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Cole Ingle (00:04):
It's time.
All right.
Um, for those wondering kind ofwhat we're looking at there.
Caden Proctor, uh, all,everything tackle, uh, that, uh,
is local product from SoutheastPolk High School.
Um, had given a commitment toIowa back in June, verbally, um,

(00:29):
here over the last couple weekshas been to University of
Oregon, university of Iowa, andUniversity of Alabama on visits,
um, has her Twitter post today,uh, switched his, uh, commitment
from Iowa to Alabama.
His signing is tomorrow morning,uh, at Southeast Polk High

(00:50):
School at 8 45, where he will,uh, it looks like sign his
letter of intent with theUniversity of Alabama Roll Tide.
Uh, Abu Samma, who's the studrunning back, who had six
touchdowns in the statechampionship game, is fully
expected to honor his commitmentto Iowa State, uh, and sign his

(01:13):
national letter of tent.
Uh, they'll sign togethertomorrow at Southeast Polk High
School.
So, pretty

Stoy Hall (01:18):
cool.
Yeah.
Um,

Cole Ingle (01:19):
don't blame him.
Yeah.
Uh, rumored million dollars ayear.
Um, definitely don't blame him.
Rumor at Iowa, Iowa at one pointwas.
two 50.
So over four years, um, up to amillion.
And then with other thingscoming in, uh, it was looking
like at the end of it they weregonna get him up to about 500 a

(01:41):
year.
So 2 million over.
Um, everything that I've seenhim post or heard is, um, it's
just more ability to winNational Championship.
Obviously hired Alabama.
A lot of considerations.
And the biggest thing that like,I would hope that people take
out of it, cuz there's gonna bea lot of, and there already even

(02:02):
has been with just the rumorsswirling over the last few days,
money, um, pushback from thefans and everything like that.
And this is probably a deeperconversation that we'll want to
have as we see these things takeplace.
But it's gonna be the impact ofnil on fan bases who are

(02:22):
directly now paying these kidsbecause these are all alumni
base or fan base programs.
Swarm is the, what it's calledat Iowa that are bringing these
monies in.
So these people are throwingtheir monies at these programs
in order to pay these kids.
You know, it's pay for play,whether they want to say it or
not directly affects transferportal.

(02:43):
It directly affects fandom.
Absolutely.
Uh, the kids that are coming in.
But you're going to see thismore.
And so the argument becomes, youknow, are the fans in the right
to be yelling at a 17 year old?
For recommitting from a programor anything like that, whether
it be over money or you know,family obligations or anything
like that.
Because I can do more with amillion dollars at age 17 than I

(03:06):
can with 250,000.
I can do more with that at anyage.
So if I were to come to you witha contract that says, Hey, I'll
pay a hundred thousand dollars ayear, and then six months later
after you tell me you're in,someone comes to you and says,
Hey, I'll pay you$500,000 ayear.
What are you as a 25, 30, 35, 50year old man or woman going to

(03:30):
say, when I come to you and youare not in any way contracted to
the first, it's pretty easy,other than you, you gave me your
word, right?
But now you're getting moremoney, but, and if you tell me
you're leaving$400,000 on thetable, get, I'm gonna call you.
Yeah.
Get, we are the no BS GoonSquad.

(03:50):
Yeah.
And you're full of shit.
Yeah.
You're

Stoy Hall (03:52):
completely full of shit.
So not to mention is it, it's amoney thing, but also better
team, better Right.
Top side on top of all of that,

Cole Ingle (04:00):
the argument from the fans is obviously in June,
all of these things were on thetable the same way.
And he said all of the rightthings as far as, it's not about
money, it's about staying home,it's about feeling at home, da
da da da da.
And now it, all of a sudden,it's still not about money, but
it's about winning nationalchampionships.
And the thing is, betweenDecember and June, Iowa and
Alabama haven't changed in theirability to win.

(04:22):
Champ.
I mean, it's still the same.
So that's the blowback.
Here's the thing.
First of all, kid's, 17 yearsold.
Second of all, he's got a, howmany people in his ear?
He's got people paying forflights to everywhere, all
inclusive, everything at thesecampuses now, because it doesn't
matter, it's snow holds bar.

(04:42):
Yep.
Uh, on the kids that they wantto get.
I mean, we're talking Nick Sabanat in Reynolds, Iowa, telling
where, what do we need to do?
Where the hell's that?
Right, right.
Uh, what do we need to do to, toget you, uh, two weeks before
signing day?
Uh, you know, a week before thatit was, uh, is it crystal ball?
That's in Oregon?
No, he went from Oregon toMiami.

(05:02):
Suzanne, whoever's in Oregon.
Now, same thing.
Come get it.
What do you need?
What, what can we do to get youin here?
Um, and money's seemingly aboutthe same between Oregon and
Alabama from everything I'veheard.
But it's like you've got so manypeople, adults that are
hopefully have the best interestin mind, but we all know that
that's not always the case.
And many times is not becausethey're not the ones making the

(05:26):
money.
They're the ones with the dollarsigns in their eyes.
They're not the ones who have toperform or anything like that.
So, um, empathy for the kidalso, you hope he makes the best
decision from them.
And, and ultimately the transferportal's open.
Iowa's gonna have their armswide open if he's not happy
there in a year.
So don't burn a bridge.
Anywhere you can't, I mean, as acoaching staff, as a fan base,

Stoy Hall (05:48):
like I, it'd be interesting to get some, some of
our coaches on to ask thisspecific, specific spot.
Are you always recruiting?
Like, are you not, notrecruiting the guys that you
want?
Even if they go play somewherenow you have to, you have to

Cole Ingle (05:59):
at this point, right?
Mm-hmm.
And that's the tough, gotta bethe toughest part from a
coaching perspective, is ifyou're done with a guy and you
want to voice that, you have tobe at peace with ever

Stoy Hall (06:12):
getting, not coming back or, or the people around
him too.
Like we got quarterbacksbringing receivers in.
Like you burn a bridge, you're

Cole Ingle (06:20):
might, could be burning more than, I mean that's
the whole point with burning abridge too, is it's not just,
it's the whole bridge.
It's every piece of it.
It's all the connections.
Connections, the networks.
And obviously social networksare as big as anything Yeah.
In the world right now.
So, but hey,

Stoy Hall (06:35):
I, I more power to 'em.
Yeah.
Uh, great decision.
I would, I would make that samedecision.
Yeah.
Just because I don't like thehawkeys, but I mean, right.
Like from a football standpoint,how do

Cole Ingle (06:44):
you feel about the, just generally speaking real
quick on the com committingdecommit portion, just part of
part of football these days,part of the game.
It's, I mean, just, I mean, it'sno different than the transport
portal really.
I don't, I don't think, like, isis there one that's worse?

Stoy Hall (06:58):
I would say if like he committed to ban, like say he
just committed Iowa mm-hmm.
and then flipped that becausewe're so close and that means
like

Cole Ingle (07:07):
six months ago.
Six months.
But he's been riding strongthat, you know, that's where he
is going.
Uh, his best friend, XavierWamps.
Um, but you know, but we don'tknow.
Like, no, we don't, none.
Here's the thing, we knownothing, right.
About nothing.
Correct.

