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Stoy Hall (00:00):
On and off for a few days.

(00:02):
But we're here, we in here so wegotta do some we got some recap.
We got some recap to do.
We're not gonna recap cuz wealready did that on Twitter.
And by the way, I then repostedthose to TikTok and stuff and
Instagram and they got just asgood views.
Yeah.
So decent backup.
Oh, that's good.
Decent backup.

(00:22):
National Natty.
Really you took TCU to cover andalmost, That wasn't close.
So it was at kickoff.
It was at kick in the firstdrive.
Yeah.
Two drives actually.
So one, so that's one.
Yeah.
And I didn't bring up, I didn'tprint off the end of the year
results for college football,but you beat me by four.

(00:44):
Oh.
Obviously the man, the comeback,like if

Cole Ingle (00:47):
you grafted it.
Oh no.
Yeah it was one of those windprobabilities.
Yeah.
99.

Stoy Hall (00:53):
It's

Cole Ingle (00:54):
yep.
It was like the Bengals Ravensgame where the win probability
for the Ravens had hunley notstuck the ball up in the air
instead of towards the end zone.
Correct.
One of those went from 65 1 wayto 85 the other way.
Yep.
Tough look.

Stoy Hall (01:08):
80.
We'll get to that though.
Tough look.
And then week 18 week 18 I wentseven and five.
You went three for nine.
It was

Cole Ingle (01:18):
yeah.
We're not here for week 18.
It was, we're in the playoffsnow.
It was tough.
That was like the Cowboys inweek 18.

Stoy Hall (01:25):
That was a tough one.
So that's

Cole Ingle (01:27):
know, and now I'm.
playing like the playoffcowboys.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:34):
Except, for you had to play me this week, so I know

Cole Ingle (01:36):
you, you crushed.
Hi.

Stoy Hall (01:39):
NFL's been good.
It's been good to me, especiallyin the playoffs.
So yeah, here we are.
Let's, recap.
Wild Card weekend.
For those of that, don't knowthat happened last weekend and
there were some good games andthen there was a game on Monday
night, which I still do not aagree to.
So first game Seahawks, nineERs.

(02:01):
Nine ERs were nine and a halfpoint favorites.
Totals

Cole Ingle (02:03):
42 and a half.
Gosh, this game feels like itwas a lifetime ago.
It was only three days ago, itfeels

Stoy Hall (02:08):
two weeks ago.
I'm not going.
Oh my goodness.
I really thought it was week 18when I was doing this.
I was like, wait, did they actplay again?
Oh this was just a,

Cole Ingle (02:21):
oh, I'm just pushing buttons.
So like playoff theme up tilllast night was I don't know if
I'll go all the way to badfootball.
Bad, but Competitive.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (02:38):
Sloppy, ugly, but competitive.
Ugly.
But competitive.
Yeah.
I agree.

Cole Ingle (02:42):
Yeah.
So I was like disappointed inthe quality of football, but
then you can't help but beintrigued in a game.
That's a one score game which iswhat we got.
Pretty much all weekend.
Pretty much all weekend untillast night.
Which we'll get to.
Oh my Lord.
Yeah.
Thoughts on both sides of that.
I get one week to wear myCowboys gear before I probably

(03:04):
get a put away for the year.
So

Stoy Hall (03:06):
there should not be a Monday night football game for
the playoffs.
No, that was stupid.
We'll get to it.
But that's stupid.
Seahawks, Niners this was a taleof, like we had talked about Ken
Purdy come out as a rookie andput on something and go win a
game.
First half he didn't look.
looked a little amped up to me.

(03:27):
A little juiced up, but you'llhave that.
Yeah.
Seahawks stayed with it for awhile and I really didn't watch
first half.
I'm not gonna lie.
When I tuned in was when theywere driving to take the lead
and then decided to go ahead andfumble.
Yeah.
And then it was a snowball, likesnow ball from there.

(03:49):
Yeah.
Touchdowns, turnovers,touchdowns, turnover stops.
Like it was ridiculous afterthat.
And then the Niners were incomplete control.
Yeah.
So I don't know what the firsthalf, I can't comment on the
first half, but the second half,the Niners looked like the best
team in the league well puttogether.
Channahan was dialing upeverything.
Guys were wide open.
Yeah.
And I don't even know if some ofthat, I'd have to look back at

(04:10):
the film.
Some of that was a couplemistakes, but some of that was
just schemed.
And it was impressive.
I know that cuz I've seen thatoffense Yeah.
Run very, hot.
So very interesting.
Second half I thought the Ninersjust took control, dominated and
looked like the better team.
And right now they're myfavorites to win it all as we
speak.

(04:31):
Did you watch first half?

Cole Ingle (04:33):
Yeah, I watched most of that game.

Stoy Hall (04:36):
And you give some more thoughts.

Cole Ingle (04:37):
I don't really I don't have a ton of thoughts on
that.
I feel like first half,especially of these playoff
games is a lot of feeling outnow.
Yes, these teams are divisionalopponents, but the Seahawks
hadn't seen Purdy twice.
Correct.
And the one thing that I'll saywith Purdy, like comfortable,
uncomfortable, whatever it maybe, he's comfortable late in

(05:01):
progressions and like creatingextra time, not necessarily to
scramble most of the time not toscramble.
A little bit flute esque.
Is what I felt like thisweekend.
Yeah.
Where somehow the guy's notgetting sacked somehow the guy's
not getting he's, notnecessarily on time or a hundred

(05:24):
percent accurate, but the ball'sgetting where it needs to go.
Somehow some way.
And then you throw shanahan'sscheme in there and obviously
when you can hand off to de youcan hand off to McCaffrey or you
can throw it to both of them.
You got, I don't forgetstretching the field, Kittle and
then Kittle.
So oops.
Kittle, like you've got fourreally good weapons that Shahan
has really paired together well.

(05:46):
That takes a lot of pressure offof any quarterback especially
one that's played as well asPurdy.
And I don't care if you're arookie or you're in your fifth
year or in your 20 whatever yearBrady's in.
A lot of it comes down to justhow comfortable you are with the
system, with the guys, with theoffensive line and Purdy for

(06:08):
whatever reason has been theperfect fit.
Better than Garoppolo even.
Yeah.
It almost goes back to you lookat the beginning of the year,
Trey Lance getting hurt and evenGaroppolo to some that's been a
blessing in disguise for them.
Sure has.
Cuz I just don't know they go

Stoy Hall (06:29):
as far as he goes.
Yeah.
I mean they, they can win aSuper Bowl essentially, or they
could lose this week to theCowboys, like that's really all
up to Purdy.
And I don't mean Purdy from hehas hasco throw for 340 yards
like he did, but he just has todistribute the ball and do what
he's been doing.
If something happens and hechanges, that's when I think

(06:50):
that'll go downhill for him.

Cole Ingle (06:52):
But it's all, which I mean, if you can co like
they've had a little bit of upsand downs, obviously he has not
lost a game, was a starter.
They had to, I think they won togame 13.
Nothing against the Saints.
So they've had games where theiroffenses struggled a little bit,
but not with a healthy deebo andMcCaffry and scary, even if you
hold them a few times, they'regoing to score points.

(07:16):
But Seattle just couldn't, keepup the entire game.
And as soon as, like you said,they, the mistake was made, the
49ers really capitalized that.
And the, big thing that happenedwas Samuel got tackled and he
felt like one of the defenderslike was trying to twist his
knee at the end of a tackle.
And they said that like in theirpost game, that that was the

(07:39):
turning point.
They felt disrespected or likethat they were trying to hurt.
And then like you watched areplay and whatever motivation
you need, but from that point,They just absolutely destroyed
cattle yeah.
The rain didn't, wasn't afactor.
No, it's a lot of points there.
Yeah.
What I expected, the rainactually held off to because it
just absolutely poured on themabout 15 minutes after the game.

(08:03):
Got over.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (08:04):
Which we thought would hit, that's why we took
the under and yeah.
Boy, was that a mistake?
But yeah, that Niners game I cutyou off.
Yeah, that's all right.

Cole Ingle (08:16):
I know where you, but I also had the under, I
believe in that game.
So That's correct.
Yeah.
So 49 ERs move on as expected.
They cover the nine and a halfand the total of 42 and a half
went over.
Next game up was the, Chargers,

Stoy Hall (08:33):
chargers, Jags, and Jags.
Wow.
This game.

Cole Ingle (08:39):
So you didn't see the beginning of this game
either?
Oh, I did.

Stoy Hall (08:43):
Or you did see the beginning of I stopped watching
when it was 27.
Nah, it's okay.
And then I then I had to comeback and tune back in because
chaos was in Syria.
So I wasn't watching, I didn'twatch the first three picks.
Let me back up.
Yeah.
I was following.
And then I picked it up late andthen what happened?

(09:06):
So the, story that goes behindthis one is, it.
the offense's fault.
Is it defense's fault Headcoach.
Offense coordinator's got fired.
So he's gone.
Is it the quarterback's fault?
And before you answer that, Iwill go back to this point.
We called Herbert Wet socialmedia quarterback or whatever we
called him.
Yeah He is not getting reallyany hate for losing this game.

(09:30):
No, but we'll say like MattRyan.
Gets hate for all big collapses.
How is that, not the same?

Cole Ingle (09:40):
Becau Oh because the Chargers charged So like the
Chargers have done this before.
It's like Matt Ryan was with theFalcons and so like he led the
charge on the Falcons being theFalcons, the Collapser.
Yeah.
Whereas it was, whether it wasPhillip Rivers or whoever even

(10:02):
was before that, the Chargersjust no matter how good they are
or how bad they are, they Yeah.
Find a way.
It's like the Vikings or theFalcons there's a handful of
teams.
Teams that league it like theyjust me into, yeah.
So they do, it doesn't matterwho the, personality that you
put in there.
Somehow the franchise is cursedin some way if you look at it.

(10:26):
That was the weirdest fourinterception game I've seen from
a standpoint of firstinterception is a, tip ball.
a d lineman and gets tipped byanother D lineman and then
caught.
Yeah.
Which, how often does thathappen?
So fluke play, interception,whatever.
Second interception should havebeen illegal contact on the

(10:49):
field.
It was on fourth down.
Throw the ball receiver.
Doesn't get turned around.
Defender catches it again.
Should have been a penalty.
Yeah.
So now you've thrown two picksand two drives.
Made some good throws inbetween.
Third interception.
Got absolutely fooled by the

Stoy Hall (11:08):
coverage.
Oh, and we have this one, wehave this clip.
So coach's corner.

Cole Ingle (11:11):
Yep.
We're gonna go through that one.
Really good, just really gooddisguise.
Locked in, made the throw, justdidn't read the overall
coverage.
Trusted his pre-snap and so nowit looks really bad because he
is thrown three two of which arewhat they are.
And then you get to the fourthone, which basically ended up

(11:32):
being a punt.
Now do you love to throw No.
Did he maybe have something elsethere?
Possibly.
But essentially Lawrence hasthrown four picks and one of'em
was bad, right?
And two of those possessions,the chargers settled for field
goals.
Flip it to the chargers.

(11:53):
The chargers missed anopportunity to go up 31 to
nothing.
Missed two wide open guys in theend zone where they end up
having to settle for a field.
And all of that iscircumstantial.
You go back and hindsight's2020, but that's when you can
really put the scoringtouchdowns after those mistakes

(12:14):
is huge because anything lessthan a touchdown is a win for
the defense.
And you can speak to that alittle bit on sudden change,
which we've talked about.
As far as creating a turnover,if the defense can hold the
other team to a field goal orless, then that's a win for the
defense in any of those.

(12:35):
So the fact that they were ableto do that two outta four times
and get a score before halftime,which I, think was the biggest
thing.
Now you got, now there'smomentum.
Lawrence hasn't thrown the ballbad.
It's not like he was gettingabsolutely killed in the pocket.
There weren't those signs, kindalike what we saw last night
where Brady was bad, but Bradywas also, he had people at his

(12:59):
feet.
And then like you could justtell he was uncomfortable.
Lawrence didn't ever lookuncomfortable to me.
And so as it started thecomeback, if the Chargers
weren't going to score, I waslike they're at least gonna have
a chance to get back in thisgame unless the Chargers and the
Chargers never really did provethat they could drive the field.
I think they had one drive over50 yards maybe that scored.

(13:21):
That was one of those thingswhere should it ever happened?
No.
Where the it's that perfectstorm, which you have to have.
I just, the chargers ran thefootball eight times.

Stoy Hall (13:36):
See, this is this, is, that's

Cole Ingle (13:38):
my point.
This clock management run thedamn ball.
And I run the ball.
So these are NFL quarterbacksand the nfl obviously you've got
offensive coordinators, anythinglike that.
But like at some point, if youand I can sit here and say it
and everybody's sitting on thecouch at home can sit here and
say it, if I'm Justin Herbert,I'm

Stoy Hall (13:56):
just gonna,

Cole Ingle (13:56):
I'm call on it.
I gotta call, I gotta startrunning the ball.
Because it feels like what theydid to me was they turned what
they thought was going to betheir running game into a short
passing game, but it wasn'tsuccessful.
And so therefore you didn't runclock at all.
At all.
And then you also didn't movethe ball down the field.
So I could even have felt alittle more oh, if they're like

(14:19):
trying to score go play action,try to hit big over the top and
really put it away.
No, they weren't doing thateither, so yeah there's fault
all around.
I don't think it's any oneparticular person.
You had a feeling that theoffensive woes were going to
fall on the offensivecoordinator.

(14:40):
And then ultimately thequarterbacks coach as well.
Fair.
It's just the nfl, it's NFLbusiness.
It's not, yeah.
If you're the head coach andyou're hearing the play calls,
tell him to run the damn

Stoy Hall (14:51):
ball.
Say no, run the ball, yeah.
That,

Cole Ingle (14:54):
was, yeah.
And the coach is a defensiveminded coach and he gives up 30
points.
Last last possession and thenthe entire second half.
So he scored what, three, whatwas it?
30?
33.
30.
So you scored three points fromthe time that you went up 27.
Nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That scored 33 to three.

(15:14):
Yeah.
With a missile.
With a mis short fuel.
With a missile fuel goal.
Yeah.
40 yarder.
That's a chip shot.
Nfl.
A shot in nfl unless year you'remayor.
Hey,

Stoy Hall (15:22):
is this your guy, JT 56?
No, but we're chatting with himanyways.
We'll talk about the, Phillygame later as he's getting into
it.
But yeah, I, and a lot of peopleare saying the defense should,
again, that the points of thedefense had five turnovers.
If I'm a defender and I causefive turnovers, we should not

(15:42):
lose that game.
You should not.
And to only get 30 points outtathat.
Not great.

Cole Ingle (15:50):
Yeah.
I just I, feel bad for Chargersfans because of that.
I was literally on watching thegame uncomfortable last night
because of what happened to theChargers.
Expecting Dallas to somehowscrew it up by missing Ps by
giving up an onsite kick.
How many teams talk about thathave missed four a four PAs and

(16:11):
an onsite kick and got given andone, and still won by multiple
scores?
Oh, I

Stoy Hall (16:15):
can't wait for that.
But Jacks go through, we wantedJags to go through.
We thought we I, mean we, Ipicked them to win.
You went with the Chargers, likea dumb, Oh

Cole Ingle (16:24):
yeah.
I wasn't an idiot.
Yeah, I wasn't an idiot.
I didn't tell you.
Mine was, I was first.
Oh, fair.
Ah

Stoy Hall (16:30):
I got all the locks, so next year we're gonna go just
by half.
Yeah if it works, then we getonto the Dolphins bills.
Man, what a, we're just not agood showing overall by Buffalo.
It was just, man I,

Cole Ingle (16:46):
like they were just got out to a hot are they're up
17, nothing.
Correct.
And that was just gonna be ablowout, like everybody thought.
And then it just went, then theydied.
I think a little bit like theylost, they think you go into the
dolphin's gonna roll over,obviously they're coming out
playing for Hamlin.
So you gotta, you, you've gotthat and then once it wears off,
then what?
You're in a football game,right?

