Ep. 74: New #1 IN Golf...Also What is the XFL!?

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Stoy Hall (00:02):
Goon

Cole Ingle (00:02):
squad.
Woo.
It just ends so,

Stoy Hall (00:08):
so quickly.
Yeah.
I gotta figure that out.
Uh, I really gotta figure thatout.
Uh, might add in our intro withthat.
I don't know, but that's thatain't it.
Hey, that

Cole Ingle (00:16):
ain't it.
It's better or nothing, I

Stoy Hall (00:17):
suppose.
Yeah, it is.
You're not wrong.
You're not wrong.
How was your weekend?
Weekend

Cole Ingle (00:22):
was great actually.
Um, did a lot of little things.
Um, nothing too crazy, but, uh,did a family date night on
Saturday evening where weactually took the boys out to
dinner.
Wow.
With us.
It did it go well?
And it did.

(00:43):
Um, you know, nobody, uh, nobodyhad a, a public meltdown or
anything like that.
So

Stoy Hall (00:48):
they earned their

Cole Ingle (00:48):
right for another one for, yeah.
We kept'em on separate sides ofthe smooth.
Um, you know, I key play, I hadone, she had one.
Uh, and then we, I took actuallythe youngest to a high school
basketball game on Saturdayevening.
Um, and he made it through thewhole game.

(01:09):
Whoa.
Uh, so he he wasn't payingattention to the whole game, but
well, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,fuel.
I said This, uh, fueled bySkittles and Ring Pops.
Kept

Stoy Hall (01:19):
em going.
Yeah, kept

Cole Ingle (01:20):
them in the game.
He, uh, he did make it.
He was ready to go.
Uh, really, he made it throughtwo and a half, even like two
and three quarters, um, of thegame without a word.
And then end of the thirdquarter is when we had to go get
the ring pop.
And after that, that laughed.

(01:41):
It lasted about half of thefourth quarter, and then he was
ready to go.
Unfortunately, close game at.
But, uh, so there were a lot offouls.
What game was it?
It was, uh, Anny Girls, theirsub-state, semi-final.
Nice, nice, uh, last home gameof the year, um, where I used to
assistant coach, so knew acouple of the girls that are
seniors on that team.

(02:01):
Uh, so went and watched them intheir last home game.
So it was great to see them geta win and then obviously know
the coaching stuff there.
So, pretty well, huh?
Yeah.
Very well.
Very well.
Very well.
So yeah, it was a good win.
They actually play to go tostate tonight.
We should get Drew on

Stoy Hall (02:16):
Sioux, uh, Sioux City.
Think Drew would come on.

Cole Ingle (02:21):
I don't know.

Stoy Hall (02:23):
It would be, it would

Cole Ingle (02:23):
be funny.
It would be, but he just like,he really doesn't have interest
in, I know he loves to talk.
Yeah, but he doesn't.
Talk about like he like to talkabout Iowa.

Stoy Hall (02:34):
Yeah.
Well let's maybe just let himjust go to Iowa.
Iowa.
We don't mention Iowa muchexcept for their bad offense.
Right.
We weren't, I meant the stateheat.
Right.
The state.
The state of the state of Iowa.

Cole Ingle (02:45):
But yeah, let's go.
So, uh, good luck haw headstonight.
We weren't traveling to SiouxCity.
We weren't live cuz I neverclicked it.
Oh.
So we've just been talking forhour that

Stoy Hall (02:56):
the Goon squad.
All right.
Stoy Hall, Cole Engle, thegoons.
Um, so goon full that we didn'tpush live and we have been
recording for five minutes, sohey, hey.

Cole Ingle (03:08):
To you to like it's

Stoy Hall (03:10):
Groundhogs, Dave, to you.
I'm not asking you about yourweekend again.
I just won't.
That's

Cole Ingle (03:14):
fine.
Great weekend.
How was your weekend?

Stoy Hall (03:17):
I was thought we did a lot of cleaning.
Shit done.
And cleaning.
Oh hey.
Okay.
And got everything squared away.
New routine, nice

Cole Ingle (03:22):
spring cleaning type of stuff.

Stoy Hall (03:23):
Uh, no, not really.
Just get things back in order toget it back.
Routine.
You, because we were sick forlike a month, right?
So we got everything done and uhOkay.
New routine for the boys.
So nice.

Cole Ingle (03:33):
Yeah.
Like a cleaning routine forthem.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (03:35):
Yeah.
Every night they're gonna cleanthe table, do the dishes.

Cole Ingle (03:39):
Nice.
Yeah.
See you're finally, both of'emare old enough Yeah.
Together, correct.
To where you can kind of, kindof, Hudson does decent, like
getting stuff into the sink,feeding the dog.
So like, yeah.
We're small items.
Hayes wants to help, butunfortunately becomes less
helpful than bigger mess.
But like he, he does try, solike, there's some solace in

(04:04):
that.
He loves to try to like sweepand vacuum Yeah.
It's, uh, it's interesting tosay the least, but, oh, that's
great.
Yeah.
I can't wait till my kids areold enough to do all of the
chores that I don't, don't wantto do because mm-hmm.
I'm the person that does all ofthose chores in our house.
Why is that?
Um, well, my wife does all ofthe things that take a little

(04:27):
more detail.
Ah, that's right.
So like, I'm the un like yeah,you can take the trash out
without screwing it up.
you can do, you can do thedishes without screwing it up.
Like the things that she's not,uh, overly concerned about.
Basically trash dishes, foldingclothes.
Nobody likes to fold clothes.

Stoy Hall (04:45):
No.
Um, no, I, I'll wash theclothes.

Cole Ingle (04:49):
Yeah.
I'm perfectly fine.
That's the problem is we bothare washers and wash clothes.
Like, and she's not even good atwashing the clothes.
Let's be honest.
Still.
Just forget that they're in,they're all together.

Stoy Hall (04:58):
Yeah.
My wife, uh, does not trust mein folding.
So I don't fold.
I don't, I don't, I don't getthe ability or put away, I
cannot, I'm

Cole Ingle (05:04):
just good enough to be trusted with folding as I'm
told.
That's tough.
Uh, because she hates it somuch.

Stoy Hall (05:10):
Ah, it's more her, her disdain for it Yeah.
Than yours.
Right.
That's the problem.
And your ability, but, alright.
Hey, let's, uh, a little rundownof today's show.
Yep.
Recap the genesis.
Yeah.
Uh, hit up on our, uh, Twitter,Twitter, little Twitter feed.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and then dive into the HondaClassic.

(05:34):
That'll be, that'll be, that's aletdown.
I mean, the last two weeks havebeen really star, star studded.
Yeah.
Honda is, um, it's lackinggumption.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But the week after, I mean,that's fair.
Week, week after is a littlebetter, right?
Yeah.
But, so, we'll, we'll have thoseas we

Cole Ingle (05:54):
gon you have to.
The golf season's so long thatlike Yeah.
You just can't have.
No, no.
Uh, so you've got live, youknow, you got,

Stoy Hall (06:02):
you got Liv.

Cole Ingle (06:03):
Um, I'm gonna, we'll, I'll bring that

Stoy Hall (06:06):
up a little bit.
You got Liv.
Cause, all right.
Let's recap the genesis.
Um, overall thought it was very,very solid tournament.
Yeah.
Um, it was fun from the start.
It was fun all the way until theend.
Um, personally wish Homowould've pulled it out, but hey,
hey, that is what it is there.

(06:27):
Um, it was very interesting thisweek.
The, the greens, I think reallytripped up a lot of them often.
Um, they got going fast, um,which I thought was great.
Um, obviously there was a, a bigproponent of the tournament, the
host.
Um, seeing him play well was,which I thought he would.

(06:50):
Yeah.
Um, was great.
I mean, we, we were texting allweekend and simple fact is he,
was he, he was rusty.
He was not out of form or any ofthat.
It was just rust in my eyes.
Yeah.
Um, I think he wore down acouple times, but like on

Cole Ingle (07:06):
Sunday, yeah.
Not until Sunday though.
Yeah.
There was more stretching, moredeliberation, more.
weren't missing hits.
Yeah.
You ball speed was down about 10miles per hour.
Mm-hmm.
So there's, I mean, but youknow, three outta

Stoy Hall (07:20):
four, three rounds in like four holes.

Cole Ingle (07:23):
But the ball speed thing is, I mean, it's one thing
that, I mean, he is top 5% inball speed on, on a good day
now.
Yeah.
So like losing 10 miles per houris not something that will lose
him tournaments?
No.
Uh, it'll just be a matter of ifhe can control the golf ball

(07:46):
while he's losing.
Yeah.
Like if that's not, if thereason he's losing speed is
because he's mishitting, thenthere's a problem.
If it's just because he's a, alittle bit tired, but he's still
accurate, he'll be fine.
Correct.
He just has to adapt to that.
And to his biggest point wasjust like he's been doing all of
this practice, like you can'treplace playing.

(08:09):
um, in any sport.
Right.
But especially, especially golf,cuz you just can't recreate all
of the lies, all of the up anddown, um, the green reading.
Uh, all of those things are justthings that you can't, you can't
reproduce unless you know it'slive.
So,

Stoy Hall (08:26):
and his putting to your, um, what you said last
week mm-hmm.
it really was the difference forhim.
I mean, he left so many, so, somany

Cole Ingle (08:35):
shots and there's a lot of people who did, don't me
wrong.
Correct.
But he, he left mo he hit theball so well, so well for three

Stoy Hall (08:42):
days.
So.
Well, and I think that probablywon't what we're talking about,
he's wearing down, that's gonnawear on him.
Mm-hmm.
there's no way around that.
Like it's gonna wear on you.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but man, he left

Cole Ingle (08:52):
10, I mean, we're talking Yeah.
Eight to 10 strokes and withouta doubt, that's without even
going back and like reallylooking at any.
bad breaks or anything, youknow, just like that.
That's just literally like,

Stoy Hall (09:07):
six of those are four, four footers.
He missed like

Cole Ingle (09:09):
just, they're like, you and I would be mad.
Yeah.
About type of thing.
He left that many strokes outthere.
Um,

Stoy Hall (09:14):
so good to see though.
Yeah.
Good to see.
So it was good.
Um, it was great seeing him out.
Dry I'm bringing it up.
I don't care.
Uh, the old tampon thing.
Yeah.
That was, first of all, he knewgoing in, right?
Yeah.
Obviously they play together.
He had one.
He had one.
Um, and that was

Cole Ingle (09:32):
not the first time that's happened.
No.
Let's be very clear.
Like people just think that,like, oh yeah.
You just decided to bring it outand Yeah.
No.
Nope.
This is a, a constant back andforth.

Stoy Hall (09:42):
Correct.
And it was glorious.

Cole Ingle (09:45):
Yeah.
People hated it.
People, I mean, whatever.
Like, were offended.
I don't think, honestly, I don'treally think anybody was
offended by it.
No.
But they made a stink.
Yeah.
Which is fine.
ti I, I hated that he apologizedfor it, if I'm being honest.
Yeah.
But like, I understand wherehe's coming from, but like, if

(10:05):
you know, like you're TigerWoods, everything you do on the
course is gonna be seen.

Stoy Hall (10:11):
He did a, he did a very good job of fi it.
You saw he did that much, but

Cole Ingle (10:16):
I'm just saying, you're right.
You know that.
So what do you, like, you areeither okay with it and you're
gonna do it, or you're trying tobe so sneaky that you don't want
to get caught.
And it's like you're TigerWoods.
You can't, you can't get awaywith anything.
Yeah.
Don't I know.
Don't be ready to apologize.
I know.
I,

Stoy Hall (10:33):
I, I wish

Cole Ingle (10:34):
man, but I mean, I get somebody told him me, he had

Stoy Hall (10:37):
to.
I get it.
Yeah, I get it.
Yeah.
He, he's not as in control ofhis media stuff as much as he
used to be.
Um, the best part is no one, andI don't, I haven't seen this,
but do you rather like, JT tookit and threw it?
Oh, I didn't see that.
Like I, no, I saw it live.
I don't, I thought it was anote.
I didn't know what it was.
Oh, he, and he just laughed andthen ch chucked it.
But like, We don't have thechuck No.

(11:00):
Like to verify all of that.
Right.
That was the crazy part, butokay.
I thought it was fantastic.
Um, you know, then them endingfor rounders and warranted
Birdie, birdie, birdie and, ohman, it was, yeah, that was
great.
Oh,

Cole Ingle (11:10):
the end of day one was,

Stoy Hall (11:11):
was epic.
It's exactly what the tournamentand we all

Cole Ingle (11:14):
wanted.
Took the hype.
It, it got the hype for the, tothe rest of the tournament.
Tournament ended up being reallygood, but like yeah.
It, it really led in.
Oh yeah.

Stoy Hall (11:23):
And Tiger whooped his ass and driving like it was not,
I mean, he was, he outdrew Rorylike three times Yeah.
To the point where Rory had toactually physically say
something.
Yeah.
And say I have to take a degreedown cuz I, I can't do that
anymore.
Right.
So, good to see.
Great for golf overall.
Um, very solid tournament.

(11:44):
Mm-hmm.
uh, I was very impressed overallwith all the play.
Um, although not with our topforties at all.
Um, like at all in Bo.
hot streaks over fine, whatever.
Um, but overall, uh, I thoughtit was a really good overall
played tournament.
Um, and uh, excited to have yourun down and, you know, maybe I

(12:04):
won't get a whiskey shot.

Cole Ingle (12:07):
Yeah, I mean, last thing for me on Tiger is the one
thing that we learned or that Ilearned, um, I think maybe a lot
of people expected this, but heliterally told, um, whoever it
was that was doing the encoreinterviews that I'm playing in
the majors.
Yeah.
You might see me one or twoother times, and

Stoy Hall (12:26):
so I think that might have bumped up to three or four
now, but

Cole Ingle (12:30):
Right.
I mean, but he did not expandmore than that.
Mm-hmm.
basically just said after theround, that is literally all my
body can take.
Um, you know, obviously we hopeit gets better, but this season
is not going to be the seasonwhere that happens.
And so when you look at that andyou look at the rust stuff and
everything like that, it's justgoing to be hard for him to win.

(12:55):
I mean, these, everybody is sogood right now.
Yeah.
There are so many really, reallygood guys that for him to win it
is going to be damn nearimpossible.
And to say that about, I mean,you know, it, it's like, you
know, don't count Tom Brady out.
Don't count Mi Michael Jordanout.
Don't call count Tiger Woodsout.