Stoy Hall (07:21):
Iowa, I mean, Iowa could have said that.
No, you're probably not startingright away cuz they just had a
whole bunch of young guys.
I mean, there's so many things.
Mm-hmm.
um, I'm just proud of'em formaking a decision and, and not
doing the super like late flip ahat 16 times that bullshit needs
to stop.
Right.
Well, it's just, just commitmade for TV and do it.
Don't, don't be the douche bagthat does the hat, the hat thing

(07:42):
with the Jersey pole.
And, um, so I, you know, he, he,yeah.
Said what he is doing.
He is doing it and sign it.
Cool.
Do it.
So, and if you don't like itagain, what's cool about it is
he can always come home.
Right.
Like, there's no way Iowa wouldbe like, nah.
Right.
They'd be like, absolutely.
Mm-hmm.
And so it gives kids power andI'm all for it.

(08:04):
I think it needs to be honed ina little bit, obviously, but I'm
for it.
Mm-hmm.

Cole Ingle (08:09):
All right.
Let's jump into other news.
Um, we're gonna be all over theboard this week.
This is gonna be all

Stoy Hall (08:14):
over the board.
Where do you wanna start?
I'm top to bottom at this point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Top to bottom.
Uh, Justin Jefferson is 465yards away from breaking Kevin
Johnson's record from mostreceiving yards in season, which
kind of is insane.
It's like he's about half ofthat now and now half of that.
Because that

Cole Ingle (08:33):
was last

Stoy Hall (08:34):
week, like three games to go.
Yeah.
That's got, that's, I justnever, I know he's having a good
year, but when you put it.
Mm-hmm.
It's just, that's just insane.
Yeah.
I don't know why people don'tcover him more, but whatever.
I don't care about that one.
Georgia did, have you ever seenthis blocking drill before?

(08:56):
I just did this one cuz I waslike impressed the fact that
they're like, have you, no, I'venever seen

Cole Ingle (09:04):
this.
This completely makes sense.
A hundred percent does.
So what you're seeing, I'venever seen it.
Yes.
Three men, we passing drill.
Um, but like, I'll, I'll try toexplain from an offensive pos
um, perspective why this isgood.
So what you're seeing here is,is just one lineman.
He starts blocking a guy overthe top and then is blocking a
guy coming from the right guy,coming from the left.

(09:25):
And the biggest thing this doesis one, it's a great drill for
keeping your feet moving at alltimes.
Cuz as soon as an a linemanlocks his feet in the ground is
when he gets ran over and orjuked out.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, the second thing is stuntsare a huge thing in the nfl.
Whether it be a linebacker, um,defense, a lineman stunt, or
just a defensive lineman stuntin general.

(09:46):
Uh, that's either gonna be blitzor stunt depending on which side
of the balls or which positionsare doing it.
But basically it is, can I, canI redirect from one block to the
other, either one guy to theother and, and engage in a
forceful way.
and I haven't seen a drill donebetter than that, so I'll let
you kind of hit up from adefensive side, like

Stoy Hall (10:07):
No, I mean, so from a defensive side, like these
weaves, if you will, this is thestunts they're running.
Mm-hmm.
they're gonna be running stuntsvery closely like this.
Now obviously we would run, it'dbe cleaner and all of that, but
it's still for an offensive guy,this fantastic job.
I've never seen this drill andit makes so much sense.
And a

Cole Ingle (10:23):
stunt for those not exactly sure.
What that is, is basically whena defensive lineman, and so like
if a defensive end and a noseguard were to basically switch
responsibilities, one were to gooutside and the other were to go
inside from where they line upto confuse the offensive lineman
basically to get him to blocksomeone that's not where, in his

(10:45):
lane to open either a linebackeror defensive end or whatever it
may be, to have a clear path ateither running back or
quarterback.
So, um, that drill is, yeah,that's a, that's a great
coaching drill.
I absolutely love that.

Stoy Hall (10:59):
Yeah, absolutely.
Just, just, just so dumb, just

Cole Ingle (11:08):
people being,

Stoy Hall (11:09):
just like Todd Mahey says Jaylen Carter has character
issues that could hurt him inthe draft.
False.
I'm tellingly projecting him atnumber two.
Yeah.
God.
Media people, they just drive meinsane.
Yeah.
Talking heads.
Yeah.
This one's kind of cool.

Cole Ingle (11:21):
Please, please at us and call us out if we get like
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (11:25):
If we get like, yeah.
Serious.
Cut us off please.
Um, drew B's being hired as an.

Cole Ingle (11:31):
Purdue interim assistant coach at Purdue.
I don't know if this is, Ihaven't read enough or know
enough to see if he, uh, uh, isplanning on continuing or if
it's just for the bowl, what's agame I haven't.
Um, but, uh, any commentscomparing him to Jeff Saturday?
Which just, first of all, thisisn't even remotely comparable,
so we'll ignore those.

(11:52):
Um, yeah.

Stoy Hall (11:54):
Um, I just, uh, I just wanted to show just
another, another defensive flaw,um, besides a sweet play design.
Like you should probably putthat in.
You should probably cover thatguy.
Just cover that guy.
Um,

Cole Ingle (12:10):
plus 1200 score first touchdown.

Stoy Hall (12:12):
Yeah.
And nailed it.
But this is just a, a fantasticplay design, just purdy.

Cole Ingle (12:17):
Well, it helps when you have the weapons.
They do

Stoy Hall (12:19):
too.
Well, yeah, because

Cole Ingle (12:20):
it doesn't work.
I mean, because you faked it toyour two biggest weapons and
then threw it to your other hugeweapon.
like, oh no, that guy's reallygood.
Oh no.
That guy's even better.
Oh no.
We forgot.
One of the better.
The best tied into the game andcould stay healthy for a season.
We screwed

Stoy Hall (12:35):
that one up.
Yeah.
So,

Cole Ingle (12:38):
um, but then just pretty damn good,

Stoy Hall (12:42):
um, on TikTok.
Yeah.
Uh, for, uh, big Brock Cock, bigcock rock.
Cock rock.
We got flagged and then they,uh, don't worry, don't worry.
Mm-hmm.
they approved it.
They approved it after figuringit out.
Yep.
That was hilarious.
What's this one?
Why won?
Oh.

(13:03):
Although they end up winningthis game.
Yeah.
This was just hilarious.
Oh yeah.
It was a halftime.
Just, you

Cole Ingle (13:11):
just, I thought it was just gonna be people jumping
outta the back of the van.
No, no.
But funny getting off thebandwagon.
This, the doors were just gonnafly open.
People were just start flying

Stoy Hall (13:21):
out.
Uh, a little more Purdy Love.
Yeah.
This one's funny.
Um, you guys listening, won't I?
I don't even have to describeit.
We'll, we'll just put the factthat, uh, Kyle Sha Ann's moved
on from Trail Lands tolo toPurdy and is taking care of him
like a little baby.
Yeah.
We'll just put it that way.
He,

Cole Ingle (13:36):
uh, yeah.
His, he's all eyes on Purdy.
Uh, one of the kids is drowningand the other, um, skeleton is
underneath the water.
Yeah.
Uh, and that is the skeleton oftrail lands, uh, in San
Francisco.