(17:07):
Josh Allen turned the ball overtwice again on bad plays stuff
that he's gonna have to cleanup.
Why I'm, I just don't know if Ican trust.
I don't know if I can trust JoshAllen, he's, he showed it all
year that he's been prone to redzone interceptions, which is not

(17:31):
good.
He's turned the ball overbetween fumbles and
interceptions more than anyonein the league.
And that's saying a lot cuz alot of good quarterbacks have
turned the ball over a lot thisyear.
Dak Prescott being example one Aand he protected the ball last
night.
Dallas dominated the game.
So there's a lot that goes intothat.
And then obviously as you getdown to these games divisional
rounds and.

(17:52):
championship games, like that'sgonna matter.
And at some point, if you're nottaking care of the ball, that's
gonna bite you in the ass, eventhough it didn't catch up to the
bills this weekend and it didn'tcatch up to the Jaguars this
weekend.
And that is definitely notsomething to be expected or a
trend that would Correct.
I would anticipate holding up.

(18:12):
So Yeah.

Stoy Hall (18:13):
And in great fight by the dolphins yeah, ultimately
they have, they don't have aquarterback issue, but they have
solid quarterbacks overall theway they've been playing.
So that one went over.
It's a great call by your boy onthat one, but we went Bill's
bill split there.
That's fine.
Whatever.
Moving on.
Giant spankings.
Oh God.

(18:34):
It felt so good to be right.
It really did.
Like this was the turning point.
This is when I said you had ashitty shot because Oh, it
really was actually locked itin.
Yeah.
Man, did it feel great acrossthe board on this one?
And it held true all year.
We had talked about who'sfraudulent, the Vikings their
offense and held steady on theirdefense.

(18:56):
I have giants in this game.
No, not money line.
Yeah,

Cole Ingle (19:00):
absolutely.
24.
23 with a strip sack of cousins.

Stoy Hall (19:03):
I thought you said with a game winning field law.
Oh, anyhow, that matter.
I'll give it to you.
I'm not gonna, you got 11,you're not gonna 13.
Yeah, no, yeah.
So we had the Giants inultimately.
They're the Minnesota Vikingsdefense is just frauds.
They couldn't stop'em like itwas.

(19:25):
And the crazy thing, and we'regoing back and forth, run Barky,
why is Barky not running?
You should run the, with Barky.
And Daniel Jones torched him forI think, nineties something.
It was, yeah, it was a clinicand he played, that's why his
best game is a pro.
Gotta be up there.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (19:41):
But okay, so we can we can get into this now.
You've called the Vikings,Stevens, you everyone frauds,
right?
The team frauds?
Yep.
Is Daniel Jones not just a caseof a guy who played well, but
then that is magnified becauseof how bad the Vikings defense
is?
Oh, a hundred percent.
Oh yeah.

(20:01):
You don't expect him to come outagainst the Eagles and play
that?
Not, a chance.

Stoy Hall (20:04):
Okay.
He'll play better.
It could be a confidence boosterthing.
Okay.
But this was his best game as apro.
They can't knock that.
Like statistically he playedwell, but the Vikings defenses
just fraudulent, sir.
Yeah.
No, I

Cole Ingle (20:19):
This is not, don't, this is Barkley gets enough
touches for the Giants and Ithink that's ultimately what
will lead to their demise.
If they don't run them, do thesame thing as the Cowboys do.
They don't, they just don't givetheir best player the ball.
Now, if they don't get

Stoy Hall (20:29):
him the ball this weekend they, have zero shot.
No zero.
But they went in, took care ofbusiness Minnesota.
They, are what we thought theywere.
11 to one and one score games.
It was just this was gonnahappen.
Yeah.
I don't know where anyonethought this wouldn't happen,

(20:49):
but this was gonna happen.
And it did.
And it did.
How about the Ravens Bengals?

Cole Ingle (20:56):
Ravens Bengals?
It was like this, it's adivisional game, and that's why
like I, you and I talked andwhen we did our, Twitter, I
hated that all of these gamesare, half of the games were
divisional games.
It's already the playoffs, soyou're already going to have

(21:19):
games that look a little sloppy.
But then you throw in, you'vealready played each other twice,
you know each other.
It just, in some ways, itmuddies the games up, in my
opinion.
Absolutely.
Hunley played well.
He did burrow played fine.

(21:41):
And he didn't do anything tohurt his team, which essentially
is what won on the game.
Yeah.
But he didn't make any plays.
Ultimately it came down to hehad won really they had won
really impressive drive.
And besides that, they couldn'tdo anything.
They were stifled by the Ravensdefenses.
And Chase had, I think, ninecatches.

(22:01):
So they he got his, touchdown.
But overall I was disappointedin the Bengals.
Now they started two or threenew offensive lineman.
That's a storyline goingforward.
So I, I was surprised that theRavens were able to hang in.

(22:24):
I was too.
But ultimately they're play awayfrom winning that football game.
Oh,

Stoy Hall (22:29):
they score there.
I, just don't I agree.
Which was a

Cole Ingle (22:34):
crazy, which is it's crazy to think about right now
that and ultimately alls he hadto do was not reach up and
literally just let his 300 poundfullback push his ass into the
end zone.

Stoy Hall (22:45):
Correct.
Or, crazy thought you justdon't, you're short.

Cole Ingle (22:50):
But Trevor Lawrence did the same thing.
But it's a di like you just haveto understand the situation of
which, like, where is, so likeLawrence, when he snuck, I think
he was on like the two yard lineand so had a gap and then
there's nobody in front of himbetween the reach out.
You're just, and then who like,yeah, somebody's gonna knock

(23:13):
that shit out of there and hewasn't close like I half a yard
away.
Yeah.
That's

Stoy Hall (23:18):
like he is says the chip in the ball, which will
also

Cole Ingle (23:20):
get too situation.
There's a chip in a ball.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was the blow, blow yourmind just outta the weekend or
whatever.
But so yeah.
I mean I, I felt like the Ravenshad a good game plan.
And if they take care of theball, they win the game.
Again, that comes down to onepossession and a lot of these

(23:41):
playoffs games are gonna bedecided on that.
That was a push, I thinkoverall.
I think the line was seven.
Game finished, 31 24.
That game went over.
So just push, push across theboard.
We didn't lose that one.
You kind,

Stoy Hall (23:55):
that's the loss.
No it's, this isn't color.
That's great.
Oh, that's fair.
That's yellow.
Okay.
That's

Cole Ingle (24:02):
fair.
So we were, you were 13, fiveand one.
Or I went in the loss.
Technically

Stoy Hall (24:08):
It's, in the loss.
We'll do that to yourself,

Cole Ingle (24:09):
but technically it's not.
But yeah, the game went over, Ibelieve.
Sure.
Did number.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (24:20):
No, didn't 41.
Oh, that's

Cole Ingle (24:23):
right.
It was 41.
That game should have gone over.
It should have went over.
Yeah.
It was 41 forever.
That's awesome.
I was thinking it was going togo over, but Yeah.
I never did.
I don't have my phone whatever.
Oh, and yeah, I, so hopefullythe Bengal can come together a
little bit more on the O line sotheir offense can be a little

(24:44):
more appreciable than the bills.
I expect.
The Bill's spangles game to be.
Yeah.
A good battle and

Stoy Hall (24:50):
yeah, absolutely.
So we get into Monday nightYeah.
With our.
Ooh.
Almost pushed a button thatmaybe had not been there.
Wrote the voice.
Yeah.
What's the bucks?
I'm just gonna jump in and say,never in my mind did I have a
doubt that the cowboys would notwin that game.

(25:12):
A lot of people were trying tojump up on the Brady train and
say, oh, Brady can do the ble.
Get, outta here.
Okay.
Cowboys a better team.
They showed it.
And now resident Cowboy fan, youcan go ahead and take the

Cole Ingle (25:27):
floor.
First two drives were absolutegarbage by both teams.
Oh.
I think there was negative twoyards in the first four total
drives or something.
Something just absolutelyridiculous.
Let's we, talked play callingwas

Stoy Hall (25:40):
brutal.
Cowboys, you said cowboys wentthrow, They

Cole Ingle (25:44):
went short pass garbage, inaccurate, short pass
garbage.
Next drive, third and

Stoy Hall (25:49):
long.
Everyone in, everyone knowswhat's coming.
Right after you go three and outwith three in completions

Cole Ingle (25:55):
a run, run right up the middle, but like super
uncreative, no motion nothing,to move the defense stuffed.
Minus two, now you have to throwon second down nothing and have
to throw on third down.
Nothing bad, The bucks wereequally as bad.
Brady was inaccurate all night.
So even when he had time, hedisguised and he mis.

(26:18):
badly.
And then he turned the ball overFirst Red Zone interception
since 2019.
Yeah.
As a buck.
Yeah.
Basically, but since 2019.
Yeah.
He was seven and oh, likeeverything was against the
Cowboys from Brady PerspectiveSeven and oh, against the
Cowboys.
Dak had never beat him.

Stoy Hall (26:37):
Cowboys haven't won a road playoff game 16 decades

Cole Ingle (26:41):
or whatever it was.
One, three playoff games in thelast 25 years.
So that's not saying a lot True.
True.
And they played terrible in week18 against Washington, even
though they played theirstarters for no reason.
So just a lot of things workingagainst them, but on that
football game, wow.
Drive three hit a run to Pollardright away.

(27:03):
Got him outside.
Can you say that again?
Hit a run to Pollard.
Okay.
Cuz that needs to here's theother problem is Pollard's not
in the first two series most ofthe time because Zeke's still
the starting running back.
And so you're putting yourselfjust in a hole immediately by
not having your best player onthe field to start the game.
I don't care if you wanna putZeke out there, put'em both out

(27:24):
there, but you can't not havePaula, Paula needs touches.
Take him touches.
He could do everything Christiancan McCaffrey can do if you just
give him the touches thatMcCaffrey gets, in my opinion.
Hot take, cold take.
I don't know what that is, butthat's artwork.
Put it out there for sure.

(27:44):
Yeah, they finally, and onceonce they got.
First touchdown, of course theylet the box go right back on the
field and Brady makes one of themost boneheaded throwaways.
He was

Stoy Hall (27:57):
a throwaway.
So I,

Cole Ingle (27:58):
but like he wasn't even really that pressured to
where he shouldn't have justbeen able to launch that shit
out of the back of the end zone.
Wait,

Stoy Hall (28:04):
which was the crazy, I hope we have that clip.
I'm pretty sure we have thatclip right.
But if you slowed down, it was arun play, it was an RPO that the
two receivers were blocking andthey stopped And he just then

Cole Ingle (28:17):
Lofted into, no one.
I'm not No, it was bad.
It, was,

Stoy Hall (28:22):
that

Cole Ingle (28:22):
was probably, so that was big cuz they could have
got momentum back as far as oneDallas had missed the p a t
number one.
The first one, Nu num numeralUno.
Yeah.
So you take a seven to six leadmost likely type of thing.
So just a lot of differentmomentum things that happen
there.
Also an you've missed the p a T,but then when the other team

(28:43):
scores and then makes it, it'slike it re it reverts back.
So it almost like burns youtwice.
Yeah.
When you give the touchdown backto back touchdowns up type of
thing, you're like, and thenyou're like, oh my god, the
kicker are you?
So just the fact that tho thathappened, that was huge.
Dallas goes down and scoresagain, this is another p a t.

(29:07):
And at that point, like theyfinally got a flow finally
figured out, oh yeah, what Tampawas trying to do.
I feel like Moore got into agroove with a play calling.
Again, it was beautifulactually.
Yeah.
Pollard got going.
They had a lot of guys open.
Gallup made a fuck, a couple bigcatches.
And then that's what they haveto have.

(29:29):
Like Gallup has to be big onthird down and he was.
Yep.
And then Liam has to get open inthe open field, get on those
crossing routes.
How the Vikings use JustinJefferson that's, where CD Lamb
thrives, not in combative one onone coverage, in my opinion.
That's where you can use Gallup.

(29:50):
And you can use both the tightends had some big plays and just
use t y Hilton as you need himin the slot.
He's good for X amount of playsa game.
He's not a guy you wanna run outthere, but every play or every
snap.
But they, utilized their, guyswell, and guys made plays when

(30:13):
they needed to.
Dak almost threw a pick in theend zone on one, went right
through the Yeah.
Defender's hands.
And somehow Gallup ends up onthe receiving end, but then
Vander Esh missed a pick laterin the game.
But I'm watching the whole gameand again, in my mind, one, it's
the Cowboys two, you're playingagainst Tom Brady and like
you've already had the gaff offour consecutive PTs and only

(30:35):
one of the four was even close.

Stoy Hall (30:38):
To be fair, I don't really think, oh, the one that
hit the upright

Cole Ingle (30:41):
right.
Besides that you couldimmediately tell by body
language that he had no, thethree words, no clue where the
ball was going.
He muffed one heed.
The first one was a pure shank.
Shank.
That was a shit

Stoy Hall (30:55):
That was ale first.
Yeah.
You hod the shit outta that.
It was fat.
Yes.
So the next one, then he waslate.
And Billy who kicked for usJanssen he, was going back and
forth and he was just sayingfrom a, like a snap hold fine.
His plant foot was too close theentire time.
And then I pat McAfee even saidthis, he's he looks like he's

(31:19):
trying to guide it in as opposedto just pound the ball,

Cole Ingle (31:22):
threw it upright, which I mean, which he
eventually not have an issue onnumber all year.
So this is, or in his careerreally.
Even so this, yeah.
Completely one off out of thenorm type of thing, but, and no

Stoy Hall (31:35):
pressure, like there was no pressure on this.

Cole Ingle (31:36):
Like he get maybe, three and four, he got self cut
point And I look at back at itand it's so Dallas then goes for
a fourth and short around thegoal line where they sneak with
Dak when playing golf.
We both agreed though that theyshould have kicked it.
No, they should have kicked it.
Yes.
Just based on points getting upmultiple scores it's early in

(31:58):
the game.
You want points against a Bucksteam who struggles to score
points.
Absolutely.
Couldn't have faulted him for.
May or may not have kicked itbased on whether or not they
made previous

Stoy Hall (32:10):
kicks.
I, I think the same thing.
But that play call though, Ithink they knew like this
situation, this play call iswhat we're doing.
It's a

Cole Ingle (32:16):
hundred percent.
But then later, by the way, thegame, they go on a fourth and
four they get CD lamb wide openon a wheel route, on a play
action.
Just beautiful.
Yeah, great play call.
Great, most direction.
But again, think it should kick,most likely kick the field goal
there if you had any confidence.
And it didn't ever look likeMcCarthy even hesitated, like
the kicker had his helmet on cuzthey pan into him.

