September 17, 2025 • 55 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we're live .
Nola Film Scene is in the house.
He's TJ, he's Plato, he's Hick.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thanks, for having me , guys.
I think this is the second timeI was promised to be on Theo
Vaughn and I've been trickedagain.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It just keeps happening, man, I mean, how else
are we going to get the famousNick.
Cheramy yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I guess first time shame on you, second time shame
on me.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
So what you're saying is there won't be a third?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
yeah, of course there'll be a third if I'm
invited back.
If I'm invited, yeah, maybenext time we'll get theo on too,
just so he can go stop talkingabout me.
Hick, hick, how have you beenin the past two years?
Welcome?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
back.
I can't believe it's been twoyears.
Like it really hit me the otherday.
I was like, wow, that's twoyears ago and I think as we get
older, time just flies awayfaster.
I've been well.
I've been busy and lucky enoughto stay working.
(00:57):
Things are great, family'shappy, my partner's happy.
She made me a nice coffee withmy little halloween
jack-o'-lantern on it, which hasa content.
She started this the lasthalloween and I've kind of just
kept it all year.
But I've been good man, I can'tcomplain nice yeah, and we're
(01:21):
live on, we're live we're liveon my account in a minute but
I've shared the youtube linkeverybody follow.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Make some comments.
We're gonna see if we cananswer some.
We don't know.
We're still working the tech,come talk to us if we can break
away.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I don't know what the saints are doing right now.
If we can break them away fromthe saints game, I think it's
probably finished by now it's.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It was probably finished a little while ago, I'm
sorry to say, unless they cameback.
They were trailing, but they'restill scrappy, they're still
fighting.
So who dat, who dat, baby?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
LSU pulled it off yesterday.
Yeah, man, my alma mater is notdoing good this year.
This is the first losing seasonthey've had since I became a
student in 2019 or so.
Who's your alma mater?
Liberty University?
A student in 2019 or so?
Who's your alma mater?
Liberty University?
They're just struggling thisyear.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
But I digress, they do that insurance Liberty,
liberty, liberty, bibbity.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Different Liberty.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Oh my bad, but I mean , if they want to throw me a
commercial, you know, Bring itHick.
One of your new movies that I'mso excited about is the Foy
Pronounce it right, youpronounced it right.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
You pronounced it right.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And you've got some great Cajuns working in there.
You do, man yeah.
You do, yeah, a certain cook, acertain cook, cajun cooking
with Hoss.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Cajun cooking with Hoss.
Yes, cajun cooking, lost Hick.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
We'll keep going.
Hopefully we'll get him back onlive in his technical problems.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yep Technical, I mean one for technical.
My dad used to say one for noproblems, I wouldn't have any
problems.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's deep man.
I don't know the gentleman,cajun Cookerwood Haas.
I love his videos because he'llwatch people all over the
country trying to make Creoleand Cajun food and once he gets
frustrated, throw that in thelong grass.
And you don't put tomatoes ingumbo.
We all know that.
But God help you if you putthat Old Bay anywhere.
That's Yankee stuff and I amgetting it.
(03:19):
Oh, that was you sending it tohim?
Okay, I thought I was getting amessage from beyond.
By beyond, I mean my phone.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Y'all lost me, man.
I went to another dimension.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
You got thrown in the long grass.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I got thrown in the long grass.
But yeah, Cade Haas, he's agreat guy and they kind of
pulled him in on this becausehe's such an entertainer when it
comes to his videos.
He has a huge following andhe's a great guy and we we talk,
(03:50):
probably at least once a week,we chat, texting each other.
Yeah, he, his videos are sofunny.
And and the director of the FWAwhich, by the way, means
diarrhea and Cajun it's a, it'sa gumbo of genres, you know
horror and comedy.
And David Rabelais, thedirector, he brought in just
(04:13):
everyone local from influenceslike Corey Ledoux and Brittany
Boudreau, and you know, he justbrought in a bunch of great
people within the Cajun cultureand who are influential.
And when I kind of saw theproject, I was like man, I was
like I got to be a part of this.
So him and I connected and hewas like you know, he's like I
(04:36):
have no budget.
And I was like dude, like he'slike I'm not going to take up a
lot of time, I'm like dude, Idon't care, Like I want to go do
this, Like I'm like dude, Idon't care, Like I want to go do
this, Like I'm not worriedabout money, I'm not worried
about my time.
The scheduling was a littletough because the two leads in
it are Kristen Renton, who wasin a lot of amazing series she
(05:00):
was everything from In theStories to Sons of Anarchy and
then her partner, Nick Manning,from the New Orleans TV reality
series, Nightwatch.
He's the other lead in it.
So I got to work with them and,yeah, it's funny Like this guy
can write.
David can write.
He's somebody who lives withinour culture.
So I think that everyone whowatches this from here is really
(05:26):
going to get like every phrase.
They're going to understandprobably every joke.
They're going to understandlike just everything in it,
because it's just so deep inCajun and Acadian culture.
So I was excited to do it and Ihad a really cool role.
You know he's like it's kind offun, man, how God works
sometimes.
You know he kind of puts theright people in the right place,
(05:49):
because he's like it's kind offun, man, how God works
sometimes.
You know it's uh, he kind ofputs the right people in the
right place, Cause he's likelook, I have this role but this
will be like days to shoot, butI don't want to keep you, you
know, long and my schedule hasbeen really nuts.
So he had a role for me of theCajun archivist, who is the guy
who, uh, they go find to findout the history about the curse
of the foie, right, and he'slike man.
He's like can you do creepy?
Like I, kind of really I'm likebro, I got you, dude, like I
(06:12):
got you.
So I played this like reallycreepy.
I improvised a lot of what I didand it you know, there's not
much work.
I look at and I'm like man outgreat, but like it turned out
really great.
I seen a rough cut and, uh, itwas funny because, traveling
with Taryn who who's anothersocial media influencer and has
(06:33):
a really cool page and following, she came to set to interview
me and it was kind of coolbecause she got a lot of the
good networking opportunitieswith uh, meeting the director
and then meeting kristen andnick and that kind of spread off
for her to do, have more uhinterviews to be done and
content.
So we're interviewing and andshe's like so what's kind of
(06:55):
going?
Before the end she's likewhat's kind of like, what kind
of kind like, what's going ontoday, what are you going to do?
And I'm like I was like, well,they don't really have an idea
of what I'm going to do.
I was like we have dialogue.
I said I'm going to do this andI was like I'm thinking about
probably doing this and I'mprobably going to.
So everything I got to do waslike I really caught them off
guard with it.
So it was like just realnatural reactions to my
(07:15):
weirdness and I played like asavant, a Cajun savant of
somewhat of some sort.
Cajun savant of somewhat ofsome sort who just for some
reason ingest like in cajunculture, information like super
fast and and and I and I tend tojust absorb it like a sponge
and uh, yeah, I don't want togive the scene away too much,
(07:35):
but man, it was, it was so funand, yeah, y'all be looking for
the foie.
I'll go follow david rabel,filmmaker, and you got some
really cool stuff coming out andhe has other things planned out
in the future and maybe, justmaybe, we can get him on this
show and then you guys canconnect, because he does have
future projects and that's somereally cool networking possibly,
(07:58):
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Hey, let me interrupt real quick.
Are you picking up the Echo?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Brian, let me just hit, stop, because I can't
toggle on echo cancellation.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
In other words, we'll be right back, we'll be right
back.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
We're back.
I hear you now, and I don'thear us with an echo.
So tech problem solved, we'reback folks.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
We're back, we're back.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Thank you so much for sharing that, hick.
I'm not only going to reach outto the director but some of
your Cajun co-stars, because weknow I'm going to play a Cajun
in a movie we described on ourtwo-year anniversary special and
Yousef described it like aCajun.
Obi-wan Kenobi Like TonySachery meets Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I did, uh, I read that or heard that somewhere
actually, yeah, yeah, that'sfunny there's been some Cajun
projects lately.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I did an audition I think y'all probably auditioned
for the same project, I don'tknow if it was for the same
character but one of the one ofthe takes they wanted in a
little bit of a Cajun accentchanged.
I changed the wording of theone that I did in Cajun, you
know, because in in Cajunculture I always heard people
saying motorbike instead ofmotorcycle, like that was the
(09:09):
thing.
It doesn't matter if it's a bigfull Harley or a dirt bike,
it's a motorbike, a motorbike.
But in normal, you know, likethe way I grew up, motorcycle,
dirt bike, whatever, motorbike,whatever.
So I changed it.
I said motorbike for thatbecause the dialogue was
actually motorcycle, but forthat one cage intake I said
motorbike, you know, to make ita little more culturally
(09:32):
accurate.
Well, hey, why don't you talk tous a little bit about the
interview stuff?
Because when we started thispodcast I was coming off of a
film in Texas and it was myfirst time getting interviewed
on set like behind the scenesinterviews, and I was getting
interviewed with the guy thatwas my scene partner and he was
(09:53):
a YouTuber, so he was used totalking on camera and answering
questions and he had done a fewof those things and I felt like
a deer in the headlights.
I've been interviewed beforebut I just kind of felt like I
wasn't quick on my feet and Ithought, well, you know,
starting a podcast, it mighthelp if I'm talking to people
regularly.
So Brian and I talked about it,we got it going.
(10:15):
You agreed to come on and be ourfirst guest and I've since had
a few nowhere near the quantitythat you've had of these
interview style setups.
Can you speak a little bit tothat?
Because it's kind of weird,because they tell you don't look
at the camera.
But in an interview, especiallya content creation type
interview, it's a little bitdifferent and we talked a little
(10:37):
bit before we started todayabout that.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, you know I've done like.
You know, like this instance,instance, you know, if I was to,
when you're talking, I'mlooking at you and the camera's
here.
You know I'm saying so.
You can see, my eyeline isfocused like to you.
I have brian here in the middle.
But if I was like a while agowe're talking about like, when I
switched to saying like youknow where I'm speaking to the
(11:02):
audience, I looked up at thecamera to speak to the audience
and in the beginning of first ofall, I'll say this about
interviews Never in my lifewould I have ever thought that
people would have cared what Ihad to say at all.
Right, so I think in thebeginning, getting over that was
pretty tough for me.
Where people were interested in, maybe in what you're working
on, or people are interested inyour story.
(11:23):
Where people are interested,maybe in what you're working on,
or people are interested inyour story, or people are
interested in whatever sobrietyyeah, my sobriety and whatever
it may be.
And then, how did I come fromhere to here?
and yeah you know and and Ican't even count how many times
I've told that story, becauseevery different interviewer
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wants a part of that story.
So you know I'm always tellingthat story.
And what different interviewerwants a part of that story?
So you know, I'm always tellingthat story.
And what I learned is ininterviews is you have a lot of
them who will send you questionsahead of time, and I don't.
I don't really care for that.
I don't want the, you know,premeditated answer type
question.
I really don't like to knowwhat an interviewer is going to
(12:05):
ask me because I feel like ittakes away from a natural
dialogue between the personinterviewing you and, you know,
the interviewee or whatever youmay be called.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
And I agree with that , and that's why we don't.
We don't send out interviewquestions.
We have some, some standardtypes of questions that we ask,
but it varies from guest toguest because everybody's got a
different background.
And I agree with you that's.
That's part of the reason wedon't do that, because I I feel
like it takes away from exactlywhat the point you're making
right now.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, it's just, it's more organic and and and I love
to be, you know, you know actsomething on the spot and not
knowing what it is, you know, Ithink that's you know.
Act something on the spot andnot knowing what it is, you know
, I think that's you know, as ahuman being, it's a challenge
for me and it just keeps thatdialogue, as I said, you know,
organic, you know.
