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Stoy Hall (00:00):
Do we, did we watch
this?
Oh, this has gotta be the startof it.
Yep.
Right here.
we'll get to we're, gonna speakabout Tua a little more, but
the, how we gotta talk about thePro Bowl which I'm glad they're
(00:21):
going back to more skills stuffand whatever they, I don't know
why they hadn't got rid of that.
I remember growing up and justwatching the skills challenge,
like that was fun.
That's the fun part of the,that's the fun part.
The games they.
But speaking of the Pro Bowl tolet all players in fan voting
the quarterback was left off thePro Bowl roster.
So how do you feel about that?
(00:45):
Just that quote, but also whoshould be playing in the Pro
Bowl and how should it be votedon?
Cole Ingle (00:52):
How, many
quarterbacks meet the Pro Bowl
three.
Stoy Hall (00:55):
I th for each side, I
think it's two.
Let me, lemme look.
I'm, sure he's an alternative,by the way.
I didn't.
Cole Ingle (01:02):
Google.
Check that.
I Here's the thing.
Do you think Tua should be a probowler over Mahomes?
Josh Allen or Justin Herbert?
The fans did.
Yeah.
Uhhuh obviously, but I used tohave a hard time like Yeah.
Mahomes and Allen.
(01:22):
Stats are probably down a littlebit.
It's three in Burrow.
Interceptions are up a littlebit.
And Joe Burrow.
Yeah, there's
Stoy Hall (01:28):
three three.
Cole Ingle (01:30):
No here's the thing
though, with the Pole bowl, the
Pro Bowl from the other side ofthings is when a guy like Tua
has a year like he's had,because the Pro Bowl being what
it is no, he won't be all pro orall Madden or whatever, but.
He probably deserves a Pro Bowlspot in a year like this over
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let's say Josh Allen.
Because when you look at, he'sdone something because of what
he's done for his team.
But don't know how you make the,an argument.
Is he your
Stoy Hall (02:09):
first
Cole Ingle (02:09):
alternate to I if
he's fit, I,
Stoy Hall (02:12):
he's not to be.
we'll get to his injury
Cole Ingle (02:15):
stuff.
But know, you look at Herbert'snumbers and what he, and he just
got his team into the playoffsfor the first time.
Let's be real
Stoy Hall (02:22):
Mahomes Allen a
burro.
They're gonna be in the SuperBowl.
Yeah.
So there will be an alternate.
One of them will probably justnot want to go because well,
they'll be in, actually it'sskills now, so it's Right.
A little different.
So Yeah.
But whoever is for it is thealternate's going right.
And they'll get there a littlepro bowl.
But I, just thought it wasinteresting.
Players fan.
(02:43):
I, don't think fan voting is rel
Cole Ingle (02:44):
relevant.
Who then, is that the three?
Yeah.
Mahomes, Allen.
Allen Burrow.
So Herbert didn't make it.
And I just don't,
Stoy Hall (02:52):
do you agree with
those three?
Yeah.
I
Cole Ingle (02:54):
mean, you can't, I
can't argue however you wanna
disagree.
I'm just asking.
Take any of those guys off theirteam and plug'em into Miami.
I'll take my chances.
Yeah.
And plug Herbert into Miami.
I'll take my chances.
Don't take my chances.
Yeah.
I feel like that's just SanDiego East.
Yeah.
I don't think if you plug them
Stoy Hall (03:16):
I agree.
So I agree.
Yeah.
Gronk,
Cole Ingle (03:20):
tweeting.
I'm bored.
Oh.
Groks board wants to wear number69 and get announced as eligible
every play.
Making the refs say his number.
Try to go on a, run with therain.
Just Gronk being Gronk.
Yeah.
But yeah, he gets he'll.
He'll be fun.
He'll sit there.
I feel like we'll heal fromGronk every.
that Brady's still playingaround playoff time.
Yeah, absolutely.
(03:41):
Absolutely.
Just for
Stoy Hall (03:42):
funsies.
Donald's hurt a little bit.
Is this the end of Aaron Donald?
Does he retire?
There's talks that he wanted toretire last year, came back.
There's a lot of the rams aretired and old.
Shutting him down and the restof the season doesn't bother me
(04:02):
because they're not in anythingbut.
Cole Ingle (04:05):
Once they shut'em
down, they had their best game
of the year, hung 51, and theirdefense
Stoy Hall (04:09):
looked great.
Stop.
Now
Cole Ingle (04:12):
let's back up.
They played the Broncos Getoutta here.
Oh, we're done with thatconversation.
Oh, the Russell, the
Stoy Hall (04:18):
Russells next.
I found that interesting.
Cole Ingle (04:20):
Defense looked
great.
God, get outta here.
That team couldn't score 14points against,
Stoy Hall (04:25):
I don't have the
video on this Falcons defense,
but this is one that, and thisis just for my Falcons fans out
there, by the way.
And you probably didn't see it.
And I tried to find a clip, butfor some reason, scrub it wasn't
scrubbed.
I just didn't dig that hard.
Ridder's rolling out okay.
