Ep. 79 - Dru McAnelly Intro & NFL Draft Recap

Welcome to episode 79 of the podcast! In this episode, hosts Cole Ingle and Stoy Hall are joined by a special guest, Drew McAnelly. Drew shares his background, his love for sports and passion for coaching, and the story of how he moved on from Natty Ice to peanut butter whiskey.

The trio then dives into a recap of the NFL Draft and discusses Dallas's winning moment that stole everyone's heart. They also chat about the upcoming Wells Fargo Championship and share their picks. And for the first time, fans get to see the hosts' sheet, and it's an exciting moment for everyone!

Drew's infectious energy and stories make this episode an absolute blast to listen to, so make sure to tune in and join in on the fun!

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Episode Transcript

Cole Ingle (00:00):
So you've come so

Stoy Hall (00:00):
far.
I

Dru McAnelly (00:01):
know I'm really growing up from the days of
Bonderant to Natty Ice, topeanut butter Whiskey Peanut

Cole Ingle (00:08):
from Natty Ice to a peanut butter whiskey.
I mean that just growing up,he's growing up in.

Stoy Hall (00:13):
If that

Cole Ingle (00:13):
isn't the story

Dru McAnelly (00:14):
of maturity, if I don't deserve to be on this
podcast for that, I don't knowwhat else gives me the right.
So that's

Stoy Hall (00:20):
awesome.
Da.
All right, look at us.
New.
New digs, new

Cole Ingle (00:26):
peeps.
Love it.
Love it.
It's

Stoy Hall (00:29):
been a while.
We we do apologize for that, butthere's some things that changed
a little bit and but we're back.
So cheers to that.
Cheers to that.
Cheers to Drew Cheer.
You guys will meet him later.
Don't worry about that.

Cole Ingle (00:40):
We here though.
We here and my

Stoy Hall (00:42):
son Lincoln decided to jump on the mic.
Yep.

Cole Ingle (00:44):
Cory's gonna pop up in the corner here.
Yep.
Probably.
Can you see a little headbobbing around?
Don't be

Stoy Hall (00:48):
concerned.
It'll be all right.
Whoa.
Hey.
Everybody as host Stoy Hall withour co-host, Colt Engel and a
special guest.
We'll see how you guys feelabout him.
That's usually how this allworks out.
I had to get him one more.
I was once a special guest.
You were.
So yeah.
For a few hours.
I had big shoes to fill tonight.
That's right.
Don't do that.

(01:09):
Yeah, don't give him that.
For

Cole Ingle (01:10):
being six three, my feet aren't

Stoy Hall (01:11):
that big.
No, absolutely.
So tonight we'll do introductionthere with Drew, go through his
background his sports teams, allthose fun things.
We will hit upon the NFL draft,as that just occurred I believe.
Dallas won the hearts ofeverybody, at least.
I don't know how you could, theyhad a moment.
They had a moment, which is allthey usually get.

(01:32):
I

Cole Ingle (01:32):
mean, that's better than some drafts for me.

Stoy Hall (01:34):
And then we got the Wells Fargo Championship this
week.
Yeah, as well.
And guess what?
Fans, you'll actually get to seeour sheet for once.
Hey.
So here we go.
Moving up.
Moving

Cole Ingle (01:44):
on up.

Stoy Hall (01:45):
Drew we're not, we don't do any special intro
things.
All right.
Besides the fact that, did yousee it?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
I put your pick

Dru McAnelly (01:53):
and I'm gonna have, I just have to get a
picture of that thumbnail that,that is

Stoy Hall (01:56):
little thumbnail pick there.
So yeah.
Found it on Google.
That's unbelievable.
Yeah.
You're all over the place.

Dru McAnelly (02:01):
Sincerely made my day.

Stoy Hall (02:03):
There you go.
Good.
Good.
Why don't you tell us aboutyourself?

Dru McAnelly (02:06):
Drew McInally the life and times grew up in
Indian, Iowa.
Both my parents were teachersand dad was a coach.
So I've grown up around sportsmy whole life.
Football practice when I was twoyears old, they ran in reverse
and I got ran over.
So it's been, it explains a lot.
A knockdown, drag out fight withme and the love of sports and
the passion I have for it forsince age two.

(02:28):
Graduated from Indianola HighSchool, played three years of
college basketball, one year ofcollege football, and been
teaching and coaching now for 20years.
Married to my beautiful wife,Meredith and my two amazing
children.
Zane and Zoe's age 13, Zoe's 11,and been in the Ankeny school
district now for 11 years andwas a head girls basketball
coach for seven.
And I just resigned from thatand.

(02:49):
Mr.
Engle over there was fortunateenough to be my assistant.
Multiple times.
Yeah, multiple times.
And we have some stories behindthat, that some of you might get
a kick out of.
But for three years there atAnkeny and so yeah, I just
resigned getting out to enjoywatching my children play.
You only get that small windowof life once and it's gonna be

(03:09):
gone before we know it.
And I can always get back in.
But yeah, that's a little bitabout me and just really happy
to be here tonight with thesetwo amazing gentlemen.
So let's rock and

Cole Ingle (03:18):
roll.
Did you did you play collegesports?

Dru McAnelly (03:20):
Yeah, I played three years of basketball in one
year of football.
What positions?
Quarterback and point guard.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (03:29):
Two quarterbacks.
Yeah.
Two, two Iowa boys.

Cole Ingle (03:32):
This is just I won't give any ground on the
quarterbacking position but Iwill give props to Drew's
basketball abilities.
All right.
Fair.
Even at his old age.
Fair.
Yeah.
What about his, fill it up alittle bit.

Stoy Hall (03:44):
What about his golfing abilities?

Cole Ingle (03:46):
Solid.
Okay.
Consistent.
Okay.
Boring.

Stoy Hall (03:51):
It's an old man.
Exactly.
Old man,

Cole Ingle (03:53):
bald guy.
The opposite of his personality.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Surprisingly.
Which is why I'm hoping he's ayes on the golf trip, because
people I think will be I'vegolfed with him just enough to
be pleasantly surprised.
Hey, he, hey.
He's just steady Eddie man.
Yeah, just get it out there.

Stoy Hall (04:07):
Golf trip.
Hearing some of what happenedlast year, we will be bringing
camera though.
For the pod.
We have to, yeah.
I mean we just have to for thebrand.
Not to mention we have threeextra cameras, so we If they
breaks, it's fine.
Yeah.
Whoops.
But we're bringing that sportsteams, you gotta let everyone
know.

Dru McAnelly (04:23):
Oh gosh.
Ah.
Growing up in Iowa

Cole Ingle (04:25):
cause it's gonna make me physically ill.

Dru McAnelly (04:30):
I I bleed black and gold.
I'm a diehard Hawkeye fan.
And then nba, I grew up a aMichael Guy, so bulls and I'm
for a basketball guy.
I'm not the hugest of N B Afans, but I'm a Bulls fan still.
And N F L New England Patriots Iwould say I'm a very mild
baseball guy.
But I do root for the St.
Louis Cardinals, so I'm all overthe place a little bit there.

