April 14, 2025 • 32 mins
In this episode, Brody shares some exciting news and updates about the No Sanity Required book, orientation, and responding to listener emails.
Brody gives a behind-the-scenes look at the recent SWO25 staff orientation, why it matters, and how it helps prepare the team for a strong summer. He unpacks key moments from the weekend, including a session on Colossians 1:28–29 and the mission statement that drives Snowbird.
He also answers a listener's question about women preaching, diving into what the Bible says and how those convictions are lived out at SWO.
Along the way, Brody shares some encouraging feedback, gives shoutouts, and reminds listeners about the upcoming Respond Conference—with limited spots left.
- Colossians 1:28-29
- 1 Timothy 2:12
- 1 Corinthians 14:34
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
listener emails.
Responding to those, an updatefrom this past weekend uh, two
weekends ago, rather, we did our.
We had our staff orientationweekend and some updates on
what's going on here right nowat SWO and the the sort of, as
our energy and focus turnstowards the summer, what that
looks like.
And then an excitingannouncement that I'm looking
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forward to sharing with you onthis episode of no Sanity
Required, so welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Welcome to no Sanity Required from the Ministry of
Snowbird Wilderness Outfitters.
A podcast about the Bible,culture and stories from around
the globe.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So this week is going to be a little bit shorter
episode.
Just want to give you a fewupdates and read some emails.
Update number one and this isan exciting announcement the no
Sanity Required book, which iscalled no Sanity Required the
Visionary Story of SnowbirdWilderness Outfit outfitters, is
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finally done.
It's complete Final edit isdone.
Um, so grateful to HarryMcSween and Susan Greenwood who
have worked with me to get thatcontent out.
Um, they've done a phenomenaljob of editing and helping me
kind of stay going in the rightdirection.
It's been a long process.
This is a book that a normalperson could have probably
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written in a couple of weeks andit's taken me a long time.
And, uh, but we're, we'realready.
We're excited about book two,which we'll uh, talk about.
Um, you know down the road, butbook two is going to be a no
sanity stories.
We're going to look atdifferent stories A lot of folks
that have been on the podcastand others that maybe you've
never met and we're going to seebiblical principles come
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through from from the lives ofpeople that have been impacted
by a snowbird wildernessoutfitters.
Looking forward to that nosanity stories That'll come out,
hopefully next year.
So, um, the book is done, otherthan, uh, amy Davis is
finishing up some of the designand graphic work.
Amy is phenomenal.
Most of what through the years,most of what you have seen.
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If you've been to an event atSWO, whether it's stage design,
the thing that I think of thatlooks so cool that she did last
year was the Gaga Pits.
If you've ever been to SWO youknow what a Gaga pit is.
It's a game that kids love toplay, a big, big round, um, it's
like a.
It's kind of like a Dodge, acontained Dodge ball game, and
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her graphic design on those isphenomenal.
Anyway, amy's my favoritedesigner, um, because she just
so much of the way SWO has done,the things we've put out
through the years, so much of ithas her thumbprint on it.
But anyway, she's doing thebook design.
I'm excited about that.
Harry has worked so hard overthe last couple months to get
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the book organized, because theway I wrote it and put it
together it wasn't realstreamlined.
It wasn't like a steady flow ofthought, it was kind of up and
down and all around.
And then Susan Greenwood, whohas been kind of the key editor,
the primary editor for the book, and actually helped me get
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thoughts on paper kind of helpedpoint me in the right direction
early on when we're trying toget traction with the book.
So, anyway, no sanity required.
The visionary story of SnowbirdWilderness Outfitters that's
coming, that's, that's going tobe, lord willing, ready to roll.
It goes to print in a week and,uh, it should take a month or
two to get it out and we'll haveit available, um, for you guys,
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and if you're coming to SWOthis summer, we'll have it
available this summer and then,um, we'll let you know how you
can get your copy once we havethe books in hand.
So, um, excited about that.
And the next thing just camethrough our orientation weekend.
The reason we do orientation isbecause years ago we realized
we do our staff selection in thewinter.
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So we're, we're telling peoplein January hey, you've made it,
you're on the team, after alengthy application and then
lengthy interview process.
We're very it's pretty intenseto apply to work here and then
to go through that process.
It's not casual.
There's a lot of work to bedone and in filling out an
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application and then, once youfill that application out, to
work on our summer staff,there's a pretty involved
interview process, not just asingle interview, but there's
going to be some conversationsand then and then a really big
interview with one of our umhiring team.
So anyway, that all goes on inJanuary.
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What I'm getting at, that allgoes in on in January and then
by the time staff training rollsaround it's mid May.
Well, I don't know, uh, if yourealize it, but four or five,
five months is a lot of time fora college-age student or a high
school-age student to changetheir mind, and it could be that
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they just kind of lose interestand they don't understand the
importance of sticking to yourcommitment.
Or it could be far less seriousthan that.
It could be.
Something comes up, a schoolinternship is all of a sudden
presented and it makes moresense to do that to get that
degree finished or whatever.
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Family dynamics, somethinghappens at home.
So we used to see a pretty highattrition rate from January to
May.
So we'd have, let's say we had100 people that we had nailed
down to be on the team inJanuary.
May rolls around and maybewe've only got 85 to 90.
And so you know, 10, 12, 15% isa huge drop-off.
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So initially we startedcorrecting that by over hiring.
So if we needed a hundred, we'dwe'd go with 110.
And then, sure enough, that bitus because the you know, there
was one year where we did 110and needed 95, let's say, and
nobody dropped.
Nobody dropped, and so we endedup with 15 more people than we
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needed, whatever it was thatyear, and so we had to do some
pruning and weeding out.
Anyway, why we do, the reason wedo the staff orientation
weekend is because it gives uh,our staff a spring weekend in
early April.
That uh, you know, if they, ifthey and now the selection may
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be late January, early February,so within a within eight weeks
of knowing that they've made theteam, they're going to show up
here for an orientation weekendand it just kind of gets them
excited about the summer.
It's a it's a really enjoyableweekend.
We uh we have a few sessionswhere we're we're teaching sort
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of philosophical stuff, why wedo things the way we do things.
We're challenging them, we're,we're giving them a word of
encouragement for how theyfinished their semester.
And then, when the stafforientation weekend is over
there, they're like five or sixweeks until they're going to be
back for staff training, whichis a two week process, a two
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week training.
So orientation kind of givesthem a little spring bump.
Um, it helps everybody to tomeet face to face and and uh,
it's a good weekend Starteddoing it several years ago quite
a while now, probably 15 yearsago and it's been real effective
.
