71 - Pebble time...... and Pro Bowl - NoBS GoonSquad Sports Show

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Stoy Hall (00:02):
vodka, vodka.
Vodka, Did you hear that?
Everybody?
You went with the vodka.
The vodka.
He's going Russian today.
I don't know why.
Scares me.
Scares me.

Cole Ingle (00:14):
Gotta get in drinking mode.

Stoy Hall (00:18):
You, when you have two shitty shoes, shitty shots,
however, things don't go yourway.
I had, I somewhat built out,actually, I need to pull it up.
Our golf one from last year.
And then I realized we do,there's a lot more shitty shots
in the golf season.

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Yeah.

Cole Ingle (00:40):
Yeah.
Think

Stoy Hall (00:41):
Exponentially.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (00:44):
Because we, because like golfing and drinking Yeah,
it makes sense.

Stoy Hall (00:47):
There's a lot more bedding to happen, right?
It's, a lot more

Cole Ingle (00:51):
It's a lot easier to get bored and there's a lot more
things you can bet on.
Correct,

Stoy Hall (00:55):
correct.
So yeah, that's a lot morethings, but that's where we're
at.
Keeps

Cole Ingle (00:59):
us entertained

Stoy Hall (01:01):
all.
So the Champion Ship WeekendChampionship weekend happened.
Yeah.
Really the only thing thathappened this

Cole Ingle (01:12):
weekend, you get yours in here cuz I'm about to
get

Stoy Hall (01:14):
at it.
Yeah.
I, couldn't tell by the how manytweets you were sending.
Oh my God.
I felt like someone was a littlehot under the collar.
But championship weekend happen.
It was game one just is sad.
It was just a disappointing wayto have a game.

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Congrats.
Eagles, you survived.
Not having anyone hurt.
So you didn't really have to,they didn't really have to
compete much.
Nine ERs running a lot longerthan I believe they should have
had been.
But N F L you're gonna compete.
But it was just sad to see.
That happened to, to Brock,obviously local kid tearing your

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U ucl.
I don't know what that wouldfeel like, but no wonder he
couldn't throw the ball and thenhave your backup quarterback end
up getting concussion.
And now, what do you do?
So that game was just meh.
It was just a sad, chain ofevents.
It was gonna happen just how youhappened.

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Really the only thing that wasof any crazyness was early on
the first touchdown and shouldnot have been, but we will, I'm
sure we'll pick that apart.
Yeah.
As we have video evidence ofthat.
And so that was that for me.
Game one, just, eh game two.
As I said, it would be, it'sgonna be a sloppy under situ.

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and I thought my homes lookedreally well.
Actually.
He looks like he can move aroundvery well.
Two more weeks on that.
It's gonna be tremendous.
They need to get their receivershealthy to have a shot in my
opinion, but they'll be fine.
Kelsey's healthy

Cole Ingle (03:02):
and that's

Stoy Hall (03:02):
all it matters.
Kelsey's healthy and no one everguards him, so they're whatever.
Why not cover Kelsey?
That game in, I'm just pumpingthis up as much to you as
possible.
That game I, believe the bestteam won at the end.
I, I, they were the better teamthroughout the game.
The Bengals just, they didn'tlook it, their offense was are

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all over the place.
Defense was getting driven onthe chief should have had way
more points, but Bengals defenseheld the way the game ended is
what you're going to get to,which is what the world is
basically upset about.
I just want everyone to knowthat.
the chiefs were the better team.

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The better team won.
How they won is a totallydifferent conversation.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (03:51):
I'm gonna start, that's a a great great
transition.
I'm going to start by agreeingwith you.
First and foremost, I think thatthe, better two football teams
one from an execution coachingjust overall look standpoint.
I feel like those are the twoteams that whether you wanna say

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deserved, however you wanna sayit.
I'll put that caveat out there.
I think that those were the twoteams that should have been
there.
Item number two is, I'm not aconspiracy theorist in that I
don't think NFL games arerigged.
Correct.
I think that things are done andthings are called, I think refs
may or may not be involved insome gambling stuff that prob

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they probably shouldn't be.
Not every game, not but there'stoo many things that happen that
you can't tell me it's neverhappened before, type of thing.
Do I think it was the case thisweekend?
No.
I think the NFL was in a reallygood spot this weekend.
They had four teams and itreally didn't matter which two
teams won, which two games.

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Some shitty luck for the 49erslike you said, feel bad for'em.
And then the Bengals just by notbeing able to block the chiefs
put themselves in a veryprecarious position the entire
game because they could not stopthe Chiefs pass rush.
The Chiefs didn't do all of thethings I would've done in order
to exploit the Bengals and theBengals didn't have a chance to

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do some things against thechiefs that as far as running
the football and stuff likethat, simply because they
couldn't block four rushers.
So, those, all those thingsbeing said, the thing that I
cannot stand, and the thing thatI was most irritated about all
weekend is that both games wereref shows.

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A 30, was it 31 7 final?
31 7 final.
Somehow a game that was 31 toseven without, and the team
without a quarterback became aref show game.
Only the N NFL can somehow screwthat up.
Like in a game that's 31 toseven, a team doesn't have a
quarterback, puts a quarterbackwho can't even throw the damn
ball back in the game, which,that's a whole nother
conversation.

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What in the hell are the refsdoing, making these games about
themselves?
In a 31 to seven game where oneteam can literally not throw the
football, the refs should beinvisible, absolutely invisible.
I should not know who ref thegame.
I should not know any calls thatwere made.
They should all be irrelevant,and yet we can go through that

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game.
And the first drive that theEagle score on is an incomplete
pass of which the incompetenceof the booth to buzz.
Bec as they see the guy standup, run very quickly, back to
the line, knowing full well thathe dropped the ball.
First of all, Shanahan, throwthe damn red flag.
This is a, ball at the two yardline.

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This is, you're giving up sevenpoints if you don't, and yet we
let the play run the booth.
Buzz misses the R, the challengeflag misses seven.
Nothing Eagles on an incompletepass, which was on fort down.
So this isn't, oh, they would'vegot points.
This is a clear, give the ballto the 49ers.

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Lose game momentum at a timethat can change.
Play calls moving forwardbecause you're not down seven,
nothing.
Not saying that you're gonnachange a tunnel of plane calls,
but this just changes the wholereflection of the game.
The longer the game goes, themore game pressure they were in
the field.

Stoy Hall (07:19):
Philadelphia doesn't score, like there's a lot of
snowballs

Cole Ingle (07:22):
from there.
And Jalen Hertz is very muchwhen it comes to throwing the
football a comfort thrower.
Yeah.
If he's comfortable, he's fine.
but like Lil Mar Jackson, hegets a little more inaccurate as
things get a little tighter.
Stuff like that, you're going toget those throws.
Josh Allen, same thing likethey're, when they're not
comfortable, when they can't doall of their offense because

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they're not playing with a sevenoh lead that was given to them,
then that changes game plan.
That changes everything.
That changes how the 49ers haveto play defense.
That changes how long the 49ersdefense has to be on the field.
And all of those things changecomplexions of the game.
That's drive one, get down thenit's seven, seven, get down

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whatever, ten seven, fourteenseven Purdy gets hurt.
Josh Johnson fumbles the damnball away on a perfect snap.
Was very disappointed because Ithink he was okay up until that
point and that's when heprobably would've been fine.
That's when the nerves broke.
And former PFL guy a guy that I.

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Personally played against acouple different times.
So like rooting interest Yeah.
Is that he does well.
And so it was just dishearteningand har heartbreaking a little
bit to see that happen to thatguy.
And after that it was that's,that was the breaking point for
me.
Yeah.
More so than even the purdyinjury in that game.
Because I think the 49ers withany type of competent

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quarterback play would've stayedin that game a lot longer.
But he fumbles after the Eaglesscore on a play that was
extended because of a flag on athird down where the Eagles
would've had to punt next timethey get the ball back.
Now inside the, what, 20, 25yard line they go in and score.
So nothing with that they,didn't create a turn.

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That's the thing.
It's like the, Eagles didn'tcreate any of this.
It's like that, that ball wasdropped on the ground.
Josh Johnson then had a chanceto recover it and didn't, and
then somehow the Eagles end upwith it, run the ball and score
whatever.
next time they score is on athird down penalty, they punt
the ball away.
The 49ers guy gets blocked into,oh geez, the punter into his

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punting leg, which is a runninginto the punter.
But because he fell down theygave it a 15 yard penalty, which
it was fourth and sixth, he wasblocked into, but then he was
blocked into.
So it should have been nopenalty.
Correct.
Worst case should have been afive yarder.
Again, give the eagles the ball,eagles go down and score.
So that's right there, that's 28of their 31 points or 24 of

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their 31 points.
And then they scored again late.
But again, on that drive evenlate was two different third
downplays where they either hadillegal contact or p
interference.
I think maybe on one of'em.
And one of those was I wouldeven call it fairly obvious, but
like Hertz was completely justhad no chance at this receiver.

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throwing to this receiver northat receiver catching the ball
ended up breaking the pocket.
They called the penalty while hewas in the pocket instead of,
cuz you can't call a legalcontact when he's outta the
pocket.
Absolutely.
So that's all discretionaryright on what you're looking at
and anything like that.
And again, just another place.
So like now it gets to 31 17eventually, and it's okay, it's
completely over.
But in order to get there, theEagles showed me absolutely

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nothing other than that theyneeded to rely on the refs to
beat a team that was playingwith 50% of their football team.
Did.
You

Stoy Hall (10:54):
forgot something that happened almost every snap too.
Lane

Cole Ingle (10:57):
Johnson.
Yeah.
So going against both ball starsalmost every snap their right
tackle Lane Johnson was a goodhalf tick ahead of the snap
count.
The entire game.
The entire game.
And did not, did he get flaggedany times?
No.
Zero times.
So that that just negates a passrush and again, to me that like

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at some point they're just notgonna call that and Right.
Like the 49ers played throughthat.
But that was my problem withgame one is that final ends up
31 to seven, the Eagles scored10 points in my eyes of like non
ref football.
Yeah.
Against a team who literallycouldn't do anything on offense.

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And so disappointment is thatwhile I think the Eagles were a
better team, that I don't thinkthey were able to show that.
And to me did not prove anythingother than they rode ref
coattails two A 31 to sevenvictory.
And that can sound petty, butultimately I think they were the

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better team, but the, way they,went about it and the way that
it happened just doesn't feellike a good victory.
No, And

Stoy Hall (12:15):
we had talked a little bit about this is fact.
No, it's their fault.
It's, but.
It's not their fault that thosethings happened, but they didn't
step on their throat and score Bwhat it is.
They didn't dominate them thewhole game.
They weren't running up and downtheir throat and sticking it to
'em.
They weren't.
And that's what is more, I guessfor me, disappointing in that

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team looking at the Super Bowl.
Which we won't get to this weekat all.
Yeah.
Is the fact that okay, Eagles,you had a team that is
legitimately down and out, theycannot beat you.
You just go dominate them.
And they didn't.
No.
And to me, a Super Bowl winneror a per the better team should
be able to put you away early,have no doubts.

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We had doubts all the waythrough until Pro, almost
halftime when he decided to go,yeah, whatever he, I don't even
know how you dropped.
Nevermind.
Yeah.
Until then.
And that still a game even afterthat was still a game.
Yeah.
How do you not take over

Cole Ingle (13:14):
and just dominate him?
Yeah, because gain, had thebest, like he was the most
impressive player to me for theEagles.
Broke some tackles, made somebig catches had a couple big
runs.
So like without him, and I'm notsaying that maybe Sanders
would've made those plays or,whatever.
Like ultimately the Eagles werestill going to win that game.
But just didn't, like the lookof it.

