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September 23, 2024 77 mins

Summary

In this episode of the Non Judging Breakfast Pod, Leif and Steve, joined by special guest Jake Marchion (@Jake.marchion), discuss Season 2, Episode 6 of Gossip Girl, titled "New Haven Can Wait." The hosts dive into the ongoing rivalry between Blair and Serena as they vie for a spot at Yale. They explore the comedic and dramatic moments, from Chuck's secret society schemes to Nate's flirtations under a false identity. The trio also touches on themes of friendship, ambition, and the pressures of elite education. Along the way, they share their thoughts on the episode's writing, directing, and character dynamics, while offering insights into the show's cultural impact and behind-the-scenes trivia.

Keywords

Gossip Girl, relationships, college, drama, characters, fandom, plot, Yale, rivalry, secret societies

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Initial Impressions

05:14 Guest Introduction: Jake Marchion

10:02 Discussion of Yale and College Visits

18:45 Blair and Serena's Rivalry

24:32 Chuck's Secret Society Shenanigans

30:16 Nate's False Identity and Flirtations

35:09 Dan's Struggles and Humiliation

40:12 Jenny's Ambitions and Rufus' Resistance

45:18 Blair's Desperation and Sabotage

50:27 Serena's Unexpected Success

55:34 Final Thoughts and Predictions

01:00:00 This Week in Fandom

01:05:42 Episode Grades

01:10:00 Stock Watch

01:15:00 Best Outfits

Produced by Leif Capicola and Steve Marchion. 

Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.

The Gossip Girl Theme Performed By Steve Marchion.

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Leif (00:00):
So he gives her the clever alias of
Dan Humphrey again.
Why are you flirting with a high school kid? You
know that this kid is in high school.

(00:29):
Hey, Upper east siders and all you scandal of listeners out
there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast
pod, where the coffee is strong, the
waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than
ever. My name is Leif, and I'm your seasoned gossip
girl veteran.
And I'm Steve, your newbie, your greenhorn
here. I don't know, Leif. What do you call the new kid on

(00:50):
the block when they're around season two of Gossip
Girl?
Well, not everyone wants to be Blair Waldorf because
not everyone can be Blair Waldorf.
I mean, that is fair enough. I will just
continue to idolize from a distance.
Sounds good.
All ah right. So here's the deal, folks. Leif has been
watching Gossip Girl since it first started, and

(01:12):
I'm watching the series for the very first time. And together,
we're your dynamic duo, bringing you all the
drama, romance, and sometimes questionable
fashion choices of this iconic
2007 series.
That's right. Each week, we're going to be taking a deep dive into
the show one episode at a time. We're going to analyze
all the parallels, obscure references, and, of

(01:33):
course, the couture catastrophes. We're also going to be looking at
fandom stories and some of the behind the scenes gossip along the
way.
And, since we're all about inclusivity here at the non judging
breakfast pod, there's always room for you at the non
judging breakfast table. So go ahead and grab your
mimosa, a cup of coffee, or some of nate and
chuck special medicine, and let's get started.

(01:54):
Yeah. So we are not here alone. We are
here with another guest today. A few weeks ago, you got to meet
the wife of the pod. So now we have the
son of the pod, Jake Marshawn.
Say hi, Jake.
Hi.

Jake (02:08):
I'm Jake.

Leif (02:10):
Son of pod.
So, Jake, what is your history with Gossip Girl?

Jake (02:17):
I watched till about, like, season three or four, and
then I, like, got distracted by other shows.

Leif (02:23):
Yeah, a lot of people do, tend to tune out about
that point.

Jake (02:27):
I have seen a good bit of it. I never really finished it, but
I've seen, at least to this point, for sure, a few times.

Leif (02:32):
So without spoiling, who
are your favorite and least favorite characters?

Jake (02:38):
I'm huge on Dan. I just love Penn Badgley as a whole.
So you and all of those shows.

Leif (02:43):
Yeah. You were a fan of Penn Badgley before for gossip?

Jake (02:46):
Like, I saw, first episode I was like, oh, my God, this is Penn Badgley.

Leif (02:48):
Yeah. When I introduced Jake to it, he was like, wait, that's Ben
Badgley.
And, yeah, Dan is not very popular in
fandom. I. Yeah.

Jake (02:58):
Love him to death.

Leif (02:59):
Yeah.

Jake (02:59):
I also.

Leif (03:00):
He's my favorite character, but, I understand why, you know,
the target audience is not really a fan of him.
Wait, who's Dan? Sorry, I was just playing on the whole
thing that nobody knows who Dan is.

Jake (03:10):
I also, I was. I did. Chuck grew on
me eventually. I did like Chuck in the future.

Leif (03:16):
Yes. He's entertaining. He
was very entertaining.
I mean, even at this point, after his glow up,
his season one glow up, and they.
Yeah, they definitely do a lot to make him a
sympathetic character.
Yeah.
Anything else going on before we get into the
episode?
I was gonna just bring up that now I'm
one episode behind, but I think all of us

(03:38):
also have been watching Chase
Crawford's other show right now.
We're indeed. Yeah, I do
love the boys. We are.
Speaking of the boys, I love the boys.
I do love that he is once again just
like this. His greatest
attribute, really, is being hot and so

(03:58):
much so that the one
character is willing to lobotomize herself to
be into him for one time,
like, once at a time.
But, yeah, I don't know how I feel about
this season. It's, like, not any worse, but
it kind of not really going anywhere for me right
now.
I feel like it's also they.

(04:21):
I feel like they really tried to, like, pull back the
curtain on the, like, on the
metaphor, and it's very
much, very.
They did finally notice, if you paid attention to the
backlash online. Yeah, they did finally notice. We
were making fun of them the whole time.
Yeah. Laughing. Laughing at. Not with,

(04:46):
So in this episode, I don't know if you noticed,
but all the exterior scenes that were
Yale were actually floated at Columbia.
That. That's really funny, and I did not know
that. So they shot it at Columbia. Was that all of
it, or was that just like, what about the,
like, the b reel and, like,
the, you know, still shots of the

(05:07):
buildings? Was that also
Columbia?
Yes. And if you've seen Gilmore girls, that I think is
Stanford playing as Yale.
It'S so great that they're like,
no one's going to know the difference.
No one is going. The number
of people who would know that this is Columbia,

(05:28):
not Yale, aren't watching Gossip
girl.
Shocker. There's a lot of people in New York watching Gossip
Girl.
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah. And the forums, they did totally recognize it.
Oh, did they? You know what? Oh, yeah, because they're
all, like, upper east siders and. Yeah, of course.
That. Yeah, that's even better.