And he's going to throw the ballaway and he throws it, but gets
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hit.
So the ball comes out like aweird duck goes basically 90
degrees dense, doesn't get pastthe line of scrimmage.
They, called roughing passer.
Raving the passer sorry.
Intentional grounding.
Intentional granny.
Intentional Cl, he got hit likea quarterback, throwing the ball
away.
He's gonna throw a spiral.
Or somewhat of a weird duck.
This was like a ball just throw.
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This was a duck.
And they called that and so theref then said that he didn't
feel like there was physicalcontact that caused the issue.
Oh and so obviously this guythen tweeted the, Portland part
intention ground should not becalled if the passer is outta
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the pocket, which he was ispassing motion, which he was and
is significantly affected by thephysical contact.
That causes the ball to landshort of long scrimmage.
Okay.
But that's what the ref wasarguing and that's what the ref
was arguing.
So at least he knew the rule.
I was okay with his, rightunderstanding of it.
But if I could show you guys it,it was not,
Cole Ingle (05:55):
this wasn't
something that was up for
argument.
No.
Stoy Hall (05:59):
No, no quarterback
one rolling out and throwing the
ball should ever.
duck come out like that.
Except for two in preseason.
That's fair.
That's what it looked like.
But we're gonna keep on theFalcon strain.
Okay.
Cuz it's hilarious and sad atsame type.
Ritter threw for two 18, nopicks by the way.
Two 18 Yeah.
Was the second highest mark ofthe season.
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Hey, he's played two games andhas the second highest.
This season 218.
That's crazy.
I wanted to look at this one cuzI know we talked about it, but I
think we have in here the, and Ihad posted about one score
games.
So this one's from the ff Yeah.
Vikings.
(06:39):
And One score games are 11
Cole Ingle (06:40):
to oh 11 and Oh
unheard of in the nfl they've
played
Stoy Hall (06:44):
16 games.
Yeah.
11 and Oh,
Cole Ingle (06:48):
mind you, NFL
historically, one, score games
are basically a coin flip.
Correct.
So theoretically speaking like agood season, like eight and
three would be phenomenal.
If you could go that in one
Stoy Hall (07:04):
score games, if we
give them three more losses.
Cole Ingle (07:06):
Yeah.
And whole, we're talking
Stoy Hall (07:07):
about whole
different, Absolutely.
And we'll, get to that.
Yeah.
But that's why it threw that oneup there.
little love for Drake though.
The top five fcs, edge defensivegrades for the pf f Fin Claypool
with a 92.1 from the DrakeUniversity.
Bulldogs.
Bulldogs.
(07:29):
Okay.
Second place was 90.4.
I'm just saying he's also afreshman.
Cole Ingle (07:33):
Do you grading out
at 92 in anything is unreal.
So in
Stoy Hall (07:39):
literally anything
Yeah.
Math tests, anything.
Yeah, it's.
Kudos.
Yeah.
Pretty good.
This one's I just more alongwith what Digs does, so I just
wanted to reiterate, jumped itthat this happens.
Wk 17 News Feed (07:55):
Yeah.
Cole Ingle (07:55):
Try to take
advantage of a young
quarterback.
At
Stoy Hall (07:57):
least every time
there's a young quarterback,
we're not gonna watch it.
Oh, there it goes.
Oh, go.
Yep.
Yep.
Cole Ingle (08:06):
Oh if that surprises
you at this point from Diggs,
then.
Wk 17 News Feed (08:12):
This
Stoy Hall (08:13):
what you posted.
Glorious.
So I'll let you do this thing.
Cole Ingle (08:19):
So this is Cowboys
Eagles, Devonte Smith.
I believe this was after hissecond touchdown, or maybe this
was the first one.
But we got he starts by, puttingon the ski mask.
Yep.
Here we, you're gonna see yourski mask, mask on kicks open the
door.
And now we're stealingchildren's presence with the
help.
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of fellow receiver out of theSalvation Army, bucket of which
is very popular and known forDallas Cowboys touchdown
celebrations over the last twoyears.
Zeke specifically, but also thetight end group and then Dak
helped out a little bit as well.
(09:02):
don't know if this'll be a fineor not, because they technically
didn't touch the prop.
And and they didn't use afootball they, didn't do
anything.
If there was nothing here otherthan him just doing that, they
wouldn't be fined.
So I don't know if, because theyrobbed Salvation Army, that will
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get a fine out of just, hey, itwas bad,
Stoy Hall (09:26):
taste.
It was glorious.
I, enjoyed that.
It was
Cole Ingle (09:29):
smart.
The creativity is there.
Yeah.
But I just I feel like we justdidn't read the room.
Stoy Hall (09:36):
No yeah, absolutely
didn't read the room, but I
enjoyed it.
But like I enjoyed it
Cole Ingle (09:40):
to, yeah, I don't
know.
Probably because it was Dallas,I didn't like it as much as I
maybe should have.
But yeah, I it was good.
I'm going for distasteful.
Stoy Hall (09:53):
So distasteful,
quarterbacks.
There's a whole room rightthere.
Mac Jones being dirty.
