All Episodes

October 18, 2024 42 mins

Send us a text

Nicole’s back on No Wine Left Behind, and she’s got all the glow-up tips you need—perfect for brides or anyone who’s not ready to let go of that summer tan. We get real about post-summer wardrobe struggles (hello, pale legs!) and share some laughs over life’s little insecurities.

We also spill some serious tea on wild wedding trends (like, $333 to attend?!) and tackle the age-old buffet vs. plated debate—because food does matter.

Plus, we dive into some heavy news, sprinkle in a little reality TV drama, and maybe drop a General Hospital bombshell or two. Don't miss it!

Follow Nicole on Instagram Glow by Hoag

Follow us on Instagram NoWhineLeftBehind

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Welcome to the no Wine Left Behind podcast, where
we truly leave no wine behind.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm Alex and I'm Celia.
We are here in the studiotogether, sharing ups and downs,
frustrations and funny momentsof our daily adventures.
So grab your favorite glass.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Join us as we raise our voices.
Together.
We'll dive into the drama oflife as we see it On video.
Leave me alone.
Welcome back, friends alreadylaughs here we go.
Here we go, much anticipatedreturning guest nicole, because

(00:55):
we have to talk big brother.
Eventually at some point inthis episode that is going to
come up as promised, because thefinale has happened.
Spoiler alert if you haven'tlistened, then fast forward.
Oh no, Watch it and then listenlater.
Whatever you got to do, butyeah, super excited to have you
back.
Hey, girl.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Hey, thanks for having me back.
I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, of course, catch us up.
What has been going on since welast had you on.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
So I think I was on mid-September, so basically the
week prior to being on here, andthen afterwards of that I've
been nonstop with tanning, whichhas been amazing.
I am absolutely exhausted, butI've tanned a lot of brides and
bridesmaids and people gettingmarried and it's been so
exciting celebrating all of themand a lot of bridal guests too.

(01:47):
So I've been like reallytalking up all wedding and then
they come back and see metalking yeah, of course.
Happened at weddings, so I'vebeen loving it, but I'm very,
very tired.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I can't imagine.
But I do have to ask do youhave any fun bridal stuff that
you can share?
Do you have any fun bridalstuff that?
You can share, like stories,anything memorable.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
I don't want to ask too salacious, but anything
memorable, not a lot.
I do realize that a lot ofpeople are going to weddings
where they don't know the otherperson, which is crazy Wait
that's weird.
Or like they only know like thebride, or they only know the
groom, so they're like I don'tknow the other one and I'm like
it's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
That's interesting Because I have an interesting
story about weddings.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Oh, I did know it was my husband's coworkers, so I
did know them.
We've hung out a couple oftimes but I mean, obviously I'm
just the wife of the coworkerlike my husband hanging out with
all the coworkers, so it's also.
You know he's a cop, so I hearlast names.
And then he starts talking tothem and saying their first
names and I'm like, who's that?

(02:57):
I'm like, listen, only know thelast names, are you guys
telling me?
I'm like, so I, I'm looking atthese people trying to put faces
to names that I hear all thetime.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh my god, yeah crazy I was thinking of you actually
today, and not because of thepodcast, but I'm glad you're on
but because I have an eventtomorrow night and I have to
wear a dress, and all I couldthink of was how like off
colored I am, oh no.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
The legs.
That's what a lot of people aresaying.
They're always like yeah, mylegs are just super pale, Cause
this is the point in the seasonwhere everyone's tans are fading
, so they're like my legs aresuper pale.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
And I know I have like an and I know I have like a
natural color but, I don't care.
Your legs always are like weird.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yes, you want to know why.
It's because so you always yourtan is like the outermost layer
of your skin, so you start toshed that layer, but when you're
shaving your legs, you keepcontinually getting rid of that
top layer, so your tan actuallyfades fastest.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yes, Drop a gem, whether it's real or a spray tan
.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Your legs do fade very fast.
So that is the first placepeople are like oh my god, I'm
pale.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
And that's what I thought of when my co-worker was
like so what are you wearingtomorrow?
And I'm like, well, I'm justgoing to throw on a pair of
dress, pants and a nice top.
She's like, well, this is awoman empowerment event and blah
, blah, blah, and like you needto wear like a dress.
And I'm like, oh, don't, don'tforce me are you serious right
now.
So yeah, I'm gonna wear a dressand my legs gonna look all