(13:16):
I get it.
But he's just at a point in hiscareer where these guys are
playing two to three times amonth against all of the best
guys in the world.
Tiger's gonna come out onceevery two months and try to win
the most prestigious tournamentsthat all of these guys are
locking in for.

(13:38):
Or,

Stoy Hall (13:39):
you know, flip side of that, does he figure out with
technology and all the things wehave now, that there's a
different way to it if it's, ifthere's gonna be a person to do
it.
Right.
It's tiger.
Is, is there something to besaid with being able to play a
prep, a prep week, and then weekoff and go to Augusta for two
weeks?
Is there something to say?

(13:59):
No one's really done it to thedegree

Cole Ingle (14:02):
at which he's going to, but do you think that he, I
I, I don't know how much agreewith that, but I don't know that
his body is going to allow himto prep even though he is not
playing in the tournaments.
I don't know that he can go prepenough in order for his body to
still be healthy enough for himto get through the four days.

Stoy Hall (14:21):
That's the, that's, that's the thing.
We, we just don't know.
Right.
Um, and it won't be covered mucheither, although he did joke and
say there's gonna be a cameraaround mm-hmm.
um, you know, on that medalist.
So, um, I don't know.
I, I thought he looked good.
I thought he walked well.
Yes, fatigued.
But that's, to me the fatiguewasn't leg or um, his playing

(14:42):
faciitis or his back.
It was the fact that he hasn'tplayed.
a tournament in a year.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I think that was a fatigue.
This, uh, I believe he's gonnaplay at the players.

Cole Ingle (14:53):
I think that he needs to simulate that, that
more, and I'm sure that they'retrying to find ways to do that.
Right.
As far as how they sim how doyou simulate, you know, four
days in a row of 18 holes ofgolf within your training
regimen?
And like, again, he's got themost brilliant people on his
side that are gonna try tofigure that out.

(15:15):
So I think that will get betteras the season goes on.
I do too.
I agree with that.

Stoy Hall (15:18):
I think the players will be the, like, will be
brighter for us to actually see.
I thought whatever he did thisweek, if he got to four rounds
to win, win.
Right.
You're done.
Mm-hmm.
next.
Okay.
Can we have the full strengthright throughout mm-hmm.
Um, I'm not worried about hisputting or anything.
That's just a feel that'll,

Cole Ingle (15:35):
yeah.
That will come.
Mon Riviera is just not theplace to return with I mean,
nobody.
Went all like nobody wentthrough the week.
Not even not the best guy.
I mean, I think Homa led thefield in putting, and even him,
you know, at one point he was 15for 15 inside eight feet, and I
think he finished like 17 for21.

(15:57):
Um, so missed on Sunday,obviously.
Um, him and Ron both kind ofwent back and forth and had some
really good holes and really badholes on Sunday.
Um, two shot swings threedifferent times during the final
round.
So that was entertaining.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, uh, I'm notworried about the putter from
that perspective, just cuz not,that's not the place to judge

(16:18):
your putter.
No.
Um, and I think he knows that.
No, even though I think he knowsthat he should have had probably
a top 20 finish fairly easily.
Um, the way he struck the ballfor 40 Strike

Stoy Hall (16:30):
So there were some shots then.
Good signs.
Good signs.
Overall.
Good signs on Tiger.
We'll get off of him, but, uh,uh, run down.
Yep,

Cole Ingle (16:38):
run down.
All right, top to bottom one.
And done.
Um, really a solid week overallfor both of us.
Uh, you got your ass kicked, butnot because your picks were so
much worse than mine.
They were just, just bad enoughto to be a loser.
Um, one and done.

(16:58):
You had Jason Day.
Uh, at plus 4,500.
He ends up another solid,showing another top 10, uh, for
J Day.
Seems to be back in form.
Kind of reminding me of pheno.
Um, just how like he's justconsistent.
He's just there.
Um, you know, pheno is the sameway.
Um, obviously Tony broke throughwith a couple wins last year,

(17:20):
stuff like that.
So people are expecting moreoutta him this year.
Um, so this is one of thosethings where, just keep giving
yourself a chance if you're dayand does day win-win this year.
See, like, and I can see, Idon't even know if he's playing
this week or a Honda, I don'tthink, honestly, don't think he
is cuz he's played like three orfour weeks in a row.
Um, but I can see him winningone of those types of
tournaments.

(17:40):
I don't see him winning atournament with a stack like a
major or anything.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, but yeah, just solid.
So T 9, 540$5,000, not a badshowing.
Uh, for finishing top 10 there,uh, I had Houma, uh, was there
until, no, what was it, 16 Ibelieve, until he wasn't 15 or

(18:01):
16.
Um, and him and Rom kind ofswapped two stroke leads and one
stroke leads and flipped leads,uh, throughout, uh, the front
and midway through the backnine, uh, rom finally took
control.
And uh, he just, Homa had two orthree putts he'd like back and.

(18:23):
two or three drives he'd likeback.
Um, but so did Ro Yeah.
So yeah.
Uh, John Rom just showed againthat right now and with the win,
he moved to world number one.
Should have been before that.
That guy, my opinion scores fromanywhere.
It's really cool to see.
Um, it's very human golf.

(18:44):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, very like, man, just blastedit right off the T How the
hell's he gonna get outta thisone?
Or he didn't get outta this one.
I mean, on 10 short par four, hehits it into the trees.
Um, it's a b kind of a bad punchout by his, he gets out.
Yeah.
At least skulls a wedge into theback bunker.

Stoy Hall (19:07):
It was then when I was like, I think this is gonna
be the

Cole Ingle (19:11):
edge.
Right.
And then you, you're thinking,okay, he could double this hole.
Mm-hmm.
because Homa houmas on the greenor on the edge of the green, and
one ends up making a birdie.
Right.
Rom's pitching outta the bunkerfor par.
He leaves himself a testy sixfooter for bogie, ends up making
it two shot swing wrong.
You know, that's the first time,that first swing that that Homa
takes, um, the lead back.

(19:34):
But first of all, he saves, youknow, two really bad shots.
Yeah.
Um, ends up saving a bogey.
You know, in his mind it's, it'sone shot.
You know, obviously Homa had thetwo shot swing with having the
birdie, but ultimately, like themindset that Rom has developed
over the last two yearsspecifically because he was, he

(19:56):
still gets wound up, but like hewas a hothead before to where
that would ruin hi or endaround.
And that's where he has chacompletely changed.
And whether it's, um, having thekid, um, something, the
coaching, the counseling he'sdone through, he's gone through
all of that.
Right.
Um,

Stoy Hall (20:12):
oh, and he's getting older and

Cole Ingle (20:13):
he's older age just maturing.
Um, just learning to.
move on.
Yeah, it's over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It sucks.
I'm still the best golfer in theworld.
I'm gonna go make a birdie whensomebody's not expecting it.
I'm gonna go save a par whensomebody's not expecting it.
I will pounce on whoever whenthey make their next mistake.
And he did, and he did, um, twomore times in the round.

(20:35):
So there's some back and forth,and it's not like he was again
perfect through the rest of thatround.
Um, he hit balls off the tee tothe right and balls off the tee
to the left and found a way toscramble, found

Stoy Hall (20:46):
a way to win.
But he is world number one.
Yeah.
And has been, in my opinion forsome time.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (20:52):
And there's a, there in the news, uh, that when we
check Twitter, there's a, anamazing stat for him that, you
know, it's February 21st and theguy's already made almost 10
million this year.
So, uh, we'll look at that.
Guy's playing.
Well, max Homa second hottestgolfer in the world, uh, was
right there as well.
Mm-hmm.
again, a few shots for him.

(21:12):
Uh, and really not anydifference than rom The big
difference for him is, like Isaid, he was 15 for 15 from
eight feet in at one point andmissed three or four times on
the stretch.
Yeah.
That he hadn't in three days.
And that's why he was where hewas then, because he was leading
the field in strokes gainputting by like two, I mean, it
was something crazy or maybe itwas Ron by two in this field by

(21:34):
like 10.
I mean, it was something crazyabsurd, crazy.
Like how well he was putting onthose greens that were playing
extremely difficult for all ofthe field.
Uh, so good showing there.
2.2 million for for secondplace.
Second place, 2.2 mil.
Yeah.
Tough, tough.
They at the office there.

(21:54):
Wow.
And Homa was, I mean, I don't,you know, if you saw the end,
the interview there.
Yeah.
Um, that's his home course.
He had all of his family there,a bunch of friends there.
And how, you know, a guy isn'tplaying, playing for the money.
You just watch the interviewafterward and super authentic,
super disappointed.
Um, wasn't a more disappointedguy on the course, and he won

(22:15):
2.2 million because he wanted towin for his family.
He, you know, had an expectationset for himself.
That's his course.
And again, second place finish,2.2 million.
Nobody's gonna feel sorry forhim.
That's not where I'm going withthat.
But just understanding thatthese best guys in the world,
you know, they're past the pointof where they're playing for a
paycheck or they'd be on Liv,and, and

Stoy Hall (22:37):
it, it shows that it's ultimately he's a golfer.
Yeah.
He's like, yes, he's the best inthe world.
Mm-hmm.
but he's playing the gamebecause he loves to play the
game against the best people inthe world, against the best
people in the world.
Mm-hmm.
the money's just secondary.
Right, right.
Um, there's a lot

Cole Ingle (22:54):
of course this point for those guys.

Stoy Hall (22:55):
I mean, it can be, but I think it, I believe for
homeless specific, it always hasbeen.
Oh yeah.
And I think if you have thatmindset going into golf, it
probably makes, it gives you alittle different edge mentally.
Definitely.
Definitely.
So, by the way, um, I'm pretty,I'm pretty sure I screwed that
up.
Our shitty shot is always on theoutright winner.

(23:15):
I can't say it again.
Uh, but it's still the samefactor.
Um, I have the shitty shot forthat, but I, I think I messed
that one up.
Not true.

Cole Ingle (23:25):
Either way.
Either way, you lose, um,outright winner.
You had more kawa, uh, tidesixth.
Can't be mad.
Another great showing.
Uh, let's see if Tide nine was 545, he probably obeyed somewhere
around seven 800,000.
Um, Cantley we'll get to that.

(23:45):
Uh, I had him at, he finishedthird.
Uh, just a solid showing overallfor him.
Did you know

Stoy Hall (23:49):
that our top four.
Went top T nine plus better.

Cole Ingle (23:53):
Like, yeah, I mean we, we had four choices and they
all finished in the top 10.
Like that's, if we, if we can dothat ever again, then that's
pretty good.
So,

Stoy Hall (24:02):
Hey, no we will, you don't fade us on those, right?

Cole Ingle (24:05):
Um, you probably shouldn't.
So solid this week.
Solid.
Solid showing, uh, can't reallyfinish.
Third, uh, over a milliondollars that he got for
finishing third.
Uh, so solid showing for him.
Bouncing back, uh, from the cutlast week at the WM Phoenix
Open.
Uh, dark horses.
Uh, you had Keegan Bradley, hegot cut.

(24:27):
Uh, I had Ricky Fowler anothersolid showing just like day.
Um, he's been slightly behindday all year, but they've both
been solid all year.
Yeah.
Uh, T 20 for Fowler at plus5,500.
Um, so very good there.
And he swing's working.
Yeah.
That's good.
Um, yeah, I think he's justfinally mentally out of his own
way.
Yeah.
Um, and it's good to see all ofthe other guys, like he's still

(24:50):
world class, but all of theother guys that he's with or
against have just passed him upa little bit.
Lengthwise.
Yeah.
So if he's not perfect with theputter, perfect with the short
game, it's going to be hard forhim to win.
Um, just because I don't, I justdon't think overall he's not as
dynamic as those guys that arein front of him that he's

(25:12):
chasing this year and that he'sfinished behind this year, but
still a world class golfer.
Yeah, absolutely.
No doubt.
Um, top 40 will, Ew, we touchedon Hostler, let you down for the
first time.
Uh, plus one 30.
I had Justin Rose at plus 1 0 5.
They both missed the cutschucker on

Stoy Hall (25:29):
Rose for me a little bit.
Yeah.
I I thought he would've playedbetter.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (25:33):
So, you know, it's, this is a perfect example, um,
with Tiger is, you know, theseare the types of guys that, you
know, he's making the cut over.
You know, so you say, you know,making the cut big deal.
You know, he kind of shit thebed on the weekend, man,
whatever.
Like there's a lot of worldclassgolfers missing the cut every
week.
Rose just won just one two weeksago and missed a cut.

(25:55):
Yeah.
And then missed a cut so that,you know, it's golf's a, it's
always you're, you're alwaysright on the, a very, very thin
line, but razor thin.
Do you see

Stoy Hall (26:07):
that tiger stat?
I know we can talk a lot abouttiger, but Yeah.
I mean why wouldn't you, um,his, his career cut, um, top
like so if he makes a cutmm-hmm.
he finishes in the top, I thinkit was 10 mm-hmm.
54% of the time.
Right.

(26:27):
Career.
Yeah.
And that includes all the shithe's been through.
Mm-hmm.
that is re give me a coin fliptop

Cole Ingle (26:33):
10.
Right.
Ha.
I made the cut better than acoin flip that I'm gonna make
the top 10.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (26:39):
Right.
not to mention his cut number.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Anyway, that, that's sta like,actually it'll never be broken.
I've, I've seen a lot of stats.
We all heard of'em, but that onelike hit me.
I was like, yeah.
Whoa, wait a minute.
Mm-hmm.
he makes a cut and he betterthan a coin flip.
Right.

Cole Ingle (26:55):
And at, I mean at this point he's gonna miss
probably a few more cuts.
But does he, I mean, before notin the majors.
The guy just doesn't miss cuts.
I

Stoy Hall (27:03):
don't have, ultimately will he, will he miss
a cut in the major this year?

Cole Ingle (27:11):
I mean, it just depends on his health going in.
Think let's just say he'shealthy.
I think he least remains healthyif he's healthy now.
Does he ever miss a kid?
He's too cut too good.

Stoy Hall (27:20):
Like that's the, that's

Cole Ingle (27:21):
the, I mean it's just not, he's not, his golf
swing isn't hurt, but like, it'sactually gotten better at a US
open if they're playing and hetweaks something on Thursday.
Yeah.
It's gonna be, he tweakssomething.
I mean he just, there's so muchchance.
that so much of his game is tochance at this point because of
just his health.

