Ep. 75: Arnie's Tournament

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Stoy Hall (00:00):
Well, how you been?
Good week.
Good week, everybody.
Huh?
Good weekend, huh?
Had a good weekend.
That's, that's good.
You?
That's good.
Yeah, it was solid.
Good.
I remember what we did actually.
Um, I actually don't sign of agood weekend.
Cleaned a lot.
Did a lot, didn't make as muchfood, but I will be probably
smoking this weekend.

(00:21):
It's supposed to be pretty nice,isn't it?
Yeah.
Well, well,

Cole Ingle (00:24):
yeah.
Yeah.
All tomorrow's supposed to beback in the fifties.
Yeah,

Stoy Hall (00:27):
it's, it's, we're getting there.
I played golf.
Oh, well, talk, talk to us aboutit.
Oh, they were mad.
They were mad.
You were mad.
I was mad.
Absolutely.
I didn't get an invite.
But Were they mad because of howyou played?

Cole Ingle (00:39):
Uh, no.
Nobody would've been mad becauseof how I played.
Oh, except for yourself?
No, I played, played with myuncle.
He shot 100.
Oh oh.
But he's already probably playedin like eight rounds outside.
Oh.
I

Stoy Hall (00:50):
was like, I, Hm.
101st, first round out.
Well, no, he just, he

Cole Ingle (00:55):
just, just is good.
That's fair.
So annoying too, because, Hejust because he's just good.
He would, he's, he's the golfshark.
Oh.
Walks up in jeans is every roundwarm mom.
If, if he's wearing long pantsin golf, they're always jeans
And he swings like Jim Feric,Bernard Langer combo.

(01:21):
Wow.
So like, not a lot of swingspeed.
Little awkward, yeah.
Um, pretty low ball flight downmiddle always, most of the time,
always in play.
If we're not in play, we'rerolling in a 15 footer from the
fringe or chipping one to twofeet.
You know, it's just one of thosewhere just one of those, um, you

(01:42):
know, and he'll have his badrounds or whatever, but like his
bad rounds are like 75 to 77.
you know, he'll go out and shoot68, 71, 74.
So, I mean, he's a little bitolder, so it's a little more
sporadic, but

Stoy Hall (01:59):
it's still Yeah.
But if my disbursement was 68 to77, right.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't, I do not thinkI would be upset.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (02:10):
And like distances, like he's just a guy that, like
from 1 75, it's on the green,like it's, and it's, it's a
hybrid.
Yeah.
So he is not hitting like aseven iron.
Right.
Uh, you know, his three woodgoes two 20 max, you know,
drivers maybe two 50.
But everything is just, the keyis, and he plays, like, he plays

(02:33):
the properties.
Um, so I.
You know, as far as what heshould play, one for his age and
two for like his distance.
Yeah.
So like he's not, doesn't tryingto play his, he's not, he's not
coming back to the tips.
Super impressive or anythinglike that.
Like he

Stoy Hall (02:47):
knows.
Does he ever piss you off whereyou're like, fine, let's go to
the tips.
Well, and then he beats you.

Cole Ingle (02:52):
Uh, does that ever happen?
He just, he just really doesn't,just wouldn't do it.
Joe is usually the one thatcalls him out for that cuz
Joey's always one that wants toplay from the tips for, because
it's more comfortable

Stoy Hall (03:02):
for him.
Right.
Yeah.
Like, yes, he's long and allthat, but he's just comfortable
cuz I can go driver.
Right.
It's

Cole Ingle (03:08):
not, and yeah, ultimately good round, I had one
birdie, handful of pars, a lotof bogies, a couple doubles

Stoy Hall (03:16):
just from rust or

Cole Ingle (03:18):
back.
Back is not in, in good shaperight now.
Uh, from the, the sledding stuffstill, we're still over.
Uh, a month later at age 37,these are things that, you know,

Stoy Hall (03:30):
we're still overcoming that

Cole Ingle (03:32):
do stupid shit, win stupid prizes, um, yeah.
Is ultimately what that therego, comes down to.
So there you go.
Wow.
Um, should have stayed in thevehicle instead of in the sled.
So, should have, should have.
Well coulda, right?
Yeah.
So now we are, uh, doing lots ofstretching, going to the
chiropractor, all that fun,

Stoy Hall (03:48):
all that fun stuff.
Mm-hmm.
Um, alright.
Right.
Well let's get into it.
Run down the week of the HyundaiClassic.
Um, and we'll do, we'll, we'lllet you know what our season
points in shitty shot and allthat stuff are at.
Although I think I missed, Imight have missed one of yours
cuz I thought you had two zero.

Cole Ingle (04:12):
I should have two zero.
I should have three total.
You should have four.

Stoy Hall (04:14):
Four this week.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I didn't add yours up yet,but anyways, uh, you know, we'll
go through that.
Uh, and then a little, littleTwitter feed and we'll get into
the Arne.
Yeah, man.
Alrighty.
Classic.
Um, obviously as you guys know,our golf podcasts just are not
as long, cuz Yeah.
There's lesser content when it'snot a very great tournament

(04:35):
either.
Yeah, it's even lesser.
Yeah, it's even lesser.
And I think that'll be thisweek.
So

Cole Ingle (04:41):
I was just gonna say like, we're gonna need to fake,
um, excitement, make someexcitement here this week.

Stoy Hall (04:46):
Uh, the recap is bad.
I don't,

Cole Ingle (04:50):
like we weren't good and then the golf wasn't good
and so it's not good.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (04:55):
Um, however Oh, we'll get to on Twitter.
Yeah.
The ratings just

Cole Ingle (04:59):
ridiculous.
Yeah, right.
So yeah, I don't wanna No, no.
Don't wanna ruin the, the veryfew tidbits that we do have.
Uh, so yeah, quick rundown here.
Uh, Honda Classic, um, man, lastyear of the Honda Classic
actually, I believe.
Yeah.
Um, and so Chris Kirk, uh, tookit down.

(05:21):
Um, that would be the one thingthat I would point out to those
of you out there who have noidea who that is or anything
along those lines.
Not even from a golf uh,perspective, but his story is
really cool.
Um, recovering alcoholic, uh,2019, I believe it was, uh, left
a tour, uh, to get sober.

(05:42):
Um, has struggled with it for along time, uh, and finally did.
And so like in his celebrationspeech, um, you know, one of the
big things that, that he pointedout was that he was glad that he
could, was going to be able tocelebrate without, without
alcohol.
Yeah.
Or without thinking that heneeded to have the alcohol to,

(06:02):
as we sit here and drink justlike I had cheers to that.
Hey buddy.
Hey, we'll do it for you.
Chris.
Um, four went out for Chris.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but yeah, he played, playedwell.
Um, Made the shots when heneeded to down the stretch and,
and got her done, uh, in theplayoff.
So,

Stoy Hall (06:22):
which is exciting.
Yeah.
Exciting finish.
But, so, but

Cole Ingle (06:27):
Cole was the last name of the guy that he, that
and that guy is known for beinga mini tour phenomenon.
And so it was kind ofinteresting cuz it was the, the
comeback story versus the minitour phenomenon type of thing.
So Good back and forth there.
Um, so yeah, I mean, golfenthusiasts and, and people that

(06:49):
have done deep dives and, andfollowed the tour for a long
time, we'll probably have heardof those names or, or know those
guys and, and were entertained.
But the tournament itself, uh,the cream really didn't rise to
the top as far as there was verylittle cream to be able to rise
to the top.
They did.
And.
I mean, unfortunately my playerto Fade was the only one who was

(07:10):
remotely competitive.
I'm not.
Right.
Um, so the, you know, there'sthat, uh, but just also the, the
tour has started so hot with thebig tournaments, the exciting
tournaments, and a huge turnoutthat eventually you're gonna
have a little bit of a letdownof a week.
Right.
Um, it is golf.

(07:31):
It is, as much as we love it, itis, it is still golf, you know,
call it, call it what it is.
And so the Honda Classic is, uh,is now in the rear view.
Um,

Stoy Hall (07:42):
you know what it remind, I'm gonna go bring it to
football a little bit.
You know what reminded me ofHow's that pre-season

Cole Ingle (07:47):
football That's fair.
But after the regular seasonstarted Yeah.

Stoy Hall (07:51):
like we went, oh, hey, let's, let's do an All-star
pre-season game.

Cole Ingle (07:55):
I.
It's the s e c footballschedule.
Ah, it's after you play ninestraight weeks of s e c
opponents.
Yeah.
Cupcake.
And then you would play theCitadel.
Yeah.
Yep.

Stoy Hall (08:06):
Yeah, absolutely.
In week 10.
Absolutely.
Before you play.
But not dominate them though.
Like No, it was a, a close gamefor some reason.
Right.

Cole Ingle (08:13):
But like for three quarters.
Yeah.
And then all of a sudden it waslike 48 to seven.
Yeah, absolutely.
It was, it was 17 to seven afterthree quarters and then, and
then 40th.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, that's what

Stoy Hall (08:22):
it was.
That's That's what it was.
Bring back.
Bring it

Cole Ingle (08:24):
full circle there.
Yeah, full circle.
Uh, starting at the top here.
Uh, we'll take a look at ourpicks for this week.
Uh, you had Kucher, uh, plus3000.
He did not make the cut.
Um, this just shit that did notmake any, did not make any
money, my

Stoy Hall (08:38):
lord.
Um,

Cole Ingle (08:40):
we did need to talk about which guy we were using
for, um, the money.
The one and done or the outrightwinner?
Yeah, we back and forth on that.
But, uh, I had, uh, Vegas whomade the cut on the number, had
to make a birdie, I believe,either on 17 or 18 on Friday in

(09:03):
order to make the weekend.
Um, but then had a, a reallysolid weekend actually.
Uh, specifically Sunday.
I think he shot 65 on Sunday,uh, to get 64, yeah, 64 on
Sunday to get to T 2180$8,100earned, uh, for outright
winners.
You took Vegas in that category.
I took Penrith Vegas 21st again.

(09:25):
Uh, Penrith 42nd.
Both made the cut at least,which is pretty much all we can
say for ourselves this week.
Right.
Uh, moving to Black Stallion,the 50 to one or better.
You had Old Webb Simpson madethe cut,

Stoy Hall (09:42):
baby T 74.
He did not play what I thoughthe would either.
I had,

Cole Ingle (09:45):
uh, I went with a real long shot there, plus
10,000 with Eric.
Ben Royan did not make the cut.
Uh, top 40.
Ryan Palmer did not make the cutfor you.
Uh, I had web since in top 40.
He did not finish top 40.
Uh, so yeah, we suck and suck,but he didn't get cut.
He did not get cut

Stoy Hall (10:03):
suck.
So you got a point.

Cole Ingle (10:04):
Hey.
Oh, geez.
Yeah.
Thanks.
Thank goodness G us.
Um, and then player to Fade.
You had Aaron Wise, who finishedT 29.
Uh, he was projected third.
I had, um, Shane Lowry projectedsecond faded all the way to
fifth Uh, so Woo, no, the, uh,while my fades were strong early

(10:26):
on when I was struggling, uh,they have since faltered when my
one and done, uh, picks havebeen a little bit better.
So, you know, figure it out onboth ends.
I can't,

Stoy Hall (10:36):
one of these days I can't earn money.
So we're there.
Uh, let, let's get into thatthough.
Um, that was our recap.
We'll do the, I want us to talkabout.
What we're gonna decide with themoney and all of that.
Yeah.
Air go because it might changethe overall standings.
We'd have to adjust.
Right.
So what was your question?
The money earned, right?
Yeah.

(10:56):
Oh one and done or outright.
So we've

Cole Ingle (10:58):
done, I thought we've always done one and done
because we've

Stoy Hall (11:00):
always done one and done cuz of the pool.
The pool.
Yep.
Yeah.
Which is why we then, then didshitty shot on the out on the
outright winner.
Correct?
Correct.
Yep.
Now I have a shitty shot thisweek cuz Kucher got cut and he
was my one and done.
Right.
If you're one and done oroutright get cut, either one.

Cole Ingle (11:15):
Guaranteed.

Stoy Hall (11:16):
Yep.
Guaranteed you have

Cole Ingle (11:18):
a shitty shot and then you outscored me though
overall correct?
Um, based on our point system.
So therefore I have a shittyshot for the scoring.
That is correct.
So one and one this week.
One and one.
So cute.

Stoy Hall (11:29):
So cute.
Um, we only have two

Cole Ingle (11:31):
left.
Well, um,

Stoy Hall (11:33):
and one, one looks a little darker than the other
peanut butter for you.

Cole Ingle (11:37):
Oh.
It's actually peanut butter.

Stoy Hall (11:38):
All right.
It's a, it's not a whiskey.
That's not a, that's not a, apeanut shaped whiskey

Cole Ingle (11:43):
barrel.
One one of these days.
I'm just gonna pour one of thoseinto the peanut butter on, just
get the reaction.

Stoy Hall (11:48):
I'm not gonna lie, that is one of the worst
whiskeys.
I think I've, yeah.
And I'm talking like evenMcCormicks and Hawkeye.
Oh yeah.
I'm, that one's up there with amm-hmm.
Oh, I think it's

Cole Ingle (11:58):
worse cuz I think it's more concentrated.

