November 14, 2024 • 39 mins
Join No Wine Left Behind as we chat with Catherine Whitehouse, senior Travel Advisor at Wanderlust Jet Setter. From marathon days to luxury travel expert, Catherine shares her wild journey and top tips for affordable destination weddings, family vacations, and the best spots worldwide (Greece, anyone?). She even sets the record straight on travel safety in popular spots like Mexico and Jamaica.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the no Wine Left Behind podcast, where
we truly leave no wine behind.
I'm Alex.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And I'm Celia.
We are here in the studiotogether, sharing ups and downs,
frustrations and funny momentsof our daily adventures.
So grab your favorite glass.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Join us as we raise our voices.
Together, we'll dive into thedrama of life as we see it.
Excited to introduce KatherineWhitehouse, senior Travel
Advisor at Wanderlust Jet Setter, a luxury travel agency that
has all the dreamdestination-worthy things in
mind for you, mainly weddings,honeymoons and all the luxe
(00:46):
getaways worldwide.
Catherine may have joined theindustry just two years ago, but
her passion for travel goes wayback.
Her top picks the Caribbean,mexico and pretty much anywhere
along the US West Coast.
Welcome, catherine.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Thank you.
How are you?
I'm great.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
How are?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
you.
I'm great.
How are you Good?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
good, awesome.
So number one question, becausenow that I just read the intro
it reminds me of, like the dayold age debate.
Do you say Caribbean orCaribbean?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yes, I was going to ask her that question.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I always say Caribbean because when I say
Caribbean, I'm thinking likeJohnny Depp, pirates of the
Caribbean yeah, I hear it aslike a movie trailer.
So I always say Caribbean.
That's what I default to.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, I think Caribbean too yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Glad we're all on the same beach here yes.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Catherine, tell us everything about what inspired
you to take the first steptoward building buns on the run.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Oh my God, I love the name yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So I changed that in like 2014,.
Maybe, um, maybe 13.
I don't know.
I went through our runningphase and I decided to change it
as buns on the run because Iwas a runner and I was signing
up for five Ks and I ran the NewYork marathon and I would do 10
miler every year.
So it just like you know, bunson the run.
(02:11):
And then I realized running isterrible.
I actually hate it, um, not fun, and it ended up just kind of
evolving into like buns on therun, like travel, and when I
tell you, I think most people Iknow call me buns.
I'm in their phone as buns andI think half my husband's
(02:33):
coworkers didn't know my realname, for like the first year
that we dated, I was buns.
The people call me buns.
I am not offended.
I'm like I mean, that's how youknow you've made it.
You know people start talkingabout you as your Instagram
handle.
I feel like you've made it.
(02:53):
Yeah, so that's cool.
Never change it.
I will never change it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I love that Good and it's so memorable.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Like it also makes sense yeah, there's so memorable
.
Like it also makes sense.
Yeah, there's so much to itthat's just so fitting yeah, so
I love it, so I'm, I'm keepingit.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's awesome, I agree with you on all the
running stuff, because I ran fora while and it's it is awful
yeah.
I don't.
I've had thoughts of trying itagain.
And then I say to myself whatare you thinking?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Like that Running is it being over.
So I feel like you feelaccomplished, Like when I ran
the New York Marathon, I hatedmy life and like it was great to
do and I did it for a charityand all that.
But I remember like mygirlfriend was like waiting for
me.
I couldn't find her, Like myphone was like half dead.
I'm like trying to figure outhow to meet her, Like, and I
just remember sitting it waslike eight o'clock at night in
Times Square on a corner withthe Teflon or whatever, and I,
(03:55):
when she finally found me, Isaid I need you to remind me of
this exact moment.
If I ever sign up for amarathon again, me like
basically looking homeless inTimes Square, like sweaty and
crying I need you to remind meto never do it again.
Oh, wow, Like no.
So then after that I was likeI've peaked, I'm done, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, that that was a good way to end it, though
Doing yeah went out with thegang.
Yeah, that's perfect.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Exactly Because the New York City Marathon just
happened.
I know it's funny that we'retalking on the anniversary of
that day.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
It's a great race.
I mean I would never knock it,but I think I would just never.
I cross it off and it's done,right yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Kudos to you.
That's a lot.
Yeah, it's a lot.
So what's the most surprisingthing that you learned about
yourself through this journey?
Transitioning from running bunson the run to travel buns on
the run.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It's a lot more fun and I feel like it's still
fitting because I'm for the mostpart.
Most people are like where areyou off to now?
Or they see my Instagram storyand they're like are you here?
Are you in Aruba, where are you?
And that's like I joke, becausemy personal trainer will text
me every week and be like areyou in the country this weekend?
(05:15):
I can't remember Like, and halfthe time I'm like Nope, I'm not
.
Or like it's.
It's just so funny that nowthat's it Buns is me just not.
Is being on a plane somewhere?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah.
So what takes you to all thesedifferent destinations?
Obviously, your your work, butlike why do you go there to
check out the hotels?
Or like see, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, I do it's.
My travel now is a lot of likemainly work.
I mean, it's a lot of fun too.
I try to fit that in.
But when I go to like a newdestination or one that I've
been to before, I try to set upwhat we call site inspections.
So, like for Aruba, for example, I've been to every single
resort there, either stayingthere or on a business meeting.
So I email the resort like aweek or two in advance and I say
(06:04):
, hey, I'm going to be in Aruba,I'd love to meet you.
And they take me around andit's like an hour, half hour and
I get to see the resort morefrom a business perspective.
They show me the different roomcategories, the restaurants,
kids clubs, spas, gyms.
That way I get a sense of whatit's like so that I can sell it
Right.
Okay, so much easier to sellsomething if you've seen it
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personally.
Right, you know Expedia canonly tell you so much, tiktok
and Instagram can only tell youso much.
So it's nice to actually go,because there are resorts that
I've been to where I'm like Iwould never send someone here,
or I know I would never send afamily here, or I know this
resort is good for this tieredbudget, or that's what I like to
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do.
So, like, in a couple of weeksI'm going to the Dominican and
I'm going to try to set up abunch just to see the ones that
I sell the most and see okay,why do my clients really like it
here?
I mean, I like it on paper, Ihaven't got any complaints about
it.
But I want to see it for myselfand figure out, like, okay, I
know exactly who to send it tosend this.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It would be interesting to hear your
perspective on the DominicanRepublic, because I've never
been there.
I've gotten a lot of mixedreviews.
I've gotten people that love itand will keep going back.
I've gotten people that havegotten really sick coming home
or gotten really there, and thenpeople that are like, nah, it's
okay, one and done type thing.
(07:30):
So, I'd be interesting from atravel person's point of view,
because these are just peoplethat go on vacation.
They're not travel experts oranything like that.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So yeah, that.
So yeah, that's.
One of my hot takes is that Iget so angry when people go to
someplace once and maybe have abad experience and they just
will never do it again.
And then that is, and I I hatethat, because you might like I
went to the Bahamas and Ipersonally didn't like it.
(08:03):
Like I went to the Bahamas andI personally didn't like it.
It wasn't my favorite, I knowpeople like it, but I went one
time and I might go again and Imight love it.
And I hate when people go onceand then they tell everyone oh,
don't go there, oh I got sickonce, or I it rained the whole
time, because I'm in the workingseason and I didn't look whole
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time, because I'm in thehurricane season and I didn't
look.
It's like I hate that becausegive it a second chance.
Like, maybe you had a badtravel day, maybe you had a
layover getting there, maybe youweren't feeling good when you
got there, and now it's justsnowballing into a negative
experience.
But also, on the flip side, youget what you pay for.
So if someone's like, oh, Iwent to the Dominican and I
stayed at X resort, and I said,well, how much what you pay for.
So if someone's like, oh, Iwent to the Dominican and I
stayed at X resort and I said,well, how much did you pay for
(08:49):
it?
And they're like oh, it waslike $200 a night.
That's probably why you weresick, you know?
Like, what do you pay for with?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
these things.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
It's hard when people have this champagne taste on a
beer budget because it's likeI'm trying to only send you to
the quality resorts.
I'm telling you like, yeah, youmight, I could get you to the
dominican for 700.
I could also get you to theemergency room for that.