(27:41):
He's got 3, 4, 5 different bodyparts that could potentially
give up on him at any givenpoint that would cause him to
not be able to

Stoy Hall (27:49):
play.
One of the announcers lookslike.
Oh yeah.
And he has a fused back, right?
Oh yeah.
We forgot.

Cole Ingle (27:54):
That was after they talked about the plantar
fascitis, the shoulder, the,the,

Stoy Hall (27:58):
obviously the leg, half leg, you know, the third of
the leg and spine

Cole Ingle (28:02):
is fused.
Oh.
Oh man.
Okay.
Robocop.
Um, but, uh, plated to fade.
Oh, player

Stoy Hall (28:09):
to fade.
Wow.
Do you wanna talk about this?
I'll talk about it.
No, let's go to, uh, shuffler.
You missed him cuz he got T 12and you have to do 10.
So he only missed, he can onlyat nine.
I mean,

Cole Ingle (28:19):
I'm, that's it.
I'm not, I'm not going to arguethat this week, but that would
definitely have been an argument

Stoy Hall (28:23):
had I lost that one a hundred percent.
But with the rules of the rules,we already set that.
That's

Cole Ingle (28:28):
it, is what it is.
But no.
Yeah.
So yeah, we, neither one of usreally hit, I mean, Scheffler
played fine.
He was never in contention.
They, I do not remember seeing aweekend shot of him.
No.
Number one golfer in the worlddid not see it was, I honestly,
I, for a second, like I doublechecked to see if he made the

(28:50):
cut because I'm like, I mean,we're gonna see Tiger, we're
gonna see a few other

Stoy Hall (28:53):
guys.
When I went to do this, I had toGoogle his name.
Yeah.
Just to find out if he made thecut or not.
Right.
I was scared that I was gonnahave another shot because he,
because he missed the cut.
Right.
But he didn't, but So

Cole Ingle (29:10):
he got 12 right?
Like, like to the point of Yeah.
Now

Stoy Hall (29:15):
that's how, obviously you've got again Tiger Buffer on
that.
But like he, after that, I, Imean

Cole Ingle (29:21):
we saw, we saw other guys throughout, you know, we
saw Rory.
We didn't see him.
No.
We saw a lot of Rory actually,uh, who played solid, but like
was still a better fade thanScheffler.
Yep.
Finished worse than JT finished.
Worse than Scheffler.
Yeah.
Um, sure.
So, yeah, it's just kind ofweird.
Crazy.
I have no idea where, I don'tknow where

Stoy Hall (29:40):
it's, there's no, I mean, and, and I don't mean this
in any of those ways, but I'mgoing to like, he's a, he's a
Christian Guy.
Like no drama, just mundane.
Like there's no excitement.

Cole Ingle (29:52):
But, but his golf is great, but his golf is fun to
watch because of I'm just givingswing.
I'm giving you

Stoy Hall (29:57):
reasons.
I got it.
I get it.
I get it.
I will, I wanted to watch himbecause his, his swing is weird.
I get right.
It makes me feel good, cuz thatmeans I don't have to change
mine.
Right.
Just be

Cole Ingle (30:07):
you.
Yeah.
Embrace it.
Um, and then can't lay, uh, hewas ninth and you, him and he
finished third.
You don't have to.
And uh, so two shitty shots foryou on that side of things.
Um, thank you Tigger to our backto Tiger.
Tracking won me money too.
Thanks, Tigger.
So our four Tiger stats were tomake the cut.

(30:29):
We both agreed that he would,uh, top 20.
I said that he would not, yousaid that he would.
Uh, and then the last two werethe JT uh, driving distance,
which I said that JT would,would average more yards, um,
simply in the fairway or hedidn't driving distance and it
wasn't close.
Nope.
Um, the other one, which was soclose four different times, oh

(30:52):
my gosh.
Was whether or not Tiger wouldmake a 40 foot or more putt or
chip in and 18 on Sunday wasthere.
And he had several otheropportunities.
Not to mention that guys thatplayed in his group chipped in
and putted over 40 feet sixdifferent times throughout the
weekend.

(31:12):
Or he did it twice.
Yeah.
Uh, and there were chip insfrom, you know, guys were
blasting in from the sand, um,you know, singing shots and I'm
like, because they're tough to,the greens are tough to hit.
Yeah.
And stuff like that.
There are just a lot ofopportunities there.
And he had them.
and just missed so many times.

Stoy Hall (31:32):
Flag, flag stick.
There was 2 40, 50 footers.
That a good roll?
Mm-hmm.
or two away.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (31:39):
I love everything.
So, uh, still love the side thatI took on that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, uh, so that was the, I keptwaiting to text you on Sunday.

Stoy Hall (31:48):
Well, the worst part is cuz like the, all the, the
other three were over, right?
Essentially.
Uh, well, top 20 wasn't, but itNo, I mean, like, it was over

Cole Ingle (31:58):
early in the, in by end of day Saturday.
It kind of was.
Yeah.
Basically.
I mean, he had to go low, haveto go 66, which, right.

Stoy Hall (32:05):
So like fourth, there was only one thing that could
have broke this thing up.
And that's all I

Cole Ingle (32:09):
Yeah.
All day.
The 18th one and I was justlike, yeah, it was there.
It was there.

Stoy Hall (32:14):
So soy only has two.

Cole Ingle (32:16):
Yes.
Um, but, uh, so I will join oneof your shots today.
All right.
Well

Stoy Hall (32:23):
let's, uh, let's go ahead and take these two.
We got watermelon.
Watermelon and black cherry.
Those logos are very close.
Oh, where do I, where do Istart?
Where do I end?
Oh, grapes.
Grapes

Cole Ingle (32:38):
are, ah, I love some.
Um, have you kind of staying ongolf before we jump completely
into the Twitter sphere?
Um, have you started full swingyet?
Yeah.
How many episodes?
Two.
Okay.
Um, we're through seven.
Jesus my wife.

Stoy Hall (32:53):
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Let's back up.
It came out on Wednesday.
Yeah, I watched an episode.
You said I'm not watching untilthe weekend.
Yeah, I watched in a secondepisode.
Yep.
Um, the next day Wednesday.
Yep.
We are now almost a week, sixdays later.
So either you are on seveneither

Cole Ingle (33:09):
Thursday or Friday.
Uh, we didn't have any shows towatch at home.
And I told my wife that I wasgoing to watch this Netflix
documentary that came out ongolf and kind of explained it to
her.
And you know what?
I knew about the episodes andshe's like, oh, I'd like to
watch that.
I said, that's what, and she'slike, It's not just watching

(33:31):
golf.
Right.
And I was like, no.
It was like, it's like at theirhouses and like following'em
around like they're feeling theyare.
And she's like, yeah, I'll watchthat with you.
Oh.
So therefore each night weusually watch an episode of two
of, or something, you know, ofsomething.
So therefore we've watched FullSwing.
So like free played to mybenefit.
Yeah.

(33:51):
That, uh, that she has gotteninto it as well.
Um, episode six.
Yeah.
Episode six is a Pheno Makawafeature.
Alright.
Um, so there's a lot of peoplethat I have met, personally met
in person, um, and like seen andI'm familiar with his family,

(34:15):
um, aunts and uncles and nephewsand oh my God, we get it.
Are in the videos.
Oh, that's cool.
And it's just, Oh, that's so andso.
Yeah, and like, oh, there's Lucyand there's Ginger.
And so it's fun to, to like haveinteracted but not only
interacted but like to have hadpersonal conversations,
obviously with Tony, but likewith all of them as well and

(34:36):
just kind of see and know that,that like they are exactly how
they come across on the TV andyeah.
Um, I think everybody says thatabout him.
Um, it's an interesting take onkind of how they go about, um,
his feature.
Um, cuz they kind of, in myopinion, attack the family life
a little bit.

(34:57):
Um, and they come around, butit's interesting to me that
that's the route, the route thatthey went.
Um, but all in all, like a verygood episode.
And, um,

Stoy Hall (35:08):
well I haven't got to six, so, so I can speak on one
and two.
I've got two

Cole Ingle (35:12):
left.
One was legit.
Yeah, one was, one was fired,two was two was solid.

Stoy Hall (35:17):
Two was it made you feel so sad for Keka?
Um,

Cole Ingle (35:22):
But golfers like that comes back to the, the
razor thin line that I talkedabout with golf is that those
best guys in the world are ashot, a tournament, an injury,
uh, family mishap away fromnever being able to get to the

(35:43):
level of golfer that they were aweek before ever.

Stoy Hall (35:47):
Well, and and we talk about this, it's golf is, I
don't know how to know thepercentage.
No one will ever know.
It's probably in the seventies.
Mental, like it's not a veryphysical tiger has 18,000
surgeries and is bionic and canstill perform.
It's not physical.
Right.
It's that mental And to seeKafka's episode, cause I could

(36:08):
speak to that episode.
It, it was almost, it was, itwas sad.
Yeah, it really was.
And you could understand.
Liv would've been, yeah.
So intriguing to him, thebattle, and I'm sure in, into,
from watching that episode.
And yes, it came out that hemight be mm-hmm.
having second, uh, guesses onthat and which he probably is.

(36:29):
I don't think he ever was sold

Cole Ingle (36:30):
on it.
No, I don't think so either.
But I don't think he was eversold on his game, getting back
to where he wanted to be.
So

Stoy Hall (36:35):
he was in a very poor mental state.

Cole Ingle (36:38):
You haven't seen the Dustin Johnson one?
No.
Okay.
No.
No.
Um, I, I'm on episode two.
I know.
I, I know, but in my mind I'mprocessing because same, you'll
see the exact opposite Oh.
Um, that you see in Keka.

Stoy Hall (36:53):
He's just like, let's, let's ride,

Cole Ingle (36:56):
gimme the money.
And like there's nobody morecompetent.
Huh.
Interesting.
And there's nobody that justdoesn't give a flying rip more
than Dustin Johnson.
But I did what I did.
I did it for a reason, is whatit is.
I'll be there at the majors foras long as they'll love me.
Love me, and.
that's all I need to compete andI'm gonna beat some ass when I

(37:17):
get there.
Like,

Stoy Hall (37:18):
do you believe if Keka comes back one, they let
him, I think they would.
Two.
Is that the, is that like theend of people moving to live?
Well, I mean two, like thebigger names, obviously.
No.
The young I don't think followmoney because, so Liv doesn't
die if comes back over as aweek.

Cole Ingle (37:35):
No.
Bec I mean, and for the exactreason we're talking about is
that, um, so like Thomas Petersand Mito, Perrera went this
week, um, which is, people don'tlike There's an episode on Mito
because he had the meltdown atthe Yeah, yeah, yeah.
US Open, I think it was orwhatever, whatever tournament
was.
Players maybe.
Um, but my wife's like, I haveno idea who that is.

(37:58):
And I'm like, yeah, youwouldn't.
I was like, well, like him andPeters are like top 40 players,
top 50 players that, that wentto live one because they didn't
win enough last year to getqualified for certain
tournaments.
And so like, Peters for example,didn't get in the Genesis field
and he's ranked like 34th rightnow.

(38:18):
And he tweeted before he signedwith Liv.
Oh, not good enough to get intothis.
Also, don't piss off tigerstupid.
Oh right.
But ultimately, like those typesof guys are going to get, intend
you to get enough enough fromLiv to not have to battle every
week to play in a tournament oryou know, whatever it may be.

(38:43):
That to me

Stoy Hall (38:44):
that means, cuz you're in it for yourself.
You're selfish personally.
Right.
You're not in it for golf.

Cole Ingle (38:50):
No.
But if they can, if theirthought is get in there now,
eventually something is going towork out between PGA and Liv and
so I'm gonna make the moneywhile I.
I'm gonna make the money sothat, you know, eventually maybe
we'll get, and you don't knowthe contracts that they're

(39:10):
signing with us.
No, that's the problem.
Which is problem.
The problem is like, you know,is it a two year contract?
And then I can go back to thepga right.
By that time they'll have apartnership.
Right.
So like, there's all of thosethings and none of these things
are really talked about in thedocumentary.
They're just, they're thingsthat, like, while I was watching
or going through my head oflike, I was hoping that we'd get
a little more discussion about,Hey, what was the contract you
signed with?
Yeah.
What was the agreements you hadwith how long did it take to,

(39:34):
you know, those types of thingsdon't ever get touched on.
So that was my, the fact thatNetflix had those guys signed
previous to Moving to Live ishuge because you get an inside
look at guys literally playing aPGA event with video.
And then the next week playingLiv, uh, Ian Polter.

(39:57):
is, is the prime example ofthat.
Yeah.
Which I think will be coming upin Yeah.
The next episode that you watch.
Um, but again, um, a mentalthing, an age thing, a mindset
thing.
Um, cuz for him it's Ryder Cupstuff.
And so like they go through thatbattle and like, what does that,
you know, what did that do?
Why did I do it?

(40:17):
What is my past?
And you know, how important issecuring X, Y, Z versus my golf
legacy in ncs?
It, it's selfish from a golfperspective, but it might be
you're all in for your familyand, you know, for 100 per, not
that those guys are in a badposition, don't get me wrong.
They're not.
But like, they can securesomething they can't secure on

(40:39):
the PGA tour, simply becausethey can't compete as well as
they could when they wereyounger.
Yeah.
And now they can go, like a lotof these guys have kids that are
coming up into Golf V nowPolter, like they have kids that
aspire to be professionalgolfers.
They can now kind of veertowards the junior caddy, the

(41:03):
coach perspective, and not haveto fully focus on whether or not
I'm qualified for that next PGAevent.
Whereas it'll be interesting tosee if you don't, then

Stoy Hall (41:15):
where do go, like, where does Poulter's kid go?
Yeah.
Is it about golf, which it canbe more like to your point,
right?
Polter can just focus on golfwith his kid.
Mm-hmm.
which would you would assumebring in more of the tradition
and all of the,

Cole Ingle (41:29):
all the things.
That's the thing that we don'tknow is that like with the
technology and with the cameraseverywhere and with mm-hmm.
social media and everything islike, we know Charlie Woods.
We don't really know how goodCharlie Woods was compared to
what Tiger was at that age.
Right?
Or we don't know how good TonyFina's son is compared to him at

(41:49):
that age.
or Polter.
It'd be nice to know, you know,Poulter's kid's like 17, 18
Kucher.
I know he's got a kid that playsquite a bit.
Stuart Sink.
We've seen his kid.
Yeah.
Like all of those guys, like, wedon't know how good they were to
know, like, okay.
Most of those guys' parents wereworking their asses off to make

(42:09):
their kids' dream a reality.
Yeah.
So they were doing whatever ittook at any hours of the day
that had nothing to do withgolf.
Right.
For the most part right now,some of these guys came through
and, you know, j JT is a thirdgeneration.
Yeah.
Um, you know, the dude's beenaround golf his whole life.
Um, his dad is his coach.

