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February 15, 2023 104 mins

In this episode, we begin by discussing their experience of doing the financial books for their business, which took over two and a half hours. Then move on to discuss the Phoenix Open and the Super Bowl. 

We offer their initial reactions to the Super Bowl and the controversial call that determined the game's outcome. Finally, we discuss upcoming golf events, TIGER IS BACK and college basketball, as well as the NFL's off-season news and moving parts.

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Stoy Hall (00:17):
All right, ladies and jets, I have just spent the last
two and a half hours doingbooks.
Yep.
Not reading, not signing them,but doing the transactions for
our financial books.
I'm not an accountant, but I hadto help cuz.
Well, you know,

Cole Ingle (00:37):
did you stay at a holiday in Express last night?
Apparently.
Ah, alright.

Stoy Hall (00:41):
Um, bad choice.
Who?
So that's fun.
Um, for all those that have todo that as business owners, I,
you know, obviously I do a lotof those, but the last two and a
half hours I have been doingthose.
So I, I Anywho, huh uh, you'vegot Stoy Hall here.
I was a linebacker at DrakeUniversity.

(01:01):
And then we've got Cole Engle,

Cole Ingle (01:02):
uh, former, uh, Drake University quarterback
Softy.

Stoy Hall (01:07):
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what, that's whatyou wear.
Hey,

Cole Ingle (01:10):
but we're the and my day.
That's true.
Actually.
We took the hard hits.
You did that.
And nobody cares about us cuz wewere never on tv, so we never
got any flags.

Stoy Hall (01:20):
You also, there was no RPOs or any of that stuff
too.
Right?
Right.
But let's, there was lessoptions, but hey, here we are.
We're the

Cole Ingle (01:25):
Goon Squad.
Mine was just a PO by the way.

Stoy Hall (01:28):
Yeah, just the po Yeah.
I had one option.
Right.
I guess you could fall.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways.
All right.
So pos no play option in sac.
That was your only two, twooptions anyways.
Uh, so here we are.
Um, if you all were not aware,there was an event this, this

(01:49):
weekend, um, that, uh, kind ofcame down to the wire.
There was a lot involved.
Yeah.
Um, it was kind of exciting andthrilling, but uh, Scheffler
pulled it off, so Right.

Cole Ingle (02:05):
suckers.
I mean, honestly though, like ifyou were watching, um, the golf
beforehand, uh, you got the samefeeling in the golf tournament
that you did.
Yeah.
Good.
Set up, couple of, uh, closecalls and then we just, you
didn't have it at the end likeyou thought you might get in
Yeah, absolutely.
For the 18th, so you're notwrong.

(02:25):
Uh,

Stoy Hall (02:26):
well played sir.
Well played.
So we'll recap, obviously.
Um, the Phoenix Open, we'llrecap that, uh, bowl of Super.
Um, and then we'll get into thisweek, which is no more football,
sadly.
Oh, so what happened?
Well, I mean,

Cole Ingle (02:42):
xfl Yeah.

Stoy Hall (02:44):
We don't cover that on a weekly basis.
Okay.
Um, highlights, though we might.
But what happens after the SuperBowl for us?
Oh, well, we get into highlightof golf, right?
Golf takes center stage.
Um, we'll do a little bit ofcollege basketball.
But what's huge in theoff-season for us on the NFL
side is all the news, all themoving parts.
Um, that's where we'll get thehighlights of, um, and you'll

(03:07):
hear a lot more from us from anews perspective there, but golf
is, golf is king.
Yeah.
And the king of golf is makinghis way back this week.
He is indeed.
And if you don't know who it is,you'll find out later.
So let's, uh, let's get into,um, if you don't know

Cole Ingle (03:23):
who it is, you're, you're probably not go home

Stoy Hall (03:25):
like you're Alex, you're probably not listening to
us.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
So let's, let's start with theSuper Bowl, just so we can go
golf, golf, the rest of the,the, the afternoon.
Um, first initial gut reactionwhen that, you know, at the end,
like just gimme everything.
Your first initial gut.
Um,

Cole Ingle (03:49):
Wow.
It's tough.
I had very gutty, I had tworeactions.
Um, I had, we have one gut, soI, uh, I'm watching with my
wife, uh, at this point.
Ah, that's right.
Who is a huge Chiefs fan, right?
That's fair.
Uh, so the initial reaction ishold, and then the reaction is
you still want the Eagles tohave a chance to go down the

(04:13):
field.
Um, so it's, it, it's tworeactions.
It's a, the play itself doesn'tlook big enough to make the, the
play itself doesn't look bigenough to make the impact that
it made.
Unfortunately.
You know, you see a guy grab ajersey when the guy's trying to

(04:33):
run the other way and he pullsit off of his back, like if they
see it, they're probably gonnathrow the flag there.
Now, it wasn't called, uh, acouple times earlier in the
game, uh, on either side.
uh, they didn't see it.
They didn't throw it.
I don't, I mean, I don't know.
They let'em play mostly thegame.
I think there were nine totalpenalties, um, which was

Stoy Hall (04:54):
overall, that was well done by the way.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (04:57):
Um, I guess give, give your initial reaction.
I think, I think yours wasstronger than mine.
If I'm, if I'm being honest.
Just based on our text back andforth and stuff like that as
well.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (05:06):
Uh, absolutely.
It was, it was a hundred percenta hold.
I don't, I don't know why we're,we're all up in arms.
Um, it was a hold.
It is what it is.
Don't do that.
Um, now the defender himselfeven said the same thing.
Yeah.
Right.
Now, the, and this is what wetexted about, is I don't think
the penalty was necessarilythrown because of the tug.
Or the actual jersey pole, itwas because his momentum was

(05:30):
drastically reduced.
Mm-hmm.
if, if it would've just beenfull speed, I don't want, I
think he was open for atouchdown, so let's, let's start
there too.
Mm-hmm.
uh, it's just he impeded him somuch in that route in terms of
a, uh, timing and, and, um,speed reduction of that pole.
Mm-hmm.
that's what needed to be called,in my opinion.

Cole Ingle (05:48):
Right.
Which it happened twice.
Yeah.
I mean, you had the hold andthen you had the, the hip ground
thing.
Right.
That ch they kept him from goingupfield.
So like you have two differenttimes when you're, I to your
point, impeding momentum.
Yeah.
Uh,

Stoy Hall (05:59):
on route.
I think the second one, I thinkthe first one would've been
fine.
I think he would've let it go.
But you do it again,

Cole Ingle (06:07):
like, I think if only one of the two items
happens, maybe you don't needthe flag.
We're good.
I think we're

Stoy Hall (06:10):
good.
But I also think if one of, onlyone of'em two happens, it's a.
No, I'm, he's beat street.
Yeah, he did it cuz he's beat.
Oh yeah.
I,

Cole Ingle (06:18):
that's why.
And it was one of the few plays,the Eagles actually got pressure
on Mahomes.
Correct?
Um, yeah,

Stoy Hall (06:23):
there's, I but that's why like the, he knew pressure
was coming.
Yeah.
Um, cuz they, they blitz, he hasto play up.
He got beat.
He, he's going to hold because atouchdown beats him.
Mm-hmm.
like it's, it's for sure overright.
With a touchdown.
Yeah.
I, and so as a defender, I mean,but

Cole Ingle (06:40):
ultimately it's not.

Stoy Hall (06:42):
No.
I mean, you have more time.
Yeah.
I mean,

Cole Ingle (06:44):
I mean all those things.
Well, I mean, ultimately whenyou look at it, they wanted to
let, they've tried to let himscore in the next play.
That's also true.

Stoy Hall (06:50):
Um,

Cole Ingle (06:51):
fair.
So I, you know, I mean it's,it's one of those things that we
talk about and this is somethingwe might as well just jump into
now.
Uh, since we're at that point inthe game.
You give them a first down,you're out of timeouts.
Um, now it's a run the clockdown.
We don't care if we only getthree points from an offensive
perspective.
and that conversation has alwaystalked about of McKinnon, almost

(07:15):
scored, ends up sliding.
You want to know what was goingthrough his mind at like, at
what point did he know he wassliding down at the one yard
line?
Did he know the whole time ordid he finally realize, oh, you
know, did they talk about it inthe huddle?
I've gotta assume yes.
But then when we look back tothe holding play on the Eagles,

(07:36):
it's never really talked aboutit from a defensive mindset
until after.
It's a foregone conclusion thatyou need to let them score.
It's, you know, if he lets themscore on the play before or you
have more time.
Right.
And not, not even lets himscore, but does not commit the
penalty.
Right.
Um, you know, once he's beat andthey score a touchdown, you're

(07:59):
in the same position that youwere on the very next play.
Yeah.
And I don't think that reallyever gets talked about or looked
at because at that point it wassmart to try to let them score.
And you were hoping that thechiefs would score.

Stoy Hall (08:10):
I mean, there was what?
Minute, minute, 20.
Yeah.
There

Cole Ingle (08:13):
was time.
There were plenty of time.
Plenty of time if they let himscore or if they score.
Um, you know, on the thirddownplay right, they gave them a
first down.
Um, but ultimately the chiefswere going to get points there
no matter what.
It was just gonna be a matterof, of timing.
And the disappointment comes inhow well both quarterbacks

(08:35):
played.
Yeah.
And it was an offensivejuggernaut pretty much no sacks
allowed in the game, as I, I hiton zero.
Who got sacked?
Uh,

Stoy Hall (08:47):
Hertz got sacked twice.
Well, I, he ran

Cole Ingle (08:50):
out, he ran outta bounds with Right, but I don't
think they were like no po likeno.
Oh yeah, no.
On like in the

Stoy Hall (08:56):
pocket.
They were statistics, sex, butnot like

Cole Ingle (08:59):
actual sex.
They were, I think they wereactually recorded as negative.
Oh, they were?
Oh, well, good.
Uh, but either way, like rightas far as getting someone down
in the pocket and.
Um, you know, so I, I, I justthink that that that goes a long
ways and obviously that was abigger deal for the Chiefs, in
my opinion, than it was for theEagles, but a big deal for both

(09:20):
teams.
Yeah.
No matter what.
Uh, so the fact that you didn'tget to go, you know, see her.
Yes.
Yeah.
Um, you know, did he haveanother drive?
Did he have another absolutepinpoint dart of a throw that he
could make?
He made three or four throughoutthe game.
Probably did.
Um, yeah.
You know, um, you know, probablyat least one, it seemed like all
game long.

(09:40):
Our, our texts back and forth,um, were about how the chiefs
were in defensive position.
Really.
Like all game, on every playthat mattered.
They were in the right positionand they made the play on the
fumble.
Yeah.
Um, and a couple other playslate.

(10:01):
it seemed and felt like evenright up until the end that the
Eagles kept finding a way whenit mattered the most to make the
plays and then they didn't get achance to at the end.
So that's where thedisappointment lies from that
perspective.

Stoy Hall (10:12):
From that from a game perspective.
Absolutely.
Like I knew it had to be called,which sucks.
And deflate the ending of thegame.
Cuz you want a cool finish,especially in a game like that.
That was a, that was a reallygood game.
Mm-hmm.
like it was good.
Top to bottom.
Yep.
Um, you know, let's be realabout it, but everyone wants to
talk about that.
They, you know, the eagles gotscrewed at the end.

(10:32):
I never thought about your pointof view of if he would've just
not held him and let him score,they would've had way more time.
Mm-hmm.
and I even thought about that soclearly it was not in the
defensive huddle on that play,but I mean, it wouldn't be

Cole Ingle (10:43):
because you're crying.

Stoy Hall (10:44):
It's too early.
Score zero and zero points.
They were 20, the 20 then.

Cole Ingle (10:49):
Well ultimately if they get yards out, like no, I
mean they would've been on thelike 18, just inside the 20, but
Yeah.
But here already admits a 43yarder.
So, and also if you get thestop.
they kick the field goal and youget the ball back with the same
amount of time.
The same time.
So you, you're not even havingconver the conversation.
Correct.
But it's just like, if everyonewants to look at hindsight, well
then I'll look all the way backto the plate where you Right,

(11:10):
that's fair.
The

Stoy Hall (11:10):
hold.
So that's fair now, but, youknow, towards, you know, just to
have that end that way.
But let's, let's be honest here.
Eagles fans, your defense didn'tstop the chiefs once in the
second half.
No.
You want, you want problems,that's your problem.

Cole Ingle (11:25):
And also, the only time they did stop them, or the
only time that the ch the Eaglesfans are complaining about was
on the holding call, they onlyscored three points on that
possession.
The rest of them you gave upset.

Stoy Hall (11:35):
Just, just, just saying there was there

Cole Ingle (11:37):
and you gave us 21 more points.
And a couple of those touchdownsweren't, I could've thrown to
you or you could've thrown to melefty.
They got

Stoy Hall (11:47):
outcoached.
And I cannot wait for us to talkabout that in the second place.
But like spanked Outcoached,that was a vet coach saying, no,
no, we're good.
And guess what?
I know exactly what you're doingon defense.
I, sorry about it.

Cole Ingle (12:03):
Sorry about it.
I know so much about what you'redoing on defense.
I'm gonna call it a damn corndog.
Yeah.
Literally calling it a, we'regonna watch the play corn dog
here in a little bit, man.
And, and to

Stoy Hall (12:11):
say like, they found that defense from week five
Yeah.
When they played theJacksonville, Jaguar.
Yeah.
That's how in depth.
And I was listening to, I don'tknow what podcast I was
listening to today, but how indepth in the NFL you can go from
a study and research standpointon a team.
Yeah.
They were running this defenseand they went back to week

Cole Ingle (12:28):
five Yeah.
To see how they would playcertain, not only did they

Stoy Hall (12:32):
run it formations once, they ran it twice.
And we will get to that on adefensive topic.
I hope we have, I think, I don'tknow if we have film on that,

Cole Ingle (12:40):
but Yeah, I've got the, I put the dual images on
it.
I drive good because they, uh,it was both the Tony and the
bad, more touchdowns just bad.

