Damar Hamlin - Life Over a Game - NoBS GoonSquad Sports Show

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Stoy Hall (00:00):
We are tough day.

(00:02):
Real tough day, weird day.
Very, very, very weird and toughday.

Cole Ingle (00:08):
But, um, yeah, we'll, we'll dive into that.

Stoy Hall (00:11):
Yeah.
I mean, as, as the title of the,of the show of DeMar Hamlin, uh,
life Over a Game.
Um, I mean, I'll just go withlike, I was reading Titanic and
I look and you've texted me andyou were, you're reading

Cole Ingle (00:26):
Titanic.
Yeah.
Is that a lot?
Is that book

Stoy Hall (00:29):
As long as the movie?
It feels like it.
Okay.
And by the way, multiple books.
Okay.
Like, so when the boys get theirlibrary book mm-hmm.
it's always Titanic and it'salways like this.
All right.

Cole Ingle (00:40):
So you're just reading snippets just of to the
boys.
Oh yeah.
Gotcha.

Stoy Hall (00:43):
Anyways, sorry.
Um, so I'm doing that oncethat's over, all of a sudden I
get texts from you, from thegroup and I'm just like, what
the F happened?
Yeah.
Um, you saw it live?
Yeah, I saw it live.
We'll, let with my wife.
I'm gonna let you go throughthat live cuz I, I came into it
obviously late.

(01:03):
Yeah.
To that.
But, uh, why don't you, whydon't you talk about the live,
so,

Cole Ingle (01:06):
I mean, first quarter, um, both teams had, you
know, field goal, touchdown beenscored, uh, pass play across the
middle, uh, receiver turns upthe field, defensive back
tackles him, uh, stands up overthe top of him and then
literally looks like.

(01:28):
he got kd, like the, you know,the giant falling.
I mean, we've all seen thevideo.
Um, yeah, we're not gonna playit, we're not playing here.
But I immediately, you know, yougo into concussion, but I, I, I
watched the play mm-hmm.
and my, my personal immediatereaction was that it, that this

(01:50):
was worse than a concussion froma standpoint of like, he, he
fainted or he passed out.
Like it wasn't the, um, thefetal position reactions, right?
Mm-hmm.
that we saw, or even like thisweekend we saw, um, that, well,
when we may or may not show thevideo on that, um, the Colt's

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quarterback, uh, Folz.
Oh, yeah.
Kind of like seizing or whateverhe was doing on the field.
And like, you could tell thiswas a, this was worse than that,
um, from like a paralysisperspective of like, there was
no movement.
He's just not moving.
Yeah.
And so like, but he stood uplike we wa like I, my eyes said,
oh, he's, and this was normalfootball play.

(02:32):
And you know, as people havewatched and you can agree or
disagree whether to keep showingthe video, and it's more so,
like, there's nothing thatthat's in the video that's
really hard to see other thanit's because you know, what it
led to Yes.
Um, type of thing.
So it's, it's more outta respectfrom that perspective.
But my wife is watching andshe's like, oh, You know, you
know what happened?

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And I'm like, I, I don't know.
And so like we go back andrewatch it.
Um, they've gone to commercialthe first time at this point,
and I'm like, he had, he got hitin the chest unless as he fell
back, like he hit his head andyou couldn't really see it in
the first shot.
You're like, okay, maybe, maybethat was it.

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But like, or initial, like shockabsorption of the tackle.
Mm-hmm.
But I mean, guys runningsideways and then turns up the
field.
Like he doesn't have, you know,it's not like he's a top speed,
right?
There's no shoulder pad into theright.
You know, and it's nothingcrazy.
And then it's just like, wow.
Okay.
And as soon as they came backthe second time from commercial,

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uh, the two things.
One, obviously the ambulance ison the field at that point, but
two, like players reactions, um,fortunately or unfortunately,
uh, however you wanna look atit.
We've both been on the fieldwhen bad things have happened to
people.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and I don't, we both hadinjuries.
Um, I have personally beentaking off the field in an

(04:00):
ambulance before, um, doesn't,you know, obviously my situation
wasn't as dire, but at the time,I mean, I had shoulder pads cut
off of me, a helmet cut off ofme when I was in eighth grade.
Um, you know, they thought I wasbleeding outta my ears.
Thankfully I wasn't.
But I mean, I've, I've, so I'vebeen the person laying on the
ground knocked.
Um, concussed and ambulance offthe field.

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I've also been the player atpractice who has seen guys break
legs.
Uh, unfortunately, um, I've seenconcussions, so like, you know,
we've seen it, we've been inperson.
So like, you know, the feelingwhere the color drains from your
face, your heart sinkscompletely and there's no way to
hide that emotion.
And specifically Josh Allen, Ithink as much as anyone, and

(04:45):
obviously he's a superstar, sowhere focus was, you knew
something was worse thanconcussion, broken leg, ecl,
whatever it was.
Now, obviously we saw that too,right?
That he fainted, but like, sonow, you know where I'm like,
that's when the text went out,was like, I'm, I think this guy

(05:08):
is, is dying or dead on thefield.
And, and he and I, technicallyhe was, he was, um, you know,
obviously like trying not to concause a panic with the text that
I'm sending.
But, you know, I had a couplepeople that I sent it to and was
just like, you know, you weren'twatching at the time.
So I didn't get it.
And I got a maybe a five minutereaction from my other buddy

(05:31):
that I had texted, and I wasjust like, okay, so like, I'm
just kind of having back andshe's like, well, how does
something that happen, my wife?
And I'm like, I mean, I don't, Idon't know.
Right.
And like on the, you know, whereyou're not getting anything from
the television.
No, not at the point.
Right.
Um, other.
Information that, you know,whether you agree or disagree
with how it was handled or ifthey should keep going back to

(05:54):
the shot or if they should keepgoing back to the studio.
Like all of that stuff ishonestly like, does it really
matter?
No.
These, that's what these peopleare paid for.
And unfortunately they were putin a position that they probably
weren't prepared for.
And I think overall thesituation was probably handled
about as good as it could havebeen.
From,

Stoy Hall (06:13):
from the television standpoint?
Yes.
Not by the nfl.
We'll, we'll definitely hit on

Cole Ingle (06:17):
podcast, which, uh, you know, a lot of it's gonna
be, he said, she said, uh, howit's handled by the nfl.
The NFL just needs to have abetter protocol, uh, in place.
Um, the thing that's tough withthat is the NFL see's
concussions every week.
Um, this looked and felt a lotlike a concussion as soon as it
became more than that.

(06:38):
Um, you know, whether it be aparalysis, a death or anything
like that, um, it's hard to seethat, an impossible to see that
and play at any type of level orfocus at any type of level where
you're not putting yourself andeveryone else on that field in

(06:58):
danger by

Stoy Hall (06:59):
going back out there, or a hundred percent been more
injuries.
There's been no way around it.
Mm-hmm.

Cole Ingle (07:04):
And, I mean, and even if there wasn't, it wasn't,
it's not fair.
No.
Uh, it's not fair to.
a anybody DeMar.
Right.
And it's not fair to any of theplayers, not fair to any
coaches, any of the fans.
And you feel terrible first, youknow, first and foremost for

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DeMar for his family, whothey're trying to, they're
trying to get his mom out of thecrowd to get to the ambulance.
I feel a certain way about thatand that I hope that he was
stable enough that those secondsdidn't matter because his mom,
we could have got his mom to thehospital a different way.
Now.
That's right.

(07:46):
Personal.
Like I, I, I read it as I

Stoy Hall (07:49):
know, like I read it, it was a good thing.

Cole Ingle (07:52):
The gesture was fine.

Stoy Hall (07:53):
Well, I, I read it as he was stable, therefore she,
they could wait.
I'm, I'm really hoping that I,and I, I just, I'm not gonna be,
I don't know respect on that,but like, I'm assume he was good
to go.
Yeah.
Relatively speaking.
Um, so his mom could join.

Cole Ingle (08:08):
Right.
And that's what I hope for.
And like from that perspective,I'm glad that they searched her
out.
Yeah.
Find her.
Because like they showed, youknow, video, pre-game.
I mean, he's obviously veryclose with his family.
Family was down on the field, soall of that.
And there's nothing worse thannot knowing it.
I mean, specifically as a familymember.
I mean, we all want to know, butI mean, honestly we don't know

(08:30):
the guy, so.
Right.
Our day-to-day is not gonna beaffected.
Yeah.
Like, you know, his familyfamily's this, so like, that was
good to see.
That thought process came aboutand that they were able to get
her there, uh, so she could bewith her son.
So, um, but yeah, that was like,that was the initial reaction to
everything, you know?
And then at that point, I thinkabout two or three more

(08:54):
commercials in, um, I had seenwhat I, I I had heard enough,
right.
Um, actually probably beforethat.
But, uh, finally just we turnedaway and watched the show.
Um, I think my wife was a littlebit more intrigued, at least
initially, with like, what wasgonna happen with the game and
stuff like that.
And honestly I was like, if theydo play the game, I don't wanna

(09:16):
watch.
Um, and, uh, it didn't do me anygood to hear from other players.
And because, like I, I know thatI've been there mm-hmm.
and so they weren't offering meon a personal level any more
insight to the feeling or thesincerity I should feel, or how

(09:37):
they shouldn't be playing thegame.
Um, you know, and there's a lotof talk on Twitter, uh, and
stuff like that.
Um, I specifically was checkingback there more so just to see
if there were any updates onhim, which, you know, slowly
stuff leaked in, um, through thenight.
But I mean, besides that, all ofthe back and forth about
different people's takes andeverything like that, honestly I

(09:58):
could really care less.
Um, journalistic timing isreally everyth.
Um, so the stuff that wascriticized was criticized
because of when it came out, notnearly what came out in my
opinion.
And then, you know, everybody'sgot their opinion on, on how
they feel about certain things,um, on that.

(10:19):
And that's why social media,ultimately the great thing that
came out of it was over, youknow, getting close now to$5
million raised, uh, to yeah.
Uh, DeMar Hamlin's charity, uh,which goes for gifts, uh, to
kids in very toughneighborhoods.

Stoy Hall (10:34):
So, yeah.
So they, and they're, who's onthat?
And they're expanding more onthat.
His, um, probably one of hisbest friends, but his marking
guy who he, uh, I watched hisinterview on Pat McAfee's, show
2 30, 12 30, something likethat, came out and said, I don't
have, Hey, I don't have anyupdates.
What you have is what you have.
Right.
The family, that's a family upto the family to do that.

(10:54):
That's not my job.
But my job was, I needed to findthe password to that GoFundMe
because that GoFundMe was from2020 and he's like, I was afraid
at that 0.3 and a half milliondollars, we wouldn't have access
to him.
Right.
He has access to it now.
They've updated the description.
Yes.
It was originally for toys.
Right.
Um, now it's going to expand tocamps.

(11:16):
Right.
And just really all of thethings that he DeMar wanted to
do, just didn't have theresources we do at the, realized
that camps and all those arecoming

Cole Ingle (11:24):
into play, this GoFundMe was originally set up
with a$2,500 goal.
Yeah.
Like you said, back in 2020, ithadn't reached its goal.
So this thing had not taken offat all in any Nope.
I mean, especially for a guythat, you know, even as a young
guy, I mean, he's still makingprobably a couple million
dollars.
Uh, I don't know how much he'smaking either.
Right.
But like, definitely a guy thatwould have enough to, he's

(11:47):
funded, he funded the GoFundMeon his own, let's put it that
way.
Yeah.
Um, so, and just didn't take thepage down, just left it.
And he was still doing it.
Like we, we've seen, um, in allthe reports and stuff like that,
uh, a guy that's very involvedwith his community.
Right.
Uh, and has continued to be, sothis GoFundMe was a, um, you
know, something he started whenhe got drafted and take off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It just, it never did.

(12:07):
And now it got, and now it'srebooted.

Stoy Hall (12:09):
So it's probably well over five, I would assume.
We haven't checked it.
It will be in our description.
Um, for, for this.
We've posted it.
We'll continuously do that.
No.
To support him in what he wantsto do.
Right.
Regardless of what his outcomeis, football-wise.
Mm-hmm.
Um, now I've spoken to a coupledoctors.
Sean Slavin, a surgeon.
Mm-hmm.
he's the one who alluded ourgroup to what the, uh, what what

(12:33):
it was.
And here I, I'm gonna look it upcuz I can't, I'm not a doctor,
so I'm not going to be able tosay this word very well.
Um, but, uh, com Commotio

Cole Ingle (12:47):
cordes Kimmo cordes kad cho.
That's what they're, I mean, Isaw that listed.
I mean, it's all relative to.
you know, you don't know if hehas anything preexisting.
You don't know.
I mean, you just don't knowanybody.
So Right.
As far as the kamo cordes that,um, you referred to is basically

(13:11):
when you have a hard hit to thechest is where basically where
your heart boom, like beats offyour ribcage, right.
For lack of a better term.
Um, or, or your spine, um,because of a hit.
And, uh, there was a hockeyplayer, and I'm just saw this at
some point.
Yeah, I did it too 25 years agothat, um, had a puck hit him in

(13:34):
the chest.
Um, I think they showed like a,you know, a guy's getting hit
with a baseball or anything likethat is what happens with, um,
they, they, this can happen too.
Um, so that's, you know, justbased on what people are seeing,
kind of what people are thinkinghappened, um, you know, tough to
know.
And ultimately, like I say, I,we're not doctors.

(13:56):
They're not And doesn'tultimately, it doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
No.
Like, you know, ultimately theguy almost died on the

Stoy Hall (14:03):
field.
He almost died.
And clearly it's a, it's a, afreak accident is a very rare
occurrence.
Right.
Clearly.
Or else there would be Right.
A lot more happening.
This is the first time in, Iguess modern day football.
We can say in the NFL that it'shappened now, it's happened in
high school level.
It's usually in younger maleathletes.
That this type of thing occurs.

(14:25):
Yeah.
Um, so really it doesn't matterwhat it is or how it's the fact
that it happened, uh, he hadnine minutes of cpr, which is
crazy.
Long ass time.
Um, he was probably whateveryone's saying in the second
safest place for this to happen.
Yeah.
Besides the hospital.
Besides the hospital, because ofall the doctors and all, all of

(14:45):
the things

Cole Ingle (14:46):
that they have have, basically they had to, I mean,
cuz they had to shock him.
Yeah.
Um, and so yeah, ultimately froma response time standpoint,
could not have, there's oneother place besides li being, I
mean literally laying in thehospital, um, that you would get
that to, that you would get thatresponse time, right?
Correct.
Um, and that's the biggest thingin those moments, whether tart

(15:06):
attack, stroke, anything likethose is time response Time.
Response time.
Um, and that's kind of why Ibrought that up with the whole
mom down to the ambulance thing,is that you hope that
everything, I mean, yeah.
Again, who knows, we're not, canonly assume and if you're
waiting for a relative right.
At that point, there's somestability and having a loved one
there is definitely the greatestthing you can have.

(15:27):
Correct.
If you're stable.
Correct.
If you, obviously stable is a incritical condition.
Um, but if they had him, youknow, in a position where
everything was good to get hismom in there was, was great.

Stoy Hall (15:38):
So, and let's you know, the, the importance of
Yeah.
Like you said, family, um, timespeed.
recovery and everything gettingthere.
Um, I, I want to hit upon like,as the team and, um, you know,
the speculation of NFL delayingthe game, not delaying the game,

(15:59):
saying you got five minutes toget ready.
Mm-hmm.
both teams saying F off, um,those types of things.
Um, the, the emotionalstandpoint, when you look at
Josh Allen, um, is in, in Digscrying and all of that.
Mm-hmm.
the, the one that we, we, and Iwanna make sure everyone knows
and it hits upon and supports asmuch as everyone else, probably

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a step below tomorrow, but damn,the closest to it is t Higgins.
Um, to be the player that causedquote, quote caused like, I
don't know, he was the one whohit him in the chest.
We'll put it that way.
Right.
Um, to be that player.
Um, no one could imagine whatthat feels like.
It's gotta be closest to killingsomeone without accidentally

(16:46):
killing someone.
Like that would be the only one.
How you guys can relate to that.
I can't relate to that.
Right.
Um, but I know he broke downand, and has tried, you know,
showed up to the hospital.
I couldn't imagine being the oneto put someone else in that
situation.

Cole Ingle (17:05):
Yeah.
See, and I struggle with this,and here's the reason I struggle
with it, because I, I watchKevon Tido.
Knock a quarterback intoconvulsions, do a snow angel on
the field, and then do the, putyou to sleep signal on the

(17:25):
sideline this weekend.
Um, so t Higgins is, that's acomplete accident.
I mean, he's getting tackled.
Correct.
He's not going after anyone.
And like I understand from thatperspective that he's going to
feel bad, but I don't, I justdon't know, you know, unless
you're t Higgins and you're notgoing to know.

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But I don't know that that Iwould feel, um, in, I mean,
remorse or like each individualis going to have a different
reaction to that.
Yeah.
The I and I think people havereached out and everything that
I saw was, you know, absolutelynot your fault, da da da da da.
Correct.
But we don't do that.

(18:08):
My overall issue is like, wedon't do that to the guy who
knocked the guy out.
Like who hit, who hit Tua andconcussed him.
Right.
We have no idea.
Right.
Did that guy feel any remorse orwas he doing his job?
Good point.
You know, and again, this isdifferent because it come to a
heart attack.
We had a guy on the field wethought, I thought was dead.

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Was dead.
Yes.
And technically, technicallywas.
Was dead.
Was dead and was brought back.
Um, so, you know, a life wassaved on the field.
Um, you know, you go back to.
um, Ryan Shazi, um, when he gotparalyzed on the field and who
he hit, you know, and a lot ofpeople would be like, well, he
led with his head so it was hisown fault.

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Or, you know, and it's like, no,no, no.
Like we're playing footballhere.
Mm-hmm.
and like, nothing is anybody'sfault.
Like everybody knows what theysigned f up for.
And every NFL guy to a man,every college football player,
to a man, every high schoolfootball player, to a degree, to
a degree, But I mean, once youget to a high school level,
you've been there enoughfootball, you know, your parents

(19:09):
know, everyone knows, right.
Um, you know what you're signingup for.
Mm-hmm.
and the guys that are, aremaking the most money, um,
really know which are these NFLlevel guys who know it's an
entertainment and a game in a,in a game and life over a game.
Again, last night we got itright.
But like, at what point do westart, you know, does the blame

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thing and that those types offeelings start to be more, you
know, is the light gonna shine,like, shine on that more when
it's not necessarily life ordeath on the field?
Like, when is the NFL actuallygoing to start caring about
player safety?
And can you, like, ca can youhave this game mm-hmm.

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and have player safety or is itjust an oxymoron

Stoy Hall (20:00):
to ah, that's tough.
Uh, I think to a, to a degreeyou can.
have'em both.
Mm-hmm.
overall, it's an oxymoron.
It's like war like, and I'm notgonna put us

Cole Ingle (20:11):
the gladiator thing is the thing that I've heard the
most.
Yeah.
Uh, just because the war thingis a, I mean, I understand what
they're trying to, but, um, youknow, it's, that's our
entertainment.
That's a hundred thousand peopleon the stands.
Yes.
Gladiator.
We got two teams on the field.
Like, it's what it is.
Yeah.
At the, the end of the day,like, people are expecting
people to hit people hard.

