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Cole Ingle (00:03):
then it's time.
Stoy Hall (00:05):
That is our opinion.
Cole Ingle (00:07):
All right, shunt
shot two.
Bottoms
Stoy Hall (00:11):
up.
La Root Beer.
El Root Beer.
That was a root beer.
A what?
Oh, straight whiskey.
Ooh, that'll get ya.
Oh, man.
Get ya.
All right.
While he's choking and dying onthat, the, oh my goodness.
(00:34):
I understand what happens here.
But this hurts your brain.
Are you?
Cole Ingle (00:39):
that was looks like
Stoy Hall (00:43):
root beer, right?
Oh, it's just No, it's justwhiskey.
Yeah.
that's just, yeah.
No, I could see how root beer.
Yeah, but it, just 99 whiskey.
Wow.
I didn't even know they had a 99in whiskey.
I am so glad you took that.
Not me.
Wow, man.
Yikes.
And to be like mentally preparedfor root beer.
(01:05):
Oh yeah.
To roll right into a warm ass.
Thanks.
I appreciate you Bad
Cole Ingle (01:08):
whiskey.
Woo.
That was worth two on its own.
Holy
Stoy Hall (01:13):
Nikes.
I, would actually concur in thatsituation.
Oh, all all right.
We're in it.
This is just in I get whathappens, but I don't know if
I've ever seen this before.
What's that?
This,
Cole Ingle (01:26):
move.
Sorry.
Recovering, I can barely open my
Stoy Hall (01:30):
eyes out route.
And then okay, it's he's, andthen just dips like a double
whip.
Well,
Cole Ingle (01:35):
the defender just
actually does a good, Does a
really good job.
But ice, yeah, it's the ice.
His eyes are he's reading thequarterback, he's a man-to-man
coverage and he's reading thequarterback.
Bad idea.
So now it's like the opposite ofwhat usually happens to Diggs.
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Usually he's in zone reading.
The quarterback gets pumped andthen they run past him.
This guy, however you're just ina one-on-one drill here.
He's in his
Stoy Hall (02:07):
pocket now.
Let's, now let's be real.
It was great coverage.
Okay.
This route, timing wise is not,first of all, not even a real,
like a, I don't know.
That's well route.
It's a whipping.
I don't know.
It was just everyone was blownup on Twitter about it because
it looks like he disappears.
Like right here is just woowhoa, whoa.
Eyes.
Cole Ingle (02:27):
I mean in a
one-on-one drill for your
defender, just seven yards fromthe ball, not to be in the
screen when you catch it is,
Stoy Hall (02:34):
is damn impressive.
It is.
Yeah.
But, okay.
Linebackers stand.
Just stand your man.
Stand his hip.
Yeah.
Stay right here.
You, have him beat.
Yeah.
You
Cole Ingle (02:44):
He's going at that
point, like he's going for an
interception.
Yeah.
Because he's trying to beat theguy to a spot on a route, like
from an anticipation standpoint.
Right here, he's head turn, he'slooking to catch a
Stoy Hall (02:54):
ball because he
thinks it's an out.
By the way, don't do that,especially in these drills, cuz
these drills don't, nor they'renot normal
Cole Ingle (03:01):
routes.
Let's, and that's what I don'tlike as far as one-on-one routes
and stuff like that, I go, notto say that he wouldn't be in a
situation where he might need tobe win one-on-one or like this,
but like you see like thedefensive linemen going against
the offensive linemen.
and one guy either holds or doessome, and then all of a sudden
they end up on their back andit's that's either holding or
right.
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There's something.
And it's like the form and thetechniques, right?
Trying to get blown
Stoy Hall (03:25):
down of proportion.
Now this looks like his route,by the way, just by the way he's
running it.
Cole Ingle (03:28):
Oh yeah.
Like he puts the
Stoy Hall (03:30):
foot in the ground.
But yes, there, you're right.
1 0 1 drills like these.
It's tough.
Cole Ingle (03:35):
The exposure
Stoy Hall (03:37):
Yeah it's, it
happens.
It happens.
So a lot on both sides?
Yep, both sides.
Oh, good Old.
Good old Matt.
Matt Ice.
So little quote by Matt Ryan.
Yep.
And if you really think he saidthis, then whatever I've been
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contemplating retirement, butthen Brady beat me to the punch.
So now it's either play anotherthe year or retire on 3 28 and
embrace the memes Yeah.
I'm not bringing up why thatmakes sense at the three and 28
part, but.
Cole Ingle (04:13):
Here we go.
If
Stoy Hall (04:15):
this I don't choice
words afterwards if this
happens.
Football is, or NFL is no longerNFL right now.
None at all.
What are you supposed to do?
Yep.
So the NFL is planning to havean active conversation this
season about the possibility ofbanning the hip drop tackles.
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So we had brought this up beforethis with Mahomes.
This is with Mahomes?
This one, the specific TonyPowell is Pollard.
Yep.
Both in the playoffs though.
Yep.
Both in playoffs.
How, what could they talk aboutwhat, how else in this one
specifically, how else are yousupposed to tackle?
Cole Ingle (04:54):
No I don't disagree.
We,
Stoy Hall (04:56):
you're just
Cole Ingle (04:56):
supposed to like,
cuz what this is stemming from
is so horse collar tackle what'sit been?
Probably close to five.
It's been a while now.
Three to five years.
Yeah.
The horse collar was causing asguys get ripped back.
knee, ankle, those types ofinjuries.
And now they're taking it a stepfurther to if I wrap a guy
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around the waist and then dropmy weight which in most of these
cases, these are defensive backsthat are doing this safeties.
Say we saw it on Mahomes, butthat was even a weird one cuz he
was held first.
Yeah.
That was pretty, that's more oflike the protection of the
quarterback actually causing thequarterback to get more injured
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because the guys are trying towrap and make sure that they're
not putting, the weight on himand stuff like that.
The Tony Pollard in the openfield is like anytime you get a
receiver or running backone-on-one or in the open field,
a guy is going to be coming frombehind or beside them to take
them down.
There's only so many ways youcan tackle a guy without using
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your head right, without all ofthese things that we had to
follow.
Oh, also,
Stoy Hall (06:05):
and not letting him
score.
Cole Ingle (06:07):
Look, that's his
job.
Ultimately the defensive guy'sjob is to get the offensive guy
down.
The offensive guy's job is toscore to the end zone.
If I'm diving and I grab a guyand then I'm off my feet and
drop like first of all, it'scompletely discre discretionary.
Second of all, like you'reputting an undue amount of
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responsibility on referees todetermine at what point a tackle
and a hip drop happened.
And nobody even knows.
They can't even tell what acatch is, guys.
I know.
Stoy Hall (06:43):
And now you're gonna
say, so
Cole Ingle (06:44):
the fact that this
is even being discussed is so
nauseating, disgusting ingeneral.
Stoy Hall (06:51):
So I'll lose my shit.
I will lose my shit.
Cole Ingle (06:54):
Yep.
If that happens.
I think my comment to that waswe just might as well put flags
on flags are gang.
Yep.
Yep.
Just, we're gonna move to flagfootball together.
Stoy Hall (07:02):
Absolutely.
This, is one you sent, right?
Yeah.
Cole Ingle (07:06):
So Brian
Schottenheimer got Hired as the
Cowboys Offensive coordinatorafter we got rid of Kellen
Moore.
He's got a record, he's now withSan Diego.
