November 11, 2024 • 58 mins
Tune in as Brody sits down with Snowbird staff members Isa and JB! Get a behind-the-scenes look at their stories—how they got involved with SWO and what they’re doing now. They share powerful stories of campers coming to faith, fun moments from camp, and talk about the importance of staying faithful and obedient, even when we don’t see immediate results.
Isa and JB also answer some of your questions on how to live out faithfulness in school, sports, and camp ministry. Don't miss this inspiring and fun conversation!
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to no Sanity Required from the Ministry of
Snowbird Wilderness Outfitters.
A podcast about the Bible,culture and stories from around
the globe.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Y'all rolling, okay, and we're at the Supercoop and
we're getting ready to get a newscreen.
How big is that screen going tobe, isa?
Do you know?
One of y'all know I'm unaware,it's the same size, but it's an
led screen.
So this is going to be the newfor now.
For the foreseeable future,this is where we're going to be
recording nsr and, uh.
(00:43):
We got a lot of good feedbackon the video episodes that we
did, so we need some moreequipment.
I need a headset so I don'thave to stand here and hold this
microphone, so hopefully that'snot too distracting.
Yeah, it looks less professionalbut plenty functional.
So we'd love to hear feedbackfrom NSR listeners, the NSR
(01:05):
community, what y'all thinkabout being able to actually
view this so video to go alongwith the episodes, the feedback
on the interview that Joy Bethdid, that JB did with Little,
and I was really good you werethere for that, weren't you Isa?
No, I wasn't.
You weren't there.
Sam was there.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Sam and Austin.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And Austin was there Really good feedback on that.
So, um, yeah, we're gonna,we're gonna do it, uh, today,
and probably at least some ofthe episodes going forward, when
we get that new led screen,then we'll be able to logo that.
We'll probably, uh, we'llprobably use that screen in
these episodes to promote stuffthat's going on at SWO, whether
(01:43):
it's Winter SWO or I was aboutto say Winter Extreme, your name
.
Well, we promote that's anevent in Gatlinburg that we
promote SWO at and I've spokenat it before.
So, anyway, winter SWO andSummer Camp which, by the way,
(02:04):
people that talk about how goodour social media stuff is, which
I get a ton of feedback on nsrand on social media, this, this
gal right here, this team righthere they're phenomenal.
Um, you're not seeing the guysthat aren't on camera right now,
but we've got an incredibleteam right now.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
We switched the camera.
We're like Chris Sam Andrew.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But Issa does the majority of our social media
stuff and that was so coolyesterday for next summer.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yes, a little sneak peek yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, did you get a lot of comments and conversation
.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, a few people texted and they're like that's
exciting yeah, the colors aregreat.
I think it's different yeah,we've done.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We've done narrative type stuff for the last three
summers.
We did david, joseph, joseph,and then stuff in the gospels
life of christ.
I don, what did we do?
Were any of y'all here?
What?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
was it.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh, the attributes of God.
That's right.
That was in this building.
What was the 2020 first year?
The sovereignty, okay, yes,yeah.
So we're kind of back to thattype of material, which I'm
excited about.
I think it's easier to teachnarratives with students.
(03:28):
It's a little bit harder to dodoctrinal stuff.
I've been really spending a lotof time in that Romans 8
passage.
It's going to be a littleharder for the teaching team.
I think it'll be good andpractical and helpful, but it is
going to be a little bittougher, but I'm excited about
it.
I think it is going to be alittle bit tougher, but I'm
excited about it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
People, I think people are going to love it so
it's romans 8 is like one of myfavorite, like go-to passages,
especially for likeencouragement or like I'm short
on time in the morning.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I'm like romans 8 or 12 yeah, romans 12.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So good for christian living.
Like how you're going to cometo work, what kind of person
you're going to be when you getto work, how you're going to
interact with people.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I think you prayed that this morning.
I did, you did.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Mm-hmm at 8 o'clock.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Prefer one another.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Mm-hmm.
Outdo one another and show anhonor.
Yeah, be fervent in zeal.
Hate what is evil.
Hold fast to what is good.
Hold fast to what is good.
Outdo one another in showinghonor, Brotherly affection.
I love that.
Yeah, I think my prayer thismorning was that we would love
each other well today as a team.
So it is unique what we havehere, and I don't know how many
(04:35):
people that listen will know whoy'all are.
So, jb, quick introduction Justname where you're from
background, swell background.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I'm JB.
Real name, joy Beth or JoyElizabeth JB for short.
I'm from Marietta, georgia, andI started coming to camp when I
was in sixth grade with myyouth pastor.
I came with like a winter swelland technically I was like in
fifth grade so I thought I wasreally cool that I got to come
(05:06):
and then we got a new youthpastor around like my junior
year so we unfortunatelyswitched to a different camp, um
, and then finished out highschool.
I knew in college that I wantedto like help out and serve my
summer at a camp so I applied tolike wind shape, central kid
snowbird and um was just kind ofpraying through that.
And then, as soon as I got thecall and serve my summer at a
camp, so I applied to likeWindshape Centric Kid Snowbird
and was just kind of prayingthrough that.
(05:28):
And then as soon as I got thecall that I got accepted, it was
just kind of like, oh, I'mgoing to Snowbird, really cool,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And from there you rolled straight into.
You did an intern year.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, so my first summer was summer of 21.
And then straight after that Idid institute interning and then
did 22.
Then I had to go back to schooland finish up some loosens, did
my junior and senior year incollege at Carson Newman, and
then now I came back this pastsummer worked with element.
(05:59):
That was awesome, and then nowI'm um in media department, do
NSR and stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yes, joy Beth is.
These ladies are probably well,not probably.
They are the two people that Iwork closest with on the NSR
content, even more so than ourteaching staff, even more so
than John Rouleau, I would sayJoy Beth.
A lot of y'all are familiarwith the transition.
(06:26):
You know about the transitionfrom Maddie and Joy Beth taking
over that job.
So now you get to meet Joy Beth, actually meet her JB JB around
here.
She's cool.
I'm so glad you're here.
Jb is real close friends withone of my daughters lately.
So we're going to do an episodeon Element soon.
(06:47):
We've thrown the idea aroundand so we want to do an episode
kind of unpacking what Elementis, what that program is.
It's our high school program,discipleship program.
So awesome, issa.
Hey First time you came wascollege retreat college retreat,
uh, 2022, yeah, um.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I'd never been to camp till I stepped foot, like
that afternoon when we didcheck-in, and it was my first
time like leaving florida andcoming this far north.
I think the furthest is Vidalia, georgia.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Really, because you have family there.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, I have family there.
I came up with some friendsthat started going to my home
church and they had like a Bibleministry and they're like we're
going up to the college retreatyou should come with and I said
that sounds exciting.
They showed me the promo videoand I was like dang, that is so
cool.
And the promo video.
And I was like dang, that is socool.
(07:47):
And I said sign me up, here'smy money.
And I came and instantlysetting foot on campus, you can
just feel there's somethingdifferent about being here.
It feels good to be here.
And we sat over there, thosechairs, and like the skit that
weekend and the music and theteaching, I I was just like
blown away.
And then they were talkingabout hey, we have like our
(08:09):
recruiting team out in the backby the snack shack.
Go talk to them if you'reinterested in working on staff.
And I said you know what.
I'm going to stay back and go tothe panel that they had and
listen in and see what they'reabout a little bit more.
And then one of those nights Iwent over there and I talked to
Maddie who used to do the NSRediting, and I said I want to
(08:33):
work here, but like I'm not likejust saying that to throw that
around, like I want to work here, and she said okay, have you
started the application?
Now, this is my first day here.
She said okay, have you startedthe application?
Now, this is my first day here.
She said okay, well, we can doan in-person interview if you're
free this weekend.
I said I'm free, just let meknow.
(08:57):
I got her number and she textedme and, funny enough, I had my
interview in the media officewhere I work now and she
interviewed me that weekend andI had never looked at the
application on the website oranything.
She just started asking me allthese questions and I was like,
ok, we're, we're diving in, I'msharing my testimony, we're
talking about the virgin birth.
You know, it was crazy likeright from the start, and I
(09:19):
remember leaving the mediaoffice and feeling like, wow,
that's exciting.
I went home which home is PlantCity Florida for me and I
applied, submitted myapplication and I came and
worked that summer and Itransitioned into the Institute
that after that first summer of22.
(09:41):
And then I stayed.
I've been here ever since Then.
I transitioned into FT3position with media after my
first intern year and now I'm inmy second year of that and I
love it here.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Uh, one of the things we talked about just before we
dive into the, the talkingpoints um, there's uh going
forward, there's going to bey'all going to see more and more
of these two, partly because,um, we, we want the girls and
ladies that come to SWO to feelconnected with the team that
(10:17):
they hear from and see from thestage and on social media.
Um, and so isa is is steppinginto an even more integral,
vital role, more involved rolewith the production team, which
is uh run by john rouleau.
Um, and those of you that havebeen at swo over the last year,
(10:38):
you've, you've seen they shouldhave seen you already um, girls
night on wednesday nights, youkind of ran.
That didn't you?
I did, yeah, so a lot of peopleare going to be familiar with
isa and um, but, jb, also, we'regoing to start pulling these
girls into a more um visiblerole, and I think it's cool to
(10:58):
have a couple ladies in thatrole.
But also there's a hugegeneration gap.
They're the age of my daughtersand so, you know, I, I don't, I
don't feel like an old manbecause I live in a world of
young people.
So I really, I really don'tfeel that way.
Um, you know when you spend.
When you spend 90 of your timewith people a third your age, um
(11:20):
, it, you know, it's, it'sreally cool, I mean it.
It kind of keeps you thinkingmore along those lines.
But at the same time, I wantstudents to feel connected, um
to what we're doing and and Ilove the idea of a
multi-generational approach, um,and just some diversity in in
terms of gender and age.
So we're hoping to broaden, umthe nsr impact.
(11:43):
These gals won't be on everysingle episode, but you're gonna
see a lot of them and if youcome to swole, you're really
going to see a lot of them.
So, um, asa, I at the ball game.
Would you please tell folks atthe ball game the other night.
We're in middle schoolbasketball game.
He's in our sitting togethersit with my family, and I said
if you could have your dream job, like I think, think I don't
(12:05):
know when you're growing up orwhen you're going into adulthood
, what would it be?
And what did you say?
A talk show host, yes, and Iwas like that's it, we're doing
it, we're doing it, you're in.
So we'll start with somequestions.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Let's start with some questions, okay.
Okay, let's see Testimonies oftheir campers giving their life
to Christ, so I thought that wasa really good question.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So they're asking each of y'all to share a
testimony of when a student youwere working with came to faith
while they were at SWO.
That's cool.
I'd love to hear that too.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, do you want to go?
Yeah, I think one that comes tomind, which was just super
crazy and kind of random, but Iwas running late.
I had to do something at camp.
I was running late and so I wascoming into service.
I think worship had alreadystarted of like lingering
(13:06):
outside of the super coop,wasn't my camper, but like I
kind of walked past her and thentook a few steps back and was
like hey, what's going on?
I didn't really know, like ifshe was like trying to get out
of service, I don't know, but Ijust um talked to her and
literally within me just beinglike, hey, what's going on?
Immediately like broke downcrying and um, she just shared
with me some things that havebeen going on, and to me it was
(13:27):
evident like she was saying likeI need help, like the things
that have been said this weekendare resonating with me, like
like Jesus, I want to know him,I want a relationship with him,
and so this is my first summerand it was like pretty early on,
like week one or two, and so Iremember being like, oh my gosh,
like a little bit of panic oflike, is this really happening?
(13:48):
Like am I really qualified todo this.
Um, but then, like just wordsjust kind of started flowing out
of my mouth and we had reallycool conversation and, um, then
one of my good friends, emma,who was also on staff, walked up
and we both just kind of walkedher through and led her to
Christ.
And then it was also cool, likethe timing was just so random,
(14:11):
but one of her female leadersalso came out to check on her
and so we were able to have thisconversation just with her
leader, with another snowbirdstaff, and we just walked her
through that.
I couldn't tell you her name, Icouldn't tell you what church
she's from, but I rememberthat's just like the first thing
that comes to mind.
