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When NBA player Anthony Edwards made headlines for paying his child support in one lump sum, it sparked a nationwide debate about parental rights and responsibilities. On this episode of Girl Please, we're joined by special guest Chuck from the Man Listen podcast to dive deep into this controversy and other relationship hot topics that have everyone talking.

Chuck doesn't hold back as he describes Edwards' decision as a "financial abortion," questioning whether the mother's actions—allegedly taking $100,000 and moving states to increase child support payments—influenced this outcome. But the conversation takes an unexpected turn when we examine the 16-year age gap between Edwards (23) and the mother (39). Would we view this situation differently if the genders were reversed? The double standard becomes impossible to ignore as we dissect how society judges older women dating younger men versus older men pursuing younger women.

From there, we explore why Chuck refuses to post about relationships on social media, diving into how the "highlight reel" of Instagram and Facebook creates false expectations and unnecessary pressure. The wine flows freely as Chuck candidly admits his trust issues, leading to a raw discussion about whether anyone can ever be trusted completely. Carmen then shares a hair-raising story about being caught in a high-speed chase because someone wasn't honest about their relationship status—a perfect example of how "situationships" can quickly become dangerous when transparency is lacking.

Whether you're navigating the complexities of modern dating, questioning societal double standards, or just want an unfiltered conversation about relationships, this episode delivers eye-opening perspectives that will have you questioning your own assumptions and maybe even your approach to honesty in relationships. So pour yourself something nice and join us for this no-holds-barred conversation about love, lies, and everything in between.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Girl Please, where we dive into real
conversations, real laughs andreal life.
Just a quick note the views andopinions expressed on this show
are our own and don't representanyone else's.
We keep it fun, open and honest, so let's get into it.
This is Girl Please.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Welcome back.
Welcome back, welcome back toanother episode.
I'm your host Jessica.
I'm your host Jessica, and I'myour host Carmen.
And this is Girl, Please thepodcast hey y'all, thanks for
coming back.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
No, you can't take my soul, but you did it to me.
I swear I'm breaking bad.
Hey y'all, thanks for comingback and today we have a special
guest.
This is Chuck.
Part of the no Label Family andthe man Listen podcast Heavily
requested Somebody we would loveto talk to and debate a few

(01:02):
topics.
Thank you, chuck, for coming.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Thank y'all for having me.
Don you start.
No shit.
Nice thing.
That's how we doing this shittoday.
Really.
I know I said I won't cuss, butokay, so needless to say, uh,
chuck, and I like to debate.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
This is why I wore this shirt today, just so you
would be reminded over and overagain not to try me all right
either way just so you would bereminded over and over again not
to try me, all right.
Either way, you're trying to geta little drink in me or
something.
He pointing to it already.
So, even though you said youdon't drink wine, we wanted to
try this with you.
This is a wine that we havereviewed before, but we thought
Chuck might like it.
So this is the Stella RosaBlack.
Once again, it's a red wine,and it is fizzy, I have a

(01:44):
question.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Why would you think I like it?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Go ahead, man, use those strong muscles you got.
Please help, don't embarrass me, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Put your arms into it .
There you go there you go,thank you.
Thank you, you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
That makes you feel me that's useful okay.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's like the shit they put on the movies Right
before something bad happens.
You got truth serum in thismotherfucker.
Yeah, we do.
It's going to make you feelsexy.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
To the rim, baby.
God damn, take your time there,bud, it's okay, it's good, it
is good, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
They all foam like that.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
You see it, not all wines like that, yeah, you see
it, not all wines.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
What's the same bottle you talking about?
Yeah, I know this one foam.
I'm talking about the rest ofthe bottle.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
No, no, no no, it sounds like you've been through
some things.
I mean hey.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Hey man.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
All right, y'all, you pop the top Just letting you.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
There's nothing extra in there.
I know people that can do thatyou know what You've been around
the wrong motherfucker Lord,help us.
Okay, let's toast y'all.
What would you like to toast toChuck?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I don't know.
I hope this shit's safe, sonervous.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
What do you think we're going to do to you Health?
Put your seatbelt on.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's been a bit of a while Prosper prosperity.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I just need to drink to deal with you why you drink
yours first since you know somepeople that do shit like that
yeah, you would've turned yourhead, I'd have switched our
glass.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
See, I'd have switched our glass, you'd have
turned your head, so what youthink it is alright, though,
okay, okay, look at you he putyou on to.
He said what that is rightthere.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I cut the slow jams on right now.
There you go.
That's exactly what it's for.
You need a robe or something.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Oh, a robe Amen.
Okay, what else?
That's it Alright.
Alright, let's get into it.
So we wanted to talk about somelike heavily debated topics
when it comes to men and women.
We knew you would have aninteresting perspective.
So something I thought of whenI saw it online I thought Chucky
would have an interestingperspective on this, and you

(03:54):
probably have already talkedabout it online, I'm sure.
So a hot topic right now isAnthony Edwards, who plays for
the Timberwolves, and hebasically went to court and had
to pay child support for a childand he ended up paying all the
money up front.
What do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
It sounds like a good idea.
People go broke.
What have you had in 18 years?