So it's up to you.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
What, what you want, what's a nine-hour layover in
the Emeralds?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, I love that, so it drives me crazy.
Yeah, one of my pet peeves.
Okay, that is so funny.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
So in the intro I had mentioned weddings, honeymoons
and then just all aroundall-encompassing kind of travel.
So what is your favorite tobook?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Honeymoons.
Really I love honeymoon.
I love booking honeymoons Well,destination weddings too.
I get super excited becauseit's not just like a one-off
kind of thing.
I'm like in with the brides forlike a year, you know, going
back and forth and helping themget everything situated, with
their guests and logistics andeverything like that.
So it's like more of arelationship, you know, with
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that Um.
But I love booking honeymoonsbecause they're they're just
couples are so excited there.
They want this to be like thisultra experience, like doesn't
have to cost an arm and a leg ora mortgage to go.
But they want this like.
They want someplace unique.
They want some place that'sgoing to give them everything
and more.
They want a good spa, a beach,or they want this unique Italy
(10:29):
experience.
They want to do a multi and gomake limoncello, like they want
to do the things that you know.
If you're just like, well, I dowant to go to Italy next summer
, it's like not as passionate, Iguess is like the right word.
Like they just want to go toItaly next summer, it's like not
as passionate, I guess is likethe right word.
They just they get so excited.
And then I get excited and I'mlike I want to give you this I
want to give you everything andmore, and I want you to have
like the best time ever.
I love, I love bookinghoneymoons, like that's just my,
(10:51):
my jam.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's so sweet.
How do you handle the peoplewho are indecisive or going on
the honeymoon honeymoon, whowant to have a destination
wedding but they don't know whatexperiences they want to have,
or they don't know where theywant their friends and family to
experience with them?
So how do you figure?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
that out.
So a lot of the destinationweddings that I do personally
are Caribbean, and it can be along conversation.
I have some brides who are likeI want this resort and this
resort, only let's get thiscontracted.
I have some brides who are likeI want this resort and this
resort, only let's get thiscontracted.
I have some who are like Ithink I want the Caribbean, or
like oh, I love Aruba, I reallywant to do Aruba.
(11:30):
And then when I give them theprice tag, they're like don't do
that it's a lot of back andforth trying to find the perfect
spot for them.
That's also not going to breakthe bank for their guests
because it is an expense forthem for you know their guests
to come um.
But you know the the dominican,mexico and jamaica are
(11:50):
typically the I don't.
They're the lowest cost, youknow.
But you get more for your moneywith those because you're going
to be all inclusive.
You know you're going to get agreat room block rate.
There are a lot of familyfriendly ones, you know, on the
beach.
So it is a lot of back andforth.
You know I can give myrecommendations and say this
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this resort I know is reallygood with weddings, or this
resort has, you know, apreferred club or a kid's club
that you might need.
And then I get.
I go and get their quotes.
So the quotes are complimentary, like we don't charge any
travel planning fees at all.
So we might go back and forthfor a while and say how do you
(12:31):
feel about the pricing for this,how do you feel about the
pricing for this?
And then, once we get thatlocked in it's, I get them in
touch with the weddingcoordinator, I get them in touch
with the vendors, like it's asa first point of contact and
then like then we kind of gothrough the most, but it can be
a lot.
You know, I've I've had brideswhere they're like, you know,
(12:51):
like I said, they want a Rubaand then they see the price tag
and it's not all inclusive andthey're like so I always go
default to like the Dominican orMexico, because you're going to
get, going to get some qualityresorts for less.
I mean, I have two bridesgetting married next October in
the Dominican at Dreams Flora,and that's where I'm staying
next month, and they it's likewildly affordable and it's like
(13:15):
a five star resort.
Yeah, so it's, you know it's,it's a win win.
You get to spend the best dayof your life with family and
friends.
You don't have to take out yourwallet once.
I mean to me, I lovedestination weddings.
I know people have very strongopinions about destination
weddings, but I think I don'tknow, put me on a plane and get
(13:35):
me out of here.
I'd rather go there than NewHampshire for your wedding.
All right, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I love to travel, so take me anywhere out of
Massachusetts.
I live in Massachusetts, sotake me anywhere out of
Massachusetts, I'll be happy.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, exactly, I don't care it might be every
single morning, I would love itand I also love to, like I've
had.
You know what I say to thebrides too to not get so like in
the weeds with your guests,because they will give you
opinions and it's just going todiscourage you, right?
So if, like I would ratherbecause I I deal with all the
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bookings like they have to cometo me to get the quotes and
everything, if your aunt karenis going to email me and give
like shit for basically saying Ican't spend this much, that's
so expensive, I'd rather I'drather get it than the bride.
I don't want her to bediscouraged, or the group or
like yeah, I don't make theprices.
My guy, this is, this is what itis, this is what they want.
(14:34):
Right, you don't have to go.
I'd rather be that.
I'm like a bouncer.
You can talk shit all you wantabout this price.
It's still their day.
I'm the wrong person.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That's right.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
What about?
Do you have any?
What would be your top threedestinations for family?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
vacations For families.
I would say leave the kid homeand go on a vacation.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's not possible, yeah, but if it's not possible
to leave the kid home, then wealso leave behind certain family
members.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I would say so.
I love like beaches resorts.
They're part of like Sandals,the family friendly version.
I probably sell beaches, turksand Caicos the most for families
because it comes with so much.
I mean it's Disneyland onsteroids but better and you just
you get everything and it's I.
(15:37):
I have a lot of likemulti-generational families that
want to travel, likegrandparents and grandkids and
everything.
Yeah, he just starts in Caicosis probably the best, the best
one, cause you can get somegreat rooms you can all like
they can accommodate the largegroups for dinners and lunches
and I mean they really have, andthey have a kid's club.
So the kid's club is includedand you can drop the kids off,
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have a great time with certifiednannies and all that, and then
you know like everyone's goingto have a great time, right,
right Cool.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
We did a family trip last year.
It was actually our first likeI go with my family on vacation
every year, first, like I gowith my family on vacation every
year.
But it was the first time wetook, like the rest of the
family, like the nieces, thenephews, the grandchildren, the
boyfriends, husbands, everybody.
There was 17 of us.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
We went on a cruise.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It was the best, and everyone said it was one of the
best trips they've had in areally long time, so it was
awesome did you leave out ofboston or did you leave out of?
Miami, florida.
Yeah, yeah, I booked the wholething.
It was a lot.
Yeah, it was a lot of work,yeah, um, but it was worth it.
(16:57):
We it was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
And it went so smoothly.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, it went really smooth, Like there was no issue,
Like the flight was smooth.
I mean, the flight coming homewas not the best.
She ended up getting stuck inMiami overnight and her flight
was canceled.
Really yeah, but everythingelse was fine.
The cruise was smooth, thedinners were great.
It was really, really, reallygood.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So, 2025,.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
We're looking to do something else.
We're not sure if we want to doanother cruise or if we want to
go to Aruba or just one placefor five, six days.
So I'm kind of mulling thataround and trying to figure out
where we're going to end up.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
So it's hard with a group to like coordinate all
that stuff.
Cruises are great for groupstoo, cause it's just you're all.
You're all in one place.
You know, I think I personallythink you get more bang for your
buck going to an all inclusive,like going to one destination.
But people love cruises, I meanthey.
They cause you get to stop atmultiple places.
For me, Like.
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I, I want to experience culture.
I want to experience, likeIsland, that I can't do that in
six hours.
Right, right, I won't get backon the boat, so I just need to,
like, I need to go there, youknow, but cruises are.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
They're a great option.
Yeah, that's.
I'm considering doing an Islandnext year, like not sure which
one, but that's kind of what I'mleaning towards.
It's going to be all inclusivebecause they're going to be so
many of us that, exactly I gotto make sure everybody can eat
when they want to eat.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, I mean, like if you're traveling with young
kids, you don't want to have to,like you want all inclusive you
want that ease that.
If they don't like something,then you can just go back up to
the buffet or order somethingelse.
Same with picky adults too.
Go to Ron Quist.
If you don't like it, justorder something else.
That's the way to go,especially with kids.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah definitely, Totally totally.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And then the experiences like you touched on.
You had just gotten back fromMexico and you were there for
the Day of the Dead.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
That is amazing.