It was just really random andyou know, in my head I
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envisioned like, okay, this ishow it's going to go down and
share group, a kid's going tocome up to me and like this is
how it's going to be played out.
Um, but I just feel like I haveso many stories where it's like
everything did not go how Ithought or like how I planned it
out, but the Lord still, youknow, just provided me with like
the words to say and the wisdomand the confidence and
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everything like that, to just,you know, walk her through that
the thing about working here, Ithink, is that's different from
everyday life, which in everydaylife, you never know when you
might have a gospel conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
As believers, we should constantly be looking for
those conversations and thoseopportunities.
When you're at SWO or like whenyou're working at camp, the
opportunity can come to you, Ithink, more easily where you
know.
If you're out in the publicsquare and you're looking for
gospel opportunities, usuallyyou're going to initiate, you're
going to engage, and it reallyis amazing when the Lord brings
(15:26):
that to you.
And is that?
Was that, emma Jones?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Emma Jones yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Do y'all remember the story?
I think I should tell folks thestory about when I first got
into student ministry.
I tell this at staff trainingevery year and that kid, andrew
Robarge, who, who I prayed withthe first kid I ever counseled,
so jb was saying you, you'vekind of got an idea, you've
played out in your mind likewhat this is going to be like.
I'm going to say this and thisand this and you kind of picture
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how the conversation is goingto go.
There's a scene, uh, there's amoment scripture where jesus
tells his disciples.
When you get in a moment whereI think he's talking about
persecution, he's like you'regoing to go in front of judges
You're going to be in front of.
You're going to have to give anaccount for your faith or give
an answer for your faith.
Don't worry about what to say,don't plan it out.
I'm going to speak through you.
For believers, it's importantthat we're saturated with the
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spirit, with the word of God.
So my mind is being saturatedevery day when people ask me uh,
what do you do for?
How do you study the Bible?
Well, mostly I just try tosaturate my brain with scripture
in the morning.
I'm a hydrate my body and Ihydrate my brain.
You know, and if you'resaturated with scripture, then
when those opportunities come,the spirit of God's going to use
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the word of God in you and but,uh, you.
But I can remember I wasworking the first camp that
Little and I worked at before westarted SWO.
I was trying to.
We didn't work directly withstudents and I think y'all will
remember this story when I starttelling it.
We didn't work directly withstudents, but there wasn't.
The staff was very small.
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I think we had six summer staffcounselors for a camp that ran
about 150 kids Very smallcompared to SWO, but still a
terrible ratio Three guys, threegirls and 150 students.
So they asked us if we wouldcome and help be counselors.
So Little and I go and it'slike week two of camp, the first
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week they had such an overflowand they would do at that camp
they would do what they calledimpact night.
So on the second night or thirdnight of camp it was like we're
going to do a big invitationand really challenge kids to
come and make a decision.
I think it was the third nightof camp.
So an impact night.
There's always an overflow ofpeople coming forward to make
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decisions.
So I remember sitting down andthinking through what am I going
to say.
So I know maybe I'll ask him ifhe uses drugs or if he drinks
or if he's disrespectful to hisparents.
I come up with like this listof sins, you know, the youth
group blacklist.
I was like I'm going to ask him.
You know, the kid comes out andI'm like freaked out, I'm the
(18:08):
last person to go out with a kidand and I'm picturing that I'm
going to end up with a 17 yearold dude and we're going to talk
about sports and then thislittle nerdy 11, 12 year old
homeschool kid comes walking outand I'm like, hey, buddy, and I
was a pretty.
I think I was probably a scarydude in those days in my early
20s, with an intensity that hadnot been reigned in, and I think
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I overwhelmed him by just kindof getting in his face and the
first time I've ever talked to akid about the gospel, we sit
down and I'm like, all right,man, what's going on in your
life?
And I think I asked him if helooked at porn you know, like
you struggling with porn andhe's like what's that?
And I was like, uh, ask yourmom, um, what about?
(18:53):
Uh, you know, have you trieddrugs?
You know, have you triedalcohol?
And this kid's, I think he was12.
I think he just turned 12 andhe's like no, and and I'm like,
well, why did you come back here?
Why did you come forward?
He said my grandma's got cancerand you know, and he's just
torn up about his grandma and mygrandmother had passed away
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when I was 12 years old fromthis, from cancer, and I said,
oh, it'll be fine.
When I was your age, mygrandmother died from cancer.
My grandmother had cancer.
And he said what happened?
I said she died.
You know, this kid just breaksdown, he just melts down.
He's weeping, bawling,squalling, crying.
Oh my word, complete trainwreck.
And so I came away from thatconversation.
I was like, oh my gosh, oh, Ijust ruined that kid's week.
I ruined this whole summer.
But the Lord reconnected mewith that kid at the end of the
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week.
We exchanged addresses.
He had the camp address, I, Igot his mail address and I sent
him a handwritten note.
I'm praying for you, prayingfor your grandma started a
relationship and all the waythrough that kid's high school
we wrote letters.
That's cool, wow, yeah, and itchanged.
It really impacted my life,probably far more than it
impacted his life.
I mean that that would havehappened in 1997.
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The kid probably graduated highschool 22, 23 years ago, and I
don't know whatever happened tohim, but we stayed connected and
so, yeah, I love that aspect ofyou don't know when you're
going to have that conversation.
You're walking in and therethat kid is Pretty cool, issa,
you got a story that sticks out,even if it's not a kid coming
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to faith, but just a particularsituation.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
There's one conversation it wasn't during
summer, it was during a winterswill and I asked to be paired
up with this church because itwas from an area in Georgia that
I knew.
I was like, oh, that's so cool.
And there's this one girl andshe was very like quiet.
Funny story actually, I thoughtshe was the youth pastor's wife
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at first because she did notwant to like talk to anyone and
she looked older than sheactually was.
And then come to find out she'sactually my camper for the
weekend and she doesn't want totalk during share groups.
So she's just walking away andI'm like, hey, like, do you want
to go walk?
She said, sure, I don't haveanything else to do.
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And that's when you really canconnect with a camper.
Is in that between time, likethe Snack Shack's not open yet,
we don't have rec at night andthey're just like like figuring
out what to do while their otherfriends get out of share group.
And I was just like tell meabout yourself.
And like JB was saying, um, Ithink it's easier for campers to
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talk to a stranger sometimesand just to open up because
they're like well, I won't seethem after this weekend.
But it's truly when you canreally help a student out.
She's like well, life at homejust isn't that good right now
and she just started sharingsome stuff and it wasn't heavy.
But I could feel for her oflike yeah, those things are hard
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and those things do soundhorrible.
Um, and then asking her, likeare you a believer?
And she's like I don't, I don'tthink so.
And I love when campers arehonest, because some campers
will come through here andthey're like oh yeah, I, I, I
love the Lord, and you can seethat there's no fruit.
And you try to like push throughand like try to break the ice
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of like you know.
Let's actually, you know, havea serious conversation, but
they're like no, I love the Lord, I read my Bible, but I love
the honesty of a camper.
That's like no.
I don't know, I don't.
I'm not like like following theLord and she was just like I
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just don't know, like if I am ornot.
Like I go to church, but I justdon't know.
Like my family doesn't reallygo to church.
I go with my grandparents, butmy grandma's so strict and mean
and like I feel forced to go andjust kind of sharing some like
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personal things with her, oflike hey, like this is how I can
in a way relate to you and likethe Lord, you know he redeems
us, and like sometimes we don'tunderstand why, like family
members are the way that theyare, but like we know that the
lord is good and, despitewhatever family we're placed in,
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like we can always know likethe lord is good and he's
constant and he loves us, andthat can be our source of joy
when our family is not providingus with love and it's not
providing us with affection, andlike you know advice or wisdom,
like we can seek that outsideof them with the lord, who gives
it like freely to us.
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And like I know that nothinglike returns empty, like the
word of the lord doesn't returnvoid and she did not give her
life to the Lord and you knowthat weekend you could just see
her wanting, but there'ssomething there that was keeping
her away and you know I thinkof her often.
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I was going through my notesand I saw her account for like
she sells like key chains andstuff and was like, wow, I hope
she's doing great and justpraying for her.
There's times like that where acamper will come in.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You'll see them probably once and they don't
give their life over to the Lord.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
We can plant a seed and somewhere along the road
someone else will water it.
The Lord's still good in thosemoments you know the Lord's
still good in those moments.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, I've had a few like encounters similar to where
it's like I don't really knowlike how far my words went with
that camper, like really, whatwas the outcome, and then, like
a few months later, I'll get atext that's like hey, jb, I
don't know if you remember me,but I just got baptized at my
church and it's like whoa, likethat's awesome.
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Like you know, I think that'svery humbling and I don't know
it's just a really cool feelingto like you're saying like plant
a seed that you don't know whoelse is going to water that.
And I think that's the beautyof like Snowbird.
It's like we're not meant to dolife with them, like we're
meant to, you know, kind of spurthem on and then send them home
.
You know, equip the church,help their youth pastors, stuff
(25:25):
like that just being faithful inthat moment.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Yeah, yeah, in that moment?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
do y'all know, how do y'all remember me talking
different times and stafftraining about when people say,
well, if one kid's life haschanged, it's worth, and always.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
That's really stuck out to me, ever since you've
said that, yeah, good and therest of that is no.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
If no one's life is impacted no one responds it's
still worth it because we'rebeing obedient to God's call in
our lives and there are biblicalexamples of men and women who
God called to minister in acontext that no one responded.
You know and praise the Lord,we get to see a lot of fruit,
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and so when you do have those,that what that does is that
helps you.
When you have a situation likethat to go, no, it's, I'm being
faithful yeah that's true, andand it's so, it's worth it.
It's always worth it to beobedient to jesus.
Um, thank y'all for sharingthose.
What about, uh?
Before we go to the nextquestion, I think we only have a
few, right?
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Yeah, um, before we go that,what about is there?
If you don't have one, it'sfine.
Can you think of funny story?
A funny, a funny kid?
You worked with anything funny?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
let's see.
Oh, my goodness, this is justkind of funny and like an
awkward story.
So, um, I was a river guide forboth summers and so you know,
you just get random kids in yourboat.
Sometimes it's your campers,sometimes it's like a group of
middle school boys, whatever.
And this particular day I hadthis little middle school boy
and it was like all my campersand then I think it was like one
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of their little brothers orsomething, and so obviously, the
whole time on the river, likeI'm messing with him, I'm
splashing him with water, likeyou know he's in middle school,
like he's shaking, and then thatnight I'm walking through the
basketball court and I see himand I'm like, oh, what's up?
You know, going for the fistbump, he grabs my hand, brings
it in for a hug and hugs me, buthe's like he's like you're my
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dog and I, literally I'm juststanding there.
You know, as a middle school boyI'm like oh, so good to see you
like trying to push him away,but like, so be funny.
But me and all my friendsalways joke about that.
Like some of like me, emmaReagan will like greet each
other.
Like that we'll be like oh,what's up?
And then like each other, somany like little awkward
instances where I'm like oh, thekids get, kids get.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
We go through this a lot in staff training.
Kids get so affectionatetowards and enamored with the
staff, and so we're alwaystalking about parameters and
safety measures for a kid not tohug you frontal hug, you know.
So he reeled it right in I waslike oh, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You got one.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
A funny story.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I'll tell you a funny one.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Okay, you go.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
This kid named.
It was an initial O, somethingO-, OJ, OT, O, whatever.
I can't remember now and Ithink it was Okay.
Okay, it's funny because if it'sOT, we have an OT.
Orrin Jones goes by OT.
Anyway, this kid came with,remember that group, renegade
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Wrestlers, that comes, yes, yeah, so we have a group that comes
to camp and it's not it's not ayouth group, and they come in
the summer and all the kids are.
The whole crew is uh, theirhigh school wrestling club used
to be the actual high schoolteam and then coach quit
coaching at that high school.
Anyway, it's a group ofwrestlers, like a usa wrestling
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club, and they always have somereally good wrestlers.
And this kid was rough and fromthe hood, like from the inner
city.
I think they're fromwinston-salem and if you know
winston-salem, there's an innerurban part of that city.