Stoy Hall (13:48):
So golf pnc, man, this was, it was fun to watch,
uh, even fun to watch him whilehe was limping around.
But Charlie Woods like, look atthe three, like, you think he
hit puberty, you think?
Does

Cole Ingle (13:59):
it show it's creepy to watch him play next to his
dad?
It's like the ghost of Christmasfuture.
Yeah.
In like,

Stoy Hall (14:05):
look at, but look at his positions.
Mm-hmm.
And then this

Cole Ingle (14:09):
looks like mind you all really good golf positions.
None of those is wrong.
No, no.
But if ones, if we could get toany of those positions, we'd be
ahead of the

Stoy Hall (14:17):
way.
We do.
We do every once

Cole Ingle (14:19):
in.
Yeah.
But it's Wow.
Then if we could do after what?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, yeah.
Mini wood, mini tiger there.
Tiger.
Tiger, tiger.
Uh,

Stoy Hall (14:32):
I don't care about that one.
Liv coo resigns.
Yes.
I as a defender, love everythingabout this play.
So

Cole Ingle (14:44):
we've got, uh, bowl game highlights here.
Um, Troy, utsa

Stoy Hall (14:48):
just,

Cole Ingle (14:48):
just, just interception return and we've
got a defensive lineman, justabsolutely leveling.
Uh, a big Digg.
It.
This is the short one.
Huff puffing.
Uh, I just want everyone to Oh,lineman as he runs down the
field.

Stoy Hall (15:02):
Why is this the short video?
That sucks.
Cuz he gets hammered.
Yep.
He gets hammered and there's athird one.
Oh.
And it was awesome.
That's what you do.
Gotcha.
As a defensive team when you getit back.
The triple Amy.
It's just time to pick six,knock everyone out.
This, this was a littleridiculous to me though.
So Purdy one on Thursday night.
Yeah.
He went from 2,500 to an offenseof the year to a thousand.

(15:23):
Yeah.
How he's played three games.
I don't

Cole Ingle (15:27):
think he'll even qualify.
I mean, he, I guess he might,but I, I, no, like, no.
I don't know what the minimumgames played is, but I don't,
that was just, but I mean,obviously he can, or it wouldn't
be, it wouldn't

Stoy Hall (15:37):
be a bet, um, to the girl.
I can't talk about this.
Yeah, just look at the throwthough.
Our girl

Cole Ingle (15:44):
Annie just out here slinging the pig scan about
what?
30, 30 yards ish?
40 yards.
Looks like she's throwing itabout across the field.
I mean, just winds up and just.
just chucking the old pink sin.
Still got the big hoop earringsin, got the ponytail, rushing

Stoy Hall (16:00):
it, and then we get to our, our boy Russ.
Uh, yeah, This is a bad look.
Is it Russ?
Not

Cole Ingle (16:07):
Russ, Russ was at the tables.

Stoy Hall (16:10):
Um, this was like, I want say the news that he wasn't
starting was sometime in thisday.
Yeah,

Cole Ingle (16:20):
he was out.
I think it was night.
He's at the casino the nightbefore.
Yeah.
So like this, this is Russsitting in, uh, sitting at the
casino, um, after he, he gotannounced that he was not going
to be starting

Stoy Hall (16:32):
playing.
He's not playing at all.
Yeah.
Uh, that's a bad look,

Cole Ingle (16:36):
uh, in my opinion, cooking at the

Stoy Hall (16:37):
casino.
He's losing all his money.
I bet.
Yeah.
So, oh man, what's this one?
Oh, have you?
I, I put, I know why this one'sin here.
Have you ever had, have you howmany times has this happen to
you?
More

Cole Ingle (16:55):
than, and yeah, so this is dozens getting stepped
on.
It's the worst feeling in theworld.
Most helpless.
Well,

Stoy Hall (17:02):
it took him so long to get his foot.
Is that slow foot?

Cole Ingle (17:04):
It's just because I, well, I don't know.
The only thing I can think thereis he's gone quick game, so he
is trying to get that first stepunder him so that he can get his
shoulders turned and get rid ofthe ball to the left.
Yeah.
Other than that, it's really, itjust seems really Well, he
shouldn't be so, like he pivotsleft footed and he should just
be pushing.
and extending backwards leftfooted.

(17:24):
So that's the only reason that Ithink that he might be trying to
throw quick left.
Oh.
Is because he wanted to hardbecause he's, he didn't want to
get, so if he pushes hard left,he's putting his back towards
where he wants to throw quicktoo.
Um, but yeah, guard steps on hisfoot and he goes straight down.
A lot of times this will happenin short running game, um, just
on run plays.

(17:45):
And it's where like he'll, thecenter will actually get
pressure up the middle.
And so his first step goes backand it's on your plant foot that
he steps.
So then he is on your toe andyou're trying to pivot and like
dive toward the running back anddo everything you can to not
just fall flat on your face.
Whoa.
Um, or on your ass like thatone.
So, uh, yeah.

(18:06):
R i p Kirk.
R p Kirk.

Stoy Hall (18:10):
Yeah.
Man.
Is that passed?
Oh, there's, there's your

Cole Ingle (18:15):
boy.
Oh, this one has a fun one.
Um, yeah, don't call, don't callit a comeback.
Uh, Matt Ryan,

Stoy Hall (18:20):
little, uh, 28 to three in the background.
Colt's uniform and yeah.
Um, little Ptsd.
T s D from, looks like from Nam.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (18:29):
Um, Matt Ryan.
Not a good look.
Uh, would you like to share?

Stoy Hall (18:33):
So, I don't know and I can't find it.
Maybe I'll find it later, but,so there's a graphic like this,
it has four squares.
Um, top left.
It was like, um, so it's allabout Matt Ryan and his losses.
Yeah.
Uh, greatest come, or greatestcome.
for the London game series.
Mm-hmm.
Greatest comeback in regular,clearly regular season.

(18:54):
Greatest comeback in N F CChampionship and Super Bowl.
Yeah.
Matt Ryan was on the losing endof all of those comebacks.
All of those comebacks.
So all up I think 24 plus.
Right.
And lost them.
Yeah.
Common denominator.
Yeah.
Just Matt, Ryan.
Time to hang'em up.
Yep.
I couldn't imagine losing Yeah.

(19:14):
That many times.
Uh, don't know if you watchedthis one or anyone did, but, uh,
the snowball fest.
Yeah.
Best part.
Just watch cameraman.
Watch Cameron.
He doesn't flinch though boo.
Yep.

Cole Ingle (19:30):
Just gets, just gets pegged in the back.
The tweet.
They had

Stoy Hall (19:33):
to put an announcement out of that game.
Tweet Cameron.
Uh, Cameron man.
Catching strays.
Yeah.
Catching strays.
All right.
So I said earlier, Frank Gore isback.
Uh, little Frank.
Little Frank.

Cole Ingle (19:45):
Well,

Stoy Hall (19:45):
little Frank Gore.
First of all, I read this, I hadto read it twice.
I was like, most in bull historyand I was like, no way.
Cause I've read this as 2 39.
Yeah.
By dyslexia that I don't have,but I was like 2 39.
There's 21

Cole Ingle (19:58):
for 3 29,

Stoy Hall (20:00):
21 for 3

Cole Ingle (20:01):
29.
It's decent.
About 15 a touch for thosescoring at home.
Um, the, here's the thing.
He ran for 3 29.
He only had two touchdowns.
like, did he just stop runningat the one?
A lot of time just get caught.
3 29 and we only had two.

