Emotional Men: Tears, Trials, and Truths

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What does it mean when tough men admit they cry? In this unexpectedly moving episode, four friends create a safe space to discuss vulnerability and the surprising things that trigger their emotions - from touching father-daughter stories to dog movies that destroy them.

The conversation begins with a surprising admission: as these men have entered their 30s, 40s and 50s they've noticed themselves becoming more emotional. One host shares how listening to a story on the radio about a father following his daughter's school bus to ensure she could participate in a field trip nearly moved him to tears just retelling it. This opens the floodgates as each man confesses which movies have reduced them to tears - with dog films like Marley and Me, Old Yeller and Benji being universal triggers. The authenticity is palpable as one host admits to crying during a screening of Marley and Me hours before a football game, completely unconcerned about his upcoming athletic performance.

The conversation takes a powerful turn when discussing films about racial injustice. Several hosts admit they've had to limit watching certain Black historical dramas because the emotional toll is too great. "Mississippi Burning," "Rosewood," and "Fruitvale Station" are cited as films that left them not just sad but angry and emotionally drained.

Between these vulnerable moments, the group pivots to discussing current events - including a former Phoenix news anchor's massive PPP loan fraud scheme - and childhood nostalgic treats now turned into ice cream. Throughout these varied topics, the cohesive thread remains their willingness to be genuine with each other, creating a refreshingly honest podcast experience that challenges listeners to embrace their own vulnerability.

If you've ever felt alone in your emotional responses or wondered if it's okay for men to show their feelings, this episode provides both validation and permission to embrace the full spectrum of human emotion.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
I had the remix version last week.
Ah, there you go.
Oh shit, you're going to bedisappointed when the titties
ain't here.
Hey, I played the beginning.
I played the beginning.
I played the beginning and theend at the same time.
It was the remix version.

(00:31):
Hey, it didn't sound too bad.
Huh, it's too late now.
I hit him at the same time.
I was like, oh shit, we didn'tthink he was coming.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Welcome time I was like oh shit, we didn't think
you was coming.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Welcome to the Nobody's Talking Podcast.
We are here.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Four of us again.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
We got a good rotation of four people, we good
.
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(01:19):
I got some good, some nicequestions to ask today.
Riding around, riding around,you know I'm in the streets, I'm
with the people and I've heardthis trend before listening to
different podcasts and myfavorite podcast, johnny's House

(01:40):
.
But Shout out to Johnny's House.
I'm gonna let everybodyintroduce themselves To my left
is Rod, aka Rod.
Ted.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
So we just buried him then.
Huh, I mean, it's gotta bespecial.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Special occasion Okay , so a certain somebody gotta be
here.
Oh nah, Okay, so a certainsomebody got to be here.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I ain't been silky in a minute.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Itches.
Anyway, this be the one theycall Christian.
Sitting to my left is noneother than.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Superman is in the building.
Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew,pew, pew, pew pew pew, pew, pew,
pew Pew pew, pew, we're backwith another front field week.
Yeah, y'all know we here totalk some nonsense, like we
always do Mad trash.

(02:39):
It was 100 and I don't knowit's hot every summer Out here
in Phoenix.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
It doesn't even bother me.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
And what's crazy is it ain't even officially Summer
yet.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I know, I know, just tell me, you can get squirted.
Get squirted on.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yes, please, I'll take two.
I'll have what she's havingCheck please.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Anyway, what I wanted to talk about was I was walking
into a store and I sawsomebody's the back of their
thing said just graduated, 2025.
Venmo, and they had a theythink on there on there.
Damn.
So you know what that made methink i'ma put on my car, I'm

(03:33):
just broke cash app there you goand put my cash app on there.
Let's see what I get.
I bet you no, somebody did thatand dude got $10,000.
I mean it was for college, itwas for college and he had
$10,000.
I mean it's $10,000, $10,000.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
You're not talking about the dude who, this one I
heard on the news.
I think he graduated highschool and went to work right
after.
Oh no, that's the burger kingkid.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Okay, okay, okay he got a hundred thousand dollars.
Damn, yeah, hey, listen fromburger king, this kid.
I'm glad you brought that upI'm like god damn see, nigga,
normally don't pay me I see acouple miscellaneous things hey,
you see.
But then you see, I was like ohokay, I did hear about that.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Burger King one though.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, Dude, listen.
Well, first off, let me justI'm self-admitted that I told
you in my older years, dude, I'ma crier, Because that story
almost made me cry the Burger.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
King story.
I'm right there with you, I'mgood.
Yeah, yeah, burger King story.
I'm right there with you.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, and then I was watching a commercial.
Oh no, I don't know, I don'ttry to fight it, but we'll talk
about Straw later.
I haven't watched it.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
But I'm right there with you.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm going to get some napkins.
I'll just be watching something.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
And then it just starts.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Sentimental oh my God , yeah, hey, listen, hey wait
real quick.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Is that a?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
tune.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Hey, I was.
Oh no, I don't even Listen.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'm sitting up here Listening to Johnny's house and
it was a story they was talkingabout Cause, you know, to all
the dads, happy Father's Day,appreciate it, and you know I
hate my kids.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
So they probably hate me too, but who cares?
Good for nothing, motherfuckersAnyway.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Anyway, f all my kids , if you know, you know Now,
anyway, the girl was telling astory that she had to have.
They went on a field trip forschool or you know, and I guess

(05:50):
her parent permission slipwasn't signed when her dad
dropped her off.
So her dad was like, well,can't she go?
Because they was, I guess, inOrlando or wherever they were,
and they were going to I guessit was a couple hours away.
So they wouldn't let her go.

(06:10):
So the dad, she was in the car,the dad called off work, signed
a parent permission slip andfollowed the bus to the field
trip.
And he was just following thebus, you know, with the daughter
and he was like, hey, here'sthe permission slip, I'm the
father.
So they had like a littledinner or something, and this is

(06:30):
the part that got me.
They wouldn't let my dad sitwith a group, but he sat at a
table by himself just to makesure that I was having fun.
Now, that's touching.
Now, dude, I was sitting there.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
I would be right there with you and I hey, I hey,
and I know I mean I can't belike, oh well, I don't know.
I know my dad very well, right,talk to him a couple times a
day, but it's still touching,because I'm pretty sure I mean,
every step of the way, my popwas always there.
So, you know, shout out to mypops, isn't that?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
crazy, go ahead.
It's crazy, though, my bad.
I was just going to say it'scrazy Well mannered Negroes
today.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I know we are Continue.
My apologies.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Let's continue.
As I got older I'd go places.
I didn't get that sentimental,I'd be watching a show or
something like that movie orwhatever.
Didn't get that teary-eyed.
But I want to say probablyabout maybe once I hit my 40s.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, you should be sitting up here, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Why am I getting all?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Now do you fight it though.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
No, oh no, that's what I do.
I'm driving down the streetlike, oh For real, that's so
touching.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'm asking you specifically because you're
surprised by it, so I waswondering if you just no right
now I'm like man, it is what itis.
It's crazy.
I'll be thinking about my kidswith like a picture, an old
picture of them when they'reyoung.
Pop up thinking about my kidsor like a picture, an old
picture of them when they'reyoung, pop up.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'll just start oh man, that does it for me.
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
See, look at this.
You get those old pictures andbring back those memories.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Y'all got some black men up here meant to be in
criers.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
You want to know what gets me.
Don't put a dog in a movie thatdies, aside from John Wick.
Actually, shit, I even I tearedup on John Wick.
Now see, you know what's sofunny?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Certain, like certain stuff like I watched.
Oh what's the show?
Oh hell, it was on NBC and itseemed like every single week
you would cry oh, is it the um?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I know which one you're talking about.
You know with Sterling K Brown.
Oh, this is us.
This, yeah, yeah, now it wasgood for some tears now now,
exactly now.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I've never cried at one episode, not one, and I
didn't fight it, or anything Ididn't watch it, but yeah but it
was, and people would be like,oh, I cried, or this or this.
Yeah, now I wouldn't.
You know, I wouldn't ish onthem or anything just because
they cried.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
No.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
But I was just like damn, how come this doesn't?
But then I'll see some likequick commercial or hear a
commercial on the radio.
I'll be like what the hell?
Like how in the hell?
I'm not crying and watching.
This Is Us.
But I see a commercial or Itold y'all my favorite one with