(42:31):
His dad is his best friend.
Um, but we saw that in theepisodes that he didn't, his dad
had a terrible relationship.
Terrible with his grandpa.
Yeah.
Because his grandpa was reallyhard on his dad and.
So his dad said, I'm not gonnabe like that.
And you know, it's usually oneof the two, like, you're either

(42:51):
exactly like him or you'recompletely opposite.
Yeah.
So like JT came from a differentupbringing from his dad, even
though they were both brought upin the exact same setting.
Yeah.
So like there's that opportunityon top of it as well.
And then, um, you know, Tony'sbackground is completely
different.
I mean, the dude learned,literally learned how to play
golf in a garage with amattress, um, with his brother.

(43:12):
So his dad never picked up golf,golf club in his life.
That's crazy.
Um, so those guys literally hadno golf background whatsoever
and hit enough golf balls intheir garage to be great.
Um, so to say you can come fromanywhere is literally shown.
Yeah.
Um, you know, in golf and, andall, all sports, I mean Right.

(43:33):
But Well, to a degree it's justlike when you actually get to
see it and they, uh, they goback to the, to the house.
Well, it's a townhouse in a likea row house.
Um, and they show the garage andyou can still see the golf ball.
In nipples.
Yeah, in the garage.
That's awesome.
That was one of the most amazingmoments of that.
That's cool

Stoy Hall (43:51):
episode.
So, but hey, check it out.
Yeah, it's great.
I'm

Cole Ingle (43:55):
gonna two you through on Netflix.
On Netflix.
Nine episodes.

Stoy Hall (43:58):
We know you have someone's password.
Okay.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (44:01):
Uh, You might be cut off soon though.
So far so and so.

Stoy Hall (44:04):
Hurry up watermelon Watermelon's not good.
And I did a bad swallow.
Yeah, me too.
Like, I've never taken a shotbefore.

(44:25):
What the fuck?
What was that?
Um, but that was not good.
It's very, it's not good.
I mean, when the grape

Cole Ingle (44:34):
burns

Stoy Hall (44:35):
watermountain burnt it look good.
Wonder if we just got a badbatch there?
It could have that.
Was that

Cole Ingle (44:40):
is that Or a strong batch?
That

Stoy Hall (44:42):
was weird.
Weird.

Cole Ingle (44:45):
All right.
Those are not low in A B Vanyway, but

Stoy Hall (44:48):
No, but that wasn't good.
All right, let's get to it.
Little, uh, little Twitteraction.
Uh, did you have time to readthis one at all?
Um, uh, no.
Chris Margo wins 43 and a halfmillion in lawsuit of recurring
injury.
So I'm gonna summarize it cuz noone really wants to read all

(45:11):
this.
Um, but essentially he was told,uh, that he has to retire due to
an injury.
And that injury was a, a kneesurgery.
Um, I, I believe acl don't quoteme cuz I, I don't remember, but
they didn't then fix hismeniscus at the same time.

(45:31):
They said I will leave it andthen was deemed later not to be
able to play again.
So

Cole Ingle (45:36):
Philly, are these like Philly doctors that did
this?

Stoy Hall (45:39):
Yeah.
Um, and then so.
Obviously it, it got brought upbecause he was a Philly player
and his biggest thing was like,I could have been on the Super
Bowl team.
Right.
Yeah.
That wasn't part of the lawsuit,cuz this was after, but Right.
It was very interesting the factthat he ended up winning 43 and
a half million dollars.

(46:01):
So like, he wasn't, we're noteven talking about a top notch
receiver.
Decent.
How, how did he But because oftwo different, I mean, he got
paid by two different institute.
So they they told him though,

Cole Ingle (46:13):
right?
Yeah.
After they, like so he had thesurgery

Stoy Hall (46:17):
Yep.
And the surgery was doneinaccurately because they didn't
then fix

Cole Ingle (46:20):
another issue.
Right.
But like, did they They knew itat the time though, that they
didn't fix it and they told himthat.
Mm-hmm.
And he didn't,

Stoy Hall (46:27):
well, I don't know if they told him.
It doesn't say, okay, I didn'tread the trial.
If they told him that they like,they just didn't fix it.
Right.
They just didn't fix it.
Okay.
So that's

Cole Ingle (46:37):
where I think the well that was my, my question is
how he would have known.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.
like, yeah, he, if you go in todo surgery on my knee and tell
me that there's somethingscrewed up in there,

Stoy Hall (46:47):
he, he went and gotten uh, you know, second and
third opinions and all that, butat that point he was already cut
and Right.
And the fell if mm-hmm.
you're injured, it's a cameover.
Right, right.

Cole Ingle (46:57):
And that's what happened.
I wonder how they figured thenumbers on that.
I don't know.
Because he wouldn't have beenpaid that much.

Stoy Hall (47:02):
He got, so a jury in Philadelphia has ordered Bradley
to pay, uh, Bradley's thedoctor.
Yeah.
29.2 mil.
And then the institute that heworked for

Cole Ingle (47:11):
14.3.
So I mean, how much of thatmoney you think he's actually
gonna see?
Uh, let's see.
Like said doctor might have alot of money, but I don't think
he's got 29.2 much going around.

Stoy Hall (47:20):
Uh, um, malpractice insurance cover all that.
So he would have, oh, he'sgetting the money now.
Up until probably 20% of thatprobably, I would assume go to
his attorneys.
20 to 30%.

Cole Ingle (47:32):
But I mean, he's getting the 29.2.
He's getting it.
what?
Uh, I mean, you probably have alot better idea than I do.
What amount would a doctor likethis have malpractice insurance
up to 50 million?

Stoy Hall (47:45):
Uh, well him who he's working on

Cole Ingle (47:47):
NFL players.
That's what I mean.
Ah, 50 to

Stoy Hall (47:50):
a hundred probably.
Okay.
Would, wouldn't even think.
Yeah, probably like wouldn't

Cole Ingle (47:54):
he?
I mean that would, and thenobviously it would be negligent
of him if he didn't.
Correct.
Okay.
Correct.
You're working on, and theinstitute itself, I mean, for
2.1 would

Stoy Hall (48:02):
have the money.
Right.
Two probably has insurance up toWazo too.
Like they're not gonna, andmaybe even like a billion
dollars.
I, I wouldn't doubt it.
Right.
Okay.
Or more

Cole Ingle (48:10):
like, I mean that's, yeah.
The, the institute didn'tsurprise me as like the doctor
might have, but I didn't thinkabout malpractice insurance,
medical negligence.
I mean, I mean a hundred percentthough, but good for him.

Stoy Hall (48:20):
And, and a lot of that is in, in, in the legal
world.
That's damages.
Right.
And then obviously part of likeyou, this is what his six years
ago?
Yeah.
It just got done.
43 mill.

Cole Ingle (48:33):
I wonder what he Super Bowl he's been

Stoy Hall (48:34):
doing for the last six years and then his teammates
and his team that he played forwon Super Bowl.
Yeah.
Uh, that's a pretty good SuperBowl for you.
Go team.
Go team go.
Alright,

Cole Ingle (48:47):
Justin Fields,

Stoy Hall (48:49):
this, this is the big news of the week.
By the way.

Cole Ingle (48:53):
Did you see this anywhere else though?
No.
As far as big news of the week,no.

Stoy Hall (48:58):
I'm saying big news of the week.
Cuz it's gonna, it has to comelater.
I don't, I don't, I don't graspwhen you sent this mm-hmm.
I, my, this was one of thoseones I was like, holy shit.

Cole Ingle (49:09):
Yeah.
I mean, I watched it again justto make sure, like, it wasn't
like, I thought it was some typeof spoof thing.
I was like, is he seriously?
Just like, this is like TerrellPryor, but like 10 times worse.
So

Stoy Hall (49:24):
on part of my take Justin Fields was on, and you
guys can watch the clip.
It's, it's on our stuff.
Don't worry.
Um, but, uh, quote, I was gonnastay at Georgia, but Ohio State
boosters were offering me bagsof cash to transfer.
I'm talking 300, 400 grand incash plus a Bens.
And that was, this was beforenil, right?

(49:46):
Cuz he wasn't, he

Cole Ingle (49:47):
recognized that by then nil wasn't a thing when he
was there.
Just fyi.
Yep.
Um,

Stoy Hall (49:53):
did win in back then.
Ohio State, pay more than s e cscore did win a national
championship.
Ryan Daye was a boss, right?

Cole Ingle (50:01):
I believe so.
Yes.
Maybe beat Clemson, right?
Mm-hmm.
And he had, I mean, he madesome, throw some, God, he made
some pro with broken ribs inthat game that were unreal.
Let's

Stoy Hall (50:10):
go back to Reggie Bush.
That's usually, that's probablywith a baker.
Yeah.
Got his Heisman taken away.

Cole Ingle (50:16):
National championships, taken down, taken
down,

Stoy Hall (50:18):
wins, all of that because of, you know,
essentially his mom gettingmoney.
I don't even know.
It doesn't matter.
Yeah, right before Nil.
Uhhuh Now that Neil's after.
They're not giving it back rightto'em?
No.
This man comes out and says thatI legit went to Ohio State three

(50:41):
years ago.
Three years.
Yeah.
We're not, not decades.

Cole Ingle (50:43):
2005 in the 2020

Stoy Hall (50:47):
comes out and says, yeah, though Ohio State boosters
were offering me 300, 400 granda and a bends.
And he admitted before nil.
Right.
How is there not repercussions?
I have no idea

Cole Ingle (51:01):
now.
That's why I

Stoy Hall (51:02):
sent it to you.
There has to be an investigationbecause it doesn't matter if
there's nil now or not thathappened, that occurred prior to
those loss and

Cole Ingle (51:11):
rules.
I just don't understand where,what perspective of fields this
is coming from.
Why?
Because his the quote was the,my favorite part.
Which one?
The The last one.
Oh, the last one?
Yeah.
Back then.
O State pay more than any s e cschool, Ryan Day.
A boss, like just, I mean, justthrowing coach out there.

(51:36):
Like, and I think in Fields'mind, this is all okay to talk

Stoy Hall (51:42):
about because of nil.
Right.
Um, if there's not re I, wewe're gonna follow this one.
This one we're following.

Cole Ingle (51:51):
Alls I can say is, if the NCA doesn't follow up on
this, first of all, they're, Idon't want them to, just to be
very clear.
No.
However, if you are going to beremotely consistent with
anything you've done in the last20 years of, and you let this
go, buying cheeseburgers.
Mm-hmm.

(52:12):
I mean, Reggie Bush, we hadTerrell Pryor.
Tattoo, I mean, whatever that we

Stoy Hall (52:18):
had an incident at Drake Univer, Drake University.
Okay.
We love that school.
Yes.
We went there.
It's Drake University.
Mm-hmm.
There was an incident with a, Ithink it was a girls tennis
player or something, washing hercar on campus with the hose from
the school.
Oh my goodness.
If this shit doesn't ha if, ifthis get your own hose, bro.

(52:38):
can't use the water eitherthough, so can't use the hose or
the water.

Cole Ingle (52:41):
But what if I put it in my own bucket?
Uh,

Stoy Hall (52:44):
it's the school's water that other students
wouldn't be able to use.
How would they know though?

Cole Ingle (52:48):
By the truckish?

Stoy Hall (52:50):
I don't know.
But they caught that.
If they don't go after this, Iwanted to know

Cole Ingle (52:54):
who was, who was complaining that she How did you
do, how does the n NCAA evenfind out about that?
That's the one, that's what Iwant to know.
Maybe they were

Stoy Hall (53:03):
on campus to do all the P checks we had to do, which
is again ridiculous.
But if

Cole Ingle (53:10):
this, did you ever pee for anyone else?
No.
Me neither Oh.

Stoy Hall (53:17):
Oh.
I need some stories.
Anywho, if, I don't

Cole Ingle (53:20):
think it was
ever

Stoy Hall (53:21):
used, if they if this No, I don't.
No, I, I, uh, Cashmore got donelike four times in like one
season, by the way.
Oh yeah.
Look at that guy.
He looks like he's on Roys.
Yeah.
Well, one white running back.
Come on.
Come on.
Let's, let's, what are you doingexactly?
Look, you're getting tested, butno, seriously, uh, if this shit
doesn't, if they don't go afterthat, ah, I don't, it's crazy.

(53:47):
I don't, I don't know what totell you.
Uh, well that one got taken downapparently, so.
That's cool.
What's, what do we get here?

Cole Ingle (53:57):
Oh, this is it.

Stoy Hall (54:01):
God, we'll just, I

Cole Ingle (54:03):
just let it, oh no, this.
This is, um, this is the end ofround one.
This is after like, first ofall,

Stoy Hall (54:11):
JT hit a bomb.
No,

Cole Ingle (54:12):
this is off the grid.
This is off at 18.

Stoy Hall (54:14):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
He hit a bomb off the, like onthe fringe.

Cole Ingle (54:16):
Yeah.
So he made it, tiger made it.
Um, where this resonated with mewas just like the moment where
Tiger was just like, man, it isso good to be back with my dudes
actually playing golf.
Yeah.
And like I just got through, sothis is after the first 18
holes.
Um, I think him, Rory and JTwent like seven birdies over the

(54:38):
last three holes, something likethat.
Um, it was pretty good betweenthe three of'em.
Pretty good golf.
And so everybody was makingputts.
You know, all three of theseguys are cheering for each other
outside of the fact that theywanna beat the shit out of each
other.
Absolutely.
Um, and so like Tiger makes, JTmade like a 40, 35, 40 footer.
Mm-hmm.
this Rory chipped in the holebefore.

(55:00):
um, this is, or two

Stoy Hall (55:01):
holes before this is Tiger's third

Cole Ingle (55:02):
birdie in a row.
Yeah.
Thir three bird in a row fortiger coming in.
Um, and he had the shortestputt, so, you know, like the
pressure of don't miss it, butalso, and so like, this was just
the culmination of like, herealizes he is done what day
one.
And just like, man, it's thesemo like just soaking in a
moment.

(55:22):
Really.

