March 25, 2025 • 34 mins
This week, we tackle movie theater photographers, black coffee, dirty jeans, trebuchets, and more as we answer questions submitted by listeners.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Anny, I'm Noah, and this is no such thing.
The show where we settle our dumb arguments and yours
by actually doing the research. Today's episode is a mailbag episode.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Will we're talking about black coffee, movie theater etiquette and more.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I No, there's no no such thing, no such thing such, thank, thank.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Thank.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Before we dip into the mail bag, we wanted to
quickly discuss a topic that we've seen online a lot
these days.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It has to do with a movie theater etiquette, and
specifically it has to do with taking photos of the
screen during the movie. What are your guys' thoughts.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
There's no there is literally no good reason to do this.
There's zero, even if sorry, even if you're like doing
your best with your brightness down and trying to be
so discreet, no reason.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think it's yeah, I agree, I think it's crazy.
I think it just shows that, like, you know, the
people who are doing this, y'all don't go to the
movies often.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
You're not you're not real cinephiles like.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Us, because a real movie head once you get into
that thing, once the movie starts, you putting your phone away,
D and D silent, the whole reason. I'm at the
movie theater and so I don't have to be on
my phone exactly. If it's an emergency, step yass outside
the theater. Take the caller text. We are here to
(01:39):
remove ourselves from the outside world. If you want to
take pictures of your screen, you could do that at home.
I do it. I watch Love Island. That take pictures
of it's Love Island. I'm at home. Sure am allowed
to be on my phone? We are taking pictures of
the screen at a movie theater recording it? Like, what
are we doing boot legs again?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
What it gets me is the famous thing about movies,
more than any other medium.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Is that the movie is the same.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yes, so you can find a screenshot of that scene. Yes,
you can find a poster, and even at the theater,
there's other things about the movie. You can take a
photo of the marquee, there's a thing before the door,
there's posters. It's like, there's a million other things to
take a photo if you must document it.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Right there.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
The movie is the same, So like you're not You're
you're not getting an original photo, You're getting a horribly lit.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Version of this.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
First of all, you think Christopher Nolan is happy with
this photo disgusting.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, do what we do? You know when we go
see Sonic.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah, every couple of years we go see Sonic.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
We stand outside of the movie theater and we take
a group photo of the poster of us in front
of the poster. Isn't that such a wow?
Speaker 5 (02:48):
It's nice.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's a beautiful thing to look at.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Now some dirty, weird things. Lord knows what angle you're
at here.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You know, somebody's head is in front of me.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
In the movie theater. Be original and for who? Yeah,
who is this for? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Well, no one's impressed by this. Oh, you went to
a movie.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
So I agree with both of them.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I agree with both of you, even if if I
would go so far as to support policies at movie
theaters to where you have to put your phone in
the little zip. Oh yeah, so that we don't we're
not all agreeing on this. I'll play Devil's advocate a
little bit here, just to mix it up. So I personally,
I don't mind. When it's the very beginning of the
(03:30):
movie the title card comes up. We're now in a
society where like people, you know, I don't think anyone's
trying to show you a unique frame that's only in
their screening. I think they're trying to tell you that
they're at the movies, which we're.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
A little bit older. That's lame to us.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's kind of like when people would post photos of
their meals that they were eating.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's just not interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
But if I'm like in the theater it's the first
title card, someone's like sneaking a pick. That has to
be that's important. They have to be sneaking a pick,
don't be Yeah, I don't mind that so much. And
in fact, if I was going to see a very
dumb movie like like a King Kong or something like that,
I've done that. I think on a few occasions to
(04:11):
be to post it and be like, look at this
stupid thing I'm doing. But of course I think like
if it's a serious movie or anything where that you
want to pay attention to or uh, you know you got,
you can't just be so abrasive about it. I sometimes
see people like texting full conversations. I was at I
(04:33):
went to go see Chicago on Broadway recently, there's a
couple in front of me texting each other, and that
blew my mind. It's like, what the fuck did you
spend this money for your attor just not experiencing.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well, that's what's crazy is again we're moving away from
the photo thing.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
But like I'll be at a at a screening of
something and I'll see someone by themselves.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Sitting scrolling their phone.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
It's like, why do you you know when it's not
like it's not like you got dragged your partner or something,
and now you're in this boring ass movie, which again
you still shouldn't do that, but it's like, all right,
I get it. You don't want to be here, but
you have to be go.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
To the lot, Like this is that metrograph. There's a
bar there in a restaurant. You can go sit out there.
It's a lot more comfortable the photo thing. I disagree
with it, but I understand it.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, sitting there on your phone scroll and
like it's not like, oh I need to fire off
a text.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah maybe I come away from work early. Yeah yeah,
let me check my stug.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Oh I need to respond to this thing, say okay, whatever.
I understand why someone might need to do that. I
think it's dumb and it's planning on your part, but
like you're just scrolling Instagram in the like that just
means your brain is your brain.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Is literally broken.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
The movie ends up being like Subway Runners or whatever
the TikTok, where like you have to have.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Two things happening at the same time.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
It's sad. It makes me sad.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Then you just don't go to the like finally that
person don't go to.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's crazy too because most people don't have like a
regal pass situation like us movies.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You're expensive.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
They're dropping twenty thirty bucks to be there and be
on their phones, which is crazy. But yeah, I think
like if I'm at the Regal Essex watching Transformers or something,
I don't mind that much. If people are like getting
their picks off.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well yeah, I think that's what you know, with all
any kid stuff, It's like it depends on what.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
How mad am I going to get about this?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
You know, we saw Sonic three, for example, there was
some dad with a bunch of kids.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, he doesn't want to be there.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, it's like and listen, it's a kid's movie. I
shouldn't be there.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I'm a grown ass.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
And then like the kids are running around. Yeah, that's
fine with me. Obviously they're kids.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, they're talking, and the dad.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Was there watching Premier League on his phone, which, like,
I think that's kind of crazy, Like it's nuts.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I don't think you should do that.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But it was like, also, like, what am I going
to do go confront this dad about watching Premier League
during Sonic three?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's like, No, I have an issue with this, and
with a lot of things, but I think this is
the movie example of it of people just like the
idea of doing the thing they like, projecting that they're
at the thing that they're doing the thing, without actually
enjoying or investing any amount of energy into the thing
that they're doing. Like, this is the thing that drives
(07:14):
me crazy when people go to concerts. I've been in
concerts where you're spending like one hundred bucks to get
in the door. Yeah, and then they sit there and
talk the entire time while the not even while the
opener is there, while the person who you paid to
see perform is performing. Yeah, you're talking.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
People would rather it be the case that their friends
know that they're at a show versus actually want to
be at the show. Yes, it's like I'm buying this
ticket as to communicate something socially yes to people, versus
wanting to listen to.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
They don't actually care himself.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, and I know we sound like extremely old men,
but that's I.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Mean, seeing people arguing about this online and it'll be like,
you know, there'll be some zoomers saying like, oh, like
we're trying to document the thing.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
It's like you're not documented anything.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
It's like it's like seeing baby Girl. It's like, again,
clearly you probably aren't connecting with the movie that much
if you're taking a photo of it, even if it's
at the beginning. It's like, just just sit there, just
watch the thing.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Especially today.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I mean this kind of goes back to the episode
we did about banning phones. It's like today we're on
our phones all day. You can't take two hours less
than that often just sit.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
There, screenshot your letterbox exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
That's well, that's more interesting because at least then I
get an opinion with.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
It, information from it.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yeah, it's like like this blur.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I've never been like seeing someone post a story of
a theater shot and thought it enhanced anything that they
I wouldn't have gone from if they said I just
saw this movie yep, Like it opens a conversation of like, oh,
what do you think it's the same thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I even like when people will post a screenshot of
them like picking their seats, like sometimes that you see
the name of the movie at the top. All right,
this person's going there. That's what they really want to communicate.