Stoy Hall (12:47):
Uh, but overall, I, I was, I enjoyed I biggest

Cole Ingle (12:50):
disappointment.
I mean, mine's easy.

Stoy Hall (12:56):
Um, yeah, bucker missing that field goal because
I put a bet on it.
But anyway.
That's fair.
Um, biggest disappointment?
Um, honestly, it was, um, theeight deep for the Eagles for
me.
I said that was a huge proponentand yeah.
That you, and, and I'm nottaking away from the chief's

(13:16):
offensive line.
They balled out mm-hmm.
But when you're, when you'reeight deep and you have those
players, and they did nothing,they couldn't get to Mahomes
when he was relatively healthyand then they couldn't get to
him when he was gimping.
Mm-hmm.
That's, that's poor,

Cole Ingle (13:31):
that's fair.
Uh, biggest disappointment,field conditions.
Oh, geez.
Um, we saw at some point stacksof shoes on one of the
sidelines.
Uh, and we literally saw on, Iwould say 75% of plays, either
an offensive or defensive playerslipping or not being able to

(13:51):
accelerate how they normallywould.
Uh, To make a play, whether itbe, I think it really killed
Philly's pass rush.
Yeah.
I mean I think it killed Kansascities as well, but I think the
bigger impact that was why isYeah, every time they got to
turn a corner, they were, theywere on skis, uh, you know, and

(14:11):
they might as well just, I mean,three or four different times,
they just fell down, comingaround the corner first,
starting on the very first playof the game, you know, and you
can make those adjustments, buton top of the field itself being
slick or the turf not being, youknow, this is 11 month grass and
there was all of these thingsand then, I mean, it was a huge
letdown because you were waitingevery play for someone to slip

(14:36):
or not be able to get tosomebody or it change whatever
may be.
And it change that.
And then they paint where theypainted on the field,
specifically the logo aroundmidfield, so slick.
Uh, they were on skates there aswell.
And that was just like runningbacks, trying to take a handoff
and run up the field, like justfalling down.
Yeah.
And so, that's a good point.
The NFL like, That's somethingyou can control and just, you
don't ever want field conditionsto make a difference in the

(15:00):
game.
Now obviously both teams areplaying on it.
Mm-hmm.
so it's an even playing field,if you will.
But, um, you know, no, you'reright.
It was still high scoringthough.
So did it, you know, did it slowthe defenses down?

Stoy Hall (15:13):
I don't know.
Uh, it, it, it slowed down thepast rush.
Right.
There should have been moresacks.
Actual sack.
Right.
There's no way around it.
But, uh,

Cole Ingle (15:21):
yeah, that was

Stoy Hall (15:21):
my, you're right.
What, how, first of all, whenwas the last time that that
field was even played on?

Cole Ingle (15:27):
No, so they grew, so they just grew, that's 11.
That gr grass has been growing.
11 months was especiallydesigned by somebody at Oklahoma
State.
Oh.
And so I was following the wholeturf.
Oh, you did,

Stoy Hall (15:38):
you were, you went

Cole Ingle (15:39):
down into every day.
Yeah, I went down the wormholeas far as like Oh wow.
And so like, and then the wholegame, there was a lot of
tweeting going on about it andstuff like that.
Cuz at the beginning of the gamethere was a lot of pride and
then it was so-and-so's grassand had, and then as the game
went on, there was a lot of hateand it was awful.
Rightfully so.
It was terrible.
Um, because it wasn't, it was acombination of the grass, the

(16:03):
turf, and the paint all in somebad combination.
Yeah.
So to blame it all on one execthing, probably not.
But field conditions in generaldefinitely impacted the game.
Again, I don't, obviously bothoffenses benefited cuz they
scored 73 points come on.
But, uh, the one thing that wedid talk about was the referees.

(16:25):
Yeah.
And I did see, I think even DanPatrick said that the Super Bowl
would re be remembered becausethe referees, and I just didn't
agree with that take.
Um, I know the, the big play atthe end that we talked about, it
led to disappointment in notbeing able to see a more
entertaining finish.

(16:48):
But I thought the refereesstayed outta the game for the
most part and they had a lot oftough review calls.
Um, I thought the fumble thatdidn't count for the chiefs went
the wrong way.
And so like, I didn't feel asbad as far as, you know, these
things equal themselves outduring most games or whatever it
may be.
Because I thought the chiefs gotseven points taken off the

(17:08):
board.
And you can argue that theEagles got the opportunity, the
score points taken off theboard.
But in my opinion, the chiefsgot seven points taken off the
board.
Yeah.
Quite literally.
That's, I don't, that's a catchand a fumble and a touchdown for
the

Stoy Hall (17:22):
chiefs.
So the, what it came down to wastime, right?
He have,

Cole Ingle (17:27):
but he caught it time.
He wasn't babbling.

Stoy Hall (17:29):
He, he caught it and he turned up field and he turned
completely

Cole Ingle (17:33):
and then got, knew the hit smoked and fumbled the
shit outta

Stoy Hall (17:35):
that ball.
Right.
That's a fumble.
Like it's, that is a fumble in atime.
Now Michelle's like, how is thatnot a fumble?
I said, by rule they're gonnagonna say it's incomplete
because of time.
Or he didn't take the football

Cole Ingle (17:44):
move, football move or whatever.
I mean, I don't know if

Stoy Hall (17:46):
that's in the rules.
Hell does that mean he caughtit?
I'm like, Hey, I get it.
Mm-hmm.
No, you're, I, I agree, but Ihardly agree with, with the
reps.
I don't think they were aproblem at all.
Yeah.
Thought they, I thought theyplayed a called a very well
game.
Now, the only thing I didn'tlike was the fact that the
chiefs had a waste of, ofreview.
Of review.
I still think that needs dealtwith, but you know, it, it, it

(18:10):
figured itself out clearly.
They didn't need

Cole Ingle (18:12):
the timeout at all.
I mean, you had the, the GoddardReview went to Eagle's Way and
that was a 50 50 play.
Yeah.
Um, so 50 50.
And so the people coming at therefs as they're wrong, as being
chiefs, homers didn't watchquarters of football.
They're wrong.
So, um, they're, they're, thatwas my take.

(18:34):
And that's why I didn't feellike the Eagles got robbed, just
cuz I thought.
chances where the chiefs couldhave benefited from the
refereeing Yeah.
And didn't, yeah.
Um, yeah.
A couple of other times in thegame.
But overall, I thought, uh, thereview process while, while it
was long, that they reviewedthe, the right plays, um, and

(18:54):
did everything they could to, toget the calls right at those
moments.
Yeah.
So, yeah, he, uh, that was asmad as I've been at the refs all
year.
I wasn't mad at the refs at theend of that game, uh, without a
dog in the fight.

Stoy Hall (19:07):
Really.
Absolutely.
And, and the other concern, youknow, was injury for Mahomes.
Mm-hmm.
And it happened actually.
Yeah.
But clearly not hard enough.

Cole Ingle (19:16):
Um, but the needles at halftime overcame it.
Sure.
Did

Stoy Hall (19:19):
I, first of all, I don't know.
And it,

Cole Ingle (19:20):
we ought to be a needle in that locker room.
We said it last

Stoy Hall (19:24):
week.
Say it again.
I said it when he texted you.
The reason he got hurt isbecause he felt mentally a
hundred percent ankle said, ah,yeah.

Cole Ingle (19:33):
and And he didn't even get twisted up.
It's a good thing.
No,

Stoy Hall (19:36):
it's a good thing cuz it would've been wrecked.
But like he was scrambling toomuch cuz he feels good.
Mm-hmm.
ankle was ready, but

Cole Ingle (19:42):
he looked good.
He did right up until it gottouched.
Well, I mean, all the thingsthat, that cause ankles issues
when you slow down, when you gettackled.
Yep.
And when you had to cut.
Yeah.
Besides that he's good.

Stoy Hall (19:54):
His like, that scrambled, that scramble he had,
which I was like, um, I wastexting the, our group and I was
just like, the speed at which hegot with that bum ankle Right.
Was awesome.
He was able to go straight.
Yeah.
Which as a defense, the onlything you needed him to do was
do this.
Yeah.
You did not

Cole Ingle (20:13):
allow that make as soon as one time you could make
him have to go east or west.
It was over.
You got him.
He was either just gonna falldown.
Or hurt himself.
Yes.
And the one time you didn't, hewas looking to get down like the
whole time and then he's like,shit, they're still not here to
get to tackle.
It's gonna run.
All right.
I'll keep going.
Keep going.
Damnit, Um, but yeah, I meanoverall, uh, first half belonged

(20:37):
to the Eagles and they lookedreally good.
Mm-hmm.
the Chiefs just didn't have theball.
Uh, they obviously that tiredthe defense out.
It actually almost benefited theEagles a little bit, in my
opinion, that the Chiefs had thedefensive fumble recovery for
touchdown.
Yeah.
Uh, kind of a weird play withHertz there, where he just, I
mean, ultimately just kind ofdropped the ball.
Just dropped the ball.

(20:58):
Um, which sucks because otherthan that, that guy was
unbelievable.
Mm-hmm.
uh, gained a lot of my respectin that game, but, uh, that made
the time of possession and thetime that the chief's defense
had to spend on the field.
Yeah.
So much longer.
Yeah.
And so much longer for thechief's offense to have to sit
on the field.
that even though I felt likeAndy Reid had a really good

(21:19):
idea, which we saw in the secondhalf of what he wanted to do and
how he wanted to attack, theydidn't, they just didn't have
enough plays in order to makethat come to life.
And in the second half, they gotthat opportunity and, and you
saw that they clearly had a gameplan that was ready to go, just
like you saw on the first driveof the game.
So, uh, didn't surprise me.
I didn't feel like the Chiefswere ever outta that game.

Stoy Hall (21:38):
No.
The Eagles got to me, they wereoutcoached, top to bottom.
Mm-hmm.
to start, even though they gotup big, even though the chief,
the Chiefs just weren't makingplays.
And we hit, well hit upon thatmore.
The chiefs weren't just ma theyjust weren't making plays.
They were there.
Mm-hmm.
the plays were there.
Mm-hmm.
they just didn't make'em.
I felt the Eagles game plan,just one never changed.
But I don't think it was asdynamic.

(22:00):
It wasn't No, you weren't seeingthat.
They were just,

Cole Ingle (22:03):
they would were depending on great plays.
Correct.
In order to, I mean, to putthemselves in the position where
Hertz was literally

Stoy Hall (22:10):
chucking it up.

Cole Ingle (22:11):
Yeah.
I mean, literally perfectlychucking it up.
That's fine.
They're chucking it upnonetheless.
He just threw it up.
Yeah.
And he was effective running theball.
And that's where I think Yes.
And I mean, you and I talkedabout who not giving him, he had
eight design runs in the firsthalf and one in the second half,
which is,

Stoy Hall (22:29):
that's a mind

Cole Ingle (22:30):
boggling to me.
They cannot stop him running thefootball

Stoy Hall (22:33):
and they just didn't keep doing it.
Yeah.
I, I would've done it just toslow down the cheese offense.
Like Right.
Give me some time of possession.

Cole Ingle (22:41):
But they, I mean, I think we, we talked about that
though.
They were, they were reallyrunning down the play clock in
the third quarter.
They really were.
Uh, you texted and were like,you gotta get the ball snapped.
And it's like, it's one thing torun it down to five seconds, run
clock, but they were rushing andtaking penalties or at least one
penalty and one time out.

(23:01):
Um, because the play clock.
Yeah.
And so at that point, the onlyexcuse for that is you're just,
you are, there's no urgency andyou're trying to run it down.
to not give him Mahomes, theball back.
And ultimately you were screwingthe timing of your offense up by
doing that because there was noflow.

(23:23):
Yeah.
To your offense in the secondhalf, you guys stay aggressive
after

Stoy Hall (23:26):
you built a big league.
You guys stay aggressive.
There's no, it, it's, it's beenproven in specifically in Super
Bowls that you go soft, badthings happen.
Right.
And yeah.
I

Cole Ingle (23:36):
didn't even feel like, I never felt like they
went, they got off Iconservative.
I felt like they got

Stoy Hall (23:41):
slow.
They got slow, but those playsweren't good either.
But that could have been thewhole Right.
But we

Cole Ingle (23:45):
agree, we agreed that the first half of plays
weren't great.
They just turned out in theirfavor.
Right?
Yeah.
It was

Stoy Hall (23:50):
just like slow, like there was no mm-hmm.
even if he wanted Audible, whichI don't, he doesn't do much of
anyway, but he couldn't, yeah.
They were snapping at zeromultiple times.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (24:01):
Um, and then you had special teams.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which ultimately looked like itwas going to.
Hurt the chiefs.
Yep.
To your point with butcher's,miss field goal, donk, uh, when
I think we both thought theyshould have gone for that.
I think most of America, boththan three, especially knowing
that Philly was not gonna kickfield goals, I would

Stoy Hall (24:19):
think that for the most part, I would think Reid
would, if he would go back andsay, I made a mistake, I, I
probably would bet it would bethere.
So not because he

Cole Ingle (24:26):
missed the argument I heard against that was that
he, he knew depends on howbrilliant you think, and Reid
is, that Bucker was going toneed to kick important field
goals, field goal, field goalslater in the game.
And he wanted to get him outthere early to get the first one
outta the way.
Thank you.
I, I'm just saying that seriesout

Stoy Hall (24:48):
there.
I mean, great.
Uh, I, I head coaches if you'reout there, I don't care.
Also, he'd

Cole Ingle (24:54):
already kicked a, he'd already kicked a p a T.
Yeah.
So it's not so, and they're,they're not 20 yard pt just as
far it'd beat, they're 30, 33yards.

