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Stoy Hall (00:00):
College football's back.
It's back, baby.
And by back, I mean like, it'sbeen around for a long time, but
for us, and it's
Cole Ingle (00:08):
been, yeah, I mean, what we're talking about
meddling through bowl seasonbasically at this point, but
it's playoff
Stoy Hall (00:12):
week, week one week one on that.
So let's we jump.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think we havemuch too much on the news.
So, no, you want,
Cole Ingle (00:27):
I was gonna say we can flip through the the news
cycle if you want, but I thinkmost of it's nfl.
Stoy Hall (00:31):
Yeah, it is.
So we'll just do a littlecollege first.
It's gonna be a long, longersession.
We got five guy.
There's actually like seventechnically ranks, right?
No, but I figured these are the,these would be the five.
Yeah.
And they're in order so.
Start off Clemson, Tennessee.
(00:52):
10 verse six minus five and ahalf to Clemson total of 63 and
a half.
How you, how you feeling aboutthat one?
I mean quarterbacks are gonna beinteresting.
Cole Ingle (01:06):
The thing, I don't know.
is everyone gonna play for bothof these teams?
For the most part, I haven'theard of anything big with
either one of these two teams.
Obviously Tennessee's backupquarterback will be playing.
Yes.
But we've seen flashes of verygood play.
Clemson's backup quarterbackwill also be playing.
Yeah, but we cuz he's better,they're actually better with
(01:27):
him.
Him, yeah.
And it would arguably be in theplayoff if he just would've been
playing all year.
So.
I'm going to lean towardsdefense because I think both
offenses are fairly level atthis point.
Yeah, I'd agree.
(01:48):
I would agree.
Tennessee I think has a littlemore explosiveness on offense,
but Clemson's defense I think isclearly better.
So I would lean towards Clemsonwinning the game.
Five and a half.
just doesn't speak to me in anyway.
So I'd probably take Clems inboth on the money line and the
(02:10):
spread of that without digging,do too deep into overall
statistics and stuff like that.
Tennessee's defense has given upa lot of points in several of
the bigger games against biggeropponents, but they've shown
flashes of being able to turnthe ball over as well.
(02:31):
If Clemson doesn't take care ofit, then you know, Tennessee can
put up points in a hurry.
Even with the backupquarterback, cuz that guy can
play.
So I'm gonna lean, lean towardsClemson on this one, but I
wouldn't be very high on myconfidence scale.
Stoy Hall (02:48):
No.
But overall things can be a goodgame.
There's a, there's NFL talent onthat field.
It's gonna be great to watch.
Yeah.
backup quarterbacks.
One is a true backup.
Obviously Hooker is a betterquarterback, but this guy's
still stud too.
Mm-hmm.
So let's not get crazy aboutthat.
Andy's had a
Cole Ingle (03:04):
lot of time with the team now.
What?
Just
Stoy Hall (03:07):
but talent on both sides.
Backup quarterbacks.
Quarterbacks are solid.
Yeah, I think it's a really fun,I think it'll be a really fun
game.
I, I, I, I love how we'rekicking that, kicking this week
off with that.
I'm not so heavy on Clemson.
I think Tennessee will cover I,I am gonna lean towards Clemson
(03:28):
though because of what you saidabout the defense, but mainly so
because Tennessee's quarterbackis good, but also he is a true
backup.
Like he does not have his bestexperience as the Clemson.
So, and Clemson's played in alot of big games.
Tennessee has been not as, Goodin big games.
Right.
(03:48):
So I'll go Clemson, Tennessee,and apparently we're back to
excellent connection.
63 and a half.
Yeah.
This bowl, season's.
Bowl seasons have trends.
This bowl, season's trends hasactually relatively been under
mm-hmm.
(04:11):
The thing is Tennessee can scoreso fast.
63 success.
That's a, you know, 34 30 caneasily get there.
Whew.
One's tough for me.
(04:33):
I'm gonna go with the trend onthis one though.
Gimme the under.
Cole Ingle (04:41):
There it is.
I'm taking the over more from anentertainment perspective.
Hope to see the best out of bothoffenses.
See if Clemson Contin cancontinue to trend in the right
direction with their offense asthey've switched quarterbacks.
And we know Tennessee's.
(05:02):
explosive will be I would sayarguably the most explosive team
that climbs and plays all year.
Stoy Hall (05:08):
So, yeah, absolutely.
Now, and let's, let's, let's notget it wrong here.
Bowl season's difficult becausethey've had a month to repair.
Mm-hmm.
like bowl season for probablythe first half is all coaching,
right?
By the way, second half is justcuz they have to make
adjustments.
Like this is a lot of
Cole Ingle (05:23):
coaching, but both of these teams are actually, in
my opinion, the offenses aregoing to benefit from the break
more.
99% of teams simply because theytechnically have new
quarterbacks Yeah.
That are going to now be fullyingrained or should be fully
(05:45):
ingrained in their systems intoone game plan, into a game plan
against one specific opponentthat you've had this long to
prepare for.
Right.
So, yeah, you're right.
And that's what makes it, that'swhat leads me.
It's gonna be a fun one.
Lean towards the over and Ithink it should be a fun game.
