August 6, 2025 • 12 mins
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What would make you cut a beard you've grown for years? For TJ, it wasn't money—it was the right creative project. In this candid conversation, TJ and Plaideau break down their separate journeys through this year's 48-Hour Film Competition in New Orleans, revealing the surprising personal sacrifices and creative decisions that shaped their experiences.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are live.
Oh no, we're not live.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We're just recording.
We're a-live but not live.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's not a live broadcast, but I guess it could
have been.
Yeah, hey, welcome back to NoahFilm Scene with TJ and Plato.
I'm TJ.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm Plato.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And we're just here talking about the 48-Hour Film
Competition.
This year, Brian and I were ondifferent teams dun, dun, dun
sort of sort of.
We did do a 48 earlier in theyear with michelle busquet and
we were on the same team forthat.
That was the kickoff 48, butthe local new orleans 48.
(00:40):
We did different teams.
I stayed with Michelle's teamand had a great time.
Brian, whose team were you on?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I was on AJ Lytel.
Ladies and gentlemen, you knowhow bad I am with names, but he
and I have been trying to workon a short film or do some film
for a couple of years now, andhe reached out before we had
cemented my participation onMichelle's team.
He reached out and said do youwant to be on my 48?
I was like, yeah, sure, andthen with these 48s, I'd love to
(01:12):
work with a new director.
Each time, not only do you geta chance to interact with
different actors and thedirector, but you're making your
contacts, you're making yourfriends, and he might know
something better about editingthan Michelle's team.
So I like the variety and, tj,I loved your film.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh, thank you.
Project and didn't think that Iwould ever have the opportunity
.
It worked out pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Michelle talked me into she convinced you to cut
your beard, huh.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, so early on our first guest was Hick Sheramy,
for those that don't know, hickHick also has a long beard and
early on we had Hick Sheramy onand we had Tavon Francis on and
they both have long beards.
We asked them what theirthreshold would be, what it
would take for them to cut theirbeard, and at the time I
(02:04):
thought it would take a lot ofmoney.
I didn't really think that Iwould consider cutting my beard
and it turns out it just tooksomebody asking me to do it for
the right project.
Michelle asked me if I'd bewilling to cut it and we talked
about options and for theproject I said yeah.
(02:25):
So we pulled my hair back andof course Dave her boyfriend
also does her editing for the48s is a professional barber,
hence his nickname, dave theBarber.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
But I got to set an hour early before everybody else
and Dave sat me down in thechair and trimmed the beard up,
took probably three-fourths ofit down, which for me is pretty
significant.
This is the shortest that mybeard has been in years.
It's probably still longer thanthe average bear, but for me
(03:00):
it's pretty short and we had agreat time doing that project.
I won't give any spoilersbecause it hasn't.
The film hasn't been madepublic yet, but it was a
superhero support group and wehad a good time with it.
I made some new friends on thatproject, people I hadn't worked
with before and it was.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It was a lot of fun, awesome.
But you posted that Saturday.
You're like well, I neverthought I'd do it, but I'm
cutting a beard with no picture.
Your circle of friends lit itup.
I saw your post and they werelike you can't just drop that.
New People were panicking, theywere freaking out.
People were like wait what?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah.
So what I said was I prefacedit with y'all remember that time
on the podcast, I asked Hickwhat it would take for him to
cut his beard.
Well, now I know what it wouldtake for me and I left it at
that.
I didn't post a picture, Ididn't post a follow up and
people started texting me liketo my private phone number what,
(04:01):
how are you going to postsomething like that?
It wasn't five minutes and hicktexted me and other people were
hitting me up like wait, whatis this about?
What happened?
What'd you do?
I probably should have let it,let it soak overnight, but I
went ahead and broke my silenceand posted a picture.
It's not, it's not drastic, butit for me it was a pretty
(04:24):
significant change.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I didn't realize how much they had cut, because it's
still Santa Claus-y, yourmustache isn't white, but you
got the claws going on.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, if I straighten it with heat it's a little bit
longer, but when it's shorter itcurls up and it just makes it
look shorter than it is.
I'm liking it, though.
I mean, he did a nice, niceshape around my jawline.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
He edits movies and edits your face.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
He did edit my face.
He's the barber.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
If you need to contact us, we'll get you in
contact with him.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's right.
And speaking of sponsors, wewould just like to thank the Law
of Jana McCaffrey forsponsoring the show.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Thank you, Jana.