(04:33):
fucking, all fucking janky andshit janky janky.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Oh my god, no, honestly, I, I just don't.
Even I can't wear dresses likeshort dresses.
I hate my calves and the morepermanent people I talk to, the
more people I find out alsodon't like their calves.
So it's not just me, but Iwould prefer to wear like a maxi
dress or um the wedding I justwent to, I wore a dress where it

(05:01):
was like kind of a slit up thefront of one leg, so like one
leg was open, and I'm like, okay, it's fine, at least like three
quarters of my legs are hidden.
I'm right there with you.
Honestly, like I would haveprobably wanted to wear pants
too.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
That's funny because I noticed that in people too,
and I'll go wow, so muscular.
A lot of people like like, nomatter how thin you are or how
heavy you are, the calves arelike, yes, they're doing a lot
of work, they are they're doinga lot of work.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
and I when I was pregnant and I I was very, very
sick in the beginning of mypregnancy and I lost like 30
pounds and I lost all the weightin my legs and I was looking at
my calves and I was like, oh myGod, I'm so skinny.
Now I'm like how can I get thatskinny again in my legs?
I was so miserable, obviouslylike I'm dying, but like I

(05:55):
literally was like looking at mylegs and I'm like, wow, my legs
have never been so skinny in myentire life.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
That's hilarious.
That's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
That is hilarious.
Oh my God, I wish I knew Icould have fit you in for a tan,
like a, uh, like.
Well, obviously not tonightbecause I'm here, but I could
have tanned you, yeah, monday ortuesday I know, I didn't even
think about it until today.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I was like oh crap, well, because I plan on wearing
pants, yeah no, she's like wait,what do you mean?
Like I'm like what Dang it?
Like, okay, I'm gonna have tolike do a real good shave and
put a lot of like lotion on andhope nobody notices that my legs
are on the lighter side and mycalves are probably very.

(06:35):
I don't even know what theylook like because I don't look,
I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
He probably won't be the first.
The only one there that'sthinking their legs are pale
won't be the first.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
The the only one there that's thinking their legs
are pale.
You know what I thought about?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
what I literally thought about for like a split
second was nylons, remember, butI think like a nice pair of
tights with like a patternthat'll never go away like
that's always gonna be like cute, I think I don't know, there
was a hot minute where, liketights, with like little pearls

(07:12):
yeah, or like little likediamond, like little yes yeah,
like they were a moment theymight still be in, but like
there was like a one like winterwhere like everyone was wearing
tights with like studs on themyeah, and I remember people used
to wear like ripped jeans andwear those tights and he liked
this little fishnet.
Bring it back, everyone Bringit back.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I have to pause for one moment because I'm noticing
something different with Alex'sbackground.
So either she's not home, orshe just decided to paint a wall
and throw up some, I don't knowthe way that you're saying that

(08:00):
, I feel like you're insinuatingthat I'm at someone's house.
I think you are because youdon't have a wall, unless you
decided to put up some newboards and paint them.
Gray hon, I'm 99, I'm 100.
Sure you are not home.
I'm sweating over here.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm literally in the hot seat.
Okay, I just want to clear up acouple of things.
Correct, I am not home.
I mean, I guess we have to talkabout this at some point.
Right, I have a boyfriend.
No, I'm not at his house, I'mat Sabrina, his house.

(08:45):
Hey, matt, I'm at Sabrina andTed's.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So funny.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I was filled in prior to when us starting it, but I'm
so glad that I knew who she isdating because you guys told me
on the last podcast.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
She was so cute, I told her, and she was like the
drummer from Manchester.
I was like, oh my God, wetalked about that.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
You remember, remember the whole story, oh my
God, that was the best storyever.
Yes, I'm like, wow, I feelincluded.
I know the details, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
You've been there since the beginning, going yeah,
so what are you?
So what are you?

Speaker 1 (09:29):
doing hanging out, visiting um.
So this weekend lila's gettingher senior pictures taken.
Okay, so sabrina's doing hernails oh, okay yeah okay, cool I
love it.
No, I figured I'd just bringall my equipment and record from
wherever, why not?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
So you know how we were talking about weddings.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yes, I read two articles.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Oh my God, both of them fucking bizarro.
One article was about a weddingguest who decided they were
going to serve.
Hold on, let me see if I canfind it.
It's right here somewhere.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I'm so nervous.
I know, me too.
I was just like oh no, what arethey serving, why?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
They were going to serve alcohol and more food to
the wealthier guests.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Wait what.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, how would they know?
Are they opening up theenvelopes of what they're
bringing and giving, as like thecash gift?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
They must know like which.
Obviously they're friends,right, like I know my friends
who are a little bit better offthan others.
So, like they must have likegauged it and and been like.
We know all these people gotmoney, so let's like feed them
good and the rest of them canhave fucking hot dogs and beans