This is gonna be a real fun onebecause I've had no interest in
watching Clemson all year withthe, with no lyric
Stoy Hall (06:07):
quarterback in that DJ Yu
Cole Ingle (06:09):
Yu ukulele.
Yeah, that guy.
DJ U dj.
Transfer portal, hands
Stoy Hall (06:14):
for portal.
He'll be starting somewhere.
Nah, at clems, will he?
Yeah.
I mean that somewhere You're notgonna transfer to go sit.
Cole Ingle (06:22):
You heard anywhere That's picking him.
Stoy Hall (06:25):
There's a lot of places that would, well,
Cole Ingle (06:27):
I'm saying do you see Hartmans going Notre Dame.
Oh, really?
Wake Forest quarterback.
Really?
Yep.
Fun of new college news on theweek.
Stoy Hall (06:36):
Number 11.
K State verse number five.
Alabama minus six and a half.
Total.
55 and a half.
Cole Ingle (06:44):
Yeah.
Love a good underdog story.
Love a.
Absolutely.
I can't
Stoy Hall (06:52):
see it.
Bama is going to beat them andbeat them per T wealth.
Six
Cole Ingle (06:59):
and a half.
I mean, this is the old, youknow, Kansas State pulling out
all the stops.
Mm-hmm.
this.
Yeah.
I just, I feel like Alabama'sgot a chip on their shoulder
right now.
Yeah.
And Bryce Young.
Still trying to make animpression on
Stoy Hall (07:17):
scouts.
Bryce song's gonna throw for 400yards in four to six Tudies.
He's gonna have to show up.
Bama is going to want to runthis score up to a million.
Okay.
There's no way around thatsituation.
Yeah, I mean, I, so Bama Bamaover, like this has to happen
for them.
K State, I believe will they'lldo what they.
(07:37):
They'll come back late and whichis why the over, like, it's
going over 55 and a half, likethat's gonna happen.
Mainly because K State's gonnacome back.
Let's go look, we're two 50 lastweek, let's ride that train.
But yeah, no, no.
Bama is just an overall bettersquad.
Yeah.
Nothing to say about it.
They shouldn't be ranked five,but whatever they're just gonna
(08:00):
wipe the floor.
Cole Ingle (08:00):
Yeah.
I, I, I wish I could thinkdifferently.
I don't like the matchup.
What?
I don't like the matchup for
Stoy Hall (08:07):
Kansas State.
Ah, no.
No, poor, poor matchup.
Now, speaking of matchups,number nine, Penn State, verse
number seven, Utah.
Utah is minus two and a half.
52 and a half is the total.
Yeah.
What do you think about thismatchup?
Cole Ingle (08:23):
I don't know what to think about.
Penn State.
They played Michigan tough for ahalf.
Ohio State, tough for threequarters.
I remember correctly.
But they don't like, they justdon't do, they don't do anything
bad, but they don't do anythingelite.
Stoy Hall (08:43):
They, they have a solid defense offense
Cole Ingle (08:45):
there.
This is a big 10 up average froma stylistic standpoint of, of
how Utah plays strength is goingto be in the quarterback play,
and being able to lean ondefensive play makers.
Penn State's strength is gonnabe big 10.
Strength of defensive runninggame.
Try not to make mistakes.
(09:06):
Team that makes the least amountof mistakes gonna win the game.
Again, all coach speak verybasic items.
I think Utah has more explosiveplayers specifically on offense,
and so that's going to make melean towards.
Two and a half is the number.
And so I have them covering aswell, the two and a half.
Stoy Hall (09:30):
I can't argue it.
I utah's more explosive.
They, their offense is, to me,head, shoulders above Penn
State.
Yeah.
Defensively sure.
If, if we say they're even,they're even, but.
Right.
Penn State will not be able torun, they can't do a track meet.
Utah's used to it in the PAC 12.
Mm-hmm.
And I don't think that, it's nota dominant Penn State team.
(09:51):
It's not a dominant, it's not aIowa off defense in the Big 10.
Right.
We're not talking about thattype of Big 10 defense.
No.
It's above average.
Right.
But it's not that, and Utah'sable to, they're gonna be able
to just outplay maker stuff.
Yep.
Cole Ingle (10:08):
So you've got Utah covering the two and a half as.
Yeah.
And the numbers 52 and a half.
Again, and neither one of theseoffenses is overly explosive.
Penn State's not going to wantto play fast unless something
(10:29):
changes from, you know, the restof the regular season.
And Utah is not a team thatplays with a ton of tempo.
I mean, they can play.
They can mirror teams well, andso I just don't see this game
going over the 50.
There it
Stoy Hall (10:48):
is.
No, no, no, no.
I don't see Penn State scoringmore than 20, and that means.
Utah's gonna get to 33.
Mm-hmm.
ba.
Cole Ingle (10:58):
Yep.
That's all points.
All right.
Stoy Hall (11:02):
God, I'm gonna break a lot of rules with this one,
just cuz I Oh, we don't have, ohyeah, we do.
(11:29):
The chills, the excitementthrough the veins.
YouTube did not yell at us, sothat's cool.
Maybe we can play those.
Any who?
Here we go.
