of it,Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
How crazy it would be .
It's a I don't know.
I'm going to send you a message.
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, I don't know I'm trying to figure it out.
I definitely don't want to doit like locally or nothing, I
want to go somewhere wheresomebody that doesn't know me
and just somewhere I don't live,and just you know.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It's really good to do it in person too.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, energy is very telling, Igot a lot to yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I want to get back on this album really quick, though
.
What are you well who, whenyou're getting the reviews on
your album?
What are they saying?
More Like?
What songs are they saying Ilike this so much more.
I like this, I like this.
What you getting feedback?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
on.
Right now the favorites arelike All Right, with Me Chosen
Grinding.
Right Now it's a lot Like.
If you look on the Apple Music,it's like six or seven stars
beside.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Let me tell you something.
I'm one of the people.
I'm one of the people.
When I like something, I'mgoing to listen to it ten times
a day.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, same.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I'm telling you so you're going to get 10 views out
of me every day.
I know On at least four, five,six of your songs.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
The other day was my first time listening to
something else besides it.
I've been playing that shitevery day since it dropped.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I know I just listened to something new the
other day and I was like, hey,that one dope too.
I'm like dang.
I can't even tell them what Ithink is dope, because all of it
is dope, the album period isdope.
The album is overall dope forreal, and I like the comic theme
of it.
What made you go that route?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
That shit was.
How did that happen, amj?
You remember how?
The comic, how did I come upwith the comic book Thing for
the album?
It was something that sparkedthe idea.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Sparked literally.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, it was definitely smoking too, but it
was something that was like Ibelieve it was the intro.
I made the intro and then I waslike, damn, it would be dope if
I just themed this whole shitLike a superhero movie, comic
book type shit it was a dopeconcept.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Because you did it.
I would love to have that on myshirt.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
So yeah, we need some merch.
You feel what I'm saying, mj,get us in there, get us coming
soon.
You know I'm saying coming soon.
Definitely we're gonna makethat happen.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So we're gonna move this conversation a little bit
um more and we're gonna talkabout uh, what should we talk
about?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
first, red flags yeah , so we have um.
Well, first I wanted to bringup something that I heard you
mention on the last podcast, umwith the fellas.
You said something aboutpolygamy, and that is a hot
topic.
People have very strongopinions about that.
I have have one too, I'm sureJess does, but I want to know
(30:28):
specifically, because you didn'treally get into it.
So the whole purpose of youbeing here with the ladies is to
get into it.
So I want to know what is yourstance on polygamy?
Is this something you ventureto do, something you're
currently doing?
You know something you've donebefore?
Tell us all about it.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It's definitely something I've tried.
Okay yeah, wasn't successful.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Attitudes.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Okay, you can't deal with too many women at one time.
Nah, it was like them together.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
It was the women.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, like them clashing, them clashing rather
than you, because you happy inthis.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, I'm usually pretty chill for real, like
because you happy in this.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah, I'm sure I'm usually pretty chill for real,
like it take a lot to really getme, you know, to that next
element.
Yeah, it take a lot.
So yeah, I mean, yeah, I'minterested in polygamy.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, so there's polygamy, which means you have
multiple wives, but then there's, like throuples you know,
that's what they call them threepeople, two women and a man, or
whatever the situation is.
So why do you lean towardswanting to do that and not being
monogamous?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I'm, you want to know something, and I'm not judging.
I like them both, though, okayI'm not against being monogamous
at all.
Neither like it's not a.
It's not a.
Uh, I don't have to I don'thave to have it one way or the
other okay, I'm cool.
Either way, I can settle forone woman like I ain't that
crazy settle not.
(31:54):
I can settle for one woman.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I'm allowed to he said I'm allowed to use that
word right?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You got to watch your words right now.
Am I allowed to use that word?
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Settle.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
for me, settle means that so what's a better word for
that?
Or?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
it depends on what your intention of the word is.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
If settle is what you mean, that's what you mean.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I can choose to be with one woman if I want to yeah
, mind your business, ralph.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You back to come on down.
You over there with theheadphones.
Sir, drink your wine.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I could be happy with one woman.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Still drink it Still.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Now I could be happy with one woman if I chose to,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
So in that situation, was it that you were not happy
with one woman, or that was justa time in your life where you
wanted to try more than onewoman?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
That situation was kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
It kind of just came together for real, like so you
was with one of them, and thenanother one came in can you talk
about this?
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I was yeah, so I had one and I was cool with the
other one and she brought theother one.
She brought the one up one dayand I'm like, hmm, she told me
how it was kind of cool, coolhow like they were getting cool,
like they was about to startgetting real cool.
You feel me?
(33:11):
Oh yeah, so I'm like shit.
Y'all might as well you knowwhat I'm saying we all might as
well be cool.
You know what I'm, you knowwhat I'm saying?