That's, you know, just veryurban, very rough, and most of
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these wrestlers came out of thatcommunity and they're really
fun, but they were completelyunchurched, unhinged.
They had, no, they didn't havelike christian manners, you know
, I mean, and so we're going.
And then, if you know wrestlers, wrestlers are pretty crude, I
mean, it's rough.
Um, they're interestingcharacters, they're just very
interesting.
There's almost like apersonality that goes with
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wrestling.
And this kid was we're goingdown the river and he had to go
to the restroom, oh no.
And somebody said, just go inthe water.
And two things he did not haveto go.
Number one oh no, and he didnot get into the water, he went
over the side of the boat.
And so one, and he did not getinto the water, he went over the
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side of the boat.
And so we're floating along,and y'all know this story.
We're floating along, I meanwhat were 12, 14 boats, and
about boat number four in theline and his kids drop trow and
he's over the edge of the boatdoing his thing, and I mean I'm
talking about girls, girl, staff, guy, you know.
And then there he goes to thebathroom in the room.
So, um, I remember the coachwas just like screwing.
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The coach was so rough with him.
Y'all know the coach yeah y'allknow him it's madison's day I
was about to say yeah, it'shooks and he comes over there
and just pile drops that kid buthe's laughing.
You know, um, yes, that there'sone.
I can tell stories like thatfor just funny camp stories for
days.
You know, okay, yes, thatthere's one.
I can tell stories like thatfor just funny camp stories for
days.
You know, okay, that might be afun episode to do sometime,
like top 10 favorite funnystories, that one always stands
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out.
What else we got?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
um, I think all of my funny stories are on the river
too the rivers, it just pulls itout.
It's a slam dunk for funnystories honestly um, we were.
It was after, uh, intern rivertraining, so we had just got
trained on the river and southside is our biggest like you
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know retreat like like the firstretreat is just so big because
it's just all south side and youjust don't know who you're
going to get on your boat.
Ever really.
And I just got a random likegroup of kids that were just
like random, like oh, I didn'tfind like a boat to be in, so
let's just pile them all in.
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But they knew each other.
And there was this one kid andhe was a little bit on the
bigger side and he had neverdone anything like high
adventure recreation whatsoever.
So usually you hold the paddlelike this, but he was holding it
like this and he was like Idon't know what I'm doing the
whole river.
I'm explaining to him like hey,look at me, hold it like this
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and he would be like, and hewould just move his hand back
backwards under the paddle andjust like would struggle to
paddle.
And I'm like you're hand backbackwards under the paddle and
just like would struggle topaddle and I'm like you're doing
it wrong the whole time.
And then the other, the otherkids, they were like we should
throw him in and I'm like, let,let's be kind.
And they're like I don't careand they like they.
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They threw him in into thewater and we're like at like a
really shallow part wherethere's a lot of rocks and it's
so funny, he like falls in andhe is struggling because he
doesn't have good balance andhe's a little bit on the heavier
side and he doesn't know how toswim.
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He has a life jacket, obviously, but he's like freaking out,
get me back in the boat.
And he like falls over buttcrack out showing everyone and
he's just like can't get up.
And then I obviously have toget him in and I'm struggling
and I'm like trying to yank himbut I'm like, hey, dude, you
gotta help me out.
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You got to like move and he'slike moving his legs.
But the more he moves his legsup and down like, the more his
shorts start squiggling down so.
I'm just like, oh my gosh, Ijust yanked him and everyone
else is just laughing and I'mlaughing so hard I can't paddle.
These kids aren't paddlingbecause we're just dying.
And he, he just sits down andhe's like um we, we would hit
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rocks, buffalo rock, and he'slike I'm having the best time.
But you could tell he was beingso sarcastic.
This is the most fun I've everhad and he gets in the boat and
he's like it was so fun.
Please push me back in againand he's just being so sarcastic
he did not enjoy it.
And then we hit like the fallsand he is like holding the
paddle like this wrong the wholetime and that was one of my
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like best trips down and he wasjust so funny funny butt cracks.
You see them a lot, oh yeah oh,yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, you get a lot of indecent exposure um Any more
questions?
Did anybody send any morequestions?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Let's check, okay.
Someone asked how do you know,or how did you know, that the
Lord called you to work at SWO?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I think you both kind of already answered that in
your intro story, which wasreally cool to.
For me it was really cool tohear it again.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I think for me too, like I kind of went from early
high school to where, like Ididn't struggle with much, and
then later on in high school Ikind of got like mixed up I
don't want to say with the wrongcrowd, like good kids, but I
just, you know, wasn't reallyliving for the Lord, wasn't
living a very fruitful life.
And I remember my old youthpastor sent me either like the
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at the time servant teamapplication or the staff
application, and it was like mysenior year of high school.
I remember it kind of in myhead being like I'm not doing
that, like it's my senior summer, I've beach trips planned and
all this stuff.
I always think I'm like dang,what could have been if I had
just like gone then, um, andthen it's crazy, just like a
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year later of like I went tocollege and was just kind of hit
with like reality, of like Ithink I was kind of living in
the shadow of my parents faith,um, and I went to the same
church my whole life.
So like church was just more oflike a social thing.
You know, I I never really hadto make faith my own until I
went to a college town where Iknow, I knew nobody and nobody
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was holding me accountable to goto church, um.
And then then that's when I waslike, okay, I need to, I need
to get my eyes together, I needto do something.
And then I applied for Snowbirdand I was honestly scared.
I was like I don't know if I'mgoing to get in, and then just
like prayed through that andlike, like I kind of said before
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, I think beforehand, I was like, yeah, I don't know where I'll
work maybe wind shape, maybeother camps but like as soon as
I got the call or like the email, whatever it was, I was like,
oh, I'm going there.
I think it just did hold a verylike special place in my heart
because I came as a camper, um,I don't know, I think that's
just really cool, just beinglike man, I was a camper and I
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work here like I would have havenever thought I don't know
crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But that's kind of more detailed With your story.
I would say I hope parentswould be encouraged by this that
you went off to college.
You were a kid who was aChristian.
You were raised in a Christianhome.
I know your folks.
They're people who love theLord.
They love their girls.
They're not perfect, little,and aren't perfect.
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No, there's no perfect parents.
God himself is the only perfectfather.
And let me say to parents it's ascary thing to turn your kid
loose to go to school or to themilitary or off to the mission
field, whatever.
And we see a lot of parentshang up or hold up their kids
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from coming and faithfullyserving the Lord here.
We especially see it withelement kids, high school kids.
The thought of turning your kidloose for a summer when they're
in high school and you feellike that biological family
clock is ticking and this ismaybe the last summer you're
going to have them at home.
I will tell you that if youwill entrust your kid to the
Lord, um, the way Hannah didwith Samuel, the most gratifying
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thing is is to watch your kidwalk in in obedience to God's
call on their life and, um, andI'm thankful for um jb's story
that, uh, when she got to schoolshe wasn't exactly walking
where she needed to be walking,but god was faithful to the
salvation he had given her andif, if a kid has put their faith
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in jesus, they're gonna be justfine.
I would just tell you thatdon't, don't worry about it,
don't I?
That as parents, we tend tohang up on things.
Everyone y'all don't see,there's three dudes sitting in
the room right now, all whoseparents have supported them
being here, and they're allyoung men now and they're in
adulthood, but in thattransitional.
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So there's five people in theroom besides me all who I would
attribute their success incoming here partly to their
parents being willing to letthem follow God's call on their
lives.
Sure, and I would just I wouldencourage parents that if you
feel like you've got a kid thatis in the least bit inclined to
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go serve the Lord, even ifthey're in high school, do it Um
, inclined to go serve the Lord,even if they're in high school,
do it Um, and you will neverI've never talked to a parent of
a, of an adult child, who looksback and says, man, I wish I
hadn't let my kids serve at SWOor go to the mission field or
spend a year in the Institute.
It'll, it'll, it'll changetheir lives and um and.
But then, on that, on the otherside of that token, when they
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go off to school, just trustthem, trust the Holy Spirit in
them to guide them the way hedid in JB's story.
You don't have to worry.
I think parents worry and freakout and try to control so much
and you don't have to do that.
Just trust the Lord.
So it's a good word.
What else?
What else?
We got Any more questions?
Yes, it's a good word.
What else?
What else we got Any morequestions?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yes, someone asked about how it looks like to share
or be a Christian in theathletic area of life.
So I think, like in sports,this person is in high school
and just asking how it lookslike to follow the Lord in that
area.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
So yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I mean, does one of y'all want to tackle that?
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I wasn't a believer until I was 18 and out of high
school.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
So you swam.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, I was about to say I would always, um, I was a
captain my junior and senioryear of high school swim and,
like I mentioned previously, itwas like I was, I was a believer
, and I said that I was abeliever, but at times, like I
said, I just wasn't living likereally fruitfully or really
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faithfully.
But, um, I, I've always justfelt like very passionate, like
if I'm put in a position ofleadership, like I'm gonna, I
guess, like capitalize on it, Ijust really, I don't know, I
like that feeling of like beingable to just, you know, lead
people well.
And so I was a captain and sowe would have like a chant.
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It's like a thing I don't knowif it's a thing in like all swim
teams, but in my town each swimteam had like a chant right
before the meet started whateverso the whole team's together
and after we would do the chant.
I would just like pray reallyquickly in between, like right
after the chant, and theneveryone would disperse.
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And I grew up in a prettyconservative town but I remember
there was a boy who like reallypushed back on.
That was like I don'tunderstand why we all have to
pray before the meet.
And I mean I had a goodconversation with him.
I was like by all means, youdon't have to stay, it's not
mandatory.
And I know things with likeschool and religion can get
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weird, but I think like the mostimportant thing, just in school
or friend groups or sports orwhatever it is, it's like just
living faithfully and like a lotof times you don't have to say
a prayer or have to have a Biblestudy Granted, those things are
good.
A prayer or have to have aBible study Granted, those
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things are good.
You know that quote.
That's like sometimes you don'thave to use words when sharing
the gospel.
I don't fully agree with thatbecause I think-.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
But there's a principle there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
But anyways.
So I've had some people reachout to me post high school.
I've been out of high schoollike five years and people have
reached out to me and just beenlike hey, I just really
appreciated what a true friendyou were.
Or like even my parents anytime.
People would spend the nightwith us on Friday or Saturday
night, that next Sunday we'regoing to church, you're more
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than welcome to come with us.
So just stuff like that of justbeing faithful and being true
and genuine and a lot of timeslike that will just kind of open
doors to gospel conversations,just because your life, you're
living your life differently.
You're not gossiping, you'renot being rude, you're not
cussing, you know I mean, ifyou're in high school you know
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everyone's going one way andit's not the best way, you know.
So it's like I think a lot oftimes people are like I'm scared
to stand up or do somethingdifferent.
Um, but that's kind of likewhat I've thought about and
that's good.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I like that.
Uh, the little intro and outrologo on that show, the chosen,
where it's like a circle of fish, a school of fish and then
there's a few fish swimming theother way.
I thought of that when you saidthat, and I appreciate what you
said about.
If you're an athlete, first off, that's not your identity,
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that's not who you are.
If it's your identity, you'regoing to have an identity crisis
when that sport stops, and soit's not who you are.
It's something you do, and Iwould encourage you to do it to
the best and fullest of yourability.
The Bible says uh, paul, paul,and, and right into the
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Corinthians, I think it's.
I remember it was first, secondCorinthians, 10, 31,.
Whatever you do, do it all tothe glory of God.
Whether you eat or you sleep,whatever you do, do it all to
the glory of God.
And what that means is becausethat needs some definition what
does it mean to play basketballto the glory of God?
It means to give 100%.
It means to not let it defineyour joy.
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Okay, listen close.
Doing that sport fully to theglory of God doesn't mean you
win a championship, get in frontof the camera and give praise
and glory to God.
That may be something thathappens and that's awesome.
But what if you're on a teamthat only wins three games?
What if you never get thecamera in front of you?
What if you never have theopportunity to speak that way?
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Back to what JB was sayingabout that.
I think it's Aquinas that saidthat.