Cols Playoffs.
Cole Ingle (11:40):
I wish I was more excited for these games.
I know, but it's calledplayoffs.
That's, that's my hot take.
Stoy Hall (11:45):
I don't give a shit about your hot.
At excitement.
We have to, it's our job.
It's our job to put hype
Cole Ingle (11:51):
into these games.
It's my job to be realistic onthe number one and number two
teams, as we've talked about allyear, being head and shoulders
above everyone else in collegefootball.
I know, I know.
There.
How's that for excitement?
I
Stoy Hall (12:10):
know, I know, I know,
Cole Ingle (12:12):
I know, I know, I know.
Let's start with Michigan.
T.
Yeah,
Stoy Hall (12:16):
because it's the first game, so let's do that.
Cole Ingle (12:18):
That is a seven and a half point spread for
Michigan.
And they have been susceptibleto first half blunders and or
nohow.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
and then been one of thestrongest closing teams.
(12:42):
in college football, if not thestrongest closing team in
college football.
However, they are playing tcu,who is also the strongest
closing team in football, incollege football as far as
comebacks putting up points, Aquarterback that has the never
say die attitude.
(13:05):
They're kind of the, the cardiachorn frogs, I like that.
Stoy Hall (13:12):
Are, are you teeing up a backdoor cover or a
backdoor cover of the
Cole Ingle (13:15):
over under.
But here's the thing is that oneover is Michigan.
Is Michigan's strength moregoing to, to rise more than tcu?
and I have to say yes.
Stoy Hall (13:34):
And by their strength
Cole Ingle (13:35):
you mean the fact that they're run the close
games, run the football in thesecond half, and not only run
the football, but run thefootball for points.
Correct.
They're not just running thefootball and getting three first
round and then punting.
They're running the footballdown your throat, down your
throat, down your throat.
And then we're gonna scorescore.
Score.
And what's C, Ohio State Game.
C.
Penn State Game
Stoy Hall (13:56):
C.
And what's the problem with tcu?
U'S?
Just, I mean, the defense, likethe defense, I know that's
Cole Ingle (14:03):
it.
General.
Yeah.
They're big 12, just verysusceptible.
Stoy Hall (14:05):
Correct.
So I don't, I don't feel likethey're gonna be able to stop
Michigan.
No, not unless they come up withsomething.
Again, it's been a month, right.
Scheme wise, first couple
Cole Ingle (14:15):
drives.
And TCU is going to be able todo some things early, in my
opinion, because Michigan isgoing to be feeling them out,
trying to figure.
like Michigan does wear theirholes.
Where can we expose them?
Michigan's
Stoy Hall (14:31):
gonna come out and pound the rock to say, we are
better than you and we're gonnarun the ball.
Right.
If that fails, then they'llfigure it out.
Right?
If it doesn't long day for TCUU.
Yeah.
Long day in that first.
And it's the first two drives,first two drives, they're going
to, why wouldn't they?
I don't
Cole Ingle (14:47):
see TCU being able to run the ball against
Michigan.
No.
They do have some big receiversthat they can throw to
obviously.
they've got, you know, Duggancan run and, you know, he can
make plays.
But by the way, is it Duggan orDuggan?
Stoy Hall (15:00):
Both.
Okay, good.
Yeah.
Duggan needs to be in Dugganmode.
Yeah.
For a good three quarters.
I'll give him the first quarter,fill it out.
Good.
Three quarters.
He needs to be in that mode.
That's a long time.
Cole Ingle (15:16):
Yeah.
And it's not a, it's notsomething that he hasn't shown
all year that he's a fourquarter and like, not even in a
bad way, but like, The reasonwhy you're a good comeback team
is that your quarterback takeshimself to an elite level of
which you can't sustain for fourquarters.
And so like fourth quarter, latethird quarter into fourth
(15:36):
quarter, when they get down,Dugan's leadership, his Throw it
on my shoulders.
Yeah, all run.
All pass.
Yeah.
All good.
All fake.
I'll scramble.
I'll do whatever.
You can't do that against theelite level competition, which
Michigan will be the best teamthat they played all year.
And
Stoy Hall (15:52):
he'll have to do it for three quarters, not a
quarter and a half.
Right.
And it's gonna end up beingshort and he'll, so he'll have
his
Cole Ingle (15:57):
run.
I really like the first halfunder in this.
Do you?
I just, whatever that is.
Just makes sense.
Whatever the first for whatthese teams do.
Yeah.
But overall game total's 58 anda.
If you think that TCU will finda way to score against Michigan,
then it probably gets there.
(16:18):
If you think that Michigan candominate for four quarters, I
don't think it does.
So that's where I'm at.
As far as the overall thinkingof it, I don't think that, I
don't think Michigan can lose
Stoy Hall (16:30):
this game.
No.
They'll be in cruise controlmost of the game, in my opinion.
So, They won't lose.
Right.
If we're wrong about everythingelse, they're not gonna lose the
ball game.
Right?
Cole Ingle (16:42):
Can t c U be competitive enough enough as
they have been pressure for thewhole time all year?
To cover the seven and a half?
Stoy Hall (16:58):
No
Cole Ingle (16:59):
dam it.