Do you wanna go down that list?
Cause I might get physicallybecause it's gonna make me
Stoy Hall (07:28):
physically ill.
Yeah, I got you.
I got you.
So in 2001, his crew started hisquarterbacks coach for their,
the then Redskins.
By the way, don't come at melike that.
Yeah.
They were ranked 28th in offenseahead of 32 teams.
Then with the, Chargers from ohtwo to oh five the only years
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Drew Bree's career where hedidn't look like a Hall of
Famer.
Then he was with the Jets, whichis never a good idea.
As an offense coordinator for ohsix to 11.
and wasted some of NFL's bestdefenses with Mark Sanchez.
I'm pretty sure two of thosewere AC championship
Cole Ingle (08:05):
games.
He was the offensive coordinatorwho called the butt fumble play.
Stoy Hall (08:11):
Fumble.
Oc.
Yeah.
The name was with the St.
Louis Rams oc.
They for three seasons, theywere 25th, 21st, and 21st in
offense.
Okay.
Not good.
Then clearly got fired.
Is not good there.
So he went to Georgia for a yearas OC and quarterbacks coach.
They were ranked 85th and thiswas 2015.
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Okay.
We're not far that far removed.
Iowa should hire this guy, 85thin offense.
Yes.
And then he got Mark, Rick firedat that as well.
Then the Colts decided, Hey,let's come on over.
Be a quarterbacks coach.
They were 30th in offense.
Then Seattle gave him the oldthe old thing 18 and 20.
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2020.
He didn't let Russ cook.
They were not good, by the way,offensively there.
Yeah.
And then with the Jags 2021 whenthey had the 36th, they were
32nd in offense with TrevorLawrence for those
Cole Ingle (09:10):
scoring at home,
there's only 32 N F NFL teams.
Yeah.
The worst.
Yep.
And look what Trevor Lawrencedid this year with Peterson.
But hey, the only thing I willsay is that Mike McCarthy has,
is already been said to becalling the police.
Stoy Hall (09:24):
So what's the point
of him
Cole Ingle (09:26):
Experience bad
experience, but that's, all I
was reading about was the factthat he's been, that he's been
around.
And my guess is that eitherMcCarthy and or Cherry Jones
feel like they can control him.
And ultimately that's what theCowboys organization is about.
Not actually, and he might
Stoy Hall (09:45):
be good at reading
something.
He might be good at timemanagement.
There might be things that wewon't see in here.
but that's not a good luck whenthere's, there was some good OCS
Cole Ingle (09:55):
out there, right?
So again, Mike McCarthy takingover play calling, so ultimately
it's going to fall on him, noton Schottenheimer, but just that
right there is all you need toknow and the fact that I don't
know what the Cowboys werelooking at from a success
standpoint.
(10:16):
No, not at all.
When making the hire, so not
Stoy Hall (10:19):
at all, but hey,
super Bowl's over the Eagle's.
1 37.
34.
Cole Ingle (10:23):
I've seen multiple
Stoy Hall (10:24):
scripts now though.
Yeah.
I've seen multiple scripts too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So obviously a lot of peoplegoing in and doing a lot of work
Yeah.
To get these things done.
But I love it.
I love it.
Absolutely.
And I might bet that it's gonnabe 37 34.
Yeah.
I'll, do it on both sides.
I actually like that number, thenumbers how they got there, who
knows.
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But in this one the chiefs areup 24, 13.
Yeah.
At half.
At half.
Yeah.
And go on to lose, huh?
11 here.
I'm interested in how they gotto 11.
I would like to know that.
Eight and three.
No, I know how the math works.
Yeah.
I
Cole Ingle (11:01):
mean but, is that
like they're knowns known for go
for two, going for two, tryingto draw'em off sides.
They've done it.
That's Siri's done it multipletimes in the playoffs.
That's true.
Actually two different timeshe's had to end up calling Time
out because his p a t teamdidn't stay off the damn field
or his special teams coach wastrying to talk to him and he's I
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know what the hell I'm doing.
Leave me alone.
So like they've had twoinstances where they've tried to
line up, draw the team off side,draw the other team off sides,
so then they get half thedistance of the goal and then
they can go for two.
So their plan isn't to go fortwo.
But it is to set themselves upto be able to go for two
because, and then they sneak itof having j Jalen Hertz and the
best their sneak, the best sneakI call it it's the Flying V of
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Sneaks.
Absolutely.
It's
Stoy Hall (11:52):
a rugby scrum.
Cole Ingle (11:53):
It's fantastic.
And they push the shit out of'em.
And they have one of the bestlines in the nfl and they have a
very active agile quarterbackwho, one is strong, but two can
move towards gaps even within asneak play.
So it's very effectively used.
So effective in
Stoy Hall (12:11):
Niners did stop at
once.
I They did, but
Cole Ingle (12:13):
that was impressive.
It's still the best in the nflhands down, especially as bad as
teams are at it.
Hands down.
So hands eagles do a lot ofthings.
Stoy Hall (12:22):
They, do.
They do.
Cole Ingle (12:24):
This is This is a
good one.
This is just, yeah.
Need the audio.
Stoy Hall (12:33):
I wanna make sure I
get it.
Hopefully that's the button.
Don't say it.
Don't say it.
Cole Ingle (12:45):
Don't say it.
Saw the fans out there, cameout, showed up, and supported
us.
Thanks to our loved ones with uson the chorus, our buddies Gary
and MJ for being great partners.
And see you next year.
That was amazing week.
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That's it.
I got nothing to say.
That was, man.
That's it.
That's it all.
Thanks everybody.
All right.
In the ProAm Aaron Rodgers wason the winning team for the
ProAm which for the amateurs,they are scored off a handicap.
And actually in his postma orpost round interview, Josh Allen
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stepped in and basically made acomment of, must be nice to get.
so many strokes.
I think Josh Allen got one lessstroke than him.
Only finished a few, maybe acouple or stroke back of where
Rogers did.
But yeah, the comment here isRogers has as many pro-Am titles
as Super Bowls send Tweet so Ilove it.
(13:45):
Yeah.
Good love it.
Good stuff there from DanRapaport is a great golf follow.
Yeah, absolutely.
Very entertaining in a lot ofways.
Has a lot of great content.
If you are interested infollowing someone in that realm
on Twitter, highly recommend.
Stoy Hall (14:03):
Absolutely.
So this one is interest insane.
Yeah.
What are the chances, right?
Which is, goes more to theeveryone keeps asking.
Do you think the NFL's riggedand scripted.
You can't
Cole Ingle (14:17):
even you can't even
really script this.
You can't script this.
This is, yeah.
Too much for a script, right?
Stoy Hall (14:22):
It is now scripted.
You know what I mean?
Like it, it looks like that.
So field dates tweeted thechiefs this year.
16 three.
Overall record, 546 point scoredsix.
All pros including a Kelseybrother and their quarterback
AFCs.
Number one, seed the Eagles thisyear, 16 and three.
Overall record, 546 point scoredsix.
All pros including Kelseybrother and their quarterback
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nfcs number one C.
Yeah.
That's scary.
That's just insane.
This is why when we get to theSuper Bowl, picking this matchup
is awesome.
It's tough.
Cole Ingle (14:52):
It's tough.
Be tough.
It yeah, just a lot of ins andouts.
Little yeah.
This is just something I foundinteresting.
I wish I could zoom.
