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Ever notice how the best performances feel unforced, like the camera just wandered into a real moment? That’s the core of our time with actor and coach Dean West, who makes a compelling case that presence beats performance every time. We dig into the gritty, practical habits that keep you human on set—then pair them with simple mindset drills that turn nerves into fuel.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Oh, my name is Dean West, and I am an actor for way
too long.
And I think that was at birth.
I've been coaching people for alot longer, I think, mentally,
maybe spiritually.
And then I do a lot of all kindsof weird stuff in between from
here to here, from likeconsulting business coaches to
all kinds of other stuff andmarketing.
And I'm a dad.
(00:21):
Mostly just dad now.
And I am fuctubulated to be onNOLA film scene.
unknown (00:29):
Fuctubulated.
SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
Welcome to NOLA Film Scene with TJ Play-Doh.
I'm TJ.
And as always, I'm Play-Hoh.
SPEAKER_00 (00:38):
Nice.
Sounds good?
Factubulated?
That's a word.
Is that a new one?
SPEAKER_02 (00:42):
I've never heard that one.
SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
I if I had to like decide what it means, I would
assume there's something betweenlike, you know those tube slides
that you get on at the waterparks?
Yeah.
And maybe having sex on the waydown.
I don't know if that's did youy'all didn't say if this was PG,
did you?
We can put the E on the up andthen.
SPEAKER_01 (01:03):
Yeah, we just had an E.
Toggle on the explicit.
SPEAKER_00 (01:08):
I apologize ahead of time for what might come out of
my mouth.
SPEAKER_01 (01:10):
I bet you're fun at Scrabble.
SPEAKER_00 (01:14):
Uh people are break the rules.
SPEAKER_01 (01:16):
Is that a word?
Yeah, that's a problem.
People, I mean, you're notsupposed to look stuff.
People are Googling, like, hejust said, did he say that?
Really?
SPEAKER_00 (01:26):
I feel like I have that in scene work sometimes.
Dean, don't you know thisstuff's pre-written before you
got here?
Like they told me.
They told me I could saywhatever from here to here.
So I just didn't know.
SPEAKER_02 (01:38):
You're just channeling Sid Caesar with his
double talk.
SPEAKER_00 (01:40):
Sometimes that's the problem, is like if you've met
me on I've I've ran into peoplefrom different movies and like
on a brand new movie that I'veprobably spent months with them
on one film, and then I met themagain doing whatever this next
one is.
And we're like two or threeweeks in.
They're like, are you the sameDean West that was on?
Yeah.
(02:02):
Wow.
You've changed.
I'm working.
I don't know what to tell you.
SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
I've just let a little more of me out.
SPEAKER_00 (02:09):
And speaking of that, welcome to the podcast,
Dean West.
Thank you.
Pleasure, guys.
TJ was asking, he was like,Yeah, you know, I just uh we
started working together, and Ididn't want to like just ask you
if you'd come on the podcast.
I didn't want you to think I wascoming to work with you for
that.
And I was like, you know, I'm alittle butthurt that it took you
so long to even ask me, to behonest.
SPEAKER_02 (02:26):
TJ is a little more reserved than I am.
I I am uh definitely word salad,if not word vomit.
But to give you an example, uh,I was in Bill and Ted's face of
music.
TJ, I had to get it out of theway.
And I was Dad's photo double, soI wanted to get William Sadler
on.
He's been very nice on you knowsocial media.
And I Facebook messaged him, hesaid, sure.
(02:48):
And then it came out.
Okay, we can do this, we can dothis, and then we can have you
on a heat.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
Whoa.
Radio silence.
And so I messaged TJ.
I said, it was like a few dayslater.
I think I did it again.
SPEAKER_01 (03:00):
He sent me the screenshots.
Oh.
SPEAKER_02 (03:04):
And I get, and when you type, it's a certain tone,
but I could I could feel it.
He was like, Well, you know,Brian, you have to calm down.
You can't push him with.
I said, I know, TJ, I know.
And a couple months later, I gota message from William, and he
said, he said to call him Bill.
It's still hard for me to callhim Bill.
Oh, I'm sorry, it took me solong, this, this, or this
happened.
Let's do it.
And so I went, okay, cool.
And then I screenshot it, saidTJ, sent it, and he goes, I'm
(03:28):
sorry.
I said, I gotta be me.
SPEAKER_00 (03:30):
It's either that or he just took enough time that
like work slowed down.
He's like, I'm really bored.
Oh, I remember this thing.
It took him a while to read it.
I'll read that later.
I mean, you know, sometimes it'sthe it's the making yourself
stop that gives them enough timeto go.
SPEAKER_02 (03:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (03:47):
Yeah.
You know?
The talking and listening part.
SPEAKER_02 (03:51):
Holding the tension of a scene.
If I could only do that in lifeand in a scene, I'd be great.
SPEAKER_00 (03:55):
You'd be surprised on like, you know, obviously the
the coach and me.
Anytime I start with someonenew, and this is when I used to
have like the full studio buildout here in New Orleans.
And uh if you came in and knewthe class, you know, we'd be
doing whatever it was you werein that week, maybe technique or
whatever.
And uh you'd be your turn and belike, look, come on and come
have a seat.
I'll just put a chair up on thefront.
Okay.
(04:20):
What do you want to do?
Uh do you want you wanna likeyou wanna do like a monologue?
Do you wanna no just just relaxfor a second?
Right, but like do you want meto do you wanna just chill?
Take it in.
(04:42):
Um take what do you mean what doyou mean what do you mean to do
though?
Like this is weird sitting uphere, isn't it?
And just letting people sit,like you cannot imagine how
uncomfortable people are withthemselves.
Part of that process, like onceyou get on the other side of
like, oh, I can hear methinking, and that also gives
(05:02):
you the ability to go, that's adumb thought, don't say it.
The same with dialogue, is likeyou're sitting there for a while
and you can listen to someonetalking, or your mind goes to my
next line, my next line, this ismy next line.
And then it comes out in thisweird fucking way that you
didn't plan because you you weretrying to run it in your head,
like, how should I do that?