I don't think so either.
Stoy Hall (17:04):
They're gonna be down, I mean, they're gonna be
down 17 going into the fourthand Michigan's gonna be in Yep.
Hand the football off and runclock.
Mm-hmm.
They might get a late one, but10.
I'll beat'em by 10 at like aminimum to me.
And that's a like a latebackdoor.
(17:25):
Michigan fumbled while trying torun the clock out type
Cole Ingle (17:27):
thing.
This game just, I look at it andI just see 34, 24 written all
over this game, which is 58.
Woo.
But I don't see getting anyhigher than
Stoy Hall (17:39):
that.
Michigan has to get to 40 forthis thing to go over.
Mm-hmm.
you don't think they do?
I, that's, that's no, I don'tthink it's, I don't even think
that's in their game plan.
Right.
The only way it does isturnovers Right.
Which we cannot account.
Which is, which is a scary,scary situation.
Go.
(18:00):
Ooh.
Cole Ingle (18:01):
We're in for well if you'd like the teams that we're
picking against you should be infor a really good week.
Stoy Hall (18:08):
Absolutely.
Cuz we haven't picked collegefootball in while either.
Yeah.
So that's good.
Ohio State, Georgia.
Minus six and a half, 62 and ahalf.
Everyone knows Georgia.
Georgia.
(18:30):
I don't know what the problemis.
I don't have a problem.
Like I know Georgia, I know whatwe're getting at at Georgia.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know what we're gettingfrom Ohio State.
They have not shown thecapability of big games and
doing what we think they shouldbe.
Yeah.
Howard six and a half isactually a absolute mind effort
(18:51):
to me.
Mm-hmm.
maybe Vegas knows something wedon't.
Right.
But I was thinking more like 12and a half.
Then I'm gonna play with, oh,hey, this is something to think
about.
Six and a half is not.
Cole Ingle (19:01):
Yeah.
We're both in Georgia here.
I think Money line and on thespread of six and a half.
The only questions, the numberat 62 and a half and what you
think Ohio State's offense canor can't do against.
A Georgia defense who's beensusceptible this year more so
than mm-hmm.
pretty year.
Yeah.
(19:21):
Yeah.
And an offense that's been alittle more up and down.
I mean, they have the weaponsobviously, but
Stoy Hall (19:27):
do they, have, they really shown to me, if you have
weapons, you're, you'reaveraging 30 point 35.
30, 40 point among college,sorry.
Averaging that they're not onpaper.
Cool.
But like no, they have not show.
I don't, I mean, I don'tdisagree.
That's where you get to this,back to this argument when we'll
(19:47):
get, I cannot wait until the offthis off season.
It's gonna be great.
Is
Cole Ingle (19:50):
George gonna score 40
Stoy Hall (19:51):
in this case?
That's my thing.
I I, I can't rule it out, but Idon't, I don't think they're
going to, turnovers will get'emover 40 without a doubt.
They're gonna, they're gonnascore in the thirties.
(20:11):
and that's the issue for me.
But they have to give theturnovers because I don't think
they're going to try to be thatex explosive cuz they don't need
to be.
Yeah.
Why do they need to be
Cole Ingle (20:22):
explosive?
This is like a 37 20 game.
Stoy Hall (20:29):
Yeah.
Now a random, you know, puntreturn or a pick six and we're
screwed.
I, I will hold my hand on myLord.
Just four straight.
Huh?
Just disgusting
Cole Ingle (20:45):
because it's gonna make me physically ill,
Stoy Hall (20:49):
but you start to follow the money.
We haven't played that one.
I, I just had to.
Yeah.
In this one, the squad.
So this comes down to we couldactually tie this whole thing.
That's the worst part.
And if we tie, we both take onebecause yeah, that's where we're
at.
Speaking of that, you haven'ttaken your gold schlager?
No, not yet.
Okay.
(21:09):
A lot of show left.
Damn.
We do
Cole Ingle (21:11):
have a lot of shit left.
So I mean, we're just tip of theiceberg here.
So hope the games are great.
Really do, I hope that we seethe best of TCU from a Max
Duggan perspective.
I hope that actually I don'treally care If we see the best
of Ohio State, they can go crawlunder a rock, in my opinion.
(21:32):
I mean, let's be
Stoy Hall (21:32):
real.
We want Georgia.
Michigan.
Yeah.
How would you not want Georgia?
Michigan?
Cole Ingle (21:38):
Right.
And I would like both of thoseteams to be somewhat dominant in
just showing that that's, that'sthe two teams that we deserve to
see the other games.
I just don't see much excitementcoming outta that Penn State.
Hopefully there is.
We've had a lot of excitinggames this year.
Hope Kansas State can giveAlabama all they want.
(21:59):
Again, just don't see thathappening.
And I think the most exciting,I'm really just hoping that
Clemson, Tennessee game can liveup to
Stoy Hall (22:07):
it right now is the one that is,
Cole Ingle (22:11):
that's the most intriguing, in my opinion.
Stoy Hall (22:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Aside from the, you know, thewhole playoff right thing.
That's kind of where we're at.
Do we do, we do best bets onjust.
Oh, I mean, or no?