(32:37):
McCarthy wouldn't even look overthere.
No.
Like they, he's like not achance.
But then he did finally make KTdid one watch

Stoy Hall (32:45):
a McCarthy, he

Cole Ingle (32:46):
hit, it was hilarious.
So then I'm feeling morecomfortable at that point they
go down, score, get an onsitekick and I'm just like, we gotta
get stop.
Oh shit, while we get anotherred zone stop.
And again, like at that point,like the feasibility of a
comeback would've been twoonsite kicks, immediate

(33:08):
touchdowns and like positivelong film.
Like a long field goal.
Too good to overtime to get toovertime.
Yeah.
And so like you feel pretty goodabout them, but like they missed
the first onsite kick.
Noah Brown just botched the shitout of it and it's just man, so
definitely it's some things toclean up, but again, a good
problem to have.
If it's a kicker and an onsitekick that you're working at when

(33:29):
you're up three possessionsyeah.
But yeah, looking forward tonext week.
It's big, obviously.
Good, win overall.
Here's what I'll promise nextweek I'll work my cowboys gear
in either way.
Okay.
As to not be either way.
Fair weather fan.
That's, Hey.
Okay.
If they win again next weekthough, you've gotta wear

(33:51):
Cowboys gear.
That's fine.
That's two in a row.
That's fine.
Two, I like double their playoffwins over the last 20 years.

Stoy Hall (33:57):
I, said the Niners are now my new favorites.
They beat the Niners all ridethe

Cole Ingle (34:01):
Cowboys today.
That's my problem though.
Is that the, so it's, I mean youlook at nfc, NFC East has three
teams right.
In the final four of the, theirdivision.
The problem is the team that Iwould root for besides the
Cowboys, is who they play thisweek.
I wouldn't root for the Giantsone and I would much rather be

(34:21):
playing Philly this week than,San Francisco.
I think San Francisco's playingas good of football as anybody
in the national football.

Stoy Hall (34:28):
They're in a damn groove.
And you don't wanna mess withthat.

Cole Ingle (34:30):
Yeah, don't.
So it's it's tough.
I, cuz I won't be, I won't bemad if the 49ers win.
I you'll, my picks later.
I, think they will win.
I think they can do things that.
to neutralize the Cowboys bestplayers on both sides.
Yeah.
That the Cowboys can't do totheir best players.

(34:52):
We'll get into that a little bitmore, but going to enjoy this
week a good win over the goat.
You should retire.
Nobody.
Oh man, he's done.
I don't know if you wanna gointo that at all, but he looked
I think it's in our Twitter for

AudioOnly (35:05):
you.

Stoy Hall (35:05):
He looked bad.
He was thrown in at people'sfeet and not the intentional
grounding stuff we were talking

Cole Ingle (35:10):
about.
I'm talking like just ball, liketiming, balls, like feet.
We're talking about two yardsbehind.
Obviously the bad interception.
So Yeah.
Not a good look for the bucksoverall.
And I think the dismantlingthere has most likely begun.

Stoy Hall (35:24):
So I had 13 you had 11.
So there's your another shittyshot.
Shitty shot.
I do need to grab a pin though.
That was the peanut butterwhiskey.
Oh yeah.
Ota.
Yeah.
That's not

Cole Ingle (35:35):
good.
I like peanut butter whiskey,but that's a whole nother got am

Stoy Hall (35:39):
level of not good peanut butter whiskey.
Yeah.
Not good.

Cole Ingle (35:44):
Got me.
Got him.
Got me real good.
God.
A guy named real good.

Stoy Hall (35:50):
All right, let's let the fun begin.
I gotta figure out.
All right.
Scroll for years.
Thursday.
Thursday, yep.
There she is.

(36:11):
It's that shit.

Cole Ingle (36:12):
We talked about that last time.
Did we?
Yep.

Stoy Hall (36:14):
Oh.
How about the prop?

Cole Ingle (36:20):
I don't know if we talked about it.
I don't know.
We didn't get into that.
We don't need to.
I didn't say this week.
I don't have to.
But were you surprised Lamardidn't play for the Ravens?

Stoy Hall (36:37):
Yeah, actually.
Because it seemed like he justhad a grade two, I think it was
sprain.
This is his what, fifth week?
Sixth week?
Yeah.
Gets well within playing time.

Cole Ingle (36:48):
So thoughts on the, two different opinions that were
out there between the two bigones were RG three applauding
him for not playing versusMichael Vick basically calling
him out, telling his ass to puta brace on it and get in there
for his teammates.

(37:10):
What's that?
Do you fall on a side there?
Who is, you only know, only youknow, your body type of thing.
Obviously this is, you both had

Stoy Hall (37:19):
injuries.

Cole Ingle (37:21):
But we don't have playing hurt and playing
injured.
Two different things.
We also

Stoy Hall (37:24):
don't have what,$200 million contract on the line
either.
I get it.
From a business standpoint, Iunderstand from an athlete
standpoint, I've, I would'vetried everything right to play
just, everything possible.
One, because you.
How often do you he's been inplayoffs more than often than

(37:44):
not, but you just don't get theopportunities that much.
Yeah.
And so I would rather bet on menow.
Now I don't know how he feels.
We don't know that part.
But if I'm good enough to go outthere and limp, figure this
thing out, I'm gonna go outthere and limp, figure this

Cole Ingle (37:59):
thing out.
Okay, next question.
Why wasn't he at the game?

Stoy Hall (38:04):
See that's the that's not even a question.
Why the hell weren't you on?
You'd be on the sideline.

Cole Ingle (38:11):
It doesn't appear like he was there anywhere.
Wouldn't you be?
If he was there, a camerawould've found him.
Yeah.
So I don't know if

Stoy Hall (38:19):
Let us know if he was there or not.
I didn't see him.
No, they didn't really talkabout him much besides his tweet
and everything.
But I found that very that wasmore concerning than him not
playing.
Yeah.
Cause what does that say?
But, alright, so here's the Jagsand the tweet reads, and I'm not

(38:41):
gonna, I don't have it pulled upso I'm not gonna read it, but
basically that the Chargers weregoing what was it man?
They were going, man, let mejust read it.
God damn Bless America.
Charges have been played.
Single high coverage on everyfirst and second down snap so
far.
And then on the last third downthey show Robert, which is

(39:05):
another single high and rotateto, to cover too.
So this is the third

Cole Ingle (39:09):
pick?
Yeah, this is the thirdinterceptions one I was talking
about earlier.
So basically what they'reshowing there is that safety at
the top of the screen isrotating back to the middle of
the field.
Lawrence is seeing thatinitially as, so pre-snap the,
safety's gonna roll down intothe middle.
If if you're seeing the videoyou're gonna want have one high

(39:32):
safety and then you're gonnahave corners that are either
playing man-to-man on theirspecific receiver, or they're
gonna be backing off into sometype of cover three, covering
their third of the field.
What they do so well here isthat basically right up until
the snap of the football you aregetting the full adjustment into
that robber or cover three look.

(39:54):
And they then readjust go intocover two which means that
corner is gonna be on the frontside.
And instead of getting man toman, which Lawrence just tries
to hit a crossing route on this,and there's a corner standing
right there that he neveranticipates being there at all.
And just doesn't get to that inhis progression.

(40:15):
So and so from a really good

Stoy Hall (40:17):
disguise, right?
Oh, this is, this disguise isyou don't get much better.
And the reason for that is one,if they're in.
doing what they're doing, he'sgonna run in motion.
Is what he's doing.
That is a man signal.
You would've had one safetycoming down to play robber if
this receiver was three by onthis side.
It went two by two.
So again, they're gonna talk,he's gonna come down and go

(40:39):
back.
Still not giving away thatthey're in cover two, not even
close.

Cole Ingle (40:43):
And here's the last thing that happens on this, is
the linebacker goes with thereceiver in motion, which is
indicative of man, coverage.
Man, coverage.
And probably the biggestindicator Absolutely.
Of whatever's going on behindyou, that you're either gonna
get two, man, even if youthought that the safeties were
just messing with you, you'restill man being in two man,
there's nothing, you stillwouldn't have a corner as a flat

(41:04):
defender on the other side.
Nope.
So just an a incredible disguisebutton,

Stoy Hall (41:09):
chargers in and the, communication and, prep, like
this is great.
This is great to, see.
And then we roll, we'll attemptto roll footage seven times.
Why does it always stick here?
No.

(41:29):
Got it.
Don't worry.
We got it there.
He goes in motion.
That's in motion.
Okay.
We're in man.
We're in man.
We're good.
They even flip there and all ofa sudden boo boom boo.
There's cup too.
You don't see I, and I didn'teven notice this the other time.
Corner and linebacker flip.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (41:46):
It's even sell it more nickel package or dime
package.
So yeah.
Yeah, that's just, which justmakes sense when you're gonna
run that coverage because that'swho you would want as afl.
He's a natural flat defender,being a linebacker or safety.
And then letting

Stoy Hall (42:00):
the quick Twitch guy be in the middle.
Yep.
Yep.
Absolutely.
So great.
Just,

Cole Ingle (42:05):
yeah, actually don't even seemed really,

Stoy Hall (42:08):
I don't even call this one on Lawrence.
It is on Lawrence.
But this is a defense that Yeah,it just got this pitch.
Just tricked him.
Just tricked hell out him trick.
Tricky.
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

Cole Ingle (42:18):
So love that one.
Yeah, love win for the Chargersas the whole first half was, and
then slow downhill from there.
From there.

Stoy Hall (42:27):
This was just a good shoutout to my Falcons and the
Bears and the Bronco Wass, whichwe all have friends of all of
these,

Cole Ingle (42:33):
so I don't know, like we can both agree that we
probably think that the 49ersare playing, at least in the
nfc, the best football.
Anyone in the league and maybe,in the entire NFL point.
They've lost four games thisyear.
You're about to tell us whothree of those losses are.
Two, three of the four.
The other one is the Chiefs

Stoy Hall (42:50):
Bears, Broncos.
Falcons.
Is that Falcons by doubledigits?
Are

Cole Ingle (42:54):
those all picking in the top five of the draft this
year?
Bears

Stoy Hall (42:58):
are one, Falcons are eight.
I have no idea where the Broncosare.
They're in the middle.
They had to be in the middle ofthis.

Cole Ingle (43:03):
It's Seattle gets the what, fifth pick?
Yeah, fifth or sixth pick.

Stoy Hall (43:06):
Oh yeah.
So that's where Bronco be.
So top

Cole Ingle (43:09):
eight, they lost two three of the worst teams in the
NFL this year.
Those are their losses now.
You've gone through threedifferent quarterbacks.
Not one of the losses was to thebears the first game of the year
in I monsoon.

Stoy Hall (43:22):
So fine.
You still lost to the Broncos inthe purdy's

Cole Ingle (43:25):
still undefeated.
You lost to the Falcon Big cockBrock rocking it.

Stoy Hall (43:29):
Just rocking it.

Cole Ingle (43:31):
Oh, that was I just that they're crazy.
Unbelievable.
Sta to me that, somehow happenedto the

Stoy Hall (43:37):
team that is looking to win the Super Bowl.
Just nutty.
So this is the first time in NFLplayoff history.
A team has a plus five inturnover margin and lost.
Yeah.
Game.
I couldn't even fathom havingfive turnovers in losing of
okay.

(43:58):
Actually plus five in theturnover department.

Cole Ingle (44:00):
The Turners didn't turn the

Stoy Hall (44:01):
ball over and you lost, you were up and you lose.

Cole Ingle (44:07):
So yeah, that's on everybody that's on name'em, but
like the offensive coordinatorand the quarterback coach got
fired.
So ultimately that's who it'son.
Whether we say so or not, that'swho

Stoy Hall (44:17):
it's on.
There's a scapegoat coming.
Yeah.
And that was it.
Speaking of Big Cock Brown hesays, and I don't know if this
is true or this is just one ofthose little fake reports, but
I've been called that for years.
My high school gym teacher gaveme that nickname first.
Also awkward.

Cole Ingle (44:38):
Ah, I mean I thought so.
But it's just one of thosethings, you have another
situation.

Stoy Hall (44:43):
Oh, that's awesome.
Back to the charges game.

Cole Ingle (44:47):
I don't also, not sure if this is a real bet.

Stoy Hall (44:51):
It's been apparently fan dk also tweeted it.
Verified.
So maybe,

Cole Ingle (44:57):
but I mean at this point, what are you doing?
So somebody bet allegedly 1.4million to win$11,200.
Like first of all, if you have1.4 million, why do you need
$11,200?
Why are you playing for 11,000?
And if you're betting one, 4.4million, it probably doesn't
matter.
Correct.
Don't, feel bad for this personat all.

Stoy Hall (45:16):
At all.
But

Cole Ingle (45:17):
what are you doing?
You're an idiot.
So go put a, you actuallydeserve to lose.

Stoy Hall (45:21):
Go put$11,200 on the Jags to come back.
Do something that's worth thedamn.
Oh, this breakdown clip.
I wonder if just, to listen,it's a little long.
It is long and you'd have tolisten.
But go to our YouTube, ourTwitter Our Twitter tube and,

(45:47):
watches.
It just explains what happens onthe last big run here.
Yeah.
By the Jags on fourth down inexplaining that they've just
been attacking us.
They Samuel.
So yeah, I wanted to bring thisup a a little bit.
Mainly cuz we watched theCowboys game, right?
There's one corner that I thinkthe Niners are gonna do this
too.

(46:08):
And that sticks because he wassprinting away from contact.
that first play, I have zeroidea of what was going on.
Yeah.
That's gonna be an issue.
That's gonna be something towatch for those just tuning into
the Cowboys Niners game.
Yeah.
Which should be everybody.
This one was crazy This is justan insane, just fighting a

(46:34):
place, being able to have anopportunity and things happen.
So Dean Marlow, which was on theFalcons went from being on the
receiving end of a 60 yardtouchdown.
I don't know if you guys knewthis.
Hell, Mary from PJ Walker fromPJ Walker to DJ Moore to getting
an interception in, the playoffsand starting for the bills.
A crazy, alternative events

Cole Ingle (46:56):
there.
Yeah.
Again, you got Purdy in theright place, right time in San
Francisco.
Obviously injured players comingin and you gotta be ready when
your number's called and eachsituation's gonna fit
differently.
Every coordinator's gonna have adifferent use for a guy on
either side of the ball.
Just taking advantage of anopportunity.

Stoy Hall (47:17):
Absolutely.
So you said to watch the ref inthis one, right?
Which one?
Which ref?

Cole Ingle (47:23):
I believe it's the ref standing over by the third
down marker on the far side ofthe field.
All right.

Stoy Hall (47:37):
Come on, let it play.
Which should have been atouchdown, but he dropped it.
No, it's,

Cole Ingle (47:42):
yeah, but look at this.
So he's, he runs in I'll skip toit.
I, think that's who, I thinkthis guy, the reason I said
this, twofold, obviously he'sanimated, but I think he comes
from the 13 yard line.
Sprints.
Sprints in and smacking.
The ball is clearly layingaround.
Everyone knows it's, I care.
Nothing, obviously.
And this is an absolute, this isthe flute yet, this is the one

(48:06):
I'm like, oh, that's, he droppedthis ball.
This is a touchdown.
This is an, this is the Rothlaburger to what's his name in the
Super Bowl against thecardinals.
Holmes Holmes.
This is that type of throw.
Yeah.
And he drops the ball.
This is a literally half an inchwindow.
Purdy extends his play like fourdifferent times.

(48:28):
Boom, pump, fake dart, drop,

Stoy Hall (48:31):
drop.
But balls laid down here, comesaround It's incomplete.
It's on the

Cole Ingle (48:37):
Yeah, he's down for, Hey, you know her.