(20:31):
Mm-hmm.
Um, if somebody gets hurt, it'sreally not.
I mean, people go to hockeygames to see people fight and
love fights.
Everybody's, I'm one of them,right?
I mean, guilty.
Yes.
Like, you know, who doesn't liketo see a big hit?
Doesn't like to see the hockeyass fight.
You know, everybody wants a bigplay.
The, there's repercussions forthat.
And like, I think last night,maybe for three hours, five

(20:56):
hours, whatever, up until thenext game's played, shows a
little bit of light to that.
They're like, Hey, it is a game.
People can die.
You know, it's more than peoplegetting hurt.
They can't, you know, and theconcussion thing has led to a
lot of conversations.
And when it's not a concussion,I feel like people forgot how to

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react.
Um, just because the concussion,it's concussion.
Concussion.
You know?
Did you know we've got theroughing, the passer thing where
we're laying guys down.
We've got, you know, but then westill have all of these guys
getting concussions anyway, youknow, and it's just like, Okay.
Obviously that isn't helping.
Correct.
Or is it, you know, or would itbe way worse?

(21:38):
No way to know.
No way to know.
Um, but that's the ultimatediscussion is that, you know,
when these guys enter the arena,their entertainment, their what
their profession is, whatthey're getting paid for,
they're putting themselves,their lives, their bodies on the

(21:58):
line.
Absolutely.

Stoy Hall (21:59):
Um, both now and in the future, right?
Like we're, we know this,

Cole Ingle (22:03):
like when you go to work, you don't expect to get
hit in the head, break a leg.
Correct.
Have someone hit you hard enoughthat it can cause some type of
heart issue.
Um, but when they do, like, whenthey go to work, it, it's a
hazard of the job.

(22:25):
Yeah.
Um, there is a reason they getpaid millions to hundreds of
millions of dollars.
Um, if I, if that is my hazardpay, then so be it.
Right.
But so be it.
You also have to be sensitivewithin that to understand that
these are still human beings.
Correct.
And that when that line, when weget to that line that we

(22:49):
understand, and that's why Isaid earlier I mentioned
journalistic timing on a lot ofthe reactions.
And it's like all, all thingscan be discussed, um, in a
correct way, in an incorrect.
And everybody has a differentview on it.
However, last night at the timethat that guy's laying on the
field is not the time to discussanything.
But whether that guy, whether ornot that life is gonna be

(23:12):
preserved.
Yes.
And so I have as big a troublewith the people who are
responding to the people theydidn't like, just because at
that point you've lost focus onwhat's important as well.
And so just, just the wholesnowballing of, you know, social
media and everything like thatis just, is is err in the first
place.
Yeah.
Just because as soon as oneperson gets it off track, now,

(23:33):
now everyone who is respondingto that person is also off
track.
Off track.
And like, you're not any betterthan that guy now, in my
opinion.
And so, like that's where myissues lie with all of those
things.
Yeah.
Knowing that we're gonna go intotoday, we're gonna discuss it,
it's gonna be the number onetopic in all of news.
Radio, sports, radio, podcasts,you name it.
It's gonna be what's talkedabout.

(23:55):
You've got people not doingspecific items today that they
would as far as content goes.
Um, basically, and em, or notremembrance in condolences for
Right.
Right.
Um, you know, all of thesethings that are going on, but at
some point, Thursday's gonnahit, I don't know, Saturday

(24:16):
Saturday's gonna hit.
Uh, and we're gonna have anotherfootball game and it'll be
Wednesday's all the to for thoseguys and they're gonna go back
to practice.
Right.
And yes, that's gonna be thoughtabout, but I, I saw a tweet that
was, uh, I believe it was RyanClark.
Um, he was the ne the next stepor the next snap on the football

(24:36):
field is going to be thescariest one.
And like, I don't know, I didn'tknow how I felt about, like, I
understand what he's saying asfar as there's going to be a
huge exhale when that is done.
Uh, just because of the lastone.

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You know, it wasn't necessarilyanything, you know, it wasn't
anything people don't do on arugby field with no pads and no
helmets.
Yeah.
You know, he, he hugged a guy,tackled him, and this is what we
were left with.
Literally a timing issue.
That's what, but like, it goesback to my football thought.
Is that like, no, these guys,like, when you go back out
there, first of all know thatyou're going back onto a
football field and if you're notready to do that, don't then

(25:20):
don't.
And are most of the guys gonnabe ready?
I think, I think they are, butif you're not, then don't.
Yeah.
And don't, don't feel likeyou're gonna get judged for it.
Don't like, whatever it is.
Like, if you are in thatmindset, then don't go on the
football field Is, is what myreaction was to the, to the

(25:44):
tweet that I saw.
And I just, I don't know how Ifelt about that.

Stoy Hall (25:49):
Like he's, he's right and wrong at the same time.
He is right for literallyeveryone watching.
Right.
W cuz we don't, I, I'm not gonnapractice on Wednesday.
Wednesday for those guys thatfirst hit, and then some of

Cole Ingle (26:01):
them hit very much in practice, it's just gonna

Stoy Hall (26:04):
be, it's not even gonna be a hit.
No, but it's just stepping backon a field is going to be
awkward at first.
Right.
Um, mainly for the bills in theBengals.
I think the other teams they'llhave, they'll be a, it'll be
weird at first.
They're gonna say somethingabout guaranteeing team
meetings.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but those two teams, forsure, that first practice back
is gonna be, it, it gonna take afew, it's gonna take a few

(26:26):
minutes to get into it.
Right.
Once they get into it, they'refine.
They'll be locked in fromWednesday, half of Wednesday, or
whatever you wanna call it, onby kickoff.
Saturday, not one player on thefield.
It will not register.
And if it does, they're notplaying, but it won't register,
then it is game time locked in.
We know what we're doing forfans for, and that's, it's

Cole Ingle (26:47):
gotta be that way.
Has to be like, let's, let's bevery clear about that.
If it's not, like you said theyneed, they need to remove
themselves.

Stoy Hall (26:53):
And I think coaches will be very cognizant of it.
Right.
Because that No, that's aterrible situation.
Mm-hmm.
um, from Ryan Clark Clark'stweet for fans.
I do agree.
They're not gonna see a hituntil the first game.
Mm-hmm.
they're all gonna go, all right.
Yeah.
Right.
And guess what?
There might be someone get hurton that first play and we might
not even see it.

(27:14):
Right.
And that's okay.
And once that's over, we'll beback to relative normal.
Um, so I think that's, you gottalook at it as a player.
One way, you gotta look at it asa fan.
The other, the fans will dothat.
Players, um, Wednesday.
Wednesday it'll be their time tolock in.
We, we as players have alwaysdone that.
Our wasn't Wednesday, itwould've been nice.

(27:36):
Right.
It was Tuesday for us.
Right.
Tuesday locked in, good to go.
Whatever happened, whoever'shurt.
Mm-hmm.
you gotta get back on the fieldand do your job.
Right.
And that's what will happenWednesday.
And we'll, and we'll, we'll moveforward.
Mm-hmm.
uh, which is great.
We do need to move forward.
Uh, we're all here for tomorrow.
Um, you know, when he comesback, all the support if he

(27:59):
retires, doesn't matter.
Right.
Uh, the support is there for allplayers, current players, young
players, older players, uh,former players, fans.
Just recognize the momentmm-hmm.
and recognize how important justlife is.

(28:19):
Yeah.
Just how fragile

Cole Ingle (28:20):
it is.
It's very fragile.
I mean, that's ultimately whatit comes down to.
I mean, for me, like, likethat's a big thing that I took
out of it.
Yeah.
Was just the fragility of life.
Um, and just seeing it on anational stage where millions,
millions, hundreds of millions,maybe at this point Right.
On hundreds of millions ofpeople have seen that come a

Stoy Hall (28:40):
playoffs.
Oh yeah.

Cole Ingle (28:41):
By now.
Absolutely.
Of social media.
Hundreds of millions of peoplewatched someone die on a
football field and getresuscitated in some way.
Correct.
Um, because we know that theyhad to resuscitate.
That is what happened.
Like that, that's just a fact.
And you don't see that everyday.
If you or I or someone we knowat our workplace died of a heart

(29:02):
attack, sorry.
It's just not the same effect.
Like this just gives you areality TV look at the fragility
of life.
And I think that that goes along way and it, and it sticks
with people.
It does.
Um, so the positives you can getout of that are, hey, do take a

(29:23):
chance to take a deep breath,look around, appreciate what you
have in front of you.
Do take a look at how thecharity of millions of people
has been able to.
So, so take the positives fromit.
We know what the possibleimpacts of football are, and if
you hate football and wouldnever let your kid play

(29:43):
football, this is not gonnachange that.
Um, and from the other side, ifyou saw what happened, it wasn't
something that would've beenoutta the ordinary that we
haven't seen specifically usthousands of times, uh, on a
football field.
And for whatever reason, thistime he didn't get to stand up.
And hopefully he does this week,you know, whenever it is,

(30:05):
whenever it is.
Um, you know, and that, that'sultimately all we can hope for.
So that, I mean, that's justkind of a, a long winded view
though of, of what's happenedover the last, uh, basically 22
hours, right?

Stoy Hall (30:19):
Absolutely.
Um, Could not have said itbetter.
Um, everyone, we went throughsomething together.
Mm-hmm.
ultimately the world at thispoint.
I don't know how many peoplereached.
Yeah.
But every one of those wentthrough an event with trauma all
together.
Mm-hmm.
um, we just physically didn'tget hurt, but his mom saw the
same thing we did.

(30:40):
Everyone did this together.
Yep.
And the thing is, you gottarecognize that, um, look around,
realize those that are closestto you and really move forward
with good support, both for, uh,DeMar, his family, and all those
others that are in need.
Mm-hmm.
uh, this is a time to, toreflect on that and

Cole Ingle (31:00):
it's beginning of the year.
Yes.
Um, which I think there's a lotof reflection anyway, just in
general.
Yeah.
Um, as a population, uh, newYear's resolution's obviously a
big thing.
Uh, holidays, everything likethat, people are having their
own impact from all of thoseitems coming together.
And then this is your firstMonday night football game after
all that Christmas, you know,Thanksgiving, Christmas, new

(31:21):
Year.
So like two months ofreflection, basically new start,
da da da da da, bam.
And so then you hit this withall of those emotions already
running a little bit high and inthe biggest NFL game of the
year, um, up to this point, justas far as what was on the line
mm-hmm.
and stuff like that.
And boom.
And so in a lot of ways, like,it's just a, it's a realization.

(31:47):
It's.
An aha moment for a lot ofpeople.
I think they can be, you know,let's take this and build off of
it, um, in any way that we can.

Stoy Hall (31:57):
Absolutely.
And in that we'll move forwardto college football.
That is our NFL recap.
It's the only thing thatmattered, uh, specifically in
the nfl.
Uh, college football's a littledifferent.
Um, so we're gonna get to that.
Uh, now, although my sheet's allmessed up, so we're gonna have
to, uh,

Cole Ingle (32:17):
please forgive Stoy for deleting all of our picks
from the last three weeks.
Yeah, he didn't mean it.
Um, it wasn't because he, Imean, we, uh, we both sucked at
college football, let's behonest.
But your NFL picks were good.
Good-ish.
They were, they were

Stoy Hall (32:34):
Okay-ish.
I, I, I got an upset.
The best bets were good.
Best bets

Cole Ingle (32:37):
were great.
You hit the 9 99.
Best bet.
Yep.
Um, so we won't do too much ofa, uh, I do, I lost the NFL
picks.
Um, so I will have a shitty shotfor that.
So I've got that on deck here.
Um, college football.
You want to lead us into theplayoffs here?

(33:01):
I

Stoy Hall (33:01):
don't.
Okay.
We, we, we, we, we started offwith,

Cole Ingle (33:10):
our picks were bad, but the games were great.

Stoy Hall (33:12):
Um, we, we started off with thinking that, um, I,
I'm gonna.
let me go back.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
games that we had FirstTennessee, Clemson.
Yep.
Okay.
Uh, I remember us sitting heregoing, this is probably gonna be
the best game of the week.
Um, we really like Tennessee'sdefense, all of those things.

(33:33):
Well, we, we were completelywrong.
Yeah.
Cuz I mean, uh, Tennessee, theycould score quick and they
scored well.
Uh, their quarterback out shinedClemson's and Clemson's defense.
Yeah.
Didn't, didn't show up.
So, so that's how we started.
Yeah.
Then we roll into, and we hadBama case State, which we

(33:53):
absolutely nailed, although CaseState came out hotter than I
anticipated, but Right.
Bama was not gonna have any ofthat.
Mm-hmm.
So now I'm thinking, okay.
Hey, one for one.
Right.
Roll into the weekend feelingAll right.
Watch the Iowa team.
That was fun for a little bit asa teaser going into this TCU
mission gang game.
Yeah.
Okay.

(34:14):
So we had said the semi-finalsgames, we, we believe are going
to be boring in blowouts.
We really hope it's not.
Yeah.
Well, we were, we got what wereally hoped for.
Yeah.
Um, this Michigan TCU game, Imean, T C U could not have
played a better game in myopinion.

(34:35):
Oh.

Cole Ingle (34:35):
I mean, they turned the ball over

Stoy Hall (34:36):
three times.
Well, I mean, you're, yes.
Turnovers, but like, no gameplaying wise, game gameplay.
They, physicality

Cole Ingle (34:43):
wise, they took'em out.
They, they were not.

Stoy Hall (34:45):
Outmanned, they were definitely not outmanned.
Now, to me, the game, this waswhere I did not agree with how
Michigan started to go for it.
One, I don't know why you justweren't trying to run down their
throat.
Mm-hmm.
down on the goal line, forgetthat.
But to go for it there in a biggame like this mm-hmm.
with a, with a underdog if youwill.

(35:06):
Mm-hmm.
they stop you, you flip momentumfor them.
Mm-hmm.
So I think a field goal shouldhave been kicked there.
Thanks.
Well, the bigger little change,but this game really for me came
down to Michigan's, uh, justMichigan's stupidity, uh, from
turnovers play calling scheme.

(35:26):
Mm-hmm.
it just was not good, top tobottom.
And they still could have wonthis game and potentially should
have won this game, um, if notfor a, a not butt touchdown and,
you know, fumbling on the goalline and Right in, you know,
those things.
So, um, and not taking anythingfrom tcu, I'm just saying.
Right.
Uh, they had their shot too.

(35:49):
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (35:49):
So I mean, as I look at this game, I, I look at, uh,
that first drive Michigan goesdown, I have no problem with
them going for it.
However, the mistake, as youtalked about in stupidity right
from the outset is you run atrick play on fourth and one.
Um, and as.
Powerhouse, dominating, supposedto be able to dominate both

(36:12):
sides of the line of scrimmage.
That's why this game's gonna getugly.
You don't run trick play.
You don't run a trick play.
You especially don't run a trickplay at the beginning of the
game.
If you, if you let the otherteam think that you need trick
plays to win as an overwhelmingfavorite on the first drive.
Even if you get it, you haveset, you have now set a mindset

(36:35):
that you have to use somethingother than brute force and just
an overall dominance, whicheveryone talked about.
You having inclu specifically,you talked about you having, uh,
and then you didn't use it andyou, and you didn't even attempt
it.
So it's one thing to getstopped.

(36:57):
The way they got stopped waseven worse.
That set the tone for the restof the game.
TCU at

Stoy Hall (37:01):
that point, was no longer afraid.
If they were, which by the way,that first drive, you could
have, you could have said theywere right.
Um, but from then on, like yousaid, even if they would've got
it, no intimidation factorwhatsoever.
Done.
Game over, we are equals.
If not, we're better.

Cole Ingle (37:15):
Good luck.
Come and get it.
And then Michigan has thecontroversial play.
Um, it, it was a touchdown, uh,again, repping, affecting
football games on the highestlevel.
Um, and they overturned thecall, which was even more.
That was a damn touch.
Uh, unbelievable.
But, uh, then you have a fumbleon the next play.

(37:38):
You're just overthinking,handing a ball to a guy that's a
former linebacker in tightquarters, never gets the
handoff.
Ball goes tcu, you hit the ballback.
Um, just again, stupidity,you're stupid.
Um, you know, over coaching, Ithink is what killed Michigan.
Now, tcu later in the game, uh,they have two interceptions.

(38:03):
Both interceptions arguablyshould have been caught.
One 100% should have beencaught.
Uh, so they gave some back alittle bit.
Um, both teams had a fumble inthere.
So really, you know, I, I thinkthat tcu, there was a call that,
that went against TCU on afumble, or it could have been
down, maybe it wasn't, um, youknow, type of thing.

(38:25):
So, you know, overall, I didn'tsee enough that went against
Michigan to take anything awayfrom what TCU did to win that
football.
And Max Duggan was good, but he,but he wasn't Heisman.
No.
You know, it wasn't anythingcrazy to where you saw like a

(38:48):
one man show that we've seen inthese college football playoff
games over the years and stufflike that, that we thought he
would have to have in order forthem to win the game.
They were not mistake free.
They were not, and theycompeted.
And I think ultimately that'sthe biggest thing for me, the
biggest takeaway.
Their physic, they matchedMichigan's physicality.
If we're not a more physicalteam as far as being able to

(39:09):
dominate offensive line ofscrimmage, um, they were a
better, more physical team.
On the offensive front,defensively is about 50 50.
Neither team got a ton ofpressure.
So, uh, not really gonna give itto one team or the other there.
But TCU competed with Michiganthe whole game.
The score showed it both teamshad three turnovers, um, which

(39:30):
in a 51 45 game, the fact thatthere were six turnovers and you
still had 96 points scored islike this could have been a 70
to 65 game.
Yeah.
Um, with, without even thinkingabout it, because they weren't
really forced turnover like theywere and they weren't, like the
plays happened, but they weren'tjust a, a team taking the ball
away.
Like they were kind of giveawayturnovers.

(39:50):
At least four outta six werefluke turnovers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So correctable things, hopefullyfor tcu.

Stoy Hall (39:55):
Uh, that better be on my opinion.
But I mean, it

Cole Ingle (39:58):
was a good game.
It really led us into thenightcap when you're just like,
all right, man.
I wasn't even even ready forthat next game to start.
And we had people come over forNew Year's and I'm just like,

Stoy Hall (40:09):
need to breathe, need I need something.
Right.
I need a

Cole Ingle (40:12):
break.
And like, and then boom,

Stoy Hall (40:15):
here we go.
Yeah.
Right into it.
Yeah.
So that's, uh, uh, we didn'tfarewell.
We'll just wait.
We didn't

Cole Ingle (40:22):
farewell Michigan.
I mean, we both had Michigan.
Um, did we hit the over I don'teven remember.
One

Stoy Hall (40:29):
of these games I had the under on, I don't know which
one.
Yeah, but I think this was theone we hit the over, I took the
under in this one, I believe.
Okay.
Which again, we'll, we'll getto, but here we go.
Uh, then we roll right into, Imean, and right into it.
It was like 15 minutes.
I think.
It was not enough time to evenreally literally catch

Cole Ingle (40:47):
your breath.
Catch your breath was all,

Stoy Hall (40:48):
um, and here we go.
So Georgia, Ohio State, uh, wehad said it that this game, you
know, at Georgia shoulddominate, can dominate depending
on how, um, Ohio State's offenseplace, they have not really
shown much against much people.
However, we know that Georgia'sdefense is not ultimately where

(41:11):
the Georgia's defense wasbefore.
We, we did know that Georgiacould score, um, just what was
gonna come up of it.
Right.
And so first drive, Georgia'sdefense stands up.
Second drive, Georgia drivesdown, gets a Miss Field goal.
Now I'm like, okay, are, we'regonna get into a little nice
little match.
And then we just went off likefrom there, races taking off.

(41:34):
Um, overall, like just from a, ast.
Statistics standpoint, which I'mnot a statistics guy, but I
believe Stroud, I don't knowwhere he was on people's strap
boards.
He definitely made himselfmoney.
Mm-hmm.
23 for 34, 348 yards and fourtouchdowns and was just picking
'em apart, although there was alot of blown coverages.