(09:33):
the special needs boy, eddieEagle.
Okay, yeah, I think the movieis called Eddie Eagle and he had
like a.
You talk about going to theOlympics.
I've told this story before.
And the mom was, uh, you know,he's like you ain't going to no
olympics or nothing.
So he had a little special boxso he could put his medal in.
So he was getting on the on thebus and then the mom was like,

(09:57):
eddie, you forgot something.
And then she gave him the box.
Now, this was the trailer,nigga, I was done.
I was like Eddie, it's crazy.
I never watched the movie, justbecause of that.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
So you know I do power lifting now and a couple
once every year.
For the last two years I'vevolunteered for the Special
Olympics.
They put on power lifting Ican't watch them.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
I can't watch that.
I can't watch them.
Dude it's.
I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I bullshit you.
I already know it's so much fun.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Because they ask me to do it for track man.
Seeing them little niggasrunning around the track like
that Nah.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
It's just a lot of fun, though, because I get kind
of I'm going to be sitting therein the middle of the field just
laughing and crying.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Shout out to the Special Olympics man.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Shout out to the.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Special Olympics.
Hey, I already know I can't doit, man, I already know I'm
going to be a mess.
Hey, I'm telling you, if I do,hey man, if I do the Special
Olympics.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Straight to hell.
There you go, sir.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I'm going to need a Kleenex.
I'm going to need a Kleenexdeal.
You just pay me in Kleenexbecause I know I already know it
, but no man.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
You just pay me in Kleenex because I know I'm going
to be, I already know it, butno man, it's a couple of them
with such bad nerve damage Likethey have no motor functions and
to watch them pick up a barlike dude.
That shit is yeah, it does, itgets you in the feelings.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, no, no, I'm telling you, I know, hey, all
jokes aside, that's the stuffthat absolutely makes you, you
know, just grateful.
Oh yeah, you know, you have.
I mean, I'm no better than them.
I don't even want to say normalor anything, but it's just.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
And they have so much fun with life, like if you ever
watch them.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
they have such a simple approach to life.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Are you nice or are you not?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
And they're so fucking cool with everybody.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
They don't care.
They can truly say they don'tsee color.
All they see is oh and then.
So you know people are, aremean to them.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Just you know, because oh, I know I need to
clean that deal.
For sure they see a friend theyhaven't met yet.
That's all yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
No, I hey for because I watch it on tv.
You know all my my track meetsand stuff gotcha gotcha, gotcha
dude, I'll be sitting there onthe couch like, oh shit, here we
go.
Well, they get to running that100, about 20 yards in, oh shit.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
I'll be a mess dog.
So, a quick funny story, sincewe're talking about crying, and
I told you I can't do dog movies.
I'll never forget I was in myredshirt freshman year, you know
, getting ready for a game dayof the game nigga.
I'm sitting in the hotel roomwatching Marley and Me.
Y'all ever seen that?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I've never seen that.
Oh no, I said go ahead.
I'm about to tell you why Idon't watch dog movies well, you
can pretty much figure out why,I heard about it at the end.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
You can teary eye right now.
But yeah.
I was sitting in that hotelroom like a ball in my eyes
hours before a football game.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yup, I'm not watching Marley and me.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Cause I've seen Not even giving a damn about that
game.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Old Yeller yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, my Marley and me.
My Marley and me was Benji.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Oh, yeah, never seen Benji Yep.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Dude, and so that's why I know right there like yeah
, I seen Old Yeller though.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, all them dog movies.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Uh-uh Shit.
Even y'all ever seen HomewardBound.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yes, yep, even y'all ever seen.
Homeward Bound, yes Even thatthat has a happy ending.
But that shit got sad for asecond.
I thought that was going toleave a shadow.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
He comes struggling, he comes walking in at the end.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Oh, there he is.
I would be bawling now if I sawthat.
All them damn movies like thathave some type of adversity Like
why you got to keep the dog inthe cage, Like Air Bud Let.
Like why you gotta keep.
Dog in the cage Like Air Bud.
Let Air Bud go rock out and beBud Moss.
I'm gonna go Bud Moss somebody.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
It's too many of them .
Air Bud movies now man?

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, I didn't know, they were Still making them.
I heard I heard Somebodytalking about it and they were
naming A whole bunch of them.
Hey, shout out to Club 520,jeff Teague, and them, shout out
to their podcast.
That's how I think they weremaking jokes about it and they
started naming, like some I sawwhen he played football.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Then he do basketball too.
I think I saw basketball.
I think I saw, maybe that'swhat started it all.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I think I saw maybe like three of them.
So to my understanding, I think, I saw maybe.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I think I saw maybe like three of them.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I saw basketball football and soccer, I think.
I think I saw basketballfootball.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I think there might be hockey too.
Is there a hockey one?
I think so.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
I know they made a bunch, but they probably started
to make a few more.
Well, into my adulthood, theway I'm sure that's like I don't
watch.
Um, that's why I like I neversaw the Lion King the really
yeah but then because like Ihaven't seen that I think the
Lion King when it came out.

(15:36):
When did the Lion King come out?
I'll tell you exactly how old Iwas 94 94.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, I see I was 22 okay, or 12 no.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I was 21 yeah, so.
See, I was 22.
Okay, or 12.
No, I was 21.
Yeah, so I'm just saying like,okay, now if I was, you know,
younger, but like you know howthey got how to train your
dragon, I think it came outtoday.
See, I probably won't see howto train your dragon.

(16:03):
Well, I might go see it for thegraphics.
But I did see Pete's Dragon.
You remember Pete's Dragon?
He was the cartoon dragon.
The people were real, but itwas like a cartoon dragon.
It was kind of like who FramedRoger?

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Rabbit yeah, kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
With no Jessica.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Rabbit yeah, no, jessica Rabbit.
That movie was dope, though,even without her Toy Story 3.
Yep, I was watching that withmy kids.
That got me too that got me too, man, toy Story that got me too
.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, got me At the end of Toy Story 3?