And the whole time the otherperson's just talking, in which
(05:25):
case you're not listening, andthen all of a sudden they say it
in a way that you, of course,did not plan, and then you said
it the way you planned, and theother person's like, huh.
That was an interesting choice.
unknown (05:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:39):
Because you know, you just blurt out the thing
that your mind was rummingthrough the whole time.
So it's always funny to me towatch people when they first
start doing this, it's like,just sit with you.
Because most entertainers oractors start this thinking, oh,
I get to not be me.
There's no escaping that man.
SPEAKER_01 (05:58):
See, I already know that's if if I needed to get
Brian to confess, that's what Iwould do.
I wouldn't have to torture him.
I'd just make him sit.
Just sit.
Just sit in silence.
Yeah.
Be with yourself for a minute,and it would just he would just
start talking.
It would just come out.
SPEAKER_02 (06:17):
Have you heard of that room that is totally
silent?
SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
Yep.
Deprivation can't chamber.
It's uh oh, I just heard uh Ihad the word just the other day.
It's a echoterry chamber orsomething like that.
SPEAKER_00 (06:33):
Sensory deprivation chamber.
SPEAKER_02 (06:35):
Yeah, but it's it's it's a big room, it's got all
the sound baffles or whatever itis, yeah, and there's no noise.
So yeah.
Explain it, but the challenge isif you can spend a night in
there, they will give you amillion a million dollars.
SPEAKER_01 (06:52):
What?
Most people don't last.
SPEAKER_00 (06:56):
You can scream and it doesn't Where do I sign up?
That sounds like a vacation.
SPEAKER_02 (07:02):
Nobody's last past an hour.
I'm still down.
And they hallucinate.
SPEAKER_00 (07:07):
Oh my god, I get pleasure.
Go on.
SPEAKER_02 (07:09):
With no input of any sound, your mind starts creating
things.
And I'm like, let me do it.
I'll start talking to myself.
Give me that million dollars.
But right?
Yeah, it would probably drive mecrazy or drive me more crazy,
which I'm fine with.
SPEAKER_00 (07:23):
You know, I'm I don't know.
I've got a five-year-old, soI've you you just explained like
the perfect vacation.
I love her, but she is me allover again.
And I was explaining TJ theother day of like her, do you
remember the episode of FamilyGuy where he hits his knee and
it's like ah yeah, like a goodfive minutes.
(07:45):
If you somewhat look like I didsomething entertaining, oh,
we're gonna keep doing it untilit's done.
And then you're gonna be like,it's we're good.
She's the exact same.
So Michelle's just like, oh mygod.
And my my full name is NormanDean West Jr., so I can hear her
in the living room sometime.
Norma, stop.
SPEAKER_02 (08:07):
I'm like I'm like that too.
Uh once I can make my wife wifelaugh, I can't stop.
So we're watching one of theTransformers movies with uh oh,
I just blanked on his name.
Come on.
Shiny Boston guy.
Shiny LaBeauf?
No, no, no.
The later.
Um Boogie Nights.
SPEAKER_00 (08:24):
Oh, Mm mm.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, I'm thinking of this is likesexy time when he's gonna be
able to get away.
Mikey Mike.
Marky Marky Mark.
Mark Mike, Marky Mark, Mark.
Which he'd kill us to say that.
We're gonna get thereeventually.
SPEAKER_02 (08:36):
But he goes, hey, look, it's a transformer.
And I turn and say that to her,and she starts cracking up, and
I was like, oh boy, here we go.
We're in.
Five seconds, transformer.
I think he transformed.
I had it for a good hour andthen it stops.
So I'm the same way.
I've got it buried into theground, but that immediate joy,
especially with my wife, becausemostly I get this.
(09:00):
Which you can't see, folks, ifyou're just listening.
Eye roll.
My wife has the strongest eyesafter listening to all my jokes
from all the work out her eyesget.
SPEAKER_00 (09:08):
But after a period of time, it's like, oh, you
heard that one?
SPEAKER_01 (09:11):
Yeah.
unknown (09:11):
Dang.
SPEAKER_00 (09:12):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (09:12):
Uh so it's called an anechoic chamber.
SPEAKER_00 (09:15):
Oh, okay.
This is yeah, that's a wholenother level.
SPEAKER_01 (09:17):
Yeah, anechoic chamber, and it has a rating of
negative 20 decibels, and theysay it's v it's unsettling and
overwhelming to people becauseuh you hear your own body sounds
like your heartbeat, and all ofthat is amplified because
there's nothing else going on,and your mind, I guess,
(09:37):
apparently starts playing trickson you.
SPEAKER_00 (09:40):
I'd still love to give it a shot.
SPEAKER_02 (09:42):
I want to do it too.
SPEAKER_00 (09:45):
Or DJ hasn't made him yet, but uh in what we'll
talk about later, but in Tilt wehave like the first your Monday,
we have a Monday morningmindset, and the first thing
have you ever gone, you everheard of Wim Hof?
So Wim Hof is they they've he'stermed as the Iceman because he
like takes people to likeliterally just in their shorts,
go jog up, you know, mountainswhen it's freezing.
But he does a Wim Hof breathingtechnique, and anybody that's
(10:07):
done class with me knows a wherewe do these, and most people I
tell them just do like fivebreaths when you're first
starting, but you get to kind ofwork your way to like 20, and
it's uh and then when you get toyour 20th, blow it all out, and
then you hold your breath aslong as you can, and then you
(10:27):
expand the stomach and hold thatas long as you can, and it just
shoots tons of oxygen, it justoxidates your body a lot.
So you have tons of oxygen goingto your brain, and then when you
let it go, slow, let it all thebreath out, and then you kind of
just close your eyes, relax, andlet your body find its own
heartbeat and just listen to therhythm.
And that's part of our morningkind of wake up is doing that,
(10:48):
and you're just listening toeyes closed, listen to heartbeat
feels.
Because to me, again, back toacting, if I can get you to the
present moment, then you don'tturn on when someone says
action, and all of a sudden yoube a an actor weirdo.
You stay the human that you are,and all of a sudden we can
actually have a realconversation that everyone else
(11:08):
is going, Did we say action?
Is this part of the lines?
And no one knows because you'restill a human.
And all of a sudden it's like,that was great.