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Didn't like the feel of it.
Didn't feel like anything otherthan the refs.
Like just getting the eaglesover the hump every time they
needed to get over the hump.
And when they're already, like,when the 49ers are already
playing, literally shorthanded.
Extremely which I don't agreewith Shanahan, in my opinion.

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Shanahan threw in the towel byputting party back in the game
and him not being able to throwChristian mc Kirkpatrick can
throw the football.
Yep.
At least give a guy a chancethat can actually throw the
football.
And I don't give a shit whatplay call.
it don't matter.

Stoy Hall (14:07):
You, can write plays up as

Cole Ingle (14:08):
you go.
Like just go tell that guy torun a post.
That's guy run a dig and thisguy run a hitch route and I'm
gonna back up and we're gonnachunk it down the field.
We're gonna give it a damnchance at least.
So didn't really like how the49ers took it specifically
Shanahan mid third quarter onbasically just like when we
realized, oh, Purdy really can'tthrow at all.

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Don't put him in the game.
The thing is you make your, youmake him look bad by putting him
back in the game and then don't.
And he, and knowing that hecan't

Stoy Hall (14:38):
throw after he told you legitimately we all saw it.
Yeah.
I can't throw.
Okay.
Hold on the phone now.
See this is where they took JoshJohnson down cuz of a
concussion.
They went through that protocol.
Yeah.
There has to be a protocol fornormal ass injuries.
Yeah.
He couldn't throw.
Yeah.
Now could he have hurt andinjured that thing?
More surgery.
He's probably gonna need itanyway.
No, but but why risk's

Cole Ingle (15:00):
disconnected.
Yeah.
Don't, we didn't know it at thatpoint, but like his PCLs
literally disconnected, so Nomatter how,

Stoy Hall (15:06):
did they not, like how did they, there's

Cole Ingle (15:07):
a test.
I assume there's a drawer test,anything like that.
The problem is it's not if heplayed any other position, he
would've played Yeah.
He plays quarterback with hisright arm.

Stoy Hall (15:19):
Yeah.
Sadly.
That's

Cole Ingle (15:21):
what he is, right?
That, is your livelihood.
That's like a pitcher without athrowing as ball.
Yeah.
Or without he could maybe playcatch with the catcher from 20
feet.
That was a, that would be theequivalent of what they were
asking Purdy to do.
And again, it's not fair.
It's a bad look for the team.
It's so that like they, the teamknew and so like they're still

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playing their ass off, but theyalso knew he couldn't throw.
And it's just like at some pointyou're gonna stop playing.
And then you had the whole bodyslam.
Because games started getting.
Awesome.

Stoy Hall (15:58):
I cannot wait to show.
I'm gonna put that on

Cole Ingle (16:00):
repeat.
So yeah, 14 times, we'll talkabout that, that great.
But that's game one.
Just left a bad taste in mymouth.
Going into game two.
Game two Bengals chiefs.
Everybody knew it was gonna be agood game.
One team was gonna win by afield goal, give or take one way
or the other.
Both teams had their chances.
Both quarterbacks had theirchances.

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Neither one of them played, inmy opinion particularly well.
Both had glimpses of decency.
Mahomes definitely wins the QBbattle for the game.
Gutted out the ankle which youcould tell was sore, but was
much better than I think anyoneanticipated.
Yeah, absolutely.

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And then play the game on thelast play, even if he doesn't
get pushed outta bounds, getsthe first down puts himself in
position where a lot of guys.
just not been able to, gutthrough that or, make that run.
You could tell he wasuncomfortable pushing off of it.
There's a reason he didn't do itall Game.
So great, play at the end.
Hated again ref show.

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Both sides.
I just inconsistencies wholeholding, not holding.
And the refs missed two hugecalls that mattered the most in
the game.
And that's not to say theydidn't miss calls against
Cincinnati throughout the game,but the return and then the

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final play of the game.
You had Kansas City get fivedowns at one point.
Again, not Kansas City's faultthey're just playing the game.
They ran off the field.
They weren't expecting to goback on the field.
They get two more downs.
That was, that whole thing wasweird.
Didn't end up costing Cincinnatianything other than the fact
that their defense had to playtwo more plays.

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So again, it's those smallthings that those refs are
impacting where they're justflat out wrong or incompetent
that have to stop.
Like we cannot have that shit,right?
Like it's too important.
There's too much on the line forthese guys for putting their
bodies on the lines.
There's too much on the linesfor American people gambling

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their own hard-earned money, andyou've now embraced that nfl,
like you've embraced thegambling side.
You are making money off of it,get your shit together and again
to, screw things up that badly.
And in the biggest moments justleave a super sour taste for how

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the game ends of not feelinglike you got the full product or
that you got robbed of somethingthroughout that game because a
ref couldn't make a very.
Simple decision or someonecouldn't buzz down and, give
them information that was veryobvious to the naked eye.
It's one thing to have to reviewsome stuff and get it right, but

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ultimately, like you can't havethe huge screwups on national
television and, the audienceknow right away and someone
either not helping the refs outor the refs not helping
themselves out in those moments.
And just way too many of'em thisyear as a whole.
And now in the postseason alsocoming to light where we're
either missed calls or wrongcalls are costing snaps points

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games, and it's gotta stop.
At some point it's gotta stop.
They're going to make mistakes.
I completely understand that.
But we have way too muchtechnology and way too many
angles that we can seeinstantaneously at home for
those not to be corrected.
And we go on with it.
And the best thing they've doneduring the playoffs is this
whole buzz down to the field,get the call right.

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We don't have to go to the.
Video replay and stuff likethat.
It can't be that inconsistent.
If you and I can watch and be,Hey, buzz down then, that's
fine.
It's 12 seconds a gameplay or 15seconds a gameplay, which these
guys are always in such a hurryto wind the DM clock and get the

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next play going and stuff likethat.
And it's man, you want to call,delay a game.
0.2 seconds after the play clockruns from zero when you wound it
at 40 and now you know how muchtime you just wasted throwing
the flag on a delay a game, youdelayed the game more.

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So who's that?
Who's delaying the game here?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's I just have aproblem with inconsist with how
all that goes down.

Stoy Hall (20:31):
Yeah.
The inconsistencies of theexpedited review.
Were just, so apparent, likefrom game one, obviously we've
already discussed that.
And, even in game two, like thechiefs had to use their
challenge but then the Bengalsdidn't.
Did but didn't because, and I'mjust like, how if it's clearing

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obvious immediately you have allthe angles,

Cole Ingle (20:57):
the red challenge flags have to go, can, I mean
we, that's what we've talkedabout, that there's no reason
for'em at not unless

Stoy Hall (21:02):
you give, not unless you change their purpose.
Like for ruffling the pastor,like you give them other value.
Yeah.
Because no, they should all comearound upstairs.
They have every view.
They should know almostimmediately there's a damn chip
in the football, which no one'saddressed even more from NFL
side.
If there's a chip in thefootball, you should have way

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more data of what's going on.
Yeah.
And that's what kills me aboutnow this expect expedited review
is the fact that like you haveall the

Cole Ingle (21:33):
angles.
And we've had multiple problemsnow in the postseason with the
first down chains.
Yeah.
those should be digital at thispoint.

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I'm,

Stoy Hall (21:41):
I, why is there an

Cole Ingle (21:42):
actual tree?
There shouldn't, there's noreason for it.
If there's a chip, there shouldbe a, there's no need for a
chain.
What even if there's two sticks,there shouldn't be a chain on it
because there should be no,there's two sticks.
A, laser between there and alaser that goes across the
field.
We've talked about this.
This is not like overtlydifficult technology.
This is basic, like when they goout and try to set boundary

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lines in a field for an acreagefor building a house like they
are.
That these are very basictechnology items that have been
around for years.
And

Stoy Hall (22:20):
Who was it who stretched for the first down?
Was it Higgins?

Cole Ingle (22:26):
it was a chief receiver.
Oh, it was Valdez scaling.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (22:29):
Scaling.
So the only reason that workedis because there was a camera on
the PY line straight down theline.
Straight down the first downmarker.
Yeah.
Didn't think got to a call.
I it gotten right there.
I was nothing wrong with that,but you, we have the technology,
just utilize it just make itwhat it is.
And maybe it'll reduce some ofthese ref calls because they're

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not trying to do 17 things.
Maybe they'll get a littlebetter Yeah.
Good luck, sorry I couldn't

Cole Ingle (22:57):
finish that.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, so that's I mean my ratestart the day was just as good
as the second game was.
Again, most of the people that Ihang around or am around on a
consistent basis are Chiefsfans.
Yeah.
So that was a big win from them.
My wife watched in the basement.
I watched upstairs.
I did find myself pullingslightly for the Bengals, but

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simply because.
When it really started was whenthey got the, five Downs and
they brought the entire teamback on the field.
Oh.
And like they show that the, guythat Kemp, the ref, the, I think
he was the back judge.
Yeah.
Come into the play post snap toblow this play dead.
And no one recognizes the guy,no one slows down because of the

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play.
They showed it all 22, nothinghappens.
And yet somehow 45 seconds to aminute later we're taking
another third down Snap.
For the chiefs after the Bengalsjust got off the field because
that ref came in and it was aclock issue.
Now that's fine.
Like I understand the clockissue, either the clock didn't

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stop or didn't start one or

Stoy Hall (24:07):
two.
So, what happened?
Cuz I, I was questioning it.
The penalty only happened thirddown, whatever.
He said on my whistle, the clockwill run in, in 10 seconds and
the play clock will both run.
Correct.
The thing that was incompleteand I was like, that doesn't
make any sense, but fine.
He knows better.
Let's just roll with it.
That was the issue.
He said the clock will run on mywhistle.
When it never should have.
So it took five, it was likefive seconds.

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But the clock

Cole Ingle (24:30):
if, and that's so hard to, so correctly.
So I what he blew the whistlefor wasn't incorrect.
All of what they did was the,problem I have is why, can't you
just add these you're watching,you can add five seconds back to
the game without taking thatplay away.
Because I

Stoy Hall (24:50):
believe it is the, rule of that play never existed.
but that the play never existed.
But it did.
The but it didn't.

Cole Ingle (24:59):
But the play, once the snap goes, the play exists.
My opinion, that guy did notblow the play dead before and
no.
Now if half the team stops, Iget that.
Nobody stopped.
Nobody stopped for the bang.
You No, it was watch the entireplay.
It was a play ball snapped.
Like at that point, we'rewatching the clock, we see that

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five seconds needed to go backon the clock, the play stands
and we're putting five secondsback onto the clock because the,
clock ran.
While the play clock ran from 10to five, the ball was snapped at
five.
So that's five seconds.
Very easy math.
Hey, please reset the game clockto this.
It'll be now, be fort down.
I don't remember if the playwas, I don't remember what the
hell or if he caught it short.

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And all I know is they didn'tget the

Stoy Hall (25:42):
first, but they got the first effection, right?

Cole Ingle (25:44):
Yeah.
So and they end up huntingactually on that drive.

Stoy Hall (25:48):
No they didn't.
So back to that.
Yeah, no they

Cole Ingle (25:50):
didn't.
Yeah, cuz they got, he gotsacked and then it was ended up
being fourth and eight.