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, when they're going down into the what you
call it.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Hey, oh, you're talking about that.
I'm talking about when they'reall about to be burned alive.
That one didn't get me.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
All the kid movies are sad, but I'm talking about
when Andy grew up.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Had to give him up oh hey, he gave it to man.
I can tell you one that got myboy way back in watching Rocky 3
.
I remember it was me LamontrellLamont and Terrell are brothers
and my pop.
He took us to go see Rocky III.
Right, we sitting up there youkind of hear some whimpering,

(17:13):
right, man?
I look over Now when I tell youlike Lamont got hands, like he,
the thug of the neighborhood orwhatever right he grew up to.
Anyway, we sitting up here, Ilook over.

(17:34):
I said, man, you straight, Wasthat?
When Apollo died he was like no, this was Rocky III.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Rocky IV.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
No listen.
Listen to it.
He was like man Rocky IV nolisten.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Listen to it.
He was like man Rocky lost.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I thought he would have been happy that Rocky lost.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Hey, I was dead dog.
I was like wait, what the?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I was like this nigga tough as nails.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
boy Rocky III was With.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Clever Lane.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Clever Lane I think he lost to Clever Lane, so that,
and then that's what I said.
That's when he started, but hegot his get back though.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
But I'm just saying this was right after.
Yeah, that's funny.
Because, you know, he woreglasses, okay, and he was like
wiping his eyes, man Lamarwhat's up?
I know You're going to probablyhear this Blay man, you're
going to have to put me on blastlike that.
I mean obviously you can gothat shit.

(18:36):
When did Rocky III come out?
83, 82?
.
Well see, yeah, we was 10, 11years old, but we were all
locked in.
Though I 11 years old, but wewere all locked in.
Though I was like man.
I'm trying to think.
I know I've cried at someBecause, listen, there are
certain movies.
There are certain movies Idon't watch, like the one on

(18:57):
Netflix Straw.
I'm going to watch that thisweekend and that's what I'm
saying.
So I'm debating what's thatabout?
All I know is this it's get youit's right, it's tyler perry.
Okay, so taraji p henson and youknow y'all, I get something
about like a single mother.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
That she's trying to go.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Let's just see like listen, I have that's what I
heard I have absolutely no ideaall I know, know is about three
or four people that talked to me.
They all said they cried.
So I was like man I might haveto get myself ready for this one
.
I know because they Thensomebody saw it twice and cried

(19:39):
both times.
Damn, I was like, so you'regoing to put yourself through
that twice.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
That same heartbreak.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Dude, I haven't watched, and y'all know I love
Halle Berry.
Everybody know I do.
I talk about her all the time.
Yeah, anyway, I haven't watchedLosing Isaiah because of that.
Hey, I know something about herlosing Listen anybody about
losing their kids or, like youknow, a black woman struggling.

(20:10):
Like I said, I don't know.
I'd just be like, oh, because Isaid I was going to watch
Losing Isaiah one day, I watchedsome of it.
Then I was like, ah no, I ain'tgoing to do this.
And when that came out back inthe day, I was like, ah, yeah, I
ain't going to do this.
And when that came out back inthe day, I was like ah yeah.
I ain't ready for it yet.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
I remember the animated Lilo and Stitch got me
Did it.
Yeah, and that's why yeah, yeah, and it was one of the it's
always the smallest most,whatever scene you wouldn't
think would do it.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
All them kid movies, man, like just if you sitting up
here and you running and thenthe kid get you know like
displaced, or they can't findsomebody or they lose their
teddy bear gone, they know theformula.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I said, oh girl, you know what gets me now, though,
it's like the happy ending,sometimes Like where, like yeah,
the family gets back orsomething.
Oh yeah, I'm like man sobeautiful.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Has anybody seen Busting Loose?
It's just way bad.
This is like 1979.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I've seen parts of it .

Speaker 1 (21:25):
It can't listen dude, there's some old people that
listen to this show.
Anyway, towards the end, whenyou know, they kind of had a.
It was a.
I don't want to say nothingabout the movie, so if people
want to watch.
But I was kind of like I meanit was funny as hell.
But then I told you, man, youknow all the muslims with a

(21:48):
little adversity, but thenyou'll see some crazy stuff,
like in purple rain, like princedaddy he should be, ah f that
man you'd be like it's just.
It's just weird how, likedifferent emotions, or crooklyn
was another one too.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Oh, crooklyn was sad too oh see that man.
But that one was kind of justlike it, just eased into it yeah
, you didn't really expect.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I ain't seen that what happened and whoo like
Crooklyn and low key soul foodtoo oh yeah, soul food, yeah,
fruitvale Station man don't man,man don't get me started.
That's that's on that.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Man rest in peace.
I can't watch it.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Man.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Dog, god damn it.
If that started a dynasty,though when?
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
No, it didn't them niggas don't miss hey listen,
dude, when they send it therecalling for his chicken stuff.
And man, I can only imagine,like if that's happening to you
and if you're well, I mean it'sno secret, I mean people know.

(23:00):
Oscar Grant dies so, but whenthey send it there calling out
for his girl, or was it?
I don't know if it was sittingup there calling out for his
girl, or was it.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
I don't know if it was his girl, or didn't he have
a kid or something.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I think it was his mom.
Okay, oh, my dog.
Yeah, got me.
You just sitting up there likeknowing you just want to be a
protector and get to him orwhatever, and you were like God
damn, I left that theater mad ashell.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
You know what Did I?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
even see, I don't know, I don't even know, I don't
think I saw that I remember Isaw it myself.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
I'm trying to think.
I went to the theater by myselfto see that.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
So, after leaving the movie, what movie left you the
maddest?
After leaving the maddestMississippi Burner, that's mine,
right there, I was just aboutto say.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Mississippi Burner.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Oh, I left out of there.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Heated hey and I went to an all-white high school,
Goodness gracious.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Roots, roots, roots, roots didn't leave me mad
because it had a good ending, ahappy ending.
Nah, that shit, nah, that shit.
Actually, you know what I'mgoing to take it back.
I'm going to say Rosewood.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Rosewood was tough too, Nick, I hated Rosewood boy
man 12 Years a Slave was toughtoo.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I never saw 12 Years a Slave.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I gave up on some of them, the last one.
I watched was Django and ittook me forever to even, just
because after Roots and all that, I was like dude, I give up, I
get it, I don't need to keeptelling the same story.
Yeah, I'm cool, so like, ifsomething.
So it's like any like modernslave movie or something now

(24:42):
even like 12 Years a Slave, likemodern slave movie or something
now even like 12 Years a Slave.
Yeah, I'd, probably I did gosee.
This wasn't.
What was the one?
Oh man with Oprah, was it theButler?
I think was it called theButler?
Let me see, I think it wascalled the Butler.