What just happened?
I'm not really sure.
I don't I don't know.
Because I wasn't I wasn't Iwasn't directing, and I think
most actors get stuck in thedirector mind so quickly.
(11:29):
And you know, you think aboutit, like we have if you go back
and watch auditions 15 years agobefore we everyone was on
self-tapes and all this, wedidn't have so many just
audition classes that wereself-tape awareness.
So people weren't sitting thereinitially going, Oh God, I do
that, I do this, oh my god, I dothat, I do that, oh my god.
(11:50):
And instead of like mentallytrying to direct themselves to
not you know, do whatever thething is they do way too many
times.
This became a a director POV forthem.
So now they all of a sudden arelooking from camera, watching
themselves while being in thescene of going, don't blink too
(12:10):
much.
And then they got weird.
Versus back in the day, yourawareness happened because you
slowly just sunk more and moreinto just being present with the
work, doing scene study, doingwhatever.
You know, I I was never able towatch myself in classes and and
scene study doing stuff.
I just knew what the musclememory was of being present
(12:31):
enough that I completely forgotthat the class was sitting
there, the lights were here, theyou know, cameras filming on
this side or whatever.
I was so honed into me and thisother human being being in the
present moment together thatthere was no like you didn't
question your brain of going,well, would the character do it
that way?
I fuck, you're here.
(12:51):
What would you do?
Do it, do it.
Don't ask what you would do,would do just do.
And we're gonna see it all of asudden and be like, wow, that
was cool.
And then afterwards, someonewill go, hey, do you remember
blah blah blah?
I don't remember anything fromthat.
Good.
unknown (13:10):
Good.
SPEAKER_00 (13:10):
That's what it's supposed to feel like.
But I don't feel like I wasentertaining.
Good.
You are a human.
You don't walk around like inthe in you know the grocery
store, like, watch me pick upthis mango.
Mango, right?
SPEAKER_02 (13:24):
Like I do that, but that's just me.
That's I mean that's normal.
SPEAKER_00 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah.
Mango.
Now people do it, but it's likewhile they're doing it, like
self to selfie.
Mmm, mango.
You know, totally differentthings.
SPEAKER_02 (13:36):
Insta.
SPEAKER_00 (13:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (13:38):
I will admit, because I was in grammar school
in the 70s.
I was doing the Truman show andselfies before we had selfies
and the Truman show.
I just always knew there was acamera.
I mean, I just flash back tothat.
Just oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:50):
That's my favorite.
I invented selfies, actually.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (13:53):
I used to be a few.
I just assume you were thereteaching.
It's my assumptions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
unknown (14:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:06):
I, you know, the you remember the little you could
buy the instant, not instant,but the Fulleroids.
The the camera that you actuallyturn the camera in and get it
developed.
Yeah.
Disposable cameras.
At the end of every role, Iwould do that.
Before there was a name for it,I would I would hold it out and
take a picture of it.
I've got a ton of them.
It's pretty funny.
SPEAKER_00 (14:26):
Over the years.
You should get put like a just abig uh mural on the wall of
those.
Just selfies, yeah.
Yeah, you over the years.
That'd be great.
SPEAKER_02 (14:33):
I have one from the 80s.
It's not a selfie, but it's abathroom mirror selfie.
And I had a full new wave flockof seagulls here.
Nice.
It's long gone and I miss it.
I always went into Mohawk, and Ijust can't, as people can see if
when this comes out on video.
SPEAKER_00 (14:51):
If you dig deep enough, you'll find so I when I
first got in the industry, I wasdoing like modeling and fitness
stuff back in the day.
And uh then when I moved to LAwhile while training and all
that from the acting stuff, Istarted uh I had someone sucker
me into joining a boy band.
Um and it was like we wentthere.
SPEAKER_01 (15:10):
That's what I was expecting.
SPEAKER_00 (15:12):
Yeah.
So uh Hillary and Haley Duff'smanager had convinced me and a
friend of mine that he did musicand stuff, so we got into the
boy band because I was doing hiphop at the time, but you can
find photos because I used torock cornrows back in the day
while we were doing hip-hopbecause my hair was like all
kinds of cray, so it was easy tokind of keep it out of the way.
SPEAKER_02 (15:28):
I was gonna say you have the right stuff until the
cornrows.
No, sorry.
Now it's bye, bye, bye.
Okay, I did it.
I said it.
SPEAKER_01 (15:35):
That was nice.
You know, I'm a masterresearcher.
I'm gonna find those pictures.
It's probably not too far.
SPEAKER_02 (15:42):
Did did you see the documentary on InSync and the uh
New Kids on the Block abouttheir manager?
It's on Netflix and it goesthrough all the the stuff he
did.
But and I like that music.
I didn't buy any albums, so youthat in my defense.
No, wait.
Afterwards, I just kept walkingaround and again saying to my
wife, Dirty Pop.
SPEAKER_00 (16:05):
Like, oh boy, that thing came on, just say bye to
Dean.
He's gonna be out on the flow.
You'd be surprised.
That was a hip hop.
Fine picture.
SPEAKER_01 (16:13):
Fine Dean Dean Boy band days.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (16:18):
We will search it and pop it into the video.
We're gonna promote the episodewith this.
SPEAKER_00 (16:23):
There we go.
I just became famous.
SPEAKER_01 (16:26):
What what was the name?
What was the name of the band?
SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
I don't know.
I couldn't tell you.
Don't know what you're talkingabout anymore.
Dementia.
Early.
SPEAKER_02 (16:37):
You know, when you resist, it makes it that much
worse.
SPEAKER_00 (16:39):
You should just go with the I want him to have fun
searching.
I want him to go down and GoogleRabbit.
That's kind of fun.
I probably should have gave youstraight access to it because
now you're gonna find I'mthere's some I'm an interesting
human being.
Let's just say that.
I've I have lived plenty oflives, my friends.
That's funny.
Yeah, I moved to Los Angeleswhen I was um 18 or 19, one or
the other.
(17:00):
And yeah, I yeah, we did we didall kinds of crazy stuff.
Thank God I always look back atlike, you know, now times and
I'm like, man, I'm glad youweren't around.