But they're also not disrupting their actual cinema goers by
taking their bride ass phone out and taking a picture
of the screen. Now, it's one thing to like do
(09:18):
that sometimes as like a Twitter bit. It's a whole
other thing for these people to be arguing that you
should be allowed to or like that it's it should
be socially acceptable.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah, if you do it, if you do it whatever.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
That's one thing I don't really see how you can
actually argue that it's.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
A good.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
People have been trying, which is listen.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
If any listeners out there do this or want to
defend this, please please send me a detailed email with
your what's actually going through your head and why this
couldn't be better served by a screenshot or something else.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I think it probably proliferated during like the rise of
snapchat or those be real kind of apps where it's like, like,
we have to know what you're doing every moment of
your day.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It's a sad state of affairs.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, but in the effort of not ranting about this
for another hour, yeah, well kind of a So what
are some emails we've been getting?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yeah, let's let's move on.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'm worked up, all right.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
So this is a lighter one is from our listener, Jennifer.
Thank you, Jennifer.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Deceptively simple, but this came up between me and my husband,
and we have since learned it can cause massive and
passionate divides in any group of people. You ask it
to Wow, all right, strap in. You walk into a
coffee shop and order a coffee one sugar, no milk.
Is this a black coffee? In other words, does black
refer to the color, in which case yes, or is
(10:42):
this more of a metaphysical descriptor in which black means pure, untouched, undiluted,
in which case no. In this case, I can tell
you that there is a correct answer, and it is
what I believe, whereas my husband's belief is wrong. And
now Jennifer and I checked the original email, she'd not
say which one which I like is I don't want
to be biased because I obviously agree with all my listeners.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't drink coffee, but I think that what first
of all, are people putting when you get coffee, they're
putting sugar in it for you?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Well, usually sometimes I guess a drive through situation, yeah, okay,
like goose scenarios where people are doing the sugars and creams.
You know, you go to McDonald's and you order coffee,
they ask how many creamy sugars or like, I'll say like,
and you do need to be intentional because if you
go to I remember going to Duncan asking just for
(11:34):
a small coffee or something, and they the default is
with sugar and cream for hot coffee. And I was
pretty deserved once when that happened, because I would assume
default is just yeah, you got to act if it's
for a hot coffee. But yeah, but I think maybe
Duncan probably enough people getting coffee there wanted that.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I'm a newcomer to coffee.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I've only been drinking coffee for like maybe a year now,
but I've never described it as black. What I'll do
at a coffee shops, I'll just bet can I have
a drip with X Y and Z in it, So
I've never thought about it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
But like when you're getting.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
We're feedting with X, Y and Z, then you wouldn't
be ordering a black coffee, right.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
But when Mia gets she only gets quote unquote black.
But she'll just say, can I have a drip?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Maybe English thing?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But does she put what you what do you get
in your coffee?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Like usually oat milk?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
We're not not even I'm a black coffee.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Well I'm a I'm a drinker of black coffee.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'm a black.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But the reason I bring that up is like I've
never thought about describing it as that.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I gotta.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I feel for her husband, assuming he's the one that
thinks it's the color black, so I'm gonna call it
a black coffee. I feel for him, But he's wrong
because I think everyone refers to black as like, don't
do anything to it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I agree with Yeah, I think black is pure. Just
when I get my tea, I think of it. I
don't say black, but I think if it's a black,
I don't get no sugar, I don't get no milk.
Just just give me the thing.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, I think about it even literally when you go
to order it. Why would you say a black coffee
with sugar when you could just say a coffee with sugar.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
The black is, of course referring in some ways to
the color, but a black coffee should be understood to
be just the coffee.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
One real quick thing.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I also, I don't hear like, no one really says
black unless you're like being served, like at a diner.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah, he could hold them off from bringing over the
tray of the creams and sugars.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And then that's in that instance it's useful for the establishment.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, do people use it as a quick way to
say no milk?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I would say sugar is in there too, like if
you're ordering black coffee, yeah, but milk is definitely more
disturbing to it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah. But I'm saying because if I'm ordering, you know,
if I'm make believe me, ordering a coffee, if I'm saying, hey,
give me a black coffee with two sugars, then it's like,
I don't want milk in that coffee. Don't ask me
what type of milk I want, just put two sugars.
So now I'm kind of going in the other direction.
Although I think black is nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
But if you said to the barista, give me a
coffee with two sugars. You're saving yourself a millisecond.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
They might then be.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Milk. That's what I'm asking.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
It is a shortcut.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
So I mean, I think there's a case to be made.
I think though, if we're defining terms, there's no way
I can really say, you know, when we drill down
to it, the black coffee, in essence is just the coffee.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah. Do we have any baris differends?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I used to be a barista, okay you Yeah, Well,
if if someone asked a black coffee, I wouldn't be like,
do you want sugar or.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Anything in that?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Okay? You would assume that may nothing.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
No, And I mean the coffee shop I worked out
was you got your own sugars, okay, So that takes
off my head.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's just different kind.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Of depends on the ven.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
So, I mean, I think it's like, I don't blame
the server for if they're in charge of adding the sugars.
They're just being They're trying to be helpful by asking
these things. I would never assume theyre this person is
probably gonna want this. But it's more like I'm making
I'm saying, hey, if you don't need anything, it's gonna
be right over there.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
My expectations of a barista if I said I went
on black coffee would be they would not put anything
in it.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Or like yeah, or think like you're putting in a
bagel order you know you're on an app or whatever
you put in.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
All right, here's my bagel, cream cheese, locks.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I'm gonna get a coffee if I don't put in
the notes add cream and sugar, yep, or I put
in the notes black.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah, I'm not expecting.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Sugar anywhere near that coffee, whether in it or on
the side or no.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
You know, so, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I mean, it sounds like all three of us are
not necessarily mad at mister husband's stance, but.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, we don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah, you're assuming. I'm pretty Jennifer, I don't know where
you stand.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm pretty comfortable with the idea that she said she
thinks black coffee has nothing in it because of the
way she described that stance. But I think I'm not
necessarily mad at the person who thinks that it's that
you can have sugar coffee. But I don't agree with them.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I agree with that, And I think your expectations should
be you're not going to get anything with it. So
if you're okay with that, then you can call it
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Lose You order black coffee at a diner.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
You shouldn't be mad at them if they don't bring sugar.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yes, we'll put a poll in the newsletter for this one.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Please voice voice your concerns.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
And Jennifer, if you hear this, please follow up and
let us know where you stand so we can put
this one to bed.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Even though I already know where you.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Man, he seems to know.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And if your husband knows that he thoughts to send in,
please give him let him and.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
For everyone else listening.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And that's the perfect kind of question for the We're
going to be doing these mailbag episodes, you know, not
that often, but every now and then. And that's a
great question. That's that seems like the plot of a
Curb your Enthusiasm episode.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Up next, we have a question from Cat and this.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
One well I feel like these next two kind of
oh yeah to area outside clothes.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, so this is kind of a follow up or
attachment to our episode on Outside Clothes, which we'll link
as well if you missed it.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
I think that's one of our best episodes. O.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Top here, yeah, top tier of the many episodes you've
put out of the fourteen, top five, fifteen or sixty?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
True? All right?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
The question is from cat? How many times can you
wear jeans before they're dirty? Am I the only one
who wears jeans more than other clothes before washing them? Up?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
With that? You you'd be happy to hear. We had
a very long discussion about this that we actually ended
up cutting from the Outside Clothes episode. We did maybe
ten minutes on jeans.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yep, do it again.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I mentioned in that episode I almost never washed my jeans.