Speaker 1 (04:20):
That's a good perspective.
What's the problem with that?
That just didn't seem like hisangle.
It didn't seem like he was.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh no, that wasn't his angle at all.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
That's what I thought about it.
What did you think his anglewas?
Take this money and go onsomewhere, I mean, that man had
a financial abortion.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
basically, I don't want nothing to do with it.
I don't agree.
I personally couldn't have akid out here and be like no,
it's mine, and be like fuck that.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Right, I feel like he's going to come back around
and end up having a relationshipwith him.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's a boy.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Actually, I don't know.
I think it is a boy actually.
I'm not sure.
Though Don't quote me on that,I'm a psychic.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
It's a boy, is a boy Alright.
No, I don't know.
Yeah, well, I don't know.
I personally couldn't.
And the money thing, I don'tsee nothing wrong with that, but
just being like I don't wantnothing to do with that baby,
it's kind of crazy.
So do you feel?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
like that, his actions when it came to that and
just kind of paying her themoney and getting it out the way
.
Do you think that was becauseof how she acted prior to the
court date and all that Didn't?
She take like $100,000 from him.
So apparently he wanted her toget an abortion, paid her
$100,000 to do so and then shedidn't do it and then took him
to court yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
What a $100,000 abortion.
Is that I?
Mean he was paying her off.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
He wanted her to get the abortion and get that loan.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Everything Like please bitch go.
The other thing she did that Ifeel like needs to be put out
there is that she's from Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
She moved to California to get California
child support.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she tried to finesse the system.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh, so she was in Atlanta and she went to
California to up the childsupport Right right.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, she on some bullshit.
She was talking like she littlebaby mama too.
That's what I right.
Yeah, she on some bullshit.
She was talking like she alittle baby baby mama too.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
That's what I.
Okay, that's who it was.
Yeah, I knew she was.
Yeah, she a little baby, baby,mama too.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, she know what she doing.
He gave you $100,000.
Why you ain't tell him?
Or did she tell him?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
she wasn't going to get rid of it when and that I'm
not doing it.
So I understand why he mad.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
He probably, like you said he probably come around a
couple years and be like allright, bitch, let me see my baby
.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
But damn, you took $100,000, then got over a
million dollars in child support.
I'd be like okay.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I'm going to see my way out.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
That's a lot.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Thanks for your time and be like, but I understand
why he mad, though I'd be pissedoff, I'd probably be on the
same shit like at this moment.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, I would feel like she's going to play with me
for a long time, can you?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
say fuck that baby on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Fuck you, fuck that baby, all that shit.
I think it's FTK if you want totry to be safe.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Okay, yeah but I got a question for y'all since we
talking about it.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
How do y'all feel about her?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
being 39 and him being 23?
.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
You really think you should ask me that.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, hell yeah, exactly, because I just know if
he was 39 and she was 23.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
It would be a different.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
He groomed her.
Yeah, she wasn't old enough tobe dealing with a man that age.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's definitely a different conversation.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
It's definitely a different conversation if you
turn it around faster than menso they say Mm-hmm, it's not
always the case, but when anolder man with a younger woman.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
She ain't mature.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I don't think that's true.
I think that the fact thatshe's mature I ain't saying it's
true I think that money plays areally big part in it, age-wise
, on one side or the other, it'svery typical for younger women
to date older men period, butespecially when they have money.
And when it comes to an olderwoman being with someone who's

(07:55):
younger, this is probably notgoing to go well with the
viewers, but I personally feellike if the woman is older, then
it may be more about money whenthe guy is younger.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
What.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Because, that's understandable.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's like you know she's probably reached a certain
place in age where you know shesettled down.
She obviously has another kidand things like that, right she
might, you know.
Obviously she got the payoutshe was looking for and that's
really how I see that situation.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
So you don't think there's no grooming or nothing
like that?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
on her behalf?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
No, because, because he a guy Probably not, is it?