(25:05):
I mean, it wasn't a slave movie, but man, I still haven't seen.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Not the one with Octavia Spencer in it.
Is it.
Is she in the Butler?
You know what it might be Ifit's her that's called the Help.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
No, no, no, because I never saw the Help.
Okay, I did see Ma, I didn'tsee Ma.
No, no, because I never saw theHelp.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Okay, wait, where did I see the Help?
I did see mine.
I didn't see mine.
I think it just left Netflix.
Oh, it did say leaving soon I'mgoing to watch it.
Oh well, it's probably on Hulu.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, it's on something oh yeah, with Forrest
Whitaker.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Oh yeah, that is called the Butler.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that is called the Butler.
Okay, yeah, so I mean it wasn'ta slave movie, but it still had
those.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Slave-ish yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
You know, last butler I watched was Benson.
That was the.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
TV show.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Last butler I watched was Fresh Prince.
Oh yeah, another movie that gotme was Radio.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
I just thought about that, because I see Cooper
Goodinging right here I don'tthink I watched radio dog.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
No, I might have, why I might have scammed because it
was on tv it's uh forrestwhitaker, john john cusack,
david oh, I can't say his nameDavid Oyelio, oprah James
Marsden and Cooper Gooding Jr.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
See, I can't watch those movies because the white
actors and actresses got to playlike assholes.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
And you know that they're good at their job.
Oh, Terrence Howard was in ittoo.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
So that kind of makes you look at them a little
different.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, dude, that's how I was with Mississippi
Burning.
I was just sitting up here likeI mean it looked like they
enjoying it.
You tell yourself it's a movie.
But then you younger, I'm 17.
But see, you got to also havethat suspension of disbelief.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
to get into the story , yeah, no, that's true, it's
like.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Django right, so you got-.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Right right.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Leo, yeah, leonardo, god, I can't Leonardo, leonardo
DiCaprio saying nigga, you know,like Lefty.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, Lefty, right.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, you know, for him I mean granted, yes, it's a
role, it's a good role.
Jamie Foxx, ultimately, hisrole ultimately comes out to
Victor, or whatever, but for himto want to take that role and
say that word so many times, Imean.
I guess you got to takeyourself out of it.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, shit, that damn paycheck.
And then you do realize, dude,it's worth it, and shout out to
Quentin Tarantino for putting itall together.
Yeah, keeping it 100.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
He's done a few movies like that.
I haven't seen it, but yeah,because it a hundred.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
He's done a few movies like that.
I haven't seen it.
Yeah, because I don't look at.
Hey, he probably signed up forit like whoo, he was skipping
the work.
I finally get to call theseniggas niggas Without no
repercussions.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
And I'll get $20 million for it.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
He's probably practicing in the mirror and
everything, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Who that nigga on that?

Speaker 3 (28:03):
stand.
Do y'all know if actors andactresses get royalties every
time the shit plays on a TVscreen?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I heard it was one actor, I don't know if it was
Star Wars or something.
They just took a little bit ofmoney and they took a back-end
deal.
Dude, they've been paid like 60, 70 million dollars.
Now they probably would havegot like a lump sum of like 2
million.
yeah, a lot of TV, like TVactors do that, yeah, I know

(28:33):
they get syndication rights ohyeah, yeah, they get that
syndication when it comes tomovies.
Yeah, I'm not.
I'm sure some people do.
Yeah, I'm sure, like with TomCruise, cause he, you know,
cause he produces or whatever,so I he probably takes a lot of
back end.
I posed this question.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
the other day I was watching the basketball game,
right?
Oh no, they was talking aboutMichael Jordan and just who you
want to be an athlete or actor,and I know we've probably talked
about this before.
But if you had to choose fameas an athlete, or as an actor or

(29:13):
pop star, star, singer likethat, which one would you?

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
My answer.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
My answer is I'm going to give you, I'm going to
give you comparison Tom Cruise,who probably is one of the
world's biggest actors.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, he's out there.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Or Michael Jordan.
I'm going to choose athletebecause that's biggest actors.
Would you say, yeah, he's outthere.
Or?

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Michael Jordan.
I'm going to choose athletebecause that's what I'm
comfortable with.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
So I'll just always go with him, or Michael Jackson
Alive.
That's what I'm saying.
So look at those three as a topin their field.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I'm still saying Michael Jordan.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I'm going to go ahead and say athlete.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
The reason why I say this, because we was talking
about stars and Michael Jordan.
I think I'm biased.
I think I'm biased, but LeBronJames may be one of the few now

(30:18):
one of the last ones that's astar of stars To where stars see
like I know.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Michael Jackson, you mean still?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
playing the game.
No, no, no.
Michael Jackson met MichaelJordan and was excited as hell,
yes yes, so he, michael Jordan,is a star to stars, To another
star.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
But then people look at Michael Jackson as the same
right.
So you don't think MichaelJordan was just as excited to?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
meet Michael Jackson?
Nope, you don't think so.
Nope, nope.
Not knowing that, nigga, nope,I not knowing that, nigga, nope,
I'm sure he was.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
He was, yeah, I think I know I would be.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I think if just looking.
Michael Jackson is big now,yeah, but dude, dude, listen,
cause they cause in the world.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Michael Jackson is probably bigger.
Nah well, was it close?
No, it's neck and neck.
Michael Jordan is big at thetime Bigger.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Nah Well, is it close ?
No, it's neck and neck.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Michael Jordan is big At the time at the time when
Michael Jordan met MichaelJackson.
At that time, Michael Jacksonwas bigger than Michael Jordan.
No, right, right, right, Iagree.
Now Michael Jordan hassurpassed you, think.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
You don't think they were neck and neck then At that
time.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
No, because Jordan was probably early.
This was almost before thechampionships and stuff too.
This was before the first threechampionships.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
I mean, they did the music video together.
When was that?
That was probably 93, 94.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, that was after, but I'm talking about when they
first, first met.
Okay, like when they first met.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Not first met.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Okay, like when they first met not, you know when he
was there, like, was it jam orwhatever?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean asathletes.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
No, like I said, I know I, I get what you're saying
, though, but I'm telling you,man, people see, like these
athletes, because, first off,I'm not saying everybody can act
, but everybody can't do whatMichael Jordan, no, no, no, like
I, I can't.

(32:19):
But what I'm saying is I can dowhat Tom Cruise can do, and
what I'm saying is I can just goact.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
You get what I'm saying no, no, listen, no, no,
this is what I'm saying you cango act, right?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
yeah, you can't hoop like michael jordan, right,
that's what I'm saying.
Okay, what which?
No, I can't act like tom cruisebut what I'm saying?
We can just.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Okay, let's take an acting class, let's do this but
just for argument's sake, whatdo you think practice, what do
you think takes more practicelike more hours?
Like you know, they always sayyou take 10,000 hours.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
No, I think all of it .
I think all of it.
I ain't going to discredit that.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
I think acting probably takes more hours,
because I would agree with that.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Okay, so, michael Jordan, you got to get the
script down.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Michael Jordan is a once in a lifetime talent.
Right, right.
Not everybody can be MichaelJordan, not, not everybody can
be Michael Jordan, not everybodycan be Tom Cruise.
Yes, there's acting classesassociated with it.
Right, the more and more.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
But, I understand what you're saying.
Like Michael Jordan, I'm justsaying like just physically.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
you can just be like okay here, but you just can't
physically be like Right, youcan't get off the couch.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Like I can go shoot and go play basketball, but
you'd be like, oh my God, Likethe couch like I can go shoot
and go play basketball.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
But you'd be like, oh my god, right, like dude the
stuff that this dude does,whereas mj he can get off the
couch.
Drop 60 yeah, but that takesthat takes a lot of hard work,
but then a lot of that he doeshave, god given but I will tell
you this there's way more tomcruises than michael jordans
mich's.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
No, I agree, leonardo DiCaprio, we just said it.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, I mean, who would you think is the biggest
actor of all time, of all time?
Yes, I mean, I have a problemthinking.
I start thinking about justmovies and highest grossing
movies Clint Eastwood, denzelWashington I was going to say