Stoy Hall (55:23):
Like, see my, I took it a little different route than
you.
Okay.
Um, I agree to that, but I thinkthere was a side bet.
I, I legitimately think therewas, there was something else.
And because my j It's more j t'sreaction Yeah.
Of him going

Cole Ingle (55:38):
son of, because did he beat him by a stroke on day
one?
I think I, because of that putI,

Stoy Hall (55:42):
maybe I'd have to go back and look maybe, but like,
that's what I get

Cole Ingle (55:45):
from jt, not Tiger's, just saying round
score.
Like, Hey, I'm gonna beat you.
I'm gonna beat you this round.
This 18 is mine.
And so like, do you think theyhave like 50 grand on it?
Oh, maybe.
Maybe more.
I don't, well, I mean, to thepoint of having 50 grand on it.
Like when JT and SP Yeah, that'swere in the planes.
Yeah.
They, they were legitimatelyplaying.

(56:07):
Take a 52 card deck, flip the,tell me what the top card is for
a thousand dollars a card.
Yeah.
So like they play with thousandslike we play with once.
Yeah.
Also

Stoy Hall (56:17):
random is shit to do that, that's a terrible idea.
I would never play that game.
Not

Cole Ingle (56:20):
even with$1.
No.
I might penny come with

Stoy Hall (56:23):
a corner.
I might go quarter, quarter,I'll go penny quarters too much.
All right.
Like the odds are awful.
Hey, you're the investment.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Uh, but no, this is what I gotthat and I just love it.
No, that makes sense.
I love that.
And uh, and uh, I,

Cole Ingle (56:37):
something tells me that it might not have even have
been money.
Oh no.
Something else.
It might be like, you know,wearing a jersey that you don't
want to wear or like you had toplay in this outfit and probably
play in private.

Stoy Hall (56:49):
Right.
And, and probably something in

Cole Ingle (56:51):
private in the club.
Yeah.
Something embarrassing.
Um, just how I love, I don'tlove that.
Now that you point that out,that makes sense.

Stoy Hall (56:57):
That's where I got it.
I didn't even watch Tigeractually.
I watched his smile, but it wasjt, right?
Yep.
No, that makes sense.
Um, alright, so we're justgonna, after the first round it
and I, I believe it got worse.
Uh, unofficial, uh, averagedriving distance round one, uh,
Rory obviously three 15 and ahalf, tiger.
Three 11.7.
And then, uh, JT back somewhereyonder at 2 95.

(57:20):
And

Cole Ingle (57:20):
that's why you Yeah.
What a, what a sissy only hiddenat 2 95.
Geez, man.

Stoy Hall (57:25):
They, yeah.
Oh, so it was this, it was, um,it, this tournament made me
realize like that they all candrive the ball cuz I was
watching it all and I'm watchingtheir carry.
Mm-hmm.
two seven s two eighties, twonineties, three fifteens.
And I'm like, this course isn't,this isn't Mexico.

(57:50):
We're not talking about this isdownhill everywhere.

Cole Ingle (57:52):
Yeah.
No, I mean, fairways were firm,but.

Stoy Hall (57:56):
They, they were, there was a lot of run out and,
and Tiger's nice little like,

Cole Ingle (58:00):
I mean, he's hitting the ball lower now because of
his, how his swing is.
He has to play a lower, and it'swith the irons too.
He talked about that a littlebit.
But, um, I mean, still, like jJT is not a bottom half of the
tour driver, just so people areaware.
Like this, this is the guythat's in the top half of the
PGA tour driving distance and,

Stoy Hall (58:22):
and, and, and these boys just getting after it,
getting half of it.
I love it.
I love it.
But here we go.
Oh, uh, we'll go ahead.
Full screen.
Here it is.
Yeah, there it's a lot of peopleare like, oh, it's Photoshopped.
I think I got the, the P G A T UO R on Twitter.

(58:45):
No.
Nuh no.
Mm-hmm.
Tiger did this.
Yeah.
And.
It's so comical because the bestpart is, it's one of those
things where like you go up to afriend and you're like, Hey,
hold this.
And they always like, you'realways gonna do that.
And grab it.
Grab it.
Yeah.
And then he looks at it, which Iwish different video and goes
Yeah.
And basically says, F you.
Yeah.
I, as I would've if you would'vedone that to me.

(59:07):
Right.
Um, but completely fair.
A hundred percent fair.
Yeah.
Like this,

Cole Ingle (59:15):
it's pretty good.
Just a good old practical joke,you know, like, uh, good to be
out there.
I mean, this is something thatyou would do though on, did they
do home Tuesday at the club?
Like, you know, like, yeah, wejust carry one in the, cuz like,
ultimately Tiger had one in thebag.
Just, you know, he, he, nobodyknew brought him.
No, he knew this was planned.

(59:36):
Yeah.
Obviously in their practices andall this stuff has a box in his
bag just in case, because this.
Often quite a bit.
Yeah.
that's what I was

Stoy Hall (59:44):
thinking.
My first initial thought waslike, he, he knows beyond a
doubt that point.
At some point this is happening.
Yeah.
Now, obviously this was af uh,this was on number nine, so like
he had to feel it out and thenit was like, no, no, I'm back.
Like this is where I alsothought we had talked about last
week, like mentality wise.
Right.
He knew

Cole Ingle (01:00:05):
his golf game was good enough.
I'm good.
Yeah.
As long as I don't get

Stoy Hall (01:00:08):
hurt.
Right.
I'm good.
Yeah.
To me, flex.
Mm-hmm.
Flex.
Tigger Flex.
Loved the hell out of that.
Uh, yeah.
This is

you.
Yeah.
So this is, this is a housethat's on the course.
It just cracked me up when I sawit.
I'm sure it's a nice house andall, but I can think about, all
I can think about is how muchthat damn retaining walnuts
cost.
And it felt like such like a, anold guy, a dad, like a, like the

(01:00:42):
dad probably.
Like look at that thing.
Oh man, I can afford the house,but the retaining wall, no

Stoy Hall (01:00:47):
way.
I mean, half the house is in,

retain the air.
Yeah.
Right.
The pillars, you know,everything like that.
It's just, you know, ridiculousthe stuff that people that, you
know, don't have all that money.
Think about like, yeah, that's,man, the, the pillar, the six
pillars on that thing are worthmore in my house, but

Stoy Hall (01:01:02):
damn.
Mm-hmm.
uh, as we get into a little,little more football, Andy Reid,
can we all agree?
Um,

I mean, is he a top five coach of all

Stoy Hall (01:01:14):
time?
I, I don't know if you can namefive better.

I mean that, that's the argument at this point.

Stoy Hall (01:01:21):
Could you.
His tree's great.
On top.
Like we're not, this isn't evena tree of coaches, right?

Um, well, I mean the argument for current is B
Belichick.
Um, hard to argue against thatguy.
Um, as the goat, uh, now in, ingeneral of, of all coaches,
Belichick is one, two.

Stoy Hall (01:01:43):
You want a hot take?
Yeah.
Here it is.
Who doesn't?
I put Reid above Belichick.
You don't.
Why?
Because of the last two.
Because he's done it.
He's done it everywhere.
Okay.
That, I mean, fine.
Belichick's done it with Brady.
Okay.
Brady's done it withoutBelichick.
I mean, I don't disagree, so I'mjust saying hot take.
I would rather have Reid is CanI get a hot, hot take, right.

(01:02:05):
A hot take button.
Uh, but anyways, tweet byJustin.
Uh, Whitlock, uh, under AndyReed one, Donovan Mcna was
headed to do the Hall of fame.
Not wrong.
Two, Michael Vick landedenormous contract.
And, uh, second career post.
Uh, in his, first of all,post-prison play.
First of all, um, I peta in allthe dog lovers.

(01:02:29):
The fact that Michael Vg went toprison for two years over dog
fighting something that like,was a, a cultural thing I do not
agree with.

I mean, do you argue with a lot of people about It
was illegal.

Stoy Hall (01:02:43):
He did something.
It was, it was illegal.
I get that He funded somethingcompletely illegal.
How many, how many in the NFLcan do domestic violence and all
of that and are still playing?
Oh, I man, hey, I, I get itagainst animals.
Had all

of the but against humans thing is they had all the
evidence than they can build

Stoy Hall (01:02:58):
the case.
But I, I bill, I feel more forhim because it was a cultural
thing, how he was raised, didn'tknow any better and No, but you
had to

like know your, like no

Stoy Hall (01:03:08):
kidding.
Where you are in the spot.
You have to, you have to, youhave to get intelligence and
understand.
Understand, yeah.
But by that time he wasn't.
I don't disagree

there.
I don't, I completely don, hejust ran

Stoy Hall (01:03:18):
it.
But I mean, either way then,then you go to his brother who
kicked his way out of his own.
Andy,

Andy Reid re he boosted

Stoy Hall (01:03:26):
his re boosted that.
Yep.
And then, uh, Alex Smith ProWiller Three outta five seasons.

Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, Andy Reid made it tough.
Andy Reid made it tough toreplace Alex Smith with Patrick
Mahomes.
Let that sink in.
Yeah.
With, with even Chiefs fans.
Yep.
I mean, not to say that theydidn't want to get, but like it
was like, and Alex, he's

Stoy Hall (01:03:51):
doom, bro.
We were good.
Good.
We're good.
Like, and then Mahomes, two ofyou piece two Super Bowls.
Yeah.
Stop crediting everyone else.
It's Andy Reid.
Now, let's not be wrong.
It's, it is Andy Reid.
Yeah.
Um, the adjustments andeverything he.
Right?
He makes players better.
Mm-hmm.
he's a player's coach in regardsto that, his scheme.
Yeah.

I think Andy Reid, the one thing that doesn't get
talked about enough is I thinkthe tough love that comes from
that guy is probablyunderstated.
I think everybody just thinksthat he's just this big teddy
bear, that he just gets alongwith everybody and has these fun
play calls.
It's not publicized.
I don't think that peoplerealize how much conversation

(01:04:33):
goes on between probably him andhis quarterbacks, but him and
his players in general, as faras expectations of excellence
and stuff like that, because youdon't get those results being a
fluffy teddy bear in practice.

Stoy Hall (01:04:48):
No, but I, I, I do believe probably in those open
practices mm-hmm.
prior to or after he's, he'stelling them some choice words.
Absolutely.
In the close practices.
Mm-hmm.

but he's not belicheck.
but he lets you be you.
It's an anti Belichick.
He lets you be you and how hecomes off to the media mm-hmm.
and how he comes off on thesidelines.
Like you're never gonna reallysee those things that you can
see.
No.
No.
And so, like he's very unique inthat perspective that you don't
see a guy like that have thesuccess that he has as much as

(01:05:26):
you see the guy that is veryfiery.
The par sells the Belichick's,those types of guys.
I'm gonna

Stoy Hall (01:05:31):
bring it back to our, our Drake world.
Mm-hmm.
like Drake University.
Right.
All of you Drake alum out there.
Um, I'm gonna bring out to twocoaches that I had, although I
didn't ever practice once withone and that is recruited by
Ash.
Yeah.
More Lucy goosey the storiesthat you guys had.
Yeah.
Um, were something else.
But he wasn't the lousiest.

(01:05:52):
No, but no.
Or the goofiest.
No, but I'm just saying Oh yeah.
We have that successfulobviously, you know, won
championships.
Yeah.
And then I'm gonna skip over thefreshman year, um, and I'm gonna
go to Coach Creighton.
Who is more Belichick esque atthat point.
Mm-hmm.
changing the rules, buckling itin all of the small things that

(01:06:13):
we fought against, by the way.
Won championships.
Absolutely.
Um, and, and that's kind of thecontrast I want to put in.
This is Andy Reid was more ash.
Mm-hmm.
and Belichick was, you know, ismore c creighton in regards of
that, but still got things donedifferent ways.
Oh, absolutely.
But who would you rather haveplayed

for?
A hundred percent.
I mean, you're gonna go

Stoy Hall (01:06:35):
with Can I go have fun?
Yeah.
Can I, can I go bounce at, atPeggy's?
Like, can I, can I do thosethings?

Like those, can I say to that, that while wanting
to play for one versus the otherdoesn't necessarily mean that it
was better for the program orthe person Correct.
Or anything like that?
A hundred percent.
And everybody deals with that.

(01:07:02):
Type of thing differently.
I mean, there's guys that, that,that stopped playing when those
type of things, you know, whenthat came and that happened for
us.
And that's fine.
Yeah.
Because that wasn't, that's notwhat you had recruit.
Like that's not why you decidedto come there.
That's not your personality,whatever it may be.
But that just shows like whenyou have the best guys, if you

(01:07:24):
don't have the leader that canget the best guys, the message,
the best guys aren't gonnaperform to the level they should
be at any, in any sport, right.
And sometimes when you have thereally good guys that do
respond, you get better results.
Um, and we see it every year inall of the sports.

(01:07:44):
Um, you know, when that, thatunexpected team comes together
and because of leadership andpersonalities and all of those
things.
Um, but that's all reflected inmy opinion, you know, from the
coach and how he chose or shechose to handle.
That roster of people andknowing how to manage those
people to their greatestsuccess.

(01:08:06):
Absolutely.
So,

Stoy Hall (01:08:07):
absolutely.
Well, with a win at the Genesis.
Yeah.
John Rom earnings for the seasonwill move to 9.86 million on
February 19th.
Yeah.
Doing Illa pretty well.
Doing all right.
Doing doing.
He'll be okay.

(01:08:27):
Money.
Money is good there.
Is he a client?
No.
He should be prom.
John John.
Just saying my number's still 91 1, bro.
Still love.
I love golf.
Um, but I'm gonna put yourinterest in your family first.
I got a, uh, I just need some

lessons.
He plays with Tony a lot.
So that, that's my end for

Stoy Hall (01:08:46):
John.
All right, let's do it.
You can be their agent.
Let's do this thing.
If I could get

around with Tony, John.
That'd be bad.
Oh my goodness.
Predict good.
You know how many balls I'd hitout bounds?
all of them.
Yeah.
I probably just wouldn't playall

Stoy Hall (01:09:04):
of them.
I'd probably, or it, it wouldliterally be one or two things.
Either you play the best youth,best friend of ever, right.
Or shanked, like Hazel shanks.
Yeah.
I don't personally any who, um,QB switch situations in the NFL

posted.
Use my driver though if theywanted to.

Stoy Hall (01:09:20):
Yeah.
Hey, your driver's a little off.
Hey, you wanna

try this out?
You wanna try this one?
I think this one's broken.
You want see if it works?

Stoy Hall (01:09:26):
Yeah.
Then they just bomb it andyou're like, oh, it does work.