Stoy Hall (25:02):
So it, it was 10 yards.
Right.
Nothing to do

Cole Ingle (25:04):
with it.
No, I, I absolutely, Icompletely agree.
Absolutely.
Um, so yeah.
And then you had, um, you know,punt return.

Stoy Hall (25:13):
Hey, I, I honestly, uh, I saw this right away when
he went to cut and he slipped.
Everyone kind of like paused andI was like, that's gonna be a
big return.
Yeah.
Because he slipped.
Yeah.
You've seen this, you've seen itbefore, but like that I was just
like,

Cole Ingle (25:27):
no.
It's just like the, when theball gets like babbled back in
the end zone and everybody justkind of over pursues, but also
slows down at the same time.
Yeah.
And it's like the guy that's gotthe ball is the fastest guy on
the field 99% of the time.
If you lose your momentum incoverage and he gets to go full
speed because he can go fullspeed faster than anyone else

(25:49):
out there, you're screwed.
And they were screwed.
And they were screwed.
I mean, that's ultimately whatit came down to.
Like, so in no

Stoy Hall (25:56):
block in the backs, I

Cole Ingle (25:58):
did not, not that I saw,

Stoy Hall (25:59):
not that I saw, I didn't review.
No.
Actually what I saw was, um,very, very poor coverage by the
Eagles.
Yeah.
They had, and I'm not shittingyou, I think it was like six or
seven guys on like basicallypast the right hash, right.
Special

Cole Ingle (26:11):
team guide here.
Not a good idea.
He slip, I think I I think it'sa five yard return.

Stoy Hall (26:16):
Yeah.
Unless he, like he would've tophysically have broke that
tackle at that point.
Mm-hmm.
right.
I and the slip, who knows what

Cole Ingle (26:22):
happens.
Yeah.
Came to

Stoy Hall (26:24):
break the tackle away.
But what it did is it the overpursuit when he slipped, they
did what you said they just likeslowed down.
Mm-hmm.
but didn't shut it down.
Right.
And over pursued everything.
And it was bad.
It was just bad.
I

Cole Ingle (26:36):
mean, they did a great job recovering as
processing.
They forgot that their bodieswere still moving Correct them,
which not only that, but theirbodies were moving them out of
position.
Yeah.
Um, like unknowingly.
Yeah.
Uh, or unconsciously.
Yeah.
Right.
Um, Which, yeah, that's, uh,it's so big return,

Stoy Hall (26:53):
big return for the

Cole Ingle (26:54):
guy.
I mean, you go touchdown theonly three and out in the game
and might've been the only threeand out in the Eagles
postseason.
I don't, I don't know.
Yeah, they've been, but as goodas their offense was.
Um, and then you go upon returnand that's when you knew, um, oh

(27:16):
yeah.
At that point.
At that point, if no more six,you at least knew that it was
gonna come down to I feel goalbasically.
Although you kind of, I kind ofgot the feeling of like the
49ers Super Bowl from two yearsago.
Chief Sis ended up one by 10,you know, like Yeah.
But then Sneed comes out anddecides not to cover the wide

(27:39):
receiver Devonte Smith runningdown the sideline.
Who then decides to turn intowhat looks like a drunken 88 and
wanders out of bounds.
I So confus after catching afade play was so confusing.
Yeah.
So the defense obviously lookedworse than the offense because
the defense, um, I was so like atouchdown because of it, but

(28:02):
Devonte Smith, like 99 timesthat a receiver catches that
ball out of a hundred, that's atouchdown.
I don't, he like stumbledsideways outta bounds after he
got it.
I don't know

Stoy Hall (28:13):
if he thought he was gonna get hit, which no one was
near him.
I don't know if he thought hewas closer to the end zone, so
he was just gonna catch it andthen he just like do what he
did.
But

Cole Ingle (28:20):
he would've been just like passed loaf into the
end zone.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
No, but it was

Stoy Hall (28:23):
cr that play was, I, I was my brain hurt on that one
first and

Cole Ingle (28:28):
that was like end of game.
You would've thought thatDevonte Smith had money on the
chiefs or something.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like that's how awkward

Stoy Hall (28:34):
it was.
It's awkward but people aren'ttalking about those.
They're only stuck in the onething.
The other thing that I thoughtwas really weird, and I'm.
I, and I don't quite understandwhat was going on was when the
Eagles got that, uh, Inc.
The offsides down there and gotthe first down.
Mm-hmm.
um, uh, before half I was reallyconfused because one, the guy

(28:59):
flinched and came back.
Right.
First of all, the, the leftguard might have been the right
guard twitched anyway.
Mm-hmm.
false start two, that guy lunch,but got back, no one else moved
except for then Kelsey stood upwithout the ball.
Right.
Which is by the way, a falsestart.

Cole Ingle (29:16):
And it is a false start.
Even if, if that was the onlything that happened is sh still
should have been a false startbecause the guy that moved was
not over the top of him.
Correct.
The thing that I think theycalled is that Chris Jones was
like helmet deep in the neutralzone.
I mean, he was definitely in theneutral zone.
So I, my question is though, isthat like, I don't know which

(29:40):
one, like, but that was beforehe Right.
But if, if you line up in theneutral zone, right.
So you're, you're already offsides and I jump off sides.
Who's off sides?
I have no idea.
See this is like that, that's atough one in my head.
So like I didn't have thisdiscussion.
Yeah.
Like, because the only personthat to have the discussion with
was my wife and kids.
Yeah.
But I was just like, Hmm, that'slike a chicken and an egg thing.

(30:02):
I don't know.
I don't, I don't think I've everseen it.
You are going to throw a flag,you know, because that flag does
not get thrown until after thesnap.

Stoy Hall (30:13):
So that would be Cause they are allowed, that
would be my gut would be thefact that the neutral zone is
after snap false.
Right.
But like, I can't do off falsestart is prior.
That would be my,

Cole Ingle (30:22):
is that not, are those not offsetting penalty?
because now I You've thrownboth.
Well, now I've thrown the flag.
So therefore the

Stoy Hall (30:29):
Yeah, but the second one didn't happen because, but
it

Cole Ingle (30:31):
starts before the snap.
But like, what if, what if hewas just standing back by the
quarterback?
I have no idea.
Like if he, he wasn't able toget, you know, like, let's say
it was a long pass plane, he'sjust trying to get back on sides
and then your guy Flins.
I've never seen that.

Stoy Hall (30:46):
I've never seen that situation.
I've never seen a center standup without the ball.
Right.
Either, by the way.
Yeah.
Left the ball, the ball there.
Yeah.
Like I, I've seen him snap it,do a, it was just awkward.
So again,

Cole Ingle (30:58):
still don't know what the, was one that went
against the chiefs.
Oh yeah.
You know, yeah.
A small play.
Um, there was also anotherflinch on of third and short,
uh, that, that went against theEagles.
Uh, it was a little moreobvious, just like, wow.
Um, but the chiefs ended upbasically having to call that
one.
Six dudes on the chief stood upand pointed and they finally
threw a flag.
So, um,

Stoy Hall (31:19):
Those were some weird ones that I, I haven't seen
around the, the Twitterverse atall either.
But, uh, those were ones I wasjust like, huh, this is, this is
awkward.
I don't think I've seen thesethings happen like this.
Right.
Um, fun stuff, but overallpretty solid Super Bowl.
Um, I,

Cole Ingle (31:36):
I can't complain.
I had everything but the, uh,the Epic finish.
Yeah.
Which it, the problem was, is itset the table for it and so you
set the table and then you triedthe magic trick where you pull
the tablecloth out.
Yeah.
And then everything just felloff everyth, So really rapidly,
um, yeah, it, uh, a lot ofbuildup

Stoy Hall (31:54):
and, and I won five 50, so Yeah.
Hey, I, good work.
I can't really be upset.

Cole Ingle (31:58):
Um, most people I know, um, were actually, that
had good money on it.
Were actually on the Chiefs.
Andrew Yeah.
Was on the Chiefs.
Uh, Jesse was on the Chiefs.
Uh, and a lot of people had theKelsey touchdown.
Yeah.
That was easy.
A lot of pizza people had a, ahurt touchdown and some had both
the.

(32:18):
Hertz Touch on Ann Hertz's firsttouchdown.
Damn.
Um, so I, uh, I was getting alot of text messages of good
bets of successful Yeah.
Parlays of successful, um, firsthalf bets, and then successful
endgame, um, bets with Mahomes.
Finding

Stoy Hall (32:35):
a way to, I just, I I, I need, I'm gonna call you
out on this one.
Yep.
First half under.
Yep.
And you took the under.
I

Cole Ingle (32:42):
did.
Those were, Hey.
I wasn't expecting'em.
Wed be playing on

Stoy Hall (32:45):
ice out there.
You, to be fair, I, I wasn'teither.
I put a bet on the actual secondhalf being high in scoring.
Yeah.
Um, for the Eagle, it was justbad.
Mm-hmm.
but hey, it was good.
Solid football season.
Yeah.
I

Cole Ingle (32:58):
mean, overall very solid.
Uh, really solid.
I mean, for our teams, from adisappointment standpoint, like
honestly, the Cowboys didexactly what I expected.
Uh, your falcons actually outoutperformed, outperformed, but
in some ways under disappointedbecause of how they coached.

Stoy Hall (33:16):
They were always.
Disappoint.
So like that's always there, butthey overperformed what I

Cole Ingle (33:21):
thought.
Yeah.
Um, looking forward to, yeah.
What we can do in the off seasonfrom a coaching staff
perspective and make some smallchanges.
And you know, at some point Dakeither has to take that next
step, um, and I mean, honestlyjust, you gotta get to a Jaylen
Hertz level.
And the fact that I'm sayingthat is more so from just

(33:43):
watching how he performed on thebiggest stage.
He made mistakes, but he alwaysovercame those mistakes and
never looked flustered.
And even on the one play, um,sideline, they were reviewing
the, I think it was the Smithcatch.

(34:05):
Um, and Siri is trying to mockthe chief sideline.
Yeah.
And Hertz doesn't get caught upat the moment.
He pulls his hand down.
get back to focus.
And so like, that's just thetype of stuff, you know, it
hurts me to say as a Cowboysfan, but that's the type of it
of hurts you to

Stoy Hall (34:23):
say.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
But anyways, yes.
Yeah, I see what you're goingon.

Cole Ingle (34:28):
Yeah.
So, uh, yeah, I was hurt.
I, Hertz was the most impressiveplayer to me in the game from an
expectation standpoint.
Yeah.
What, what he did to elevate myperception of him in that game
was more so than any otherplayer.
I agree.
Um, Mahomes and Kelsey deliveredand my boy Pacheco, um, they

(34:48):
were able to run the football.
They really were.
And that's probably the last bigpoint.
You know, as I look at theentire game, the Chiefs
literally did everything theyneeded to do.
They protected Mahomes, they ranthe football, they won special.
they did the things that thatteams do.
They won the turnover battle.

(35:10):
Yep.
They did the things that teamsdo to win games.
Like if you wanna look atthings, teams do that.
How, how did this team win?
What are the records of teamsthat lead in this category that
win games?
Yeah, they did.
'em, chiefs probably checked 80%of those boxes.
Oh, absolutely.
Um, and to the Eagles credit,they were right there.

Stoy Hall (35:30):
They were.
That's, um, I it truly, um,coaching.
So that's, that was thedifference.
Uh, it truly was.
Um, and now for the Eagles floyOC in DC Yeah.
It's gonna be different.
You might go back, you might.
Um, I don't, I don't believe so.
Um, because nfcs gonna get a lotstronger.

(35:51):
There's a lot of money, um, infree agency out there.
Um, nfcs gonna be a differentpicture.
Teams are gonna be different andstronger.
And you just lost your OC in DC.

Cole Ingle (36:02):
I think a lot of will depend on, it's been tough,
what they lose from a veteranleadership standpoint.
Um, whether any of of those guysretire or, or anything like
that.
Specifically on the old linewith Kelsey and Lane.
Um, those are two of your bestguys.

Stoy Hall (36:16):
I mean, you would think they'd have to just say, I
think they'll come back.
Let's do this again.
I think they'll be back.
They're, they're pretty good inlane, by the way.
Hey, see what we're seeing firstdid not jump off sides every, he
didn't fall, start every play.
No.
Only once or twice.
Yeah.
It was very, that was like,yeah.
Night and day difference.
But anyways, you're right.
Um, we'll see this off.
Season's gonna be fun.
Exciting.
We're gonna track all of that.
Yeah.

(36:36):
Um, you know, I was again proudof the Falcons.
They got a lot of money to spendthis off season.
Really thrilled about that highdraft pick.
So, you know, let's do that.
Cowboys will cowboy.
We all know that.
Um, yeha.
Yep.
But that's over.
Football's over.
Yeah.
For a while.
But what's not, what's not over?

(36:57):
What's just

Cole Ingle (36:57):
heating up?
Do you want to catch any Twittervideos before we jump in?
We, uh, yeah, we talked aboutmost of this stuff.
I just didn't know if youwanted, I don't

Stoy Hall (37:09):
remember.
I know we talked about a lot of,I just don't remember like what
all we have.
All right.
Did we Thursday boy.
Okay.
Kurt's boy.
Remember that last week?