Speaker 2 (08:27):
because, he a guy, or just because you don't think so
.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It doesn't take.
You don't have to groom men,okay, they're willing.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, that's what I love, whether you're 18 or 45.
It's kind of crazy to say.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I mean, okay, some women are now, maybe you can
grow them in other ways.
Or manipulate.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Maybe manipulate them in other ways.
I can't speak to that.
Other situations like yeah, ifa female is older than the male,
you kind of think like what isthat going?
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Your son come home.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I don't like that.
His girlfriend.
You always want to talk aboutmy kids, his girlfriend 15 years
older than him.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
You ain't going to feel like he ain't ready for her
.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
It would depend on If he's like 19, 20.
19 or 20,?
Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
He's 23.
So she had the baby.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
So he probably 20 when this happened, maybe 21.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I would feel like he was probably taking advantage of
her Because she's pregnant withnine, ten months and they was
dealing with her.
Yeah, so one of y'all kids heain't got no son.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I would definitely feel like he was being groomed
if he had money.
If he didn't have money, if hedidn't, I would probably.
I don't want to say that If hedidn't have money I would be a
little concerned At 19 or 20.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's different if he was in his later 20s.
I guess the nature of therelationship would matter.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Like if they're just messing around, I'd be like you
know, be careful, son, but ifshe got him, like, yeah, you
need to do this.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
No, you don't need to do that, you need to come over.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I would make their lives very difficult until it
ends.
Why difficult until it ends?
Why?
Because I don't want my son ormy daughter, but especially my
boys.
I feel like men are supposed tobe men.
Men are supposed to be in acertain position and I have
found in my own experience thatif the woman is more dominant,
or she's more mature, or she hasmore whatever, it can be a
little emasculating for menRight, and it just it creates a

(10:42):
imbalance that is not healthy,but I wouldn't want my son to be
with somebody that much older.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
No, Seriously, no, seriously, I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
It could be being grown I don't want to think
about it, I know.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I took it too far.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Realistically.
I hope.
I don't know if he's just beinggrown with somebody, it's his
business she knew what she wasdoing.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
She 39, he 23.
She definitely did.
He should have.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
He old enough to know , nigga, you need to pull out.
He old enough to know that.
But, man, we all have beenthere.
Well, I was going to say I meanhow many glasses of this before
he made that decision?

Speaker 3 (11:19):
You know what I shit happen.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
People act like they don't know shit happen.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
How many licks does it take to get?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
to a titty pop yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Huh To that 100k.
She probably be like I'm 39,.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I ain't having no more kids.
I don't even know how shesaying little shit like that
Hell, nah, I ain't having nomore kids.
So he thinking all she hadanother plan in mind.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I would be embarrassed if I was 39 and I
was pregnant by somebody that's23.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
She didn't give a damn.
I would be embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I would want nobody to figure out.
Find that out.
It is what it was now, though.
Still, she got commercials.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Because it doesn't matter.
He's not going to wife you andyou still look like a predator
in some people's eyes.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
You do.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Really, though still you know 39, 23.
There's a certain mindset thatcomes with people of an age of
39 and 23 that is way way toodifferent.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
That was the only reason I asked y'all that,
because I feel like that wholepart got glossed over.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, I feel like it is important to look at that too
.
A guy would have got drugged inthat same scenario, definitely.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, that happens every day, though.
I mean people, women are youngand have babies by older men all
the time, and I think it's notlooked at as bad because people
consider the man the provider,so they're like, oh well, she'll
be taken care of, which?
Is not even necessarily thebest way to think either.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
That's always been a weird conversation anyway,
because for some reason, youngergirls like older guys.
I remember being in school andgirls in my grade we in middle
school they talking to all theboys in high school already.
Then we get to high school,they talking to boys out of high
school.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Girls your age, older guys, guys like younger women.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I don't know why everybody know that, but it's
like a problem.
It's a double standard, forsure.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
It's definitely a double standard yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I wouldn't want mine, For the average man he ain't
did nothing wrong.
I don't think he's wrong eitherhe was bad boozing.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I don't think he was wrong, but he gonna come
around and do for the baby girl,though I believe, I think he
will.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I hope so.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, it might take a while.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Well, I mean, it would take me a while.
If, bitch, are you reallyplaying with me?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah she definitely is Like all that goddamn money.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
It's like come on now .

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, then she mad he like well, take the money then.
That's what you wanted, that'swhat you wanted, that's what she
wanted.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah huh, you got to see it.
I think that's all she wanted.
I don't think she cared whetherhe's there or not.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
No, no, as if you're going to have an abortion.
That means the baby wasn't whatyou wanted from him, because
you asked for way more moneythan I don't know how much it
costs for an abortion.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I don't even know if she asked for that, John.
I think he was just like huh.
Well, either way, that was foryou to get the abortion, get you
a new car.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
And shut up.
Don't go on vacation, don't goon social media.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Try to out me about this shit.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
She should have just took that and kept it moving,
but okay.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I mean, even if you decided to keep it all the child
support and all you should havejust took that to the chin.
You made that decision.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
So that brings up another topic that's very
similar to what we're talkingabout specifically, though,
because I've heard a lot ofpeople debate about do you think
that?
You know, women obviously havecontrol over their own bodies
when it comes to birth andabortion and whatever choice
that they make, obviously weneed a man to make that happen.
So I've heard a lot of peopledebate on is it fair when we've

(14:35):
heard, even in court cases wherea woman may not want to have
the baby, the man does want tohave the baby, and then it
becomes an issue because he'slike well, wait, you know, I
don't want you to get rid ofthis baby, right?
What do you think about thatdouble standard?
Because, on the other end, youknow, men can ask you all day to
have an abortion.