(10:52):
that I will say sometimes thepeople that are more wealthy off
are the ones that don't spend.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yes, so you're absolutely right.
They should actually probablycheck what that, what's in that
wedding card before they do that.
100 you'd be, you'd besurprised the.
In that case, they shouldactually probably check what's
in that wedding card?
Before they do that 100%, you'dbe surprised.
The people that don't reallyhave the money are the ones that
are giving more money and theones that have the money are
like 200 bucks.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Right yeah, because they're cheap as shit, because
not for nothing, give me morefood.
That's why people are rich,because they're not like fucking
just throwing their money awayand just giving their money away
and like spending it on dumbshit.
They're like savers and they'regood investors and that's how
they're rich, these people.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
That's exactly how they get rich.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
These people think like, oh, they're rich, so we're
going to feed them and givethem the best liquor.
Maybe they'll give us bettergifts.
Hon, they already gave you yourgift before they even got there
.
Yeah, and they brought the cardat cocktail hour, yeah, yeah,
so yeah, that was the thing.
And then I um actually read anarticle and I saw on um who's

(11:56):
the one that was on a JenniferHudson show she was talking
about, and I had already readthis before she talked about it,
so I kind of knew before shedid.
Anyways, there was anothercouple in new york that were
charging their guests 333dollars to attend their wedding.
Did you see that?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
yes, yep and so what would you guys do?
Would you pay that and attend?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
no, fuck, no, no, fucking way.
So you're going to plan thebiggest, beautiful and go crazy,
planning your wedding based onthe fact that I'm fucking paying
for it?
Go, fuck yourself.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
No way, no fucking way.
So it used to be like, when yougive money at a wedding,
usually 50 bucks a person.
So it's usually like peoplewould each give a hundred
dollars.
Well now, because meals perperson are costing, up to a
hundred dollars a person.

(12:52):
People are expecting at least$200 per couple, and if you like
them, you give more.
That's where people's mindsetsare now.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
So in in all reality.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
If you're paying to attend the wedding, you
essentially are paying to attendthe wedding because you're
giving a couple money.
Also, don't charge people tocome to your wedding because,
like, just be gracious thatthey're there.
To.
My thing was is don't spendmoney on me.
I don't need you to give meanything.
Just be there and celebrate mylove with my husband and that's
all I care about.
I don't need your money.

(13:23):
Um, I was very appreciative ofthe people that did give me
money.
Um, it helped me on myhoneymoon, but but that's my
thing.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Like, like it, like I get it.
You want to have people come.
But like, don't make it a thingwhere, like you want to come to
my wedding, you have to pay.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Like, this isn't a cover right?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
yeah, I'm not paying a cover to come to your wedding,
right?
Exactly like I don't mindeverything else, it's all
inclusive.
You get dinner drinks, a dj anight off from your kids.
Like how are they marketing itif it's?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
like a marketing bar in dinner.
Okay, I might pay yeah I get$332 and all I get is fucking
food.
Right, I want, I want somethingelse.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
I'm when it's plated, I notice you get way less food.
Oh, 100 of course yes, that'swhy I wanted.
I wanted a buffet because Ifigured people that are hungrier
or like eat larger portions.
They can serve themselvesbecause with the buffet you're
paying per person, but they'rethe and the chefs.
They're going to constantly berefilling because they know

(14:28):
people are eating it.
Versus a plate of dinner, youare only getting what is on your
plate and they skimp on that.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
But I did see an article where a couple did get
married, did do a buffet andthey ran out of food and the
restaurant was like, sorry, weput out all the food you paid
for.
So, like what I, what her and Ihad talked about in a previous
episode was, when you do abuffet for a wedding, if you

(14:55):
plan on having 200 people atyour wedding, that buffet should
be for 275 people right orwhatever, like yeah extra food.
Yeah, so these people fuckingbuffet for children people,
that's it and that's all thefood they put out.
Well, people went back up tothat buffet and they wanted more
food and the, the um, the eventhall was like the function.