Stoy Hall (12:01):
Yeah, I think it's, yeah.
You're not right.
No.
Wrong.
Also, if you think it is rootbeer probably makes it worse.
The worst.
Even the worstest.
Yeah.
The worst.
What do you got over there?
I got some pineapples.
Oh.
Which is

Cole Ingle (12:11):
also not good, if I remember correctly.
Uh, I don't think

Stoy Hall (12:14):
so.
Nope.
Still not.
Peanut butter's not bad.
It actually is good.
Well, for these shots, thepeanut butter's like the best
one.
Even when, like, right when ithits your tongue, it's sweet.

(12:35):
Like, you know it's gonna be allright.
Mm-hmm.
Those don't those?
No, they just always burn.
Those aren't good.
They're not, they're not good.
I mean, there's a reason they

Cole Ingle (12:43):
cost what they do.
I mean, there's a reason they'recalled shitty shots.
Yep.

Stoy Hall (12:47):
All of that is accurate.
We will have, uh, yeah, I mean Iguess we could, um, before we
get to the overall standings,um, I mean we could start
sprinkling a little collegebasketball into this thing.
Did you watch Drake game?
I did.
Okay, we can talk about that.
It's a Drake game.
Let's, uh, we'll do, sorry.
I, but in that was my fault.

(13:09):
Let's get to overall standing soyou guys are updated where we're
at and then, you know, althoughwe can get into little college
basketball, at least the Drakegame, which mm-hmm.
Anyways, season points, uh,story's at 31.
College number.
Are these updated?
Yep.
The points are the shittyshot's.
Not the money is, do you want meto change that or not?
You can leave that for now,y'all.

(13:31):
I, I'll fix it, don't worry.
Um, the season points, I'm up by2 30, 1 29.
Uh, shitty shot.
I am down one or up one.
Depends how you think about it.
Mm-hmm.
but I've had more shitty shotsthan coal by one.
The money is not even a factor.
I am down by 2.3 million in themoney count.
Could all change in onetournament.
Still one, one winner away.

(13:51):
Now when that starts to get tothe nines, I'm, I'm in trouble.
Right.
But for now, nothing.
We're one.
We're one.
It's early.
It's early.
It's early.
We have 20 something othertournaments to go first.
Half of the first quarter.
Yeah.
We'll, we'll be fine.
We'll be fine.
So there's the, the, the cap ofthe Hyundai Classic.
Honda.
Hyundai my bad.

(14:12):
Honda.
Yeah.
Uh, it doesn't matter.
It's your last year.
Year doing it.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Um, foreshadow Right.
Did I, did I spill the beans onsomething?
I don't know.

Cole Ingle (14:19):
Possibly.
And

Stoy Hall (14:21):
you'll be All right.
Let me put a quick call in.
Yeah.
Right.
Um, so yeah, congrats there.
Um, overall.
So let's get into a littlecollege basketball.
We're getting into that, uh,that time of the year now for
everyone.
Missouri Valley has actuallyplaying their conference
championship this week.
Most all others are next week.
Yep.
Uh, but that being said, uh, itwas this weekend, Sunday, 3:00

(14:45):
PM when Drake went to Bradleyto, for the regular season
championship.
And I cannot wait to talk about,I have a thing against regular
season in conferencechampionships.
Mm-hmm.
I don't understand it.
Yeah.
Uh, anyways, they were battling,uh, for the number one season in
the conference championship, butalso regular season's title.
Uh, we beat them by 24, 25points at home earlier in the

(15:05):
year.
And, uh, the game was, I, Ithought they had a really good
defensive strategy.
Um, Bradley.
I really did.
They just took people away.
It was, um, but it wasn't, itwas one of those games where I.

(15:27):
your best player didn't show upor arguably mm-hmm.
your best player didn't show upand it just didn't seem like
they had the energy.
It, it flat.
Just a flat, a flat game.
Um, for me, when I was watchingit and I never felt like they
were gonna win it, by the way,from Tip actually.
Um, it just felt like theydidn't have that edge.

(15:48):
And Bradley playing at home, youalways have a little edge, just
had that extra fire of reallywanting to win this game.
Whereas I believe our guys'mindset was more like, meh.
And that's kind of how I thoughtabout it and I'm okay with that.
I didn't, I didn't really carethat they lost.
I wish they would've playedbetter, but Right.
No one got hurt.
Right.
You're healthy, which you're twoseeded and I think you're on the

(16:10):
better side of the bracket

Cole Ingle (16:10):
percent in March.
Drake needs to stay healthy.
They haven't No.
For the last few.
Right.
Um, they've always had asignificant injury this time of
year.
Correct.
Hopefully it doesn't happen inthe conference tournament, and
they can make a run throughthere and win the thing.
Um, they were picked to win thevalley, so this is not a
surprise.
They mm-hmm.
basically were exec exactlywhere they were.

(16:32):
Yep.
Projected to be, uh, struggled alittle bit early on, which hurt
'em late.
Um, they just didn't have anyroom for air.
They won 10 in a row, I think itwas.
Mm-hmm.
uh, and had a let down on theroad, um, in front of 14,000
people.
uh, Bradley It was funny, I waslistening to radio and Sean

(16:53):
Roberts on K X N O was at thegame and he said the lady that
was sitting in front of himturning around and was like, you
guys made it for quite the game.
There's usually only about 3000people here, So, uh, you know,
they had 10,000 more people thanusual, uh, at the game.
Okay.

Stoy Hall (17:09):
It was their first regular season title in 27
years.
Right.
They had so much more to playfor.
Let's,

Cole Ingle (17:14):
there's a storied history.
Obviously.
They had revenge on the mindfrom a beat down in Des Moines.
Uh, also, again, you're, you'reat that point where you can win
a conference championship forthe first time in 27 years.
Correct.
So since, so Provo since thenineties.
Bravo as they say Bravo to you.
Um, so they played well, uh,they had one guy not even gonna

(17:36):
try to remember his name thatseemed like he couldn't miss 10.
Tucker Tucker couldn't make andjust kind of force some stuff.
Um, got a little frustratedtowards the end when he really
started forcing, uh, ultimatelyTucker has to play well, but
Penn's kind of the engine, in myopinion, that makes that, that
team run, uh, when he gets hot,gets going.

Stoy Hall (17:57):
He was the only one to me that had that energy.
Yeah.
Um,

Cole Ingle (18:00):
I mean he, he's that's been there for

Stoy Hall (18:02):
12 years, starts did two.
Obviously he always does likethat,

Cole Ingle (18:06):
saying that he can't make a difference in the scoring
column most of the time.
Right.
It's going to like, you justhave to have that, the guy
making threes or the guy Right.
You know, making the don, youknow, whatever.
It's gonna change momentum for.
It just never felt like, to yourpoint, that they were, no,
Bradley would just never let thegame get to that point where
like, Drake could seize momentumCorrect.

(18:27):
Or anything like that.
So, and

Stoy Hall (18:28):
even ear, like when it first two possessions and
Brody gets a ticky tack, like,body, body, big man foul.
And I immediately went, oh yeah,just gonna be that kind of, this
is gonna be this game.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and it, I'm not saying therefs on that, I'm just saying
like, they're two big these andthey're big men.
Right.
Like they were big boys, justlet'em play.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, but overall, uh, I just, Ididn't, I didn't love it.

(18:52):
I didn't love it for'em.
But again, what does a regularseason title mean in college?
Basketball, please.
Anybody?

Cole Ingle (18:59):
Uh, it means an automatic bid to the n I d.
Cool.
I'm just, you asked, I

Stoy Hall (19:05):
know I answered, but like, I've never really known.
Mm-hmm.

Cole Ingle (19:07):
and like, and that's what it means.
And that's might be relativelynew.
I don't, I don't really know,but like, I know for a fact that
that's what it means.
Oh.
Well that's good.
That's cool.
That's good.
And if you're the Ivy League, itmeans a birth to the NCAA
tournament because they do nothave, because they don't have
ones.

Stoy Hall (19:22):
So this is their conference.
Tournament I'm champion, whichmakes sense.
Wealth of

Cole Ingle (19:25):
knowledge, because like any other questions

Stoy Hall (19:27):
you have for me?
I've never, I've never, it nevermakes sense to me.
Sure.
N it t fi fine, but you're, whatare we all playing for?
Like really, I never understood,like, um, when people get
excited, whether it's, you know,and, and usually cuz I am in
Iowa, um, the state fans arejacked about winning it.
And I'm like, what does itmatter?
You don't get an AQ at

Cole Ingle (19:48):
all.
Right?
I mean, it's history of theprogram type of stuff, obviously
from a Bradley, but are you aconference champion?

Stoy Hall (19:55):
I mean, yes.
No, you're not, you're a regularseason.
Regular.
Does, doesn't postseason meanmore a regular season
conference?
But doesn't postseason meanmore?

Cole Ingle (20:02):
I don't, I don't disagree with what you're
saying.
I'm just saying that, butbasketball,

Stoy Hall (20:06):
you're weird.

Cole Ingle (20:07):
You're weird.
And I think this year is a hugedifference in.
The field being so even up anddown, sporadic college
basketball in general, thathaving a fresh team going into
the tournament, that's not tosay you're, you want to lose

(20:29):
games, but like peaking tooearly is definitely going to be
a thing this year.
Having injuries is definitelygonna be a thing.
Peaking late is gonna be athing.
Making a long run through atournament, possibly hurting
your tournament, chances it,it's all gonna be, I feel like,
more top of mind than pos thannormal because of the hot cold

(20:53):
of so many teams in collegebasketball.
And

Stoy Hall (20:55):
I also think there's something to say about like, you
know, back to the Drake Bradley,they're both along win streaks,
so someone had to win, right?
But I would rather lose thatgame and not be on 11 game
winning streak.
Right.
Going into the postseason whereyou have to win every game.
Right.
Then coming off, you know, beingable to lose like they did and

(21:16):
having that extra thing.
I, I, there's gotta be somethingthere for that, but I just never
really understood that.
However, I do like, um, Drake'sside of the bracket, personally
a little better.
Yeah.
They're either gonna open upwith Murray Stater or Valpo.
I'm good there.
Um, they've got SouthernIllinois, um, Missouri State or

(21:36):
u I c on the other side too.
I like that route a littlebetter than Bradley has you and
I or Illinois State in eitherBelmont, Indiana State or
Evansville.
Mm-hmm.
actually on that.
I think having the two seatactually provides a little
better.
I don't know.
Agree.
I, some people might disagree,but I, I, I really like that

(21:58):
from a college basketballperspective.

Cole Ingle (22:00):
No, I think so as well.
I liked the draw there.
I also think from Drake'sperspective, struggled early,
fought through it, stayedhealthy, got healthy.
had an extended period of reallygood play.
We know how we want to play, weknow what we need to do to win.
We understand right how to win.
Um, we won blowouts, we've wonmultiple overtime games.

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Sure, you got a bummer in the,you know, you'd had a dud, but
much rather have the dud nowthan won conference play or to
in any postseason that you weregonna get to.
Absolutely.
So now's the time to make a run.
Now's the time that matters.
Uh, to your point, a hundredpercent.
If you ask Bradley, Hey, we cantrade you this for this, um, do

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you want the regular seasonchampion trophy or do you want a
spot in March Madness?
And they'll take match MarchMadness a hundred percent of the
time.
So, um, it's not even a questionthat has to be asked.

Stoy Hall (22:54):
Nope, not at all.
All right.
Um, what's our Drake Boys?
So,

Cole Ingle (22:57):
yeah, um, let's say quickly you and I, um, unless
they make a run in thetournament, will not make the
tournament, uh, they've reallystruggled down the stretch.
Uh, so they will not most likelynot be playing post-season
basketball.
Iowa and Iowa State seemedfirmly in the tournament.
Mm-hmm.
um, somewhere between likely sixand 10 seeds, just depending on

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how they finished down thestretch.
Iowa had an amazing overtime winwhere they scored 15 points in,
that was in 90 seconds.
Insane.
Uh, we're sitting

Stoy Hall (23:28):
up brunch and we're watching'em.
We're watching, and I'm like,well, these are both over.
I look down, I'm like, Iowa.
There's something about thatscore that's that's interesting
over the Iowa State.
Right.
And I'm was sitting therewatching and I'm like, oh my
Lord.
Yeah.
Oh my Lord.
That was great.