How was that it was incrediblewas that it was the timing or
did it?
Was that happenstance?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
uh, so we did it on purpose.
We went for, specifically, theday of the dead.
So my husband's uncle and hishusband live in mexico, in san
miguel de allende, and theyinvited us this year for day of
the dead and we stayed at theirhouse, which was incredible,
incredible.
And they, as a travel agent I'msuch a bad traveler myself Like
I do everything last minute.
(19:25):
I don't make decisions formyself Like I just I'm like, oh,
okay, I should probably book aflight we leave tomorrow.
Like it's, I just don't, I'm sofocused on everyone else's plan
.
But I'm like, oh no, where arewe staying?
I need to find that out.
So, thankfully, they prettymuch planned it.
Like I told them the flightsthat we booked, they took us to
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the most incredible restaurants.
Um, like, when I tell you likeall family owned, everyone there
was so friendly, so kind, sogenerous, so humble, it was like
, like why?
Why on earth do we live here?
I want to go back to Mexico.
We went to this family-ownedrestaurant twice.
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They had a food truck to start,and they decided it was raining
one day.
They couldn't sell food.
So they were like, okay, we'lljust have people come to our
house and sell food that way andthey became so popular that
they turned their house into therestaurant.
Oh wow, now they live somewhereelse, so we're literally eating
(20:29):
in their home.
And we had three margaritas wekept joking because they were
like this big and two entreesand a dessert with 20% tip.
It came to $60.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh my God, oh my.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
God or whatever.
It is in pesos, but it was 60us dollars and the food quality
was incredible and we did um,they had a makeup artist come.
We did the whole day of thedead.
We went and saw the altars, sothey have uh, it's more of like
a celebration of life, like it'sthere's no morning.
It's just we're celebrating ourloved ones that passed on and
(21:00):
they leave out food like theirfavorite food or favorite drinks
.
We saw like whiskey bottles andtequila bottles on these altars
and I mean they take like daysto make.
Like you know, they're makingdesigns out of beads and straw
and all this stuff.
And it was.
It was incredible.
It was the most incredibleexperience.
I felt like when we were in theparade, I almost felt like I
was running a marathon, butwithout the running, because
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there was so many people like onthe sidelines cheering and like
taking pictures and like it wasjust.
It was so cool it was.
It was absolutely like the mostincredible experience.
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
It sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Liver of awesomeness through your stories.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, I can only imagine liver of awesomeness
through your stories.
I took so many pictures andvideos.
I just I need to like actuallysit and like make a reel about
it.
But it's like this little town,like in four hours outside of
Mexico city and I never knew itexisted and it was like it was
incredible and there's so manyexpats there.
I was shocked, Like so manypeople from the U?
(22:00):
S that have bought propertythere, that live there or they
live there part time, fromLondon, people from Canada that
like own property there.
That's so fast, Like geez, thismight be my retirement plan.
I just have to learn it wasgreat, it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So sweet, wow Sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So what are some of your other personal bucket list
destinations?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
There's a lot.
So I well, I'm going to Belizein January, super excited about
that.
That's been on my list for awhile.
I would say I really want to goto Dubai and Qatar and do like
that area.
Greece I would love to islandhop.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's on my list.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Amsterdam is on it.
I think I'm trying to plan itso like I could do like
Amsterdam, greece, dubaiai, likebasically, if I'm over there,
anyway, just let me oh yeah, youget it um, be there a couple
weeks and do a whole tour.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, oh yeah I would be.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I'd be going.
I just go to one country andcome back um, and I, I really
want to go to the azores.
I want to go.
So bad yeah like only a 5 hourdirect flight from Boston,
you're in the Hawaii of Europe.
I mean it's so cheap onceyou're there 8 hours is insane
it's not that far.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It's closer than flying to California.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
So why not go for a quick?
Some people go to Californiafor a quick weekend.
Why not go to the Azores?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
we want to go there too.
It's beautiful I have friendswho are from there.
Um, a woman I work with and andthey go all the time, like they
go every year and they justthey love it.
And she said it's so cheap butwhen they go they'll go and do
like island hop, like they'll goto like four different places.
(24:00):
They're gone for days but theyare just on the move, like go,
go, go.
Yeah, it's a quick flight.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
It's like a 30 minute flight or something between the
islands.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Anytime I look at a new destination, I want to go.
I want to go to Columbia, Iwant to go like I just want to
go everywhere.
I want to go places that peopledon't want to go either.
So, I can say it's fine whenpeople are like, oh my God, I
could never go to Mexico.
I'm like, oh my God, shut up,like why.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
You know that's funny that you say that because
people do like.
Over the last couple of yearsI've heard people say a lot of
terrible things about Mexico andhow it's dangerous and the
cartels, and you know.
Then, and then obviously yousee the the news making people
even more scared when they showlike someone got shot on the
beach by a guy in a freaking uh,what is it?
Um, a jet ski?
Yeah well, I mean, we don'tknow the backstory to that, but
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when people see that news youknow what I mean that little bit
of news they're like oh, yeah,they oh yeah, I have friends
that won't go there.
They absolutely will not gothere because of what they hear
on the news?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yep, yeah, I mean, do they forget that they live in
the United States?
I mean, I felt wildly safe inMexico and I, half the time, I
don't even want to leave in.
Mexico and half the time I don'teven want to leave here.
So that's the thing, and Ithink a lot of people, it's a
lot of fear-mongering in thenews.
Yes, to be honest, you see thebad, you don't see the good.
(25:33):
And with Mexico, for example Iheard about that jet ski thing A
lot of it has to do with thecartels.
Cartels are very specific.
They're if they're going aftersomeone, the person they're
going after is at the resort.
They go after that one person.
They rely on Americans comingand buying their drugs.
(25:53):
Let's be honest.
They rely on tourism, so they'renot going to deliberately just
attack people.
There might be a casualty alongthe way by mistake, but they
are very targeted.
So just don't join a cartel andyou'll have a fabulous time.
That's all you have to do.
But they are very targeted.
So like, just don't join acartel and you'll have a
fabulous time.
(26:14):
That's all you have to.
Just, you're going to go rightto the resort.
You're going to drinkmargaritas, so you blackout.
You're going to have so manytacos.
Don't join a cartel and you'refine.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Sign me up.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Sign me up.
Margaritas and tacos.
Hi, I'm in.
Come on, come on, it drives menuts.
Same with jamaica.
People do the same thing aboutjamaica.
I I think jamaica is abeautiful country.
I love the culture.
The water is so blue, the foodis oh, chef's kiss like I just.
And people are like, oh, I cannever go to jamaica.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
And I'm like again it's the same thing though all
of a sudden, j is a dangerousplace to go.
It's a category a, red um, yeahlevel four whatever like that.
Yeah, I'm like when did thathappen?
Cause I've been to Jamaica,I've been to Mexico and I've had
great time and I've never hadan issue.
So I'm like when did theseplaces become dangerous?
Well, were they alwaysdangerous?
(27:06):
And I just was like too busyhaving fun at my resort and
that's the thing is, like peopledon't.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
They don't seem to realize, like, especially for me
, if you hire me as your travelagent, like I'm setting up
reliable, safe transportation,I'm sending you to quality
resorts that are safe, thatpeople love, that like either
I've been to personally or thatI've had clients go to and love
it.
I get the hesitation of tryinga new destination, but I've gone
(27:33):
to Jamaica by myself.
I go to Aruba by myself.
I go places by myself as awoman and I feel safer there.
When I was in Aruba years ago,we went to a local bar.
My friend got roofied and oneof my friends who lives in aruba
saw it and said let's go, we'reout of here.
Wow, so it can happen anywhere.
(27:56):
But like I also make friendswith people who I know I can
trust, right, or you know, ifI'm gonna go do the more
cultural experiences.
So it's just people, just theydon't try to think of the right
wording, it's just they probablyjust using common sense, I mean
, you know.
So it's just that's even.
That's the other problem, butit's, yeah, I mean, I don't know
(28:21):
.
I just I feel I feel sorry forthose people that don't want to
go to these destinations basedon what they saw on the news.
Right, right, yeah, they'rewonderful.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, oh, I agree.
Been to a lot of places, so Ibelieve me.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And I love to travel, so sign me up for anything.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Literally Like Dillian and I have younger kids
and my daughter just turned 18.