(15:18):
I was like, oh sorry, likethat's wild food for people,
that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, that is crazy yeah, that shit can be tricky,
huh oh my, I feel like the moreand more people I talk to I'm
like just a lope.
It's so expensive, it'sabsolutely insane, unless you
know someone where you can kindof get like a unique way of like
getting like a venue or like apiece of land and putting a tent
like paying the money like mycousin, when she got married she

(15:44):
had the piece of land andputting a tent like paying the
money Like my cousin when shegot married, she had the most
beautiful like she did a tent.
Um, they I don't know if you'refamiliar with Colby farms in
Newburyport no, um, it's likethe sunflower fields in
Newburyport that people um herhusband, um his family owns it.
So the sister-in-law was likeyep, put a tent up in the back

(16:06):
where that's where we had herwedding.
She invested in paying for thisreally, really nice tent.
It had chandeliers hanging.
Wow, it was my gosh, it wasgorgeous, um, but she still
probably would have spent lesson the tent than she would have
for a venue, sure, and then shestill had it catered.
And then we had like a bartrailer.
It was like a trailer thatsomeone just dropped it in like

(16:29):
the bartender yeah yeah, and itwas, it was so, it was so great
and I like.
So, if you know you're able tolike, know you can like have a
piece of land, or someone hasowns a lot of land, to be able
to do something like that I saydo that, but it's.
It's so insane.
The money that I spent on aphotographer alone has doubled
since I got married, and I gotmarried in 2022, even cakes

(16:53):
cakes oh forgot about it.
Oh, I, and I refuse.
I had.
I had a couple bakeries tell melike if you have, if you have
150 guests, you have to haveenough cupcakes for 150 guests.
I, I'm like not everyone eatscake, no, I don't.
So I ended up doing like 120cupcakes and I think I went home

(17:15):
with 15 cupcakes.
I'm like money well spent,because I didn't want to do a
three tier cake or do 150cupcakes, and now I'm going home
with 35 cupcakes.
And now I'm going to gain 50pounds within a week before I
leave for my honeymoon because Ifeel obligated that I don't
want them to go to waste.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
But the amount of money that people charge for
cakes is insane.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, it's scary.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Like I can't, I get it.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I'm like $500 nowadays.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Cakes are.
I make my little hobby, I docakes cakes it's a lot of work
it is but damn, I don't have theheart to charge someone 500.
I really don't and that'sprobably why I don't do it as a
job, as a profession, because Iprobably literally would make no

(18:00):
money.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, I would be working my ass off because it is
a lot of work, but damn, whenyou fucking want a three-tier
cake and they're like fivehundred dollars, seven hundred
dollars, it's like I worked fora, b, I worked for a local
bakery and, yeah, it was turninginto like, yeah, like 500
minimum it's crazy I was just soglad that I just had already

(18:24):
gotten married, because Icouldn't fathom I'd be like
we're going to market basket andorder yeah, which is also like
I did hear that people do likethe small pretty cutting cake,
and then they have a basketsheet cake out in the back and
they slice the market basketsheet cake so smart and put it
out that is really smart.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah, so smart so I actually kind of did
something like that, for when Ihad bianca's baby shower we had
like a nice cake and then I hadgotten a sheet cake to cut, yeah
, but her cake got all fucked upand that was a whole debacle,
but um, it wasn't like a bigcake, but I wish I had done that
for adriana's party.
I had a sweet 16 for mydaughter in January and I didn't

(19:05):
even, for whatever reason, thethought didn't even cross my
mind Because I literally wouldhave did the same thing.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
But I didn't.
I went and got the big $500fucking crazy expensive cake and
, I believe me, I made sureeverybody got a piece of that
cake.
I went around to every table.
I'm like did you get cake?
Did you get cake?
I was not.
You wanted to be money wellspent.
Everybody better eat this cake.
I'm not playing Like let's go.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
You want the money.
You want the money well spent.
You want the money that you'repaying.
People are eating it.
People are enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
You don't want be like, oh, why did I just spend
money on that?
And then not get you right?
Yeah, like I'll take home thetop layer.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, I'm not taking home anything else, and that's
what I'll be calling you for myson's birthday party next summer
there you go, I love it, I loveit, I love it.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, do you want to talk about the One Direction?
Oh, look at that.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Gosh Literally within the last like hour.
Crazy, it literally just gotdropped.
I literally looked it up and Iwas like, and I thought it was a
joke, I had to do a little bitmore research.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I thought it was one of those like fake articles.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yes, I can't believe it.
Was it Argentina?
I thought it was one of thoselike fake articles.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yes, I can't believe it, was it?
So we have a family group chatand um sabrina who's how she's
at right now had.
Was it you or sabrina thatposted it?
Yeah so she, she sent a messageand I'm like oh my god, what
are they talking about?
Now I'm driving because myday's been like fucking a mess.
So I'm driving and I go onsocial media nothing.
I'm like I don't, I haven'tseen nothing, yeah 10 minutes