I only wash my jeans when they are dirty, like
there's visible dirt on them or they smell. I am
a firm believer that you do not need to wash
your jeans unless absolutely necessary. So, like these jeans I'm
(18:32):
wearing right now, it's.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Been months, months, months, So how often do you wear those?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Would you say?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
How many wears?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Do you think? Oh, that's a good question, let's say
because like once a week.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yeah, they're in your rotation eight to twelve eight not more.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, I wear yeah, I go in I know, if
I'm washing jeans, it's like, okay, like I went to
the park with yea like a ball dirt Yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
For me, it's it's it's less the dirt, of course,
the dirt thing, but it's more like the stretchiness. Like
you wear pants and then they kind of loosen up
but in a way, and then.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I want to wash. Yeah, well, well we're moving away
from the type jeans you know now.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Huge genes, but during the jagging stage of our youth,
that was a big thing for why women would wash
your genes so often, because like you're saying, if you
don't wash them, then they lose that what do you
call it stretchiness, yeah, elasticity, yeah exactly, and they become
looser on you. Yeah, so when you do watch them,
(19:36):
especially if you draw them, it makes it entire but yeah,
I almost never watched my Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, it ruins your genes.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Yeah, especially I think if I mean I don't have
any like expensive nights genes. But I know people would
like the real raw salvage denom thing. They're really not
washing them, like literally not like maybe dry clean.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
There are two reasons that I'm with Kat here. Number
one is, you know, this could be law assumption, but
you know, jeans are a little thicker, they're harder than
other pants, so I feel like they're more durable. And
I'm like, you, guys, I don't wash them unless they
either have like a stain on them or you know,
(20:14):
it's been a really long time, and I'm like, these
could use a freshening.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Number two is I'm just.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I can't be bothered to like, look at the exact
way you're supposed to wash every item of clothing. Like
some people are like this where they like you pay
attention to like these jeans, Like I can't. You know,
I'm not going to wash them in the correct way,
So I'm going to wash them in the my washing
machine and uh and when I do that, they get
(20:44):
a little tighter, and you know it takes me like
a full week of wearing them to get back to
where they are. Ye.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
So yeah, that's my thinking on this.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I don't like, Yeah, I don't like the fit of
them after their washing.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I did reach out to our friend Jordan, who is
stylish wears clothes. Well, yeah, all right, let's see what
he has to say.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
And this is the world premiere. We've never heard this.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Oh right.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
For me?
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Hey Manny Noah Devin. So to answer the question about jeans,
I feel like you first had to understand the history
of jeans a little bit. People feel like just because
you went to brunch or like stepped on a subway
one time, you have the washer jeans immediately after.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You really don't.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Jeans used to be warned by like farm hands and
like people in coal mines. So you just grabbing I
don't know, a new drink at like the local bar
or something is not an immediate reason that runs in
the Washington and throw your jeans in.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Personally, I think just wear them until they smell. You
have a nose, you're be able to figure it out.
But yeah, you don't need to wash them immediately. You
got a lot of time in there.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That was a great answer.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Next case, yeah, killed it, shut it down.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's funny when he said we gotta talk about the
history of I'm like, well, you pranking us, like.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
You know here some good points.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, now that's a that's a great idea. I didn't
think about what jeans are.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, you talk to you said you saw a CNN.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, and then if you don't trust Jordan or us,
our good friends at CNN wrote an article a few
couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Are good friends.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, who I know, I'm seeing it.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Anderson Cooper Flitzer, Yeah, Jake Tapper, Yeah, Jake.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Anyway, this article, I'll link to it, but it's it's
not super in depth. The main thrust of it is
just that you know, if you're not sweating a lot,
and if you're wearing underwear. Yeah, yeah, which I assume
we typically are, crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It's not even comfortable, No, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
They say you really don't need to watch them much.
They're not getting dirty. Yeah, just from kind of normal use.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah, you're like, as you're clean.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And not like in an extreme situation where you're sweating
a lot or whatever, then you're pretty much good to go.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So good to know.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
I think I think that's about that.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Another thing from this episode to follow up on, because
we did have a friend who had some issues with this,
was about cleaning your sponge in the microwave, which was
recommended by our expert.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
There, doctor Lisa. Apparently people need some instructions.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yes, yeah, your friends Rich, you have to call you
out Rich.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
You might remember from episode one on Audio Doos.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, Rich told us he said he was going to
sue us because he put his our first lawsuit put
the He put the sponge in the microwave, and he
said it almost caught fire because he missed a very
important step, which is first you have to wet the sponge. Yeah,
it's he did not wet the sponge.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
He just putting a dry sponge, which strange because it's
like when are you watching it, Like you're watching your
stuff letting time pass dry. But then you're like, I'm
putting it in there basically right after I watched Yes,
because like I'm like, all right, I'm done washing.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
This is the perfect time to do this.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Now.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
I don't need out, I need it for open Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Isn't the idea that the that seems like common sensor
in the sponge turns into steam to clean it.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And it also prevents it from burning.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, caction fire.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
So here's some you know a lot of people have
said this is like their biggest takeaway from that episode
is that like, ah, maybe I'm not going to do
the things with the bed, but I will sponge, so
wet your sponge. Step one. Also make sure that you're
not putting any sort of metal short of sponges in
the right way if that should be common sense. But
let's just say here any more lawsuits. Yeah, and then
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you can put it in anywhere between one and two minutes.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
It's going to be hot when you take it out.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
It's going to be hot.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Sit there, get some gloves.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Not grab it immediately, give it some time, give it
about ten minutes, fifteen minutes before you grab it out,
so we don't get that lawsuit either.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Our legal council is right next to us.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
What's funny too, is I was in researching just to
make sure that we were telling people to write information.
In about twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, there was a scientific
study about, you know, how much germs are being killed
during this and then the New York Times did an
article about that, and people were writing articles as recent
(25:13):
as last year saying don't microwave your sponge. And I
was like, whoa old, don't microwave your sponge. So I
click on your article and they're like, don't microwave your sponge.