So, in the beginning it was alot of interviews where you had
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these questions ahead of timeand so what I learned quickly on
was just to tell the person I'mlike, look, just, I'm an open
book, ask me whatever you want.
Like I will talk about whateveryou want, like I have nothing
to hide, I have nothing that I'mshameful of.
So, just, whatever you want toask me, ask me.
But I think we were discussing,before I jumped on you and I
(13:19):
was, and Brian was, you know,these different style types of
interviews.
You know, I started doinginterviews back before COVID,
but it was still, you know, zoomor whatnot.
It was still all online, likewe are now, and I was basically
just doing interviews, like I amnow, and then it kind of, after
COVID, it kind of moved to somein-person stuff, right.
(13:42):
So, like in-person stuff, asyou were discussing or started
to discuss, is a lot different,because now you're having
dialogue with a person say, tomy right, I was just in doing
one recently but you're speakingto her followers and her
audience, right.
So I learned kind of at thebeginning it was kind of weird
because I would stay justengaged with the person and I'm
(14:03):
like, what is the audiencereally seeing here?
Are they really just seeing myprofile and they're seeing?
They're not seeing any emotionin my face?
They're not.
They're not really.
Are they really connecting withwhat I have to say?
So, as we kind of talked aboutearlier, you know, I've figured
out that I have to speak to theaudience also because I mean,
that's why I'm here.
I'm sure they interested inwhat I have to say.
(14:25):
But like, really, this person'sbringing me on to engage with
their audience.
And you know, that's when I kindof like I realized, okay, I
gotta talk more to the camerabecause, as you said, as an
actor, like one of our big rulesis we never spike the camera,
we never look straight into thecamera, like if I'm acting out
(14:45):
of scene and I'm talking to thisguy here and I'm like, yeah,
joe, I'm like, yeah, you know,I'm not going to be like, yeah,
joe, and joe's away.
I mean, you know what I'msaying.
So we have all these eye linesto follow and these characters,
especially when auditioning, andthey're just not there and we
have one reader, you know.
So I had to learn that it'sokay to look at the camera.
It's okay, really.
(15:05):
A little while ago we talkedabout this for a little short
break we had, as I was talkingabout it, yeah, david Robiley.
He's a great director, he's abrilliant writer, he does a lot
of funny stuff and this wasgoing to be a good one.
So y'all be looking out for thefoie.
You know what I'm saying.
So I'm switching to the cameranow.
(15:32):
Uh, but in the beginning Ididn't really know that concept.
Uh, as you said, I was kind oflike a deer in headlights
because first of all, uh, youknow I will be.
It doesn't happen, no more.
But I would be more nervoussitting down for an interview
than I was like on a film set.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Right, I remember talking to you when you were
scheduled to go do your firstpanel as an actor.
You got invited to be acelebrity panelist, and you were
.
You were a little bit nervousabout that.
Yes, yes, I was, I wasdefinitely.
You had done a lot ofinterviews up to that point
related to your sobriety.
But there's a whole differentfeel to it being in person when
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you've got all those eyes at youversus it is when it's remote.
Right now, it's just the threeof us, and who knows how many
people are watching remotely,you know yeah, you know, and and
it definitely is in person,it's completely different.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Now, like I still get nervous.
I was at a premiere at thebaton Rouge Underground Film
Festival last month maybe, wheremy film Evangeline was featured
there.
And like the getting up onstage and asking the questions
and Cameron will say like, likedude, like you had the audience
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engaged, like I was, like I wasnervous.
She's like you can't even tellyou know.
And one thing about her is likeshe's like you can't even tell
you know.
And one thing about her is likelike this morning we had a
major primetime audition.
I did the first take and I'mlike, oh, that's good.
And she was like, let's tryanother one, you know.
And I was like, ok, so I didanother one and then, like we
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played it back and she's likethis is the one, like this is
the one, like this is the one IfI'm going to, like this is the
one.
I'm like this is the one If I'min a book, this is the one.
I trust her with my life andespecially my career.
But she'll tell me she was likeyou didn't look nervous at all.
Now, next month is something newfor me and I know you guys are
big, especially Brian, are bigon these cons, right, yeah, yes,
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and it's yes, number one, I'mhonored to be asked to sit at a
con as a celebrity guest, butwith that comes a lot of anxiety
.
I just can't see people wantingto come and get my autograph or
take a picture with me, andnobody might want to because
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they might not know who the hellI am.
But that has really and Cameroncan testify to that in the past
couple of months has brought upa lot of conversations of of,
uh, doubt and anxiety.
Uh, I was like, okay, I waslike I got all this stuff
printed up, right, becausethat's what they do they get
(18:07):
this table.
When I have the whole bannerand the stuff printed up and, um
, you know, I'm like okay, so,like pricing.
So I was gonna like call billyslaughter, I'm like and billy
with like what chart?
And I was like you know whatman like I don't know if I'm a
charge, right, it's like 117investment for me.
And I'm like if anybody comesout to see like little old me
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and what's something like nodude, like I just I just can't
see and and there's probablygonna be a lot of people are
gonna be like, dude, you need todo this and you need to chill,
you need to.
But I just feel like so blessedthat somebody would take their
time out.
First of all, they buy a ticketto go to this thing and then
like I don't know, it's so weird, it's I don't want to say weird
(18:53):
, but it's just so humbling tome.
Yeah, if somebody would come tome and it's like, hey, man, I
can get a picture with you.
I like you know, I want to getan autograph of this print or
this picture here, and so Idon't know how that's gonna go.
It's scary, you know, and andI've already put in my mind that
probably nobody's gonna comeand talk to me or or do anything
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but that one.
It's new waters for me and it'sscary Usually.
I'm at a stage now in my careerwhere I don't get really
nervous about anything.
I mean, I did a guest star roleon a big television series and
I was not nervous about it, butlike this I'm like nervous about
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.
So I guess we're going to seein October if these things are
meant for me or or, or they not.
And I think the guy who runs it, davey, he's a great guy and I
was like super humbled andhonored when he asked.
Yeah, yeah, when he asked me todo it.
I mean that you know they talkabout us actors, the grind and
how busy we are, but like I seethis guy and I see everywhere
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he's at and what he's putting onand what he does and he's he's
a machine dude Like this is aperson that is very passionate
about what he does and you couldtell it's a very selfish
passion to have other peoplecome and enjoy these things and
and learn about whatever theylearn about there and and to be
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able to to access things thatthey're not able to access and
like it's just I don't know,it's a beautiful thing and it
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was one of the reasons that Iwas.
I said yes, you know, it wasone of the reasons I said yes, I
was like this is just a greatthing this guy does and to bring
all these people together, it'sjust a beautiful like thing.
I'm not in that world likebrian is.
I've never actually went to onewhere billy was at and I was to
visit with billy and josephfrom five nights at freddy they
were both there and christianstokes they were all.
All three of them were thereand I went to like support my
fellow actors and I ended upjust wrapping out with billy a
while and people were coming upto his table and joseph's table
and I went sit in on their paneland and listen to our panel and
(21:02):
they're for support.
But what I seen was just a lotof amazing artistic human beings
, a lot of people with hugepassions for things that we
produce in the entertainmentindustry that we work in, and I
don't know man that didsomething to my heart.
I didn't, I didn't get it before.
I'm like what, what, what?
(21:23):
You know what?
Even I would see brian and I'mlike I'll get it.
Man, he's like so into it, he'sso into it.
Well, I went and now I know whyit's like this.
It like this, it's verycommunal, it's very family, it's
very and I just that was myfault for not so much judging a
book by its cover, but maybe notunderstanding the content of
the book before I opened andread it, and it was just it
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turned out to be a beautifulthing for me.
So when Davey did reach out,totally honored, scared, yes,
but honored, and I'm going to bedoing it next month for like
two days, I get to sit there anddo this amazing thing, this,
this opportunity that I'm sureother people would just kill for
, you know, to have opportunityto be a celebrity guest at some
(22:06):
kind of con, you know.
So that I'm nervous about andthat's new waters for me.
And you know, I still thinkit's going to be a great
experience and we'll see how itgoes.
You know, man, I'm just a dudefrom like the bayou who works in
the oil field, like that's it,you know.
So that's a little overwhelmingfor me.
(22:29):
You know, it's the same as TJsaid.
I think that's what brought alot of the fear and anxiety with
the celebrity guest panel.
I don't look at myself as acelebrity, by no means.
I mean, I don't think I'm not,like I act because it's therapy
for me, it's.
It's a different world now,because now people want to see
that character, people want tomeet that character.
(23:00):
So now it becomes a differentthing.
Yeah, I'm at no level as likebilly or or creek or christian,
as these guys who had these,really, but like it's still
scary, you know.
Yeah, of course, because it'slike I said, it's new to me, but
(23:21):
as the days have gone on and itgets closer and closer to this
thing not saying I wasn'texcited about it, but I keep
getting more and more excitedabout it.
I keep, I guess my gratitudecontinues to grow to be able to
attend something like that andexperience it from behind the
table.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Well, so I first let me say I don't think there's
anything wrong at all with beinghumble about it and maybe,
after you get there and getthrough this event and you're
not wanting to charge people forthe experience and you see
exactly what you just saidpeople wanting to see you for
some of the work product thatyou put out, that's, that's a
(24:03):
good thing at the end of the day.
That's what it's about, and I'mactually really impressed.
I mean, I I've known you for along time and that's one of the
things that stood out about youearly on was your humility, and
you didn't know me from Adam andyou were willing to answer
questions and help me out withadvice on self tapes and
(24:26):
auditions.
And I'm like man, you ever gotthis, what do you do in this
situation?
And you never acted like youwere better or too cool for
school to answer those questions, and I think that's really
going to carry you a long way.
It really is.
There's plenty enough peoplethat are jerks about it and it's
cool that you're not, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I guess this is the lingering thought of like I'm
not supposed to be here If thatmakes sense.
You know Exactly, I'm notsupposed to be here, if that
makes sense, you know, uh,exactly, well, well, no, the
imposter syndrome like, okay, sofar the con, that came back for
me, but as far as an actor,I've, I've gotten over that,
(25:08):
that mountain right but like Idon't think, I don't think I'm
talking about is for theconvention yeah, I don't think
I'm supposed to be alive, not ina grim way, but it's like the
life I led.
I'm like man, like God saved mefor something you know, and I'm
like I'm just lucky to bebreathing, like I'm lucky to be,
to get up every morning in thatbed, morning in that bed, and
(25:36):
I'm lucky to be able to get upat four something in the morning
and dress myself and go andwork 10 hours in the oil field
and then come home to anaudition and do this audition
and I'm beat and I'm tired andI've.
Thank God I have such asupporting partner because my
time is so limited with her.
Like you know, it was likegrocery shopping and then I had
(25:57):
a producer director doingwardrobe stuff and and and I'm
setting up for this and therewas a couple other things on my
an audition.
There was just things on thelist and then here I'm here now
you know.
So that's another thing too,like and I think we've discussed
this before is make sure thatif this is the road you take or
(26:20):
this is the life you want, thatyou have the proper support
system.
You know, especially the onewho's closest to you, and God
bless her man, because she hasbeen.
I mean, look, the girl's goingfor her master's right now.
She is a full time as anacademic advisor.
You're still muted, brian.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
We might have lost him.
There's no red dot in hiscorner.
There's another tech issue,folks.
We can see when someone's fullyengaged with the internet.
When their computer is here, hecomes.
We think he's going to belinked together.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, it'll all be one solid episode.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
We're back.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, sorry about that guys.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
No, not your fault.
I did want to stop you becausea couple of things you said.
You don't know what yourpurpose would be, and at least
one is you are an inspirationfor those struggling with
alcoholism.