We all might as well be coolyou know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
You know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying.
It's a three-way.
Yeah, like so okay.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
It was easy.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So was it just about sex and intimacy, or was it
about relationship with threepeople?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm going to be real with you.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
It was just about sex .
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I would never make either one of them my girlfriend
.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
All right, Y'all heard that right.
Don't try to double back now.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, I'm being real with you.
That was strictly what it wasfor.
You're cracking up over there.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I'm coming back to the camera, because I had to
turn.
I did too.
I would never.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
And it's just because you know what I mean.
I seen stuff, know stuff likehell no.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
So basically it was Because wouldn't that make you
not want to trust a person,though?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, and I got away with certain stuff.
Like, believe me, it would makeyou not want to trust a person?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I would think so.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I got certain stuff off in those situations, so it's
like you feel me Hell.
No, never.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So is that the only situation you've had?
That is, I mean, we can't evencall that polygamy, we need to
just call that a long threesome.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, that was more than just a threesome.
Yeah, okay, I've had more thanone threesome.
That's what you're asking.
No, I'm not asking that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I'm just asking if I won't get too deep in your
business.
I'm more so asking like thatparticular situation that didn't
work out To me it sounds likeit was more so around the sexual
part of it, as opposed to threepeople coming together and
trying to be in a relationshipthat works.
(34:51):
Most definitely Okay, I agree,okay.
So do you feel like an actualpolygamist situation can work,
where there's two people who areagreeable and it's not so much?
What I've seen is it's not somuch about sex, it's more about
partnership and like the threepeople working together For sure
.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
At that point in my life, though, I wasn't really,
you know, looking for arelationship in general.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
OK, yeah, for sure oh yeah, that would be dope.
I can see how it work.
I mean it's not for me, butlike sometimes, I wish I had
another person in my house doingstuff.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Okay, can I get a maid?
We talked about this on anotherepisode.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, like you can definitely clean and fold
laundry Like damn.
I got other shit to do thelaundry.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Huh, do something.
I guess that's a Show ass.
Up and do something.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, that's what I would have been telling the
third person Get your ass up,See you don't need to be in a
polygons Because you think youher boss.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Get your ass up and do something you think she.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Get your ass and do something that could be a good
situation if everybody is on thesame page if everybody got the
same goal.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, I see how it can work for people.
I don't feel that I could dothat because I don't personally
want to share my partner ormyself for that matter with
another person, but I'm prettyopen-minded.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I feel like it could work for people yeah, that's not
something that I'll be honestwith you, though that's not
something that I could seemyself doing like, so it's not
ideal for you, but you're notagainst it either right like I'm
not, uh, I ain't chasing it orthat's not something that I
really, because I'm gonna behonest with you, sometimes one
woman emotionally is enough.
You feel me so once it.
(36:39):
You got that coming at you fromboth ways, and I mean me right
now as a person.
It's pre-therapy me, maybepost-therapy me.
You know what I mean.
I might handle four.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
But right now, no, Mentally I can't even do it.
You feel me?
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Like mentally, I can't even do it.
You feel me Like mentally, Ican't even do it.
It's a lot Like especially ifyou are truly a good partner who
is in tune with the personyou're with.
I can't imagine being able tohave the capacity emotionally to
truly be who you need to be foranother person.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
That's a lot.
My emotional capacity is verylimited already anyway.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Well that's good that you know that yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I hate that, though I mean well you have.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Your emotional capacity is limited for other
people.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Why?
I mean when you grow up like Igrew up, you kind of be numb
after a while.
You know what I mean.
So I've been around a lot, Igrew up around a lot.
I've seen a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Well, sometimes, when you put out so much and you
haven't had the opportunity towork through all of that and
make sense of it and see howit's affected you and made you
how you are, you oftentimesdon't have the capacity to pour
into another person.
It's like I'm just givingmyself drops you know I'm barely
surviving.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
I'll be trying after the fact I'd be like damn, you
know.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I mean, I could have handled it better, I should have
did more.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
But I think it's really healthy to be honest with
yourself, like sometimes youknow as much as people want to
be in a relationship.
You know, I think it'simportant to be the best version
of yourself, or at least try toattempt to get there.
That's when the bestrelationships happen, is when
you're the best version ofyourself, because, man, you can
really damage people along theway and then that affects you.
(38:22):
You know that affects you lateron, like dang, you know I did
this person so bad or I wasn'tgood to this person.
You know, yeah, I agree.
Yeah, there's guilt that comeswith that.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
So I want to go into red flags.
Oh boy, I want you to tell mewhat's one of your red flags
that you see in females and ared flag that a female might
have addressed for you.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
You made your bed so late in it.
No need to pretend with it.
You know just what you want, sogo on and have your fun, not
going to entertain with it.
You know just what you want, sogone and have your fun, not
gonna entertain with it.