(41:54):
Mm-hmm.
um, and Seth and Bennett.
I don't know why people don'ttalk more about Sens.
Uh, maybe he's short.
He's old.
I don't get it.
He's like a Dre Drew.

Cole Ingle (42:02):
Too little Drew breezy, breezy to you?
I don't think he has the armstrength.
23

Stoy Hall (42:06):
for 34, 398 yards, three touchdowns in apic.
Um, just, it was just a really,really good

Cole Ingle (42:15):
game.
Yeah.
I don't know how Ohio State losthis game.
Game.

Stoy Hall (42:19):
Yeah, I don't either.
I don't either.

Cole Ingle (42:21):
I mean, I went back besides coaching, of course, um,
like I said, we had people over,so like I was more distracted
during this game than I was theother game.
Just as far as in ebbs andflows.
I watched like the second halfagain, Ohio State choked.

(42:42):
Um, and I'd like to be able toput my finger on it a little bit
more as far as Marvin Harrison,Jr.
Went out of the game.
And so you don't have thatfactor as far as elite
receivers, you know, OhioState's down, you know, a couple

(43:02):
receivers tied in, you know,whatever it may be.
Yeah.
But at that

Stoy Hall (43:05):
point, but I mean, it shouldn't, like at that point,
cuz if he would've caught,touched on, well, we're gonna
get to that, don't worry.
But Right, right.
At that point, still, 38, 24with five minutes left on the.

Cole Ingle (43:18):
Yeah.
I mean, fourth quarter they wereup two scores.

Stoy Hall (43:22):
Yeah.
I mean, they're up, they're up11, uh, two minutes into the
fourth quarter.
Mm-hmm.
So I, I get that like, yeah, nothaving him suck, but you had the
po the points

Cole Ingle (43:33):
were there already, right?
I mean, you gave up that.
And George is just the thingthat, and that's the scary part
about this is the scary partabout Georgia is Georgia looked
pedestrian again.
They have athletes all over thefield.
Guys can make plays, explosiveplays.
I mean, you had a completelyblown coverage, uh, to get the

(43:53):
game back to I think 30, 35 or38, 32, something somewhere in
there.
I don't remember if they kickedthe field goal before or after,
but I mean, literally a guy randown the sideline guy fell down,
and there's nobody there.
Um, he had a couple of playswhere they're running back.
Literally just ran through thedefense and it looked like the
defense was staining still.
Yeah.
Uh, so like you have eliteathletes and so like when you
watch those plays, you're like,wow, okay.

(44:16):
Like that's why George is sogood is because they can afford
to play bad and win.
But like Ohio State has to winthat game.
Like you can't play as well astheir quarterback played and as
well as their team played ingeneral and lose that football

Stoy Hall (44:31):
game.
I wanna know this, yourquarterback, I played one of the
top games you could play in thesemi-finals, probably ever
hotter in hell.
Mm-hmm.
I know one of your receivers isout.
That's fine.
It doesn't matter.
He was hot.
Yeah.
He he's gonna make it happen.
Let him.
that last drive.
Mm-hmm.
you took the ball out of hishands and just said, meh.

Cole Ingle (44:52):
Once you got, I mean yeah.
Once you got to 35 or 30,basically.
Yeah.
You just said why coaches justget so comfortable of not, and I
don't, it's not comfortable.
I think coaches get scared.
You're in field goal range.
You do not want to take yourselfout of field goal range.
The only way in their mind to dothat is to drop back and pass

(45:16):
knowing that I can be sacked.
You've gotta trust the guy thatfinished what?
Third in Heisman votes second inHeisman votes wherever he was
and

Stoy Hall (45:25):
was in Fugo.
I don't even know.
Hundred

Cole Ingle (45:28):
yards.
Four touchdowns had to turnedthe ball over, maybe had been
sacked a couple times all night.
I mean, roll'em out.

Stoy Hall (45:37):
Uh, yeah.
You also, you gotta think aboutthe defense.
I can't bring pressure on you.
Right?
You're, you're sitting in fieldgoal range.
Mm-hmm.
uh, now granted a longer fieldgoal, right?
I want you to stop there.
Mm-hmm.
So I want you to run the ballinto the teeth of my defense.
Right.
I don't want you to drop backand pass because I can't come
blitz you.
If I do, I'm putting so muchpressure back there.

(45:57):
Yeah.
I just,

Cole Ingle (45:59):
that was ridiculed.
Ridiculous.
You played, you played to kick afield goal, 45 plus yards to win
a game.
Awful.
And granted, your guy had hit a48 yarder, I think already.
I don't care.
But you put all of the.
on one guy?
No, it's three

Stoy Hall (46:13):
guys.
Okay.
I didn't, I didn't even a holdkick.
I didn't even look at the snapor the hold.
You couldn't, there's not

Cole Ingle (46:18):
any good

Stoy Hall (46:19):
was there was no good angles to me.
I couldn't find it.
Oh,

Cole Ingle (46:21):
well the plant, he planted his foot really close to
the ball when you see, and solike, okay, so as far as getting
outta a swing, your swing waseither gonna be

Stoy Hall (46:30):
because the way he missed it.
Oh, I mean, he was not a, thatwas not a like a, like a kick
problem.
There was something mechanicallybetween snap, uh, hold or, uh,
and I never saw his playingfoot, but maybe it was playing
foot, like some timing thing wasnot right.

Cole Ingle (46:48):
I think that the pressure got to him.

Stoy Hall (46:50):
It, I easily put

Cole Ingle (46:52):
up, I just don't know the, he was standing on 18
and a two-stroke lead in just,and he had an eight iron in hand
and shank the, he shanked itinto the water.
Uh, yeah.
It didn't even get to the water.
It's rolling up behind it.
It's, I mean, he kicked a 48yard field goal, 20 yards left

(47:12):
and 30 yards on the field.
It was so bad.
I mean, there was like, not evenlike they celebrated as the ball
came off his foot.
Like there wasn't even any oflike the Wait, no.
Did it?
Or No.
Like you couldn't even, like, itwas the most anti-climactic game
feel situation I think I've everseen because of how bad he

(47:32):
missed it.
Like just like, uh oh yeah,that's, and then literally at.
midnight.

Stoy Hall (47:40):
Uh, yeah.
Yeah,

Cole Ingle (47:40):
it was, so there's the, yeah, the split screen, I'm
sure that you've seen, seen, oh,I think

Stoy Hall (47:45):
we have it in the Twitter.
It's, that's

Cole Ingle (47:48):
where as the, as the

Stoy Hall (47:50):
clock strikes

Cole Ingle (47:52):
midnight.
Midnight, which midnight Easterntime.
Yeah.
Um, you shanked it to shankedit.
And so you've got Stetson beenrunning out, uh, at midnight,
basically the whole celebration.
Yeah.
I mean, midnight, it worked welltogether, but yeah, I just, uh,
Ohio State, if you asked me, Iwould've said on that night,
Ohio State was the moredeserving, better football team.

(48:13):
Mm-hmm.
And they had a kick to win it.
So like, let's not act likeStrout didn't get them down
there and give them a chance towin, um, which he did.
And that was a back and forthgame like that in the fourth
quarter to where, you know, teamthat has the ball last wins
unless you botched the kick kickand they botched the kick.
Gotcha.
So, um, you know, not the sameas, you know, I thought TCU

(48:36):
deserved to win against Michiganthe way those two teams played.
Yeah.
And I thought Ohio Statedeserved to win.
Um, but unless, uh, Georgiaprevailed and they are now 13
and a half point favoritesagainst tcu, which we'll talk
about that, but that doesn'tmake any damn sense to me.
Uh, but

Stoy Hall (48:53):
hey, great.
Semi-finals.
Yeah.
Everyone's saying can't wait fora 12, man.
Uh, yep, I agree.
Yeah.
12 Team playoff is gonna showmore of these.
They'll be blowouts, obviously,but it's just the excitement of
these games when we had thesetwo games marked as, I don't
think they're gonna be close.
Oh, Vegas was right.
Again.
Good job.
Vegas.

(49:14):
Uh, you're doing pretty well,but, uh, that was college
football.
Uh, no, no, no, no, no.
Back up.
I'll go back.
Okay.
I gotta talk about two games,uh, three games, Um, I'm gonna
start with LSU Purdue.
Did you see that happening?
63 to seven?

(49:35):
No, but that's ridiculous.
I just had to mention

Cole Ingle (49:37):
that.
It's just one of those thingsthat once it, once the snowball
starts rolling downhill andthose bowl games, it can get
ugly fast.
Now the

Stoy Hall (49:44):
game we did pick though, Penn State, Utah.
Mm-hmm.
and we goon, unlocked, I'mpretty sure on Utah.
Utah, yep.
Um, good for Penn State.

Cole Ingle (49:54):
I mean, Penn State had good for Penn State two
plays, um, or two drives, um, inwhich they scored touchdowns of
95 plus yards on those twodrives.
They scored touchdowns of 85 orgreater yards.
So they ran two plays and Ithink three plays on the other
one, um, for touchdowns, whichended up putting the game away.

(50:14):
And then Utah's quarterback gothurt when, which would have been
their only chance of comingback, would've been having him
in.
So the game got reallyanti-climatic really quick.
And what was a good game?
Two and a half, almost threequarters.
Um, yeah, two and a halfquarters basically.
So that made a big difference.
Um, I did not see Penn Statehaving two plus 80 yard

(50:38):
touchdowns against the Utahevents.
So Good.
Kudos to them.
Yeah.
For them.
Uh, good win.
I don't care for Did you watch

Stoy Hall (50:46):
or their coach usc Yeah.
That ending.
Mm-hmm.
was

Cole Ingle (50:52):
absurd.
Yeah.
I watched that game.
That one was pretty much end.
It's in our entirety.
Um, USC is terrible on defense.
They can't tackle anyone.
Um, everything else is fine.
Obviously they're quarter plback play is really good and
their offense is really good.
But, so this sequence,

Stoy Hall (51:13):
um, at the end of the game, because I really tuned

Cole Ingle (51:16):
in next, this is a Power five team of 16 points
with how long?
15?

Stoy Hall (51:20):
It was 15 points with like four minutes left.
With four, because this is whenI tuned in against Tulane.
Yeah.
I tuned in at this point.
Um, they kicked the field goal.
Mm-hmm.
to go up 15 was like fourminutes, three, four

Cole Ingle (51:32):
minutes.
So at this point it's 45 to 30with four 20 left

Stoy Hall (51:36):
or something like that.
Somewhere in there, right?
Yeah.
And I'm like, well, let, let'skind of get outta hand.
Mm-hmm.
uh, that's not, they're notgonna do anything.
And then all of a sudden,Tulane, and I'm not a hundred
percent sure how that happened,but USC gives up just a bomb.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and then, you know, uh, tLingos walks right into the.

(51:58):
I'm like, okay, eight points,three minutes still like the,
it's still long shot.
Right, right, right.
You c just needs to go down.
Maybe he kick a field goal,waste a bunch of clock,
whatever.

Cole Ingle (52:08):
Mind you, uscs often been driving up down the field
the whole game.

Stoy Hall (52:11):
Yeah.
This should be no problems.
Yep.
Except for their return.
Guy calls a fair catch and justlike boo boo right outta bounce
on the two.
Doesn't matter.
Just boo boo.
Right outta bounce.
And I'm like, how, what?
How in the hell you could havelet the thing, there are so many
other things that could havehappened, but that one thing, so

(52:33):
now they're on the two, huh?
Or one?
I don't care.
Huh?
I'm thinking, okay, you've gotHeisman winner, uh, you've got
weapons.
Um, you're always in shotgun.
Stupid.
Uh, so I'm thinking, Hey,they're gonna throw out of this
situation because there's, youdamn sure don't want to get a

(52:54):
safety clearly running the balldownhill right now.
It's not a good idea.
Let's just quick pass, couplequick passes.
Let's get some breathing room.
Long punt, let your defense tryto win it for you.
Mm-hmm.
No, no, no.
Nope.
It's not what they do now.
They goes on read twice in arow.
Mm-hmm.
for

Cole Ingle (53:12):
safety.
And the safety was like threeyards deep in the end zone.
It was false.
It was no doubt, safety.

Stoy Hall (53:18):
It was so bad that Caleb Williams tried to then
take the ball from his runningback.
Who was getting drivenbackwards.
Right.
And try to get out the, his onlyshot was

Cole Ingle (53:26):
to do that.
Right.
Okay.
Well, here's the other thing.
If you feel like you need to runthe ball, sneak the damn thing
through your times and kick it.
Yes.
You can't lose yards.

Stoy Hall (53:36):
Worst you get, oh, you're at the two, right?
Right.
Now I gotta punt it.
No, these were shotgun snaps.
Okay.
So now guess what?
You had an eight point lead.
You have a six point lead.
Guess what happens when theyscore a touchdown?
You're most likely losing thegame.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
So that happens.
And Tulane just methodicallyjust goes down and really no

(53:58):
problems.
I didn't, I I, when they startedthis drive, I was just like, um,
besides starting with a sackmm-hmm.
they, they were not putting aspy on Pratt and he was just
gonna get whatever yards heneeded to get.
Mm-hmm.
the entire drive.
Yeah.
All the way down

Cole Ingle (54:19):
that 12.
It was like 12 plays, three anda half minute drive.
Um Yep.
To end the game playing.
I mean, that was, what's that?
I didn't even give CalebWilliams a chance.
And you just, that was a thing.
Like you, Caleb wins on thesideline, just like, yeah.
I'm not like at that point, likeyou just wanted to let him score
just so that you can get theball back.
If you're usc, like, just don'tput me at the one yard line and
we'll go win the game.

(54:39):
Good Lord.
Now

Stoy Hall (54:40):
Vegas had one and a half.
SC being favorite.
Mm-hmm.
So they knew something, but Wow.
Uh, good for Tulane.
Yeah.
Good for college football.
The big usc Welcome to the

Cole Ingle (54:52):
Big 10 usc.
Uh, yeah.
Really choked it off there.

Stoy Hall (54:56):
Yeah.
All right.
So that's, that's our collegefootball

Cole Ingle (54:59):
recap.
A lot of amazing, exciting ballgames.
And then college footballplayoff to, uh, to top it all
off.
Yes.
Uh, with college football reallydelivering, um, over the weekend
and through bowl season,honestly.
Did I

Stoy Hall (55:17):
happening?
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Let's get into our, uh, ourTwitter feed, which is always
fun.
Always a good one.
Diving in, always.
Good.
Good.

Cole Ingle (55:28):
And to have, we got a, we got a lot of like, funny,
funny ish clips, I guess thisweek.
Why won't you let me click?
So, at first appearance here,um, nothing real crazy.
Nobody gets hit.
Guy throws the ball.
Um, this is in

Stoy Hall (55:44):
Okay.
So I don't, where are welooking?
Let's, so let everyone knowwe're looking here.

Cole Ingle (55:50):
Yep.
Guy lined up right over.
Okay.
Offensive tackle.

Stoy Hall (55:53):
Okay.
And in, in, he's gonna berunning a stunt.
Who cares what the name of astunt is?
Doesn't matter.
Ultimately, he's running astunt, so he's doing what he's
supposed to be doing.
Right.
Going to the inside shoulder.
Yeah.
Doing all that stuff.
There was a problem though.
His problem.
The

Cole Ingle (56:10):
problem is nobody blocks

Stoy Hall (56:11):
him.
Oh, come on.
All right.
His, his issue is his fieldawareness.
The fact that n the you showedthis and I was like, what are
you talking about?
I don't even, he's

Cole Ingle (56:24):
a great throne catch.
I don't even think that he wasrunning a stunt because where's
the guy that's stunting insideof him?
Oh my

Stoy Hall (56:31):
God.

Cole Ingle (56:32):
I, that's, that's what I was looking for.
He thought they were, I waswaiting for the stunt one to

Stoy Hall (56:37):
been him to come in.

Cole Ingle (56:39):
That's what I'm saying.
And

Stoy Hall (56:41):
and they slid and left

Cole Ingle (56:42):
him.
Yeah, but he didn't stunt theoutside either.
The outside guy didn't stuntwhen someone
messed

Stoy Hall (56:47):
up.
Right.
Someone Either way.
Either way.
There was a

Cole Ingle (56:52):
he ran.
I mean they dominated the lefttackle.
Yeah.
Which by the way, to no avail.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (56:58):
Uh, Matthews.
Jake Matthews, good luck.
You had no chance in hell here.
Like what are you gonna do here?
Like ask or you did your job.
Yeah.
You blocked'em.
Both Got'em both.
Got'em both.
Uh, left guard sliding.
That's gr This is great.
This is, this is all good.
Pass pro.
Um, now that being said, asfunny as is, is this a rookie
quarterback?

(57:18):
Did he make this call, you thinkor did the line?
Well,

Cole Ingle (57:21):
here's the problem I have is that one, two.
So you've got the 2, 1, 2, 3,

Stoy Hall (57:24):
4, you got running back over here.

Cole Ingle (57:26):
Yeah.
So you've got the running backon the right side.
There's no way you're notsliding left in this protection.
Um, six.
The numbers game six is the mic.
The center should have a call.
You got six on six.
Louie.
Louie.
Louie.
Good to go.
Um, you know the center's takingthe guy right over the top.
Slide 68, slide to 10 seven'sgot the outside, you've got
outside and then running backs,checking inside out.

(57:49):
Just in case number six gets a,a free run for some reason.
Correct.
And then he's gonna help, youknow, on anybody else that might
come through there.
Like which, uh, you should,which I mean, technically in
this he would have thelinebacker.

Stoy Hall (58:04):
Yes.
That's where he would be lookingto, which I'm pretty sure he
does.
So I don't Yeah, he does.
He looks and

Cole Ingle (58:11):
then tries to get out 60, I think it's 68 probably
there that screws up.
Uh, cuz he's the only one whodoesn't, uh, to be fair, that's
our

Stoy Hall (58:20):
weakest position.
If you're Valcon fan, it's a

Cole Ingle (58:23):
problem.
So, but everybody else was kindof sliding.
Right.
But I mean, they would've had tojust because of the alignment.
So like, that should've justbeen any who, uh, free

Stoy Hall (58:31):
run at a quarterback.
And

Cole Ingle (58:32):
you, he just, I mean, he had the opportunity to
go hit a guy in the, you know,just didn't do it.

Stoy Hall (58:37):
You just, you just tapped out.
Yep.
Oh.
It's not the one I wanted toclick.
Come on.
Oh, there we go.
What is, everything's just slow.

(58:59):
Uh, we're just gonna watch a,you know, just a big hit, just a
big ass hit.
I, I love every part of it.
Legal, everything.
Hit legal.

Cole Ingle (59:07):
Yep.
Turn the shoulder.
Look just a little guy too.
Just probably don't weigh ahundred seventy, a hundred
seventy five pounds.
No receiver.
Caught

Stoy Hall (59:12):
the ball.
It's a win-win, win across theboard.
If my opinion, except for, youknow, the,

Cole Ingle (59:16):
except for his ribs.
Except for his ribs.
Just, oh, he got the ball on theway there.
Um, yeah, that hurt.
The mouthpiece came

Stoy Hall (59:23):
out.
Let's just say though, thathurt.
Mm-hmm.
There's no way around the factthat this hurt.
Yeah, this hurt.
No doubt.
And, and, uh, KU lost.

Cole Ingle (59:36):
They made a valiant comeback.
They did.
Uh, they really, cause they weregetting destroyed.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (59:42):
Um, great.
That, that jumped all the way upto December 12th.
Oh boy.
We're gonna have to work our waybackwards.
How did that happen?
Because we, uh, we send a lot.
I'm,

Cole Ingle (59:57):
I'm not, not sure what's going on with the feed
right now,

Stoy Hall (01:00:01):
I'm not either.
Uh uh, um, Good Lord there.