Stoy Hall (48:40):
You wanna come on in?
No, Wife showed up for all thosewho are listening and watching.
Nobody ever wants to come inhere.
No.
What are you scared of?
Come on in.
We're

Cole Ingle (48:50):
scary.
It's fine.

Stoy Hall (48:51):
Come say hi.
Soccer.
We can Do you want to The foodball?

Cole Ingle (48:56):
The food ball.
Go Argentina.
Hey,

Stoy Hall (49:00):
there we go.
Look at that.
Lincoln doesn't wanna leave.
He can stay if he wants.
I don't care.
Okay.
When we get soccer this springyou're, coming in.
All right.

(49:20):
All it's easy.
See?
Everyone heard that is on On therecord.
Now what's up?
Link?
You wanna come on camera?
You wanna see yourself pokingin?
It's gotta, it'll adjust, butyou can look at whatever camera

(49:41):
you want.
What do you need?
My phone.
Why is there so many cameras inhere?
It's too record,

Cole Ingle (49:50):
buddy.
Hey, your favorite football teamisn't the Falcons, is it?
It is.
Oh, so sorry.
Here you

Stoy Hall (49:57):
are buddy.
Look, ah, it's not live, so it'sgonna be a little delayed, but
there you are.
You going chill in here oryou're gonna go back and watch
your tv?
Go back.
Alright.

Cole Ingle (50:12):
Bye

Stoy Hall (50:13):
bye.
Bye bye.
here.
You want my.
You brought it to me,

Cole Ingle (50:23):
you going back to the, you going back to the
office.
Thank you.
Go do some work.
Get outta here.

Stoy Hall (50:33):
Yeah, so overall great.
Yeah.
Can't really play that one.
Oh, Jesus.
Bless America.
It's just a weekly occurrence.
Oh no, they deleted

Cole Ingle (50:46):
it.
Yeah.
NFL didn't like that.
They were getting made fun ofanother terrible roughing the
pass call on the Giants Vikingsgame.
Just horrific.
I feel like NFL just apologizedfor that.
And here's the big play of theof the playoffs so far,
honestly.
Which oddly enough, I didn'trealize that this came, I knew

(51:08):
it was early in the fourth.
I didn't realize it was there's12 minutes ago on this football
game when this

Stoy Hall (51:14):
happens.
Score.

Cole Ingle (51:15):
Yeah.
I mean there's not again, whythis game should have gone over.
It was at 41 with 11 minutesleft in the game and there
wasn't another point scored.

Stoy Hall (51:27):
So yeah, this, he wasn't

Cole Ingle (51:30):
close.
No.
They did miss a ball in the backhere.
A pretty egregious one.
I

Stoy Hall (51:35):
thought they just let it go cuz it is what it

Cole Ingle (51:37):
was.
Yeah.
But he's tackling him if hedoesn't get pushed in the back
right there.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (51:41):
But so I, re I've watched this 15 times.
I'm not sure how he got thatclose.
How

Cole Ingle (51:47):
what you, how Because he's swerved the wrong

Stoy Hall (51:50):
way.
I know, but like your team.
No, what?
Let him go.
Do something.
They could have turned around

Cole Ingle (51:56):
and blocked out.
Now watch right here where he tothe middle so he weaves to the
middle.
Yeah.
And like those guys didn't knowwhere the, where Andrews was.
He was finally clapping.
That's right.
But so Hubbard I think is whoreturned it?
He reached like either 18 or 19miles an hour as a defensive
lineman.
Impressive.
Andrews went fastest of theyear.
20.4 I think, or 20.6 to catchhim and catches him.

(52:22):
If he doesn't get pushed rightthere by 51.
That's a flag at the 15 yardline.
That's first down from the 25,17 17

Stoy Hall (52:30):
Bengals.
They weren't gonna call that.
They just weren't gonna callthat.
That's a block in the back.
I just don't understand.
We are taught head on

Cole Ingle (52:35):
a, that's a block in the back.
You can't even tell me that'snot a block in the back.
No, I can't.
Do you think he gets tackled ifhe doesn't get pushed in the
back by 51?

Stoy Hall (52:44):
Yeah, he gets tackled for sure.
It's never's a game changingplay one.
I agree.
Two shouldn't have been anon-issue cuz there's three
dudes.
But it wasn't a non-issue.
No, it was an issue and it was a

Cole Ingle (52:55):
block back.
Is this you gotta make thatcall.
You can't ignore the callbecause he should have not been
tackled.
I mean we had Kirk cousinsgetting roughing, the passer
calls for getting laid down on abed of Charmin.
Yeah.
That, that's gotta be called.
It's just bad.
There wasn't enough outrageabout that not being called in

(53:15):
my.
I agree.
If I was a Ravens fan, I'd havebeen uber pissed if that wasn't
called.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (53:23):
So here it's, yeah.
So the, tweet from NextGen statsthat absolutely

Cole Ingle (53:31):
blew up, which NextGen stats, correct me if I'm
wrong, like this is like they,they are in congruence with the
nfl Yeah.
Yep.
To

Stoy Hall (53:38):
provide

Cole Ingle (53:39):
data, next for the games next.
They're the ones that swoop in.
Like they probably have speed,the speed thing you were talking
about all the time.
All technology.
Yeah.
This is next gen stats, just asa little

Stoy Hall (53:50):
background.
So they then go as said,according to the chip in the
football.
Okay.
I just wanna repeat that.
According to the chip in thefootball, the closest the ball
got to the end zone was 0.6yards from the goal line.
There's a chip in the footballsince when.

Cole Ingle (54:08):
And

Stoy Hall (54:08):
we've all been saying this forever.

Cole Ingle (54:12):
And the chip in the football lines up with, so like
our theory

Stoy Hall (54:19):
was, I hadn't even, they didn't even see the
freaking whatever.
No, I didn't have it switched.
Oh, gotcha.

Cole Ingle (54:25):
To the camera, the chip in the football.
Like it would be, so there wouldbe something on the goal line
that would sense the chip in thefootball according that's our
conversation.
How else would it's 0.6 away.
But Is there not one of theseeverywhere items all the way up
and down the field?
Meaning we should never have tomeasure first, down.

Stoy Hall (54:45):
You mean the first down sticks That could have it
cuz they're lined up across

Cole Ingle (54:48):
the field, the ones that they don't use to measure
anything anymore.
And when they do that arecompletely inaccurate.
Pence, far as the spots go andthat teams just rush up and snap
the ball whether they're yardshort or yard after, or that
caused really bad delay of gamesbecause the refs don't know
which side of the sticks to spotthe ball.
Yeah, that one.
That one.
Oh, okay.

(55:09):
So that's my problem is likethere's a chip in the football.
If this is a thing and there isa chip, which why would they
tweet it if it wasn't true?
And how do they get theinformation?
If it's not then either NexGenstats is screwing with us.
Because you can clearly see thatthis ball's short.
This is not, something we neededto chip for.

(55:32):
If it was 0.1 from the end zone.
Okay.
Like in the Michigan who they,what was the Michigan TCU game?
Yeah.
The whole butt thing.
Like, all right, fine.
Like now tell me how far it wasaway.
But I don't understand in thefootball, did the chip sense the
block in the back or no?

(55:53):
No in inaccurate data.
Okay, gotcha.
Accurate data.
So yeah, the chip in thefootball I

Stoy Hall (56:01):
just, but we it's not in here, but I wanna get to part
of what we were talking abouttoo is idiot review stuff.
Okay.
Love the shit outta that.
Yeah, let's continue doing thatagain, August always, from now
on the chip in that please.
So to

Cole Ingle (56:17):
me it, so we had some challenges, but it also
eliminated challenges.
Yes.
So my problem overall though iswhen that comes down to the
headpiece within a call or toexpedite the game, you are

(56:40):
saving these teams from havingto challenge when they're o when
they're overturning right.
Themselves.
So I have a little issue withlike just fairness or equality
of, calling because if I do endup having to challenge and you
should it was obvious that youshould have, yeah.

(57:01):
Why should I be penalized whenthe other team didn't have to
challenge two different timesthat you screwed up calls and
got, now we want, ultimatelywant'em to get it right.
But I can see that's my problem.
There's, still inconsistencywith that.
And ultimately the biggerinconsistency and probably the
bigger problem I have is thatwhat can and can't be correct or

(57:23):
isn't, and isn't correct.
Overruled.
Or Hey, dumb ass, the KirkCousins thing can't be
overruled.
Which from a standpoint, theblocking back, all those
roughing, the passer thosethings they should be, that are
very obvious, right?
Should be overruled.
Or ruled depending if theyweren't ruled correctly.

(57:45):
But I don't know if that's a, asfans, I don't know if that's
what we want either.
If I, so if I'm a Bengals fanI'll take the other side of this
conversation, right?
If I'm a Bengals fan, I'm like,you don't know if he would've
been tackled, right?
And I'm like, yeah.
He might have high stepped outof it or what but it looked like
he was running outta gas.
Andrews was gaining speed.
He got blocked in the back.

(58:06):
Ultimately the flag's gotta bethrown.
I don't know about that.
I don't, it goes back to thewhole pa when we had past
interference, that was adisaster.
It was awful.
It was so bad.
Now we don't always agree withpast interference calls.
Obvious.
They're not obvious.
Like most of the time they'repretty discretionary.
We're also not

Stoy Hall (58:23):
talking about it as, as much like they're,
reasonable.
They're within this like box ofreason.
We can see it one way oranother.
They miss a couple of fire.
This, roughing the passer thingis, oh, it's outta control.
Absolutely.
Outta it's egal.
And I thought it would'vestopped in the playoffs.
I really did.
I thought they would've let'emhit him a little harder.
Oh, roughing.
Sorry.
My bad.

(58:44):
My bad.
Yeah, you got my chin hair.
What would you, but I let youdown easy.
Yeah, that's fine.
I didn't

Cole Ingle (58:50):
put all my weight on it.
There's that.
But yeah, I just overall theflow of the game, it helps so
much and

Stoy Hall (59:00):
I'm enjoying it.
And there's a chip

Cole Ingle (59:01):
in the foot, oh gosh, I forgot about this, but I
lo so I've been waiting to talkabout this because I am gonna
take opposite view of everyonethat in the national media, this
is not Kurt Cousin's fault.
No, it's a play call.
No, This is a, this is on TJHawkinson.

Stoy Hall (59:18):
You can do that too, but I still don't also like his
options either.

Cole Ingle (59:23):
If TJ Hawkins's route, let's look it to it.
Let's just, let's look.
No Stop, If TJ Hawkins's routeis an option route, which means
I am giving you discretionarymovement to go, to, go in to
read the field, read thecoverage, and read your

(59:44):
defender, and then you get to goin, out, up, down that's what
the, this is whatever, whateverplay call y option or whatever
they want to call their tightend, which is what TJ Hokinson
is.
I think.
Now, I don't know if this is theplay call or not and, maybe it's

(01:00:05):
not.
Maybe they're clearing out onthe bottom side, which they
definitely are with thatreceiver and they did want him
to run.
Maybe his call is always an outroute.
If that's the case, I dislikethe call.
If it is an option route, thisis a first down.
TJ Hawkinson goes to the left.
Goes left.
Yeah.
And that is what's not on thecousins.

(01:00:27):
Cousins obviously threw the out

Stoy Hall (01:00:30):
But see, so that's where I'm on the, and I don't
know

Cole Ingle (01:00:32):
the option, but if you think that your best matchup
with that, which TJ Hawkinsonwas in this game.
Yeah, absolutely.
He destroyed the giants.
He did.
So if you see, because right nowwe're, paused at a great moment.
Oh.
Basically the top side you'vegot double covered on, deep and

(01:00:54):
so you're going to be workingfront side, which would be the
right side as we, we look at it.
They don't have any timeoutsplay clocks running down.
You've got one on, you've gottwo on one.
You've got the safety andcorner, and so the only
one-on-one matchup you have,because the middle linebacker or

(01:01:16):
safety, it looks like a safetyis gonna be taking davan cook
outta the backfield.
Your one-on-one matchup is TJHokinson.
Everybody else.
Unless you wanna take a shot atthe top of the screen.
I just is.
I don't like

Stoy Hall (01:01:37):
the route cover bows.

Cole Ingle (01:01:38):
No I

Stoy Hall (01:01:39):
don't disagree.
Like I, I get what you're sayinghere and a hundred, you're not,
you're a hundred percent.

Cole Ingle (01:01:44):
100%.
If he, a hundred percent.
If he runs an angle route there,that's a first out.
Correct.
Or does, by the way, does, andnobody says anything when Kurt
Cousins throws that ball sixyards and he goes for 14.
Correct.
Correct.
That, that's all I'm saying.

Stoy Hall (01:01:57):
Let's, run it.
Let's, just run it and look atthis, if that's an option route.
He didn't do any move by theway.
It was awful.
Like it just looked tired.
So that's

Cole Ingle (01:02:05):
sloppy.
My, that became my question isthat now Pass Rush

Stoy Hall (01:02:08):
definitely helped in this situation.

Cole Ingle (01:02:10):
But the other option is, yeah, but

Stoy Hall (01:02:12):
right there he has this, is this on, this is the
only one.
That's the other one's I thinkJefferson, he was just clearing
out for this, that he has twooptions.
This isn't really an option thatto me, there's just not enough

Cole Ingle (01:02:27):
options.
Yeah, but you did what you'resupposed to do.
You need to get a first downhere, fourth and eight.
If I, and here's the problem.
I don't know the route.
I don't know what was called.
I'm going to now

Stoy Hall (01:02:38):
looking at this though.
I don't think so.
I don't think he had an optionto go in because you had,
because you have, that did comeback.
It would've blinded

Cole Ingle (01:02:46):
it.
And I, and so if that's thecase, That's the, that's a dig
throw all the way you, can, it'sfart down.
You have to, Yep.
As soon as they, the safety'sclear and don't let anything go
deep, which is your first check.
Just make sure that nobody burnlike this.
Clearly they're down.
Nobody gets burned.
Boom.
17.
God he's looking there the wholeway.

(01:03:07):
Yeah.
He just stared it down, wasn'the?
That's why I thought it was anoption route because of the
stare down.
I thought he was waiting to knowwhat, option he chose and was
just going to that matchupbecause he liked it the most.
You know what I mean?
He was,

Stoy Hall (01:03:22):
but it doesn't make sense with having a backside
dig.
That was open, by the way.

Cole Ingle (01:03:26):
I don't disagree.
I'm just saying that I think hechose, he did.
He chose he chose to go overthere pre-snap.
This is my, I've gotten,

Stoy Hall (01:03:35):
he looked right

Cole Ingle (01:03:35):
this whole time.
But my thought was that he wasstaring it down because it was
an option route, meaning that hedidn't know which side he was
gonna be on, so he had to stareit down in order to know what
throw he was gonna make.
Yeah.
That could be

Stoy Hall (01:03:50):
completely wrong.
He's looking at this safety inhim the whole time.
He never looked like, oh, yeah.
Oh, it wasn't even anopportunity.
Nope.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Poor execution on that.
No doubt.
This one is Is, fun.
Is, something.
Okay.
J Dobbins had a lot to say Afterthe RAVs loss, if we would've

(01:04:12):
had Lamar, we would've.
He should have never been inthat situation talking about
Huntley diving over and then heasked, why am I not out there?
He had 12 carries.
I can't really fault him for anyof those conversations.
From a professional standpoint.
Probably don't say those.

Cole Ingle (01:04:31):
Harbaugh also shit on Huntley who had a good game.
He did.
I don't understand.
Like he was just Yeah.
It's a bad look for theorganization about he made

Stoy Hall (01:04:40):
a mistake.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But Right.
He was trying to win a footballgame.