(05:50):
So we are here to talk about season two,
episode six, new Haven can wait.
original episode aired on October 13,
2008, and it was based on the
movie Heaven can wait.
Yeah. Is that. Wait? No, I'm thinking of my blue
heaven. Heaven can wait is. Oh, that was the
one where the. The guy is reincarnated,

(06:12):
right?
I have not seen it, but the Wikipedia
description says is a
1978 american sports fantasy
comedy drama film directed by Warren
Beatty and Buck Henry about a
young man, played by Beatty, being
mistaken, taken to heaven by his guardian angel, and the
resulting complications of how this mistake can be

(06:34):
undone given that his earthly body has been
cremated.
Okay. I have never seen it.
I have only seen. I remember going
to my. My parents would drop me off
at west coast Video, like, all the time,
and they would, like. Whenever a popular movie came out, it
started with dirty dancing. They were like that. They

(06:56):
called up, and they're like, no, we won't reserve a copy of it. You need to
be here when it comes in. And they just dropped me off and
waited for me to. So they did this all the time. And I would look
at all of the covers, and that's one that I remember seeing all the
time. That was a long way to say that.
So the gossip girl wiki episode
description. Following a fight

(07:17):
with Blair, Serena decides to get even by ditching her
plans to visit Brown and accepting a personal
invitation from the dean of Yale to visit the school.
After discovering that his recommendation letters for Yale
were never submitted, Dan frantically tries to
figure out a way to salvage any chance of getting accepted into the
school. While visiting Yale, Chuck is

(07:37):
kidnapped by the group of skull and bones members,
and Nate hookup hooks up with a student who may hold
the key to Dan's acceptance. Pretty
accurate description.
Yeah. Yeah. It's not as
spicy. Yeah.
Ah, I miss Bayless.
Yeah. Did he just stop watching season two?
Yes. Maybe.
Those Bayless descriptions were fantastic.

(07:59):
This episode was written by Josh
Saffron. He's taken reins already.
See? Starting to take control of the show here.
Yeah. Yeah.
Quite a few episodes in season one. Bad news. Blair,
17 candles, high society,
and, woman on the verge. And he also did summer. Kind of
wonderful.
Yeah. And it's funny cause he has some good episodes and some

(08:19):
bad episodes.
Yes.
Right. Like, woman on the verge was one of the.
What?
It was the better of the Georgina
Sparks episodes, but it was
still not great.
Yeah.
And then. Yeah. Bad news. Blair was never
one of my favorites. That's the. That's the fashion shoot, right?
Yeah.
I really liked that one.
Yeah, I was. I always kind of felt.

(08:39):
Especially the end scene.
I. Yeah, the end. The Dan and Blair scene,
and also.
The serena and Blair at the end when they steal the
clothes.
Oh, yeah. And they did the vash and shoot throughout the city.
Yeah.
And then. Yeah. 17 candles was the,
Blair's birthday party, which is. That was decent
one. And I. Society was obviously one of the best episodes in season

(09:00):
one.
Yeah. Yeah. And I really liked the
birthday party one. I remember I liked it more than you did.
Cause it's very. It runs through, like, every dating
cliche.
Yeah. It was directed by Norman
Buckley. Back again did Handmaiden's
tale, thin line between Chuck and Nate, and much I
do about nothing. All, well directed episodes.
Yeah. excellent episodes for the director. Thin line

(09:23):
is still one of my favorite
episodes, except for the Rufus stuff,
but, like, I can't blame him for that. That was just really
bad writing.
So we get into the episode.
We open with another Blair Audrey
dream sequence. Blair is
Eliza Doolittle from my fair lady and

(09:45):
interviewing for Yale. However, her meeting was crashed by
Serena.
I love it. I love it. What did you think,
Jake?

Jake (09:54):
I thought it was pretty wacky, but in a good way.
It was very, like, out there. It was funny.

Leif (09:59):
Yes. This is one of the Audrey movies I have not
seen, so I actually.
Saw this in, like,
middle school. We had to watch it. My middle school
English. My middle school music teacher got me
into theater. You know, it was her.
It was watching the. The movies that she showed us

(10:19):
that got me into, like, theater and stuff.
And was the movie a m musical as well?
Yes. yeah.
Was Audrey Evans singing, was she in.
My fair lady, or was she in pygmalion?
She's my fair lady, because my fair.
Lady is a musical. Pygmalion is the
non.
Why? No, I know there was a musical theater, but I didn't realize the.
The movie was also a musical

(10:41):
with her.
I'm 99% sure it is, unless
there's two versions of it and she. And it's not her version,
but although I can't remember her
singing, I wish I could. Other than the rain in Spain
is mostly in the plane, but, yeah,
I'm pretty sure I thought it was
get.

(11:02):
A gossip girl monologue. Rise and
shine, early birds. Gossip girl. Here.
We all have dreams of some good some
bad and some fun and freudian
and some are, dreams we've had our whole lives.
Blair awakes from her dream to breakfast served by
Dorota. Blair is excited to visit Yale and

(11:23):
is aiming to get an, invite to Dan's private
dinner party. She is ready to escape
Serena.
I love Dorota here. Dorota just always the
supporting, like, caretaker. I am
so proud of you. Like, when she says, I am so proud of
you, it's just like, you feel it. It, and she
means it, you know?

(11:43):
Where would Blair be without Dorota?
Yeah. Yeah.

Jake (11:47):
Dorothy's, great.

Leif (11:47):
What are your feelings on Dorota?

Jake (11:48):
I love Dorota. I think she's one of the best, and she's just
never a bad moment for Dorota.

Leif (11:54):
Yeah. And she's one of the best people on
the show, you know? And, I mean, I feel like the show kind
of says. Is saying something with that, you know,
that when you have they. I feel like they try to
make Vanessa one of the better people on the
show. I think that they don't always do a great job.
Dan started out as a good person.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

(12:16):
I don't think they always come through on Vanessa, but I think it's sort
of like writing smart characters. To write good
characters, you've got to be.
Well, she's trying to be a good person, but they also tried to
force her into a world that didn't want her.
Yeah. Yeah, very much so.
And she had no place, really.
Yeah.