I
Stoy Hall (15:03):
don't know how to
zoom
Cole Ingle (15:04):
as teams
Stoy Hall (15:05):
are screwed.
You guys can
Cole Ingle (15:06):
see it maybe, right?
As teams are created as teams alot of people will say, and they
wouldn't be wrong, that the Ramsbought their Super Bowl and now
they're gonna pay for it foryears to come.
And that'd be really tough toargue based on what they may or
may not have coming back,coaching issues, player issues
salary cap issues.
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So you name it, issues.
But if you take a look and thefirst thing that jumped out to
me was the eagle side of things.
Of their 11 offensive starters,10 of them were drafted by the
Eagles.
That's impressive.
That's a, that's unheard ofimpressive.
I don't know because you don'tsee stats like this too often.
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You have to go pretty in depth.
I would say.
I don't think anyone.
Drafted all 11 of their starterson either side of the ball in
the nfl, in the Super Bowl?
I would I would just say in thenfl, oh, just if you look at the
32 teams and you look at theiroffense and their defense, how
many of'em have 11 drafted them?
How, many of'em have 10 starterson either side of the ball that
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they drafted?
I'd say I would be willing tobet that no one has a Levit
probably.
Therefore they would have themost starters drafted on
offense.
It's,
Stoy Hall (16:23):
it is just ridiculous
actually.
Cole Ingle (16:25):
One offensive
lineman that came from the
Titans, besides that everyperson in their No, that's,
Stoy Hall (16:30):
or one that's Aja
Brown buddy.
I know
Cole Ingle (16:32):
you, excuse me.
See, I can't, I'm looking thescreen.
Ah, I can't even see the name.
Yeah, Oh yes.
AG Brown.
Yeah.
So they have one receiver.
Everyone else was drafted.
And they have guys from I wannasay the earliest draft was
either oh 4 0 5.
So they have guys that have beenin the leagues.
Oh yeah.
Kelsey.
18 or 19 years.
Lane Johnson I think was aboutthe same time too.
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Yeah.
Oh 4 0 5.
And up to guys drafted in thelast two or three years.
Abs
Stoy Hall (16:58):
it's so great
Cole Ingle (17:00):
by them, by the way.
Great job.
By them.
Clearly they're organicallydoing well.
Something from a differentsport, but that's something the
Yankees were also known for wasbeing really good at drafting
bringing guys through their farmsystem for a while and then well
now they have by everybody.
Stoy Hall (17:17):
But yeah, so but then
on the flip side you get more of
an average, right?
That they've got five.
Yeah.
The chiefs are about
Cole Ingle (17:23):
five and six.
Six and five, five
Stoy Hall (17:24):
and six.
That's, I would assume isprobably
Cole Ingle (17:26):
that's where most
teams are gonna land.
Yeah.
Especially in, today's in NFLand professional sports.
Yeah.
World in general.
That's just how teams are.
That's how GMs are judged.
It's it's not only the draft,but it's how can I use the draft
or what I've got in the draft inorder to make trades, in order
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to get coaches.
Ala Sean, Peyton.
Stuff like that is good on the,so you're gonna see.
A lot more of that.
But what do you have?
Three, four?
So it's six, six drafted andfive came from other teams.
Stoy Hall (18:03):
Five.
Five drafted.
Six.
That's fine.
Cole Ingle (18:06):
He can't.
Five and six.
That's five.
That's whatever.
Half and
Stoy Hall (18:08):
half.
One, one half,
Cole Ingle (18:09):
half a dozen.
But yeah, so a little bit ofdifference there going into the
Super Bowl.
Chiefs have a little more SuperBowl experience.
Overall.
Eagles you can argue have, aregoing to have a tighter knit
locker room because you've gotguys that were have all only
been eagles.
Yeah.
And there's something to sayabout growing that culture and
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stuff like that.
Not wrong.
You're not wrong.
All right.
Another funny
Stoy Hall (18:35):
Kirk's boy if at
first you don't succeed, lower
your standards.
Yeah, I don't full I don't care.
Iowa fans, this makes no sense.
Yeah.
He should not be an officecoordinator.
He can go back to line coach.
That's fine.
But, Yeah.
How could you, over the last twoseasons, be okay with remaining
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him as the oc?
Cole Ingle (18:58):
Nah you can't the, I
heard an interesting take that I
really hadn't, not that I reallyhadn't given a considera I guess
I just hadn't given him anyconsideration.
But basically, so Gary BarrBarta is Iowa's athletic
director, and he's technicallythe direct report for Brian
Ferren because a family membercannot be directly impact
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another family member'scontract.
Oh, okay.
At the University of Iowa.
That's good, by the way.
So Kirk cannot determine thefate of Brian Ferre.
However, it is said that KirkFerren has way more pull at the
University of Iowa than GaryBarta ever will.
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And therefore, even if Bartawanted to, he wouldn't win the
battle of getting rid of Kirk'sson a vote or some shit without
there being a lot more shit hitthe fan, basically.
And so that's why people aresaying that Barta got a small
victory in the fact that he wasable to put somebody in the
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contract that says we have tohave at least seven wins and at
least 25 points.
However, the defense kids score14 of those 25 points based on
what that says.
And
Stoy Hall (20:19):
yeah, what does so,
for all those, I don't think we
have it at all.
What does the contract say?
Cole Ingle (20:23):
So they updated
Brian Farran's contract and
literally the only update in it,from what I can see, is they
dropped his overall salary from$900,000 to 850,000.
Ouch.
Yep.
And then he can make those, thatmoney back in bonuses if he hits
it's seven, I believe it's atleast seven wins is how it's
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worded.
And 25 points a game average notand or averaging 25 points a
game.
But there's no caveat that theoffense has to be the only one
that scored.
It's just 25 points.
It's just 25 points a game.
Also, so
Stoy Hall (20:56):
like this I will win
seven defensively.
Cole Ingle (20:59):
By the way, the
other stat with that, kind of
makes you think where thatnumber came from is that like
Iowa and their last 60 games orsomething like that is this
isn't correct, but they're like57 and three.
If they score 25 points and thenlike in the last three years
they're 35 and oh, if they score25 points ju I mean something,
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it's like 25 points is abenchmark that if they get two,
they win the damn game based ontheir defense.
So the thought process one isthat's bullshit Two, they're
schedules soft next year andthree that they're gonna be
running up the score early on ingames in order because Brian
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wants to And you're just lockingit down.
Yeah.
So like they might try to scorein a game they're winning 30 to
nothing.
Iowa's never been really knownto, to run up the score.
Maybe Minnesota.
But they don't really like them.
And if you run up the score in abig 10 game, it is what it is.
But if you're running up thescore against you and I to save
your ass, then so it just puts abigger target to me on the
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athletic department for whatthey did, because it doesn't
make any damn sense.
Do
Stoy Hall (22:10):
you think as a
player, do you think it's gonna
be like fair in that situation?
Like again, you and I, you're up30 nothing.
Two should be in, but if hewants to run it up, he's not
putting twos in.
He's gonna keep ones in longer.
Which means higher risk forinjury, all these things come
into play.
Absolutely.
And it's all because of hisbullshit contract.
(22:31):
Yeah.
See, I think that's bullshit forthe players personally.
I don't disagree.
No I, just, and that's what'sgonna happen.
They're gonna play their cupcakeschedule and hopefully they're
gonna try to score 70 becausethen he can go drop four eggs
later and be fine.
whatever, bullshit.