(04:53):
But I am a, I, outside of golfand my family and sports, my
true hobby and passion in lifeare my Iowa haw guys, and Cole
can probably

Cole Ingle (05:07):
can.
Unfortunate, and you've alreadydone better in this episode than
we have in the last year onhitting these right on cue.
Yeah.
It's like our production skillsgot better after got better.
Break.
Just a little break.
Either that or Drew just bringsthe best out in our, I think.
I think it's

Stoy Hall (05:20):
more yeah, I feel like we just have been in it
against each other so long thatsomeone else we can just attack.
I love.
That's great man.
I am so happy to have anotherHawkeye on the show.
That's just makes my day.
Especially when perspective itis, and every time that the
Huskers end up beating them atthe end of the season, doesn't
matter what sport it makes itfun to talk about.

(05:41):
And I'm not even a huge hustlersfan.
It's just very easy to talkabout.

Dru McAnelly (05:45):
You don't mean I don't have a lot to talk about.
Cause

Stoy Hall (05:46):
it doesn't happen.
I, it just happened last season.
Football and basketball.
Yeah.
Okay.
All I'm just saying,

Cole Ingle (05:52):
Recency biased, but he's not wrong.
No, absolutely.
Unfortunately, it's two gamesThe Hawks had no business
losing.

Stoy Hall (05:57):
And

Dru McAnelly (05:58):
I will attest to that.
Yeah.
But

Stoy Hall (05:59):
yeah, so we'll get, we'll dive into that.
We'll,

Cole Ingle (06:01):
Don't let him fool you into thinking that he's a
Huskers man.
That's the first time he's eversaid anything positive about the
Huskers.
And it's not, it's

Stoy Hall (06:09):
not there.
It's just not all the time I'veknown him.
It's not there.
All right.
Let's get into the little nba,Jesus, nba.
We can get, I've never said NBAon the show, and now you say it.
And that's all I can freakingsay.
We're gonna start in, we're notstarting with the no, we're
gonna start with NFL draft.
You going straight in the draft?
Yeah.
Might as well.
Might as well finish with golf.
We don't have any golf recap.

Cole Ingle (06:30):
Tony Fi

Stoy Hall (06:30):
now won.
Yeah, but we didn't have anybeds.
No, I, oh, shut him out then.
Shut him out.
Go ahead.
I,

Cole Ingle (06:35):
I'm gonna shout him out real quick, obviously,
because he's our guy, right?
He's my guy's.
Absolutely.
And in golf pool.
I chose him as the outrightwinner this week.
Oh, you did?
So I, that was my first outrightwinner in two years.
And I hit him, he plays greatoutside of the United States, so
as soon as I saw, like he's beenplaying well, we've got Mexico
tournament, little less field.
Ran the table outright.

(06:56):
Winner boom.
Unfortunately, like nine otherguys picked him as well.
But hey, you still won.
Gotta start somewhere.
So I gotta start climbing.
Back up the leaderboard a littlebit on that.
So great win for him.
The whole family was there.
Awesome to see.
So I got the picture with him.
Wife, five kids.

Stoy Hall (07:11):
Best part was afterwards.

Cole Ingle (07:13):
So every day after he played, he went and played
the par three course with hisoldest son Trace, who's on the
junior pga.
But then the last day afterwinning, so after four days of
playing and then playing thepart three and then winning, he
went out with all five kids andhis wife, and they played

(07:34):
another round on the part three.
Pretty cool.
The dude is just, he's a machinewhen it comes to, golf, but then
just flips it immediately to, tothe family time.
But five

Stoy Hall (07:44):
kit.
Yeah.
5,

Cole Ingle (07:46):
5, 5.
And the oldest one I think is12, maybe 13.
I got two'em.
Good.
It's gotta be between two and 13right now.
He's got five.
Between

Dru McAnelly (07:54):
the three of us, we have six, correct?
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (07:57):
Yeah.
Yep.
That's enough.
Yeah, that's, if

Cole Ingle (08:00):
we, if we need as much money as him though, it'd
be a lot.
We could hire out some.
Yeah, you're We, but still, ifit would be nice if we could.
Afford and enjoy traveling withfive children.
Yes.
Yeah.
I heard on the broadcast thatwhen they traveled to Mexico, it
was 22 pieces of luggage.
And my guess is that was on aprivate jet or maybe the luggage

(08:21):
had a jet and then he had a jetwould be like,

Stoy Hall (08:25):
he had his bag in his clubs like that was it.
Oh.

Cole Ingle (08:27):
But yeah, that's good outta you, Tony.
Something that they've startedto do more is travel as a whole
family.
The documentary Full Swinghighlighted that.
Yeah.
For anyone that saw that onNetflix, he talked about that
being an important thing.
Once his wife's dad passed awaythey started doing that more.
Usually when he wins he's gotthe family there, so that's
always a cool experience.
And obviously he's just known asone of the great guys on tour.

(08:50):
So just continues to show that.
Yeah.
But yeah, NFL draft.
Do you wanna start with anoverall, feel sy synopsis or do
you want to dive right into whatthe hell the Falcons were doing
at eight?
Let's,

Stoy Hall (09:01):
no, we don't need to dive.
That's what we will have time totalk about that.
Could we,

Cole Ingle (09:04):
I don't know if Drew knew you were a Falcons fan or
not, but I just wanted him to beaware so he could prepare some
material to spat back at you.

Dru McAnelly (09:12):
The bitterness in his voice between Falcons and
Huskers, I can understand where.
He's feeling makes sense, right?
Feeling.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (09:19):
And I mean it's it's like it was 28 to three all over
again.
Yeah.

Dru McAnelly (09:24):
So I'm sure Doy just about threw up in his mouth
when he heard me say New Englandjust brought back, actually he
haunted, did haunted and dreadedreplay it cuz I did dreaded
memories.

Cole Ingle (09:34):
Hey, do you not know the security gun?

Stoy Hall (09:35):
I don't usually just pops up and lets me push a
button.
So overall feeling

Cole Ingle (09:40):
on the draft I thought it was a fun draft.
I thought there were a couple ofsurprises, a couple good
surprises, couple of headshakers.
Definitely some really goodtalent that dropped into the
second round.
And some teams just with somehead scratching decisions from a
personnel standpoint.

(10:01):
Whether it be first and secondor throughout the draft and a
couple of teams that I thinkjust absolutely.
Killed it in the draft andweren't necessarily in position
to do so and just made the rightdecisions when players dropped
to'em.
I guess I'll start.
I think that the Eagles, ooh,are the best team in the nfc.

(10:23):
Probably had a top three draft.
They had.
Two guys dropped to them.
I believe they were both, werethey both Georgia?
Yep.
Guys.
And the draft picks that theyhad received from, who did they
have draft picks from?
Was it from the Rams?

Dru McAnelly (10:43):
Is that right?
I think you're

Cole Ingle (10:44):
correct in that trade.
Yeah.
The, but they took fulladvantage.
A couple of guys just droppedand they solidified their
D-line.
They didn't have a lot of holesto fill anyway.
And at the time that theydrafted, they absolutely, in my
opinion, stole guys off theboard that are, were both
potential top 10 picks.