(12:36):
At a different park avenue penthouse, lily
is wondering why Serena is turning down a personal invitation
to toriel. Despite last week's
events, Serena is still being protective towards
Blair.
And now I, feel like we
see this with Serena throughout the episode where it's
this reluctant

(12:57):
going after Blaire that, like,
that she's not. I feel like she's not really owning what
she's doing with some of it by the end of the
show. At this point, I mean, I think it
even makes sense, like, yeah, we are rivals now.
We, like. But Serena's whole thing was,
I'm no longer going to worry about your feelings

(13:18):
when I'm taking care of me. Serena has never
cared about going to Yale.

Jake (13:22):
Yeah, she really didn't want to go to
Yale at all until Blair told her she couldn't.

Leif (13:27):
Right? Yeah.

Jake (13:28):
She had no interest in it, and then Blair said that she didn't have what it
takes, and that's when she was like, I'm gonna go to Yale.

Leif (13:34):
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
I thought she kind of did.
this whole conversation with Lily. Like, she kind
of did, but she just knew it was a bad idea. She knew it was a bad
idea.
Yeah, well, and I felt like the kinda did.
And again, this is just a college visit, right? You could
take more than one.
Yeah. Yeah, and I.

(13:54):
Especially if you got their kind of money.
Exactly. And I think that Serena's.
I think that the reason that Serena was kind
of interested is because of the
lengths they went through to send her a handwritten. Yeah, I
mean, you know, if I got a handwritten note from
a college, I'm. I'm gonna go
there. Like, from the dean?

(14:14):
Yeah.
Like, yeah, see what.
See what they have to offer. I love how.
I love how tv treats dean like
principal. Like, in every.
Every situation, I'll send you to the dean's
office.
Like, there are several different deans.
I've never met a dean, at least not
in my four year, five years in college.

(14:35):
I never once, I don't think, met a dean,
except. Or at least not in a professional setting. Like, I
think I've met a dean.
Like, Blair admits to Dorota
that she hasn't spoken to Serena in a week, so, there's
still that. They haven't talked since the fashion show.
Yeah, I heard Michael Kors named a
bag after her. It's like,

(14:56):
dorota timing. timing
Dorota.
But maybe Derota is trying to force. Force the issue.
Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Cause she always has
Serena's back, too. Like,
Naroda, ride or die. Yeah.
Yeah. Gotta love Toronto for the best interest of the
kids. Like, that's the thing, is that it's all in the. Like, she

(15:17):
is the one person who always has
all of the kids best interest at heart.
Yeah.
Lily likes the sexy black dress that was set over
for Serena.
That was definitely a Serena dress. With how much cleavage was being shown.
Yeah, I know. I know. And I
do. I do love the dress. And she

(15:38):
pulled it up. Yeah. I will talk about
that later.
Whoa.
What's up? Misses bass.
At the loft. Dan and Rubus are discussing what it takes
to get into Yale. Rufus seems
naive. Oh, you're. You're the best dad. I'm
sure you'll get in, and if.

(16:00):
You don't, that's something wrong with them.
how little you know about, especially Ivy League.
I do feel like Rufus is trying to do some solid
dadding here, though. Like, I think that Rufus, you
know.
I mean, he's trying, I guess, but, I mean,
he's swinging. He's not going. He's
not going down looking.
Of course he's going to be encouraging and he's going.

(16:22):
Of course he'll be encouraging and
enthusiastic. It's Dan. It's not
his other child.
Yeah, yeah. we'll get.
Yeah, yeah, we will.
Chuck and Nate are also discussing college
plans. Nate wants to get away from his family, and
Chuck wants to join the best secret society.
I love that. Nate is. Yale is now Nate's

(16:44):
safety school.
Yes. What did you, what did you see,
Jake?

Jake (16:50):
I mean, from that part there, I didn't really get a whole much,
but I did find it funny that they were saying,
like, that Yale is a safety school
for anyone at all and that Chuck
is trying to join a secret society. Like, it doesn't surprise me
at all for Chuck. It's, like, perfectly on brand for him.

Leif (17:07):
I think this is Chuck's best scheme so far.
Date.
By the way, is this the first secret society that's been
mentioned in the show?
Yes.
Okay, so let's start keeping a tally.
Okay? Oh, that's. That's really fun.
and I think it's the first mentioned, but it's the first we've
seen for sure. But, like, just.
I'm going. I'm judging colleges based on their

(17:29):
secret societies, and I'm just. And now,
the skull and Bones is, like,
allegedly a real thing, right?
Oh, it definitely is a real thing.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and it's still in
operation or whatever. Yeah. You know, you have these
things, at other schools, too. But I just. I
love that. I love that.
You know, it's so on brand for Chuck to be looking into

(17:52):
that for schools. Again, this is the best Chuck
scheme because, again, didn't see it coming
at all. And, man, is
he. Yeah.
But of course, Chuck wouldn't go to college, right?
Why would he? Well, I mean, I could see Chuck going.
Going to college, right? And
taking all just bullshit classes

(18:12):
and just so he can say he went,
but also just to be a part of the campus. I could
see him, like, not really going to
college, but tag along with a.
He is actually a bit neater. Enroll.
Yeah. Yeah.
Have either of you seen the movie the skulls with
Josh Jackson and Paul, Walker?
No, but I heard of it. Is that what it's

(18:34):
about? Yeah. Oh, okay, there.
Yeah, they're at. I think they have. It's
Harvard instead of. Yeah, maybe it's. Yeah.
But, Yeah. Who's the woman
actresses. The actress
from Coyote Ugly. Piper Parabo.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't remember her name, but I can see her
face. Yeah.

(18:54):
It's not a great movie, but it's. It's kind of
funny. The students are getting a
lecture on maintaining the school's reputation on their IB
visits, and Dan and Chuck trade
insults.
When they said, we're going to spend the weekend together, I was really
hoping for more. Dan and Chuck
together?
Yeah.
Although I think that everything I.