Cole Ingle (01:00:16):
It's start there.
It's going through and thenorganizing a show.
Just doing a show folder.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:00:23):
Yeah.
Probably, probably.
Uh, no, I don't want that one.
Oh, oh, that's just, these areall talking points.
What did I had to, like, what isthis?

(01:00:45):
Is this real?

I don't think so, but I mean, who knows?

Stoy Hall (01:00:50):
The fact that I saw it multiple times, I'm like,
there's no way.
I mean, no

way.
Terrell Owens is, is definitelyknown for, he still looks like
he's in shape.
Let's just be real.
Right.
For what?
But I mean, begging, basicallybegging to get back to the nfl,
uh, and has been for 10, 12years now, however long he is
been now even, it's been, it'sbeen a long time.
Is he?
Yeah, he's 49, so, uh, yeah,allegedly, um, Jerry Jones and

(01:01:16):
Terrell Owens team had been incontact, but, uh, not,

Stoy Hall (01:01:23):
I think it's contact.
I don't think they're

contact.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't, yeah, don'tthink that there was anything,
uh, to that.
So.
Oh.

Stoy Hall (01:01:34):
Let's see, what hell's that?
I dunno.
I remember what that was.

This was before the Thursday night game.
So Dallas played Tennessee onThursday night, and the first
touchdown score is a verypopular bet, um, for people to
take, uh, what what person for ateam, um, will score the first
touchdown.
And they actually had noTennessee touchdown being scored
as the Not only a bet, but like,which I don't even know if it's,

(01:02:06):
I don't know if it's a betusually.
And it's just so far down youdon't get to it.
Yeah.
But it's usually that.
Um, but it was the number onepick for Tennessee because of
who they were playing andplaying against, um, as far as
just not having, um, anybody inthe game.
But their offense was actuallyin better hands, um, once they

(01:02:27):
got a guy off a practice squadfrom the Lions than it was in
Malik Willis's hands as it turnsout.
So, um, y yeah, so,

Stoy Hall (01:02:37):
uh, can't wait for that off season.
Um, Jerry Judy tweeting.
Um, I ain't gonna keep lookingat these false statements about
my boy Russ man as a teammatewho sees the elite work ethic
this man has is incomparable.
He got in office because he'scommitted to his life to, to
this game.
I never had a teammate who mo.
Who motivated me more than Russ?
Um, I don't, I don't seeanything I, I put this out here

(01:03:00):
just because, or, uh, you did.
Um, and, and I agree.
Like a, a teammate's gonna backhim up.
There was no way that Jerry dutywas gonna come out and say
something else.
Um, in my opinion, yeah.

But he didn't have to say anything.

Stoy Hall (01:03:13):
He didn't have to say anything.
Um, and nobody was asking him tosay anything.
But I don't think a lot of thequestioning has been around his
work ethic or anything from a,like a player's situation.
It's just performance.
Performance.

Well, I mean, from you and I, it's performance.
I think there's a, I meanthere's a lot, a lot of Yep.
You know, again, you're notwrong.
You're not wrong.
Get off of

Stoy Hall (01:03:31):
Twitter, basically.
Yeah.
I mean, cuz performance wiseit's, that's, there's a lot of
trolls.
Um,

he's still, and all the Russ Cook, Russ gonna cook
memes.
Mm-hmm.
you know, all that type ofstuff.
You know, it wears on youthroughout a season.
Yeah.
Especially when your team sucks,uh, you're gonna have these
reactions.
So, uh, Russ said a lot of goodthings in that press conference,
uh, after and has actuallylooked done well for himself
this week, just as from a lookstandpoint.
But, um, yeah, it, uh, I guesswas good to get.

Stoy Hall (01:04:00):
Yeah.
So we're gonna go back to thisroughing the pasture thing.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know how many times, howmany, how long, how many years
we have to do it for,

but, um, Hey, that's how you don't get blocked and
run right to the quarterback.
Correct.
For those scoring.
Cause this is exactly whathappened.
It's say play, it's the exactsame point.

Stoy Hall (01:04:15):
Um, but I think this one was actually a stunt.
Maybe any who, um,

I don't think it was, they just overloaded.
They just, and they just didn'tslide again though.
Like, they didn't slid the wrongway.
They didn't slide anyways.
Like,

Stoy Hall (01:04:31):
uh, how is this

roughing?
The passer right there?
I mean, I, I'm telling you whatthey're calling, I don't, I know
what they're calling it.
I don't

Stoy Hall (01:04:41):
agree with they're calling, they're saying putting

his weight on him, but as soon as, but like as soon
as he, so, I mean, do you wantthe answer or do you like, as
soon as he does that, they'regonna call as soon as he tilts.
That's the driving thing thatthey're talking about.
And again, completely disagree,but that's exactly what they're
looking for.
As soon as he lifts up righthere.

(01:05:04):
So he's lifting with that leftshoulder and he's gonna drive
boom.
And even though he's, the thingthat he did, he even tried to
put his weight down on his righthand.
I agree.

Stoy Hall (01:05:15):
That's what I was like, what does he like?
I think he was like, tr

I, no, it's not fair to defenders at all.
A hundred percent because assoon as he does that, and I
don't know if we put it on here,uh, there was

Stoy Hall (01:05:25):
the play.
I think.
I hope we did.

Okay.
There's a play that happenedthis week where the guy stopped
tackling the quarterback becauseof it.
A actually, I don't even thinkhe stopped.
He just didn't hit him.
Start tackling.
No, he hit him.
But like, he didn't rat like,no, and, and the quarterback
threw the ball.
And like, that's what's going tohappen to these defenses and
that's, it's not fair to thedefense.
Um,

Stoy Hall (01:05:47):
So

same.
Same thing.
Same thing.
And you see when he lifted todrive there, same.
I mean, it's the exact samething when he does that, which
is how you're taught to finish atackle.
That's what they called on theother guy, because he was
standing up this way, but hedidn't get called.
He didn't get called because hewas laying down.
The quarterback was down and theplayer was down low.
So it doesn't look as egregiousbecause they're not.

(01:06:10):
But it's like, but uh, that'sall it is.
They're not starting from, andI, again, I do not agree with
it, but that's what they'recalling and it's going to
continue to show up stupid againand again and again.
Uh, stupid.

Stoy Hall (01:06:26):
Happy birthday Tigger.
Put that out there.
47.
47.
Um, I, I just want to makereference to the fact that we,
what is going on that we loved,um, ARD counting in the block.
We,

we blew that one up.
That was worth$10,609

Stoy Hall (01:06:44):
stuff outta here.
Cous.
Yep.
There no one could have eversaid that.
Was taunting not a person.
Nope.
Cuz he wasn't.
He was counting.
Is it bad to count?
Uh, you, you put this one upthere?

Mean things are Yeah, this was, you know, as we
were getting just slaughteredand our college football bets,
uh, Clemson was down at halftimeand the game was still
relatively close at half, maybe10 to three, 13 to three or
something like that.
Clemson had 273 yards.
Tennessee in the first half andscored three points.

(01:07:19):
So, uh, way, way to go.
That's Just impressively bad.
Yeah, I mean, they moved theball well within the twenties
and then couldn't make a fieldgoal or get in the

Stoy Hall (01:07:30):
end zone, so, alright.
Right.
Quarterback, you threw up aquarterback star, uh, stat about
starting quarterbacks.
I

did.
Um, starting quarterback list.
Um, this is the list of guysyou've never heard of.
Is that Whoa.
Hey, for a couple of'em, butyeah, no, you're right.
So Jarret stead started for theRaiders, uh, David Bl, bl

Stoy Hall (01:07:52):
blah.
Anyways, started

for the Cardinals, started for the Arizona
Cardinals, uh, which that wouldbe the third and fourth string
quarterbacks for that.
Their respective teams, uh, onthe year.
Josh Dobbs, as I mentionedearlier, well Bla wasn't

Stoy Hall (01:08:07):
on the roster at some point, either.
Either dob, but was Steem

was right.
Yeah.
But he would've still beenthere.
Third string.
Third string, yeah.
Quarterback.
Um, Josh Dobbs got picked upfrom Detroit to start in
Tennessee, um, as their thirdstring guy, Desmond Ritter,
second string guy.
So that was rookie.
Nick Folz third string, oh God.
Uh, Davis Mills starter.
Um, but he starts for the worstteam in football.

(01:08:32):
Teddy Bridgewater, backup CarsonWinz.
Um, I, I feel like thatexperiment's finally over.
It has to be after this weekend.
I don't agree with Mike.

Stoy Hall (01:08:41):
Mike White, like the way he plays.
I

like that guy.
Well that's fine.
I don't have a problem with justnot good name.
Yeah, I mean, just it's, this isthe name a backup, uh, baker
Mayfield, former number onepick, but, uh, all over the
league.
I mean, he, now is it a backupfor the Rams?
Uh, Kenny Pickett rookie bestguy on the list.
Yeah.
Um, based on rookie end of gameperformance.
Yeah.
And then Andy Dalton, who's alsoactually played pretty well this

(01:09:04):
year for the Saints.
Yeah.
So, uh, your favorite team.
But yeah, that's, uh, those were3, 6, 9, 12 of the 32 starting
quarterbacks over a third of aleague was backup and or
rookies.
Yeah.
Well, and I even, or besidesDavis Mill Mills, Davis Mills

(01:09:24):
might be the only guy on that.
That's

Stoy Hall (01:09:26):
not a backup.
It's not a,

was not.
But none of those guys haveplayed every game in the season.
No.
Or even anywhere close.
Not even close, cuz Mills haseven been out and but the

Stoy Hall (01:09:34):
closest one would be

Dalton and Pickett.
Yeah.
But I mean, the closest both ofthem have had injuries in even
in between.
Yeah.
Yes.
All right, here we go.
So here is the, uh, the infamousnon-touch down, non-touch down
by Michigan, um, early in theTCU Michigan game.
But they fumble on the playafter this.

(01:09:56):
So it's a killer cuz it's takingseven points off the board.
Uh, not just hat, making themrun another play.
Um, somehow this was ruled atouchdown is the worst part.
So, There's just, I've seen itso many times, I don't know what
you're seeing there to overrulecuz this, this is overturned.
Um, and what they're seeing isthis, which is they call it now

(01:10:19):
down and there's no controluntil, but there's still no
control until he's in the there.
But, and then the thing is, sothere's control there and he's
clearly in the end zone.
In the end zone.
Uh, as it appears again to me,um, the

Stoy Hall (01:10:33):
biggest, this is the closest we have to live speed
and look at this, there's no wayyou could not call that

person.
Right?
The biggest thing to me is justthat, you know, whatever call
you made on the field, there'snothing on that.
There's absolutely nothing thereto overturn that call.
Um, in my opinion and in I wouldfeel like a very big majority of
anyone else's opinion.

Stoy Hall (01:10:53):
So now don't fumble the next handoff.

Right?
Right.
But that's tough.
Punch it in like you're supposedto.
That's the damn Taha.
So,

Stoy Hall (01:11:02):
um, here it is.
Here's the celebration we talkedabout earlier.
Why I don't,

what's happening.
This is the countdown, uh, from,we don't need to do it from 27,
but end of the game.
But we're here.
Everybody's running onto thefield.
Less than 20 seconds to gobefore the ball drops.
The ball drop on a ABC setting

Stoy Hall (01:11:32):
up as

10 seconds now down to five.
Here comes the snap kick, thehold, the hold.
And we're not, I'm not callingthat a kick.

Stoy Hall (01:11:44):
the shank and celebration.
Mad.
It's 2020.
Oh wait, no, no, no, no.
We're going to the championship.
What is that?

We're going to the ship, so, oh yeah.
Georgia

Stoy Hall (01:11:54):
wins.
That's insane.
In just the timing

is Yeah, the timing.
Silly.
Impeccable.

Stoy Hall (01:12:00):
It's silly.
And someone, whoever was doingthis Yeah, like, did that, put
that together?
Yep.
That's just impressive.
I a good edit there.
Alright.
This is one of thecontroversial, uh, things that
happened this weekend.
And when I first saw it, by theway, and I'm gonna, I can't

(01:12:21):
pause ever.
All right.
When I first saw it, I

thought, this is Kevon Tido coming off the edge,
um, blitz against Nick Fo.
And

Stoy Hall (01:12:32):
I originally saw it.
I was like, sweet Greyhound, thequarterback.
Love it.
Didn't and didn't mind.
Um, actually I didn't mind thecelebration, um, from, cuz this
is the clip I saw cuz he sentit, like, didn't mind it at
first because there's no way heknows what's going on.
No, he's not celebrating that.
He, it's when I learned laternow he looked over, now it's

(01:12:53):
from here.
And then what I learned

and his, his own guys are trying to get him off
the field by mind

Stoy Hall (01:12:57):
you, So like, and that had to hurt.
Who knows what happened to

him.
Well, I don't know.
What if he, I think he landed onthe ball, but like, what?
See, like he's, the way thathe's kicking and like shaking,
is that like, I don't know whatI, I was, I never did hear, did
you?
No, I didn't hear what theinjury was.
No.
Also, like, you wanna talk aboutroughing the passer from a a ref
view perspective, you can't putmore weight on a guy than, than

(01:13:25):
he did right there.
Agreed.
And like, I don't even thinkit's a remotely egregious hit.
No,

Stoy Hall (01:13:31):
but that's roughing.
The, that's more roughing thanthe

other two we just watched.
Oh, a hundred percent.
Because simply because he lightson him, like

Stoy Hall (01:13:38):
which caused this injury, which is

what the whole conversation to begin with that
we're even having it.
But like here we are.
So, and, and like even up tothat point a little bit, I don't
have like, this is celebration,whatever.
He doesn't know the guy's there,that guy celebrates with him.
Now that these guys come overand they're trying to get him up
away, that's fine.
Time to go.
My problem is there is anextension of this in which he

(01:14:01):
goes to the sideline.
Yes.
And does the whole put to sleepcelebration on the sideline?
That's

Stoy Hall (01:14:07):
it.
That,

that's knowing ended it for me after knowingly
entering someone, you know,whether, you know, again, not
egregious, not anything.
There was nothing there that,no.
That I would tell him to change.
But we have to have a littletact and like that's where,
that's where I lost it for me,was just like the fact that's
like, that's okay.

Stoy Hall (01:14:27):
I agree.
And that's where big fine'sgonna come.
Right.
I.
he's gonna get a$25,000 Fine.
You'd have to for that.
Yeah.
You would think if he doesn'tand he gets like a 10,000 and
it's the same as same lazard.
I will.
Same as this.
Yeah, I probably will.
Cuz it's the NFL and they'rejust stupid.
This I'm so, um,

just, it's that dominant saints defense, you
know,

Stoy Hall (01:14:49):
like I'm scrolling through and I go, what the hell?
This can't be real.
So I had to switch to the game,figure out what was going on.
Uh, first quarter stats in theSaints Eagles game.
44 rush yards to zero.
Mm-hmm 59 pass yards to twototal of 1 0 3 to two offensive
plays.
22 to three.
Time of possession.

(01:15:09):
12 minutes and 52 seconds to twominutes.
You would be thinking, I'mthinking I'm saying the eagles.
No, the saint's just dominatingthe first quarter.
Really?
More game.
But what do what You had one,one possession.
Mm-hmm.
Good lord.
Yeah.
The

Eagles.
Uh, just love stats.
Those are fun.
Yeah.
None, not a good look for theEagles there.
Uh, this, this is a middleschool, um, boys basketball

Stoy Hall (01:15:39):
game.
Yes.
We're showing you basketball.

Three seconds on the clock, kid gets stuck at half
court.
Has no other attempt or way toget the ball of the hoop other
than just sling it backwardsover his head and nothing but
net to win the game.
29.
Two things I

Stoy Hall (01:15:57):
love.
28, 2 things I love.
watch the kid.
He never turns, he just keepsleaning back to watch it.
Oh yeah.
Love that.
Love that.
Well, I mean, he has the

dexterity.
Yeah.
I would've fell as a 12 to 13year old kid.
That's

Stoy Hall (01:16:12):
one thing I loved about.
The other thing is I just lovethe overall score.
It's 28, 26, right?
Like,

I mean this was a low score more than like a 10th
of the points in the game.
Like they only got to 29 He gotthree of'em right there.
Don't win it.
Um, my guess is there, theremight not have been another
three pointer attempted and probmost likely not made the ref at
the end cracks me up.
The one, not the one next tohim, the one at the end.

(01:16:38):
If he, he's like watching thisball go up and it's like he
jumps he's like, oh my god.
So, yeah.
Oh God.
Cool moment for that kid.
He'll forever.
We have to highlight that, uh,highlight moment now.
That'll be, you know, blastedover Twitter.
I'm sure it's a top 10 play onESPN and stuff like that.
So if

Stoy Hall (01:16:56):
there's plays you want us to review, highlights,
all of that stuff, send it tous.
Yeah, go ahead.
Dms.
Um, we're all about that.
Um, I don't know what that wasabout, but week 18.
Yeah.
We'll

get to week 18.
Yeah, we'll cover that.
Uh, huge play after the Panthersgave the bucks every chance when
this game by just not coveringanyone down the field.
Yeah.
In the passing game.
They had this opportunity wherethe punter just completely
botched himself and then somehowgets that kickoff right footed

(01:17:38):
under a guy and down at a, downat the two yard

Stoy Hall (01:17:40):
line.
So many things the Pantherscould have done here.
One, get him down now.
Yeah.
Or now Or this guy get the hitthe ball.
What are you doing?
I have no idea.
Well, actually you could, hecould have laid out.
Yeah.
And just destroyed the punterbecause there's no roughing.
The punter at this point.
Game over on

that one.
No, that's not true.
There's still roughing.
The punter.
He could have got the ball.
It doesn't matter as long as hehits the ball.
But if he had just hits thepunter doesn't hit the ball.
It's roughing the punter still.
He's still a punter, not arunner.
Hit the ball.
Well, I

Stoy Hall (01:18:07):
agree, but like, hit the ball.
What do you do?
What was he doing?

More impressive, I guess.
More impressive on the punter.
More impressive that the puntergets the punt off.
Or less impressive that thePanthers didn't find a way to
get the punter down.

Stoy Hall (01:18:20):
That's a tough one, but I'll give him kudos.
Do a kicker.
Yeah.
Give punter love right here.
A little pun.
Love.
I mean, athlete.
Yeah.
Uh, won the game.
One.
The game with his athleticability.
I

mean, 35 seconds left in that game if he doesn't
get that punt off.
Yeah, Panther authors have achance to score and win.
Um, but not to be Tom Brady.
Aaron Rodgers.
We left him out to gross deadJust

Stoy Hall (01:18:47):
gross.
Did not playing well though.
So let's not, I mean, Roger'splaying better.
Brady's

not playing well.
Sorry.
That laugh was because we justsaw, we've got the video running
now of the Yeah.
The new commander's mascot.
Oh my.
Which is a giant overweight pig.
Cartoonish the helmet with a,with an army helmet.
Now, now I get

Stoy Hall (01:19:09):
I commander's colors.
I get what they were trying todo, right?
Correct.
They lost the whole Redskinsthing.

Yeah.
But the problem is however youfeel about thats, these days in
general are cartoonish.
Correct.
But

Stoy Hall (01:19:20):
like, they were going back to the roots.
Mm-hmm.
of, you know, the hogs and allof that stuff.
Yeah.
And then you, you went withMajor Tudy.

Major Tudy is his name.
And uh, and he looks like ajoke.
He looks like they played

Stoy Hall (01:19:37):
like, I get the whole big thing.
But you went with the ti, likethe, like the hips.
You even went tighter on thehip.
This, this bad.
It's a fail.
It's not good.
It's a fail.
Not good dude.
Couldn't even get into threepoint stance.
Get outta here.
Get outta here.