(11:05):
And they ended up with two of'emin one round being the team that
was the second best team in thenfl.
Yeah.
So that was crazy to me.
I.
I don't think that there wasnecessarily a ton of flash in a
lot, but the Texans did flash atthe beginning of the draft
trading up to get the third pickafter taking CJ Stroud's second,

(11:27):
which I've got my own feelingson Stroud, but I think they got
their guy and then they went andgot the next best player in the
draft as well.
So I was really impressed withhow aggressive they were and
thought they got some reallygood value early.
And then also just had a soliddraft overall.
So those were the kind of thetop two that popped for me.
There were some other reallysolid drafts in there.

(11:48):
The two worst for me, I thoughtthe Packers had a questionable
draft.
I don't know.
I'm interested to hear how youfelt about the Patriots draft.
Belichick's always a headscratcher to me.
When it comes to the draft.
It's hard to question them.
I just thought they needed somemore offensive help and didn't
go after it.
Packers did the same thing.
So that's

Stoy Hall (12:06):
kind of where do the Packers ever really.
I was at overall on that draft.

Cole Ingle (12:09):
Though, but I didn't love what the Falcons did
either.
I didn't think that you got helpearly.
Yeah.
What was interesting withquarterback,

Dru McAnelly (12:15):
what I found interesting with the Patriots
draft is we know that Bill cantake any defensive guy.
Free agent, undrafted, whateverit may be.
And he's gonna mold that guyinto a really good player within
the system.
But with the coaching changesthey've had, especially on the
offensive side of the ball.

(12:36):
Hell they tried to have adefensive coordinator call in
plays.
Yeah.
And we saw, that worked.
And exactly how well you'dexpect it to.
Exactly.
And sometimes I, and I love theguy to death, but sometimes his
stubborn, arrogant, arrogancecan maybe get in the way,
especially on the offensive sideof the ball.
So what was interesting to mewithin the draft was he can

(12:58):
develop talent, obviously on thedefensive side.
So let's go attack.
The offense side of the ball andthey just seemed to, to not go
that route.
And that's where we reallystruggled because last year we
had a defense that could havemade a two or three game run
within the playoffs.
Not good enough to get the SuperBowl or win it by any stretch,
but the defense was very good.
Maybe not true blue old schoolpatriots, but good.

(13:20):
But the offense just struggled.
Yeah.
Just mightily struggled for,from all aspects.
And that was what was reallysurprising to me with the
Patriots draft.

Cole Ingle (13:30):
Yeah, they just, I don't know.
I just didn't feel like theyaddressed helping out.
Yeah.
Mack Jones.
Yeah.
Or Bailey Zap, Zappy, whoever,whichever one they decide to go
with.
I think Mack Jones is the guythere, but I just don't they
didn't give him any protectionand they didn't give him any
weapons.
Nope.
So that, that was disappointing.
To me, if you're a Patriots fan,and then I just felt the same

(13:50):
way with the Packers.
Everybody thought that they weregonna spit in Aaron Rodgers face
and actually draft a skill guy.
And then they come out and drafttwo defensive guys right away.
I think they drafted two tightends and I don't know, I just
don't

Stoy Hall (14:04):
understand.
They just baffled the rightthing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They always seem to do the assbackwards thing, like it doesn't
make any sense to me.
But then they're never

Cole Ingle (14:11):
terrible, which is also surprising.
But I'm interested to see.
They did sign in Jordan Love toa one year extension worth 13
million, which good on him.
That's not terrible money forour green beta spend.
And I also think Jordan Loveneeded to get a little bit of
something.
So we'll see how that experimentworks out.

Stoy Hall (14:27):
It'll be an interesting one.
That division is gonna be I'vegot the lines early.
Ooh, early in, early where we'reat.
I like the lines second.
I second

Dru McAnelly (14:35):
that notion.
Because if you look at Minnesotalast year, A fabulous year and
typical in Minnesota fashion,they choke in the playoffs.
But if you go back and look,it's like cowboys.
Yeah.
If you go back and look at theirgames, they could have for four
or five, six of those closewins, they could have easily
lost.
Yeah.
So their record was a littleskewed.
Yep.
Vastly skewed.
That can quickly flip in amatter of a season.

(14:56):
Absolutely.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (14:57):
Your thoughts on

Stoy Hall (14:58):
the draft?
I thought it was a fun start tothe draft overall.
There really, there were somesplashes early on, but I thought
most teams, again, except forthe teams that I'm harping on
didn't really make the picks.
I thought they would or shouldactually, no, in my opinion, but
also I'm not a huge draft guy.
When it.
When it comes to it, becauseone, we've had good players and

(15:18):
then we don't utilize'em.
So there's one but two, youdon't know what you don't know
until they get on the field,right?
Yeah.
So let's caveat that.
But that being said, I thoughtit was overall just a, it was
like a meth draft, andspecifically for my falcons

Cole Ingle (15:31):
you took a running back number eight.
Let's just jump into

Stoy Hall (15:34):
that.
Oh, first of all, we're nottalking about him as an athlete.
Okay.
No.
The best running back, comingout of comp.
Absolutely.
No.
Nobody but

Cole Ingle (15:42):
disagrees that Bajan Eaton

Stoy Hall (15:44):
wasn't the best.
I don't understand eight forthis.
For multitude of reasons, one,running back's at high don't
make any sense.
Now we are a running team.
However, we had a rookie go forover a thousand.
We have Cordell Patterson, whichagain, yeah.
I like, so to have those two,then you throw him in.
What are we doing where we couldhave spent that somewhere else?

(16:06):
Yeah.
In my opinion o line is a bigdeal.
We have tight, we obviously havetight ends.
We don't, our receivers are, wehave one I just felt like we
should have put more into thatcore.
Now, am I upset that we got apotential back that.
Can be here and be here for thenext six, eight years and is our
dude.
No, but you don't put an eighton a line on back.

(16:27):
You just don't.
Now did you

Dru McAnelly (16:28):
mention O line?
Yeah.
Okay, so let's connect Patriotsand Falcons and not to bring
back horrible memories for youstory, but, or delicious
memories.

Stoy Hall (16:37):
That's fine.

Dru McAnelly (16:39):
Talk to Tommy.
Didn't have tons of weaponsaround him at times either.
People forget how unbelievablygood the Patriot's offensive
line was during that run.
And that gets so overshadowed inso many organizations.
And so you take a look at theFalcons at eight and you go with
what I call a dime a dozenposition in the nfl, and you

(17:00):
aren't gonna go addressoffensive line needs.
When you look at teams that havewon the Super Bowl the last five
to seven years, how good theiroffensive lines have been and
how many draft picks they'vetaken in the first round with
offensive line play.
Are, where's your research

Cole Ingle (17:15):
at right there?
You look why the Chiefs lost aSuper Bowl.
And why they won, why the Eagleswere able to get to a Super
Bowl.
Yeah.
And then why the chiefs won theSuper Bowl.
Yep.
It's all, you obviously you haveto have other pieces, but the
chiefs lost because Tampa Bayjust was living in the
backfield.
The year before they addressed.
What buddy?

Stoy Hall (17:36):
Can you get'em out?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.

Cole Ingle (17:40):
They they addressed the issue.
Yep.
And therefore, it's justsometimes I think everything I
like, there's too many guys inthe room.
Oh.
We see it on draft night, draftroom and there's 24 dudes in
there.
And it's at the end of the day,one, those not everyone's
agreeing.
And that's not a bad thing, butif you.
Why not four guys?