Either a Beckett or Aquinas,it's the.
The saying goes preach thegospel always, when, when
necessary, use words.
We, what we do, is we tweakthat a little bit and we say
well, you always use words topreach the gospel, but then let
your nonverbal action beconsistent with the message
you're preaching.
And so, when you're on the when, consistent with the message
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you're preaching.
And so when you're on the, whenyou're on the court or you're
on the field, you should playwith a reckless, savage abandon.
I mean, you should be the mostintense, hardworking athlete on
the, on the court or the field,or in the pool or on the mat,
but then, as soon as thatevent's over, it's done, you
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give it to the lord, you leaveit on the mat, and that doesn't
define who you are.
You may go home frustrated froma loss, but it doesn't define
your joy, your happiness, andthen you be the best teammate.
You can be your person whoencourages others, who picks
them up.
If they're on your team, youhelp them, you encourage them,
you strengthen them.
If they're on the other team,you help them, you encourage
them, you strengthen them.
If they're on the other team,you do everything you can to
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defeat them, but then youexpress gratitude for
competition and you don't seethem as an enemy.
You see them as an opponent ina game, and so it's about
attitude and work ethic anddoing everything you do for
God's glory.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I also think another thing, kind of going back in
that is like having respect foryour teammates and for your
coaches.
I feel like that's a huge thingthat I saw people talking
behind their back around and Iknow that there's some rotten
coaches who stink, but it'sstill like they're placed in
authority over you and you needto respect them and respect
their authority.
I think that's also a huge likeeven moments when I swam in
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high school or whenever, likethere would be times I'd be
ticked off at my coach and likeother people would just have
respect and it would convict meof like I need to have respect
for them and show them honor andgratitude, and I think that's
also a good way that you canjust, you know, kind of go
against the the groove of otherpeople.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
What was the?
What event?
Were you swimming when yousmashed your face into the wall?
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Y'all should see this picture.
The picture no.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
I'll try to see if I can like link it in the
description.
But when I was in high school Ibroke my nose, literally right
here on the bridge of my nose,perfectly even, like raccoon
black eyes, and it was justduring practice and my event was
backstroke.
So like two days a week wewould have like our stroke days
where we would focus on ourspecialized stroke and I'm doing
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underwater breakout kicks so wehave fins on, so you're going a
little bit faster.
And if you've ever been to apool you know those flags.
Those are there forbackstrokers.
Underwater breakout kicks, sowe have fins on, so you're going
a little bit faster.
And if you've ever been to apool, you know those flags.
Those are there forbackstrokers, so you can tell,
okay, I'm X amount of strokesfrom the wall, so I know when to
you know finish or whatever.
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And so we're doing breakouts,underwater breakouts, and I'm
trying to go the whole length ofthe pool without coming up for
air and I see the flag so I likestart to come up and then I'm
like not like just finish strong, so I kind of dive back under,
but I literally dove right intothe wall face first yeah, face
first nose first nose first andmy goggles like snapped I think
my goggles is like what reallydid it?
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but smashed into my eyes, brokemy nose just like a perfect
crack.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Um, but the picture is hilarious so anybody that
doesn't think swim is a violentyeah brutal sport.
Where do you see these pictures?
Speaker 3 (47:43):
yeah, I remember my coach being like this is a no
contact sport.
How did you break your face?
Speaker 4 (47:47):
but yeah, leave it to jb I'll leave it to j JB.
It's stupid, I think on the flipside of you know, being a
believer in sports, like I didsports in high school and in
middle school, but I wasn't abeliever.
But they, like the coaches orother teammates, were like
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similar to JB, very conservativetown, they very high views of
Christianity in Plant City, andbefore every game someone was
praying.
And looking back now Iappreciate it and even then,
like there was somethingdifferent about that prayer,
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like even though I, like, grewup in a household where we
believed in God but we triedeverything, every single church
possible, and it was just reallyencouraging to know like, oh,
we're praying before a game orwe're praying, you know, to
encourage each other.
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Even though I wasn't a believer, I was still like we all love
the Lord, not a believer, andyou know, and even running, I
can remember just being likeLord, give me strength as I'm
running a football field,suicide for soccer, and like I
do appreciate those teammateswho would go out of their way to
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pray or just encourage us andlike an encouragement to other
athletes, like keep being thatperson that doesn't compromise
their faith just because you'rein sports, just because you want
to be cool with your teammates,like, like you said, like being
an athlete is not your identity.
Your identity is in Christ.
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So be a light in your sport.
And it does encouragenonbelievers.
Oh, they're constantly joyful,oh, we lost.
But it doesn't seem to phasethem Because at the end of the
day, win or lose, it's not forour glory like it's for the lord
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, and you know that's not whereidentity lies in.
And I remember losing games andbeing like I suck, you know, and
I was not like a good athlete.
Well, like I think I gave 100every time I was playing, but I
don't think I was like any good,but I still would feel like
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dang, I need to be the best.
For why?
You know, like I wasn't goingto go to college, why do I want
to be the best?
And it was just for like self.
You know, self-glory, you know,just to have some praise from
other people and it wasn't worthit.
Self-glory, you know, just tohave some praise from other
people and it wasn't worth it,but thankful for those teammates
.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
When you're playing 100% for the glory of the Lord,
just to reflect on his character, you end up being better at the
sport really because you takethe pressure off of performing
so you get the approval ofpeople.
I like the idea of just gatherteammates Anybody that wants to.
We're going to pray before thegame.
If it's not a team where thecoach encourages that, I'm going
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to have prayer before the game.
Lately used to do a Bible studybefore all of our games, but it
was early enough before thegame that people didn't have to
come, so maybe some of thoseopportunities.
All right, we got any morequestions?
Speaker 4 (51:15):
I think those well some of the questions is
basically what we talked about.
Somebody asked what was anembarrassing story.
Okay, we have any of those.
I have plenty, me too oh gosh Icould tell embarrassing stories
about both of you.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
Don't go ahead brady, have you ever heard the story
of?
Do you remember when brandonentry used to have that like
motorized bicycle?
oh yes, okay, so I was there,yes, yes, three men.
So I came in.
It wasn't.
It was during like the year ortwo years that I took off, but I
would still come in workretreats, you know, and I I
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think it was a marriageconference and I came in to
watch, I think, the Garner kidsand um, during rec they'd come
home to hang out with their kids, so they're like you can go
hang out, whatever.
So I go to camp to hang out.
See my friends.
This is so funny, it's so funnyand so Brandon is over there at
the three-man swing with thismotorized bike and I'm like,
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like Brandon, can I ride thatthing?
Keep in mind, it's like anadult conference.
So I'm, you know, we try to bea little bit more mature, we're
not as like ah.
And so I'm like, can I ride thatthing?
And it's in that big field bythe three-man swing and you know
, there's like cornhole andspike ball and like different
yard games set up.
And so he's like, yeah, sure,come over here, hop on.
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But it it didn't work like anormal bike, like the brake and
stuff was like a gear that youturned.
But he didn't tell me any ofthis, he just like was holding
it and then as soon as I got onhe let go of it.
I didn't know how to brake, Ididn't know how to stop, I don't
know how to accelerate.
My legs are straight, Icouldn't even put them brake.
I didn't know how to stop, Ididn't know how to accelerate.
My legs are straight, Icouldn't even put them on the
(52:55):
pedals.
And in my brain I was goingreally fast, but I probably was
going pretty slow.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
You were Okay.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Well, in my brain I'm like flying through this field
and there's like a poor coupletrying to play cornhole.
I like go in between them andthen I'm like trying to stop and
I run over a spike ball thing,crack snaps like, and that's
what broke my fall, Cause I gotcaught up in the tire and then I
just fell off the bike.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
I remember I was so embarrassed and it was so funny.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
It was weird Cause it was like half the people were
interns that I hadn't reallyworked with, so I didn't know
them.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
And then, I just know they probably were like who?
Speaker 3 (53:29):
is this chick Like?
Who is she?
Speaker 2 (53:31):
That would have been your first intern year, Lisa.
Yeah, it was Fall of 22.
Oh my gosh, Two years ago.
Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yeah, geez, I remember one time this was last
summer we were doing the openerand I was part of the opener
with Zay, because you know stompteam.
Here we go.
But not really so.
Our opener opener, if y'allcame of summer of 23, we'd come
out on stage and you know, onegroup was on the left side,
another group was on the rightside and we're kind of like
(53:58):
battling on stage for like who'sthe coolest, who dances better?
And it's me against zay andwe're like, oh, and then I push
him, like that's the whole partof the, the opener skate on
monday night.
Like I push him and I'm likewhat's's up, like what's going
on?
We're better.
And then I have like my crew ofbackup dancers behind me hyping
me up, and then he has his crew, but I, in front of like 500
(54:24):
people on stage, I lose myfooting and I push day and I'm
like like backing up and I tripand I fall on my butt in front
of everyone and I'm just like onthe ground.
It's so embarrassing but AJ andReed are dragging, trying to
pick.
One's trying to pick me up andone's trying to get me out of
the way because you know Zay'sabout to go do a back.
(54:47):
No, day is Day's about to comeand do the back flip.
And they're like Issa day'sabout to come and do the
backflip and they're like isa'sgonna get hurt.
So they're trying to like pickaj's like get up.
And it's like trying to pick meup while reed is just dragging
me like I'm just being draggedfrom the middle of the stage
away from like everyone, andit's so embarrassing and I get
up and right when day does thebackflip, like everyone kind of
(55:07):
jumps up and starts dancing andI like get up and I'm like I
can't crawl.
I like literally just run backthere and, funny enough, austin,
or whoever was filming thatnight filmed the whole thing.
We might have to link it withyour picture we might have to
(55:28):
link it with your picture, butit's just me like falling and
they're trying to drag me off.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
And then it was so embarrassing that's perfect,
because I was going to ask uh,have you seen the, the footage?
Because I have.
Speaker 4 (55:42):
So, yeah, yes, and it's just me falling and it's so
, so embarrassing.
I'll have to watch it, peoplefalling is funny.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
It is one time little and I went to last story I'll
tell Little and I this is notcamp related, but we went to a
NASCAR race at Bristol andthere's so already funny for
people that didn't grow up inthe South.
So we're at this NASCAR race atthe Bristol race and everybody
gets drunk at a NASCAR race.
(56:09):
Really, yo.
I mean it's worse than footballgames or baseball games.
Little and I were literally theonly sober people in our
section like, and as the racewent on, people get so drunk by
the end there were quite a fewpeople passed out around us, you
know.
So we leave and we're out in theparking lot and there's a.
(56:29):
There's a long steep bank fromthe one parking lot down to a
main divided highway and then wewere parked a mile away, you
know.
So we get to the edge of thatbank and we start walking down
and I realized, oh, this isreally difficult to navigate.
I mean it's steep and peoplewere falling and rolling.
I'm not talking about one ortwo.
We watched.
(56:50):
We sat there for an a half anhour, for 30 minutes.
We just sat and watched peopleroll.
I bet we saw over 300 peoplefall and roll down that because
they're all drunk.
They already can't walk.
They started trying to go downthis steep bank and they would
fall and they would roll.
This bank was probably half afootball field.
It's probably 50 yards long thecheese competitions oh yeah oh,
(57:14):
that's what I'm envisioning.
Speaker 3 (57:15):
That's about what it looked like.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Was it one of y'all that said it's on your bucket
list to go watch that it's inIreland, right?
Speaker 3 (57:23):
I want to do it.
I want to be the cheese.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
You are the cheese, all right.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
Thank y'all.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Queso.
Speaker 4 (57:34):
I made flan tonight.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Que chistoso.
Speaker 4 (57:37):
Que chistoso.
Next NSR, we'll be doing it inSpanish.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
I'm just kidding, okay.
Speaker 4 (57:43):
Hola, bienvenidos a no Sanity Required.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
I haven't translated it.
Adios, hasta luego, all right,thank y'all for coming.
We'll do this again.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
Yeah, should we gritty out?
Should everyone get a?
Speaker 2 (57:55):
camera.
You should definitely grittyout.
You do that better than anybody.
Speaker 3 (57:58):
I know I was thinking we all look at a camera and
smile with our thumbs up.