(19:14):
Again, I love the whole. I love everything Chuck did
in this episode on, on a. On an
objective level.
Did anyone notice Nate in this scene?
Yeah. Yeah, because he was standing right behind them.
Right. What was he doing? Was he doing something? No.
he was doing absolutely nothing. And I recall
in an episode one season, season one episode, you had

(19:35):
talked about how Taylor Mobson was not involved
in the scene at all, but she was always doing something bad.
Her presence was always chased.
He was just standing there looking blankly forward,
the whole scene.
Yeah.
Zero reaction.
Yeah. I do. I do remember. I know
exactly what you're talking about, and you're right. And, I mean,
again, it's like Taylor mums momsen came

(19:58):
into this show with a different level of acting than
anybody else.
Serena tries to offer an olive branch to
Blair, who promptly douses the branch in gasoline and
lights a match. Serena starts firing back. But
not everyone could be Blair Waldorf.
Yeah. It's so funny how every one
of their fights is Blair just,

(20:18):
like, on the offensive for something she doesn't have all the facts
about. And if Blair would just chill for, like, 2
seconds, they would get along so much better, but
at the same time, also, blair. Fuck you. You
pen. Like you're gonna shit on Upenn here. And
when with our Philadelphia, podcast
here. Upenn is an ivy fucking league
school. My Robin, it's all.

(20:41):
It's only the holy trinity.
Robin. Robin has her graduate degree as
her master's from.

Jake (20:47):
And I actually agree, like, wholeheartedly here because Penn's my dream
school.

Leif (20:50):
Yeah.

Jake (20:50):
So it's like, what the hell?

Leif (20:52):
Yeah. Jake is. Jake dreams of grad,
school. Also at Upenn, Jake is
starting college in the fall, which is why we should have maybe
mentioned that, why this is a fun episode. Cause Jake just
got done doing this.

Jake (21:06):
Not at yale, though.

Leif (21:07):
Not at. Yeah.

Jake (21:10):
a lot less drama with it. No secret
societies. I wasn't tied to anything.

Leif (21:15):
Excuse me. You actually absolutely went
into a secret society of
sorts. The frat Alpha chi rho
is a fraternity, and they definitely have.
It's not. I wouldn't say it's a secret society, but it
has secrets.
None we want to hear.
None you want to hear.

Jake (21:34):
I wasn't kidnapped or anything. That's.

Leif (21:36):
You were not kidnapped.

Jake (21:37):
That did not happen.

Leif (21:38):
Like the episode they duct tape your buns
together.
No, no, no.

Jake (21:42):
They did nothing. They're not. I was not tied anything or no
bags over my head.

Leif (21:46):
No, no.
Look out. Be. There's a cannonball coming your
way in Brooklyn, Jenny is
trying to use Vanessa to convince Rufus to let Jenny
work and homeschool. Thankfully, it appears
Rufus Vanessa redship is trending back towards
appropriate levels.
Yeah, trending back

(22:07):
toward. But yes, Rufus, has zero
interest in, like, you can
tell right then and there that he's like, yeah, I'll
go do this thing. That's how I'll send you back to school.
Yeah, but like I said, like, you know,
he's. He's always supportive
of Dan's writing. 100%.

(22:28):
Yep. Yep.
That's why you. You were number nine
on the ten most forgotten list.
We move into act two. We hear
there's nothing like Yale in October. The crisp air,
the turning leaves the invasion of prospective
freshmen. Better hurry up, lonely boy.
Your future's waiting. Dan is first to

(22:50):
bat in the dean of, Barabe's office.
Dan is told he needs to hit the english
department to earn himself a second letter of
recommendation. Dan may be regretting
not writing that Chuck story.
Yeah. Kudos to you and your
thesaurus, mister Humphrey.

(23:14):
He has improved his interview skills, I have to say.
Yeah. Oh, yeah, from. From his last interview. Like
that. when I was in
college, a professor talked about, like,
do not. This is, you know, spell check in the
online thesaurus. These things are brand new. And she
said that she was reading a kid's paper about going to
college and getting depressed, and it was on depression,

(23:36):
and it would in, like, the depression, they go into the
sadness, they go into the concavity
that they go into.
They were just using the thesaurus and found another word
for a, depression.
Chuck and Nate are lazing on campus.
Nate spots a cute co ed and switches into

(23:57):
pursuit mode. Chuck is black
bagged and kidnapped.
I love this. Did you have anything?

Jake (24:04):
I mean, Chuck getting kidnapped is just so funny.

Leif (24:06):
Yeah, it is so great. Also, Nate
just totally picking up a, ta. Like,
has to be an upperclassman to have enough
poll to go get signatures and letters of
recommendation.
Yeah. And he just.
And he just. From across the
way, it's good to be Nate Archibald. It
is.

Jake (24:26):
Or in this case, Dan Humphrey.

Leif (24:28):
Yeah, or, yeah, in this case, Dan Humphrey.

Jake (24:31):
And I love that whole, like, I'm Dan Humphrey thing. It
reminds me of how I met your mother when Barney pretends to be Ted
Mosby for a night.

Leif (24:38):
The Ted Mosey sex detect. Yes.

Jake (24:41):
Ted Mosby, sex architect.

Leif (24:45):
I let my kids watch how I met your mother at
a wildly inappropriate age, and it's my favorite show,
much like how my dad let me watch shit
like revenge of the nerds when I was a
preteen.
Blair, is waiting for interview when Serena emerges from
the dean's office, who seems quite smitten with
Serena. Blair is severely

(25:07):
outgunned in this war with Serena.
Yeah, I knew who he was talking to before the door
opened.

Jake (25:15):
And then, Blair's jealousy when she gets in there, when she's, like,
saying how. Like, she's just obviously going
on about Serena. Like, my hair doesn't sparkle when the sun hits
it.

Leif (25:24):
how bad is this assistant? Like, why is she. Why would
she say that about, like. Oh, I've never heard him laugh like that.
Years.
Yeah. Why would you say that to somebody sitting outside
shitting their pants? Like, someone
visibly defecating on the floor
right in front of them?
Yeah, this. This assisted. And this is the
only bad thing she does in this episode.

(25:45):
She.
She's. She has every scene. Basically. She's a
baddeene person.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nate, ah, is flirty with new girl Jordan. Nate
finds out his family name is mud, thanks to the
captain, so he gives her the clever
alias of Dan Humphrey
again.
Why are you flirting with a high school kid? You

(26:05):
know that this kid is in high school. You know that
this kid is at least
two or three years young. I mean, I would think it has to. He has to be
at least three or four years younger.
Like, you are gonna be at least a junior.
At least a junior for having
the poll that she has. And just this
high school kid from across the way. Oh, hey, cutie.