But Iowa do better.
Yeah.
You need an office offensecoordinator.
That's worth a day.
That was it.
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All right, let me cut back overto us and we don't have it, but
hope you hear that.
It's super purple
Cole Ingle (23:07):
tie Super Bowl
Sunday.
Woo Man.
57
Stoy Hall (23:15):
Fit is seven lot of
Super Bowls.
Cole Ingle (23:18):
That's an L and v
and two I sure is for those
Roman.
So those Romans out there.
Romans that like their numerals.
Stoy Hall (23:31):
but here we are.
It's Super Bowl time.
Cole Ingle (23:35):
Is that do you ever
obviously like it's a part of
the Super Bowl, icon Marketing.
Do you like it?
No.
Do you just think this, itshould just be the number.
I,
Stoy Hall (23:53):
I, yeah.
I, some of'em are cool, likewhen there's X and stuff, like
they look cool, look cool.
But this one,
Cole Ingle (24:00):
L e i doesn't do
anything for you.
Switch it up every now andagain.
Stoy Hall (24:04):
LV made sense.
I'm gonna get it right.
Like you, you can have it atVegas for, but
Cole Ingle (24:09):
like you're gonna
have what Supers Bowl 60 obvious
will be the next big one.
So you'll have lx,
Stoy Hall (24:14):
that like track
Cole Ingle (24:15):
anything with anx.
Like Lexus should be a bigsponsor of Super Bowl 60.
Just, I'm throwing it out there.
Lexus, you're welcome.
Just helping you out.
Marketing team.
But it's unique to the sport.
There's no other sport thatreally uses that.
Unique New York.
We don't really keep track of, Iwas actually, I was thinking
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about this the other day,obviously we don't really keep
track of World Series numbers.
Stoy Hall (24:42):
What?
I don't even know we're, Icouldn't even fathom what we're
on,
Cole Ingle (24:44):
or I mean anything
nhl, Stanley Cup final,
whatever, like Super Bowl is theonly one like we count, which is
silly because NBA we don't countright
Stoy Hall (24:55):
Before the Super Bowl
wasn't called the Super Bowl.
So you don't need to count.
I get it.
If they were, if the Super Bowlsaround forever and we had the
two different leagues and theymerged and fine, but the fact is
like it wasn't called SuperBowl,
Cole Ingle (25:09):
but it's the only
one we counted and how far are
we going?
No, that's a great, a supervalid question, one that I've.
Stoy Hall (25:17):
Once you get past a
hundred, I get fine counting.
Once you get to a hundred.
What after that?
When I
Cole Ingle (25:22):
thought about it on
a surface level, I'm actually,
as I'm talking, I hadn't eventhought about it that deep.
What are we doing?
Why?
Stoy Hall (25:33):
Okay.
No one's no it I'm gonna haveto, I get it from, okay.
Maybe this way because what'sthe reason you can say, Hey, do
you remember Super Bowl 41 whenX and X happened?
Cole Ingle (25:45):
But no.
Ultimately, no.
I don't remember Super Bowl 55.
No, don't either.
That was two Super bowls ago.
For those scoring at home.
Was it the Bucks Chiefs?
Do you remember?
Super Bowl 56?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bengals Rams, right?
I don't remember like whathappened, right?
I'd have to look it up.
Yeah, like the Rams one, butcould be the five.
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Was that, was Buck's Chiefs.
Buck's Chiefs.
Stoy Hall (26:12):
Yeah.
I do remember that when,remember before was couldn't
tell you Chief Snyders.
Oh yeah.
Cole Ingle (26:19):
Yep.
Cause I was the one, the Chiefswon.
Yeah.
And they lost and then theydidn't make it because they lost
a borough and then they lost.
Now
Stoy Hall (26:27):
they're back again.
Cole Ingle (26:28):
37 to 34.
Cause they've made, the onlyreason I know the last five is
because the Chiefs were in fiveAFC championship games in a row,
which three Super Bowls soinsane.
In the main, yeah.
So yeah.
I had actually never reallythought about that, but yeah.
Give us your, yeah.
Give us your take on Romannumerals.
(26:48):
The hell's going on and why is,what is going on?
Nfl.
Nfl, we need answers as weusually do.
Yes.
Stoy Hall (26:56):
But we're, in it.
So Super Bowl.
Yeah.
Got the all chiefs, Eagles matchup.
Chiefs Eagles.
Cole Ingle (27:03):
Eagles are currently
one and a half point favorites.
Seems like across the board.
The chiefs opened about thesame.
But it quickly, Within the day.
Yeah.
Switched.
And it has remained in the samearea.
The over under has continuallygrown.
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I think it started around 47 40.
Yeah.
I would've hit that so hard.
And is now at 50 and a half, sohard.
50 and a half is where we'recurrently at for over, under
this game.
Man,
Stoy Hall (27:41):
I've flipped flopped
so many damn times now.
Hey, full disclosure, my$50 betthat FanDuel did early in the
year.
I've already made my money backon that one.
Yeah.
The Chiefs win.
I win 550 bucks.
So clearly I have some stake inthe chiefs.
You have a rooting interest.
But from our conversationstandpoint, is there any cash
out availability on that?
(28:01):
There was, I don't know ifthey've update.
No, they like there was in theconference championships.
Okay.
And then as soon as it cameended, no, no chance, no shop.
All right.
Get No, no luck there.
Which is fair.
Fair fine.
Yep.
At this point if I didn't cashout, which I really thought of
clearly for 200 bucks if you'regonna get the Super Bowl
Cole Ingle (28:25):
I mean we touched
ride it out.
We talked about it when theywere playing the Bengals.
Yeah.
Whether it made sense or not,but it felt like they were gonna
win that game.
Yeah.
As we were watching, they werethe better
Stoy Hall (28:35):
team, although I did
have it pulled up.
Yeah.
When it was like three or threeminutes left in the Bengals, got
the ball back cuz the Chiefscouldn't score on that shore
field.
Yep.
And I was like, I clicked italmost, and never pushed
confirmed.
Yep.
And it's because my childrenhad, I don't know, they started
screaming, yelling, so I wasn'tpaying attention.
And then they got the ball backand I was like, ah, yeah,
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they're gonna win now.
Yeah.
So I got lucky.
But any who back to it.
Yeah.
This is man I've, been back andforth on it personally.
And I, don't even know what itcomes down to at this point.
Healthy, someone's gotta behealthy.
If both teams are healthythroughout, I could see it going
into overtime.
So
Cole Ingle (29:14):
from a health
perspective, the only person
that I've seen somewhatinfluential scratch is Nicole
Hardman will not be playing forthe Chiefs.
Yeah.
Besides that, I fully expectMahomes and Kelsey to be healthy
after two weeks.
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Kelsey showed no sign of anyback issues during zero Bengals,
game Zero and Mahomes, I wouldsay looked.
80 to 85%.
And I expect that number toincrease.
Now, he may not be a hundred,but I don't anticipate him being
able to, or not being able to doanything that he would normally
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do.
Whereas he, probably didn'tscramble or run as much against
the Bengals.
I fully expect him to be able todo everything he would normally
do come
Stoy Hall (30:05):
Super Bowl Sunday.
Now, my concern there is he willfeel a hundred percent but it
like the, healing process is notgoing to be a hundred percent
right.
So when you feel a hundredpercent, but it's not a hundred
percent and you do somethingnormal or extra tweak extra and
it tweaks it that is my concern.