I don't know how many have comeup to you how many will come up
to you, but you are shininglight in that.
You got out of that, yousurvived it and you strived.
You became something great Idon't want to say became
(27:16):
something you know realized yourpotential.
It'd be a better thing In thecon world since that's my world
and that's Comic-Con, not beinga con man I think you should set
up your table and just talk topeople as they come by.
A lot of times, people behindthe table just sit down, just
say, hey, how you doing you knowfree photos with you and you
can charge like $5 or $10 forthe pictures.
It's your time and you've paidfor those pictures.
(27:41):
Now, if they're not selling andpeople don't want to do that,
then you can drop it down.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
If I do make any money, I'll donate it into
charity.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
That's fine.
I'm not saying you're going toget rich off of it.
My thought is break even onwhat you spent, right, but you
don't make enough money, youknow, between the films and the
stuff that's your thing.
I don't think you shoulddevalue yourself from the start,
even though you're not seeingit like that.
You're worth probably more thanfive bucks, but that's my
opinion on it, not much more.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So thank you for those kind words and that those
suggestions and that advice, wewe are also getting our own
table, tj and I, at Cajun Con,which we've talked about.
We're going to have a littlebit of merch.
My signature is terrible.
I bought a calligraphy thing tolearn to do a thing, not that I
want to.
I've been asked once whensomeone found out I was deaf, tj
, have I said that I was in Billand Tiff, you were a guest.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Photo double right.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I was.
I don't know how you found thatout.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I've heard it once.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I haven't signed any autographs.
I haven't been up to that level, but I wanted to be prepared
for it.
So at some point it's almostit's like when someone wants to
give you a gift and you're likeno, no, no, that what they enjoy
giving you the gift.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
So someone asking for your autograph means that they
like you.
Yeah, so it's, it's, it's.
It's happened like I mean, I'mmale, I'm male headshots out
pretty often.
People reach out, they're like,you know, and cameron does a
great job at, you know, printingthem up and I'll sign it, write
a little note and and she'll,uh, you know, get it all packed
up and get everything mailed offand you know, so that was
something kind of to get used to.
(29:20):
People were like, hey, you know,like, do you have a headshot
with your autograph?
And then, I think it was liketwo weeks ago, there is this ill
child and they are doing abenefit and I can't make it
because I'm going to be on setnext month, or this is November
for a film, or next month.
I got a, I got a film I'mfilming in October and I got a
(29:40):
film that I'm filming inNovember, sort of like, can you
donate like an image of you froma film or from a whatever, like
which signature?
Like we want to auction it off,and I was just just like, oh,
my God, like of course I can.
So you know, I've, I've, I'vekind of done that.
I've just never charged anybodyfor it.
Uh, yeah, it was.
(30:01):
It was kind of like um, like Isaid, man, it was it's it's all
new to me, but I'm excited.
I'm excited to and I'm justthat type of person, brian, like
you were saying, if people comeby say, I'm just that type of
person that likes to converseand have conversations.
So I think I'm going to be okaywith that part of it.
But you know, I've been prayingabout it and meditating on it
(30:25):
and I'm excited to do it.
And you know I'm just going togo do what I do.
I'm going to show up, suit up,show up and be there.
So I'm pretty excited about it.
But before we were going, umgot cut off.
I was going back to Cameron,you know.
So these long days we're talkingabout the support.
Both of us are like worn out,like worn out from our day.
(30:46):
And then you have that personthere who's like and look, I'm
gonna be honest, it could bemajor network, it could be
independent film, it could be acommercial, it could be whatever
and I'm just like oh, I waslike, I'm not feeling this, like
I'm tired.
I've been up since 4 am andshe's there and she's like this
is what you do, like rememberwhy you do this.
This is what you do.
And she'll be like look, I'mgoing to start supper, get in
(31:09):
that room, get yourself set up.
She's like we're going to readover.
She's like you did your scriptbreakdown.
We're going to read over.
She's like and then we're goingto go in there and we're going
to do what you do.
So make sure you have thatperson or those people in your
life that support this lifestyle, because it is not an easy one.
It is nonstop.
You won't hear nothing forweeks and then all of a sudden
(31:31):
it's hammering down on you andthe stuff you get outside of
your agent doesn't stop.
For the stuff they get, agentLife none of it stops.
The interviews won't stop thewhatever it may be, it just does
not stop.
It's ongoing and it's constant.
And if you're not havinganything come to you, you're
working on stuff and you'reworking on you and you're
(31:52):
working on your methods andyou're working on your methods
and you're working on whateverit is you got to work on to make
you a better actor, to help youaudition better, to help you
break down a script for scriptanalysis better.
It just doesn't stop.
But you have to have that.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yep, I agree tenacity is the key yeah, yeah, you
gotta relentless.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
It seems like it hasn't really slowed down for
you at all.
For me it has come to all but ascreeching halt.
It just hasn't picked back up.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
For me, really the last year audition-wise there
are hundreds and hundreds ofother actors, a lot of actors I
speak to, who are just there'snothing for them right now, you
know, and there's nothing thatthey they early on in their
(32:43):
career, so they haven't reallyhad a chance to build up when it
was popping and, and you know,so they, they, it's stagnant.
You know, and and trust me,like I have my months of being
stagnant, you know, like I cameoff of a film in April, right
before the film boom, big AppleTV audition, boom, big Hulu TV
(33:04):
series audition.
I didn't book neither one ofthem and then I went and I
filmed this film, uh, in Aprilof this past year.
And because of my work ethic,because of my acting, because of
bringing me on to their nextfilm, I'd assigned contract
about a month ago that I startto film in November.
(33:26):
Director, writer, the DP alllove me, they're bringing me
back.
So that's what led for thatfilm.
And then, out of the blue, youknow, I had really not a lot of
auditions this summer.
I spent a lot of time just inthe oil field, one every few
weeks.
(33:46):
Maybe it would pop up a littlecommercial work here, there, you
know, a little ad work here orthere, but I mean nothing like.
I mean weeks and weeks andweeks without nothing.
And then, sure enough, likerecently today, major Apple TV
series audition, the other day,major TV series guest role
audition, a guest star audition,you know.
(34:07):
So that just came in like awave and then I just signed a
contract two weeks ago.
I'm filming a film playingJoseph Poliquin's uncle in a
film that we leave for nextmonth and film that you know,
but, like from May till, I think, they reached out to me and we,
in September last month, end oflast month, nothing, you know
(34:31):
nothing.
I mean it was crickets and youknow, this is what I've learned
is that when it's crickets,that's the film, gods, casting
director, gods, whatever youwant to call it saying, hey,
work on you.
So what I did was I spent a lotof time just working on me and
and, and you know a lot of and alot of insight, stuff of inside
(34:52):
stuff, you know, and how couldI use more of me and my acting
and things that?
I'm like man, I'm learningthings, auditioning that, and
I've booked some really greatgigs, but I'm learning things
and auditioning that wasn't evendoing before because I got to
spend time with me as a humanbeing.
You know so I was able to do alot of like research within self
(35:14):
, you know.
So this thing is like sobriety.
It's kind of weird and I alwayssay this, and I just said it in
an interview that just aired isthat it costs right and the
rent is due, like every day, nomatter if you're hitting on
something or you're not, you'restill paying your dues in some
form every day to this craft.
(35:36):
And that could be from truelife experiences and really
stepping aside and reallylearning about what you just
experienced as a human being andkind of retaining that and
remembering and learning from it, because you're going to have
an audition in probably five orsix months from now and you're
going to be like man.
This character kind of wentthrough what I was going through
at this time, yeah, and like Iremember how that made me feel
(35:58):
and I'm glad I really dissectedthat feeling and I'm glad.
I'm glad I really stored ithere and here and can use it now
in this moment where it'sneeded.
So that cricket time is when youreally do a lot of your work.
Right, for me it is, it's when Ido a lot of my work.
It could be in school.
(36:18):
You know what I like to call itis living life on life's terms
and learning from that.
That's the school right.
We can get taught all thattechnical stuff with acting
right.
We could get taught eyeline andwe can get taught lighting and
having the proper backdrop, andwe can get taught all that stuff
that when we start to use ourhuman experience for our
(36:39):
characters.
For me it's truth and that'swhat I want to be truthful, you
know.
So those times are important.
They just as important as youbeing on a film set.
I truly believe that's from myown experience.
It's it's it's using thatdowntime to learn who you are,
who you are as an actor, who youare as a human, you know, and
(37:02):
taking those experiences, I meanlet's we all open and we fringe
tj that downtime where you seepeople close to you booking or
you see booking.
How did that make you feel?
I?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
feel discouraged.
Before the strike I wasaveraging four, about four
auditions a week and I've hadthree in the last.
Well, since the beginning,since January, I've had three.
I've had two callbacks.
I did one commercial.
I feel like I got pretty closeon this last commercial audition
(37:35):
I did, but I'm just not gettingauditions period.
In the last year I think I'vehad maybe five and all but one
have been for commercials.
I'm not allowed to self-submitfor auditions.
Now if it's a project thatsomebody's advertising on
Facebook or something like that,I can reach out to a director
(37:56):
but I still have to pass it bymy agent.
But as far as getting auditions, it's just not happening.
I mean, I'm happy for peoplethat are getting the work and
doing stuff and of course I'vedone projects, but it's all been
personal projects that somebodyhas done.
I say that I've had three frommy agent.
(38:17):
I did one audition for a film,a short.
My daughter was doing her veryfirst film audition.
It was a live Zoom and thedirector knew, or the filmmaker
knew, that I was an actor and hesaid, hey, do you want to read
for something?
And I'm like, yeah, absolutely.
He sent me a side real quick.
I read it and I booked it.
(38:38):
But that that kind of thingaside, I'm just just not getting
them right now.
Yeah, and I don't.
I don't know how to affect thatchange.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, and I think that change has a lot to do with
the industry right now.
Man, you know, and I'm sure Iknow myself and I'm sure Brian
can relate, and you can relate,as we're tired of that excuse
the way the industry is, andit's just, it's what's happening
in the industry right now and Ithink that's where a lot of our
(39:13):
faith has to come to, where wesay, you know what, like, let me
trust this process.
You know you said you feltdiscouraged and that's okay,
that's completely justified.
You know it's important wedon't sit in discouragement and
it's important we use thatdiscouragement to our advantage,
right, so, you know it'spicking up a book and studying a
new method, it's researchingother, different audition
techniques.
It's taking that discouragement, that feeling like I talked
(39:35):
about earlier, and using that ina future role that will come up
for you.
I promise you.
It always does.
It's going to come up for youand never forget how you felt
during this period in time.
You know, and it may be justyou having to make some
different choices with agents ormanagement or whatever it may
(39:56):
be, because we all got toremember, at the end of the day
it's business.
You know.
I think that sometimes we forgetthat, we forget that this is a
business and the people above us, that's what they care about.
Is money Right?
And at the end of the day, whenwe do a project, I mean
(40:19):
honestly, I love my craft, Ilove the, I have a passion for
acting, I love acting.
It's why I did the flaw, youknow.
Like I didn't have to go to myagent with that because I didn't
make no money.
Anything I make money on, I goto my agent, no matter if I book
it or not, like or she does orI do or whatever.
Like that's just a mutualrespect that her and I have.
It's for me it's just goodbusiness, of course, you know.
(40:40):
But uh, yeah, man, it's okayfor you to feel that.
And, and, and I want you toknow, you're not alone in that,
because I have a bunch of actingfriends and there's just I mean
, you think about it, man, lookat the productions we have
nothing going on.
Like we have nothing big goingon.
We don't have a lot of thingsgoing on, and you have places
(41:01):
like I mean you guys look like I.