Okay, All right, should I look?
You look, middle birdie, thatone I'll do that Okay.
Speaker 4 (58:07):
Three, two, one.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Y'all rolling, okay, and we're at the Supercoop and
we're getting ready to get a newscreen.
How big is that screen going tobe, isa?
Do you know?
One of y'all know I'm unaware,it's the same size, but it's an
led screen.
So this is going to be the newfor now.
For the foreseeable future,this is where we're going to be
recording nsr and, uh.
(00:43):
We got a lot of good feedbackon the video episodes that we
did, so we need some moreequipment.
I need a headset so I don'thave to stand here and hold this
microphone, so hopefully that'snot too distracting.
Yeah, it looks less professionalbut plenty functional.
So we'd love to hear feedbackfrom NSR listeners, the NSR
(01:05):
community, what y'all thinkabout being able to actually
view this so video to go alongwith the episodes, the feedback
on the interview that Joy Bethdid, that JB did with Little,
and I was really good you werethere for that, weren't you Isa?
No, I wasn't.
You weren't there.
Sam was there.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Sam and Austin.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And Austin was there Really good feedback on that.
So, um, yeah, we're gonna,we're gonna do it, uh, today,
and probably at least some ofthe episodes going forward, when
we get that new led screen,then we'll be able to logo that.
We'll probably, uh, we'llprobably use that screen in
these episodes to promote stuffthat's going on at SWO, whether
(01:43):
it's Winter SWO or I was aboutto say Winter Extreme, your name
.
Well, we promote that's anevent in Gatlinburg that we
promote SWO at and I've spokenat it before.
So, anyway, winter SWO andSummer Camp which, by the way,
(02:04):
people that talk about how goodour social media stuff is, which
I get a ton of feedback on nsrand on social media, this, this
gal right here, this team righthere they're phenomenal.
Um, you're not seeing the guysthat aren't on camera right now,
but we've got an incredibleteam right now.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
We switched the camera.
We're like Chris Sam Andrew.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But Issa does the majority of our social media
stuff and that was so coolyesterday for next summer.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yes, a little sneak peek yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, did you get a lot of comments and conversation
.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, a few people texted and they're like that's
exciting yeah, the colors aregreat.
I think it's different yeah,we've done.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We've done narrative type stuff for the last three
summers.
We did david, joseph, joseph,and then stuff in the gospels
life of christ.
I don, what did we do?
Were any of y'all here?
What?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
was it.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh, the attributes of God.
That's right.
That was in this building.
What was the 2020 first year?
The sovereignty, okay, yes,yeah.
So we're kind of back to thattype of material, which I'm
excited about.
I think it's easier to teachnarratives with students.
(03:28):
It's a little bit harder to dodoctrinal stuff.
I've been really spending a lotof time in that Romans 8
passage.
It's going to be a littleharder for the teaching team.
I think it'll be good andpractical and helpful, but it is
going to be a little bittougher, but I'm excited about
it.
I think it is going to be alittle bit tougher, but I'm
excited about it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
People, I think people are going to love it so
it's romans 8 is like one of myfavorite, like go-to passages,
especially for likeencouragement or like I'm short
on time in the morning.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I'm like romans 8 or 12 yeah, romans 12.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So good for christian living.
Like how you're going to cometo work, what kind of person
you're going to be when you getto work, how you're going to
interact with people.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I think you prayed that this morning.
I did, you did.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Mm-hmm at 8 o'clock.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Prefer one another.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Mm-hmm.
Outdo one another and show anhonor.
Yeah, be fervent in zeal.
Hate what is evil.
Hold fast to what is good.
Hold fast to what is good.
Outdo one another in showinghonor, Brotherly affection.
I love that.
Yeah, I think my prayer thismorning was that we would love
each other well today as a team.
So it is unique what we havehere, and I don't know how many
(04:35):
people that listen will know whoy'all are.
So, jb, quick introduction Justname where you're from
background, swell background.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I'm JB.
Real name, joy Beth or JoyElizabeth JB for short.
I'm from Marietta, georgia, andI started coming to camp when I
was in sixth grade with myyouth pastor.
I came with like a winter swelland technically I was like in
fifth grade so I thought I wasreally cool that I got to come
(05:06):
and then we got a new youthpastor around like my junior
year so we unfortunatelyswitched to a different camp, um
, and then finished out highschool.
I knew in college that I wantedto like help out and serve my
summer at a camp so I applied tolike wind shape, central kid
snowbird and um was just kind ofpraying through that.
And then, as soon as I got thecall and serve my summer at a
camp, so I applied to likeWindshape Centric Kid Snowbird
and was just kind of prayingthrough that.
(05:28):
And then as soon as I got thecall that I got accepted, it was
just kind of like, oh, I'mgoing to Snowbird, really cool,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And from there you rolled straight into.
You did an intern year.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, so my first summer was summer of 21.
And then straight after that Idid institute interning and then
did 22.
Then I had to go back to schooland finish up some loosens, did
my junior and senior year incollege at Carson Newman, and
then now I came back this pastsummer worked with element.
(05:59):
That was awesome, and then nowI'm um in media department, do
NSR and stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yes, joy Beth is.
These ladies are probably well,not probably.
They are the two people that Iwork closest with on the NSR
content, even more so than ourteaching staff, even more so
than John Rouleau, I would sayJoy Beth.
A lot of y'all are familiarwith the transition.
(06:26):
You know about the transitionfrom Maddie and Joy Beth taking
over that job.
So now you get to meet Joy Beth, actually meet her JB JB around
here.
She's cool.
I'm so glad you're here.
Jb is real close friends withone of my daughters lately.
So we're going to do an episodeon Element soon.
(06:47):
We've thrown the idea aroundand so we want to do an episode
kind of unpacking what Elementis, what that program is.
It's our high school program,discipleship program.
So awesome, issa.
Hey First time you came wascollege retreat college retreat,
uh, 2022, yeah, um.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I'd never been to camp till I stepped foot, like
that afternoon when we didcheck-in, and it was my first
time like leaving florida andcoming this far north.
I think the furthest is Vidalia, georgia.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Really, because you have family there.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, I have family there.
I came up with some friendsthat started going to my home
church and they had like a Bibleministry and they're like we're
going up to the college retreatyou should come with and I said
that sounds exciting.
They showed me the promo videoand I was like dang, that is so
cool.
And the promo video.
And I was like dang, that is socool.
(07:47):
And I said sign me up, here'smy money.
And I came and instantlysetting foot on campus, you can
just feel there's somethingdifferent about being here.
It feels good to be here.
And we sat over there, thosechairs, and like the skit that
weekend and the music and theteaching, I I was just like
blown away.
And then they were talkingabout hey, we have like our
(08:09):
recruiting team out in the backby the snack shack.
Go talk to them if you'reinterested in working on staff.
And I said you know what.
I'm going to stay back and go tothe panel that they had and
listen in and see what they'reabout a little bit more.
And then one of those nights Iwent over there and I talked to
Maddie who used to do the NSRediting, and I said I want to
(08:33):
work here, but like I'm not likejust saying that to throw that
around, like I want to work here, and she said okay, have you
started the application?
Now, this is my first day here.
She said okay, have you startedthe application?
Now, this is my first day here.
She said okay, well, we can doan in-person interview if you're
free this weekend.
I said I'm free, just let meknow.
(08:57):
I got her number and she textedme and, funny enough, I had my
interview in the media officewhere I work now and she
interviewed me that weekend andI had never looked at the
application on the website oranything.
She just started asking me allthese questions and I was like,
ok, we're, we're diving in, I'msharing my testimony, we're
talking about the virgin birth.
You know, it was crazy likeright from the start, and I
(09:19):
remember leaving the mediaoffice and feeling like, wow,
that's exciting.
I went home which home is PlantCity Florida for me and I
applied, submitted myapplication and I came and
worked that summer and Itransitioned into the Institute
that after that first summer of22.
(09:41):
And then I stayed.
I've been here ever since Then.
I transitioned into FT3position with media after my
first intern year and now I'm inmy second year of that and I
love it here.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Uh, one of the things we talked about just before we
dive into the, the talkingpoints um, there's uh going
forward, there's going to bey'all going to see more and more
of these two, partly because,um, we, we want the girls and
ladies that come to SWO to feelconnected with the team that
(10:17):
they hear from and see from thestage and on social media.
Um, and so isa is is steppinginto an even more integral,
vital role, more involved rolewith the production team, which
is uh run by john rouleau.
Um, and those of you that havebeen at swo over the last year,
(10:38):
you've, you've seen they shouldhave seen you already um, girls
night on wednesday nights, youkind of ran.
That didn't you?
I did, yeah, so a lot of peopleare going to be familiar with
isa and um, but, jb, also, we'regoing to start pulling these
girls into a more um visiblerole, and I think it's cool to
(10:58):
have a couple ladies in thatrole.
But also there's a hugegeneration gap.
They're the age of my daughtersand so, you know, I, I don't, I
don't feel like an old manbecause I live in a world of
young people.
So I really, I really don'tfeel that way.
Um, you know when you spend.
When you spend 90 of your timewith people a third your age, um
(11:20):
, it, you know, it's, it'sreally cool, I mean it.
It kind of keeps you thinkingmore along those lines.
But at the same time, I wantstudents to feel connected, um
to what we're doing and and Ilove the idea of a
multi-generational approach, um,and just some diversity in in
terms of gender and age.
So we're hoping to broaden, umthe nsr impact.
(11:43):
These gals won't be on everysingle episode, but you're gonna
see a lot of them and if youcome to swole, you're really
going to see a lot of them.
So, um, asa, I at the ball game.
Would you please tell folks atthe ball game the other night.
We're in middle schoolbasketball game.
He's in our sitting togethersit with my family, and I said
if you could have your dream job, like I think, think I don't
(12:05):
know when you're growing up orwhen you're going into adulthood
, what would it be?
And what did you say?
A talk show host, yes, and Iwas like that's it, we're doing
it, we're doing it, you're in.
So we'll start with somequestions.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Let's start with some questions, okay.
Okay, let's see Testimonies oftheir campers giving their life
to Christ, so I thought that wasa really good question.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So they're asking each of y'all to share a
testimony of when a student youwere working with came to faith
while they were at SWO.
That's cool.
I'd love to hear that too.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, do you want to go?
Yeah, I think one that comes tomind, which was just super
crazy and kind of random, but Iwas running late.
I had to do something at camp.
I was running late and so I wascoming into service.
I think worship had alreadystarted of like lingering
(13:06):
outside of the super coop,wasn't my camper, but like I
kind of walked past her and thentook a few steps back and was
like hey, what's going on?
I didn't really know, like ifshe was like trying to get out
of service, I don't know, but Ijust um talked to her and
literally within me just beinglike, hey, what's going on?
Immediately like broke downcrying and um, she just shared
with me some things that havebeen going on, and to me it was
(13:27):
evident like she was saying likeI need help, like the things
that have been said this weekendare resonating with me, like
like Jesus, I want to know him,I want a relationship with him,
and so this is my first summerand it was like pretty early on,
like week one or two, and so Iremember being like, oh my gosh,
like a little bit of panic oflike, is this really happening?
(13:48):
Like am I really qualified todo this.
Um, but then, like just wordsjust kind of started flowing out
of my mouth and we had reallycool conversation and, um, then
one of my good friends, emma,who was also on staff, walked up
and we both just kind of walkedher through and led her to
Christ.
And then it was also cool, likethe timing was just so random,
(14:11):
but one of her female leadersalso came out to check on her
and so we were able to have thisconversation just with her
leader, with another snowbirdstaff, and we just walked her
through that.
I couldn't tell you her name, Icouldn't tell you what church
she's from, but I rememberthat's just like the first thing
that comes to mind.
It was just really random andyou know, in my head I
(14:32):
envisioned like, okay, this ishow it's going to go down and
share group, a kid's going tocome up to me and like this is
how it's going to be played out.
Um, but I just feel like I haveso many stories where it's like
everything did not go how Ithought or like how I planned it
out, but the Lord still, youknow, just provided me with like
the words to say and the wisdomand the confidence and
(14:53):
everything like that, to just,you know, walk her through that
the thing about working here, Ithink, is that's different from
everyday life, which in everydaylife, you never know when you
might have a gospel conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
As believers, we should constantly be looking for
those conversations and thoseopportunities.