SPEAKER_02 (17:12):
That's why I'm nodding my head.
Like, yep.
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (17:15):
So what what got you going with it in the first place
before before the boy band days?
SPEAKER_00 (17:22):
Don't call it that.
Um so when I I was probably Imean, I was a kid, and I
remember being like five or six,somewhere in there, and we had
just got like the VHS kind oftape thing where you could, you
know, record that way.
SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:38):
And my sister and I, I would like make her do like
commercials and shit with me.
And I always remember the onewith like a road rate ro uh ro
Roach rate spray, and we werelike doing like the commercials
for that in between.
And I mostly remember because Isprayed that shit at one point.
That's when my mom was like,nope, we're done, no more of
these things.
(17:58):
But you know, it was always justentertaining to me then because
again, it's the same thing thatgoes back to I saw someone
giggle and I made you smile.
You got something from me thatmade you feel good.
Oh, where do I sign up?
I want to do that.
Like, I want to see people smileall the time.
(18:19):
So it was just like an immediateassigning that someone put the
hat on, was like, all right,this is what Dean's doing.
To the point that I think by myI was maybe 13 or 14 and did
like some of those like youknow, pro scout kind of things
where it's like, oh, modelsearch, acting search.
And you know, I had an I had anagent in like LA and New York
which did jack shit for a childin Louisiana that wasn't going
(18:41):
to LA or New York.
And I remember I remember inlike middle school that I was
like, and this was you know, mygirlfriend's family, look, we're
um we should probably break up.
Cause I moved to Los Angeles andI'm gonna be an actor, you know,
and uh, you know, you probablycan't come when I moved there.
(19:01):
So we should probably just callit now.
I didn't move for like anotherfive years or something.
But, you know, at the time I wasmy head was already like I was
already creating this future,this manifestation was done for
me.
So I started like uh I find Iended up finding an agency in
Houston that turned out mycousin, or you know, I call him
uncle because the agedifference, please, my cousin,
(19:22):
brought me over there and I didlike one class with uh a lady
named Karen Karen Gourmet thatwas doing a lot of casting out
of out of Houston at the time.
And after we finished, it waskind of like a commercial
audition and she messed up.
At the end of the audition, shewas like, Dean, you are so
funny, and I mean you're you'relike really talented.
This if you've never takenclasses, why why aren't you why
aren't you acting?
(19:42):
People want to hear me talk.
Okay.
Sure, we can do that.
And then that my cousin theregot resume set up and helped me
out, you know, the headshots,all that kind of stuff, which
you can find those too.
And started doing, you know,modeling and stuff like that.
I was doing some of those likesports modeling stuff.
I was on all like the academygear back in the day.
(20:04):
And uh, I think my firstcommercial was a Chef Boy RD
commercial, was also the firsttime I realized that there is a
bucket underneath the table fora reason, and nobody told me.
SPEAKER_02 (20:17):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00 (20:18):
I haven't touched Chef Boy RD since.
It was my favorite at the time.
Wow.
But man.
I just remember like finishingone of the cuts and was like
cut, and I was like, okay.
I sat back and the sound guy douh there's a bucket down there
if you need to you know spitthat out after every take.
(20:40):
What?
That's what that's for?
Have you been eating all ofthat?
Mm-hmm.
Oh yeah.
He was like, Yeah, just justspit it out now.
So I learned early about that.
Once was enough.
That national commercial, whichback in the day, I think, ah
god, by the time that thing wasdone, I think I probably racked
(21:01):
up probably 50k on a chefboyardie commercial at the age
of like 16 or something.
So that is what gave me enoughto be like, all right, cool.
I'm I'm gonna move to LosAngeles when when it hits time.
And I moved out there then.
Nice.
SPEAKER_02 (21:16):
Yeah.
God bless the chef.
SPEAKER_00 (21:18):
Yeah.
Of the boy are Dean.
SPEAKER_02 (21:24):
I haven't had the food thing.
I did one night in Miami and Iwas front row, right in front of
the stars.
So Malcolm X is right behind me.
So I am not gonna move.
And they started handing outthose paper cigarettes, and I
quit in '98.
So it wouldn't have been aproblem, but I was like, I'm
good.
Because I knew every take theywere gonna get a new one, and
people are gonna be inhaling,and by the end of the 14-hour
(21:44):
day, they want to be sick asdogs.
Yeah.
Not me.
I did have the secondhand papersmoke, but you know, we won't go
into that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:52):
Yeah, it's like I mean, it's like the eating thing
in a scene.
The you can always tell likesomeone's brand new that's never
done a an eating scene beforebecause they go for it and
you're like, so so slow down inbetween, like when you're doing
the take, maybe give yourself belike you're just finishing a
bite to get yourself rolling,maybe.
That way you're not eating everytake.
Oh no, I'm fine.
It's my it's my character.
Okay, okay.
(22:14):
Character, do it.
And then by like, you know,fourth or fifth take, because
there was again, you're talkingabout a table where we had like
six people at the table, sowe've got close-ups all the way
around.
Yeah, and we got mediums all theway around.
We got two shots, we got wives,we got so much stuff that we're
gonna be covering.
That I'm like, you're not and Iknow, you know, once you've done
(22:37):
this long enough, you're like, Iknow what I know what lens we're
on.
I'm not, I'm if you're in an 85,I'm not in this shot, so I'm
forking it, right?
And then newer actress, sameperson I was mentioning, I was
like, Don't just wait.
If it's especially if it's not,you're not on camera right now.
I said, Yeah, but I just wantto, just in case.
Do it.
I'm forking his full mouth.
(22:59):
I'm like, he's gonna be so sick.
And oh yeah.
By the time we took break, hedidn't eat lunch.
He was just like, I'm gonnaskip.
I'm gonna ask nope, didn't touchlunch.
Just had some coffee.
SPEAKER_02 (23:09):
TJ, he he talks more than me.
I don't know, I don't know.
What are we gonna do?
How do we get him to stop?
SPEAKER_01 (23:13):
I'll just hit stop.
unknown (23:16):
Cool.
SPEAKER_02 (23:16):
Let's bring him back for part two.
What do you think?
SPEAKER_01 (23:21):
Fine.
