November 28, 2024 • 33 mins
Is the chaos in your home a reflection of your inner world? On this episode of No Wine Left Behind, we chat with Tina from Tidy by Tina, who shares her inspiring journey from battling ADHD, postpartum depression, and sobriety challenges to becoming an organizing queen.
Discover how she turned life's messiness into a passion for creating simple, budget-friendly systems that bring peace to any home. Tina offers practical decluttering tips, strategies for overcoming sentimental attachments, and advice on finding balance in family life.
Tune in for laughs, wisdom, and actionable ideas to transform your space—and your mindset!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the no Wine Left Behind podcast, where
we truly leave no wine behind.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Alex and I'm Celia.
We are here in the studiotogether, sharing ups and downs,
frustrations and funny momentsof our daily adventures.
So grab your favorite glass.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Join us as we raise our voices.
Together, we'll dive into thedrama of life.
As we see it, today's guest isseriously awesome.
We're joined by Tina.
This is such a tongue twisterfor me.
I love you so much, but I'mgoing to try and do you very
good justice, tina.
From Tidy by Tina, thank you.
(00:37):
I appreciate that.
A total pro at transformingmessy spaces into places of calm
and tranquility, we all need alittle bit of that in our lives.
As a mom navigating ADHD andsobriety, tina gets real.
She understands I'll say reallife chaos that we all face and
(00:58):
knows exactly how to tackle itwith style, from organizing
hacks to staying grounded.
She's here to share her journeyand tips that are perfect for
anyone balancing all of thethings.
So let's dive into it with Tina, thank you so much for having
me?
Yeah, of course.
Thank you so much for joining.
(01:19):
I am obsessed with yourInstagram.
And even though it's in thename.
I know that you are likeorganizing queen, sponsored by
I'm not sure like.
I don't want to like get thewording incorrect, but you have
a great partnership with a verylarge store that I'm obsessed
(01:42):
with.
But there's just somethingabout you and your page that
gives like life coach vibes.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh wow, thanks, that's, such a compliment.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You should consider another, another venture.
But what inspired you to startyour business?
Was there a specific moment oran experience that sparked that
passion for organizing?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I kind of tell everybody this, but it was my
own mental breakdown.
I had my daughters 13 yearsapart.
So as any new mom right,whether you have one kid or six
kids, bringing a new baby homereally adds to the dynamic of
chaos that already exists in thefamily home, right.
(02:26):
So I added another child after13 years and in the very
beginning of COVID.
I was pregnant.
During COVID, in the very earlymonths, like found out a week
before that my husband could bein the room with me.
You know it was like such adifferent time.
I'm grateful we're not thereanymore.
But out of all of that chaoscame, you know, really serious
(02:50):
postpartum depression and I wasjust at a point where I felt so
lost and so like just such afailure because I couldn't do it
.
Like I had a 13 year old.
I know I could keep a kid aliveRight.
But like why can't I get thelaundry put away?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Why can't I?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
load the dishwasher.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I like well, it's because I was like not sleeping
and not, you know, I was.
Life was just a littledifferent.
So going to therapy and gettingdiagnosed with ADHD and kind of
feeling like, oh, okay, likethis makes sense for me, like it
just my whole school career, mycareer, made sense, the way I,
(03:32):
you know, function throughoutthe day, just like it all
started to like feel clear to me.
I'm like, okay, so all I needto do is like create little
hacks or little systems thatwill just get me through the day
.
Like it sucks that I have tolive this way, but if I have to
put a little piece of paper nextto my mirror to make sure I
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brush my teeth twice a day, thenthat's just what we got to do.
Right With that.
I love social media.
I love sharing about my life,just because it helps me stay
connected with my friends on theWest Coast and my family that's
on the West Coast.
So sharing that, hey, this issomething that like it's helping
me.
And since we're all stuck athome with our kids and our
(04:15):
husbands and our families, like,and with all the Amazon boxes
and all the things, that we'rebuying to like try to keep our
kids entertained while we'reworking, you know, and we were
transforming, like remember, wewere transforming bedrooms into
classrooms and to offices and tolike we were just completely
revamping our lives.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So I just it just started as a way to share with
like my friends who also hadbabies in the same age.
I was like this is how I sawher close between like zero to
three months and three to sixmonths and six to nine months,
because I know it seems like itdoesn't really matter, but it
does.
It just kind of like there wasa need for it.
(04:57):
at that time I think we were allyearning for community and
connection and it organicallyjust kind of started and I'm
like, look, if I could just helpone mom one mom feel like she's
not a total piece of shit andshe's like a normal person, that
(05:19):
just because she can't keep upwith you know, know, five
people's loads of laundry likethat doesn't make her not
successful.
Or just because she has tospend, you know, a Saturday
cleaning up the playroom doesn'tmean that she doesn't teach her
kids the best values, subscribeso much meaning to our homes.
(05:44):
The status this, like status ofhow everybody else looks,
reflects on us.
Right, if your kid is messylooking and oh, she must not
care, she must it all comes backto us yeah so I wanted to help
moms kind of give themselvessome grace, yeah, and let go of
that stigma, because that stigmajust leans into like a spiral
(06:07):
and it's so hard to get out ofonce you're in it.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So all of this just started from, like, a desire to
want to, like take that feelingaway from another mom.
That's a great like triumphantstory out of like a really
difficult time yeah it's reallytough and I think we've all been
whether you've had a touch ofpostpartum for a weeks of you
know, recover like I just thinkthat we've all been there before
(06:36):
as moms, just being feelingdefeated.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, that feeling of like it's hard to push past
that I've lived in the hood andthe hardest hood is motherhood.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Let me tell you, just trying to survive, just trying
to get, by.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I love it, and the fact that you're trying to
survive and while doing so youhave this desire to help others
just speaks volumes to yourcharacter and to your point,
what you truly are capable of.
You know you had one daughter.
You knew that you could do itwith another.
It was just a little bit morechallenging the second time
around.
So, yeah, I think that's justso commendable.
(07:16):
And again, why I think youshould be a life coach.
Thank you so much.
Go from organizing closets toorganizing lives, Organizing
your lives.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I know what I'm trying to do here, which I know,
like once I become a marriagetherapist, a parenting coach,
you know, because I'm in yourshit, like I'm literally in your
underwear drawer, like I see itall.
There's no hiding it from me,because I have to help you
figure out how to organize allthose things you know, get very
(07:47):
close with my clients.
They become like family.
I know all the family drama andthe toxic relationships and the
mother-in-laws and thebrother-in-laws right like I
know all of it and I'm just, I'ma person who, like, it doesn't
matter to me, right?
You can tell me whatever.
I'm going to obviously takeyour side, like you're so right,
(08:10):
girlfriend?