Cole Ingle (37:30):
This is just the Kelsey thing.
Don't care.
Don't care about the, a lot ofKelsey and Kelsey's mom.
If you were playing any drinkinggames, you probably got really
drunk on that.
We can,

Stoy Hall (37:39):
we can leave that one to be, uh, yeah.
How we start, keep going.
We don't,

Cole Ingle (37:44):
yeah, we won't watch

Stoy Hall (37:45):
golf.
Oh.
Um, um, did you, did you gettime?
Do you wanna

Cole Ingle (37:56):
talk about that one at all?
Yeah, we don't, I mean, we don'teven have to play the audio.
We can just read that if youwant.
Yeah.
Um, go ahead.
So this was, uh, Emmett Smithwas being interviewed, um,
during the Super Bowl week.
Uh, and he had this, which I'dnever really considered, but I
mean, it makes sense to sayabout the Cowboys offense.

(38:17):
Under Kellen Moore, we were justcalling damn plays just to be
calling plays.
We weren't building on anything.
And what Emmett is referring tois if anyone in the National
Football League has ever been a,I'll say it's system running
back, but was the best at it,it's Emmett Smith and it's

(38:41):
because that guy needed to grindfor four quarters.
See an outside zone look, see aninside zone look, see a left
side look, see a right sidelook.
And then.
feedback from the lineman,feedback from the coaches,
feedback from Emmett on what'sgonna work in the third quarter
and what's gonna work when we'regrinding down a team in the
fourth quarter where all of asudden that linebacker is a half

(39:04):
a step late and I break throughan arm tackle because I know
this.
And that's what he's referringto, is the process of building a
running game and building a playcalling sheet script for more
than just the first drive, whichyou hear about all the time.
Everybody's got a script for thefirst 10 plays and then you

(39:25):
know, everybody, everybody's gota plan until they get hit in the
mouth.
Right, right.
And, and Emmett with theCowboys, their plan on offense
was always to go out and hit thedefense in the mouth.
And so in whatever way that was,whether they knew that they
could attack inside, outside,you know, through the air on
play action, whatever it wasthey were, they were always

(39:47):
building towards that.
And so whoever the offensivecoordinators were, uh, and, and
those times, like, that's whatmade the Cowboys Dynasty of the
nineties so great.
And he is pointing out that, youknow, they've got Zeke, they've
got Pollard, they've got Lamb,they've got Dak who can move,
but they're not creating a planaround those guys to be like,

(40:11):
how can we make Pollard moreeffective?
We know we need to get him Xamount of touches.
So at some point throughout thegame, he's gonna get 15 touches.
We, that Emmett feels likethat's random lamb, might get
six catches in a row, might notsee the ball for two more
quarters.
Zeke might play two drives, notget seen for six drives, and all

(40:31):
of a sudden in the middle of thefourth quarter, we're taking
Pollard out and we're puttingZeke in to get him six more
carries or three more carries,whatever it may be.
I'm hoping that that changes.
Um, this is not something that Ihad actually considered.
I didn't, I.
I didn't love or hate KellenMoore as an offensive
coordinator.
Mm-hmm.
thought he was fine.

(40:52):
But looking at it from thislight gives me hope that our
offense can even take it toanother level because Dallas was
always a, when things are goingwell, we can score an unlimited
amount of points offense, andwhen things are not, we might
score three.
And that's what shows is thatthey look, they look like a

(41:13):
great high scoring offense.
But when you go back and look atthe numbers, they were either
fantastic or crappy and therewasn't a lot of in between.
Um, they couldn't score, youknow, 24 points when they needed
to.
Um, they couldn't score, youknow, 17 points, a couple games
when they needed to.
Yeah.
Right.
You know, their defense was goodenough that if you can

(41:33):
consistently score 20, 24 to 30instead of at some points
putting up 45 to 50 and otherpoints, putting up three to six,
and that's where, you know, Ihope that you know what Emmett's
talking about can beimplemented, cuz Dallas
definitely has the pieces onoffense.
So,

Stoy Hall (41:51):
hey, you're not wrong.
Um, my only question is, is it,is it McCarthy or is it, was it
Kevin

Cole Ingle (41:56):
or we're gonna find out McCarthy's coming with those
play calls.
So

Stoy Hall (42:00):
show, find out.
This one's hilarious and we aredefinitely getting some audio
for this one.
by the way, I have not beengreat, have even been showing
people that No, that's fine.
Doesn't matter.
They didn't need it.
They need this one though, and Ineed to make sure the sound's
on.
This is the

Cole Ingle (42:16):
old wait for it.

Stoy Hall (42:17):
Your player growing up,

Cole Ingle (42:18):
cam Newman.
Best trash talker in the nfl.
Probably Leonard ett.
Oh, he talks a lot of trashtalks too much.
Oh yeah.
I have trash

Stoy Hall (42:25):
from

Cole Ingle (42:26):
Twitter as well.
Okay.
Favorite sports movie?
Rudy

Stoy Hall (42:29):
Most embarrassing song on your playlist, Shak.
That's not embarrassing.
Secure.
Hips, hips.
Hips.
Don't lie.
Oh, okay.
I, I feel like Shakira is notembarrassing.
I mean, the way that

Cole Ingle (42:40):
I do

Stoy Hall (42:41):
it, it's probably embarrassing.
like, all right, last question.
Weirdest

Cole Ingle (42:45):
thing about you that few people know.
I have a foot fetish.
A foot fetish?
Yeah.
You like toes?
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (42:52):
Okay.
That was my reaction.
Oh, that fun fetish.

Cole Ingle (42:56):
It's the face for me.
It's the face just, but, uh,yeah.
Foot fetish.
Mike Parsons has a foot fetish.
Wow.
Uh, for those out therewondering for you.

Stoy Hall (43:04):
Good for you.
Uh, did you have time to, toread this?
I did not, man.
I'm, I don't understand.

Cole Ingle (43:12):
They're flexing.
Thursday night football is thatthey're gonna be there,

Stoy Hall (43:15):
there is an option that it could be flexed.
How the hell do you flexThursday,

Cole Ingle (43:20):
Thursdays?
Uh, it changes schedule for theweek.
You're gonna get, I feel likethey're gonna get a lot of, no,
I don't think it's gonna

Stoy Hall (43:25):
come through.
However, in their, um,implemented Monday nights will
be flexed.
Yeah.
Again though, still questioning.

Cole Ingle (43:33):
Yeah, no, it, it changes travel plans, it changes
practice plans.

Stoy Hall (43:35):
Is the NFL gonna start paying for travel?
Yeah.
I

Cole Ingle (43:38):
mean, when they flexes the nfl PA's gonna have a
lot of say in this and theyalready do.
I mean, they're getting more andmore, um, but they're not going
to let these things.
Thursday
nights

Stoy Hall (43:46):
definitely slide by I fine Monday because some of the
Monday hasn't been good.
But you can't do that onThursday.
You just can't.
I don't know.
Bad idea.
Bad idea.
Um, we're not gonna do volumecuz this one's longer, but Sean
Payton, head coach DenverBreakfast.
Denver Brocks.
Yep.

(44:07):
Um, is talking about the chip inthe

Cole Ingle (44:11):
football, the elusive chip.
Yeah.
What, uh, I didn't, sorry, Ididn't get a chance to listen to

Stoy Hall (44:17):
this.
I didn't go deep dive into iteither.
but, so I, I need you guys to,to

Cole Ingle (44:24):
recognize this.
So like, this is going to be, Imean, I think we can maybe do a
dive this off season, but moreso as we go into next season,
are we going to see more chipimplementation?
I think so.
All right.
To be continued.
The all uh, ah, yeah.
Closest.
I even posted this on my closest

Stoy Hall (44:44):
Toman in the Super Bowl.
Yep.
Always

Cole Ingle (44:46):
good was kudos or kudos to d Shout out to Dak.
He was the Walter Payton.

Stoy Hall (44:52):
Yeah.
That's why he was there, man ofthe year.
Well, I mean he probablywould've been there, but that's
why he was there.
And that is

Cole Ingle (44:57):
an amazing It is award.
And he got booed, which, and hegot booed by Eagles fans.
Go, Eagles up.
That's golf.
My bad.
That's on me.
And so a lot of people weresaying, yeah.
And I say people, Dallas fanswere saying that's karma.
Yep.
That's why the Eagles

Stoy Hall (45:10):
lost.
Um, so we hit upon this a littlebit, uh, but that's an
incomplete pass.
Yep.

Cole Ingle (45:14):
That's the uh, Devonte Smith pass that didn't
get overturned in the 49 ERsgame.
and it was actually even moreegregious than the 49ers came.
It really

Stoy Hall (45:23):
was this, uh, as soon as I saw this, this actually,
they talked about this Yep.
On the air.
As soon as they said that, Isaid, well, this one's over.
Um, Pete Mahomes is going to winnow.
So, um, Patrick Mahomes is now14 and 10 when his team falls
behind by 10 or more points.
Northern Quarterback has awinning percentage of more than
37%.
Wow.

(45:43):
Since

Cole Ingle (45:44):
1950.

Stoy Hall (45:46):
That is ridiculous.
Um, again, we've hit upon it alot.
That's It's a hole.

Cole Ingle (45:51):
That's the first hold.
Yep.
It's just, um, just the hold andmind you, you've got a back
judge that's staring right down.
You just a barrel, just rightsoon as he sees the right hand.
And I will say that, that thisangle was not a camera angle
that we saw.
I think this was a, or a videoangle that we saw.
I think this was a camera shot,but to me, like.

(46:15):
Once I saw that, I'm like, okay,that's what you can't see from
all the camera angles.
Love this

Stoy Hall (46:19):
one by RG

Cole Ingle (46:20):
three.
Yeah, Melvin Gordon.
Um, what started just with hisboy

Stoy Hall (46:24):
despair,

Cole Ingle (46:25):
our of, uh, Russell at the beginning of the year
and, uh, played zero snaps asfar as I know.
Um, didn't see him in the gameand, uh, got a ring, got himself
a ring, and, uh, got the holdfor trophy and a cigar at the
end of the year.
So good for him.

Stoy Hall (46:39):
Work good for him.
All right, let's, yeah.
Yeah.
It's called Corn Dog.
So it's called what?
Corn Dog.
It's not, don't get it.
I'll get it.
I'll get, oh, the volume's beenon the whole time, so my, my
apologies and all.
I'm gonna give you a name forit.
I'm not darn.
Yeah, it's called Corn Dog.
It's called what?
Corn Dog.
It's not called Corn Dog.

(47:00):
Oh yeah.
Is it called Corn

Cole Ingle (47:01):
Dog?
There's nothing better than agood corn dog.
Was a mustard and, uh, ketchup.

Stoy Hall (47:07):
But he doesn't step into the huddle and say, corn
dog.
Oh

Cole Ingle (47:10):
no.

Stoy Hall (47:10):
He says

Cole Ingle (47:11):
Corn dog.
No, he says he does.
I'm give you a name.
He says, corn dog.
I'm gonna give you a name forit.
He says, corn

Stoy Hall (47:16):
dog.
Um, this, do you have more?
I, I thought I put the other, Idon't matter.
Two by two minutes we're gonnaget there.
So, um, oh man, guys, this is,it's just not good football.
Um, I know what he's doing, butit is, it is not good football.
And this is what I mean by this.
And this actually, I paused it.
Very good spot.

(47:37):
Yeah.
So, um, turning

Cole Ingle (47:40):
goes in motion.
This is third down and threeeagles are in man-to-man
defense.
Yep.
Clearly, obviously.
Um, and this is something thatchiefs have scouted, right?
So they know the coverage.

Stoy Hall (47:48):
So usually you see, you know, jet motion come all
the way across, whether it's ahandoff, a runner, whatever.
So he's going to scream ateveryone to get over.
In this situation I'm thinkinghe's replay, he's moving and
they're just bumping right?
Or something.
Cuz I don't, I'm not a hundredpercent sure why he,

Cole Ingle (48:09):
I think he is, he is going to be the man that if Tony
goes all the way, the wayacross, he's running with him
cuz it's corner, it's justcorners switching.
So that's what

Stoy Hall (48:18):
I thought too.
Um,

Cole Ingle (48:20):
but the problem with that is, is where number two
ends up on this play,

Stoy Hall (48:23):
he's covering That'ss What one, that's what's, that's
what screwed up to me.
That's why I was like, I thinkmy thought was when, when, when
we run this on defense, there'dbe a couple things we would do.
Um, either you'd have him runall the way over, you'd actually
have a safety move over.
He would bump back to safetydepending on your skillset.
Um, he would stay there or hewould bump over to man here,

(48:45):
there's just things you coulddo.
Right.
My issue with all of this,where's number two's eyes?
Where is number?
I don't know your number.
Where are your

Cole Ingle (48:54):
eyes?
Not on the offensive players.

Stoy Hall (48:57):
They're

Cole Ingle (48:57):
nowhere near looking at this.
But if you watch, uh, I don't,and I hope we have the other
play, but if you watch the othertouchdown, this was a scout.
This is a hundred percent.
This is how they do eagles playmotion.
They won't do it again.
Um, because, so essentially whathappens is, is he's supposed to
have him, by the way.
Yeah, Tony went in motion andthen he reversed his motion.