Well, then it's.
College football's back.
It's back, baby.
And by back, I mean like, it'sbeen around for a long time, but
for us, and it's
Cole Ingle (00:08):
been, yeah, I mean, what we're talking about
meddling through bowl seasonbasically at this point, but
it's playoff
Stoy Hall (00:12):
week, week one week one on that.
So let's we jump.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think we havemuch too much on the news.
So, no, you want,
Cole Ingle (00:27):
I was gonna say we can flip through the the news
cycle if you want, but I thinkmost of it's nfl.
Stoy Hall (00:31):
Yeah, it is.
So we'll just do a littlecollege first.
It's gonna be a long, longersession.
We got five guy.
There's actually like seventechnically ranks, right?
No, but I figured these are the,these would be the five.
Yeah.
And they're in order so.
Start off Clemson, Tennessee.
(00:52):
10 verse six minus five and ahalf to Clemson total of 63 and
a half.
How you, how you feeling aboutthat one?
I mean quarterbacks are gonna beinteresting.
Cole Ingle (01:06):
The thing, I don't know.
is everyone gonna play for bothof these teams?
For the most part, I haven'theard of anything big with
either one of these two teams.
Obviously Tennessee's backupquarterback will be playing.
Yes.
But we've seen flashes of verygood play.
Clemson's backup quarterbackwill also be playing.
Yeah, but we cuz he's better,they're actually better with
(01:27):
him.
Him, yeah.
And it would arguably be in theplayoff if he just would've been
playing all year.
So.
I'm going to lean towardsdefense because I think both
offenses are fairly level atthis point.
Yeah, I'd agree.
(01:48):
I would agree.
Tennessee I think has a littlemore explosiveness on offense,
but Clemson's defense I think isclearly better.
So I would lean towards Clemsonwinning the game.
Five and a half.
just doesn't speak to me in anyway.
So I'd probably take Clems inboth on the money line and the
(02:10):
spread of that without digging,do too deep into overall
statistics and stuff like that.
Tennessee's defense has given upa lot of points in several of
the bigger games against biggeropponents, but they've shown
flashes of being able to turnthe ball over as well.
(02:31):
If Clemson doesn't take care ofit, then you know, Tennessee can
put up points in a hurry.
Even with the backupquarterback, cuz that guy can
play.
So I'm gonna lean, lean towardsClemson on this one, but I
wouldn't be very high on myconfidence scale.
Stoy Hall (02:48):
No.
But overall things can be a goodgame.
There's a, there's NFL talent onthat field.
It's gonna be great to watch.
Yeah.
backup quarterbacks.
One is a true backup.
Obviously Hooker is a betterquarterback, but this guy's
still stud too.
Mm-hmm.
So let's not get crazy aboutthat.
Andy's had a
Cole Ingle (03:04):
lot of time with the team now.
What?
Just
Stoy Hall (03:07):
but talent on both sides.
Backup quarterbacks.
Quarterbacks are solid.
Yeah, I think it's a really fun,I think it'll be a really fun
game.
I, I, I, I love how we'rekicking that, kicking this week
off with that.
I'm not so heavy on Clemson.
I think Tennessee will cover I,I am gonna lean towards Clemson
(03:28):
though because of what you saidabout the defense, but mainly so
because Tennessee's quarterbackis good, but also he is a true
backup.
Like he does not have his bestexperience as the Clemson.
So, and Clemson's played in alot of big games.
Tennessee has been not as, Goodin big games.
Right.
(03:48):
So I'll go Clemson, Tennessee,and apparently we're back to
excellent connection.
63 and a half.
Yeah.
This bowl, season's.
Bowl seasons have trends.
This bowl, season's trends hasactually relatively been under
mm-hmm.
(04:11):
The thing is Tennessee can scoreso fast.
63 success.
That's a, you know, 34 30 caneasily get there.
Whew.
One's tough for me.
(04:33):
I'm gonna go with the trend onthis one though.
Gimme the under.
Cole Ingle (04:41):
There it is.
I'm taking the over more from anentertainment perspective.
Hope to see the best out of bothoffenses.
See if Clemson Contin cancontinue to trend in the right
direction with their offense asthey've switched quarterbacks.
And we know Tennessee's.
(05:02):
explosive will be I would sayarguably the most explosive team
that climbs and plays all year.
Stoy Hall (05:08):
So, yeah, absolutely.
Now, and let's, let's, let's notget it wrong here.
Bowl season's difficult becausethey've had a month to repair.
Mm-hmm.
like bowl season for probablythe first half is all coaching,
right?
By the way, second half is justcuz they have to make
adjustments.
Like this is a lot of
Cole Ingle (05:23):
coaching, but both of these teams are actually, in
my opinion, the offenses aregoing to benefit from the break
more.
99% of teams simply because theytechnically have new
quarterbacks Yeah.
That are going to now be fullyingrained or should be fully
(05:45):
ingrained in their systems intoone game plan, into a game plan
against one specific opponentthat you've had this long to
prepare for.
Right.
So, yeah, you're right.
And that's what makes it, that'swhat leads me.
It's gonna be a fun one.
Lean towards the over and Ithink it should be a fun game.