Yeah, absolutely.
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And how bad is that tweak, ifis, it back to the conference
championships at that point?
I don't think there's really bigof a problem.
Or is it back to the divisionalround?
he, couldn't move.
And then that's an issue.
So that's my concern.
Going into, for him specificallyand the depth that receiver for
the chiefs if they keep gettingbanged up over and over again.
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Those are my biggest concernsfor the chiefs.
The Eagles.
Everyone keeps saying, or Hertzkeeps saying he's not a hundred
percent get the outta here.
Yeah.
I don't have an injury concernfor them.
No.
I have a, young, a younger teamall drafted, a young quarterback
who hasn't been in this positionbefore.
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Concern.
Those are my two concerns goinginto this game.
What, are your concerns?
Cole Ingle (31:15):
Mahomes Health for
four quarters against the
number.
Pass rush in the league and thechief's secondary.
The other possible injury isSneed is in concussion protocol.
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And he's the leader of theirdefensive backfield.
If he can't play that is a,concerned just from a defensive
leadership perspective, it's aconcern that the Eagles are very
good on play.
And taking advantage of the backend of the chief's defense
because they will need to stopthe run first and make Jalen
Hertz beat them.
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And that being the case, havingSmith Goddard and AJ Brown,
that's a pretty lethalthree-headed monster along with
backs out of the backfield.
They could take advantage ofthat.
And so the youth slashinexperience of the Eagles is
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somewhat of concern, but I thinkthe leadership and guys who were
there five years ago, five yearsago, I think he was they still
have guys that were there.
I think it's between seven andnine guys that were On's good
number, this Super Bowl team.
So a, very good number.
Obviously not as many of the, asthe Chiefs simply because they
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haven't been there for it, justthere several years.
But Those would be like the twothings that I'm looking at.
And as far as like keys to thegame, I'll jump into that as
well while we're sitting on it.
I mentioned the pass rush forPhiladelphia, number one.
Second all time in sac for theseason.
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I believe they have 78 sacks.
It's because they have 19,they're eight deep.
Yeah, they just, yeah, they'refresh.
19 games, 78 sacks.
So basically four sacks a game.
The chiefs only really give uplike one and a half sacks a game
now the Bengals that get'emthree times.
I think some of that was Mahomesbeing a little careful number
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one past defense overall, Ithink that ties directly
honestly into.
the pass rush.
They are definitely ball hawks.
Because of that there's a lot ofbeing able to jump routes and
stuff like that, knowing thatyou're getting pressure.
So if the chiefs are likelygonna go quick pass game, which
has been their mo this year morethan any other year.
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So I don't really see themtrying to take the shots that
maybe some teams have triedagainst eagles.
But I think the Eagles can be alittle suspect in the secondary,
even though the numbers from apass yard average say otherwise
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rushing game their middle of thepack.
So the chiefs will want to tryto establish the run with
Pacheco.
I don't know if they'll staywith it.
It's hard to take the ball outtaMahomes hands in the biggest
game of the year.
I think Reid will have troubledoing that.
So we'll see if they, try tostick with that at all.
I hope they try to establish therun a little bit.
Just don't know if they willdefensively.
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For the chiefs, they've gotta beable to stop the run.
Chris Jones and company have tobe able to control that line of
scrimmage.
Which they were able to do aphenomenal job against
Cincinnati and only having tobring four or five guys most, at
most.
They didn't have to stack thebox, stop the run.
They didn't have to stack thebox or blitz to get to Burrow.
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That being said, Philly has atop three offensive line in the
league.
They don't allows Hertz Mobile.
The one thing is I think thatthe chiefs have a decent amount
of experience playing againstLamar Jackson and they've had
pretty good success.
That's not to say Lamar, Jacksonand Hertz are the same player,
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cuz I think Hertz is a littlemore polished as a passer and
wants to be more of a pocket.
but I think they are going togameplay in very sim similar.
Similarly easy for me to say,right?
You know what?
Outright winner.
Stoy Hall (35:32):
Hey, let's, hey, look
at
Cole Ingle (35:33):
you.
I know.
Killing it.
I'm learning.
It's just when we're talkingabout football, you can talk
about, correct.
Yeah.
In that they are going to makeHertz beat them before Miles,
Sanders or Hertz running theball beats them.
They're gonna make them use hisarm, make him use his arm, and
make those receivers win.
Hopefully with a good pass rush.
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Because Hertz has proven thatunder pressure he is capable of
throwing multiple interceptionsin a game and then they'll lean
on their defense a little bitmore.
But overall Kansas City hasnumber one offense in the nfl
for the year.
Philadelphia's had the numberone offense in the playoffs and
they also had the number threeoffense overall total.
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So the game looks to leantowards offense.
I just don't know if in theplayoffs or in the Super Bowl
particularly that specificallyin the first half that I would
really lean towards the over Iwould lean towards the under,
specifically in the first half.
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As far as feeling outaggressiveness and ability to
create plays for both sides onthe defensive end have been big
things for both teamsspecifically in the playoffs.
So that's where I look as far aswhat I'm looking at in, in
making my determinations
Stoy Hall (36:55):
overall.
Yeah.
I mean I, agree on a lot ofthose.
The chiefs will force her tothrow the ball that, that has to
be their game plan.
I don't understand if they didsomething else.
That is the game plan.
I'm running zone.
I'm not letting them run theball if he picks me apart for
360 yards and beats us.
I can live with that, right?
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I cannot live with him runningfor 150.
And then, we're out hereguessing, running around,
guessing.
So that has to happen.
Yeah.
The quick passing game of thechiefs has to hit the sidelines.
They have to get this defensiveline running, and they have to
get them running early.
The only way to beat this joke,gr not of a front eight, but not
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even front eight.
They have they're, too deep onthe front four, right?
You got to get them Gased, soyou need to just do everything
on the outside.
Quick pass is get them runningand then you can hopefully lean
on Pacheco later if you need to,but I believe they're going to
attack from those perspectives.
I agree.
I think the Eagle's backend isweaker or unproven because they
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haven't needed to be.
When you have 70 somethingsacks, and that means you're
probably close to doubling thatin Hus.
It's not really hard to cover.
At all.
Okay?
But I think the Chief's quickgame can take that away.
And the only way that the Eaglescould try to take that away is
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if they go press, man, that's avery, scary situation because
guess what?
Kelsey is gonna be sitting thereand how are you gonna match him
up?
Yeah.
So those are my things, andagain, obviously we've already
talked about it, but Mahomes ishealth.
Can he stay healthy for fourquarters?
That'll be the big difference.
I do not believe Hertz isconfident right now in his
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passing ability.
I don't think he has been sincethe Bear's game, since his
injury, which again, I stilldon't believe by the way he was
fully injured.
And so I'm going to just testhis arm, test his mentality of,
I you have to throw verse three50 to beat us, right?
If you don.
We're gonna beat you
Cole Ingle (39:02):
now.
Here we will.
I'll play devil's advocate alittle bit from an offense
defense perspective.
Excuse me.
From a confidence perspective,if I play zone, and I don't try
to confuse hertz, but I'm justmaking him throw the ball.
But if I give him easy throwsagainst a zone early where it's
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yeah, we might be in a, we mightbe in a run call a and I need to
either audible or my, RPO runpass option turns into a pass
and I have an easy out route, aneasy curl route, an easy seam
route that I'm allowed to throwearly, does that not give me
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more confidence when I need tothrow the pressman, go route
late, or as the chiefs have tocome up, and start respecting me
hitting 5, 7, 10, 12 to 15 yardgains.