Cole Ingle (01:04:43):
Yeah.
And he

Stoy Hall (01:04:44):
kept you in a game.
Can't fault.
He kept in the game that Yeah.
And no, you can't say if he hadLamar.
Cause we don't know how hishealth is clearly, no doubt.
Not good enough to play.
No doubt.
So I, they were throwing upstats about the Bucks offense
for the season.
And I know it was bad becauseI'm in the south.
South's bad.

(01:05:04):
But there was two that reallyjust really made me just lose my
mind and realized that no one inthe South should have been in
the playoffs.
One Buccaneers won the NFCSouth.
They had only scored over 24points twice, all season twice.
Pretty sure all the other threeteams have done that multiple

(01:05:25):
times.
I know one for a fact, by theway.

Cole Ingle (01:05:28):
That's why once we got to 24, I just, I, we were
going, we were, I said, we needone more score.
And, it's good.
Yeah.
Cuz they don't, and even afterthat I worried, but once we got
past 24, I was like, we're it'sover.
Yeah.
And

Stoy Hall (01:05:41):
then this.
They had 59 attempts of thirdand 10 on the season.
They were three of 59 the lowestby any team.
This is a Brady LED team, by theway.
Lowest by any team since 1980.

Cole Ingle (01:05:58):
This is a team with Cameron Brady, Kate Otten, Micah
Evans, Mike Evans Jones.
Julio Jones.
Which I mean and you've gotGodwin too.
Godwin got weapons like as faras third and 10 in the N F L I.
I don't know what the stat is.
Mike get, like the chiefs leadthe N F L in this stat.

(01:06:20):
They're, the worst in third andshort which is funny, but
probably the best.
They're the best in this.
And I wanna say they're in theforties.
It's absurd.
It's absurd how bad the chiefsare in third and short, but it's
also absurd how great they arein like third, and it's either
eight plus or 10 plus and it's46% or 43.
Like something just

Stoy Hall (01:06:41):
I would love to know what the average is.
Average has gotta be around the25.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (01:06:44):
I, I'd assume at best.
Yeah.
This is 20.
They're, or I don't think thatthere was a close second.
I saw that and

Stoy Hall (01:06:51):
I'm like, there, there's no way they're winning
this.
Yeah.
There are no way winning this Ohman, you gotta

Cole Ingle (01:07:00):
love the internet.
So this is Brett Mayer kicking afield.
just kicking a field.
Go.
Oh wait.
Wrong sport

Stoy Hall (01:07:08):
Wrong sport.

Cole Ingle (01:07:09):
Ah, it's all good.
For those that can't see, that'sa golfer.
Shanking the ball into thewater.
For my Falcons fans, this

Stoy Hall (01:07:16):
is for you out there.
Julio Jones, not a touchdown.
Julio Jones catching touchdownsa touchdown.
Tom Brady, not Adown in theplayoffs against, to Dan Quinn
and Dante Fowler is just toomuch to process.
That's

Cole Ingle (01:07:27):
just a lot.
That goes back to the first onewith the defensive back.
Just guys moving around all thetime.
A lot catching I don't

Stoy Hall (01:07:36):
know who created this.

Cole Ingle (01:07:38):
I don't.
That's ave is this legit?
That's a verified account.
Now legitimacy, I cannot rightdictate.
But according to this, is JerryJones's authenticated account.
Now I don't know exactly howthat all of that works, but

Stoy Hall (01:07:55):
if you can kick and are currently in the stadium
right now, come on down to thefield.
We got a jersey for you.

Cole Ingle (01:08:01):
Now here's the problem.
I can see Cherry Jones tweetingthat.
Oh absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I don't again, I don't knowAbsolutely, but oh

Stoy Hall (01:08:14):
and oh, so I don't know how many times in his
career.
Where's Michelle when we needher, right?
This is soccer.
This is soccer.
Actually.
It's a red flag.
It's a red card by the way.
Cuz it's from behind.
Yeah.
And no, didn't

Cole Ingle (01:08:29):
touch the ball.
No, no play on the ballwhatsoever.
This is embarrassing.
Yeah.
He goes by, he goes, Mack Joneson great tackle.
By who?
Dude Mack.

Stoy Hall (01:08:37):
What are you, Mac

Cole Ingle (01:08:38):
Jones?
Who?
Yeah.
It must be, it's the Patriot wayaway.
I got him.

Stoy Hall (01:08:43):
Oh, but what are you doing?

Cole Ingle (01:08:46):
Yeah just goes in and he throws the, like this,
there is one thing he is tryingto do here.
There's you can towards his box,no other way spin can find.

Stoy Hall (01:08:57):
No, Fine.
No, But this is a final offense.
You can't do this.

Cole Ingle (01:09:02):
You can't just kick somebody's leg out.

Stoy Hall (01:09:04):
No.
No, I can't do it.
Blocking.
I can't do it.
T yeah.
Just

Cole Ingle (01:09:08):
Tom Brady can also, this was on the play that
ultimately ended up not being afumble, I believe.
Correct.
Correct.
But they got pen, so they gotincomplete pass.
But first down, because they gotpenalized from the spot of the
foul.
It was very confusing becausetwo different instances last

(01:09:29):
night ABC went to commercial.
One was this play, the other onewas the only p a t Yeah.
That Mara made.
They went to commercial and wedidn't get to see it.
Yeah.
Twitter was blowing up aboutthat.
I thought that was funny.
ABC production last night wasquestionable at best yet better
than the Tony Dungy Al Michaelsannouncing this weekend in the,

(01:09:53):
I believe it was the Jags JagsChargers game.
I tried not to pay attention.
They had gone to sleep prettymuch completely.
And then as the game gotexciting I don't say too much
about announcers overall, butthey were boring.
And I like both of those guys.
Tony Dungy is just notexcitable.

(01:10:15):
No.
Because that's his demeanor.
Correct.
And then Al Michaels, I think isjust old enough now, and he had
gone to sleep.
They're like, they forgot thatthe, oh wait, this game was 27,
nothing.
And now we're scoring gamewinning touchdowns.
And it was like, and there hegoes for the touchdown, and all
that.
And the Jaguars take the lead.
It's wait, they were down 27 tonothing.

(01:10:36):
Where's it was bad.
There's people calling him outall night on, Twitter for that

Stoy Hall (01:10:40):
sounds They should nice little quote from Peyton
here.
And we'll, play the video afterI

Cole Ingle (01:10:48):
I just disagree with this quote.
And I, like Peyton, meaning Ilike watching Manning cast.
I, think this is a

Stoy Hall (01:10:54):
bullshit I have something to say about that.
Cause I think so too.
But Peyton says, I don't know ifI ever made a halftime
adjustment in my entire 18 yearcareer.
I think that's the biggest mythin football.
The halftime adjustments.
You go in, you use the,restroom, you eat a couple
oranges, and then a head coachsays, all right, let's go now.
I want to speak on behalf of,and we're just gonna let this

(01:11:18):
play and you guys can hear it,right?
Because.
We can't, cuz I don't know howto do that, but maybe we'll play
it.
Oh, I had it.
There it goes.
From a defensive perspective,it's a complete and other
bullshit lie, we makeadjustments all the time.
We have to now from an, from mypoint of view, from an offense,

(01:11:40):
from a, painting manning pointof view he's making adjustments
all the time.
Correct.
So I can see it from thatperspective, but he might not
make adjustments, but thecoaches are Right.
There's no way around

Cole Ingle (01:11:53):
that.
And, someone he has to realize,and here's where it's coming
from, it's coming from paintmanning, like he said, who is
he's making adjustments, threeto four adjustments per play.
Play.
Yes.
And so in his mind, no, there'snot any specific halftime
adjustments because he's thehead coach, the offensive

(01:12:14):
coordinator, the quarterback inevery the position.
Yeah.
The eyes of the offense fromevery position, every play is
how his mind works, which islike very few, if any ever in
the NFL history or guys thatwill come after him for that
matter.
But the statement is egregiousin that you are going to be
making adjustments all game, butspecifically at halftime, you're

(01:12:37):
going to make adjustments fromthey're attacking us this way.
We either need to continue doingsomething, we game planned and
it was exactly what we expected.
This is what we're seeing onthese downs.
This is what we're seeing onthese downs.
These are the type of personnelplay calls, et cetera, that we
can be in there.
Now, some coaches are betterthan others.

(01:12:58):
Some players are better thanothers.
Some games are better thanothers.
But the fact that like thosethings wouldn't be talked about
or anything like that, it'sjust, it's utter nonsense.
It is.

Stoy Hall (01:13:09):
Now, for him, again, he made adjustments three or
four times a play, right?
Fine.
In football, you makeadjustments.
Yes, you make adjustments allthe time, but halftime's a time
where the, there's no footballbeing played, right?
It's time you can get togetherand made said adjustments,

Cole Ingle (01:13:27):
right?
If a team has completely, likespecifically offensively, you
can probably speak a little bitbetter defensively.
But if a team has come out ineither a blitz package, a
certain front, or a certaincoverage that we didn't prepare
for or prepared for very little,we are completely changing the
offensive attack, whether it bepersonnel style, meaning one

(01:13:50):
running backs, two runningbacks, three receivers, four
receivers based on that.
And those are happening withinplays, yes, during a half or
whatever, but at halftime, likewe're completely scrapping a
certain section of the playbookbecause of those things.
And tho those things happensmall or large every game.

(01:14:13):
And I have to assume same thing,I, same, it's same

Stoy Hall (01:14:16):
exact thing on defensive side of the ball.
Basically we're trying to takesomething away from you so you
can, so we know your playbookgets shrunk, right?
And you guys are trying toattack us.
So that way your playbook'sopened and now we are going,
this is a guessing game.
I have no clue what's comingnext.

Cole Ingle (01:14:31):
But you can get a pretty good idea by halftime.
You absolutely can of what'sgoing on.
Okay, this is what we struggledwith, this is what we do.
Even if you have a great halfwhere you're shutting a team
out, okay, kind like up 27 tonothing, these are the
adjustments that team's gonnamake.
What can we do to combat that ifwe see it also, right?
If we are dominating, ain'tbroke, don't fix it.

(01:14:53):
Sometimes you can overthink.
Sometimes you can, sometimes youshouldn't make halftime
adjustments, then you do.
And maybe that's what happenedto the Chargers.
I hard to tell like within theflow of the game type of thing.
Probably a little bit of both.
Again, always.
But at the, end of the day, it'sone of those things where the
fact that it, wouldn't be talkedabout is I guess maybe Peyton

(01:15:15):
didn't like to talk about it andhe would've have had some type
of, there's just no waydictation.
There's no way, but there's noway the other position coaches
aren't talking to their Oh yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:15:24):
And there's also no way he hasn't told a receiver
running back or lineman you needto, I saw this, you do this.

Cole Ingle (01:15:31):
That's, but again, he's doing that.
Every place.
So it's hard to get into thatmindset too.
So I, and I think that's whereit's coming from.
I didn't hear, I didn't seethat.
What was Eli's reaction to that?
Did you see it here?
Huh?
Okay.
So yeah.
No, I didn't.
And it wasn't long

Stoy Hall (01:15:47):
enough.
Like I, and I think they justcut his so i, it didn't, and I,
don't watch Manny cats switch.
Apparently I need to.
No, it's fun.
I just haven't, yeah.

Cole Ingle (01:15:57):
I try to watch whatever the casts are that
aren't whoever's announced inthe game.
I watch the McAfee feeds forcollege football.
Announcers are awful.
Yeah.
So awful.
But it's just fun cuz they watchthe game like we do, but in
whatever their mindset is.
So that's what's enjoyable aboutthose.
There we are.

Stoy Hall (01:16:16):
There's, our Twitter feed for the week.
Yep.

Cole Ingle (01:16:19):
Ready to get into these games.
I am.
Once I, you got the Saturdaynight football or what do you
got?

Stoy Hall (01:16:25):
I don't know what to play.
Eh, screw up all.
We need more sounds.
Can we do that season whatevernumber we're going into?
Yeah, sure.
So we roll into you know what?
No, Before we get into that, wehave one thing we have not
talked about that we were goingto, it's having a Monday night
football playoff game.

(01:16:46):
Oh yes.
And how shitty and stupid thatis.
You go three and three, whywould you not.
Because now you've got a wet ofbeyond well rested Niners team
who didn't need to be rested cuzthey dominated.
They have two days, two extradays on your cowboys.
Yeah.
And yes, it might because ofyour cowboys fine, whatever.
But it's bullshit that we'replaying on Monday night to turn

(01:17:07):
around and have them play onSaturday.
No, they play Sunday or Sunday.

Cole Ingle (01:17:11):
Early game.
Sorry.
No, they're Sunday late.
Are they?
They're the latest gamepossible, but

Stoy Hall (01:17:15):
it's still Tuesday.
Oh no, It's because the Ninersplayed early Saturday.
Saturday.
That's what I meant.
Yeah, Give them the Sunday nightgame with a Monday

Cole Ingle (01:17:21):
night game.
Then I'm fine.
Fine.
Ultimately, yes.
But the biggest problem is youdon't know who's, I mean as the
nfl you don't know who those,who's going to win those games.
So you can't get it.
You can't get it you never willbe up to outside of one day.
Why do why do

Stoy Hall (01:17:38):
it?
Why not go in three three?
What is, why

Cole Ingle (01:17:40):
would you do that?
Yeah.
Because right now, so yeah,Dallas and even if Dallas played
on Sunday, like I, again, noargument there.
Saturday games, the gameplaying, like whatever.
You can't have a Monday nightgame in the playoffs.
No.
Parsons is banged up and cursemaybe hurt.
He, I mean he went out of thegame.
That's, two of Dallas's bestdefenders they have who have two

(01:18:01):
less days than any 49ersdefender in order to recover and
are going to be very huge keysin being able to even slow down
that attack from,

Stoy Hall (01:18:12):
San Francisco.
No, sure.
Some people will say fine, theyalso had to, they're able to
watch their game fully and gameplan better.
They're also prepping for a gamethere's only so much that you're
gonna watch that Niners

Cole Ingle (01:18:26):
game and be like, the players aren't getting the
benefit there.
And that's ultimately who'sbeing, who's playing the game.
Ultimately.
So yeah, they're scouting, butlike they're not scouting.
They'll play the 49ers beforethey scout to play the Bucks.
I'll guarantee'em you that It's,so

Stoy Hall (01:18:41):
dumb.
And I really hope they changethat.
Cause it, it's,

Cole Ingle (01:18:43):
and also it just makes sense to have three games
each day.
Yeah.
Why would you go 2, 3, 1 Wild orWe weekend hit three.
So

Stoy Hall (01:18:50):
dumb.
But we had to, we did have tospeak address.
All right.
So we open up with Jags andI'll, verify the numbers cuz I
did this earlier today,

Cole Ingle (01:18:59):
but do you have eight and a half?
52 and a half?
Correct.
Yep.
I checked after lunch we cancheck again if we'd like.
But,

Stoy Hall (01:19:07):
anyways let's, talk through that one.
So we got Jags chiefs, chiefseight and a half, 52 and a half
Plant home.
I don't have the weather pulledup yet.
I have four and a half.

Cole Ingle (01:19:22):
Wow.
Only one game has moved and itis moving.

Stoy Hall (01:19:28):
Good.
I can't wait to get to it.
Yeah.
So playing on Saturday.
Interesting.
Supposed to snow starting atnoon.
Okay.
Okay.
All the way through the night.
So this can be snowy game.
Yeah.
Rain and snow, technically 38degrees.
Rain snow mix, six mile an hourwinds.