Cole Ingle (23:45):
Good for them.
So that was really good.
And Iowa State blew a lead lastnight that they should have won
the game at home.
Um, again, they've, they've gotsome quality wins throughout the
year that are gonna protect themlater in the year.
The Big 12,

Stoy Hall (23:55):
bringing in like seven teams or something?
Uh,

Cole Ingle (23:58):
yeah.
Both.
Both.
Big 12 and Big 10 will haveeight or nine teams.
That's now the Big 10 has like14 or 15 teams, remember.
And the Big 12 actually only has10 teams.
Yeah.
So eight out of 10 of the big 12teams are projected to get in
and possibly nine.
That's huge.
Yeah.
And both of them, like the worstteam right now in the Big 12 is
Oklahoma.
They beat Alabama, who is numbertwo west for a while by 25

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points when they played'em.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Blew the, I just blew'em out.
First of all, can

Stoy Hall (24:28):
we talk about how Alabama Yeah.
Is number one.
Number two was number one or twoat some point.
Just in, in basketball.
Right.
Okay.
That's, that's the type ofmadness I need this year.
This

Cole Ingle (24:39):
goes to the, you know, the parallel of, of
college basketball and the, justthe overall evenness, the teams,
you have to be scared of thisyear.
Right now our Purdue, Houston,Alabama, and I don't even know
right now who's fourth.
Um, it's kind of gone.
Do they Scary came

Stoy Hall (24:58):
down.
I mean, Purdue does what?
They're big men.
Kansas might be

Cole Ingle (25:00):
fourth Baylor's up there, but like those two teams
have won the last two.
Kansas and Baylor, they're gonnabe up there.
But like there's the top three,the top three teams I just named
there scare absolutely no one.
And that's from Drake to Iowa toKansas, right?
Like on any given night, Drakefeels like they can beat any of
those top three teams.
I mean they beat MississippiState, right?

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Who's competitive in the s e Cby 20 points at home earlier
this year.
So like there's not anintimidation factor from the one
seed to the 16 seed in thisyear's tournament, in my
opinion.
So I think we're gonna seetremendous, quite few upsets,
but I do think there are certainteams that are getting hot at

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the right time.
And I think that.
Again, that, that matters.
So what we talked about thatreally matters this year.
The teams that are meshing, theteams that are healthy are the
ones that you're gonna seesuccessful.
And I think a lot of that has todo with the covid rules and
everything like that.
You've got a lot of very matureold, you've got six and

Stoy Hall (26:00):
seven eight year guys.

Cole Ingle (26:01):
Yeah.
Yep.
Um, you know, you've got 25 yearold men, men playing college
basketball year.
You run nonprofits stuff likegraduated by 22.
Yeah.
So, I mean, you gotta keep thatin perspective.
You know, Stetson Bennet,Georgia this year when they won
the match, he was 25 years old.
Um, old, old.
26 years old, 25 years old.
Um,

Stoy Hall (26:19):
do you believe because the new, the, the new,
uh, what quads, I guess they'recalled.
I'm not a basketball guy, guys.
I love basketball.
Um, I'll bet on it and I'll beathis ass when we do our March
madness thing.
However, that saying, uh, thisnew quad scoring or ranking
mm-hmm.
it started last year, I believe.

Cole Ingle (26:37):
Yeah.
As far as like releasing the topfour in each.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (26:40):
Yeah, yeah.
Um, last year's madness was, was

Cole Ingle (26:46):
madness.
Yeah.
It was crazy.
But it, you know, the bluebloods ended up,

Stoy Hall (26:49):
but I mean from a more of a ranking standpoint, in
my opinion, like I went intolast year going these, some of
these lower seeds should not belower seeds.
They should be higher seeds.
Yeah.
It's just so hard.
Is that, is it?
I'm just saying cuz that was notjust me, in my opinion, that was
others.
Mm-hmm that just the seating waswrong.
Do, do you believe that getscorrected this year?

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Is that just part of the newsystem?
I just

Cole Ingle (27:13):
don't think that it can, cuz the problem, the
overall problem with that, in myopinion, is one, they're trying
to give the non-power fiveconferences more, more of a
voice, more of a stance as theyshould.
Should, right?
Because they've shown the, theability to compete, uh, so on
and so forth.
The other thing is, is like youlook at the big 12 this year

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from Oklahoma, who is 10th inthe Big 12 to Kansas, who is
first in the Big 12?
those teams just aren't that farapart.
Like on a neutral floor that's aKansas four or five point game,
um, you know, at Kansas, Kansaswould be expected to win at
Oklahoma, Kansas.

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Probably still a small favorite,but like we're talking one or
two points from embeddingperspective.
Um, maybe a little bit more thanthat depending on trends, but
like that's, that's the best topto bottom league in the country
and it's not close hands down.
Their worst team would finishprobably mid to upper quarter of

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every other conference inAmerica.
And so when you look at an Iowastate who has like seven or
eight quad one victories, um,they're 17 and 12 now, 17 and
13, eight and nine in theconference, and they're still
considered like a 16.

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And so if they win a game,doesn't really move'em if they
lose a game.
Yeah.
It might little, it might hurt'em a little bit.
You can't lose games at home,which they lost their last two
that's gonna hurt.
They, they were a four seat aweek and a half ago.
Right.
Um, they've really been on adownward trend, but Big 10, same
thing.
It's like they've got two orthree bad teams, but they're
gonna get nine teams in thetournament.

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And so when you look at that,it's like, okay, where do I put
Drake when they win theirconference?
Right.
They're gonna be a 12 seed ifthey win.
Yeah.
Um, you know, that's just thetypical five 12 game and they're
gonna play the fourth best teamin the Big 10 and they're

Stoy Hall (29:18):
gonna have 20, 27 wins.
You know what I mean?

Cole Ingle (29:22):
Yeah.
Like, and so we see that everyyear.
But the problem is now is thatyou're getting to a point where
there's not, there's just not asbig a.
And so like last year, Carolina,they were an eight seed, which
is, they played like garbage.
They are literally right nowwith the exact same team that
made the national championshiplast year fighting tooth and

(29:42):
nail.
Every victory is putting themone step closer to being in the
tournament.
They're not in the tournamentright now and they have the
exact same team that played inthe national championship last
year.
Complete anomaly.
Nobody knows what the hell'sgoing on.
I mean, they've had a little bitof injury stuff here and there,
but like no excuse to be evenfighting on the bubble.

Stoy Hall (29:59):
Is college basketball just getting that parody?

Cole Ingle (30:02):
I, I mean, I think it goes back again to the
seniority thing a little bit,but just also like, yes, you
have the seniority, but theseniority is kids that weren't
gonna go to the NBA anyway.
So like, not only are theyolder, more experienced, but
they're also getting strongerand better and more mature as
far as reacting to moments whereyou have like momentum shifts in

(30:23):
college basketball.
They're able to deal with thateasier.
So you see more big comebacks.
Okay, more big shots made.
that type of thing.
Just they've been in the momentso much now that it's just like,
yeah, I can go play.
Like there's no fear of playingKansas.
There's no fear of playing NorthCarolina.
Like, they're like, yeah, I'mjust gonna go in there and beat
their ass.
Like, I don't care.

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So back

Stoy Hall (30:43):
to, uh, let's flip it off to golf, right?
Let's, let's pull full circle.
Is it kind of like the new Bloodwith Tiger?
Oh, absolutely.
Like they're, they're, they,they've grown up with those
names, they've grown up withthat fear.
Mm-hmm.
to where it's like, it's a nofactor where at least it's a no
factor.
Mm-hmm.
up until maybe like, you know,that putt right to win, right.

(31:04):
The, you know, the mastersagainst the putt to win or is
it, is it, is

Cole Ingle (31:08):
it we can play two and three days of a tournament?
Are we seeing that?
I'm not scared of Rory.
I'm not scared of speed.
Right.
I'm not scared of Tiger.
Um, you know, that new guard,that's what they've seen.
That's what they

Stoy Hall (31:18):
is that college basketball now that's

Cole Ingle (31:19):
college basketball.
Um, and it will continue to beone because you'll continue to
have guys.
Leave after one year, you'llcontinue to have and nil, uh,
nil.
That's probably a huge thing.
And nil might keep a few morepeople, but honestly, I think
nil has a bigger impact on the,the women's side than it does on
the men, probably because they

Stoy Hall (31:35):
stay longer.
Well, they can

Cole Ingle (31:36):
stay, they can make the same amount of money and
stay in college.
Right.
Um, which they were alreadystaying longer, but now at least
they're getting paid.
So like, I mean, Caitlin Clarkis the story around the country
and she even made the comment onDave Patrick's show the other
day that she was consideringstaying for five years.
Um, and the only difference toher was, you know, she made the
comment directly of, I can stillget a N package while I'm

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playing for the NBA or the W N BA.
Right?
That's just mar you know, that'sthe marketing dollars that
anybody's making that, you know,LeBron or anybody else.
Right?
Um, so it's like, yes, I'm stillgoing to be making more money
when I go to the w n.
However, do I need to, I'mliving in Iowa City.
I'm getting probably at thatpoint a master's in something.

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I'm better in my own personallife.
So I love life playing in frontof a sold out crowd.
Not only at home now, but she'sselling out visiting arenas at
this point because

Stoy Hall (32:33):
of her brand.

Cole Ingle (32:35):
Why wouldn't you continue that?
She's selling out in Nebraska.
She's selling out Indiana.
Why wouldn't, but those placesaren't selling out when Caitlin
Clark's not in town.
Not in women's basketball.
In women's basketball,absolutely not

Stoy Hall (32:45):
volleyball, Nebraska.
Different story.

Cole Ingle (32:48):
Right.
Indiana.
They're also not playing.
They're also not selling it outto 15,000.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (32:54):
So I mean like, so to your point, back to the obvious,
the women's, I get thedifference.
Right, right.
That makes so much sense.
But we're seeing parody.
Yeah.
I love it.
Which causes more madness.
Mm-hmm.
do you like that for.

Cole Ingle (33:12):
I mean, ultimately I think that the teams that are
best coached and have the bestplayers, you're going to end up
with those teams in the Eliteeight.
Is that

Stoy Hall (33:22):
why we had, like, I remember last year was like
three or four one seeds, like inmost the twos, like the cream
still made the top right.
We just had some cluster to getthere and it's just,

Cole Ingle (33:32):
again, it's going to be okay.
Purdue might be struggling alittle bit.
They're still probably gonna goin on the one line is it is
Purdue that like you're gonna bemore magnified specifically as a
one or a two seed that might bestruggling versus one that might
be trending in the rightdirection or a three seed that
was supposed to be better thanthey are, maybe had an injury,

(33:53):
whatever it may be, that'strending up and it's like
they've got the dudes like,that's my team I'm riding with.
Yeah.
Um, so there's just, I thinkthere's gonna be a lot more of
that now, obviously it's still.
a buzzer beater away.
As we know with March Madness,um, there's always gonna be a
close game every year that youhave to win in your run of six.
Mm-hmm.
to win it.

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Um, so you've gotta survive thatgame.
Whatever the game is, whetherit's the first round, the third
round, the nationalchampionship, it doesn't matter.
It's gonna happen.
Um, it's gonna happen.
Um, and likely, maybe even morenow, maybe it's gonna happen two
times out of six or whatever.
You're, you're probably gonnahave a game or two that ends
comfortably.
Is it

Stoy Hall (34:31):
safe to say that one seeds are no longer safe?

Cole Ingle (34:34):
Oh, yeah.
And I think that safe space, Ithink that's gone.
It's proven the last coupleyears.
Couple years.
Um, they're safe compared to therest of the field, but no,
they're not.
There's, there's no team that isgoing in with the three point
line changes that Steph, that'sthe Steph Curry effect in my
opinion.
Mm-hmm.
Um, it's what he's done to the,the men's game, and it's also

(34:57):
what he's done to the, thewomen's game.
Um, he has made basketball moreexciting.
because you don't have to beable to dunk to make the game
fast paced and to make the gamehigh scoring.
And those are the two biggestthings that basketball in
general was struggling from isthat the only exciting part was
above the rim.
Steph Curry made playing belowthe rim super popular.

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And you're seeing that in thegame and then you're seeing that
from a competitive standpoint isthat the little guy has figured
out a style in which he cancompete by making more three
pointers than you make twopointers.
Like sure, we'll give up two,but we're gonna get three math
works because I only have tomake two of those while you make
three dunks.
Yeah.
So if you can find the rightstrategy on any given night, I

(35:43):
can make seven threes.
You know, I can do, you know,whatever it is.
Mm-hmm.
I don't, it doesn't matter if Ican guard you your seven foot, I

Stoy Hall (35:50):
don't like it cuz I love the physicality.
Right, but that's just, well,that's

Cole Ingle (35:54):
just big 10 basketball.
I just lied, man.
You just gotta watch the big 10.

Stoy Hall (35:57):
Gimme some big dudes and just hammer haul.
Just let'em just,

Cole Ingle (36:00):
lets also the death of the big man a little bit.
Um, because you have to be,should the

Stoy Hall (36:04):
big man go out and shoot threes now?

Cole Ingle (36:06):
Oh yeah.
But they also have to be able togo out and guard the team that
doesn't really even technicallyhave a big, have a big man.
And so you pick your poison of,am I going to throw it to that
guy inside enough times to wherehe is going to either make a
dunk or make a free throw verse,whatever his guy is doing on the

(36:27):
perimeter, stepping out, makingthrees.
And that's the, that's the catand mouse game that is now
entered.
That wasn't there.
I would even say five to 10years ago.

Stoy Hall (36:39):
What's the, it's probably preemptive, but what's
the next trend then?
Because obviously it was thethree.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, I think it's just likefootball though.
Does it?