And her and two of her bestfriends they went to Aruba by
themselves, graduated highschool, went to aruba by
themselves, graduated highschool, went to aruba.
Yeah, was I nervous?
Yeah, a little bit, but alsoyou're 18, like you have to
experience these things.
And they did everything theycould to be safe and they came
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back just fine with tattoos yeah, tattoos, that was like mind
Just that in itself.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
But yeah.
I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I, I love Aruba, like I, just I.
I I go there too much, I think,but I just I love it.
It's you just feel like justsay I, I've never really felt
unsafe, I mean, I'm just therehaving a good time, like it's.
That's one of my um top threefor next year with the family.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I think aruba, yeah, yeah, you can't go wrong, you
can't go and it's nice there allthe time it's beautiful year
round.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yep, it's a little bit little rainy there this week
though, unfortunately um butyou'll get that.
I mean, that's kind of anywhere.
It's.
Yeah, I've gone to aruba, whereit was like one november, one
random november, and all theirhotels are like open air atriums
because it's perfect year round, and they got so much rain that
the roof started to collapse.
Oh no, they didn't know what todo.
(29:58):
Yeah, I was like I also don'tknow what to do.
Do I just keep drinking?
The roof is open, I can't evenget to the bar.
Do I just sit here Until youtell me to leave?
I'm going to, I'll be here.
Yeah, do you guys think, like I, just, it's like those kinds of
things, like people are goingto complain.
Oh well, I went to Aruba and itrained.
It's like, well, dude, I ithappens.
(30:21):
I mean, it's weather, I'drather be out in the rain here.
So exactly 100, and they don't.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It doesn't rain very long, like it might spring, it's
like florida, it'll rain for alittle bit and then, yeah, it's
so perfect, you know, but it'sbeing outside the hurricane belt
has its perks.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So, yeah, yeah, very true, I love it so well, I think
we have a game to play okay, doyou guys want to do a little um
this or that?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
let's do it all right , um, the first one iced coffee
on a snowy day, or hot coffeeand a heat wave oh yes, me too.
Yeah, iced coffee all the timeyep um perfect hair or perfect
teeth, teeth Hair.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I say teeth too.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I have perfect teeth.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, I don't want someone's teeth like smacking me
in the face every time we gettoo close.
Yeah, Um, um toe socks or toerings.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Don't wait.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Neither Like picture this.
Toe socks, yeah, toe ring,socks that have the toes, we
like literally put your toe.
Those are just so wild to me.
If I had to pick, I'd pick thetoe rings, because toe socks
freak me out yeah, I don't thinkI've ever worn a toe ring.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I don't know how that feels.
I've worn toe socks but I feellike not long.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I don't know Burping or farting, burping, burping.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Burping.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Jam or jelly, they're the fucking same.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yes, they're the fucking same.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I think they're the same, I guess consistency and
jam is like almost made of realfresh fruit and it has preserves
, yeah, and it has the fruitseeds in it and it's a little
thicker and darker.
I don't like either one, so itdoesn't really matter to me.
I can't stand jelly or jam, sothere's that um 70s or 80s 80s I
(32:40):
feel like 70s were very likecry baby.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
80s were like fun, so I'm only gonna pick.
70s were very like crybaby, 80swere like fun.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
So I'm only going to pick 70s, because I went to a
champagne luncheon yesterday andit was ABBA themed.
And it was all 70s music and itwas so, like some of the songs
they were playing.
I'm like, oh my God, I rememberthis song I haven't heard in
like forever and I was likesitting at the table.
I wish there was a dance floor,Cause I'd be out there.
(33:11):
You know, it was so cool.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, I think 70s had just like more upbeat music.
I could see myself in like adisco kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh same, I love it.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I could see myself doing something like that.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, I totally love it.
So I'm thinking this year's.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Christmas.
Eve theme is going to be discoby the way, I'm all in Money or
brains.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Brains, my brains will make the money.
Baby yeah, Brains.
I deal with too many people whodon't have brains but have
money.
Kind of annoying, right.
I mean, my wallet loves it, butI have a brain aneurysm most
days.
So I see brains.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Shoes or bare feet Shoes.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
In what context, though?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
We need more information in what context,
though?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
we need more information um how about when
you're out in a bar dancinghaving fun and you wear high
heel shoes and all of a suddenyour feet start to hurt and you
whip off your shoes?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
no deal with it or get syphilis like what?
Speaker 2 (34:22):
the fuck yeah because , because summertime you're
barefoot a lot, go out beach,sand, whatever, but like in a
situation where, like you mightcatch fungus, I would definitely
say shoes.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I'm like if I have heels and I'm dancing and they
hurt, I'm probably alsoinebriated, so then I don't care
I'm gonna take these off on aplane and you take your shoes
off.
I'm judging you.
Oh, yes, yes, sure, yes, yes,oh, my goodness For sure for
sure.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Oh my goodness, I don't know why people do that.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
It's disgusting.
Yeah, yes.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So real quick.
My fiance was traveling and hetold me that one time he sat
down he's getting all settled in, and the guy next to him
proceeded to take his shoes andsocks off Isn't that the same?
Rubbing his feet while theywere ready to kick off.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
They weren't even in the air yet.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
He was like holy shit , what is happening right now?
Why he said he couldn't eveneat.
It was disgusting.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I would die.
It's so gross.
Wear sandals.
If you need them breathing,wear sandals.
I don't understand it therewear sandals.
If you need them, likebreathing, wear sandals.
I don't understand it.
And there are people wholiterally go to the bathroom on
the plane without shoes on oh,worse.
And it's like no, that's like Idon't like doing it at like a
hotel, like you know, and butyou're going on in a bathroom on
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a plane with no shoes on itfreaks me out.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I don't get it.
You're not allowed to go home.
No, it's awful.
Two more Serious or silly,silly, silly Talking or
listening.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Talking.
I don't care about what youhave to say, I'm not listening.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I'm talking, I don't.
I feel like I'm mixed in both.
I like I used to be a therapista mental health therapist,
prior to being a travel agent.
Okay, I think I'm just innatelya listener, but which I mean I
think has its pros and cons, butalso helps me, like hear how to
sell you on travel.
(36:33):
So, I don't know, I guess from awork business perspective,
being a listener, but like I'malso sending like three five
minute long voice notes topeople throughout the day, being
like I just got this email, soI guess I don't know that's
(36:54):
funny.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I love that voice note.
Love it, it's all day.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I mean with the other travel agents too.
It's just like listen to thisemail I just fucking got.
This person has asked me thestupidest question I've ever
received in my life, so it'slike we have our own podcast
throughout the day.
Oh, that is so funny.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Love it so much.
So awesome, Catherine.
This has been so much fun.
You're like top of the list ofmy new favorite people.
Clearly, we have a lot ofthings going on.
So we're probably going tobring you some business and be
in contact.
But, aside from us?
Who know where to find you?
Where can people find you?
What is going on?
Share all the socials.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, so buns on the run is the main one, but you can
call me buns, that's totallyfine.
Or is it buns underscore?
I don't know, buns on the run.
Or you can visit our website,wonderlustjetsettercom.
You can contact me throughthere too.
Or, if you just want to followwhere I'm going, instagram is it
?
I try to do the TikTok.
(37:59):
I can't.
I'm more of a watcher.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, that's us too.
Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
We are definitely watching yeah it's hard.
We are definitely watching.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Instagram is where it's at yeah, instagram I mean
we wouldn't have found bunswithout instagram right funny is
like half the people in my lifeI've met through instagram.
Yeah, I met my husband throughinstagram oh, wow it's I've met
so many.
That's why I'm working at thistravel agency.
I met her through Instagram, soit's like Instagram just brings
(38:36):
people together.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Yeah, it's a good, safe place.
Everything else it's too muchwork.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I can't.
It's fucking weird.
Yeah, no, I'm in my Instagrambubble.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Awesome.
We'll be sure to link yourInstagram in our show notes, but
again, thank you so much forcoming.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
This was fun.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
And, yeah, I feel like we've got to do it again.
Yes, oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I'm sure I'll have more stories the more I travel.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Awesome.
I love it so much, Bye everyone.