(01:19:48):
But it's that rain snow.
Who does that benefit in youropinion?

Cole Ingle (01:19:55):
Both of these teams are very similar.
You have a young Jacksonvilleteam can be explosive on defense
in different areas, can be onexplosive, on offensive, in dif
in different areas and can lookbad at times on both sides.
And you have Kansas City who Iwould say the exact same thing

(01:20:16):
about, but they have Mahomes,but they have Andy Reid, but
they have the experience andthey're

Stoy Hall (01:20:24):
playing at home in that

Cole Ingle (01:20:25):
stadium, which and Jacksonville's coming to cold
weather which it was 45 inJacksonville.
Yeah.
But like the, temperature isn'tgoing to

Stoy Hall (01:20:34):
be the issue.
It's the rain and snow thatthey're not used to rain fine.

Cole Ingle (01:20:39):
But even the snow, like Kansas City doesn't wanna
play in the snow either.
They wanna play fast.
That's true.
You're not wrong.
I, think that Kansas shittyKansas City shitty is a shitty
Wow.
Kansas shitty weather.
Hot take.
That's some Kansas shittyweather.
I'm, my father-in-law will be atthe game, so he'll get to endure
that.
But eight and a half is thenumber 52 and a half overall.

(01:21:04):
And I that's Kansas City hasplayed a lot of close games this
year.
Jacksonville's find a way tobattle, a battle.
I, I just don't see I don't seeone team pulling away either
way.
I think this is gonna be acompetitive game.
How'd you see?

(01:21:27):
Kansas City, I think they find away to win the game.
Being at home, having Mahomes.
But I don't think Jacksonville'sgoing without a fight.
And I don't think eight and ahalf.
I don't think Kansas City cancover that.
That's

Stoy Hall (01:21:44):
a lot of points.
They're coming off a buy andyes, they're well rested in all
that, but that usually means youcome out slower.
Which

Cole Ingle (01:21:52):
doesn't really, which has been that's been an
memo of Kansas City all year so,on top of that

Stoy Hall (01:21:59):
And no, the Jags aren't gonna throw, have five
turnovers.
That's not gonna happen again.
And so I agree with you.
I don't think the Chiefs can'tcover that.
That's, a lot of points to me.
52 and a half with that weather.
Now that one's more precariousto me.
It's not windy.

Cole Ingle (01:22:17):
It's, that's and that's my biggest thing.
Big deal.
I'm, I've got Kansas City to winthis game, Jacksonville to
cover, and I've got this over.
Oh, okay.
52 and a half.
That's been the last two, soDallas and Tampa was a half

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point under.
And there was one more Bengals,Ravens was one point under the
rest of, besides that they wereall very much over.
Correct.
And I would argue both the gamesthat went under had more chances
to go over than they did to stayunder.
There's a thing you weredefinitely sweating the under
more than you were the overfeltlike, like it should have hit in

(01:23:07):
all of them.
I just think both teams have theweapons to be able to expose the
other team's defense.
Again, weather could become afactor, but I, just don't the,
conditions don't sound that way.
I will take the over 52 and ahalf.

(01:23:28):
I see Kansas City winning thisgame somewhere in the realm of
about 31 or 34 to 27.
To 30, yeah.
Type of thing.
So I

Stoy Hall (01:23:39):
do agree.
You know what that means.
You do.
Everybody.
That's, one for one.
That's great.
Going into this

Cole Ingle (01:23:49):
fantastic biggest X factor for you in that game.

Stoy Hall (01:23:57):
Oh, McKinnon For the Chiefs.
For the Chiefs.
He's been getting open or whythey've been scheming for him.
He's really the only otheroutlet that can take off.
The pressure from Kelsey.
As long as it's not a slipperytrack and he can get going, I he
gets going.
Those things.

(01:24:17):
It, they're just gonna keepscoring.
They're not gonna stop.
So he's gonna be my XFactor.
Okay.

Cole Ingle (01:24:26):
I think I'm gonna go with at n.
Okay.
I think the Jaguars need to usehim like McKinnon.
Yep.
Get him the ball.
He's definitely explosive bothin pass and run.
I also think that depending onthe weather, I think how the

(01:24:50):
chiefs use Pacheco could, loomlarge because he's definitely
the most physical runner on thatteam and something sometimes I
think the chiefs completelymisuse him or don't use him when
they should be in the red zone.
So that could definitely loomlarge on whether they're kicking
field goals or scoringtouchdowns.
Yeah, I agree.
So yeah, I agree.

(01:25:11):
Saturday night and FC EastBattle that everyone anticipated
in the divisional round.
the New York Giants EaglesGross, the Gman traveling, the
Gman Billy to take on JalenHertz in the Eagles and Hertz
has not played in like a

Stoy Hall (01:25:32):
month.
Yeah.
That's, the biggest questionmark, right?
Is who, what Jaylen do we get?
Yeah.
And what Eagles team do we get?
Last time we saw him, theweather's not a factor on
Saturday.
It is on Sunday, but not,Saturday when they're playing.
Seven and a half in a divisionalgame.

(01:25:53):
That, that seems like a lot tome.
Yeah.
That, that's crazy.
Specifically seeming how thegman just played well.
Now they were in a dome, blah,blah, blah, fine.
Dumb grass, I don't care.
Yeah.
It's divisional game in theplayoffs Saturday night and it's
not like they need the extratime to scheme'em.

(01:26:17):
They know'em.
Yeah.
You're gonna know'em.
The Eagles will have somewrinkles cuz they had extra
little extra time, but you'regonna get what you're gonna get.
Yeah.
And to me it's hurts.
Can he, is he the MVP basicallyof the year?
How he played or do we get himkind of post-injury when he

(01:26:37):
played against the Bears?

Cole Ingle (01:26:39):
Yeah.
And I'm gonna go with Barclayjust because he needs the
touches.
If they don't kick the Giantsare ball.
I, will say if Barclay needs 25touches and that's passes.
Passes in runs.
And if he gets 25 and here'sthe, here's what I'll say.

(01:26:59):
I don't think they will get him25.
Touche.
They won't.
And so therefore I don't thinkthey will win the game.
I do think they'll cover theseven and a half divisional
game.
Yeah.
This is a game I don't knowabout the rust for Hertz or
anything like that.
Giants d familiarity.

(01:27:22):
This game feels like adivisional under to me, but it
feels like both offenses areultimately the better overall
units.
So maybe a first half under Iwould maybe look at, but I think
overall this game does end upgoing over as well.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:27:38):
I got it at 27 24.

Cole Ingle (01:27:39):
So I've got Philadelphia winning giants
covering and the over, which itlooks like that is another,

Stoy Hall (01:27:53):
at least these other games are a little closer.
Okay.

Cole Ingle (01:27:58):
The biggest movement that we've seen, is it in this,
is it?
No, the next game is actuallyBuffle Bills.
Bills Bengals, sorry, I've got'em in the wrong order on my
sheet here.
But Bill's Bengals has notmoved.
It is Cincinnati traveling toBuffalo in What?
I completely disagree withBuffalo being able to play this
as a home game.

(01:28:20):
If the Bengals were going tohave to flip a coin with
Baltimore, Buffalo should haveto flip a coin with Cincinnati.
They didn't play the game.
That basically determinedHomefield Advantage determined
this situation.
Yes.
And somehow Cincinnati was theonly one who didn't get a coin
flip out of the deal.
I, don't understand.
Doesn't make any damn sense.
We've said that since the timethat those, the rulings came

(01:28:43):
out.
So now here it is.
If Buffalo wins this game, theyhost the AFC Championship.
Which again, complete anotherbullshit, but hey, we don't make
the rules.
Somebody voted and they allvoted.
It was okay.
obviously a different scenariothat we hope to never see again
with the Yeah.
Hamlin issue, but we're talkingcomp competition committee

(01:29:08):
players association, likewhoever you need to look into
whatever the bullshit was that,that caused this.
Cuz basically Buffalo was theteam that far and away was given
the benefit of the doubt in allof these scenarios.
Now their record before all ofit happened, somewhat dictated

(01:29:28):
that.
But ultimately it wasn't a fairshake for all involved in a game
that if Cincinnati won thatwasn't played they, would be
hosting a home game.
now.
I think the Bengals might evenplay better on the road.
And the bills definitely didn'tplay great at home this last
weekend, so I, don't know thatmakes much difference one way or

(01:29:48):
the other.
But just wanted to get that outthere.
We got snow all day.
As far as my feeling on that.
Definitely supposed to be snowy.

Stoy Hall (01:29:59):
10 mile hour winds.
Not a lot of snow.
Quarter inch probably over thecourse of the game, which is

Cole Ingle (01:30:04):
minimal.
What teams used to playing in.
Yeah.
So crappy ish

Stoy Hall (01:30:08):
weather.
Both teams coming off a just ame game.
Yeah.
Whether it's going through themotion set up for this game, I
don't know.
But I'm, actually rolling withyour bills on this one.
The 15 win build team that nevergot to 15 wins.

(01:30:29):
Mainly cuz I, I just know thatwhat they're looking for is to
get back to play the Chiefs.
And I don't think that this isgonna stop them.
Now part of that is because theBengals all line is little
decimated.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's really the, that's abig picture of it.
And the bills are gonna attackthat.

(01:30:51):
Offensively.
I think both teams can score.
I don't think that'll, I don'tthink that's the game.
I think it comes down to.
I just believe that Burrow'sgonna be running for his life.
And unless Alan decides to turnthe ball over again in the red
zone which by the way, he's thebest at it.
Yeah.

(01:31:11):
The bills should be able to winthis

Cole Ingle (01:31:13):
one and put it away.
Yeah.
So we're gonna disagreecompletely.
You think what are you thinkingoverall that this game ends up
score wise?

Stoy Hall (01:31:24):
This, will be 27, 24.
I, think the Bengals will coverit's close to.
Do you think the Bengals cover?
It'll be close.

Cole Ingle (01:31:28):
Okay.
So you've got the over as wellthough.
Yes.
48 and a half is the numberthere.
Four and a half.
For the bills I've said for thelast three weeks that I thought
Cincinnati was the hottest teamin the AFC and that San
Francisco was the hottest teamin the nfc.
I'm going to continue to ridethat.
Even after Cincinnati didn'tlook the part necessarily, but

(01:31:50):
either did Buffalo in theiropening games.
So I expect things to getcleaned up there, whether
Cincinnati gets a littlehealthier or they just have more
experience now playing on theoffensive line.
Better idea of scheme.
Cincinnati was doing some goodthings scheme wise against
Buffalo in the start of thatgame that I really liked.
And I think they can throwagainst that secondary who still

(01:32:15):
dinged up.
Has some guys that are outobviously, and guys that were
out previous.
To Hamlin as well.
So I really like what I thinkCincinnati can do.
I do think Josh Allen the,turnovers catch up to him in
this one.
Whether it's one or two I justthink that eventually that's

(01:32:36):
gonna catch up.
And I've got Cincinnati one inthis one outright and moving to
play Kansas City to, for a rightto play in Super Bowl.
Cincinnati obviously is coveringand winning.
And then I also have this gamegoing over.
I see this as a, Cincinnati hasthe ball last type of game.

(01:33:01):
Like a 31 28 final.
Something in that, realm wherewe have a kick to win.

Stoy Hall (01:33:12):
Yeah, I agree.
For sure.
All right Sunday night.
Sunday night game.
So we're well rested

Cole Ingle (01:33:20):
nighters.
We're, both on the, over on thatone.
Okay.
I'm not completely the onlydifference there.
You still have the Bengalscovering.
So you just had the billswinning.
Correct.
Okay, so it's three.
So really only one difference sofar.
So far.
Yep.
And Dallas, San Francisco.
That game has moved all the wayto three.
Three.
It started at five or I saw itas high as five.

(01:33:43):
And yeah, it is currently onFanDuel.
Nothing else has changed on theover under four, still 46 and a
half really.
But that game is down to three.
Whoa.
Wowy, which I, if I was gonna itwas at, four and a half
yesterday afternoon even.

(01:34:05):
Actually maybe even thismorning.
And then I went to four and thento four and a half, or then to
four and a half.
Four to three.
And I saw as size five whenthings opened on a couple of
different sites, which Iwould've loved to get Dallas on
the spread at five would've beennice.
I do think that San Franciscofinds a way to win this game.

(01:34:30):
The big reasons that I see thisis San Francisco will have the
ability to dictate what theyallow Micah Parsons and where
they allow him to line up byformation and by their skillset
of being able to run both Deeboand McCaffrey.

(01:34:51):
And Purdy being a little bitelusive that it's not gonna be
the Parsons that we got to seeagainst Tampa, where we know
Brady's gonna be in one spot forthe most part.
And Parsons, no matter where helines up, is gonna have an idea.
we've got three different movingtargets now.
That's what neutralizes Parsonsthe best as far as when teams
have attacked him this year orgone away from him.

(01:35:14):
But they've done a lot ofrunning right at him that can
neutralize.
Like even if he makes sometackles, he's best in space.
And so Dallas's weakness is therunning game.
And if Michael Parsons can't beelectric in that form, Pollard
is their best player on offense.

(01:35:35):
I think the 49ers are going tohave a game plan to make sure
that they don't allow, and theyhaven't really all year allow
the running game to get going.
In that fashion.
They struggled against, whichthe Broncos is weird, but they
struggled against Mahomes.
They struggled against fields alittle bit and they struggled
against at that point would'veprobably wouldn't have been

(01:35:57):
Ritter, probably.
Mariota would've been Mariota.
So running, based quarterbacks.
Yeah.
Not that Dak isn't mobile, butD's not looking to run.
So if he can make a couplescrambles, don't, that's
definitely gonna make open up.
And San Francisco's definitelyshowed to be a really good

(01:36:19):
defense at times, but they'vedefinitely shown some holes in
their defense.
So if Dak can get comfortableand make plays down the field,
then that, that'll help Paul itout.
I just feel like San Francisco'sanswers to Dallas's best players
are better than Dallas's answersto San Francisco's best players.
Unfortunately, yeah.
I would really like to rideDallas on this.

(01:36:41):
Not saying they don't have achance to win.
They are playing a rookiequarterback who, if you can find
a way, Purdy will force things.
He'll extend plays and theyusually have enough weapons that
somebody's open and he's madethe throws.
Or Shannon Shanahan has put himin spots to be successful.
Not to say that Dallas hopefullycan't can find a way.

(01:37:04):
Quinn has done a great job thisyear with that defense the last
two years actually.
Would it surprise me?
No, but I just think overall for60 Minutes, San Francisco
somehow finds a way this gamebeing at home.
I don't think weather's gonna bean issue at all.
No.
58 degrees or something.
No.
This week.
So I just, I think SanFrancisco's the hottest team in

(01:37:28):
the nfc.
I think somehow they find a wayto win this game.
Was definitely on Dallas on thespread at four.
I think it's Dallas will find away to keep it close at three.
That's just push world, so I'lljust keep my picks the same that
Dallas is going to cover thespread.
San Francisco's gonna win thegame and I do think this game
goes over the 46 and a half outof just the big playability that

(01:37:54):
I think San Francisco's gonna.
Purdy extending plays, makes bigplays for San Francisco, and
then they really gouge people inthe running game.
And they have two guys who cango the distance at any time in
the backfield between Samuel andMcCaffrey on, big play
opportunities.