Cole Ingle (10:00):
The Grayson Allen of
the nfl.
Stoy Hall (10:06):
This plays illegal
and did not get called.
Cole Ingle (10:11):
Yeah.
He lays down in front of, hetakes guy.
He's not really doing any, Idon't know why.
Just go, what would you do?
Why, what, why is 20 stillrunning?
Just go celebrate.
But then wise Smack Jones so hegave I didn't read it because
what you block, what do you,what's I don't care what he's
gonna say.
He gave a, he gave anexplanation.
(10:33):
When asked about it
Stoy Hall (10:34):
he thought that guy
was gonna go,
Cole Ingle (10:36):
no, I don't know.
I don't know what it was like ifhe was just like, to a point
where he was just falling over,but no
Stoy Hall (10:43):
to me, that's dirty.
I don't like it.
No, I, he could've stuck hisknee and his helmet went and
custom.
I like,
Cole Ingle (10:48):
he's kicked guys in
the balls this year with his
slides.
He's had some,
Stoy Hall (10:53):
there's nothing here
from a football perspective that
he needs to do.
He's not catching him.
So
Cole Ingle (10:57):
just give up, just
stop.
And not to mention, like bythrowing yourself on the ground.
you can hurt yourself.
You are, and like you're tryingnot to get, he's also trying not
to get hit.
Yeah.
But, so just, in general likemy, so don't get hit.
Should be, don't get hit.
So like right here.
Turn, you mean the go back tothe sideline?
Stoy Hall (11:14):
You mean like the
rest of these, like these guys,
like they're, not in involved.
Yeah.
I just
Cole Ingle (11:20):
Instead Mac Jones,
it's also Patriots lays down at
somebody's knees.
So
Stoy Hall (11:24):
this is just more to
the Gronk part?
Yeah,
Cole Ingle (11:27):
just what we talked
about there.
I should love that.
Stoy Hall (11:30):
Oh, Gronk, This was a
good one by you.
This was a good one.
When your wife says there'sstill one more 65 step
instruction toy to put
Cole Ingle (11:43):
together.
Yeah.
The old some choice words.
Yes.
Choice one, no one
Stoy Hall (11:50):
specifically.
Yep.
Yep.
Specifically, what is this
Cole Ingle (11:54):
Christmas spirit?
Stoy Hall (11:56):
Ooh, A little Brock.
Love, huh?
And my Facebook is blown up withhim.
Ton of, I'm actually ton of itout there, getting sick of it.
Cole Ingle (12:04):
This is, but he's
been so damn good.
You can't even deny it.
list of every QB since 1950 tothrow for multiple touchdowns
with a 100 plus passer rating ineach of his first three career
starts.
Dan Marino.
Brock Purdy.
(12:24):
That's that's pretty goodcompany.
That's pretty rare air.
Yeah.
And then there's a picturecirculating out there at a three
months or less age.
Brock Purdy's dad is holding himup to look at a picture of Dan
Marino.
That's pretty, and the pictureis the internet to find that go
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back and tell your kid that atthis.
You will hold a record with onlyDan Marino.
Yeah.
Not that you're holding a recordthat Dan Marino has, but simply
that you are the only two whohave the record done it.
Yeah.
It's yeah, just one of thosethings.
Stoy Hall (13:04):
This one just goes to
just talk about how tough Kurt
Cousins is.
This stat is when, I, when yousent it, and I read it like
twice, I just couldn't believethis, but Kirk Cousins has been
hit 125 times this year through15 games.
not once in any season since2000, which is as far back as
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whatever this person, stat,whatever took, yeah.
Care of this.
Has a quarterback been hit morethrough 15 games?
This guy's an absolute warrior.
Yeah.
That's a lot of
Cole Ingle (13:34):
hits.
No.
Yeah.
This goes back to lot of hitscomparable to like when David
Carr came out as the Texansquarterback and got sacked like
50 times in the season orwhatever the heck it was.
Peyton Manning, like in hisrookie season, like we're
talking about epically badoffensive line protection from
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a, letting the defenses hit yourquarterback for a team that's
still in the running for the oneseat in the nfc.
Stoy Hall (14:06):
So the whole fraud
thing.
Yeah.
This is another stat to gotowards that.
Cole Ingle (14:10):
It is, but if you've
got a quarterback who's willing
to stand in there and you'vebeen that successful in one
score, to me, that actually tipsthe scales towards like he's the
only thing that might not befraudulent.
Correct.
Stoy Hall (14:25):
I, agree.
But regression to the
Cole Ingle (14:27):
team, the team that
leads into the team fraudulent.
I believe that cousins probablyhasn't got enough credit for
what he's done for this teamthis year.
That's fair.
Because guys really like to poopon that dude.
They do.
And he makes it easy.
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Don't get me wrong.
They do.
But
Stoy Hall (14:50):
yeah.
Okay.
We get into, now we get in, weget into Tua.
Okay.
I was basically texting youabout their last four drives,
which went like field goal orfumble field goal.
Pick, So
Cole Ingle (15:07):
this is in the
second
Stoy Hall (15:08):
quarter though?