Rarely I self submit Like Ijust the other day I was having
a conversation it was BrianBrian's like hey, did you sue
this thing on actress access?
And and I'm like I was likedude, I'm terrible at opening up
that app and looking for roles.
Like I feel like that if, ifthere's a role for me that my
(41:22):
agent doesn't find, they'regoing to come to me and think
I'm right for this.
And I've been lucky enough thatpeople have come to me and
they're like, hey, I've turneddown probably about four or five
films in the past three monthsbecause I'm and they came to me
like man, I have this role, thisis you.
Like you, this is, this is yourrole.
Like I wrote this and I feellike you wouldn't do it, but
(41:42):
like I got to think of it asbusiness too.
You know, okay, I'm nottraveling here for free.
You know I'm not buying, goingto spend money on wardrobe.
I'm not.
You know, whatever it may belike, if my agent don't find it,
I'm not going to look for it.
Like I'm just not.
The fly was a culturalattraction.
I had to it.
(42:03):
Uh, I read it.
It was the guys just comedic.
Timing and writing is amazing.
So I was like I got to be apart of this.
It's my culture, it's my, youknow.
So sometimes, man, like you justhave to trust that process and
kind of sit back and enjoy, likereally enjoy that time.
I'm not going to lie to you, man.
Sometimes I sit back and I'mlike, please, no auditions this
(42:25):
week.
And I know that sounds horrible, but like sometimes, sometimes
like I want to come home afterworking 10, 12 hours in the oil
field, take a shower, eat supper, spend time with the woman I
love, and like not hear aboutacting.
You know, I'm not saying thatbecause I don't like acting.
(42:45):
I'm saying that because I loveacting but I love my life too.
So I feel like when I don't getan audition and I don't hear
nothing for a month, two monthsor whatever, that's God saying
like okay, here you are, you'rehaving the time to build real
and new human experiences.
I'm giving you the time to readand become more knowledgeable
(43:05):
on your craft and I'm like youknow what I trust that Now, in
saying that, I'm not going tosay that I don't feel
discouraged, right, but it helpsme overcome that discouragement
.
It really does, you know,because I have that faith.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, I think you exemplify an attitude of
gratitude and I think that'ssomething that will get you
through, because my part I mighthave had 10, 15 auditions for
the whole year, maybe a littlemore, and I've booked one thing.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
That's a good ratio number bro, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I'm happy to book.
I'm not complaining and we'veall talked about this offline.
But I wanted to use it as anexample.
I booked it in August.
It was scheduled for August andgot rescheduled for September,
and then I got the notes on it,I got the call sheet, I got the
wardrobe.
Three hours after getting thatemail I got another email saying
it was canceled or postponedagain.
I'm like what the hell's goingon?
And I'm frustrated and my wifesaid it seems like they're, you
(43:58):
know, screwing with you.
How long are you going to letthat happen until we shoot?
Yeah, you know, vacation comingin October celebrating my 18th
wedding anniversary.
I don't want to do it on that.
The rule is if anything makesme SAG eligible, I'll skip the
vacation.
If it's non-union, let's seewhere it lands.
You know what I mean Because,like there's a two part to our
(44:20):
vacation, the first part is alittle more expensive, so I
don't want to have to.
I think I can get a refund, Ithink I can save my money, but I
don't want to lose my money onthat.
But I have to if I have to.
That's the job we chose.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, it is.
You know it is the job we chose.
You know it's.
It's the months without hearingnothing, the year without
hearing nothing.
That's that we went into that,not not knowing.
You know, and, and TJ, you diduse your time wisely.
You went and and you did otherprojects where you got to work
on your craft of acting, youknow.
So.
You know, and you have thisshow Y'all been doing interviews
(44:53):
, which has to do with acting,you know.
So like you're still stayingbusy.
It might not be the busy I wantsometimes, it might not be the
busy Brian wants, it might notbe the busy you want sometimes,
but like we have to look at, youknow, going back to gratitude,
that we have something to staybusy.
You know I mean remove acting.
None of us ever heard of acting, none of us ever studied acting
(45:13):
, none of us ever wanted to bean actor.
We're not actors, we're justthree dudes talking and I want
you to take your everyday lifeexperiences like a job.
And then the time you get tospend with your family, you have
to look at it kind of like that.
You know you have to look at it.
That you know.
This is what I make time forhere.
What's important to me here?
Well, my family's important tome here.
My job's important to me here.
My job helps me support myfamily.
You know, and that's what youreally have to concentrate on is
(45:35):
that, and it's fitting thatacting in that, you know, and
you look at like, okay, look atall these things, what's more
important, right?
Well, it depends on what youbelieve in.
For me, it's God, then it'sfamily, then it's acting, and
it's always going to be that.
It's always going to be that.
(45:55):
Now have I made some sacrificesbefore for family over acting,
absolutely, but I made sureeverybody was cool with it.
I have that discussion and thenI have to make sure that I'm
still being that loving fatherand I'm still being that loving
partner and I'm still being thatloving partner and I'm still
being that hard-working,dedicated, loyal employee.
If I am going to do that, inother words, everybody's going
(46:16):
to get that version of me loyal,hardworking, you know, and so
on, you know.
So I mean trust the process,man.
It's not worth going crazy over, it's not worth beating the
crap out of ourselves.
Far, it's great, there's a lotof cool opportunities we have.
It's a passion we have, it'ssomething we love to do.
(46:38):
But at the end of the day, it'snot everything you know, it just
isn't.
You know, sometimes I thinkabout like man, I moved to the
countryside of France and justdisappear, just me and my loved
ones, and I'd be completelyhappy.
I'm not saying there's a littlepart of me that would be like
(46:58):
man.
What could I have done in thefilm industry?
That's always going to be there, it's a part of this.
But you have to look at whatyour priorities are and in
reality for me it's God, family,acting.
That's it and I always keep itlike that.
If acting's not going so good,guess what?
I got God and family, andthat's always going to go good
(47:19):
for me.
God and family, right.
If you have God and you havefamily or whatever your higher
power is, if it's the universe,whatever you believe in, and you
have family, your supportsystem, your true foundation of
the man you are and what youbuilt, or woman you are and what
you built, or whatever you areand what you built, then guess
what Acting is going to be justfine, rather it's full force, or
it's not Right Because you havethose things above it.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeah, that's a really good outlook on that and I feel
, I mean, I feel the same way.
For me it's it's the same samefamily and then work.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, and you know what?
I don't care what interview I doand I don't care what it does
to my reputation and what itdoes to my career, but I will
always talk about I'm herebecause of God.
It might be my concept of God, aGod or a higher power of my
understanding that I choose tocall God, but I will always
because I'm here.
(48:11):
I'm here alive, talking toy'all because of my faith and
what I believe in, and that'snot something I talk a whole lot
about, but I always, alwaysmake sure to mention it, because
I wouldn't be y'all would haveno interest in talking to me if
I was just some random oil fuelworker who wasn't an actor,
right?
But God had allowed me to beataddiction and he allowed me to
(48:34):
get rid of all these characterdefects and he allowed me to be
a better person and to be lovingand compassionate.
And then he said you know, I'mgoing to give you a gift to go
and tell a story, right?
So without that, I mean, let'sbe real, Neither one of you
would want to have me on liveright now if you didn't know me
(48:55):
well, not about an actingpodcast, but we'd still love you
you're still around therebecause you, truly, I'm looking
to be.
You get the point I'm makingright, you know, like, uh, we
would have never met throughacting and and I would, I would
just not be here, just like Iwould have been in that
interview the other weekend orthe past ones, or a con or or
whatever you know.
So I always, uh, alwaysconcentrate on that and always
(49:15):
concentrate on my faith and Ialways concentrate on on my why.
You know, we forget thatsometimes, like what's your why,
the why man is so important andwhy?
Speaker 1 (49:26):
why do we have to run out of time?
It's been a great talk.
I wish you could go on foreverand I know you could talk and I
know I could keep talking, butTJ's ears are starting to bleed
Nah, not me.
It's been great having you onagain, my friend.
We'll have you on again inanother two years.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Before that yeah, man , let's do a.
Yeah, let's do every everytwo-year thing, but, uh, I'm
sure, yeah, thank y'all forhaving me, man, I'm grateful
that y'all used your time awayfrom your families and from
sunday afternoon to to sit hereand and chat with me.
I'm super grateful for that.
And uh, yeah, man, I uh gotmovie next month, movie november
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, and then hopefully just a veryquiet christmas and I thank for
all three of us and my otheracting friends that you know, I
truly, truly am manifesting thatwe all have a prosperous, not
only in our personal lives, butmost, you know, which is most
important, but our actingcareers, that we have way more
(50:27):
opportunities and we succeed inour goals in 2026 that we have
for ourselves as actors For sure.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Don't give up on 2025 yet, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Yeah, we'll drop Hick .
We'll drop your socials in thein the thing below.
Spell for the non-Cajun Frenchspeakers in the audience.
Spell the name of your film.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
It's called the Curse of the Fois F-O-I-S.
So be looking for that and it's.
Yeah, I just want you to know Ihave a very pivotal, but not a
huge role in here.
This is about the two maincharacters and them going on
this journey to find out what'sactually going on and the
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history of it, and I'm gratefulfor David Ravale for letting me
be a part of that and he workedme in just in time, enough for
me with my schedule and, yeah,I'm excited about it.
Thank you so much for promotingit and talking about it, of
course.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Thanks for coming on, my friend.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Thank y'all, man.
Y'all have a blessed Sundayafternoon.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
You as well.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
You have a good.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Monday.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
I'll try, Brian, we'll stay on after he goes for
just a minute and plug oursponsor.
Oh cool, Bye.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Hick.
See you, hick.
Hick got to click the button.
He go bye-bye.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
There you go.
No, I was a.
I can.
I can do it from the producertab.
Really good interview.
So this will be coming out.
We'll have the recorded versionof it stitched together from
the tech technical difficultieswhere we had to drop a couple of
times.
We'll have that stitchedtogether into one episode to
release on Wednesday.
And also want to mention oursponsor, jenna McCaffrey,
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This is, hands down, thebiggest convention I will have
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Speaker 1 (53:51):
We get to sponsor it.
We get a table.
We get to sit down, we get abooth.
Come see us at a booth.
We'll sign stuff if you want.
Maybe we'll charge, butprobably not.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
We will have some swag, some t-shirts and some
other things.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Maybe some giveaways too.
There will be some giveaways,Some games.
We're going to play a dice gamewith people, but more on that
later.
But reach out to us.
We will send you some goldentickets.
We have a limited supply, sofirst come, first serve.
I've already started sendingout to certain people, even
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So we want you to join us atCajun Con.
Hick will be at Creator Con andthere's a couple more cons
(54:26):
coming to New Orleans.
We're exploding with cons.
We are indeed Good.
More chance to meet people,that's right.
It's been great talking to you.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
Jay, likewise.
We'll see you next time, folks.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
See you.
All right, we're live .
Nola Film Scene is in the house.
He's TJ, he's Plato, he's Hick.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thanks, for having me , guys.
I think this is the second timeI was promised to be on Theo
Vaughn and I've been trickedagain.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It just keeps happening, man, I mean, how else
are we going to get the famousNick.
Cheramy yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I guess first time shame on you, second time shame
on me.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
So what you're saying is there won't be a third?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
yeah, of course there'll be a third if I'm
invited back.
If I'm invited, yeah, maybenext time we'll get theo on too,
just so he can go stop talkingabout me.
Hick, hick, how have you beenin the past two years?
Welcome?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
back.
I can't believe it's been twoyears.
Like it really hit me the otherday.
I was like, wow, that's twoyears ago and I think as we get
older, time just flies awayfaster.
I've been well.
I've been busy and lucky enoughto stay working.