When you're at SWO or like whenyou're working at camp, the
opportunity can come to you, Ithink, more easily where you
know.
If you're out in the publicsquare and you're looking for
gospel opportunities, usuallyyou're going to initiate, you're
going to engage, and it reallyis amazing when the Lord brings
(15:26):
that to you.
And is that?
Was that, emma Jones?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Emma Jones yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Do y'all remember the story?
I think I should tell folks thestory about when I first got
into student ministry.
I tell this at staff trainingevery year and that kid, andrew
Robarge, who, who I prayed withthe first kid I ever counseled,
so jb was saying you, you'vekind of got an idea, you've
played out in your mind likewhat this is going to be like.
I'm going to say this and thisand this and you kind of picture
(15:56):
how the conversation is goingto go.
There's a scene, uh, there's amoment scripture where jesus
tells his disciples.
When you get in a moment whereI think he's talking about
persecution, he's like you'regoing to go in front of judges
You're going to be in front of.
You're going to have to give anaccount for your faith or give
an answer for your faith.
Don't worry about what to say,don't plan it out.
I'm going to speak through you.
For believers, it's importantthat we're saturated with the
(16:20):
spirit, with the word of God.
So my mind is being saturatedevery day when people ask me uh,
what do you do for?
How do you study the Bible?
Well, mostly I just try tosaturate my brain with scripture
in the morning.
I'm a hydrate my body and Ihydrate my brain.
You know, and if you'resaturated with scripture, then
when those opportunities come,the spirit of God's going to use
(16:40):
the word of God in you and but,uh, you.
But I can remember I wasworking the first camp that
Little and I worked at before westarted SWO.
I was trying to.
We didn't work directly withstudents and I think y'all will
remember this story when I starttelling it.
We didn't work directly withstudents, but there wasn't.
The staff was very small.
(17:01):
I think we had six summer staffcounselors for a camp that ran
about 150 kids Very smallcompared to SWO, but still a
terrible ratio Three guys, threegirls and 150 students.
So they asked us if we wouldcome and help be counselors.
So Little and I go and it'slike week two of camp, the first
(17:26):
week they had such an overflowand they would do at that camp
they would do what they calledimpact night.
So on the second night or thirdnight of camp it was like we're
going to do a big invitationand really challenge kids to
come and make a decision.
I think it was the third nightof camp.
So an impact night.
There's always an overflow ofpeople coming forward to make
(17:46):
decisions.
So I remember sitting down andthinking through what am I going
to say.
So I know maybe I'll ask him ifhe uses drugs or if he drinks
or if he's disrespectful to hisparents.
I come up with like this listof sins, you know, the youth
group blacklist.
I was like I'm going to ask him.
You know, the kid comes out andI'm like freaked out, I'm the
(18:08):
last person to go out with a kidand and I'm picturing that I'm
going to end up with a 17 yearold dude and we're going to talk
about sports and then thislittle nerdy 11, 12 year old
homeschool kid comes walking outand I'm like, hey, buddy, and I
was a pretty.
I think I was probably a scarydude in those days in my early
20s, with an intensity that hadnot been reigned in, and I think
(18:32):
I overwhelmed him by just kindof getting in his face and the
first time I've ever talked to akid about the gospel, we sit
down and I'm like, all right,man, what's going on in your
life?
And I think I asked him if helooked at porn you know, like
you struggling with porn andhe's like what's that?
And I was like, uh, ask yourmom, um, what about?
(18:53):
Uh, you know, have you trieddrugs?
You know, have you triedalcohol?
And this kid's, I think he was12.
I think he just turned 12 andhe's like no, and and I'm like,
well, why did you come back here?
Why did you come forward?
He said my grandma's got cancerand you know, and he's just
torn up about his grandma and mygrandmother had passed away
(19:15):
when I was 12 years old fromthis, from cancer, and I said,
oh, it'll be fine.
When I was your age, mygrandmother died from cancer.
My grandmother had cancer.
And he said what happened?
I said she died.
You know, this kid just breaksdown, he just melts down.
He's weeping, bawling,squalling, crying.
Oh my word, complete trainwreck.
And so I came away from thatconversation.
I was like, oh my gosh, oh, Ijust ruined that kid's week.
I ruined this whole summer.
But the Lord reconnected mewith that kid at the end of the
(19:40):
week.
We exchanged addresses.
He had the camp address, I, Igot his mail address and I sent
him a handwritten note.
I'm praying for you, prayingfor your grandma started a
relationship and all the waythrough that kid's high school
we wrote letters.
That's cool, wow, yeah, and itchanged.
It really impacted my life,probably far more than it
impacted his life.
I mean that that would havehappened in 1997.
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The kid probably graduated highschool 22, 23 years ago, and I
don't know whatever happened tohim, but we stayed connected and
so, yeah, I love that aspect ofyou don't know when you're
going to have that conversation.
You're walking in and therethat kid is Pretty cool, issa,
you got a story that sticks out,even if it's not a kid coming
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to faith, but just a particularsituation.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
There's one conversation it wasn't during
summer, it was during a winterswill and I asked to be paired
up with this church because itwas from an area in Georgia that
I knew.
I was like, oh, that's so cool.
And there's this one girl andshe was very like quiet.
Funny story actually, I thoughtshe was the youth pastor's wife
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at first because she did notwant to like talk to anyone and
she looked older than sheactually was.
And then come to find out she'sactually my camper for the
weekend and she doesn't want totalk during share groups.
So she's just walking away andI'm like, hey, like, do you want
to go walk?
She said, sure, I don't haveanything else to do.
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And that's when you really canconnect with a camper.
Is in that between time, likethe Snack Shack's not open yet,
we don't have rec at night andthey're just like like figuring
out what to do while their otherfriends get out of share group.
And I was just like tell meabout yourself.
And like JB was saying, um, Ithink it's easier for campers to
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talk to a stranger sometimesand just to open up because
they're like well, I won't seethem after this weekend.
But it's truly when you canreally help a student out.
She's like well, life at homejust isn't that good right now
and she just started sharingsome stuff and it wasn't heavy.
But I could feel for her oflike yeah, those things are hard
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and those things do soundhorrible.
Um, and then asking her, likeare you a believer?
And she's like I don't, I don'tthink so.
And I love when campers arehonest, because some campers
will come through here andthey're like oh yeah, I, I, I
love the Lord, and you can seethat there's no fruit.
And you try to like push throughand like try to break the ice
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of like you know.
Let's actually, you know, havea serious conversation, but
they're like no, I love the Lord, I read my Bible, but I love
the honesty of a camper.
That's like no.
I don't know, I don't.
I'm not like like following theLord and she was just like I
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just don't know, like if I am ornot.
Like I go to church, but I justdon't know.
Like my family doesn't reallygo to church.
I go with my grandparents, butmy grandma's so strict and mean
and like I feel forced to go andjust kind of sharing some like
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personal things with her, oflike hey, like this is how I can
in a way relate to you and likethe Lord, you know he redeems
us, and like sometimes we don'tunderstand why, like family
members are the way that theyare, but like we know that the
lord is good and, despitewhatever family we're placed in,
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like we can always know likethe lord is good and he's
constant and he loves us, andthat can be our source of joy
when our family is not providingus with love and it's not
providing us with affection, andlike you know advice or wisdom,
like we can seek that outsideof them with the lord, who gives
it like freely to us.
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And like I know that nothinglike returns empty, like the
word of the lord doesn't returnvoid and she did not give her
life to the Lord and you knowthat weekend you could just see
her wanting, but there'ssomething there that was keeping
her away and you know I thinkof her often.
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I was going through my notesand I saw her account for like
she sells like key chains andstuff and was like, wow, I hope
she's doing great and justpraying for her.
There's times like that where acamper will come in.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You'll see them probably once and they don't
give their life over to the Lord.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
We can plant a seed and somewhere along the road
someone else will water it.
The Lord's still good in thosemoments you know the Lord's
still good in those moments.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, I've had a few like encounters similar to where
it's like I don't really knowlike how far my words went with
that camper, like really, whatwas the outcome, and then, like
a few months later, I'll get atext that's like hey, jb, I
don't know if you remember me,but I just got baptized at my
church and it's like whoa, likethat's awesome.
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Like you know, I think that'svery humbling and I don't know
it's just a really cool feelingto like you're saying like plant
a seed that you don't know whoelse is going to water that.
And I think that's the beautyof like Snowbird.
It's like we're not meant to dolife with them, like we're
meant to, you know, kind of spurthem on and then send them home
.
You know, equip the church,help their youth pastors, stuff
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like that just being faithful inthat moment.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Yeah, yeah, in that moment?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
do y'all know, how do y'all remember me talking
different times and stafftraining about when people say,
well, if one kid's life haschanged, it's worth, and always.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
That's really stuck out to me, ever since you've
said that, yeah, good and therest of that is no.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
If no one's life is impacted no one responds it's
still worth it because we'rebeing obedient to God's call in
our lives and there are biblicalexamples of men and women who
God called to minister in acontext that no one responded.
You know and praise the Lord,we get to see a lot of fruit,
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and so when you do have those,that what that does is that
helps you.
When you have a situation likethat to go, no, it's, I'm being
faithful yeah that's true, andand it's so, it's worth it.
It's always worth it to beobedient to jesus.
Um, thank y'all for sharingthose.
What about, uh?
Before we go to the nextquestion, I think we only have a
few, right?
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Yeah, um, before we go that,what about is there?
If you don't have one, it'sfine.
Can you think of funny story?
A funny, a funny kid?
You worked with anything funny?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
let's see.
Oh, my goodness, this is justkind of funny and like an
awkward story.
So, um, I was a river guide forboth summers and so you know,
you just get random kids in yourboat.
Sometimes it's your campers,sometimes it's like a group of
middle school boys, whatever.
And this particular day I hadthis little middle school boy
and it was like all my campersand then I think it was like one
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of their little brothers orsomething, and so obviously, the
whole time on the river, likeI'm messing with him, I'm
splashing him with water, likeyou know he's in middle school,
like he's shaking, and then thatnight I'm walking through the
basketball court and I see himand I'm like, oh, what's up?
You know, going for the fistbump, he grabs my hand, brings
it in for a hug and hugs me, buthe's like he's like you're my
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dog and I, literally I'm juststanding there.
You know, as a middle school boyI'm like oh, so good to see you
like trying to push him away,but like, so be funny.
But me and all my friendsalways joke about that.
Like some of like me, emmaReagan will like greet each
other.
Like that we'll be like oh,what's up?
And then like each other, somany like little awkward
instances where I'm like oh, thekids get, kids get.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
We go through this a lot in staff training.
Kids get so affectionatetowards and enamored with the
staff, and so we're alwaystalking about parameters and
safety measures for a kid not tohug you frontal hug, you know.
So he reeled it right in I waslike oh, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You got one.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
A funny story.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I'll tell you a funny one.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Okay, you go.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
This kid named.
It was an initial O, somethingO-, OJ, OT, O, whatever.
I can't remember now and Ithink it was Okay.
Okay, it's funny because if it'sOT, we have an OT.
Orrin Jones goes by OT.
Anyway, this kid came with,remember that group, renegade
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Wrestlers, that comes, yes, yeah, so we have a group that comes
to camp and it's not it's not ayouth group, and they come in
the summer and all the kids are.
The whole crew is uh, theirhigh school wrestling club used
to be the actual high schoolteam and then coach quit
coaching at that high school.
Anyway, it's a group ofwrestlers, like a usa wrestling
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club, and they always have somereally good wrestlers.
And this kid was rough and fromthe hood, like from the inner
city.
I think they're fromwinston-salem and if you know
winston-salem, there's an innerurban part of that city.
That's, you know, just veryurban, very rough, and most of
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these wrestlers came out of thatcommunity and they're really
fun, but they were completelyunchurched, unhinged.
They had, no, they didn't havelike christian manners, you know
, I mean, and so we're going.
And then, if you know wrestlers, wrestlers are pretty crude, I
mean, it's rough.