Because microwaving your sponge only kills the worst bacteria, it
doesn't kill all of it. I'm like, Okay, that's exactly
what I thought. I didn't think putting it in the
microwave means it's a brand new sponge. That's like saying,
(25:36):
don't wash your hands because you're not going to get
rid of all of the germs, just the worst germs.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
So was it like clickbaity or was it more like
they were.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
About three or four. I don't understand. I guess they
thought that. Well, look, there's also the other thing of right,
just because your microwave your sponge doesn't mean you can
never replace your sponge. You still have to replace your
sponge pretty regularly, you know, like every two weeks or so,
depending on you know, depending on any dish you're watching,
what you're watching, that sort of similar genes. So, yeah,
(26:05):
if you're just microwaving your sponge and then not replacing
your sponge, that's bad. Yeah, but micro waving your sponge
is good because it kills the worst bacteria. Yeah, there
will still be bacteria there, but that's not an excuse
to not Michael waves. It's not killing all of it.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
What is this just like telling someone not to get
a job because it's not going to pay you all
the money.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, some of it.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Small fraction, so that those are instructions for Michael waving
your sponge.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Don't don't feel too bad, rich, but we are making
fun of you.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, we'll be hearing about this in the group. The
text Now, this is an email.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
We got from Lauren about our follow Ups episode Why
men Don't Ask follow up Questions. Lauren writes, my cousin
made up a social experiment called the tribute shay theory.
You're supposed to ask your male partner, out of the blue,
what do you call that thing that's like a catapult
but starts with a t The theory hypothesizes that the
man will respond with the correct answer, a tribute shay.
(27:16):
He will then proceed to ask zero follow up questions
about why you may have wanted or needed this information. However,
he might explain to you unprompted, the difference between a
catapult and a tribute shait. Admittedly, this theory has only
been tested about five times, but the results we got
were undeniable, though I can see it may have just
been indicative of the type of men in our.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Social circles real quick?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Did y'all know?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
So?
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Yeah, I don't ask you guys this. I looked it up.
But do you guys know the difference?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I M?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yeah, really, you haven't heard it?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
No, I knew the term. I didn't know the difference
now to me, it was the same thing.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
But I do know that there are different types of catapults, like, yeah,
the one with the big spoon, yeah, versus one with
like a slingshot situation.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
So this link shot from what I understand is, a
catapult is a device for hurdling projectiles. So that's the
kind of umbrellatibus is a type of catapult that uses
gravity via a counterweight and typically a slink to hurdle
said projectiles. So ABU is a catapult, not all catapults
or tribut shit.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeh see that is such a funny, uh kind of experiment.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I don't know if I would get the answer and then, yeah,
I would, Yeah, I would. I would be like where
are you like, because I'd be like, why are you
talking about?
Speaker 5 (28:32):
No offense to women?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Hey? If one of you sent me to yeah, why
the hell are you? What are you talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, it feels similar to the Roman Empire thing.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, definitely your version, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, so send us other things like this we could
do and try this out with some of your male partners.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Out there and let us know how they respond.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And then yeah, so now lost to wrap up, because
I think it'll be nice given that, you know, there's
a lot of new listeners. We got an early email
from Ryan and he asks, why do I and others
I know feel the need to make a podcast or
TikTok or something like that when there's really nothing interesting
about myself? Probably social validation, I guess, I don't know.
(29:18):
I thought you guys might relate to this. Wow, So
I guess let's start with us, like why do we
want to start a podcast, and then we can broaden it.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Out because you know, we started talking about this podcast
like ten years ago before we actually got off of
our asses to make it. But I think it's the
same reason why we got into media and journalism, which
is like, we like to tell stories or we like
to explain things, and I think this specific podcast helps
(29:49):
us do that. We wouldn't I don't, I mean maybe
now we would, now that more people have listened to
the show and like us, but ten years ago, we
would never have talked about starting a podcast that's just
us talking about yeah random yeah, Like so many people
do start those in all the Power too then because
some of them become really successful.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
But that's not what we were interested in doing.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
We were interested in, like I think, imparting some knowledge
and explaining situations. That's part of why we got into journalism.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I think.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, from my perspective, why I felt like, oh, we
should actually do this is because it felt like something
I would listen to if I were not Yeah, right,
So like when we're making it, that's how I think
about it. It's like I was just feeling like when
I'm going to my podcast app, it's like, is this
doing something different than like another podcast would do it?
And there are times where we are like talking about
(30:41):
a topic where we're like, actually, we shouldn't do this
because this is that podcast.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Yeah yeah, it's not us.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, but it's weird because like I feel like, you know,
obviously we put a lot of hours into this and
I think a lot about this, but like I would
never like a TikTok, Like I don't that is not
interesting to me, Like I don't think about like I
need to put myself into TikTok, like we make tiktoks
for the show.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like we're doing this for specific reason. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And I think as people in media, at least, we're
already trained to know when something is different, like we
wouldn't do this because the Times did it or whatever. Yeah,
and so like, yeah, we've got that kind of layer
to this podcast where it's like there are other podcasts
that explain questions, but I think we do have Like
it's different because of the exact premise. It's like three
(31:31):
friends who are always arguing, who are also journalists.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, and I think to to now broaden it because
I'm assuming Ryan is not working in media, and it's more,
you know, talking about generally, like why someone would want
to start a podcast. I think it's it's because the format,
I think is just generally more casual. It's not like
some random person deciding they're gonna suddenly like write newspaper
or magazine stories or something. Yeah, you know, it's like, yeah,
(31:57):
you can even if you are explaining something in a
journalistic way or whatever, it's it is usually more casual
in tone or whatever. So you listen to a podcast
enough you feel like you know those people or whatever,
and there's that sort of.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Relationship, it feels more attainable.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, and it feels like, oh, I could do this,
Like I think that's how we felt when we.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Did Search Engine for the first time.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yeah too, Like even broader, it's like, I'm sure someone
like why you want to make anything?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
It's like, I'm sure there's some.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Human in like, I don't know, I'm sure Freud writes
about this. I'm just like, you want to make something
and feel it something, you know. So I think it's
all those things. But yeah, I think why you know,
in podcasts or TikTok instead of other mediums, it's like
it's accessible and it also.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Feels personal and personable.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, And I guess a good question to Ryan would be,
it sounds like you're contemplating making something. Are you making it?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Would you be okay with making the thing if nobody
else saw it?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I think that was a big conversation that we had.
It's just like, we can make this thing and there
could be five people listening to it, yea three of
what you are on the podcast?
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, so you know like, yeah, would that still be
to you? Are you doing this with the hopes of
an audience? Yeah, because you know, it's a lot of
work and there's no guarantee that you're gonna have an audience.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, it's a great question though. Yeah, it made me
think a little bit.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Yeah, it's good to reflect.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, someone's like, we don't need another podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
What do you guys exactly? It'll be like, well, yeah,
I like to tell stories.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
I guess that's about it for the mail bag this time.