(00:57):
Things are great, family'shappy, my partner's happy.
She made me a nice coffee withmy little halloween
jack-o'-lantern on it, which hasa content.
She started this the lasthalloween and I've kind of just
kept it all year.
But I've been good man, I can'tcomplain nice yeah, and we're
(01:21):
live on, we're live we're liveon my account in a minute but
I've shared the youtube linkeverybody follow.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Make some comments.
We're gonna see if we cananswer some.
We don't know.
We're still working the tech,come talk to us if we can break
away.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I don't know what the saints are doing right now.
If we can break them away fromthe saints game, I think it's
probably finished by now it's.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It was probably finished a little while ago, I'm
sorry to say, unless they cameback.
They were trailing, but they'restill scrappy, they're still
fighting.
So who dat, who dat, baby?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
LSU pulled it off yesterday.
Yeah, man, my alma mater is notdoing good this year.
This is the first losing seasonthey've had since I became a
student in 2019 or so.
Who's your alma mater?
Liberty University?
A student in 2019 or so?
Who's your alma mater?
Liberty University?
They're just struggling thisyear.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
But I digress, they do that insurance Liberty,
liberty, liberty, bibbity.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Different Liberty.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Oh my bad, but I mean , if they want to throw me a
commercial, you know, Bring itHick.
One of your new movies that I'mso excited about is the Foy
Pronounce it right, youpronounced it right.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
You pronounced it right.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And you've got some great Cajuns working in there.
You do, man yeah.
You do, yeah, a certain cook, acertain cook, cajun cooking
with Hoss.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Cajun cooking with Hoss.
Yes, cajun cooking, lost Hick.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
We'll keep going.
Hopefully we'll get him back onlive in his technical problems.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yep Technical, I mean one for technical.
My dad used to say one for noproblems, I wouldn't have any
problems.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's deep man.
I don't know the gentleman,cajun Cookerwood Haas.
I love his videos because he'llwatch people all over the
country trying to make Creoleand Cajun food and once he gets
frustrated, throw that in thelong grass.
And you don't put tomatoes ingumbo.
We all know that.
But God help you if you putthat Old Bay anywhere.
That's Yankee stuff and I amgetting it.
(03:19):
Oh, that was you sending it tohim?
Okay, I thought I was getting amessage from beyond.
By beyond, I mean my phone.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Y'all lost me, man.
I went to another dimension.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
You got thrown in the long grass.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I got thrown in the long grass.
But yeah, Cade Haas, he's agreat guy and they kind of
pulled him in on this becausehe's such an entertainer when it
comes to his videos.
He has a huge following andhe's a great guy and we we talk,
(03:50):
probably at least once a week,we chat, texting each other.
Yeah, he, his videos are sofunny.
And and the director of the FWAwhich, by the way, means
diarrhea and Cajun it's a, it'sa gumbo of genres, you know
horror and comedy.
And David Rabelais, thedirector, he brought in just
(04:13):
everyone local from influenceslike Corey Ledoux and Brittany
Boudreau, and you know, he justbrought in a bunch of great
people within the Cajun cultureand who are influential.
And when I kind of saw theproject, I was like man, I was
like I got to be a part of this.
So him and I connected and hewas like you know, he's like I
(04:36):
have no budget.
And I was like dude, like he'slike I'm not going to take up a
lot of time, I'm like dude, Idon't care, Like I want to go do
this, Like I'm like dude, Idon't care, Like I want to go do
this, Like I'm not worriedabout money, I'm not worried
about my time.
The scheduling was a littletough because the two leads in
it are Kristen Renton, who wasin a lot of amazing series she
(05:00):
was everything from In theStories to Sons of Anarchy and
then her partner, Nick Manning,from the New Orleans TV reality
series, Nightwatch.
He's the other lead in it.
So I got to work with them and,yeah, it's funny Like this guy
can write.
David can write.
He's somebody who lives withinour culture.
So I think that everyone whowatches this from here is really
(05:26):
going to get like every phrase.
They're going to understandprobably every joke.
They're going to understandlike just everything in it,
because it's just so deep inCajun and Acadian culture.
So I was excited to do it and Ihad a really cool role.
You know he's like it's kind offun, man, how God works
sometimes.
You know he kind of puts theright people in the right place,
(05:49):
because he's like it's kind offun, man, how God works
sometimes.
You know it's uh, he kind ofputs the right people in the
right place, Cause he's likelook, I have this role but this
will be like days to shoot, butI don't want to keep you, you
know, long and my schedule hasbeen really nuts.
So he had a role for me of theCajun archivist, who is the guy
who, uh, they go find to findout the history about the curse
of the foie, right, and he'slike man.
He's like can you do creepy?
Like I, kind of really I'm likebro, I got you, dude, like I
(06:12):
got you.
So I played this like reallycreepy.
I improvised a lot of what I didand it you know, there's not
much work.
I look at and I'm like man outgreat, but like it turned out
really great.
I seen a rough cut and, uh, itwas funny because, traveling
with Taryn who who's anothersocial media influencer and has
(06:33):
a really cool page and following, she came to set to interview
me and it was kind of coolbecause she got a lot of the
good networking opportunitieswith uh, meeting the director
and then meeting kristen andnick and that kind of spread off
for her to do, have more uhinterviews to be done and
content.
So we're interviewing and andshe's like so what's kind of
(06:55):
going?
Before the end she's likewhat's kind of like, what kind
of kind like, what's going ontoday, what are you going to do?
And I'm like I was like, well,they don't really have an idea
of what I'm going to do.
I was like we have dialogue.
I said I'm going to do this andI was like I'm thinking about
probably doing this and I'mprobably going to.
So everything I got to do waslike I really caught them off
guard with it.
So it was like just realnatural reactions to my
(07:15):
weirdness and I played like asavant, a Cajun savant of
somewhat of some sort.
Cajun savant of somewhat ofsome sort who just for some
reason ingest like in cajunculture, information like super
fast and and and I and I tend tojust absorb it like a sponge
and uh, yeah, I don't want togive the scene away too much,
(07:35):
but man, it was, it was so funand, yeah, y'all be looking for
the foie.
I'll go follow david rabel,filmmaker, and you got some
really cool stuff coming out andhe has other things planned out
in the future and maybe, justmaybe, we can get him on this
show and then you guys canconnect, because he does have
future projects and that's somereally cool networking possibly,
(07:58):
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Hey, let me interrupt real quick.
Are you picking up the Echo?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Brian, let me just hit, stop, because I can't
toggle on echo cancellation.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
In other words, we'll be right back, we'll be right
back.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
We're back.
I hear you now, and I don'thear us with an echo.
So tech problem solved, we'reback folks.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
We're back, we're back.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Thank you so much for sharing that, hick.
I'm not only going to reach outto the director but some of
your Cajun co-stars, because weknow I'm going to play a Cajun
in a movie we described on ourtwo-year anniversary special and
Yousef described it like aCajun.
Obi-wan Kenobi Like TonySachery meets Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I did, uh, I read that or heard that somewhere
actually, yeah, yeah, that'sfunny there's been some Cajun
projects lately.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I did an audition I think y'all probably auditioned
for the same project, I don'tknow if it was for the same
character but one of the one ofthe takes they wanted in a
little bit of a Cajun accentchanged.
I changed the wording of theone that I did in Cajun, you
know, because in in Cajunculture I always heard people
saying motorbike instead ofmotorcycle, like that was the
(09:09):
thing.
It doesn't matter if it's a bigfull Harley or a dirt bike,
it's a motorbike, a motorbike.
But in normal, you know, likethe way I grew up, motorcycle,
dirt bike, whatever, motorbike,whatever.
So I changed it.
I said motorbike for thatbecause the dialogue was
actually motorcycle, but forthat one cage intake I said
motorbike, you know, to make ita little more culturally
(09:32):
accurate.
Well, hey, why don't you talk tous a little bit about the
interview stuff?
Because when we started thispodcast I was coming off of a
film in Texas and it was myfirst time getting interviewed
on set like behind the scenesinterviews, and I was getting
interviewed with the guy thatwas my scene partner and he was
(09:53):
a YouTuber, so he was used totalking on camera and answering
questions and he had done a fewof those things and I felt like
a deer in the headlights.
I've been interviewed beforebut I just kind of felt like I
wasn't quick on my feet and Ithought, well, you know,
starting a podcast, it mighthelp if I'm talking to people
regularly.
So Brian and I talked about it,we got it going.
(10:15):
You agreed to come on and be ourfirst guest and I've since had
a few nowhere near the quantitythat you've had of these
interview style setups.
Can you speak a little bit tothat?
Because it's kind of weird,because they tell you don't look
at the camera.
But in an interview, especiallya content creation type
interview, it's a little bitdifferent and we talked a little
(10:37):
bit before we started todayabout that.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, you know I've done like.
You know, like this instance,instance, you know, if I was to,
when you're talking, I'mlooking at you and the camera's
here.
You know I'm saying so.
You can see, my eyeline isfocused like to you.
I have brian here in the middle.
But if I was like a while agowe're talking about like, when I
switched to saying like youknow where I'm speaking to the
(11:02):
audience, I looked up at thecamera to speak to the audience
and in the beginning of first ofall, I'll say this about
interviews Never in my lifewould I have ever thought that
people would have cared what Ihad to say at all.
Right, so I think in thebeginning, getting over that was
pretty tough for me.
Where people were interested in, maybe in what you're working
on, or people are interested inyour story.
(11:23):
Where people are interested,maybe in what you're working on,
or people are interested inyour story, or people are
interested in whatever sobrietyyeah, my sobriety and whatever
it may be.
And then, how did I come fromhere to here?
and yeah you know and and Ican't even count how many times
I've told that story, becauseevery different interviewer
(11:43):
wants a part of that story.
So you know I'm always tellingthat story.
And what different interviewerwants a part of that story?
So you know, I'm always tellingthat story.
And what I learned is ininterviews is you have a lot of
them who will send you questionsahead of time, and I don't.
I don't really care for that.
I don't want the, you know,premeditated answer type
question.
I really don't like to knowwhat an interviewer is going to
(12:05):
ask me because I feel like ittakes away from a natural
dialogue between the personinterviewing you and, you know,
the interviewee or whatever youmay be called.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
And I agree with that , and that's why we don't.
We don't send out interviewquestions.
We have some, some standardtypes of questions that we ask,
but it varies from guest toguest because everybody's got a
different background.
And I agree with you that's.
That's part of the reason wedon't do that, because I I feel
like it takes away from exactlywhat the point you're making
right now.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, it's just, it's more organic and and and I love
to be, you know, you know actsomething on the spot and not
knowing what it is, you know, Ithink that's you know.
Act something on the spot andnot knowing what it is, you know
, I think that's you know, as ahuman being, it's a challenge
for me and it just keeps thatdialogue, as I said, you know,
organic, you know.
So, in the beginning it was alot of interviews where you had
(12:56):
these questions ahead of timeand so what I learned quickly on
was just to tell the person I'mlike, look, just, I'm an open
book, ask me whatever you want.
Like I will talk about whateveryou want, like I have nothing
to hide, I have nothing that I'mshameful of.
So, just, whatever you want toask me, ask me.
But I think we were discussing,before I jumped on you and I
(13:19):
was, and Brian was, you know,these different style types of
interviews.
You know, I started doinginterviews back before COVID,
but it was still, you know, zoomor whatnot.
It was still all online, likewe are now, and I was basically
just doing interviews, like I amnow, and then it kind of, after
COVID, it kind of moved to somein-person stuff, right.
(13:42):
So, like in-person stuff, asyou were discussing or started
to discuss, is a lot different,because now you're having
dialogue with a person say, tomy right, I was just in doing
one recently but you're speakingto her followers and her
audience, right.