(01:38:14):
And if Diggs chooses to bepassive and not involved in the
tackling of 49ers, that couldget very ugly.
Yeah, I think ultimately SanFrancisco, I'll go 27, 24, 27,

(01:38:37):
20.
The three, I don't like thethree.
I would, I don't, I wouldn'tplay the three I would've played
the four and a half on theCowboys.
That's where, yeah, I see thatgame.

Stoy Hall (01:38:50):
This one comes down to a battle of Shahan and Quinn.
Yeah.
They know a lot about eachother.
They've obviously we're coachingtogether, so who's gonna figure
out whom now, knowing that,knowing Quinn's defense now, way
better players at this point,but has a tendency to not
perform well when there's aMcCaffery McCaffrey as an

(01:39:14):
athlete, a deebo as an athletewith a quarterback who can move.
somewhat.
And that to me is what's gonnaloom large.
Now, obviously, I'm gonna assumeParsons is healthy.
The curse thing that didn't lookgood.
No.
That looked like an, I know itwas a, contact, but that didn't,
that didn't look good.
That'll hurt.

(01:39:36):
And then to your point, if Diggsis not trying to play football
from a tackling standpointshanahan's gonna dial up and go
out from Yeah.
All game.
And I, and Diggs didn't playwell that well in coverage last
week either.
Didn't really need to, but

Cole Ingle (01:39:53):
No, and the one thing I will say about that
though is that he didn't play,like when guys were wide o open,
they were wide open and likewhen he was on coverage, but he
did not give them any doublemove.
Correct.
Or big plays down the field.
He made them beat them in frontof him.
Yeah.

(01:40:13):
And so I will commend him forthat.
Even though he played super softin all other realms of being
able to play soft andsuccessful, do

Stoy Hall (01:40:23):
you think game, do you think that was part of the
scheme is for him to play softand then men Mentality wise, he
just went soft.

Cole Ingle (01:40:28):
Soft and I can't disagree with that.
And I think that's probably thebetter play because Tampa is not
a high scoring team.
So therefore if you allow themthe big play.
like they had proven all season,they cannot drive the ball down
the field and score.
And that's exactly whathappening in Sounds.
They drove the ball, they scoredTom Brady through 66 times.
That's they drove the ball.

(01:40:50):
They were down there four orfive different times, but
that's, they were terrible onthird down.
They were like all of thosethings, Brady can't move.
So he's susceptible to Sack inthose situations.
He was inaccurate.
Like those, all those thingsplayed out because they didn't
let, the only time they letEvans get deep was at the very
end of the game when they justcompletely screwed up a coverage

(01:41:11):
and let'em run wide open downthe sideline.
And that wasn't even on Diggs.
I liked that game plan.
That's not going to work againstthe 49ers however just because
of the scheme and whatever theyplay, but yeah I, wasn't, it was
embarrassing for me to watchdigs at time because that's not
the type of player he is.
But you can tell it, felt likethat's how he was coached.

(01:41:33):
Yeah.
So

Stoy Hall (01:41:34):
not the tackling part.
Let's just not get that wrong.
He was not coached to run awayfrom a

Cole Ingle (01:41:38):
tackle or like the fumble play.
He completely dodged away fromthat.
Every type of play that he had achance to have contact, he

Stoy Hall (01:41:47):
literally dove away

Cole Ingle (01:41:48):
from Yeah.
Looked like a little schoolgirl.
It's right.
It was

Stoy Hall (01:41:50):
bad.
But, so that's, where we sit.
For, me, I'm just, I'm ridingthe hot hand.
I've got Niners and I got atthree Niners to cover, cuz it'll
probably end up being a pushanyway.
I wouldn't bet on the spread atall.
So yeah, I'm gonna go with HotHand with Niners.
This will be, there'll be a lotof old school footage with this

(01:42:11):
matchup.
It'll be really cool to see inprimetime.
This one does go over I'm I'mthinking 31, 24, 31, 28 area.
Cuz I, I do believe that cowboyswill score late.
Chain hand does a really poorjob at closing up football
games.
And that's what'll it'll comedown to.

(01:42:32):
Now if Purdy gets wild throwspicks, if that goes crazy,
decides to turn it over, couldget ugly side and literally can
get Yeah.
It can get ugly either side.
And so that's where, that's whyI leave it at.

Cole Ingle (01:42:43):
Yeah.
The big thing that a lot ofnostalgia is, I look back on
this, came grew up a, bigCowboys fan.
Huge triplet fan, Troy Aikman,Emmett Smith, Michael Irvin.
There was a battle between themand the 49ers pretty much all of
the, mid to late nineties, SteveYoung and crew.

(01:43:06):
He had a lot of guys go in andout of there, all top-notch guys
between receiver and, runningback there.
But there was always goodbattles.
And that was a, rivalry that Ialways enjoyed watching.
Never ha I never hated the 49ersbecause they were always classy.

(01:43:28):
Yeah.
And, it was just one of thosethings it was always just going
to be a good game.
That's, those are the two teamsthat battled for the NFC East,
it feels like every year of mychildhood So getting back to
that, and then you throw in thefact that Purdy's playing for
the 49ers.
Yep.
Obviously the Cowboys wannaplayoff game against Tom Brady
on the road.

(01:43:49):
Whoa, holy shit.
What's going on?
Is don't want, I'm not gonna getmy hopes up.
And again, if the 49ers win, Ihope they win the Super Bowl
type of thing.
But it'd be great to see aCowboys

Stoy Hall (01:44:04):
win this There it is.
There it is mean.

Cole Ingle (01:44:09):
There it is.
You can't help but watch Dakplay, watch Kellen War play
calling and be like, all right,like it's in there.
Yeah.
It's, possible.
It really is.
Can Dallas keep the 49ers infront of them and make Purdy
the, ultimately the one that hasto make all of the plays?
Don't let McCaffrey get a 40yard run.

(01:44:30):
Don't let Deebo get a 45 yard,double reverse, whatever the
hell they're gonna do.
Whatever it is.
Like what, whatever it is withthose guys.
Make, it be from Purdy over thetop.
And whether that's an extendedplayer or whatever, make him be
the one to make the play andalso let him be the one to make
the mistake.
And Dak you can't you're, theveteran in this.

(01:44:50):
you can't make the mistakeCorrect, early, late, whatever
The 49ers are, the team that areset up to be able to do an
entire open offense for anentire game and have big play
potential no matter wherethey're at without having to
change their scheme.
Dallas is, but that's not howthey play call.

(01:45:12):
Unfortunately.
But then like last night we wereup 31 14 and we threw a 40 yard
fade pass, right?
Instead of just running thefootball.
Hey, who knows?

Stoy Hall (01:45:23):
Who knows it, it made its aggressive cowboys in the
playoffs, right?

Cole Ingle (01:45:27):
I hope we go out, I hope we go down swinging.
I hope it's a great game.
Obviously, hope we win the game.
But if I'm betting with my head,which isn't good either maybe
fade me on that.
But yeah, I'm looking forward toa great game, great week of

(01:45:48):
games.
I, do think that the spreads, asyou're going to see in our picks
are a little lopsided.
I, don't see these games gettingthat outta control.
I see them all being in onepossession games.
I don't see either any teamhaving a, significant glaring

(01:46:09):
advantage, which is what we sawlast week.
Yeah.
And then we still saw closegames.
So hopefully we don't see theopposite of that.
Nobody wants to see a blowout.
That would be, yeah.
That would be a big letdown.
Again, Jacksonville playing aswell as anybody in the afc
albeit young and inexperienced,playing against the chiefs could
be rusty.
So I expect that game to beclose, simply because that's how

(01:46:30):
those teams play.
Sea Eagles is just a divisionrivalry.
Giants are playing as good asthey've played.
Eagles.
Again, rusty Hertz hasn'tplayed.
You got Cincinnati, Buffalo,everybody wants to see that
game.
What are your thoughts on thatgame as far as like emotions
from the last two ga, last timethese two games teams played

(01:46:52):
each other.
Like the, it's better that it'snot at Cincinnati.
Yeah.
It's so much better because it'snot on their field so much
better.
But the game ended with anambulance ride and teams.
Not knowing about their friend,their brother.
Emotions, high emotions.

(01:47:14):
Like, I see the pregame beingvery

Stoy Hall (01:47:16):
brotherly.
I, think they'll do somethingand I don't know if a team will
do it.
They'll do something.
They're gonna do something.
Pregame, once they do that, itmight even be the first snap or
something.
Whatever.
All the way up till then.
Yeah.
You're gonna have thoseemotions, everything.
Once that happens, I thinkthey'll be fine, but they're
gonna do something to

Cole Ingle (01:47:33):
have to, like the, emotions are still there.
Like they're still robbing, butit won't DeMar Hamlin has now,
if it was at.
That's a whole different feel.
Oh man.
That would've, that would bejust like doom and gloom type

Stoy Hall (01:47:43):
of thing.

Cole Ingle (01:47:46):
It'd be interesting to talk.
We haven't really talked aboutthat, so I was just curious as I
was going back through there,like no.
Yeah, so yeah.
But how that affects the game,if that affects the start again.
Maybe, a first half under youlook at there because of that
probably teams dragging a littlebit.
Maybe.
Or, just over emoted.
Could be could.
And then obviously we get to youthe Sunday afternoon evening

(01:48:07):
game.
Dallas, San Francisco, and wehope they end with the barn
burner.

Stoy Hall (01:48:11):
Yeah these, got, we got some matchups.
Do you

Cole Ingle (01:48:14):
have any best bets?
Not that we don't need to do allof our normal best bets, but
like anything that you reallysee that's glaring that jumps
outta you as far as whether itbe a number or an over under
that you really feel like, feelvery strong about this?

Stoy Hall (01:48:31):
Not really.
Okay.
Ultimately and the reason

Cole Ingle (01:48:34):
We feel very strong about the overs we're both

Stoy Hall (01:48:35):
on.
Yeah.
Clearly.
Take the ride the

Cole Ingle (01:48:38):
overs eight no on overs.
Yeah.
And that's about the backfire.
Go.

Stoy Hall (01:48:41):
They're going, all of 'em are going under.
No, not really.
The I'm good.
Like I'm What's

Cole Ingle (01:48:47):
your strongest deal on the o Like, so we, both had
all four overs hitting.
What is your strongest overplayChief stacks?
Man, I just, I completely agreewith that.

Stoy Hall (01:49:03):
The, Eagles giants I can see going under cuz it's
division.
Bengals, bills, they, some ofthose games turn into 20 to 17
fairly easy.
Cowboys, Niners, yeah.
That one should go over.
As it should.
But

Cole Ingle (01:49:20):
both teams can run the ball.
So if they could take the, theycould

Stoy Hall (01:49:23):
take the game, the clock away.
They take the clock away if theywanted to.
So the, Chiefs Jags though?
I don't think so.
I think they're going fulloctane.
Yeah.
And just going at it.
And that's what we, and

Cole Ingle (01:49:34):
both teams are gonna just continue to sling it.
That's what Lawrence showed,even when he got down 27,
nothing.
Correct.
Obviously the Chiefs have theability to be on the other side
of that 27 7

Stoy Hall (01:49:43):
would not be shocked if both of them threw for more
than 40 times.
And so with that,

Cole Ingle (01:49:49):
we agree on that.
Any of the, spreads that jumpout at you that are I think we
both agreed Yeah.
That just the numbers were alittle too big on the cheat on
the one Seeds ultimately whohaven't played Yeah.
And then had teams that arefairly hot coming in, playing

(01:50:11):
them.
Yeah.
And also that have played close,games.

Stoy Hall (01:50:15):
Honestly I, would stay away from spreads.
I don't like'em.
I just don't like'em.
I think the Chief's Eagles, Ithink it's too many points, but
I just don't.
It, which is good.
My whole, my gut, right?
My gut feeling for this weekendis I'm just going to enjoy
football because I really don'thave a feel for these games as
much as

Cole Ingle (01:50:35):
I would stick that.
How about give me one touchdownscore from each of these games.
Ooh.
And anytime right now we haven'treally done that, but as far as
having a best bet instead ofdoing our best bets, maybe do
that.
Kelsey's gonna score.
Yeah.
Kelsey, and the Jacksonvillegame.
Yeah.
Kelsey's scoring.
I am going to go with your boyMcKinnon.

(01:50:55):
Oh, he'll be a little bithigher, but I think he finds a
way to score touchdown thatgame.
The Chiefs have been using themin a lot of different ways.
So a little, okay.
Let me see.
As we do that, I'm gonna try topull up what their touchdown
odds might be.
So the next game you've got theGiants and the Eagles.

Stoy Hall (01:51:15):
The Eagles Barkley, I have to, they have to give him

Cole Ingle (01:51:21):
touches.
He's so Kelsey's minus 1 45,McKenna's McKinnon's one 20.
Those are the top two guyswithout even looking.
That, we hit there.
Of course

Stoy Hall (01:51:34):
Why not?
For me, it's gotta be Barclay.
He they, have to give him histouches and he, will score.
He has to, if they wanna

Cole Ingle (01:51:41):
be in the game, he's minus 1 0 5.
And I'm going with Hertz whounfortunately is minus 1 25

Stoy Hall (01:51:54):
All

Cole Ingle (01:51:55):
bengals.
Bills Bengals.
Bills I would go with probablych I would probably either go
with Alan or Davis or, Chase.
Burrow.
Chase is 1 25.

(01:52:16):
Alan's 1 45.
I think Alan at 1 45 is a Iwould like that.
I like Gabriel Davis at 1 65actually.
Would be probably the play therefor me.
Which one are you going with?
I would go with with Davis andthe Bills game.
Yeah.
At, a little more.
Bill.
At what?
1 65

Stoy Hall (01:52:36):
plus.
Yep.
I'm gonna go completelydifferent.
Okay.
Gimme knocks.
Okay.
I just think he'll take a lotaway.
Tight ends show up in playoffs.
We've seen him every game.
And I think that assuming he'shealthy, I have no clue on that.

(01:52:58):
by the way.

Cole Ingle (01:53:00):
As far as I know he is.
Okay.
Yep.
So what

Stoy Hall (01:53:02):
was his

Cole Ingle (01:53:04):
sorry, I didn't I didn't see him on the,

Stoy Hall (01:53:07):
hence the reason I said if he's healthy, because if
he's not then I have no clue.
There he is.
Plus two, 10

Cole Ingle (01:53:20):
no mine.
Tea.
Higgins a plus one 90, either.
Nope.
Think he's gonna have a biggame.

Stoy Hall (01:53:24):
Not at all.
Not at all.
All right.
Cowboys, Niners, Cowboys,Niners.
The easy one here from Caffery.
I think he's gonna score atouchdown.

Cole Ingle (01:53:33):
Yeah.
And I would actually go withDeebo, but, okay.
And that one I would actually gowith the lower of.
I don't want this.
Here we go.
TV score, props.

(01:54:01):
Just one game.
Oh yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:54:07):
You're just in the game.
Here we go.
E Hey, sports.
It's in the game.
Why

Cole Ingle (01:54:15):
is it not showing me the Dallas game's?
Not giving me the really, therewe go.

Stoy Hall (01:54:23):
I was like, how could they do that?
No, they don't have any time on

Cole Ingle (01:54:26):
there any times yet for whatever reason.

Stoy Hall (01:54:29):
That's

Cole Ingle (01:54:30):
silly, huh?
That's the only game it doesn'thave.
Okay.
Any time touchdowns yet.
I don't know if it's becauseit's late or what it is, but

Stoy Hall (01:54:48):
what was Debo by the way?
Oh wait, you couldn't find it.
No,

Cole Ingle (01:54:52):
there's not.
Yeah, I don't have a line forthat.