(49:20):
But what the chief saw was thatthe eagles overplayed motion
every time, and that if you justreversed field.
there's literally no one overthere because they overplay the
motion so hard to protectagainst the jet, sweep the
opposite direction, which by the

Stoy Hall (49:37):
way, these guys aren't stopping the

Cole Ingle (49:40):
jet sweep.
Also, they're already overloadedon that side because that's the
strongest or the run side of thedefense.
It

Stoy Hall (49:46):
was so bad.
I mean, it was bad from adefense perspective, but

Cole Ingle (49:49):
great scheme.
They did it twice.
They did it twice.
And so the, I mean, that's kindof the proof in the pudding of
not just, this is how the Eaglesplay it and we're going to make
them pay for playing that way.
Just here it is right here.
Duh.

Stoy Hall (50:06):
All right.
Let me, lemme

Cole Ingle (50:07):
get in here.
So this does a really good jobof showing, so let's just,

Stoy Hall (50:10):
just simultaneous here, lemme go back.
Uh, just watch, throw'em myball.
Obviously we saw the one at thetop Motion

Cole Ingle (50:15):
already.
Motion run back the other wayfrom where the motion came from.
Nobody on that side of the fieldon zero play, nothing.
Sky Moore gets one.
Touchdown Kius, Tony gets theother one on the exact same play
the other side.
Um.
foot long corn dogs are good.
How about a double corn dog?
Double.
A double foot foot Chiefs gavehim was a, so let's

Stoy Hall (50:35):
watch Double corn dog.
This is the other side.
Let's watch bottom screen forall those 24

Cole Ingle (50:40):
goes.
29 is now out of positionbecause he's going to switch and
take the motion and he isliterally just trying to beat
him to the other side of theball.
Wait, he is already gone.
He's, but why?

Stoy Hall (50:52):
He is at least three yards ahead.
No, I I'm, are you that slow?
Like I, that's it.
And then Yeah, he does.
And then there's just no onethere.
What's best though?
Watch this watch, watch him flyover and then he just points.
Yeah, and it's like, uh, uh Ohyeah, because you sprinted

Cole Ingle (51:16):
and you never saw him and you never didn't have
eyes on him.
I, yeah.
But the fact that it was twodifferent guys that did that, or
was it 29 on both sides?
I don't, no, it was 29 on bothsides because 29 was in the
slot.
It's coached obviously.
That was, and getting pushed.
He got pushed by two from oneside.

(51:36):
He got pushed from 23 on theother side.
But like, it's

Stoy Hall (51:38):
the thing that you took off and didn't look mm-hmm.
both times.
The second one was worse cuz youwere way ahead over here.
And no matter if even one ofthese guys, oops, my bad up
here.
My bad.
We're on the top.
Uh, if any one of'em just looksmm-hmm.
they at least could, I mean,it's a touchdown anyway.
Right?
But they at least could recover.
Not look like idiots.
This is just poor.

Cole Ingle (51:58):
Just poor.
But that's the second one.
That's the, that makes theworst.
The worst one.
It's worst.
So like, you already saw it onceand they just said, you know
what, let's run mirror and guessand

Stoy Hall (52:06):
guess what happened, like as a defense, when you see
a look and you see you're gonnago, I'm gonna be hesitant.
Right?
I'm not

Cole Ingle (52:13):
like, no.
He sold out more on the secondone than he did the first one.
so

Stoy Hall (52:16):
bad, so bad.
Um, I, I am gonna put this quoteup here.
I think, um, I learned a lotabout Hertz.
Um, throughout the Super Bowlwith his dad, his coaching, and
mm-hmm.
obviously his perseverance andbeing able to come back.
We, we know that, that's beendocumented.
It's the maturity to saysomething like this after a game

(52:43):
that big of a game where youliterally dropped the football.
Right?
Yeah.
Um, and, and his quote is, wecame up short.
I, I think the beautiful partabout it is everyone experiences
different pains, everyoneexperiences different agonies of
life, but you decide if youwanna learn from it.
You decide if you want that tobe a teachable moment.

(53:04):
I know, I do.
Yeah.
It's powerful.
Mm-hmm.
it really is.
And that's all it can be.
Um, don't drop snap.
No.
And

Cole Ingle (53:12):
this guy's been, I mean, he's been through, he's
been on the big stage withAlabama, Oklahoma.
Um, he's been through a lot ofpain points, same thing.
Um, and he's only elevatedhimself through everything,
whether it be college, uh, or,you know, First, second years
with Oh yeah.
With the Eagles.
Uh, so I only anticipate thatthat's going to continue.

(53:32):
Hey, he's earned my

Stoy Hall (53:33):
respect on that path.
So he's a top 10 quarterback ofmy mind.
Yep.
Okay.
I like it.
So let's, uh, we're gonna get,now we're starting into golf and
we'll end with the, the, thestory of the week, right?
Yeah.
Um, if you guys don't know ifthat is, you guys are still
having a rough time, but hereis, um, what's good for him, you
know, good for you.
This happens and you still winthe attorney.

(53:56):
Um, I, I first saw this and Iwas like, oh, that's a really
good shot.
Oh, this might go in.
It's got a chance to go in.
Oh, cool.
It's gonna stop, you know,short.
Oh, taping.
Taping.

Cole Ingle (54:07):
Even Stoy can make that one.
Yeah.
Shit.
Oh.

Stoy Hall (54:10):
Oh wait.
Oh no.
Oh God.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (54:14):
It was breezy on, oh boy.
On, uh, Thursday at the oldPhoenix Open.

Stoy Hall (54:17):
Yo.
Okay, then I'm like, here.
I was like, ah, the fringe willwe'll be good.
We'll be good now.
We'll be fine.
No, we're gonna be, oh, no.
Oh no.
Lisa, stop there.
At that point I thought it wasgoing all the way down.
Yeah.
Could you?
It's just the bad luck.
Yeah.
By the way, if, if this everhappens, we're playing on

(54:38):
putting it back by our foot.
I'll miss the putt, but like,I'll put it there.
I'm putting that thing back.
Next hole.
What the hell is this,

Cole Ingle (54:45):
right?
Yeah.
Great shot.
Um, could not have played thatbad.
No.
Maybe if you didn't spin theball and you weren't so good at
golf, you wouldn't have to worryabout that.
I mean, both of ours werebouncing out, let's be honest.
uh, so that's eight 30, hittingthe green.
Right, right, right.
Uh, so we're good there.
But that's, uh, yeah, you're,uh, you're champion.
Scotty Shuffler just right

Stoy Hall (55:04):
there over overcoming, um, the breaks.
Ed breaks.
Here it is.
Here it is.
In all the glory.
The man, the goat, the king,whatever you wanna say.
Tiger Woods is back.
Sweet.
And I quote, I'm ready to playan actual PGA tour event next

(55:27):
week at the Genesis, at the sameplace that he had his accident
tore up his leg.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, let's go.
All right.
Jacked.

Cole Ingle (55:42):
Yeah.
We'll have, I'll pick him towin.
We'll have some tiger side betsthis

Stoy Hall (55:45):
week.
Oh, we have to, we didn't haveany side bets last week.
Yeah,

Cole Ingle (55:48):
so I was a lot going on.
We had a lot of Super Bowl sidebeds.
Not even that really, but No, wedidn't.
It just, we had one,

Stoy Hall (55:55):
one that mattered.
Like everything just ended up,Matt, when I was going through,
I was like, when I first, sinceI went right, and then top to

Cole Ingle (56:01):
bottom, I'm like, well, I mean, speaking of it
before we get

Stoy Hall (56:03):
tomorrow, I'm, I'm sitting here going like, oh
shit, this could get bad.
And then it all equaled out.
So yeah, shitty shot for thesoup Super Bowl, uh, came down
to our tiebreaker, which startedthe game.
Right.
Um, our little run pass whiskey.
Yes.
That's root beer.

Cole Ingle (56:22):
I didn't know there were more than that in there.
You knew there was Martin inthere Um, yeah, just recapping
the, uh, the Super Bowl bets,uh, sto I both took, uh, took
Philly to win.
Um, I hedged that with thechiefs.

Stoy Hall (56:38):
Oh, I can't get the cap open half, I can't

Cole Ingle (56:39):
drink it.
And he had Philly cover as well.
He had the over 50 and a half,which slay.
Uh, I had the under and thetiebreaker in our one and two
battle, um, was first play ofthe game to be a run in our
pass.
And I took run.
So slate, slate it.
And now Stoy is, uh,

(57:00):
lended

Stoy Hall (57:00):
whiskey with 80% green.
Neutral spirits.
Yeah, 49 and a

Cole Ingle (57:05):
half percent.
A not root beer barrel.
At least you knew it was comingand it's still bad.
See?
And it's still bad.
Now imagine if you thought thatwas gonna be root beer.
Yeah.
Now it's gonna be this week foryou.

(57:25):
Might as well eat a cherry.
I'm about to Here.
I'll save you guys.
You want to pick your golf onenow?
Take it later, guys.
Gosh, I really hope there's notanother one of those in there.
There's not.

Stoy Hall (57:38):
I know.
Um, um,

Cole Ingle (57:42):
woo.
Worst one ever.
It'ss worse.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (57:48):
It has no flavor.
None.
No.
It actually, there's a barrel onhere.
It tastes like if you would chewthe outside of the barrel.
Yeah.
And then it's just awful.
Yeah.
How good.
Mixed with more different lalacsthan I

Cole Ingle (58:04):
start middle finish.
Awful, awful,

Stoy Hall (58:06):
awful.
That's bad.
Yep.
I'm actually looking forward tothe bananas.
I

Cole Ingle (58:08):
mean, that's an actual shitty shot right there.
That is, that's bad.
And you hadn't taken the shot ina while, so you, I haven't You
deserved a, yeah.
A good shitty shot.
Yeah.
There's some good face there.
Oh.
Ah.
All right.
That was fun.
Can't wait till that gets cut upthis week.
Yeah,

Stoy Hall (58:23):
go ahead.
And some reaction.
You can start the golf there,buddy.

Cole Ingle (58:26):
All right.
Jump into, uh, the WasteManagement Phoenix.
I don't even know if you wannacall it a golf tournament.
Entertainment venue, venue,concert venue, uh, streaker

(58:48):
venue.
All I

Stoy Hall (58:49):
know is I had a lunch today with an insurance broker
guy.
Mm-hmm.
And he even brought up with acouple buddies that they were
talking, we talked about thislast season mm-hmm.
um, that this should happen, youknow, at least three times a
year.
Yeah.
I, you know, we've said two,right?
For sure.
Three, you could stretch, puttwo for sure.

(59:10):
Um, so if, and he, and he's, I'mjust a ha like legitimate hack
golfer.
He's a, I'm like, yeah.
because it's fun.
Yeah.
It's entertaining.
Um, and again, we'll allude toit again.
They'll live once that Right.
And that's the whole point, butmm-hmm.
um, yeah, you can, you can callit a, doing what the

Cole Ingle (59:28):
Liv can't, you can call it an event, drawing the
viewers and the fans over300,000, uh, fans there.

Stoy Hall (59:36):
You know, what I loved the most about it is all
of the names that we discussed,e that were on our board and off
our board.
Mm-hmm.
definitely played well.
I mean, the really, the one thatwas wrong the most was JT for
you.
Mm-hmm.
that like of all of them Yeah.
That we discussed.
I mean, Fowler, yeah.
Looked good.
Mm-hmm.
right.
So it was, it was pretty, pretty

Cole Ingle (59:57):
solid over on.
Yeah.
Um, tournament was great.
Uh, very windy and a littlechilly.
Uh, frost delay on Thursday,weird.
And uh, and then the wind was,um, wreaking a little havoc.
So definitely had, um, someinfluence there overall.
but, uh, ultimately, uh, thecream kind of rose to the top

(01:00:21):
there.
Mm-hmm.
um, as it always seems to do,uh, in that tournament.
And, um, you know, ScottyScheffler ends up pulling it
out.
I think three strokes is what heended up winning by.
Yeah.
Um, but uh, was closer than thatgoing into, uh, basically came
down to two putts, uh, put on16, put on 17 for a guy that

(01:00:43):
I'm, whoever the guy in secondplace was, that was kind of a
surprise.
Not really remembering his nameright now.
Don't really care his secondplace.
But yeah, he, uh, he had a sixfooter on 16 that would've kept
it competitive and had a puttthat had no, like Shuffler was
walking his putt in on 17 and itlipped out.

(01:01:04):
Um, and both of those would'vekept whole 18 more competitive,
um, where Shuffler would'veactually.
Had to do pressure a little bitmore.
Um, other than make, I think hehad to make a double bogie on 18
in order to, to win.
Um, so, and he made either paror Bogie one of the two.
So, um, so yeah, kind of a sametype of finish as the Super
Bowl, as we kind of alluded to.

(01:01:26):
Uh, one of those things wherehad a chance coming down the
stretch and just kind of fizzledout as far as being super
exciting.
But, uh, always a fun watchnonetheless and picks for the
week.
Um, you had Hadi at plus 3,500,uh, finished T 29.

(01:01:47):
Yes maam.
And I had Sam Burns.
Yep.
Our, um, plus 4,500,

Stoy Hall (01:01:52):
I just told you.
Hey, I just want everyone toknow I felt good about that one.
Yeah, right.
Um, I all alluded to that beforehe picked Right.
So he just followed what I said.
Yeah, yeah,

Cole Ingle (01:01:59):
yeah.
Uh, and he finished tied sixth,uh, as one and done, uh,$652,500
to the kitty also at this.
We, I don't know, we haven'treally hit on it, but this was,
was it this week or last week?
That was the first, I think itwas last week.
It was the first week of the newPGA payouts.

(01:02:21):
They are large.
Second, second place made over 2million in this one.
Yeah.
And Sky it was, it wasridiculous.
Close to four, um, you know,burns finish outta the top five
and still makes over a halfmillion dollars.
So those are the kind of potsyou're gonna start to see kind
of purses you're gonna start tosee throughout the year.
So don't be as surprised asthose numbers are going to be
very large.