(20:24):
That's messed up.
Coach

Stoy Hall (20:25):
must not like it.
Two things either.
He didn't, he didn't get in inthe long run or they pulled,
then he pulled him when they'reon the gold line and just didn't
let him finish.
Which is rude.

Cole Ingle (20:34):
Yeah, just rude.
3 29 and two is just, it'salmost, that's almost more
impressive.
Yeah.
than the 3 29 itself.
That's true.
Coach.
I ran for three football fieldsand only scored twice.
Thanks.
You would think that at least hehad three.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (20:50):
You would think one

Cole Ingle (20:51):
would think one per football field, right?
Uh,

Stoy Hall (20:54):
n f l history, talking about the whole, um,
comebacks, right.
I'll call it a comeback.
Uh, 1,448.
1,548.
Oh, see, dyslexia.

Cole Ingle (21:04):
Yeah, I got it.
See, that time you put a numberin there, there's not even
there.
Yeah.
No.

Stoy Hall (21:07):
Uh, one and one, uh, the NFL history and I can't
remember what it was.
So in

Cole Ingle (21:12):
1,550 NFL games, well, this one is a team had
been down.
What is 33 points?
Oh yeah,

Stoy Hall (21:22):
it's 33.
Nothing right here.
Yep.

Cole Ingle (21:24):
First what's, or 30 plus, excuse me.
30 plus points.
It's also happened that manytimes.
It's crazy.
It's in the NFL history.
It's happened 1,550 times that ateam has down, been down 30 plus
points in a game.
One time a team came back andtied before Sunday, the most
fraudulent team in the n f.
Per, per us per most then cameback and added the only win to

(21:51):
that, to that column.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know what to think aboutthat other than I do.
It's the, other than Matt Ryan,uh, is the only thing I can say.
But now that is 1,548, uh, winsfor teams winning by 30 points,
one tie, and now one loss forteams by 30 points in a game and

(22:14):
losing

Stoy Hall (22:16):
it's coaching.
Like it's just coaching.
There wasn't turnovers.
Right.
Matt Ryan did not throw fourpicks, 16 fumbles.
Right.
They just came back.
Huh.
Um, I don't think that says anyto me.
That really doesn't say one,they should have just beat the
shit out of the colts Right.
To begin with.
Um, so that doesn't make sense.

(22:36):
I, I still think they're fraudsand I will say it again.
They're defenses, frauds.
I don't care if they shut themout.

Cole Ingle (22:42):
You still gave up 36 to the Colts.
You,

Stoy Hall (22:44):
you gave up 36 Colts.
That's like, I don't care if youOh.
Give zero

Cole Ingle (22:50):
later.
It's just the, there's somefight in these frauds.

Stoy Hall (22:53):
There's, there's fight.
I won't, yeah, there's fight.
But they're frauds.
Huh?
This is, uh,

Cole Ingle (23:02):
The whip.
The whip.
This isn't tiger.

Stoy Hall (23:05):
Yeah.
What about this doesn't

Cole Ingle (23:06):
say tiger.
And he's even got the dad limpright now cuz he rolled his
ankle.
So now he's also limping likethey walked in the Sunday walk
one.
Oh oh my God.
And it was scary looking.
He's got, I

Stoy Hall (23:19):
mean, but everything he does the fist pump, he's got
the, the obviously what he iswearing, he's, he's got the
sleeves rolled up.
Yeah, it's the shoe.
He's got the limp.
It's eerie.
Most of his positions are thesame.
Yeah.
That whips the same.
Mm-hmm.
the hold at the, that just,yeah.

Cole Ingle (23:35):
He's got a slightly more Rory swing than a tiger
swing.
And I'm pretty sure tiger.
All of the mannerisms are tiger.
I'm pretty sure Tiger instead.
Copy.
Yeah.
Do Rory, not me.

Stoy Hall (23:46):
Um, yeah, this is just, and you talked about, I
already talked about damn peacegetting hurt.
Oh, I don't, I don't, I'm goingto, nah.

Cole Ingle (23:57):
Geez.

Stoy Hall (23:59):
Just quick, just real quick.
Uh, God, uh, I don't wanna talkabout them.

Cole Ingle (24:04):
that's cowboys and colts.
Anything relating to a horse?
Yep.

Stoy Hall (24:10):
This is just back to what I was talking about with
the Falcons.
Um, they've lost five outta thelast six games in each of those
games.
They've turned the ball overwithin the final two and a half
minutes, which means they hadgame winning drives.
They

Cole Ingle (24:22):
were either winning and had a chance to close the
game or losing and had a chanceto win the.
And all within the last two anda half minutes of all of those
games.
Yep.

Stoy Hall (24:32):
You have the ball.
Two and a half minutes to win.
Mm-hmm.
that's it.
Yeah.
Uh, two fumbles lost.
Two interceptions and a turnoveron downs.
Yeah.
And a partridge

Cole Ingle (24:43):
and a paired tree.
You, you, is the season

Stoy Hall (24:46):
you win two of those five?
Yeah, we're in the division whenthe division by game.

Cole Ingle (24:51):
Yeah.
It is what I say you're theLions.
Lions 2.0.
Um, this tell me, you've, Imean, tell me you've seen a
better run since Michael Vick.

Stoy Hall (25:02):
No.
And even, no, he didn't score,which I thought he did.
It doesn't matter.
This run was incredible.
He didn't score.
No, he stepped out at the nineright there.
Yeah, but I mean, I don't

Cole Ingle (25:12):
care.
I have nothing to do.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't mind Don't himdamn touchdown.
Right.
He scored by all, everything.
I mean, everybody, nobodystopped because he stepped outta
bounds.
No.
So like they weren't tacklinghim.
No.
This was his toenail hit out

Stoy Hall (25:25):
bounds.
Yeah.
Basically it's just a thing ofbeauty

Cole Ingle (25:28):
like every part of him.
So boom, most guys are goingdown there.
Most guys are getting caughthere.
Like, what was that?
Then all guys are going downhere and then spin down

Stoy Hall (25:41):
here.
I mean, so the problem isthere's one guy's fault.
They have a spy.
He's playing, he's, I wanna sayhe's not the spy, he is the, oh
shit.
What do we call'em?
You're Robert, you're kind.
Yeah.
You're a robber.
You're like half spy.
Like you have some pastresponsibility.
Quarterback goes, you go.
Yep.
I'm not, I'm not a hundredpercent sure why he decided to

(26:04):
attack when he did.
No, because right here, whenyou're behind, where's where.
Yes, he can escape all thathere.
He not being this way, butyou've

Cole Ingle (26:14):
got two defenders there, especially cuz he's in
the, he's now, you've cut all ofyour angle off to anything else.
I mean, at this point he justneeds to break down and become
a, and not become a spy again.
Yeah, exactly.
And he doesn't, he s whos left,

Stoy Hall (26:27):
he takes off running.
Yeah.
And that's, that's actually whattriggered this

Cole Ingle (26:31):
whole thing.
And he, the thing is, is he hadmade his mind up before Fields
got in the grasp there that I'mcutting.
He was gonna get that he wasgonna get out.
Yes.
And through.
And he just didn't, I mean, I, Imean that's just what a guy of
this athletic ability can do.
How stupid.
He can make you look open fieldor completely in a stranglehold

(26:51):
stand.