We uh we didn't do it COVIDyear and we didn't do it the
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year following COVID and wethought about dropping it and
not doing it anymore.
But by popular demand, everyonejust loves it, so we've
continued to do it.
So we just came through that Ishared.
On Friday night of stafforientation weekend we walked
through the mission statementand the two verses Colossians 1,
28 and 29, that drive ourmission statement and we looked
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at those three principles thatyou hear me talk on here about
that.
We hold a high view of thesovereignty of God, we hold a
high view of Scripture and wehold a high view of the
responsibility of man and a lotof people will use that phrase,
responsibility of man.
That's where they'll use thephrase free will.
But we like to go a stepfurther.
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It's not just that you have thewill to choose this or that,
it's that you have aresponsibility before a
sovereign God to to be obedient,to be on mission to fulfill the
task of of building the churchand growing the kingdom.
So, um, we looked at thosethree things on Friday night and
how the mission statementdrives those.
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So what we're going to do iswe're going to um in in this
episode, we're going to includea link to that message so you
can jump over there when you'redone with this episode and
listen to the message that weshared on, uh, friday night of
staff orientation.
Help you kind of wrap your headaround the philosophy behind
what we do, and I think you'llenjoy it and get a lot out of it
.
And this is a challenge that isnot just for Snowbird
Wilderness, outfitters,employees or team members, it's
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for the church, it's for thebeliever, it's for Christ
followers.
And, matter of fact, I took themain outline of that and shared
in a Great Commission Sundaymessage at a church in
Jacksonville Florida last Sunday, at a church in Jacksonville
Florida last Sunday, justbecause I think it's such a
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clear blueprint for how we're toall live on mission.
So I'm going to share that withyou.
But before we get there, Iwanted to just tell you, coming
out of orientation weekend, andso I did that Friday night and
then on Saturday morning, um, wehad some meetings.
Um, john Rouleau gave a chargefrom Joshua three on leadership.
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Uh, saturday evening, zach umspoke to the staff.
That and that's as far as we go.
Sunday morning they eatbreakfast and they get on the
road.
So we had three sessions, butthen we had some meetings in
there and then, uh, just a lotof free time, rec time, some
small group, just just gettingto know one another.
So, anyway, it was a goodweekend, very productive, and so
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all of our staff.
You can be praying for them.
They'll be showing back up herearound May 11th, 12th, right
right around in that weekend,that second weekend of May to
start, on that Monday, ourtwo-week staff training.
Excited about that, okay, let'ssee what's next.
What did I want to do next?
I wanted to.
So we got the book talked about.
The book talked about stafforientation.
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I want to read some fun.
Where's this one?
There's one really fun book.
Okay, this is from a pastor,friend, student, pastor James
Mooney, in the Charlotte area,concord, north Carolina, to be
exact.
He said brother, I waslistening to the Rudolph episode
and filling up my truck at thegas station.
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The dude across from me justlooked at me like I was nuts for
listening to this podcastcranked up about the Olympic
bomber.
It was great, enjoyed this oneman.
So thanks, james.
That's a hilarious scene that Ican picture in my mind.
First off, you need to knowJames Mooney is about 6'8".
I think he's ginormous, he's abig man and so I'm just
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picturing I do this, y'all mightdo this.
You open your door and youleave whatever you're listening
to playing while you're pumpingyour gas, and so, yeah, uh
podcast about the olympic bomber.
I got a lot of funny um and andfun uh comments on that one, on
that episode and jb her momeven sent.
It was cool.
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Jb showed me this morning hermom sent a picture of uh jb.
You know we talked about therecorder playing the little
recorder in elementary schooland uh and and doing such a
terrible job of doing uh.
I was so bad at it.
But anyway, jb's mom sent apicture of hers.
That was fun.
So anyway, thanks for that,james Mooney.
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Look to see you soon at SWO.
Thanks for leading well thestudent ministry there at
Parkwood Baptist in Concord.
If you're in that area, concord, north Carolina, looking for a
solid church, parkwood is on thelist.
It's on the short list.
We've got a list of churches inthat area.
That is definitely on the shortlist.
So next up, let's see.
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This is just encouraging.
This is from a guy named Dustinstarts off my name is Dustin.
I won't say his last name.
Uh, he's from uh, we'll justsay Alabama.
We'll say where.
I said my first time at SWO was2007, 2008 ish, for summer camp
with my youth group.
Uh also attended a week of oldschool, which is old school was
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a program we did.
It was like a back countryprogram and he was here in oh
eight or oh nine.
He said um, and that was uh,like they would backpack for the
week.
It was a really cool program.
My wife and I attended marriageconference last year, first time
I'd been back to SWO since thatweek in oh nine.
It was an amazing weekend.
It truly has propelled myministry within my family, to my
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kids and wife, to another level.
We also plan on attending themarriage conference again this
year.
It falls pretty close to ouranniversary.
I cannot think of a better wayfor us to spend it.
My wife will also be attendingthe Women's Respond Retreat here
in a few weeks with a couple offriends.
So if you're not signed up forRespond, let me give you an
update.
Before I continue readingDustin's email, let me give you
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an update on what we've got interms of availability.
Okay, we've got about 50 spotsavailable.
We're approaching 400 attendeesor people registered right now,
so there's a few spots left.
Make sure you're on the listand you get signed up to come to
respond.
So Dustin's wife's going to beattending, so that's exciting.
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Anyway, mainly wanted to typethis email to say I'm highly
thankful for you, your staff andministry.
In my early adult life I wasnot on fire or have my hand on
the plow like I should have.
A couple years ago I discoveredthe NSR podcast and the SWO
teaching podcast, which is whereI learned about the adult
conferences, really found myselfwanting to go back.
So I told my wife about themarriage conference and since
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then she also has grown in herrelationship with the Lord.
We've both taken up differentopportunities to serve within
our local church the podcastsand sermons.
My weekly meeting with my smallgroup truly helps me to keep my
hand on the plow.
Me and my family are thankfulfor you and snowbird.
I pray you and your staff havea wonderful summer and more
lives are changed through yourministry.
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Thank you, dustin.
I I just wanted to read that tosay Dustin's a an NSR listener.
I want to say thank you, dustin.
This is encouraging.
Share this in our staff meetingLove getting emails like this.
Uh, sometimes get positiveemails, sometimes get negative
emails, but this was veryencouraging and so, thank you,
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brother.
Uh, thanks for being a blessingto us and that you've blessed a
lot of people here and lookforward to seeing you at the
marriage retreat or the marriageconference this fall, and I
look forward to seeing your wife, hopefully at respond.