Stoy Hall (25:54):
No, he didn't, he got sacked, but it was a penalty on
the defense.
No, I know.
But then after that,

Cole Ingle (25:59):
the next play, they didn't, you're talking about
eventually on the defense.
They didn't give, they didn'tget points on that.
Not in that draft.
But that's the point.
Why didn't it also, why Istarted rooting for the Bengals.
Why

Stoy Hall (26:07):
didn't that's fair.
Why didn't New York why, did notsomewhat buzz in?
I have no idea.
And say you're wrong.
That, see, that's the otherthing of it.
Just buzz down and say

Cole Ingle (26:17):
you're wrong.
Yeah.
So I don't, that's, or the refthat's

Stoy Hall (26:20):
running the clock going away or just the clock.
Wait a minute.
Yeah.
No, this is, wrong.
So

Cole Ingle (26:25):
again ah, there's no perfect answer, but that's the
point that I was like, allright, they're really like,
okay, they're trying to screwthe chiefs over here what's
going on?
The ples, but oh yeah, they'rethe, but at the same point, like
just earlier than that is whenthey made.
they allowed the Bengals not tohave to challenge a play,

(26:45):
correct?
Correct.
That the chief had to challengeearlier and it's just okay, that
doesn't add up either.
No.
No.
So it was just, again, like thefact that we're sitting here
talking about it means that itwas a ref show, which means that
the f the what we got to see onthe field wasn't the top product
because the refs mattered morethan the game.

Stoy Hall (27:05):
It's championship weekend, let them play football.

Cole Ingle (27:09):
And then ultimately, like the end of the game, we're
gonna watch clips.
Clearly in my opinion, you canwatch really slow motion angles,
but that's gonna be a call tolate hit 10 outta 10 times.
I haven't seen that missed.
That's something that they're ona quarterback.

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Yeah.
On Mahomes specifically.
Clearly not running anywhere butout bounds.
Had another defender closer tohim pull off.
Just so many things.
And then you know, what you'regonna get on the other end is
all the things that the chiefsdid wrong holding, et cetera on
that play and other plays whichI don't disagree with.

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But you just hate to see it cometo that.
And, but Kerr absolutely nuttedthat last kick.
Sure did.
In really tough conditions.
And he pimped the shit out ofit.
So kudos to them.
You still gotta make the cake.
Yeah.
You still gotta make the plays.
Just hate to see it in that way.
And again feel, make it feellike the rev show at the end of
the game, but at the end of theday,

Stoy Hall (28:11):
we believe both teams in both games that we're the
better team won.
Yeah.
And we're seeing what we wanna

Cole Ingle (28:15):
watch in the team.
Super bumps.
Yeah.
The teams with

Stoy Hall (28:18):
weaknesses won the game.
If the refs take over the SuperBowl, lose my shit.
Yeah.
So let's just

Cole Ingle (28:25):
let them play.
Hey, just wait till your No Iknow.
That's, I know you

Stoy Hall (28:28):
saw it a teaser.
Yep.
Into why I say that the refswill be involved.
Why would we say that?
I don't know.
Maybe there's a reason.
There's reason shitty shotnumber one.
Ooh, blue raspberry.
Yeah, that'd be delightful.
He's going vodka.
And vodka.
That's, I don't know if that'sactually considered vodka.
This might be considered, yeah.
Just a little core.

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Quick

Cole Ingle (28:49):
recap.
49ers Eagles, two and a half.
46 and a half is where we had'emlast week.
And Stoy and special guest,Andrew were both on the Eagles,
Andrew, and both on the under.
So they both went three and oh,in that I was on the 49ers and

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the under.
So I was one and two in thatunfortunate mishap.
And then Bengals which thisended up flipping all the way to
chiefs.
One and a half to two and a halfeven.
But Bengals were one and a halfpoint favorites.
When we were talking last week,Stoy and I both took Cincinnati.

(29:30):
Andrew took Kansas City and notonly did Andrew take kids Kansas
City, but I would also like topoint out in, kudos to him, he
called it the Mahomes anklegame.
Yep.
And while Mahomes had a coupleof bad throws, Mahomes did throw
for 320 yards.
He did have two more receiversor three receivers go out during
the game.
Yeah.
Three besides Kelsey.

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Basically everybody went out atsome point, maybe Juju Smith,
but he's been no scaling's whothe Yeah.
Scaling actually showed up forhim.
Yes.
Made some good throws, but andthen Mahomes had the whole
scramble for the Yeah.
The game winner basically angleat the end.
So like he really nailed theshit outta that He did.
Other than he had the over inthat Bengals cheese game.

(30:14):
Silly.
The guy had a great guestappearance reminds me a lot of
myself when I first called in.
Yeah, exactly.
And should have remained aguest.
Yeah.
Should remained the guest.
Just kept my guest tag.
But yeah, kudos one.
Kudos to Andrew on that.
in a great five and one week.
Stoy good week overall.
Four and two everything butCincinnati there and obviously

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chiefs went on a game winningfield goal.
I was two and four, had both theunders and didn't pick a team
but yet

Stoy Hall (30:44):
for living on the edge, yeah, so Cole has a, he
had two because we double

Cole Ingle (30:48):
carryover.
We had the carryover.
I'll have my my, my blueraspberry and I'll have my
peppermint.
Here as we continue through theshow.
We are going to jump right intoTwitter news because a lot of
the stuff we are going to startout with specifically is going
to be plays that relate directlyto what we were talking about.

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Some we agree with, some wedisagree with, some that are
gonna show us some differentangles.
Just a little bit ofhighlighting of the game or
games.
Whew.
Say there, I mean there's a lotsay we'll probably have to skip

(31:41):
through quite a bit today, butthe Lane Johnson one I think was
right.
Yeah, I think it's there.
Let's start with that one.
So this is Lane Johnson.
He's playing again, the tackleclosest to us here.
Boom.
He's got halfway back in hisright stance.
And again, if you are a tacklein the NFL and you get to do

(32:04):
that for a pass drop, you aregoing to win.
And Lane Johnson look at thatand people say, oh yeah, they
miss one, sometimes the defenseanticipates jumps off sides.
They don't call it type ofthing.
Perfect snap timing.
Lane Johnson did that.
For a majority of the game andnever got caught.
Look at that, that's, the lefttackle might have even been a

(32:28):
little bit offside.
Correct.
And he was a whole half acount Iand earlier I'm

Stoy Hall (32:31):
okay with left tackle.
Like com in comparison.
Yeah.
That's egregious.
Boom.

Cole Ingle (32:39):
Yeah.
They're both not even remotelyclose now.

Stoy Hall (32:42):
Apparently someone on Twitter had said that there's a
weird thing about the rulesthat, and I'm like, no, there's

Cole Ingle (32:48):
no, there's nothing weird about that rule.
False.
That is a false start.
100% of the time.
False starts.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (32:52):
There's false starts both of them, but Right.
This is

Cole Ingle (32:56):
half like the left tackle I can be okay with just
because like you can say thatmaybe the center, it's like
that, the defensive end thatgets a Yeah.
Right on the like fine.
I would say that he's close, cuzat least at that point, like
Kelsey's moving that wrist.
The right tackle is it's notclose.
No, he's, that is five yardsevery time he

Stoy Hall (33:15):
Lane Johnson is a good two yards behind before.
Yeah.
Anyone

Cole Ingle (33:19):
else?
Look where he is compared to therunning, like where the running
back would mesh.
Like he's at the, he's at thesame blocking point, making
contact with one of the bestpass rushers in football.
I

Stoy Hall (33:31):
really hope we don't, we're not seeing that in the
Super Bowl.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (33:35):
Yeah.
That, that will need to be so

Stoy Hall (33:38):
same game.
This is the angle.

Cole Ingle (33:40):
This is the angle.
It's the third angle we saw onTV of the Devonte Smith drop.
You clearly see the ball hittingthe ground.
Same exact thing happened toscaling in the Eagles or in the
Beales chiefs game.
They got it right in one game,got it wrong in the other one.
It's points on the board,whether it's three points or

(34:01):
seven points.
In that case it was seven pointsand in that case it was fort
down for the Eagles.
So just giving points to theother team.
Absolutely.
And again, oh, you gotta showthe goat.
Oh yeah.
Oh, it So this was this is funnynow.
But 49ers bringing in a QB fortheir injured one.

(34:23):
We, you're gonna go pull'em outand you're just gonna jump right
back.
We're good.
We're good.
We're good.
Shake it off.
Shake it

Stoy Hall (34:30):
off.
We'll be fine.
Whoa, And we're back to here.

Cole Ingle (34:34):
Yes.
Just bad football.
Yes.
Trent Williams.
This

Stoy Hall (34:43):
will be something I will,

Cole Ingle (34:44):
we'll just.
I just so we're getting into it.
The defensive back won't let go.
Trent Williams has had enough atthis point.
Just his season is over and he'sdone with every, he's done with
everybody's crap.
And Trent

Stoy Hall (34:58):
Williams, I like how they like ejected him.
Cool.

Cole Ingle (35:00):
Four minutes left?
I think so.
You think football cities andlike teen, there's certain
teams, Pittsburgh.
Yeah.
Chicago, like teams that arejust have a toughness to'em,
especially like on defense.
But there's certain guys in theNFL that like, you'd like to see
him take on a whole team.
Trent Williams is one of thosedudes.

(35:21):
He's definitely one of thosedudes.
He could just take on a team andI feel like I might feel bad for
the team because he is ready totake on the war.
First of all, he doesn't, hisseason is over, but there's not
one person on the Philadelphiaroster or the whole Philadelphia
roster for that matter, that.
Trent Williams is backing downfrom No.

Stoy Hall (35:43):
So now, and I get it, like the Eagles aren't gonna do
much here because you knowthey're gonna the Super Bowl and
whatnot.
No, but no one really tried tolike it.
That's a couple punches.

Cole Ingle (35:53):
I like that.
42 stood up and gave a shove toanother lineman.
It's dude, you got a death wish.
Yeah.
come on

Stoy Hall (35:59):
bro.

Cole Ingle (36:00):
This was just, yeah you just keep holding on.
They tried to pull him off andhe's no, you're gonna get the
hell out of him.
You're, yeah.
Yeah.
And he got off Purdy's still inthere with his arm in his just
broken arm in heat sleeve.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (36:18):
Oh, that's not the video.
Oh, is this?
Yeah.
Didn't we have

Cole Ingle (36:23):
a video of this?
Yeah.
So this is the play where hegets shoved 89, shoves the guy
into the punter number 24.
This is, he beats him.
There's no way he turns and heshoves him right into the back,
into the kicking leg of thepunter.
The Eagles got a first down onthis play.
You're blocked the 15 yards anda first down.

(36:46):
First of all, he ran into theright leg.
Second of all, he was pusheddirectly into him after the guy
just got smoked by this blockbecause you have to call
something on 89 if you're goingto call something on the 49 er
chair.
This guy didn't willingly runinto the punter.
No.
So there you go.
That's one of the plays whereyou were engaged.
That's seven more points for theeagles for those counting at

(37:08):
home.
That's 14 of their 31 so farthat were given them by the
refs.

Stoy Hall (37:13):
If you were engaged that you can't, you cannot be
penalty.
That's the same thing.
You can't do that.
Yeah.
So whatever whatever.
We'll come back to that.
Let's see if I missed anything.

Cole Ingle (37:51):
All right, get started on these.
So this is the the big play endof the game.
So a lot of people are callingfor a hold on 91, which the hold
on, 91 I would argue happenseach play.
I don't think Hendrickson did agreat job of selling the hold
and or like fighting off theblock.