(18:00):
Yeah.
Why not six?
Yeah.
There's just I think at somepoint where you just lose a
voice of, Hey, what the hell dowe need?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm like, let's go fix that.

Stoy Hall (18:10):
I also don't understand, like you, they've
game planed this whole thingout.
They've had to have right.
Every almost live scenario.
It's their lively, they've beenthrough this.
There, there should be nosurpri, there's rare that a
trade surprises everybody thatall of a sudden the whole draft
is.
Oh, Lord, what do we do?
That is not, that doesn't happenand it didn't happen.
Let's go around.
So either they couldn't tradeback Yeah.

(18:33):
At all.
No one wanted to, which I washoping someone would.
Maybe that didn't occur.
And you go best playeravailable.
Okay.
That would be my only thoughtprocess there.
But we did go tackle fromSyracuse in the second round
Bergeron, which I actuallyreally do that pick.
Yeah.
I love our two through seven slike.
From a value perspective.

(18:53):
I love the shit out of it.
It's just one I would've likedmore

Cole Ingle (18:57):
picks.
I think the same thing withAlliance.
One's taking money and one's

Stoy Hall (19:00):
taking

Cole Ingle (19:00):
big money.
Yeah.
Yeah's, because Alliance did thesame thing, maybe even to a
worse level.
They had the 12 pick and theytook, in their opinion, it was
the best line or the bestrunning back.
But in a lot of people'sopinion, third or fourth best.
Yeah.
Correct.
Running back at pick 12.
12.
And then they also had, was it18?

(19:20):
Yeah.
Jack Kimball and one, he wenthigh, but at least he is a day
one starter, right?
And a 10 to 12 year Yeah.
Just a dude and can change

Stoy Hall (19:31):
your defense like that.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (19:32):
That's a leader, that's a day one starter.
Like I can if that's your guy,that's your guy, that's fine.
He's a Dan Campbell guy.
Like I could imagine.

Dru McAnelly (19:39):
He's a more, he's more than a linebacker, he is a
organizational, foundational,blueprint.

Stoy Hall (19:46):
Where's a great number too.
Yeah, fantastic number.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (19:48):
It's the best number in the game.
It's the best number in thegame.
You think

Dru McAnelly (19:51):
you'll, is that now?
Did I hear speculation on theDrake campus?
That's pending Maybe retirement.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (19:57):
Okay.
But don't tell nobody.

Dru McAnelly (19:58):
That's what I heard.
Tell nobody.
Brian Harden.
I'd heard that and it wasn'tbecause

Stoy Hall (20:01):
I stole all the jerseys.
It was not Brian, I've

Dru McAnelly (20:04):
heard Brian Hart, jinx Jersey.
Brian Harden is undernegotiations with retiring
number 30

Cole Ingle (20:10):
oneil.
Little late,

Stoy Hall (20:12):
but hey, yeah, we'll take it

Cole Ingle (20:13):
late than never.
No, but

Stoy Hall (20:16):
yeah, that's, but you're right.
Now that being said, the game ischanging to running backs.
We're running the ball more.
Yeah.
So are we see, are they early inthis new wave?
I just, we don't, we won't knowthat for a while,

Cole Ingle (20:28):
but I don't think it even matters if you're early in
the new wave.
Like you just can't reach for arunning back, even if he's
really good.
Look, look at Saquon.
Like how many games?

Dru McAnelly (20:39):
What's, how many games he missed?
What is the percentage of hisgames played?
Verse missed in the years.
Look at

Cole Ingle (20:44):
Zeke now.
Zeke hasn't, Zeke's not even ona team right now, right?
Yeah.
And he had his, yes, Pollardtook over, but he had his best
year last year.
He's had in three

Dru McAnelly (20:51):
years?
Yeah.
Why?
Because he didn't have as manyCarries.
He's not as beat up.
Correct.

Stoy Hall (20:55):
Which is why you don't need to, use an A and your
running game.

Cole Ingle (20:59):
Not the problem.
The Falcon's running game waslike the last thing that needed
addressed.
Yeah, exactly.
Of everything we could haveaddressed.
Six different things.
Yep.
And running the running back wasnot it.
Like your running back was athousand yard.
You had a thousand yard rush.
Yeah.
Has

Stoy Hall (21:12):
a rookie.
Yeah.
I'm

Dru McAnelly (21:12):
not saying this sarcastically cause I don't
know, but when was your lastwinning season?

Stoy Hall (21:19):
27, 18.
We went to the playoffs, launchto the Eagles.
Okay.

Cole Ingle (21:26):
Yeah.
Yeah.

Dru McAnelly (21:28):
So I'm gonna guess you have had offensive line
issues.

Stoy Hall (21:35):
It's ever last year actually surprising actually.
You've been bad on defense.
It's been defense beenatrocious.
Shit on.
But now we got Clays.
Campbell Hall boys do.
Dean Lion Lopez.
Your defense was better lastyear though, and the defense was
better last year.
Yeah,

Cole Ingle (21:47):
no, defense was not the issue last year.
No.
We had a quarterback issue, butnow

Stoy Hall (21:51):
you got a running back.
But hey, we have three roundbacks that

Cole Ingle (21:55):
three headed running back.
You're this Patriots

Stoy Hall (21:58):
light.
Yeah.
We'll see.
We'll see what happens.
Oh, except the Patriots don'tspend money on running.

Dru McAnelly (22:03):
They don't spend money.
No.
General, but they get players.

Cole Ingle (22:06):
Do we have the Twitter video of Deuce Vaughn
getting drafted?
If

Stoy Hall (22:12):
you put it in our shitty chat.

Cole Ingle (22:14):
I just didn't know if we had

Stoy Hall (22:15):
access.
Oh, we have access.

Cole Ingle (22:18):
I did.
I might have put it in theretwice actually.
Even, oh.
You gotta save the, all thealligator video.
That's phenomenal.
All right, so this is Hey, it'sgoing good.
This is Stoy alluded to this.
Go ahead, talk to her.
So this is Dee Vaughn's dadcalling to tell his son that the
Cowboys have drafted him andjust the emotions surrounding

(22:39):
it.
Deuce Vaughn, which I love thepickup.
That guy's just a workhorse atKansas State.
A scat back.
Yeah.
Type.
Who'd you compare him to?
Sprolls.
Sprolls.
Sprolls.
Okay.
Yeah, same.
He's a little bit bigger, notquite as shifty.
Shifty, yeah.
But same type and just a grinderguy that's gonna make the squad
gonna be either the number twoor three.

(22:59):
And the cowboys use runningbacks in different ways.
So yeah, I just think a greatpick, especially late in the
draft.
And dad's on staff.
So you can see here.