(14:56):
You're like no, I want to keepthe baby, you know.
Do you think it's fair thatthen those men in turn have to
go pay child support and supportchildren that they didn't want?
I don't think that's fair?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I don't think that's fair, because I mean you get to
if you don't want it, you justcan't do whatever you want to do
, but if I don't want it, andthen it's what you should have.
You knew what you was doingwhen you had sex, so did she
Right?
So what's the differencebetween men?

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Well, women always say oh, women have, you know,
choice over their own bodies,but men can't carry babies, it,
can you know?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
control it.
I got control over my money.
I don't want to spend it whenyou had a baby.
I don't want to pay no jobs forit.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I don't want to be around, but a lot of men are
scared to have that conversationbecause it sounds bad.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
but I believe I agree with you.
I'm definitely like I wouldn'tdo it personally, but I feel
like dudes should have theopportunity to be like look, I
don't want it, she want it.
I shouldn't have to beresponsible for it when it get
here.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
So what about?
Because?

Speaker 2 (15:51):
women don't got to be responsible for it.
When it get here, a woman canjust take her kid to adoption
thing and that's it.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
She don't got to pay her dad.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
She don't owe nobody no money or nothing Could you
imagine that's the same thing'mnot trying to speak this crazy
over nobody.
Women can literally take theirbaby to the fire station and be
like huh, they can.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
There's boxes there for some of them.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
The government not going to be sending her child
support payments.
She need to pay while it's atthe adoption facility.
What's the difference?
I agree, look at that.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
It's not fair, I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Of course you do.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Are you listening?
I think by the end y'allcircled around and y'all be like
see well, it was a friend thisis always the case.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I don't know why she acting like that with her little
shirt and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
She always agree.
You're the one that came here.
Nervous, yeah, but I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't think that's right though.
I don't think it're making thechoice.
If you've already been told Iain't trying to mess with that
and you do it.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
You made two choices that's true that's my personal
opinion and all choices haveconsequences, whether negative
or positive so correct there itis but niggas is still crazy,
though yep, I still judge niggasa little bit like that's your
baby, though, brother, like mepersonally, if I felt that way,

(17:09):
I still couldn't see me doing it.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Though get on Facebook, see if she uploaded a
picture.
See the baby look.
Just like me don't want nothingto do with it.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
That's why you just don't be Facebook friends with
your exes.
I ain't Facebook friends withmy current, if we go together we
live with, not to be Facebookfriends.
I learned my lesson there.
Way too many problems withFacebook.
I block everybody.
I block your mama.
Yeah, I'm the same.
Yeah, Every family member.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, everybody, delete, delete, delete Everybody
you know, get them out of there, can't?
Nobody you know?
Come to my page.
We're going to go ahead andwrap this up.
You got to go.
Yeah, of that Me either.
What do you feel like men dealwith the most when it comes to
women and how they interact withmen?

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I really don't know what you mean by that, for what
we talking?

Speaker 3 (18:02):
about or just in general.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Just in general what do we deal the most?

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Is it women's lack of understanding?

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Social media like the , everybody got, like this false
reality and then you got realreality.
I think, that's something wegot to deal with.
Your girl, she looking on theinternet, she saying what these
people doing, and they want tomimic that and it's like but we
ain't, we ain't got a lot, ain't.
We ain't getting paid to liveour life.

(18:33):
They getting paid to be on TVor to do whatever they doing.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Well, a lot of times those people don't own what
they're showing you anyway.
Yeah, that's another thing.
That's why I said a falsereality, but a lot of women now,
especially in our generation,and stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
it's like social media is really what everybody
wants, like a social mediarelationship.
But the stuff you're seeing onsocial media like somebody could
be getting I don't want to saygetting abused, but on camera
they look like that.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
But you want what they got.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I ain't touched you.
We doing better than them,honestly.
But they look happy on therebecause they toasting their
little sundaes and wherever theyat.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I've been in that position.
I think you know there's beentimes in my past where my
relationship may have lookedpicture perfect on social media.
I've even had people say youknow, y'all look so happy or
y'all so cute together, you knowstuff like that.
And then like you said, yeah,like you said you know, if you
really think about it, whathappens day to day.
It's like it's not that pretty,and I'll say I wasn't