Yep.
This is before that situation,which come to find out.
Just watch.
and just, let's just watch hishead Boyk.
Don't worry.
We could have zoomed in, whichthey don't show the after, which
(15:28):
sucks, but
Cole Ingle (15:30):
like to me, it
didn't even really look like he
was headed at the
Stoy Hall (15:32):
ground there.
It didn't, however,statistically, and I don't know
if they have it in this tweetbut from this, he went like
three picks in completion.
Percentage of 25.
Cole Ingle (15:44):
but you also didn't
have like necessarily anything
very visible, real time.
Like he got up right away,didn't waiver off the field,
didn't lay there
Stoy Hall (15:58):
my thing is the fact
though that he, his other
injuries this
Cole Ingle (16:01):
season, no, I don't
disagree, but at that point then
they need to have a requiredspotter on Tua.
And anytime you.
Any apparent whiplash, go checkhim out.
He just needs to go in, go checkhim out.
What does it hurt?
So let's say here's, the issuethat I would present as from a
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fan and team perspective is.
Let's say he throws that passand that running back runs for a
touchdown.
Or runs for a first down, evenmore so than a touchdown.
The touchdown wouldn't really beas relevant, but because they
have time, because because hewouldn't have to still be on the
field.
So you're now forcibly removinga player from the field when you
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didn't have visual
Stoy Hall (16:44):
evidence.
This is first down, so this isthe a, this scenario.
Cole Ingle (16:49):
So should he have
come out on second?
Mid drive, you're up 20 to 10.
Let's call it, let's say this isfourth quarter, two minute
drive.
First down, this play happens onfirst down, and you're gonna
just pull'em because you thinkyou might.
Now we've definitely argued thesafety side of things.
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That's where it becomes sodifficult though, is because
this play doesn't look to melike he hits his head on the
ground.
But we've seen other reallyobvious situations get
completely overlooked.
So this one didn't surprise mefrom that perspective.
Now this is being pointed out aswhere they think he might have
gotten and the stats arepointing towards this being, and
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he's in concussion Pro callalso.
We're two minutes from halftime.
If Tua is feeling that, knowinghis past history, man, you got
to, some of the onus is on him,correct?
Because.
Nothing happened between now andhalftime between not to say that
it couldn't have but it didn't.
And so if that is the case andthis is what happened, then I've
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gotta put some, blame back onthe player himself, knowing his
own situation.
And I know that's hard, but ifhe had a headache, if his neck
wasn't feeling right, if it,whatever it was, knowing what
you've gone through this year,you have to be able.
He said, listen, check me out.
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If I'm good.
But because I don't, I justdon't think that play was
obvious enough.
And he didn't lay, like I said,he didn't play on the field or
lay on the field.
He didn't shake anything off.
He didn't stumble getting uplike it was boom, back in the
huddle.
Everything was normal
Stoy Hall (18:31):
to me.
It's not go check him outimmediately.
That's one of those ones, likeagain, situationally, it's two
minutes till halftime.
Halftime.
Hey, That looked a littledifferent.
Why don't we just, why don't,just, let's take, test this out
real quick.
It's half time.
Yeah.
This is clearly time to do that.
Let's just figure it out realquick and see if you're all
right.
Clearly he was not statisticallyand clearly now he's in
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concussion protocol right now.
Is that because of this?
I don't I, don't know.
But he's now currently inconcussion protocol right now.
Let's assume.
Terrible thing to do that he isnow concussed.
Gotta be done for the year.
Done for the year.
At a minimum, right?
Cole Ingle (19:11):
At the minimum,
absolutely.
You have
Stoy Hall (19:13):
to be because that'd
be his third, fourth, technical
third who got who really knows,but at least his third.
Yeah.
You gotta shut him down.
Yeah.
And
Cole Ingle (19:22):
Here's the thing is
whether or not we want to agree
or disagree on what we'reseeing, the person who tweeted
this saw this, recorded it andsaid, Hey, the, so if a fan or a
person, I don't know who thisMichael Williams is.
in general.
But yeah, if they're seeing it,then that means whoever's at the
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NFL level reviewing, whether itbe the medical staff, the team,
whoever's in charge of that,should also be seeing that.
And that's, gone back to ourpoints over to his previous
injuries and other concussioninjuries where players aren't
getting blown dead.
Is that in a league that makesas much money as they do to not.
they have an all 22 view to nothave those plays whistle dead
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and those people removed fromthe field.
That's the criminality in it allis that viewers at home are
seeing this stuff.
So therefore, like this is notsomething that's like off to the
sideline.
You couldn't see it on cameratype of thing.
People at home are seeing all ofthese things.
So that's the issue and that'swhat has to be fixed, is there
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has to be more accountabilityfrom the.
In whatever premise that is onmaking sure that, hey, we just
had, and I don't care if itshoot, if you gotta have 22
dudes that are assigned to liketo each player on the field,
every player on the field youhave you, if did your guy get
hit in the head in a way that heneeds to be checked out or
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possibly checked?
and fine for every game.
You have the money, you have theresources.
Yeah.