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Cuz the big thing I have withthis is that 57 has good inside
leverage and is never beatcorrect.
And so like you're very rarelygonna get holding the bigger
hold is on 65 here.
When.
You hook right when you hookthere and hold a guy by his arm
or helmet when you are clearlybeat right now.

(38:33):
Yeah, that's holding.
And that's the guy that allowshim to get outta the pocket.
And the bigger problem I havewith this is earlier in the
game, Chris Jones gets doubleteamed, splits the double team,
and the double team immediatelygoes and does exactly what this
guy gets.
The Bengals get a 1520 yard playfor it.

(38:54):
Get called for holding.
Yeah.
And I'm like, yeah, that'sholding, like Chris Jones
dominated that double team andone of the guys held like that
is what it is.
That's also holding, like yougotta call, holding in the
biggest minutes.
This is one of the moredisappointing ones.
This was one against the chiefs.
They didn't let the big mancelebrate.
He probably had a good block onthat play.
Maybe a pancake, right?
He gets called for taunting,come on the very weak dog, not

(39:18):
the big guy.
Dance a little like if.
I don't know who 94 is, but if94 would've got a sack on that
play, you know what?
He would've done some type ofsack dance let the offensive in.
Have a little fun.
I'm not fun.
What a terrible celebrationthough.
So an awful celebration.
Maybe give him flag for that,what you'd expect off of a,

(39:41):
white, white guy celebration.
But here it is.

Stoy Hall (39:43):
This

Cole Ingle (39:44):
is the, this, so this is the gunner, this is the
bad one on the punt that, thatset up the final play.
So this is the gunner that thisis the first of two terribly
missed calls.
So 23 gets beat.
Six is beat by one of thebullets, 47 as they call them or
whatever, 17, whatever.

(40:04):
Yeah.
So 17 wins against both of themand then just gets shoved in the
back by 23.
So there's, a first fight.
Now, always he

Stoy Hall (40:10):
shoved I'm, this may be a hold right there, right?
So six is

Cole Ingle (40:13):
holding onto him while he gets shoved.
So there's block in the back,number one.
So remember that that one didn'tget called obviously.
this,

Stoy Hall (40:22):
is this the one that shows it?
Oh, this is the longer one.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (40:24):
So now, oh, it happens right away.
Right here.
47 is gonna run up and 47 ifhe's smart, stops and turns
around.
However, there's a slow slowmoversion of this play because it,

(40:45):
it looks in real time.
I saw this and texted youimmediately, right?
I said block in the back on 47.
That's coming back.
And then the play, do we have aslowmo of that one?
Yeah, it's down.
I didn't find it until later on.
It's one of the, probably lasthandful of plays that I have.

(41:10):
Yeah, right here, So this is theother angle.
So 85 s in great blockingposition.
Here comes 47.
Watch this guy go forward.
Oh, with a knee in the right, inthe middle of his back.
Oh, who's going down thesideline?

(41:31):
So mind you, during this playyou had 23, the gunner beat.
Two guys down the sideline, getshoved in the back and not
flagged.
And then at the point of tackleyou have 47 shove.
The other contained man on thepunt return.
So if you throw the flag on thereturn, it's 10 yards from, I

(41:54):
don't know if it's from the spotof the catch or how that if you
throw this flag, it's 10 yardsfrom there.
The spot of the foul.
So like best case scenario, thischiefs are starting this drive
from like the 18 yard line.
Instead they started it from the40.
Just a game changer.
Just two absolutely Gamechanger.
Two really blatant calls that Ithink were more blatant than

(42:15):
anything that happened even onthe last play where the chiefs
get called for.
Or the Bengals get called forthe late hit out of bounds,
which again, I agreed with just

Stoy Hall (42:23):
for feel free, like we're not gonna show that one
cuz it is what?
It's this one.

Cole Ingle (42:26):
However, this is earlier in the game.
A, nothing play.
And let me be very clear.
He sold it.
I don't want to see a flag onthis play.
No, but if you're gonna calllate, hit out of bounds and bear
call late, hit on thequarterback and you gotta call a
late hit on the quarterback.
1, 2, 3 min minutes left arm tothe shoulder and no was anyone

(42:51):
in danger of getting hurt there?
No.
Absolutely not.
Could, but,

Stoy Hall (42:54):
could bro just stood there and not got shot.
You can't, to the ground debat.

Cole Ingle (42:58):
My opinion, like you can't, you have to call that.
That's a dumb, like if you wantto tell me how dumb the play
Yeah.
By OSI was Yeah.
Then tell me how dumb the playby Clark is.
Yep.
Because there's absolutely noreason in the NFL today when you
know how soft they are onthrowing flags on quarterbacks
that this isn't gonna getcalled, first of all.
And second of all, that youaren't just a dip shit for

(43:20):
throwing a, an arm at a guy forno reason.
Correct.
And it went uncalled and again,do I want to see a flag on that?
No.
But we have to have someconsistency at some point.
And you can't decide when youwant to decide football games
and when you don't.
Yeah.
And that's just call

Stoy Hall (43:39):
it's issue.
And as, and that's as playersand coaches, that's all we want.
Yeah.
Just call it the same always.
So we know.
What you're doing is, you'reruining a lot of things.
Just ruin a lot of things there.

Cole Ingle (43:53):
So tho those were the big plays.
Yeah.
I think from both of thosegames, again, that were just
super irritating and just needto be taken out of the game.
We did have big coaching newsover the last few days in the
nfl.
Do you wanna jump into that?
Yeah, I'm looking for him.
Okay.

Stoy Hall (44:17):
A little

Cole Ingle (44:18):
kid.
Yeah.
So the fir biggest one guess inmy opinion is Sean Payton going
to New Orleans or going from NewOrleans to den to the Broncos.
Excuse me.
He Bronco country.
Let's ride.

(44:38):
Let's ride.
No, that is not actually Sean,that is not Shane.
Sean Payton.
Thank you.
Looks like it.
We do know That's Kevin James.
I don't know.
We

Stoy Hall (44:45):
actually have, I

Cole Ingle (44:46):
think that's what you, no, that's what it's,
that's the only one I put inthere.
Yep.
But anyways, I purposely didn'tput another one in.

Stoy Hall (44:51):
Sean Payton is going to be your new head coach for
Bronco's country.

Cole Ingle (44:55):
Yeah.
And you were telling me thedetails.

Stoy Hall (44:58):
Yep.
Details are our first rounder2023.
So bye-bye.
Bronco's.
First rounder going to theSaints.
I don't really love that.
Cuz it helps the saints.
And then also I think it's a midrounder, so like a second or a
third, I believe.
Late second, early third forthis year as well, for next
year.
Okay.
For 2024.
And then the Saints will begiving a pick as well.

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Years has not

Cole Ingle (45:22):
been, so essentially said Bronco's.
Get a head coach for a firstround pick.
Yeah

Stoy Hall (45:29):
Let's just boil that down.
Yeah.
Okay.
They got a first round.
They give up a first round forher head coach.
Okay.
With the team that isdefensively, they're fine,
right?
The offense is an issue now.
Fun thing you didn't know is.
Prior to that, damico Ryansdefense coordinator for the
Niners.
Signed a six year deal with theTexans.

(45:49):
Correct.
The Broncos had swooned awayhim.
He, they were working on a dealwith him at the Broncos, and he
said, Nope.
And recommitted to the Texans.
Okay.
So the Broncos went back to,

Cole Ingle (46:03):
to get Sean.
Okay.
I did see that.
Now, Brian said, no.
My question to the Broncos, myquestion there is what the

Stoy Hall (46:09):
timeline on that was?
How was how was Sean the backupin that situation?
And, I don't mean that becauseSean Peyton's a better coach
than Tamco Ryans.
Although let's be real.
Bruce proofs in the pudding.
Yeah.
But your defense isn't theissue, right?
This is what I was getting at.
Yeah.
Your defense isn't the issue.
Hundred percent.
Your offense is clearly anissue.

(46:30):
Yeah.
So why wouldn't you go get anoffer to mind coach Sean Peyton,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
So that I was like, shouldn't itbe the other way around?
Yeah.
But it wasn't.
So Sean Peyton's,

Cole Ingle (46:37):
but was he first.
and then they didn't, maybe theydidn't want to give up a first
round pick, so they're like,Hey, if we can get Deco Ryan's,
we'll never know.
But that's my thought process islet's give up last less,
although, and let's keep ourdefense really good.
I Dennis, let's bring in anoffensive mind, but your

Stoy Hall (46:57):
defense around and you have your deans coordinator

Cole Ingle (47:00):
don't disagree, but he's not gonna be the head
coach.
No, but he's gonna

Stoy Hall (47:02):
be the defense coordinator.
I don't.
And now you have Sean Peyton.
So I think

Cole Ingle (47:06):
the bro 49ers had a pretty decent defense.
So I don't think the Broncoswere in danger of going,

Stoy Hall (47:12):
no, they're not gonna get worse.
And that was my point.
Your defense is not gettingworse.
It can get better, but youroffense definitely

71 Audio Only (47:19):
can

Cole Ingle (47:19):
take, but it just shows you how much Harbaugh was
continuing even after he said hewas going back to Michigan.
people can the NFL continue togo, guys.
Continued to go pursue Harbaughin a great, I think a great

Stoy Hall (47:32):
spot for Peyton.
I think it's a great spot forthe Broncos.
Yeah.
It's gonna work out very, well.
Damico two.
The Texans, I don't love it forhim because of the historically
bad ownership when it comes tocoaches, but I

Cole Ingle (47:48):
do like the pieces they

Stoy Hall (47:50):
have there, but I like the pieces they have there.
I just, it's gonna be a toughspot.
For your first spot.
That's my thing.
But he's playing in the rightdivision, but he is playing in
the right division and he'sgonna bring some nastiness to
that defense.
So I do like it for him.
I just, I don't love it.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't love it.
I, do love that for the Broncosthough.

(48:10):
Good for them.
I'll

Cole Ingle (48:11):
probably put, I've seen worse guys put in worse
spots very recently when itcomes to that.
Rolling.

Stoy Hall (48:18):
Alright.
Should we tease into, What'snext?
Hey, if you, Hey, did you knowdid you know let's,

Cole Ingle (48:25):
did you know, let's wait real quick.
Helen Moore.
Oh, we have into that one.
Who, the Cowboys decided was nolonger going to be their
offensive coordinator cuz he wasthe problem.
In Dallas very quickly reboundedand is now now going to be the
offensive coordinator of the LosAngeles Chargers.

(48:47):
And he gets to upgrade from Dakto Herbert and gets to have, the
toys to play with there.
Whether it be Herbert Eckleryou've got, is it Mike Jones or,
yeah, and Keenan Allen.

(49:10):
So he's got some, good toysthere in.
Los Angeles and I think landedwell as I think everyone
expected that he was gonna getit a good job.
Whether it be a, head coachingopportunity or an offensive
coordinator job.
I think he's, why

Stoy Hall (49:29):
Is, McCarthy taking over now?

Cole Ingle (49:32):
No I just think a terrible idea too.
They were gonna do something.
They had to blame somebody inDallas.
Yeah.
Some student and yeah, I think Ithink he had interviewed for
what, a couple head coachingjobs.
So I think was it a distractionthing?
Was it time for something newthere?
I don't know.
You can call whatever youwanted.

(49:52):
Ultimately, he didn't perform.
or Dak didn't perform however,that didn't work.