(19:34):
personally trying to portray animage.
I think I was capturing thegood images that we did have at
the time, because, just like anyrelationship, yeah you know
social media like a

Speaker 4 (19:45):
highlight reel.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's showing all the good stuff, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
It's showing all the nonsense.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, I learned my lesson, though I barely post at
all about my relationship now.
Yeah, yeah, I ain't with that,no more, not no more.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, I was on social media.
One relationship.
I'd never do that again Be morespecific no, no, hell no, you
can't say the situation Nah Imean, you want some more wine?

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Mm-mm, I still got some.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Okay, I mean too much of it.
Exactly Take more than a sip,mm-mm, not a sip, I mean, you
know you got people posting themon your page and stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Are you posting selfies and stuff?
Hell no, I ain't really doingall that.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Y'all don't know if y'all know that or not.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
I'm not a picture person, I ain't take my cap and
gown.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
My mama still mad at me about that.
She should be right beside yourhead.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Still today, you should still take them.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Nah, that's over Take them now they're good for my
mama I'm so dumbass, who's?
This old man.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
He's just graduated he graduated college, he got a
gray hair.
He do it this is high school.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I got my diploma.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I got my high school diploma.
Looking crazy right now.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Hey, I might do something for you.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Nah, hell nah.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
But, yeah, I ain't but yeah, man, you're posting
people.
Shit ain't what it's supposedto be.
What is your fear with postingsomebody?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
The niggas that ain't posting.
Yeah man, somebody might becracking her and then you on
here showing her off.
I done been on both sides ofthe gun that's your problem, you
was cracking somebody, and thenshe was getting cracked.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
You've had too many experiences of your own to make
you scared.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
I feel like I done solved it, your observation.
We have the solution now.
The solution is what to makeyou scared?
There ain't no damn problem.
I feel like I done solved it,your observation, man.
We got the solution now.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
The solution is what?

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Ain't nobody give me both.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Don't trust nobody, ain't nobody gonna post it.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
No, I can trust you, bro.
I ain't trust you, I ain't.
I said both sides.
He said both sides.
This is odd.
This is odd we.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
We over here.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Y'all understood what I was saying, right?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
You're going to get your turn.
No, no, no.
Y'all got me right, Y'all knewwhat I was trying to say.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Okay, all right cool, we all back there.
He stay trying to.
You know what I'm saying.
He be all behind camera hebehind camera still trying to
start something Hell Stay in thepot.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Stay in the pot what you want me to say so.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
you know the bad side of most things.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I ain't gonna say most things, but definitely that
Regarding relationships andtrust and stuff like that.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't really trust peoplelike that.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
So, with all that experience that you have, what
would you say are your red flagswhen you meet somebody, or
certain conversations you mighthave where you're like mm-mm.
I'm, or that put women in acertain category, where you
already know this is whereyou're going to be and this is
where you're not going to be.
What are your?

Speaker 4 (22:32):
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Speaker 2 (23:43):
I'd be I don't know, because I'd be putting everybody
in this way.
We're not gonna be, because I'mlooking for no relationship, so
off the rip.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I really hope you find love Me too.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
I'm being so serious, thank you.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
I love people though.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
A safe love.
I'm loving people.
No, we're saying a love, that'sgoing to make you settle down.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I don't know if that's what you want to do.
That's what you want to do?