Stoy Hall (26:52):
So stick to your assignments.
Can I do your assignments?
That's all I'm saying.
First of all, if you ever getmarried again, this is the type
of gift I want.
Okay.
I'm just saying.
Yeah.
Uh, San JM got married lastnight, and this was obviously
last week.
Yeah.
Um, the wedding gifts werecustomized.
Scotty Cameron's.

(27:13):
Yeah.
I'm just saying you also postedthe same one I did.
Little overlap.
Oh yes.
So many people have discussedthis, but O M G.
everyone's seen it by now.
The scene.
You have not seen the best,worst play in NFL history, then,

(27:33):
then so be it.
Patriots.
Patriots, Patriots,

Cole Ingle (27:37):
Raiders.
Don't, can't lateral, don't knowhow to stop a

Stoy Hall (27:40):
lateral.
So I'm gonna set the wholescene, right.
The Raiders go down incontroversial touchdown.
Yeah, whatever.
Um, tie the game at 24, tie thegame at 24 Patriots.
Get the ball with like 20, 30seconds left.
Um, decided to, to drive alittle bit, but here we are.
Three seconds left in thefourth.
It's, it's tied.
Yep.
Okay.

(28:00):
24.
24.
It is a tie.

Cole Ingle (28:02):
Tie, game.
Tie.
This game's going to overtime.
We've got a Hail Maryopportunity Correct.
Coming A Hail Mary

Stoy Hall (28:08):
opportunity.
You guys, they're on the, the 5045?
Yeah.
45, but like 55 yards away.
Yeah.
From shotgun.
He'll get a runup.
Okay.
We'll save 56, 57, right.
I'm gonna say all NFLquarterbacks should be able to
throw that

Cole Ingle (28:22):
far.
Yeah.
Or at least give yourself aremote chance.
Yes.
Mm-hmm.

Stoy Hall (28:26):
right?
Absolutely.
Um, the Patriots, however theydecide to go drop play, drop

Cole Ingle (28:34):
play,

Stoy Hall (28:34):
which again, fine, fine.
But then, but then the team, the

Cole Ingle (28:39):
team decides Rogue Roman, Roman Stevenson runs for
25 yards.
And, and then the glitchhappens.
It just

Stoy Hall (28:51):
says, oh, I'm a lateral.
Oh yeah.
And then this guy goes, I'mgonna throw it all the way back
backwards

Cole Ingle (28:57):
directly to the most athletic defensive player who
missed the initial draw tackle.
Yep.
On Stevenson, uh, Chandler Jonesis wide open in the middle of
the field, and good catch.
Jacobi Meyers hit, hit him instride.
He bulldozes.
We gotta go back.

Stoy Hall (29:13):
This is, this is fun.

Cole Ingle (29:14):
Bulldozes Mack Jones and then tries to step on his
helmet, but misses wait and thenscores the game.
One touch.
He, he literal, he literally

Stoy Hall (29:22):
did too, by the way.
He, he just sits down.
That wasn't a stiff arm thathard.
No,

Cole Ingle (29:26):
but like, he's a flat footed.
He's not expecting the dude justto turn and catch him.
Ball Get off my quarterback.
Not even my quarterback.
Get off the quarterback.
Like, what, what do you expectthe quarterback to do there?

Stoy Hall (29:40):
So why throw it back to your quarterback

Cole Ingle (29:42):
back?
I, he just tried to get in theway and grab a leg and he just
missed the leg.
And he almost got his facestomped on.
Like,

Stoy Hall (29:48):
like this was a stop, by the way.
Oh yeah.
He was, he was lucky he didn'tget his hand

Cole Ingle (29:53):
in the way.
Didn't get hurt.

Stoy Hall (29:55):
I, I couldn't even imagine.
Yeah.
Belichick in the locker roomcould not.
I would love to.
It's the new

Cole Ingle (30:01):
Patriot Way.
Oh.
This just further proves thatBrady and Belichick either n
both need to retire or they bothneed to get back together.
Because

Stoy Hall (30:12):
there is no way he ever would've told his players,
by the way, let's go lateralafter this.
Yeah.
No one's prepared for this,right?
No.
What?
Oh, oh god.

Cole Ingle (30:22):
Boom.
Yeah.
So the Raiders went from like 2%winning chance to a hundred, a
hundred in less than three.
There's four games this weekthat the old, uh, if you, if you
look at game trends and stufflike that as like at the end of
games, um, you have thepercentage win chance, uh, at

(30:44):
any specific time in the game,depending on all sorts of
metrics.
Um, that whole scale, uh, gotflipped on its head this weekend
in the nfl.

Stoy Hall (30:53):
Sure did.
Sure did.
Now, this, this is always goodto see little, uh, teammate, he,
this is why assists shouldhappen in football.

Cole Ingle (31:00):
Yeah.
Joe doesn't come down,

Stoy Hall (31:03):
first of all, great.
By the way, it great f uh,footwork by 28.
Yeah.
Because this is not, this wasnot easy.

Cole Ingle (31:09):
The, the awareness by both guys won the first guy
to realize that he wasn't goingto catch the ball in bounds.
But two of the second guys torealize, oh.
And he didn't realize until thelast second.
So the,

Stoy Hall (31:20):
it was impressive.
Yeah, it really was.
Um, I'm surprised actually.
You don't see that more often.

Cole Ingle (31:26):
I mean, I just think the, I mean, the fact that two
guys had to process what washappening less than a second
between the two of them.
here it is in Slowmo.
So he, he gets time to measureit up and realize he's going
outta bounds.
However, the other guy also hasto realize in a quarter of a
second, stop, catch the ball.

(31:46):
I can't let my momentum gofinish the play.
I have to react to what myteammate has seen.
And there's no way they're like,Hey, cut.
You know, like, he's not, wedon't have catches, catches,
catches, catches.
He's focusing on, he broke

Stoy Hall (31:58):
down and went,

Cole Ingle (31:59):
oh, yep.
Whoop.
Body control.
Body control.
And 20 three's like, oh, golfclub for you guys, Oh, well done
guys.

Stoy Hall (32:06):
Good job.
Wait two.
That's great.
Great pick.
I don't, um, nothing else to saythere.
So, yeah,

Cole Ingle (32:11):
completely.
Like he puts his arms up liketouchdown.
Yeah.
Which was just an, just areaction of like, oh my.
Like that just happens.
Yeah.
So great job.
Absolutely.
Uh, one of the, the better

Stoy Hall (32:24):
we can't play sound here, but, uh, but this was
great.
Yeah.
I'm gonna let you take this one.
This one.
So this

Cole Ingle (32:31):
is, uh, Charlie and Tiger post, uh, P and c, uh,
championship round.
Uh, this is Charlie, basicallyon how Tiger played yesterday.
That's the best he's ever playedin a while, says Charlie.
And that kind of shocked me.
Uh, so Charlie showing hisyouth, Charlie showing his

(32:53):
ability to poke a little fun ofhis dad, um, but also
remembering the shot master andwhy Tiger is the goat.
And how that's coming back alittle bit within this, uh,
tiger afterwards responds youand he is like, yeah, I used to
be good at golf.
Yeah.
So takes it all in stride, justkind of smirks.

(33:15):
Um, you know, like when you'rewatching your kid say or do
something.
Yeah.
Like, okay, you little shit bythe,

Stoy Hall (33:22):
I I his poise on, on the podium.
Obviously he's been trained.
Yeah.
But he's witty.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I think like Tiger hasbecame witty, right?
Like he did not that early on.
Right.
And he's picking that up.
Um, which I think Will, willbode very well in his career.
But Tiger, tiger was striping.