(34:16):
Denzel, denzel, and see, I'mbasing that off of how many?
Flops do they have?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, denzel, don't got none.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
No, he got some.
He got a couple Ricochet ain'tdo good, I liked it, but no, he
got some flops.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
But then you think about like Tom Hanks, like did
y'all see, wasn't he in Mo'Better Blues.
He was in Mo' Better Blues,yeah.
But then you think about peoplelike Tom Hanks.
Right, he always pick hismovies.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
True that, true that, because you forget these dudes
when they start young.
Yeah, no, you do Remember whenTom Hanks started, when he was
in Booze and Buddies, yep.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
So then you think about over the years, like
Samuel L Jackson, right, he'sbeen in more movies than anyone.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Oh no, they say now he's the highest grossing actor.
Yeah, he's been in more moviesthan anyone, right?
Yeah, anything.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
And he's always in these big hits, like from Marvel
movies to Avengers but see he'salso.
I would equate him to BrettFavre.
Brett Favre is one of what?
Is he the all-time touchdownpassing leader, or some shit
like that?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
That's Tom Brady now.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Anyway.
So before he officially,officially retired, he was
number one right, but then hewas also number one in
interceptions.
So Sam Jackson has a lot ofgreat movies, but he's got a lot
of duds because he doesn't sayno.
He never says no, but then thatis also what makes him great.
Yeah, I agree, I agree, but hegets in a lot of those big roles
right.

(35:41):
And Brett Favre threw a lot oftouchdowns man, a lot of
interceptions, a lot ofinterceptions, and let's talk
about them.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Ppp yeah, has anybody watched that yet?
Man, I watched that shit acouple weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
I need to watch it.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Uh-uh, I'm going to watch it though.
Hey, oh, speaking of that, whoheard about that?
The Phoenix, the ex-anchor.
Her name is.
I'm going to say her name too.
I think her last name isStockbridge, her and her husband
.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Oh, I didn her husband oh.
I didn't hear about that.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
They showed them living the life too.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yes, they extorted a lot of money.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
A lot.
Yes, now they on trial in Texas.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yep, I did hear about that, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Damn See, that's just right hey sometimes people just
don't think they shit stink Forreal?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
And Tiz, does Roses really smell like boo-boo?
Dude, got your ass, man listen.
Who is this person?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Oh, stephanie Hockridge, Hockridge, yeah,
hockridge, it says ex-PhoenixNews anchor stands trial on
charges she led for the COVIDkickback on charges she led for,
like the COVID kickback.
Because weren't they likesetting people, like working
behind the scenes and helpingpeople and all that Shit they
was helping they self Hold onwe're about to play this.

(37:02):
You have now been put on blastwhite woman Got your ass.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
We need to make that a button Real Okay.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Oh, hold up, now, let me get my sound right.
Uh-oh, oh damn you know, whatyou ain't connected, hold on,
I'm connected right here.
You got it.
Technical Hold on hey,connected right here.
You got it.
Technical Hold on hey, that'sall right.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Did y'all hear about the one dude that survived the
plane crash?
Oh yeah, what plane crash?
One in India, india.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Oh, one person survived yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
One person survived.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
What the hell did he do?
Got ejected out of the plane.
Got ejected out of the plane,did he?
Is he going to be okay?

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, he walked away.
He had a few scratches.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
He must have been asleep or something.
Huh, he got lucky, because youknow, they say when you, he
didn't have his seatbelt on.
You know when they say whenyou're about to get in a car
crash, the best thing you can dois just relax, tense up.
That's hard.
I just can do is just relax, ohyeah.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, tense up, yeah.
So that's hard, and he wasasleep, I just sit there.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Oh.
I can't do that the plane wastaken off.
I know you just drive, oh itdidn't.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
It was just taken off , ok, so it's not like it was at
altitude.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Oh, and all of them people died.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
It was just taken off , it was just so imagine it
going up and it just came downlike that, because they were
saying like the flaps orwhatever weren't right, they
didn't even raise the landinggear.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
It was crazy.
People died on the ground.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
People died on the ground, yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
So, who's?

Speaker 2 (38:45):
at fault for that.
That motherfucker blew up likea heat bomb.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
It was the first like Boeing 787 or something like
that.
Oh was that the big ones.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, it was a big one, yeah, hey.
Well, I'll tell you this, ifI'm him.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
He was sitting in seat 11A, I'm so going to have
the most success.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Play those numbers now.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
A 11A and I'm never getting on the plane again.
So I'm going to need y'all tobuy me a tour bus, because now I
can damn that would traumatizeyou.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Yeah, hearing stuff like that man living through
stuff like that.
In his case I'm sure he neverwants to travel.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
That's for local food system in the world.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Told you I had a hook up here.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
My name is JD Hill.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Hello, jd, I had it hooked up here.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
My name is JD Hill.
Hello, JD.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
But first we're learning more about federal
charges from an alleged pandemicscheme.
A Phoenix couple, including aformer TV news anchor, is
arrested in Puerto Rico, accusedof pocketing tens of millions
of dollars illegally.
Pause.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Listen, that's exactly why they were in Puerto
Rico too tens of millions tensof millions.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
See, that's what they asked.
Like they say, puerto Rico, huhyou play stupid games.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
That's a US terrorist , hell yeah ain't no extradition
why?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
your ass in Puerto Rico.
You better take your asssomewhere.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
They should've been in DR nigga, they should have
been in a DR Right, should havebeen somewhere in.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Singapore in the rice fields.
Bora Bora you got all thatmoney.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Tahiti.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Hell yeah, where can?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
they not take my ass from.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Nigga if I got all that money.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
I'm running.
Doesn't Cuba not have, likethey have, anti-extradition laws
?
Don't they Cuba does yeah.
I have anti-extradition lawsCuba does.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, I'm going to Cuba.
Yeah, what about Mexico?
What up Asada?
I don't know about Mexico.
Shit go to Mexico, Federales.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, you sitting up here like you just gotta pay
them off too.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
They ain't gonna say nothing, hell, no, they got all
that money.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Here's 5,000 pesos man.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Ain't that where, dude?
That's what dude was hiding.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
That I'm not even gonna lie to you, I'm not even,
I'm not gonna even say nothing.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
How do you say, how do you do the?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Uh-uh, do what Uh-uh?

Speaker 4 (41:03):
He joins us with the details, that's enough that's
enough.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
Well, brian Stephanie Hawkridge, a former anchor at
ABC 15 here in Phoenix, and herhusband, nathan Reese, are
accused of submitting false andfraudulent Paycheck Protection
Program or PPP loans.
The couple took out loans forthemselves and then showed
others how easy it was to gettaxpayer cash.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
A scheme worth hundreds of millions of dollars
set against the backdrop ofglobal pandemic relief, billions
of dollars set against thebackdrop of global pandemic
relief, criminals and criminalorganizations took advantage of
Americans suffering during thiscrisis and committed substantial
and I'm sitting here, broke man.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
I was trying to get a money back right.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Huh, did they have to pay their money back?
Oh what, these people yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Oh, they going to prison dog.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
I know they are.
I'm talking about the peoplethat they showed how to pay
their money back.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Oh what these people?
Yeah, oh, they going to prison,dog.
Well, I know they are.
I'm talking about the peoplethat they showed how to get this
money, so do anybody have topay the money back?