Speaker 1 (24:10):
that's what you want to do.
That's what you want to do.
That's what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
That's what you want to do.
That's what you want to dothat's what you want to do.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
That's what you want to do.
That's what you want to do.
That's what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
That's what you want to do.
That's what you want to do.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
That's what you want to do I, I trust you, okay, real
much is.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's certain stuff.
Trust is, you know.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I trust certain people with certain stuff.
Certain family members that goaround got to lock them doors.
Baby yeah, Lock them up.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I understand what you're saying.
Everybody can't be trusted withcertain things.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I mean I could trust you, but I ain't going to trust
you.
I ain't going to trust nobodyever in life, 100%.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I feel the same way.
It's never going to happen.
I think everybody is capable.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
I feel like everybody should think that way, though,
yeah.
Like honestly where he is.
Like you said, I got problemsso.
For me it's not a big problem,Once I believe it it's over.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Oh God, yeah, I'm that nigga Like once you do.
If I think you did something,what?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
makes you think Past trauma.
Yeah, what other people sayExactly?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Please don't put somebody in a category that
don't belong there, right inthere See.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
You're going right in there.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
That's the fucked up stuff, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I know.
That's why all we botheringpeople, that's why I'm sitting
here telling y'all I know I'mfucked up.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
You know what I'm saying.
I'm glad you said it with asmile Self I'm mad at that,
honestly.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, I ain't trying to hit your phone at 2, 3
o'clock in the morning.
That's a red flag.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I'm not trying to hit it?
You ain't trying to hit a phone.
What?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Your phone died.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Oh, it died.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
You went out with your girls.
I ain't tripping you at yourlittle girl's night.
Oh yeah, my phone died.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
We was having so much fun.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
No everybody, you was fucking, you was fucking Wow.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Cause she had fell asleep, right Cause.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
That's usually.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
That's usually the man that has happened to me.
Okay, a man will say I wasasleep, baby, baby, I was just
asleep.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
You can just be asleep though.
Women be asleep, but y'all canbe asleep, but we can't be
asleep.
I'm quick to fall asleep.
I can tell you what you can'tdo.
I said what I ain't tell you.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I ain't tell you you won't sleep.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I said you was fucking, if you ask me it don't
make no sense.
Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
You need to get past that.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Nah, I'm a boy.
It depends on who you are.
It depends I guess I don't feelthat way about everybody.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Who would?
You not feel that way about?
What would a person have toprove to you to make them a
trustworthy woman?
That if she says I fell asleep.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Trustworthy in what regard.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
And you trusting her word, just her word, if she says
I fell asleep, if she hasalways been trustworthy as far
as her word, where she is, whatshe's doing.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I might take it, but I don't know if I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
It's gonna bother you for like a week.
Yeah, yeah, I might see him andbe like three months down the
road.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
I gotta prove it to you.
I'm gonna let her have it.
I'm gonna let her have it.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I wanna see how quick you fall asleep around the
house.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I wanna see you nod off with your phone in your hand
over here one day.
So you're gonna conduct someresearch.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know you gotta do that
.
That's crazy, you ain't neverjust fell asleep over here,
phone in your hand.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Well, maybe she.
You know she's with you, so sheain't got no reason to just
fall asleep.
You know I fall asleep all thetime.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
If y'all talking, if y'all spending, I see y'all
can't be with you.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
you just fall asleep around anybody, it's her friend.
It's 3 o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I'm about to be sleeping some strangers and just
pass out Nah we're not anystrangers.
You can get around your homeand get loose just nodding off.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Now she's getting loose because she fell asleep
around her friends, I mean goingoff what she said she said
maybe she don't just fall asleep.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
You know what I'm saying?
I'm saying like, because youwas like let's see if she falls
asleep around me.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
But, she hasn't been out all night drinking with her
friends, don't care.
All right, it's on my nerve.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
It's over.
So the trauma that you've beenthrough has really set in.
I don't consider it trauma.
You don't consider it trauma.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
You think it's?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
an observation, it's life experience.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Do you?
Think you attract what you are,nah yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Let's elaborate.
A wise man once said you say noto ratchet pussy.
Juicy J came.
Juicy J came.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
That was it for you, right there.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
So who are you?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
So which one are you?
You Juicy J, or what?

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just saying do you attract?
I don't know about all that, Idon't know.
I feel like I'm a great guy.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
In my mind you do.
Yeah, that's nice.
I don't think you're a bad guyIf somebody told you about your
flaws and some things that youneeded to change.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
are you willing to change who?
Telling me Somebody that hasinterest in you?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Why the hell they was interested in me.
I got all these flaws.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean.
It's not that you have a lot ofI mean all these flaws, but
sometimes you need somestrengthening in your character
building skills.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Who is giving me this advice?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
So you're saying you have to consider the source?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Who are you to ask me this when you're this?

Speaker 4 (29:20):
I understand what you're saying, you know, I think
you're just very confident inwho you are.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I think that Chucky is not changing.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I changed a lot.
I just told y'all I don't drink, I don't cuss, no more.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Y'all made me relax, y'all made me relax, y'all
giving me wine, y'all setting meup, y'all setting me up.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Y'all got me drinking .
Crazy work.
You're just sipping.
She's strong man, oh it'sstrong.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
And then drink was shut up yeah, I don't know, it
depends on who and it depends onwhat they say.
It depends on what they say.
It is cause some stuff I'm not,I probably ain't alright.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
So what have you heard over and over and over
again about myself, no matterwho it is that you deal with.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I think I know everything oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, accurate.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
What else?
But I ain't changing thatthough.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
That's alright.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
But you know, I ain't really been In a lot of
relationships you don't have tobe In relationships.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
I mean, if you deal with women For people to have A
direct observation Of how youact and what you do to them.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I'm sure when they Get pissed off at you, I mean.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
I ain't been in.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
To let you know that's what women like to do.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Why are you telling me about my?
What happened for you to feellike you got to tell me that.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Who knows what happened.
I mean, I'm sure there's plentyof scenarios that happened with
you and women.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Like what?
What you think I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'm sure you pissed them off what?