Stoy Hall (23:07):
Let's let first run for next minute and half.
Hey buddy,

Cole Ingle (23:11):
how's it going?
Hey, it's going good.
This is Dad.
My phone wasn't working.
Look at here, man.
You wanna come to work with menext week?
I wouldn't mind that I gotsomebody wanna speak to you.
I got somebody wanna speak toyou.
I don't know when I've beenspeaking for everybody that's
really in the heart of theDallas Cowboys is tan

Dru McAnelly (23:34):
here.
With a tear in our eye.
We're so

Cole Ingle (23:37):
happy to have you on the Dallas Cowboys.
I can't thank you enough.
What I

Dru McAnelly (23:42):
really want to say, you

Cole Ingle (23:44):
earned every ounce of me being able to make this
call.
I'm so excited.
There's just something magicalabout this moment that may be
bigger than we even realize

Dru McAnelly (23:54):
here talking to you on the phone.
You is

Cole Ingle (23:57):
now a Dallas cowboy.
Your daddy just hand the card inright here.
Yes sir.
It's got him on it.
Congratulations.

Dru McAnelly (24:06):
Hey dude.
Mike McCarthy.
Congrat

Cole Ingle (24:08):
hearing

Stoy Hall (24:08):
All right.
No one wants to listen to MikeMcCarthy.
No.
At all ever.

Cole Ingle (24:12):
So I'll start cuz.
Jerry Jones the background.
I got the.

Dru McAnelly (24:16):
I got chills.
Is that what's

Cole Ingle (24:18):
his name?
It's, no, that's his son.
It's it's Steven Jones's son.
Yeah.
So it's that would be JerryJones's grandkid.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
But Jerry Jones is obviouslyvery polar polarizing figure.
A guy that I have wishedmultiple times throughout my
cowboy fandom was no longer theowner of the Cowboys, or at
least relinquished some of theYeah.
Player responsibility, GMresponsibility.

(24:40):
That's one of the mostrespectable moments that I've
experienced of Jerry Jones.
Yeah.
In my, oh shoot.
Now 29 years of cowboy fandom,30 years of cowboy fandom,
probably.
Awesome moment.
Awesome moment for his dad,obviously.
And then, the guy's just gonnaput in work and do everything he

(25:02):
can.
For the organization.
So it was just a really cool tosee one of the awesome draft
moments this year.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (25:09):
Hands down.
Hands down.
The other one would've been wedidn't have it in there, but
with the Steelers going withPorter Junior.
Oh, yep.
Very similar.
Yep.
Yep.
Obviously he's not on the staff,but a very similar feel.
And that those two things justgot you.
Chills also made me feel old.
Okay.
And I'm younger and both of you,but that made me, both of those
made me feel old.
Yeah.
Just gonna say that.

(25:29):
When we watched their dads

Cole Ingle (25:30):
Yes.
In their prime.
And their prime.
And that's happening more andmore these days.
It sure is in sports.
It sure is.
Where dads.
Gone and here comes sun.
Baseball's been that way for acouple years now with more than
a handful of guys.
Yep.
It's great.
It's great to see.
Great to see.
This shows you a little bitabout pedigree as well.
Yeah.
Pedigree matters.
Yeah, absolutely.

(25:51):
Absolutely.
But yeah, there were coolmoments of the draft.
Had you seen that video beforethen?
I

Dru McAnelly (25:57):
had not.
I gotcha.
And that was really touching.
Don't the porters have a specialneeds child?
Did I see a video of that?
Or they could have donated somemoney.
Could be to us.
I it was, yeah, it was I caughtthe tail end of it on.
Okay.
It was really cool, but I don'tknow.
Yeah.
The details.
Gotcha.
That might be something we lookinto.
Google.

Cole Ingle (26:17):
Yeah.
Google machine.
No, very good.
That how is supper Nick?
Good.
Crab cakes.
You got

Stoy Hall (26:24):
your brother fed.
Yeah.
Oh,

Cole Ingle (26:28):
And he brought one hiccup.
Yep.
One hiccup.
Who hiccups once?
That's impressive.
I don't know.
I don't know.
All right.
No.
So that's NFL draft.
Any final thoughts?
Did we cover everything wewanted to cover with it?

Stoy Hall (26:39):
Yeah.
I didn't mean it drafts draftman.
Yeah.
Obviously you talk about yourteams and things that happened,
but this one, there wasn't.
Yeah,

Cole Ingle (26:48):
let's talk I want to talk quarterbacks a little bit
more with within overall.
Okay.
So let's quickly talk wherequarterbacks went, yeah.
In the draft.
Just because obviously that'swhat dominates the league.
So you had quarterbacks goingone and two.
Do you think Bryce Young was thebest quarterback in the draft?

(27:10):
No.
If you had the number one pick,who would you have drafted?
Oh, quarterback.
You had to draft a quarterback.
Let's put it, let's make it alittle bit

Dru McAnelly (27:20):
easier.
Give me the top five that went,or top three that went, that
would be

Cole Ingle (27:24):
young Stroud and then Richardson.
And then you had Leviis andHooker both dropped.
Those were the top five taken.

Stoy Hall (27:33):
If you have to.
If you have to, you gotta goyoung.
Only for the simple fact oftheir offense translates better.
Way better.
In the history of Alabama,quarterbacks is a lot better
than the history of Ohio Statequarterbacks.
Okay.
I don't like it per se.
But if you're gonna have, if youhave to.

(27:54):
If

Cole Ingle (27:54):
you had the number one overall pick as the
Panthers, would you have taken a

Stoy Hall (27:58):
quarterback period?
Seeming how they traded beforeto get the number one pick to do
it.
They already played their cards.
If they were already the numberone, I would've traded down.
Because you could've went downto three, four.
Yeah, no, I don't.
You would've lost.
Lost out on either Strout orYoung.
But you could, one of them atthree or four, you're not.
And then you pick up an extrapick like that would've been my

(28:18):
play.
But they already traded to gethim so they knew what they were
wanting.

Cole Ingle (28:23):
What are your thoughts on, and

Stoy Hall (28:25):
I'm okay with that

Cole Ingle (28:25):
before I get Drew's thoughts, what are your thoughts
on success of top four, top fivequarterbacks drafted?
Is there any one of them do you,that you think has a five plus
years starting future?
Ooh, five

Stoy Hall (28:42):
plus years starting
future.

Cole Ingle (28:45):
So they're gonna make it to whatever their
second, their big deal.
Any of those guys.

Stoy Hall (28:50):
Oh, that's

Cole Ingle (28:50):
tough.
I have my opinion on thequarterbacks of this draft, and
it's not good.

Stoy Hall (28:56):
Oh, that's a really tough fi.
I don't know if I have that.
I don't, I can't say they, theywill.
I think the person who will belike, of the five that'll be
around.
They're all gonna be around.
But that will, has the, Ibelieve, the best upside to be
around just playing.
It's probably Richardson.
Okay.

(29:16):
Because he can do the, they canuse him different ways.
All right.
Otherwise I didn't will we had awhole Yeah.
Whole segment about will leaveit Levi's.
Yeah.
And him seeing him fall was nota shock by any means to me.
Hooker's injury, that would bewhere you're at with that one.
I'm not a Stroud guy.
And I think Young's too small.
Okay.

(29:37):
I just

Cole Ingle (29:37):
don't think with it, I don't injuries for him.
You think that'll be thedownfall

Stoy Hall (29:39):
for him?
Yeah.
And injuries in the shortquarterback syndrome that we see
with Mayfield we've seen withMurray.
Murray, like he's just small.