Cole Ingle (33:41):
Yeah.
Like just hitting a lot of golfshots.
His body hasn't allowed him tohit for several years.
He,

Stoy Hall (33:47):
he's he's healthy enough to hit every shot he
wants to and he says it right.
He just can't walk now becauseof Planter fe plantar refreshes.
Yep.
The leg.
He's gonna have a limp.
We've always talked about that.
He'll always have a limp, but itlooks strong.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I think there's a picture,and I don't know if it's in
here, but he was bending down toread putts.
Yeah.
Like squatting down like he usedto mm-hmm.
he was putting better.

(34:07):
So, um,

Cole Ingle (34:09):
no, it was good.
Uh, overall tournament for them.
Uh, they didn't end up winning,so, uh, disappointing for them
both, but ultimately, uh, fun tosee him back out there.
It's an event.
Tiger I don't think will evermiss, uh, as long as he's
capable of swinging a golf club,they get to play with JT and his
dad, who they're pretty muchfamily with.
Yeah.
I think a lot of Charlie'sability to witty banter and

(34:30):
stuff like that has come.
playing with his dad, who getsto play with these guys?
And we're on, they're out on thecourse.
A lot of these guys, especiallythe young, could you imagine
guys what they're saying that'scoming in?
It's what we're seeing in thematch.
Mm-hmm.
and those types of things moreand more.
And, and what's making golf morelovable is these guys are just
like us out on the golf courseexcept for really, really good

(34:52):
at golf.
Yeah.
At the same time.
At the same time.
So, um, you know, take thataway.
Um, however, I

Stoy Hall (34:57):
feel like to them, their misses are like our
misses.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, they're missing bylike a couple feet.
Right.
We're missing by yards, butlike, it's the same, like
they're miss we're making fun of'em.
Mm-hmm.
like a shank to them would beprobably a very good shot for
us.
Right.
But like, it's the same, it'sthe same thing.
It's just a matter of theirs ishoned in a little tighter.

Cole Ingle (35:18):
Really the difference.
Right.
But like when Tiger or JT you'rewatching, they miss the green
from 120 yards.
Like, that's something we theywouldn't have it.
Hey, we could do that too.
I could do, I could chunk thatone down.
So it makes you feel a littlemore, uh, human out there.
But, uh, you know, they're justbetter about getting up and down
than we are just every time.

Stoy Hall (35:36):
So, oh, uh, just a little video.
Oh wait, you found another videoof Mack Jones?
Yep.
Mack Jones.
Yep.
Uh, where's Chandler

Cole Ingle (35:44):
Jones?
Well, Joe, oh God.
That one hurt so bad.
Uh, for those that can't see,that's a, uh, Runaway racehorse
truck.
Just dump trucking A lady, um,on the racetrack who's trying to
flag it down like an idiot.
All right, so now we can get tothe World Cup.
Uh, world Cup.
What a match.

(36:04):
Um, oh my goodness gracious.
I feel like

Stoy Hall (36:06):
there's volume on and I there's nothing I can do about
that.
Argentina.
Um, so here's bu s celebration.
Mind

Cole Ingle (36:15):
you, if you think we do anything celebration wise
better than these countries thathave World Cup teams, you're
wrong.
Just straight wrong.
We've never done anything in theUnited States that today's

Stoy Hall (36:28):
the holidays.
They don't even, they're justcelebrating today.
Yes.
Like this isn't even today.
No, this was,

Cole Ingle (36:32):
this is after the gate, directly after the World
Cup.
Look at all the damn people andwhat they're doing.
And I mean, this is nuts.
And this drone, how many pe isthis?

Stoy Hall (36:43):
Everyone in the city?
Is this how many millions?
I don't, I

Cole Ingle (36:45):
mean, you don't even know.
Look where they're sitting.
Like they're on poles.
Yeah.
I mean trees.
I don't know.
This goes all the way down.
All the way back.
That's screen platform, I thinkon top of the train.
Oh, idea.
Like, that's messy on a mural.

Stoy Hall (37:01):
No, this this is just

Cole Ingle (37:04):
amazing.
Yeah, it, uh, just craziness.
Uh, but

Stoy Hall (37:07):
the, the, that was fun to watch that game like that
makes you wanna play soccer.
I don't care who you are.
You, you play soccer.
I mean, for the young kids, notme.
You wanna watch soccer and.
If you're a young kid watchingthat, that's fair.
That's fine.
I want to go be messy.
Do that.
Okay.
Or on that stage.
Or Mbae.
Or Mbae, yeah.

(37:27):
Although stars these remarksafterwards.
I didn't watch any afterwards.
It's fine.
It's just, he, he's basicallysaying that the, the South
American teams don't have toplay hard competition getting
into the match, into the WorldCup.
Oh,

Cole Ingle (37:39):
gotcha.
Which, I mean, why does itmatter?
You also lost,

Stoy Hall (37:42):
so the 30 team teams

Cole Ingle (37:44):
on Move on in there.
Um, Argentina lost their firstmatch, uh, of the entire World
Cup.
Biggest

Stoy Hall (37:48):
upset in, uh, work with War Cup history and then
didn't lose, didn't

Cole Ingle (37:51):
lose again.
Um, yeah, I think they mighthave tied once, but, uh, yeah,
boy that was fun.
Yeah.
I mean that, I don't, bobe had ahat trick.

Stoy Hall (38:01):
Uh, let me, let me back up.
For those that don't know, Iwanna get your opinion on, on
penalty kicks.
Okay.
So in, in pks, and I'm nottalking about the ones that are
like in the box type thing, butif you get fouled, shouldn't you
be the one to have to take thePK in your opinion?
Like, I, it, it bothers me and Italk both with my wife.

(38:21):
Like I got, I'm the one who gotfouled.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (38:24):
It's like free throw.
I should be taking the pk,right?
Yeah.
I shouldn't foul someone in, inbasketball and then someone
else.
But they treated like atechnical foul.
I get that.
But the

Stoy Hall (38:33):
technical should be like a handball.
That's a technical.
Okay, so why don't

Cole Ingle (38:36):
we have, so you wanna change the rule on Yeah.
How so?
Like, if, if I'm foul specific,foul on you.
Yeah, exactly.

Stoy Hall (38:43):
If it's

Cole Ingle (38:43):
handball or, yeah, I can get on that.
Like that, that's a technical,but I have several rules in
soccer that I would try tochange.
And I don't know that we want toget into the, uh, how would I
change the rules of soccersegment?

Stoy Hall (38:52):
Well, how would you give, just gimme one.
I gave you one.
So you gotta gimme one.
Uh, the offsides rule,

Cole Ingle (38:58):
you'd let them be offsides.
Uh, there's specific offsidesrules that take away from the
game that are not just cherrypicking as far as offense,
defense advantage, if thedefense does something stupid,
which makes me offsides, that'son them.

(39:18):
Got it.
As far as like Got it.
Overplaying a ball over pursuinga ball and then all of a sudden
I'm off sides.
Now if I'm just standing behindthe defense, absolutely not.
Yeah.
But in transitions and differentthings like that where my
offense makes a play and all ofa sudden I'm the one that's put
at a disadvantage because of ade stupid defensive mistake.