Speaker 2 (30:46):
situation would you have to tell somebody about
their self that you just messingwith?

Speaker 4 (30:55):
She got the answer you looking at.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
When she got the answer you look like as we go on
to the next segment.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
What happened Wait a minute Was that a baffling
question, I'm just trying tothink of how to approach it.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Okay yeah, well, you're very into it now, now
that I have to get in the hotseat.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
I've had to tell people in a situationship about
themselves Like you want me totell you in a situation ship
about themselves, like you wantme to tell you, like what I said
?
No, no, no.
What was the situation?
What made you?
Say that Certain things thatthey said didn't line up with
their actions Like don't keepfeeding me stuff that I'm not
even asking you for in the firstplace, yeah, but see, I ain't

(31:34):
doing all that.
Okay, you just gonna stoptalking to him.
No, what you saying you justgonna be honest from the
beginning what you saying.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Like y'all just dealing with each other, but he
we have a situationship.
Mm-hmm.
Had a situationship Right, andthen you know if there are them
things that you got to checkthem about, what would be?
I need to because I'm followingyou, but I ain't really

(32:02):
following you.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I'd rather not be specific, I'll be, Be specific
off camera.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
We in a situation she don't be specific off camera,
she try to be specific offcamera.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
And we talking like you should be able to tell me
whatever in-home activities yougot going on.
Don't be playing, ain't, nobodygot time for that.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Be honest, like what Huh?
Yeah, what's going on here?
Y'all done.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Stop.
No, because I don't likeputting people out there.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
I don't have a problem with somebody.
Huh, am I?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
nervous?
No, you don't make me nervous,you act like me like 10 times
you starting to act nervous.
I'm not nervous, or is she just?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
deflecting you and trying to talk about that.
Sometimes you gotta deflect alittle bit.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
We can talk about it.
Like she said, if you have acertain situation, you know, if
you deal not in a relationshipIf we're in a situation.
I'm going to assume you are Iassume you are.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Is that because y'all ?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
are.
It's because I can't, I ain'tasking, could you?
Of course you could.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
You could while you're married, oh.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
God as a married woman.
If I'm a married woman, I'm notgoing to do that, but If I'm a
married woman, if I'm a marriedwoman.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
you know I'm not going to do that, absolutely not
.
But you will if you're in asituation.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
If I'm in a situation , yes, because it's not a
relationship.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
You can.
You're trying to say I could.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
That just said.
I can't In this particularsituation.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
no, Y'all are real slick.
I like that Trust me, y'all areslick, I am slick.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
No, you be trying to hem us up.
It's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
No, no no, I feel what you're saying, though you
got some odd shit going on, butit's serious over there.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, just be honest about that.
It's not hard.
But I think that men.
But you asked me about that,yes.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Why Can I speak on the story?

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Because you don't want to go into certain
situations where you'reblindsided and somebody wants to
fight you or somebody keepsshowing up.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
So back to what I'm saying.
Oh you, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I got a story on that , okay.
I got a story on that, okay sheready now one time you know, oh
boy, in a situation, ship withsomebody, karma.
You are aware of the situation,so you know, we, we pulling up
going to the crib or whateverhis crib.
So you know we pulling up goingto the crib or whatever his
crib Get down the driveway.

(34:19):
The girl that he's dating is inthe driveway.
This nigga backs up, skit wegoing 110.
This nigga got me on a highspeed.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
She's like he's crazy .

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yes, she's chasing us .
He's not crazy, she's crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
No, he's crazy.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yes, she's chasing us .
He's not crazy, she's crazy.
He's crazy.
First of all, why would youbring me down there?
Don't take me somewhere.
You got all this shit going oncause I will do something.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I would have been lighting his face up the whole
time shut up, here you go.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I told you remember what I told y'all Joe find a
clip.
Oh, did we ask?

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Now we get to the stop sign or whatever.
The girl pull up behind us, hegets out the car, so she did 110
behind y'all.
Yes, who?
The fuck is this Exactly?
Bitch, you was crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
You, finna, kill yourself over a nigga.
That ain't crazy.
I ain't chasing nobody 110miles an hour.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
That's crazy insane yeah and I mean it lasted for
like 15 minutes and I'm in thepassenger seat, then what really
?
What really had me fucked upwas when this nigga said duck
she about to start shooting.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Exactly is that?

Speaker 1 (35:31):
why, he said that what?