Bye, take care.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Thank you for joining us on this wine-filled
adventure we would greatlyappreciate your support.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Please follow and rate our podcast on Apple
Podcasts, spotify or whereveryou're tuning in right now.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
So raise a glass, leave no wine behind and let's
continue this journey together.
Cheers.
Welcome to the no Wine Left Behind podcast, where
we truly leave no wine behind.
I'm Alex.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And I'm Celia.
We are here in the studiotogether, sharing ups and downs,
frustrations and funny momentsof our daily adventures.
So grab your favorite glass.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Join us as we raise our voices.
Together, we'll dive into thedrama of life as we see it.
Excited to introduce KatherineWhitehouse, senior Travel
Advisor at Wanderlust Jet Setter, a luxury travel agency that
has all the dreamdestination-worthy things in
mind for you, mainly weddings,honeymoons and all the luxe
(00:46):
getaways worldwide.
Catherine may have joined theindustry just two years ago, but
her passion for travel goes wayback.
Her top picks the Caribbean,mexico and pretty much anywhere
along the US West Coast.
Welcome, catherine.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Thank you.
How are you?
I'm great.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
How are?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
you.
I'm great.
How are you Good?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
good, awesome.
So number one question, becausenow that I just read the intro
it reminds me of, like the dayold age debate.
Do you say Caribbean orCaribbean?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yes, I was going to ask her that question.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I always say Caribbean because when I say
Caribbean, I'm thinking likeJohnny Depp, pirates of the
Caribbean yeah, I hear it aslike a movie trailer.
So I always say Caribbean.
That's what I default to.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, I think Caribbean too yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Glad we're all on the same beach here yes.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Catherine, tell us everything about what inspired
you to take the first steptoward building buns on the run.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Oh my God, I love the name yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So I changed that in like 2014,.
Maybe, um, maybe 13.
I don't know.
I went through our runningphase and I decided to change it
as buns on the run because Iwas a runner and I was signing
up for five Ks and I ran the NewYork marathon and I would do 10
miler every year.
So it just like you know, bunson the run.
(02:11):
And then I realized running isterrible.
I actually hate it, um, not fun, and it ended up just kind of
evolving into like buns on therun, like travel, and when I
tell you, I think most people Iknow call me buns.
I'm in their phone as buns andI think half my husband's
(02:33):
coworkers didn't know my realname, for like the first year
that we dated, I was buns.
The people call me buns.
I am not offended.
I'm like I mean, that's how youknow you've made it.
You know people start talkingabout you as your Instagram
handle.
I feel like you've made it.
(02:53):
Yeah, so that's cool.
Never change it.
I will never change it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I love that Good and it's so memorable.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Like it also makes sense yeah, there's so memorable
.
Like it also makes sense.
Yeah, there's so much to itthat's just so fitting yeah, so
I love it, so I'm, I'm keepingit.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's awesome, I agree with you on all the
running stuff, because I ran fora while and it's it is awful
yeah.
I don't.
I've had thoughts of trying itagain.
And then I say to myself whatare you thinking?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Like that Running is it being over.
So I feel like you feelaccomplished, Like when I ran
the New York Marathon, I hatedmy life and like it was great to
do and I did it for a charityand all that.
But I remember like mygirlfriend was like waiting for
me.
I couldn't find her, Like myphone was like half dead.
I'm like trying to figure outhow to meet her, Like, and I
just remember sitting it waslike eight o'clock at night in
Times Square on a corner withthe Teflon or whatever, and I,
(03:55):
when she finally found me, Isaid I need you to remind me of
this exact moment.
If I ever sign up for amarathon again, me like
basically looking homeless inTimes Square, like sweaty and
crying I need you to remind meto never do it again.
Oh, wow, Like no.
So then after that I was likeI've peaked, I'm done, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, that that was a good way to end it, though
Doing yeah went out with thegang.
Yeah, that's perfect.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Exactly Because the New York City Marathon just
happened.
I know it's funny that we'retalking on the anniversary of
that day.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
It's a great race.
I mean I would never knock it,but I think I would just never.
I cross it off and it's done,right yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Kudos to you.
That's a lot.
Yeah, it's a lot.
So what's the most surprisingthing that you learned about
yourself through this journey?
Transitioning from running bunson the run to travel buns on
the run.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It's a lot more fun and I feel like it's still
fitting because I'm for the mostpart.
Most people are like where areyou off to now?
Or they see my Instagram storyand they're like are you here?
Are you in Aruba, where are you?
And that's like I joke, becausemy personal trainer will text
me every week and be like areyou in the country this weekend?
(05:15):
I can't remember Like, and halfthe time I'm like Nope, I'm not
.
Or like it's.
It's just so funny that nowthat's it Buns is me just not.
Is being on a plane somewhere?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah.
So what takes you to all thesedifferent destinations?
Obviously, your your work, butlike why do you go there to
check out the hotels?
Or like see, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, I do it's.
My travel now is a lot of likemainly work.
I mean, it's a lot of fun too.
I try to fit that in.
But when I go to like a newdestination or one that I've
been to before, I try to set upwhat we call site inspections.
So, like for Aruba, for example, I've been to every single
resort there, either stayingthere or on a business meeting.
So I email the resort like aweek or two in advance and I say
(06:04):
, hey, I'm going to be in Aruba,I'd love to meet you.
And they take me around andit's like an hour, half hour and
I get to see the resort morefrom a business perspective.
They show me the different roomcategories, the restaurants,
kids clubs, spas, gyms.
That way I get a sense of whatit's like so that I can sell it
Right.
Okay, so much easier to sellsomething if you've seen it
(06:27):
personally.
Right, you know Expedia canonly tell you so much, tiktok
and Instagram can only tell youso much.
So it's nice to actually go,because there are resorts that
I've been to where I'm like Iwould never send someone here,
or I know I would never send afamily here, or I know this
resort is good for this tieredbudget, or that's what I like to
(06:49):
do.
So, like, in a couple of weeksI'm going to the Dominican and
I'm going to try to set up abunch just to see the ones that
I sell the most and see okay,why do my clients really like it
here?
I mean, I like it on paper, Ihaven't got any complaints about
it.
But I want to see it for myselfand figure out, like, okay, I
know exactly who to send it tosend this.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It would be interesting to hear your
perspective on the DominicanRepublic, because I've never
been there.
I've gotten a lot of mixedreviews.
I've gotten people that love itand will keep going back.
I've gotten people that havegotten really sick coming home
or gotten really there, and thenpeople that are like, nah, it's
okay, one and done type thing.
(07:30):
So, I'd be interesting from atravel person's point of view,
because these are just peoplethat go on vacation.
They're not travel experts oranything like that.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So yeah, that.
So yeah, that's.
One of my hot takes is that Iget so angry when people go to
someplace once and maybe have abad experience and they just
will never do it again.
And then that is, and I I hatethat, because you might like I
went to the Bahamas and Ipersonally didn't like it.
(08:03):
Like I went to the Bahamas andI personally didn't like it.
It wasn't my favorite, I knowpeople like it, but I went one
time and I might go again and Imight love it.
And I hate when people go onceand then they tell everyone oh,
don't go there, oh I got sickonce, or I it rained the whole
time, because I'm in the workingseason and I didn't look whole
(08:27):
time, because I'm in thehurricane season and I didn't
look.
It's like I hate that becausegive it a second chance.
Like, maybe you had a badtravel day, maybe you had a
layover getting there, maybe youweren't feeling good when you
got there, and now it's justsnowballing into a negative
experience.
But also, on the flip side, youget what you pay for.
So if someone's like, oh, Iwent to the Dominican and I
stayed at X resort, and I said,well, how much what you pay for.
So if someone's like, oh, Iwent to the Dominican and I
stayed at X resort and I said,well, how much did you pay for
(08:49):
it?
And they're like oh, it waslike $200 a night.
That's probably why you weresick, you know?
Like, what do you pay for with?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
these things.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
It's hard when people have this champagne taste on a
beer budget because it's likeI'm trying to only send you to
the quality resorts.
I'm telling you like, yeah, youmight, I could get you to the
dominican for 700.
I could also get you to theemergency room for that.
So it's up to you.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
What, what you want, what's a nine-hour layover in
the Emeralds?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, I love that, so it drives me crazy.
Yeah, one of my pet peeves.