I can't believe they did that.
But I'm also going to be honestwith you and be like, okay,
it's time to let go of youreighth grade winter formal dress
.
You don't need it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Which is one of my questions, right, like where do
you start?
How do you do it?
I'm sure it presents itschallenges, because some people
don't want to get rid of things.
You know, obviously it'sdifficult for people to do your
clients to do, which is why theybring you on.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So like what is that?
Like yeah, so for the most part, when people bring me in, they,
they, I'm like okay, just tellme what frustrates you the most
is my number one question, right?
They're like I literally don'tknow.
I feel stuck, I feel so lost,like I can't even tell you.
It all bothers me, the wholehouse, everything, every space.
(08:54):
And so I just start by walkinghome with them and seeing like
their body language in a room,seeing where do you like, where
do your shoulders shrug up?
You're like, oh, like, I'm sosorry, like this is not how it
usually is.
Or this is just my guest room,this is my doom room, right?
(09:14):
I hear the same things likeyou've never heard doom room
before.
Did it organize?
Only moved.
So that means like when youtake the pile from your kitchen
and put it on your dining roomtable to sit there for like
another week or you take theload of laundry and you put it
in the guest room until you haveguests again.
So I do it.
(09:35):
That's the only reason why I'msaying any of this is because I
live this way too, and so youknow I I can also see myself in
a lot of these clients and I tryto figure out what is most
vital to the family.
So every family is different.
Some people have kids, somepeople are older, some people
have a mixed family, like I tryto take into consideration what
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is the natural family dynamic?
What is their daily life like?
What are their hobbies?
What are their lifestyles?
What are their schedules right?
Is their mom waking up at 4.30in the morning and dad's not
getting home till 9 at PM?
What does that look like?
And then I take it and figureout what are the spaces they're
mostly in.
So if you have a little baby,you're mostly in the living room
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, right, Because you have to beclose by to where you can feed
the baby, entertain the baby andkind of get things done.
So most of your time with azero to two year old is spent in
your common space.
As the kids get older theydevelop their own spaces.
So there might be a playroomand then there might be a
homework room, a playroom andthen there might be a homework
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room.
So I just try to really look atthe family as a holistic
characteristic and just dissectand figure out like, okay, where
is it in their lives that theyneed the most organization?
Is that okay?
All kids are school age, so thekitchen needs to be like
militant right it needs tofunction so well.
There cannot be an extraTupperware lid anywhere that
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doesn't match.
So I try to really figure outwhat is going to be the most
helpful to the adults in thehouse and it's also going to
lead to a little bit ofindependence and autonomy for
the kids.
Because like, yeah, I can comein and make it look perfect for
you and you're going to love me,and then within four hours it's
going to look nothing like whatI left it and so I want to
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leave it in a way where youreight year old, your four year
old, your 36 year old husbandwould be able to put things away
themselves.
It feels like natural, right,like you're not learning a whole
new way to live.
After I come into your house.
I'm learning you.
My job is to learn how you live.
Your job is not to pay me moneyto go and spend money at you
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know, a fancy container storething.
And then you know I'm not goingto just sell you like my.
I'm not going to sell you likeclear, pretty bin.
I'm going to make sure thatanything I do bring in your
house is going to addfunctionality.
So I have to figure that out.
(12:13):
So like I go in and say I'mstarting in your kitchen, I'm
bringing out all of the shit.
We're bringing out all of thebaking stuff that you bought
every single Christmas Cause youswore that was going to be the
Christmas you started bakingcookies with your kids.
And we're going to bring out allof the candles that you buy for
every single buddy's birthday,even though you have five boxes
(12:34):
of candles at home.
And we're going to go throughit and you're going to laugh at
yourself.
I'm going to make you like, wow, this is ridiculous, as you're
like I don't know why my mommade me or like saved all of
these childhood books, but Ineed to take them out so I can
put my kids books on thebookshelf Right, and that's like
real life.
I'm like all right, justremember what you're saying,
(12:55):
because your kids in 30 yearswill be upset that you're
keeping these books right now.
So I just that's my approachwhen I'm working with people
Like I'm not here to shame you,I'm just here to help you
acknowledge your behaviors sothat if you want to change them
or you're frustrated, you kindof know where to where to start.
(13:18):
You know what impacts it, youknow what the different, you
know what impacts it.
You know what the different youknow like habits that you
already have and practicing likethat is what is creating the
environment that you have athome.
So if you're going shopping outin amazon at 2am, gonna be
really hard to achieve clearcounters that would be me.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, I'm who I am amazon shopper, I was gonna say,
and my counter is not clear.
As much as I would want a clearcounter, I have nowhere to put
the stuff to clear my counter.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So it's on my store so yes, not having enough space
to put the stuff that we have inlike.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I consider myself a pretty organized person because
I don't like clutter.
I hate clutter.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
But I just I feel like everything I have, I use
and I need Love, that I have aone year rule.
If I haven't used it, seen it,touched it, had anything to do
with it, in one year it's gone.
I'm constantly going through mycloset and like throwing stuff
away that I haven't worn in ayear or so, but I still don't
(14:27):
feel like I have enough space,like I still don't feel like I'm
as organized as I'd like to be.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That's you know, and that I think is such a common
feeling that a lot of peoplehave, especially living in New
England, where the houses werebuilt Like.
My house is 130 years old it is.
That is one of my favoritethings about living in New
England.
So I'm originally fromCalifornia, where everything was
built like after 1950 and youknow, it just looks like a shoe
(14:55):
box, yeah, so I love thecharacteristics, or like the
little character quirks of oldNew England homes as much as I
love that people in 1800s didnot have as much as we do today
post-COVID, there's no way andso it's really hard to make a
modern family fit into an oldhome.
(15:18):
So then you have this clash oflike plastic red toys that we
all have to have, and then thelike you know, open concept.
So now the open concept justmeans you're looking at the red
plastic thing all the time Ilove hearing things from your
perspective, because you're sospot on yeah, and it's these
little things that trigger us,right, because it's like for me,
(15:42):
especially as someone with ADHD.
I'm taking in all theinformation, especially like
sensory.
I'm looking at it, the color ofit, the sound of it sounds loud
to me it's taking up space.
It's, it's awkward, it's not aperfect square, so it's just
like all these little thingsthat start to irritate me.
(16:02):
And then I carry that around myfamily and it changes the way I
behave with them.
Cause then I'm like pissed off,so like that overwhelm or that
overstimulation of things, andyou're just like I try so hard
and it just feels never endingLike no matter how.
How.
You know how like cutthroat Iam, how much I try to stop it.