Cole Ingle (36:48):
Does it?
It's just like football.
I mean, football come back, hasturned into a track meet.
Yeah.
And what have football teamsdone, the successful football
teams done is as soon asdefenses navigated to nickel and
dime packages, they went back toquarterback runs, running the

(37:08):
football to be successful.
Right.
And it's Taylor's old the timeit, it's everything's cyclical.
Yeah.
Now, do I think that it willever get back to what it was?
No, but that's just because therules of the game have changed.
Uh, you know, the NFL wants moreoffense.
The NBA wants offense.
The LB a thousand defense.
Every professional sports team,oh, we'll get sports
organization wants, offense.

(37:30):
There's so many rules, so manylike, but that's why, that's why
it won't devolve.
It'll just, you'll just have anevolution of the five will
actually be able to, so

Stoy Hall (37:43):
what you're saying is there's always a cycle in
sports, um, ebbs and flows, butfrom a league standpoint, they
won't cycle back probably.
Right.
You're not gonna see the NFL go,you know, let's make it a little
better, more advantageous to thedefense.
Right.
My vote is yes, however, uh,you're not gonna see that.

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It's never, you're, you're gonnasee high scoring because it
sells tickets.
But fans does it.
It does.
I would say to the average, likeone who just partakes in and
watches sports or the regular

Cole Ingle (38:14):
season.
Yes.
Yeah.
Or the postseason.

Stoy Hall (38:18):
No.
Are you in diving the, that's,are you okay with different
rules?
Different, I mean, if they'renot different

Cole Ingle (38:24):
rules, but they're different application of the
rules.
There is,

Stoy Hall (38:27):
uh, interpretation is there's more physicality in the
playoffs across the board inevery sport.
Yeah.
There's less runs in, in MLB andthe playoffs.
Yeah, and I mean, I think, Ithink

Cole Ingle (38:39):
these, these professionals understand the
regular season.
is there for entertainment.
Yes.
It's there for, I mean, you'regonna have concerted effort, but
you're not going to have stayhealthy, have fun.
You're not gonna have pointedeffort, you're gonna have

(39:03):
competitive effort, I shouldsay, I guess.
Um, whereas post-season comes,it's, it's winning time.
Yeah.
The money's like, I play theregular season to make a
paycheck.
I play the postseason to get mycompetitive rocks off.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, I mean, that'swhat it comes down to is, is and
that more and more, you know,with guys resting during the

(39:25):
regular season with, with all ofthese contracts, with all of
these different, you know,clauses in there of things that
you have to meet in order tomake your bonuses and all of
that.
Like, that's just like, that'sthe entertainment part of.
and now you get to thepostseason.
And you know, that's the biggestdifference in me as far as

(39:46):
enjoyability of professionalsports versus collegiate sports.
Um, which is what we're missinga little bit as nil has been
added into to college sports, isthat we're starting to see a
little bit more of that sameentertainment attitude, um, leak
into college sports because ofnew.

Stoy Hall (40:05):
Yeah, and we'll probably in college football
only get more of that as theplayoff expands, right?
Because more teams make it allright.
So, uh, Twitter, twi, Twitterhire feed.
We'll run through this thing.
Cut to it.
Uh, nuclear golf, by the way, ifyou're not following, great
follow, fantastic follow for allthe news and et cetera.

(40:28):
Um, so here we go.
This one, this one, this one.
I read this one and I don't knowif I've sent one faster to you
or not because it just blew mymind that the fact that these
words could come from this man'smouth.
Okay, so there we go.
This is Sergio.
Yep.
Sergio Garcia.
Yeah.

(40:49):
Blast.
Rory McElroy for immaturity.
This is the quote.
No, no, no.
Lemme back up.
Hold on.
Sergio Garcia blasts a player.
Doesn't matter, but blasts Roryfor immaturity.
Yep.
Immaturity.
Yep.
The quote.
I think it is very sad.
I think that we've done so manythings together and had so many

(41:09):
experiences that for him tothrow that away, just because I
didn't decide or I decided to godifferent to her.
Well, it doesn't seem verymature.
Lacking maturity really.
I respect his choices, but itseems like he doesn't respect
the ones I make.
So a one-way street.
Okay, this goes off because, uh,someone reporter asked about

(41:29):
Sergio and Liv and whatnot, andhe said that, oh, I.
deleted Sergio from my,basically from my phone.
Mm-hmm.
I don't, I don't give a shitwhat he did.
Yeah.
Sergio is trying to put somebodyon blast for being immature.
If you were to name threegolfers, two golf, one golfer,

(41:54):
who is the most immature thatyou know on tour?
Who would it be?
I'll give you top three becausehe's in there.
I know another one that I wouldalways throw in there.
I mean,

Cole Ingle (42:04):
the top three to me, and maybe I'm missing somebody,
but Bryson Reid.
And Sergio.
Sergio.
And the other guy that I wouldthrow in there would probably be
Keka.

Stoy Hall (42:18):
Yeah.
And I would, and I would put himforth of those.
Of those.
Right.
But those top three are the topthree.
Yeah.
So your top three andpotentially, depending on the
year of the top one.
Yeah.
Is the one trying to call out.
Yeah.
Somebody right.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (42:31):
Wow.
I mean, I will say that I thinkRory has, I mean, Rory has
basically just taken a stanceand he is, he's the mouthpiece
for the pga.
And so there's something to besaid about that.
He's ultimately, I think, themouthpiece for Tiger.
Yeah,

Stoy Hall (42:50):
that's exactly what I was gonna say in,

Cole Ingle (42:53):
in a lot of ways.
And I think that this comes morefrom a place, um, from Sergio.
It's a little bit on thepersonal level, but this comes
from, from a rider cup, uh,mindset.
Yeah.
Sergio and Roy have played on alot of different Redder Cup
teams.
Uh, Sergio's known Roy for, Imean, they both were young

(43:16):
superstars, right?
Mm-hmm.
um, obviously Roy's younger thanSergio, but, but to.
the, the thing that he ishurting or feeling is that Rory
is basically turning his back ona Ryder Cup teammate.
I don't think it, I don't thinkit comes necessarily from a live

(43:38):
PGA perspective as much as it'sRyder Cup.
Like, that's my teammate.
You're turning your back on.
So like he doesn't care thatRory and Patrick CRE don't get
along.
Right.
Like he could give two shits.
Right.
But ultimately, like, he's like,man, like Rory will not talk to
look at conversate with anyonewho has gone to live.

(44:01):
If you watch him in anyinteractions on the driving
range or anything, it isnothing.
It is consistent and it isnothing.
And so like, commendable, right?
Like he's consistent.
He's not, you know, going one.
Well, I like that guy.
I don't like, no, but that'swhere Sergio's coming from.
Okay.

Stoy Hall (44:19):
Flip it.
Mm-hmm.
Sergio, if you feel that way,didn't, wouldn't Ro Rory feel
the same way about you flippinginto a different tournament?
Yeah, but I mean, he, because atthat point though, it was not
for certain, but it was saidthat they wouldn't be in the
writer cup.
Yeah.
So like, isn't that, uh, it'svery similar to the same

(44:42):
situation.
Yeah.
I mean, you're now Rory's doingit across the board.
So I, that, that's actually likemore about just his stance.
Right.
But if you're gonna call himout, you gotta think about the
fact that you're letting himdown.

Cole Ingle (44:54):
Yeah.
But you gotta remember who'sleaving all the old guard.
No, I

Stoy Hall (44:58):
get, I get it from the big picture, but I'm trying
to question Sergio.
Ro.

Cole Ingle (45:01):
Yeah, but Rory won't question that because Rory don't
give a shit.
He's got Rom now.
He's got Peter's now.
Well, Peter's actually left.
Peter's got, but like, uh, Imean a lot of the guys have
actually left, but.
Um, it'll be an interestingRyder Cup, um, come September
this year because I, it, a lotof the dominating faces of the

(45:25):
European Ryder Cup team have nowdefected to live.
Um, two of the biggest onesbeing it's gonna Sergio and
Polter, it's gonna be weird asslocker room.
Um, so you're going to have anawkward locker room, um, in a
lot of ways because a lot of theHispanic guys that are really
high ranked in the world havegone to live.

(45:45):
To live.
Yeah.
And so have a lot of theEuropean guys,

Stoy Hall (45:49):
but guess, um, not on the US side.
And even the ones that are,well, the US even.

Cole Ingle (45:54):
Yeah.
I mean the US has,

Stoy Hall (45:55):
they don't have to pick those guys Well and also
the

Cole Ingle (45:58):
depth they had.
Yeah.
I mean they had 18 guys to makea 12 ro, 12 team ro or 12 guy
roster in Europe just didn'thave that luxury.
Um, it's kind of, you know,president's Cup, same way.
President's Cup, you have abigger roster now, um, to choose

(46:19):
from technically than even, andthat's why that, in my opinion,
that will be, that will replacethe Ryder Cup rivalry simply
because of the numbers game.
The President's Cup willactually overtake the Ryder Cup
at some point in popularity,

Stoy Hall (46:34):
but also for, because of Liv though, because it,
there's less, there's gonna beless of that awkwardness because
of that too.
Right.
Your,

Cole Ingle (46:43):
I mean, do you think eventually that the Liv guys
will be able to play in thoseevents?

Stoy Hall (46:51):
I think he, I, I believe yes, but I think it's,
right now it's very teetering.
Like not this year.
Not this year.
No, I don't think so.
Okay.
Um, I think maybe next year, butit depends on if all of a sudden
people start defecting back.
If that starts happening, what'sthe point?
Zero chance.

(47:11):
Why?
Why would that.
right.
So like if, uh, and Keka is abig one because of the series,
which Right.
Probably so.
But if these guys start goingand they come back, yeah.
What, what, what would be thepoint then for the Ryder Cup and
the President's Cup to be like,I, it's then at that point it's

(47:34):
crumbling.
So I've, I was

Cole Ingle (47:36):
actually surprised that, that they ever stepped in
and I don't know exactly whatthe, behind

Stoy Hall (47:43):
the scenes, there's a lot that we just behind the
scenes looks like

Cole Ingle (47:45):
from that perspective.
But it just seemed likesomething that Ryder Cup,
presence cup, um, needed to stayout of, like pick your guys.
This is a dif this is acompletely different to this is
a team based tournament.
This is like, I don't care whattwo of you play on, I literally
just want the best dudes fromEurope and the best dudes from
the United States to show up atwhatever golf course they're
gonna show up at, play somegolf, which

Stoy Hall (48:06):
has always been that, by the way.
Yeah, totally.
Like that's why I think there'sjust something out there we
don't know.
Right.
And, and I say that because ofhow Rory or Tiger and Tiger's
agent and how they're, they're,they're so steadfast.
Like there's gotta be somethingthat we all just don't know.

Cole Ingle (48:24):
Right.
Well, and my thing is that youlook at it and it's like, look
at the purses for this year'sPGA events.

Stoy Hall (48:31):
Clearly it's helped.

Cole Ingle (48:33):
Yeah.
Clearly.
Like you can't be mad that theLiv happened.
No.
Because the Liv helped you push

Stoy Hall (48:41):
your game tour to what it should be helped you to
do and tell what the tour to do.
Right.
And so like, that's why there'sgot, there's gotta be something
else.
I'm

Cole Ingle (48:49):
not negative Liv.
I don't, I don't like live fromwhat they're doing.
Like I think they've completelyscrewed themselves from a
structure perspective.
Oh yeah.
And like how they marketthemselves.
Um, but as far as like whatthey've done to grow the game,
like they're, they're going tohelp the PGA more than they're
going to hurt at the pga, whichis absolutely.

(49:11):
Very funny.

Stoy Hall (49:12):
Absolutely.
Like,

Cole Ingle (49:14):
right?
Yes.
I mean, you know, they came into tear, tear down the PGA and
all I was actually I was doingis building it up as we'll see
in our numbers that we look athere

Stoy Hall (49:21):
pretty quick.
So, yeah.
All right.
Uh, let's see.
Um, don't need to really showall the violence, but we will go
ahead and uh, just show thatinitial clip.
So, um, Alvin Camara,

Cole Ingle (49:38):
what is it with hotel

Stoy Hall (49:39):
lobbies?
Yeah.
Near the elevator.
Elevator of

Cole Ingle (49:42):
cameras.
Have you ever been in a hotellobby when somebody just beat
the shit outta somebody?
Nope.
I mean he

Stoy Hall (49:46):
does.
I don't think so.
I've been in quite a few hotellobbies.
I don't think I've seen onehave, by the way, but this is
where this shit goes down.
Not saying that his career isdone, but not saying that it's
in good hands.

Cole Ingle (49:56):
Well, I mean, it was already in question to begin

Stoy Hall (49:58):
with, and as a Falcons fan, I am all okay with
that.
And this, you can't do that.
Be smarter.
Yeah.
Don't do stupid shit.
I don't understand theseathletes.
And making very, very dumbdecisions.
I do.
From a perspective of, I'm surethere's some mental health
issues, I'm sure how they'reraised, but bro,

Cole Ingle (50:19):
I mean, I'm just putting all the connections
together.
These are running backs.
Mm.
In hotel lobbies,

Stoy Hall (50:27):
running backs, hotel lobbies, running backs in there.
Prime in hotel lobbies.
Gotta stop doing it.
You gotta stop doing it, bro.
There's cameras there.
Cameras.
Alright.
No, this is not because I'm abras fan.
This is not a Homer post.
This is, this is a, a rules postthat I'm sure will get fixed

(50:47):
before the regular season comes.
We're just skipping all over theplace.
We're in

Cole Ingle (50:50):
a baseball now.