The safety.
Now again, 22 is excessive,don't get me wrong, but even a
guy on each side of the ball.
And right now they don't evenseem to have that.
So
Stoy Hall (21:09):
I don't even know if
they have one AGA at a game.
B bummer over here for theBengals.
Connelly's Torres, his ACL andhis M C L after tough initial
tests say acl.
So again, on field exams don'tmean much.
Nope.
But that's tough.
(21:29):
Yeah.
Cole Ingle (21:30):
Especially for
Stoy Hall (21:31):
that's been tough for
the,
Cole Ingle (21:31):
that's gonna be
tough for the banks.
Bengals struggled up front,start the year and had really
started to come together.
Hottest team in the league rightnow, or one of the hottest teams
in the league.
So to get through the afc,losing your right tackle, a
little more replaceable thanyour left tackle, don't get me
wrong, but definitely an uphillbattle, especially from that
Stoy Hall (21:51):
positional
perspective, especially going
into Monday night footballagainst the bills.
Yep.
That's gonna weigh a little bitfor this game specifically.
Yeah.
Gotta love our Broncos every.
Bronco's getting into it.
Just you're starting a lineagainst your backup quarterback.
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I really wish there was a micand I hope there was Comes out.
There is, oh, there is.
Yeah.
No,
Cole Ingle (22:17):
really on what was
said.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh,
Stoy Hall (22:19):
I'm gonna walk you
through.
Yeah, absolutely.
So
Cole Ingle (22:21):
Here I'll, I'll
start the beginning.
Back to the beginning.
So this is Jeff DRIs.
The backup quarterback for thedimmer Broncos.
Now it's, it is Ripan, or sorry,Jeff
Stoy Hall (22:31):
Ripen.
Yeah, I don't know.
Freaking whatever.
Doesn't matter.
Cole Ingle (22:34):
Backup quarterback,
back quarterback for the
Broncos.
Excuse me.
Rip telling the offensive lineto help Russ off the ground when
he gets hit.
and the offensive linemanbasically being over Russ's play
for the year.
I think soon after this Riponactually goes in the game.
(22:54):
Don't know if they did a coupleOlay blocks or there, but
basically after that dude pusheshim, tells, says, GE come at me,
Jeff basically is what he says.
Yeah.
And then you see him fall downand as the backup quarterback.
I don't mind the leadershipperspective of that, but your
quarterback is a captain, is a15 plus year NFL veteran at this
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point, somewhere in there,probably 12 to 15.
However long the rest has beenin the league.
If his linemen are not pickinghim up at this point, that's on
him.
Yeah, that's on him.
And while I like, again, Iappreciate the dude, his
leadership in being willing tospeak up to that.
Know your spot.
Stoy Hall (23:39):
Read the room bud.
Read the room.
Read
Cole Ingle (23:41):
the room a hundred
percent.
Read the room.
So that's what that was allabout.
I didn't know that NathanielHackett obviously got fired
after this game as well becauseof things just like this.
This
Stoy Hall (23:50):
is why, yeah I, two
games remaining in your rookie
season that has coach.
Yeah.
You
Cole Ingle (23:54):
can't have this
going on in your sideway.
This is what's going on alongwith everything else we lost the
locker means that you've, yourteam quit.
You just gave up 51 to a Rams toRams team.
Couldn't score, scored 15 threegames.
Yeah.
Combined.
So yeah.
That's, what that whole, that'sawesome.
Dispute was
Stoy Hall (24:11):
though.
So the off season for theBroncos will be
Cole Ingle (24:16):
interesting.
Yeah.
gonna be a lot of changes there.
Stoy Hall (24:21):
Because the dude is
Russ isn't good at football.
Yeah.
No.
So this one you sent.
Cole Ingle (24:30):
This is there's a,
theme along around the N F L in
general.
There's been a ton of closegames this year.
We know how competitive the N FL has been and continues to be
from a playoffs r playoff raceperspective, A one score game
perspective.
This is, the Giants happen to bethe but of this terrible stat.
The scores in these games aretwo tied ball games and one in
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which the giants were.
These are field goals of 61 to63 yards.
Here's
Stoy Hall (25:03):
61, 63 and
Cole Ingle (25:04):
61 61.
As time expires, I don't knowwhat the percentages on the year
are for field goals over 60yards.
You don't get a ton ofopportunities to'em.
Definitely not three for three.
Team teams are 100% against theGiants in game winning field
goals of plus 60 plus yards thisyear against the Giants that
would be indoors and I believetwo outdoor kicks.
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Yes.
Being in Philadelphia and inCarolina.
So tough.
Just tough, like how the hell doyou not block them?
By the way, shows you theVikings are 11 and oh again,
they are one of these teams thatis gonna kick one of the 60
yarders in order to win the.
And again, are you guaranteed towin two outta three of those?
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No.
Because you would just be goingto overtime.
However, the fact that all threeof these kicks were made, now
you're three and oh in gamesdecided by a 60 yard field goal.
Here's,
Stoy Hall (25:58):
here's my issue.
They didn't learn.
Okay.