Moving the ball down the fieldconsistently, if I'm able to do
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that.
Is, that not a, is that a littlebit of a concern or We're, going
to make you earn that for fourquarters.
And that's that's where we'regoing to make if you do it,
Yeah.
Stoy Hall (40:21):
Tip the cap.
Yes.
No, that, that'd be yourconcern.
But I'm, I would not come out injust a more vanilla look.
I would try to confuse him.
He's still young, right?
So you're gonna come out and tryto confuse the hell out of him.
And then you're gonna play offof that.
If you don't confuse him.
Oops, we messed that one up.
And then you're probably gonnago more to your man and, all of
(40:43):
those things.
He
Cole Ingle (40:44):
starts you talking
like zone blitz playing soft
behind type of stuff, or are youtalking more just rush forward?
Drop seven.
Make him actually go through aprogression.
Stoy Hall (40:55):
Yeah, but I'm gonna
be showing pressure.
Okay.
I want him to be thinking, Iwant him to think as much as
possible.
But I'm dropping seven.
Yeah.
And making sure if my, and thatyou also have to test your front
four.
You have to test their old line.
Now, testing that old line is avery bad idea.
AudioPt (41:10):
Mean
Cole Ingle (41:10):
if they let Wayne
Johnson go a half a,
Stoy Hall (41:12):
oh my, then you might
as well half, then you might as
well blitz 17.
Like you're not getting helpthat has to be taken care of
right.
In the Super Bowl.
But you have to test your frontfour on their front five.
You have to test Hertz's abilityto make those reads.
And so I'm gonna crowd the line,make it look like I'm in, man.
Make it look like I'm trying tostop the run.
And then we're just gonna bailout.
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We're gonna switch those up awhile.
Okay.
And to see what he, how hereacts.
Cuz I cannot trust him to fourquarters.
Do a Mahomes nickel and dimeo.
He, doesn't have that.
I also thought Mahomes couldn'tdo it.
But he has done, I
Cole Ingle (41:47):
mean, they've grown
that offense into that base on
their personnel.
Exactly.
But
Stoy Hall (41:51):
I never thought he
would have that mentality.
But he has.
Hertz is too young to have that.
He hasn't been through it.
Mahomes
Cole Ingle (41:58):
has that mentality
to a point where like within the
offense, that's what they'redoing.
But he still doesn't to the factthat and I've pointed this out
multiple times with him, is thathe'll leave a clean pocket.
And so that's where he stillgets a little antsy is like, and
you get a little bit biggerplays, even though you're not
throwing the balls far down thefield, you're giving your guys
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more time to get separation.
Create a mismatch or createsomething where a defender falls
down, loses track of a guy.
Maybe you hit a guy on a wheelroute, maybe you get Kelsey on a
playground route which happens alot for the Chiefs.
And on the podcast earlier thisweek that Travis and Jason do,
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Jason asked Travis like, how thehell do you get so open?
Like guys are game they'reclearly game planning against
you.
Kelsey's play for Andy Reid, hecan get anybody open.
He said something, I was smartass, but something along those
lines is basically like AndyReid will get you open.
Yeah.
And then also he gives them theleeway as far as option routes
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and stuff like that, thatMahomes and Kelsey can do so
many different things thataren't even necessarily within
Andy Reid, getting them open andscheming them open.
On top of that.
So you, combine Genius playcalling with two guys who are on
another level when it comes toreading each other within a
(43:29):
broken or semi broken play.
And that's why you get thephenomenon that is Mahomes to
Kelsey.
Absolutely.
So that's that's just anotherfun thing to watch and, watch
how the Eagles scheme againstthat.
Stoy Hall (43:42):
So speaking of the
Kelsey Brothers pick the game.
Which brother do you
Cole Ingle (43:46):
want to win?
Oh I, would much rather haveTravis win, but that's simply
because his interview's gonna beas, entertaining as Jason's
would be, he has a family andlike his, entertainment is only
gonna be so high.
Like he's as enjoyable as Traviswhen it comes to the podcasting.
But as far as like in the momentcelebrations, like what we got
(44:08):
last week from Travis, basicallytelling the mayor of Cincinnati
to suck it.
Yeah.
And burrow that it's not hisstadium.
Like you're just gonna get moreraw emotion and less give a shit
outta Travis.
So it's gonna be more innertechnique.
The other
Stoy Hall (44:22):
side, Jason?
Yeah.
May or may not have a kit.
They are literally bringingtheir OB show to
Cole Ingle (44:28):
the game.
Yeah.
We, so you got that storyline.
You, volunteered to be the OB,didn't you?
Yeah, absolutely.
I think my wife did.
She could call in, just in caselike I can catch
Stoy Hall (44:36):
a baby.
I catch a baby.
I've had a couple of them.
So that's the storyline betweenthe, Kelsey Brothers, which I
think is right.
Phenomenal.
Then you've got the otherbrother type story line.
Yeah.
First two blacks startingquarterbacks
Cole Ingle (44:50):
and youngest
combined ages of starting
quarterbacks in NFL history.
Pretty big names just under, Ibelieve it was 51 years in
either seven months or 10months, something like that
between the two.
So youngest, combined, age oftwo starting quarterbacks in
Superbowl
Stoy Hall (45:07):
history.
So it's, really cool storylinesfrom that perspective.
Very happy to go into it.
And that's one of the, my wholepoint to this.
I don't care who wins really.
I honestly I, obviously what thechiefs win cuz I can win money
on that bet, but outside ofthat, this should be just a hell
of a game.
Yeah.
I don't hate any player oneither team.
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I'm not rooting against for oneor another.
Obviously I have more chiefsfans as friends than I do Eagles
fans, but like still it's like.
this is a, this is one of thoseSuper Bowl matchups where you
really, hope that every year islike where two teams, high
caliber, both sides.
Being able to go head to headand relatively healthy, right?
(45:50):
Yeah.
Cole Ingle (45:50):
And we even hit on
it last week as far as win all
four of the teams that playingwere healthy.
There really wasn't going to bea bad matchup in the Super Bowl.
And there was, it was hard tohate anybody.
Now there's certain people thathate certain guys, certain
people hate Mahomes, hateborough, whatever.
You want to wanna say a lot ofpeople that just hate the Eagles
in general.
That's more Philly, that's aPhilly thing.
That's a Philly thing.
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But generally speaking then itwas gonna be four teams that
deserve to be in the Super Bowl,that type of thing.
And I think that's what fansrespect the most, is just they
didn't feel like anybody luckedinto the Super Bowl, right?
We got the two number one seeds.
At the end of the day, peoplelike upsets.
It's like March Madness.
People love upsets.
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Until it comes down to Eliteeight, final Four.
And then you wanna see the bluebloods go at it, kick, scratch,
claw.
And you wanna see the best ofthe best, the ones that earned
their spot there.
Two number one seeds.
We don't see that no too oftenanymore with the parody in the
nfl.
And then they match up, likethey do Exact points, records,
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all of those things.
Going to be an extremely funone.
I'm definitely going to beleaning chiefs as I have more
Chiefs fans in my life.
But the biggest thing, and it'sa broken record here, the refs
cannot have a memorable impacton this game.