(20:44):
later I refresh.
It's every single post.
Oh my god like.
And I and I wrote I haven'tseen anything.
Literally 10 minutes later,every single post.
And TMZ has, doesn't?
They have pictures of the body?
It's like his arm, his yeahit's sad shoulder not actually

(21:06):
the body, but like it is thebody, but it's not like his
whole body it's like.
So the pictures they have arepictures of his tattoos.
So I mean, are they the actualpictures from the fall that
happened like two hours ago orwhatever?
Because it was so like, it waslike just happened.
They reported it and all of asudden tmz has pictures like

(21:26):
does tmz have someone inargentina?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
following this guy around like someone's selling.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I wouldn't doubt it, yeah, people think it had to
have been hotel staff who tookpictures and then yeah, I mean
it doesn't take a lot becausethat literally them pictures
were posted on tmz like quicklike I said it was just pictures
of like a tattoo he had on hisarm and like somewhere else on

(21:52):
his body yeah um, but it said hefell from a third floor balcony
so it wasn't like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
I don't know what article I was reading.
I mean, it could be very high,like you're saying, but someone
said that the cops were calledbecause of an aggressive man is
what I read in one article.
I could be very wrong, but Idid read that in one so was
there an argument on a balconythat happened and someone didn't
get pushed um?
I did see that he did go to rehe after he was on the logan

(22:26):
paul's podcast or something likethat in 2022.
He did go to rehab yes so theydon't know if drugs or alcohol
were involved as well so there'swho knows what could have
happened.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
I'm kind of not eager to know what happened, but I'm
eager to see what comes outregarding with the details of it
so I did read that there wassome struggles with addiction
over the years and um before thefall he was acting um erratic
in the hotel lobby yeah, and heapparently smashed his computer

(23:01):
or did something to his computer.
He was there the night beforeto do a show with another member
of the group.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
I believe.
I think it's Zane or Niall.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, and something happened in the lobby.
He ended up, I guess I don'tknow if he was told to leave the
lobby or there was peopleinvolved, like staff involved,
and then a couple hours laterhe's off the balcony, so who
knows Like this is insane.
This is.

(23:32):
This is like the craziest story, Like so sad.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
You have to wonder to this third story, like could or
could not be high, like how hefell, he must have, he had to
have fallen, like on his head orneck to have like passed away
from just a third story yes, yes, but again, how high was it?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
like it could have been, I don't know.
Like yeah, I've been toargentina, buenos aires, I don't
know like how high the hotelsare, whatever, but he literally
it looked like he fell like onconcrete, like he just maybe he
fell on something that um no, itlooked like he fell just like
on their patio right next to thepool.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Oh, okay, yeah wow, that's crazy.
Yeah, yeah, that's yeah what'sawful is that, like the the
downside and the pitfall tosocial media and all these like
details being released, is thatnow, like that hotel is going to
be so booked and busy.
It's disgusting yeah yeah, Iknow yeah that's not right yeah,

(24:37):
it's so sad, just so so sadyeah.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Have you guys watched the Netflix documentary about
the Menendez brothers?

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
You did watch it?
Okay, I just watched it thisweekend.
Did you see at the very end howit said the LA district
attorney was reviewing and willbe making a decision against
warranting a resentencing orretrial?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
yeah insane crazy so I think, crazy he, he had um, I
don't know if it was today orover the last couple of weeks he
did say flat out he does notbelieve they deserve to die in
prison.
So that leads me to believe heis going to recommend probably a

(25:31):
resentencing because yeah likewhy?

Speaker 3 (25:36):
I just think that it's wild.
So, like in the documentary, itwas saying how, um, uh, I don't
, I know, eric, what's the otherbrother's name, lyle Lyle.
So he wrote the letter to Ericand he kept it when he should
have destroyed it.
And so the corrections officersfound it and they didn't use it
as evidence, right, theyweren't allowed to.

(25:59):
Yeah, because we were trying toargue that what they were saying
, like what's happening to them,was all lies, and then that
letter validated everything theywere saying and they didn't use
it as evidence so it's likeright then, and there it's like
I could understand why they'renow it is in question, because
that's not fair yeah, right, andthen the letter he wrote to his

(26:22):
.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
The letter he wrote to his cousin like eight months
to a year before they murderedtheir parents, telling his
cousin, who testified at thefirst trial, this is happening.
I can't take it anymore.
I don't know what to do.
They wouldn't allow that.
Well, the cousin had testifiedto it.
The letter was never enteredinto evidence.