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Well, if you really use it for what it was used for,
no, you don't have to pay itback.
That's what they thought theycould get over.
That's a lot of money that, ifthey did they going to man
listen?

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Going to jail now?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Man, I'm a man.
We're going to try to have tofind her Jail.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Think she's going to be up there with Jody hey.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I'll tell you what Sometimes, because you know
we're always in the spotlight,so sometimes I like when y'all
motherfuckers catch.
It too is catchy too.
So I'm putting the spotlight onyour ass.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Well, none the matter with it.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
Among the alleged criminals a former Valley
television anchor, StephanieHockridge, and her husband,
Nathan Reese.
During a federal hearing,numbers reaching into 10 figures
are discussed.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Fresh fish 57,000 applications.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
New booty.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Were for applicants who are on the do not pay list,
involving several billions ofdollars.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
And how much fraud are we talking about just in
those loans?

Speaker 2 (43:02):
$3.6 billion.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
Hockridge and Reese are accused of attempting to
directly charge some applicants$3.6 billion, is he saying
billion.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Man, these niggas can't talk, these niggas ain't
say billion.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
I think they said billion, I think he said billion
hey, I remember her too channelon channel 15 she was.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I mean, it wasn't that long.
That's probably when she quit,when they started getting all
that money.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Here's the thing, right here.
I'm about to tell y'all rightnow see, we get enamored just as
people.
I'm not putting on race, I'mnot putting it on a certain
gender.
It's just us as people.
We love things and there'snothing to matter.
We're loving things, we lovemoney.
Right, I tell y'all right now,probably by the end of the show,

(44:01):
or at least by next week's show, I'm going to have a Rolex.
Now, how I'm going to get thatRolex is something called
clockology, where you can put iton your Apple Watch face.
I'm going to have a Rolex on myApple Watch face because I like
things.
So, since I can't afford aRolex, I'm going to put it on my

(44:24):
Apple Watch face.
And I just learned how to keepit on all day.
Just hey, I'm like yeah, thatis a nice band you got.
Oh, you see that that?
Yeah, it was buy one, get onefree.
I got this for 80.
That's not bad.
Oh, yeah, that's why I'msitting up here.
Like you know, I figured 52years old, so time for me to

(44:46):
start looking like a grown man.
You know, I want to wear thesport band, so, so you see that.
So this is wait till you see,when I get the titanium one.
I got to apply for this PPPloan first, though they still
doing them.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Oh, they don't Damn.
Never mind, I guess I can't getit that $152.
I don't know if I can handlethat.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Man to directly charge some applicants a a 10
fee for successfully getting aloana.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
violation of the small business administration do
not pay less, involving severalbillions of dollars and how
much how?
Much fraud are we talking aboutjust in those?

Speaker 4 (45:25):
oh, it's right here 3.6 billion dollars hogridge and
reese are accused of attemptingto directly oh my god, I'm
going to tell you how crazy I am.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
You know they got the little what the hell, oh,
closed caption up here.
I ain't paying no attentionbecause I'm listening to him.
No, yeah, he absolutely said3.6 billion.
I think that was a total.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
But for them.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
They're in the 3.6 billion.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
So they're in the hundreds, they're in the
hundreds of millions like justthem two.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, they're charging 10%.
I know there was someone Dudewhy.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
NBA players that got Yo.
No, it's a few people dude thatgot charged with.
Okay, they did it for this.
Yeah, Hell, nah, I'm like nah.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
My thing is you knew the government was going to want
their money back at some point,so they started handing out all
this money during COVID.
These PPP loans, they're likehold up, we in a deficit.
Several billions of dollars.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
How much fraud are we ?

Speaker 2 (46:33):
talking about, just in those loans, $3.6 billion.
Wow, hawkridge and.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
Reese are accused of attempting to directly charge
some applicants a 10% fee forsuccessfully getting a loan, a
violation of the Small BusinessAdministration rules.
A review of the loans showedwhat the couple was willing to
do for the money, includingReese claiming in an application
he was African American and aveteran.
Other evidence showed he saidhe was what he was black.

(47:04):
He was a billion dollars offree money?
Oh hell no.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
A white man said he was a black veteran.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
Was he Robert Downey Jr?
He was a black man trying towin white men.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
he was a black veteran.
A review of the loan showedwhat the couple was willing to
do for the money.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
He was a black man trying to play a white man.
He was trying to play a blackman and a veteran I'm the

Speaker 4 (47:22):
dude disguised as a dude from black.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Ain't no coming back from that.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
No, I hope when he goes to jail somebody gonna put
something black in his bootyhole.
Damn Like oh, you want to beblack, huh?
What was the crazy dude's namein the Boondocks?
The Booty Warrior.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, fleece, oh, fleece Johnson, fleece Johnson.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Quote $100 billion of free money.
Yeah, and although the PPPloans were set up for small
businesses, hockridge told herstaff quote who the F cares?
We're not the first bank todecline borrowers who deserve to
be funded.
They can go elsewhere.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Recent, hockridge also requested direct payments
from PPP borrowers, ultimatelyscamming them out of substantial
amounts of their loans theEntire process in a 90-second
video.
Now at the center of an allegedfederal deception, the duo took
their stolen millions to set upa lavish lifestyle in Puerto
Rico, where her husband wastaken into custody by federal

(48:31):
authorities.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Say hi, babe, we caught.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
I'm glad they caught y'all.
Now.
Both Hawkridge and Reese arecharged with one count of
conspiracy to commit wire fraudand four counts of wire fraud.
Hawkridge has been summoned toappear in a Dallas Texas court
on Monday.
They face up to 20 years inprison on each count if
convicted Reporting live instudio Nicole Christine Fox.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
10 News Is that five counts.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, that's it.
At least 100 years, 100 years.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
No, they should never be out.
That's one thing you can't playwith.
You cannot fuck with thegovernment's money.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
They will get your ass.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Catch a body, all you want to you give them like
seven, eight years, you with amoney, life listen I don't know
harshest way, I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
This just excites me.
I'm excited, I want to see themno I absolutely do.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
You're going to watch that trial yo hell yeah because
, you am.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
You know he gonna be texting hey, man trial, yeah,
hell yeah.
I don't care about Puff.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Daddy and all that but them first off, you can't do
that.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Okay, so that's like you know, when they go, when you
go to the movies and all thatstuff they black all do.
Are you a student or are you aveteran?
Yeah, I you a student or areyou a veteran?

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, he said I'm a black veteran.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
I'm sitting up here, no, every single time.
There is not one time where Iact like I was a veteran.
I'd be like which one's better?

Speaker 3 (50:07):
They're both the same sir.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
They're both the same , sir.
I was just like Let me get bothof those I can't get student
veteran.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
They should let him and his missus go ahead and live
in the slums of an inner citysomewhere.
There you go, india.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Send them to Pakistan .