This is gonna be a real fun onebecause I've had no interest in
watching Clemson all year withthe, with no lyric
Stoy Hall (06:07):
quarterback in that DJ Yu
Cole Ingle (06:09):
Yu ukulele.
Yeah, that guy.
DJ U dj.
Transfer portal, hands
Stoy Hall (06:14):
for portal.
He'll be starting somewhere.
Nah, at clems, will he?
Yeah.
I mean that somewhere You're notgonna transfer to go sit.
Cole Ingle (06:22):
You heard anywhere That's picking him.
Stoy Hall (06:25):
There's a lot of places that would, well,
Cole Ingle (06:27):
I'm saying do you see Hartmans going Notre Dame.
Oh, really?
Wake Forest quarterback.
Really?
Yep.
Fun of new college news on theweek.
Stoy Hall (06:36):
Number 11.
K State verse number five.
Alabama minus six and a half.
Total.
55 and a half.
Cole Ingle (06:44):
Yeah.
Love a good underdog story.
Love a.
Absolutely.
I can't
Stoy Hall (06:52):
see it.
Bama is going to beat them andbeat them per T wealth.
Six
Cole Ingle (06:59):
and a half.
I mean, this is the old, youknow, Kansas State pulling out
all the stops.
Mm-hmm.
this.
Yeah.
I just, I feel like Alabama'sgot a chip on their shoulder
right now.
Yeah.
And Bryce Young.
Still trying to make animpression on
Stoy Hall (07:17):
scouts.
Bryce song's gonna throw for 400yards in four to six Tudies.
He's gonna have to show up.
Bama is going to want to runthis score up to a million.
Okay.
There's no way around thatsituation.
Yeah, I mean, I, so Bama Bamaover, like this has to happen
for them.
K State, I believe will they'lldo what they.
(07:37):
They'll come back late and whichis why the over, like, it's
going over 55 and a half, likethat's gonna happen.
Mainly because K State's gonnacome back.
Let's go look, we're two 50 lastweek, let's ride that train.
But yeah, no, no.
Bama is just an overall bettersquad.
Yeah.
Nothing to say about it.
They shouldn't be ranked five,but whatever they're just gonna
(08:00):
wipe the floor.
Cole Ingle (08:00):
Yeah.
I, I, I wish I could thinkdifferently.
I don't like the matchup.
What?
I don't like the matchup for
Stoy Hall (08:07):
Kansas State.
Ah, no.
No, poor, poor matchup.
Now, speaking of matchups,number nine, Penn State, verse
number seven, Utah.
Utah is minus two and a half.
52 and a half is the total.
Yeah.
What do you think about thismatchup?
Cole Ingle (08:23):
I don't know what to think about.
Penn State.
They played Michigan tough for ahalf.
Ohio State, tough for threequarters.
I remember correctly.
But they don't like, they justdon't do, they don't do anything
bad, but they don't do anythingelite.
Stoy Hall (08:43):
They, they have a solid defense offense
Cole Ingle (08:45):
there.
This is a big 10 up average froma stylistic standpoint of, of
how Utah plays strength is goingto be in the quarterback play,
and being able to lean ondefensive play makers.
Penn State's strength is gonnabe big 10.
Strength of defensive runninggame.
Try not to make mistakes.
(09:06):
Team that makes the least amountof mistakes gonna win the game.
Again, all coach speak verybasic items.
I think Utah has more explosiveplayers specifically on offense,
and so that's going to make melean towards.
Two and a half is the number.
And so I have them covering aswell, the two and a half.
Stoy Hall (09:30):
I can't argue it.
I utah's more explosive.
They, their offense is, to me,head, shoulders above Penn
State.
Yeah.
Defensively sure.
If, if we say they're even,they're even, but.
Right.
Penn State will not be able torun, they can't do a track meet.
Utah's used to it in the PAC 12.
Mm-hmm.
And I don't think that, it's nota dominant Penn State team.
(09:51):
It's not a dominant, it's not aIowa off defense in the Big 10.
Right.
We're not talking about thattype of Big 10 defense.
No.
It's above average.
Right.
But it's not that, and Utah'sable to, they're gonna be able
to just outplay maker stuff.
Yep.
Cole Ingle (10:08):
So you've got Utah covering the two and a half as.
Yeah.
And the numbers 52 and a half.
Again, and neither one of theseoffenses is overly explosive.
Penn State's not going to wantto play fast unless something
(10:29):
changes from, you know, the restof the regular season.
And Utah is not a team thatplays with a ton of tempo.
I mean, they can play.
They can mirror teams well, andso I just don't see this game
going over the 50.
There it
Stoy Hall (10:48):
is.
No, no, no, no.
I don't see Penn State scoringmore than 20, and that means.
Utah's gonna get to 33.
Mm-hmm.
ba.
Cole Ingle (10:58):
Yep.
That's all points.
All right.
Stoy Hall (11:02):
God, I'm gonna break a lot of rules with this one,
just cuz I Oh, we don't have, ohyeah, we do.
(11:29):
The chills, the excitementthrough the veins.
YouTube did not yell at us, sothat's cool.
Maybe we can play those.
Any who?
Here we go.
Cols Playoffs.