SPEAKER_02 (23:23):
It's a lot, but I you know, I don't I think he's
got more to say.
So come and join us next week,folks, for part two.
Oh, my name is Dean West, and I am an actor for way
too long.
And I think that was at birth.
I've been coaching people for alot longer, I think, mentally,
maybe spiritually.
And then I do a lot of all kindsof weird stuff in between from
here to here, from likeconsulting business coaches to
all kinds of other stuff andmarketing.
And I'm a dad.
(00:21):
Mostly just dad now.
And I am fuctubulated to be onNOLA film scene.
unknown (00:29):
Fuctubulated.
SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
Welcome to NOLA Film Scene with TJ Play-Doh.
I'm TJ.
And as always, I'm Play-Hoh.
SPEAKER_00 (00:38):
Nice.
Sounds good?
Factubulated?
That's a word.
Is that a new one?
SPEAKER_02 (00:42):
I've never heard that one.
SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
I if I had to like decide what it means, I would
assume there's something betweenlike, you know those tube slides
that you get on at the waterparks?
Yeah.
And maybe having sex on the waydown.
I don't know if that's did youy'all didn't say if this was PG,
did you?
We can put the E on the up andthen.
SPEAKER_01 (01:03):
Yeah, we just had an E.
Toggle on the explicit.
SPEAKER_00 (01:08):
I apologize ahead of time for what might come out of
my mouth.
SPEAKER_01 (01:10):
I bet you're fun at Scrabble.
SPEAKER_00 (01:14):
Uh people are break the rules.
SPEAKER_01 (01:16):
Is that a word?
Yeah, that's a problem.
People, I mean, you're notsupposed to look stuff.
People are Googling, like, hejust said, did he say that?
Really?
SPEAKER_00 (01:26):
I feel like I have that in scene work sometimes.
Dean, don't you know thisstuff's pre-written before you
got here?
Like they told me.
They told me I could saywhatever from here to here.
So I just didn't know.
SPEAKER_02 (01:38):
You're just channeling Sid Caesar with his
double talk.
SPEAKER_00 (01:40):
Sometimes that's the problem, is like if you've met
me on I've I've ran into peoplefrom different movies and like
on a brand new movie that I'veprobably spent months with them
on one film, and then I met themagain doing whatever this next
one is.
And we're like two or threeweeks in.
They're like, are you the sameDean West that was on?
Yeah.
(02:02):
Wow.
You've changed.
I'm working.
I don't know what to tell you.
SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
I've just let a little more of me out.
SPEAKER_00 (02:09):
And speaking of that, welcome to the podcast,
Dean West.
Thank you.
Pleasure, guys.
TJ was asking, he was like,Yeah, you know, I just uh we
started working together, and Ididn't want to like just ask you
if you'd come on the podcast.
I didn't want you to think I wascoming to work with you for
that.
And I was like, you know, I'm alittle butthurt that it took you
so long to even ask me, to behonest.
SPEAKER_02 (02:26):
TJ is a little more reserved than I am.
I I am uh definitely word salad,if not word vomit.
But to give you an example, uh,I was in Bill and Ted's face of
music.
TJ, I had to get it out of theway.
And I was Dad's photo double, soI wanted to get William Sadler
on.
He's been very nice on you knowsocial media.
And I Facebook messaged him, hesaid, sure.
(02:48):
And then it came out.
Okay, we can do this, we can dothis, and then we can have you
on a heat.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
Whoa.
Radio silence.
And so I messaged TJ.
I said, it was like a few dayslater.
I think I did it again.
SPEAKER_01 (03:00):
He sent me the screenshots.
Oh.
SPEAKER_02 (03:04):
And I get, and when you type, it's a certain tone,
but I could I could feel it.
He was like, Well, you know,Brian, you have to calm down.
You can't push him with.
I said, I know, TJ, I know.
And a couple months later, I gota message from William, and he
said, he said to call him Bill.
It's still hard for me to callhim Bill.
Oh, I'm sorry, it took me solong, this, this, or this
happened.
Let's do it.
And so I went, okay, cool.
And then I screenshot it, saidTJ, sent it, and he goes, I'm
(03:28):
sorry.
I said, I gotta be me.
SPEAKER_00 (03:30):
It's either that or he just took enough time that
like work slowed down.
He's like, I'm really bored.
Oh, I remember this thing.
It took him a while to read it.
I'll read that later.
I mean, you know, sometimes it'sthe it's the making yourself
stop that gives them enough timeto go.
SPEAKER_02 (03:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (03:47):
Yeah.
You know?
The talking and listening part.
SPEAKER_02 (03:51):
Holding the tension of a scene.
If I could only do that in lifeand in a scene, I'd be great.
SPEAKER_00 (03:55):
You'd be surprised on like, you know, obviously the
the coach and me.
Anytime I start with someonenew, and this is when I used to
have like the full studio buildout here in New Orleans.
And uh if you came in and knewthe class, you know, we'd be
doing whatever it was you werein that week, maybe technique or
whatever.
And uh you'd be your turn and belike, look, come on and come
have a seat.
I'll just put a chair up on thefront.
Okay.
(04:20):
What do you want to do?
Uh do you want you wanna likeyou wanna do like a monologue?
Do you wanna no just just relaxfor a second?
Right, but like do you want meto do you wanna just chill?
Take it in.
(04:42):
Um take what do you mean what doyou mean what do you mean to do
though?
Like this is weird sitting uphere, isn't it?
And just letting people sit,like you cannot imagine how
uncomfortable people are withthemselves.
Part of that process, like onceyou get on the other side of
like, oh, I can hear methinking, and that also gives
(05:02):
you the ability to go, that's adumb thought, don't say it.
The same with dialogue, is likeyou're sitting there for a while
and you can listen to someonetalking, or your mind goes to my
next line, my next line, this ismy next line.
And then it comes out in thisweird fucking way that you
didn't plan because you you weretrying to run it in your head,
like, how should I do that?
And the whole time the otherperson's just talking, in which
(05:25):
case you're not listening, andthen all of a sudden they say it
in a way that you, of course,did not plan, and then you said
it the way you planned, and theother person's like, huh.