All right.
It's for sale.
Yeah, it's fine.
Right?
For every ticket to every game.
Nobody, every the tampons I'dbring out to that match.
So

Stoy Hall (01:09:38):
just like they're on the team, it's like boom boo.
What's that?
Oh, just a semi full of tamptampons.
You

about to outdrive you.
I'll drive you.
By the way, did I tell you howI'm playing for the women's tee?
Playing from the up.

Stoy Hall (01:09:53):
Teases, boys up, teases, uh, and not the women's
Pros.

No, you guys.
Is one more back?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
One more.
They created one back there.
Six.
Six more back.
I'll see up here.

Stoy Hall (01:10:01):
Uh, alright, you uh, you sent this one out here.
So yeah, what was the question?

Um, is this our last one?
Cuz I, this'll be a little morein-depth conversation, so if you
had anything else, unless, doyou wanna go into the XFL stuff
now?
You wanna wait until after this?
Uh, we've got separate

Stoy Hall (01:10:17):
conversations.
Let's, let's add with this one,this one's a little, a little
more in depth.
So, um, first we're gonna bringthe, the X FFLs.

Yeah.
Quick ex xfl, couple of, uh,different rules changes.
Um, I really like the ex XFLuniforms by the way.
Yeah.
Um, I'm down, I did a little bitof a in-depth look into those.
Yep.
And so

Stoy Hall (01:10:35):
before, um, before I jump into Yeah.
What I'm about to show you therewith the review, so.
Um, AJ McCarran and his teamdon't.
No idea who?
They're St.
Louis Battle Hawks.
Oh wow.
Good

for you.
Yeah.
They

Stoy Hall (01:10:48):
have a couple Iowa State guys on there.
They're down 12.
Yep.
With like a minute, 45 minute50.
Mm-hmm.
And, uh, they go down and score.
They go down and score.
Yep.
So you get your six points.
Okay.
Now I'm down six.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Um, you got an onside kick?
No, no, no.
First of all, I gotta go fortwo.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I'm gonna go for three.

Oh, you're going for three?
I'm going for three.
So after they scored, they weredown six, but they can now be
down three.

Stoy Hall (01:11:12):
I'm gonna go down.
I'm, I'm gonna go for three.

Okay.
You're going for three?
What?
Where are you gonna put thatball?
Uh, what

Stoy Hall (01:11:17):
is it?
15?
I actually dunno.
It's the 10.
The 10.
Oh, it's only

the 10.
Which was surprising to me causeI thought it was five 10.

Stoy Hall (01:11:23):
Feel like it should be the 15.
I agree.
But whatever.
So a hundred percent agree.
They get that they're downthree.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Again, under, under a minute,minute and a half.
Yeah.
Let's, uh, let's on set.
Oh, no such thing.
No, you cannot On side kick.
It's fourth and 15

now.
Yeah.
Okay.
So in order to keep the ball, AJMcCan's squad gets put into
position to where they have toconvert a fourth and 15.
I believe it's from the 20 or 30yard line, ah, of the opposing
team.
It's something to be No, it's,it's, it's in scoring range for
the other team.
Because that's the advantage ifyou get it.
No, if they don't get it, theother team would get it in

(01:12:01):
there, correct.
Yeah.
In, in scoring.
So it's like at the other end ofthe field, basically.
So like the other team isimmediately in scoring position
where they're either gonna takea knee or get points, a field
goal or whatever.
Um, if you don't get it, so it'sfourth and 15 from let's say the
25 or 30, and you have to getthe first down in order to keep
the possession.

(01:12:22):
Right.
Instead of an onsite kick

Stoy Hall (01:12:25):
and, uh, SCRs around.
Yeah, there was a little nicelittle

diamond out.
Yeah.
20, 25 yards, which I don't knowif that's, I think that might
have been the play.
maybe.
No

Stoy Hall (01:12:35):
ORs.
Is that the end?
I don't think we, I don't thinkwe ever sent it.
Oh, okay.
That's

why I'm just, I saw the play.
I'm sticking here.
But yeah.
So

Stoy Hall (01:12:40):
my question is, so then they get no, I mean, let's
finish it before that.
Right.
So then they get that and thenthey go down and score.
Mm-hmm.
a touchdown.
When the game to win the game, Imean, there was like minimal min
middle school numbers, 10seconds, but they're up four.
So they went from down 12 down,12 in a minute.
50 to up four.

Mm-hmm.
without, and the other teamnever saw the ball.
And the only chance that theyhad to get the ball was to stop
them on fourth and 15.
All right.
So your question, do you likethe rule?

Stoy Hall (01:13:17):
I kind of do.
I kinda lock it now as adefender.
If it it before 12 with aminute, 30 or minute 50.
We should never, ever lose.
Right?
In my opinion, I don't.
I like the fourth and 15 onsidekick because I don't say
kicks are, are there?
The chances of hitting them areso low.

Right.
But I mean, fourth and 15 in thenfl, here's my problem with
fourth and 15.
Fourth and long fourth inanything, uh, in the nfl there
are too many penalties that areautomatic versus,

Stoy Hall (01:13:46):
uh, okay.

Valid.
Valid.
That's the only problem I havewith it.
Fourth and 15, I would probablymake it fourth and 20.
I fourth and 15.
Very like it is, there is a hugedifference between scheming a
play to get 20 yards andscheming a play in the NFL to
get 15 to I agree, to 17 yards.
I agree.
So it would be fourth and 20 forme and Elon

Stoy Hall (01:14:06):
Musk would agree.
Um,

four 20 Fair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Four 20 smoke if you got'em.
Yep.
Um, so I would say fourth and20.
And the other item would be adefensive holding or an illegal
contact would not be yards anautomatic first down, yards
only.
It would be yards and a replayof the down.
So mm-hmm.
um, any penalty that did not getyou 20 yards?

(01:14:30):
Would not be an automatic firstdown.
Those would be the two thingsbesides that I have no problems

Stoy Hall (01:14:33):
with.
I'm even cool with the spotFallon on, uh, passive appear.
Yep, absolutely.
Um, replay the down from thatspot.
Yeah, absolutely.
Mm-hmm.
that would, that would have tobe the change.
I agree.
I agree.
I also don't, I also think the,the, uh, the going for three
need it,

it needs to be from the 15, pump it back 2 5 15.
I'm fine with that.
2, 7, 15,

Stoy Hall (01:14:54):
whatever you wanna do.
Yeah.
It's gotta go back ten's not,it's not

right's enough.
Mm-hmm.
I agree with that, but the,yeah, the onsite kick, I am even
fine with the onsite kick.
Fourth down having its own setof rules.
Like I don't need that to alwaysbe the rule in that situation.
The, these are the set of rulesbecause of, I mean, the onsite

(01:15:18):
kick has its own set of rulesalready, so it's not a big deal
like on fourth and whatever youdeem it to be, you must, these
are the

Stoy Hall (01:15:26):
Z.
Yes.
What do you think about thekickoff?
Did you see that?
Yeah.

What do you think?
Uh, I like that as well.
I personally have never had anissue with the kickoff kickoff
return.
I mean, the guy can step kick itout of the end zone.
I don't really care.
Um, obviously the chances for areturn are way less just because
first of all, you've got a lotbigger chance for a bigger hit
when you're running down thefield, but you also have a lot
better chance for a biggerreturn because guys have time to

(01:15:50):
get outta their lanes.
See?
See, I think it's opposite.
You think that there's time tospring it because we're only
five, 10 year.
What?
I, by the time he catches it,they're like 15 to 20 yards
apart.
No, no one gets to move.
I understand that, but like theblockers don't No, I know.
But that's what I'm saying.
Like by the time, but so likethey're catching it at like the
five to end zone and they'restanding at the 20 and 25 or 25

(01:16:14):
and 30,

Stoy Hall (01:16:15):
whatever.

They're only five reds partners.
Yeah, but I'm just saying thatlike, so they're in their lanes,
but are you just saying thatbecause they're stagnant at that
point?
and that guy gets 20 yards

Stoy Hall (01:16:25):
to get going it from a, from a blocker.
And I was a wedge guy.
Loved destroying this shit outtapeople.
Right.
It is easier for me to blockwhen you're running full speed,
because guess what?
You can't change directionsRight.
As easy.
That's fair, right?
Yeah.
Um, as if it's one on one.
Yeah.
Right.
But also that 1 0 1 can get youway out of your lanes and you're

(01:16:47):
also

gonna, so ways change.
Personnel won't, I mean Oh yeah.
Change their personnels.
Different mean, shouldn't youhave offensive linemen in there?

Stoy Hall (01:16:54):
To a degree.
There's a lot of things youcould do.
Just like a screen passessentially.
Run plays, right?
Like, like offensive plays.
This is what I mean.
Like, screw, who cares?
I'll, I'll pull my left side allthe way to the right side.
Like there's, so I don't, and Idon't know all the rules, right.
But like I'm saying, those arethe things that, do you think

kickoffs just need removed?

Stoy Hall (01:17:13):
No, I love hitting.
Okay.
So they need to go back to whatthey were.
Okay, let's bring in wedges.
I don't player safety.
Move it further back

and make'em knock, pull the hell out, make'em
returned it every time.
Ah, kick off from the twenties.
Absolutely.

Stoy Hall (01:17:24):
Okay.
What Otherwise take it out.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like I, yeah, that's my thing.
If, if they went back to or goto what they're doing the next l
mm-hmm.
Take it outta the game.
Okay.
If not, make it a play, what'sthe point?
Right.
So we're on the same page there.
All right.
So, uh, let me, we got sound.
We're good here.

(01:17:45):
So just, just listen to this.
Um, we're only gonna do, maybeit gives us a chance

to listen in to Dean Blandino back in the X Ffl
command center.
My best look near handheld.
I've got control.
I've got the left foot down inbounds.
Let's go to our line for you toget a spot.
Dean, I had some traffic there.
I can't hear you.
Yeah, Mike, we're looking at thecatch at the

Stoy Hall (01:18:05):
sideline.
I've got a really good look.

I've

Stoy Hall (01:18:07):
got control and I've got, all right, so you got
enough of that?
Turn the sound off.
Um, and, uh, we'll, we'll justkeep playing it for the reason
of we need something in thebackground.
Um, so Dean Blandino, by theway, who is always on every,
seems like every time I watch agame Yeah.

(01:18:27):
Is the one up in the booth.
And essentially what he says is,Hey, I see the right foot down.
I see a catch.
I explained it.
This is where he is at.
All right.
Hold on.
Let me get you exactly the timeand the down.
Yeah.
And we're good.
And the best.
The thing about this is, was thetransparency.
Yeah.
It nfl you tested this out causethat's what the X FFLs about.

(01:18:50):
You better implement this shit.
Yeah.
It was fantastic.
I mean,

this is exactly like what we're seeing at home.
Like it shouldn't be differentthan me and you watching the
game, seeing a replay and havinga conversation.
Correct.
And this is not, this is exactlylike.
N we're like even on plays thatare 50 50 or you know, calling
the field versus calling on, onthe field.

(01:19:15):
Like we're, I, I know that I'mnot going to agree with every
reaper.
Right.
However, I don't want them to beable to hide behind conversation
or lack of conversation or whywasn't this discussed?
Which is the feeling we get asfans, as we watch and they

(01:19:36):
blatantly miss what we're seeingon television.
This takes that away.
Yep.
Now, are there challenge flagsin xfl?
I don't think, I have no idea.
I, I think that it's all justreviewed at top and then it's
direct report, which I'm okay.
We don't have a ref going overto a stupid ass camera on the
sideline, anything like that.
So absolutely love.
I hope that that better getimplemented.

(01:19:57):
I agree.
Implemented immediately.
Absolutely.
So here we go.
Uh, last thing here before wejump into the Honda Classic for
this week in golf is QBsituations in the nfl.
Um, we'll talk about thisthroughout, but there are five
QB situations that we are goingto put, um, all players in the

(01:20:23):
NFL into, uh, five buckets.
One is Patrick Mahomes.
So you are the chief, you havehim.
Um, two is you have a guy on arookie contract, um, who has
appeared to be able to go toe totoe or to lead your team in a
way necessary in order to go toeto toe with Patrick Moms.

(01:20:45):
Mm-hmm.
Um, three is having a guy on avery expensive deal that has
also proven competitive withMahomes over the last few
seasons.
Four is having a rookie youdrafted and are developing and
think may be able to do one ofthose other two options.

(01:21:08):
Um, and five is you'reoverpaying for an average
quarterback.
So when I read this, I read itas a cowboy fan, as you should.
And I read Deck.
Prescott is not on a rookiecontract.
Nope.
He's on a fairly expensive deal,but Daks really not even on an

(01:21:30):
expensive deal.
Um, but he is not going toe totoe with Patrick Mahomes.
Nope.
And so therefore his numberoverpaying for average.
Um, and you know, it's easier tolook at from an out.
Like, I don't even know thatwe're overpaying.
I just think we're paying foraverage.
Yeah, I agree.
I would agree.
Um, we're not overpaying d Imean No, you're just paying for

(01:21:52):
average.
We're overpaying forexpectations.
Yes.
Um, Yeah.
And so therefore we're in bucketfive, and that means that we
need to trade or draft, um,based on this, which I, I, I, I
actually love the scenario herebecause whether you like
Mahomes, whether you think yourteam is the greatest, no matter

(01:22:13):
what, like this is a very realYeah.
Thing for ev for everybody, foreveryone in the NFL to realize
like, okay, where are we gonnafall in the draft picks?
Where are we gonna fall in this?
And like, how willing are you tobe the bottom of the first round
in draft picks?
Because you're never going tomake it out of the second round

(01:22:34):
of the playoffs or whatever.
Maybe we're talking cowboys,we're talking vikings.

Stoy Hall (01:22:39):
Hey, you made it to the playoffs for first time in a
while, so don't, uh, I mean,it'll be too crazy.
I'm proud of you.
You know what I'm talking aboutthough.

Oh, I do.
Um, so now we go to the Falcons.
Yeah.
And, um, and the Falcons areluckily enough.
in, in what I would consideroption four.
Yeah.
Uh, do you see that as well?
Yeah.
Okay.
So you, you have a rookie orrookie contract mm-hmm.
that you drafted and aredeveloping.
Absolutely.
Um, so you're okay with losingat this point?

(01:23:09):
I, I'm

Stoy Hall (01:23:09):
not, I don't wanna overpay for average.
Right.
Which, by the way, thequarterback prior to the rookie
coming in Yeah.
Was that, yeah.
Uh, although again, I think he'dbe more than the, I think we are
paying for average.
Right.
I really do not think we areoverpaid.
No.
Paying for average.
Right.
Um, I, I would love to be innumber two.
Yeah.