(16:26):
Like also, this is life, solike we get gifts, we get things
from other people, other peoplewant to give us hand-me-downs
or like you want to givesomething away, but they're like
no, no, hold on to it, I'llcome and pick it up, and and
then they never come.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
And so it's like a lot of that's real life, you
know.
So like that's the kind ofstuff that I think on social
media gets lost when you see apretty pretty picture of, like,
your bathing suits and theseperfect little baggies in a
drawer, so lined up in colorcoordinated order.
I don't know why that, justlike that, and the organized
fridge just drive me up a wallit just gives my industry such a
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bad, you know like.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Of course you feel like a failure, of course you
feel like you can't, it's noteven worth it, you know so
you're telling me you don't havea little draw of just juice
boxes, and another draw ofsnacks, and another draw of just
fruit and another, and youdon't have lucky, if I remember,
to order enough juice boxes sothat she doesn't lose her shit.
(17:30):
You don't have like 17 differenttypes of ice, things that make
all these different types of icecubes and, believe me, I see my
cereal stays in the boxes,cubes, and believe me, I can see
those videos too and I'm likeit's just all you know it's just
this consumerism that has takenover us, especially post COVID,
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and you know like it's.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
it's a vicious cycle.
Yes, 100%, you're on socialmedia, you see someone post this
like perfectly organized space,and you're like, oh my God, I
want that.
So then the next thing you dois you get on Amazon, you order
32 bins and then, by the timethose bins get to your house,
you're so over it because you'vejust sat there for eight hours
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and compared yourself to allthese people who have perfect
lives and probably six nanniesand, you know, hire people like
me to do it, yeah, and then the32 bins sit there for the next
three years, and in three yearsyou donate them because it's
another failed attempt, or youwant to do that that whole.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
you know remake, remodel and you know organize
whatever.
And you go on Amazon to orderall that stuff and you see how
much it is and you're like ohGod, I'm good, it's out of
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control.
I feel like they're smart,right?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I feel like the business is after a while, once
they started to see that like oh, these acrylic bins, everyone
loves them, let's price gouge.
And of course, yeah, nowthey're fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, yeah, one bin, I mean.
Like you know, I am contractedwith a container store, which
means that I, you know, workdirectly with them in
partnership.
So when they have a client whowants a customized space, but
you know like, in order to getthe basement installed, you got
to clear out your 20 years worthof shit, that's when I get
called in, and so I take myposition with them very
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seriously.
I do trust them as a brand.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I love, I love going there and even better when you
get to spend Like it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
And like that feeling , that's the feeling I want you
to bring home.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I have a question.
So I've watched some of yourInstagram videos and so cringy
sorry, I can't.
No, I'm like just shocked atthe stuff that you like.
If and I don't want to insultanyone, but if, please do I
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walked into a space that lookedlike some of the spaces I see on
your videos that you walkedinto.
I would be like peace out, likewhat do you want me to do with
this?
Like I would be so overwhelmedwith that space.
Like you do a bathroom andhopefully you don't.
(20:26):
You're not related to theperson.
Again, I'm not trying to insultanybody, but you did a bathroom
and when you walked into the,there had to have been a
thousand things Like I wouldhave walked in there and I would
have been like, or I just wouldhave went and put it all into
the truck, like how that had tohave taken you like two days or
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more.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
So like for me, I, I tell everybody that's like don't
clean up before I come up toyour house like I want to see it
like the worst I get.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I would.
I would like clean and organizeit all and then be, like okay,
can you like make this lookpretty?
That that would be me, so you'dcome in and be like well,
organized.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, I can't really couple containers in there but,
I would never.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I I would never let you into my space if it looked
like that.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I'm sorry, I wouldn't I I think that a lot of people
have like straight up clutterblindness.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
My husband clutter his office space Like he can't.
He can barely move in his chair, but he knows where everything
is.
Yeah, he's got stuff all aroundhim.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
It's oh no, why are you touching?
it, I don't go near it, don'ttouch it, yeah Right, and like
that's when I'm real stuff, likewhen I'm going into people's
homes, they're like my husbandis so upset that I'm doing this
or isn't on board and I really,you know, I'm like look first
off, like that, is thatsomething that has to be
discussed.
Everybody has to be on boardbefore I come in, because you're
spending your money on this,right, it's a service, like you
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want to make sure that and evenif you were to do it, you're
spending your time.
Like you said, it takes time.
It takes me, because I've donethis now for four years, a
couple of hours to turn over aspace like a bathroom, because I
know what people actually need.
I know you don't need a hundredproducts.
I know that the six productsyou use are going to be probably
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on your right or left-hand sideflanking your sink, and
everything else is just noisethat you either see or you
completely ignore because you'renot using it.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
You know like you're.
I just can say that you'reincredible.
I mean, you are amazing becauseyou again the the bedroom and
the bathroom.
I was done.
I'm like I don't know how thisgirl does and that was.
That was like one of the best.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
That's like.
That was like Instagram prettyyou know, because there's a lot
of spaces that I post, that Ipost in my stories but don't get
posted to the feed becausethey're not those like pretty
you know, yeah, those ones thatcatch your eye.
But sometimes I, you know, theplace I was at a couple weeks
ago had not been cleaned ordusted in 40 years.
(23:01):
Oh, no Four decades, like 40years, like from the day they
moved in until the day I movedthem out.
That's crazy, never been dusted.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Not only are you cleaning and organizing, like
you're taking stuff out,throwing it away.
How do you decide what they'rekeeping or what like, or do they
decide that?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
We all, we decided together.
So what I do is I help people.
You know it's.
It's transformed so much.
Before it was like helping youmake your pantry look pretty,
and now I'm helping your parentsmove out of their you know your
childhood home, helping themmove on into the next phase of
their life, where I'm coming inafter a sibling has passed away
and we're going through things,or I'm coming in in the middle
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of a divorce that they can'treally do it together.
Or you know, one of the one ofthe partners has so we're.
You know like these are reallife situations that.
I feel like, are not the prettyperfectly labeled?
Toy room you know that's not mything, as much as I love doing
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that.
My thing has just transformedinto working with intellectually
and physically disabledindividuals.
It's so fun I love doing it,thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, like, literally like a savant.
So Celia had mentioned earlierabout her one year rule.
So what other like rules do youhave that you tell people to
help them?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I love it.
Okay, so my number one rule isif you don't love it, you don't
need it.
You don't use it, you don't, itgoes right.
So if you have potato masher,you may not absolutely love it,
but you use it and you need it,so we keep it.
You need three of them?
Probably not.
My first is that then, beforeyou start like trying to decide
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on all the things, just focus onsorting into categories.