Cole Ingle (11:40):
I wish I was more excited for these games.
I know, but it's calledplayoffs.
That's, that's my hot take.
Stoy Hall (11:45):
I don't give a shit about your hot.
At excitement.
We have to, it's our job.
It's our job to put hype
Cole Ingle (11:51):
into these games.
It's my job to be realistic onthe number one and number two
teams, as we've talked about allyear, being head and shoulders
above everyone else in collegefootball.
I know, I know.
There.
How's that for excitement?
I
Stoy Hall (12:10):
know, I know, I know,
Cole Ingle (12:12):
I know, I know, I know.
Let's start with Michigan.
T.
Yeah,
Stoy Hall (12:16):
because it's the first game, so let's do that.
Cole Ingle (12:18):
That is a seven and a half point spread for
Michigan.
And they have been susceptibleto first half blunders and or
nohow.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
and then been one of thestrongest closing teams.
(12:42):
in college football, if not thestrongest closing team in
college football.
However, they are playing tcu,who is also the strongest
closing team in football, incollege football as far as
comebacks putting up points, Aquarterback that has the never
say die attitude.
(13:05):
They're kind of the, the cardiachorn frogs, I like that.
Stoy Hall (13:12):
Are, are you teeing up a backdoor cover or a
backdoor cover of the
Cole Ingle (13:15):
over under.
But here's the thing is that oneover is Michigan.
Is Michigan's strength moregoing to, to rise more than tcu?
and I have to say yes.
Stoy Hall (13:34):
And by their strength
Cole Ingle (13:35):
you mean the fact that they're run the close
games, run the football in thesecond half, and not only run
the football, but run thefootball for points.
Correct.
They're not just running thefootball and getting three first
round and then punting.
They're running the footballdown your throat, down your
throat, down your throat.
And then we're gonna scorescore.
Score.
And what's C, Ohio State Game.
C.
Penn State Game
Stoy Hall (13:56):
C.
And what's the problem with tcu?
U'S?
Just, I mean, the defense, likethe defense, I know that's
Cole Ingle (14:03):
it.
General.
Yeah.
They're big 12, just verysusceptible.
Stoy Hall (14:05):
Correct.
So I don't, I don't feel likethey're gonna be able to stop
Michigan.
No, not unless they come up withsomething.
Again, it's been a month, right.
Scheme wise, first couple
Cole Ingle (14:15):
drives.
And TCU is going to be able todo some things early, in my
opinion, because Michigan isgoing to be feeling them out,
trying to figure.
like Michigan does wear theirholes.
Where can we expose them?
Michigan's
Stoy Hall (14:31):
gonna come out and pound the rock to say, we are
better than you and we're gonnarun the ball.
Right.
If that fails, then they'llfigure it out.
Right?
If it doesn't long day for TCUU.
Yeah.
Long day in that first.
And it's the first two drives,first two drives, they're going
to, why wouldn't they?
I don't
Cole Ingle (14:47):
see TCU being able to run the ball against
Michigan.
No.
They do have some big receiversthat they can throw to
obviously.
they've got, you know, Duggancan run and, you know, he can
make plays.
But by the way, is it Duggan orDuggan?
Stoy Hall (15:00):
Both.
Okay, good.
Yeah.
Duggan needs to be in Dugganmode.
Yeah.
For a good three quarters.
I'll give him the first quarter,fill it out.
Good.
Three quarters.
He needs to be in that mode.
That's a long time.
Cole Ingle (15:16):
Yeah.
And it's not a, it's notsomething that he hasn't shown
all year that he's a fourquarter and like, not even in a
bad way, but like, The reasonwhy you're a good comeback team
is that your quarterback takeshimself to an elite level of
which you can't sustain for fourquarters.
And so like fourth quarter, latethird quarter into fourth
(15:36):
quarter, when they get down,Dugan's leadership, his Throw it
on my shoulders.
Yeah, all run.
All pass.
Yeah.
All good.
All fake.
I'll scramble.
I'll do whatever.
You can't do that against theelite level competition, which
Michigan will be the best teamthat they played all year.
And
Stoy Hall (15:52):
he'll have to do it for three quarters, not a
quarter and a half.
Right.
And it's gonna end up beingshort and he'll, so he'll have
his
Cole Ingle (15:57):
run.
I really like the first halfunder in this.
Do you?
I just, whatever that is.
Just makes sense.
Whatever the first for whatthese teams do.
Yeah.
But overall game total's 58 anda.
If you think that TCU will finda way to score against Michigan,
then it probably gets there.
(16:18):
If you think that Michigan candominate for four quarters, I
don't think it does.
So that's where I'm at.
As far as the overall thinkingof it, I don't think that, I
don't think Michigan can lose
Stoy Hall (16:30):
this game.
No.
They'll be in cruise controlmost of the game, in my opinion.
So, They won't lose.
Right.
If we're wrong about everythingelse, they're not gonna lose the
ball game.
Right?
Cole Ingle (16:42):
Can t c U be competitive enough enough as
they have been pressure for thewhole time all year?
To cover the seven and a half?
Stoy Hall (16:58):
No
Cole Ingle (16:59):
dam it.