I'll obviously be not really onhand.
Our, our, our gals will runthat, but, um, I will, um, have
an opportunity to interact withthe lady Some little and I are
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going to be sharing something atthe respond uh, respond retreat
, respond conference conference,so I'm looking forward to that.
Um, okay, two more.
So I'm going to share this oneby a brother named kyle.
Let me read this uh, this iscalled marriage conference, is
what he entitled this email.
And let me read that to you.
Hello, brody, hope you are well.
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Sir, my name is kyle and I'm afriend of.
I'm not going to say who.
Uh, I did not ask Kyle if Icould share this, but I thought
it would be.
Kyle brings up a question inhis email that I like to.
When I can kill two birds withone stone and I can respond to
an email on an NSR episode, Ithink it can be helpful.
I think it'd be helpful for theperson asking the question, but
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also for our listeners ingeneral.
I had the pleasure of meetingyou, talking with you at be
strong in the fall of 2024.
I really appreciated howaccessible you and the rest of
your staff were.
Such great blessing of a trip.
Easy to see why your family andSWO means so much to uh.
You name some other folks.
I've been trying to get backever since.
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I have a question.
I'm hoping you can give me someclarification and feedback.
I've invited my bride of 13years to join me at the marriage
conference because I want herto experience what I just
described.
Biblical manhood, womanhood andChrist-centered marriage are
really important to us.
Naturally, she wanted to get onthe SWO site and look into the
conference.
When I started talking about it, she's troubled that you guys
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don't list any women as sessionteachers or otherwise for the
conference.
She says how can they expect meto learn about biblical
marriage If only men areteaching the sessions?
Are we overlooking something orwould you advise me to how, or
how would you advise me toanswer at this point?
I'd be truly grateful for anyinformation or advice you
provide, looking forward toworship with you and your guys
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at you and your staff again soon.
Great questions.
So I just want to, I want tounpack this and I'll.
I will respond to Kylepersonally as well, but I'm not
reading that response here, butI do want to share a couple of
thoughts.
So he says that his wife wasconcerned.
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Uh, she's truly troubled thatwe don't list any women as
session teachers otherwise forthe conference.
And so it's.
It's a great question, um, andthis is one of those questions
that, if it, when it's askedwith an open heart and mind,
like, like, sincerely, um, thenthen it creates wonderful
opportunity to share ourthoughts, our position from
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Scripture.
Sometimes people ask a questionlike this and they're trying to
get like a gotcha moment, and Iknow that Kyle is not doing
that, but I'm grateful to beable to answer the question.
That's genuinely I'm.
I'm grateful to be able toanswer the question that's
genuinely, I think, being asked,but sometimes just, this is
more of a side note and, fyi,I've had people ask me a similar
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question where it becomesobvious they're just trying to.
You know, they just want tohave a gotcha moment and try to
say, um, try to put words inyour mouth, or so I'm rambling,
let me.
Let me answer the question wereserve.
We believe that, biblically,there are certain
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responsibilities in the home andin the church that God has
designated for men to do.
One of those is the preachingand teaching of the word to men.
Now, we do think that there's aplace for women to teach and
instruct women.
We also believe that there's.
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Now I'm going to give you some.
There's some nuance to this.
I'm going to answer thisquestion in layers and say that
even within our team here, wedon't all agree exactly how this
should play out and what itlooks like.
What we do all agree on is thatpreaching the word of God in a
room where there are men andwomen, that that is a job, a
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task and a calling that God hasdesignated for men.
And so the fact that we aretalking about a conference where
there's sermons preached andmen are in the room, then yes,
we're going to have men do thosesermons are in the room, then
yes, we're going to have men dothose sermons.
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Now, that being said, at ourmarriage conferences we often
have um panel discussions, q anda men and women.
We also sometimes divide menand women where there's a
breakout session for men and abreakout session for the women
that's led by women.
At our respond women'sconference we have women that do
the teaching at that conference.
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They do the main sessions.
So we do have women teach andand I believe now I might be
wrong, but I believe we havewomen listed.
I know at least my wife islisted on the website as someone
who teaches in in uh women'sconference sessions.
But, um, but anyway.
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So we don't have women teach orpreach the word of God when
there are men sitting in theroom.
And we take that from where?
Where we get that is from uh.
In the scripture in firstTimothy, chapter two, first 12,.
I want to read this in a fewdifferent translations.
In the New Living Translationit says I do not let women teach
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men or have authority over them.
Let them listen quietly.
So in reference to the worshipservice and the preaching of the
sermon, that's what we'retalking about.
In the NIV.
It says I do not permit a womanto teach or to assume authority
over a man.
She must be quiet, which thatsounds very aggressive.
But again, when we're, whenwe're reading a couple of things
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, when you're reading scripture,we don't ever want to try to
make it sound softer or harderthan it is.
We just want to say what itsays, and that's what it says,
um, but also understand that thelanguage that this was
translated out of, um, thephraseology can can be different
.
You know, like when Jesusrefers to his mother as woman
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from the cross.
That sounds very abrasive, butit's not, and so there's some
light, there's a little bit oflanguage, not barrier, but like
a context that's important tounderstand.
Esv says 1 Timothy 2.12, I donot permit a woman to teach or
exercise authority over a man,rather she's to remain quiet.
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In those passages is that inthe worship service, a woman is
to not hold a position ofpreaching or teaching.
1 Corinthians 14.34 says itthis way, and this is in the New
International Version, the NIVwomen should remain silent in
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the churches.
They are not allowed to speak,but must be in submission, as
the law says.
And now what some people willdo is they'll take um first the
first Corinthians passage andthey'll say well, that was
specific to something that wasgoing on in that church.
And I would just say that is aslippery slope to get on.
When you start that's what wecall over contextualizing
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something you try to say well,there are things that that uh
applied to those people in thatchurch or in that era that don't
apply to us.
Sometimes, that's true, but wegot to be careful with that, and
I'll explain why in a minute.
First Corinthians 14 and verse34, the women should keep silent
in the churches, for they arenot for for they are not
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permitted to speak, but shouldbe in submission, as the law
also says.
So reading those verses 1Timothy 2.12, 1 Corinthians
14.34, we have biblical teachingthat is clear that in a mixed
worship service that women arenot to preach or teach.
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Now are there times where wewant to contextualize something
and say, well, that matteredthere, but it does, it doesn't
really apply to us.
Yeah, most of that's going tobe more old Testament.
There's some new Testamentstuff.
Um, you know, uh, firstCorinthians is is the book
that's just full of this type ofstuff where you go, okay, what
was it, what, how, what havethis was applied to that church
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but not to us.