Just sort from all the rooms,rooms, get all my friends
together, so like I can reallymake a decision what artwork I
want, instead of being like,okay, well, do I want this
artwork, but do I want this cup,but do I want this laptop?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
you know like instead of.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
That way you can see everything, all your shoes
together and like.
That takes a lot of time.
So give yourself grace.
If it is worth less than $20and you can replace it in less
than 20 minutes, let it go.
So if you have five boxes ofcandles, maybe you know like,
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put as many as you can in aZiploc bag and get rid of the
rest.
You know, if it's you don'thave a lot of space and you have
things that you need to keep,you know we figure out what if
we have to buy products.
What's your style, what?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
do you like?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Let's make it look cool, let's make it look stylish
, let's make it look badass.
So then you'll want to use it,because if it just looks like a
chore, then you're not going towant to do it.
Yeah, and so we figured thisout.
But my biggest thing is whenyou get gifts, remember that the
gift was in the gesture.
Right when people gave you thegift, they were giving it from a
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place in their heart that theywanted to make you happy or
appreciate you, and that wascompleted.
So whatever, the object is doesnot hold the meaning of what
they were trying to, the messagethey were trying to relay.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Oh, my goodness that is amazing.
I love that so much.
Yeah, oh, my goodness, that isamazing.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I would be mad with my gift closet yeah, so then you
hold on to it for four years,thinking you'll re-gift it to
someone and then that thing nolonger like is worth giving and
you've just held on to it when,in that moment, thank you so
much.
I, I appreciate this.
I appreciate like, oh my god,they thought someone thought of
(27:02):
me to get me something that wasso nice.
Write them a nice handwrittenthank you card and move on with
your life.
The only thing.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I do have trouble parting with is like my stuff
that I paid a lot of money for.
It could be it could be 10, 15years old, but I know I paid
five, six, seven hundred dollarsfor it, so I still have it and
I know it's probably not worthnothing.
Like say like, have a.
I have a couple of coach bagsthere.
(27:31):
One of them looks vintage atthis point might be, I don't
know, I don't have the time northe energy nor the headspace to
figure it out.
I don't have the time nor theenergy nor the headspace to
figure it out.
I don't even care, but it waslike a $700 purse 10 years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So now it's in my closet, wrapped, nice, beautiful
, and it's just there BecauseI'm like I can't just donate
this, like I feel like this was$700 at one time.
Not now, but you know what Imean.
So like I have boots that are$200, that I've won twice and
I'm like I just, I don't, I justcan't be like here, here,
(28:07):
savers have these brand newfucking Kate Spade boots, you
know right, Bye.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Like I can't do that, so let me ask you do you still
spend $700 on purses?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I don't, I don't.
I'm a different age now, right,that's the bigger, thing, right
.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You're aware of the behaviors You're a great example
of.
There's people who don't havethis awareness.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
As to why they need me.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I love you, but I don't think you'd be someone
that would benefit from workingwith and you know like, unless
you were like, oh yeah, I wantto spend.
You know I want to drop athousand dollars on making this
place beautiful.
You know like, look perfectlylabeled, that seems like you're
pretty.
You know you live prettyfunctionally already.
I hate clutter, I hate it.
If you can have those likeideas and habits and behaviors
(29:02):
and implement that already, itleaves room for you to have
those coach bags for a littlebit longer.
There will come a time it's notnow there will come a time where
maybe it will be five decadesfor you where you have to move
away and in five days it is.
You know.
(29:26):
There might be a time whenyou're ready to let go of them.
That may not be now.
My job is to help you figureout what it is that you're ready
to let go of, what you don'tfind value in what you don't
care about and get it out.
So that you can have a littlebit more space for those coach
bags you know for the time being, but I also think that you know
(29:48):
a lot of people, as long as youunderstand that, like you, what
you paid for it 20 years ago isnot what it's valued even if it
is expensive and it has a nameand I don't use it.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
You know I don't use them, they're just there.
I haven't used them in years,they're just there.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
But the fact that the price tag is in my brain and I
know that thing's probably noteven worth $100 at this point,
but the fact that that was, youknow what I mean, like I don't
know I've had to like you know,with mink coats I've had clients
who've had fur coats right andlike they paid so much for the
(30:27):
70s and 80s and like workedtheir whole career and finally
made it and could afford to buythemselves something fancy and
they're like oh, I held on ontothis for this long because I
knew that when I was old, I wasgoing to be able to resell it
and I have to be the bearer ofbad news.
I say Nope it's just not wherewe are today, and no one's going
(30:51):
to buy your animal, anythingthat's over 20 years old.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
So I can see by your Instagram you do a fantastic job
.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Amazing job yeah.
I feel the need to go clean andpurge, like right now.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I did that today.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
You'll go to bed so refreshed and so excited to wake
up in the morning.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You're an inspiration .
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I'm so excited to wake up in the morning.
You're an inspiration, it's sonice Tina.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
this has been such a great chat.
I learned so much.
It's been great to get to knowthe woman behind the Instagram.
We can't thank you enough forjoining us.
Please let folks know where canthey find you?
What do you have coming up?
Plug whatever you'd like toplug.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Thank you so much.
So, as you you know, you canfind me on instagram that is
where I am the most active attidy by tina dot llc.
Follow me, and really I do alot on stories.
So, if you want, because that'swhere i- feel the most
comfortable.
Yeah, that's where you get allthe back, you know, back behind
the scenes.
Action of all the dirtybathrooms and the dusty bedrooms
(32:03):
, and the.
I don't know if you guysthought there was like a round
mattress that I came across acouple weeks ago.
No, I haven't, no, oh that's,you gotta watch my stories,
little dog.
Those little gems are in mystory.
So we have great little thingsto share there and as far as
what I have coming up.
(32:24):
So coming up next year, I willbe launching a virtual program
where I will be a little bit oflife coaching.
Really it'll be house coaching,so I will work with you
one-on-one and we'll workthrough your home.
And I will teach you how to sortthrough your items, how to
decide what to keep, what youneed, what you don't need.
(32:45):
So, whether you are inMassachusetts or you're across
the country, I can still comehome to you and help you.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That is so exciting.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
A little bit of tranquility, wherever I can.
We'll have some laughs.
We'll do this.
You know I'll tell you all mylittle secrets and you'll tell
me yours.
So that is early next year.
I will be launching that.
So when you're ready to gothrough that new year, new you,
you know who to call that is soexciting.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Looking forward to that and many more stories.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Thank you, thank you, guys, so much for yeah you guys
are great.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You'll hear, you'll probably hear from me at some
point at least you want a job,because uh you're hired awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Thank you, ladies.
Have a good night All right,thank you Bye.
Bye-bye.
Thank you for joining us onthis wine-filled adventure.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
We would greatly appreciate your support.