Thank you, Jana.
We know Jana from our 48 fromlast year.
Tj's told you about his 48.
Now I'm going to tell you aboutmine.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, let's hear about that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I got to play a cowboy thug.
You got to play a cowboy again.
Again.
Last year I was a bumblingsheriff and this time I'm a
bully cowboy.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Talk about extremes.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Just in one year we worked at the Wind Dancer Equine
Rescue Ranch, so Aubrey and I'msorry I can't remember your
last name at this moment rescueshorses and takes care of them.
There's donkeys, many donkeys,and she's got her dogs, so in
between every take you had someanimal to play with.
The donkeys were so sweet.
Had this little one walk up andhe just he didn't like run into
(05:52):
me, just walked up, put his headon my leg and waited to be
petted.
He was real sweet.
So where, where's that?
That is past Slidell, not allthe way to Mississippi, but
headed that way, so it's on yourneck of the woods, going north.
I gotcha, without givinganything away.
I got to play, like I said, abully and I saw an opportunity
(06:16):
to be a creep, kind of like thatstepdad role.
I did so In the scene I walk upto the person I bully and his
girlfriend, and I had the ideait wasn't totally in the script
and I asked her look, I'm notgoing to do anything very bad,
but can I drape my arm aroundyour shoulders?
Can I run my fingers throughyour hair if I do that, or touch
(06:36):
your shoulder, like?
I got permission, like if wehad an intimacy coordinator on
set.
Well, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So she said yeah, that's right On set, what we
didn't.
So she said, yeah, that's right.
That was some of the advicethat she gave us was to talk.
If you don't have an intimacycoordinator on set, talk it
through with your scene partner.
Yeah, just like an improv, youtalk it through before to let
everyone know what you'recomfortable and not comfortable
with.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And that was Ashley Landry on.
Her episode should be coming upsoon.
See a couple of weeks.
So she said yes, and I come inand I'm trying to edit myself so
I don't give anything away.
But I lean over and I say mylines and I, you know, play with
my hair, play with her hair, Idon't play with mine.
And then you say cut.
And then the room went oh, andthe lady shuddered.
(07:24):
And you can tell when theenergy of a scene touches people
.
That's a really weird way toput it after talking about that,
but their excitement was likethey couldn't stop talking.
You know what I mean and I wasreally proud of that moment.
Maybe I shouldn't be proud,whatever word.
It felt good and that's that'smy favorite scene in that show.
So hopefully it's called ThreeWise Men.
(07:46):
Hopefully it'll be out soon.
It may go to other festivals.
A 48-hour film is four to sevenminutes, not counting credits.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
We pretty much had a 12 to 15-minute film, so then
that has to be cut down.
So, since if we plan to take itto other festivals and you have
to get a permission of the 48film festival for a year, it
will not come out on YouTubebecause you can't share it
before you go to other festivals.
Right, at some point we willshare that with the public and I
(08:15):
can't wait for you all to seeit.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And I think you have to leave.
I think you have to leave thesection about it being part of
the 48 hour film project inthere.
I don't know if it's only forthat.
I don't, I haven't researchedit enough to know if it's only
for that first year, or if it'sforever.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think it's for one year, cause we were talking
about that last year with umwaiting for good toe.
Oh, I got you.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, a 12 to 15 minute director's cut of that
film.
I yeah, a 12 to 15 minutedirector's cut of that film.
I would like to see that, metoo, and I'd like us.
I really enjoyed your film.
I don't know everybody that wasin that film, but I thought
everybody did a great job.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Thank you.
Like I said, I loved your film.
It was concise and it held thestory so well and I think that's
what we lacked.
I'm sorry to say that publiclyand that happens.
That happened a little bit.
On Waiting for Good Toe, we hadabout a 10 minute film.
We had to drop down Like ourhero.
There wanted to be more shotsof him walking alone to show how
(09:18):
lonely he was.
Well, he had to abandon that.
You know, I love what we havethere, but now I love making 48
hour films in the seven andseven.
That's great.
Let's go make some films wherewe can take our time you know
what I mean when we can plan itout a little more and do what we
want to take two or three takes, you know, get the close up
this time did.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
He wanted a lot more intimate shots, a lot closer up
shots, character development,because just like the 48, you
only have up to seven minutes totell that story.