But there's tons of other great questions. And if you've
already submitted a question and we didn't get to it,
stay in line.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
We might get to it eventually.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Bottles.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, so yeah, don't worry. But yeah, we'll probably do
another one of these in a few weeks. And please
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The show where we settle our dumb arguments and yours
by actually doing the research. Today's episode is a mailbag episode.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Will we're talking about black coffee, movie theater etiquette and more.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I No, there's no no such thing, no such thing such, thank, thank.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Thank.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Before we dip into the mail bag, we wanted to
quickly discuss a topic that we've seen online a lot
these days.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It has to do with a movie theater etiquette, and
specifically it has to do with taking photos of the
screen during the movie. What are your guys' thoughts.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
There's no there is literally no good reason to do this.
There's zero, even if sorry, even if you're like doing
your best with your brightness down and trying to be
so discreet, no reason.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think it's yeah, I agree, I think it's crazy.
I think it just shows that, like, you know, the
people who are doing this, y'all don't go to the
movies often.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
You're not you're not real cinephiles like.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Us, because a real movie head once you get into
that thing, once the movie starts, you putting your phone away,
D and D silent, the whole reason. I'm at the
movie theater and so I don't have to be on
my phone exactly. If it's an emergency, step yass outside
the theater. Take the caller text. We are here to
(01:39):
remove ourselves from the outside world. If you want to
take pictures of your screen, you could do that at home.
I do it. I watch Love Island. That take pictures
of it's Love Island. I'm at home. Sure am allowed
to be on my phone? We are taking pictures of
the screen at a movie theater recording it? Like, what
are we doing boot legs again?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
What it gets me is the famous thing about movies,
more than any other medium.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Is that the movie is the same.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yes, so you can find a screenshot of that scene. Yes,
you can find a poster, and even at the theater,
there's other things about the movie. You can take a
photo of the marquee, there's a thing before the door,
there's posters. It's like, there's a million other things to
take a photo if you must document it.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Right there.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
The movie is the same, So like you're not You're
you're not getting an original photo, You're getting a horribly lit.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Version of this.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
First of all, you think Christopher Nolan is happy with
this photo disgusting.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, do what we do? You know when we go
see Sonic.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah, every couple of years we go see Sonic.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
We stand outside of the movie theater and we take
a group photo of the poster of us in front
of the poster. Isn't that such a wow?
Speaker 5 (02:48):
It's nice.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's a beautiful thing to look at.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Now some dirty, weird things. Lord knows what angle you're
at here.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You know, somebody's head is in front of me.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
In the movie theater. Be original and for who? Yeah,
who is this for? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Well, no one's impressed by this. Oh, you went to
a movie.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
So I agree with both of them.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I agree with both of you, even if if I
would go so far as to support policies at movie
theaters to where you have to put your phone in
the little zip. Oh yeah, so that we don't we're
not all agreeing on this. I'll play Devil's advocate a
little bit here, just to mix it up. So I personally,
I don't mind. When it's the very beginning of the
(03:30):
movie the title card comes up. We're now in a
society where like people, you know, I don't think anyone's
trying to show you a unique frame that's only in
their screening. I think they're trying to tell you that
they're at the movies, which we're.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
A little bit older. That's lame to us.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's kind of like when people would post photos of
their meals that they were eating.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's just not interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
But if I'm like in the theater it's the first
title card, someone's like sneaking a pick. That has to
be that's important. They have to be sneaking a pick,
don't be Yeah, I don't mind that so much. And
in fact, if I was going to see a very
dumb movie like like a King Kong or something like that,
I've done that. I think on a few occasions to
(04:11):
be to post it and be like, look at this
stupid thing I'm doing. But of course I think like
if it's a serious movie or anything where that you
want to pay attention to or uh, you know you got,
you can't just be so abrasive about it. I sometimes
see people like texting full conversations. I was at I
(04:33):
went to go see Chicago on Broadway recently, there's a
couple in front of me texting each other, and that
blew my mind. It's like, what the fuck did you
spend this money for your attor just not experiencing.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well, that's what's crazy is again we're moving away from
the photo thing.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
But like I'll be at a at a screening of
something and I'll see someone by themselves.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Sitting scrolling their phone.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
It's like, why do you you know when it's not
like it's not like you got dragged your partner or something,
and now you're in this boring ass movie, which again
you still shouldn't do that, but it's like, all right,
I get it. You don't want to be here, but
you have to be go.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
To the lot, Like this is that metrograph. There's a
bar there in a restaurant. You can go sit out there.
It's a lot more comfortable the photo thing. I disagree
with it, but I understand it.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, sitting there on your phone scroll and
like it's not like, oh I need to fire off
a text.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah maybe I come away from work early. Yeah yeah,
let me check my stug.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Oh I need to respond to this thing, say okay, whatever.
I understand why someone might need to do that. I
think it's dumb and it's planning on your part, but
like you're just scrolling Instagram in the like that just
means your brain is your brain.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Is literally broken.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
The movie ends up being like Subway Runners or whatever
the TikTok, where like you have to have.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Two things happening at the same time.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
It's sad. It makes me sad.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Then you just don't go to the like finally that
person don't go to.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's crazy too because most people don't have like a
regal pass situation like us movies.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You're expensive.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
They're dropping twenty thirty bucks to be there and be
on their phones, which is crazy. But yeah, I think
like if I'm at the Regal Essex watching Transformers or something,
I don't mind that much. If people are like getting
their picks off.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well yeah, I think that's what you know, with all
any kid stuff, It's like it depends on what.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
How mad am I going to get about this?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
You know, we saw Sonic three, for example, there was
some dad with a bunch of kids.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, he doesn't want to be there.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, it's like and listen, it's a kid's movie. I
shouldn't be there.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I'm a grown ass.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
And then like the kids are running around. Yeah, that's
fine with me. Obviously they're kids.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, they're talking, and the dad.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Was there watching Premier League on his phone, which, like,
I think that's kind of crazy, Like it's nuts.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I don't think you should do that.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But it was like, also, like, what am I going
to do go confront this dad about watching Premier League
during Sonic three?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's like, No, I have an issue with this, and
with a lot of things, but I think this is
the movie example of it of people just like the
idea of doing the thing they like, projecting that they're
at the thing that they're doing the thing, without actually
enjoying or investing any amount of energy into the thing
that they're doing. Like, this is the thing that drives
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me crazy when people go to concerts. I've been in
concerts where you're spending like one hundred bucks to get
in the door. Yeah, and then they sit there and
talk the entire time while the not even while the
opener is there, while the person who you paid to
see perform is performing. Yeah, you're talking.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
People would rather it be the case that their friends
know that they're at a show versus actually want to
be at the show. Yes, it's like I'm buying this
ticket as to communicate something socially yes to people, versus
wanting to listen to.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
They don't actually care himself.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, and I know we sound like extremely old men,
but that's I.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Mean, seeing people arguing about this online and it'll be like,
you know, there'll be some zoomers saying like, oh, like
we're trying to document the thing.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
It's like you're not documented anything.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
It's like it's like seeing baby Girl. It's like, again,
clearly you probably aren't connecting with the movie that much
if you're taking a photo of it, even if it's
at the beginning. It's like, just just sit there, just
watch the thing.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Especially today.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I mean this kind of goes back to the episode
we did about banning phones. It's like today we're on
our phones all day. You can't take two hours less
than that often just sit.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
There, screenshot your letterbox exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
That's well, that's more interesting because at least then I
get an opinion with.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
It, information from it.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yeah, it's like like this blur.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I've never been like seeing someone post a story of
a theater shot and thought it enhanced anything that they
I wouldn't have gone from if they said I just
saw this movie yep, Like it opens a conversation of like, oh,
what do you think it's the same thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I even like when people will post a screenshot of
them like picking their seats, like sometimes that you see
the name of the movie at the top. All right,
this person's going there. That's what they really want to communicate.