Stoy Hall (50:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, we are.
Okay, we're gonna jump back togolf.
That's too, no, that's, I'm nottrying to go in order.
That's, I'm going in order.
All good Twitter.
That's all good.
That's all, all one of these, Alot of these have just, they,
they hit me and I have emotions.
So I don't know if you guys, didyou know the rules

Cole Ingle (51:07):
before we get into this?
Did you know what the rules werebefore you started watching the
highlights on like

Stoy Hall (51:12):
day one or, I knew that there was a, there was a
new, um, pitch clock.
Pitch clock.
I did not know the nuances ofthe batter clock or the pitch
clock.
Cause they're the same, or Ididn't, they're all integrated.
I thought it was legitimatelyyou have 11 sec or whatever.
I don't 15, 15 seconds to throwthe ball all.
I was like, sweet.
That makes sense.

(51:32):
However, comes out to find thefact of there's a batter clock.
The batter's, the batter clock.
Well you had to have a batterclock and there's a batter clock
because of a

Cole Ingle (51:40):
time clock.
You can't put the pitcher on theclock if the batter's

Stoy Hall (51:43):
not on the batters crooks.
But like, I, so I'm just like,what is going on?

Cole Ingle (51:48):
I, I did the same thing you did cuz I was like,
there's an eight second batterclock there.
Eight

Stoy Hall (51:51):
second batter clock.
15 second.
15 second.
I think it's 15 second.
Yeah.
This just had 11 second.
It's 11 seconds.
There was 11 left.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
15 second pitch clock, eightsecond batter clock.
All right, so this

Cole Ingle (52:04):
is from when?
Do you know what?
I'm sorry.
I'm asking questions that Idon't know if you know.
Yeah.
Is is that from receipt of theball?
From the catcher?

Stoy Hall (52:14):
Uh, for the, the, the 15

Cole Ingle (52:16):
or the, I mean, I assume the 15 starts and then at
seven seconds the batter has tobe ready so that the picture
eight seconds.
Well, no, it'd be 15 eightseconds down to seven.
Yeah.
So like the clock would showseven.
Right.
I don't know what they'reseeing.
Is the problem, like are theyonly seeing one clock or are
they seeing a battery clock?

Stoy Hall (52:33):
No.
Right now there is, in thispicture, doesn't do it justice.
Right.
They have a giant clock to left.
Right.
For the picture.
For the picture.
I don't know what the batter'sseeing.

Cole Ingle (52:40):
I assume they have something in the outfield over
the fence that says, oh, thatcounts

Stoy Hall (52:43):
down from eight.
Yeah, I would assume so.
Okay.
Um, once

Cole Ingle (52:46):
the catcher or the pitcher

Stoy Hall (52:48):
catches the ball, I, I don't know.
I think it's when he takesplace.
I don't know that.
Okay.
Got your nuance, but I do knowmm-hmm.
that he's gotta be in thebatter's box.
Right.

Cole Ingle (52:58):
and ready

Stoy Hall (52:59):
to receive the pitch or, and apparently eyes up is
the thing.
Eye eyes up.
Um, and so what happens, okay,we're at bottom nine.
Red Sox, Braves bases.
Loaded.
Base is loaded.
Full count, full count, twoouts.
And this is the scenario, right?

(53:20):
Um, I, I think he had steppedoutta the box, but he's sit in
the box.
He's deemed the, the, the, um,deemed him not ready.
Correct.
Okay.
Which, I mean, he wasn't No, he,he I mean, hold on back to, I'm
gonna go back to the rule withthe eyes.
His eyes are up.
So also I'll

Cole Ingle (53:40):
get there.
I'm good.

Stoy Hall (53:42):
I wanna get there.
So they call him strike threegame.
Everyone's confused as shit.
Mm-hmm.
well, everybody at first, heactually runs down to, first, he
runs down first because it's

Cole Ingle (53:52):
the other way.
Has done something wrong,

Stoy Hall (53:54):
not well.
He's taking the clock for thepitcher.
Okay.
Because then it's a ball.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
So he's taking first base gameover.
Right.
Okay.
So that's what's going on rightnow.
Okay.
Literally, he's standing in thebox, his eyes are up.
He might not be in the bestbatting position, but why would
you be if the catcher isstanding in the other box?
Straight up looking down theline?

Cole Ingle (54:15):
Yeah.
He's looking at his wristband tocall the

Stoy Hall (54:16):
pitch, oh, my bad.
But are relevant.
He's not set ready.

Cole Ingle (54:21):
He's not in the catcher's box already.

Stoy Hall (54:23):
So we have, so now we have, have a catcher's tie.
If this thing continues, which Idon't think, I think they'll,
they'll figure this out becausethis doesn't make sense.
We have a pitcher ready, abatter.
I mean, as a batter, you'retechnically ready.
As soon as the pitcher would goback, he would just put his
back.
If you're in the box, you're,you're gonna be ready with your
eyes up.
I just don't understand.
The catcher couldn't receiveanything right now.

(54:44):
I mean,

Cole Ingle (54:44):
he could, he's standing there.
Like if the guy starts his windup, he's gonna catch it.

Stoy Hall (54:48):
Yeah, but like as a batter.
No, I agree.
He's not ready.
I'm

Cole Ingle (54:52):
not disagreeing with what

Stoy Hall (54:53):
you're saying.
How's

Cole Ingle (54:53):
the ump in here going?
I don't know why there's abatter's clock.

Stoy Hall (54:56):
I don't know why it's a batter's clock.
Because

Cole Ingle (54:58):
here's what you do.
You get rid of the batter'sclock.
You tell the pitcher he's got 15seconds pitch whenever.
Whenever the hell he's ready.
I don't give a shit.
If you're standing in there, I'mthrowing it.
You know what your ass is gonnado as a batter, get in the damn
box.
Right.
We're we

Stoy Hall (55:11):
can eliminate that.
I think that's why they did thebatters, because they give them
time to get set.
Right.
And so then from there thepitcher can go because otherwise
you get your ass in there.
Looks, otherwise, if you startthe clock at zero, he has 15
seconds to throw.
Right.
While he's walking up.
I can throw a strike.
But

Cole Ingle (55:25):
the thing is, is with the catcher, the catcher's
irrelevant.
I, I know it looks bad, but thecatcher's irrelevant because if
that catcher isn't ready at 15,it's on the pitcher.
Like that's what the pitcherclock

Stoy Hall (55:38):
is covering I think.
I think you have to say, whenyou say pitcher clock, Those two
are in tandem.
Oh yeah.
It's, it's the battery clock.
It's the, yeah, it's the batteryclock.
Uhhuh the batter, the pitcherand the catcher need to be in
position.
Right.
But, and not, and so I, this

Cole Ingle (55:55):
one box all over the place, one soak, this was

Stoy Hall (55:58):
league game.
This one got me.
But then I, um, see, and I don'tknow what picture it was.
He's like, I actually like thiscuz it, it, it's to the
advantage of the pitcher whoisn't sent into the routine
batters are, have more routineand more nuances to how they do
their thing than a pitcher.
So I will agree, except forclosers,

Cole Ingle (56:19):
relief pitchers are gonna be uncomfortable.
Correct.
Um, and, and I, I would evenlean to, to your point to
closers.
Closers especially, they have awhole, when the game's on the
line, because they're coming into literally close the.
to literally win or lose.
Yeah.
A game.
Um, so that's, you know, theputt on the 17th and 18th hole

(56:41):
on a, on a Sunday.

Stoy Hall (56:42):
That's, but also that rule shouldn't be for them.
Could you imagine coming downthe 18th and they're already on
the clock because of earlier on?

Cole Ingle (56:50):
Well, you mean like they were this week

Stoy Hall (56:52):
I didn't, I didn't know that.
That's funny.
But like

Cole Ingle (56:54):
two and a half holes behind.
Oh, ouch.
But the two guys that were, theywere playing together to win.
So you're going

Stoy Hall (57:02):
you can't knock them.
Well, I

Cole Ingle (57:04):
mean, but you're gonna knock'em the same.
Right.
So relevant doesn't, you canknock'em all the strokes you
want.
They're not gonna make it likethere was enough of a gap that
it wasn't right.
Gonna matter.
But I

Stoy Hall (57:13):
don't think that should be for the, the closers,
unless they're being egregious.
But most closers aren't, theyhave a routine.
Right.
It's an intense moment.
Mm-hmm.
batters don't really mess withclosers either though.
No.
Like, like, it's typically notone of those things where I'm
stepping outta the box fourtimes.
I mean, this is, I just thismost ridiculous, I can't wait
till that change.
I apologize to everybody.

Cole Ingle (57:32):
It'll be,

Stoy Hall (57:33):
uh, I'll take some getting used to back to golf.
Do you see this line up?
This line?
This field was Yeah.
So this was just on a Monday.
It was yesterday actually.
Better come on.
Oh, oh, oh.
Back up, Mike.
Look at, I'm gonna give you guystime just to look at the T times

(57:55):
here and just look at some ofthe players.
I don't even have to point'emout for you.
Just look like, take your time.
It's fine.
You know, lemme get to sheettoo.
Say,

Cole Ingle (58:07):
I don't think sheet one was

Stoy Hall (58:08):
very good.
It's not as good, but I mean,you, stu you have, it's just
look at this, uh, this side

Cole Ingle (58:15):
just, I mean, there you go.
Now you're starting to get tosome names there on page two.
Page one.
Didn't have a lot of names onit.
No.
I mean, if, but I mean, youdidn't have to have a lot of
names in order to compete withthe, you had, but like a lot of
some of these guys played thisweekend.
They did.
Uh, CHUs are here.
Yeah.
Horschel

Stoy Hall (58:31):
Horschel.
Um, like, but Larry, what?
Larry, I mean, JT ended upwinning.
Oh, Larry flew out.
Yeah.
Like this meant more

Cole Ingle (58:41):
Uhhuh and Tea because he came out Wait, wait,
wait.
And played at the Seminole on ateight

Stoy Hall (58:46):
30 in the morning.
Yeah.
I Fred even look at the details.
Oh yeah.
Yes.
This lineup Way better thanplayed at seven 30.
This was better than the Hondaand the live combined.
Oh, absolutely.
Like without just

Cole Ingle (59:00):
this page.
And basically it's just a bigProAm.
Um, but it is, you see Tom Bradyon there, um, hilarious.
You see, you know, he playedwith f now.
Hilarious.

Stoy Hall (59:08):
I just loved that.
But

Cole Ingle (59:10):
yeah, JT ended up winning that tournament.
I loved it.
Did he?
Yep.

Stoy Hall (59:14):
Well, I mean, JT and his partner legitimately his
home course, right?
No, I, so he, you should,shouldn't

Cole Ingle (59:19):
have lost.
Yeah.
Shot 63.
It's just a one day.
It's a little fun.
Uhhuh Little fun.
But it is handicapped.
He didn't win the handicapportion.
They won

Stoy Hall (59:26):
the, the side bats on that thing.
Oh, I loved it.
Netflix, you should have beenthere.
They probably were.
That's true.
The side bets on that one.
I bet were,

Cole Ingle (59:35):
that'd been a fun one to be at though, just cuz it
was a one day or I bet that waspretty aggressive.
I don't know that there were So

Stoy Hall (59:41):
checking in on Liv.
Speaking of tickets, speaking oftickets, just checking in on Liv
in an afternoon programming ofcw.
On the CW

Cole Ingle (59:50):
is this seventh heaven?
I think I used to watch thatshow on cw.

Stoy Hall (59:53):
Just saying, uh, let's throw that one in there.

Cole Ingle (59:56):
Yeah.
So, uh, they're having fun atlive.
Yeah.
Lives.
Nobody's in there.
Nobody.
Nobody That's there not, thereis not one or nobody.
Yeah.
Nobody that's not there is notwatching.
But we won't stick

Stoy Hall (01:00:05):
on that one long.
But, uh, yeah.
Hello?
Yikes.
All right.
From you roughing, a passer froma quarterback.
No way.

Cole Ingle (01:00:14):
Um, yeah, I mean I've always, you know, I know
this side.

Stoy Hall (01:00:17):
I've been on this.
I know, but I, this was a good

one.
So Field Yates, um, realapplying to.
um, mark Maskey one NFL team hasproposed making roughing the
passer reviewable by instantreplay.
Uh, competition committeeexpects to review the, the
proposal yesterday.
Uh, I didn't see anything elsein follow up to that.

(01:00:41):
Pardon?
Um, make the news yet.
Phil Yates kind of feels like wedo about that as far as it
shouldn't have a major impact onthe game.
There's very obvious non callsor recalls.
Uh, my very brief and distinctopinion on is, is if we're
buzzing down like we are now,the booth already the booth, the

(01:01:04):
booth just needs to buzz downand tell you to pick up the
flag.
We move on with the game.
Zero should not, not zerofactor.
This is not a walk to thesideline ever.
Like if you ever have to walk tothe sideline to review it, then
it stands as called.
Um, but.
They just need to, to conferencedown.
Say, pick up the flag.