I don't think so either.
Stoy Hall (17:04):
They're gonna be down, I mean, they're gonna be
down 17 going into the fourthand Michigan's gonna be in Yep.
Hand the football off and runclock.
Mm-hmm.
They might get a late one, but10.
I'll beat'em by 10 at like aminimum to me.
And that's a like a latebackdoor.
(17:25):
Michigan fumbled while trying torun the clock out type
Cole Ingle (17:27):
thing.
This game just, I look at it andI just see 34, 24 written all
over this game, which is 58.
Woo.
But I don't see getting anyhigher than
Stoy Hall (17:39):
that.
Michigan has to get to 40 forthis thing to go over.
Mm-hmm.
you don't think they do?
I, that's, that's no, I don'tthink it's, I don't even think
that's in their game plan.
Right.
The only way it does isturnovers Right.
Which we cannot account.
Which is, which is a scary,scary situation.
Go.
(18:00):
Ooh.
Cole Ingle (18:01):
We're in for well if you'd like the teams that we're
picking against you should be infor a really good week.
Stoy Hall (18:08):
Absolutely.
Cuz we haven't picked collegefootball in while either.
Yeah.
So that's good.
Ohio State, Georgia.
Minus six and a half, 62 and ahalf.
Everyone knows Georgia.
Georgia.
(18:30):
I don't know what the problemis.
I don't have a problem.
Like I know Georgia, I know whatwe're getting at at Georgia.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know what we're gettingfrom Ohio State.
They have not shown thecapability of big games and
doing what we think they shouldbe.
Yeah.
Howard six and a half isactually a absolute mind effort
(18:51):
to me.
Mm-hmm.
maybe Vegas knows something wedon't.
Right.
But I was thinking more like 12and a half.
Then I'm gonna play with, oh,hey, this is something to think
about.
Six and a half is not.
Cole Ingle (19:01):
Yeah.
We're both in Georgia here.
I think Money line and on thespread of six and a half.
The only questions, the numberat 62 and a half and what you
think Ohio State's offense canor can't do against.
A Georgia defense who's beensusceptible this year more so
than mm-hmm.
pretty year.
Yeah.
(19:21):
Yeah.
And an offense that's been alittle more up and down.
I mean, they have the weaponsobviously, but
Stoy Hall (19:27):
do they, have, they really shown to me, if you have
weapons, you're, you'reaveraging 30 point 35.
30, 40 point among college,sorry.
Averaging that they're not onpaper.
Cool.
But like no, they have not show.
I don't, I mean, I don'tdisagree.
That's where you get to this,back to this argument when we'll
(19:47):
get, I cannot wait until the offthis off season.
It's gonna be great.
Is
Cole Ingle (19:50):
George gonna score 40
Stoy Hall (19:51):
in this case?
That's my thing.
I I, I can't rule it out, but Idon't, I don't think they're
going to, turnovers will get'emover 40 without a doubt.
They're gonna, they're gonnascore in the thirties.
(20:11):
and that's the issue for me.
But they have to give theturnovers because I don't think
they're going to try to be thatex explosive cuz they don't need
to be.
Yeah.
Why do they need to be
Cole Ingle (20:22):
explosive?
This is like a 37 20 game.
Stoy Hall (20:29):
Yeah.
Now a random, you know, puntreturn or a pick six and we're
screwed.
I, I will hold my hand on myLord.
Just four straight.
Huh?
Just disgusting
Cole Ingle (20:45):
because it's gonna make me physically ill,
Stoy Hall (20:49):
but you start to follow the money.
We haven't played that one.
I, I just had to.
Yeah.
In this one, the squad.
So this comes down to we couldactually tie this whole thing.
That's the worst part.
And if we tie, we both take onebecause yeah, that's where we're
at.
Speaking of that, you haven'ttaken your gold schlager?
No, not yet.
Okay.
(21:09):
A lot of show left.
Damn.
We do
Cole Ingle (21:11):
have a lot of shit left.
So I mean, we're just tip of theiceberg here.
So hope the games are great.
Really do, I hope that we seethe best of TCU from a Max
Duggan perspective.
I hope that actually I don'treally care If we see the best
of Ohio State, they can go crawlunder a rock, in my opinion.
(21:32):
I mean, let's be
Stoy Hall (21:32):
real.
We want Georgia.
Michigan.
Yeah.
How would you not want Georgia?
Michigan?
Cole Ingle (21:38):
Right.
And I would like both of thoseteams to be somewhat dominant in
just showing that that's, that'sthe two teams that we deserve to
see the other games.
I just don't see much excitementcoming outta that Penn State.
Hopefully there is.
We've had a lot of excitinggames this year.
Hope Kansas State can giveAlabama all they want.
(21:59):
Again, just don't see thathappening.
And I think the most exciting,I'm really just hoping that
Clemson, Tennessee game can liveup to
Stoy Hall (22:07):
it right now is the one that is,
Cole Ingle (22:11):
that's the most intriguing, in my opinion.
Stoy Hall (22:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Aside from the, you know, thewhole playoff right thing.
That's kind of where we're at.
Do we do, we do best bets onjust.
Oh, I mean, or no?
Well, then it's.
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