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And my fear is it's going tohappen.
It's
Stoy Hall (47:19):
pro.
The way this year's
Cole Ingle (47:21):
gone, yeah.
I just, I don't see it.
Not, and not having a dog in thefight.
It drags me down thinking aboutit, and I will literally be
waiting the entire game for itto happen.
And that's super disappointing.
(47:42):
Just as you were talking aboutthat, like that cloud came over
me and I was just like, that'sshitty.
But it's what the NFL has put infront of us and has delivered as
a product all season.
Playoffs included that at somepoint during the game, the
officials almost every week andin almost every game have made
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themselves an unnecessary partof the game.
And so somehow I hope that getscorrected this week that they
don't miss a call, that theydon't screw a team out of a,
challenge or a touchdown oranything that is remotely.
(48:28):
Tide changing from a momentumstandpoint or anything like
that.
Understand there's gonna bemistakes made holds missed
whatever.
There's gonna be penalties outthere.
Like that stuff's gonna happen,but when the game matters, let
the players decide it.
And so if you're gonna let LaneJohnson jump off sides the whole
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game, then you know, we're goingto have to miss a late hit on a
quarterback or whatever it maybe, that might be questionable.
Like a, graze on the helmet.
Like as long as those thingsoffset, I will be okay.
As soon as they don't, or startleaning one way or the other.
And I will say like when we lookback two weeks what happened
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with the Eagles being veryone-sided, even though they
kicked the shit out of the49ers, that game was a very
one-sided officiated game.
Chief Bengals leaned towards theChiefs being one-sided even
though the Bengals got a couplecalls back.
So it ended up being almosteven.
(49:32):
But I would say that would thateven leaned towards the chiefs a
little bit?
Absolutely.
And I don't wanna see either oneof those things happen in this
game.
Again, likely inevitable becauseof what we've seen this year,
but they have the technology toget it right, so
Stoy Hall (49:47):
just get it right.
I just think I, know I'm, I'llknow the first snap if Lane
Johnson gets to D do that, I,it, that to me already swings it
in Eagles favor.
Juan
Cole Ingle (50:00):
also as noted
before, but not this week yet
head referee for the game has,his crew has thrown the most
penalty flags of any crew allseason.
So that also has me.
down and I like, there's noreason I should be down about
the Super Bowl.
But those things have beenconsistent all year.
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There's no reason to expect anychanges.
No.
So it would be the most amazingsurprise if somehow we were to
get through the game and Ididn't remember reffing being,
being
Stoy Hall (50:35):
an issue.
We have the technology, we havea chip, we have all the angles
in the world.
Yeah.
Buzz it down.
There should be no challengeflags that are needed.
Let alone taken away.
Like not needed.
And you throw a flag on LaneJohnson twice, for all starting
I'm good.
Yeah.
The holding stuff.
Yeah.
You'll have those, right?
You're gonna miss those.
Yeah.
Nothing egregious.
Let's let them play.
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But let them play within theconfines.
Yeah.
I swear I'm a hit upon it.
Who?
I might tweet it.
I might live chat it.
Yeah.
I swear to God if, Lynn Johnsonis able to false start every
play, right?
What's the point?
We're
Cole Ingle (51:09):
just, what are we
playing?
We're headed just giving anadvantages to start.
Here's the question that I haveas we've had this conversation,
it came to my mind is whobenefits more from being allowed
to, as you said, play, whichmost of the time in the Super
Bowl this they, do let, themplay.
They do.
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Do you see a, distinct advantageon either side for letting a
defense specifically?
That's what we're usuallytalking about, letting a defense
basically get hands onreceivers.
Cuz that's more so where they'lllet them play comes into today's
NFL is how physical can I.
In one-on-one, how physical canI be within the five yard
contact zone?
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Maybe seven to 10 when it comesto some leeway.
As far as one-on-one balls downthe field.
Are we gonna throw pi?
Are we gonna let'em play throughthat?
Unless somebody's gettingtackled, that type of stuff.
Do you feel strongly that oneteam benefits more than the
other in that I would
Stoy Hall (52:12):
only say because the
receiving core for the eagles is
deeper.
With bigger playmakers.
That offensively.
It's leaned that way for me.
Cole Ingle (52:24):
Okay.
And I like immediately that'swhere mine went, mind went as
well, simply because I think theEagles one, the Eagles are known
to take more deep shots likethat.
As far as one-on-one shots.
The only thing I would, theother side of that is, Travis
Kelsey.
Correct.
And if the Eagles are allowed toone, they're gonna double team
him, most likely.
I sure as hell hope so.
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If I'm game planning againstthem, I'm making any of the
other chiefs receivers beat me.
But also the fact that can theypush him, can they throw him off
his route at the line ofscrimmage?
Now again, Andy Reid brilliantin lining him up in places to be
successful.
Even if he is being doubleteamed and Mahomes and him will,
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we're more than likely find away to connect.
But if they are allowed to bephysical with him, that wears
him out for late in the game.
Stoy Hall (53:18):
It also gets into him
mentally.
He, has a little short fuse.
A hundred percent.
And if that
Cole Ingle (53:23):
happens, yeah.
That's why Yeah I, get you, I,my, immediately my mind went to
you, but then when I flipped itback, I was like Devonte Smith
not a real physical guy, buthe's a fast guy.
So if you can be physical withhim anyway, like I don't really
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even know if that would beoutside the norm.
Yeah, aJ Brown is a guy that isgoing to invite contact.
Yes.
Is a g a guy that wants, hewants to hand fight, he wants to
battle one-on-one, he wants totry to moss you if you will.
Whereas, and it's not likeKelsey's not used to it, but I
think that can throw the chiefsoff from a timing perspective
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because Mahomes is gonna need toget the ball out of his hand.
I think more.
often to someone else in a quickfactor, get through a read
right, get off of Kelsey, ifthat's the case.
Could have a bigger impact onthe Chiefs than Hertz trying to
get the ball off to receiverswhere God, it's probably gonna
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be in one-on-one situations.
You get Miles Sanders out thebackfield in one-on-one
situations, or he's just gonnatuck it and run.
It's,
Stoy Hall (54:39):
definitely it that
point hole leads to it's, more
beneficial for the Eaglesoverall.
Just, more beneficial in thatregard.
Alright.
Hey, before we get into actuallypicking, do you want to, do you
want to do this though?
Okay.
(55:00):
Coin toss.
Heads or tails?
I'm a tails guy.
Yeah, me too.
So we're gonna put 10 bucks intails.
Okay.
Done.
All right.
So let's get into it.
Odds have not changed since wespoke.
Thank God.
Cuz that would be a problem ifthey did.
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Again, Eagles are favored.
One and a half money line minus1 22 total is 50 and a half.
What say you
Cole Ingle (55:35):
All of this talks
done nothing but continue to as
you can see back and forth ahundred times, we have picks
written down.
I, yeah, I I did not write mypicks down because head and
harder in different spots.
Head says Philadelphia is a morecomplete.
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It tells me that in Super Bowls,as complete teams have come into
Super Bowls, they have defeatedwhat, in my opinion, would be
better quarterbacks as a generaloutcome.
Hart says Jaylen Hertz isn'tgonna beat Pat Homes.
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Yep.
Yep.
They're gonna find a way.
Mahomes is healthy.
Andy Reid.
Slight advantage in the headcoaching, but not a huge one.
Both coaches I think are gonnatake chances.