(26:46):
Second trial they wouldn'tallow anything to do with the
molestation.
So then the the letter finallycomes to light again.
The letter that he wrote hisbrother in jail comes out.
It's like come on, mean,something happened to you.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
You know Insane.
I also was like sitting thereand I texted my husband because
he was at work while I waswatching it and I literally was
like I don't trust anyone withmy child.
Yeah, it's insane.
You never fucking know, younever know, and you know what's
gross to me is the mom, yes, themom admitting yes, yeah, you

(27:25):
think I'm stupid how about themom checking them for like
diseases every five minutes?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
why?
Because your freaking, freaky,goofy husband is doing what he's
doing, probably on the street,then he's coming home and doing
your kids yeah and you're allyou can do is check your kids
for freaking diseases and shitlike what I could, I can.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
I could not fathom the minute she, she, out loud,
they said that.
She said oh I, what do youthink I'm stupid?
Of course I knew this wholetime and I was like that is.
That is appalling to me I couldnot.
But right then.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
And there I'm like and that's why they said she
would check them for diseases.
Because she knew.
Yeah, she freaking knew yeah ohmy god, I'm like, I don't know,
I'm torn.
Like they brutally murderedtheir parents.
I get that they were molestedand then they were treated so
badly and it was horrific whathappened to them.

(28:20):
Believe me, I agree with that athousand percent.
But the other side of me islike they like with a straight
mind, like they went, boughtguns, planned this, they
freaking killed them, and it'snot.
They didn't shoot them once ortwice, they shot them like eight
times or something like crazylike that and reloaded the guns

(28:43):
like I get it.
It was all under duress traumalike, but damn, that was fucking
crazy, I think the other thingthat bugs me, like in the.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
I don't remember who said it in the film, but they
said they were old enough thatthey could have just left.
It's like you could have justgone and I get it Like I don't.
I'm not.
I've never been in thatsituation where it's like abuse,
where they threaten like you'renot going anywhere, Like it's
just one of those things wherelike just get in the car and
drive, yeah.
Yeah, it's easier said thandone when you've been abused

(29:15):
your entire life.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
You don't know anything else and you're
conditioned to think that youcan't survive without your
parents.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
No, matter how abusive they are.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
They're so isolated in that situation they literally
showered with their father.
They didn't have alone time.
It's a lot, and I think thatthey have been incarcerated for
enough.
I'd be fine with them beingreleased.
Yes, I understand they murderedtheir parents.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
That's not being undisputed.
I'm 30 years old.
I'm 30 years old and they'vebeen in jail since before I was
even born.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, yeah, so crazy, crazy, yeah I do think that you
know 30 years they did theirtime and they seem to be
rehabilitated, like not even Idon't even think they, I don't
even think they needed to berehabilitated because they were.
They went through that traumaand they did that to protect
themselves.

(30:11):
Yeah, but they seem to have ledvery good lives but like the
best life you can live in prison, right, like they got degrees.
They started some greenhouseprogram to help rehabilitate
other incarcerated inmates.
Yeah, I don't know reallyanything about it, I just heard

(30:32):
about it.
I guess it's.
It's.
The Netherlands has some typeof greenhouse thing that they
it's, it's it's something alongthat, something the Netherlands
do along the lines that they doand they've kind of like
incorporated it here.
They created their own thingand they've helped hundreds of

(30:54):
inmates.
They've gotten degrees.
They I mean they seem to modelprisoners Like, yeah, like they
went there they knew what theydid was wrong, but they knew
what was did to them was wrongand it probably took them a
couple of years to adjust.
But then once they were there,they're like you know what?
Let's make the best of it anddo what we can to improve our

(31:16):
life and better our life andbetter the lives of others that
are here.
And that's what they did andyou know good for them.
They did the right thing inthere.
Instead of they could have beenin trouble in there.
They could have been acting out, acting crazy like not caring,
just serving their time, notdoing anything.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
But they took the time in there to better their
lives, maybe come out and have adecent rest of their lives, who
knows?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, you know, we shall see.
I know I'm so excited, I'm soexcited, were they?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
married?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, they're both married Multiple times.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
I did not see, that, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
One of them was married.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
One of them is on a second marriage.
I believe it's a lie.
I still got them confused Idon't know I have no idea who's
who so I believe one of them ison their second marriage and the
other one has been married tothe same woman for quite some
time now.
Um, she actually was likeintrigued by the story.