I know it's a shame, ain't it?
You want your cake and eat ittoo.
The best thing I did was leaveyou, I don't know, um, maybe off
(39:13):
the top like just sneakiness,like I'm real, I know this.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Everything, unfortunately like, but that's
(39:48):
just like I said.
That's a part.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I had a guy like that right so okay, don't piss me
off I don't question everything.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
you feel me I can notice something and shut the
hell up about it, but if it'ssomething that needs to be
spoken on, but I'm not the typethat's going to stress myself
either, if I feel like.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
I can't trust somebody.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I'm not going to rock with them like that.
So just like sneakiness isprobably one.
For sure, like I noticepatterns, I notice when stuff
changes.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
You have that gift of discernment.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
But you know that's good though, because patterns do
tell you the truth for real.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Don't get rid of that , honestly.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
No, no, keep that, that's a good thing, even in
therapy, when they're talking toyou about certain stuff.
Some of that stuff.
You need to keep that.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Don't lose yourself because you're trying to you
know, yeah, you can only adjustto people so much before you're
not yourself anymore.
You know, and discernment, andnoticing everything, you said it
like it was a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Sometimes it is, though.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
It is because sometimes you are it was for me
and mine You're functioning outof trauma.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Stop bringing up shit that don't matter.
Get your ass on.
You look at the person likewhat?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Exactly like.
Did you really dig that up Like?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
please, yeah, or how did you twist that into that
Younger?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
me, I would speak on everything I noticed.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
Now I just like but that affect me too.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, but that'll have me sitting there like I
don't even want to talk to yourass.
That's also not good.
Yeah, exactly Because you pushit down and in the back of your
head you're like, mm.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
yeah, I don't fucking treat you like that, but I'm
like that with everything,though, like you know, that's
what I'm going to therapy for.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
That's good it's going to help.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I love it.
I love to hear it.
What's the red flag that?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
other females Nonchalant.
Yeah, like I don't care.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Nigga don't be nonchalant.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
You don't even care you don't give a damn.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I be laughing.
If there's a nigga in heretrying to fight, type shit, I be
laughing, before I fuck him upBe honest.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Okay, so vulnerability is definitely the
what's the word, the theme here.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, that's going to be my cheat code.
That's what's gonna take me tolike the next level in life in
general yeah I promise youthat's gonna change your pace.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
It's hard though everything it's hard, though,
because when you've seen a lotand witnessed other people or
even yourself, you know, when itcomes to um, negative
experiences, vulnerability is sohard because it's like you, you
know all of these things arepossible, or people are capable
of all these things, andvulnerability is like you have
(42:25):
to set that to the side andtrust that they're not going to
be that thing, that you knowthat they can be Right, and I
think that that's for me, that'swhat's so hard about.
Vulnerability is like I'vealready learned all of these
things, like I'm, I'm, I'm twosteps ahead of you, right, it's
just about to point out a flawin your ass.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
DMX is like trust people for who they are.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
It's like if you know a person is a thief.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Trust them to be a thief.
If you know they're a liar, youtrust them to be a liar.
His documentary was reallypowerful.
I'm not even going to lie Whosedocumentary DMX.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Oh yeah, his videos and all the stuff that he went
through and who he became andhow he was like prolific with,
how he spoke to people, like itwas, it was very passionate.
I love that about him.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
I'm not even gonna lie, but vulnerability can be a
gift and a curse.
It's so hard to be vulnerableonce you're especially if you're
a person with discernment andempathetic because you do seem
that way, you know like youreally take things in Um, it can
be so hard to be.
I'm being serious, guys, I'mtrying my best, but you did not
see what's happening.
(43:28):
Thank you, just look at it.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Just look at Okay, forget the point I was making
y'all, because no, look at thesun.
It can be hard to be vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
for sure, it's hard to be vulnerable.
Look at the sun.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
That's hilarious, he's funny.
That is stressing me the fuckout.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
All right, that's funny.
Well, fuck what I was trying tosay.
So, lastly, we would like toplay a game.
Yes, I got two questions foryou.
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
You go first.
So with this game, we're goingto throw out a word and we want
you to think of a song that youthink of when you hit a word.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
My song or just a song?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Any song the first thing that pops in your mind,
but you have to sing it or rapit.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
See you doing it again.
The first word is love love yougotta put your hair in front of
you.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
You can damn love is a hard one.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Cause that oh, he doing it too um me too.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
I don't know.
Love supposed to be quickalright, uh, me too.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I don't know, love Supposed to be quick.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
All right Love.
I think the Kendrick Lamar song.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I can't hear you singing it.
I ain't want to be with you.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
All right, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Yeah, all right.
Next word is soul.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Soul Soul, first song that pops in your head.
Alright, next word is soul,soul Soul.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
First song that pops in your head.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
You ain't got nothing new you snatching nobody's soul
on vibes too.