Stoy Hall (49:59):
I also don't know how much McCarthy is involved with
IT Games.
Yeah.
Because he's an offense

Cole Ingle (50:04):
coordinator, I don't know that he's gonna go what do
you think he's gonna go back tocalling plays?
Sometimes I'm like, Hey, I don'tlet's put it on him and

Stoy Hall (50:12):
With you with the Cowboys, which I, this is why
Yeah.
I never know with your team everof anything that's going on cuz
your owner is a psychopath,right?
So how much is Jerry Jonesinvolved with all of this?
I have no clue.
100% involved, which makes it sotough to be like, how do you
judge

Cole Ingle (50:27):
any of your coaches?
I mean 100% he was involved.
Now was he involved did McCarthysay something to him and
therefore they decided that moreneeded to go because McCarthy
wasn't going to go Jerry'sbacked McCarthy a long time.
And at some point the, any coachthat comes into Dallas is going

(50:47):
to.
Neil to Jerry in some way thatof most coaches aren't going to
do that to their, oh, old is he90 something?
Yeah.
He's not 90.
He's only like late seventies.
God, he's gone maybe earlyeighties.
I don't know.
Regardless.
Yeah, he's he's what's holdingthe franchise back more than,
anything in my opinion.
But he is the owner, so they arethe most profitable team in all

(51:11):
of sports.
So good for them good for them.
I thought he doesn't on fieldwant to win, but does he?
No, I think he absolutely wantsto win.
I just think that he's hisowners.
Enemy when it comes to that.
That he wants to be the reasonwhy they're winning as well.
So yeah,

Stoy Hall (51:26):
absolutely.
Okay.
Now can we finally get to it?
Let's get to the, because it'sgolf season, g o Oh, golf's golf
Just for this week, and thenwe're gonna get back to
football.
Yeah.
Then, and then we'll go to

Cole Ingle (51:37):
full golf.
So it's a little tease.
Dive into some basketball andthen back golf.
And

Stoy Hall (51:41):
we don't get play golf for another three

Cole Ingle (51:42):
months.
Oh.
You gotta go inside if we'relucky.
You gotta go

Stoy Hall (51:44):
inside here.
I still have not swung a golfclub since outside.
It's only your fault.
It's your fault.

Cole Ingle (51:49):
Yeah, I it is.
Yeah.
Nobody's swing that golf clubfor you.
Not like you invite

Stoy Hall (51:53):
me.
So there's what, I

Cole Ingle (51:54):
haven't been that much

Stoy Hall (51:56):
so it's your own fault.
It's golf season if you guysknew this.
Lot things going on.
But we're gonna

Cole Ingle (52:03):
a lot of chippiness in the, golf off season this
year.

Stoy Hall (52:06):
Yeah.
We're gonna lead with that.
Obviously.
We're gonna get to pebble.
Okay.
But until before then, yeah.
We're going to lead off with ourguy Phil, by the way, golf's
coming back are Phil.
Real.
Yeah.
Is popping back up a little morehits now?
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's get Phil back outthere.

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All right.

Cole Ingle (52:28):
Wait do we need to set the stage for this?
Do we have the, do we have the tflick?

Stoy Hall (52:34):
Yeah, but it's not easily, yeah

Cole Ingle (52:36):
So like available last week you're tour, we talked
about it.
So DP World Tour, that's when,that's where Patrick Reed flips
the t at Roy McElroy.
Basically Roy ignored him on therange.
Reid had a t with his live teamname on it.

(52:57):
The old brotherly love flick ofthe tea back towards Rory.
Neither one of them likes eachother.
Patrick Reed has filed lawsuitsand then wants to play the, he
has subpoenaed, basically

Stoy Hall (53:12):
everyone.
Yeah he tried to get Tiger, just

Cole Ingle (53:14):
a big baby, and then Tiger just team complaints about
it afterwards.
So the whole thing.
But Phil had a comment thatwe're gonna go into here on that
whole situation.
And then we've just got somemore Phil news Yeah.
As well.
So here's

Stoy Hall (53:29):
Phil.
I thought it was a, it was greatfor the game.
When you have controversy in thegame, I think it creates a lot
of, a lot more excitement and alot more awareness.
What transpired early in theweek with Patrick and Rory added
the excitement, added to theexcitement level.
Yeah.
What do you, feel about hisquote?

Cole Ingle (53:48):
Yeah, absolutely.
Like it's just a little banterback and forth.
Like the whole Bengals burrowhead Kelsey reaction after the
game.
It's not burrow head, it'sMahomes ho house that, that type
of thing told Amer to shut upand Noah role hell any whether
it's football, baseball,basketball, it doesn't matter.

(54:08):
Like you just don't see it asmuch in golf.
With getting more behi behindthe scenes looks golf becoming
more and more transparent.
trying to play to the, newergeneration.
Absolutely.
Can't disagree with the quoteNo.

Stoy Hall (54:22):
At all.
No, not at all.
The only thing I, don't likeabout the situation is all the
damn subpoenas that t reads doand that don't be a douche that
way.
Okay.
The t thing.
Fine.
That's funny.
Absolutely.
And by the way, he still didn'tpick it up or look at you, so
I'm just saying p Reid do you,you might wanna

Cole Ingle (54:39):
also figure out Rory finished off the tournament
playing in the same final groupas Reid and hit a mid-range putt
to seal the deal on the finalhole.
He beat him 1900 to 1800, sothey finished one two in the
tournament to make it all thesweeter for Yeah.
For Rory.
Just to make it all better to,to finish it off.

(55:00):
So

Stoy Hall (55:01):
to be fair though if, and we're gonna, obviously we're
gonna start betting on golfmore.
Yeah.
If I was to put my money betweentwo players, I would've, I would
not put it on P Reed.
No, it would not have been inclose.
So just say it.
The

Cole Ingle (55:14):
one thing the dude has proved over time is that
like, When it comes to Rydercups clutch time, stuff like
that, he'll step up.
He does usually deliver.
Yeah.
It's just the other cup thriveson that.
But he also thrives on being adouchebag.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (55:26):
Yeah.
He's just a douchebag.
Yeah.
He, actually and I've said it onthis, on the pod before, is he
has the punch me face.
Yeah.
There's people in the world thatlook, when you look at him, you
just wanna punch him in theface.
To me, that's pere like that.
He just, whatever I'd punch himin the face.
Yeah, that's right.
Alright.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Phil, he tweeted this himself.

(55:48):
Yeah.
The tour doesn't allow shorts,but does allow this week's
leader to wear joggers withankle socks showing four inches
of ankle.
I'm not a fashion guy, neverwill be.
But there are some things Iwon't ever understand, so don't,
worry about it.
We found it.
Yeah.
and I don't know who group chat,golf.

(56:10):
Shout out to you.
Good response.
But this great.
Yeah.
If this is four inches, thenguys everywhere are celebrating
today.
Very generous of you.
Yes.
And to be fair, that's not fourinches, also

Cole Ingle (56:19):
not four inches.
But also, I cannot disagree withPhil's take.
No

Stoy Hall (56:25):
Those aren't payments.
Like it's

Cole Ingle (56:26):
one thing for that to go to, down to the edge of
the sock or something like that.
Like that I get That's the Eurostyle is the euro, like that
Euro style.
But those are even short forEuro standards, in my

Stoy Hall (56:39):
opinion.
And anymore we'll see if that'sthe new new tick of the

Cole Ingle (56:42):
year.
Yeah.
Not a, I don't know, whatever.
Not a great look.
But Sam Rider also didn'tdeliver on Sunday, so kinda shit
the bad.

Stoy Hall (56:54):
We've seen that's a theme this year.
Yeah.
By the way.
Yeah.
With players who havelegitimately finished

Cole Ingle (57:00):
People, not closing well, so I,

Stoy Hall (57:04):
yeah.
I, want someone to put thistogether for us, though.
when you sent this and I, I havealready seen it, but like that
just, that's Brady.
It looks like the same shit thathappened with Brady of lost a
whole bunch of weight, just awhole bunch of weight and like
it didn't work out well forBrady.
I just want everyone to knowthat sunk in everything sunk in

(57:24):
and Phil's saying this is, he'sdown to his college weight.
I don't know if that's good.
And then here's some side byside three months apart.

Cole Ingle (57:32):
Yeah.
And like Phil's whole diet, likewhen he started losing the
weight was like that wholeeither coffee or tea thing where
he like basically starvedhimself all day and then we're
weak and then and so to me, thisis what happens to your body
after you continue to dosomething like that, your eyes
start bugging out and you're,he's obviously, in my opinion,

(57:56):
maybe he's doing well nowmentally, but gone through a lot
of shit.
Gone through a lot of stress.
Yes.
And it seems to me that his faceis showing that correct now,
great.
That he's down to college weightand stuff like that.
So there's hopefully somebenefits to his health there.
But again, like on the surfaceit looks like it's been more

(58:20):
detrimental to his healthoverall than we shall, but he's
expecting to have a good year.
Said he, his body feels good andthat he's in a good spot.
So all I'm

Stoy Hall (58:32):
saying, all I'm saying is Brady went through
this and all of a sudden he wentshitty.
Yeah.
Golfers who lose a bunch ofweight really doesn't help you
hit the ball with ma.
You don't have your maskanymore.
Phil was a feel player.
That's almost tough to say.
Yeah.
Phil's a feel player.
Phil feeler a feeler.

(58:53):
Yeah.
And when you change your bodycomp, he says he's swinging
better and all that.
Okay.
I'm just saying a hundredpercent.
I won't be tracking him, by theway, so it doesn't matter.
No, because he's definitely noton the tour that I watch that's
all

Cole Ingle (59:07):
right.
You can get him on the cw.
The what?
Yeah, exactly.

Stoy Hall (59:11):
All right.
So there it is.
We're back.

Cole Ingle (59:14):
We're back.
Max Homa was a winner last week.
Homa,

Stoy Hall (59:20):
did you brought from Pie Back?
I didn't.
Why didn't I send that clip?
The clip that they interviewedhim going down the fairway.
Yeah, they're starting to dothat more now, like the Euros

Cole Ingle (59:29):
have been doing for, so he the ever the first one on
the PGA tour Live match, liveround, yeah.
To be interviewed at basicallyas he's playing his ball, so
hits off the key.
He was, he's wearing an earpiecethe entire time, or like a
Bluetooth headset or whatever.
Just like what we've seen in thematch and stuff like that.

(59:51):
So he walks down the par five,talks about what he wants to do
on his next shot, which he,doesn't end up doing actually.
Hits his next ball, actuallyinto the side of a big ass bank
with a sand bunker and somereally shitty, rough, basically
where he said he didn't want togo and he finds Yeah, the place

(01:00:13):
he was avoiding, he finds hisball, marks it with a t, makes a
snide comment basicallyinvolving Patrick Reed cuz it,
his ball ends up being embedded.
Yeah.
They've gotten a lot of rainthere and stuff like that.
So the ruff was really gnarly asa rules of official come check

(01:00:34):
it out.
Rules of official said yes, it'sembedded.
You can take a drop.
So they go through that, wholething while he's talking, talks
through the next shot andfinishes the hole with him.
Talks about how he was tiredfrom climbing up the Bunker
Hill.
So like just a very.
you and I out on the golf coursetype of conversation.

(01:00:56):
Very humanizing.
Saw him hit a, couple of shittyshots and proved that you can
still do that type of stuff andwin a golf tournament.
So it was just cool to ski.
It was that was on, I think thatwas on

71 Audio Only (01:01:09):
Saturday.

Stoy Hall (01:01:10):
Yeah.
I, think we'll see more of it.
I want to see more of it.
Yeah.
Do I want it on every one ofthem?
Every, no, I don't think itneeds to be everybody.
But tune in every now and againcuz it's a lot better than those
announcers.
And what I like the most aboutit is you get to see, cuz
usually we cut from a shot to ashot, to announcers, to a

(01:01:30):
commercial.
That's all you never get to seethem walking around what is
going on from behind the scenes.
And that's really cool to seeevery now and again.