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Nah shit, they really don't want none of that.
Let them do it here and post upwith like what they did.
That's a damn shame, dog, heyman.
Hey I get it though.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Where there's a will, there's a way.
I'm not, I'm not.
I'm trying to get it.
The problem is they got toogreedy.
Yeah, you know, the problem isthey got too greedy, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
You know, damn, I mean, you couldn't stop at three
or four million Exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
And then, it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
It's so funny because I know y'all little news anchor
friends was jealous as hell.
Somebody probably blew thewhistle.
Oh listen, I tell you Somebodyelse is going down.
Yeah yeah, because they white.
So you know, they telling Allwhite people tell yeah, damn.
They all tell yeah, I guarantee.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
And it's not even like they needed all of that
damn money.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, I'm sure you was doing.
Okay, A news anchor positionain't that bad yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
I'm sure you're doing okay.
We can probably offer you adeal.
You know, instead of 20 years,we know it.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Hey, when they said that too, I was like oh my God,
I was reading it real, real slow, right, I said this, said
former.
I said please don't let this beCaribe Divine.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Oh, she's gone.
Huh, she's gone.
No, I'm just saying, I was justhoping.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I mean I don't know her like that.
But I'm just like because whenthey say former, I'm thinking
they.
But then when they was like oh,in Texas, I was like oh shit,
she's from Texas.
And then I'm like I didn't knowKariba's whole biography.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
I just saw her the other day.
Shit nigga cause.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
She's from Texas and she's beautiful, it's like hey
hey, if y'all don't know, lookup Kariba Devine she's on
channel 12, channel 12.
And then Vine she's on Channel12.
And then look up DominiqueNewland Y'all welcome.
And Dominique Newland is on Fox10.
And Career Bay Divine is onChannel 12.

(52:25):
Those are the beauties, the Jetbeauties of the week.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Man, I miss Jet.
I used to collect them shits,Y'all welcome.
Oh, a Jet Mm-hmm Used tocollect the Jets and you know
what I collected them for?
Oh, don't say the Spank.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Bank.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
No, not even a Spank Bank.
I just collected them, but Iwas looking at the booty of the
week.
Obviously beauty of the week mybad but man, I was over here
looking at the prices of actualRolex watches because I never
looked them up.
Yeah, I'm never going to own aRolex.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
How much is?

Speaker 3 (53:07):
that one.
The lowest I saw was $15,000.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Oh no, they more than that.
Oh, you said the lowest you saw.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
The lowest I saw was $15,000.
And I think it was at thisparticular jeweler.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah, I was going to say I think I've seen one before
.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, one diamond in it.
It's at 12 o'clock.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
No, there's some with no diamonds in it.
The one that I saw was the mostexpensive one.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
The most expensive I saw on this jeweler's site was
$95,000.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
For a watch, for a watch man, what's the rest of
your outfit going to look likethat shit.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
That is my outfit.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Right, I'm wearing that Rolex and a beater and some
busted jeans.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I'm walking around like this Right All day.
If I get a Rolex, excuse me.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Hey, I'm probably not even going to shower, he's
going to be doing Shadur all day.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
You want something to drink?
I got a.
Rolex, you want something todrink.
Everything he do he's going tobe reaching for I got a Rolex.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
You want something to drink Everything he do?

Speaker 4 (54:07):
He gonna be reaching for it.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
I got a Rolex.
Let me give you that.
Yeah, let me give you these.
Hey, you gonna be reaching Foryour car keys Hold up.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Let me get him.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
He just gonna be flashing.
Yeah, hell yeah 95k that dude,and I'm sure they got to add on
Tax and shipping and all that.
Yeah, no, that's a.
You spending a whole year'ssalary on a watch, hey do.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Rolexes come with a lifetime warranty, like Coach
Purse's.
Coach Purse's come with alifetime warranty.
Do?

Speaker 4 (54:41):
they.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know about the luxurylife I'm a very modest living
person.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
That's why I'm about to get a Rolex on my Apple Face
watch.
Yeah, then I'm going to get aCartier.
Damn, what are?

Speaker 3 (54:58):
you talking about Twice?
I remember I bought a.
Tiffany little bracelet for mymom, I think for her birthday or
something.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Yeah, one year $100.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
$200.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
I felt like I was a big boy.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Is it a Tiffany's store here?

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Yeah, that's where I went.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
The security guard standing at the door.
Sir, can we help you?

Speaker 1 (55:24):
No, listen, every time, for real, I've went into.
I remember going to tell youthis no, listen, every time for
real I've went into.
I remember I was in Cartier.
My boy came to visit.
It was him and his lady.
It was just like real nice too,and it was like Fashion Square.
He was like, oh man, I don'tknow if they, I don't know if

(55:45):
they trying to, I'm thinking hemust have just been on some from
Akron or, like I said, I had noidea because I walked in and a
t-shirt and like some gym shorts, I swear to God, and the people
was nice as hell.
The dude was like, oh, I don'tknow if he thought that was
somebody or what, but he waslike, oh, do you want to look at

(56:05):
something?
I was like, no, I'm, you wantto look at something?
I was like, oh, no, I'm just,I'm just tagging along.
Because I walked in the storethey had walked a little bit
ahead of me and I was justsitting there with my boy and I
was like.
He was like, oh man, I don'tthink they want to help me
because I'm black, because Iguess they didn't say, can I?
as soon as I walked, in it waslike oh hey, maybe, maybe I'll
help Most people know who'sserious about buying something.

(56:25):
I'm like yeah, They've seenenough.
I just walked in, but theyain't.
I don't know.
But that's I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Nah, they know who wants to buy something.
That's why I don't bother to go.
I don't window shop.
If I'm going somewhere, I'mgoing somewhere to buy something
.
Yeah, I'm right with you.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
True that that's the only way I shop.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
A purpose Shoes I'm going to get this shirt.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Hey, you might want to.
I'd say I like to frequent themall from time to time and just
walk around.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Be like that, ain't shopping.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Go to the Lamborghini dealership and be like.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
I just pissed myself off.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I'm like why does this car cost more than my house
?
Let me get up out of here.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Hey, those cars be expensive too.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Boy, I don't even know.
I know we ain't get to one.
Wait, I don't know what thehell.
Anyway, hey, y'all know howthis show rolls.
We talk about a story and wedon't get to it, and maybe we'll
listen back there and we'lltalk about it next week.
What story were we supposed totalk about?
I don't remember no more.
That's why that's the beauty ofthis show we just turn on the
mics and we talk.