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I don't know what.
I still don't know to this daywhy you told me to duck.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
But when I tell you, he didn't want her to see you.
Maybe, I guess for real.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
For me, if this bitch come here and start shooting.
Don't put me in a situationlike that people are crazy
though.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I said take me to the police station no, because you
don't know what she's going todo.
People are crazy.
If she could have got out thecar and the girl was behind them
, she might have hit her withthe car she got out the car.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Right, he got out the car.
He let her walk close to him,then he jumped back in the car.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I would never speak to him again.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
It's over did you speak to him again?
Did I speak to him again?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
we did have conversation after.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yes, we had conversation after, but it was
because nigga, what the fucklike who is?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
this girl.
You want her plate number?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
yeah, I want to know who this bitch is?
See y'all drinking.
That was a story to tell whatthe fuck Like who is this girl,
you want her plate number yeah.
I want to know who this bitchis.
See y'all drinking.
That was a story to tell.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
I had a good question after y'all that was great.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
It wasn't better than that, so it don't even matter,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
It wasn't trumping that at all.
Yeah, that was a Back to what Iwas saying what we were talking
about at first what you weresaying I ain't been in a lot of
relationships and I said I ain'treally looking, so I'm not
going to tell you nothing.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
You don't really have to.
I don't know, I think itdepends, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
If you are being, I ain't got a bunch of lies to
tell you and all that yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
If you're not telling lies.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
It doesn't matter stuff on the table, but if you
are trying to feed somebodysomething, I mean, you might
text me like what you and suchand such got going on.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I might ignore it, but I ain't gonna lie, though I
ain't gonna text you back either.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
So ignoring it is, I just didn't answer it, so I
never lied.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
If you're the type of person, a man that's just
honest if you're not askingquestions, though.
But if you have somebody whoyou're in a situation with and
then they they're trying to feedyou certain things.
You know, my mind immediatelyin any conversation goes to
hypocrisy how you gonna say thisif you did this.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Or how you gonna say this, if I know this.
Yeah, see, when I was sayingsituation, I just sound like
y'all talking more about, I meany'all referencing more.
Like you're talking to somebody, but like it's y'all kind of
like working towards goingtogether if it's not in depth.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
You just scratching the surface, surface, surface.
Um when I, when I think ofsituations, I think about that
ain't going nowhere, so allright, but it ain't going
nowhere, but situationships turninto something though, yeah,
sometimes.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That be the problem though.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Sometimes— that's not my goal in a situation.
Just to be clear, I alreadyknow what it is from the jump
when I approach it, but you knowwhat I know what I do is be
lying, though, because you goingto cut me off If I say yeah,
you know that's my girl.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
You know I really do love her.
I probably ain't going to leaveher alone, you out of there.
More than likely you out ofthere, oh for sure.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Give me the opportunity to make that choice.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
That's the problem.
I don't want you to have thechoice when you take my choice
away.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
That just does something to my spirit.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Like I'm going to do something to you.
You keep when I say dosomething to you.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
I mean like mentally, do something to you, okay.
Okay, you go to jail for thattoo, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, but I don't know.
I mean yeah, you got to take,you know you got to lie a little
bit.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
No, you got to be honest a little bit.
No, you can be honest a lot,but you got to lie sometimes no.
Lying is neededall don't neverlie.
I have not lied to the personI'm with.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
First of all, women can't tell the truth.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Now I will say I have not lied.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
That's why women cling to niggas like Steve
Harvey and shit.
Because they pander to women,they can't tell the truth.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Steve Harvey has had many wives.
Motherfuckers can't tell menothing.
He had to do some lying.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
I don't know about that.
I will see some things on his.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Man listen.
Women can't have the truth.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
If men tell women, it's the absolute truth.
I don't agree with that.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Tell me the truth, I promise you, I don't agree with
that.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
I ain't gonna do nothing to you Men are Niggas is
crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I don't think women understand how unhinged niggas
really is.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
No, we know.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Oh, I know, you ain't never met niggas like yes, yes,
I guess I haven't met a few,for sure, yeah.
It can be rough, though.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I think men and women are crazy it just depends.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, but me I'm crazy.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
You can get crazier.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Man Bad, I don't like that.
I don't know.
I think my boy Brent's tryingto say something off Everything.
All right, we got to.
So, All right.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Well, chucky, you know know, it's been lovely that
you came in.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
It's been real appreciate you coming on here,
just glad you was honest andbeing I try who you are.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
You know at all times .

Speaker 2 (40:47):
I try my best.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I wish you would've finished that while we were
talking matter of fact, this isthe time let's buck it.
Yeah, let's talk buck it iscrazy come on buck it.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, let's toast the bucket is crazy.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Come on, bucket, it's the Lord's day.
It's the Lord's day.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
It's Joe Frost.
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