Um, they're interestingcharacters, they're just very
interesting.
There's almost like apersonality that goes with
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wrestling.
And this kid was we're goingdown the river and he had to go
to the restroom, oh no.
And somebody said, just go inthe water.
And two things he did not haveto go.
Number one oh no, and he didnot get into the water, he went
over the side of the boat.
And so one, and he did not getinto the water, he went over the
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side of the boat.
And so we're floating along,and y'all know this story.
We're floating along, I meanwhat were 12, 14 boats, and
about boat number four in theline and his kids drop trow and
he's over the edge of the boatdoing his thing, and I mean I'm
talking about girls, girl, staff, guy, you know.
And then there he goes to thebathroom in the room.
So, um, I remember the coachwas just like screwing.
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The coach was so rough with him.
Y'all know the coach yeah y'allknow him it's madison's day I
was about to say yeah, it'shooks and he comes over there
and just pile drops that kid buthe's laughing.
You know, um, yes, that there'sone.
I can tell stories like thatfor just funny camp stories for
days.
You know, okay, yes, thatthere's one.
I can tell stories like thatfor just funny camp stories for
days.
You know, okay, that might be afun episode to do sometime,
like top 10 favorite funnystories, that one always stands
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out.
What else we got?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
um, I think all of my funny stories are on the river
too the rivers, it just pulls itout.
It's a slam dunk for funnystories honestly um, we were.
It was after, uh, intern rivertraining, so we had just got
trained on the river and southside is our biggest like you
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know retreat like like the firstretreat is just so big because
it's just all south side and youjust don't know who you're
going to get on your boat.
Ever really.
And I just got a random likegroup of kids that were just
like random, like oh, I didn'tfind like a boat to be in, so
let's just pile them all in.
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But they knew each other.
And there was this one kid andhe was a little bit on the
bigger side and he had neverdone anything like high
adventure recreation whatsoever.
So usually you hold the paddlelike this, but he was holding it
like this and he was like Idon't know what I'm doing the
whole river.
I'm explaining to him like hey,look at me, hold it like this
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and he would be like, and hewould just move his hand back
backwards under the paddle andjust like would struggle to
paddle.
And I'm like you're hand backbackwards under the paddle and
just like would struggle topaddle and I'm like you're doing
it wrong the whole time.
And then the other, the otherkids, they were like we should
throw him in and I'm like, let,let's be kind.
And they're like I don't careand they like they.
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They threw him in into thewater and we're like at like a
really shallow part wherethere's a lot of rocks and it's
so funny, he like falls in andhe is struggling because he
doesn't have good balance andhe's a little bit on the heavier
side and he doesn't know how toswim.
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He has a life jacket, obviously, but he's like freaking out,
get me back in the boat.
And he like falls over buttcrack out showing everyone and
he's just like can't get up.
And then I obviously have toget him in and I'm struggling
and I'm like trying to yank himbut I'm like, hey, dude, you
gotta help me out.
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You got to like move and he'slike moving his legs.
But the more he moves his legsup and down like, the more his
shorts start squiggling down so.
I'm just like, oh my gosh, Ijust yanked him and everyone
else is just laughing and I'mlaughing so hard I can't paddle.
These kids aren't paddlingbecause we're just dying.
And he, he just sits down andhe's like um we, we would hit
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rocks, buffalo rock, and he'slike I'm having the best time.
But you could tell he was beingso sarcastic.
This is the most fun I've everhad and he gets in the boat and
he's like it was so fun.
Please push me back in againand he's just being so sarcastic
he did not enjoy it.
And then we hit like the fallsand he is like holding the
paddle like this wrong the wholetime and that was one of my
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like best trips down and he wasjust so funny funny butt cracks.
You see them a lot, oh yeah oh,yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, you get a lot of indecent exposure um Any more
questions?
Did anybody send any morequestions?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Let's check, okay.
Someone asked how do you know,or how did you know, that the
Lord called you to work at SWO?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I think you both kind of already answered that in
your intro story, which wasreally cool to.
For me it was really cool tohear it again.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I think for me too, like I kind of went from early
high school to where, like Ididn't struggle with much, and
then later on in high school Ikind of got like mixed up I
don't want to say with the wrongcrowd, like good kids, but I
just, you know, wasn't reallyliving for the Lord, wasn't
living a very fruitful life.
And I remember my old youthpastor sent me either like the
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at the time servant teamapplication or the staff
application, and it was like mysenior year of high school.
I remember it kind of in myhead being like I'm not doing
that, like it's my senior summer, I've beach trips planned and
all this stuff.
I always think I'm like dang,what could have been if I had
just like gone then, um, andthen it's crazy, just like a
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year later of like I went tocollege and was just kind of hit
with like reality, of like Ithink I was kind of living in
the shadow of my parents faith,um, and I went to the same
church my whole life.
So like church was just more oflike a social thing.
You know, I I never really hadto make faith my own until I
went to a college town where Iknow, I knew nobody and nobody
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was holding me accountable to goto church, um.
And then then that's when I waslike, okay, I need to, I need
to get my eyes together, I needto do something.
And then I applied for Snowbirdand I was honestly scared.
I was like I don't know if I'mgoing to get in, and then just
like prayed through that andlike, like I kind of said before
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, I think beforehand, I was like, yeah, I don't know where I'll
work maybe wind shape, maybeother camps but like as soon as
I got the call or like the email, whatever it was, I was like,
oh, I'm going there.
I think it just did hold a verylike special place in my heart
because I came as a camper, um,I don't know, I think that's
just really cool, just beinglike man, I was a camper and I
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work here like I would have havenever thought I don't know
crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But that's kind of more detailed With your story.
I would say I hope parentswould be encouraged by this that
you went off to college.
You were a kid who was aChristian.
You were raised in a Christianhome.
I know your folks.
They're people who love theLord.
They love their girls.
They're not perfect, little,and aren't perfect.
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No, there's no perfect parents.
God himself is the only perfectfather.
And let me say to parents it's ascary thing to turn your kid
loose to go to school or to themilitary or off to the mission
field, whatever.
And we see a lot of parentshang up or hold up their kids
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from coming and faithfullyserving the Lord here.
We especially see it withelement kids, high school kids.
The thought of turning your kidloose for a summer when they're
in high school and you feellike that biological family
clock is ticking and this ismaybe the last summer you're
going to have them at home.
I will tell you that if youwill entrust your kid to the
Lord, um, the way Hannah didwith Samuel, the most gratifying
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thing is is to watch your kidwalk in in obedience to God's
call on their life and, um, andI'm thankful for um jb's story
that, uh, when she got to schoolshe wasn't exactly walking
where she needed to be walking,but god was faithful to the
salvation he had given her andif, if a kid has put their faith
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in jesus, they're gonna be justfine.
I would just tell you thatdon't, don't worry about it,
don't I?
That as parents, we tend tohang up on things.
Everyone y'all don't see,there's three dudes sitting in
the room right now, all whoseparents have supported them
being here, and they're allyoung men now and they're in
adulthood, but in thattransitional.
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So there's five people in theroom besides me all who I would
attribute their success incoming here partly to their
parents being willing to letthem follow God's call on their
lives.
Sure, and I would just I wouldencourage parents that if you
feel like you've got a kid thatis in the least bit inclined to
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go serve the Lord, even ifthey're in high school, do it Um
, inclined to go serve the Lord,even if they're in high school,
do it Um, and you will neverI've never talked to a parent of
a, of an adult child, who looksback and says, man, I wish I
hadn't let my kids serve at SWOor go to the mission field or
spend a year in the Institute.
It'll, it'll, it'll changetheir lives and um and.
But then, on that, on the otherside of that token, when they
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go off to school, just trustthem, trust the Holy Spirit in
them to guide them the way hedid in JB's story.
You don't have to worry.
I think parents worry and freakout and try to control so much
and you don't have to do that.
Just trust the Lord.
So it's a good word.
What else?
What else?
We got Any more questions?
Yes, it's a good word.
What else?
What else we got Any morequestions?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yes, someone asked about how it looks like to share
or be a Christian in theathletic area of life.
So I think, like in sports,this person is in high school
and just asking how it lookslike to follow the Lord in that
area.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
So yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I mean, does one of y'all want to tackle that?
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I wasn't a believer until I was 18 and out of high
school.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
So you swam.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, I was about to say I would always, um, I was a
captain my junior and senioryear of high school swim and,
like I mentioned previously, itwas like I was, I was a believer
, and I said that I was abeliever, but at times, like I
said, I just wasn't living likereally fruitfully or really
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faithfully.
But, um, I, I've always justfelt like very passionate, like
if I'm put in a position ofleadership, like I'm gonna, I
guess, like capitalize on it, Ijust really, I don't know, I
like that feeling of like beingable to just, you know, lead
people well.
And so I was a captain and sowe would have like a chant.
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It's like a thing I don't knowif it's a thing in like all swim
teams, but in my town each swimteam had like a chant right
before the meet started whateverso the whole team's together
and after we would do the chant.
I would just like pray reallyquickly in between, like right
after the chant, and theneveryone would disperse.
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And I grew up in a prettyconservative town but I remember
there was a boy who like reallypushed back on.
That was like I don'tunderstand why we all have to
pray before the meet.
And I mean I had a goodconversation with him.
I was like by all means, youdon't have to stay, it's not
mandatory.
And I know things with likeschool and religion can get
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weird, but I think like the mostimportant thing, just in school
or friend groups or sports orwhatever it is, it's like just
living faithfully and like a lotof times you don't have to say
a prayer or have to have a Biblestudy Granted, those things are
good.
A prayer or have to have aBible study Granted, those
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things are good.
You know that quote.
That's like sometimes you don'thave to use words when sharing
the gospel.
I don't fully agree with thatbecause I think-.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
But there's a principle there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
But anyways.
So I've had some people reachout to me post high school.
I've been out of high schoollike five years and people have
reached out to me and just beenlike hey, I just really
appreciated what a true friendyou were.
Or like even my parents anytime.
People would spend the nightwith us on Friday or Saturday
night, that next Sunday we'regoing to church, you're more
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than welcome to come with us.
So just stuff like that of justbeing faithful and being true
and genuine and a lot of timeslike that will just kind of open
doors to gospel conversations,just because your life, you're
living your life differently.
You're not gossiping, you'renot being rude, you're not
cussing, you know I mean, ifyou're in high school you know
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everyone's going one way andit's not the best way, you know.
So it's like I think a lot oftimes people are like I'm scared
to stand up or do somethingdifferent.
Um, but that's kind of likewhat I've thought about and
that's good.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I like that.
Uh, the little intro and outrologo on that show, the chosen,
where it's like a circle of fish, a school of fish and then
there's a few fish swimming theother way.
I thought of that when you saidthat, and I appreciate what you
said about.
If you're an athlete, first off, that's not your identity,
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that's not who you are.
If it's your identity, you'regoing to have an identity crisis
when that sport stops, and soit's not who you are.
It's something you do, and Iwould encourage you to do it to
the best and fullest of yourability.
The Bible says uh, paul, paul,and, and right into the
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Corinthians, I think it's.
I remember it was first, secondCorinthians, 10, 31,.
Whatever you do, do it all tothe glory of God.
Whether you eat or you sleep,whatever you do, do it all to
the glory of God.
And what that means is becausethat needs some definition what
does it mean to play basketballto the glory of God?
It means to give 100%.
It means to not let it defineyour joy.
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Okay, listen close.
Doing that sport fully to theglory of God doesn't mean you
win a championship, get in frontof the camera and give praise
and glory to God.
That may be something thathappens and that's awesome.
But what if you're on a teamthat only wins three games?
What if you never get thecamera in front of you?
What if you never have theopportunity to speak that way?
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Back to what JB was sayingabout that.
I think it's Aquinas that saidthat.
Either a Beckett or Aquinas,it's the.
The saying goes preach thegospel always, when, when
necessary, use words.
We, what we do, is we tweakthat a little bit and we say
well, you always use words topreach the gospel, but then let
your nonverbal action beconsistent with the message
you're preaching.
And so, when you're on the when, consistent with the message
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you're preaching.