But they're also not disrupting their actual cinema goers by
taking their bride ass phone out and taking a picture
of the screen. Now, it's one thing to like do
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that sometimes as like a Twitter bit. It's a whole
other thing for these people to be arguing that you
should be allowed to or like that it's it should
be socially acceptable.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah, if you do it, if you do it whatever.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
That's one thing I don't really see how you can
actually argue that it's.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
A good.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
People have been trying, which is listen.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
If any listeners out there do this or want to
defend this, please please send me a detailed email with
your what's actually going through your head and why this
couldn't be better served by a screenshot or something else.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I think it probably proliferated during like the rise of
snapchat or those be real kind of apps where it's like, like,
we have to know what you're doing every moment of
your day.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It's a sad state of affairs.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, but in the effort of not ranting about this
for another hour, yeah, well kind of a So what
are some emails we've been getting?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yeah, let's let's move on.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'm worked up, all right.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
So this is a lighter one is from our listener, Jennifer.
Thank you, Jennifer.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Deceptively simple, but this came up between me and my husband,
and we have since learned it can cause massive and
passionate divides in any group of people. You ask it
to Wow, all right, strap in. You walk into a
coffee shop and order a coffee one sugar, no milk.
Is this a black coffee? In other words, does black
refer to the color, in which case yes, or is
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this more of a metaphysical descriptor in which black means pure, untouched, undiluted,
in which case no. In this case, I can tell
you that there is a correct answer, and it is
what I believe, whereas my husband's belief is wrong. And
now Jennifer and I checked the original email, she'd not
say which one which I like is I don't want
to be biased because I obviously agree with all my listeners.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't drink coffee, but I think that what first
of all, are people putting when you get coffee, they're
putting sugar in it for you?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Well, usually sometimes I guess a drive through situation, yeah, okay,
like goose scenarios where people are doing the sugars and creams.
You know, you go to McDonald's and you order coffee,
they ask how many creamy sugars or like, I'll say like,
and you do need to be intentional because if you
go to I remember going to Duncan asking just for
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a small coffee or something, and they the default is
with sugar and cream for hot coffee. And I was
pretty deserved once when that happened, because I would assume
default is just yeah, you got to act if it's
for a hot coffee. But yeah, but I think maybe
Duncan probably enough people getting coffee there wanted that.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I'm a newcomer to coffee.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I've only been drinking coffee for like maybe a year now,
but I've never described it as black. What I'll do
at a coffee shops, I'll just bet can I have
a drip with X Y and Z in it, So
I've never thought about it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
But like when you're getting.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
We're feedting with X, Y and Z, then you wouldn't
be ordering a black coffee, right.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
But when Mia gets she only gets quote unquote black.
But she'll just say, can I have a drip?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Maybe English thing?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But does she put what you what do you get
in your coffee?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Like usually oat milk?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
We're not not even I'm a black coffee.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Well I'm a I'm a drinker of black coffee.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'm a black.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But the reason I bring that up is like I've
never thought about describing it as that.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I gotta.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I feel for her husband, assuming he's the one that
thinks it's the color black, so I'm gonna call it
a black coffee. I feel for him, But he's wrong
because I think everyone refers to black as like, don't
do anything to it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I agree with Yeah, I think black is pure. Just
when I get my tea, I think of it. I
don't say black, but I think if it's a black,
I don't get no sugar, I don't get no milk.
Just just give me the thing.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, I think about it even literally when you go
to order it. Why would you say a black coffee
with sugar when you could just say a coffee with sugar.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
The black is, of course referring in some ways to
the color, but a black coffee should be understood to
be just the coffee.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
One real quick thing.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I also, I don't hear like, no one really says
black unless you're like being served, like at a diner.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah, he could hold them off from bringing over the
tray of the creams and sugars.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And then that's in that instance it's useful for the establishment.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, do people use it as a quick way to
say no milk?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I would say sugar is in there too, like if
you're ordering black coffee, yeah, but milk is definitely more
disturbing to it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah. But I'm saying because if I'm ordering, you know,
if I'm make believe me, ordering a coffee, if I'm saying, hey,
give me a black coffee with two sugars, then it's like,
I don't want milk in that coffee. Don't ask me
what type of milk I want, just put two sugars.
So now I'm kind of going in the other direction.
Although I think black is nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
But if you said to the barista, give me a
coffee with two sugars. You're saving yourself a millisecond.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
They might then be.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Milk. That's what I'm asking.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
It is a shortcut.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
So I mean, I think there's a case to be made.
I think though, if we're defining terms, there's no way
I can really say, you know, when we drill down
to it, the black coffee, in essence is just the coffee.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah. Do we have any baris differends?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I used to be a barista, okay you Yeah, Well,
if if someone asked a black coffee, I wouldn't be like,
do you want sugar or.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Anything in that?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Okay? You would assume that may nothing.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
No, And I mean the coffee shop I worked out
was you got your own sugars, okay, So that takes
off my head.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's just different kind.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Of depends on the ven.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
So, I mean, I think it's like, I don't blame
the server for if they're in charge of adding the sugars.
They're just being They're trying to be helpful by asking
these things. I would never assume theyre this person is
probably gonna want this. But it's more like I'm making
I'm saying, hey, if you don't need anything, it's gonna
be right over there.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
My expectations of a barista if I said I went
on black coffee would be they would not put anything
in it.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Or like yeah, or think like you're putting in a
bagel order you know you're on an app or whatever
you put in.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
All right, here's my bagel, cream cheese, locks.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I'm gonna get a coffee if I don't put in
the notes add cream and sugar, yep, or I put
in the notes black.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah, I'm not expecting.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Sugar anywhere near that coffee, whether in it or on
the side or no.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
You know, so, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I mean, it sounds like all three of us are
not necessarily mad at mister husband's stance, but.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, we don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah, you're assuming. I'm pretty Jennifer, I don't know where
you stand.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm pretty comfortable with the idea that she said she
thinks black coffee has nothing in it because of the
way she described that stance. But I think I'm not
necessarily mad at the person who thinks that it's that
you can have sugar coffee. But I don't agree with them.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I agree with that, And I think your expectations should
be you're not going to get anything with it. So
if you're okay with that, then you can call it
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Lose You order black coffee at a diner.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
You shouldn't be mad at them if they don't bring sugar.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yes, we'll put a poll in the newsletter for this one.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Please voice voice your concerns.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
And Jennifer, if you hear this, please follow up and
let us know where you stand so we can put
this one to bed.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Even though I already know where you.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Man, he seems to know.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And if your husband knows that he thoughts to send in,
please give him let him and.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
For everyone else listening.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And that's the perfect kind of question for the We're
going to be doing these mailbag episodes, you know, not
that often, but every now and then. And that's a
great question. That's that seems like the plot of a
Curb your Enthusiasm episode.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Up next, we have a question from Cat and this.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
One well I feel like these next two kind of
oh yeah to area outside clothes.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, so this is kind of a follow up or
attachment to our episode on Outside Clothes, which we'll link
as well if you missed it.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
I think that's one of our best episodes. O.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Top here, yeah, top tier of the many episodes you've
put out of the fourteen, top five, fifteen or sixty?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
True? All right?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
The question is from cat? How many times can you
wear jeans before they're dirty? Am I the only one
who wears jeans more than other clothes before washing them? Up?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
With that? You you'd be happy to hear. We had
a very long discussion about this that we actually ended
up cutting from the Outside Clothes episode. We did maybe
ten minutes on jeans.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yep, do it again.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I mentioned in that episode I almost never washed my jeans.