(01:01:25):
Sorry.
There's no, there's no flag forroughing the pass around the
play.
Everybody forgets about it.
You move on.
Um, us the NFL never announcedthat though.
Like when they were, I mean, wetalked about it a ton during the
postseason.
We just did it.
They just started doing it andthen we had the chip in the
ball.
I mean, didn't all those things,

Stoy Hall (01:01:42):
uh, was it They didn't really, was it week, was
it week 18 though, that theystarted?
Maybe.
I feel like it wasn't theplayoffs yet and they just did
it and we were like, time out.
Yeah, all season season.
You didn't, did you do it allseason?
Did we forget something, right?
No, you just wanted to mentionit now.

Yeah.
I don't, I mean, and I don'tknow what the answer to that is,
but the fact that it was never,like, it was never a point of
discussion.

Stoy Hall (01:02:02):
No, but it is now.
Apparently it is a thing.
Uh, and

as it should be.
Like that's just flow of thegame.
Like you have these, I mean,you're paying those guys how
much money couple

Stoy Hall (01:02:11):
mill and like

we as fans absolutely get the best views,
the slow mos, like we are refsin our living rooms.
because of the shots that we getfrom technology, from the
overhead, from the, I mean weget six different angles.
The rep that threw the flag gotone angle.
Yeah.
So it's not fair to the refs.
Completely

Stoy Hall (01:02:33):
agree.
So put rest in the bamboo.
Who knows the rules, which seeswhat we see and that's what they
have.
So, so just get it, John beingdone.
Right.
Like don't make it a big deal.
And then he goes, buzz.
Yep.
Pick up the flag.
Yep.
Just missed that one.
Move on.

Pick up.
Move it on.
Cool.
Buzz flag will be picked up.
First

Stoy Hall (01:02:54):
step now game over like our net Game over.
Move on.
Yeah.

And Pace play stays the same.
Like that's all

Stoy Hall (01:03:01):
we like.
We would be more upset probablybecause the announcers wouldn't
get the information immediately.
Right.
So we'd be like, whoa, what thehell was that?
Yeah.
But then like we would get itfrom Bino or somebody and used
to it.
Just

fix up.
Okay, cool.
Like let's keep the flow of thegame going, so.
Oh, absolutely.

Stoy Hall (01:03:16):
Oh man.
Sticking to football.
I have this.
Mm.
Uh, let me make sure we gotsound.
The bags are different.
Yeah.
We want mother, father, youknow, dual parent.
Mm-hmm.
We want that kid to be three,five and up cuz he gotta be
smart.
Mm-hmm.
um, not bad decisions off thefield, uh, at all.

(01:03:37):
Mm-hmm.
because he has to be a leader ofmen.
It's so many differentattributes in what we look for.
Uh, physical, I mean, offensiveline defensive lineman is
totally opposite.
What do you mean single mama

trying to get

Stoy Hall (01:03:49):
it?
He's on free lunch.
I mean, like, uh, I mean, I'mtalking about just trying to
make it, he trying to rescuemama Like, so this one hits so
many different feelings for me.
Like left, right up, down, upall the, all over the place.

(01:04:10):
Mm-hmm.
my initial listening to it ingut reaction was like, Duh.
Now for those that are justlistening, um, this was Dion
talking about how he recruitsmm-hmm.
And essentially I'm a, I'm gonnasummarize cuz you can listen
later.
Offensive guys.
He wants to come from a atwo-parent home solid structure.

(01:04:32):
May, uh, 3.2 gpa, I think.
Was it o lineman and aboveacross the board for offensive
guys.
Defensive guys.
He wants dogs.
I don't care about it.
Single parent, home, hardworker.
Don't care about your gpa.
Just I need dogs.
Now.
When I first heard that, I waslike, yeah, right.

(01:04:53):
Let's go defense.
And then, um, and then I, andthen I got to thinking more
about it.
Um, I came from a single parenthome.
Obviously I ended up being adefensive guy, but I was a
fullback.
Like I loved that position morethan I did linebacker until I
was only playing linebacker.
Yeah.
I got to thinking about it from,um, a perspective of households.

(01:05:16):
Yeah.
There is so many black boys atthat point that don't have
fathers that Dionne knows this.
Mm-hmm.
that could not play offense.
That there's outlet.
This is not, this is, he's notonly picking this, right.
He prefers, okay, this is whathe's saying.

(01:05:37):
I mean, it came out of hismouth.
Literally.
The fact that they can't go playoffense for him.
Right.
The fact that now, or the factthat if you're on the fence, I
better go play defense.
Well,

and if he, if Dion's on the fence between Right.
You and you, you're both fourstars.
You're both three stars.
You're both five stars.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, we know where, right.
I mean, he has come out with hisbias,

Stoy Hall (01:06:06):
and I, I applaud him for that.
I applauded him for hisdirectness and all of that.
But then I started really divinginto it in like how bad of a
message it could be.
Mm-hmm.
in where we're at currently inour American society.

(01:06:26):
Mm-hmm.
um, does it make, uh, a blackman who has a child more apt to
stay in the home?
No factor.
No.
Doesn't matter.
No.
Does it put more mental strainin issues and trauma on a black

(01:06:49):
kid whose father left him?
Yes.
Because you're narrowing hispool of success even more.
Yeah.
And that's what, um, you know,Chris Williamson is basically
staying.
That's what a lot of.
black athletes were saying isyou were making it harder.
Mm-hmm.
you just made it harder.

(01:07:11):
Right?
For the majority of us,majority's probably aggressive.
I don't know the numbers Right.
To be successful because nowother college coaches are gonna
look at this, this is gonna bethe new norm.
Now it won't be, but like, allright, it's gonna be geared
towards that.
And this is now public becauseof you.
Yeah.
I just

like, that's, I didn't understand the benefit.
Um, just looking at it from aglobal perspective, I didn't
understand the benefit of Dionneone saying it, but two, like it
was a very casual conversation.
Um, oh, Eisen laughing.
Um, which, which, I mean, solike the whole, like for the

(01:07:53):
whole conversation to come upcasually into very pointed like,
recruiting verticals.
Yeah.
For lack of a better Chan, uh,name is just like, first of all,
like, why are you sharing any ofyour recruiting tactic,
recruiting tactics, um,procedures, you know?

(01:08:14):
Mm-hmm.
whatever.
And then second of all, like whyare you going into that detail?
The detail so detailed.
Like, I mean, let put me inthere.
Right.
Whitest white dude.
Coaching.
If I say that I don't have a

Stoy Hall (01:08:32):
job.
No, you're done.

Um, you were done.
Again, part of the problem inour society.
Mm-hmm.
Um, we're okay with it comingfrom Deion.
We're not okay with it comingfrom Saban when ultimately it's
having probably a bigger impact.
And you can speak to this waymore than I can, but you tell me
If Saban was sitting there andsaid the exact same thing, or if

(01:08:57):
Deion said it, which one has abigger impact on the black
community?
Deion,

Stoy Hall (01:09:02):
I'm gonna play defense.
Like I'm, I'm, I'm only focusedon defense.
Right.

But I mean, if Saban says it, he gets, he gets beat
up from, oh, and he gets

Stoy Hall (01:09:10):
absolutely.
From a racial perspective,railroaded railroad, like
Absolutely.
And

I mean, maybe not fired because he's Nick Saban,
but absolutely railroaded,absolutely.
Put on

Stoy Hall (01:09:21):
complete.
This is, this is everywhere,like so far.
But

that's the media, that's social media, that's the
outlash, that's all of thosethings.
And, and warranted, don't get mewrong.
Mm-hmm.
my point is that this didn'treally get, I mean, yeah, it got
put out there, but it didn't getput on blast.
No.
And it has, his words have abigger impact on that kid that's
going to be affected thanSaban's word.

(01:09:48):
Words would, in my opinion, inmy think a black man saying this
has a bigger impact on the blackcommunity than if a white man
said it.
regard across the board.
And then when you put it, it'sfreaking primetime.
Like, what the hell?
Like, what are you doing?
What,

Stoy Hall (01:10:06):
like you just came from.
Right?
I die.
I from a a, a historicallyblack, black college.
College.
Like you just came from, justcame from there.
So I, again, I watched Andthat's what your

mindset was while you were there.
Like, I didn't watch this.
Maybe that's why they wanted toget rid of

Stoy Hall (01:10:22):
your ass, right?
I didn't watch the whole thing.
No, but, and I'm not gonna givehim the benefit of the doubt at
all from like a contextualstandpoint.
Cuz this's just not bad.
You should know this and heknows this.
He's a marketer.
Is he playing a game?
Maybe.
Right.
But you can't, I believe youcannot say that as a black man
in his position with his power,uh, because you, you do more

(01:10:45):
harm than good, in my opinion.
Right.
Like

it, and I'm not saying that if Deion wants to
look at his board that way,

Stoy Hall (01:10:53):
Cool.
Don't say it.
Fine.
And like, first of all, it'strade secrets, in my opinion.
Understand that

the way that recruiting happens these days,
you're a lot closer to thosekids than whether or not they
got one or two parents in thehouse, right?
I mean, we're, we've been in thehouse, we understand what that
family life is like.
We, I mean, these coaches know,we know'em right now, we're, you
know, or their recruitingposition knows them, you know
them.
So like, hey, one family house,really solid family, this dude,

(01:11:21):
you know, like, whatever.
Mm-hmm.
But the fact that we're justgonna come out and like, boom,
these are the, this is whatwe're doing.
And not say what you

Stoy Hall (01:11:31):
just said three, right.
3.2 dude.
And it's like also like even 3.2for O line, but 3.5 for position
players, right?
Like you mentioned

like 3.2 and 3.5.
At every high school in Americaare completely different
depending on what thatcurriculum looks like.
So different.
And I'm talking, you look at DesMoines, Iowa, 10 miles apart,
what a 3.5 looks like at EastHigh School in Des Moines and
Southeast po.
Southeast Polk High School inRonalds, Iowa, that are

(01:12:06):
literally, basically off ofUniversity Avenue, less than 10,
12 miles apart, looks completelydifferent.
And I know that because weplayed with Scotty Fabong, who
graduated as Val Victorian fromEast High School.
Scotty, brilliant dude, went tothe Air Force, came back to
Drake, no problems getting intoschool.

(01:12:29):
But Scotty will tell you whathigh school life was like at
East versus what high schoollike life was like at Southeast
Polk versus what it's like inWahe, right.
Versus what it's like in Valley,you know?
Like that's within a metro areawhere you can drive to any of
those places in 25 minutes.
That's not nationwide.
I mean, I know the socioeconomicimpacts just of that, that I

(01:12:53):
know, let alone what Dion'sdealing with on a daily basis.

Stoy Hall (01:12:56):
Like, come on, man.
And, and he's literally, this isliterally like, so at this
point, college, uh, recruitingis worldwide.
So we're talking about the, thisimpacts the world now more now
rationally.
But like, you're, you're talkingabout a small footprint.
This is, this was, I, Idefinitely lost.
It was tone destiny.

(01:13:16):
I, I definitely lost respect fordealing on this.
And I love the shit I, Tiana.
I mean, I think God lost a lotof really good things.
Obviously a Falcon's guy, likeI, I know that, but like, this
one is baffling to me, but thatone hurts, man.
I don't, I don't grasp it.
I

don't understand the point of like, in his mind,
like, uh, what.
Dion is like, to your point,Dion is a marketer.
Like that guy, he knows whathe's doing.
Oh, his exec.
I mean he is set out.
This is what we're doing.
This is why we're doing it.
Regardless of where he is going.
He did this on purpose, but

Stoy Hall (01:13:51):
why?
Obviously part of it, obviouslyfor views, clearly dudes,
stomach sake, he knew this wasgetting attention.
Anytime he speaks, getsattention.
I mean he's on

a very popular,

Stoy Hall (01:14:02):
but like why that?
Right?
Why that

he's on with the dude that runs the broadcasting
at the NFL network.
So it's like he didn't need theviews.
Like I know whoever was on it,but I'm saying there, you and I
could have been on there andbeen famous because we were
talking to Rich Eisen

Stoy Hall (01:14:20):
for shit's sake.
But that's what I'm saying.
What I mean, like it's not forthat, but that's like the only
thing I that what else?

I mean if he wanted to drop that, then just have
your son run the video cameraand drop it.
Just talk to it and drop it onYouTube or whatever the hell you
wanna drop it.
Like put it on a TikTok like

Stoy Hall (01:14:34):
Yeah.
I don't, I don't know.
And media should have blastedthis cuz if a white man would've
done this, it would've beeneverywhere.
And this comes back and I'm notgonna dive into it.
Deep black on black crime is nothighlighted as much as black on
white or white on black.
No, I mean and that's the samething with this, right?
It should be blasted just asmuch because this is more

(01:14:57):
impactful.
Right.
Okay.
I mean

if Kirk Ferren came out and said that dude wouldn't
have a job

Stoy Hall (01:15:03):
at Iowa, he wouldn't have a job.
Huh.
Which is saying a lot cuz theydon't fire Fs for shit Right.
For shit.
All right, well let's get backinto golf as we wind this up and
dive Yeah.
Even deeper into, uh, the ArneDne Palmer, which is a delicious
drink.
Add a little vodka.
Even better.
Yeah.

