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November 13, 2025 50 mins

In this heartwarming episode of Nomadic Diaries, hosts Doreen Cumberford and Megan Norton-Newbanks welcome Hiroko Bell, a Japanese adult third culture kid (ATCK) and passionate advocate for cross-cultural families. Hiroko shares her remarkable geographical journey, from Japan to the US, England, and back again, before settling in New York City and embracing her multi-layered identity.

Key Topics & Highlights

Belonging to New York City

  • Hiroko reflects on finding home not in a physical location, but among family and community—a concept captured in her song “I Am Me.”
  • Japanese TCKs and 'Kikokushijo'
  • Unique Japanese term ‘Kikokushijo’ and its evolution: from describing children struggling to reintegrate after living abroad, to being viewed as global assets.
  • Educational and emotional challenges for returnees, especially regarding language tracks and stereotypes.
  • Importance of translating TCK resources and raising awareness in Japan.
  • The Role of Language and Identity
  • The complex relationship between language proficiency and cultural belonging, illustrated by personal anecdotes and the nuances of bilingual/mixed families.
  • Empowerment & Mission
  • Hiroko’s commitment to affirming TCK strengths, advocating for visibility and belonging, and empowering future generations through language and awareness.
  • Song Highlight:
  • Hiroko shares the story behind “I Am Me,” written to express the TCK experience and the emotional journey of finding home and identity. The episode closes with a moving excerpt from the song.

Songwriter: YUSHIO

Lyrics: Hiroko Nagata Bell

Singers: Minori Therrien Imai, Yaji Tomo, YUSHIO

Produced by Okannooto

Find Hiroko at:

https://www.instagram.com/uptck.jp

https://youtu.be/bXv6Kt1t8gM?si=fYzpoVSEkCOZCqOH

https://www.linkedin.com/in/hiroko-nagata-bell-6457811/


Here is a short excerpt from the song.Where are you from?

 It’s an easy question
 But not for me
 Here, there or nowhere, I don’t know
 
 I come from different places 
 Mix of words
 Mix of norms
 I wonder if I’m all mixed up
 
 Am I more like my dad
 Or more like my mom
 Or maybe neither 
 Where do I belong?
 Who am I?
 
 Made up my mind
 Won’t worry no more
 I don’t have to be like anyone else 
 Don’t define me
 Don’t confine me
 I am ME
 
 Where’s your home?
 It’s an easy question
 But not for me
 Here, there or nowhere, I don’t know
 

 
 


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