So I learned kind of at thebeginning it was kind of weird
because I would stay justengaged with the person and I'm
(14:03):
like, what is the audiencereally seeing here?
Are they really just seeing myprofile and they're seeing?
They're not seeing any emotionin my face?
They're not.
They're not really.
Are they really connecting withwhat I have to say?
So, as we kind of talked aboutearlier, you know, I've figured
out that I have to speak to theaudience also because I mean,
that's why I'm here.
I'm sure they interested inwhat I have to say.
(14:25):
But like, really, this person'sbringing me on to engage with
their audience.
And you know, that's when I kindof like I realized, okay, I
gotta talk more to the camerabecause, as you said, as an
actor, like one of our big rulesis we never spike the camera,
we never look straight into thecamera, like if I'm acting out
(14:45):
of scene and I'm talking to thisguy here and I'm like, yeah,
joe, I'm like, yeah, you know,I'm not going to be like, yeah,
joe, and joe's away.
I mean, you know what I'msaying.
So we have all these eye linesto follow and these characters,
especially when auditioning, andthey're just not there and we
have one reader, you know.
So I had to learn that it'sokay to look at the camera.
It's okay, really.
(15:05):
A little while ago we talkedabout this for a little short
break we had, as I was talkingabout it, yeah, david Robiley.
He's a great director, he's abrilliant writer, he does a lot
of funny stuff and this wasgoing to be a good one.
So y'all be looking out for thefoie.
You know what I'm saying.
So I'm switching to the cameranow.
(15:32):
Uh, but in the beginning Ididn't really know that concept.
Uh, as you said, I was kind oflike a deer in headlights
because first of all, uh, youknow I will be.
It doesn't happen, no more.
But I would be more nervoussitting down for an interview
than I was like on a film set.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Right, I remember talking to you when you were
scheduled to go do your firstpanel as an actor.
You got invited to be acelebrity panelist, and you were
.
You were a little bit nervousabout that.
Yes, yes, I was, I wasdefinitely.
You had done a lot ofinterviews up to that point
related to your sobriety.
But there's a whole differentfeel to it being in person when
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you've got all those eyes at youversus it is when it's remote.
Right now, it's just the threeof us, and who knows how many
people are watching remotely,you know yeah, you know, and and
it definitely is in person,it's completely different.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Now, like I still get nervous.
I was at a premiere at thebaton Rouge Underground Film
Festival last month maybe, wheremy film Evangeline was featured
there.
And like the getting up onstage and asking the questions
and Cameron will say like, likedude, like you had the audience
(16:37):
engaged, like I was, like I wasnervous.
She's like you can't even tellyou know.
And one thing about her is likeshe's like you can't even tell
you know.
And one thing about her is likelike this morning we had a
major primetime audition.
I did the first take and I'mlike, oh, that's good.
And she was like, let's tryanother one, you know.
And I was like, ok, so I didanother one and then, like we
(16:59):
played it back and she's likethis is the one, like this is
the one, like this is the one IfI'm going to, like this is the
one.
I'm like this is the one If I'min a book, this is the one.
I trust her with my life andespecially my career.
But she'll tell me she was likeyou didn't look nervous at all.
Now, next month is something newfor me and I know you guys are
big, especially Brian, are bigon these cons, right, yeah, yes,
(17:24):
and it's yes, number one, I'mhonored to be asked to sit at a
con as a celebrity guest, butwith that comes a lot of anxiety
.
I just can't see people wantingto come and get my autograph or
take a picture with me, andnobody might want to because
(17:44):
they might not know who the hellI am.
But that has really and Cameroncan testify to that in the past
couple of months has brought upa lot of conversations of of,
uh, doubt and anxiety.
Uh, I was like, okay, I waslike I got all this stuff
printed up, right, becausethat's what they do they get
(18:07):
this table.
When I have the whole bannerand the stuff printed up and, um
, you know, I'm like okay, so,like pricing.
So I was gonna like call billyslaughter, I'm like and billy
with like what chart?
And I was like you know whatman like I don't know if I'm a
charge, right, it's like 117investment for me.
And I'm like if anybody comesout to see like little old me
(18:31):
and what's something like nodude, like I just I just can't
see and and there's probablygonna be a lot of people are
gonna be like, dude, you need todo this and you need to chill,
you need to.
But I just feel like so blessedthat somebody would take their
time out.
First of all, they buy a ticketto go to this thing and then
like I don't know, it's so weird, it's I don't want to say weird
(18:53):
, but it's just so humbling tome.
Yeah, if somebody would come tome and it's like, hey, man, I
can get a picture with you.
I like you know, I want to getan autograph of this print or
this picture here, and so Idon't know how that's gonna go.
It's scary, you know, and andI've already put in my mind that
probably nobody's gonna comeand talk to me or or do anything
(19:14):
but that one.
It's new waters for me and it'sscary Usually.
I'm at a stage now in my careerwhere I don't get really
nervous about anything.
I mean, I did a guest star roleon a big television series and
I was not nervous about it, butlike this I'm like nervous about
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.
So I guess we're going to seein October if these things are
meant for me or or, or they not.
And I think the guy who runs it, davey, he's a great guy and I
was like super humbled andhonored when he asked.
Yeah, yeah, when he asked me todo it.
I mean that you know they talkabout us actors, the grind and
how busy we are, but like I seethis guy and I see everywhere
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he's at and what he's putting onand what he does and he's he's
a machine dude Like this is aperson that is very passionate
about what he does and you couldtell it's a very selfish
passion to have other peoplecome and enjoy these things and
and learn about whatever theylearn about there and and to be
(20:19):
able to to access things thatthey're not able to access and
like it's just I don't know,it's a beautiful thing and it
(20:41):
was one of the reasons that Iwas.
I said yes, you know, it wasone of the reasons I said yes, I
was like this is just a greatthing this guy does and to bring
all these people together, it'sjust a beautiful like thing.
I'm not in that world likebrian is.
I've never actually went to onewhere billy was at and I was to
visit with billy and josephfrom five nights at freddy they
were both there and christianstokes they were all.
All three of them were thereand I went to like support my
fellow actors and I ended upjust wrapping out with billy a
while and people were coming upto his table and joseph's table
and I went sit in on their paneland and listen to our panel and
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they're for support.
But what I seen was just a lotof amazing artistic human beings
, a lot of people with hugepassions for things that we
produce in the entertainmentindustry that we work in, and I
don't know man that didsomething to my heart.
I didn't, I didn't get it before.
I'm like what, what, what?
(21:23):
You know what?
Even I would see brian and I'mlike I'll get it.
Man, he's like so into it, he'sso into it.
Well, I went and now I know whyit's like this.
It like this, it's verycommunal, it's very family, it's
very and I just that was myfault for not so much judging a
book by its cover, but maybe notunderstanding the content of
the book before I opened andread it, and it was just it
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turned out to be a beautifulthing for me.
So when Davey did reach out,totally honored, scared, yes,
but honored, and I'm going to bedoing it next month for like
two days, I get to sit there anddo this amazing thing, this,
this opportunity that I'm sureother people would just kill for
, you know, to have opportunityto be a celebrity guest at some
(22:06):
kind of con, you know.
So that I'm nervous about andthat's new waters for me.
And you know, I still thinkit's going to be a great
experience and we'll see how itgoes.
You know, man, I'm just a dudefrom like the bayou who works in
the oil field, like that's it,you know.
So that's a little overwhelmingfor me.
(22:29):
You know, it's the same as TJsaid.
I think that's what brought alot of the fear and anxiety with
the celebrity guest panel.
I don't look at myself as acelebrity, by no means.
I mean, I don't think I'm not,like I act because it's therapy
for me, it's.
It's a different world now,because now people want to see
that character, people want tomeet that character.
(23:00):
So now it becomes a differentthing.
Yeah, I'm at no level as likebilly or or creek or christian,
as these guys who had these,really, but like it's still
scary, you know.
Yeah, of course, because it'slike I said, it's new to me, but
(23:21):
as the days have gone on and itgets closer and closer to this
thing not saying I wasn'texcited about it, but I keep
getting more and more excitedabout it.
I keep, I guess my gratitudecontinues to grow to be able to
attend something like that andexperience it from behind the
table.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Well, so I first let me say I don't think there's
anything wrong at all with beinghumble about it and maybe,
after you get there and getthrough this event and you're
not wanting to charge people forthe experience and you see
exactly what you just saidpeople wanting to see you for
some of the work product thatyou put out, that's, that's a
(24:03):
good thing at the end of the day.
That's what it's about, and I'mactually really impressed.
I mean, I I've known you for along time and that's one of the
things that stood out about youearly on was your humility, and
you didn't know me from Adam andyou were willing to answer
questions and help me out withadvice on self tapes and
(24:26):
auditions.
And I'm like man, you ever gotthis, what do you do in this
situation?
And you never acted like youwere better or too cool for
school to answer those questions, and I think that's really
going to carry you a long way.
It really is.
There's plenty enough peoplethat are jerks about it and it's
cool that you're not, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I guess this is the lingering thought of like I'm
not supposed to be here If thatmakes sense.
You know Exactly, I'm notsupposed to be here, if that
makes sense, you know, uh,exactly, well, well, no, the
imposter syndrome like, okay, sofar the con, that came back for
me, but as far as an actor,I've, I've gotten over that,
(25:08):
that mountain right but like Idon't think, I don't think I'm
talking about is for theconvention yeah, I don't think
I'm supposed to be alive, not ina grim way, but it's like the
life I led.
I'm like man, like God saved mefor something you know, and I'm
like I'm just lucky to bebreathing, like I'm lucky to be,
to get up every morning in thatbed, morning in that bed, and
(25:36):
I'm lucky to be able to get upat four something in the morning
and dress myself and go andwork 10 hours in the oil field
and then come home to anaudition and do this audition
and I'm beat and I'm tired andI've.
Thank God I have such asupporting partner because my
time is so limited with her.
Like you know, it was likegrocery shopping and then I had
(25:57):
a producer director doingwardrobe stuff and and and I'm
setting up for this and therewas a couple other things on my
an audition.
There was just things on thelist and then here I'm here now
you know.
So that's another thing too,like and I think we've discussed
this before is make sure thatif this is the road you take or
(26:20):
this is the life you want, thatyou have the proper support
system.
You know, especially the onewho's closest to you, and God
bless her man, because she hasbeen.
I mean, look, the girl's goingfor her master's right now.
She is a full time as anacademic advisor.
You're still muted, brian.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
We might have lost him.
There's no red dot in hiscorner.
There's another tech issue,folks.
We can see when someone's fullyengaged with the internet.
When their computer is here, hecomes.
We think he's going to belinked together.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, it'll all be one solid episode.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
We're back.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, sorry about that guys.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
No, not your fault.
I did want to stop you becausea couple of things you said.
You don't know what yourpurpose would be, and at least
one is you are an inspirationfor those struggling with
alcoholism.
I don't know how many have comeup to you how many will come up
to you, but you are shininglight in that.
You got out of that, yousurvived it and you strived.
You became something great Idon't want to say became
(27:16):
something you know realized yourpotential.
It'd be a better thing In thecon world since that's my world
and that's Comic-Con, not beinga con man I think you should set
up your table and just talk topeople as they come by.
A lot of times, people behindthe table just sit down, just
say, hey, how you doing you knowfree photos with you and you
can charge like $5 or $10 forthe pictures.
It's your time and you've paidfor those pictures.
(27:41):
Now, if they're not selling andpeople don't want to do that,
then you can drop it down.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
If I do make any money, I'll donate it into
charity.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
That's fine.
I'm not saying you're going toget rich off of it.