(01:02:41):
Uh, Phoenix opens actually oneof the larger ones as well
though.
Um, just because of the fanfarethat comes around that.
I mean, they make

Stoy Hall (01:02:50):
a shit ton of money.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (01:02:52):
Like it's be real.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a, yeah, it's afour day event.
It's, it's, um, it's a thing.
So my father-in-law flew in onFriday night and actually ended
up going with his buddy to thetournament on Saturday.
It took him an hour to get.
in the gate to an area to wherethey could watch.

(01:03:12):
And they were in either, I thinkthey were in on 17 around the
bleacher area.
He was on TV on Saturday andthen Fox had their pregame show
on Sunday and they were threerows deep directly behind the
guys doing the pre-game show.
And he was on TV like fourdifferent times.

(01:03:32):
Oh, nice.
On the Fox pre-game show.
Nice.
So like he had himself aweekend.
He had a weekend.
Um, yeah, definitely livedvicariously through, through
Gary this weekend.
So, um, shout out to him forgetting to see his team win the
Super Bowl, getting to go to thewaste management.
Right.
And also getting on TV andgetting to be about eight feet

(01:03:52):
away from Gronk and the crewthere on Fox on, on Sunday.
So weekend.
Yeah.
Had, had, got, got back todaystill.
I mean, I think he'll, he'll beon Cloud nine for a while,

Stoy Hall (01:04:04):
so, yeah, that year made, his years probably made.

Cole Ingle (01:04:07):
So yeah.
Worth, uh, definitely worthevery penny there for him.
Uh, moving back to golf though,outright winners, uh, soy.
You took Houma who had a momentout of the sand, didn't we?
I thought we had.
Yeah, we, you did.
We you skipped it and thendidn't get back to it.
He threw a club, threw a club,laser gens.
He threw a club and then hecommented on it.
Yes, which is great.

(01:04:28):
Not his greatest moment, but,uh, home was always a, he's
always a fun follow.
Ended up T 39, which was not asgood as he would've liked, but
struggled a little bit at times.
Uh, I went with Fiau, uh, justanother solid finish.
Uh, tied 14 was never really inthe running, but never out side
of the top 20 either.

(01:04:48):
So, uh, solid showing for him.
Dark horse, black stallions.
Uh, we went with Sahi.
Takala for you and Jason Day forme.
Oh, damn.
Uh, J Day has been consistentand, uh, good.
He finished fifth outright.
Wow.
So that was, uh, a big day forhim, a big payday for him on top

(01:05:10):
of putting back-to-backtournaments together and
starting to put solid roundafter solid round together like
we were used to seeing shoot,five to seven years ago.
Yeah.
Um,

Stoy Hall (01:05:21):
he plays like this.
He's gonna win this year.
Yeah, I'm just

Cole Ingle (01:05:24):
saying.
And, uh, he's gotta stayhealthy, you know.
solid showing Never was reallyin the running for this one
either.
Uh, he also tied 39th.
Um, so that was where, uh, I hada solid top of the board.
Yeah.
And you had a solid bottom ofthe board.
Uh, Bo Hostler, your boy, boy,Bob, um, you're my boy Bo shot,
uh, 800 Yeah.

(01:05:46):
On Sunday, I believe.

Stoy Hall (01:05:50):
Yeah.
To get the T 14.
Yeah, absolutely.
To get

Cole Ingle (01:05:52):
to 800.
Yeah.
Because he was even par andfinished T 14.
Awesome.
So he went from outside the top40 to very deep, well, very deep
inside.
Um, shot the lowest round of theweek 63.
Uh, Tom hok missed the cut.
Uh, I had hok and then playersto fade.
You absolutely nailed.
Can't lay, um, in all of theways he, uh, was bad to, um,

(01:06:19):
tied seven, uh, for favoritesoverall to start.
He missed the cut.
Uh, I had jt, uh, didn't startwell, but, uh, put a handful of
solid rounds together.
Uh, ended up T seven, kind ofactually kind of shook the bed a
little bit on Sunday.
Um, but, uh, he finished fourth.
Yeah,

Stoy Hall (01:06:39):
fourth.
Yeah.
Um, that's the

Cole Ingle (01:06:41):
opposite of a six.
So he, he got himself into somebig money as well.
Um, he didn't get a ton of TVtime though.
No, he didn't.
Um, especially for him.
Usually he really did.
Even if he's on there, um,you're gonna see him.
But you had ramm and Shuffler,um, rom didn't even play good
golf.
And somehow that guy is just,was there, there.

(01:07:01):
He's just there fingering.
Just there.
Um, that's how good his game is.
And the amazing amount ofrespect that those guys have for
him is that Scheffler wasbasically pulling the ball for
two and a half days, off thetee, and Rom just never felt
like he was ever in any flow.

(01:07:22):
And those guys shot what, like20 and 1600 bar, um, you know,
against that field.
Yeah.
So in those, it just tells youhow good those are.
There's so much shuffler.
Just like every time I feel likehe's going to drop down, he
finds a way to score it.
It's like he's like the giantversion of spe because Yeah.

(01:07:47):
He can still putt.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:07:49):
I, I just don't think he's gonna have the, the mental
thing with that spe went through

Cole Ingle (01:07:53):
and is still, I just battling with.
um, ever since the Masters heis.
But the thing with, yeah, andthe thing with Scheffler is that
he's so unorthodox in, in all ofhis things.
Like he's not, he's not roboticat all.
I think that helps.
So that helps, yeah.
Speaks more the way that hescores.
Whereas speech robotic surprisedto get back to being golf.

(01:08:14):
Perfect.
When his game is.
Feel, feel.
And so like at some point youhave to just feel it.
Let it go.
Let let it go.
Uh, yeah.
Um, that's my three year old'sfavorite song right now.
Do you think We have children,so um, I hear that every night
before bed, but uh, yeah.
So that's, that's my thing withSheffler right now is the guy,

(01:08:36):
the guy can feel himself awayaround the golf course, um,
better than anyone else in theworld right now.
And that was obvious by thistournament because he wasn't
playing his best golf and stilldominated that tournament.
Yeah, absolutely.
Um, pretty much led wired wirehe did.
And so same type of thing.
He, uh, he's been in everytournament this year.

(01:08:57):
and he scheffler is now numberone in the world.
Ramm is still two, in myopinion.
Ramm is number one.
Ramm is number one based on howhe's played throughout the year.
Correct.
Now those two probably gonnabattle it out with a couple
other people.
Rory hasn't really hit hisstride yet.
Um, Fowler and day are lurking.
Yeah, they look good

Stoy Hall (01:09:17):
and it's gonna be fun.

Cole Ingle (01:09:18):
I think this year now we have Lt Gray coming back,
so some of the OGs coming back,coming back.
Oh, it's hard.
Can he withstand We'll

Stoy Hall (01:09:36):
talk about that.
But hey, before, before theygrinded, before we get to the
Genesis mm-hmm.
our weekly ranking, we tied, weboth had nine points.
So it, it pays the score.
I have scored, I think I, I'mpretty sure I've scored at least
a point every time Right?
In that it pays, it pays to dothat.

Cole Ingle (01:09:52):
So we are now season points, uh, to your point, 20 to
15 year lead.
Uh, shitty shot count is noweven at two, and you are getting
dominated in the money count,but that's only because Sam
Burns.
I mean, we're gonna see thatnumber fluctuate quite a bit and
look like it's way out of reachwhen it just takes one, one win.

(01:10:15):
One T six, one TC one t six toget back in the, the rankings.
But without further ado it.
It is,

Stoy Hall (01:10:24):
it is time.
Time.
Where's the, which?

Cole Ingle (01:10:28):
Like which one do you want?
The It is time.
I don't think we have it.
Yeah, it's our

Stoy Hall (01:10:34):
intro.
Oh, this one?
The goon

Cole Ingle (01:10:38):
squad.

Stoy Hall (01:10:40):
We haven't.
It is time.
Yeah, but it's not on here.
Oh,

Cole Ingle (01:10:43):
it's here.
It's

Stoy Hall (01:10:44):
on, it's on.
Wow.
I'll work on that.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, I do.
I do.
But it is time the genesis Open.
Um, if you guys are not aware,it's a big deal.
And the reason it's a big dealis Lt Gray is back, and I am
pretty damn excited because theway he was striking the ball,

(01:11:05):
um, at the event was pretty

Cole Ingle (01:11:08):
good.
Yeah.
Ball striking not an

Stoy Hall (01:11:12):
not an issue.
Can he walk for four days, isreally the issue.
Mm-hmm.
and, um, we'll, see.
I, I'm gonna take mine.
I don't think he's ready to go.
I think he's ready to

Cole Ingle (01:11:21):
go.
Mean, obviously he's not gonnatweet if he's not, so Tiger's
been pretty quiet.

Stoy Hall (01:11:26):
Yes.
So this is the difference ofthis year, last year.
Mm-hmm.
for me, last year he was talkinga little more mm-hmm.
he was talking about, oh, I'mnot quite there.
You know, I'm getting worked upand grinding into it.
Right, right.
All of those things.
Dude hasn't said a word really.
This, this year.
No.
And then all of a sudden justsays it's time.

(01:11:49):
I'm ready.
Mm-hmm.
that, that bodes well, I think,in my opinion, and I, and I
believe you saw glimpses ofthat, obviously with his ball
striking.
Yeah.
Um, he's always gonna have alimp, so I swear if you comment
about his damn limp, limp evenmore.
Move on with life.
Don't watch golf.
You suck.
He's gonna have a limp.
He limps.

(01:12:09):
He has a leg that is longer thanthe other.
Okay.
In pain.
So get over it.
But ball striking.
Legit.
So, to tiger, I'm taking thisshitty shot.
That's not the reason, but I'm

Cole Ingle (01:12:24):
going to, that'll be better than what you just did.
It's

Stoy Hall (01:12:27):
so much better.
Yeah.
You know the banana runts?
Mm-hmm.
Andy, that's what that is.
Fall by cherry.
So let's get into it.

(01:12:49):
the Genesis Invitational hostedby

Cole Ingle (01:12:51):
Woods.
Mm-hmm.
um, as I think we mm-hmm.
most, no.
Um, played at Riviera.
Uh, you wanna check weather?
Mm-hmm.

Stoy Hall (01:13:03):
we got the weather.
I'll do it.
Um,

Cole Ingle (01:13:05):
this is a, just an absolute beautiful golf course.
Um, outside of the majors mightbe a top two golf course.
These guys play all year.
Yep.
Um, from a golf course, beautyperspective.
Yep.
I don't know if that's the rightword, but, uh, just a, just a

(01:13:27):
wonderful golf course.
Players love it.
Um, and, uh, there will be a lotof fanfare here as well.
Um, three weeks in a row wherethere's been quite a bit with,
uh, pebble Beach ProAm, and thenyou have.
obviously ProAm and, and all ofthe celebrities and all of the

(01:13:50):
people in general at the PhoenixOpen.
And Genesis also has a ProAm.
Uh, also gonna be a ton ofpeople, uh, around.
So Tiger's gonna be there.
A huge buzz in general becauseit's Tiger's tournament.
But golf, the P PGA tour isgoing, is off to its hottest

(01:14:12):
start in a while.
I would say ever Debatably.
Yeah.
As far as from a start, I wouldhave to do a lot starting
perspective of what it's, howit's built up and you're
building up to obviously Tiger.
Um, but like you had the mostfun golf tournament last week
and then you get Tiger, getTiger this week and you get the
release all week this week ofthe Netflix documentary, which

(01:14:37):
BJ's doing well.
Um, I've seen just a couplesnippets.

Stoy Hall (01:14:41):
Glimpses really like

Cole Ingle (01:14:43):
it.
Oh my gosh, I'm all about it.
Yep.
So, uh, maybe a little bit moreabout that next week, uh, as I
get a chance to dive into those.
But, uh, yeah, just, uh,

Stoy Hall (01:14:52):
so weather, weather report.
Mm-hmm.
Thursday 63, high.
Friday 64, high.
Saturday's the issue, 64%.
Chance of rain at 63 degrees.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Um, okay.
All right.
Random adss.
Get out, get out the way.

(01:15:13):
Um, wind's gonna be on Saturday,on the rain day, about 13 miles
an hour.
Seven to 13, not, that's notbad.
Mm-hmm.
um, not bad at all.
So really just, uh, uh, what isexpected at this time of the
year.
Oh, um, wind gusts on Friday, 16miles an hour.

(01:15:33):
um, Sunday, which is the daythat we all hope that tigers in
contention cuz the world andTwitter will break.
Mm-hmm.
again.
16.
So we're gonna have Gus up to 16all week.
Um, with steady set, five toseven miles an hour.
Nothing that is unexpected.
The rain on Saturday could,could be an issue, maybe delay

(01:15:54):
little things.
Right.
Um, but again, it's onlyTuesday, so we've got some time
before, before that report istrue.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (01:16:04):
Um, a lot of big things coming out this week.
Um, you know, you've got, Imean, Tiger's gonna be the talk
of the town.
Who?
Tiger.
Oh, that guy.
Tiger.
Woods.
Tiger, tiger, tiger, tigerWoods.
Y'all.
Y'all get it.