Now, and there are some thingsin there.
Um, you know, one Paul talksabout food sacrifice to idols
and he gives some instruction onthat.
Well, it's just not somethingthat contextually we're going to
face.
We just go to the grocery storeand buy food.
So there are times wherethere's a context there, that
sort of changes in our context.
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But when it comes to thebiblical instruction on pastoral
ministry, of preaching,teaching, being elders and
overseers, the scripture isclear in the pastoral epistles
of Timothy and Titus and also inpassages in first Corinthians
that the Lord reserves that fora man.
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Now one more thought on that,because somebody might say well,
that's just for those people,that's just for again, that's
just the context of those people.
But the scripture also teacheswhere that comes from is in the
order of creation.
It's in the creation order.
It goes back to um, when, whenthe Lord put Adam and Eve in the
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garden and gave instruction,adam was to lead, he was to be
the head of his household, andwhen he fail, when he failed to
do that, his authority was theword that's often used is
usurped and Eve took authorityover the man, and so the
creation, the serpent, tookauthority over the woman, who
took authority over the man.
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And so you have this invertedorder.
It's completely flipped upsidedown from how God designed it
and instructed for it to work.
So when we talk about the orderof the church, the scripture
will point it back to the orderof creation, and so this goes
back before the time of theCorinthians or Paul and Timothy.
This goes back to the beginningof time.
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This is God's order, so wedon't mess with that, we don't
jack around with God's order.
We do have opportunities forwomen to teach and to teach
other women and to teach youngwomen, and we've even had
situations where women sharedwith teenagers.
There have been a fewsituations through the years
where we've had a woman share athought would be Nikki Smith,
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who runs our element program, isoften teaching and instruct,
and instructing, um, the elementstudents.
Uh, some of those students areboys.
Like when I say boys, they're,they're not adults, they're 16,
17 year old boys.
So, um, there's that.
Now the question.
Then, um, from Kyle.
She says how can they expect meto learn about biblical
marriage if only men areteaching the sessions?
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I would say I want to be veryrespectful, I'm not being
sarcastic, I don't want to comeacross as sharp, but the
question of learning aboutbiblical marriage should not
matter who's teaching it.
What we learn and teach aboutbiblical marriage comes from the
word of God.
So it, if I'm hearing abiblical truth taught, it
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shouldn't matter who's teachingit.
If it's a biblical truth.
The way that I learn aboutbiblical marriage is from the
content of what's being taught.
Biblical marriage is from thecontent of what's being taught.
And so, to answer this sister'squestion, how can they expect
me to learn about biblicalmarriage?
Well, because we're going toteach the Bible, we're going to
say here's what scriptureteaches and here's the
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application, and there are goingto be women speaking into it in
different capacities atdifferent times.
And then also, I wouldencourage her to come to our
respond um women's conference.
I think you know that's goingto be that's conference led by
women for women.
Um, I do uh speak on Sundaymorning at the respond
conference.
I've never asked to do that.
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Our women have asked me to dothat and each year I revisit and
say y'all sure you want, do youwant me to do this?
Yeah, we want you to do it.
So Sunday morning session, Istep in, preach a message and
then step right out.
Um, but hopefully that answersthose questions.
Thank you, kyle, for theencouragement, for what you
shared and for that question isreally helpful.
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Um, we're going to.
We're going to stop there.
I do have.
Uh, there's a listener namedKatie and Katie uh has asked
about a family dynamic situation.
Um, she is married and herhusband is uh having some
struggle with her, her family.
Uh, there's some, there's sometension there and we can a lot
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of us can relate to that andwe're going to be tackling that.
But that's going to be its ownepisode.
It's going to be a biggerepisode and I'm probably going
to bring someone in, a couple offolks in, to make that more of
a dialogue episode.
So, um, be answering thatquestion soon.
So, hopefully, uh, those emailswe responded to, some fun uh,
and some that are hopefullypractical and helpful for you.
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All right, that's it.
So what I want to do is wrapthis up by, oh, one more thing
that I did want to say.
So many of you have prayed formy granddaughter, alma.
Her name is Alma.
It's funny, a lot of peoplecall her Alma.
I've had so many people sayhow's Alma?
So her name is Alma and I don'treally care if you call her
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Alma.
That's fine.
The fact that you care meansthe world to me and to our
family.
So, anyway, just saying, I knowwhen I call somebody the wrong
name, I like to be told hey,that's not what it is, but her
name's Alma doesn't reallymatter to me, cause I call her
punky and punky is doing great.
She really is doing good.
She has, um, she has struggledwith some illness.
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That's been, uh, man, she had afever 105 and just where
they're serving there is not ahospital and there's not a
hospital.
It's not like they can evenjump in a plane and fly to a
good hospital.
It's, it's.
It's very difficult.
So pray for Greg and Kilby asthey navigate, raising a family
in a very difficult place, um,and with no real good hospital.
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So uh, but, but Alma's doinggood, punky's doing great
FaceTime with her yesterday,sweetest little thing, and uh,
she calls me boo, I her boo,punky and boo.
We thought about making a bandor maybe like a club, maybe
t-shirt tattoo, I don't know,punky and boo.
But anyway, punky is doingawesome, she's the sweetest
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thing and I just love it that somany people prayed for her.
So thank y'all, for that meansthe world, literally means the
world to my family, to the SWOfamily.
So thank y'all.
Okay, that's it for this week.
I'm just going to dip out and Iwant you to enjoy the message
that I shared.
Message, not really message,not like a sermon, just the
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charge.
The word of.
It's a word of put your hand tothe plow, let's get after it.
In the Christian life, we allhave a job to do and we need to
have a strategy, tactics, weneed to know the why, we need to
know the how.
All of that matters.
Don't just listen, don't bejust lumbering through your
Christian life as a consumerChristian, put your hand on the
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plow, put your pick up the trial.
You know the the story ofNehemiah, where they're working
building that wall.
They got one hand on the trial,one hand on the sword.
We are in hostile times becausewe live on planet Earth and
everybody that's a part of thebody of Christ needs to be on
task, on mission together.
So let's do it and hope youfind encouragement in the
message from, or the charge andchallenge to our staff from
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Staff Orientation Weekend.
The charge and challenge to ourstaff from staff orientation
weekend.
Um, and we're, uh, we're goingto have some, some stuff that
I'm excited to share with you.
Um, next week we're going tostart recording and video and
some episodes and we're going towe're going to start having
more of our content uh videoavailable and I'm excited about
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that.
So, books coming soon.
Uh, summer's coming soon, it'sspringtime, it's Turkey season,
it's mowing season.