(01:23:29):
If you had a rookie that can goto toe for toe.
So, um, so,

but I'm not paying for expensive.
We've talked about our teams.
Yeah.
Um, I don't know how many teamsyou want to get into, uh, but
off the top of your head, whohas a guy on a rookie contract
that can go toe to toe withMahomes?

Stoy Hall (01:23:49):
on a rookie contract.
Uh, Herbert's still on rookie,right?

Uh, I don't, he's getting close, but it,

Stoy Hall (01:23:56):
it, it's getting talking guy about rookies.
Can we just, I mean this says rrookie contract, so no

rookie contract cuz it's all about how much guy, how
much team's paying.
So if he hasn't been paid yet,Herbert in Burrow.
So, um,

Stoy Hall (01:24:11):
is he Yeah,

he's on a rookie.
Yeah.
Rookie's.
He's a rookie.
Still rookie.
Tell next year.
Um, Lawrence would be, Lawrencethe first guy that came to my
mind.
Those three.
Those three would be my, yep.
Three.
So like, so like that's Bangals.
Who else is there?
Bengals, Jags and chargesChargers.
Who?
Purdy would've been the guyuntil the fact that he's
probably literally not gonnaplay next year.

(01:24:32):
Yeah.
Um, that would, that I wanted todiscuss like, would be fun,
healthy, pur.
is like the guy for this becauseof number two, the where the
49ers got to this.
Absolutely.
Um, Hertz is still on a rookiecontract.
Oh yeah.
Um, he played in the Super Bowlthis year for those scoring
album Um, pretty damn good.
Sorry.
Hertz played pretty well in theSuper Bowl even.

Stoy Hall (01:24:54):
Yeah, but like, again, we talked about this, he
only really proved to at leastme in the Super Bowl.
So it's still, he's not, he'snot there yet.
For me, for me, he is there, butI mean, like in my mind, I still
forget.
You

also have to know that he only has to play in the
NFC and there's no way, sotherefore he doesn't have to go
to toe to toe with Mahomes untilthe Super Bowl.
Correct.
And like, in my opinion, he wenttoe to toe this year in the
Super Bowl.

Stoy Hall (01:25:17):
Yeah, he outplayed Mahomes technically,
statistically, I

mean in the first half, minus, minus

Stoy Hall (01:25:21):
half, first half, second half minus dropping

the football.
But first half, second half, heoutplayed in the first half.
Mahomes, outplayed the secondhalf.
So I mean, therefore toe to toe.
Yeah.
Um, your deason making placelove zero place zero.
Just makes one stop.
It's a different game.
Zero place.
So yeah.
I mean there's four quarterbacksthat are in that having a guy,
an expensive deal that can gotoe to toe with 15, um, that's
gonna be the bills.
Yep.
Um, are the first team that aregonna come to mind from that

(01:25:45):
perspective.
I agree.
Uh, Tua also on a rookiequarterback or rookie contract
in Miami.
If he's healthy, that's gonna bea guy that may or may not be
considered.
Um, here's another guy like MackJones, like where, I mean, those
guys don't really, in myopinion, they were, those were
kind of guys that didn't fit.
They don't go to, they kind offit option four.
Um, you're still developing.

Stoy Hall (01:26:06):
Yeah.
The, the, the, the upper, upperechelon of four.
Right, right.

Um, Deshaun Watson is five.
Um, the worst of

Stoy Hall (01:26:14):
five.
Is there a overpaying for below

average?
Yes.
Right.
Which I mean, you expect him tobe better next year just from
getting the rust off.
If he's not, time will tell.
Um, you know, you look at theTexans, the Colts, the Titans,
everybody else.
I mean, those, all those arejust, all the Vikings that need
quarterbacks.
The Vikings are just overpayingfor slightly above average.
I mean above average.

(01:26:36):
For above average.
I mean, they're paying, they'redefinitely overpay.
Top

Stoy Hall (01:26:40):
five.
Does he go, is he toe for toe

in the po?
No.
Okay.

Stoy Hall (01:26:44):
You know, post that, that's the question, right?
Is he, is he?
No, he's, um,

the Broncos again, nfc Broncos are, yeah.
Completely overpaying.
Um, Raiders don't even know whothey're gonna have.
Play quarterback, um, you know,I mean, saints, poor kids.
Saints looking for another, youknow, looking for a quarterback.
Panthers looking for aquarterback.
Uh, Cardinals hoping that, um,they've got their guy.

(01:27:09):
Do you see what their OC

Stoy Hall (01:27:10):
said?
Hmm.
Or the new head coach said like,I wouldn't be here if, if he
wasn't the quarterback.
Yeah.
So bold statement.
Yeah.
And I don't mean bold because ofwhat he said.
He just literally tied himselfto

Tyler.
Yeah.
That's it.
I mean, Tyler's proven he canplay really well in the nfl, so
like, don't get me wrong, butRight.
Last year it was overpaying foraverage.

Stoy Hall (01:27:35):
Oh,

absolutely.
So, I mean, we'll see fromthere.
Um, where that goes.
Yeah.
Justin Fields, who would fallinto category four, uh, for the
Bears.
Uh, Aaron Rodgers at this pointis a, oh God, complete, uh, five
Darkness Um, you did it?
Yes.
Got it.
He got it.
Um, and then the lions are, thatmight be the one that doesn't

(01:28:00):
fit.
No, that, and it was the one.
Like the team is on the uptick.
He

Stoy Hall (01:28:05):
doesn't compete.
He can't, he can't go toe totoe.
No.
He's, I believe above average.
But they're not, they're notoverpaying.

No.
I mean, they're paying foraverage.
He's average.
They're paying for slightlyabove average.
Yeah.
I, I feel like the Lions and theVikings kind of, although
cousins is getting paid a lotmore money.
Yeah.
Um, but they have so many moreissues.
Their defense is so fraudulent.
So, um, Daniel Jones is thequestion that I had,

Stoy Hall (01:28:30):
I was just about to bring this up cuz I was alluding
to mm-hmm.
that, uh, uh, we had the in-lawsover for dinner last night.
I made bomb tacos.
Just want you to know, um, butI, I was bringing it up.
Daniel Jones fired his, his, uh,agent.
Mm-hmm.
once, allegedly, by the way,once 45 million a year.

(01:28:57):
Now I get the quarterback markethas been outta control.
So I can't even tell you whatlike, That number is, I damn
sure know it's not 45 millionfor his play.

He was really good last year though.
I mean, 45 mil.
The thing is, is like, again, Idon't know the market, those
things start becoming just anumber.
It's like the price of doing nbusiness for a quarterback.
If you have a guy who you thinkremotely can lead your team,

(01:29:30):
you're either getting rid ofhim.
No, uh, yeah.
And hoping

Stoy Hall (01:29:34):
that you get I'll franchise him for 28 a

better.
Right.
And then

Stoy Hall (01:29:38):
like, most probably would've happened.
I, I don't his market's, Lamar'sgonna set his market, in my
opinion.
Right.
He will not be signed beforeLamar.

And if you think that your coach, they got a new
coach can lead a differentquarterback, you know, as a g
from a GM perspective.
Mm-hmm.
can leave a differentquarterback to hire.
ground, then get rid of him.
Don't waste time.
Get rid of him.
Yeah.

(01:30:07):
Don't, Fran, I mean you canfranchise him for a year.
Get a guy in there that youthink is better and like, let's
not screw around with it.
Let's not do what the Vikingshave done with cousins, which
was extend, extend, pay out theass and have no one behind.
Right.
They have no one.
And their problem again is on, Imean, in my opinion is on
defense.
Yes.

(01:30:27):
Okay.
Way more so than offense.
A hundred worse, way worsequarterbacks than Kurt cousins
have won the Super Bowl.
However, in today's N nfl, thethought is you have to have a
difference maker at quarterback,Jalen Hertz.
You know, if those two teamsplay 10 times, Jalen Hertz wins
the Super Bowl probably fourtimes.

(01:30:49):
Not gonna say it's 50 50, but hedefinitely wins multiple games
the way he played.
Um, and then just the way thatthe Eagles Chiefs set up, you
know, whatever it is like.
if I'm just looking MahomesHertz, we're not having that
conversation.
If I'm looking Eagles Chiefs,those teams play 10 times.
The Eagles are winning multiplegames.

(01:31:09):
Mm-hmm.
three, four, you know, maybefive.
But you know, the chiefs aren'tscoring every possession of the
second half in X amount ofgames.
You know, like, I'm sure youknow, things are gonna change on
both sides, but ultimatelyspeaking, like there's just not
that big a difference.
Right.
And so I just like, that's whereit gets tough, you know, if

(01:31:31):
Purdy's healthy, the 49ers givethe Eagles a 50 50 game.
Um, if he's able to play fourquarters, in my opinion.
Um, I just think that the 49ershad the scheme, uh, to be able
to, to make it tough on them.
Not to say that they could scoreevery driver or anything like
that, but like ultimately thatthat would've been a game had

(01:31:52):
Purdy been healthy.
Um, so, you know, that goes allthe way back to look what the
Jaguars did with the chiefs, youknow, I, I mean mm-hmm.
it's close.
It's a, it's a, it's a thin linethat teams have to tow and you
have to take advantage whenBurrow's young, when Lawrence is
young, when you know when thatguy that you think is it before
you pay him.
Right?

(01:32:12):
And that's the thing with theChargers too, is, is your
defensive line.
Get your offense figured out.
You got a new offensivecoordinator, you gotta make a
run, you gotta make an upset.
You gotta play the twice chiefstwice every year.
Like they're familiar with you.
You gotta figure out how to beat'em.
So

Stoy Hall (01:32:30):
as a quarterback, and you can't answer this because
you don't have a contractsitting in your lap for this
amount mm-hmm.
But as a, just a player like,yep.
Why, why screw over yoursuccess.
Mm-hmm.
by taking so much money.

I think a lot of it has to do with one my situation.
So do I like what's going onwithin the organization?
These are all things that wenever really get to hear about.
No.
Unless something goes bad.
Right.
Um, so do I like theorganization?
Do I like my new head coach?
If those things are good, then Ialso need to look at my peers.

(01:33:14):
Mm-hmm.
who, and then I need torightfully identify my peers,
which I think is the biggestthing is like Daniel Jones,
who's his peer group in the nfl?

Stoy Hall (01:33:24):
Not Deshaun Watson?
No, not Lamar.

No.
I mean, that's another guy thatwe didn't, I mean, well,

Stoy Hall (01:33:31):
we'll get to, that's gonna be a big thing for the,
and I didn't wanna bring him upbecause of their whole
negotiation, but

like, I mean, he's asking for a lot, but then he
came out and defended the Ravensand so like, and they got hurt.
It's not to say that Joneswouldn't defend the Giants, but,
so my question is, I guess, dothese guys look.

(01:33:59):
at the team cap?
Like do they understand theglobal And if they do and, and I
don't, so that like that's notfair.
A fair question.
Overall, my guess is that they,the yes, they do do, and their
agents

Stoy Hall (01:34:15):
do.
That's that

agents and they come back with, okay, this season
you've got X, Y, Z, they shouldbe able to do X, y, Z.
Like, don't let'em screw yououtta money, yo.
But you know, Kyler got thisamount.
So like, tell me Kyler Murray,don't Daniel, Daniel Jones on

(01:34:39):
Kyle Murray that Daniel Joneshas never played as well as Kyle
Murray has in the nfl.
Correct?
I've been made for a couplegames, not first season.
No difference.
No, you can't get Kyler.
No.
Correct.
Um, if you're being

Stoy Hall (01:34:53):
real.
So my, my thing is, and and doesthis eventually burst this
quarterback number?
I hope so.
Bubble is, um, okay.
You want 45 mil, right?
That's who that's working on.
Dan Jones.
Sorry, Daniel, we're attackingyou.
Not sorry.
Um, 45 mil, that's what youwant.
Mm-hmm.
based upon normal contracts asis.

(01:35:15):
If he's asking 45 mil fullyguaranteed, then he needs to get
a concussion protocol for atleast a year.
Um, but like my me, I'd be like,okay, cool, mark set at 45 mil,
half guaranteed, whatever thenumber is.
Right?
All right, fine.
I know I don't want to screw myfuture because by the way, I can
make more on the backendendorsements, et cetera, by

(01:35:38):
winning Super Bowls and having astronger team.
Mm-hmm.
how about I'll, how about pay me24 fully guaranteed, right?
No.
And I want guaranteed.
Yeah.
I don't want, if he, if he, bythe way, I don't know what he
really wants.
Right.
But if he wants 45 fullyguaranteed, like Deshaun, he
smokey.
He's, you're,

you're an idiot.
Just take 30 million guarantee.
Take 30 million, guaranteed.
Get outta the way.
Move on.

Stoy Hall (01:36:01):
Yeah.
Get, build your team.
Right.
Shit.
25, 20.
Yeah.
I mean like get the fullyguaranteed for whatever and then
build the team because guesswhat?
You're gonna make more money.
Like talk to Tom Brady about howcontracts really don't matter.
Mm-hmm.
But endorsements do.

Exactly.
Especially especially

Stoy Hall (01:36:17):
in New York.
Oh, so you're not paying forshit there.
Anyway.
Right.
Name for yourself.
We're on that.

Um, back from Pbre.
Ready for a shot.
I was gonna say, when you getback, I need a,

Stoy Hall (01:36:30):
also, I been kind

to me, I need a weather update for this weekend.
Had to be better in watermelon.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Oh,

Stoy Hall (01:36:44):
maybe.
They've been, uh, that tastesfine.
They've been like strong, likestronger.
Like, I don't, there's just moreof a, that weird ass kick.
Like a was like wasabi, like it,it hits the, uh, there's the

(01:37:07):
nostrils.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know.
That's just shitty.

All right.
Honda Classic.

Stoy Hall (01:37:14):
Oh boy.
Back in finish is like, uh, islike, uh, the, the red NyQuil.

Oh yeah.

Stoy Hall (01:37:21):
Not

prepared for that.
Not, not good, not prepared.
Champion course at PGA NationalResort.
Par 70, 7125 yards very shortfor PGA standards.
Um, uh, big thing on this courseis it's got the bear trap.
Got the bear trap, uh, 15, 16,17, but, uh, on the front, 9, 5,

(01:37:43):
6, and seven.
Actually played just as tough.
So you got six holes that playreally hard and 12 holes that,
uh, that are alright.
Yeah, I mean, the scoring stillbe pretty low here.
Um, really shots gain approachis the big thing to look for

(01:38:05):
this week and mid eighties iswhat I'm seeing.
You seeing anything different?
Uh, let's pull

Stoy Hall (01:38:12):
up.