I don't know the order of whichthese were played.
Yeah.
But what they didn't do is theydidn't learn.
I'm going to, and I can't tell,I don't know if they had a
returner back here or not, butthey're in return mode on all
of.
Cole Ingle (26:14):
The, they lost this
game was this week.
Okay.
Yeah.
Against,
Stoy Hall (26:18):
so they're in return
mode.
And what I mean by that is, lookhow many guys are upstanding,
right?
Because they think it's gonna beshort so they can return it for,
that's fine.
A house school, that's fine.
But you didn't learn go block 61yard field goals have to have a
lower trajectory.
I'd rather go block the damnthing, especially if it's
happened to me twice
Cole Ingle (26:36):
already.
I don't disagree.
But here's, my other side.
The fact that they're in returnmode says that the chance of
that kick being short versusgoing in, is it at worst, 50 50
or you wouldn't be in returnmode maybe unless they idiots.
Also, if you run into and orrough the kicker, it's now a
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much more makeable field goal inthe chance that you thought he
would miss being a 50 50.
Proposition as a 60 yard fieldgoal.
I don't
Stoy Hall (27:14):
wanna lose on a 60
yard field goal.
I'm going to go block thatthing.
Cole Ingle (27:17):
Okay.
That's just go block.
I I don't, I can't disagree withit.
I'm just saying as a 60 yardfield goal?
No,
Stoy Hall (27:24):
just, no, just You
can still have a guy, by the
way.
You can still have a guy backthere go block it and still have
a return on those are big fatguys out there.
It's not, and kickers andholders.
kickers and holders there's notvery many.
The tight ends are the mostathletic people on that field.
For the offense.
No, I get it.
I could not imagine losing threethat way.
Yeah.
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But I, get your argument.
It really makes sense.
Yeah.
Really makes sense.
Where's, Nope, lemme just talkabout it a little bit.
Packet gets canned to aconcussion.
Matt, we talk about that one.
Ooh, I did.
I just like this one.
So
Cole Ingle (28:05):
Can you turn the
sound on for.
Stoy Hall (28:07):
I'm sure I can.
I'm
Cole Ingle (28:08):
sure we'll get in
trouble.
There's there's nobody talking.
If you want to feel and hear ahit, this is it more here in
this first half.
Here's another one.
Watch out.
Stoy Hall (28:24):
Put more here in this
first
Cole Ingle (28:25):
half.
Thank you.
Here's another watch out.
Woo.
More here.
In this first half, here's oneof the loudest hits I've heard
in a long time, which whilewatching a game.
Stoy Hall (28:37):
So he gets
Cole Ingle (28:39):
ejected.
Tosses himself and the offensiveplayer in the name of player
safety.
everything that was done wascorrect.
I don't think that it was adirty hit though.
No, but when they when you sawhe, he leads with the crown.
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And by that he doesn't knowwhere the receiver's gonna end
up, but he's running rightthrough him.
Crown actually hits the shoulderpad first when you watch.
in Slope.
Yeah.
Like I've seen this in Slowmo.
But you just can't run throughthat high.
And he's not attempting to rapat all.
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No.
This and the attempt to rap,then he can't lead with
Wk 17 News Feed (29:26):
the
Stoy Hall (29:26):
crown.
This is old school hit.
Oh yeah,
Cole Ingle (29:29):
yeah.
This is Ronnie lot.
This is awesome.
Hello.
And Derwin James has areputation.
So that's one of the reasons forthe ejection.
I don't know if.
They, put him in con concussionprotocol as well, but I don't
know, whatever came from that,he
Stoy Hall (29:45):
receiver got
concussed.
I don't think Derwin actuallyended up with a concussion.
That
Cole Ingle (29:50):
receiver might have
gotten concussed.
He might have just broken hiscollarbone or shoulder or Right.
There's a lot like he got
Stoy Hall (29:57):
wrecked.
All I'm saying is when Ioriginally saw it, I did not see
a penalty.
Technically he led with theCrown and I get the whole rule
behind it, but the penalty
Cole Ingle (30:11):
is, it was just
blind blindside, defensive
receiver, anything above thenumbers.
Yeah, you gotta call it.
For player safety.
And I get that, and that's,again, I love seeing the
Wk 17 News Feed (30:21):
hit.
Stoy Hall (30:21):
I just don't think it
was, but I don't think, it
wasn't intentionally trying tohurt him.
I don't think that was it.
I'll disagree.
Every hit is I'm trying tointentionally hurt somebody and
that's why I make that.
I am trying to knock you outevery
Cole Ingle (30:34):
hit.
This isn't like we watched whatMack Jones did.
Yes.
Unnecessary Correct.
Laying down on a play that thisdude just was super athletic,
ran really fast.
Correct.
And then wanted delay the hitstick on This dude just went
high instead of just wrappinghim up.
And he could have went,
Stoy Hall (30:51):
he could have done
the same thing, but went ribs.
And that would've
Cole Ingle (30:55):
been fine.
Yeah.
And the guy would've broken,broken ribs.
And then you are also talkingabout a five foot 10 receiver.