(32:12):
She was married, um, after theywere and sent to jail, she
started writing him letters, um,and then check this out, she
had a daughter.
She had a daughter from aprevious marriage, the husband
that she was married to at thetime.
She asked him for permission tobe a pen pal with I think it's

(32:35):
Eric Um and he was like, yeah,whatever, like of course, like
he's in jail, who cares?
Right, she got in touch withhim.
They were writing letters backand forth.
Then she found out her husbandwas molesting their child.
Then she reported it.

(32:57):
He was arrested and committedsuicide like two weeks after,
and then she ended up with Ericand now they've been married for
X amount of years I'm not evensure how many years and now the
little daughter is like hisdaughter.
She has a TikTok about him,she's advocating for him.
Like she has a tick talk abouthim.
She, she's advocating for him.
She's like that's my dad, likeshe grew up as like a two, three

(33:18):
year old little girl.
That's her dad.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
This man that's been in prison her entire life.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Insane Mm hmm.
I had no idea about that andhonestly I'm like I don't know
if it was on hulu or netflixwhatever.
There's been documentaries andthings about the menendez
brothers and I had never watchedanything until this like newer
netflix one came out and I waslike, okay, I need to know
what's going on, like, and forsome reason I don't know why, I
like knew nothing about this.

(33:45):
So I was like, oh, so it'sgonna come out that they didn't
murder it.
And then I was like watchingand I'm like oh my god, wait,
they're admitting it.
Oh my god, they're admitting it.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I don't know, anything about this tape, this.
So I've watched three of themthere's.
There's the monsters, there'sthe.
There's one called the menendezbrothers, which just came out.
Yep, I just watched that one.
There's one called uh, menendezplus men, which talks about the
man that was in that group thatwas also abused by his dad.

(34:18):
Oh, okay, I'm one of themembers of the group.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I'm very invested now .

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, there's three of them that I know of out there
.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
I don't know if there's more, but yeah.
Oh my God Crazy, it's awful.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Crazy.
Yeah, it's just awful.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
And yeah, it's just awful and I think it's just
crazy after all these years,like it's not over.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I know that's what they were saying, is how, like
the TikTok like has like broughtit back to life again.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's like yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Well, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
They're hoping to be free by Thanksgiving so.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I think at the end of this month there's supposed to
be some type of hearing, andthen November, I think, there's
another hearing.
So today, over 20 members ofhis family held a press
conference in Los.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Angeles.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
And celebrities were there also, like Rosie O'Donnell
and other celebrities werethere, wow, to back them up and
to, yeah, his 93 year old aunt,who was his mother's oldest
sister, is advocating for him.
She like is like.
He need they.
These kids need they, paidtheir, they did their time, they

(35:28):
paid the price for their crime.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
They need to be free now like, literally like the
your mom, like the mom's sisteris like over 20 members of the
family are supporting them.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Crazy, gotta speak.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
That's gotta speak volumes right there, yeah yeah,
so crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
We'll see what happens.
Stay tuned nicole, I'll have tohave you have back, so we can
like recap this whole thing, seewhere it goes I know honestly
we never talked about bigbrother, oh my god, I know, I
know we're not done yet, let'sgo real quick.
We'll end it with the bigbrother convo.
I'm conflicted.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
I can see it in a cold space.
She's conflicted too honestly.
Can see it in Nicole's face.
She's conflicted too Honestly.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
like we were saying last episode, I've been annoyed.
Ever since Tucker left, I havenot cared who won.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
I knew who was going to win and so me and my friend
were like I was so tired, I wasexhausted.
On Sunday and I had it.
I was laying in bed, it wasplaying on my phone and I just
had it leaning against mycharger and I was just like and
then during commercials we weretexting and I'm like she's so
bad, they wanted MJ to win.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
And I'm like she's not going to win.
There was no way.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Cause I know big brother so well and I knew that.
I knew what Chelsea, I kneweverything Chelsea was going to
say.
I knew everything Chelsea wasgoing to say.
I knew to a T she was going togo.
I told MJ to make this movebecause I knew it would benefit
me.
It would not benefit her, Ididn't care.
I knew what her speech wasgoing to be 100%.
I was surprised.