(57:36):
That's exactly what we do.
Hey, what did I just read?
We start talking about crying.
Then we talked about hey, I dowant to put that thing on my
windshield, though, just to seewhat I can get Put my cash app
on there.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
A little.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
QR code.
Yeah, that's what it was.
The girl had a QR code too,yeah, she had a QR code and her
I remember it was Venmo.
And I was like what, and thatis, I wonder how much money she
got.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
I'm trying to put my kids through college.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Hey, what?
And that is, I wonder how muchmoney she got.
I'm trying to put my kidsthrough college.
Hey, I'll just be like, no, I'mgoing to put what it's really
for, like, I'm going to tell youthis one cat, a panhandler.
All this sign said was my wifehad a better lawyer.
I was dead.
Hey, this cat was getting somuch money.
Dog.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Hey, this cat was getting so much money dog.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I was dead man.
That's a good one.
I looked at him.
He just shrugged his shoulderslike well, I don't know if he
lying or not, but I was like man, that was great.
All right on there, I'm tryingto think the best one I saw was
why lie, I just need a beer.
All right on there, I'm tryingto think.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
The best one I saw was voila, I just need a beer.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
I saw that one, when you keep it, a hundred man.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Here's a dollar.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Yeah, exactly, I respect that Hell.
Yeah, go get you a beer, sir.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
I saw who sent the Little Debbie.
The Little Debbie.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
I did.
I haven't been yet.
I'm going to have to stop by.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Walmart.
Are they at Walmart?
I think so Because I'm going totry one.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
What's going on?
Debbie, make ice cream.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
All the flavors, all the flavors.
Yeah, it's real, yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
It's real, it's real.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
This ain't a hoax.
The shit got real.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
No, it's at Walmart, it's competing with Tom and.
Jerry's, because you know whatI do want to get.
I got to go to one of my littleconvenience stores.
I want to get Twix, the littleTwix ice cream.
Huh, yeah, that's interesting.
Huh, I told you.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
I told you I'm trying to get my life better.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I'm out here trying to get my life better.
I'm out here trying to get mylife better.
That's my shit, and they'retrying to give me the sugar, see
I think the ones I want.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
That's my grandson's favorite man.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
that's the way to tell him things, the double
stuff or the regular ones.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
See, I like the Swiss rolls.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Man.
I bought a pack of them right.
He went to sleep.
I ate one.
He woke up.
Who ate one of my?
He do that Keep it count.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
He ate one of my eggs .

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
My own.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Yeah, no I heard they even got Star crunch flavor too
.
Oh, I like the star crunchestoo.
I remember we used to trade.
I mess with the honey buns too.
Back in elementary school weused to be like oh, let me get
your Star Crunch.
You know, depending, like, ifyou get like a box, you're going

(01:00:34):
to have Star Crunch tomorrow.
So then you just start tradingthem out Like, hey, give me your
Swiss Rolls, I'll give you myStar Crunch.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
See, nutty Bar is my favorite.
Oh, I love Nutty Bar, but Iused to like the Twin P See
Nutty Bar is my favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Oh, I love.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Nutty.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
Bar but.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
I used to like the twin packs, like the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Devil.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Squares, because it came with two cakes.
Man, because it come packagedwith two cakes.
Like the zebra one like thezebra cakes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Man, I had a little.
Well, I did.
I did have a little Debbie, thelittle Debbie cream pie, my fat
boy about to come out right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I see man that brought tears to your eyes.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
We're the K-Full Circle man that got tears.
Hey, that's his happy ending,right?
Yeah, yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Everybody got that inner fat boy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Oh hell, yeah, yeah, boy Hell yeah.
I'm trying to lose my outer fatboy.
Oh, hell yeah, hell yeah, I'mtrying to lose my outer fat boy,
that's what I told them.
I was like man, they about tomess me up.
I've been doing good.
Now I want to go get some damn.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
That's hilarious.
Well, I tell you, watch Strawon Netflix, check it out.
And then all the other movieswe talked about, you can watch
Mississippi, burning the Butlerwhich one did you say?
Crooklyn?

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Marley and Me.
Don't watch Marley and Me.
Benji Air Bud, old Yeller.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Armageddon, armageddon.
That was't watch, lassie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Armageddon, that was mine that made me cry.
Oh yeah, that did make me crytoo.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Oh, no man.
He said oh yeah, man, I loveyou.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
You sitting up here.
Hey, it is okay for a man toshow his emotions.
Oh yeah, you know.
A lot of times I know for a manto show his emotions oh yeah,
you know a lot of times I knowyou got these young boys sitting
up here thinking they tough andall that Shit Ralph.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Tresvant head ass.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
You start sitting up here, you start getting up there
and then Right, that's my jam.
Right there, boy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Hey, all we going to do is sing Now I ain't playing
one song ever again, right there, boy.
Hey, all we gonna do is singNow I ain't playing one song
ever again on here, boy.
I don't know.
I heard somebody got they wentafter somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
You know, eminem ain't fucking around no more.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I'm not playing one.
Hey, these gonna be the songsyou gonna always hear.
Hey Blake, they gonna changethat intro up Absolutely not,
hey, eminem damn we got a goonsquad.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Oh, just people playing his music.
No, just they trying to get allthat fraudulent stuff to stop?
Yeah, Because he had an albumnot an album, but he had a bunch
of tracks released.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
And then somebody did some remix to him too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yeah, like some shit that wasn't supposed to get out.
Yeah, I heard that he did oneabout Suge Knight that was not
supposed to see the light of day.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Really, yeah, that's crazy dog.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Man, it's caught in there in my ankles.
It's dope, though.
What's it called?
I'll let you know.
Off air, you're going to haveto text you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yeah, I'm trying to think what's the how to Train
your Dragon?

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Is that what's coming out this weekend, 28 Years
Later?
Is coming out oh that's basedoff a video game Next week.
Oh, is that next week?
I think so.
No, it's based off of 28 DaysLater.
Have you ever seen that movie?
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Yeah, I remember that .

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
With the zombies, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
I just watched that last week, so 28 days later the
movie.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Now they doing 28 years later.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
So now it's 28 years, so they did 28 days later, 28
weeks later and then now 28years later.
I think you're thinking of theLast of Us.
No, the Last of Us.
I did watch.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
They do have the Unholy Trinity, and it's funny
Because let me see, I think, uh,okay I think, samuel jackson is
in that.
What's that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
I think the unholy trinity I wouldn't be surprised,
yeah, you don't say no, uh uh,let's see more info, yeah, he is
in it.
Yeah, david Arquette Samuel.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Jackson.
He's in the Holy Trinity.
Look like it's a cowboy movieyeah obviously the Karate Kid,
the last.
Is it Last Legend?
Obviously the Karate Kid, thelast.
Is it Last Legend?
I don't know what this is.
This is the Materialist.

(01:05:16):
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I'm not sure what that'sabout, but the dude that used to
be Captain America is in that,chris Evans, okay, and that
ain't uh, that's Anne Hathaway.
Well, 28 years later, until, uh, then it's next week, is it
next week?
It's something else coming out?

(01:05:36):
Well, no, I know something.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Elio's animation oh, it's a Pixar movie.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Oh, the Elio that looked like that's going to make
me cry.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Pixar movie oh the Helio that look like that's
going to make me cry.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Yeah, don't go see it , you might cry oh they're all
the movies, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
If you just man At that particular point in the
movie, it's probably going to belike an hour and 21 minutes in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Yeah, you sitting there like boy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Brokeback Mountain 20th anniversary.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I've never seen that Me, neither I heard it was a
good movie.
It actually is good.
Yeah, I've never seen it.
All I know is I wish I couldquit you For real.
Well, everybody, we're done.
See you next week, peace, happy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Father's Day.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Peace, holla Happy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Father's Day.