I love cutting the grass.
It's just awesome and life isgood.
Thank y'all.
Thank you for um listening tothis thing every week.
I can't believe you do it, butyou do it, and there's thousands
of you that do it, and I can'tbelieve it, but I'm blessed by
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it and we as a ministry areblessed by your faithfulness.
So thank you and hope you enjoythe charge to the staff.
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Responding to those, an updatefrom this past weekend uh, two
weekends ago, rather, we did our.
We had our staff orientationweekend and some updates on
what's going on here right nowat SWO and the the sort of, as
our energy and focus turnstowards the summer, what that
looks like.
And then an excitingannouncement that I'm looking
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forward to sharing with you onthis episode of no Sanity
Required, so welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Welcome to no Sanity Required from the Ministry of
Snowbird Wilderness Outfitters.
A podcast about the Bible,culture and stories from around
the globe.
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So this week is going to be a little bit shorter
episode.
Just want to give you a fewupdates and read some emails.
Update number one and this isan exciting announcement the no
Sanity Required book, which iscalled no Sanity Required the
Visionary Story of SnowbirdWilderness Outfit outfitters, is
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finally done.
It's complete Final edit isdone.
Um, so grateful to HarryMcSween and Susan Greenwood who
have worked with me to get thatcontent out.
Um, they've done a phenomenaljob of editing and helping me
kind of stay going in the rightdirection.
It's been a long process.
This is a book that a normalperson could have probably
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written in a couple of weeks andit's taken me a long time.
And, uh, but we're, we'realready.
We're excited about book two,which we'll uh, talk about.
Um, you know down the road, butbook two is going to be a no
sanity stories.
We're going to look atdifferent stories A lot of folks
that have been on the podcastand others that maybe you've
never met and we're going to seebiblical principles come
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through from from the lives ofpeople that have been impacted
by a snowbird wildernessoutfitters.
Looking forward to that nosanity stories That'll come out,
hopefully next year.
So, um, the book is done, otherthan, uh, amy Davis is
finishing up some of the designand graphic work.
Amy is phenomenal.
Most of what through the years,most of what you have seen.
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If you've been to an event atSWO, whether it's stage design,
the thing that I think of thatlooks so cool that she did last
year was the Gaga Pits.
If you've ever been to SWO youknow what a Gaga pit is.
It's a game that kids love toplay, a big, big round, um, it's
like a.
It's kind of like a Dodge, acontained Dodge ball game, and
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her graphic design on those isphenomenal.
Anyway, amy's my favoritedesigner, um, because she just
so much of the way SWO has done,the things we've put out
through the years, so much of ithas her thumbprint on it.
But anyway, she's doing thebook design.
I'm excited about that.
Harry has worked so hard overthe last couple months to get
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the book organized, because theway I wrote it and put it
together it wasn't realstreamlined.
It wasn't like a steady flow ofthought, it was kind of up and
down and all around.
And then Susan Greenwood, whohas been kind of the key editor,
the primary editor for the book, and actually helped me get
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thoughts on paper kind of helpedpoint me in the right direction
early on when we're trying toget traction with the book.
So, anyway, no sanity required.
The visionary story of SnowbirdWilderness Outfitters that's
coming, that's, that's going tobe, lord willing, ready to roll.
It goes to print in a week and,uh, it should take a month or
two to get it out and we'll haveit available, um, for you guys,
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and if you're coming to SWOthis summer, we'll have it
available this summer and then,um, we'll let you know how you
can get your copy once we havethe books in hand.
So, um, excited about that.
And the next thing just camethrough our orientation weekend.
The reason we do orientation isbecause years ago we realized
we do our staff selection in thewinter.
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So we're, we're telling peoplein January hey, you've made it,
you're on the team, after alengthy application and then
lengthy interview process.
We're very it's pretty intenseto apply to work here and then
to go through that process.
It's not casual.
There's a lot of work to bedone and in filling out an
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application and then, once youfill that application out, to
work on our summer staff,there's a pretty involved
interview process, not just asingle interview, but there's
going to be some conversationsand then and then a really big
interview with one of our umhiring team.
So anyway, that all goes on inJanuary.
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What I'm getting at, that allgoes in on in January and then
by the time staff training rollsaround it's mid May.
Well, I don't know, uh, if yourealize it, but four or five,
five months is a lot of time fora college-age student or a high
school-age student to changetheir mind, and it could be that
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they just kind of lose interestand they don't understand the
importance of sticking to yourcommitment.
Or it could be far less seriousthan that.
It could be.
Something comes up, a schoolinternship is all of a sudden
presented and it makes moresense to do that to get that
degree finished or whatever.
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Family dynamics, somethinghappens at home.
So we used to see a pretty highattrition rate from January to
May.
So we'd have, let's say we had100 people that we had nailed
down to be on the team inJanuary.
May rolls around and maybewe've only got 85 to 90.
And so you know, 10, 12, 15% isa huge drop-off.
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So initially we startedcorrecting that by over hiring.
So if we needed a hundred, we'dwe'd go with 110.
And then, sure enough, that bitus because the you know, there
was one year where we did 110and needed 95, let's say, and
nobody dropped.
Nobody dropped, and so we endedup with 15 more people than we
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needed, whatever it was thatyear, and so we had to do some
pruning and weeding out.
Anyway, why we do, the reason wedo the staff orientation
weekend is because it gives uh,our staff a spring weekend in
early April.
That uh, you know, if they, ifthey and now the selection may
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be late January, early February,so within a within eight weeks
of knowing that they've made theteam, they're going to show up
here for an orientation weekendand it just kind of gets them
excited about the summer.
It's a it's a really enjoyableweekend.
We uh we have a few sessionswhere we're we're teaching sort
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of philosophical stuff, why wedo things the way we do things.
We're challenging them, we're,we're giving them a word of
encouragement for how theyfinished their semester.
And then, when the stafforientation weekend is over
there, they're like five or sixweeks until they're going to be
back for staff training, whichis a two week process, a two
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week training.
So orientation kind of givesthem a little spring bump.
Um, it helps everybody to tomeet face to face and and uh,
it's a good weekend Starteddoing it several years ago quite
a while now, probably 15 yearsago and it's been real effective
.
We uh we didn't do it COVIDyear and we didn't do it the
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year following COVID and wethought about dropping it and
not doing it anymore.
But by popular demand, everyonejust loves it, so we've
continued to do it.
So we just came through that Ishared.
On Friday night of stafforientation weekend we walked
through the mission statementand the two verses Colossians 1,
28 and 29, that drive ourmission statement and we looked
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at those three principles thatyou hear me talk on here about
that.