So whichever one takes thebigger chance.
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The Eagles are really good inthird and fourth and short.
The chiefs are really bad,really
Stoy Hall (56:45):
bad.
Cross the board.
By the way.
Offense, defense, bad
Cole Ingle (56:49):
big games usually
come down to.
big types of those situationshappen more in bigger games and
competitive games.
So that's, what keeps pushing meback to the, heads, the head
instead of the heart.
(57:10):
So I'm leaning Eagles.
Yeah.
I just think that they have abetter chance to make some
mistakes, not play perfectfootball and not even perfect,
but they have a better chance toplay 80% and win than the chiefs
do.
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Or 75% whatever you wanna callit.
They have a chance to still bein the game based on making
plays in other areas.
Then I think that the chiefshave to be a little bit, as far
as turnovers, anything likethat.
I just think.
in the red zone, the Eagles aremore multiple, more likely to
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score touchdown than the Chiefsor not, settle for a field goal.
Those types of things.
And when the game's only one anda half, those things matter.
The chiefs have averagedsomewhere around 24, 25 points a
game.
I think in the playoffs.
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The Eagles are 34, 35.
I don't give too much.
The Eagles haven't playedanybody.
In my opinion.
I think the Chiefs will be thebest defense they face.
They'll also be the bestoffense.
They face the face.
Yeah.
And the Chiefs will be trying toplay a more controlled game.
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And so will the Eagles.
And so I do see this as anunder, actually.
I can definitely see it goingover 27, 24.
28, 24 somewhere in that range.
But I think somehow this gamestays under her and I think that
it ends up being like a 24, 23something like that.
(58:58):
I think there are going to be Ithink both defensive
coordinators are gonna set up towhere there ends up being a
couple field goals for bothsides.
Where teams can move the ball alittle bit, bend, but don't
break.
Both defense is able to create alittle havoc, maybe in the red
zone create a sack or somethinglike that, puts a team out of
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red zone or back into field goalrange type of thing, instead of
scoring a touchdown.
So I will go under the 50 and ahalf and I will go.
I'm just gonna completely bitchout.
I'll go Philly to win in, KansasCity to cover.
Okay, Ryan?
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I said 24.
23 in my
Stoy Hall (59:43):
defense.
Yeah, I will screw your defense.
Cole Ingle (59:47):
That's exactly how I
feel about the game.
It's such a it's a fence.
It's a fence.
Bet it, it, is
Stoy Hall (59:52):
a fence bed.
Yeah.
It also just a coin toss, whichI go with tails.
If this case where do you wantme to put this?
Just put it just there in thismatter.
We've hit upon it multipletimes.
And you know what?
As the, defensive guy, Iactually do not see these teams
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stopping each other as much.
Turnovers obviously again, wedon't bet on turnovers.
However, if turnovers do notoccur I believe they will punch
it in.
There's too much going onoffensively.
So I'm actually gonna go over.
Okay.
And I, do believe it's more of a27, 24, 30, 27 game.
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I'm gonna say it's 37, 34, justbecause that's what has already
been projected.
So I'm gonna just throw that outthere.
But I do believe it'll, be a 27,24 type game.
Now you made such the goodpoint.
And this is where I was goingto, was the Eagles are able to
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over, they're gonna be able toovercome more in this game than
the chiefs.
And injuries, mistakes, really,any of that.
The chiefs have a very fine linefor them.
Mahomes can't go down.
Kelsey can't go down.
They have to be able to protect.
He can't just be running arounddefensively.
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They can't lose another DB atall.
And so you start adding all ofthose things up and you, just
have to go with a team that isdeeper.
And, for that fact, I'm gonnago, I'm gonna go Eagles.
Eagles.
37 34.
37.
34.
Yep.
Got it.
(01:01:46):
Don't be surprised if that's 27,24, but 37 34.
Eagles fly.
Cole Ingle (01:01:51):
Eagles.
However, man, we're
Stoy Hall (01:01:57):
both on the Eagles.
If the Chiefs win and I have todo a shitty shot because of it.
Yeah.
Amen.
Hey, 550 bucks.
I, will buy'em.
All
Cole Ingle (01:02:08):
Let's see.
So there is a chance here basedon results with over, under
being different.
And so we could tie that, wecould tie, so we need
Tiebreaker.
Which can be, we can any one
Stoy Hall (01:02:28):
I'm looking at these
like side thousand, I'm looking
at these different side things.
Bets.
Yep.
Let's see what these, prop betsI haven't
Cole Ingle (01:02:37):
seen.
And I was trying to look to seewhat the MVP odds are.
I would assume Hertz in my homesare one and two.
Stoy Hall (01:02:47):
They're, I know
they're one and 1,
Cole Ingle (01:02:49):
1 30 each.
Okay.
Stoy Hall (01:02:54):
Just got this, by the
way, this is a super world
special.
AJ Brown, four plus receptions.
Kelsey five plus minus 200.
Yeah.
All right.
You should probably take that's,gonna happen.
Don't disagree.
Let's see.
(01:03:15):
Coin toss.
Winner last play of the game tobe a quarterback.
Neil, why would that even bevegetable?
The odds of it being it's onlyminus two 30.
The last play of the game.
Yeah.
Besides a game-winning fieldgoal.
It all depends on, in a HailMary.
The, rest are all Neils.
(01:03:36):
Oh.
Yeah.
I don't, there's some fun onesin here.
Will the two minute warning beexactly at two minutes?
you gotta go with No.
Yeah, you absolutely have to gowith Noah.
Plus 4, 4, 10
Cole Ingle (01:03:53):
Oh yeah.
Stoy Hall (01:03:55):
Some good ones.
What will happen first?
A sack or a touchdown scored?
those are minus one 10.
Cole Ingle (01:04:04):
What's the, I know
you, we can't bet it here in
Iowa because it is not a gameprop, but have you seen numbers
on length of let's see, was itlength of national anthem?
Usually it's somewhere aroundtwo minutes or so.
That's fine.
The over unders usually rightaround two minutes.
Always good ones.
(01:04:24):
So there's, you're gonna haveall of those, obviously a ton of
game day and during and in gamebetting for the Super Bowl
number one day in the, of theyear for Vegas.
Simply because there's so manyprops.
It's right up there with thefirst day.
The only thing but you have afirst day of n ncaa March
(01:04:49):
badness just because you have somany ga, so many games.
That's true.
But those are the big times.
Wild Card Weekend is actually.
A top three or four weekend inVegas.
Simply cuz number of games, andprestige of games.
Yeah.
But overall just a really funweekend.
(01:05:10):
Again my, one hope if, I, ifonly one thing can happen all
weekend for me it's the, lack ofimpact of referee that they
don't don't overdo it.
And also that you don't underdoit, that you make the calls you
need to, don't get me wrong, butyeah don't be memorable.
(01:05:33):
Yeah.
Stoy Hall (01:05:33):
And I, obviously I
would take that one.
I'm just gonna go with health.
I, hope there's no big injuries.
Good one.
And we can just play mano allgame long without the refs,
obviously, and just see who'sthe better team at the end.
Yeah, just a bunch of warriorsgetting at it.
And we can all respect the hellof that 100.
(01:05:54):
So super bowlen, enjoy.
Look at that.
Got him.
Look at, got him.
And we'll be back next week tobreak that down and we'll start
getting, obviously golf.
This gonna be there, but MarchMadness is coming.
Drake has.