Stoy Hall (01:54:56):
I'm going Pollard.
Pollard.
Yep.
Long screen pass.
This time he's due for a bigone.
He hasn't had a big one.
I'll go for a Kittle.

Cole Ingle (01:55:08):
Kittle.
Yep.
Whatever that ends up being.
All right.
Sounds good.
Yeah.
For whatever reason, they don'thave touchdowns for that union
en

Stoy Hall (01:55:21):
weird.
There it is.
So there's the wrap up.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (01:55:27):
Of looking for some good games.
Saturday.
What's it playing?
Saturday.
You coming over, right?
Yeah.
I got, the boys.
I'll bring'em over.

Stoy Hall (01:55:36):
Bring'em over.
We're gonna

Cole Ingle (01:55:37):
do I don't think my wife's gonna be like, Hey, you
know what?
Don't give me ta don't me.
Tab load

Stoy Hall (01:55:44):
We're gonna do pork belly two ways.
Oh.
We're gonna do

Cole Ingle (01:55:47):
an upside down and inside out Yep.
Alright.

Stoy Hall (01:55:50):
Perfect.
Actually, if you think about itvery, close.
Very close.
We're gonna do a, an Asian verypuffed up, crispy skin, if you
will.
And then I'm doing like a, planaole pork except for pork.
Pork belly.
Yep.
And then do the cracklings andserve that on top as the crunchy

(01:56:11):
factor.
Okay.
What do I do?
Cornbread.
That's another question I'll doCornbread.
If you wanna do some type of I

Cole Ingle (01:56:19):
got a new bottle of whiskey yammering.
Okay.
That

Stoy Hall (01:56:21):
works.
Yep.
Something, and then I'llprobably end up just growing up
some chicken or something forthe kids in case they don't like
that.
Which if they don't.

Cole Ingle (01:56:32):
They're not American.
That's on them.
That's

Stoy Hall (01:56:33):
on.
Yeah.
They'll figure it out.
You better go make your ownchicken nuggets.
Pure lashy little fuckers.
Yeah.
That, that's about it.
Okay.
Unless you can think of like adessert or something crazy for
the kiddos.
That's

Cole Ingle (01:56:44):
fine.
You like Swoo?
We live in Iowa.
Yeah.
I just didn't know Nebraska.
So it's Scotch Russ.
Okay.
It's a Midwest thing, not an

Stoy Hall (01:56:54):
Iowa.
It's, obviously, it's moreprevalent in Iowa.

Cole Ingle (01:56:57):
It's Midwest thing.
So do you have a favorite, likewhat I would call Midwestern
dessert?
So in this category I would putScotch R I would put puppy chow.
Familiar with both of those, Iassume.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think.
Anything else that, that mightcome to mind that wouldn't be a

(01:57:20):
standard dessert, but is itabsolutely delicious?
Yes.
Puppy chow's my favorite.
I

Stoy Hall (01:57:26):
love some, puppy chow.
My gra absolutely.
My grandma's cherry fluff.
Okay.
And it is melted downmarshmallows whipped cream and
canned cherry.
Yep.
With a graham cracker crust.

Cole Ingle (01:57:37):
Okay.
Have you had strawberry pretzeldessert?

Stoy Hall (01:57:40):
Yes, it's similar.
Very similar.

Cole Ingle (01:57:42):
Okay.
Similar.
Very similar.
Without the pretzels.
Correct.
But the pretzels of the grahamcrackers.
Another Midwestern dessert.
Absolutely.
Of the Midwestern salad.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:57:52):
And they're not even really just salad.
The thing is they're not,they're side, they're the
cherry, they're actually sides.
Cherry

Cole Ingle (01:57:57):
salad.
Yeah.
You're having ch cherry salad.
Because I always, it was alwayscracked me up like strawberry
pretzel salad.
It's always a salad or acasserole.
There's nothing green or healthyin either one of those.

Stoy Hall (01:58:10):
If you go to anything Midwestern, they'll be at like a
potluck.
Yeah.
They'll be at least 10 saladdishes.
Salads in zero

Cole Ingle (01:58:17):
actual salads.
So my mom's favorite salad tomake is a banana, mandarin,
orange from the can.
And then it's vanilla puddingand marshmallows.
And it's marshmallow salad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's it's a salad.
Yeah.
But it's pudding.
But it's pudding and fruit andmarshmallows mixed

Stoy Hall (01:58:37):
together.
Yeah.
I wonder, I

Cole Ingle (01:58:39):
would love to know that.
And as a kid, where does a saladcome from?
As a kid, I like now my mom doescaramel checks.
Caramel checks amazing.
She does'em well.
That's what we have her bring,cuz she's not a cook.
We don't tell her that.
But it is fine.
Caramel checks.
Mom, if you're listening, mom,if you happen to listen to this
after the fact, love you.

(01:59:00):
But caramel checks.
Caramel checks.
That's why we have you stick tothat marshmallow dessert.
No, no longer any good.
She also used to do a chocolatepie where you'd buy the pre-made
graham cracker Cru crust.
Chocolate pudding.
Whipped Cool whip.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:59:15):
Simple.
I used to, I used amazing, Iused to make that in college
just as a quick,

Cole Ingle (01:59:19):
easy thing.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like, I don't need to go spend$15 at the Village Inn for a
French silk.
I need that.
I need the chocolate, I need thechocolate pudding pie.
All three bucks.
But marshmallow salad wasdefinitely a childhood
nostalgia.
Yeah.
Cuz it's just not there anymore.
Yeah.
So that's, I don't know.
That's the same way as myMidwest desserts.

(01:59:41):
Midwest desserts desserts.
And they're, again, they'resalads because Scotcheroos,
that's that's a favorite from mymother-in-law.
Yeah.
She does great.
My wife does a great scotch ruas well.
Monkey Bread.
And then the last one, or Iguess two Rice Krispy treats,
which I think are national rice.

Stoy Hall (02:00:03):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't, I've never really gotbehind rice crispy

Cole Ingle (02:00:06):
treats, homemade rice, crispy treats pretty good.
My baby, my childhood babysitterknocked all of these out of the
park.
So I'm very nostalgic to all ofthese things.
It's like she made craft mac andcheese taste like I can't ever
make craft mac and cheese taste.
So I, like I still have that forher.
For her.
And then what was the last onethat she would make?

(02:00:31):
I'm trying to think.
We have the caramel checks, thepuppy chow.
The scotcheroos.
We had rice crispy treats.
Yeah, maybe that's it.
Monkey bread.
Just all of those things.
They're all just, they're also

Stoy Hall (02:00:46):
good.
So bring some of those, some ofthose.
Any of those.
Any of those.
Yeah, it's fine.
Any and all combinations.

Cole Ingle (02:00:52):
My wife's specialty is a pasta salad.
So if I say Hey, I need to takea side to this, or pasta salads.
She's she's rotini pasta salad,multi-colored small pepperonis,
nice.
Olives and onions and a wholebunch of Italian dressing.
Nice.
So I can get bonded.

(02:01:13):
Sorry that you don't likeolives.

Stoy Hall (02:01:15):
I can't do olives,

Cole Ingle (02:01:16):
black olives.
Do your kids like olives?
No.
My kids eat specifically blackolives.
Gross.
They'll put'em on their fingers,and do like the bugle thing.
That's awesome.
So yeah, they love olives.
No, Not for you, huh?
Nope.
No, See, and I, the thing iswith me is I don't like black
olives whole, but I like blackolives on pizza.

(02:01:38):
And I like black olives, cut upin the pasta salad.
That makes sense.
But I like green olives whole,and they don't like green olives
at all.
But my kids love black oliveswhole like

Stoy Hall (02:01:50):
olives.
Black olives remind me of blackla cian.
I can't.

Cole Ingle (02:01:53):
Yeah, but those are like, I don't like black
liquorish.
I can't.
That's fine.
Obviously as foodies we neededto get into this conversation,
but yeah.

Stoy Hall (02:02:02):
So you like black olives cut up, but not whole.
Yep.
But like

Cole Ingle (02:02:06):
green whole.
Tell me about carrots.
How do you feel about carrots?
And carrots.
All carrots are not carrots.
Yeah.
I love carrots.
Cooked, not cooked.
I love carrot.
I'm a cooked carrot guy.
Are you only

Stoy Hall (02:02:16):
like a mushy one or like a there's a little give
like where are you at

Cole Ingle (02:02:19):
with that?
No like, specifically like mixedend, anything.
So like you wanna throw it inthe stir fry.
You want to do whatever.
Oh, okay.
I see you.
Or baked like with olive oil,like a sweet potato fry, but
like a cooked carrot.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (02:02:33):
Boom.
Yeah, I can get behind that.
I'm all about raw

Cole Ingle (02:02:36):
carrots.
Can't do not, even a can.
Can, but no need to.
Oh, it had delicious.
A lot of people love carrots.
Carrots are pretty easy to eat,honestly.
Celery I can buy in celery withpeanut butter or ranch.
Either one or blue cheese wifehates celery.
It's the one thing that sheabsolutely does not eat.

(02:02:58):
Really?
It doesn't it doesn't like ofall of water, the food.
So think of all of the thingsthat like I could take her out
to whatever, where she gets offthe train is celery.
Celery,

Stoy Hall (02:03:09):
yeah.
It's an easy one to avoid,

Cole Ingle (02:03:11):
but So chicken salad, love chicken salad.
Any kind of chicken salad.
I mean I can eat it with fruitwithout fruit.
Plain whatever.
I love Casey's chicken salad tohomemade chicken.
You throw a little bit of celeryin a chicken salad, she's out.
To be fair, I don't like celeryin my chicken salad.
But like it's not that you, itwould keep you from eating it,
right?

(02:03:32):
No, it wouldn't.
It would keep her from eatingit.
Celery.
That's her like her one pick isit?
But does all things cel texture.
It's a texture thing, but thetaste delicious.
Like celery, but like of all theother foods that might have
texture issues you're going withcelery.

Stoy Hall (02:03:47):
I, Hey, it's an easy one to get rid of.
Love you babe.
Easy one to get rid of, right?
Like at least that's an easyone.
Lincoln, my oldest doesn't likecorn.
I

Cole Ingle (02:03:57):
don't know.
Don't get, don't we get, myoldest doesn't like mac and
cheese.
Oh, peanut butter and jelly.
You talk about, you find the topfive staple foods of child, of
kids.
Doesn't like my kid doesn't likeBLTs number one food in his food
group.
Get it.
His blt, he does not eat bread.

(02:04:19):
Eats only toast.
And if this is since he wasyoung, this is not like develop.
This is since he was two yearsold.
He will eat a B l T toasted andmake sure that it's fully
toasted.
The bread cannot be soft.
So he will eat the full bblt.
Does not like lettuce.

(02:04:41):
He will not eat lettuce at allin any way, shape or form.
But he will eat bacon.
Tomato.
We put avocados on our blt.
Yeah.
Obviously delicious ketchup,which is, that's my, that's not
good.
What?
That's what So eats tomatoes andketchup.
My wife only eats ketchup on ourBLTs Mind you.
But she eats the lettuce.
Okay.

(02:05:01):
All I was

Stoy Hall (02:05:02):
fine.
Thank you.
You were fine with celery.
That shit's weird.
Thank you.

Cole Ingle (02:05:06):
That's weirder shit.
Thank you.
So I'm eating all of the things,not ketchup on my blt, but like
all of the other things, no, notchance.
Bacon, lettuce, tomato, stable.
B Lt Hudson has full br fulltoasted bacon, tomato, avocado,
ketchup, baked beans because wealways make baked beans as our

(02:05:28):
side for nice BLTs.
He puts'em on the sandwich.
He will eat two full ones ofthat.
And the dude weighs 47 poundsand he will.
Okay.
Ha.
Beast.
Absolutely beast them.
And then go.
Can I have a half?
One more.
Anytime we eat BLTs.

(02:05:49):
Oh, you need my youngest Bacon'sexpensive.
Who is three will eat BLTsbacon, mayo toast.
I like it.

Stoy Hall (02:06:00):
One I, get, I one

Cole Ingle (02:06:02):
one, but he'll eat the whole Hey.
again.
I'll applaud him on that again.
What are we doing?
So if they have hot lunch atschool and it's anything that
Hudson doesn't like, he caneither do a ham sandwich or
Turkey sandwiches.
It's cold lunch.
Yeah.
He will only eat the meat off ofthose sandwiches.
Yeah.
So there are multiple days atlunch where he has cold meat and

(02:06:25):
if he likes the side

Stoy Hall (02:06:29):
that sounds like the but like

Cole Ingle (02:06:31):
he's not just eat him.
Picky again, avocado.
Yeah.
Not picky.
Like it's pick, but it's oh,we're not gonna eat mac and
cheese.
Cut.
Yeah.
The staple of we're not gonnaeat any type of sandwich as with
bread.
No, because

Stoy Hall (02:06:45):
it's not toasted.
That's, that is such a, but Dad,

Cole Ingle (02:06:48):
I hate bread.
I love, I don't eat that.
He, but if you toast it also,the only kind of pasta he will
eat, multi spaghetti, spaghetti.
Anything that is bigger than aspaghetti noodle, he will not
eat.
Which is insane.
Dude will house three servingsof spaghetti.
I eat last night

Stoy Hall (02:07:05):
But, it's elbow pasta not a

Cole Ingle (02:07:06):
chip.
No, Not touching it.
And you think I'm lying And thishas been since he was little,
this is not something he'sadapted.
Hey kid.
Do,

Stoy Hall (02:07:14):
you know that they're the same?

Cole Ingle (02:07:15):
He's been the same.
So consistent though.
It's you can't, even be madabout him because you're just
like, he's not gonna eat that.
Yeah.
But he'll eat shrimp, he'll eatlike you do like a shrimping,
weenie or whatever.
Loves to put like lime and lemonon his like taco won't eat a
soft shell, taco hard shell.

(02:07:35):
He likes crunchy

Stoy Hall (02:07:35):
dad.
He like that soft shit.

Cole Ingle (02:07:37):
He will not eat a flower taco.
I like it.
And again, that's good.
You can put, you'll put a hardshell taco out there.
Doodle house three tacos.
He's not basic.
No.
He's the opposite of basic whichis when you're six.
Like I don't need that.
I love that.
I can get off.
Yeah.
He's a interesting food.
P the three year old is just apain of the ass.

(02:07:58):
Like they're three years,doesn't matter.
Like they're three years olds.
But he is not, like Hudson hasbeen the same throughout.
Nothing's changed with that.
So like we know hayes,

Stoy Hall (02:08:10):
some days this, some days that some days

Cole Ingle (02:08:12):
nothing.
Something.
Yeah.
And some days you just get, youthrow'em outside put'em outside,

Stoy Hall (02:08:18):
don't be an asshole.
Yeah.
Stop.

Cole Ingle (02:08:20):
Please stop being an asshole.
Yeah.
And neither one, like my wife orI, either one are, picky by any
means.
Like I said, her thing iscelery.
Like of all things, like it'sone thing.
So it's not like we're embeddingthat in our children or anything
like that.
Yeah.
But yeah, they just kids will bekids, but it's just very funny
to see all of those things.

(02:08:41):
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (02:08:42):
Kids are kids.
Yeah.
Alright, with that, we'll we'llat least sign off from you.
Yeah.
If I can click it.

Cole Ingle (02:08:50):
Good night.
Go playoffs.
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