So he did a lot of close up andsingle light work, something
that I'm noticing with thesefilms.
You mentioned having to cut itdown from 12 or 15 minutes.
I find that if the scriptstarts out longer than seven
(10:10):
pages it's about a page a minutefor film it's harder to cut
that down and harder to makethat story flow and be more
concise when you have morescript, versus filming more
takes and you know longersequences and then cutting.
If you keep the script tight tobe within that four to seven
(10:34):
minute window, it's a littleeasier to keep it concise, at
least from what I'm seeing fromwatching filmmakers that I've
worked with I agree, I agreetotally.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But sometimes the creative process doesn't allow
you to stop at seven.
Yeah, I agree, you've got thisoutline.
I know where I want the storyto go.
I want this to happen, you know, and there was footage that we
shot that wasn't essential tothe story, but it was very cool
and I've got the chopping block.
So a couple of my cast mateslike their scenes got cut off.
(11:06):
Uh, luckily for me, I was inthe lead and I'm bullying the
protagonist.
I wasn't going anywhere, youknow that's, but I still felt
bad for them.
You know what I mean.
I want everybody to have theirchance to shine.
Can't always do it.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But you do look good in gold, my friend.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We just want to give you a little taste of our
48-hour experience, a littlesous-sant, a little touch.
And on Thursday, august 14th,if you're in the New Orleans
area, the finalists for theAudience Award 12 films will be
shown at the Broad Theater andthen you can help vote on it.
We don't know when.
The finals are probably a weekor two after that, and then
(11:46):
we'll find out and at some pointthey're going to announce the
nominees Best actor, bestpicture.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
As of this recording, we don't have the date for the
finals yet, or the nominees, butit usually does come out before
the second screening.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So we should, within the next few days, know
something.
We should Not that awards areimportant, but they are fun.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
They are fun.
I like the networking, gettingto meet the other teams and talk
about their films, and I'vebeen able to get involved with
other projects for meetingpeople at the 48 and 7 and 7
events.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So that's always I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I've always had a good time with it.
I look forward to it.
It just feels cool to go inthere and see yourself on the
big screen and then see all ofyour friends in their films on
the big screen as well.
So it's always a good timeAgreed and it's a good
experience.
So if you haven't gotteninvolved with a 48, I highly
recommend it Coming soon to atown near you.
(12:46):
All right, folks, we'll see younext time.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
See you later.
We are live.
Oh no, we're not live.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We're just recording.
We're a-live but not live.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's not a live broadcast, but I guess it could
have been.
Yeah, hey, welcome back to NoahFilm Scene with TJ and Plato.
I'm TJ.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm Plato.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And we're just here talking about the 48-Hour Film
Competition.
This year, Brian and I were ondifferent teams dun, dun, dun
sort of sort of.
We did do a 48 earlier in theyear with michelle busquet and
we were on the same team forthat.
That was the kickoff 48, butthe local new orleans 48.
(00:40):
We did different teams.
I stayed with Michelle's teamand had a great time.
Brian, whose team were you on?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I was on AJ Lytel.
Ladies and gentlemen, you knowhow bad I am with names, but he
and I have been trying to workon a short film or do some film
for a couple of years now, andhe reached out before we had
cemented my participation onMichelle's team.
He reached out and said do youwant to be on my 48?
I was like, yeah, sure, andthen with these 48s, I'd love to
(01:12):
work with a new director.
Each time, not only do you geta chance to interact with
different actors and thedirector, but you're making your
contacts, you're making yourfriends, and he might know
something better about editingthan Michelle's team.
So I like the variety and, tj,I loved your film.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh, thank you.
Project and didn't think that Iwould ever have the opportunity
.
It worked out pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Michelle talked me into she convinced you to cut
your beard, huh.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, so early on our first guest was Hick Sheramy,
for those that don't know, hickHick also has a long beard and
early on we had Hick Sheramy onand we had Tavon Francis on and
they both have long beards.
We asked them what theirthreshold would be, what it
would take for them to cut theirbeard, and at the time I
(02:04):
thought it would take a lot ofmoney.
I didn't really think that Iwould consider cutting my beard
and it turns out it just tooksomebody asking me to do it for
the right project.
Michelle asked me if I'd bewilling to cut it and we talked
about options and for theproject I said yeah.