(01:19:58):
Mm.
This one, this one felt good.
This one made me watch a little,uh, golf on YouTube.
Mm-hmm.
This marks the last weekenduntil late August without PGA
two or golf.
We've got final rounds for thenext 24 weekends, 34.
34.
Yeah, I can't read.
That's fine.
34 weekends.
Yeah.
PGA tour or golf and all the,and all the Mondays with Tigray

(01:20:21):
and Rory.
Oh yeah.
Golf's coming into play

straight to the living room and checked it in.
My veins.
My

Stoy Hall (01:20:28):
veins.
That means golf season's comingsoon.
Oh,

here it is.
It was earlier in that samegame.
I didn't realize that is SoWince goes or Foz goes back to
pass.
Linebacker jumps up.
Oh, what you play?
Hits him.
Hits him.
Let's off because he thought theball was thrown.
I'm glad it was incomplete.
I'm so, and then throws it incompletion.

Stoy Hall (01:20:51):
But what is he supposed to do?
He can't take him to the groundthere.
Like how would you take, you'dhave to either one pick up and
put down or you'd have to throwYeah.
Which are roughing, the passer.
Mm-hmm.
right now, currently.

Well, sometimes not in the Chiefs game either.

Stoy Hall (01:21:08):
He thinks the ball's thrown, so he clearly isn't
going to continue becausemm-hmm.
if the ball's not,

he doesn't even like continue with a push like Uhuh
to push him to the ground.
Nothing.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:21:17):
Nothing.
This is what you're gonna seemore of.
Yeah.
And this is not, this is notgood for the,

also not football.
Mm-hmm.
might as well pulled his damnflag, right?
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
Hate to see it.
You really do.

Stoy Hall (01:21:32):
You really do.
Just more, uh, more Vikingstuff.
I gotta love those.
That team man, I, anotherterrible, the more I see them,
the more I think they actuallymight get bounced in the first
round.
Oh man.
Their defense is, we keep sayingfraudulent, but now their
offense is, uh,

yeah.
I mean, they not there haven'tbeen able to really block
anybody.
No.
They can get pressure all

Stoy Hall (01:21:55):
year.
So the Vikings are 12 and four.
They're point differentialsminus 19, the Raiders are six
and 10.
Theirs is minus five.

Yeah.
We're talking about a team whosent their starting quarterback
home, home, their franchisequarterback, they sent him home
so they don't have to pay him.
Who has a 14 point a twotouchdown?
Better point differential thanthe NFC North Champion Minnesota
Vikings who have a threetouchdown point differential.

(01:22:26):
Um, not in their favor.
Um, I just, if they don't win aplayoff game Oh.
Which, which does not look good,they will be the most fraudulent
team in NFL history.
If they aren't already,

Stoy Hall (01:22:42):
they're definitely debatable.
Mm-hmm.
But they don't win one playoffgame.
I mean, to me Yeah.
If they don't win one playoffgame mm-hmm.
biggest

frauds ever.
Yeah.
No, a hundred percent.
And I don't think anybody can.
And

Stoy Hall (01:22:55):
chips and chips may fall in the off season.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Like that's, I don't know who,but something will ha I mean,
defensively something.
Oh, defensive.
Don't have to.
She, they should anyway,regardless of what they do.
Mm-hmm.
that's, yeah.
There it is.
There it is.
Um, I, so we talked about that.

(01:23:16):
We talked about the special playthis.
All right.
I might bring that up.
When we get

to the, there's a, a, I think I, I, that's where I
clicked it.
Put a longer one in there thatadd more the match up.
Maybe

Stoy Hall (01:23:33):
we got more rougher.
We go faster.
Here we go.
Yep.

So, so the first one is not from this year, this is
from several years ago.
Yeah.
When Chris Jones in a playoffgame, uh, called for roughing in
the passer shoulder because hehit him in the shoulder.
Hit him in the shoulder.
This is against the Broncos now

Stoy Hall (01:23:55):
a suplex them, which is, as we know, roughing the
passer.
Mm-hmm.
but it wasn't called, yeah.
Top one called how?
No idea.
Except for it's Brady.
Bottom one.

The only one that you can say for sure breaks all
of the rules of roughing.
The pass is the bottom one.
Is the bottom One of all theones we've seen today.
Yeah.
Was

Stoy Hall (01:24:21):
not called.
top one

him.
And he spins him.
He turns him, he picks him up,and then he slams him into the
ground with his weight on him.

Stoy Hall (01:24:30):
he doesn't, he everything.
First of all, I don't know howRoss got this ball away.
Is

it just Ross

Stoy Hall (01:24:37):
Let's put it that way.

Uh, yeah.
Well, again, even that it's anissue.
Like I have an issue with beingroughing the passer.
Like, yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:24:46):
Okay.
So this is, this was a bigthing, uh, targeting and this is
what knocked out MarvinHarrison.
Yep.
Yep.
Junior, right here.
You have it in slow Mo and I'mjust gonna let it play again.
This is not us being choppy.
This is actually slow mo.
Yep.
Um, ends up looking at hisconcussion, but where's the

(01:25:09):
targeting?

Shoulder?
Shoulder?
No helmet to helmet at all.
Neither one of their heads hiteach other.
Uhuh.
Um, so either what you can't seeon any of the views that I have
watched is if his head, it'sslams to the turf after he gets
hit, or if it's from thewhiplash there.
But like, his head didn't evenwhip that much.
His

Stoy Hall (01:25:29):
shoulder was clean.
Clean, yeah.
And they over, they notoverturned it.
They did not, no, theyoverturned it.
They, well, it's not calledoverturned, whatever it is.
They picked up the flag.

Picked up the flag.
There was a flag thrown fortargeting, um, which was not,
there was no, uh, launching.
There was no contact above heador neck area.
Uh, no crown of the helmet,nothing.
And yes, Marvin Harrison, Jr.
Went outta the game with aconcussion right here.
Yeah.
Again, from that whip, or wecan't see there, right?
Did it happen when he hit theground?

(01:26:02):
Is that a really hard hit?
Yes.
Absolutely clean, uh, completelylegal.
And again, part of unfortunatelywhat, you know, that's, it's
good football.
What football players sign upfor just good football.
Um, so I don't, yeah, hate thathe got hurt on the play, but if
a flag's thrown there and thatplays upheld, that's, that's
just, that's the wrong call.

(01:26:23):
Correct.
And so kudos to them forreviewing the play.
Um, and you know, they gottaRight.
Making it happen.
So, so, uh, crazy stat, reallycrazy stat, um, teams that have
played the 49ers this season.

(01:26:45):
So we're 17 weeks in.
Teams have had a bi-week at thispoint.
So teams have all played 16games.
So a couple teams have been onbuys afterwards are oh 14 the
following week after playing the49ers

Stoy Hall (01:26:58):
and the Falcons beat 'em, never forgets that Falcons
beat the Niners by two

touchdowns.
They beat'em and they lost, andthen they lost What is crazy
thing, if you've played the49ers this year, you lose next
week.
You weren't guaranteed to losethe next week.
The Raiders played the 49ersthis last week.
They will now go play the chiefswho are playing for a number one
seed in week eight.
And are load up on the Chiefsagain.
Jared load up on the chief loadup on the Chiefs.
Um, they will most likely finishthe season as what I would say

(01:27:29):
is the only team in NFL historygotta be to have their opponents
loose the next week, be winlessthe following week.
Yeah.
In an NFL season.
It's, that is an unbelievablestat.
It's, I don't know if, if that'smore unbelievable to me or the
fact that the Vikings are 12 andfour.
It is very close.

(01:27:51):
This one's I think maybe a evena tough more, there's a zero.
It's a zero.
It's a zero.
And like the teams that areplaying are, you know, obviously
they've got, we'll talk aboutgames

Stoy Hall (01:28:01):
they lost too.
We're like, we're not talking

about just wins.
Just not even games that areinvolved in though.
No.
they're not, they're notplaying.
They're playing next week.
You're

Stoy Hall (01:28:08):
like, this is, they just break'em.
Yeah.
Regardless if they beat you ornot, they break

you for the next week.
So basically Shanahan um, is theone that has the quote here and
he is like, you know, it couldbe a coincidence, which part of
it is definitely coincidence.
Don't get us wrong here, what welike to say, but, you know, the
physicality comes into it and a49ers team on both on offense
and defense that wants to hityou in the mouth a little bit.
And there's gotta be some truthto that based on that.

(01:28:33):
Um, at, you know, because evenat, you know, five and 10, like,
you know, that's still prettycrazy.
But oh and 15 is what that we'llfinish that It's gonna finish.
Yeah, absolutely.

Stoy Hall (01:28:44):
So, um, So week 17 and beyond week 18, opening
numbers compared to the lookahead

lines.
Yeah, basically, uh, a lot ofchange, a lot of items changing
based on, um, who's one andwho's lost, um, what the playoff
seatings looks like and, andthings along those lines.
Um,

Stoy Hall (01:29:07):
so that's what Eagles, I didn't even look it
up.
The Eagles, the Giants, or isn'tit Division games?
So the Eagles are playing, theGiants and the Cowboys are
playing Washington.
We know we have had,

so this is all N Ffc East Base, um, as I found and
posted it.
So in taking, uh, one step backto understand this a little bit
more, the Giants, the Cowboys inthe Eagles have all guaranteed
playoff spots.
Um, the cowboy Cowboys arecowboys.
Cowboys.
Who are they?
Cow pokes?
Yeah.
Uh, no, the Cowboys areguaranteed the five seed.

(01:29:37):
If the Eagles lose and theCowboys win, they can get all
the way to the one seed, um,which is just crazy to think
about in general.
So therefore, the Giants are theonly team that are guaranteed,
they're guaranteed the sixsucceed at this point.
No matter what happens, thegiants will be the succeed.
So they're the only team lockedinto a seed in the NFC right

(01:29:59):
now.
Um, so therefore, they're theonly team that no matter what
they do, they cannot changeanything and they are locked
into the playoffs.
So they literally haveabsolutely nothing to play for.
I expect the Giants to play.
No one.
Um, you know, sequ and Joneshave both been injury prone.
There's absolutely no reason youput any of those guys on the
field.

(01:30:19):
So their game against the Eagleswas expected to be a one and a
half point because at that outspread point to be they're
playing for something.
Yeah.
This is two weeks ago.
Yeah.
They were playing for something.
As soon as that became the otherside, the Eagles now still
playing for the one seed andagainst the, basically against
them.
Uh, that line jumped 12 and ahalf points to two touchdowns.

(01:30:43):
Um, and the Eagles have to win.
Like you can't play as well asthe Eagles have and lose three
in a row in and lose three in arow in the season now again has
been out.
Right.
But you have to find a way towin one of those games to secure
a playoff win.
Literally you needed to win oneoutta your last five to get one
seed.
To get the one seed.
And so they, uh, they will be,you know, going for it.

(01:31:06):
And I, I think they willprobably begrudgingly a little
bit have to play Hertz againstthe Giants.
Um, even if it is their

Stoy Hall (01:31:16):
backups, they get up 14 though.
That might be an e a real quick.
Right.
Real quick leash though.

Yeah.
Um, but yeah, so that was a bigchange.
And then Dallas because theywere thought to be locked into
the five seat, which they can'tbe any worse than the five seat
based on records.
Will now have to play, um,hoping for the one seed, uh,
obviously you'll buy and, uh,home games versus having to
travel as a wild card to Tampa.

(01:31:44):
Uh, they went from four and ahalf point underdogs or to seven
point favorites, so 11 and ahalf point jump, uh, and their
final game.
Huge.
Um, because instead of sittingpeople as it was anticipated
when these lines originally cameout, Dallas will now be trying
to play for a onee.
Huge, huge.
And we'll get into scheduling alittle bit too, but the reason,
the thing behind theseconversations is all in when

(01:32:07):
these games are played matters.
Yes.
Yep.
Because as we'll see with theSunday night game or Sunday
night game, being Green Bay inSeattle could be irrelevant.
Uh, excuse me, green Bay andDetroit.
Detroit, the Seattle game willhave an impact on that and we'll
go through all of that when wedo playoff protector stuff.
But, uh, yeah, just, just crazyjumps from week to week just

(01:32:30):
based on that information.

Stoy Hall (01:32:33):
So we get back to college football.
So we got college footballtargeting and NFL roughing.
The pather.
Yeah, that's, this is where weYeah.
We talk about where we're

living.
Um, so ball over the middle toreceiver two lane driving.
Yep.
Is this, this is the gamewinning drive.
Mm-hmm.
great.
Throw over the linebacker.
Safety coming over, uh, twosteps for the receiver.
So he is no longer defenseless.
Safety's just coming over tomake a.
uh, both guys kind of turnedtheir head at the same point.

(01:33:03):
It's not a crown of the helmet,like safety launching himself.
Nope.
It's literally just two guysrunning to the same spot at the
same time.
And I'm not sure if they wentout cold, but it looks like both
of them get knocked outsimultaneously.
Yeah, that's what it looks like.
Um, and there's no targetingcall.
Nope.

Stoy Hall (01:33:18):
It was not cold.
No, it should have been.

Um, and when we look at it, it was reviewed.
Mm-hmm.
uh, there wasn't a flag on thefield, I don't believe.
No, it was not, it was reviewedthough.
It was reviewed because itshould have been.
Right.

Stoy Hall (01:33:29):
But it's not targeting, I have no problems

with this.
Uh, you and I had conversationand, and my point on this is
that's fine.
I don't, I don't fault the guy,I don't think he should be
ejected or anything like thisone.
I've seen half the hit with halfthe intention called four
targeting this season, um, whereneither guy got up, shake,
shaken up, or, you know, therewere no issues whatsoever.

(01:33:54):
This both guys are literallylaying on the field and have to
be helped off the field andneither guy returned to play.
Um, and essentially that's whatmatters.
They got the guys off the field,they protected'em from that
perspective.
Correct.
But from a player safetyperspective, if targeting, if
we're not utilizing targeting toprevent hits like this

(01:34:18):
accidental or not, thentargeting needs to be removed.
Absolutely.
And we, and so like that's, youknow, the roughing, the passer,
that's the targeting thing.
It just shouldn't be a.
we have discussed, and everybodyknows when a target targeting
play deserves ejection.
Correct.
It's very obvious.
These are not No, these are notlike, oh, if, if at any point

(01:34:42):
you hesitate, it doesn't deservean ejection.
And that's the problem.
Um, there's also, because of theplay in the Ohio State game, um,
those, those suspensions,because it's a one half of
football, if you get ejected,would have issues and would
cause potential lineup changesfor those teams in the next game

(01:35:05):
depending on when thosesuspensions were to happen or
when the hits happened.
So, uh, at the end of the OhioState, Georgia game, if the
Georgia guy gets ejected forthat, then goes a half, he's got
a half in the nationalchampionship game, he doesn't
get a play on a play thatwasn't, didn't do anything
wrong.
Right.
So,

Stoy Hall (01:35:24):
and we discussed this, um, just go back to the
helmet, to helmet in spearingrule then, because I get that, I
get the helmet to helmet.
Right.
Fine.
Spearing, which was the oldschool way of like, you lowered
your helmet like a batteringram.
Yeah.
That shouldn't be in the game.
Right, right.
Um, but targeting, targeting isso it's all over the place.

(01:35:45):
Completely subjective.
And injection like injectablethings should not be subjective.
Yeah.
In, in my opinion specifically.
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Share.
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Hey.
Oh, remember this?
This goal shut off back in 2020.
Got brought back up last nightagain.
Brings a smile to my face.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I love it.
One because of the person, buttwo, uh, just because of, you
know, what this attention hasbrought to this.
Um, you know, that that's allyou can hope for at this point.

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Obviously, uh, you know, we'vegot thoughts and prayers for,
uh, the family, uh, the Hamlinfamily, but this is Yep.
You know, 5.1 million from$2,000to 5.1 million, um, in, in less
than 24 hours.
Less than 24

Stoy Hall (01:36:45):
hours.
Yep.
Um, this is what people can dowhen we come together.
Yep,

absolutely.
That's, that's ultimately, sothat's the positive you take out
of it.
Um, it's absolutely

Stoy Hall (01:36:55):
amazing.
I love every part of that.
So we'll have that link.
Don't worry in the description,and it'll be there forever.
Um, thoughts on this.
Back to Iowa, huh?

The freshman transferring?
Yeah.
I mean, so you've got, uh, CadeMcNair coming in.
That's fine.
Uh, from Michigan.
You've got, they, you had a twohorse race going into the bowl
game between, uh, lot Labus, joyLabus, I think is his name.
Oh.
Uh, Carson May, uh, obviouslythis guy didn't win the job.

(01:37:27):
He's got another guy coming inahead of him and the guy that
already beat him out once, sotherefore he is gonna transfer.
Here's the thing, Iowa has onehealthy quarterback going into
spring, fall because their newrecruit coming in, of which I
think they have one and maybe adon't get here until June.
Uhhuh PET is hurt.

(01:37:48):
So is, uh, McNamara is hurt.
Labis just played in the bowlgame and Carson may just
transferred.
They had four guys.
Two of'em are hurt and one of'emjust transferred.
They've got one guy take toplay, play spring ball to play
spring ball, so they're overoverthrow

Stoy Hall (01:38:03):
em.
So you're not gonna do

that?
I mean, are you putting out Idon't, I mean, from a
quarterback perspective, wealways had a lot of quarterbacks
at Drake.
So many, like you always hadfour to eight, especially in
spring ball, right?
And like everybody in springball gets a chance, da, da, da.
Like never having enoughquarterbacks on the rosters
never an issue.

(01:38:25):
You got red shirts everywhere atspring ball, um, and even like
practice squad and stuff likethat, you've got certain guys
that are getting most of thereps type of thing, but like the
guys are there.
The fact that there's gonna beone guy going into spring ball
is the story here to me.
that's bad.
He's gonna take all the raps,all, all the

Stoy Hall (01:38:46):
reps, and then they're gonna bring him.
We're talking about like somehigh school quarterback that is
a receiver has to come in and dostuff.
Right.
Which actually to me hurts youas a, hurts your depth
specifically on defense andoffense.
Mm-hmm.
because they're not getting,they're not getting the looks,
the real

looks because you've got ones and twos usually, and
then you usually have a scoutteam.
Quarterback.
Yeah.
So you usually have three guys.
You've got a fourth guy there incase scout, rotate around, scout
team guy.
Or you might have a guy that'sfast and so on certain weeks
he's gonna fill in on scoutteam.
Yeah.
For the other guy that mightjust be better at the
quarterbacking position,whatever.
So you, you know, you've alwaysgot four guys, not the case.

(01:39:21):
They have a

Stoy Hall (01:39:21):
starter.
They have, they can go

ones they Right.
Which you can go ones and twos.
Like, it's not any differentthan a guy, but you at least
need a second guy to be able togive the defense a look.
So I have no idea.
I don't know.
I haven't looked into like, ifthey have a walk on in the
program, can't wait.
Frog season to wear likesomeone's got, you know,
basketball brings in grayshirts.
Like I was going to have tobring someone in for spring

Stoy Hall (01:39:43):
ball.
Hey, if you're a quarterback andyou wanna look at a top tier,
uh, offense, no offense,defense, uh, university,

you wanna see the number two scoring defense in
the country,

Stoy Hall (01:39:52):
go call Iowa and say, Hey, I'm gonna sling that thing
in spring ball.
Yeah.
Okay.
Hey, may, Hey, maybe not.
You might show out.
Make

sure, make sure you get a Red Jersey.
Yeah, though.
Get a Red Jersey cuz.
Yeah.
That first and foremost becausethey do not treat the scout team
quarterbacks like they treat thefirst and second string
quarterbacks.
Make sure you put it in yourcontract.
You will still get that nil.
Get in there, get yourselfthrough spring ball and then get
out.
Yeah.
Because you'll still

Stoy Hall (01:40:19):
get hit.
Yep.
Save yourself to Misery Gud.
Alright.
Uh, a little, uh, back to thenfl.
And then we'll go college.
And then, then we'll, uh, we'llget into the picks.
Uh, championship week.
Uh, four of the scariestinjuries in NFL history all
happened on the same field.
That's kind of wild.
Yeah.
All in to think about all

in Cincinnati, um, did not realize, I mean, I
didn't know either.
Brown

Stoy Hall (01:40:43):
tell you together.
She's here, obviously Tua nowHamlin, that's kind

of, uh, so we're talking about two of the worst
concussions that we've everseen.
Yep.
Um, paralysis and in death, neardeath.
Death, fish.
Uh, all in the same field.
And you'd like to say anything.
It's the weight team by the way.
And it's, none of these havebeen Bengals players.