(39:40):
Absolutely.
I have no time for that.
That's right.
And also the flopping.
I mean, uh, that's no,

Stoy Hall (39:44):
gee, that's a whole different Nope.
But you know how to get rid ofthat red cards, get football
players on the field, knock'emout.
If,

Cole Ingle (39:53):
if you flop out, you leave the field for five
minutes.
Yeah.
Okay.
And so it's like hockey.
Yeah, I like it.
Penalty box.
And if you flop twice, you'regone.
I like it.
I love that.
And you cannot replace.
I love it.
Teams are not gonna playshorthanded.

(40:14):
Nope.
Teams are not gonna play withoutguys for five minutes.
They sure

Stoy Hall (40:17):
aren't.
So I change that real, realquick.
Yep.
Oh my God.
Here we go.
Uh,

Cole Ingle (40:21):
game.
Are we diving into thecommander's

Stoy Hall (40:23):
game?
Let's see.
I mean, there's a lot here, so

Cole Ingle (40:27):
I wanna save that for last.
So if we have other stuff,because there's so much to
unfold in that once the Raiderscatch, which there's not enough
good angles
to

Stoy Hall (40:36):
Oh yeah, of course.
Here we go back to our gizzytime.
Gizzy ball.
Just a gizzy

Cole Ingle (40:42):
ball.
This is the new tailgatingtrend.
Allegedly.

Stoy Hall (40:48):
It just wouldn't work very well.
You're gonna only burn onecharcoal soccer

Cole Ingle (40:51):
ball.
Yep.
And, uh, four rows of Lizzies.
Um, yeah.
That's awesome.
So yeah, Lizz ball, I had thesound on the whole thing and
that's actually flag a analuminum foil, UHY ball.
Excuse me.
Yeah.
Out of charcoal.
Yeah.
Spoken into

Stoy Hall (41:10):
that later.
All last wish we had a weatherapp that would help us determine
all this

Cole Ingle (41:16):
stuff.
Yes.
Uh, definitely.
Uh, stay tuned for that.
Um, games this weekend bur,first of

Stoy Hall (41:22):
all our weather.
We have a damn blizzard coming.
We have six to eight inches andfour degree weather or uh, 40
dig

Cole Ingle (41:29):
miles an hour.
Let's save this for ourtransition into NFL games this
week.
That's fair.
Real quick, we're going to hiton the, um, how can the.
Screw us over this week.
Segment, my Lord.
That has become now, I mean asegment.
Uh,

Stoy Hall (41:43):
unfortunately, F NFL refs suck segment is, is now
brought to you by So Bambu,

Cole Ingle (41:50):
can we first find the, which one do you want?
Hy Rush.
Which one would've been one ofthe last ones?
So the commanders are down 20 to12.
Um, and going in to score lateand on.
First down, Heineke scramblesand runs up the sideline and

(42:11):
nine times out of 10 shouldscore a touchdown here.
No flags are thrown.
Nothing like this at this point.
Wide open.
All he has to do is at thispoint,

Stoy Hall (42:18):
there's no one in this world that could say he's
gonna go short.
Yep.
Because the only thing he has todo is put his, his right foot in
the ground and just follow hisown path.
Fall left.
Now, I don't know why this guy'snot blocking him, but whatever.

Cole Ingle (42:29):
Fall left here, dive left.
Anything left anything?
Not directly at the pylon.
So he goes and falls down at theone yard line.

Stoy Hall (42:38):
I'm not even sure like I,

Cole Ingle (42:41):
so I don't know.
I think we're gonna see thisangle as well.
Um, for those that can't see it,uh, basically Heineke should
definitely score on this play.
Uh, he's got a lead blocker.
The on, I mean, he literally hasone place that he can run to,
not score, and it's outtabounds.
And he doesn't even get outtabounds.

Stoy Hall (42:59):
I mean, even then he could still dove.
There's so many things he couldhave done there.
I just don't, under right here.
Yeah.
First of all, I don't know whyyou're not blocking here.
No.
Second of all, I don't know whyyou're just not score.
Mm-hmm.
And then you get to hear, I'mlike, oh cool.
Oh, just

Cole Ingle (43:13):
cut, cut behind it, cut behind, jump anything,
anything dive, extend the ball.
He just collapses.
Just falls, folds like a cheaptent.
Actually I've had cheaper tents,not fold.
Um, so there's that place.
So that's the play leading up tothis next, the ref debacle.
The next play is third and goal.
They're on the half yard line toone yard line and Terry McCluen

(43:37):
is the receiver that needs to beon the line of scrimmage on the
outside checks with the ref.
Ref tells him to scoot up to beon the line of scrimmage.
Um, cuz he is a little bit backthere, which is correct.
And so he scoots up and the refand Terry McLaren's words tells
him he's good.
Um, and does not, is not shown.

(44:00):
Telling him to scoot up more isnot showing that he's off the
line of scrimmage or anythinglike that.
As refs would definitelyindicate, um, on every play on
the sideline.
This is an interaction between,say that again, between
receivers and referee.
Every play

Stoy Hall (44:14):
and sideline referees.
So all I've seen in the commentsfor everyone that have watched
this too Yep.
Is the fact that it's not therest job to get set or to, to
line up correctly.
Right.
It is definitely part of theirjob and they, every

Cole Ingle (44:26):
something they do, and they did on this play, they
communicated on this play theproblem.
The optics are terrible therebecause the ref goes directly
from telling him to go up todefinitely telling him or what
very much looks like him tellinghim he's okay to hand going
directly to the flag before theball is snapped.

(44:46):
The only thing that happens onthis play is that Heineke takes
a shotgun snap, he hands it offto the running back, who runs on
the end zone.
McLaren does not move on theplay.
There is no reason for a flagunless you are looking for one
and unless you are trying to dosomething in the detriment of a
team, the Washington Commandersin this specific situation, I'm

Stoy Hall (45:06):
good with.
If he's here, no adjustment anddoesn't look, first of all, I
think it's stupid anyway cuzit's a run.
Right?
Irrelevant.
Anyway, but like if he doesnothing, doesn't check, doesn't
do anything fine, fine.
Throw the flag.
He checked with you, you saidforward, he moved forward.
I don't care if it was half afoot or not.
Right.
It has made, everyone now knowsI'm on the line, like I'm

Cole Ingle (45:26):
on the line, which is the point of the rule.
That's the whole point to notdeceive the defense.
Correct.
So

Stoy Hall (45:30):
we're good.
And then, and then we're notgood because here's hand, uh,
let me, let me, let me, lemmeback up.
Okay.
I check, I move up.
He points hand to on flagalready, which I'm, I don't
understand.

Cole Ingle (45:48):
Yep.
He's ready to throw the flag.
Still ready to throw the flagin.
Flag, basically could not waitto get

Stoy Hall (45:54):
the flag out.
Okay.
So now I, I don't know if a lotof people caught this watch the
Giants defender if they, if.
watch.
So now arguing, watch him, hegoes, no, no.
He's not even celebrating thefact there's a flag because he
knows it's wrong.
Yeah.
Now I don't know if that's afact, but from what I'm seeing,

(46:16):
uh, I think,

Cole Ingle (46:16):
yeah.
I don't, I think he's trying tosay that like they weren't, they
didn't make it.
I don't, I think he's just like,cuz he can't see over there and
it looks like, but, but thething is he looks back and he
just goes, but he's just, Ithink he's saying that like,
cause this ref's gonna Yeah.
But all he sees is the linemanfalling backwards.
He can't even see the runningback, falling the end zone.
All right.