Uh, Los Angels.
Nope.
The City of Angels.
Nope.

Stoy Hall (01:38:21):
Nope.
Perfect weather by the way.
That was a weird thing I justlooked at.
Gave me everything inkilometers.
That's not helpful for me.
Um, no, you're, I mean, decentweather.
Um, like really good we weather.

(01:38:42):
uh, Thursday, we'll have, uh,some gusts later.
Yeah.
Otherwise, overall, five to 10miles an hour.
Sunny, 80 degrees.
Could you ask for better?
Could you?
I don't.
You could.
I mean, you could, but you'renot gonna, I'm not sure you'd
get it.
You're not gonna get it.

(01:39:03):
Oh, hey.
Wow.
Oh, sorry.
I think it just said I won

All right.
You did research this week.
I did

Stoy Hall (01:39:15):
lead us off.
I did.
Well, I'm to pull up FanDuel soI can get the, I want the best
odds of odds.
That's fair.
Although my, it's taken foreverto load.

I'm, I'm loaded.

Stoy Hall (01:39:34):
DraftKings is, is, is taking its time.
Top

10.
I'll go through the top 10 whileyou're waiting.
Lord.
Uh, son.
J m Yep.
Shane Lowry, Matt Kucher, ChrisKirk, Minu Lee, Aaron Wise, Alex
Noran, Billy Horschel, DennyMcCarthy.
And I believe there is 3 6 9.

(01:40:02):
There's three guys, four guys,five guys tight at 10th Vegas.
Pendrith, Poston.
That's about it.

Stoy Hall (01:40:09):
Fon and Dietrich.
You're good.
You're good right about there.
Uh, best value pick.
I I should have put pick Kucherlast week.
I'm glad I didn't when I wantedand done.
Yep.
Um, played very well last weekby the way.
And, uh, at Kutcher's, the dogat plus 3000,

uh, I've got him at plus 2,400.
I'll take 3000.
Um, one and done or outright?

Stoy Hall (01:40:28):
One and done.
uh, th this type tournament, hewins early, usually in seasons.
Yep.
Um, hasn't done that this yearat all.
Um, but this is, with this typeof field, this is definitely a
setup set up for him.
Um, so give me some kocher.
I love your one

and done.
Uh, one and done.
This week I am going with Vegas.
Um, Jonathan Vegas.
He has played well.
Um, I think he's made like nineout of his last 10 cuts.
Um, of course he plays well at,um, if it, if he's going to win
and he's in a lot of golftournaments.
This is a tournament, like thisis the type of tournament.
Yeah, he's going to win.

(01:41:10):
Uh, I've got about plus 3,400,um, just on 35.
He's T 10, um, overall here.
And I will take the plus 35there.
Uh, outright winner, T

Stoy Hall (01:41:25):
seven.
Um, What you got going?
Chalk.
I like chalk, by the way.
I'm not gonna lie, I think for

this tournament, um, something in the chalk chalky
range.
Um, I'm gonna play TaylorPenrith.
Taylor.
What?
Wait, what's Prath?

Stoy Hall (01:41:46):
Chalk all the way down there.
Plus

3,500.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, I mean, he's T 10.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you're going withM then, huh?
I, I,

Stoy Hall (01:41:57):
I love me some m but no, I'm actually going with
Vegas.
Oh, all right.
I I I love that.
Um, I really do like a allowingm Yeah.
I'm not gonna lie.
Um, really do.
And, uh, but no, I, I, Vegaswas, was going between my one
and done and, uh, outright, butKutcher played well last week.

(01:42:17):
So, bumped bumped me.
Flipped me.
It flipped me.

So yeah, these two, uh, our, both of our outright
winners are picked at samehundred.
So, um, yeah, I will, I willride that train Dark horse, um,
50 to one or better.

Stoy Hall (01:42:54):
Um, man, I'm, I'm stuck between two here.

So Step Stratco won this event last year?
Yeah.
And he's right at 50 to one.
Um, just for those scoring atscoring at home, um, kind of
came out, played well, um,obviously here, but then, uh,
didn't really make.
Oh, say after that.
Um, but

Stoy Hall (01:43:16):
yeah, and he, my, my two in between is Ryan Palmer
and Webb Simpson.
This is one of thosetournament's.
Web Simpson goes like, just likeeight under nine under to start
it and ride.
I think that tells me what youranswer is, and, uh, but I like
Ryan Palmer, by the way.
Yeah.
And this, and this turning, but,uh, this, this just, it, it, it
feels like a, a web No, no.
Web's nine, 9,000 by, it feelslike a web gym.

Mm-hmm.

Stoy Hall (01:43:39):
Yep.
Web Gym, um, has pictures in,in, in, uh,

plus 9,000 on tracking.
Was 7,000 on FanDuel?
What's that say?
Uh, I don't know.
It might

Stoy Hall (01:43:49):
be value there.
You tell maybe.
I

have no idea.
We'll figure that out.
If you think he's good, I'd playhim, uh, if you like him.
Yeah.
Draftking, what, uh, what am Idoing here?
I don't know.
With your life, what am Iseeing?
Am I seeing any

Stoy Hall (01:44:05):
value?
I just want everyone to know hedidn't do research this week.
I'm seeing

value in pans out for him.
I'm, I'm feeling value in EricVan Ryan this week.
Oh.
Um, a guy that can play reallywell.
Can he play well for four days?
I have no idea, but, um, that'swho we're riding this week.
Uh, what's he at on your side?

(01:44:30):
Cuz he's plus 7,000 on my side.
10,000.
Oh, I will take the 10,000.

Stoy Hall (01:44:35):
So if you like him.
Yep.
Let it wrap.
Crazy

how bad FanDuel's golf odds are.
Mm-hmm.
definitely don't use FanDuel forgolf.
Most of the time.
Check'em, but, but don't, mostof the time draft tickets don't
ride with it is, uh, it'sdefinitely the way to go.
Uh, top 40,

Stoy Hall (01:44:53):
top 40 folded.
This is where my researchstopped.

Top 20 is all I'm seeing on FanDuel.
I don't know if you're gettingNo,

Stoy Hall (01:45:02):
I've got DraftKings top

40.
Top 40.
Okay.
I'm only

Stoy Hall (01:45:05):
getting top 20 on.
FanDuel Starts at will Gordon.
No.
Plus 100 Will Gordon.

I'll see where Will Gordon is.
FanDuel must just have got outof the golf game

Stoy Hall (01:45:18):
completely.
Yeah, it seems like it because Imean, you got some good value
based upon our other picks.
You got really good value here,by the way.
So

Will Gordon's at plus two 40 for a top 20.
Okay,

Stoy Hall (01:45:30):
let me, let me just get some, uh, who was that?
Will Gordon

2 25.
Okay, so like I can, I'm justsaying like I can start there as
far as guys I started to lookat, but like him and Harris
English have the same top 40chan or top 20 chance and that
just seems odd to me.

Stoy Hall (01:45:47):
You got some g I mean you got Will Gordon, Ryan,
Palmer, Simpsons in there.
Van Reins, like Vannoy is inthere.
Yeah, Knox is in there.
I mean, yeah, you got, you gotsome good, good top 40 value.
Some pretty good value even inthe, all of them Top 40 at the
Plus cuz that's

what we choose.
How about my boy Aaron?
Aaron Rye?
Where's he at?
You see him in there anywhere?

Stoy Hall (01:46:11):
I should have probably started in the minuses
just to minus one 20.
Ah, all right.
Walworth then?
No, I, I said, Hey, good valuein Ryan, Ryan Palmer.
So I'm gonna ride with him atplus 100.
I know chalk on our, on how wedo top forties, but Ryan Palmer.

(01:46:34):
Yeah, I just like it.
I like that.
Okay.
I

like it.
Um, I'm taking your boy Simpson.
Oh, okay.
Um, somehow one 20, somehow he'splus one 20.
He just completely outta sortsor what he's I know.
Uh, plus one 20, you said?
Yeah.
And plus 100.

Stoy Hall (01:46:58):
Yep.
God, like those values.
I, regardless, I just.
again though.
Uh, super weak field incomparison.
Who are you fading this week?
Oh, that was, this is a toughone.
This is a tough one, you know,do you just go chalk with with M
and and write it down?
Um, ah, God.

(01:47:21):
This one's, this one'slegitimately a damn crap.
Shoot.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
Uh, only cuz uh, you know what,I'll go a little chalky.

(01:47:42):
Gimme Aaron Wise, is that plus2200 or my bad?
Three.
Oh, what?
Three?
Yeah, he's

at three.
He's at six over here.
Uh, no ride.
Dr.
Excuse me.
1, 2, 30, 4.
He's at

Stoy Hall (01:47:53):
five.
I don't care.
It could be three.
I'm here.
Why is that three then where do

you have Lowry at?
Two.
Okay.
Yeah, I haves JM at plus seven51,000.
Lowy at 1500, 1600 Kutcher at2,400.

Stoy Hall (01:48:14):
Oh God.
Kutcher at 3000

with Kirk at 2,400.

Stoy Hall (01:48:19):
Kirk's at 3000.
Um, these boys are

way down there.
Men Lee and Aaron Wise at 2,528.

Stoy Hall (01:48:27):
What about

Horschel?
Noran, 2,800 for Horschel.
2,800 for Noran.
I

Stoy Hall (01:48:34):
got them at 25.
Wow.
These are crazy.
These are

all over the place.
I mean, it just goes to show youthough that golf is getting a
lot more, um, research done.
Mm-hmm.
to it.
Um, and certain apps are aheadof certain other apps.
Yeah.
As far as

Stoy Hall (01:48:49):
that research and development.
And I, I've noticed that alsoon, uh, soccer too.
Yes.
Um, I loved, uh, draft, Ibelieve on those off sports.
DraftKings does a better jobwith golf and soccer than.
FanDuel does with those two.
But FanDuel, I believe doesbetter on football than
DraftKings does.
Oh, that's right.
In my, in my betting opinionnow.
Yeah.

(01:49:10):
Granted, that doesn't mean much

at all.
What, uh, any side bets thisweek?
How you feeling been sinceyou've been getting here?
Ash?

Stoy Hall (01:49:20):
Uh, I haven't updated that.
Yeah, these numbers are notupdated.
It's not, it's not good.
Golf's uh, golf's gotten off toa, a rough start.
Um, don't mess up my equations.
You better control z the shitoutta that.
I have equations.
Yes.
You were up four to three onshitty shots and you are up 24

(01:49:41):
to 22 overall season points.
Money count.
We don't,

that's, we don't, I just moved into the lead in all.
Math.
Math is, math is math.
I just overtook you in all threecategories.
It's early.
We haven't even got, we haven'tgot to a major, we're not even,
we to the majors very early.
Um, Hey, you gotta celebrate theLevi there, We're not.
I'm gonna hand my tampons outwhile I can

Stoy Hall (01:50:07):
love it.
Uh, I don't know.
side bet

wise.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't have anything sowe can ride without it this
week.
That's fine.

Stoy Hall (01:50:18):
Absolutely.
I mean, the fact is DraftKingsis doing a promotion that is add
plus 300 onto any golfer.
Yeah.
To win.
Like that's,

that's how much of a crap shoot this tournament is.
Right.
Is is what that comes down to.

Stoy Hall (01:50:35):
Right.
Uh, let us know though.
Um, we're gonna look into it.
At least I'm going to.
Cuz he doesn't do anything forthe podcast.
Not saying anything.
Not, not a damn thing.
Not a idea.
Not you here for the peoplegonna look into getting some
mics.
And going out and just, uh,well, obviously it's still cold
and not, uh, gulf weather forus.

(01:50:55):
Well, let us know.
Let us know how

to do that.
Just attach, detach these andjust

Stoy Hall (01:51:00):
camera.
And we're just gonna carryaround these long ass cords as
opposed to having a mic batteryon us.
Hot mic.
Anyways, let us know if youwanna do that.
Uh, we have, luckily enough forus, we have backup cameras so we
don't have to take these ones.
Yeah.
Um, that we can take to therange.
And I don't mean have a range,the, the restaurant, the golf

(01:51:20):
range, actual golf range.
Uh, we also can take them outon, uh, be micd up, go micd up
and just let us know.
Yeah.
If you wanna see that, how we'refeeling out there.
Um, the reason we bring that upis just because golf is gonna be
a shorter, right?
Yeah.
This one was a little longer cuzwe got long winded, but, uh,
added some football.
We wanna know if you want to, ifyou wanna see some more cut ups

(01:51:42):
of us actually golfing.
Um, as well as, you know, it'sgonna be a little more of a.
Um, just listening to us,chatted up on, on the golf
course and we'll bring inobviously everything we talk
about.
Right.
Uh, it's just gonna be a littledifferent right.
From live from the course orindoor as we should probably do.
Yeah.

Um, that's probably easier test.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, than trying to walk aroundwith it,

Stoy Hall (01:52:04):
but yeah.
Maybe, maybe we'll test thatout.
So, um, if you're listening andyou're one of those places and
you wanna sponsor us, yeah.
Let us know.
Let us know.
Otherwise, have a great week.
Uh, spring's coming.
Okay.
I know people watch that showthat say, winter's coming.
Yeah.
Spring's coming

Eventually that means golf after it's 18 degrees
on Friday.
50 degrees.
It's still February 50 onSunday.
Still February.
Trying to get outside on Sunday.
We'll

Stoy Hall (01:52:34):
see.
Are you, I told the boys, I waslike, Hey, you know what, Sunday
mornings are coming back.
And they're like, oh, really?
And I'm like, yeah.
Oh, they're coming.
I

just, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to get out
on Sunday.
What's wrong with you?
It's supposed to snow and thenit's supposed to be 18 degrees.
It'll melt by Sunday.
From Friday to Sunday

Stoy Hall (01:52:52):
you'll be, you'll be fine.
It's actually uh, I

mean our weather report with the ice is a
problem.
Golf course gonna be open Then.
I'm trying to play, which oneare you

Stoy Hall (01:53:01):
trying to play at?
Jester.
Jester.

So yeah, come on out.
Uncle's got two tee times.
Okay.
What times 1120 and 1129 orsomething like that.
I'm ending

Stoy Hall (01:53:12):
this because, so I don't.

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