(02:25):
So we pulled my hair back andof course Dave her boyfriend
also does her editing for the48s is a professional barber,
hence his nickname, dave theBarber.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
But I got to set an hour early before everybody else
and Dave sat me down in thechair and trimmed the beard up,
took probably three-fourths ofit down, which for me is pretty
significant.
This is the shortest that mybeard has been in years.
It's probably still longer thanthe average bear, but for me
(03:00):
it's pretty short and we had agreat time doing that project.
I won't give any spoilersbecause it hasn't.
The film hasn't been madepublic yet, but it was a
superhero support group and wehad a good time with it.
I made some new friends on thatproject, people I hadn't worked
with before and it was.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It was a lot of fun, awesome.
But you posted that Saturday.
You're like well, I neverthought I'd do it, but I'm
cutting a beard with no picture.
Your circle of friends lit itup.
I saw your post and they werelike you can't just drop that.
New People were panicking, theywere freaking out.
People were like wait what?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah.
So what I said was I prefacedit with y'all remember that time
on the podcast, I asked Hickwhat it would take for him to
cut his beard.
Well, now I know what it wouldtake for me and I left it at
that.
I didn't post a picture, Ididn't post a follow up and
people started texting me liketo my private phone number what,
(04:01):
how are you going to postsomething like that?
It wasn't five minutes and hicktexted me and other people were
hitting me up like wait, whatis this about?
What happened?
What'd you do?
I probably should have let it,let it soak overnight, but I
went ahead and broke my silenceand posted a picture.
It's not, it's not drastic, butit for me it was a pretty
(04:24):
significant change.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I didn't realize how much they had cut, because it's
still Santa Claus-y, yourmustache isn't white, but you
got the claws going on.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, if I straighten it with heat it's a little bit
longer, but when it's shorter itcurls up and it just makes it
look shorter than it is.
I'm liking it, though.
I mean, he did a nice, niceshape around my jawline.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
He edits movies and edits your face.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
He did edit my face.
He's the barber.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
If you need to contact us, we'll get you in
contact with him.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's right.
And speaking of sponsors, wewould just like to thank the Law
of Jana McCaffrey forsponsoring the show.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Thank you, Jana.
Thank you, Jana.
We know Jana from our 48 fromlast year.
Tj's told you about his 48.
Now I'm going to tell you aboutmine.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, let's hear about that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I got to play a cowboy thug.
You got to play a cowboy again.
Again.
Last year I was a bumblingsheriff and this time I'm a
bully cowboy.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Talk about extremes.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Just in one year we worked at the Wind Dancer Equine
Rescue Ranch, so Aubrey and I'msorry I can't remember your
last name at this moment rescueshorses and takes care of them.
There's donkeys, many donkeys,and she's got her dogs, so in
between every take you had someanimal to play with.
The donkeys were so sweet.
Had this little one walk up andhe just he didn't like run into
(05:52):
me, just walked up, put his headon my leg and waited to be
petted.
He was real sweet.
So where, where's that?
That is past Slidell, not allthe way to Mississippi, but
headed that way, so it's on yourneck of the woods, going north.
I gotcha, without givinganything away.
I got to play, like I said, abully and I saw an opportunity
(06:16):
to be a creep, kind of like thatstepdad role.
I did so In the scene I walk upto the person I bully and his
girlfriend, and I had the ideait wasn't totally in the script
and I asked her look, I'm notgoing to do anything very bad,
but can I drape my arm aroundyour shoulders?
Can I run my fingers throughyour hair if I do that, or touch
(06:36):
your shoulder, like?
I got permission, like if wehad an intimacy coordinator on
set.
Well, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So she said yeah, that's right On set, what we
didn't.
So she said, yeah, that's right.
That was some of the advicethat she gave us was to talk.
If you don't have an intimacycoordinator on set, talk it
through with your scene partner.
Yeah, just like an improv, youtalk it through before to let
everyone know what you'recomfortable and not comfortable
with.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And that was Ashley Landry on.
Her episode should be coming upsoon.
See a couple of weeks.
So she said yes, and I come inand I'm trying to edit myself so
I don't give anything away.
But I lean over and I say mylines and I, you know, play with
my hair, play with her hair, Idon't play with mine.
And then you say cut.
And then the room went oh, andthe lady shuddered.
(07:24):
And you can tell when theenergy of a scene touches people
.
That's a really weird way toput it after talking about that,
but their excitement was likethey couldn't stop talking.
You know what I mean and I wasreally proud of that moment.