Okay, that is so funny.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
So in the intro I had mentioned weddings, honeymoons
and then just all aroundall-encompassing kind of travel.
So what is your favorite tobook?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Honeymoons.
Really I love honeymoon.
I love booking honeymoons Well,destination weddings too.
I get super excited becauseit's not just like a one-off
kind of thing.
I'm like in with the brides forlike a year, you know, going
back and forth and helping themget everything situated, with
their guests and logistics andeverything like that.
So it's like more of arelationship, you know, with
(10:06):
that Um.
But I love booking honeymoonsbecause they're they're just
couples are so excited there.
They want this to be like thisultra experience, like doesn't
have to cost an arm and a leg ora mortgage to go.
But they want this like.
They want someplace unique.
They want some place that'sgoing to give them everything
and more.
They want a good spa, a beach,or they want this unique Italy
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experience.
They want to do a multi and gomake limoncello, like they want
to do the things that you know.
If you're just like, well, I dowant to go to Italy next summer
, it's like not as passionate, Iguess is like the right word.
Like they just want to go toItaly next summer, it's like not
as passionate, I guess is likethe right word.
They just they get so excited.
And then I get excited and I'mlike I want to give you this I
want to give you everything andmore, and I want you to have
like the best time ever.
I love, I love bookinghoneymoons, like that's just my,
(10:51):
my jam.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's so sweet.
How do you handle the peoplewho are indecisive or going on
the honeymoon honeymoon, whowant to have a destination
wedding but they don't know whatexperiences they want to have,
or they don't know where theywant their friends and family to
experience with them?
So how do you figure?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
that out.
So a lot of the destinationweddings that I do personally
are Caribbean, and it can be along conversation.
I have some brides who are likeI want this resort and this
resort, only let's get thiscontracted.
I have some brides who are likeI want this resort and this
resort, only let's get thiscontracted.
I have some who are like Ithink I want the Caribbean, or
like oh, I love Aruba, I reallywant to do Aruba.
(11:30):
And then when I give them theprice tag, they're like don't do
that it's a lot of back andforth trying to find the perfect
spot for them.
That's also not going to breakthe bank for their guests
because it is an expense forthem for you know their guests
to come um.
But you know the the dominican,mexico and jamaica are
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typically the I don't.
They're the lowest cost, youknow.
But you get more for your moneywith those because you're going
to be all inclusive.
You know you're going to get agreat room block rate.
There are a lot of familyfriendly ones, you know, on the
beach.
So it is a lot of back andforth.
You know I can give myrecommendations and say this
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this resort I know is reallygood with weddings, or this
resort has, you know, apreferred club or a kid's club
that you might need.
And then I get.
I go and get their quotes.
So the quotes are complimentary, like we don't charge any
travel planning fees at all.
So we might go back and forthfor a while and say how do you
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feel about the pricing for this,how do you feel about the
pricing for this?
And then, once we get thatlocked in it's, I get them in
touch with the weddingcoordinator, I get them in touch
with the vendors, like it's asa first point of contact and
then like then we kind of gothrough the most, but it can be
a lot.
You know, I've I've had brideswhere they're like, you know,
(12:51):
like I said, they want a Rubaand then they see the price tag
and it's not all inclusive andthey're like so I always go
default to like the Dominican orMexico, because you're going to
get, going to get some qualityresorts for less.
I mean, I have two bridesgetting married next October in
the Dominican at Dreams Flora,and that's where I'm staying
next month, and they it's likewildly affordable and it's like
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a five star resort.
Yeah, so it's, you know it's,it's a win win.
You get to spend the best dayof your life with family and
friends.
You don't have to take out yourwallet once.
I mean to me, I lovedestination weddings.
I know people have very strongopinions about destination
weddings, but I think I don'tknow, put me on a plane and get
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me out of here.
I'd rather go there than NewHampshire for your wedding.
All right, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I love to travel, so take me anywhere out of
Massachusetts.
I live in Massachusetts, sotake me anywhere out of
Massachusetts, I'll be happy.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, exactly, I don't care it might be every
single morning, I would love itand I also love to, like I've
had.
You know what I say to thebrides too to not get so like in
the weeds with your guests,because they will give you
opinions and it's just going todiscourage you, right?
So if, like I would ratherbecause I I deal with all the
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bookings like they have to cometo me to get the quotes and
everything, if your aunt karenis going to email me and give
like shit for basically saying Ican't spend this much, that's
so expensive, I'd rather I'drather get it than the bride.
I don't want her to bediscouraged, or the group or
like yeah, I don't make theprices.
My guy, this is, this is what itis, this is what they want.
(14:34):
Right, you don't have to go.
I'd rather be that.
I'm like a bouncer.
You can talk shit all you wantabout this price.
It's still their day.
I'm the wrong person.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That's right.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
What about?
Do you have any?
What would be your top threedestinations for family?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
vacations For families.
I would say leave the kid homeand go on a vacation.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's not possible, yeah, but if it's not possible
to leave the kid home, then wealso leave behind certain family
members.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I would say so.
I love like beaches resorts.
They're part of like Sandals,the family friendly version.
I probably sell beaches, turksand Caicos the most for families
because it comes with so much.
I mean it's Disneyland onsteroids but better and you just
you get everything and it's I.
(15:37):
I have a lot of likemulti-generational families that
want to travel, likegrandparents and grandkids and
everything.
Yeah, he just starts in Caicosis probably the best, the best
one, cause you can get somegreat rooms you can all like
they can accommodate the largegroups for dinners and lunches
and I mean they really have, andthey have a kid's club.
So the kid's club is includedand you can drop the kids off,
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have a great time with certifiednannies and all that, and then
you know like everyone's goingto have a great time, right,
right Cool.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
We did a family trip last year.
It was actually our first likeI go with my family on vacation
every year, first, like I gowith my family on vacation every
year.
But it was the first time wetook, like the rest of the
family, like the nieces, thenephews, the grandchildren, the
boyfriends, husbands, everybody.
There was 17 of us.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
We went on a cruise.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It was the best, and everyone said it was one of the
best trips they've had in areally long time, so it was
awesome did you leave out ofboston or did you leave out of?
Miami, florida.
Yeah, yeah, I booked the wholething.
It was a lot.
Yeah, it was a lot of work,yeah, um, but it was worth it.
(16:57):
We it was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
And it went so smoothly.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, it went really smooth, Like there was no issue,
Like the flight was smooth.
I mean, the flight coming homewas not the best.
She ended up getting stuck inMiami overnight and her flight
was canceled.
Really yeah, but everythingelse was fine.
The cruise was smooth, thedinners were great.
It was really, really, reallygood.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So, 2025,.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
We're looking to do something else.
We're not sure if we want to doanother cruise or if we want to
go to Aruba or just one placefor five, six days.
So I'm kind of mulling thataround and trying to figure out
where we're going to end up.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
So it's hard with a group to like coordinate all
that stuff.
Cruises are great for groupstoo, cause it's just you're all.
You're all in one place.
You know, I think I personallythink you get more bang for your
buck going to an all inclusive,like going to one destination.
But people love cruises, I meanthey.
They cause you get to stop atmultiple places.
For me, Like.
(18:00):
I, I want to experience culture.
I want to experience, likeIsland, that I can't do that in
six hours.
Right, right, I won't get backon the boat, so I just need to,
like, I need to go there, youknow, but cruises are.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
They're a great option.
Yeah, that's.
I'm considering doing an Islandnext year, like not sure which
one, but that's kind of what I'mleaning towards.
It's going to be all inclusivebecause they're going to be so
many of us that, exactly I gotto make sure everybody can eat
when they want to eat.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, I mean, like if you're traveling with young
kids, you don't want to have to,like you want all inclusive you
want that ease that.
If they don't like something,then you can just go back up to
the buffet or order somethingelse.
Same with picky adults too.
Go to Ron Quist.
If you don't like it, justorder something else.
That's the way to go,especially with kids.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah definitely, Totally totally.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And then the experiences like you touched on.
You had just gotten back fromMexico and you were there for
the Day of the Dead.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
That is amazing.
How was that it was incrediblewas that it was the timing or
did it?
Was that happenstance?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
uh, so we did it on purpose.
We went for, specifically, theday of the dead.