(01:16:24):
Um, I just hope there's nodelays.
that would suck because based onyour weather report.
Yeah.
I have two concerns for him.
One is delays.
Delays, okay.
Delayed.
That's gonna be bad.
Yeah.
Because he is going to be verymuch in routine of, routine of

(01:16:47):
warmup, stay in, stay warm,continue to play throughout the
round.
The other concern is rain andjoints.
Remember it rains or anyprecipitation, but rain your
joints hurt.
Yeah, they do.
Especially when you're old.
Part of being old.
Um, which we experience now.
Yep.
Um, I knew it was gonna raintoday before it rained and now I

(01:17:11):
know how my dad felt.
Yeah.
And he would just be like, ohyeah, it's gonna rain.
Like, uh, how do you like Yeah,I feel it because my knee's
about to, you know?
Yeah.
So like, I feel that now.
Right.
Um, and that's how I, it's likea.
I've been, she's your oldchristened with age.
With age, yes.

Stoy Hall (01:17:29):
Um, with age.
We're just gonna, by the way,video, have the video in the
background while we chat aboutcourse.
I

Cole Ingle (01:17:33):
mean, just look at the place.
Just absolutely.
I want gorgeous.
I'm want go.
I just want to be go there.
I just wanna be there.

Stoy Hall (01:17:41):
I would have fun.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (01:17:43):
Um, but, uh, yeah, I mean, big things this week.
The green's a little tougherhere.
Um, the good guys play wellhere.
Um, if you look back, you know,last three or four years, uh,
there's always big names at thetop.

(01:18:04):
Um, and it's a big event.
So these guys, I mean, just likelast week, um, these guys know
that, uh, the field is going tobe tough, the purse is gonna be
big.
Um, the crowds are gonna be big,huge.
So, uh, those, those.
better known names usually do,um, better in those situations.
Yeah, absolutely.
Uh, the nerves are not as muchof a thing for them, uh, as they

(01:18:27):
are for, for most others, so,yeah.
You're

Stoy Hall (01:18:29):
not wrong.
I mean, it is a, it's a prettydeep field.
Yeah.
Ladies and jets, this is, thisis what you want to see.
Yeah.
Um, yes.
A lot of fun last week.
Uh, but this week, uh, thisweek, let's get down to some
just gritty, solid golf.
Now, how hard would do you thinkthey make this?
Like, um, is this the type ofcourse where they ratchet it up

(01:18:55):
or, you know, are we talking,you know, under 10 wins it or
are we still in that 10 to

Cole Ingle (01:19:01):
18 mark?
I don't think there's gonna beenough wind.
Um, I don't think the rain keepsthem from scoring it.
It needs weather to protect it.
Yeah.
I mean, I didn't, I didn't hearenough wind.
I didn't hear it's just gonna inyour forecast.
No.
Do you want to, although I willsay, The Phoenix Open, got more
weather and was on randomly morerandom weather.

(01:19:24):
They got all of the weatherthere.
They went from stocking hats andfairly heavy jackets to shorts
and t-shirts, weather throughoutthe week and throughout the day
and throughout the week.
Right.
Um, with wind.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
And then throw wind on top ofit, so, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Oh man.
Where do we wanna start today?

Stoy Hall (01:19:44):
Let's start, uh, let's go in the middle, let's do
top 40, then we go down.
Okay.
And then we'll go dark horse up.
Let's switch it up.
Okay.
Top 40.
I mean, you know where we'regoing ladies and gens.
I mean, come on.
Is there another top 40?
Although Bo is still plus one30.
Mm-hmm.
you should, you should takethat.

(01:20:05):
You should probably take thatguys.
He's not doing it.
Huh?
You're not riding it.
I, I want to, so bad.
I gotta see what tickers at plus200 on, uh, Jeff Kings.
This is by the way, for top 40.
Yeah.
See what, uh, Fandule can getus.

Cole Ingle (01:20:24):
Uh, what did you say, hustler's?
One 30.
Yep.
And Sea Gras 200, 2 10.

Stoy Hall (01:20:32):
Oh, okay.
Not too bad.
Not too bad off.
I re I really, really would loveto ride with my, my tigre.

Cole Ingle (01:20:40):
We can do a separate tiger

Stoy Hall (01:20:41):
bet.
Let's just do separate tigerbets.
Yeah.
Cuz his first all of our tiger.
So I'm gonna ride with, with Boat plus one 30.
Like I don't understand why Iwouldn't tell me.
I mean, let, let's be real here.
People.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (01:20:58):
He's played a lot of golf.
He's probably getting tired.

Stoy Hall (01:21:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like no one can say thatearly in the season too.
You're not gonna say that whenyou're.
with Tiger this weekend in the,the energy on the course.
There's no way you feel tired,there's no way nerves.
Why get to him?
He's young.
Okay.
Might happen.
But he's, he's playing goodgolf.
So I'm gonna ride, oh,

Cole Ingle (01:21:24):
where am I going here?
Where am I going?
Hmm.
Do, do, do, do, do.

(01:21:47):
Who's gonna go?
Who's gonna have the hot putterthis week?
That's ultimately what it'sgonna come down to.
You know what?
This guy won a couple weeks ago.
Mm.
and, uh, give it to him.
Give it to him.
Not a, not great odds overall,but, uh, I'll take Justin Rose
plus 1 0 5.
Jay Rose.

Stoy Hall (01:22:08):
Okay.
With a week off.
Yep.

Cole Ingle (01:22:10):
Did not play last week.
Makes sense.
One, two weeks ago, uh, atPebble, um, playing some good
golf and it's going to be, um,in the top 40.
There you go.
And did you, which way did yousay we're going?

Stoy Hall (01:22:25):
Uh, down, down, down.
So time to fade.
Um, easy for me.
I'm, um, I ride the Cantleytrain to the ground still no
need to change that.
Um, plus 22.
He is, uh, ninth, flat outninth.
Can't

Cole Ingle (01:22:43):
lay at ninth.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
Yes, indeed.
Uh, ninth.
All alone.

Stoy Hall (01:22:52):
Oh,

Cole Ingle (01:22:52):
by, and oh man.
It's not an easy one.
It's not.
Um, just quick top 10 romMcElroy.
Shuffler Shuffle.
Thomas Fiau.
Homa Makawa.
Cantley.
M and Holand tied.

(01:23:14):
Yes.
Uh, I mean, uh,

Stoy Hall (01:23:18):
yeah, I mean it, there's only one that's not
playing good golf.
So, sorry about it.
We're going Okay.
Land nine.

Cole Ingle (01:23:27):
Oh man.
What do I want to do here?
I want to go with, oh,

Stoy Hall (01:23:38):
finish outside.
Like,

Cole Ingle (01:23:41):
man,

Stoy Hall (01:23:45):
You can't pick any of the top four Pheno.
Maybe jt he proved you wronglast week.
Yeah, almost playing at home.
Right.
Bad idea.
He loves this course.
Marco Kawa also plays well withthis course.
Yeah.
Then you really got Cantley,Holin and m maybe those I if, if
you're gonna choose three tofade.
Yeah.

(01:24:05):
I don't see how you couldchoose, unless you're just
playing the game.
Obviously you could always gorom and I'm

Cole Ingle (01:24:11):
gonna say the game.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna sayShuffler.
Shuffler.
Okay.
Um, chances are he doesn't winback to back.
No, you're, you're not wrong.
Um, hasn't, it doesn't happenvery often.
The, so he's third.
Yeah.
Um mm-hmm.
Okay.
I can't be mad about him notgoing with Cantley.

(01:24:31):
Also Uh, so, and I think that hebounces back after a bad week
last week.
So,

Stoy Hall (01:24:37):
um, yeah.
But a bounce back for him wouldbe be top 40

Cole Ingle (01:24:40):
Oh, I get it.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
Make the cut.
Absolutely.
Cool.
Um, but yeah.
Um, yeah, that's not by pick,you know, that's with the greens
being what they are.
Um, shuffler can get a littleloose with the putter.
Mm-hmm.
Um, he can also get en fugo witha putter.
So, so, um, all right, chef, allthat I'm, uh, feel that's fine.
I would not put, I would putnegative dollars on that Ne

Stoy Hall (01:25:03):
negative dollars.
All

Cole Ingle (01:25:04):
right.
Black Stallion.
Uh, black Stallion.
I don't think there's

Stoy Hall (01:25:08):
another,

Cole Ingle (01:25:09):
um, wow.
Side of, let's see, what wasthat?
5,000?
Yeah, I mean, gimme Ricky, goddamn it, beat him to the punch
son.
He's right at, plus he's rightat plus 5,000,

Stoy Hall (01:25:26):
5,500

Cole Ingle (01:25:27):
and, uh, get that, get that 5,500.
I will take it.
Um, yeah, gimme Ricky to stayhot

Stoy Hall (01:25:44):
between two people and for two different reasons.
Yeah.
Kegan Bradley, um, he's beenplaying decently.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and again, we'll play betterearly in the season.
Yeah.
Corey Connors always wins earlyin the season for some reason.
I don't understand that Canadian

Cole Ingle (01:26:00):
space.
I haven't noticed.
Has he even, I don't know

Stoy Hall (01:26:01):
how he's been playing this year.
Yeah.
I don't know how he's, I haven'theard.

Cole Ingle (01:26:03):
Right.
You know, we've been doing somuch good research that

Stoy Hall (01:26:07):
it's football.
It was football season.
I'm just like, what are wesupposed to do?
I get, I get it, I get it.
Um, so, you know, you know,gimme Keegan at uh, plus 6,000
by the way, for all of thosecounting at home.
By the way, if we weren't doingTiger Side beds, tiger would be

(01:26:28):
my top 40.
My dark horse.
Um, I'd leave it at those two,by the way, because I will ride
Tigre to the ground.
Oh.
Look at this DraftKings TigerWoods to make the cut, boost it
to plus 200.
Draft Kings

Cole Ingle (01:26:44):
gonna make a lot of money this week.

Stoy Hall (01:26:47):
Yeah, that's a tough, that's a tough cut to make.

Cole Ingle (01:26:50):
Yeah.
I mean, he's plus 12,000

Stoy Hall (01:26:52):
to win.
No, he's not.
He's plus 15,000

Cole Ingle (01:26:56):
Go to Draft Kings folks.
Um, wow.
Yeah.
Then you've got, um, it's gosh,plus 12 and these, plus 15 on
DraftKings.
Yeah.
15.
Yeah.
That is huge.
I mean, honestly though, 50,that's huge.

(01:27:19):
There's nobody at plus 15 onpdu.
You can't get those odds foranyone.
14

Stoy Hall (01:27:24):
to 16th.
There is There's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,12,000.

Cole Ingle (01:27:28):
There's a, there's six F 15.
Yeah.
Same thing with 12,000, oractually there's eight, 12,000
on pand,

Stoy Hall (01:27:33):
zero at 12.
Mm-hmm.
it's weird house.
Weird.
For, I mean, to, to say that I'mnot gonna sprinkle some on
Tiger's.

Cole Ingle (01:27:42):
Um, I can get you 6,500 on FanDuel for King
Bradley though.
I will take it.
So, um, alright, winner, youwanna go first?
You want me to,

Stoy Hall (01:27:51):
uh, I need to scroll back up.
The outright winner.
Um, boy.
Oh boy.
Oh boy, oh boy.
Oh boy, boy, boy.
This, um, man, I really wouldlike to take those guys.
Uh, this, this feels like a, aMara Kaba type situation for me.

Cole Ingle (01:28:18):
I'm riding my boy Max this week.
Yeah.
I like,

Stoy Hall (01:28:21):
I don't, I don't, I don't hate, I'd like both of
them.
Those are my two that I waspicking between, so, um,

Cole Ingle (01:28:27):
plus two thousands for 2000 and Yes.
So, yeah, I don't even need toput that in there really.
But

Stoy Hall (01:28:34):
even there, Go one and done one and dones one and
dones.
You know what, this is just cuzhe is playing so well and I
gotta give the, I'm, I'm allabout the old dogs in this one.
Give me j day plus 4,500 if he'sgonna win.

(01:29:02):
Oh yeah.
He's only 3,700.

Cole Ingle (01:29:03):
Ooh,

Stoy Hall (01:29:03):
okay.
Okay.
If he's gonna win, it's gonna beearly.
Um, or at a or at a major.
I don't think there's an inbetween.
Yeah.
For him.
And, uh, yeah, let, let's dothat.
Although I don't like the cold.
I don't When you have back, whenyou have a, a back thing, cold
weather's probably not good.
Yeah.
But I'm gonna, I'm gonna ridewith him.

(01:29:24):
Um, I'm all but nostalgia thisweek all about, oh

Cole Ingle (01:29:31):
man, who am I?

Stoy Hall (01:29:34):
Tiger.
No.
Save that one for the masters.

Cole Ingle (01:29:41):
Oh, I'm actually debating moving Homa to my one.
And done.
That's actually

Stoy Hall (01:29:47):
n a good call.
I think I'm gonna

Cole Ingle (01:29:50):
do that.
That's a good call.
He's plus 2000.
Yeah.
I'm gonna go one and done withHoma this week.
I like that.
Um, at his home course.
So I need to switch my outrightnow.
Outright Winner.
My outright winner for the week.

Stoy Hall (01:30:05):
Pronunciate

Cole Ingle (01:30:06):
the Ts.
Ouch.
Outright.
Outright.
What's up?
We're gonna mix things A littlesty.

Stoy Hall (01:30:19):
Oh, he's doing it.
Ladies and gens.
Ladies and gens.
We have our first, I don't, Idon't know what we call'em, but
shitty shots side.