That was an interesting choice.
unknown (05:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:39):
Because you know, you just blurt out the thing
that your mind was rummingthrough the whole time.
So it's always funny to me towatch people when they first
start doing this, it's like,just sit with you.
Because most entertainers oractors start this thinking, oh,
I get to not be me.
There's no escaping that man.
SPEAKER_01 (05:58):
See, I already know that's if if I needed to get
Brian to confess, that's what Iwould do.
I wouldn't have to torture him.
I'd just make him sit.
Just sit.
Just sit in silence.
Yeah.
Be with yourself for a minute,and it would just he would just
start talking.
It would just come out.
SPEAKER_02 (06:17):
Have you heard of that room that is totally
silent?
SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
Yep.
Deprivation can't chamber.
It's uh oh, I just heard uh Ihad the word just the other day.
It's a echoterry chamber orsomething like that.
SPEAKER_00 (06:33):
Sensory deprivation chamber.
SPEAKER_02 (06:35):
Yeah, but it's it's it's a big room, it's got all
the sound baffles or whatever itis, yeah, and there's no noise.
So yeah.
Explain it, but the challenge isif you can spend a night in
there, they will give you amillion a million dollars.
SPEAKER_01 (06:52):
What?
Most people don't last.
SPEAKER_00 (06:56):
You can scream and it doesn't Where do I sign up?
That sounds like a vacation.
SPEAKER_02 (07:02):
Nobody's last past an hour.
I'm still down.
And they hallucinate.
SPEAKER_00 (07:07):
Oh my god, I get pleasure.
Go on.
SPEAKER_02 (07:09):
With no input of any sound, your mind starts creating
things.
And I'm like, let me do it.
I'll start talking to myself.
Give me that million dollars.
But right?
Yeah, it would probably drive mecrazy or drive me more crazy,
which I'm fine with.
SPEAKER_00 (07:23):
You know, I'm I don't know.
I've got a five-year-old, soI've you you just explained like
the perfect vacation.
I love her, but she is me allover again.
And I was explaining TJ theother day of like her, do you
remember the episode of FamilyGuy where he hits his knee and
it's like ah yeah, like a goodfive minutes.
(07:45):
If you somewhat look like I didsomething entertaining, oh,
we're gonna keep doing it untilit's done.
And then you're gonna be like,it's we're good.
She's the exact same.
So Michelle's just like, oh mygod.
And my my full name is NormanDean West Jr., so I can hear her
in the living room sometime.
Norma, stop.
SPEAKER_02 (08:07):
I'm like I'm like that too.
Uh once I can make my wife wifelaugh, I can't stop.
So we're watching one of theTransformers movies with uh oh,
I just blanked on his name.
Come on.
Shiny Boston guy.
Shiny LaBeauf?
No, no, no.
The later.
Um Boogie Nights.
SPEAKER_00 (08:24):
Oh, Mm mm.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, I'm thinking of this is likesexy time when he's gonna be
able to get away.
Mikey Mike.
Marky Marky Mark.
Mark Mike, Marky Mark, Mark.
Which he'd kill us to say that.
We're gonna get thereeventually.
SPEAKER_02 (08:36):
But he goes, hey, look, it's a transformer.
And I turn and say that to her,and she starts cracking up, and
I was like, oh boy, here we go.
We're in.
Five seconds, transformer.
I think he transformed.
I had it for a good hour andthen it stops.
So I'm the same way.
I've got it buried into theground, but that immediate joy,
especially with my wife, becausemostly I get this.
(09:00):
Which you can't see, folks, ifyou're just listening.
Eye roll.
My wife has the strongest eyesafter listening to all my jokes
from all the work out her eyesget.
SPEAKER_00 (09:08):
But after a period of time, it's like, oh, you
heard that one?
SPEAKER_01 (09:11):
Yeah.
unknown (09:11):
Dang.
SPEAKER_00 (09:12):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (09:12):
Uh so it's called an anechoic chamber.
SPEAKER_00 (09:15):
Oh, okay.
This is yeah, that's a wholenother level.
SPEAKER_01 (09:17):
Yeah, anechoic chamber, and it has a rating of
negative 20 decibels, and theysay it's v it's unsettling and
overwhelming to people becauseuh you hear your own body sounds
like your heartbeat, and all ofthat is amplified because
there's nothing else going on,and your mind, I guess,
(09:37):
apparently starts playing trickson you.
SPEAKER_00 (09:40):
I'd still love to give it a shot.
SPEAKER_02 (09:42):
I want to do it too.
SPEAKER_00 (09:45):
Or DJ hasn't made him yet, but uh in what we'll
talk about later, but in Tilt wehave like the first your Monday,
we have a Monday morningmindset, and the first thing
have you ever gone, you everheard of Wim Hof?
So Wim Hof is they they've he'stermed as the Iceman because he
like takes people to likeliterally just in their shorts,
go jog up, you know, mountainswhen it's freezing.
But he does a Wim Hof breathingtechnique, and anybody that's
(10:07):
done class with me knows a wherewe do these, and most people I
tell them just do like fivebreaths when you're first
starting, but you get to kind ofwork your way to like 20, and
it's uh and then when you get toyour 20th, blow it all out, and
then you hold your breath aslong as you can, and then you
(10:27):
expand the stomach and hold thatas long as you can, and it just
shoots tons of oxygen, it justoxidates your body a lot.
So you have tons of oxygen goingto your brain, and then when you
let it go, slow, let it all thebreath out, and then you kind of
just close your eyes, relax, andlet your body find its own
heartbeat and just listen to therhythm.
And that's part of our morningkind of wake up is doing that,
(10:48):
and you're just listening toeyes closed, listen to heartbeat
feels.
Because to me, again, back toacting, if I can get you to the
present moment, then you don'tturn on when someone says
action, and all of a sudden yoube a an actor weirdo.
You stay the human that you are,and all of a sudden we can
actually have a realconversation that everyone else
(11:08):
is going, Did we say action?
Is this part of the lines?
And no one knows because you'restill a human.
And all of a sudden it's like,that was great.
What just happened?
I'm not really sure.
I don't I don't know.
Because I wasn't I wasn't Iwasn't directing, and I think
most actors get stuck in thedirector mind so quickly.