Please follow and rate ourpodcast on Apple Podcasts,
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Speaker 1 (33:53):
So raise a glass, leave no wine behind and let's
continue this journey together.
Cheers.
Welcome to the no Wine Left Behind podcast, where
we truly leave no wine behind.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Alex and I'm Celia.
We are here in the studiotogether, sharing ups and downs,
frustrations and funny momentsof our daily adventures.
So grab your favorite glass.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Join us as we raise our voices.
Together, we'll dive into thedrama of life.
As we see it, today's guest isseriously awesome.
We're joined by Tina.
This is such a tongue twisterfor me.
I love you so much, but I'mgoing to try and do you very
good justice, tina.
From Tidy by Tina, thank you.
(00:37):
I appreciate that.
A total pro at transformingmessy spaces into places of calm
and tranquility, we all need alittle bit of that in our lives.
As a mom navigating ADHD andsobriety, tina gets real.
She understands I'll say reallife chaos that we all face and
(00:58):
knows exactly how to tackle itwith style, from organizing
hacks to staying grounded.
She's here to share her journeyand tips that are perfect for
anyone balancing all of thethings.
So let's dive into it with Tina, thank you so much for having
me?
Yeah, of course.
Thank you so much for joining.
(01:19):
I am obsessed with yourInstagram.
And even though it's in thename.
I know that you are likeorganizing queen, sponsored by
I'm not sure like.
I don't want to like get thewording incorrect, but you have
a great partnership with a verylarge store that I'm obsessed
(01:42):
with.
But there's just somethingabout you and your page that
gives like life coach vibes.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh wow, thanks, that's, such a compliment.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You should consider another, another venture.
But what inspired you to startyour business?
Was there a specific moment oran experience that sparked that
passion for organizing?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I kind of tell everybody this, but it was my
own mental breakdown.
I had my daughters 13 yearsapart.
So as any new mom right,whether you have one kid or six
kids, bringing a new baby homereally adds to the dynamic of
chaos that already exists in thefamily home, right.
(02:26):
So I added another child after13 years and in the very
beginning of COVID.
I was pregnant.
During COVID, in the very earlymonths, like found out a week
before that my husband could bein the room with me.
You know it was like such adifferent time.
I'm grateful we're not thereanymore.
But out of all of that chaoscame, you know, really serious
(02:50):
postpartum depression and I wasjust at a point where I felt so
lost and so like just such afailure because I couldn't do it
.
Like I had a 13 year old.
I know I could keep a kid aliveRight.
But like why can't I get thelaundry put away?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Why can't I?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
load the dishwasher.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I like well, it's because I was like not sleeping
and not, you know, I was.
Life was just a littledifferent.
So going to therapy and gettingdiagnosed with ADHD and kind of
feeling like, oh, okay, likethis makes sense for me, like it
just my whole school career, mycareer, made sense, the way I,
(03:32):
you know, function throughoutthe day, just like it all
started to like feel clear to me.
I'm like, okay, so all I needto do is like create little
hacks or little systems thatwill just get me through the day
.
Like it sucks that I have tolive this way, but if I have to
put a little piece of paper nextto my mirror to make sure I
(03:52):
brush my teeth twice a day, thenthat's just what we got to do.
Right With that.
I love social media.
I love sharing about my life,just because it helps me stay
connected with my friends on theWest Coast and my family that's
on the West Coast.
So sharing that, hey, this issomething that like it's helping
me.
And since we're all stuck athome with our kids and our
(04:15):
husbands and our families, like,and with all the Amazon boxes
and all the things, that we'rebuying to like try to keep our
kids entertained while we'reworking, you know, and we were
transforming, like remember, wewere transforming bedrooms into
classrooms and to offices and tolike we were just completely
revamping our lives.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So I just it just started as a way to share with
like my friends who also hadbabies in the same age.
I was like this is how I sawher close between like zero to
three months and three to sixmonths and six to nine months,
because I know it seems like itdoesn't really matter, but it
does.
It just kind of like there wasa need for it.
(04:57):
at that time I think we were allyearning for community and
connection and it organicallyjust kind of started and I'm
like, look, if I could just helpone mom one mom feel like she's
not a total piece of shit andshe's like a normal person, that
(05:19):
just because she can't keep upwith you know, know, five
people's loads of laundry likethat doesn't make her not
successful.
Or just because she has tospend, you know, a Saturday
cleaning up the playroom doesn'tmean that she doesn't teach her
kids the best values, subscribeso much meaning to our homes.
(05:44):
The status this, like status ofhow everybody else looks,
reflects on us.
Right, if your kid is messylooking and oh, she must not
care, she must it all comes backto us yeah so I wanted to help
moms kind of give themselvessome grace, yeah, and let go of
that stigma, because that stigmajust leans into like a spiral
(06:07):
and it's so hard to get out ofonce you're in it.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So all of this just started from, like, a desire to
want to, like take that feelingaway from another mom.
That's a great like triumphantstory out of like a really
difficult time yeah it's reallytough and I think we've all been
whether you've had a touch ofpostpartum for a weeks of you
know, recover like I just thinkthat we've all been there before
(06:36):
as moms, just being feelingdefeated.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, that feeling of like it's hard to push past
that I've lived in the hood andthe hardest hood is motherhood.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Let me tell you, just trying to survive, just trying
to get, by.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I love it, and the fact that you're trying to
survive and while doing so youhave this desire to help others
just speaks volumes to yourcharacter and to your point,
what you truly are capable of.
You know you had one daughter.
You knew that you could do itwith another.
It was just a little bit morechallenging the second time
around.
So, yeah, I think that's justso commendable.
(07:16):
And again, why I think youshould be a life coach.
Thank you so much.
Go from organizing closets toorganizing lives, Organizing
your lives.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I know what I'm trying to do here, which I know,
like once I become a marriagetherapist, a parenting coach,
you know, because I'm in yourshit, like I'm literally in your
underwear drawer, like I see itall.
There's no hiding it from me,because I have to help you
figure out how to organize allthose things you know, get very
(07:47):
close with my clients.
They become like family.
I know all the family drama andthe toxic relationships and the
mother-in-laws and thebrother-in-laws right like I
know all of it and I'm just, I'ma person who, like, it doesn't
matter to me, right?
You can tell me whatever.
I'm going to obviously takeyour side, like you're so right,
(08:10):
girlfriend?
I can't believe they did that.
But I'm also going to be honestwith you and be like, okay,
it's time to let go of youreighth grade winter formal dress
.
You don't need it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Which is one of my questions, right, like where do
you start?
How do you do it?
I'm sure it presents itschallenges, because some people
don't want to get rid of things.
You know, obviously it'sdifficult for people to do your
clients to do, which is why theybring you on.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So like what is that?