So my husband's uncle and hishusband live in mexico, in san
miguel de allende, and theyinvited us this year for day of
the dead and we stayed at theirhouse, which was incredible,
incredible.
And they, as a travel agent I'msuch a bad traveler myself Like
I do everything last minute.
(19:25):
I don't make decisions formyself Like I just I'm like, oh,
okay, I should probably book aflight we leave tomorrow.
Like it's, I just don't, I'm sofocused on everyone else's plan
.
But I'm like, oh no, where arewe staying?
I need to find that out.
So, thankfully, they prettymuch planned it.
Like I told them the flightsthat we booked, they took us to
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the most incredible restaurants.
Um, like, when I tell you likeall family owned, everyone there
was so friendly, so kind, sogenerous, so humble, it was like
, like why?
Why on earth do we live here?
I want to go back to Mexico.
We went to this family-ownedrestaurant twice.
(20:07):
They had a food truck to start,and they decided it was raining
one day.
They couldn't sell food.
So they were like, okay, we'lljust have people come to our
house and sell food that way andthey became so popular that
they turned their house into therestaurant.
Oh wow, now they live somewhereelse, so we're literally eating
(20:29):
in their home.
And we had three margaritas wekept joking because they were
like this big and two entreesand a dessert with 20% tip.
It came to $60.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh my God, oh my.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
God or whatever.
It is in pesos, but it was 60us dollars and the food quality
was incredible and we did um,they had a makeup artist come.
We did the whole day of thedead.
We went and saw the altars, sothey have uh, it's more of like
a celebration of life, like it'sthere's no morning.
It's just we're celebrating ourloved ones that passed on and
(21:00):
they leave out food like theirfavorite food or favorite drinks
.
We saw like whiskey bottles andtequila bottles on these altars
and I mean they take like daysto make.
Like you know, they're makingdesigns out of beads and straw
and all this stuff.
And it was.
It was incredible.
It was the most incredibleexperience.
I felt like when we were in theparade, I almost felt like I
was running a marathon, butwithout the running, because
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there was so many people like onthe sidelines cheering and like
taking pictures and like it wasjust.
It was so cool it was.
It was absolutely like the mostincredible experience.
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
It sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Liver of awesomeness through your stories.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, I can only imagine liver of awesomeness
through your stories.
I took so many pictures andvideos.
I just I need to like actuallysit and like make a reel about
it.
But it's like this little town,like in four hours outside of
Mexico city and I never knew itexisted and it was like it was
incredible and there's so manyexpats there.
I was shocked, Like so manypeople from the U?
(22:00):
S that have bought propertythere, that live there or they
live there part time, fromLondon, people from Canada that
like own property there.
That's so fast, Like geez, thismight be my retirement plan.
I just have to learn it wasgreat, it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So sweet, wow Sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So what are some of your other personal bucket list
destinations?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
There's a lot.
So I well, I'm going to Belizein January, super excited about
that.
That's been on my list for awhile.
I would say I really want to goto Dubai and Qatar and do like
that area.
Greece I would love to islandhop.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's on my list.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Amsterdam is on it.
I think I'm trying to plan itso like I could do like
Amsterdam, greece, dubaiai, likebasically, if I'm over there,
anyway, just let me oh yeah, youget it um, be there a couple
weeks and do a whole tour.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, oh yeah I would be.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I'd be going.
I just go to one country andcome back um, and I, I really
want to go to the azores.
I want to go.
So bad yeah like only a 5 hourdirect flight from Boston,
you're in the Hawaii of Europe.
I mean it's so cheap onceyou're there 8 hours is insane
it's not that far.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It's closer than flying to California.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
So why not go for a quick?
Some people go to Californiafor a quick weekend.
Why not go to the Azores?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
we want to go there too.
It's beautiful I have friendswho are from there.
Um, a woman I work with and andthey go all the time, like they
go every year and they justthey love it.
And she said it's so cheap butwhen they go they'll go and do
like island hop, like they'll goto like four different places.
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They're gone for days but theyare just on the move, like go,
go, go.
Yeah, it's a quick flight.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
It's like a 30 minute flight or something between the
islands.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Anytime I look at a new destination, I want to go.
I want to go to Columbia, Iwant to go like I just want to
go everywhere.
I want to go places that peopledon't want to go either.
So, I can say it's fine whenpeople are like, oh my God, I
could never go to Mexico.
I'm like, oh my God, shut up,like why.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
You know that's funny that you say that because
people do like.
Over the last couple of yearsI've heard people say a lot of
terrible things about Mexico andhow it's dangerous and the
cartels, and you know.
Then, and then obviously yousee the the news making people
even more scared when they showlike someone got shot on the
beach by a guy in a freaking uh,what is it?
Um, a jet ski?
Yeah well, I mean, we don'tknow the backstory to that, but
(24:56):
when people see that news youknow what I mean that little bit
of news they're like oh, yeah,they oh yeah, I have friends
that won't go there.
They absolutely will not gothere because of what they hear
on the news?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yep, yeah, I mean, do they forget that they live in
the United States?
I mean, I felt wildly safe inMexico and I, half the time, I
don't even want to leave in.
Mexico and half the time I don'teven want to leave here.
So that's the thing, and Ithink a lot of people, it's a
lot of fear-mongering in thenews.
Yes, to be honest, you see thebad, you don't see the good.
(25:33):
And with Mexico, for example Iheard about that jet ski thing A
lot of it has to do with thecartels.
Cartels are very specific.
They're if they're going aftersomeone, the person they're
going after is at the resort.
They go after that one person.
They rely on Americans comingand buying their drugs.
(25:53):
Let's be honest.
They rely on tourism, so they'renot going to deliberately just
attack people.
There might be a casualty alongthe way by mistake, but they
are very targeted.
So just don't join a cartel andyou'll have a fabulous time.
That's all you have to do.
But they are very targeted.
So like, just don't join acartel and you'll have a
fabulous time.
(26:14):
That's all you have to.
Just, you're going to go rightto the resort.
You're going to drinkmargaritas, so you blackout.
You're going to have so manytacos.
Don't join a cartel and you'refine.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Sign me up.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Sign me up.
Margaritas and tacos.
Hi, I'm in.
Come on, come on, it drives menuts.
Same with jamaica.
People do the same thing aboutjamaica.
I I think jamaica is abeautiful country.
I love the culture.
The water is so blue, the foodis oh, chef's kiss like I just.
And people are like, oh, I cannever go to jamaica.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
And I'm like again it's the same thing though all
of a sudden, j is a dangerousplace to go.
It's a category a, red um, yeahlevel four whatever like that.
Yeah, I'm like when did thathappen?
Cause I've been to Jamaica,I've been to Mexico and I've had
great time and I've never hadan issue.
So I'm like when did theseplaces become dangerous?
Well, were they alwaysdangerous?
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And I just was like too busyhaving fun at my resort and
that's the thing is, like peopledon't.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
They don't seem to realize, like, especially for me
, if you hire me as your travelagent, like I'm setting up
reliable, safe transportation,I'm sending you to quality
resorts that are safe, thatpeople love, that like either
I've been to personally or thatI've had clients go to and love
it.
I get the hesitation of tryinga new destination, but I've gone
(27:33):
to Jamaica by myself.
I go to Aruba by myself.
I go places by myself as awoman and I feel safer there.
When I was in Aruba years ago,we went to a local bar.
My friend got roofied and oneof my friends who lives in aruba
saw it and said let's go, we'reout of here.
Wow, so it can happen anywhere.
(27:56):
But like I also make friendswith people who I know I can
trust, right, or you know, ifI'm gonna go do the more
cultural experiences.
So it's just people, just theydon't try to think of the right
wording, it's just they probablyjust using common sense, I mean
, you know.
So it's just that's even.
That's the other problem, butit's, yeah, I mean, I don't know
(28:21):
.
I just I feel I feel sorry forthose people that don't want to
go to these destinations basedon what they saw on the news.
Right, right, yeah, they'rewonderful.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, oh, I agree.
Been to a lot of places, so Ibelieve me.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And I love to travel, so sign me up for anything.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Literally Like Dillian and I have younger kids
and my daughter just turned 18.
And her and two of her bestfriends they went to Aruba by
themselves, graduated highschool, went to aruba by
themselves, graduated highschool, went to aruba.