(01:41:09):
Uh, two sealers players, aDolphins player and a Bills
player.
Um, so kinda makes, you know,like there's nothing there that
like would show if the, um, thepeople of Cincinnati we didn't
really talk about in the open.
but just an outpouring supportof Graves.

Stoy Hall (01:41:30):
Hundreds of them outside the hospital.
Yeah.
Like it was that

they did it right.
You can tell that they'd beenthere.
Uh, and it's unfortunate, but Imean, maybe that makes a little
more sense now.
Mm-hmm.
um, you know, showing up to thehospital, um, things they did at
the stadium, they turned thelights to blue and white at the
stadium.
Uh, somebody designed a, aBengals, bills like, um, logo

(01:41:55):
that has the colors of bothteams, you know, just, I, I
mean, you know, cool stuff likethat that, um, nobody has to do,
but just that,

Stoy Hall (01:42:02):
you know, we can come together as a human race and
Right.
And, and

be good people.
Absolutely.
And I think this is the lastone, and, uh, the last one I
pulled up was just, uh,basically just a cap off, uh,
kind of college football seasonhere before we get to the, the
playoff is, you know, howeverybody wants to know, you
know, how did my conference do?
Um, and my question for you was,is this at all important to,

(01:42:31):
like in your mind it'sconference records.
It's, it's the records of teamsfrom certain conferences who in
the bowl games and who playedbowl games.
And so the American Conferencewas four and three.
The ACC was five and four, big12, two and six.
But one of those two is in thenational championship game.
Uh, the Big 10 was five andfour.
However, both of theirs lostchances in the playoffs.

(01:42:55):
Very good chances.
Yeah.
To make a national championship,uh, conference USA was three and
three.
Independence were three and twobig ones.
There being b, BYU and NotreDame, both winning, uh, the Mac
Conference Max in four and two.
Best of the year, love to seeit.
Mountain west was three andfour.
Uh, PAC 12, also three and four,but lost their two biggest

(01:43:15):
games.
Um, in New Year.
Six Bulls with Utah and usc,both going down.
S e C ended up six and fiveafter a one in four, one in five
start.
Um, so they finished strong,obviously got their, uh, three
strongest teams in my opinion,being Georgia, Alabama, and
Tennessee.
All with, uh, victories at theend of the season.

(01:43:36):
And the Sunbelt was three andfour.
So, uh, a lot of people will goback and forth.
The biggest thing, and I thinkit just has to stop at this
point with transfer portal andeverything like that, but it
never will because ESPN is theofficial sponsor of the
Southeastern Conference.
Oh, the Southeastern Conferenceis not as dominant?

(01:43:57):
No, as it once was.
I think there was a time inwhich the Southeastern
Conference was uniquely superiorto the rest of college football.
And I'm not saying their verybest athletes aren't.
However, there's parody.
There's parody, and the peoplewho say the middle of the s e C
would destroy any other.

(01:44:19):
It's just not factual, it's justnot true.
Um, we watched it, uh, I'vewatched it now for enough years
consecutively to, you're justbias at this point with no f
you're not bringing anything tothe table factual, um, about
that.
I mean, y you look at Tennesseeand they dominated in Alabama,

(01:44:40):
dominated and that's fine, butyou want to go look at, you
know, Missouri, you want to golook at South Carolina who lost
a Notre Dame?
You want Kentucky?
Kentucky who didn't scoreagainst point, didn't score
against Iowa.
Um, you know, Mississippi Statesurvived 13 to Illinois, 10
against Illinois.
Um, you know, yeah.
Those types of things is like,that's the middle of the s e c

(01:45:02):
competing perfectly fine withthe rest of America.
Quick shout out.
Mississippi State got broughtup.
Oh yeah.
Uh, Mike Leach, that wasawesome.
Um, we talked about Pass Wade,and they did an awesome, uh
mm-hmm.
you know, homage to him with thepirate flag on the, the helmet.
And a couple of different teamsdid, uh, um, basically
remembrance plays type of thingwhere the other team, um,

(01:45:25):
declined the penalty.
So that was cool.
Uh, I didn't realize Mike Leachwas one win short of 600 for his
career, which is the qualifyingshit.
I didn't know that number forthe coaching Hall of fame.
And so the hope is that MikeLeach will get the honorary.

(01:45:45):
uh, in the bowl game.
And that will no doubt if theydon't, you know, put him into
the coaching hall of fame ifthey don, I, I don't see that
not happening.
But, um, that was something neatthat I too fair.
He's a Hall of fame coach.

Stoy Hall (01:45:58):
Learned today regard.
I didn't know.
Regardless.
I didn't know 600 was a trigger,by the way, but he changed the
game.
Like that's a hall of fame coachme.
Hundred percent.
A hundred percent.

I

Stoy Hall (01:46:06):
say, yeah.
That just goes to back to whatyou, you, you had asked the
question of like, what does thisdo for me?
Mm-hmm.
I like seeing this because Ilike to see the parody in it.
Right.
Um, you might want to starttaking those.
I love

seeing the parody.
I think I'm only taking onesince you screwed up the sheet,
but,

Stoy Hall (01:46:21):
well, I mean, you still lost both.

Um, according to you, I never

Stoy Hall (01:46:25):
saw it.
I, we can roll the tape and goback.
That's fine.
If we have to, fine.
If we have to.
Um, I love seeing the parodyhere.
Uh, there's not one dominantconference except for the Mac,
obviously at four and two.
Uh, but really this is what wewant to see.
This is how it should be.
There should, there's just not adominant conference.
Right?
Doesn't matter.
Um, regardless if you think thetransfer portal or who plays,

(01:46:46):
who doesn't play right there.
There's parody in collegefootball.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And we're seeing it from, we sawit in the semi-finals all down
and that's what we want to see.
So.
Alright, well let's get into itthen.
Let's get into the College ofFootball.

Um, national Championship.

Stoy Hall (01:47:05):
National

Championship next Monday.

Stoy Hall (01:47:07):
So it will be, let me, let me get some good music
going here before we.
And by music I

mean,

Stoy Hall (01:47:35):
there it is.
Oh, someone came out andactually we were on the other
screen.
We should have realized that,but, uh oh or bad.
Um, we actually had someone inour chat for the first time.
Do you know that guy?
I can't, I can't, I can't reallysee it.
But let's, uh, let's break down.

(01:47:55):
Dak Prescott's Misreads.
I watched a video about Dak notknowing how to read defenses
properly and makes high schoolquarterback mistakes constantly.
Yeah, Dak does, likes tomisreads.
What can you say about thatquarterback?

Um, I think there's something to that.
Um, I think there's something toDak trying to play within a
system at Dallas where he's notallowed to be Mahomes or Rogers

(01:48:33):
or anything like that for thebetterment of the Dallas
Cowboys, but also like that'sthe difference in levels.
like Dak is not a top tierquarterback because of a full
understanding of those things.
And whether that's naturalability in combination with
awareness, you know, like Maddenhas the awareness thing.

(01:48:56):
And I think at times when you'rewatching the Cowboys, it, it
feels like Mahomes has thetiming and the awareness and
like those factors, the itfactor, if you will, where Dak
can make plays throughout agame, but you're always a little
on edge of whether, you know,are we gonna make the big play
at the big time or are we gonnamake the big mistake at the big

(01:49:16):
time?
And, you know, those are thedifferences to me.
Um, but I think that, you know,if spec, like specifically this
year, if you go watch Mahomes,Alan Dak, any of those guys, all
of those, and not to put Dak inwith those two guys, but like
those two guys specifically haveturned the ball over in the red

(01:49:39):
zone and more so at times whereyou would not expect it than
they have in any other years intheir career.
That's true.
Now their teams are still verysuccessful because of things
that they can also do to bringtheir team back and at the end
of games to close games.
But we're seeing a little bitmore of that, um, as well as, as
teams get.

(01:49:59):
Used to, uh, those quarterbacksand what they can do to kind of
bait them into things and stufflike that.
Um, I think that there's a statlast night before, uh, at the
beginning of that Bill's Bengalsgame where Josh Allen had four
red zone picks.
I mean, it's one thing to have,you know, four picks is four
picks, but red, he also had fourfumbles in the red zone.

(01:50:20):
Only one was lost.
But the fact that he put theball eight different times they
were in the red zone.
So pretty much you're guaranteedthree points, um, eight
different times he put, he tookpoints away or potentially took
points away from his team.
You know, only five times ofthat happened, but, uh, so
that's happening more.
Mm-hmm.
in the nfl, but with Dak, um,you know, missing reeds and

(01:50:44):
stuff like that.
I mean, there's an, there's alot of, you'd be surprised how
many quarterbacks in the NFLaren't as knowledgeable with
reeds as some guys that haveplayed at the collegiate level.
And some guys, like, there's areason that certain people coach

(01:51:07):
and certain people play, andwhen you get the knowledge of
two, that's when you getgreatness.
Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, uh,Patrick Mahomes.
When those two things cancombine, that's when you get
greatness.
Then when Peyton Manning, um,you know, when you can coach
yourself on the field andwhether that's again, a feel
athleticism thing.

(01:51:28):
with the knowledge versus, Hey,I'm really smart and I know what
I'm seeing.
However, my body doesn't let medo it at an elite level, whether
it be scalability or, um, youknow, just having that half
second twitch one way or theother, and then, or arm

(01:51:49):
strength, right.
For that matter.
Like, I saw it but I couldn'tthrow it, type of thing.
Yeah.
Um, that's, that's the big thingI think that, that comes with
Dak is that, yeah, there's timeswhere he locks in on receiver
and, you know, I'm going to CDLiam, or I'm going to my tight
end and it's like, oh, did youlook at the other side of the
field where he had one-on-oneand the guy blew a coverage?

(01:52:11):
Probably happens a little bitmore, but it happens to
everyone.
Um, just because you're, you'reso locked into certain things
and maybe what you saw on filmand then the defense gave you a
wrinkle or anything like that.
But yeah, I would definitely saythat it happens to Dak more than
it happens to those other guys.

Stoy Hall (01:52:27):
I'll just do attest that the, the defense knows
these things too.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, so they're gonna do thingsto make the read harder.
Like it's not just all.
again, but if, if that's hisweakness, I don't know Dak that
well in terms of his game, ifthat's his weakness, teams are
gonna do a lot more to make thatharder.

(01:52:48):
So.
Right.
Good point

there.
Uh, because the big thing is, islike, so if Dak is showing lack
true Hebrew Yeah.
Um, is d if Dak is showing thosethings, like you said, they're
gonna disguise coverages more,try to do more with blitz
packages, stuff like that.
Whereas like Mahomes, Brady,Rogers are really good against
the blitz for multiple reasons.
One, they have elite guys onreceiving levels.

(01:53:09):
Um, they've practiced it a lot.
And also if you're trying todisguise something, that means
that you're out of position atthe point of disguise because
you are showing something thatyou don't want to be in.
So if they figure out what itis, you're screwed.
You're screwed.
And that's why teams don'tdisguise against them, therefore
making the game easier for thembecause they've taken your

(01:53:33):
strength and made it yourweakness.
And therefore, oh shit, we can'tblitz.
Oh shit, we can't disguisebecause we can't get our guys
where they need to.
We just need to make themmatriculate the ball down the
field.
And as you see Tom Brady thisyear, Mahomes, when he's
struggled is when you make thoseguys just make the simple plays,

(01:53:54):
sometimes it's hard for thembecause they're so used to being
able to make the defense make amistake and find a guy wide
open, bring a blitz, leave aguy.
that sometimes it's the verysimple throws in the very simple
plays that they struggle withthe most, because that's not
when they're at their best,they're at their best in two

(01:54:14):
minute drill.
They're at their best when incrunch time.
They're at the best whensomebody's at their feet, like,
right.

Stoy Hall (01:54:20):
And it has to be frustrating also.
Mm-hmm.
as a quarterback to just bealways, always ding and dunking.
A hundred percent.
It has to be when you're thatskilled, right?
Like when you know, I can, I canjust go throw a, a bomb if I
really wanted to.
And the defense is saying, no,no, no, no, no, we're just gonna
do this.
But also, I think key to all ofthat is inside pressure.
So you have to do that, but youhave to be able to have some

(01:54:41):
type of pressure, otherwise theycan just pick you apart a
hundred

percent.
Um, so, but if you look at Iowa,like that's why Iowa is
successful in college football.
One, you don't play as manyelite quarterbacks, Iowa makes
you go down the field.
And if you can stay disciplined,just, just be b plus type of
grade out, throw a five yardhitch, throw a five yard hitch,

(01:55:05):
run for four yards, throw a fiveyard hitch, hit a curl, hit a
guy in the middle of the field,go down the field, 10, 8, 10, 12
plays, and you're willing to dothat.
You can beat Iowa's defensebecause they are, they're
showing you absolutely nothingother than we're gonna run cover
three.
We're gonna run cover four,we're gonna run cover two.
There's, there's no, but what dothey do?
Well, they tackle well and theywill keep the ball in front of

(01:55:28):
them.
And as you can attest ondefense, if you can do.
You are gonna drive teams crazybecause offensive coordinators
and, and quarterbacks for themost part, are not patient
people.
They want the splash play.
They want the gotcha play.
And if you don't allow that,it's frustrating.
And then they'll try to get youand that's why.

(01:55:50):
And then, and then you get apicture sitting crazy.
Correct.
Yep.
Yep.
So yes, very thanks for bringingthat up.
Uh, appreciate the feedbackthere.
Yeah, absolutely.

Stoy Hall (01:55:59):
Look at us.
Get in a chat.
Woo woo.
Oh, that, you know, wasn't yourwife, so we're good.
Hey.
Yeah.
Hey, look at us.
Uh, college football, that'swhat you think.
College football.
TCU Georgia line is, uh, 13 anda half.
I, I guess I didn't, I'll I'lldouble check real quick.
Um, but that's what it was priorto,

it opened close just to 15 and it came down pretty
quick.
But I don't know that it everwent lower than 13 and a half.
I

Stoy Hall (01:56:25):
mean, it could be because it's 13 and a half.
Like that's just, it's anational championship game.
Let's mm-hmm.
what are we doing here?
Peeps?
Uh, let's see.
13 and a half.
Money's on TCU heavy.
And 62 and a half still.
So here we are.
Here we sit.
Here we sit.
I'm going

to not too many injuries.
Um, not gonna remember his name,but the big tight end for
Georgia, uh, is banged up, butit looks like he's most likely
gonna find a way to play.
Yeah.
Um, I don't know of any TCUinjuries.

(01:57:02):
That I really heard of.
No, I haven't, I haven't heardof.
So, um, relatively healthy, bothteams coming in, no suspensions
or anything like that.
Um, I mean really it's a, it's,it's, the problem is it's a home
Duggan, it's a home game forGeorgia.

Stoy Hall (01:57:19):
Yep.
Sure is.
Sure shit is.
Um,

which I mean I just have a problem with in general,
however, um, it just kind of iswhat it is from that
perspective.
George has been here, obviouslynational champions from last
year.
TCU has never been on a stagelike this, didn't seem to do
anything, uh, with Michigan.
Uh, my problem is that George ison a different level from a

(01:57:49):
respect standpoint than Michiganis.
Um, Michigan hadn't been thereeither, and Michigan got cocky.
Mm-hmm.
and now I don't know if, ifMichigan getting cocky is what
cost them that game.
Um, but I know that TCUspecifically had a chip fr four
from Michigan.

(01:58:10):
Um, going into that game, uh,there was a couple of different,
um, news clipping moments orTwitter moments of guys just
being arrogant, um, for Michiganthat, uh, I think adds a little
chip to tcu.
Not gonna make that mistake.

(01:58:31):
Kirby Smart won't let thathappen.
Uh, says you're gonna getnothing but respect quotes from
Georgia this week.
Absolutely.
So you're just not gonna havethat with tcu.

Stoy Hall (01:58:39):
It'll be

very professional week.
13 and a half is a ton ofpoints, uh, for a team that has
only lost in double overtime orovertime, whatever it was, uh,
one game this year and who hasdone nothing but been nothing
short of elite in fourthquarters, uh, in closing games,

(01:59:00):
uh, regardless of how far theywere down or how far they were
up.
Mm-hmm.
throughout, uh, any of the gamesthat they played this year.
I just, I don't see away thatGeorgia loses this game though.

Stoy Hall (01:59:17):
No.
Nope.
No.
I mean, I agree.
Um, it, uh, 13 and a half mightbe, might be a lot.
Although I can see it not TCUcoming back late that that'll
probably be the backdoor coveron it.
But Georgia, Georgia's notMichigan.
Oh no.
Um, Kirby Smart and this teambeing defending champs know what

(01:59:42):
it takes.
They're not gonna do a Michiganthing and go away from
themselves.
They're not gonna run trickplace.
No.
Uh, both offensive anddefensively.
Mm-hmm.
they're gonna say, Let's lineup.
Right?
We are better than you.
Mm-hmm.
And they are better than tcu.
Yeah.

Um, TCU has picked fifth in the Big 12.
Yeah.
Dug.
And their quarterback was theirbackup quarterback going into
the year.
And hey, that's how improbableTCU being here is.
He has the, and they've earnedevery right to be here.
They have, don't get me wrong,

Stoy Hall (02:00:14):
they have, I just, however, they're not gonna win
this game.
I, I don't

disagree.
Are they going to cover the 13and a half?

Stoy Hall (02:00:22):
But that's, that's the, are that's the
conversation.
The conversation's, not who'sgonna win the championship?
Are you,

are you wanting to have that conversation or do you
want to go to the total?
Let's go, let's go total first.
All right.
Okay.
You're not comfortable havingthat conversation.
Not look at hold.

Stoy Hall (02:00:35):
You get a little, you are moving around a seen stuff.
Um, you can go, we can go to thetotal

low total 62 and a

Stoy Hall (02:00:41):
half.
62 half kinda low.
Big number, kinda low bignumber, kinda low last two games
we just watched.
Yeah.

Um, I mean, we just watched 96 and 83

Stoy Hall (02:00:51):
points, which is why I don't understand why the
total's so low if the spread'sso big.
You know what I mean?
Like, we just watched a wholebunch of points.
How did that not get take intoaccount?

I agree.
I, I'm, I'm Overall

Stoy Hall (02:01:04):
day.
Yeah, absolutely.
Georgia themselves are gonnascore 35, 40 right.
and yeah, they might, even ifthey do blow out tcu, it's

TCU is not going to stop playing in a national
championship game.
Even if Georgia does a littlebit.
It can.

Stoy Hall (02:01:18):
Yeah.
The only thing is is, isGeorgia's defense absolutely
gonna shut down everything TCUhas from a scheme

level.
And I just don't see it becauseI don't see that TCU has a top
10 receiver and two other guysthat can play and running back
in quarterback that are justtough dudes.
They are.