Like yeah, so for the most part, when people bring me in, they,
they, I'm like okay, just tellme what frustrates you the most
is my number one question, right?
They're like I literally don'tknow.
I feel stuck, I feel so lost,like I can't even tell you.
It all bothers me, the wholehouse, everything, every space.
(08:54):
And so I just start by walkinghome with them and seeing like
their body language in a room,seeing where do you like, where
do your shoulders shrug up?
You're like, oh, like, I'm sosorry, like this is not how it
usually is.
Or this is just my guest room,this is my doom room, right?
(09:14):
I hear the same things likeyou've never heard doom room
before.
Did it organize?
Only moved.
So that means like when youtake the pile from your kitchen
and put it on your dining roomtable to sit there for like
another week or you take theload of laundry and you put it
in the guest room until you haveguests again.
So I do it.
(09:35):
That's the only reason why I'msaying any of this is because I
live this way too, and so youknow I I can also see myself in
a lot of these clients and I tryto figure out what is most
vital to the family.
So every family is different.
Some people have kids, somepeople are older, some people
have a mixed family, like I tryto take into consideration what
(09:58):
is the natural family dynamic?
What is their daily life like?
What are their hobbies?
What are their lifestyles?
What are their schedules right?
Is their mom waking up at 4.30in the morning and dad's not
getting home till 9 at PM?
What does that look like?
And then I take it and figureout what are the spaces they're
mostly in.
So if you have a little baby,you're mostly in the living room
(10:21):
, right, Because you have to beclose by to where you can feed
the baby, entertain the baby andkind of get things done.
So most of your time with azero to two year old is spent in
your common space.
As the kids get older theydevelop their own spaces.
So there might be a playroomand then there might be a
homework room, a playroom andthen there might be a homework
(10:46):
room.
So I just try to really look atthe family as a holistic
characteristic and just dissectand figure out like, okay, where
is it in their lives that theyneed the most organization?
Is that okay?
All kids are school age, so thekitchen needs to be like
militant right it needs tofunction so well.
There cannot be an extraTupperware lid anywhere that
(11:06):
doesn't match.
So I try to really figure outwhat is going to be the most
helpful to the adults in thehouse and it's also going to
lead to a little bit ofindependence and autonomy for
the kids.
Because like, yeah, I can comein and make it look perfect for
you and you're going to love me,and then within four hours it's
going to look nothing like whatI left it and so I want to
(11:30):
leave it in a way where youreight year old, your four year
old, your 36 year old husbandwould be able to put things away
themselves.
It feels like natural, right,like you're not learning a whole
new way to live.
After I come into your house.
I'm learning you.
My job is to learn how you live.
Your job is not to pay me moneyto go and spend money at you
(11:52):
know, a fancy container storething.
And then you know I'm not goingto just sell you like my.
I'm not going to sell you likeclear, pretty bin.
I'm going to make sure thatanything I do bring in your
house is going to addfunctionality.
So I have to figure that out.
(12:13):
So like I go in and say I'mstarting in your kitchen, I'm
bringing out all of the shit.
We're bringing out all of thebaking stuff that you bought
every single Christmas Cause youswore that was going to be the
Christmas you started bakingcookies with your kids.
And we're going to bring out allof the candles that you buy for
every single buddy's birthday,even though you have five boxes
(12:34):
of candles at home.
And we're going to go throughit and you're going to laugh at
yourself.
I'm going to make you like, wow, this is ridiculous, as you're
like I don't know why my mommade me or like saved all of
these childhood books, but Ineed to take them out so I can
put my kids books on thebookshelf Right, and that's like
real life.
I'm like all right, justremember what you're saying,
(12:55):
because your kids in 30 yearswill be upset that you're
keeping these books right now.
So I just that's my approachwhen I'm working with people
Like I'm not here to shame you,I'm just here to help you
acknowledge your behaviors sothat if you want to change them
or you're frustrated, you kindof know where to where to start.
(13:18):
You know what impacts it, youknow what the different, you
know what impacts it.
You know what the different youknow like habits that you
already have and practicing likethat is what is creating the
environment that you have athome.
So if you're going shopping outin amazon at 2am, gonna be
really hard to achieve clearcounters that would be me.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, I'm who I am amazon shopper, I was gonna say,
and my counter is not clear.
As much as I would want a clearcounter, I have nowhere to put
the stuff to clear my counter.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So it's on my store so yes, not having enough space
to put the stuff that we have inlike.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I consider myself a pretty organized person because
I don't like clutter.
I hate clutter.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
But I just I feel like everything I have, I use
and I need Love, that I have aone year rule.
If I haven't used it, seen it,touched it, had anything to do
with it, in one year it's gone.
I'm constantly going through mycloset and like throwing stuff
away that I haven't worn in ayear or so, but I still don't
(14:27):
feel like I have enough space,like I still don't feel like I'm
as organized as I'd like to be.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That's you know, and that I think is such a common
feeling that a lot of peoplehave, especially living in New
England, where the houses werebuilt Like.
My house is 130 years old it is.
That is one of my favoritethings about living in New
England.
So I'm originally fromCalifornia, where everything was
built like after 1950 and youknow, it just looks like a shoe
(14:55):
box, yeah, so I love thecharacteristics, or like the
little character quirks of oldNew England homes as much as I
love that people in 1800s didnot have as much as we do today
post-COVID, there's no way andso it's really hard to make a
modern family fit into an oldhome.
(15:18):
So then you have this clash oflike plastic red toys that we
all have to have, and then thelike you know, open concept.
So now the open concept justmeans you're looking at the red
plastic thing all the time Ilove hearing things from your
perspective, because you're sospot on yeah, and it's these
little things that trigger us,right, because it's like for me,
(15:42):
especially as someone with ADHD.
I'm taking in all theinformation, especially like
sensory.
I'm looking at it, the color ofit, the sound of it sounds loud
to me it's taking up space.
It's, it's awkward, it's not aperfect square, so it's just
like all these little thingsthat start to irritate me.
(16:02):
And then I carry that around myfamily and it changes the way I
behave with them.
Cause then I'm like pissed off,so like that overwhelm or that
overstimulation of things, andyou're just like I try so hard
and it just feels never endingLike no matter how.
How.
You know how like cutthroat Iam, how much I try to stop it.
(16:26):
Like also, this is life, solike we get gifts, we get things
from other people, other peoplewant to give us hand-me-downs
or like you want to givesomething away, but they're like
no, no, hold on to it, I'llcome and pick it up, and and
then they never come.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
And so it's like a lot of that's real life, you
know.
So like that's the kind ofstuff that I think on social
media gets lost when you see apretty pretty picture of, like,
your bathing suits and theseperfect little baggies in a
drawer, so lined up in colorcoordinated order.