So yeah, Derwin James is a 6 3,6 foot four.
So player size definitelymatters as well.
Although his ribs would've hurtso bad.
So bad.
Yep.
Oh my lord.
And again, the noise, the soundtrack of that is NFL films.
(31:15):
Yeah.
Worthy
Stoy Hall (31:17):
You threw up this
one.
Yeah.
Travis Kelsey leads all,receivers in tight ends and
yards after catch as a 33 yearold tight end.
Yeah.
It's just the free, mainlybecause they don't freaking
cover him.
Cole Ingle (31:32):
And that's, here's
the thing is who else are the
chiefs gonna throw to They haveSchuster and then like they
spread the ball well, and solike that.
and their scheme, but theirscheme is what allows for the
yards after catch that Kelseygets in his very unorthodox
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receiving slash running style.
Old swivel hips.
Oh, swivel.
Cause he's not fast.
Oh, he is physical, right?
But he's also a little bit moreprone to fumble down the field
fighting for yards.
But that's also why he leads theleague in yak.
But at 33
Stoy Hall (32:12):
also, some people
they there is multiple gains.
They just don't cover him.
No.
So that's don't disagree, butyeah.
Cole Ingle (32:18):
No, but I very
rarely is he catch.
and not having a couple ofpeople miss Correct.
In his big Correct.
Stoy Hall (32:26):
Accurate place.
It the, crazier thing is, it'sreceivers.
That
Cole Ingle (32:30):
everyone, that's
the, yeah.
Including Justin Jefferson, whois, may well break the receiving
record.
He should this year
Stoy Hall (32:37):
because they gotta
play all 18, so he should, yeah.
All here we go.
N NFL won possession games ifthe opposite results have
occurred.
All right.
Updated through, Christmasbasically.
Yeah.
So I want you guys to look atthese and just look at the
team's difference really.
The Vikings would be one in 14.
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One in 14.
Cole Ingle (33:01):
One in 14.
Look at that.
They've had one game all yearthat hasn't been decided by a
score.
No, That's
Stoy Hall (33:12):
not how that, There'd
be one in 14.
They're 11 and oh, there'd befour games.
There're one in three in theother games.
Cole Ingle (33:22):
One.
Okay.
Stoy Hall (33:23):
Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
So yes, but e regardless.
Crazy in the f c side.
Nine ERs would be your one seedbears close.
Your two seed falcons, threeseed, even Eagles be eight and
seven.
Yeah.
Your Seahawks will be 10 andfive, which that's fine.
Lions nine and six.
Cowboys eight and seven.
crazy change up.
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Would, and that's how close theNFL is.
Razor thin.
So we go to the AFC side.
We got Browns would be the oneseat at 10 and five.
The Browns right at 10 and five.
Jags 10 and five.
Raiders 10 and five.
And then the, team that youwould think would still be one
seed to be the bills.
Nope.
They're nine and.
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The Broncos would be your, fiveseat at nine and six.
Yeah.
Your Broncos who can't scorefive.
Game
Cole Ingle (34:13):
difference.
Five game difference.
But there, there was the statthat we had a few weeks back
that.
had they scored 18
Stoy Hall (34:20):
or whatever, 12,
whatever the stupid number was.
Yeah.
Cole Ingle (34:22):
18, 16, 19,
something like that.
Points per game.
They would've been 13 and two.
Yeah.
At one point.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
So not, so surprising,
Stoy Hall (34:32):
but the surprising
part is how bad their
Cole Ingle (34:34):
quarterback is.
Again, their coach just gotfired and that's how close they
are to being nine and six.
And the other status is howclose they are to being a team
that's right there with thechiefs as far as overall reps,
Stoy Hall (34:46):
absolutely.
Bengals Nine and six Chiefs nineand six, and that rounds out.
But AFCs still tight regardless.
Yeah, I mean we're, we have adifference of five five wins.
From the bottom of the Chargersto the top of the Browns NFC
would be 10 to one.
Much greater spread there.
And, but it really, it's justthe Vikings of how crazy they
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would be.
But I thought that wasinteresting.
Cole Ingle (35:11):
We talked about, but
I mean, the one that jumps off
to me there, the Giants as.
As we just talked about, theGiants losing three games, they
still have five other victoriesof one score games in which
they've won.
So that's just right there.
That's eight games that they'vehad within a score less.
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And they're, actually five andthree in those games.
Yeah.
So they're, better for it.
They've got eight wins.
There's three six.
They would, yeah, they'd play alot of close football games.
So just
Stoy Hall (35:48):
goes to say N F L
this year has been awesome.
Yeah, I had to throw this one uphere for the old Matty Ice.
Okay.
Just throwing that up there.
Met Ryan in the 33 to 36, lostto the Vikings.
Had one touchdown, zero picks,zero fumbles.
Lost three sacks.
Taken.
The media Matt, Ryan Blue, A 33.
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Point lead Nick Foz replacingMatt.
Zero touchdowns.
Three interceptions.
Zero fumbles.
Seven sacks taken.
Nick Folz is out there battlingSure guys.
The Colts not good.
Okay.