(37:04):
The jury all voted her Same.
I was shocked.
Not one person voted for.
MJ, same, that's wild, yeah,wild, but I mean Chelsea's game
was that good.
It was that good but I didn'twant her to win.
I unfortunately was just nevera fan from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
I'm glad Tucker got fan favorite though, so that's
great.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I love that he is so cute, he's so cute in his whole
love story with Rubina.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Oh my god, I love it, I love it.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Number one.
If anyone else won that award,I would have literally been
pissed off even more More than Ialready was that he was no
longer in the house.
I'm just sitting there like ifanyone in America did not vote
for him.
I, I'm literally gonna bepissed yeah so glad he won.
but seeing rabina like wantingto like celebrate with him and
she was like grabbing at his arm, it was like just like, like

(38:03):
you could tell she literally sobadly like and he was over here
like macho man, like so excitedthat he won.
Yeah, he was kind of like notdisregardinging her because
obviously, like during thefilming like he kept going over
and hugging her, but like she sobadly was trying to be like
like oh my God, I'm so happy foryou, like was celebrating.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
He was too busy in his own like world and it was so
funny.
But you could tell like she wasso excited to see him and that
he was still interested in her.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, that he was still interested in her, yeah,
yeah, yeah, he was so happy tosee her, like he was just so
sweet and it felt genuine, likeit didn't feel like icky, it
wasn't cringe, it didn't feellike he was saying and acting
the way that he was for the showor even like what they could do
after the show together.

(38:50):
It seemed really genuine andcute he was watching one.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
He was, he.
He was, I guess, like I neverwatched them, but he was doing
tiktok lives every night.
That it was on.
Yeah, he was cheering her onevery single episode, he was
that's awesome, so cutesomething and he was like
walking around filming somethingand he goes.
I'm staying loyal to her likeso I was like I love that.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
So I love that so much.
I love him.
He should have won.
He was the best player.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
I don't care, he was a great player, he'll be back
like well, this isn't the lastwe'll see of him he'll be on
this show.
He'll be on other shows Hispersonality is so big.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
He's such a big personality.
And he's already in theindustry so he might be going
places.
He's going to end up on thechallenge on MTV.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
He's going to end up on that or Paramount, whatever
it is now he's going to.
Probably wouldn't be surprisedif he tries to do Survivor.
Yes, they will 100% bring himback for All Stars.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
What is the popper?
They all end up on bold and thebeautiful.
Can you see him on the bold andthe beautiful?

Speaker 3 (40:01):
like no, no, no general hospital or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I mean oh, I would love that, because I watched.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
My mom is has been watching general hospital for
since before I was born girl,since she was like, I think
since since she was in highschool or whenever it's part of
like my mom has watched generalhospital.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
My daughter is named after a general hospital
character.
Like we are diehard fans.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yes, yeah, your daughter's name is my dream name
.
Me and my husband want to havea girl so bad.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
And that is like a different show.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
But every time I say it my mom goes that name is from
Dino Hospital.
She's like it's a very old name.
It's a very beautiful name,absolutely.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
I love it.
Is that her last name?
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Absolutely.
I love it.
It's the last name, right?
Is that her last?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
name.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
My mom's going to listen to this and be so proud
of me.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
I love it.
Nicole, thank you so much forcoming on again.
It's always a good time to haveyou around, so thank you for
coming.
Thank you for sharing yourstories.
Let the people know what'sgoing on.
Where can they find?

Speaker 3 (41:21):
you.
You can find me on Instagramglowbyhogue.
You can start booking yourholiday tans.
We have Halloween, we haveThanksgiving, Christmas, New
Year's, Hanukkah, Valentine'sDay.
Honestly book up Things.
Do book in advance, so thesooner you book, the sooner you

(41:42):
can guarantee that you're goingto get your tan.
Otherwise, I cannot guaranteethat I can fit you in.
So definitely book up, followme on Instagram.
I offer a lot of tips on how tomake sure you are properly
prepped for your appointments.
And, yeah, come and visit.
And I hope I can come back onand we can chat more oh yeah,
we're gonna do a third episodeabout whatever happens with
menendez and then we'll keepfinding reasons to bring you

(42:07):
back on I love it, I love it, Ilove it, I can't wait, I love
you, I love it.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Thank you, ladies, thank you for joining us on this
wine filled adventure.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
We would greatly appreciate your support.
Please follow and rate ourpodcast on Apple podcast,
spotify or wherever you'retuning in right now.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
So raise a glass, leave no wine behind and let's
continue this journey together.
Cheers.
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.

The Breakfast Club

The Breakfast Club

The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.