Maybe I shouldn't be proud,whatever word.
It felt good and that's that'smy favorite scene in that show.
So hopefully it's called ThreeWise Men.
(07:46):
Hopefully it'll be out soon.
It may go to other festivals.
A 48-hour film is four to sevenminutes, not counting credits.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
We pretty much had a 12 to 15-minute film, so then
that has to be cut down.
So, since if we plan to take itto other festivals and you have
to get a permission of the 48film festival for a year, it
will not come out on YouTubebecause you can't share it
before you go to other festivals.
Right, at some point we willshare that with the public and I
(08:15):
can't wait for you all to seeit.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And I think you have to leave.
I think you have to leave thesection about it being part of
the 48 hour film project inthere.
I don't know if it's only forthat.
I don't, I haven't researchedit enough to know if it's only
for that first year, or if it'sforever.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think it's for one year, cause we were talking
about that last year with umwaiting for good toe.
Oh, I got you.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, a 12 to 15 minute director's cut of that
film.
I yeah, a 12 to 15 minutedirector's cut of that film.
I would like to see that, metoo, and I'd like us.
I really enjoyed your film.
I don't know everybody that wasin that film, but I thought
everybody did a great job.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Thank you.
Like I said, I loved your film.
It was concise and it held thestory so well and I think that's
what we lacked.
I'm sorry to say that publiclyand that happens.
That happened a little bit.
On Waiting for Good Toe, we hadabout a 10 minute film.
We had to drop down Like ourhero.
There wanted to be more shotsof him walking alone to show how
(09:18):
lonely he was.
Well, he had to abandon that.
You know, I love what we havethere, but now I love making 48
hour films in the seven andseven.
That's great.
Let's go make some films wherewe can take our time you know
what I mean when we can plan itout a little more and do what we
want to take two or three takes, you know, get the close up
this time did.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
He wanted a lot more intimate shots, a lot closer up
shots, character development,because just like the 48, you
only have up to seven minutes totell that story.
So he did a lot of close up andsingle light work, something
that I'm noticing with thesefilms.
You mentioned having to cut itdown from 12 or 15 minutes.
I find that if the scriptstarts out longer than seven
(10:10):
pages it's about a page a minutefor film it's harder to cut
that down and harder to makethat story flow and be more
concise when you have morescript, versus filming more
takes and you know longersequences and then cutting.
If you keep the script tight tobe within that four to seven
(10:34):
minute window, it's a littleeasier to keep it concise, at
least from what I'm seeing fromwatching filmmakers that I've
worked with I agree, I agreetotally.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But sometimes the creative process doesn't allow
you to stop at seven.
Yeah, I agree, you've got thisoutline.
I know where I want the storyto go.
I want this to happen, you know, and there was footage that we
shot that wasn't essential tothe story, but it was very cool
and I've got the chopping block.
So a couple of my cast mateslike their scenes got cut off.
(11:06):
Uh, luckily for me, I was inthe lead and I'm bullying the
protagonist.
I wasn't going anywhere, youknow that's, but I still felt
bad for them.
You know what I mean.
I want everybody to have theirchance to shine.
Can't always do it.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But you do look good in gold, my friend.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We just want to give you a little taste of our
48-hour experience, a littlesous-sant, a little touch.
And on Thursday, august 14th,if you're in the New Orleans
area, the finalists for theAudience Award 12 films will be
shown at the Broad Theater andthen you can help vote on it.
We don't know when.
The finals are probably a weekor two after that, and then
(11:46):
we'll find out and at some pointthey're going to announce the
nominees Best actor, bestpicture.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
As of this recording, we don't have the date for the
finals yet, or the nominees, butit usually does come out before
the second screening.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So we should, within the next few days, know
something.
We should Not that awards areimportant, but they are fun.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
They are fun.
I like the networking, gettingto meet the other teams and talk
about their films, and I'vebeen able to get involved with
other projects for meetingpeople at the 48 and 7 and 7
events.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So that's always I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I've always had a good time with it.
I look forward to it.
It just feels cool to go inthere and see yourself on the
big screen and then see all ofyour friends in their films on
the big screen as well.
So it's always a good timeAgreed and it's a good
experience.
So if you haven't gotteninvolved with a 48, I highly
recommend it Coming soon to atown near you.
(12:46):
All right, folks, we'll see younext time.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
See you later.
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