I only wash my jeans when they are dirty, like
there's visible dirt on them or they smell. I am
a firm believer that you do not need to wash
your jeans unless absolutely necessary. So, like these jeans I'm
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wearing right now, it's.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Been months, months, months, So how often do you wear those?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Would you say?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
How many wears?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Do you think? Oh, that's a good question, let's say
because like once a week.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yeah, they're in your rotation eight to twelve eight not more.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, I wear yeah, I go in I know, if
I'm washing jeans, it's like, okay, like I went to
the park with yea like a ball dirt Yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
For me, it's it's it's less the dirt, of course,
the dirt thing, but it's more like the stretchiness. Like
you wear pants and then they kind of loosen up
but in a way, and then.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I want to wash. Yeah, well, well we're moving away
from the type jeans you know now.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Huge genes, but during the jagging stage of our youth,
that was a big thing for why women would wash
your genes so often, because like you're saying, if you
don't wash them, then they lose that what do you
call it stretchiness, yeah, elasticity, yeah exactly, and they become
looser on you. Yeah, so when you do watch them,
(19:36):
especially if you draw them, it makes it entire but yeah,
I almost never watched my Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, it ruins your genes.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Yeah, especially I think if I mean I don't have
any like expensive nights genes. But I know people would
like the real raw salvage denom thing. They're really not
washing them, like literally not like maybe dry clean.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
There are two reasons that I'm with Kat here. Number
one is, you know, this could be law assumption, but
you know, jeans are a little thicker, they're harder than
other pants, so I feel like they're more durable. And
I'm like, you, guys, I don't wash them unless they
either have like a stain on them or you know,
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it's been a really long time, and I'm like, these
could use a freshening.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Number two is I'm just.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I can't be bothered to like, look at the exact
way you're supposed to wash every item of clothing. Like
some people are like this where they like you pay
attention to like these jeans, Like I can't. You know,
I'm not going to wash them in the correct way,
So I'm going to wash them in the my washing
machine and uh and when I do that, they get
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a little tighter, and you know it takes me like
a full week of wearing them to get back to
where they are. Ye.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
So yeah, that's my thinking on this.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I don't like, Yeah, I don't like the fit of
them after their washing.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I did reach out to our friend Jordan, who is
stylish wears clothes. Well, yeah, all right, let's see what
he has to say.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
And this is the world premiere. We've never heard this.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Oh right.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
For me?
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Hey Manny Noah Devin. So to answer the question about jeans,
I feel like you first had to understand the history
of jeans a little bit. People feel like just because
you went to brunch or like stepped on a subway
one time, you have the washer jeans immediately after.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You really don't.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Jeans used to be warned by like farm hands and
like people in coal mines. So you just grabbing I
don't know, a new drink at like the local bar
or something is not an immediate reason that runs in
the Washington and throw your jeans in.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Personally, I think just wear them until they smell. You
have a nose, you're be able to figure it out.
But yeah, you don't need to wash them immediately. You
got a lot of time in there.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That was a great answer.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Next case, yeah, killed it, shut it down.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's funny when he said we gotta talk about the
history of I'm like, well, you pranking us, like.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
You know here some good points.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, now that's a that's a great idea. I didn't
think about what jeans are.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, you talk to you said you saw a CNN.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, and then if you don't trust Jordan or us,
our good friends at CNN wrote an article a few
couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Are good friends.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, who I know, I'm seeing it.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Anderson Cooper Flitzer, Yeah, Jake Tapper, Yeah, Jake.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Anyway, this article, I'll link to it, but it's it's
not super in depth. The main thrust of it is
just that you know, if you're not sweating a lot,
and if you're wearing underwear. Yeah, yeah, which I assume
we typically are, crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It's not even comfortable, No, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
They say you really don't need to watch them much.
They're not getting dirty. Yeah, just from kind of normal use.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah, you're like, as you're clean.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And not like in an extreme situation where you're sweating
a lot or whatever, then you're pretty much good to go.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So good to know.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
I think I think that's about that.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Another thing from this episode to follow up on, because
we did have a friend who had some issues with this,
was about cleaning your sponge in the microwave, which was
recommended by our expert.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
There, doctor Lisa. Apparently people need some instructions.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yes, yeah, your friends Rich, you have to call you
out Rich.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
You might remember from episode one on Audio Doos.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, Rich told us he said he was going to
sue us because he put his our first lawsuit put
the He put the sponge in the microwave, and he
said it almost caught fire because he missed a very
important step, which is first you have to wet the sponge. Yeah,
it's he did not wet the sponge.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
He just putting a dry sponge, which strange because it's
like when are you watching it, Like you're watching your
stuff letting time pass dry. But then you're like, I'm
putting it in there basically right after I watched Yes,
because like I'm like, all right, I'm done washing.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
This is the perfect time to do this.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Now.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
I don't need out, I need it for open Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Isn't the idea that the that seems like common sensor
in the sponge turns into steam to clean it.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And it also prevents it from burning.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, caction fire.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
So here's some you know a lot of people have
said this is like their biggest takeaway from that episode
is that like, ah, maybe I'm not going to do
the things with the bed, but I will sponge, so
wet your sponge. Step one. Also make sure that you're
not putting any sort of metal short of sponges in
the right way if that should be common sense. But
let's just say here any more lawsuits. Yeah, and then
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you can put it in anywhere between one and two minutes.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
It's going to be hot when you take it out.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
It's going to be hot.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Sit there, get some gloves.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Not grab it immediately, give it some time, give it
about ten minutes, fifteen minutes before you grab it out,
so we don't get that lawsuit either.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Our legal council is right next to us.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
What's funny too, is I was in researching just to
make sure that we were telling people to write information.
In about twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, there was a scientific
study about, you know, how much germs are being killed
during this and then the New York Times did an
article about that, and people were writing articles as recent
(25:13):
as last year saying don't microwave your sponge. And I
was like, whoa old, don't microwave your sponge. So I
click on your article and they're like, don't microwave your sponge.