Cole Ingle (01:01:39):
Yeah.
And cuz he was waiting on thepar five to get his second shot.
And so they literally asked himlike, Hey, what do you think
about in these moments?
And he is think about having acool accent.
Accent.
I think about this think aboutwhat I'm gonna eat.
I think about what I'm gonna dowith my kid later.
Like just very, again,humanizing very good
conversation.
Home is one of the best when itcomes to social media, if not

(01:02:00):
the best.
Oh, he's hilarious.
Just as far as being open, beinga guy that doesn't take the game
too seriously.
But at the same point when theyasked him, they're like, and
he's in the next 30 seconds upto leading up to my shot I'm
gonna focus in on my shot.
No, you're not gonna talk to me.
We can do that.
Like, where he can separate gameand personal, there's some guys

(01:02:24):
that can't, there's some guysthat you know, like they're not
gonna be the guys we give themics to on the course, and those
are gonna be your old guard typeof guys.
And that's fine.
Not, we're not asking every PGAtour or player out there to do
this.
No.
To do it.
But the guys that arecomfortable doing it, let's do
it.
Yeah.
And let's get an inside look atit.
I honestly like Tiger in hisprime.

(01:02:47):
His dad would not in a millionyears have ever allowed him
someone to put a microphone oranything near him, anywhere near
him.
No.
And so some of that I think isjust the old, guard, new guard
thing.
Tiger.
Now Tech will do it and he willdo it.
He'll do it now.
He'll do it now.
But like never in a millionyears.
Now it wouldn't have been athing then, but there still
would've been guys like JohnDaley.
You could have done that two atany time.

(01:03:09):
Oh, there's just certainplayers.
Could you imagine?
They would've been just imagine,that they would've been okay
doing it.
And then there's certain playersthat like just wouldn't, which
is fine.
And, that's, but it needs,that's good happen.
But it's just weird that Tigeris, would've so much been not
the guy in his prime and wouldbe now.
And now he's going to.

(01:03:30):
So I assume we'll hear fromJordan.
Assume we're here, from Rory.
Tiger.
Guys like that.
I

Stoy Hall (01:03:37):
bet Tiger.
The first one they do is atAugusta.
Didn't see unless Augusta saysno

to doing it, which they could as well.
But definitely something to lookforward to.
But is golf.

Stoy Hall (01:03:48):
Yeah.
Getting back into it.
So I gotta go swing.
But that's it.
Golf's coming.
And that's what we're gonna getinto.
I'm gonna get a refill cuz Iwant it and I need it.
Need it while you pull up the doyou need help?
Yep.
Or do you need help with that?
Yeah.

Shit.

Stoy Hall (01:04:11):
Maybe.
So football's done, baby.

It's a sad day.
I had to call my wife, have hercome open this for me.

Stoy Hall (01:04:32):
You need to figure that shit out.
Just walk away.

Just walk away, bro.
Your teeth,

Stoy Hall (01:04:38):
ie.
The glass off and chug it.
I don't

light fence.
There's some residue on there.
You can definitely tell.
Oh yeah, I have seal in there.
Yeah.
I don't know what the residueis.
They glued some bullshit just tofuck with

Stoy Hall (01:05:09):
you.
All right.
So what we will do going forwardis you're gonna get that sheet.
And you're gonna get details.
And we're gonna make a, thingwith Bob.
Ooh.
A singer, majig.
And that way we'll, post it upthere.

(01:05:30):
As we talk through this, you'llbe able to see exactly what the
hell we're talking about.
And go through it.
And, to let you know.
So go back to overall standings.
Let's new season.
Okay.
We do have to agree onto somerules that we ran into last
year.
Hey so we just need to verify inthat you all hear us and we can

(01:05:51):
record it because someone of us,just one of us likes to not
agree to things that we agreedto.
Hey.
And throw fights about themlater.
I don't know about it.
Whatever.
We are

going to do Ryan.
Ryan.

Stoy Hall (01:06:06):
Ryan.
Damn.
Ryan.
We do an overall points for thisseason.
Yep.
Winner of each category, andwe'll get through the categories
as we go, but winner of eachcategory receives three points.
There's only.
Two of us.
So we're gonna go three and one,right?
If we tie, guess what, we bothget those points.
If you miss a cut on allcategories outside of the player

(01:06:30):
to fade, you get zero points.
Now you do have, if your playerto fade wins shitty shot.
Okay.
Yeah.
You get extra points if you havean outright winner.
So we choose outright winner oneand dones top 40 black stallion,

(01:06:53):
which is 500 to one odds orgreater.
And then we do player to fade.
So the one that you think isgonna do worse that week and
their best and hopefully thebest fade.
Yep, you get extra points ifoutright, outright winner wins.
Yep.
Get extra five points if yourplayer to fade is really good
and decides to win thetournament.

(01:07:15):
Just happened.
Yeah.
You lose five points.
Okay.
So shitty shots.
How do we earn them?
The two that are always gonna bethere or outright renter if they
miss the cut shitty shotautomatically.
Yeah.
For anybody.
Could be both of us.
And if your fade wins, alsoautomatic shitty shot.

(01:07:36):
Yeah.
We will also have side betsperiodically.
It happened a lot last season.
And then so last year we hadthis situation and we were
talking through it about, soyou're outright, winner.
I can't say that really easy foryou to say

it.
Jesus.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:07:56):
The guy who wins, fill the killer out.
I could say that.
Whatever.
Yep.
Is a he misses cut.
It's a shitty shot.
But what about your one anddone?
That was an argument you had.
Was, should your one and doneAlso, if they miss a cut, be a
shitty shot.

You don't want'em to miss the cut.
But we already have a lot ofshitty shots, so I don't know
that it's necessary.
I agreed.
I think if, either one hits,it's one if both hit, it's still
one

Stoy Hall (01:08:31):
so no.
Okay.

But you tell me.

Stoy Hall (01:08:37):
All, I'm saying is your fade to win doesn't happen
that often.
So that one is rarity.
Yeah.
So really you only have one aweek.
Unless we up our side, I mean wedo get aggressive with side
beds.
No,

we golf, we're always aggressing with So we're
good with those.
Yeah.
Okay.

Stoy Hall (01:08:52):
Automatic she shots outright.
Winner miscut, shitty shot.
Your fade wins.
Shitty shot.
And then our side bats, sidebuttons.
Cause we always have at leasttwo of those.
Yes.

It's aggressive, seemingly

Stoy Hall (01:09:06):
NuLu.
New little spin I wanted to addto you was Yep.
Season total.
So we just did it.
for shits and gigs.
What about this year?
The winner gets to choose thecharity that the Loser donates
to.

Okay.
The board for that.
What are we, doing?
Do we wanna do like weekly pot?
We do

Stoy Hall (01:09:27):
weekly Pot.
So then we do

A and so then it just grows.
Like we each have,

Stoy Hall (01:09:33):
like I said, we set a number.
And if you lose, then we're,instead of season points, we're
tracking,

we're doing season, charity season totals, season
charity dollars.
So whether it's five bucks aweek, whatever whatever we want
to do I can get on board forthat.
And then a season point winner,that's 20 more dollars to the
pot.
Yeah.
Or whatever it is.
Yeah.
I like that.

Stoy Hall (01:09:54):
You like that?
Yeah.
I don't know how many weeksthere.
I don't remember a

lot.
It's called, it goes on for awhile.

Stoy Hall (01:09:59):
Was there 20?
This's two, five bucks cuz itends up, it's

gotta be around a hundred right?
Five bucks a week.
And then$20.
pot sweetener.
Yeah.
At the end of the year.
Absolutely.
I like it.
Everybody wants I like it,everybody.
I already know my charity, sothat's good.
I'm the treasurer so I mightswitch

Stoy Hall (01:10:17):
up charity.
Yeah, that's fair.
Huh?
May maybe sprinkle wrap.
Yeah.
There we go.
All right.
So there it is.
All right.

Let's Very good pep bull jump in.
So fun week that we happen to bestarting this year again.
There's already been a fewtournaments to start the year,
but the Pebble Beach ProAm andtournament is this week pebble

(01:10:43):
Beach, California.
Big things to watch this weekare the problem itself.
Had a note here.
Notable NFL slash X NFL playersplaying in the ProAm this week,
this year.
Josh Allen, who is skipping thepro.

(01:11:04):
He's skipping the Pro Bowl.
Skipping the Pro Bowl.
Yep.
Go play, which we really didn'ttalk about the Pro Bowl that
much.
We can maybe hit on that alittle bit after golf, but yeah,
maybe.
Yeah.
There's some fun changes to thePro Bowl

Stoy Hall (01:11:16):
stuff that should play.
It'd be definitely, we'llhopefully get a bunch of clips
cuz it's tough to Yeah.
Some things we just don't knowyet, right?
We don't

know yet.
So yeah, we, maybe we will justhit on it next week after it
happens, but yeah.
Josh Allen said no to the ProBowl.
Tyler Huntley of the BaltimoreRavens Yes.
That Tyler Huntley is a ProBowl.
Can someone explain that to me?
No just everybody else said, no,I'm not diving into the weeds on
that.
So there's a reason why Pro Bowlhas been written out of people's

(01:11:43):
contracts and it's, you gottamake all pro different because
of that different vote becauseof that shit.
Larry Fitz.
Aaron Rodgers, Steve Young, andAlex Smith.
Either former N F NFL or currentn f L players playing in Love
it.
The celebrity Pro am this weekat Pebble Beach.

(01:12:04):
So that will be fun to watch.
Decent field overall but not italways is a not a strong field.
You're definitely gonna see somenames that got, but

Stoy Hall (01:12:21):
Fitzpatrick Ho Hoveland spe Mcneley Power Hogue
Putnam.
Kucher.
Mitchells you're getting, andthen you're start,

then it's you got five, what I would say five
notable names there this week,

Stoy Hall (01:12:39):
but I think the Pebble's been dying 5, 6, 5, 6
years.
Just the strength of the fieldhas gone down.

You you have the rules now where.
you do have to rotate within thetour and make sure that you're
playing all of these events.
So it's one where guys willstart the swing.
And this will be an event thatthey maybe don't play next week.
You've got the Phoenix Openwhich is a huge event.
Guys love to play.
That's a big deal.
And there's a hand, most of theyoung guns love to play in that

(01:13:11):
event.
Now some of the old guardprobably not as much so you'll
see a little switch there, butmost of the pop, there's big
popularity in the, Phoenix Opennext week.
Not to mention it's gonna beheld at the same time in the
same city as the Super Bowl.
It's going to, I told my wifeEpic of last night, before, if I

(01:13:32):
had too much money, too muchtime, there would be one place I
would be for a full week.
I would have already been on aplane.
two Phoenix would be Oh yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:13:46):
Cuz I'm playing camping out courses all this
week

in playing.
So I would've played yesterday.
I would've left on Sunday, gotthere, got settled in.
I would've played Monday, Iwould've played all day Tuesday.
So two different courses,probably maybe four different
courses even.
Just depending, yeah.
On what I could get on.
Tomorrow I would be walking, Isay tomorrow, this would be all,
it'd be next weekend.
I would get there on Monday,Tuesday.
Yeah.
Wednesday I would walk thecourse with the players at the

(01:14:12):
Phoenix Open, get to seeeverybody take that all in
Thursday, Friday I would be inthe stadium walking around.
And then in the stadiumSaturday, depending on what's
available, I would probably golfagain at some point, either

(01:14:32):
Friday or Saturday.
One of the two maybe flip flopthat.
They also have concerts afterthese, after this event.
And then Sunday I would want tobe there for the golf and then I
would have myself ushered fromthe golf course watching the
final to the Super Bowl to thesuite.
Cuz I have an endless amount ofmoney at this point.
Yeah.
And an endless way of being ableto get places.