We hold a high view of thesovereignty of God, we hold a
high view of Scripture and wehold a high view of the
responsibility of man and a lotof people will use that phrase,
responsibility of man.
That's where they'll use thephrase free will.
But we like to go a stepfurther.
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It's not just that you have thewill to choose this or that,
it's that you have aresponsibility before a
sovereign God to to be obedient,to be on mission to fulfill the
task of of building the churchand growing the kingdom.
So, um, we looked at thosethree things on Friday night and
how the mission statementdrives those.
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So what we're going to do iswe're going to um in in this
episode, we're going to includea link to that message so you
can jump over there when you'redone with this episode and
listen to the message that weshared on, uh, friday night of
staff orientation.
Help you kind of wrap your headaround the philosophy behind
what we do, and I think you'llenjoy it and get a lot out of it
.
And this is a challenge that isnot just for Snowbird
Wilderness, outfitters,employees or team members, it's
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for the church, it's for thebeliever, it's for Christ
followers.
And, matter of fact, I took themain outline of that and shared
in a Great Commission Sundaymessage at a church in
Jacksonville Florida last Sunday, at a church in Jacksonville
Florida last Sunday, justbecause I think it's such a
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clear blueprint for how we're toall live on mission.
So I'm going to share that withyou.
But before we get there, Iwanted to just tell you, coming
out of orientation weekend, andso I did that Friday night and
then on Saturday morning, um, wehad some meetings.
Um, john Rouleau gave a chargefrom Joshua three on leadership.
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Uh, saturday evening, zach umspoke to the staff.
That and that's as far as we go.
Sunday morning they eatbreakfast and they get on the
road.
So we had three sessions, butthen we had some meetings in
there and then, uh, just a lotof free time, rec time, some
small group, just just gettingto know one another.
So, anyway, it was a goodweekend, very productive, and so
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all of our staff.
You can be praying for them.
They'll be showing back up herearound May 11th, 12th, right
right around in that weekend,that second weekend of May to
start, on that Monday, ourtwo-week staff training.
Excited about that, okay, let'ssee what's next.
What did I want to do next?
I wanted to.
So we got the book talked about.
The book talked about stafforientation.
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I want to read some fun.
Where's this one?
There's one really fun book.
Okay, this is from a pastor,friend, student, pastor James
Mooney, in the Charlotte area,concord, north Carolina, to be
exact.
He said brother, I waslistening to the Rudolph episode
and filling up my truck at thegas station.
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The dude across from me justlooked at me like I was nuts for
listening to this podcastcranked up about the Olympic
bomber.
It was great, enjoyed this oneman.
So thanks, james.
That's a hilarious scene that Ican picture in my mind.
First off, you need to knowJames Mooney is about 6'8".
I think he's ginormous, he's abig man and so I'm just
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picturing I do this, y'all mightdo this.
You open your door and youleave whatever you're listening
to playing while you're pumpingyour gas, and so, yeah, uh
podcast about the olympic bomber.
I got a lot of funny um and andfun uh comments on that one, on
that episode and jb her momeven sent.
It was cool.
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Jb showed me this morning hermom sent a picture of uh jb.
You know we talked about therecorder playing the little
recorder in elementary schooland uh and and doing such a
terrible job of doing uh.
I was so bad at it.
But anyway, jb's mom sent apicture of hers.
That was fun.
So anyway, thanks for that,james Mooney.
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Look to see you soon at SWO.
Thanks for leading well thestudent ministry there at
Parkwood Baptist in Concord.
If you're in that area, concord, north Carolina, looking for a
solid church, parkwood is on thelist.
It's on the short list.
We've got a list of churches inthat area.
That is definitely on the shortlist.
So next up, let's see.
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This is just encouraging.
This is from a guy named Dustinstarts off my name is Dustin.
I won't say his last name.
Uh, he's from uh, we'll justsay Alabama.
We'll say where.
I said my first time at SWO was2007, 2008 ish, for summer camp
with my youth group.
Uh also attended a week of oldschool, which is old school was
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a program we did.
It was like a back countryprogram and he was here in oh
eight or oh nine.
He said um, and that was uh,like they would backpack for the
week.
It was a really cool program.
My wife and I attended marriageconference last year, first time
I'd been back to SWO since thatweek in oh nine.
It was an amazing weekend.
It truly has propelled myministry within my family, to my
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kids and wife, to another level.
We also plan on attending themarriage conference again this
year.
It falls pretty close to ouranniversary.
I cannot think of a better wayfor us to spend it.
My wife will also be attendingthe Women's Respond Retreat here
in a few weeks with a couple offriends.
So if you're not signed up forRespond, let me give you an
update.
Before I continue readingDustin's email, let me give you
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an update on what we've got interms of availability.
Okay, we've got about 50 spotsavailable.
We're approaching 400 attendeesor people registered right now,
so there's a few spots left.
Make sure you're on the listand you get signed up to come to
respond.
So Dustin's wife's going to beattending, so that's exciting.
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Anyway, mainly wanted to typethis email to say I'm highly
thankful for you, your staff andministry.
In my early adult life I wasnot on fire or have my hand on
the plow like I should have.
A couple years ago I discoveredthe NSR podcast and the SWO
teaching podcast, which is whereI learned about the adult
conferences, really found myselfwanting to go back.
So I told my wife about themarriage conference and since
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then she also has grown in herrelationship with the Lord.
We've both taken up differentopportunities to serve within
our local church the podcastsand sermons.
My weekly meeting with my smallgroup truly helps me to keep my
hand on the plow.
Me and my family are thankfulfor you and snowbird.
I pray you and your staff havea wonderful summer and more
lives are changed through yourministry.
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Thank you, dustin.
I I just wanted to read that tosay Dustin's a an NSR listener.
I want to say thank you, dustin.
This is encouraging.
Share this in our staff meetingLove getting emails like this.
Uh, sometimes get positiveemails, sometimes get negative
emails, but this was veryencouraging and so, thank you,
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brother.
Uh, thanks for being a blessingto us and that you've blessed a
lot of people here and lookforward to seeing you at the
marriage retreat or the marriageconference this fall, and I
look forward to seeing your wife, hopefully at respond.
I'll obviously be not really onhand.
Our, our, our gals will runthat, but, um, I will, um, have
an opportunity to interact withthe lady Some little and I are
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going to be sharing something atthe respond uh, respond retreat
, respond conference conference,so I'm looking forward to that.
Um, okay, two more.
So I'm going to share this oneby a brother named kyle.
Let me read this uh, this iscalled marriage conference, is
what he entitled this email.