(11:29):
And you know, you think aboutit, like we have if you go back
and watch auditions 15 years agobefore we everyone was on
self-tapes and all this, wedidn't have so many just
audition classes that wereself-tape awareness.
So people weren't sitting thereinitially going, Oh God, I do
that, I do this, oh my god, I dothat, I do that, oh my god.
(11:50):
And instead of like mentallytrying to direct themselves to
not you know, do whatever thething is they do way too many
times.
This became a a director POV forthem.
So now they all of a sudden arelooking from camera, watching
themselves while being in thescene of going, don't blink too
(12:10):
much.
And then they got weird.
Versus back in the day, yourawareness happened because you
slowly just sunk more and moreinto just being present with the
work, doing scene study, doingwhatever.
You know, I I was never able towatch myself in classes and and
scene study doing stuff.
I just knew what the musclememory was of being present
(12:31):
enough that I completely forgotthat the class was sitting
there, the lights were here, theyou know, cameras filming on
this side or whatever.
I was so honed into me and thisother human being being in the
present moment together thatthere was no like you didn't
question your brain of going,well, would the character do it
that way?
I fuck, you're here.
(12:51):
What would you do?
Do it, do it.
Don't ask what you would do,would do just do.
And we're gonna see it all of asudden and be like, wow, that
was cool.
And then afterwards, someonewill go, hey, do you remember
blah blah blah?
I don't remember anything fromthat.
Good.
unknown (13:10):
Good.
SPEAKER_00 (13:10):
That's what it's supposed to feel like.
But I don't feel like I wasentertaining.
Good.
You are a human.
You don't walk around like inthe in you know the grocery
store, like, watch me pick upthis mango.
Mango, right?
SPEAKER_02 (13:24):
Like I do that, but that's just me.
That's I mean that's normal.
SPEAKER_00 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah.
Mango.
Now people do it, but it's likewhile they're doing it, like
self to selfie.
Mmm, mango.
You know, totally differentthings.
SPEAKER_02 (13:36):
Insta.
SPEAKER_00 (13:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (13:38):
I will admit, because I was in grammar school
in the 70s.
I was doing the Truman show andselfies before we had selfies
and the Truman show.
I just always knew there was acamera.
I mean, I just flash back tothat.
Just oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:50):
That's my favorite.
I invented selfies, actually.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (13:53):
I used to be a few.
I just assume you were thereteaching.
It's my assumptions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
unknown (14:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:06):
I, you know, the you remember the little you could
buy the instant, not instant,but the Fulleroids.
The the camera that you actuallyturn the camera in and get it
developed.
Yeah.
Disposable cameras.
At the end of every role, Iwould do that.
Before there was a name for it,I would I would hold it out and
take a picture of it.
I've got a ton of them.
It's pretty funny.
SPEAKER_00 (14:26):
Over the years.
You should get put like a just abig uh mural on the wall of
those.
Just selfies, yeah.
Yeah, you over the years.
That'd be great.
SPEAKER_02 (14:33):
I have one from the 80s.
It's not a selfie, but it's abathroom mirror selfie.
And I had a full new wave flockof seagulls here.
Nice.
It's long gone and I miss it.
I always went into Mohawk, and Ijust can't, as people can see if
when this comes out on video.
SPEAKER_00 (14:51):
If you dig deep enough, you'll find so I when I
first got in the industry, I wasdoing like modeling and fitness
stuff back in the day.
And uh then when I moved to LAwhile while training and all
that from the acting stuff, Istarted uh I had someone sucker
me into joining a boy band.
Um and it was like we wentthere.
SPEAKER_01 (15:10):
That's what I was expecting.
SPEAKER_00 (15:12):
Yeah.
So uh Hillary and Haley Duff'smanager had convinced me and a
friend of mine that he did musicand stuff, so we got into the
boy band because I was doing hiphop at the time, but you can
find photos because I used torock cornrows back in the day
while we were doing hip-hopbecause my hair was like all
kinds of cray, so it was easy tokind of keep it out of the way.
SPEAKER_02 (15:28):
I was gonna say you have the right stuff until the
cornrows.
No, sorry.
Now it's bye, bye, bye.
Okay, I did it.
I said it.
SPEAKER_01 (15:35):
That was nice.
You know, I'm a masterresearcher.
I'm gonna find those pictures.
It's probably not too far.
SPEAKER_02 (15:42):
Did did you see the documentary on InSync and the uh
New Kids on the Block abouttheir manager?
It's on Netflix and it goesthrough all the the stuff he
did.
But and I like that music.
I didn't buy any albums, so youthat in my defense.
No, wait.
Afterwards, I just kept walkingaround and again saying to my
wife, Dirty Pop.
SPEAKER_00 (16:05):
Like, oh boy, that thing came on, just say bye to
Dean.
He's gonna be out on the flow.
You'd be surprised.
That was a hip hop.
Fine picture.
SPEAKER_01 (16:13):
Fine Dean Dean Boy band days.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (16:18):
We will search it and pop it into the video.
We're gonna promote the episodewith this.
SPEAKER_00 (16:23):
There we go.
I just became famous.
SPEAKER_01 (16:26):
What what was the name?
What was the name of the band?
SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
I don't know.
I couldn't tell you.
Don't know what you're talkingabout anymore.
Dementia.
Early.
SPEAKER_02 (16:37):
You know, when you resist, it makes it that much
worse.
SPEAKER_00 (16:39):
You should just go with the I want him to have fun
searching.
I want him to go down and GoogleRabbit.
That's kind of fun.
I probably should have gave youstraight access to it because
now you're gonna find I'mthere's some I'm an interesting
human being.
Let's just say that.
I've I have lived plenty oflives, my friends.
That's funny.
Yeah, I moved to Los Angeleswhen I was um 18 or 19, one or
the other.
(17:00):
And yeah, I yeah, we did we didall kinds of crazy stuff.
Thank God I always look back atlike, you know, now times and
I'm like, man, I'm glad youweren't around.
SPEAKER_02 (17:12):
That's why I'm nodding my head.
Like, yep.
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (17:15):
So what what got you going with it in the first place
before before the boy band days?