Dru McAnelly (29:48):
Two is getting banged up.
Yep.

Stoy Hall (29:50):
Yeah.
Like he's just small.
Yep.
And like short, he is short.

Cole Ingle (29:54):
So how he weighs

Stoy Hall (29:55):
180 pounds too.
So I don't see that drew

Cole Ingle (29:58):
thoughts overall.

Dru McAnelly (30:01):
I like Will

Stoy Hall (30:02):
Levi, how he's a man.

Cole Ingle (30:06):
He, he had put his mayonnaise in his

Stoy Hall (30:08):
coffee.

Dru McAnelly (30:10):
I like him.
I like his game.
I like his demeanor.
I love his arrogance.
He

Cole Ingle (30:14):
also likes that he got drafted by a former Patriots

Stoy Hall (30:17):
coach.
Yeah.
Oh.
I like I, there it is.
I.
Do you

Cole Ingle (30:21):
think he starts this year?

Dru McAnelly (30:24):
Yeah, I do.
Okay.
I think the guy, like right awayor the mid-season?
Mid-season, I think the bestthing that happened to that dude
was fallen and now the dude'sgot a chip on his

Stoy Hall (30:34):
shoulder.
He does remind me of our backupquarterback.
Tyler Henneke though.
He's got that or I like lay forhim.
Okay.
I just side note,

Cole Ingle (30:42):
do you like him better than any of the other
quarterbacks on the draft?

Dru McAnelly (30:46):
I don't like any of the quarterbacks in the

Cole Ingle (30:47):
draft.
So we're all kind of

Stoy Hall (30:49):
think

Dru McAnelly (30:49):
a horrible quarterback draft.

Stoy Hall (30:51):
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (30:51):
I think it was.
I don't know if I feel that it'sa horrible draft or if, I just
think that solid quarterbackswere extremely overhyped.

Stoy Hall (30:59):
Overhyped.
Wait on we went.
We went, okay, so let's back upto last season.
We were saying that draft classfrom a quarterback PO position,
everyone was playing like, ah,do you pick one?
Because you've got this strongclass now.
We, and we went with Ritter,which I'm actually happy with
now.
I look at these quarterbacks.
You then get to this now, andnow you're like, yeah, it's not

(31:20):
as strong story.
I'm gonna, I'm

Dru McAnelly (31:22):
gonna, I'm gonna piggyback to something story
said though, early in thepodcast was dealing with the
draft is we could sit here forhours, upon hours and talk,
right?
Yeah.
You don't know until we getthese guys on the field, right?
You don't know how they're gonnareact to different situations.
We don't know how they're gonnahandle the media, the pressure,
the hype.
Oh, does the system truly fittheir skillset?

(31:43):
Especially do they have injuriesaround'em?
What's the O Line play?
There are so many variables thatgo into best,

Cole Ingle (31:48):
but who do you think got put into the best situation
then I think will ever you like,I mean you like where him
dropping and quarterbacksdropping like that?
Definitely.
Can, there's been some

Dru McAnelly (31:58):
success stories of that him

Stoy Hall (31:59):
and Absolutely.
How about, yeah.
I would say him and Hooker havethe better situations.
Yeah.
Him and Hooker was

Cole Ingle (32:04):
my favorite quarterback going into this
draft.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't, I didn't care about theinjury, anything like that.
I think that dude has moxie.
Yep.
And now dropping to the secondround, I think he went to a good
place where he's not forced toplay right away.
Yep.

Dru McAnelly (32:19):
And how'd that work for Aaron Rodgers?

Cole Ingle (32:21):
I just think that I just, all the great, basically,
yeah, I love that guy.
Tommy didn't play right awaybecause I wasn't gonna be
surprised if somebody jumped intop 15 to grab him and they
didn't because of the injury.
And that's, that is what it is.
But I don't think AnthonyRichardson is an NFL
quarterback.
I you and I are gonna disagree.
I understand what you're saying.

(32:41):
As far as him being multiple, Idon't think that he can ever.
Unless he can overcome accuracyissues, aah.
Josh Allen and somewhat LamarJackson.
But Lamar Jackson's accuracyissues are overblown.
He just has accuracy issues inbig games.
Not necessarily overall.
Josh Allen has battled them fromcollege, got way better.

(33:05):
Has regressed this last season.
Here's

Dru McAnelly (33:06):
a guy I'm thinking of right now.
Yeah.
Of those first two or threequarterbacks drafted, do you
think their skillset and theirphysicality is better than James
Winston?

Cole Ingle (33:16):
I just didn't like Winston from a maturity
standpoint.
Okay.
Same thing, same reason way backwhen.
I didn't like JaMarcus Russell.
Oh yeah.
Like you go back in like the,Johnny Menzel, baker Mayfield
and Baker Mayfield.
Like actually, yeah, like a, hewasn't terrible, but still like
the mindset baker.
Yeah.
The mindset has not set them upfor long-term success.

(33:39):
Yeah.
And that's what I'm trying tolook at is like Bryce Young is
in the right mindset with aPanthers team who will kick
scratch, claw for every victory.
They remind me of the lions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like he's gonna go into asituation where we don't care if
our backs are against the wall.
We traded everyone that was goodon our team away last year And

(34:01):
still won.
And still won.
Yeah.
Still find a way to compete.
Yeah.
And so that's why I don't mindthat situation.
The Texans at two I think are amess, and I don't like a mess
like shroud being put into thatsituation.
I think Mills has done a.
Like I don't think, I think he'sa, he's a lifetime backup,
unfortunately for him because ofthe situation.
I

Dru McAnelly (34:19):
honestly think CJ Stroud's the worst quarterback
in the draft.
Personally.
That's my personal

Stoy Hall (34:23):
opinion.
I felt the same way with Mil.
Like why you have mills.
I mills, this is a solid,average quarterback, right?
So you can build everything elseup and they don't have anything,
many

Dru McAnelly (34:32):
people disagree with that comment.
That's just my personal opinion.

Stoy Hall (34:34):
People love how you play Anything to do with the big
tent.
No.
Okay.
No, because,

Dru McAnelly (34:38):
but if you watch being a diehard haw guy, I don't
feel hate towards Ohio Statebecause they're an elite.
But if you watch,

Stoy Hall (34:43):
but he had a good, he had a good game in the big
lights against Georgia.
That's why that's the problembecause he was not good all
season, but you watched himagainst Indiana.
Indiana.
Or Iowa.

Dru McAnelly (34:53):
Iowa was,

Cole Ingle (34:54):
he had a horrible game at time.
He was so pedestrian.

Stoy Hall (34:56):
Yeah, he was like that most of the season.
And just becau, Gring, his

Dru McAnelly (34:59):
red, his red zone production this year

Cole Ingle (35:01):
was not good.
Not good.
And you have to know who theseguys are playing with.
Bryce Young is playing with aset of the best linemen and the
best receivers at the level offootball he played and now is
going into the nfl.
CJ Stroud, same thing.
Yep.
He might be playing with thethree best Receivers.
Receivers in the entire draft,maybe.

(35:22):
And Mar Marvin Harrison didn'teven get drafted because he
wasn't eligible.
The, his best receiver is stillmaybe the

Dru McAnelly (35:26):
top three receivers on one team in the
last 15, 20 years have called itfootball.