You mean the daily.

Stoy Hall (01:15:23):
Yes.
The daily, um, back to nucleargolf, by the way.
Okay.
So Liv Liv's job is to, well,job is trying to take over and
dominate the pga, blah, blah,blah.
It's documented.
That's what they want to do.
Right?
They also have changed howthey're, and this goes actually

(01:15:43):
more to your point of themarketing and everything.
Yeah.
Um, but the whole purpose islike, you know, bigger draw, et
cetera.
Yeah.
And now their focus on what theyhave said has always been in the
United States.
They've obviously have a drawglobal.
We're gonna count that out.
We're only focused on the UnitedStates right now, and yes, we're
Americans.
So Mer uh, the other point of itis the fact that they, you know,

(01:16:10):
have their, basically their ownviewership, right?
They're trying to really focusthat on the us So here's the
stats.
Official ratings are in.
This is the US viewership FortLiv on CW and Honda on n nbc.
People can make a, an argumentabout, again, the international

(01:16:30):
audiences and streaming numbers,but we all know the US is the
biggest market and it's why Livis Flaunted being in 120 plus
million homes on the US tv.
Okay.
So let's go ahead and make thisa little bigger.
Well, or, or the exact opposite.
Okay.

(01:16:50):
Let's make that way smaller.
How do you zoom?
Let's make it

smaller, but then we can see more.

Stoy Hall (01:16:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So for you watching, you'll beable to see this, uh, when I cut
it up.
That being said, so let's startwith the lowest viewership.
Mm-hmm.
lowest viewership was on the CWLive golf on Saturday.
Yeah.
Okay.

(01:17:14):
Next, uh, CW Live golf onSunday, Sunday.
Okay.
Uh, then we've got all four dayson the PGA Tour Network.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Part of it, we were justcomparing n NBC to cw.
Yep.
But we gotta throw in the, thenet, the golf in between, it's

(01:17:37):
the golf channel in between thegolf channel.
So the golf channel makes upeverything between what's gonna
happen with NBC and, and liftgolf.
Okay.
Yep.
And so, CW and the golf channel,reasonably the same numbers.
I think it goes from like 2 96to, I can't see that.
8 31.

(01:17:57):
8 31.
Yep.
Okay.
We're within a, we're within arange.
Okay.
Then I'm gonna get out so I canactually read the numbers to
you.
6 31, excuse me.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
2 86.
2 86 to 6 31.
So we have a, that's areasonably smallish.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
The top two, neither one aregreat.

(01:18:19):
NBC Saturday.
Yep.
1,610.
So 1000 more than the golfchannel and 1400 more than live
did tops.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
It's fine.
That's, that's a big number.
Yeah.
And we get to Sunday in BC atDamn near 2,400.

(01:18:41):
Yeah.
10 Xam.
Pretty much Damn near 10 Xam.
Yeah.
10 Xtm, that's a new

one.
And this is the, one of thebottom

Stoy Hall (01:18:54):
probably will be the lowest numbers in golf this
year.
Debatably.
The lower sister.
I

probably, and this was the first lived tournament
of the year, specifically put onthis weekend.
So they did not compete with anyof the big tournaments, any of
the big tournaments.
I mean, the numbers speak forthemselves.
I don't have to say,

Stoy Hall (01:19:15):
just want everyone to know what the numbers were.
Yeah.
That's all that was.
The numbers don't lie.
Numbers don't lie.
All right.
Here we are.
We're back.
Yeah.
Back to golf.
Right?
Wow.
Back to golf in all the emailsbecause it phone vibrate I

(01:19:39):
thought it was cuz of that.
But off to the Arnie, Arnie,Arnie Palmer, man.
What did it?
Yeah, we're good.
I I love this course.
I love playing indoors.
Um, I think we should go do thaton Friday, but whatever's

Arnold Palmer Invitational.

Stoy Hall (01:19:57):
All right, let's, uh, roll, roll out.
Wow.
The amount of

at Bay Hill, um, defending champion Scotty
Scheffler You hear that a lot

Stoy Hall (01:20:11):
this year?
I think put that one on repeat.
Uh, yeah.
Ooh, I need to go to Draftking.

Uh, so you're looking at, um, I'll jump in
here and, and do a quick weatherbreakdown, uh, Thursday through
Sunday in Orlando.
The first week in, in March, uh,Thursday is 89 degrees, five to

(01:20:37):
10 mile an hour wind.
And sunny, uh, my onlyassumption is maybe a bit humid,
but, uh, enjoyable weather onThursday, Friday.
The wind's gonna pick up alittle bit.
Uh, we've got 91 for a high onFriday, but the wind mid-morning
through early afternoon's gonnapick up to 15 to 20.

(01:21:01):
So right on the cusp of having,uh, having a little bit of
impact there, just, uh,depending, uh, Saturday there's
a 44, 40 to 50% chance of rain,uh, mid to late afternoon.
uh, 20% chance of rain the restof the day.
Okay.
So yeah, my, I mean, kind of aFlorida rain type of thing,

(01:21:24):
right?
Uh, so you might, might getenough, uh, to postpone a little
bit, but I don't think you'regonna get enough to, to move the
tournament days or anything likethat.
It doesn't seem, um, windsreally aren't too big of a
factor that day either.
So, um, you know, maybe in thatsame 10 to 15, uh, maybe up to

(01:21:44):
20 gusts type of thing.
So I don't, I don't see anythingcrazy there.
And then Sunday's supposed to bepretty much perfect, 83 after
the cooling rain comes in, fivegreat finish, miles an hour, a
great finish.
So yeah, perfect condition, softcourse for finish.
Expect low scores on Sunday.
Um, so it might be up for some,some surprise there just
because, uh, there's gonna be,I, I feel like low numbers out

(01:22:07):
there, um, come Sunday morning.
So,

Stoy Hall (01:22:10):
and, um, from a, a field perspective, Yeah.
So we talked about, you saw thefield earlier.
Yeah.
Right.
On our Twitter, just those, allof them are playing, let's put
it that way, right?
Like this is, uh, you got Rom,Scheffler, Rory Schley, pheno,
Cantley, Marwa, ZLA, Torress,Homa, Holin, jt uh, Hatton, day

(01:22:35):
M, Fitzpatrick Young, Tom, Kim,Keith, Mitchell, Jordan, SP,
ducky, Zi, Shane Lare.
And I just went through like thetop 20, right, right.
Like that's where we stand.
Yeah.
Ladies and Jets.
This is, uh, a really good fieldand as it should be, as we gear
up for the players.
Yeah.
Um, so good to see you.

(01:22:55):
Good to see you there.
And, um, what I would like toknow, at least on DraftKings and
I can pull up, um, FanDuel ifyou are busy, let's see if I can
run both at the same timewithout effing something up.
Uh, I need PJ.
Please, please and thank you.
You hanging?
Nope.

(01:23:15):
Yep.
They're both sitting at thesame.
There is, there's a sizable gapfrom an N'S perspective of the
top three to the rest of thefield.
Um, Rob Sheley and Rory, I thinkthey flip a little bit.
They go from six 50 to 900 plus900.
Then it, then it's schley,pheno, cantley at plus 2000.
And you've got DraftKings,right?
Uhhuh.
And I was actually talking aboutboth of'em cuz I looked it up,

(01:23:36):
but Right.
That legit, that's a, that's agap.
Let's get big gap.
Yeah.
I mean, and I mean that's biggap,

especially for what we're used to seeing within, I
mean those are, that's a loadedYeah.
Top 15 even.
Huh?
Um, that's a gap.
And the, it's funny because thegap between third and fourth is
as big as the gap between fourthand like

Stoy Hall (01:24:04):
14 and like the rest.
Yeah.
I

mean, you go from.
Houma, Enza, TAUs at plus 2000.
Like Holand and Day are plus3,100.
And that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,8,

Stoy Hall (01:24:19):
9 guys.
And it's all over the mapbecause, uh, z Tous and Homer
plus 2200 and they're, andthere's Chk female cant lay Mcca
car above them at 2000.
Mm-hmm.
look, there's, there's gapshere.
There's, there's

value here.
Definitely difference in, insights as well this week again.
Yeah.
Um, get some value out there ifyou like a certain

Stoy Hall (01:24:41):
guy.
Throw it out there though.
JT did win on Monday.
He did.
Just saying in Florida.
So,

uh, pick should be interesting this week just
because we have the guys mm-hmm.
um, we've made the switch, theshift, if you will, from West
coast to Florida.

Stoy Hall (01:24:58):
Mm-hmm.
um,

the Florida swag, we've talked about this before.
There are guys that play inArizona and there are guys that
play in.
Florida in the off season.
And those are, I mean,California, Arizona, and, and
Florida are like, those aretheir, are three main areas that
we're playing golf in the UnitedStates.
Absolutely.
Relatively speaking year roundor as these guys are playing,

(01:25:21):
that's where their members at.
Anything like that, um, thatmakes a difference.

Stoy Hall (01:25:26):
It does.
Um, you're not wrong.

This is, you know, home field advantage for some
guys and other guys.
It's, uh, you know, they'recoming, it's uncomfortable
coming in hot, but notnecessarily on Yeah.
Their, what, what would be theirhome courses.
So, uh, a lot to take in fromthat perspective.

(01:25:50):
I would say the hottest guys inthe world are actually typically
West Coast players.
Mm-hmm.
right now.
Um, when you look at Homa Rom,Scheffler is kind of a mix.
Uh, he's won on both sides, uh,last year.
So he, he.
Is from Texas.
So that kind of makes sense.
Um, he kind of probably justdoes whatever, but, um, you

(01:26:13):
know, if you're looking at, atColin, um, you know, jts gonna
be more of a Florida guy.
Fina's gonna be more of anArizona guy.
Uh, Jason Day, gonna be more ofa Florida guy.
I think Holand's a Florida guy.
Homa more of a West coast guy.
Uh, McElroy more of a Floridaguy.
Yep.
So, huh.

(01:26:34):
There's, I mean, there's a lotto it, you know, lot.
Do you ride the hot hand?
Do you ride the home course?
Uh, do you do a little bit ofboth?
Um, I think a little bit ofboth, probably.
We'll see.
Sprinkle here, sprinkle there.
But, uh, any big, uh, bigthoughts going into this
weekend?
As far as, I mean, in your mind,one of the, one of the big guys

(01:26:56):
has taken this down.
Ah,

Stoy Hall (01:26:59):
absolutely.
Okay.
If you're picking one and done,you, you better, you better go
top.
You can go top seven.
but one of them is knocking thisthing down.
Okay.
And I don't, I don't see guys,it's, it's a deep field, but I
don't, I don't see it comingfrom someone else.

(01:27:19):
Okay.
Not, not a chance.
Not in Florida.
Not with the way, uh, they'replaying, man.
Yeah.
Just, there's good value, but Idon't see it.
I just, I just don't see youbear, pick top seven to ride
chalk.
Chalk away this week.
Chalk away.
That's why, uh,

I mean, there's a lot of, I mean, that's the thing
this week is there's just a ton

Stoy Hall (01:27:39):
of chalk.
There's so much chalk.
Uh, top 40 will be easy.
Uh, player fades gonna be alittle tough, dark horse.
Uh, relatively.
I'm relatively easy not to win,but like, they're gonna play
well.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, you've got a lot ofvalue this week.
Um, picking the winner asactually probably the, I would
believe, I think is the hardestpick.
Yeah.
It always is.
Let's be real.
I mean, right.
But like this one, This istough.

(01:28:02):
And I'm, I'm actually going moreof an emotional pick when I pick
Oh, not you.
Yeah, right.
Uh, when I pick, you never gowith the gut.
When I pick my outright, um, I'mstill stuck on my one and done.
But the rest man, you got value.
Yeah, you got value.
So let's start at the bottom.
Player to fade.
Probably one of the hardestpicks, actually, I would

(01:28:23):
probably actually singly putthis is, this is gonna be a
tough one.
Yeah.
Um, but I'll start it off.
Okay.
I'm going exactly what you justsaid with the, the whole fe the
whole Phoenix, west coast, eastCoast, yeah.
Florida swang.
Um, and I'm, I'm gonna go, I'msadly, sadly I'm gonna go with
our boy female, um, firsttournament in Florida.

(01:28:48):
He's just not gonna.
Okay.
He's, he's a Phoenix guy.
That's what happens, uh, rightnow.
Plus, now I got him at plus

two.
You got him plus 2000.
But where's he at in your order?
Cause that's gonna matter thisweek.
1,

Stoy Hall (01:28:59):
2, 3.
He's t3.
See,

and I've got him at, geez, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,

Stoy Hall (01:29:08):
10.
I will take the t3.

Interesting.

Stoy Hall (01:29:14):
Very, to be fair, there's four tied at

three.
He's at plus 2,600 all alone at,

Stoy Hall (01:29:20):
uh, wow.
He, he

stops the top 10 on FanDuel.
Wow.