My thought is break even onwhat you spent, right, but you
don't make enough money, youknow, between the films and the
stuff that's your thing.
I don't think you shoulddevalue yourself from the start,
even though you're not seeingit like that.
You're worth probably more thanfive bucks, but that's my
opinion on it, not much more.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So thank you for those kind words and that those
suggestions and that advice, wewe are also getting our own
table, tj and I, at Cajun Con,which we've talked about.
We're going to have a littlebit of merch.
My signature is terrible.
I bought a calligraphy thing tolearn to do a thing, not that I
want to.
I've been asked once whensomeone found out I was deaf, tj
, have I said that I was in Billand Tiff, you were a guest.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Photo double right.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I was.
I don't know how you found thatout.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I've heard it once.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I haven't signed any autographs.
I haven't been up to that level, but I wanted to be prepared
for it.
So at some point it's almostit's like when someone wants to
give you a gift and you're likeno, no, no, that what they enjoy
giving you the gift.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
So someone asking for your autograph means that they
like you.
Yeah, so it's, it's, it's.
It's happened like I mean, I'mmale, I'm male headshots out
pretty often.
People reach out, they're like,you know, and cameron does a
great job at, you know, printingthem up and I'll sign it, write
a little note and and she'll,uh, you know, get it all packed
up and get everything mailed offand you know, so that was
something kind of to get used to.
(29:20):
People were like, hey, you know,like, do you have a headshot
with your autograph?
And then, I think it was liketwo weeks ago, there is this ill
child and they are doing abenefit and I can't make it
because I'm going to be on setnext month, or this is November
for a film, or next month.
I got a, I got a film I'mfilming in October and I got a
(29:40):
film that I'm filming inNovember, sort of like, can you
donate like an image of you froma film or from a whatever, like
which signature?
Like we want to auction it off,and I was just just like, oh,
my God, like of course I can.
So you know, I've, I've, I'vekind of done that.
I've just never charged anybodyfor it.
Uh, yeah, it was.
(30:01):
It was kind of like um, like Isaid, man, it was it's it's all
new to me, but I'm excited.
I'm excited to and I'm justthat type of person, brian, like
you were saying, if people comeby say, I'm just that type of
person that likes to converseand have conversations.
So I think I'm going to be okaywith that part of it.
But you know, I've been prayingabout it and meditating on it
(30:25):
and I'm excited to do it.
And you know I'm just going togo do what I do.
I'm going to show up, suit up,show up and be there.
So I'm pretty excited about it.
But before we were going, umgot cut off.
I was going back to Cameron,you know.
So these long days we're talkingabout the support.
Both of us are like worn out,like worn out from our day.
(30:46):
And then you have that personthere who's like and look, I'm
gonna be honest, it could bemajor network, it could be
independent film, it could be acommercial, it could be whatever
and I'm just like oh, I waslike, I'm not feeling this, like
I'm tired.
I've been up since 4 am andshe's there and she's like this
is what you do, like rememberwhy you do this.
This is what you do.
And she'll be like look, I'mgoing to start supper, get in
(31:09):
that room, get yourself set up.
She's like we're going to readover.
She's like you did your scriptbreakdown.
We're going to read over.
She's like and then we're goingto go in there and we're going
to do what you do.
So make sure you have thatperson or those people in your
life that support this lifestyle, because it is not an easy one.
It is nonstop.
You won't hear nothing forweeks and then all of a sudden
(31:31):
it's hammering down on you andthe stuff you get outside of
your agent doesn't stop.
For the stuff they get, agentLife none of it stops.
The interviews won't stop thewhatever it may be, it just does
not stop.
It's ongoing and it's constant.
And if you're not havinganything come to you, you're
working on stuff and you'reworking on you and you're
(31:52):
working on your methods andyou're working on your methods
and you're working on whateverit is you got to work on to make
you a better actor, to help youaudition better, to help you
break down a script for scriptanalysis better.
It just doesn't stop.
But you have to have that.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yep, I agree tenacity is the key yeah, yeah, you
gotta relentless.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
It seems like it hasn't really slowed down for
you at all.
For me it has come to all but ascreeching halt.
It just hasn't picked back up.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
For me, really the last year audition-wise there
are hundreds and hundreds ofother actors, a lot of actors I
speak to, who are just there'snothing for them right now, you
know, and there's nothing thatthey they early on in their
(32:43):
career, so they haven't reallyhad a chance to build up when it
was popping and, and you know,so they, they, it's stagnant.
You know, and and trust me,like I have my months of being
stagnant, you know, like I cameoff of a film in April, right
before the film boom, big AppleTV audition, boom, big Hulu TV
(33:04):
series audition.
I didn't book neither one ofthem and then I went and I
filmed this film, uh, in Aprilof this past year.
And because of my work ethic,because of my acting, because of
bringing me on to their nextfilm, I'd assigned contract
about a month ago that I startto film in November.
(33:26):
Director, writer, the DP alllove me, they're bringing me
back.
So that's what led for thatfilm.
And then, out of the blue, youknow, I had really not a lot of
auditions this summer.
I spent a lot of time just inthe oil field, one every few
weeks.
(33:46):
Maybe it would pop up a littlecommercial work here, there, you
know, a little ad work here orthere, but I mean nothing like.
I mean weeks and weeks andweeks without nothing.
And then, sure enough, likerecently today, major Apple TV
series audition, the other day,major TV series guest role
audition, a guest star audition,you know.
(34:07):
So that just came in like awave and then I just signed a
contract two weeks ago.
I'm filming a film playingJoseph Poliquin's uncle in a
film that we leave for nextmonth and film that you know,
but, like from May till, I think, they reached out to me and we,
in September last month, end oflast month, nothing, you know
(34:31):
nothing.
I mean it was crickets and youknow, this is what I've learned
is that when it's crickets,that's the film, gods, casting
director, gods, whatever youwant to call it saying, hey,
work on you.
So what I did was I spent a lotof time just working on me and
and, and you know a lot of and alot of insight, stuff of inside
(34:52):
stuff, you know, and how couldI use more of me and my acting
and things that?
I'm like man, I'm learningthings, auditioning that, and
I've booked some really greatgigs, but I'm learning things
and auditioning that wasn't evendoing before because I got to
spend time with me as a humanbeing.
You know so I was able to do alot of like research within self
(35:14):
, you know.
So this thing is like sobriety.
It's kind of weird and I alwayssay this, and I just said it in
an interview that just aired isthat it costs right and the
rent is due, like every day, nomatter if you're hitting on
something or you're not, you'restill paying your dues in some
form every day to this craft.
(35:36):
And that could be from truelife experiences and really
stepping aside and reallylearning about what you just
experienced as a human being andkind of retaining that and
remembering and learning from it, because you're going to have
an audition in probably five orsix months from now and you're
going to be like man.
This character kind of wentthrough what I was going through
at this time, yeah, and like Iremember how that made me feel
(35:58):
and I'm glad I really dissectedthat feeling and I'm glad.
I'm glad I really stored ithere and here and can use it now
in this moment where it'sneeded.
So that cricket time is when youreally do a lot of your work.
Right, for me it is, it's when Ido a lot of my work.
It could be in school.
(36:18):
You know what I like to call itis living life on life's terms
and learning from that.
That's the school right.
We can get taught all thattechnical stuff with acting
right.
We could get taught eyeline andwe can get taught lighting and
having the proper backdrop, andwe can get taught all that stuff
that when we start to use ourhuman experience for our
(36:39):
characters.
For me it's truth and that'swhat I want to be truthful, you
know.
So those times are important.
They just as important as youbeing on a film set.
I truly believe that's from myown experience.
It's it's it's using thatdowntime to learn who you are,
who you are as an actor, who youare as a human, you know, and
(37:02):
taking those experiences, I meanlet's we all open and we fringe
tj that downtime where you seepeople close to you booking or
you see booking.
How did that make you feel?
I?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
feel discouraged.
Before the strike I wasaveraging four, about four
auditions a week and I've hadthree in the last.
Well, since the beginning,since January, I've had three.
I've had two callbacks.
I did one commercial.
I feel like I got pretty closeon this last commercial audition
(37:35):
I did, but I'm just not gettingauditions period.
In the last year I think I'vehad maybe five and all but one
have been for commercials.
I'm not allowed to self-submitfor auditions.
Now if it's a project thatsomebody's advertising on
Facebook or something like that,I can reach out to a director
(37:56):
but I still have to pass it bymy agent.
But as far as getting auditions, it's just not happening.
I mean, I'm happy for peoplethat are getting the work and
doing stuff and of course I'vedone projects, but it's all been
personal projects that somebodyhas done.
I say that I've had three frommy agent.
(38:17):
I did one audition for a film,a short.
My daughter was doing her veryfirst film audition.
It was a live Zoom and thedirector knew, or the filmmaker
knew, that I was an actor and hesaid, hey, do you want to read
for something?
And I'm like, yeah, absolutely.
He sent me a side real quick.
I read it and I booked it.
(38:38):
But that that kind of thingaside, I'm just just not getting
them right now.
Yeah, and I don't.
I don't know how to affect thatchange.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, and I think that change has a lot to do with
the industry right now.
Man, you know, and I'm sure Iknow myself and I'm sure Brian
can relate, and you can relate,as we're tired of that excuse
the way the industry is, andit's just, it's what's happening
in the industry right now and Ithink that's where a lot of our
(39:13):
faith has to come to, where wesay, you know what, like, let me
trust this process.
You know you said you feltdiscouraged and that's okay,
that's completely justified.
You know it's important wedon't sit in discouragement and
it's important we use thatdiscouragement to our advantage,
right, so, you know it'spicking up a book and studying a
new method, it's researchingother, different audition
techniques.
It's taking that discouragement, that feeling like I talked
(39:35):
about earlier, and using that ina future role that will come up
for you.
I promise you.
It always does.
It's going to come up for youand never forget how you felt
during this period in time.
You know, and it may be justyou having to make some
different choices with agents ormanagement or whatever it may
(39:56):
be, because we all got toremember, at the end of the day
it's business.
You know.
I think that sometimes we forgetthat, we forget that this is a
business and the people above us, that's what they care about.
Is money Right?
And at the end of the day, whenwe do a project, I mean
(40:19):
honestly, I love my craft, Ilove the, I have a passion for
acting, I love acting.
It's why I did the flaw, youknow.
Like I didn't have to go to myagent with that because I didn't
make no money.
Anything I make money on, I goto my agent, no matter if I book
it or not, like or she does orI do or whatever.
Like that's just a mutualrespect that her and I have.
It's for me it's just goodbusiness, of course, you know.
(40:40):
But uh, yeah, man, it's okayfor you to feel that.
And, and, and I want you toknow, you're not alone in that,
because I have a bunch of actingfriends and there's just I mean
, you think about it, man, lookat the productions we have
nothing going on.
Like we have nothing big goingon.
We don't have a lot of thingsgoing on, and you have places
(41:01):
like I mean you guys look like I.
Rarely I self submit Like Ijust the other day I was having
a conversation it was BrianBrian's like hey, did you sue
this thing on actress access?
And and I'm like I was likedude, I'm terrible at opening up
that app and looking for roles.
Like I feel like that if, ifthere's a role for me that my
(41:22):
agent doesn't find, they'regoing to come to me and think
I'm right for this.
And I've been lucky enough thatpeople have come to me and
they're like, hey, I've turneddown probably about four or five
films in the past three monthsbecause I'm and they came to me
like man, I have this role, thisis you.
Like you, this is, this is yourrole.
Like I wrote this and I feellike you wouldn't do it, but
(41:42):
like I got to think of it asbusiness too.
You know, okay, I'm nottraveling here for free.
You know I'm not buying, goingto spend money on wardrobe.
I'm not.