The Colts are bad.
Yeah, Colts are bad.
I don't care about that one.
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Oh, this one.
US one's glorious.
All right.
Lazard Little Allen Ard Little.
Another.
Iowa State love product.
It's his celebration afterknocking three guys.
Really?
Two to the ground?
Cole Ingle (36:46):
No, he got three.
He hit two, but one of them hitanother.
So it's great block.
Good block
Stoy Hall (36:54):
2022.
Who just,
Cole Ingle (36:57):
this is great.
Effective.
So when we're in film post gamecoaches are grading film for
those unfamiliar just giving a,couple of different grades to a
play.
So one would be execution ofwhat is your job on this play.
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The other one would be effortlevel.
Those types of things where,okay, you did your job, but did,
you do your job because thedefense didn't really threaten
you, or did you like really goout and, do your job?
So Lazard is in charge ofbasically one person, maybe one
and a half people you would callit on this place.
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So he's in charge of the firstthreat, and so the fact that he
gets a block on what becomes asafety coming downhill, who's
not even over the top of him,20.
because most guys would just tryto, get 28 outta the way because
they're in man to man coverage.
And then 22 would fly throughand make this play.
Both Lazar gets a shoulder onhim so he doesn't have an angle
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to make the play 28 out.
Leverage out Ed and the two bigboys running after him get taken
out.
Because of what Lazard does to22.
Yeah.
If Lazard doesn't pick up 22like he's supposed to inside
out, none of the other thingshappen.
And so this is like an a plusyes.
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As far as everything that hedid, because I'm not even sure
that he would get a negative ifhe just went and blocked 28 on
this play because he's rightover the top.
There's very little differenceoverall.
Yeah.
And you know the place coming tothe outside.
So in playing both sides, likeit's hard to know exactly which
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one of those is a bigger threat.
you're running back.
So maybe a little bit of a isluck oh, absolutely.
With him, but absolutely justthe wherewithal to, and Lazard
is known as one of the bestblocking receivers in Absolutely
in nfl and has been since he wasat Iowa State as one of the
things that increased his draftstock to even being draftable.
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Was that, fun to see him.
It's a local guy we've seen,played at a local high school
here, Urbandale High School.
So always fun to see those guysdo well.
So
Stoy Hall (39:16):
I pause it in a great
spot from a defenses
perspective.
Yep.
Okay.
The issue, the main issue froma, fit, a gap fitting situation
is actually 28.
Lazard doesn't go to block him.
Yeah.
So he's
Cole Ingle (39:31):
gotta slide outside
immediately.
He has to
Stoy Hall (39:33):
get out here.
Okay.
If he gets out there, then hehas a decision to go over or
under.
Right now, he already made thedecision, I'm going to blow this
through.
Which is fine.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Yeah.
Because your next guy,linebacker has to make the.
Here.
The thing is, this shoulder isactually good enough to then it
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trips up the linebacker, right?
He also wanted to take thisinside, which I don't know why
because this is wide runningback's.
I, can't see him.
But he's already here.
He's outside
Cole Ingle (40:06):
of the lineman
already.
He's outside cuz that lineman ishead hunting.
First available after Lazardchooses whoever he needs.
Stoy Hall (40:13):
And it's really is
gonna be this guy,
Cole Ingle (40:14):
Uhhuh.
And he sees him, who he doesn'teven get to because the line.
running backs out here.
The cornerback takes such a badangle that it just doesn't even
become relevant,
Stoy Hall (40:23):
which he's not even
looking at the run back.
There's no way he's, steering,he's trying not
Cole Ingle (40:27):
to get
Stoy Hall (40:27):
pancakes done.
He's trying not to die.
Yep.
Right there.
That's what he's doing.
A hundred percent.
If he just went and filled here,
Cole Ingle (40:33):
that's what we'd
like to call him.
Business decision,
Stoy Hall (40:35):
right.
If he filled here, He cameinside, linebacker goes over the
top.
Linebacker makes a play becauserunning back's gonna have to cut
back for him.
Unless he just destroys him,which is possible, right?
He has to cut back regardless,which means he's inside,
Cole Ingle (40:50):
goes over the top.
But this would be even moreimpressive if the corner did get
leverage and therefore thecutback lane was the, option
like and then he has to cut backthrough.
If 20 eight's out where he issupposed to be and he cuts back
through this lane, that would bea hundred percent created.
All three guys would've been alane created by Lazard.
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Oh yeah.
Stoy Hall (41:12):
Lazard Lizard won
the, this is the Lazard plane.
Regardless, but it, this alsocomes back to the fact that 20
eight's just not trying to die.
That's, we'll roll it one moretime, but 28 should have made I
big guy.
A big guy.
Oh, okay.
Oh, shoot.
Don't be big guy.
And I, he is way faster than me.
There you go.
And gone.
I don't even know.
He
Cole Ingle (41:31):
scored and Rogers
looks over what's going on?
Stoy Hall (41:35):
Our girl ended in the
week.
Always good.
Yeah.
And then this one came up lateand it's just, is just, it's
tough being a Falcon fan.