Cole Ingle (35:30):
That's comparable to the LSU trio that was there with
bur, but I was stacked, soabsolutely you have to perform,
but there were too many times ingames that are off the radar or
whatever, that he just didn't,he just didn't really show up.
And the talent overcame.
The talent of his team overcamehim playing bad.

Dru McAnelly (35:51):
And guess what, in the league there's no game off
the radar, correct?
No, there's no game.
Correct.
You have 16 games, they're allon the radar.
So

Cole Ingle (35:59):
17 will 17.
My bad.
Yes.
I think we're all in agreementon that then.
So that's good conversation.
We'll see where guys end up andyeah.
And what happens.
But let's talk quarterbacksignings because we've got a lot
of guys who signed bigcontracts.
We got Aaron Rodgers, whofinally got signed in.
New York and actually showed upto mini camp for the first time

(36:21):
in my, a whole bunch of Packersfans throwing up and throwing
stuff at their TVs as they watchhim take a snap in May for the
first time in what?
10 years

Stoy Hall (36:30):
at least a decade has to be.

Cole Ingle (36:31):
And then you have Lamar Jackson finally got paid.
Jalen Hertz got paid.
And, you've got, so guyssettling in.
You got Jordan Love, who got alittle bit of an extension with
Green Bay Baker, went to TampaBay.
Yep.
So just

Dru McAnelly (36:44):
that one's gonna be interesting.

Stoy Hall (36:45):
That one.
See so you don't know this, but,so Baker Mayfield married Emily
Wilkinson was her name then, butI grew her family partially
raised me.
Okay.
So I'm very I'm very close.
So I have a thing, a little bitof thing I want Baker to do.
No, except for now.
And I will not apologize aboutthat because he's on the box.
Yeah.

(37:05):
But I do like the situation he'sput into for the box.
I'm actually a Baker guy.
I like Baker.

Dru McAnelly (37:11):
I

Stoy Hall (37:11):
don't mind

Cole Ingle (37:12):
Baker at all.
He likes Baker and Will Loveis.
Sweet.
That's an, that's all.
If

Dru McAnelly (37:15):
you can tell.
I like guys that have a littlechip on their shoulder and white

Cole Ingle (37:19):
guys with a little

Stoy Hall (37:19):
moxie.
Little moxie.
Got it.
Yeah.
Got it.
But yeah, no, there, there'ssome good signings.
I, the

Cole Ingle (37:26):
Rogers in New York.
Thoughts two sentences.
The

Dru McAnelly (37:32):
media.

Stoy Hall (37:33):
No clue.

Cole Ingle (37:34):
No clue.
Two words.
That's two words

Stoy Hall (37:36):
off.
Take it.
It's the Jets.
Yeah.
I know they're getting better.
I know they played well, butthere is something about
guaranteed

Cole Ingle (37:45):
playoffs.
No.
Yes.
I say yes.

Stoy Hall (37:47):
Yes.
I will put a shitty shot on it.
Yes.
Yes.
How do you guys guarantee it'sgonna be one to

Cole Ingle (37:52):
like, how do it, like I'm guaranteeing that the
Jets make the playoffs.
I,

Stoy Hall (37:56):
I can't, I

Cole Ingle (37:56):
can't do that.
If they were in, if Rogers istheir quarterback, the Jets make
the playoffs.

Dru McAnelly (38:00):
Remind me, was there defense any good last
year?
Yes.
Yes.

Stoy Hall (38:03):
They were young.
They were a playoff team lastyear.
If they had a quarterback ifMike White, actually Mike White
didn't get

Cole Ingle (38:08):
hurt there.
Playoff team.
It didn't even

Dru McAnelly (38:11):
Smith Crabcakes in here.
Yeah.
You know what New York's,they're due.
Yeah.

Stoy Hall (38:16):
They're due.
They are due.
I just,

Cole Ingle (38:19):
it's a tough division though.
You can speak to that.
Yeah.
With Miami being better are thedolphins gonna get significantly
worse?
No.
Buffalo's, there's buffalo.
And the Patriots are gonna becompetitive.
Yeah.
Whether we like it or not.
Like they might suck.
Some of they love it.
But it's tough division.
It is

Dru McAnelly (38:36):
arguably maybe the most top to bottom, most
balanced outside of n

Cole Ingle (38:41):
Ffc East, obviously

Stoy Hall (38:42):
from last year.
Yeah.
I, it's just a, it's a thing forme with Roger Rogers hasn't
played well.
Since what, two years ago?
Yeah.
I'm years ago.
He's going to the afc so it'snot just the division.
Yeah.
You've got the rest of the afc.
You gotta deal with some issues.
Yeah.
That, and then he's got themedia that's gonna be even more
so than Green Bay.
And I just, I think Rogers is onthe decline that he's just not

(39:04):
that dude.
Just like Tommy the last coupleyears, just there was something
that you can see in them that isnot that sparkle.

Dru McAnelly (39:11):
I don't think Aaron takes care of his body the
way Tom does.
Oh, why he

Stoy Hall (39:14):
does.
Jimmy, do you think?

Cole Ingle (39:18):
I don't know.
I think he has a, I think thisis a, gonna be a surprising
year.
I'm not ready to count.
Let's go

Dru McAnelly (39:23):
back to Brett.
Yeah.
Brett goes to Minnesota.
Played unbelievable.
Brett goes to jets.
Went to the Jets.
Jets and played really well.
Took him to the afc.
Talk about a guy.
Yeah he obviously went to rehaband, but another guy that didn't
take gr his body was extreme.
Way more beat up at that agethan Aaron's was.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (39:41):
And they got running backs, they got receivers, they
got a defense like.
I think

Stoy Hall (39:45):
it sets up,

Dru McAnelly (39:46):
I think Brett Far and Aaron Rodgers are, it's a
coincidence, a little bit.
No, no doubt.
It,

Stoy Hall (39:52):
it's

Cole Ingle (39:52):
Lamar, he's coming back off injury, just gets paid.

Stoy Hall (39:55):
Man, boy he swindled them too.
Got receivers he wanted,

Cole Ingle (39:58):
so you got Deshaun Watson playing a full year in
Cleveland.
You've got the Steelers who gotsignificantly better in the
draft and get a year older.
And they were a very young team.
They got Rudolph older forpicket, sorry, they've got their
quarterback.
And then who's the last team inthat division?
Bengals, bees who are, who havejust proven who are the last

(40:20):
couple years that are, they'regonna be right there.
They're gonna be there.
Lamar worth, first of all, worththe money.
And second of all, can theyfinish top two in that division?
I don't

Stoy Hall (40:30):
know.
That division is wide open.
Yep.
And stacked.
I personally cannot pay arunning quarterback that much
money.
I cannot do it because they canget hurt.
No.
Huh.
Doing anything.
And he hasn't proven to be ableto throw the ball like he can.
But they don't dedicate it tojust doing that.
They still use him to run andthat's that's when their

Cole Ingle (40:50):
offense is the most effective.
It

Stoy Hall (40:51):
really is.
But the problem is, that's thehistory.
That's not, longevity's notthere for that.
No, I agree.
There's not one quarterback, therunning quarterback that has
survived.
No.