You know, whatever it may belike, if my agent don't find it,
I'm not going to look for it.
Like I'm just not.
The fly was a culturalattraction.
I had to it.
(42:03):
Uh, I read it.
It was the guys just comedic.
Timing and writing is amazing.
So I was like I got to be apart of this.
It's my culture, it's my, youknow.
So sometimes, man, like you justhave to trust that process and
kind of sit back and enjoy, likereally enjoy that time.
I'm not going to lie to you, man.
Sometimes I sit back and I'mlike, please, no auditions this
(42:25):
week.
And I know that sounds horrible, but like sometimes, sometimes
like I want to come home afterworking 10, 12 hours in the oil
field, take a shower, eat supper, spend time with the woman I
love, and like not hear aboutacting.
You know, I'm not saying thatbecause I don't like acting.
(42:45):
I'm saying that because I loveacting but I love my life too.
So I feel like when I don't getan audition and I don't hear
nothing for a month, two monthsor whatever, that's God saying
like okay, here you are, you'rehaving the time to build real
and new human experiences.
I'm giving you the time to readand become more knowledgeable
(43:05):
on your craft and I'm like youknow what I trust that Now, in
saying that, I'm not going tosay that I don't feel
discouraged, right, but it helpsme overcome that discouragement
.
It really does, you know,because I have that faith.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, I think you exemplify an attitude of
gratitude and I think that'ssomething that will get you
through, because my part I mighthave had 10, 15 auditions for
the whole year, maybe a littlemore, and I've booked one thing.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
That's a good ratio number bro, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I'm happy to book.
I'm not complaining and we'veall talked about this offline.
But I wanted to use it as anexample.
I booked it in August.
It was scheduled for August andgot rescheduled for September,
and then I got the notes on it,I got the call sheet, I got the
wardrobe.
Three hours after getting thatemail I got another email saying
it was canceled or postponedagain.
I'm like what the hell's goingon?
And I'm frustrated and my wifesaid it seems like they're, you
(43:58):
know, screwing with you.
How long are you going to letthat happen until we shoot?
Yeah, you know, vacation comingin October celebrating my 18th
wedding anniversary.
I don't want to do it on that.
The rule is if anything makesme SAG eligible, I'll skip the
vacation.
If it's non-union, let's seewhere it lands.
You know what I mean Because,like there's a two part to our
(44:20):
vacation, the first part is alittle more expensive, so I
don't want to have to.
I think I can get a refund, Ithink I can save my money, but I
don't want to lose my money onthat.
But I have to if I have to.
That's the job we chose.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, it is.
You know it is the job we chose.
You know it's.
It's the months without hearingnothing, the year without
hearing nothing.
That's that we went into that,not not knowing.
You know, and, and TJ, you diduse your time wisely.
You went and and you did otherprojects where you got to work
on your craft of acting, youknow.
So.
You know, and you have thisshow Y'all been doing interviews
(44:53):
, which has to do with acting,you know.
So like you're still stayingbusy.
It might not be the busy I wantsometimes, it might not be the
busy Brian wants, it might notbe the busy you want sometimes,
but like we have to look at, youknow, going back to gratitude,
that we have something to staybusy.
You know I mean remove acting.
None of us ever heard of acting, none of us ever studied acting
(45:13):
, none of us ever wanted to bean actor.
We're not actors, we're justthree dudes talking and I want
you to take your everyday lifeexperiences like a job.
And then the time you get tospend with your family, you have
to look at it kind of like that.
You know you have to look at it.
That you know.
This is what I make time forhere.
What's important to me here?
Well, my family's important tome here.
My job's important to me here.
My job helps me support myfamily.
You know, and that's what youreally have to concentrate on is
(45:35):
that, and it's fitting thatacting in that, you know, and
you look at like, okay, look atall these things, what's more
important, right?
Well, it depends on what youbelieve in.
For me, it's God, then it'sfamily, then it's acting, and
it's always going to be that.
It's always going to be that.
(45:55):
Now have I made some sacrificesbefore for family over acting,
absolutely, but I made sureeverybody was cool with it.
I have that discussion and thenI have to make sure that I'm
still being that loving fatherand I'm still being that loving
partner and I'm still being thatloving partner and I'm still
being that hard-working,dedicated, loyal employee.
If I am going to do that, inother words, everybody's going
(46:16):
to get that version of me loyal,hardworking, you know, and so
on, you know.
So I mean trust the process,man.
It's not worth going crazy over, it's not worth beating the
crap out of ourselves.
Far, it's great, there's a lotof cool opportunities we have.
It's a passion we have, it'ssomething we love to do.
(46:38):
But at the end of the day, it'snot everything you know, it just
isn't.
You know, sometimes I thinkabout like man, I moved to the
countryside of France and justdisappear, just me and my loved
ones, and I'd be completelyhappy.
I'm not saying there's a littlepart of me that would be like
(46:58):
man.
What could I have done in thefilm industry?
That's always going to be there, it's a part of this.
But you have to look at whatyour priorities are and in
reality for me it's God, family,acting.
That's it and I always keep itlike that.
If acting's not going so good,guess what?
I got God and family, andthat's always going to go good
(47:19):
for me.
God and family, right.
If you have God and you havefamily or whatever your higher
power is, if it's the universe,whatever you believe in, and you
have family, your supportsystem, your true foundation of
the man you are and what youbuilt, or woman you are and what
you built, or whatever you areand what you built, then guess
what Acting is going to be justfine, rather it's full force, or
it's not Right Because you havethose things above it.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeah, that's a really good outlook on that and I feel
, I mean, I feel the same way.
For me it's it's the same samefamily and then work.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, and you know what?
I don't care what interview I doand I don't care what it does
to my reputation and what itdoes to my career, but I will
always talk about I'm herebecause of God.
It might be my concept of God, aGod or a higher power of my
understanding that I choose tocall God, but I will always
because I'm here.
(48:11):
I'm here alive, talking toy'all because of my faith and
what I believe in, and that'snot something I talk a whole lot
about, but I always, alwaysmake sure to mention it, because
I wouldn't be y'all would haveno interest in talking to me if
I was just some random oil fuelworker who wasn't an actor,
right?
But God had allowed me to beataddiction and he allowed me to
(48:34):
get rid of all these characterdefects and he allowed me to be
a better person and to be lovingand compassionate.
And then he said you know, I'mgoing to give you a gift to go
and tell a story, right?
So without that, I mean, let'sbe real, Neither one of you
would want to have me on liveright now if you didn't know me
(48:55):
well, not about an actingpodcast, but we'd still love you
you're still around therebecause you, truly, I'm looking
to be.
You get the point I'm makingright, you know, like, uh, we
would have never met throughacting and and I would, I would
just not be here, just like Iwould have been in that
interview the other weekend orthe past ones, or a con or or
whatever you know.
So I always, uh, alwaysconcentrate on that and always
(49:15):
concentrate on my faith and Ialways concentrate on on my why.
You know, we forget thatsometimes, like what's your why,
the why man is so important andwhy?
Speaker 1 (49:26):
why do we have to run out of time?
It's been a great talk.
I wish you could go on foreverand I know you could talk and I
know I could keep talking, butTJ's ears are starting to bleed
Nah, not me.
It's been great having you onagain, my friend.
We'll have you on again inanother two years.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Before that yeah, man , let's do a.
Yeah, let's do every everytwo-year thing, but, uh, I'm
sure, yeah, thank y'all forhaving me, man, I'm grateful
that y'all used your time awayfrom your families and from
sunday afternoon to to sit hereand and chat with me.
I'm super grateful for that.
And uh, yeah, man, I uh gotmovie next month, movie november
(50:06):
, and then hopefully just a veryquiet christmas and I thank for
all three of us and my otheracting friends that you know, I
truly, truly am manifesting thatwe all have a prosperous, not
only in our personal lives, butmost, you know, which is most
important, but our actingcareers, that we have way more
(50:27):
opportunities and we succeed inour goals in 2026 that we have
for ourselves as actors For sure.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Don't give up on 2025 yet, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Yeah, we'll drop Hick .
We'll drop your socials in thein the thing below.
Spell for the non-Cajun Frenchspeakers in the audience.
Spell the name of your film.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
It's called the Curse of the Fois F-O-I-S.
So be looking for that and it's.
Yeah, I just want you to know Ihave a very pivotal, but not a
huge role in here.
This is about the two maincharacters and them going on
this journey to find out what'sactually going on and the
(51:13):
history of it, and I'm gratefulfor David Ravale for letting me
be a part of that and he workedme in just in time, enough for
me with my schedule and, yeah,I'm excited about it.
Thank you so much for promotingit and talking about it, of
course.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Thanks for coming on, my friend.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Thank y'all, man.
Y'all have a blessed Sundayafternoon.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
You as well.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
You have a good.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Monday.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
I'll try, Brian, we'll stay on after he goes for
just a minute and plug oursponsor.
Oh cool, Bye.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Hick.
See you, hick.
Hick got to click the button.
He go bye-bye.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
There you go.
No, I was a.
I can.
I can do it from the producertab.
Really good interview.
So this will be coming out.
We'll have the recorded versionof it stitched together from
the tech technical difficultieswhere we had to drop a couple of
times.
We'll have that stitchedtogether into one episode to
release on Wednesday.
And also want to mention oursponsor, jenna McCaffrey,
(52:10):
attorney at law.
She is currently running aspecial for anyone in the
entertainment industry.
She is a personal injuryattorney.
She doesn't do contract law oranything along those lines.
She can direct you to somebodyif you need that type of help.
But if you're injured and notjust in the entertainment
industry, but if you're in a carwreck or you're injured,
(52:30):
whatever the circumstancebecause she is an actor, she's
offering a discount to people inthe entertainment industry to
come talk to her.
Her consultations are alwaysfree and she will work very hard
to get you what you deserve.
Yes, and we also will have hercontact information linked down
below and it's on all of oursocials, so she's pretty easy to
(52:56):
find.
Jenna McCaffrey, attorney atlaw.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
If you can't find her , come to us on socials and we
will send you over to her.
That's right, we'll get you thehelp you need and also.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
Thank you Sorry.
Thank you, Jenna, forsponsoring the show.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Thank you, we really appreciate it.
Because of her sponsorship,that allowed us to sponsor Cajun
Con and we've got goldentickets to give away.
So it's a two-day con and thesegolden tickets will get you in
for both days for free.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
So reach out to us.
Go ahead, it's at the LamarDixon.
I talk for a living.
It's at the Lamar Dixon.
I talk for a living.
It's at the Lamar Dixon.
What is it called?
Convention Center Lamar Dixonand Gonzalez.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Cultural Center.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Cultural Center.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
Check our posts.
Check Cajun Con's posts.
Check out their social media.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
December 6th and 7th, correct, and there will be a
lot of celebrity guests at thatevent 80 celebrities.
This is, hands down, thebiggest convention I will have
ever gone to, and we get tosponsor it.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
We get to sponsor it.
We get a table.
We get to sit down, we get abooth.
Come see us at a booth.
We'll sign stuff if you want.
Maybe we'll charge, butprobably not.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
We will have some swag, some t-shirts and some
other things.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Maybe some giveaways too.
There will be some giveaways,Some games.
We're going to play a dice gamewith people, but more on that
later.
But reach out to us.
We will send you some goldentickets.
We have a limited supply, sofirst come, first serve.
I've already started sendingout to certain people, even
ordering special envelopes toget it out to them.
So we want you to join us atCajun Con.
Hick will be at Creator Con andthere's a couple more cons
(54:26):
coming to New Orleans.
We're exploding with cons.
We are indeed Good.
More chance to meet people,that's right.
It's been great talking to you.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
Jay, likewise.
We'll see you next time, folks.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
See you.
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