I don't know why that, justlike that, and the organized
fridge just drive me up a wallit just gives my industry such a
(17:08):
bad, you know like.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Of course you feel like a failure, of course you
feel like you can't, it's noteven worth it, you know so
you're telling me you don't havea little draw of just juice
boxes, and another draw ofsnacks, and another draw of just
fruit and another, and youdon't have lucky, if I remember,
to order enough juice boxes sothat she doesn't lose her shit.
(17:30):
You don't have like 17 differenttypes of ice, things that make
all these different types of icecubes and, believe me, I see my
cereal stays in the boxes,cubes, and believe me, I can see
those videos too and I'm likeit's just all you know it's just
this consumerism that has takenover us, especially post COVID,
(17:51):
and you know like it's.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
it's a vicious cycle.
Yes, 100%, you're on socialmedia, you see someone post this
like perfectly organized space,and you're like, oh my God, I
want that.
So then the next thing you dois you get on Amazon, you order
32 bins and then, by the timethose bins get to your house,
you're so over it because you'vejust sat there for eight hours
(18:15):
and compared yourself to allthese people who have perfect
lives and probably six nanniesand, you know, hire people like
me to do it, yeah, and then the32 bins sit there for the next
three years, and in three yearsyou donate them because it's
another failed attempt, or youwant to do that that whole.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
you know remake, remodel and you know organize
whatever.
And you go on Amazon to orderall that stuff and you see how
much it is and you're like ohGod, I'm good, it's out of
(18:55):
control.
I feel like they're smart,right?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I feel like the business is after a while, once
they started to see that like oh, these acrylic bins, everyone
loves them, let's price gouge.
And of course, yeah, nowthey're fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, yeah, one bin, I mean.
Like you know, I am contractedwith a container store, which
means that I, you know, workdirectly with them in
partnership.
So when they have a client whowants a customized space, but
you know like, in order to getthe basement installed, you got
to clear out your 20 years worthof shit, that's when I get
called in, and so I take myposition with them very
(19:29):
seriously.
I do trust them as a brand.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I love, I love going there and even better when you
get to spend Like it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
And like that feeling , that's the feeling I want you
to bring home.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I have a question.
So I've watched some of yourInstagram videos and so cringy
sorry, I can't.
No, I'm like just shocked atthe stuff that you like.
If and I don't want to insultanyone, but if, please do I
(20:06):
walked into a space that lookedlike some of the spaces I see on
your videos that you walkedinto.
I would be like peace out, likewhat do you want me to do with
this?
Like I would be so overwhelmedwith that space.
Like you do a bathroom andhopefully you don't.
(20:26):
You're not related to theperson.
Again, I'm not trying to insultanybody, but you did a bathroom
and when you walked into the,there had to have been a
thousand things Like I wouldhave walked in there and I would
have been like, or I just wouldhave went and put it all into
the truck, like how that had tohave taken you like two days or
(20:48):
more.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
So like for me, I, I tell everybody that's like don't
clean up before I come up toyour house like I want to see it
like the worst I get.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I would.
I would like clean and organizeit all and then be, like okay,
can you like make this lookpretty?
That that would be me, so you'dcome in and be like well,
organized.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, I can't really couple containers in there but,
I would never.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I I would never let you into my space if it looked
like that.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I'm sorry, I wouldn't I I think that a lot of people
have like straight up clutterblindness.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
My husband clutter his office space Like he can't.
He can barely move in his chair, but he knows where everything
is.
Yeah, he's got stuff all aroundhim.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
It's oh no, why are you touching?
it, I don't go near it, don'ttouch it, yeah Right, and like
that's when I'm real stuff, likewhen I'm going into people's
homes, they're like my husbandis so upset that I'm doing this
or isn't on board and I really,you know, I'm like look first
off, like that, is thatsomething that has to be
discussed.
Everybody has to be on boardbefore I come in, because you're
spending your money on this,right, it's a service, like you
(21:51):
want to make sure that and evenif you were to do it, you're
spending your time.
Like you said, it takes time.
It takes me, because I've donethis now for four years, a
couple of hours to turn over aspace like a bathroom, because I
know what people actually need.
I know you don't need a hundredproducts.
I know that the six productsyou use are going to be probably
(22:13):
on your right or left-hand sideflanking your sink, and
everything else is just noisethat you either see or you
completely ignore because you'renot using it.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
You know like you're.
I just can say that you'reincredible.
I mean, you are amazing becauseyou again the the bedroom and
the bathroom.
I was done.
I'm like I don't know how thisgirl does and that was.
That was like one of the best.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
That's like.
That was like Instagram prettyyou know, because there's a lot
of spaces that I post, that Ipost in my stories but don't get
posted to the feed becausethey're not those like pretty
you know, yeah, those ones thatcatch your eye.
But sometimes I, you know, theplace I was at a couple weeks
ago had not been cleaned ordusted in 40 years.
(23:01):
Oh, no Four decades, like 40years, like from the day they
moved in until the day I movedthem out.
That's crazy, never been dusted.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Not only are you cleaning and organizing, like
you're taking stuff out,throwing it away.
How do you decide what they'rekeeping or what like, or do they
decide that?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
We all, we decided together.
So what I do is I help people.
You know it's.
It's transformed so much.
Before it was like helping youmake your pantry look pretty,
and now I'm helping your parentsmove out of their you know your
childhood home, helping themmove on into the next phase of
their life, where I'm coming inafter a sibling has passed away
and we're going through things,or I'm coming in in the middle
(23:45):
of a divorce that they can'treally do it together.
Or you know, one of the one ofthe partners has so we're.
You know like these are reallife situations that.
I feel like, are not the prettyperfectly labeled?
Toy room you know that's not mything, as much as I love doing
(24:06):
that.
My thing has just transformedinto working with intellectually
and physically disabledindividuals.
It's so fun I love doing it,thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, like, literally like a savant.
So Celia had mentioned earlierabout her one year rule.
So what other like rules do youhave that you tell people to
help them?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I love it.
Okay, so my number one rule isif you don't love it, you don't
need it.
You don't use it, you don't, itgoes right.
So if you have potato masher,you may not absolutely love it,
but you use it and you need it,so we keep it.
You need three of them?
Probably not.
My first is that then, beforeyou start like trying to decide
(24:53):
on all the things, just focus onsorting into categories.
Just sort from all the rooms,rooms, get all my friends
together, so like I can reallymake a decision what artwork I
want, instead of being like,okay, well, do I want this
artwork, but do I want this cup,but do I want this laptop?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
you know like instead of.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
That way you can see everything, all your shoes
together and like.
That takes a lot of time.