SPEAKER_00 (17:22):
Don't call it that.
Um so when I I was probably Imean, I was a kid, and I
remember being like five or six,somewhere in there, and we had
just got like the VHS kind oftape thing where you could, you
know, record that way.
SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:38):
And my sister and I, I would like make her do like
commercials and shit with me.
And I always remember the onewith like a road rate ro uh ro
Roach rate spray, and we werelike doing like the commercials
for that in between.
And I mostly remember because Isprayed that shit at one point.
That's when my mom was like,nope, we're done, no more of
these things.
(17:58):
But you know, it was always justentertaining to me then because
again, it's the same thing thatgoes back to I saw someone
giggle and I made you smile.
You got something from me thatmade you feel good.
Oh, where do I sign up?
I want to do that.
Like, I want to see people smileall the time.
(18:19):
So it was just like an immediateassigning that someone put the
hat on, was like, all right,this is what Dean's doing.
To the point that I think by myI was maybe 13 or 14 and did
like some of those like youknow, pro scout kind of things
where it's like, oh, modelsearch, acting search.
And you know, I had an I had anagent in like LA and New York
which did jack shit for a childin Louisiana that wasn't going
(18:41):
to LA or New York.
And I remember I remember inlike middle school that I was
like, and this was you know, mygirlfriend's family, look, we're
um we should probably break up.
Cause I moved to Los Angeles andI'm gonna be an actor, you know,
and uh, you know, you probablycan't come when I moved there.
(19:01):
So we should probably just callit now.
I didn't move for like anotherfive years or something.
But, you know, at the time I wasmy head was already like I was
already creating this future,this manifestation was done for
me.
So I started like uh I find Iended up finding an agency in
Houston that turned out mycousin, or you know, I call him
uncle because the agedifference, please, my cousin,
(19:22):
brought me over there and I didlike one class with uh a lady
named Karen Karen Gourmet thatwas doing a lot of casting out
of out of Houston at the time.
And after we finished, it waskind of like a commercial
audition and she messed up.
At the end of the audition, shewas like, Dean, you are so
funny, and I mean you're you'relike really talented.
This if you've never takenclasses, why why aren't you why
aren't you acting?
(19:42):
People want to hear me talk.
Okay.
Sure, we can do that.
And then that my cousin theregot resume set up and helped me
out, you know, the headshots,all that kind of stuff, which
you can find those too.
And started doing, you know,modeling and stuff like that.
I was doing some of those likesports modeling stuff.
I was on all like the academygear back in the day.
(20:04):
And uh, I think my firstcommercial was a Chef Boy RD
commercial, was also the firsttime I realized that there is a
bucket underneath the table fora reason, and nobody told me.
SPEAKER_02 (20:17):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00 (20:18):
I haven't touched Chef Boy RD since.
It was my favorite at the time.
Wow.
But man.
I just remember like finishingone of the cuts and was like
cut, and I was like, okay.
I sat back and the sound guy douh there's a bucket down there
if you need to you know spitthat out after every take.
(20:40):
What?
That's what that's for?
Have you been eating all ofthat?
Mm-hmm.
Oh yeah.
He was like, Yeah, just justspit it out now.
So I learned early about that.
Once was enough.
That national commercial, whichback in the day, I think, ah
god, by the time that thing wasdone, I think I probably racked
(21:01):
up probably 50k on a chefboyardie commercial at the age
of like 16 or something.
So that is what gave me enoughto be like, all right, cool.
I'm I'm gonna move to LosAngeles when when it hits time.
And I moved out there then.
Nice.
SPEAKER_02 (21:16):
Yeah.
God bless the chef.
SPEAKER_00 (21:18):
Yeah.
Of the boy are Dean.
SPEAKER_02 (21:24):
I haven't had the food thing.
I did one night in Miami and Iwas front row, right in front of
the stars.
So Malcolm X is right behind me.
So I am not gonna move.
And they started handing outthose paper cigarettes, and I
quit in '98.
So it wouldn't have been aproblem, but I was like, I'm
good.
Because I knew every take theywere gonna get a new one, and
people are gonna be inhaling,and by the end of the 14-hour
(21:44):
day, they want to be sick asdogs.
Yeah.
Not me.
I did have the secondhand papersmoke, but you know, we won't go
into that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:52):
Yeah, it's like I mean, it's like the eating thing
in a scene.
The you can always tell likesomeone's brand new that's never
done a an eating scene beforebecause they go for it and
you're like, so so slow down inbetween, like when you're doing
the take, maybe give yourself belike you're just finishing a
bite to get yourself rolling,maybe.
That way you're not eating everytake.
Oh no, I'm fine.
It's my it's my character.
Okay, okay.
(22:14):
Character, do it.
And then by like, you know,fourth or fifth take, because
there was again, you're talkingabout a table where we had like
six people at the table, sowe've got close-ups all the way
around.
Yeah, and we got mediums all theway around.
We got two shots, we got wives,we got so much stuff that we're
gonna be covering.
That I'm like, you're not and Iknow, you know, once you've done
(22:37):
this long enough, you're like, Iknow what I know what lens we're
on.
I'm not, I'm if you're in an 85,I'm not in this shot, so I'm
forking it, right?
And then newer actress, sameperson I was mentioning, I was
like, Don't just wait.
If it's especially if it's not,you're not on camera right now.
I said, Yeah, but I just wantto, just in case.
Do it.
I'm forking his full mouth.
(22:59):
I'm like, he's gonna be so sick.
And oh yeah.
By the time we took break, hedidn't eat lunch.
He was just like, I'm gonnaskip.
I'm gonna ask nope, didn't touchlunch.
Just had some coffee.
SPEAKER_02 (23:09):
TJ, he he talks more than me.
I don't know, I don't know.
What are we gonna do?
How do we get him to stop?
SPEAKER_01 (23:13):
I'll just hit stop.
unknown (23:16):
Cool.
SPEAKER_02 (23:16):
Let's bring him back for part two.
What do you think?
SPEAKER_01 (23:21):
Fine.
SPEAKER_02 (23:23):
It's a lot, but I you know, I don't I think he's
got more to say.
So come and join us next week,folks, for part two.
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