Yeah, was I nervous?
Yeah, a little bit, but alsoyou're 18, like you have to
experience these things.
And they did everything theycould to be safe and they came
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back just fine with tattoos yeah, tattoos, that was like mind
Just that in itself.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
But yeah.
I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I, I love Aruba, like I, just I.
I I go there too much, I think,but I just I love it.
It's you just feel like justsay I, I've never really felt
unsafe, I mean, I'm just therehaving a good time, like it's.
That's one of my um top threefor next year with the family.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I think aruba, yeah, yeah, you can't go wrong, you
can't go and it's nice there allthe time it's beautiful year
round.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yep, it's a little bit little rainy there this week
though, unfortunately um butyou'll get that.
I mean, that's kind of anywhere.
It's.
Yeah, I've gone to aruba, whereit was like one november, one
random november, and all theirhotels are like open air atriums
because it's perfect year round, and they got so much rain that
the roof started to collapse.
Oh no, they didn't know what todo.
(29:58):
Yeah, I was like I also don'tknow what to do.
Do I just keep drinking?
The roof is open, I can't evenget to the bar.
Do I just sit here Until youtell me to leave?
I'm going to, I'll be here.
Yeah, do you guys think, like I, just, it's like those kinds of
things, like people are goingto complain.
Oh well, I went to Aruba and itrained.
It's like, well, dude, I ithappens.
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I mean, it's weather, I'drather be out in the rain here.
So exactly 100, and they don't.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It doesn't rain very long, like it might spring, it's
like florida, it'll rain for alittle bit and then, yeah, it's
so perfect, you know, but it'sbeing outside the hurricane belt
has its perks.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So, yeah, yeah, very true, I love it so well, I think
we have a game to play okay, doyou guys want to do a little um
this or that?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
let's do it all right , um, the first one iced coffee
on a snowy day, or hot coffeeand a heat wave oh yes, me too.
Yeah, iced coffee all the timeyep um perfect hair or perfect
teeth, teeth Hair.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I say teeth too.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I have perfect teeth.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, I don't want someone's teeth like smacking me
in the face every time we gettoo close.
Yeah, Um, um toe socks or toerings.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Don't wait.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Neither Like picture this.
Toe socks, yeah, toe ring,socks that have the toes, we
like literally put your toe.
Those are just so wild to me.
If I had to pick, I'd pick thetoe rings, because toe socks
freak me out yeah, I don't thinkI've ever worn a toe ring.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I don't know how that feels.
I've worn toe socks but I feellike not long.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I don't know Burping or farting, burping, burping.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Burping.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Jam or jelly, they're the fucking same.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yes, they're the fucking same.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I think they're the same, I guess consistency and
jam is like almost made of realfresh fruit and it has preserves
, yeah, and it has the fruitseeds in it and it's a little
thicker and darker.
I don't like either one, so itdoesn't really matter to me.
I can't stand jelly or jam, sothere's that um 70s or 80s 80s I
(32:40):
feel like 70s were very likecry baby.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
80s were like fun, so I'm only gonna pick.
70s were very like crybaby, 80swere like fun.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
So I'm only going to pick 70s, because I went to a
champagne luncheon yesterday andit was ABBA themed.
And it was all 70s music and itwas so, like some of the songs
they were playing.
I'm like, oh my God, I rememberthis song I haven't heard in
like forever and I was likesitting at the table.
I wish there was a dance floor,Cause I'd be out there.
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You know, it was so cool.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, I think 70s had just like more upbeat music.
I could see myself in like adisco kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh same, I love it.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I could see myself doing something like that.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, I totally love it.
So I'm thinking this year's.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Christmas.
Eve theme is going to be discoby the way, I'm all in Money or
brains.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Brains, my brains will make the money.
Baby yeah, Brains.
I deal with too many people whodon't have brains but have
money.
Kind of annoying, right.
I mean, my wallet loves it, butI have a brain aneurysm most
days.
So I see brains.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Shoes or bare feet Shoes.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
In what context, though?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
We need more information in what context,
though?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
we need more information um how about when
you're out in a bar dancinghaving fun and you wear high
heel shoes and all of a suddenyour feet start to hurt and you
whip off your shoes?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
no deal with it or get syphilis like what?
Speaker 2 (34:22):
the fuck yeah because , because summertime you're
barefoot a lot, go out beach,sand, whatever, but like in a
situation where, like you mightcatch fungus, I would definitely
say shoes.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I'm like if I have heels and I'm dancing and they
hurt, I'm probably alsoinebriated, so then I don't care
I'm gonna take these off on aplane and you take your shoes
off.
I'm judging you.
Oh, yes, yes, sure, yes, yes,oh, my goodness For sure for
sure.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Oh my goodness, I don't know why people do that.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
It's disgusting.
Yeah, yes.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So real quick.
My fiance was traveling and hetold me that one time he sat
down he's getting all settled in, and the guy next to him
proceeded to take his shoes andsocks off Isn't that the same?
Rubbing his feet while theywere ready to kick off.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
They weren't even in the air yet.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
He was like holy shit , what is happening right now?
Why he said he couldn't eveneat.
It was disgusting.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I would die.
It's so gross.
Wear sandals.
If you need them breathing,wear sandals.
I don't understand it therewear sandals.
If you need them, likebreathing, wear sandals.
I don't understand it.
And there are people wholiterally go to the bathroom on
the plane without shoes on oh,worse.
And it's like no, that's like Idon't like doing it at like a
hotel, like you know, and butyou're going on in a bathroom on
(35:46):
a plane with no shoes on itfreaks me out.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I don't get it.
You're not allowed to go home.
No, it's awful.
Two more Serious or silly,silly, silly Talking or
listening.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Talking.
I don't care about what youhave to say, I'm not listening.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I'm talking, I don't.
I feel like I'm mixed in both.
I like I used to be a therapista mental health therapist,
prior to being a travel agent.
Okay, I think I'm just innatelya listener, but which I mean I
think has its pros and cons, butalso helps me, like hear how to
sell you on travel.
(36:33):
So, I don't know, I guess from awork business perspective,
being a listener, but like I'malso sending like three five
minute long voice notes topeople throughout the day, being
like I just got this email, soI guess I don't know that's
(36:54):
funny.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I love that voice note.
Love it, it's all day.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I mean with the other travel agents too.
It's just like listen to thisemail I just fucking got.
This person has asked me thestupidest question I've ever
received in my life, so it'slike we have our own podcast
throughout the day.
Oh, that is so funny.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Love it so much.
So awesome, Catherine.
This has been so much fun.
You're like top of the list ofmy new favorite people.
Clearly, we have a lot ofthings going on.
So we're probably going tobring you some business and be
in contact.
But, aside from us?
Who know where to find you?
Where can people find you?
What is going on?
Share all the socials.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, so buns on the run is the main one, but you can
call me buns, that's totallyfine.
Or is it buns underscore?
I don't know, buns on the run.
Or you can visit our website,wonderlustjetsettercom.
You can contact me throughthere too.
Or, if you just want to followwhere I'm going, instagram is it
?
I try to do the TikTok.
(37:59):
I can't.
I'm more of a watcher.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, that's us too.
Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
We are definitely watching yeah it's hard.
We are definitely watching.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Instagram is where it's at yeah, instagram I mean
we wouldn't have found bunswithout instagram right funny is
like half the people in my lifeI've met through instagram.
Yeah, I met my husband throughinstagram oh, wow it's I've met
so many.
That's why I'm working at thistravel agency.
I met her through Instagram, soit's like Instagram just brings
(38:36):
people together.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Yeah, it's a good, safe place.
Everything else it's too muchwork.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I can't.
It's fucking weird.
Yeah, no, I'm in my Instagrambubble.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Awesome.
We'll be sure to link yourInstagram in our show notes, but
again, thank you so much forcoming.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
This was fun.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
And, yeah, I feel like we've got to do it again.
Yes, oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I'm sure I'll have more stories the more I travel.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Awesome.
I love it so much, Bye everyone.
Bye, take care.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Thank you for joining us on this wine-filled
adventure we would greatlyappreciate your support.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Please follow and rate our podcast on Apple
Podcasts, spotify or whereveryou're tuning in right now.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
So raise a glass, leave no wine behind and let's
continue this journey together.
Cheers.
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