Stoy Hall (02:01:37):
Unless Georgia can absolutely their front.
Uh, four, even seven Absolutelyjust rolls.

But even if they do for two quarters or, or three
quarters, like that's still 21points in a quarter for a team
that TCS completely out of it'sscoring

Stoy Hall (02:01:50):
20 to 30.
Yeah, they're scoring 30 points.
Like that's what they'rescoring.
Right.

Georgia and Georgia might score

Stoy Hall (02:01:56):
60.
Georgia's just gonna outpacethat.
Like there's

no way around that.
No, I just, and I don't evenknow that they're scoring 60,
but like, no, 45 to 30, they'rescoring 40, 45 to 30 is a 75
point.
Like I just don't see it beingany

Stoy Hall (02:02:08):
less than that.
No, the total's low.
I don't understand that.
Yep.
Someone fixed that.
Don't fix it.
Take the money right now.
Let's go put it off.
Take it over.
Over.
All right.
Oh, 13 and a half.
So it's, you know, twotouchdowns.
So this game's gonna go, TCUsprobably gonna come out punch,

(02:02:28):
they'll probably score the firstdrive.
Georgia will come down, tie itup.
It's gonna be 77 first twodrives, maybe three drives.
then there'll be turnovers.
Georgia's gonna get up by 21 atsome point.
When that 21 happens as key, isit 21 late in the fourth?

(02:02:49):
If it's late in the fourth, theycover 14.
If it's 21 and the third, tcsgonna at least score a touchdown
or two coming in.
Mm-hmm.
if this was at 10, I'm taking it13 and a half.
Tough.
That's tough.
Your thoughts before we makepicks?

Um, my thoughts are neither team is stopping playing
Stetson Bennett's playing in hislast college football game.
Okay.
They're not taking StetsonBennett up, out up any number.
I mean, it, it would have to befour scores.
Yeah.
And so therefore a junktouchdown, but like late for and

(02:03:33):
like what's behind Stetson beenin at Georgia another five star.
So like if they want to just runthe ball or whatever, but like
they're running backs also theirbest player and they're pretty
good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like if they're dominating TCthat much, I just don't start, I
don't see them stop stopping thedomination.
I don't think it's gonna bedominating.

(02:03:54):
I personally don't think it'sgonna be dominating in that way.
I just think that overallthey're just going to be the
better team for four quarters.
And even if that's three pointsa quarter, that's 12 points.
And I don't really see eitherteam trying to kick field goals.
No.

(02:04:14):
So does Georgia win 14.7?
14.7?
They're up 28, 14 at halftimecome out, they're up to 35, 14.
There's your 21 and now, nowwhat?
What

Stoy Hall (02:04:31):
happens?
And I'm saying with zeroturnovers, like that's, that's
how I'm

tracking is zero turnovers.
So it's 35, 14 going in thesecond half and you've got
Georgia's getting turnover, andthen, you know, does Geor, so
Georgia goes up 42 14.
Then what?
And then now you've got do geton the comeback trail, they get
it to, you know, 42, 31.
Now Georgia goes down and putsthe nail in the coffin.

(02:04:57):
49 31.
Does Duggan have one lastdrive-in and the cover,

Stoy Hall (02:05:02):
that's what it comes down to.
It really is gonna come downdesert and we're at 80 points
again.
So if the thing, if it goesunder, I'd be shocked.
Yeah.
Oh, I agree.
And if it goes under, it'sbecause TCU didn't score right?
Not because Georgia, you know,didn't score.
Right.
I don't, yeah, I don'tunderstand that.
Um, and I just don't, I justdon't see that happening.
So, ah, Georgia's

covered.
Take my boy Max to figure itout.
All right.

Stoy Hall (02:05:31):
All right.
The Iowa kid.
Um, I can't hate it.

I can't hate on it.
I was, to be fair, I was goingthe exact opposite of whatever
you did.
So I wasn't goon locking withyou in the national championship
game.
I mean,

Stoy Hall (02:05:45):
we could, we could have thought of a different side
bet for a shitty shot, but like,

okay.
Absolutely not.
I, uh, just going opposite ofyou, I'm gonna wrap back.
I can make the argue argument onboth sides.
Um, I talked myself into bothduring our conversation, so I
was fine with whichever side youwe'll end with Georgia.
Tcu.
There it is, Georgia.
Um, going back to back tonational championship

(02:06:10):
predictions.
I believe we both had Georgia,um, at the beginning of the
year, year

Stoy Hall (02:06:14):
overall, you that we do have that I did not delete.
Um, did we even do that?
No.
Final four should be down.
No, that's nfl.
I don't, we don't even think wegot, I think we just did the
four.
Oh, yikes.
I would've put Georgia on thenational, on the Naty.

(02:06:35):
Wow.
Yeah.
Hmm.
I, wow.
We'll get to it.
We'll get to that fl, but I'mnot, I got two.
How do, how many you got stillalive?
Three.
Hey.
Although one should be dead.
Dead to the world anyways,that's most, that is bad.
Um, here we are.

I mean, that's not, that's not good None of'em are.
No they're not.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Georgia.
So yeah, I mean, I think, uh, Ithink these were our national we
put, we did, so three of us hadGeorgia and one had been for the
national championship, so.
All right.
Um, nfl, nfl, little n f NFLlove.

(02:07:17):
Well come to us on Saturday thisweek.
Absolutely will.
Um, so the Bills Bengals hasbeen canceled for this week as
it should be.
There is a p potential, uh, asthey're leaving it open, that
that game gets played at somepoint.
I don't know when the hell are,they would play play.
Why would you just tie, why'dend it in a tie?
Yeah.
So there's gonna tie worldbefore next week.

(02:07:39):
We will know what is going tohappen with that game, but that
is going to have as we get toour playoff predictor, um, that
will definitely have, um, animpact on what, what goes on,
um, as we get there.
But, uh, game picks first.
Um, first game will be, um,Tennessee

Stoy Hall (02:08:06):
and I don't, I don't know if I put those
Jacksonville.
I don't know if I put those inactual order of game play.

Yeah, that's the Saturday game.
Okay, good.
Um, cuz there's only two gameson Saturday this week.
I think least from one I cansee.
There's only two games onSaturday.
Um, so the first one is ChiefsRaiders, um, which we won't talk
about or pick, but Chiefs, ifthey win, will secure the one

(02:08:33):
seed.
If the Bills Bengals game is notplayed or if it's determined to
be a tie.
Yeah.
Um, the Chiefs will take the oneseed, um, because of the tie.
Uh, so there's a lot ofdiscussion around that.
Um,

Stoy Hall (02:08:44):
so I had a discussion with the barber today about
that.
Like he's saying, well, thebills are gonna play even harder
this week.
I don't think the Bills care atthe one seat at this point.

Yeah.
I mean that's that mentally

Stoy Hall (02:08:56):
Right.
Obviously they care.
Right.
Depending on how this week, Imean, plays out.

Why, here's my question, I guess from that,
from that conversation is the,the bills don't care about the
one seed, but then like thebills are playing for, for
somebody.
Correct.
But are they playing forsomebody in the playoffs or are
they playing for somebody inweek 18?

Stoy Hall (02:09:17):
And that's, that was, that was was morning period.
That was my point too.
That's exactly what I said.
I said they don't know enough ofthe outcome of hi of DeMar yet.
Mm-hmm.
if today, tomorrow comes outthat he's good, he can return to
the team, you know, he mighteven be cleared to play in the
championship.

(02:09:37):
That'll trigger them to go now.
Mm-hmm.
if it takes until next week,week after then, then then
playing in the playoffs for, uh,a championship is the trigger
for them.
I don't think they're gonna haveenough information at this
point.
They're still mourning.
Why, why go out there if you'renot a hundred percent like we
talked about.

(02:09:58):
Mm-hmm.
mentally ready.
Yeah.
What's the point?
They're in the playoffs.
No, I, they don't care wherethey play.
Mm-hmm.
Agree.
They can beat anybody.
Yeah.
So that's where, that's why Iwas at with it.
So you're right.
Um, but Tennessee, Jacksonville,this is, I had this game of the
week

because it, Tennessee Jacksonville for a
playoff spot.
Um, this matters, dare I say,the worst or most deflating,
deflated team in the NFL versusthe hottest team in the nfl.
Definitely in their ownconference.

Stoy Hall (02:10:29):
Oh, what's in their own a hundred percent.
But

Jacksonville, there's not a lot of teams that
have been playing betterfootball in Jacksonville, not at
all.
Um, including their quarterback,um, who seemed to figure things
out with Doug Peterson in, atthe helm by damn time.
But I mean, it just goes a longways.
And this is gonna be a littlebit, uh, outside of the game
pick, but like coaching andplacement of a quarterback,

(02:10:52):
specifically in the N F L.
Now, every position, uh,depending on where you get
drafted matters, but likequarterback is so important who
you get paired with, um, in, inthe scheme that you're put in.
And it's why Brock Purdy's beenso successful in San Francisco
with Kyle Shanahan.
And people can say what theywant.
But Trey Lance wasn'tsuccessful.
Like Brock Purdy has been sameoffense in the, in the exact

(02:11:15):
same offense.
Garoppolo wasn't as successful.
I mean, he, he more, he hasbeen, he has been.
Um, but like still, well the,the Garoppolo Purdy is way
closer than the Gar or than thePurdy Lance.
And Lance is a differentquarterback though, because
Lance, he was going to run more,he's more of an athlete.
But he, he doesn't do all of thethings that Purdy allows.

(02:11:36):
Purdy allows for all of theirbest players to get the ball in
different ways, whereas Lancebecomes one of those guys.
So it's one way, one less guy.
It also, it's one less or fiveless.
Carries pur for Christian

Stoy Hall (02:11:51):
McCaffrey.
She hands offense so

perfectly.
It's, it's why GU designed was

Stoy Hall (02:11:56):
good in it though.
It's

designed to give the ball around, not for you.
Cause you don't want the ball ingar Groo's hands and you don't
want the ball in Purdy's hands.
You want the ball in ChristianMcCaffrey's hands and Debo
Samuel's hands.
And Brandon i's hands, like inGeorge Kittles hands.
Yeah.
Specifically in George kid'shands.
Who the Iyo, Iowa Stateconnection has been hot,
unbelievable hot since Purdystarted with him.
Right.
But um, anyways, that's just, soyeah.

(02:12:17):
Tennessee is starting a guy whowas on a Detroit practice squad
two weeks ago, but it, whoplayed well against the Cowboys.
Slightly bummer for,

Stoy Hall (02:12:26):
I mean that kind of sucks.
Yeah.
Uh, but it is what it is.

Um, so Tennessee going to Jacksonville,
Jacksonville's six and a halfpoint favorites.
39.
Nine and a half.
39 and a half is the, um,Jacksonville wins the game.
I think my biggest thing is 39and a half's too low.
Uh, I watched Dobbs play.
Mm-hmm.
They are not scared to, like, ifyou can play that well in a half

(02:12:53):
a week and own the playbook, youcan play that.
Well

Stoy Hall (02:12:56):
see, this is my problem though.
In division games inJacksonville, it's usually low.
No, I don't disagree with

that's, that's where I'm at.
And Jacksonville plays well athome.
They do.
We're

Stoy Hall (02:13:05):
we're both on Jacksonville here.
Yeah.
We think Jacksonville's won thegame.
Here's the thing, I love seeingthem in the playoffs.
Love it.

Jacksonville does not have the experience that
Tennessee does from a coaching.
I shouldn't say that.
Mm-hmm.
from a coaching in a playoffsperspective, coaching a, an
experience team into theplayoffs.
Doug Peterson's been into theplayoffs, don't get me wrong,
but he's coaching a differentteam, but he's coaching a very
hungry team and a team that'sbeen playing extremely well with

(02:13:30):
a shit ton of talent on it.
can they got talent.
So we're both takingJacksonville.
Yeah, absolutely.
Um, to me, I feel more confidentbecause they're at home.
I would still pick them atTennessee, but I feel more
confident because they'reAbsolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
Uh, six and a half is a lot ofpoints for this.
39 and a half to me is thebiggest thing.
I'm taking the over on thisgame.

(02:13:50):
Okay.
Um, I think Dobbs, uh, again,Tennessee's, both teams are
playing for their playoff wives.
They're not going to be carefulwith anything.
And so therefore, I thinkJacksonville continues to be
able to score like they havebeen.
And I think Tennessee will openit up more.
Um, also you have Derrick Henrywho can possibly be dominant,

(02:14:13):
but if they're able to do both,um, I think both teams will
score a little bit in this game.
I think this is a high twentiesfor each team type of game.

Stoy Hall (02:14:19):
So what's tough about this is, and, and I'll revert
back to what I did last weekwith the Dallas, uh, Titans
game.
And by the way, I went back tothe film, I called the exact
final score.
Huh?
Didn't know that.
But when I was doing the clip, Iwent, ah, got it.
But I went the opposite of whaton the over under for, but I was
talking about your score andRight.

(02:14:40):
And he said this is what'sprobably gonna happen.
Ah, ended up being the exactscore, by the way.
And I think this is, I'm goingthe other way too, is I believe
it's got, I mean, they're bothgetting 20, right?
So we gotta go over mm-hmm.
but I also could see being 20 to17.
Yeah.
Right.
Um, at the end of the day.
But it's gonna go overJacksonville's hot Tennessee.
Um, Whit Dobbs is playing welland I think it's something that

(02:15:04):
Jacksonville doesn't have enoughtime to really prepare overly
for.
It's a different quarterback.
Right.
Same scheme, but littledifferent.
So I'm gonna go over there.
Uh, it's a division game for achance of playoffs.

Six and a half.
Too many points.
Absolutely.
I'm not going locking this.
Isn't Why Jacksonville againsteverything I just said?
Dobbs is going to re, he's goingto come back to the mean a
little bit this week.
Okay.
Uh, in Jacksonville.

(02:15:36):
That's true.
And everybody loves to playDallas so Yeah.
Yeah.
Jacksonville just cares more.
Um, bucks.
Falcons.
Falcons minus four in ameaningless game.
They're already locked into.
So the four seed,

Stoy Hall (02:15:54):
um, this opened up as four and a half Brady's

plane.
That doesn't mean I don't, Idon't know what they're doing.

Stoy Hall (02:16:02):
Why, why would, I don't know.
It's a, it's higher.
Uh, why would that be the case?
Why would

Brady play?
I have no idea.
So I right it, it's four and ahalf

Stoy Hall (02:16:13):
now.
Yeah, it went to four when I, itwas at four and a half.
And then when I did this, likewithin 30 minutes went to four.
Now it's back at four and ahalf.
Still 40 and a half.
Um, yeah, I, I, I don't know howwe're getting four and a half
points unless they're stillthinking Brady's not playing the
whole game.
I mean, that's gotta be thething in this.
However, although the bucksaren't that good, like they're

(02:16:36):
not, no, they're

not that great anyway.
Um, well the only reason theywere good last week is cuz
Carolina, Brett

Stoy Hall (02:16:41):
let them win.
Let just let them win.
Yeah.
Mike, Mike Evans was by

himself just three times run down the field.
Three.
I don't understand.
It was baffling to me.
So it's the only way they losethat game.
Yes.
Um, that, that's what makes usAnd the Falcons aren't going to
let that happen.
No.
So that's what makes this onetough.
I'm taking your falcons.

Stoy Hall (02:17:02):
I am too.
That's the last game thisseason.
We're ride till we die riding.
And I'm gonna take it on thespread, but I want everyone to
know Do you want them to win?
Huh?
It, we, this is, so, uh, as weget into playoffs, which comes
into the draft picks, um, we'resitting at seven.
Mm-hmm.
I'm pretty sure we can't getworse than nine.
Okay.
So, and the best we can get issix.
Gotcha.

Play the game.
We're locked in.
Play the game.
Okay.

Stoy Hall (02:17:24):
Play the damn game.
Win the game.
Yeah, that's fine.
Let your quarterback get

hot still.
Like is there any pride in thebucks as far as like nine and
eight, verse eight and nine?
To me there is, but I'm sure

Stoy Hall (02:17:33):
there's incentives for the coach for winning season
winning record.
I'm sure there's otherincentives.
I mean, it's week 18, we'regetting an incentive play.
No, I get it.
I, I would assume plan, I wouldassume that Bucks are way behind
on their incentives.
Yeah.
Uh,

based on, they're so far behind the,

Stoy Hall (02:17:50):
I would assume they are.
And if Brady said he's playing,cuz he wants to get in a rhythm.
Right.
Which they have not been in.
I don't even care last

week that they're getting into a rhythm this week.
But, hey, maybe I'm

Stoy Hall (02:18:01):
wrong.
No, but, um, no, I'm riding theland the whole way.
Right.
Till we die, I'm going under.

Really?
Huh?
I mean, week 18 I don't like it,but I don't like, like if the
bucks play.
That's the strength.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (02:18:17):
I mean it's, it's stronger.
Let's

not put strength out there.
Well, I mean, they've won,they're gonna win their division
and the only reason they've wontheir division is not their
offense.
you.
Okay.
That's fair.
And Hunts Fair.
So I'm gonna lean on the unit.
Okay.
That won them to division.
As unfortunate as it is, um,they scored less than 20 points
multiple times this year in wonfootball games.
Gotta be over half.

(02:18:40):
Has to be.
Yep.
Um, and Ritter's still playingfor the Falcons, um, hasn't
shown worse tendencies oranything like that, but still
isn't putting up 250 yardsmm-hmm.
in the air or anything likethat.
Um, which is how you have tobeat the bucks is through the

(02:19:00):
air.
You're not gonna beat'em on theground.
Um, and I just don't, I don'tsee'em being able to score
unless the Bucks don't havethey're starters in mm-hmm.
and are just not playing hard.
But with Brady playing, thattells me that they're at least
playing for somethinginternally.
And so therefore, I mean, 40 anda half is not a lot of points.

(02:19:24):
Nope.
That's what I'm going over.
And I mean, the more I talkabout, the more I, I don't like
it.
But um, yeah, that's where thatgame That's right.
Looks for me.
Right.
Um, I'll, I'll take the under.
Spread four and a half.

Stoy Hall (02:19:43):
Oh, I'm just gonna ride with them.
I don't, I don't really, I don'treally like it.
That's a lot of points.
Um, I'm, I'm with, with Bradyplaying.
It's a lot of points.
So take the, I'm

gonna ride over just in case they really want this.
18.
What else?
Six Beth?
Uh, sixth draft pick instead ofthe ninth.
What's the worst case?
One These guys, uh, Dallas,Washington, uh, Dallas.
Playing for the one seed.
This game is played at nfl.
Dallas.
Dallas.
Dallas.

Stoy Hall (02:20:12):
Where you at?
Where you at?
Where you at?
Where you at?
What at?

Oh five and a half now.
Five and a half.
L huh?
Alright.
Oh, we didn't have any number onthere before, so, eh, to be
fair, right?
I don't know what happened.
Um, Washington out of theplayoffs, um, the heck knows who
they're gonna start.
Um, Dallas playing for the oneseed, and I'll just take Dallas

(02:20:40):
across the board here.
And the over under on this gameis 41 and a half.
Dallas is playing at 3 25.
Eagles are also playing at thesame time.
So Dallas has to play.
I'll take the over They sure do.

(02:21:01):
Yeah.
Over as well.
Yep.
And they're gonna win.
Good squatting it or goodlocking it.
You betcha

Stoy Hall (02:21:07):
go, because I ain't scared like you trying to get
away from our damn goon locks.
I wast scared.
You did it twice.
Like you, he like, I'm purposelygoing against,

I mean, it's not like we've been good at goon
locking.
Hey,

Stoy Hall (02:21:20):
it's been better this season.
Yeah.
Now, uh, this, so I'm kind ofmixing some things here with the
scheduling.
Yeah.
I think this is

horseshit.
This is completely, I don'tcomplete and

Stoy Hall (02:21:35):
utter, I do not understand what we're talking
about is the Detroit Bay gotflexed real quick.
Real quick.