Cole Ingle (01:30:29):
We

Stoy Hall (01:30:29):
call it a side.
Shitty.
A A side shitty.
Shitty side.
A shitty side.
Uh, Cole take the

Cole Ingle (01:30:36):
honors of why, um, I am going to actually switch out
and I'm going to take, cant layah, as my outright winner.
Mm.
Fresh off a miscut.
And he is super fresh.
He's been playing Genesis,getting the fuel of the land,
the lay of the land all week.
Um, he's not a guy that stayedaround the Phoenix Open for damn

(01:30:56):
sure Um, he's gonna fly underthe radar as Tiger comes in,
makes his big entrance thisweek, and he will find a way to
get the w The w, yeah.
And give Stoy three shittyshots.
Wow.

Stoy Hall (01:31:16):
Going all out, huh?
Yeah, I like it.

Cole Ingle (01:31:18):
Well, I mean, he is my outright winner, so.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
He would be triple for you.
That would be right.
Mm-hmm.
a double for the win, and thenone for, since we both chose
him.
Yeah, this isn't outrightwinning, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
All right.
How, I just wanna, sure.
I add the

Stoy Hall (01:31:33):
rules for how that, how that works if he doesn't
win, cuz he won't.
Right.
uh, since I faded him since, um,he has to fade, I believe that's
this way, he has to fade morethan 10 spots.
So he has tot 19 and, and youhave a shitty shot, right?
Yeah.
That, how that works on thebottom side.

(01:31:55):
Correct.
So there it is.
And if he's, if it's any, youknow, anywhere in, in between,
then I have one shitty shot.
Yes.
There it is.
So,

Cole Ingle (01:32:05):
uh, quick recap, uh, top to bottom here, one and
done.
You've got, uh, J day, I've gotMax Homa at his home course
Outright winners.
You've got Colin Mark Hawa, Ihave Patrick Cantley, you have
Keegan Bradley as your blackstallion.
I'm taking Ricky Fowler.
Bo Hostler is continuing to get,Road like a rented mule by Stoy

(01:32:30):
in the top 40.
It won't stop.
And, uh, I'll take Justin Rose,um, playing well this year.
Uh, also top 40 players to fadeas we just talked about.
Patrick Cantley for Stoy, who'sprojected it at ninth.
And I have the last week'schampion, Scotty Shuffler, uh,

(01:32:51):
who's predicted third here,fading him.
See how it goes.
We

Stoy Hall (01:32:56):
will see how it goes.
Okay, big week

Cole Ingle (01:32:58):
here, uh, for golf, big week for Tiger.
And on that note, we will do ourtiger bets

Stoy Hall (01:33:05):
Tigre bets.
So very easy one.
Makes a cut.
Yes or no?
I mean, let's go.

Cole Ingle (01:33:12):
Do we have to play

Stoy Hall (01:33:12):
both sides?
Don't have to.
Don't have to.
Okay.
Tell us.
We're just gonna say'em and thenwe'll then we'll choose.
So makes a cut.
That's one.
Um, Let's see here.

(01:33:34):
What do you, oh, I see whatyou're doing.
Yes.
Yeah, he's gonna make a cut.
Okay.
He's not gonna miss the cut.
Yep.
All right.

Cole Ingle (01:33:53):
Um, top 20.
Top 20.
Be good one.
I mean, what's his tiger's?
Very, um, that's one thing thatover the last few years he's
become very much a realist.
Mm-hmm.
and your talk with how he talkedlast year about comfortability
coming back and everything likethat, this question will get

(01:34:16):
asked.
Mm-hmm.
at some point this week.
We'll, you know, possibly have aclip or anything like that.
You know, what's yourexpectation this week, tiger?
Uh, that'll be the question andMedia day and Tiger will give us
a very candid answer.
Um, is this the number?

Stoy Hall (01:34:33):
Um, while I'm back up?
I don't think he gives one thisweek.
I don't think his, I don't thinkhe's that way right now.
Okay.
He's not even there yet.
I'm saying I I think he's sayingI'm gonna win.
He won't say I'm going to win.
He's saying I'm in thetournament.
I'm playing to win.
Okay.
So you think, I think hismindset has changed.
You think he's all the, youthink he's flipped back?

(01:34:54):
I think he's back in his mind,right?
No.
And

Cole Ingle (01:34:56):
physical.
I think he's back and him thegame of golf, that's all that
matters.
I I, let's be very clear.
Yes.
Especially for the guy that'sthe greatest of

Stoy Hall (01:35:02):
all time.
I think he flipped that switch.
Okay.
And the only reason is cuz he'sbeen silent.
Oh, silent.
And his ball striking was in, inthe event was he was ball
striking better than them.
Yep.
That's fine.
So I think he has flipped thatswitch.
So top 20 for you top?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm give him, I'll give him top20.

(01:35:24):
I prefer like a top 25, but liketop 20 is, if he doesn't, I
believe he'll be disappointed.
Okay.
I am going.
No, that's fair.
I,

Cole Ingle (01:35:34):
I, and definitely can see that there's only one
reason that I'm going.
No.
And it has been an issue thatTiger has dealt with, I feel
like, since the injury, but Ithink it's because he's had too
much time, his putting Oh, it'sgotten worse.

(01:35:55):
What the hell?
Um, he has similar to like speas far as like, not really on
the short, short ones, yeah.
But as far as just likemisreads, um, maybe messing
with.
you know, feels gotta be alittle bit different on the,
yeah.
On the knee, changing putters,like that type of stuff.
I mean, J t's kind of gonethrough it as well, but I think

(01:36:18):
that the putter holds him backthis week, um, which is just
going to motivate him any evenmore, uh, as he moves through
the season, I think.
But that, that's my, my onething that I think keeps him
from being really in cont uh,contention this week is there's
gonna be one or two bogies and,or one or two missed birdie

(01:36:43):
opportunities because incombination each day, because of
flat stick, they end up being onthe flat stick where, you know,
instead of three under, orinstead of 500, he shoots three
under.
That's fair.
You know?
Um, and that's going to add upover four days, um, to be, you
know, top 40.
I, I feel fairly confident inYeah.

(01:37:05):
But I, I don't think much morethan that.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:37:08):
I, Hey, I, and I can because of that club in, that's
probably the club that comes,it, it obviously, it always
comes outta putting, let's bereal, but like, you're, you're
not wrong now, I, I just, IThere's something different.
Yeah.
There's something different.
I'm not, so I'm gonna, I'm gonnaride on him until he shows it
because there's just, there isjust a different tone Right.

(01:37:31):
To this season with it.
Um, and I, I truly believe, I, Ithink he's a hundred percent
health as healthy as he couldever be.
Right.
But I think he is like theplantar fasciitis and that stuff
allowed him to put, he couldstill put a ton.
Yeah.
And you just broke the computer.
Yeah.
Um, good thing.

(01:37:52):
And, and so I don't, I don't, Ithink now mentally I think we're
gonna see, I think we're gonnasee, we're gonna see dacker.
I think we're gonna see the realtiger.
Free the putter up for him.
Yeah.
No, I think he'll still be,it'll be, it won't be Tiger Que
yet.
I think that's a buildup,because here's the thing, it's
still just off.

Cole Ingle (01:38:08):
I think with the putter that he, goat Tiger was
so good at putting, because itwas a, he, he knew he could
score and belong and mm-hmm.
do anything that he needed to dowith all of his other clubs.

(01:38:28):
Mm-hmm.
and I think during the injuryperiod specifically, he knew he
had to put well to score.
Well, like he couldn't do theshuffler type of things or the
speed type of things.
The pressure was on pudding.
So the pressure, even though hewas just ball striking great.
And that it wasn't necessary,his mindset at some point, I

(01:38:48):
think flipped to that.
Um, and it doesn't have to be abig thing in golf.
It's always small things.
Right.
Um, that, that led to thatmentality of, oh, I've gotta
make every putt.
It's like, no, you like yourtiger woods, you're gonna make a
40 footer.
You might chip in, you're gonnalike, fine.
And like at some point he lostthat a little bit.
He did.
And that has actually hurt hispudding because he is not as

(01:39:12):
free.
Yeah.
Uh, on the greens.
Now, if what you're saying istrue and he's changed the
mindset of what's my goal thisweek?
Which, what, what I'm thinkingis that, you know, he would say
something along the lines of top20 and you're saying No, the
reason he's back and the reasonhe is playing this week is

(01:39:33):
because he's, he's over all ofthat.
And I hope, I hope No, I know.
I know.
But that's the case.
No, no, no.
Really do, um, really do, butwe'll, he, yeah.
We use, uh, time will tell.
Um, any final tiger beds?
I don't know.
I'm,

Stoy Hall (01:39:47):
I'm trying to think of some other ones.

Cole Ingle (01:39:49):
I mean, there's not really, I mean, obviously he's
gonna, he's going to be playinggolf.
Yeah.
Um, so like any types of shotsyou think he might hit?
Um, any other clubs?
You,

Stoy Hall (01:40:00):
ah, let's do this.
This will be fun.
Does he chip in?
Uh, how about this?
You just, you said it.
Yeah.
40 footer or a chip in.
Does he do one of those?
You want 40 footer?
No, like 40 footer and, and or achip in.
And I

Cole Ingle (01:40:13):
know, but we need to, I need, we need to set a
specific distance.
40.
Are we going 40?
You set 40 in a chip in, solet's don't how many greens?
There's 40.
I I have, yeah.
No, no clue.
Clue.
So we're going 40 foot or chips?
Tough

Stoy Hall (01:40:30):
one.

Cole Ingle (01:40:33):
I, I mean, I mean the big thing is, is if he makes
the cut.
So if he gets to play fourrounds, I say I, I, I feel
something like that's happening.
Something is going to happen ifhe gets cut.
I mean, not to say that it can'thappen.
The greens are, are true there,but they're not easy.
Um, which allows for the chipins and that type of stuff.

(01:40:55):
But if you think he's going tobe really good with his irons
and in play with driver, like,he's not gonna get a ton of
those opportunities.
Right.
Uh, so I am going to go with no.
Yeah,

Stoy Hall (01:41:13):
yeah.
No, I agree.
Um, uh, and a chip in, i, if onewas to happen, I believe a chip
in would be, and it would belike a short chip in.
It won't, yeah.
It, it won't be something crazy.
He just

Cole Ingle (01:41:24):
missed Well, left himself short-sighted or left
himself.
Yeah.
And inside

Stoy Hall (01:41:28):
with a potentially easier to chip it than put it
type of situation.
Right.
Um, I, I just don't think thisearly on he's in informed enough
to do those.
He might

Cole Ingle (01:41:37):
hit it.
All he's been doing is chippingand putting, which in my mind is
why he

Stoy Hall (01:41:40):
would.
Yeah.
I, I, I, I, I, I see how we'd gothat way.
Right.
But not when you put the wholething together.
Okay.
And you have to walk.
Um, and we've seen him beforethat like, Even early last
season or when he was comingback, you know what I'm
changing.
Those short games weren't greateither.

Cole Ingle (01:41:58):
He is, he's alright.
He's doing the

Stoy Hall (01:42:00):
damn thing.
All right, now we need atiebreaker.

Cole Ingle (01:42:04):
Oh well damn it.

Stoy Hall (01:42:05):
Yeah.
Yep.
Um, ah, how about this?
Well, is average drive distance?
Is it longer than pick somebodyjt?
Just cuz they're buddies?
No.

(01:42:26):
Average drive distance.
And is it because of accuracyyou think?
Or actual distance?
I'm saying yes by the way.
And it's because he did it atthe event.

Cole Ingle (01:42:38):
Oh, that's great.
Um, I.
I don't, I mean, he's gonna beamped, don't get me wrong.
Just a gut feel.
Yeah.
On that one.
Yeah.
Uh, dry.
And we're going.
J JT is our Yeah, let's

Stoy Hall (01:42:52):
go.
Jt.
I just, cuz they're buddies.
They play together.
I, I don't know.
I have to r Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's switch it to Rory.
Yeah, let's do that.
Oramm or female?
Yeah.
Or female.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'll still take Tiger andthose, um, to be less shorter.
Uh, yeah, I think that's a funone.
All right.
Driver distance.
There we

Cole Ingle (01:43:12):
are.
So we've got, uh, both of ushave him making the cut.
I've got him outside of the top20.
You've got him inside, which Iwill be rooting for him to be
inside the top 20 all day.
Um, actually no, I, I'll saythis, I will be rooting for him
to be inside the top five.
If he is outside of the topfive, I will be rooting for him
to be outside of the top 20That's fair.

(01:43:33):
That's fair.
That's valid.
I want him to be in contentionor.
Ow.
Yeah.
Um, I do want him to play fourdays so that he can chip in, uh,
randomly on Sunday as he goesfrom Tide 55th to Tide 43rd Um,
that would be just fine.
And, uh, you know, he can spraythe ball all over the yard if he
wants to.

(01:43:53):
I don't think that's gonnahappen.
Um, I think he's gonna have thatthing on a string, honestly.
But, um, Riviera can get tightin a couple spots.
Sure can.
So I can see some three woodsbeing hit there.
Not to say that he can't hitthree wood.
Right.
Um, well, uh, JT can either begreat or struggle.
Again, not a lot of wind herethat's gonna impact one way or

(01:44:14):
the other, so.
All right.
Well, let's get it.
There it is.
It's Tiger Week.
Have a week.
Welcome back.
Y'all go watch the Netflixdocumentary.
If you have a chance, uh, insidelook at golf that, uh, give you,
uh, an amazing appreciation forthe game.
The players that play it andjust how damn good they are and

(01:44:34):
all the interactions that happeninside the ropes, um, that we
don't get, uh, much of a chanceto see throughout just a normal

Stoy Hall (01:44:41):
broadcast.
So, nope.
And we'll bring, we'll bringthat up next week.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Huh.
Have a good week.

Cole Ingle (01:44:49):
Well then it's time.
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