(26:28):
I mean, he does look 25.
He does. He does. And he's a
cutie. I mean, I'm not. I'm not gonna deny that.
Nate Archibald.

Jake (26:38):
I just don't understand. He could have used any name
at all.

Leif (26:41):
Yeah.

Jake (26:42):
And he chooses Dan Humphrey.

Leif (26:43):
Right? But he uses the name that no one is gonna know.
Like, it goes back to the. No one knows Dan Humphrey.
So the. And. And we talk a lot on
here about how Nate is just sort of a, really easily
led dog, right? Like, he's not.
He's not. He's got great grades, and he's a
great student, but he's not a bright guy.
He's not a great thinker. And so

(27:06):
when you. When you hear Nate Archibald and
it's like, what is the one name no one is going to
recognize?
But Dan's not a nobody anymore.
He's definitely a somebody now.
Right. But to Nate, he's the closest thing to a nobody
that Nate probably knows.

Jake (27:22):
And especially with the writing. And
he's with the girl, the ta of the writing
department. Yeah, like, those. Those things are obviously
gonna cross, and they do.

Leif (27:32):
Yeah, well, he also. It seems like he was taking on the whole
damn Persona, like, trying to pretend he was a writer.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So cute,
Nate. Yeah. Cause that was kind
of one of those things, which we get to later is, does
she know Dan Humphrey as a writer, or does Nate
tell her he's a writer?
But either way, Chuck is being recruited

(27:53):
by the skull and bone society. Seems they want
Chuck for his party throwing skills.
I love. I love that Chuck from the
git is like, I'm just going to go out
there and sit here, and they'll find
me. And he was right,
and they did. I love that.

(28:16):
Blair is perfect on paper, but she has
trouble opening up to people. Her traditional
image might not be what Yale is looking for anymore.
Blair is channeling nervous Dan and kisses the dean
on the cheek.
Did you, when you met you that professor at
Lockhaven, did you give a kiss on the cheek before you?

Jake (28:37):
Yeah, I actually watched this episode the night before, so I thought that
you were supposed to kiss the professor.

Leif (28:41):
You were supposed to. Yeah, that is its tradition.

Jake (28:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I got rejected.

Leif (28:46):
Oh.

Jake (28:48):
gotta find a new school.

Leif (28:49):
Okay, so apparently this scene was lifted
right from the books.
Oh, was it? Yeah, that's also.

Jake (28:55):
I just think, like, with Blair not being able
to find a single thing about herself that, isn't
on paper is, like, wild.

Leif (29:04):
Well, I think it's sad, and it's like. Cause
Blair makes a comment, everything worth knowing about
me is in the folder. I made sure of it.
And it's not true. Like, she does have
stories, she does have other, but she can't
think on her feet like that sometimes.
Well, and also, it's also, you know, about
how thorough she is.

(29:25):
Yeah.
She puts everything that she wants to put out
there.
Yeah. And so to pivot
into tell, me a story about yourself,
it's like, you know, tell me a story. Cause that last girl was in a
fashion show.
I fucked my boyfriend's best friend in the back of a limo.
But we were broken up.

(29:48):
yes, Serena admits that she came
only to punish blair. But now that she's here, she
likes it. Serena gets invited to the dean's dinner
party, much to blair's chagrin. The new
old serena is just a kiss on a lips. A, cold,
hard bitch.
I I
for one, why can't you both go to Yale? Like, like, why is

(30:10):
it yours, blair? Why is
yale yours and not both of you? Now I
also. Now I do understand that part of it
probably really is blair is sick of
living in the shadow of serena her whole life, and now
it's her time to get out from under Serena's shadow.
But, like, also, it's a big

(30:31):
school.
Well, that I think also, part of the problem is, like,
a lot of these feeder schools, like
constances, they only. They take one. It's,
like, guaranteed at least one person's going to get in
that, you.
Know, that kind of. That goes along with the,
ivy. Poison ivy episode. Yeah, okay, that.
Okay, so because I remember there being

(30:53):
the one person gets to, like,
escort them.
But again, it seems they want
Serena that bad. Couldn't she just say, like, oh,
I'll come if my best friend can come to.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that.
That would be too simple.
Exactly.
Also, strike two for the assistant. Why would you

(31:14):
tell her this is my last invite? What. What's.
What is the purpose?
Yeah.
Why?
Yeah. Oh, hey. I'm just letting you know you're getting the
last invitation. Yeah.
Yeah. Terrible.
At the atelier, Rufus is hovering like a
weirdo. Rufus, asks Eleanor to be the bad guy and

(31:34):
fire Jenny, but Eleanor rightfully laughs in
his face. So bad.
Rufus.
Yeah. What a dickhead. Did you have
anything? Jake?

Jake (31:44):
I mean, he's just.

Leif (31:48):
It's not Dan.

Jake (31:49):
Yeah, he can't support her.

Leif (31:51):
No. I fucking
love Eleanor here. I
love her. You had dreams when you were 15. If
they all started coming through, would you just put them on
hold? I'm not gonna
fire your kid.

Steve (32:06):
This is a young person's game.

Leif (32:07):
She's doing everything I want her to, like. Yeah.
Get him, Eleanor.
Chuck and serena bump into each other walking
around campus. Chuck divulges blair's
strategy to. For dinner to serena.
Chuck and serena's diabetes. So creepy, considering
their history. But I can't help but cackle at the

(32:28):
banter.
I love. Yeah, I love it.
They're hilarious.
Yeah, they're great. and it
is creepy, but that's chuck. I
also really liked, here
we see again that Serena is getting
information that she doesn't necessarily want. She
doesn't she's still not outwardly trying

(32:49):
to sabotage blair. She's just trying to beat
blair. but then she gets the information that can
sabotage blair. You know.
Nate is making out with Jordan and her dorm room.
Nate has ridiculous game because he's giving all the wrong
answers, and yet it somehow works.
Or. Or Nate having to answer

(33:11):
questions about books.
But, I mean, like, at the same time, like,
there is something to saying. Like, I tried reading
that book, and I couldn't get through it. And, like, I'm a
writer, and I love reading, obviously,
because that's why I want to go to Yale, but I couldn't read that
because it bored me. Like, wow,

(33:32):
that's really a strong opinion on something, which,
you know.
Yeah.
Which is also like. But, I mean, it is a thing
about people who study English. As you
know, like I mentioned last week, I
fucking hate Hemingway. I
always have. He's a miserable old, He was a
miserable old man who hated youth and

(33:54):
life and
happiness, but.
He sure could turn a phrase.
God damn. But he was such a good writer. Like, he is.
He fucking turn a phrase. Like you said, he
was such a good writer, but I hate everything he's
written.
Dan knocks on the door looking for help getting a
recommendation. Dan unwittingly blows up

(34:16):
Nate's spot.
Dan, you snitch.
You.