Because microwaving your sponge only kills the worst bacteria, it
doesn't kill all of it. I'm like, Okay, that's exactly
what I thought. I didn't think putting it in the
microwave means it's a brand new sponge. That's like saying,
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don't wash your hands because you're not going to get
rid of all of the germs, just the worst germs.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
So was it like clickbaity or was it more like
they were.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
About three or four. I don't understand. I guess they
thought that. Well, look, there's also the other thing of right,
just because your microwave your sponge doesn't mean you can
never replace your sponge. You still have to replace your
sponge pretty regularly, you know, like every two weeks or so,
depending on you know, depending on any dish you're watching,
what you're watching, that sort of similar genes. So, yeah,
(26:05):
if you're just microwaving your sponge and then not replacing
your sponge, that's bad. Yeah, but micro waving your sponge
is good because it kills the worst bacteria. Yeah, there
will still be bacteria there, but that's not an excuse
to not Michael waves. It's not killing all of it.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
What is this just like telling someone not to get
a job because it's not going to pay you all
the money.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, some of it.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Small fraction, so that those are instructions for Michael waving
your sponge.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Don't don't feel too bad, rich, but we are making
fun of you.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, we'll be hearing about this in the group. The
text Now, this is an email.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
We got from Lauren about our follow Ups episode Why
men Don't Ask follow up Questions. Lauren writes, my cousin
made up a social experiment called the tribute shay theory.
You're supposed to ask your male partner, out of the blue,
what do you call that thing that's like a catapult
but starts with a t The theory hypothesizes that the
man will respond with the correct answer, a tribute shay.
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He will then proceed to ask zero follow up questions
about why you may have wanted or needed this information. However,
he might explain to you unprompted, the difference between a
catapult and a tribute shait. Admittedly, this theory has only
been tested about five times, but the results we got
were undeniable, though I can see it may have just
been indicative of the type of men in our.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Social circles real quick?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Did y'all know?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
So?
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Yeah, I don't ask you guys this. I looked it up.
But do you guys know the difference?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I M?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yeah, really, you haven't heard it?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
No, I knew the term. I didn't know the difference
now to me, it was the same thing.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
But I do know that there are different types of catapults, like, yeah,
the one with the big spoon, yeah, versus one with
like a slingshot situation.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
So this link shot from what I understand is, a
catapult is a device for hurdling projectiles. So that's the
kind of umbrellatibus is a type of catapult that uses
gravity via a counterweight and typically a slink to hurdle
said projectiles. So ABU is a catapult, not all catapults
or tribut shit.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeh see that is such a funny, uh kind of experiment.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I don't know if I would get the answer and then, yeah,
I would, Yeah, I would. I would be like where
are you like, because I'd be like, why are you
talking about?
Speaker 5 (28:32):
No offense to women?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Hey? If one of you sent me to yeah, why
the hell are you? What are you talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, it feels similar to the Roman Empire thing.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, definitely your version, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, so send us other things like this we could
do and try this out with some of your male partners.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Out there and let us know how they respond.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And then yeah, so now lost to wrap up, because
I think it'll be nice given that, you know, there's
a lot of new listeners. We got an early email
from Ryan and he asks, why do I and others
I know feel the need to make a podcast or
TikTok or something like that when there's really nothing interesting
about myself? Probably social validation, I guess, I don't know.
(29:18):
I thought you guys might relate to this. Wow, So
I guess let's start with us, like why do we
want to start a podcast, and then we can broaden it.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Out because you know, we started talking about this podcast
like ten years ago before we actually got off of
our asses to make it. But I think it's the
same reason why we got into media and journalism, which
is like, we like to tell stories or we like
to explain things, and I think this specific podcast helps
(29:49):
us do that. We wouldn't I don't, I mean maybe
now we would, now that more people have listened to
the show and like us, but ten years ago, we
would never have talked about starting a podcast that's just
us talking about yeah random yeah, Like so many people
do start those in all the Power too then because
some of them become really successful.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
But that's not what we were interested in doing.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
We were interested in, like I think, imparting some knowledge
and explaining situations. That's part of why we got into journalism.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I think.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, from my perspective, why I felt like, oh, we
should actually do this is because it felt like something
I would listen to if I were not Yeah, right,
So like when we're making it, that's how I think
about it. It's like I was just feeling like when
I'm going to my podcast app, it's like, is this
doing something different than like another podcast would do it?
And there are times where we are like talking about
(30:41):
a topic where we're like, actually, we shouldn't do this
because this is that podcast.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Yeah yeah, it's not us.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, but it's weird because like I feel like, you know,
obviously we put a lot of hours into this and
I think a lot about this, but like I would
never like a TikTok, Like I don't that is not
interesting to me, Like I don't think about like I
need to put myself into TikTok, like we make tiktoks
for the show.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like we're doing this for specific reason. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And I think as people in media, at least, we're
already trained to know when something is different, like we
wouldn't do this because the Times did it or whatever. Yeah,
and so like, yeah, we've got that kind of layer
to this podcast where it's like there are other podcasts
that explain questions, but I think we do have Like
it's different because of the exact premise. It's like three
(31:31):
friends who are always arguing, who are also journalists.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, and I think to to now broaden it because
I'm assuming Ryan is not working in media, and it's more,
you know, talking about generally, like why someone would want
to start a podcast. I think it's it's because the format,
I think is just generally more casual. It's not like
some random person deciding they're gonna suddenly like write newspaper
or magazine stories or something. Yeah, you know, it's like, yeah,
(31:57):
you can even if you are explaining something in a
journalistic way or whatever, it's it is usually more casual
in tone or whatever. So you listen to a podcast
enough you feel like you know those people or whatever,
and there's that sort of.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Relationship, it feels more attainable.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, and it feels like, oh, I could do this,
Like I think that's how we felt when we.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Did Search Engine for the first time.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yeah too, Like even broader, it's like, I'm sure someone
like why you want to make anything?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
It's like, I'm sure there's some.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Human in like, I don't know, I'm sure Freud writes
about this. I'm just like, you want to make something
and feel it something, you know. So I think it's
all those things. But yeah, I think why you know,
in podcasts or TikTok instead of other mediums, it's like
it's accessible and it also.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Feels personal and personable.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, And I guess a good question to Ryan would be,
it sounds like you're contemplating making something. Are you making it?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Would you be okay with making the thing if nobody
else saw it?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I think that was a big conversation that we had.
It's just like, we can make this thing and there
could be five people listening to it, yea three of
what you are on the podcast?
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, so you know like, yeah, would that still be
to you? Are you doing this with the hopes of
an audience? Yeah, because you know, it's a lot of
work and there's no guarantee that you're gonna have an audience.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, it's a great question though. Yeah, it made me
think a little bit.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Yeah, it's good to reflect.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, someone's like, we don't need another podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
What do you guys exactly? It'll be like, well, yeah,
I like to tell stories.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
I guess that's about it for the mail bag this time.
But there's tons of other great questions. And if you've
already submitted a question and we didn't get to it,
stay in line.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
We might get to it eventually.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Bottles.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, so yeah, don't worry. But yeah, we'll probably do
another one of these in a few weeks. And please
send more and thanks for listening.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
All the usual stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Give us five stars and share with friends and follow
us and all that. We'll link to helpful stuff on
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dot show and email us at Manny Noahdevin at gmail
dot com.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Thanks anything else.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
No, that was perfect, that was beautiful professional to for it.
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