(01:14:55):
And then I would also spendMonday there golfing.
So it'd be just a full week.
But she kinda looked at me and Iwas just like, no.
That would be like one of thedreamiest weeks ever.
Of ev of her like for mypassions, just to align my
passion bucket to steal one fromDP show.
Yeah.
My passion bucket would be full.

(01:15:15):
That would be pretty last

Stoy Hall (01:15:17):
year.
Amazing.
Last year this was all, a weekearlier.
It was this week, it was my, itwas Super Bowl Sunday on my
birthday with that.
That would've been the week tohave it like just birthday,
super Bowl and, oh yeah, PhoenixOpen, let's go.

(01:15:38):
Let's do it.
But yeah, no, I definitely wannaget down there.
It's always Phoenix is alwaysgonna be around my birthday, so
it was a Super Bowl, so I'malways down.
That'd be a fun one.
Yep.
That'd be a fun one.
But yeah, it's could be.
Now that we're on to Phoenix andI have back

to Pebble again.
Got, I've got ins for ticketsback to Pebble no no reason not
to.
Yeah, so quick weather.
Not gonna do really too much ofa course.
Breakdown.
Quick yardage breakdown PGANational Champions Course, Palm

(01:16:15):
Beach Gardens, 7,150 yards par70.
That's

Stoy Hall (01:16:20):
not the right breakdown buddy.
No different course.
No, it's not.
I didn't type any of that in.
Oh no, that's just fromleftover.
Oh, I didn't delete it.
So PJ is not Pebble for thosethat are Oh, that is, yeah.
Sorry.
My bad.
It's okay.
It's it's early.
It's been, yeah.

(01:16:41):
Who puts in here?
I just copy and pasted it fromYeah, I see that now.
We just never

did.
That's all good.
Yeah, that's not Pebble Beach.
Regardless, hence reason I

Stoy Hall (01:16:50):
said you need to take notes.

Yeah, take notes.
I just looked at the weather.
Friday.
Let's go with the weather.
Aren't know.
Shit.
Thursday through Sunday gonna besomewhere between 57 to 60
degrees.
Chance of rain on Friday for acouple hours.
Chance of rain on Sunday for acouple hours.
No storm systems, any wind.
Wind.
What's the wind top?
It's like Friday.
Top wind I saw was.

(01:17:13):
12 to 14.
That's gusting, but mostly fiveto seven.
Ah, I don't really see any damnconditions that are going to,

Stoy Hall (01:17:21):
damn.
Just gonna be just to gettable

conditions.
Yep.
So yeah I, just think we'regonna see a low score win it.
Okay.
And early on these, most ofthese courses aren't looking to
they're not gonna break you.
We did see last week 12 underthrough two rounds and the final

(01:17:50):
winning score was also 12 underthe rough was tough and the wind
definitely tough.
Was tough.
We're not seeing that.
So that made happen.
Yeah.
Things difficult, but still 12under, so it's not like the
course.
We didn't see bird's or anythinglike that.
The big thing last week, They,you couldn't hit the ball
outside of the fairway and berewarded which was refreshing

(01:18:16):
That won't be as much of thecase.
Pebble Beach is a shorter coursemore country club style, certain
guys and west coast guys andcertain styles that fit this a
little bit better where guys arejust com it's a pretty
comfortable course overall.
Definitely can get in sometrouble in some places, but for
the most part scores should bepretty decent here.

(01:18:42):
All right, thoughts, feelings onthe week.
No,

Stoy Hall (01:18:45):
zero cuz I really haven't been watching much.
I know ho Wass hot and knowthose guys are playing but
haven't followed golf too much.
Hadn't heated up.
This is the, usually when I kickoff is pebble.
Cuz you know, football is over,we're getting college
basketball.
It's just this transition time.

(01:19:05):
Overall for myself.
So I really don't, I won't havemuch, I'm gonna stick very chalk
probably related to most ofthese.
Okay.
As we get through'em.
But we'll have you've gotFanDuel pulled up.
Yeah, I'll have, so any top 40beds right now?
No, I only, I'm only seeing top20.
So same, for, we'll have toadjust.

(01:19:26):
Adjust accordingly.
Adjust on the fly.
Yep.
So we'll always pull up FanDueland DraftKings cuz specifically
in golf they are, theydrastically are different.
A lot of times football.
Nah.
But they

will be, here.
Yeah.
One and done picks.
Are you doing the one and done

Stoy Hall (01:19:50):
pool this year?
I'd never gotten an invite.
Did you?
Yeah.
You did.
I didn't get an invite.
Okay.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we have to run on your oneout the, yeah.
Forgot some way to

track it.
Track the one and done.
Yeah.
My one and done pick this weekis Shames power has performed
well at the course and justnotably does fairly well
beginning of seasons.
He is a plus 1900, which is,

Stoy Hall (01:20:29):
who's doing the one and done jmj?
Huh?
Not under the same thing then,huh?
Yeah I'm in it.

I don't know.
That's, exactly where I fill mypick out every week.
Not this year.
Not this year.

Stoy Hall (01:20:52):
Not this year.

Last 1900.
Shamus power number five.
I think T five overall.
2, 3, 4.
Yep.
T five.
Him and Tom Hoy.
Tom Hoy is the defendingchampion here.
Struggled at the end of lastyear, but has recouped Yeah.
To start this year, so I can'tbad at it.
A popular pick.

(01:21:15):
Top three picks here at all areall at plus 1100.
That is Spe Fitzpatrick andHoland, as you mentioned those
names earlier.
And going down the board, you'regonna see some familiar names,
but you're gonna see a lot ofnames.

Stoy Hall (01:21:29):
I like a, kucher early on.
Yeah.
Like he early on season, Kucherwins, those types of things.
I don't know if Pebble.
He Pebble doesn't suit himdrastically.
I'm trying to think of whereelse I would use someone else.
I like Shamus a little latertoo.

(01:21:50):
I don't know how I'm gonna trackthis and remember it.
I'll we'll track it cuz I'llknow who's on there, but I'll
just put him on here.
Yeah.
Let me go with Hogan.
I'm gonna go back to backs.
Tom Hoy come back to back.
Let's, go back to backs.

Tom Hoy also at plus 1900 on the one and done

Stoy Hall (01:22:05):
so on.
Draft Kings.
He's

2200.
2200.
Like that.
What's power?
19.
19.
Yeah.
So you get a little bit littlebit more love on the Give me
I'll you the love.
You can find the love.
Take the love one, the love.
Give me the love.
So one of my one and donemantras this year has been.

(01:22:31):
to be more aggressive early on.
B aggressive.
So far it hasn't really paid offfor me.
I've been aggressive in thewrong direction, so I've already
used like Xander Chalet hasalready been used.
I've already used all Taurus.
So just going with, oh no guysthat I thought might win a
tournament.
Yeah, early.
Every week so far we've hadmultiple winners.

(01:22:54):
As far as people who picked theguy who's won well multiple
times, meaning we've hadrollover in, in first win pots
cuz you had to have the solo winin order to get the payout on
that.
So have been trying to stay likea little bit off the beaten
path, but at the same point thatit's also something I talked to

(01:23:16):
Andrew about.
And unfortunately I haven't getgone with his picks as much as I
probably should have.
I'm gonna have to startfollowing Andrew more.
Probably it comes down too.
Based on everything that I'veseen so far, he hasn't led me
astray and yet I've ignored him.
So that's what I'm good at.
Just ask my wife.

(01:23:37):
Outright winners.
You said you're going scratchyou just, you're just going
straight to the top of thatleaderboard.
What's your feel here?

Stoy Hall (01:23:48):
Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna look at it.
I'm gonna look at it.
Being my first tournament, andI'm picking all year.
Yeah.
This Now I, should probably pickfrom the top five.

(01:24:15):
Yeah.
What am I going to, okay.
I, this is.
I like I, like him early too.
Keith Mitchell is just someonewho I don't know what he is done
this year.
Again, I've done zero researchthis year on golf, but I've
picked him last year beforearound this time period, and
it's worked out well for me.

(01:24:36):
Keith Mitchell?

Yeah.
All right.
Winner.
You got a number on him?

Stoy Hall (01:24:42):
Yeah, he is.
Oh, dear Lord, it disappeared.
Plus 3,500 on Draft Kings.
He is

3,300 on Van.

Stoy Hall (01:25:01):
Keep going with Draft Kings.
Yeah.

Let's see here.
Keep playing this week.
What are you looking for?
Taylor Montgomery has beenplaying really good golf this
year.
I think he's taken a week off.

(01:25:30):
He's a guy to keep a, I'mkeeping an eye on.
Okay.
Off young guy, off to a hotstart this year.
Pick him next week.
But yeah, this week not gonna bethe case.
I think that this week I amgoing to go Matthew Fitzpatrick.

(01:25:50):
Haven't seen, he hasn't playedstate side, so I'm a little
hesitant from that perspective.
But this is a good

Stoy Hall (01:26:00):
course for him to not be playing stateside to come
play stateside though.

Correct.
Just not a guy that's going tobe expected.
to do much from a ProAmstandpoint.
He'll probably play in it andstuff like that, but he's just
not as notable as like spe canin my eyes, maybe get a little
distracted.

(01:26:24):
McNeely up and coming Americanguy.
Yeah, I think that Fitzpatrickcan come in, get a win.
I do really like power to finishstrong.
Fitzpatrick's 1100 on Indu, sameon.
Okay.
Same.
So yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna gothat's why we have an outright

(01:26:47):
winner.
Doesn't doesn't have to besomebody that comes from way
back in the pack.
It seems like the cream is roseto the top here early in the
season where we've seen a lot oflower guys maybe contend stuff
like that, but it ultimately,like they've blown leads.
And those guys behind'em,there's been a lot of chasers in
the chasers have successfullyYeah.
Caught up in the fourth rounddark Horse or do you want to go

(01:27:13):
to Player to Faith?
Let's just go in order thisweek.
Yeah, let's go in order.
Dark Horse, we call it darkHorse.
The Black Stallion of course.
Here.
5,000 or more.
Plus 5,000.
And

Stoy Hall (01:27:27):
for no other reason than because I like saying his
name right now.
Kurt Kama.
And what's he at?
Plus 6,000.
What's he at over there?

Kurt Baby, where are you at?
Oh, hey Kitty, Yama plus 7,000over here.
Hey, let's jump back over.
This is why you look at bothsides, folks.
I'm going with Ryan.
Oh yeah.
Traditional golf course.
Obviously a golf course.
This guy's probably played a lotgrowing up in a golf family.

(01:28:14):
Pure circumstantial, but plus10,000, 11,000

Stoy Hall (01:28:17):
on, oh

dk.
Yep.
Has played in golf tournamentsthat that matter has played good
golf.
So gonna look for him to take anoutside chance at it and, come
in for w For w.
Yeah.
Get the black stallion dub tostart the year.