Jake (34:21):
You had.

Leif (34:22):
You had the moment to play it cool.
Yeah. So this is,
like, chase leaning into his skills here. The
comedy of the. Like, standing in the back, like, no,
no, no.
Yeah, yeah.
I,
Yeah. Again, like, give me more
bunny Nate. Yeah, like, when. When he gets
to be funny, he's great. Yeah, like, when you give

(34:44):
him good banter. When you give him good.
Like, yeah.
Yes. Put him on some rom coms.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe a bromance or two.
Yeah. With.
With a leading lady with
two arms and two legs.

Jake (35:01):
Yeah.

Leif (35:01):
And not nothing aquatic. Nothing
aquatic.
The boys spin off romantic
comedy.
She had eight legs and lived in the ocean.
Dad and Nate are arguing. Dan is
upset about Nate borrowing his identity. Nate

(35:22):
is tired of Dan's judgment and a constant chip on his
shoulder.

Jake (35:25):
I feel like it's very valid for Dan to feel the way he
does.

Leif (35:29):
I thought they were both had valid points in this scene.
Yeah. Yeah.

Jake (35:32):
I feel like Nate's was a little less so
than Dan's because he did, like, steal his identity.
Yeah, 100%.

Leif (35:39):
Dan definitely had the moral high ground here.
Yeah, the bro high ground.
He had the moral high ground. But then where Dan made
the mistake was taking it to the same place he
always takes it, which is the upstairs downstairs thing.
Yeah, that really did not matter in this,
this conversation at all. But he just always

(35:59):
goes back to that.
Yeah. I also need to say
that when we talk about Dan being a good
writer and good with words and stuff like that and how we often make
fun of it, but in this case,
synonymous sex was one of the
best fucking
drops. One of the. And it's just a

(36:20):
throwaway line, and I kind of caught it the first
time, and you, and I don't think you catch, many people
would catch it if they're not watching with the
subtitles on. But it, like, the synonymous
sex. Like, it was such a
great line, and I just. I cracked
up when I saw that.
And here comes strike three for the assistant.

(36:42):
Blair bribes the dean's assistant into giving her the
address of the party. It's like, give it out with
porcelain.
Yeah. Yeah. although I. This is the
Blair that I love. This is the Blair that I've always
loved, is the. I'm going to find
the person who can get me the thing I want and get them the thing
they want. You know, like, and, and, like, okay,

(37:04):
this woman is obsessed with porcelain cats. I can afford
all of these cats that she owns.
Where can I go find a. And
you know that Blair just went and was like, okay, porcelain cats. What
is the most rare porcelain cat
that I could find right now? What is this woman going
to want? Like, I love it. I love that point.

(37:26):
As you mentioned, this is the player that, you know, gets what
she wants. And gossip girl takes notice
because poorest she should know bees rules by
now. When someone leaves you off the list, don't get
Madden. Get in.
I love that. Don't get mad. Get
in.
Rufus is impressed with Jenny's skill, talent

(37:47):
and responsibility. However, that is not enough to sway
him. Jenny acquiesces, but asked to
run one last errand.
Rufus is such a dick. Like,
I'm. I was so, like, I knew
this is what was. What it was gonna be. I knew what he was doing
at the start. And again, this is a very predictable

(38:07):
storyline in it, but it's
like, But it's so
disappointing for. For him
to, again, be so supportive of one
kid and then just be ready to rip everything
out from under the other one.
Yeah, I agree. And this is
something I don't think I thought of until
this watching. Did Jenny plan

(38:30):
this whole thing? because
when they get there, she's like, oh, I forgot to put this in the garment bag.
So we have to bring it back.
I kind of wondered that, too. and
I. And, you know, yeah. To not.
But, like, Lily wasn't supposed to be there,
but, like. Yeah, I
feel like there was an element of Jenny kind

(38:52):
of laying groundwork to be, like,
I can at least.
And then she gave the excuse to leave the room.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's smart. She's what she's doing.
She's. She's a smarty pants. At
the dean's party, Blair and Serena continue to
argue. Blair's world is
crumbling.

(39:14):
Yeah. Again, if she wasn't always on the
offensive, if she would have just come in there
and. And just been, like, you're here
to. Yeah, I made my way in. Well, okay. And then
I.
You know that anyone catch
the song the, string quartet was playing?
Okay. I heard it. It was very

(39:35):
squeaky, and I couldn't place what it was because I kept
getting distracted by, like, did
you recognize it?

Jake (39:41):
I did not know it was, used.

Leif (39:43):
Time is running out.
Okay. All right. I knew I recognized it, but I
couldn't.
I really liked it.
Yeah. I actually, seen it
did work for this scene.
I. Yeah, I guarantee you
that was an Alexandra pastimus choice there.
Oh, was it?
I was just guessing.
Yeah. Yeah.

(40:04):
Chuck one ups the beach boys because his party
has three girls for every guy,
but that's not enough. The rich elites want revenge
and demand Nate's head on a platter. Will chuck
turn on his boyenne, one of his three
loves?
Yeah. I mean, obviously not
like, I knew then that, like, you have

(40:25):
the thought of, like, Willie, but, like, well.
I didn't think the first time, but then, like, then, like, the second
instance, I go, it still looks like he's gonna do it. It's like, wow, is he really
gonna do this? And then. But then.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Blair gets back in the game when she
connects. correct. Serena's french. Then blair
uses her father's alumni status to get a what up

(40:46):
on serena.
Yeah. this is. This is such a throwback
to poison ivy. Yeah. Like, this
exact thing from. From that
episode.
Nate tells Chuck you will be at mike's bar, and
chuck tells him to stay put. Is Chuck really
going to do it?
Yeah, I I feel like the first time I

(41:07):
was watching, I was like, no way.
At this point. Still, like, there's no way he's actually gonna do
that.
Serena uses knowledge by watching Henry cavill
on the Tudors to win the next volley with blair.
However, it looks like blair might have another trick up
her sleeve.
Yeah. I mean, I kind of expected blair

(41:28):
to switch the cards from the start.