And let me read that to you.
Hello, brody, hope you are well.
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Sir, my name is kyle and I'm afriend of.
I'm not going to say who.
Uh, I did not ask Kyle if Icould share this, but I thought
it would be.
Kyle brings up a question inhis email that I like to.
When I can kill two birds withone stone and I can respond to
an email on an NSR episode, Ithink it can be helpful.
I think it'd be helpful for theperson asking the question, but
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also for our listeners ingeneral.
I had the pleasure of meetingyou, talking with you at be
strong in the fall of 2024.
I really appreciated howaccessible you and the rest of
your staff were.
Such great blessing of a trip.
Easy to see why your family andSWO means so much to uh.
You name some other folks.
I've been trying to get backever since.
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I have a question.
I'm hoping you can give me someclarification and feedback.
I've invited my bride of 13years to join me at the marriage
conference because I want herto experience what I just
described.
Biblical manhood, womanhood andChrist-centered marriage are
really important to us.
Naturally, she wanted to get onthe SWO site and look into the
conference.
When I started talking about it, she's troubled that you guys
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don't list any women as sessionteachers or otherwise for the
conference.
She says how can they expect meto learn about biblical
marriage If only men areteaching the sessions?
Are we overlooking something orwould you advise me to how, or
how would you advise me toanswer at this point?
I'd be truly grateful for anyinformation or advice you
provide, looking forward toworship with you and your guys
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at you and your staff again soon.
Great questions.
So I just want to, I want tounpack this and I'll.
I will respond to Kylepersonally as well, but I'm not
reading that response here, butI do want to share a couple of
thoughts.
So he says that his wife wasconcerned.
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Uh, she's truly troubled thatwe don't list any women as
session teachers otherwise forthe conference.
And so it's.
It's a great question, um, andthis is one of those questions
that, if it, when it's askedwith an open heart and mind,
like, like, sincerely, um, thenthen it creates wonderful
opportunity to share ourthoughts, our position from
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Scripture.
Sometimes people ask a questionlike this and they're trying to
get like a gotcha moment, and Iknow that Kyle is not doing
that, but I'm grateful to beable to answer the question.
That's genuinely I'm.
I'm grateful to be able toanswer the question that's
genuinely, I think, being asked,but sometimes just, this is
more of a side note and, fyi,I've had people ask me a similar
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question where it becomesobvious they're just trying to.
You know, they just want tohave a gotcha moment and try to
say, um, try to put words inyour mouth, or so I'm rambling,
let me.
Let me answer the question wereserve.
We believe that, biblically,there are certain
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responsibilities in the home andin the church that God has
designated for men to do.
One of those is the preachingand teaching of the word to men.
Now, we do think that there's aplace for women to teach and
instruct women.
We also believe that there's.
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Now I'm going to give you some.
There's some nuance to this.
I'm going to answer thisquestion in layers and say that
even within our team here, wedon't all agree exactly how this
should play out and what itlooks like.
What we do all agree on is thatpreaching the word of God in a
room where there are men andwomen, that that is a job, a
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task and a calling that God hasdesignated for men.
And so the fact that we aretalking about a conference where
there's sermons preached andmen are in the room, then yes,
we're going to have men do thosesermons are in the room, then
yes, we're going to have men dothose sermons.
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Now, that being said, at ourmarriage conferences we often
have um panel discussions, q anda men and women.
We also sometimes divide menand women where there's a
breakout session for men and abreakout session for the women
that's led by women.
At our respond women'sconference we have women that do
the teaching at that conference.
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They do the main sessions.
So we do have women teach andand I believe now I might be
wrong, but I believe we havewomen listed.
I know at least my wife islisted on the website as someone
who teaches in in uh women'sconference sessions.
But, um, but anyway.
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So we don't have women teach orpreach the word of God when
there are men sitting in theroom.
And we take that from where?
Where we get that is from uh.
In the scripture in firstTimothy, chapter two, first 12,.
I want to read this in a fewdifferent translations.
In the New Living Translationit says I do not let women teach
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men or have authority over them.
Let them listen quietly.
So in reference to the worshipservice and the preaching of the
sermon, that's what we'retalking about.
In the NIV.
It says I do not permit a womanto teach or to assume authority
over a man.
She must be quiet, which thatsounds very aggressive.
But again, when we're, whenwe're reading a couple of things
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, when you're reading scripture,we don't ever want to try to
make it sound softer or harderthan it is.
We just want to say what itsays, and that's what it says,
um, but also understand that thelanguage that this was
translated out of, um, thephraseology can can be different
.
You know, like when Jesusrefers to his mother as woman
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from the cross.
That sounds very abrasive, butit's not, and so there's some
light, there's a little bit oflanguage, not barrier, but like
a context that's important tounderstand.
Esv says 1 Timothy 2.12, I donot permit a woman to teach or
exercise authority over a man,rather she's to remain quiet.
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In those passages is that inthe worship service, a woman is
to not hold a position ofpreaching or teaching.
1 Corinthians 14.34 says itthis way, and this is in the New
International Version, the NIVwomen should remain silent in
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the churches.
They are not allowed to speak,but must be in submission, as
the law says.
And now what some people willdo is they'll take um first the
first Corinthians passage andthey'll say well, that was
specific to something that wasgoing on in that church.
And I would just say that is aslippery slope to get on.
When you start that's what wecall over contextualizing
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something you try to say well,there are things that that uh
applied to those people in thatchurch or in that era that don't
apply to us.
Sometimes, that's true, but wegot to be careful with that, and
I'll explain why in a minute.
First Corinthians 14 and verse34, the women should keep silent
in the churches, for they arenot for for they are not
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permitted to speak, but shouldbe in submission, as the law
also says.
So reading those verses 1Timothy 2.12, 1 Corinthians
14.34, we have biblical teachingthat is clear that in a mixed
worship service that women arenot to preach or teach.
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Now are there times where wewant to contextualize something
and say, well, that matteredthere, but it does, it doesn't
really apply to us.
Yeah, most of that's going tobe more old Testament.
There's some new Testamentstuff.
Um, you know, uh, firstCorinthians is is the book
that's just full of this type ofstuff where you go, okay, what
was it, what, how, what havethis was applied to that church
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but not to us.
Now, and there are some thingsin there.
Um, you know, one Paul talksabout food sacrifice to idols
and he gives some instruction onthat.
Well, it's just not somethingthat contextually we're going to
face.
We just go to the grocery storeand buy food.
So there are times wherethere's a context there, that
sort of changes in our context.