So give yourself grace.
If it is worth less than $20and you can replace it in less
than 20 minutes, let it go.
So if you have five boxes ofcandles, maybe you know like,
(25:34):
put as many as you can in aZiploc bag and get rid of the
rest.
You know, if it's you don'thave a lot of space and you have
things that you need to keep,you know we figure out what if
we have to buy products.
What's your style, what?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
do you like?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Let's make it look cool, let's make it look stylish
, let's make it look badass.
So then you'll want to use it,because if it just looks like a
chore, then you're not going towant to do it.
Yeah, and so we figured thisout.
But my biggest thing is whenyou get gifts, remember that the
gift was in the gesture.
Right when people gave you thegift, they were giving it from a
(26:17):
place in their heart that theywanted to make you happy or
appreciate you, and that wascompleted.
So whatever, the object is doesnot hold the meaning of what
they were trying to, the messagethey were trying to relay.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Oh, my goodness that is amazing.
I love that so much.
Yeah, oh, my goodness, that isamazing.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I would be mad with my gift closet yeah, so then you
hold on to it for four years,thinking you'll re-gift it to
someone and then that thing nolonger like is worth giving and
you've just held on to it when,in that moment, thank you so
much.
I, I appreciate this.
I appreciate like, oh my god,they thought someone thought of
(27:02):
me to get me something that wasso nice.
Write them a nice handwrittenthank you card and move on with
your life.
The only thing.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I do have trouble parting with is like my stuff
that I paid a lot of money for.
It could be it could be 10, 15years old, but I know I paid
five, six, seven hundred dollarsfor it, so I still have it and
I know it's probably not worthnothing.
Like say like, have a.
I have a couple of coach bagsthere.
(27:31):
One of them looks vintage atthis point might be, I don't
know, I don't have the time northe energy nor the headspace to
figure it out.
I don't have the time nor theenergy nor the headspace to
figure it out.
I don't even care, but it waslike a $700 purse 10 years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So now it's in my closet, wrapped, nice, beautiful
, and it's just there BecauseI'm like I can't just donate
this, like I feel like this was$700 at one time.
Not now, but you know what Imean.
So like I have boots that are$200, that I've won twice and
I'm like I just, I don't, I justcan't be like here, here,
(28:07):
savers have these brand newfucking Kate Spade boots, you
know right, Bye.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Like I can't do that, so let me ask you do you still
spend $700 on purses?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I don't, I don't.
I'm a different age now, right,that's the bigger, thing, right
.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You're aware of the behaviors You're a great example
of.
There's people who don't havethis awareness.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
As to why they need me.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I love you, but I don't think you'd be someone
that would benefit from workingwith and you know like, unless
you were like, oh yeah, I wantto spend.
You know I want to drop athousand dollars on making this
place beautiful.
You know like, look perfectlylabeled, that seems like you're
pretty.
You know you live prettyfunctionally already.
I hate clutter, I hate it.
If you can have those likeideas and habits and behaviors
(29:02):
and implement that already, itleaves room for you to have
those coach bags for a littlebit longer.
There will come a time it's notnow there will come a time where
maybe it will be five decadesfor you where you have to move
away and in five days it is.
You know.
(29:26):
There might be a time whenyou're ready to let go of them.
That may not be now.
My job is to help you figureout what it is that you're ready
to let go of, what you don'tfind value in what you don't
care about and get it out.
So that you can have a littlebit more space for those coach
bags you know for the time being, but I also think that you know
(29:48):
a lot of people, as long as youunderstand that, like you, what
you paid for it 20 years ago isnot what it's valued even if it
is expensive and it has a nameand I don't use it.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
You know I don't use them, they're just there.
I haven't used them in years,they're just there.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
But the fact that the price tag is in my brain and I
know that thing's probably noteven worth $100 at this point,
but the fact that that was, youknow what I mean, like I don't
know I've had to like you know,with mink coats I've had clients
who've had fur coats right andlike they paid so much for the
(30:27):
70s and 80s and like workedtheir whole career and finally
made it and could afford to buythemselves something fancy and
they're like oh, I held on ontothis for this long because I
knew that when I was old, I wasgoing to be able to resell it
and I have to be the bearer ofbad news.
I say Nope it's just not wherewe are today, and no one's going
(30:51):
to buy your animal, anythingthat's over 20 years old.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
So I can see by your Instagram you do a fantastic job
.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Amazing job yeah.
I feel the need to go clean andpurge, like right now.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I did that today.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
You'll go to bed so refreshed and so excited to wake
up in the morning.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You're an inspiration .
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I'm so excited to wake up in the morning.
You're an inspiration, it's sonice Tina.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
this has been such a great chat.
I learned so much.
It's been great to get to knowthe woman behind the Instagram.
We can't thank you enough forjoining us.
Please let folks know where canthey find you?
What do you have coming up?
Plug whatever you'd like toplug.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Thank you so much.
So, as you you know, you canfind me on instagram that is
where I am the most active attidy by tina dot llc.
Follow me, and really I do alot on stories.
So, if you want, because that'swhere i- feel the most
comfortable.
Yeah, that's where you get allthe back, you know, back behind
the scenes.
Action of all the dirtybathrooms and the dusty bedrooms
(32:03):
, and the.
I don't know if you guysthought there was like a round
mattress that I came across acouple weeks ago.
No, I haven't, no, oh that's,you gotta watch my stories,
little dog.
Those little gems are in mystory.
So we have great little thingsto share there and as far as
what I have coming up.
(32:24):
So coming up next year, I willbe launching a virtual program
where I will be a little bit oflife coaching.
Really it'll be house coaching,so I will work with you
one-on-one and we'll workthrough your home.
And I will teach you how to sortthrough your items, how to
decide what to keep, what youneed, what you don't need.
(32:45):
So, whether you are inMassachusetts or you're across
the country, I can still comehome to you and help you.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That is so exciting.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
A little bit of tranquility, wherever I can.
We'll have some laughs.
We'll do this.
You know I'll tell you all mylittle secrets and you'll tell
me yours.
So that is early next year.
I will be launching that.
So when you're ready to gothrough that new year, new you,
you know who to call that is soexciting.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Looking forward to that and many more stories.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Thank you, thank you, guys, so much for yeah you guys
are great.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You'll hear, you'll probably hear from me at some
point at least you want a job,because uh you're hired awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Thank you, ladies.
Have a good night All right,thank you Bye.
Bye-bye.
Thank you for joining us onthis wine-filled adventure.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
We would greatly appreciate your support.
Please follow and rate ourpodcast on Apple Podcasts,
spotify or wherever you'retuning in right now.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
So raise a glass, leave no wine behind and let's
continue this journey together.
Cheers.
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