Go ahead.
The NFL does not schedule anyweek 18 games because they don't
want a team to play and knowthat they're in or out
beforehand in week 18 becausethey want

Stoy Hall (02:21:58):
more money.

They want games to be games.
They completely have control ofthe scheduling in 18, in week
18.
So any game is a flex game.
Any game.
Understand that when we talkabout this, this isn't like one
Oh, they had to choose betweenthis and this.
The NFL schedules week 18 afterweek 17.
This is a debacle.
Whoever's running NFL schedulingis an absolute dip.

(02:22:22):
Shit.
They

Stoy Hall (02:22:22):
do this to get the packers in like d and

I'm a co conspiracy.
Tell me theory to the top.
Well, you know, Dan Campbell'snot going to let the Packers in.
No, but I'm saying there's lessincentive.
What the hell?
So if, so, Seattle plays theRams at 3 26 on Sunday.
Now the Rams aren't good.
The Rams are not good.
That's fine.
They would have no, like, wewould pick Seattle.

(02:22:46):
We'd pick Seattle to coverwhatever the number is.
If Seattle wins Detroit's out,Detroit cannot make the
playoffs.
So Detroit is then playing tomake sure to capture the
packers.
Don't make the playoffs if thePackers win.

(02:23:09):
They are in.
However, if the Rams were tobeat Seattle somehow, and the
the lions were to win, the lionsare in by knowing the result of
the Seattle LA game and notplaying those games at the same
time.
This is where we have our issue.

(02:23:31):
This game should have beenplayed at the same time.
The Tennessee Jacksonville gameis a one v one matchup being
played on Saturday evening,should

Stoy Hall (02:23:39):
Sunday night

a hundred percent that you can move any other game
too.
Not to mention

Stoy Hall (02:23:45):
Tennessee's coming off a, a

Thursday night, but the problem is, is the reason
that they're doing this is thatthey're putting the Tennessee
Jacksonville game.
In a spotlighted game, being onSaturday night because it's,
they just need to move thegames, just move the games and
play both the Saturday games asthe Lions Packers and Seattle

(02:24:08):
Rams, and then move everythingelse down.
So, I mean, stupid, they'reseemingly easy answers that, uh,
are not being answered, um,correctly by the N nfl.
Uh, as it were.
Again, a lot of seatings stillup for grabs.
Um, a lot will be unknown untilthat Bengals Bills game on the

(02:24:29):
AFC side, the NFC side,everything's still up for grabs
on the NFC side.
If the Eagles win, that kind ofputs everything to bed as far as
the one seed and everything elsekind of rolls into place.
But the Vikings, uh, 49ers, uh,that still has some stuff to
play out.
And those matchups, and again,whoever gets the seven seeds, so

(02:24:49):
we'll go through all of that.
But Lions, Packers, Packers fourand a half point favorites at
home.
Total is 49 and a half.

Stoy Hall (02:24:57):
Uh, weather, 33 degrees, probably lesser with
windshield.
It's nighttime.
Mm-hmm.
get in the twenties.

Um, both teams playing well.
Yep.
Teams, lines of won seven andnine, with one caveat being the
dud that they laid in Carolina,which is why they're in this
position.
Layoffs.
Um, but the packer's still.
and getting healthier.
Defense is looking better.
Um, more what you were expectingthe packers to look like

(02:25:28):
throughout the year.
It's fine.

Stoy Hall (02:25:29):
They're playing the way they should have been
playing.
Correct?
I just don't want to see them inthe playoffs.
Right.
I don't want, I didn't wanna seethe bucks in the playoffs.
Yeah, they're gonna

find a way.
I mean, green Bay is not losingto the Lions at home to go to
the playoffs.
No,

Stoy Hall (02:25:42):
they're not.
I want them to.
Yeah, but why would they, um,like that's just, why would
they, now that being said, I amtaking Detroit to cover that
thing.
he could flip, he flipped itfolks.
I said it and then he flippedit.

No, I think they, I think Crosby kicks a field goal
to win this game.

Stoy Hall (02:26:04):
Yeah.
Abso that's fine.
Like also good to see Detroitwinning.
I want them to 49 and a halfnow.
That's a lot of points.
That's just, that's a lot ofpoints.
A division game relative coldwith a dome team for this.
I don't, why I don't, I don'tsee these teams played

earlier in the year.
Correct.

Stoy Hall (02:26:26):
Absolutely.
They did.
trying to

find what they did.
Yeah, I mean not that, that saysa lot about this game cuz I
think specifically the Packersare in a lot different spot.
15 to nine.
I thought it was super low andit was Oh yeah, you on the
under.

Stoy Hall (02:26:49):
Yeah, you can do it.
Um, I mean, you gonna do it?

I just, both of these teams can play offense.
They can.
Especially now

Stoy Hall (02:27:07):
the unders a tough one to pick for, for that
perspective.
Yeah, but

I mean, I think this is a 27, 24 game.
All right, so I'm going over,alright, do it.
Because I think that's the fieldgoal that, that I just
mentioned.
Uh, for Crosby to kick to winthe game takes me, takes me
over.
No, it does.

Stoy Hall (02:27:25):
It could also been in a tie.
So

Wait, who wins if they, who goes to the playoffs?
If they tie Well, Seattle wins.
We're gonna check.
Yeah, we're gonna check We'regonna check.
Find out.
Well, you gonna find, you gonnalearn today.
You gonna learn today.
I'm disappointed.
God, that made me just, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah.

Stoy Hall (02:27:45):
Uh, best bets or no?
Um, yeah.
Okay.
I think so.
I'm still right about those.
Um,

a coup, I mean, first one that jumped out to me
is why Indianapolis was favoredto win against Houston this
week.
that team's awful

Stoy Hall (02:28:06):
It's just so sad and funny with, with the cults.
Like every time they.
Matt Ryan, the other quarterbackdoes horrific.
Yeah.
And Matt Ryan has not, I mean,he has not played great, but
he's played fairly well for whatis on that o line.
I mean, don't

the Texans, aren't they locked into the number one
pick no matter if they win orlose?
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (02:28:27):
So they, they could play to, they could just play.
Right.
Any who?
Uh, let's go with locks.

Locks lock, I mean, AFC games, so many games that
matter.
I know.
Um, there's so many.
I'm locking the chargers at onedamn.
72 against Mongos.

Stoy Hall (02:28:49):
Okay.
I'm not gonna follow you cuzthat's exactly where I was
going.
Um, you know what, I'll ridewith Kenny Picket.
Gimme pit minus 1 54.

Over Cleveland.
Over Cleveland.
All right.

Stoy Hall (02:29:18):
Um hmm.
This one's fairly easy for me.
Cardinals plus 14 are theNiners.
I don't know why the Niners,

I don't, Niners are still playing for potential one
seed.

Stoy Hall (02:29:30):
I know, but it's a division game car.
It's Cardinals, right?
Yeah.
I don't, I just don't, don't see

that happening.
No, I'm trying Tim.

Stoy Hall (02:29:39):
Yeah.
I just don't, I just don't seeit happening.
What

did I say?
Uh, all right.
I will take, Hmm.

(02:30:08):
I mean, gimme the, it's six anda half.
Is that what I'm doing?

Stoy Hall (02:30:15):
Is that what I'm doing?
Oh, the

Texans thing just confuses the hell out of me.
So stay away.
Yeah, I think so.
I will take the sea on a six anda half against the Rams who have

(02:30:37):
just absolutely nothing to playfor.
And Seattle

Stoy Hall (02:30:41):
winning.
Good.
Yeah.
Um, you know what, over, under?
Yeah.
And I'm going to that TexanColts and I'm going shootout.
Huh?
I'm pretty sure I've taken underon every one of the season.
Can't verify that going over,but I'm going over 38 and a half
one.
It's lowish shit.

38 and a half.
Gimme the

Stoy Hall (02:31:04):
over the over

when it's a whole bunch of teams that just don't
give a shit.
So you're just not gonna play ashard on defense.
Let's just

Stoy Hall (02:31:11):
go balls of the wall.
They're gonna throw out, youknow, let's throw deep balls.
Just crazy shit.
Let's do

it.
Let's get it.
I like that.
I like that a lot.
Um, I'm gonna go to a similarscenario in, uh, Carolina at the
Saints.
I could see that playingindoors.
That game's 41 and a half.
They're just gonna, I mean,again, division rivals, but
like, let's score some points.
Let's have some fun last week ofthe year.

(02:31:37):
Nobody wants to get hurt.
Everybody wants to go onvacation.
Let's go over.
I like it.
Degen Pick.
You got a, you got any funparlays coming in?
I do.
I

Stoy Hall (02:31:52):
got a, I got a two Teamer little b and b action.
Gimme the Broncos and the Bearsplus 6 27.
That is the Bears over theVikings at home and the Broncos
over the Chargers at home.
You know what, two franchisesthat, you know, the, the actual
bears are going into correcttrajectory.
The Broncos defensively havebeen fine.

(02:32:14):
If they would actually score 16,you know, 16 points a game,
they'd actually win a lot moregames.
You gotta take the plus out andmove it to the other side.
Otherwise that thinks it's anequation.
Um, so yeah, gimme Broncos Bearsplus 6 27.

And I will take, let's see here.
Gosh, jets.
I know, Hmm.

(02:33:24):
I got a five Leger, excuse me,the old

Stoy Hall (02:33:29):
five Leger.
I'm sitting over here watchingmy kid at Spirit Week or
whatever, shooting free throws,and he's not a basketball
player.
And all of a sudden I hear is Ihave a five

Leger, I have a five Leger.
I got Seattle over the Rams,Vikings over the Bears Houston,
over Indie Kansas City, over LasVegas, and my cowboys over
Washington.
At plus 9 46 going out with abang.

Stoy Hall (02:34:08):
I'm trying to think what I don't like there.
La Yeah.
Probably about the only thing

who you, what didn't you like?
Oh, Seattle's playing laMinnesota's playing the Bears,
which you've got them in yours,but Texans.
Here's the thing.
Vegas has been right onMinnesota all year.
It's the only thing that's beenright about Minnesota all year
is Vegas.
It's Vegas.

(02:34:38):
Chicago has nothing to play forexcept for draft picks losing,
and Minnesota's still fightingfor potential.
Whatever.
I get that

Stoy Hall (02:34:44):
Casey

house playing.
Yeah.
No, I don't, don't.
Houston is the only underdog inthat play.
I don't, I don't.
Somehow they're a two and a halfpoint underdog at Indie.
I can't of both of those.
Hate that.
Like I don't, I can't hate it.
Yep.
So I can't hate it.
Uh, best bets for the week.
We have money line locks of pitat minus 1 54 with Cleveland for
Stoy.
Uh, myself, Los Angeles Chargersover the Denver Bar, Broncos

(02:35:06):
minus 1 72 spread lock.
Uh, Stoy likes the Cardinals tocover 14 points against the
49ers.
Uh, I will take Seattle coveringsix and a half over the Rams.
Over under Lock.
Houston Indie over 38 and a halffor Stoy Carolina, new Orleans,
41 and a half.

(02:35:26):
over for me in that game.
And the DJ n Picks of the Week.
Stoy has the two teamer ofDenver and the Bears, uh, plus 6
27, uh, Denver Beating whoChargers, the Chargers, and the
Bears beating the Vikings.
And I have the Seattle over theRams, Minnesota over the Bears,

(02:35:53):
and, uh, Houston over Indie KCover the Raiders and Dallas,
over the commanders at plus 946.
And that is our N F L Picks ofthe Week and onto our playoff
predictor.

Stoy Hall (02:36:07):
All right, here we go.
Week 18.
You know what I, I, I, I'm, theytook it off and I'm, I am glad
ESPN did that.
Mm-hmm.
they took the game off.
I figured they would leave itGood for them.
Um, they do still have theBengals game, which I think
actually is to be announced.
I don't even think that's inplay, uh, either is the Bills

(02:36:30):
game for this weekend.
No, by the way, so,

um, both those games will be played.
They'll be played.
Yep.

Stoy Hall (02:36:36):
They just haven't announced when they will be.
Yep.
Um, absolutely.
So, uh, Raiders.
Chiefs, we're not even gonnatalk about it.
Chiefs, they're playing for theone seat.
Yep.
They win.
It's locked up.
Cuz I don't, I don't, yeah.
I don't see it.
Even if it, even if the bills,uh, bees tie.
Yep.
Game.

(02:36:57):
So the Chiefs, they win.
They're, they're sitting for aweek.
They know that.
Um, Panthers, saints, I'm ridingon the

Panthers.
I'll take the Saints cuz it'shome.
Doesn't matter when we're,

Stoy Hall (02:37:07):
no that literally mink enough sense.
Um, I'm gonna start down here.
Let's go

Brown Steelers, Steelers at home.
But that's the only reason, um,I don't love that game either
way.
Okay.
But

Stoy Hall (02:37:18):
Steelers get in.
Mm-hmm.
playing to win, playing to getin.
And Jacksonville, Tennessee, we,we've hit upon this both took
Jacksonville at home, so let'sget Jacksonville into the
playoffs.
Um, Ravens Bengals,

um, depends on if Lamar, Lamar, Jackson plays.
Yep.

Stoy Hall (02:37:38):
Um, Baltimore's just playing for seating.

Well, it depends on what happens with the game from
last week.
Correct.

Stoy Hall (02:37:47):
But for now, yeah.
Playing for seating.
Does it, does it, does it makesense to put them in?
Um,

it all depends on if Cincinnati

Stoy Hall (02:37:56):
Do they, do they wanna play'em again with or
without Lamar?
If it's a tie, then

I think Baltimore has more to play for.
So you want Baltimore?
Yeah, and I think Lamar Jacksonwill play, uh, giants.
who's the Lord?
Oh yeah.
Giants don't have anything toplay for.
No.
Unfortunately for my Cowboys,

Stoy Hall (02:38:18):
Cowboys, uh, bucks.
Falcons, uh, I'm riding withAtlanta.
I know you are too.
Mm-hmm.
it doesn't mean anything for theBucks.
I, although they say Brady'splaying.
Yep.
Still makes no sense.
Dallas is playing at the sametime as the Eagles, so they're
playing for the one seed.
Obviously we have them winning.
Mm-hmm.
um, chargers, Broncos, I don'tknow if the Chargers are playing

(02:38:41):
for anything.
I also have, the Broncos winningchargers are playing

between five and six, so I'd much rather play the
Jaguars.
Yeah, I agree.
I think they're playing for Iagree.

Stoy Hall (02:38:52):
Um, Bill's, Patriots,

here's the problem.
The, the Patriots win andthey're in.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (02:39:02):
Patriots are gonna play if Kansas City loses for
some reason.

Yeah.
Buffalo and Buffalo's playingbetween the two and three.
But you, and you definitelywanna play the Patriots in the
first round, I would think overBaltimore or Los Angeles.
Yes.
So they're playing, uh, I'mgonna say they're all in for,
for Hamlin, so Yeah.

Stoy Hall (02:39:27):
Now, unless something crazy happens this week.
Yeah.
You know, God forbid somethinghe worsens.
Yeah.
Then no, it's out the window.
But I, I agree.
I agree.
Um, you

know, which the bills are a significantly better
football team than Yeah.
And I would much rather seePittsburgh in the playoffs than
New England.
Just because I just don't carefor New England.
No, not at

Stoy Hall (02:39:47):
all.
Uh uh, Vikings, we got them in,although I do have them getting
upset.
That's fine.
That's what we're, uh,

Cardinals.
Niners Nines got, still got anoutside chance.
So they're gonna keep playing.
And a better seating to play

Stoy Hall (02:40:01):
to play here maybe.
Mm-hmm.
uh, Texans.
Golds.
Texans win.
Uh, Seattle better beat theRams.
Yeah.
Which makes Sunday night gamestupid, but whatever.
Uh, jets,

dolphins.
Here's the other game thatmatters because if the Dolphins
win, I believe they're in.
Yep.
Um, jets aren't playing foranything.
Now go back.
If you look at that and if theDolphins win and the Patriots
win, who's in anyone?
So those matters to you.
So win of those games.
See, that's the thing is wedon't know when that Bill's
game's being played.
Correct.

Stoy Hall (02:40:34):
Um, because the other one's playing at the same time.
Right.

Makes a big difference.
Um,

Stoy Hall (02:40:42):
it's slated for noon.
It's the only one that's slatedthat Baltimore, since he's not
Yeah, no, I know.
That's what, but the bills areslated for a noon game.
Baltimore's not slated for agame or it's since he
Baltimore's not announced.

Not slated for a time.
No.
Interesting.

Stoy Hall (02:40:59):
Why wouldn't, nevermind.
That's stupid.
Nfl.
Don't do something dumb.
What do you have?

Uh, so Bridge two Play no two is out.
Okay.
He's been taken out of the, thequestion is, is a Bridgewater or
Skylar Johnson, I think is theirbackup, uh, is playing for Mike
White back.
Mike White played last week.
Okay.
But they lost, um, dolphins areagain fighting for their playoff
slide.
They have more to fight for.
So you lean all Lean Dolphins.

(02:41:26):
That's fine.
Um,

Stoy Hall (02:41:29):
and then here

I Packers

Stoy Hall (02:41:34):
Aho.
Unfortunately.
I agree, but I don't think, Idon't think these lions are
gonna go down easy.
No.
At all.
Um,

and so what if they tie Here it is.
It ties Seahawks in.
Yeah.
What if

Stoy Hall (02:41:50):
Seattle Ties, which just ties around.
Yeah.
They're still in LA's.
The only chance for

the lines wait.
If both tie, so if Rams win,

Stoy Hall (02:42:04):
lions are in, if they tie both Tie Seattle's in.
Seattle's in.

If Green Bay

Stoy Hall (02:42:10):
wins, they're in.
So this is where we have it.
Green Bay making it in.
What?
Yeah.
That's gross.
No.
Um, just disgusting actually.
Uh, I don't really like this.
I don't like the NM C at all.
No.
AFC ended up basically how wehad it for a while except for

(02:42:30):
the Jags getting in, whichmm-hmm.
um, with Tennessee's injuriesand stuff.
That makes sense.
And they've just, Jacksonville'splayed hot and played better.
So, um, overall from thesematchups, uh, I've got San Fran.
I don't, Vikings need to show mesomething and I've got Dallas.
Mm-hmm.
uh, AFC side.

(02:42:51):
I've, you know, I've got BuffaloBengals, Jacksonville.
I think that one's gonna run inthe seatings.
I don't, I don't see the otherteams doing anything.
Yeah.
I mean,

I can see the Chargers beating Jacksonville.
Uh, that's about it.
David.
That's the closest game.
That would be the closest.
That's gonna be a fun game.
That would be, I would love tosee that matchup.
Correct.
Uh, that would be my favorite ofthe matchups we have up there.
That would definitely be myfavorite matchup to watch.
Um, Bengals Baltimore, if theyplayed, would be an exciting
matchup, just cuz it'sdivisional.
But you don't really wanna seethat game three times,
especially.
Two times in two weeks, weeks.

(02:43:21):
Uh, but there we are.
Um, we'll see what it last week18 is going to bring us a lot.
Uh, and obviously we have a ver,a rogue game at this point, um,
that we'll discuss next week.
Uh, along with, uh, nationalChampionship.
The Natty.

(02:43:41):
The Natty, the Natty.
That's all folks.
That's

Stoy Hall (02:43:45):
all.
Um, make sure you do donate tothe cause.
We'll have that out.
um, oh, I already have it uphere.
Yeah.
Um, let's get a little refresh,see if it's uh, if it's grown a
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Yeah.
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Since we talked.
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