Jake (41:31):
Yeah. When she was staring at the card in the basket after
Serena put it in.

Leif (41:35):
Yeah.

Jake (41:35):
And why would Serena just leave it there? Like, just put it in and walk
away?

Leif (41:38):
Like, you know, blair's doing, but. Yeah, I mean, that's
what they were supposed to do, but also. Yeah, you're. Yeah.
oh, wait, wait. It's the last minute.
Yeah.
Chuck didn't betray Nate after all. He just
pointed them towards Dan Humphrey, who gets the same
black bag treatment from earlier.

(41:59):
Poor Dan.

Jake (42:00):
I just feel so bad for Dan.

Leif (42:01):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is not his trip.
Nah, nah, not. Not a good trip for Dan. Oh, but he
might. Might. Got a new friend.
Yeah. Yeah.
At the dinner, Blair switched Serena's card
to read Pete Fairman.
Serena, though, managed to spin it, or at least attempts to
if Blair wasn't going to going kamikaze on

(42:23):
her.
Yeah. Like, Blair, how are you? What are
you thinking? Like, you're ruining
your shot at, Yale.
Just. She's not saint. Yeah,
she's not a saint person.
Yeah. And you're like. Like, this party you're
crashing to try to impress this
person. You're just. You. Like,

(42:44):
you don't look good at all.
And, what's funny is that I didn't recognize the name Pete
Bearman at first. I. They did
not do a good enough job of.

Jake (42:53):
Really, I did not.

Leif (42:54):
Hammering.

Jake (42:55):
I watched it so long, so I was like, who is.

Leif (42:58):
Yeah. The person that she didn't kill. Yeah. The person
she passed cocaine to.
Once outside the party, the argument heats up
and gets physical. Ding,
ding, ding, ding.
Yeah, it's like they're both kind of right here. Like,
they both. I get both.
They're both pretty horrible, and, they're.

Jake (43:18):
Both terrible at fighting.

Leif (43:20):
Yeah.

Jake (43:20):
Like, that had to be the worst of any
type of, like, mma wrestling
anything I've ever witnessed in my whole life.

Leif (43:28):
I mean, the next time we see them and they're cleaning up, neither of.
No torn clothes, no messed. No, their
hair is both pristine.
Blair missing her headband.
Blair is missing your headband?
And that.
And that's it.

Jake (43:45):
So does that mean Serena won the fight if
she got Blair's headband off?

Leif (43:50):
I believe so. That's like, a decrowding.
Yeah.
Lily is admiring herself in Serena's black dress
from earlier. When Jenny and Rufus arrive. Rufus
channels Keanu reeves when he sees Lily walk
in wearing the dress.
Jenny offers to pick out a different pair of shoes,
which conveniently leaves Lily and Rufus alone.

(44:13):
Even Lily is on Jenny's bandwagon here.

Jake (44:15):
I feel like. Like you said earlier, Jenny knew what she was doing.
Like, she leaving Lily alone to convince him.
Yeah, this was a little planned.

Leif (44:23):
You know, she wasn't planned for the start. She was definitely thinking in
that moment.
Yeah. Yeah. And
I, It's also great because it is a
more organic meeting of Lily and
Rufus, where before it was Lily just kind of
shoehorning herself back into Rufus's life,
and he was like, nah. And

(44:44):
now here and Lily, when she's like,
I'm always happy to see you. and it's
like, man, Lily knows that she made a
mistake. Lily, you know,
and at least, you know, Bart
was a mistake at this
point. I feel also, I hope, Willie.
Frisk Jenny after she came out of her, closet.

(45:08):
Or. Or would it be more likely that Lily would be
like, meh. Yeah, she probably
wouldn't care. Yeah, I know. oh, those are only
$30,000 chanel shoes.
I don't know. Chanel makes shoes. I don't think they do.
The, ones in the shot were Jimmy choose.
Yeah.
At the bar, Nate is still waiting for

(45:30):
Chuck when the skull and Bones brothers walk into the
bard, bragging about tying Nate Archball to a
statue in the quad. Nate stands up and
probably declares his name, pushes over to the douche
bros, and hightails it out of there.
Well, yeah, I just kidnapped and assaulted a guy
and, stripped him down naked. And I'm just gonna
shout about it in this bar.

Jake (45:51):
A round of shots.

Leif (45:56):
But again, chase getting to do
comedy.
Yeah, chase gets to be funny. And,
yeah, I loved it.
Physical comedy, even.
Yeah, yeah. And I love the,
like, starts the fight, and then it's like, oh, shit.
There'S six of them.
Yeah. I actually thought we were about to see
Nate go

(46:19):
six on one for a second. I was like, is he gonna,
like.

Steve (46:22):
I'm not.

Leif (46:23):
I'm not gonna believe it happened, but I'm gonna watch. It
is the deep. He is the
deepest.
We see Dan and only his boxers tied to the
statue in the middle of campus. Embarrassing. Yes, especially
when you consider his choice of boxers. But considering this was
supposed to be the legendary skull and bones, I think Dan
got off pretty light. However, good

(46:44):
guy Nate shows up to the rescue. Unfortunately, the
captain didn't pass on his nautical skills to Nate because
Jordan has to come help with the knot.
I remember the first time watching, thinking, like, dude,
all those people that tied up Dan, every one of them has a
boat. Yeah. They know how to tie a
knot. They've all got boats.
Yeah, they're all the crew team.
Yeah, they had. Some of them may only have two

(47:07):
boats now that they had to sell three after the
captain fucked them over.
Blair and Serena are picking up the pieces from their
fight. They agree to their go to their separate ways
once college starts.
Yeah. Like, I wish that they, And I know you're
supposed to, but I wish they could see that they don't have to fight each
other. Like, they could be such a powerful team.

(47:29):
But I'm tired of being Darth Vader next to your sunshine
Barbie. Steve.
I'm a people person. What can I say?
From comrades to combat. We thought we'd seen
it all, but we've never seen this. Serena
and Blair calling a ceasefire after so much

(47:51):
scorched earth can either side claim victory?
We move into the epilogue. It looks
like Rufus is going to let Jenny give homeschooling
a try after all. Rufus asks Vanessa
to bring the forums to surprise Jenny at
breakfast.
I'm glad to see Rufus coming
around here and, like, I.