Stoy Hall (46:34):
I, that's how I interpreted based on

Cole Ingle (46:35):
that.
Like, either way, like, listenagain, the ref could not wait.
Look, I mean, he's pumped,faking, throwing his flag,
waiting for the ball to besnapped, waiting for a penalty.
That is not how you refereefootball games.
That is not a good look for theNFL because this guy should be
fined, if not suspended if notremoved.

Stoy Hall (46:52):
I, I've removed his ass.
Cause this is, this is a, it'sasinine because he tells him to
move right here.
Right.
He does another check.
Yeah.
Right now his arm's up to check.
Yeah.
That's a now verbal.
Mm-hmm.
So clearly he didn't sayanything and he already moved
his hand there.
Yeah.
So he knew he wasn't going tosay anything.
Mm-hmm.
if he said something, whichTerry said he did, that's all

(47:12):
hearsay.
There's Right.
NFL films pick up on itprobably.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I just.
Baffled me.
Yeah.
This one just was, you justcan't, it was so bad.
You just can't.
No one would've, no one would'veknown, argued, did anything.

Cole Ingle (47:26):
And here's the thing, it's 20 to 12 at this
point.
They still had to get a twopoint conversion to tie.
Correct.
So like, no guarantees, but youjust, you don't call this, you
literally just took six pointsoff the board that had nothing
to do with anything.
And you made up your mind tomake a call to impact the game,
which is directly against what areferee is on the field for.
Do not make a call that has noimpact on the game.

(47:49):
After you've given a,specifically, after you've had a
guy ask who has moved and thenhad nothing to do with the play.
You are looking to make animpact on the game.
Correct.
That you cannot make.
That's, that's not what you'repaid for.
That's not your job.
That one's just, there's, andthen we have the fourth down
play

Stoy Hall (48:10):
this, and this is the whole this.

Cole Ingle (48:12):
Yep.
We have the fourth down playnow.
So now they're back.
Um, on third and sixth, they hadan incomplete pass.
So now they're fourth and six.
Um, and they have fourth en goalfrom the sea yard line in order
to tie the ballgame.

Stoy Hall (48:25):
They're, I don't even know how many pe you can count
three penalties on this.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (48:29):
So the snap of the ball.

Stoy Hall (48:31):
Um, so wrap the snap.
Okay.
So pa, illegal contact it.
Fine.

Cole Ingle (48:36):
Holding now.
Holding now P interference.
Now holding again.
And now, and now this a hundredpercent pass interference.
Now definitely passinterference.
So you have three differentflags, all of which would give.
the commanders again.
First in goal.
Um, from the three.
The one, well the one if it'spast interference, the three, if
it's holding, like no matterwhat they're getting the ball

(48:57):
on.
First down, they're allautomatic first downs.
How do you not call this?
No flags come out and this wouldbe two, if not three different
refs.
Who would have a chance to throwa flag on this?
This would be side judge andboth back judges actually.
Cuz he'd have one in the cornerand one in the middle.
All of which would be in line ofsight.
Possibly, depending on whatother routes were run.

(49:18):
I don't even

Stoy Hall (49:19):
give a damn if you don't call this hands.
He is on top of him.

Cole Ingle (49:23):
Yeah.
He has both arms.
He looked, if he had both feetoff the ground, he would
literally be getting a piggybackride for the, the, that's how
bad this is.

Stoy Hall (49:32):
What are you supposed to do as an, as a receiver?
Yeah.
There's nothing.
And the ball.
He's awful.
Awful.
This

Cole Ingle (49:38):
comes, comes the ball.
Both arms on, shoulders

Stoy Hall (49:41):
in, if called, which it should have been.
No one can argue it.
Yeah.
What could you argue?
Right?
Nothing.
Let him play.
Get the

Cole Ingle (49:47):
hell out here.
Right.
So no argument there.
Another blown call.
So one terrible mishap byHeineke.
Uh, a what did this completeabomination of officiating was
Heineke on it for on it then?
Yeah.
Right.
Conspiracy.
You tell him not to throw aflag.
I want, I

Stoy Hall (50:07):
wanna point out something impressive though.
Mm-hmm.
by Samuel that like, like I, Idon't know how he just did it.
His, uh, arm sleeve gets pulleddown, he adjusts

Cole Ingle (50:17):
it, mid route, and then stops again, and then it
goes back down again because itgets pulled down again, which is
holding his arm, his arm sleevegot pulled down twice.
Oh.
That, that's how close thecontact on the skin was.
He's grabbing his entire arm andpulling his arm sleeve down
twice.
Once this, and twice this is,and now we're getting a

(50:38):
piggyback ride.
And now the balls arrived.
Um, just for the, the timing ofwhich they had to throw a flag
was not just a boom boom, like,oh, did he get here a little
early?
No, this is fine.
The guy I'm good with thatshould have had a ticket to
ride.
I'm not good with this.
Um, for this

Stoy Hall (50:54):
whole, I'm not good with that.
I'm not good with that.
Yeah, definitely not good with
that.

Cole Ingle (50:57):
The whole play, the dude needed a, a ticket for
admission almost.
Um, yeah.
So, yeah.
Um, commanders get screwed.
Uh, don't get a chance to go fortwo to tie the game.
Don't get a chance to end in atie or a win.
Yeah.
I'm not,

Stoy Hall (51:15):
we're not even Commanders fans, so, and they're
even in your division?
No.
Yeah.
That is just football robbery.
Yeah.
In a just disgrace.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (51:25):
However the game ends.
The game ends, but I don't

Stoy Hall (51:27):
care.
Like they have a touch forHeineke.
Don't be a dumbass.
Right.
Uh, ref.
Ref, yeah.
Those are,

Cole Ingle (51:35):
those are tough.
Just a super bad look for thenfl.
Um, which I mean, we've seen allyear, unfortunately, it's been.
Topic of great discussions goingto continue to be, they can't,
um, they can't insert themselvesin the game where they're not
belonged.
And that's what the rough thingthe pastor thing has become.
It's what these plays at the endof the game have become or not

(51:56):
become, uh, is just themdeciding, uh, things becoming
subjective instead of objective.
Uh, from a refereeingstandpoint, it's just horseshit,
uh, ultimately is what purehorse shit.
So gotta do better.
Uh, nfl you, you make way toomuch money.
Uh, a lot of comments comingabout about how the NFL's an
entertainment business so theycan fix games and all of that.

(52:18):
Fine.
Uh, the more you walk, the lessargument you have.
But those three plays, thoseplays right there, including
Heineke, right?
Like, so it's hard to say cuz Imean, you see a game like the,
the Patriots game, same type ofthing comes up, but I mean, you
can't make that shit up.
No, you can't.
Um, so that's not

Stoy Hall (52:34):
Todd.
There was nothing, there was

Cole Ingle (52:35):
nothing knows mm-hmm.
Um,

Stoy Hall (52:37):
so that was a, that was a, an unintelligent play.
Like there was a, a player whodoes not have a high
intelligence, right, who said,I'm gonna go win this thing,
right?
So I'm gonna throw it back to myquarterback who's not there in
front of a giant defender.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (52:53):
So back to.
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