Huh, you ain't snatching nosouls on vibes too.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
That ain't really my terminology.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Soul.
I mean that can be In a lot ofthings though.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Oh nah, you know what I got it.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
What you got.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Break my soul, beyonce, you gotta sing it.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Okay, sing it, you won't break my soul.
You won't break my soul.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Shout out to my sister Casualty man Shout out,
she got a Grammy for that.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Right there, man period alright, and we got vibes
.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
I would love for you to you know alright, vibes, I
think in the morning, but Iwon't be here when you wake up
in the morning in the morning.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
I know it hey fuck it with it.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
It's that wine, it's the wine, baby, that red wine.
Turn around baby.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
That red wine, do it all the time.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
And one more word, friend.
Okay, what it is?
You got it, cheat.
No, it's two more words.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Cheat Damn, that's a tough one.
Nah, she said cheat.
That don't really make me thinkabout cheat.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
It wasn't me.
There we go me think aboutcheating.
It wasn't me.
There we go.
It wasn't me, it wasn't me.
Yeah, that's it.
It wasn't me, it wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It was not me.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
So I want you cheating.
So we know that it wasn't youcheating.
It wasn't me All right, that'sone more word Um.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
All right, alright, so the last word was freak.
That's a tough one too she hasa very premature bladder freak
damn freak.
I'm the worst person on top ofmy head you're really not,
because I listened to your albumand there's plenty of that, so
I feel like you could sing that.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Don't be shy now uh, oh yeah, all right, I won't lie
the way you do it.
You're gonna start a fight onme.
There we go, I love it.
I love it featuring uh barrylavelle yeahVelle.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Alright, so the last two things I want to ask you.
I wish Jess was here.
She had to dip out real quick.
Alright, so the last two thingsI want to ask you.
This is kind of a sillyquestion, but it'll probably
stump you, so you have to pickone.
If you could add two inches toyour height but it would take
two inches from down below, oryou add two inches down below
(48:05):
and take two inches off yourheight, which one would you pick
If?
Speaker 2 (48:09):
I had to pick one.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
You have to pick one, two inches.
Yeah, you got it right.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I mean I could take two inches off down below and
still be good.
So be a little taller.
I guess I could take two inchesoff down below and still be
good.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
So be a little taller , I guess, I guess All right.
Speaking of, you mentionedearlier off camera something
about OnlyFans.
Why don't you talk to us aboutthat?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
No, I tried it.
It didn't really work.
Too much work.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
What do you mean?
Too much work it wasn't toomuch.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Too much work, what?
Speaker 1 (48:39):
do you mean too much work?
Speaker 2 (48:40):
It wasn't too much, too much, what?
Like, like, um, like I made myaccount and everything but like
if you wanted to do videos withsomebody else, they had to do,
they had to have an account andeverything too.
So like I already had thevideos ready, okay.
But you know, I I ain't hadanother person with an account
and everything.
It was too much work.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Okay, you plan on revisiting that.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Nah, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Okay, the last question I have for you respect.
And I got this again.
I got this from the DrinksChamps.
I listen to them religiously,so I want to know if you could
pick one respect or loyalty, andwhy.
It's a pretty debated topic.
It could go either way.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I'll take loyalty though, because you could not
respect me, but out of yourloyalty for me you might keep it
real you know, what I'm saying.
But if you respect me butyou're not loyal to me, you
might be like you know that's mydog, but I got to get him.
You know what I'm saying.
So, yeah, give me loyalty, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
So can you tell us we're going to wrap it up and we
really, really appreciate youcoming.
We are rooting for you.
We are 10 toes behind you.
Please keep us posted about anyshows.
We have something cooking aswell that we would like to talk
to you about off camera, but ifyou can tell us where to find
you, tell our viewers where theycan find you find your music or
(50:05):
any other content that you'dhave you'd like to talk about.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
You can find me everywhere at Firecash.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Look at the camera.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Middle camera.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
There you go.
That's you, that's you, that'sme.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
You can find me everywhere.
Firecash, f-i-y-a-c-a-s-h Onall the streaming platforms.
F-i-y-a-c-a.
Dollar sign H Don't forget thedollar sign, because if you type
in an S, they might not bringit up.
Everywhere though and more tocome soon we're going to be
airwaves too.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Don't forget the dollar sign.
Okay, that's my camera.
Don't forget the dollar sign.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
Thank you for your time it was a vibe.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Vibes 2 is out.
Vibes 2, stop playing with themthe jump is definitely a vibe
and I fucks with it.
She fucks with it.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yes, front to back, he fucks with it.
Make sure y'all don't get thatshit.
Everybody fucking with it.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
So let's go.
We gonna toast and clear thisup.
I know you got a water bottle.
We'll put it up, all right.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
It's Joe Frost.
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