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But when it comes to thebiblical instruction on pastoral
ministry, of preaching,teaching, being elders and
overseers, the scripture isclear in the pastoral epistles
of Timothy and Titus and also inpassages in first Corinthians
that the Lord reserves that fora man.
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Now one more thought on that,because somebody might say well,
that's just for those people,that's just for again, that's
just the context of those people.
But the scripture also teacheswhere that comes from is in the
order of creation.
It's in the creation order.
It goes back to um, when, whenthe Lord put Adam and Eve in the
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garden and gave instruction,adam was to lead, he was to be
the head of his household, andwhen he fail, when he failed to
do that, his authority was theword that's often used is
usurped and Eve took authorityover the man, and so the
creation, the serpent, tookauthority over the woman, who
took authority over the man.
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And so you have this invertedorder.
It's completely flipped upsidedown from how God designed it
and instructed for it to work.
So when we talk about the orderof the church, the scripture
will point it back to the orderof creation, and so this goes
back before the time of theCorinthians or Paul and Timothy.
This goes back to the beginningof time.
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This is God's order, so wedon't mess with that, we don't
jack around with God's order.
We do have opportunities forwomen to teach and to teach
other women and to teach youngwomen, and we've even had
situations where women sharedwith teenagers.
There have been a fewsituations through the years
where we've had a woman share athought would be Nikki Smith,
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who runs our element program, isoften teaching and instruct,
and instructing, um, the elementstudents.
Uh, some of those students areboys.
Like when I say boys, they're,they're not adults, they're 16,
17 year old boys.
So, um, there's that.
Now the question.
Then, um, from Kyle.
She says how can they expect meto learn about biblical
marriage if only men areteaching the sessions?
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I would say I want to be veryrespectful, I'm not being
sarcastic, I don't want to comeacross as sharp, but the
question of learning aboutbiblical marriage should not
matter who's teaching it.
What we learn and teach aboutbiblical marriage comes from the
word of God.
So it, if I'm hearing abiblical truth taught, it
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shouldn't matter who's teachingit.
If it's a biblical truth.
The way that I learn aboutbiblical marriage is from the
content of what's being taught.
Biblical marriage is from thecontent of what's being taught.
And so, to answer this sister'squestion, how can they expect
me to learn about biblicalmarriage?
Well, because we're going toteach the Bible, we're going to
say here's what scriptureteaches and here's the
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application, and there are goingto be women speaking into it in
different capacities atdifferent times.
And then also, I wouldencourage her to come to our
respond um women's conference.
I think you know that's goingto be that's conference led by
women for women.
Um, I do uh speak on Sundaymorning at the respond
conference.
I've never asked to do that.
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Our women have asked me to dothat and each year I revisit and
say y'all sure you want, do youwant me to do this?
Yeah, we want you to do it.
So Sunday morning session, Istep in, preach a message and
then step right out.
Um, but hopefully that answersthose questions.
Thank you, kyle, for theencouragement, for what you
shared and for that question isreally helpful.
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Um, we're going to.
We're going to stop there.
I do have.
Uh, there's a listener namedKatie and Katie uh has asked
about a family dynamic situation.
Um, she is married and herhusband is uh having some
struggle with her, her family.
Uh, there's some, there's sometension there and we can a lot
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of us can relate to that andwe're going to be tackling that.
But that's going to be its ownepisode.
It's going to be a biggerepisode and I'm probably going
to bring someone in, a couple offolks in, to make that more of
a dialogue episode.
So, um, be answering thatquestion soon.
So, hopefully, uh, those emailswe responded to, some fun uh,
and some that are hopefullypractical and helpful for you.
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All right, that's it.
So what I want to do is wrapthis up by, oh, one more thing
that I did want to say.
So many of you have prayed formy granddaughter, alma.
Her name is Alma.
It's funny, a lot of peoplecall her Alma.
I've had so many people sayhow's Alma?
So her name is Alma and I don'treally care if you call her
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Alma.
That's fine.
The fact that you care meansthe world to me and to our
family.
So, anyway, just saying, I knowwhen I call somebody the wrong
name, I like to be told hey,that's not what it is, but her
name's Alma doesn't reallymatter to me, cause I call her
punky and punky is doing great.
She really is doing good.
She has, um, she has struggledwith some illness.
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That's been, uh, man, she had afever 105 and just where
they're serving there is not ahospital and there's not a
hospital.
It's not like they can evenjump in a plane and fly to a
good hospital.
It's, it's.
It's very difficult.
So pray for Greg and Kilby asthey navigate, raising a family
in a very difficult place, um,and with no real good hospital.
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So uh, but, but Alma's doinggood, punky's doing great
FaceTime with her yesterday,sweetest little thing, and uh,
she calls me boo, I her boo,punky and boo.
We thought about making a bandor maybe like a club, maybe
t-shirt tattoo, I don't know,punky and boo.
But anyway, punky is doingawesome, she's the sweetest
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thing and I just love it that somany people prayed for her.
So thank y'all, for that meansthe world, literally means the
world to my family, to the SWOfamily.
So thank y'all.
Okay, that's it for this week.
I'm just going to dip out and Iwant you to enjoy the message
that I shared.
Message, not really message,not like a sermon, just the
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charge.
The word of.
It's a word of put your hand tothe plow, let's get after it.
In the Christian life, we allhave a job to do and we need to
have a strategy, tactics, weneed to know the why, we need to
know the how.
All of that matters.
Don't just listen, don't bejust lumbering through your
Christian life as a consumerChristian, put your hand on the
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plow, put your pick up the trial.
You know the the story ofNehemiah, where they're working
building that wall.
They got one hand on the trial,one hand on the sword.
We are in hostile times becausewe live on planet Earth and
everybody that's a part of thebody of Christ needs to be on
task, on mission together.
So let's do it and hope youfind encouragement in the
message from, or the charge andchallenge to our staff from
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Staff Orientation Weekend.
The charge and challenge to ourstaff from staff orientation
weekend.
Um, and we're, uh, we're goingto have some, some stuff that
I'm excited to share with you.
Um, next week we're going tostart recording and video and
some episodes and we're going towe're going to start having
more of our content uh videoavailable and I'm excited about
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that.
So, books coming soon.
Uh, summer's coming soon, it'sspringtime, it's Turkey season,
it's mowing season.
I love cutting the grass.
It's just awesome and life isgood.
Thank y'all.
Thank you for um listening tothis thing every week.
I can't believe you do it, butyou do it, and there's thousands
of you that do it, and I can'tbelieve it, but I'm blessed by
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it and we as a ministry areblessed by your faithfulness.
So thank you and hope you enjoythe charge to the staff.
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