Cole Ingle (41:00):
No.
And then Jaylen

Stoy Hall (41:04):
do you are, you have to pay him.
No, you can't.
You pay him now in what, threeor four years?
He's gonna be middle tiered froma pay perspective and you got
him locked up.

Dru McAnelly (41:15):
His body's a little more apt to handle it,
but yet every time you run,you're putting yourself at risk
for injury.
But Right.
He doesn't, when a dude squats600 pounds, he doesn't run that
often.
No.
He

Cole Ingle (41:25):
smarter about taking and choosing, but yeah.
Not to

Stoy Hall (41:28):
mention they could just quarterback sneak for half
the game and win.
Honestly

Dru McAnelly (41:30):
and not get touched.
Yeah.
And the amount of times they cango word on fourth down, the
percentage of, have they

Stoy Hall (41:37):
decided that Scrum is illegal yet?
No, they, I'm waiting on that.

Cole Ingle (41:39):
That went through the nfl.
Rules this year, they didn't,did not even get brought up as a
rule chain.
Wow.
Because that was, do you knowthe, we do

Dru McAnelly (41:48):
you know what the weapon that is for their weapon
offense.
It's

Cole Ingle (41:50):
unstoppable.
Okay.
Tell me

Stoy Hall (41:51):
why.
And now more teams will do itthis year.
Can have to, you have to copycatthat, right?
Yeah.
If you can't

Cole Ingle (41:57):
copycat league.
You think the chiefs are gonnaput Mahomes in there after
what's happening?
No, because he got hurt.

Stoy Hall (42:01):
He got hurt in sneak anyway.
But

Cole Ingle (42:03):
that's what I'm saying.
Every team is looking at theirbut you can't tell me like you
have the safest way to do it.

Stoy Hall (42:09):
Also what, like the way that when Mahomes got hurt
on their sneak, they didn'twedge like that?
No.
If you wedge it like that, thequarterback's not gonna touch.
You have

Cole Ingle (42:16):
to teach it.
And I think there's just teamslike, it's just professional
sports and sports in general.
Teams are hardheaded.
They don't want to make thechange.
That's super obvious sometimes.
And it's yes, you can teach thatfor three yards every time, but
if you're not willing to changethat, then no teams won't do it.

Stoy Hall (42:34):
And I'm trying, I should, I'm still defensively
trying to figure out how youreally stop that.
You have to submarine your otherguys.
You have to slant everyone else.
You have to make yourself sovulnerable and backers have to
fly over the top.
It's

Dru McAnelly (42:46):
vulnerable, but you'd have to change personnel
groups.
And now when you changepersonnel groups, then you run
play action or jump past oranything like that outside.
That's what Like you're justit's it's.
We talk about rich reward withoffense, now you're flipping the
script and it's risk rewarddefense.
And when did we ever think wewould say

Stoy Hall (43:01):
that?
I think the only thing you canreally do is go bear tight.
Have your backers buddy ride.
There's no one behind yourD-line.
Like you have to attack it fromthere and then pinch on the
sides, right?
And hope.
Hope he doesn't break it andhope your safety back there by
himself.
Doesn't anyone left like that?
What else could you do?
That's not

Cole Ingle (43:18):
something if you do on defense though, is hope.
What, how

Stoy Hall (43:21):
do you stop that?
No one has to, but

Cole Ingle (43:23):
we're sitting in the, if we're sitting in the
film room though, yeah.
We're not hoping, we're justgonna, we're coming up with
strategic.
No, you're gonna, you're going,

Stoy Hall (43:29):
you're gonna say, okay, we're gonna pinch, we're
gonna get low, we're gonna tryour ass off.
But no one's proven that.
Yeah.
So stop it, dad.
What was the

Dru McAnelly (43:37):
yardage when they ran out?
Play?
Was it two or

Stoy Hall (43:39):
three?
It's, yeah, they can run it fromtwo or three.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (43:42):
They can, I don't think they don't.
Yeah.
There was actually, a coupletimes, like late in the regular
season against the Cowboys whenthey lost that game.
That, I don't know why theyweren't sneaking.
They didn't, that gameultimately didn't matter.
They also didn't, they

Stoy Hall (43:54):
didn't, most

Dru McAnelly (43:54):
quarterbacks don't squat 600 either.
Correct.
His leg drives the way

Cole Ingle (43:57):
that, yeah.
The way that he runs that is, issecond to none.
We

Stoy Hall (44:02):
talked about it last year, like surprisingly, they
didn't run it as often as theycould have.
Should have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You could call that on almostevery third and two.
Third, you're getting close.
Hell

Dru McAnelly (44:11):
you call it on first down, you'd probably get
five C there.
You cross back, you might get

Stoy Hall (44:14):
20 drunk.
Not wrong.
All right, so quarterback talk.
Who else?

Cole Ingle (44:19):
That's, those are the three that I had written
down.
Anybody else that you guyswanted to talk about?
Do you think Deshaun Watsontakes a step in the right
direction this year, or is hejust a lost cause?

Dru McAnelly (44:30):
Where's the, is everything behind him?
As far as legality stuff, that'sgonna win.
It, you can say it's still outthere.
You can say how mentally strongyou are, but that's gonna sit
there.
Yeah.
I

Cole Ingle (44:41):
mean, he's actually gonna play football though, with
the team for a full a year.
A full off season.
Yeah.
A full, almost a full year fromthe time that you Correct.
Deshawn

Dru McAnelly (44:49):
Watson.
I like, I love his game.
Yeah.
I really do.
See, I'd never liked his game.

Cole Ingle (44:54):
You didn't see I loved him at Clemson and I know
you loved him at Clemson cuzZane's

Dru McAnelly (44:58):
Zane is a big, my son's a big Clemson family.
He's a diehard Hawkeye.
Let's get it straight.
No, I get it.
Clemson's number two.
So I've watched a lot of Clemsonfootball lately.
I've always

Cole Ingle (45:06):
been a fan, on the field.
Tough,

Dru McAnelly (45:08):
tough, gritty leader.
Yeah.

Cole Ingle (45:10):
Yeah, I just don't know.
Yeah, if you can recover fromthat or not.
You I'm not getting into, I'mnot getting into the Dak
conversation tonight, so we cansave that for closer to the
season because I just, we justdon't need that.
Prove that.
I don't need that in my life.

Stoy Hall (45:24):
I thought, I'm pretty sure we can out vote you on
that.

Dru McAnelly (45:25):
You guys story, I thought that was in your
original email of the scripttonight.
So I, I don't know where thatgot vetoed.
Let's talk about Dak.
Obviously Cole had similar

Cole Ingle (45:33):
on the show.
I would loved if we would'vedrafted Hinton Hooker, let's put
it that way.

Stoy Hall (45:36):
Let's talk about Dak.
What's there to talk about?
No,

Cole Ingle (45:38):
daks Dak is Dak Kirk.
Kirk is Kirk.
And Dak is Dak.
Oh Lord.

Dru McAnelly (45:43):
They define love hate relationships, don't

Cole Ingle (45:46):
they?
Should we should we take a quickBreak and maybe cool down about
10 degrees and then come backand talk golf.
We absolutely can.
All right.