(01:28:40):
All

Stoy Hall (01:28:40):
right, let's change that to top 20 cuz we don't have
a top

40.
We have don't have that option.
Top 20 pick.
Let's go.
And they have to be finishingpositions.
What was our rules?
That's the thing.
They couldn't be,

Stoy Hall (01:28:55):
plus they had to be plus.

So we want to go plus do we want to go top 20 and
do we want to go either.
Do you want to go to plus 200?
Yeah, we can do that.
There's only a handful of guysthat would be inside of that.
Yeah.
There would be one guy that Iwould for sure play that's
inside of that,

Stoy Hall (01:29:16):
but

top 40.
Do you still want to do top 40or do you just wanna do top 20?
Just do top 20.
Top 20.
Okay.
So we'll switch that becausethere's not top 40.
This week there's not.
But like weekly there might be,yeah.
Weekly we'll go

Stoy Hall (01:29:33):
top

40, but, okay.
So top 20 this week.
And we're saying our caveat isthey've gotta be plus 200 or
better to finish in the top 20.
Give me bo

Stoy Hall (01:29:46):
hala bo big bow solid rookie season last year.
I think he, it's time for him toturn it around.
This will be the time plus.
I have no idea how he's playingfor two 40 plus two 40.
Yeah.

Big Bo Hala.
See here.
Oh.
I will go with a guy that I'veseen on the leaderboard.
A few times this year.
He's been playing some prettydecent golf.

(01:30:25):
Overall, I think I am going togo with Eric Vanian.
He's been playing a little bitsolid and if he can continue
just doing that he's at plus 300to finish in the top 20 okay.

(01:30:47):
Okay.
I'm gonna have to play some goodgolf again.
Yeah.
What he's been doing, what's heon?
DraftKings.

Stoy Hall (01:30:55):
Oh shit.
Three 50.

3 53 fit.
I like that.
Another guy that I'll justmention here, maybe he's outside
but a guy that I really likethis week is Andrew Putnam.
Playing good golf and been,yeah, and we'll play this.
What's he on this one?
25.
1 25?
Yeah.
And he's plus one 40 on FanDuel.

(01:31:25):
So just won't fit the criteriathere.
But that's just a, definitelyanother guy that I looked at
this week.
And I think we'll have a, solidshowing.
Last but not least, our playerto fade and remember, our player
to fade is someone who is T 10or better, basically.

(01:31:46):
Yeah.
Someone that is expected to playwell that will fade right from
the bunch that for whateverreason, whether it be course
bias recency bias or anything inbetween that we don't think is
going to do quite as well aseveryone is protecting them to

(01:32:09):
do.
This week.
They had to be top 10.
Is that what

Stoy Hall (01:32:14):
t it could be T 10, so sometimes that'll get us 14
guys.

(01:32:39):
Let's see.
So they had to be in T 10 from abedding perspective, and they we
do it based upon theirdifference between their
starting position and theirfinishing position.

I'm I'm gonna go with spe.

Stoy Hall (01:33:01):
See, I sticking that same damn thing.
I'll, I'm

gonna jump in there first and Yeah, go ahead.
You wanna follow you again?
SPE was plus 1100, is he plus1100.
12 plus 1200.
He's

Stoy Hall (01:33:16):
two here.

Is anyone T2 here?
Okay.
And he's one of T1 Mine, so Iget the one, right?
Yeah.
So make a note on that.
He's t1 because it's, number offinishes away, right?

(01:33:39):
Yep.
Yeah

Stoy Hall (01:33:44):
I'm going with Holin.
Okay.
Only cuz the last time I sawhim, he decided to shake and
choke some stuff away.
That's literally the onlyreason.
Yeah.
Although I looked up, he'splaying fine this year, but just

saying.
Yeah.
We haven't seen him in, theStates really much so, that's
where I met.
He's also T one

Stoy Hall (01:34:01):
or one.
I'll take that then, right?
He's the two over here.

Take the one.
Yeah him Holin and him spe areall tied out plus 1100 on also.
So there it is.
Yeah.
So we're both taking the top twoguys to not be.
The top two guys or finishreally chock fires further
outside.
Kind again when the field is notas strong, you're gonna have

(01:34:28):
that.
I think we both have correctfeelings on guys that might
further finish further outsideof that.
But that's what we're looking atthis week.
So you are looking at Tom Hoyand Keith, Mitchell.
I'm looking at Shamus Power andMatthew Fitzpatrick black

(01:34:51):
Stallions, Kurt Kitty Yama andRyan Palmer.
Top twenties for Bo Hostler andEric Van.
And any side bets this week?
I just got nothing.
I got nothing this week from a,just more so from a standpoint
of just not being fullyengrossed.

(01:35:11):
We can

Stoy Hall (01:35:12):
side bets in the game the dodge ball and yeah,

so flag football.
So quick.
This'll be a good, wrap up here.
Yeah.
So that let's kind of golf forthis week.
Again, we'll be really rampingup here February, March,
obviously into the Masters inApril.
But the Pro Bowl is gonna be ourfiller this week for football,

(01:35:39):
and they're doing things alittle differently this year.
In the NFL on Thursday night atseven o'clock on espn.
You can watch the initial startof the Pro Bowl stuff.
And I had some notes here on it,maybe on this page.
They are doing a skills show.

(01:35:59):
The thing where I really feellike they're screwing this up is
there's no, no fans at this.
Yeah.
It's, I don't understand.
Which I think they'll eventuallyget to.
I think it's just in, in testphase.
But they're doing all of theseitems live.
They're doing dodge ball.
So it'll be four teams of five.
You'll have an AFC offense, AFCDefense, NFC Offense, NFC
Defense.
The two AFC teams will play eachother.

(01:36:19):
Then the two NFC teams will playeach other winner.
The top two teams from each one.
The winner of that gets, pointsto either the AFC or N ffc If
they win they have then alightning round, which is 16
players from each side.
AFC and nfc, they do athree-part elimination
challenge.
First one is tossing roll waterballoons back and forth at the
farthest distance.
If you go through that they'redoing a punt catch and then a

(01:36:44):
bucket dump of which they'reaiming at a target to dump
something water or somethingonto coaches that are standing
underneath these bucket.
Winner of that is going to getpoints.
They're doing a long drive.
This will be a fun one.
There's four players from eachconference.
I haven't seen any names onthis.
No, I haven't either.
Which is a little disappointing.
I assume.
Rogers and Allen, this ispre-taped, so this has already

(01:37:05):
been done.
My understanding.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Then Allen that's how a Alan'splaying in the Pro Am this week
because he won't be there forthat.
So I assume like Rogers, Allen,that's kinda league

Stoy Hall (01:37:18):
golfers.
Is that live?
I didn't know that.

That's my understanding on the long drive
is that it's the only one thatwas pre-taped.
What's the point?
Nevermind.
Yep.
Yeah, four players from eachconference, winning conference
will win that.
It'll just be like a long drivecompetition.
Have to hit it so far, have tohit it in right.
In play if you will.
I think it's three swings, eachguy or anything like that.

(01:37:42):
Then you have the precisionpassing, which we've seen in
years past.
The thing that they're addingthis year.
So they're doing, and maybethey've done it in years past, I
haven't paid that muchattention, but they're doing two
quarterbacks from each NFC andafc, but they're also doing one
non quarterback.
Ooh.
From the NFC and afc.
That'll be and then there's abest catch.
So like similar, I think.
Yeah.

(01:38:03):
Try to mold your mind towardslike dunk contest.
Yeah.
Of guys being creative in orderto catch the ball.
That's all on Thursday.
The only thing that I can seeparlays over into February 5th
Sunday is that the best catchfinale has a finals.
Yeah.
Which is Sunday.

(01:38:24):
Then they do the grid irongauntlet, which is just the
relay race.
Yep.
They've done in the past.
They do a move the change, whichis basically their version of
tug of war, but they're pullinga wall.
So it's a timed event of.
basically taking chains andpulling a wall.

(01:38:44):
So like you have to get creativeon how you're gonna do that work
together as a squad and pull thewall a certain distance in a,
certain period of time.
And then you have the kickerpunter, long snappers getting
involved in kick tack toe WhichI think is just what it sounds
like.
They've gonna, they're gonnahave targets out there and you

(01:39:05):
gotta win in tic tac toe byhitting your targets.
And then all of that is going tobe followed up by seven on
seven, seven flag footballgames.
There are a couple games beingplayed.
I don't know if it's before orleading up to, but like then the
finale will be a final game.
Yeah.
Of some sort.
So not exactly sure how that'sall gonna be divvied up.

(01:39:25):
So I'll be interested to see thefanfare on that.
There will be fans at that'shappening in Vegas.

Stoy Hall (01:39:31):
How do you, feel about, so is everything Thursday

pre-filed then?
No, Thursday's live except forthe, golf.

Stoy Hall (01:39:39):
So what happens Friday, Saturday?

Nothing.
right?
Yeah.
Weird.
It's just weird.
Yeah.
The whole thing's weird, but youjust do Saturdays, they're
basically live events on daysthat they think they're gonna
be, they

Stoy Hall (01:39:50):
play that's popular.
No, that they would playfootball Thursday, Sunday,
Monday.
I fine,

but what are you doing right anyways?
And like the Thursday event isnot in the same city Thursday
somewhere, and then Sunday's inVegas.
I don't think Thursday's inVegas.
Anyways I could be wrong onthat.
It

Stoy Hall (01:40:07):
could, but I'm not, it could be

fun.
It'll be different.
They are having the little kidsseven on seven finals leading,
so I don't know if they'restarting those at noon or if
those are at like 11 and they'releading through noon.
That'll be on ESPN beforehand.
But they're holding them in thesame place.

(01:40:28):
You'll have the little kidsseven on seven finals and then
you'll lead into Got it.
Got the pro skills.
So like they've got the rightidea.
I like that the NFL is beingproactive with just trying to be
entertaining when, because theyknow that their game product
sucks when it comes to anall-star game and always will.

(01:40:49):
Unless they change the time ofyear that they put it at or
something like that.
It's just never gonna change.
You're never gonna have the bestguys playing and football's
tough to show off like nba, likeyou can have your best guys do
some cool shit type of thing.
Yeah.
Like during an All-star game orweekend nfl, it's just like

(01:41:11):
nothing Pat Mahomes is going todo is gonna be cooler than what
he does on Sunday.
Same thing for Josh Allen, likeyou're just not gonna see like
those receivers, the end, theycan make acrobatic catches and
stuff like that, but everythingthat happens because of how the
NFL works is cooler.
when it happens in a game, thenthe showcase that you're putting

(01:41:32):
on, it's just tougher to put ona showcase for that thing.
Hey.
So I think they're doing a goodjob of, it's

Stoy Hall (01:41:36):
gonna be way better than the actual football game.
Yeah.
That they have oh, it's

just, so yeah.
I think that the NFL's doing theright thing.
Try to pivot here.
So hopefully it's entertaining.
It'll definitely catch my eyesfor at least this year.
Yeah.
Simply because it's something alittle different.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:41:51):
I, agree a hundred percent.

All right.
And honestly, a better chancethat I watch it on a Thursday
night than on a, Saturday when Imight be out doing something.
Or

Stoy Hall (01:41:59):
golf.
Yeah.
Start, compete there.
I'd rather watch a Pebble.
Any who?
Yeah.
That's it.
Golf starting.
It's a little teaser.
Pro Bowl this week.
Next week.
Big week.
Super

Bowl.
Super Bowl week.
Let's get it.
One

Stoy Hall (01:42:13):
game.
One game, one team, oneheartbeat.
One city.

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