Stoy Hall (01:29:28):
So, by the way, I think draft King's and FanDuel,
and I'll probably say this alot, they need a fade one like
we do.
Yeah.
They need a fade one.
Right.
But anyways, wow.
I will take that at t3, so,yeah.

Um, wow.

Stoy Hall (01:29:44):
But I, I like'em inside the top 15.
Is that bad?
No, I mean, I,

I, that's, I feel like, and misses, but to, to
take both sides honestly.
Like really, um, in a littlebit, uh, from that perspective.
Um,

Stoy Hall (01:30:00):
and for me, he'll end up at like nine.
Yeah.
And I, I don't win.

So what is Homa on your side?

Stoy Hall (01:30:09):
You can't, can't, you don't know that until after?
No, that's just not, that'sexactly how that works.

That's not how that works.
Um, I just don't, I mean, I'mnot betting against Rom.

Stoy Hall (01:30:25):
Um, no.
Can you be against Vri and Arne?
I mean, I don't want the onetournament.
Like he really wants to winoutside of Major.

Let's met 10 guys.
And the guys that I would who,um, bet against would be, um,
rainy Champ Scheffler would beeither Colin or, or Homa.
Um, Because they're more WestCoast guys.
Yeah.
Uh uh Which one is fourth andone is, well, one is t4 and the

(01:30:56):
other one is technically 2100.
So he would be sixth alone orfifth.
You know, if you're, if you'redoing t4, you got one.
Oh, I you got two.
Two T t2, two at t4 and he wouldbe sixth, I guess.

(01:31:16):
Um, who do I think has a, I'mgonna fade

Stoy Hall (01:31:21):
Homa.
All right.
Oh, I hate doing that.

That makes me

Stoy Hall (01:31:25):
physically ill.
He's a t4.
Do be fair, mark was T3 one ofthe hundred at t3?
So that one's tough.
Uh, yeah, cuz

MoCo is 2100 here and ho almost

Stoy Hall (01:31:43):
2000.
Home was 22.
Mark was two.
Two.
So, but all

right.
Homa and V now, uh, two of ourfavorite golfers.

Stoy Hall (01:31:52):
Yeah, I know.
It so sucks.

Like, it'll be like, I won't root against these guys
this weekend.
No, no.
But at all.
But, uh, yeah, but I could

Stoy Hall (01:31:59):
see it.

Yeah, could see it.
So, uh, they could also possiblywin and be a double shitty shot.
So Oh, wouldn't that be

Stoy Hall (01:32:07):
a something

motherfucker.
All right.

Stoy Hall (01:32:09):
Top 40 bitch.
Yep.
Let's go Top 40, man.
There's, I like some aroundhere.
Mm.
Hey, one just jumped right atme, but how do you not take a
Florida kid in the top 40?
I, I don't know.
How don't you?
I mean, so let me ride withBilly Horschel.

(01:32:32):
Oh, he something I had to get inthere quick.
Got me this.
As soon as I said that, I waslike, oh yeah, I'd like that
pair.
I played particularly well lastweek, but Arnie played

good two rounds, played terrible two rounds,
right.
Kind of finished

Stoy Hall (01:32:47):
me,

Billy.
So let's see.
Billy is plus 1 25 plus

Stoy Hall (01:32:51):
1 25.
Ooh.
I haven't got the same hots.
Uh, no.
Excuse me.
Oh,

I'll take 45.
You can get him at plus 1 45.
Wow.
Um, wow.
I am going to ride Bo.
No, no.

Stoy Hall (01:33:09):
Um, Sam Rider?
No.
I think I

like either.
I think I'm gonna go with GaryWoodland i's been playing good
golf.
Gary, Gary plus one

Stoy Hall (01:33:24):
15 plus one Hyundai.

Wow.
For Gary.
The other guy I was looking atthere was Taylor Montgomery,
who's played good, good.
Solid golf this year, so Yeah,that's fair.
Uh, dark horse.

Stoy Hall (01:33:35):
I'm going through Ricky.
These things get aggressivefast.
I had to hurry up and

get that.
Um, he's 5,500 for me.

Stoy Hall (01:33:46):
What the hell is Ricky?
Where'd he go?
Uh, yeah, he's 5,500.
You know what?
Because give me Sam Burns 55.
I mean, why wouldn't I?
Someone's gotta who I mean, butthere's good value here.

(01:34:10):
You got Mat Yama?
Yep.
Five Lowry, king Bradley, JustinRose, Tommy, Fleetwood, Connor,
STIG, Woodland, Kirk.

I mean, you can get Tom Kim good, lower, and Keith
Mitchell both at five.
The rest of those guys are underfive for me.
So Burns is 4,800.
Wait, what?

Stoy Hall (01:34:27):
Yeah, so you're, oh yeah.
No speed.
Where's speed at Keith Mitchelland them are above speeds at

4,100.

Stoy Hall (01:34:35):
Um, not for me.
45.
Yep.

So, I mean, decent value there on a guy that plays
him Florida a lot.
That's a really good golfer.
Um, outright winner and go withthe Rory.
Yep.

Stoy Hall (01:34:57):
We're we're mirroring.
I that was mine.
You know what, I'll move him tooutright or to Oneand.
Done one and done.
Yeah.
You're ready

to

Stoy Hall (01:35:05):
use him?
No, I don't want to go back toRight.
I ask him, but I just didn'twant to be with you.
But I have to at that one.
I mean, I'm not going with himin Oneand Done this week, so I
love me some Rory outright.
I really do.
I, I, I think it's too early fora one and done.
Yeah.
But Rory wants this tournament.
Yeah.
Like beyond his ability inplaying in Florida.

(01:35:27):
He wants to win for Arne.
That says something to me.
Yeah.
That's great.
Now the one and done there isthere's a lot of value.
Yeah.

I've got three, uh, in my mind that I'm looking at
this week.
Um, do you Yeah, I, I, I I knowwho I'm going to pick.
Hmm.
Um, I, do you want to go firstin this one since I No, go
ahead.
You know, um, I'm gonna go with,with XO tos.
Okay.

(01:35:58):
Um, and I will wait to makefurther comments.
He is plus 2200 on your side?
Yeah, that's correct.
Okay.
Uh, I'll wait to make furthercomments on my other two I was
considering, uh, until you pick,just so that I don't

Stoy Hall (01:36:15):
That's fair.
Pull a story.
That's fair.
Uh, faith, it worked out well.
Right.
Um, I want to go with Homa.
Okay.
Just so we can have some funwith it.
Um, I, I wouldn't wanna put Homamy wanted done here.
That's the problem.
Yep.
Um, and I really I, I, I lovesome jt I love some value here.

(01:36:40):
Um, playing in Florida, but I'mgonna ride with Mar Kaba,
actually.
Oh, all right.
I, a little early for him, butI, I just, he wins early.
I don't trust him much morelater in the majors with the
star power that's playing well.
Okay.
And so I will take Mark Hawaplus 2000.

I'll give you a plus 2100 even if you want.
Get it.
What were your other?
So, uh, my other two that I waslooking at, um, this is a huge
tournament for Jason Day aswell.
Agreed.
Um, mm-hmm.
And so he's been playing well,and this is one, like, I don't
think, the reason I'm not goingwith him is I don't think that

(01:37:21):
he's quite there yet in hisvalue in my mind at he's plus
3,100 on my end.
I don't know what you're saying.
Three.
Um, like you had to prove it.
and at plus 3,100 in this field.
In this field.
Like if you do great, like thenyou're, you're there.
I can

Stoy Hall (01:37:39):
use him for this week.
Right.
Or, uh, this year.
Sorry.
Yeah.

And so we'll see.
Yeah.
Uh, the other guy I was lookingat is, is Cantley.
Um, it's just a, it's atraditional tournament.
The guy plays.
Well, he does, um, a traditionaltype of tournaments.
Uh, but there's a lot, uh, Imean, there's a lot to go
around.
I think Lin's gonna play wellhere.

(01:38:02):
Jts gonna play well here.
Never gonna count out Xanderanywhere.
Why was he shuffler Rob?
Like, so, like you look atShuffler and Ramen, like you're
just betting against money thatyou shouldn't bet against with
either one of those two.
And honestly, Homa, um, youknow, we talked about, I'm
fading him.
Mm-hmm.
um, the main reason I'm fadinghim is completely personal from

(01:38:24):
a standpoint of like, this willbe the first time.
I say first time this year thathe has to be away from family
and he's got a young child.
Mm-hmm.
um, where he'll be flying acrossthe country in a play in
Florida.
Again, he's playing golf, solike, could be worse, but like,
I assume his family probablyisn't going with him.

(01:38:45):
Oh.
Um, so like there might be somefate there.
Yeah.
I, that, that's what I've gotfor like why f a guy at this
point in that group.

Stoy Hall (01:38:53):
I, I mean, I, I agree.
I, like I said, I wanted to pickhome one, but there's just that
uncertainty Yeah.
Of that, of that swing of movingand females, I mean, it's the
same type of thing, but it'sonly for me it's only like a
week.
Yeah.
It, it's a routine thing.
Mm-hmm.
they'll be fine.
Oh yeah.
After, right, right.
It's first this, it's a bigevent.

It's a big one.
Arne is arguably the mostpopular golfer sans Tiger Woods
to ever play the game.
Um, yes, Jack.
and many others are moredecorated and, but, but Arne was
a player's player.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and this event always showsthat, I mean, like everything

(01:39:35):
around it, they want to play.
Players wanna play here, want,like, they're playing for
Arnold, you know, Arnold Bomber,um, I'm assuming Ryan, Ryan
Palmer will be playing in thistournament, his grandson.
Um, but he hasn't played wellthis year.
No.
You know, like, uh, you look athim as a dark horse and stuff
like that, it's just his gamejust isn't, hasn't been
informed.
Not to say that it can't be, butFowler's game has been, and

(01:39:58):
Fowler was pretty much love someFowler right now, like Fowler
and Day were, were Arnedisciples.
Yeah.
Um, so that's, you know, kind ofbringing, don't play that back.
Um, but I mean, shit likescheffler repeating, not a
surprise rom finding a way tofumble his way around the course

(01:40:18):
and be the best in the world.
Not outta, not surprise.
Not outta the question.
No, not at all.
The dude hasn't played his bestgolf and his has made himself
the number one golfer in theworld.
Like last year, a couple times,Scotty Scheffler like won his
way to number one somehow, likeby playing the best golf he's
ever played in his life, Ramhas, Ram has not played the best

(01:40:38):
golf in his life.
He's warming

Stoy Hall (01:40:39):
up for the season.
I mean, and like,

you know, like figuring things out.
That's my question with Romthough, is like, is it going to
be a consistent struggle for himall throughout the year?
And he's just that good allthroughout.
And at some point if youcontinue to do that, you're
probably gonna put yourself in aposition where that pressure and
like just putting yourself inbad situations, fails.
Fails because you're playingagainst the best guys in the

(01:41:04):
world.
you know, are, are we justsharpening?
I think he's just,

Stoy Hall (01:41:10):
you know what I mean?
Like right now you can't, youcan't go either way.
You can't argue.
So you're just gonna be like,Hey, you know what?
I think he's sharpening right?
It's still early in the

season.
He's made himself into worldnumber one and not played his
best golf.

Stoy Hall (01:41:19):
No one else has done that.
Let's, let's get through theplayers.
Give me a give, you know, gimmea major and, right.
So let's see where he plays at.

Uh, that's where we're at.
But, uh, quick review there.
You've got, uh, Makawa one anddone.
I've got Zala TAUs.
Uh, we both have Rory as anoutright winner.
Um, Sam Burns and Ricky Fowleras our black stallions, both at
plus 5,500 and top 40 year goingwith Hometown kid Billy hk.

(01:41:47):
And I am going with GaryWoodland and Pledge the Fade,
Tony Phenal for you T3 projectedand Houma T4 projected.
So I really

Stoy Hall (01:41:59):
don't feel good about those.

I mean, you just look at the, I mean, just look
at all the, the names.
Yeah.
Like those are just, that's justa, those

Stoy Hall (01:42:04):
are, those are, those are names, household names of
across the board.
Yeah.
So fun weekend.
Be a fun one.
It's gonna be a fun one.
Obviously gonna be watchingthis, this be putting in my, uh,
living room while I watch thisone because it's time to, it's
time to warm up.
I, I did chip a little around,uh, in the backyard this
weekend.
All right.
Yeah.

One, I only, I gave you a real feel for the

Stoy Hall (01:42:24):
golf course.
I only, well, you should see therough in my backyard right now.
Yeah.
So it did,

it's not that thick on the course, I can tell you
that.
Still matted down.
Still matted.
There was really no rough on thecourse at all.
Nice.
Let's play.
No, I was more, uh, more likelyto find a snow bank than I was
Any, anything resembling Rough.
Yeah.
So tight

Stoy Hall (01:42:42):
lies.
Tight Lies.
Tight Lies.
Tight lies.
All right.
Arne Arne this week.
We will, uh, see you next week.
Yes, sir.
Well, then it's time.

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