And so when you're on the, whenyou're on the court or you're
on the field, you should playwith a reckless, savage abandon.
I mean, you should be the mostintense, hardworking athlete on
the, on the court or the field,or in the pool or on the mat,
but then, as soon as thatevent's over, it's done, you
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give it to the lord, you leaveit on the mat, and that doesn't
define who you are.
You may go home frustrated froma loss, but it doesn't define
your joy, your happiness, andthen you be the best teammate.
You can be your person whoencourages others, who picks
them up.
If they're on your team, youhelp them, you encourage them,
you strengthen them.
If they're on the other team,you help them, you encourage
them, you strengthen them.
If they're on the other team,you do everything you can to
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defeat them, but then youexpress gratitude for
competition and you don't seethem as an enemy.
You see them as an opponent ina game, and so it's about
attitude and work ethic anddoing everything you do for
God's glory.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I also think another thing, kind of going back in
that is like having respect foryour teammates and for your
coaches.
I feel like that's a huge thingthat I saw people talking
behind their back around and Iknow that there's some rotten
coaches who stink, but it'sstill like they're placed in
authority over you and you needto respect them and respect
their authority.
I think that's also a huge likeeven moments when I swam in
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high school or whenever, likethere would be times I'd be
ticked off at my coach and likeother people would just have
respect and it would convict meof like I need to have respect
for them and show them honor andgratitude, and I think that's
also a good way that you canjust, you know, kind of go
against the the groove of otherpeople.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
What was the?
What event?
Were you swimming when yousmashed your face into the wall?
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Y'all should see this picture.
The picture no.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
I'll try to see if I can like link it in the
description.
But when I was in high school Ibroke my nose, literally right
here on the bridge of my nose,perfectly even, like raccoon
black eyes, and it was justduring practice and my event was
backstroke.
So like two days a week wewould have like our stroke days
where we would focus on ourspecialized stroke and I'm doing
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underwater breakout kicks so wehave fins on, so you're going a
little bit faster.
And if you've ever been to apool you know those flags.
Those are there forbackstrokers.
Underwater breakout kicks, sowe have fins on, so you're going
a little bit faster.
And if you've ever been to apool, you know those flags.
Those are there forbackstrokers, so you can tell,
okay, I'm X amount of strokesfrom the wall, so I know when to
you know finish or whatever.
(47:09):
And so we're doing breakouts,underwater breakouts, and I'm
trying to go the whole length ofthe pool without coming up for
air and I see the flag so I likestart to come up and then I'm
like not like just finish strong, so I kind of dive back under,
but I literally dove right intothe wall face first yeah, face
first nose first nose first andmy goggles like snapped I think
my goggles is like what reallydid it?
(47:29):
but smashed into my eyes, brokemy nose just like a perfect
crack.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Um, but the picture is hilarious so anybody that
doesn't think swim is a violentyeah brutal sport.
Where do you see these pictures?
Speaker 3 (47:43):
yeah, I remember my coach being like this is a no
contact sport.
How did you break your face?
Speaker 4 (47:47):
but yeah, leave it to jb I'll leave it to j JB.
It's stupid, I think on the flipside of you know, being a
believer in sports, like I didsports in high school and in
middle school, but I wasn't abeliever.
But they, like the coaches orother teammates, were like
(48:09):
similar to JB, very conservativetown, they very high views of
Christianity in Plant City, andbefore every game someone was
praying.
And looking back now Iappreciate it and even then,
like there was somethingdifferent about that prayer,
(48:32):
like even though I, like, grewup in a household where we
believed in God but we triedeverything, every single church
possible, and it was just reallyencouraging to know like, oh,
we're praying before a game orwe're praying, you know, to
encourage each other.
(48:53):
Even though I wasn't a believer, I was still like we all love
the Lord, not a believer, andyou know, and even running, I
can remember just being likeLord, give me strength as I'm
running a football field,suicide for soccer, and like I
do appreciate those teammateswho would go out of their way to
(49:16):
pray or just encourage us andlike an encouragement to other
athletes, like keep being thatperson that doesn't compromise
their faith just because you'rein sports, just because you want
to be cool with your teammates,like, like you said, like being
an athlete is not your identity.
Your identity is in Christ.
(49:36):
So be a light in your sport.
And it does encouragenonbelievers.
Oh, they're constantly joyful,oh, we lost.
But it doesn't seem to phasethem Because at the end of the
day, win or lose, it's not forour glory like it's for the lord
(49:59):
, and you know that's not whereidentity lies in.
And I remember losing games andbeing like I suck, you know, and
I was not like a good athlete.
Well, like I think I gave 100every time I was playing, but I
don't think I was like any good,but I still would feel like
(50:19):
dang, I need to be the best.
For why?
You know, like I wasn't goingto go to college, why do I want
to be the best?
And it was just for like self.
You know, self-glory, you know,just to have some praise from
other people and it wasn't worthit.
Self-glory, you know, just tohave some praise from other
people and it wasn't worth it,but thankful for those teammates
.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
When you're playing 100% for the glory of the Lord,
just to reflect on his character, you end up being better at the
sport really because you takethe pressure off of performing
so you get the approval ofpeople.
I like the idea of just gatherteammates Anybody that wants to.
We're going to pray before thegame.
If it's not a team where thecoach encourages that, I'm going
(51:00):
to have prayer before the game.
Lately used to do a Bible studybefore all of our games, but it
was early enough before thegame that people didn't have to
come, so maybe some of thoseopportunities.
All right, we got any morequestions?
Speaker 4 (51:15):
I think those well some of the questions is
basically what we talked about.
Somebody asked what was anembarrassing story.
Okay, we have any of those.
I have plenty, me too oh gosh Icould tell embarrassing stories
about both of you.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
Don't go ahead brady, have you ever heard the story
of?
Do you remember when brandonentry used to have that like
motorized bicycle?
oh yes, okay, so I was there,yes, yes, three men.
So I came in.
It wasn't.
It was during like the year ortwo years that I took off, but I
would still come in workretreats, you know, and I I
(51:52):
think it was a marriageconference and I came in to
watch, I think, the Garner kidsand um, during rec they'd come
home to hang out with their kids, so they're like you can go
hang out, whatever.
So I go to camp to hang out.
See my friends.
This is so funny, it's so funnyand so Brandon is over there at
the three-man swing with thismotorized bike and I'm like,
(52:13):
like Brandon, can I ride thatthing?
Keep in mind, it's like anadult conference.
So I'm, you know, we try to bea little bit more mature, we're
not as like ah.
And so I'm like, can I ride thatthing?
And it's in that big field bythe three-man swing and you know
, there's like cornhole andspike ball and like different
yard games set up.
And so he's like, yeah, sure,come over here, hop on.
(52:34):
But it it didn't work like anormal bike, like the brake and
stuff was like a gear that youturned.
But he didn't tell me any ofthis, he just like was holding
it and then as soon as I got onhe let go of it.
I didn't know how to brake, Ididn't know how to stop, I don't
know how to accelerate.
My legs are straight, Icouldn't even put them brake.
I didn't know how to stop, Ididn't know how to accelerate.
My legs are straight, Icouldn't even put them on the
(52:55):
pedals.
And in my brain I was goingreally fast, but I probably was
going pretty slow.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
You were Okay.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Well, in my brain I'm like flying through this field
and there's like a poor coupletrying to play cornhole.
I like go in between them andthen I'm like trying to stop and
I run over a spike ball thing,crack snaps like, and that's
what broke my fall, Cause I gotcaught up in the tire and then I
just fell off the bike.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
I remember I was so embarrassed and it was so funny.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
It was weird Cause it was like half the people were
interns that I hadn't reallyworked with, so I didn't know
them.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
And then, I just know they probably were like who?
Speaker 3 (53:29):
is this chick Like?
Who is she?
Speaker 2 (53:31):
That would have been your first intern year, Lisa.
Yeah, it was Fall of 22.
Oh my gosh, Two years ago.
Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yeah, geez, I remember one time this was last
summer we were doing the openerand I was part of the opener
with Zay, because you know stompteam.
Here we go.
But not really so.
Our opener opener, if y'allcame of summer of 23, we'd come
out on stage and you know, onegroup was on the left side,
another group was on the rightside and we're kind of like
(53:58):
battling on stage for like who'sthe coolest, who dances better?
And it's me against zay andwe're like, oh, and then I push
him, like that's the whole partof the, the opener skate on
monday night.
Like I push him and I'm likewhat's's up, like what's going
on?
We're better.
And then I have like my crew ofbackup dancers behind me hyping
me up, and then he has his crew, but I, in front of like 500
(54:24):
people on stage, I lose myfooting and I push day and I'm
like like backing up and I tripand I fall on my butt in front
of everyone and I'm just like onthe ground.
It's so embarrassing but AJ andReed are dragging, trying to
pick.
One's trying to pick me up andone's trying to get me out of
the way because you know Zay'sabout to go do a back.
(54:47):
No, day is Day's about to comeand do the back flip.
And they're like Issa day'sabout to come and do the
backflip and they're like isa'sgonna get hurt.
So they're trying to like pickaj's like get up.
And it's like trying to pick meup while reed is just dragging
me like I'm just being draggedfrom the middle of the stage
away from like everyone, andit's so embarrassing and I get
up and right when day does thebackflip, like everyone kind of
(55:07):
jumps up and starts dancing andI like get up and I'm like I
can't crawl.
I like literally just run backthere and, funny enough, austin,
or whoever was filming thatnight filmed the whole thing.
We might have to link it withyour picture we might have to
(55:28):
link it with your picture, butit's just me like falling and
they're trying to drag me off.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
And then it was so embarrassing that's perfect,
because I was going to ask uh,have you seen the, the footage?
Because I have.
Speaker 4 (55:42):
So, yeah, yes, and it's just me falling and it's so
, so embarrassing.
I'll have to watch it, peoplefalling is funny.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
It is one time little and I went to last story I'll
tell Little and I this is notcamp related, but we went to a
NASCAR race at Bristol andthere's so already funny for
people that didn't grow up inthe South.
So we're at this NASCAR race atthe Bristol race and everybody
gets drunk at a NASCAR race.
(56:09):
Really, yo.
I mean it's worse than footballgames or baseball games.
Little and I were literally theonly sober people in our
section like, and as the racewent on, people get so drunk by
the end there were quite a fewpeople passed out around us, you
know.
So we leave and we're out in theparking lot and there's a.
(56:29):
There's a long steep bank fromthe one parking lot down to a
main divided highway and then wewere parked a mile away, you
know.
So we get to the edge of thatbank and we start walking down
and I realized, oh, this isreally difficult to navigate.
I mean it's steep and peoplewere falling and rolling.
I'm not talking about one ortwo.
We watched.
(56:50):
We sat there for an a half anhour, for 30 minutes.
We just sat and watched peopleroll.
I bet we saw over 300 peoplefall and roll down that because
they're all drunk.
They already can't walk.
They started trying to go downthis steep bank and they would
fall and they would roll.
This bank was probably half afootball field.
It's probably 50 yards long thecheese competitions oh yeah oh,
(57:14):
that's what I'm envisioning.
Speaker 3 (57:15):
That's about what it looked like.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Was it one of y'all that said it's on your bucket
list to go watch that it's inIreland, right?
Speaker 3 (57:23):
I want to do it.
I want to be the cheese.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
You are the cheese, all right.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
Thank y'all.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Queso.
Speaker 4 (57:34):
I made flan tonight.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Que chistoso.
Speaker 4 (57:37):
Que chistoso.
Next NSR, we'll be doing it inSpanish.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
I'm just kidding, okay.
Speaker 4 (57:43):
Hola, bienvenidos a no Sanity Required.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
I haven't translated it.
Adios, hasta luego, all right,thank y'all for coming.
We'll do this again.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
Yeah, should we gritty out?
Should everyone get a?
Speaker 2 (57:55):
camera.
You should definitely grittyout.
You do that better than anybody.
Speaker 3 (57:58):
I know I was thinking we all look at a camera and
smile with our thumbs up.
Okay, All right, should I look?
You look, middle birdie, thatone I'll do that Okay.
Speaker 4 (58:07):
Three, two, one.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
We're shut.
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