(48:12):
As somebody, as an educator and somebody who's,
like, teaching and I. And I have, like, you know,
advanced degrees in educational psychology and stuff
like that. And the way that we do high school
in. In America is already wrong,
you know, sending every single
kid to essentially
college preparatory classes when they could be

(48:35):
receiving job trainings or going to tech
schools and going to things like that. But we don't
encourage that. We encourage this. College, college,
college. And then these kids,
like, you know, at 18, start
learning trades and start learning things they could have
been doing at a younger age.
And especially something like Jenny, where she has a path

(48:57):
and she has a, love and a dream
and has an easy path
to it at this point.
Yeah, so you're talking about that. But it's pretty clear
these writers don't know what homeschool
is. It would be better if they would have talked about maybe
professional school where they can. Kids can,
like, test out so they can work. But

(49:18):
homeschooling involves Rufus basically
being with Jenny for four to 6 hours a
day.
Well, how is Vanessa homeschooling, for
that matter? She's living by herself. I don't
know where.
That's really funny because I didn't know that because, And
now I don't know about 2007, especially because

(49:39):
I know today you could easily.

Jake (49:41):
Online school.

Leif (49:42):
Just do mine.
Yeah, just do online school.

Jake (49:45):
Like, there's, like, a whole, like, Pennsylvania, like,
Commonwealth online academy.

Leif (49:49):
Yeah.

Jake (49:50):
Anyone could be in that.

Leif (49:51):
Exactly.
Yeah. I don't know where they were in 2007. but they were definitely not
there in the mid to late nineties when
I did a couple years.
Yeah, they were starting. They were
starting in, I think, that the first
online schools started opening around a one
or zero two, and they didn't really. I
know that by zero six, I was

(50:13):
teaching. I was actually running a
school that was using all digital
education. Right. Like, all the kids were doing all of their
classes on computers, and I've worked in two
schools like that. The first one, like I said, in,
like, oh, seven. Oh, from zero seven to
zero nine.
like, if only the writers had, you know, talk to some of the

(50:35):
actors on their shows about, like, how
they did the professional acting schools and they
tested out so they could work full time at, like,
13.
Yeah.
Hey.
Hey. Taylor Mumpson, who was actually
needing to be educated while doing
this.
How did you do, Eric? I think Layton,
Blake. Like, all of them.

(50:57):
Yeah. And the
other funny thing with this is, like,
this homeschooling path. The other thing is get a
Ged. Like. Like, you're talking about, like, testing out.
And, like, there are, like, I. One of. I
knew this musician out in Seattle who was like, yeah, high school
just wasn't cutting it for me. M so I got my

(51:17):
GED.
I think you have to be able to be a certain age, at least
1716.
I believe it is 16. And, I
think it's, like, 16 with certain,
like, you need, like, I think maybe a letter saying,
yeah, you're done with high school, but, like, something that she
could get from eleanor, you know?
Serena and Blair have one last face off outside

(51:40):
the dean's office. However, it looks like they both
fell on their swords for each other. I still think
Blair is actually in love with serena, but
2008, television. Sanders just wouldn't let her
go there. Like, this scene, like, it's
so clear to me that Blair is in love with serena. She
is in love with her. Absolutely.
I, didn't feel that

(52:02):
as much as I felt that she wants to be
her, that it's more of a desperately seeking
Susan than a romantic
love. That's how I. That's just how
I always. That's how it looked to me,
like.
But the whole thing, like, I don't want you, not in
my life. And, like, I can't. I can't live without you.

(52:22):
Even though I hate you. I hate you, but I cannot live without
you.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that
you love. That's love.
Yeah.
Right. Sometimes. I mean, not always, but, like, that is
an aspect of it.
Yeah. What do you think, JK? Any thoughts,
do you think?

Jake (52:37):
Not really. I feel like, honestly, at, this
point in their relationship, they should just not. It should
be like a no contact, like a break.

Leif (52:46):
Yeah. They're only taxes for each other, but
just.

Jake (52:49):
But do you think terrorizing each other.

Leif (52:51):
But do you think, Blair is in love with Serena?
No.

Jake (52:54):
I really don't know. I
feel like it's a mix of my dad
said wanting to be her, or it's more
just wanting to. Not, like, wanting to be on
her level, you know? I feel like she's obsessed with
what Serena can achieve.

Leif (53:09):
That is definitely an aspect like her status.
Dan and Nate and Jordan are walking around campus, and
it looks like Jordan is now dance errand girl.
However, I also see a bromance brewing.
Yeah. Why is she just, like, running?
I'm gonna.
I'll find someone for you, dad. Don't worry. I'll just go around
campus asking people.

(53:30):
Yeah, guy that I just met
who has the name of the guy that I
was of, the high school kid I was about to sleep with. His
name. And I will say that
I do love. I've always loved Dan and Nate when
they're friendly. And again, this is
very reminiscent of poison ivy, where they
spat early on and then they come

(53:52):
together and they're friends again. But
I was also this ta. This
probably junior or higher at Yale
is forming a throuple
now with two high school
kids. I mean,
I'm here for it. Love
is love. Do your thing.

(54:14):
Better a college junior than a married
duchess.
Yeah.

Jake (54:18):
Yeah, yeah.

Leif (54:19):
I mean, this is definitely an upgrade. Nate likes the
older women, but when.

Jake (54:23):
Is he going to ask if he's getting paid for this,
right?

Leif (54:27):
So what do I get paid?
Excuse me, Jordan, where's my check?
full on gigolo.

Jake (54:36):
Does Jordan have a son for Blair today, by any chance?

Leif (54:41):
Chuck's lies have caught up to him, but it looks
like Chuck was just on campus to get
blackmail material for on the future elites.
Like I said, this is Chuck's best scheme.
Yeah. Yeah. Like, finally pulled something off.
He totally pulled it off. I didn't see it coming at
all. I mean, I saw the, you know, oh, he's here.
He's going to get out of fucking NATO.

(55:02):
But, like, it wasn't even that. It was from the
get. I'm gonna. I'm learning about secret
societies because I want their secrets
and I want to own them. And he now owns the
skull and bones, which is
fantastic.
Now Chuck and Nate are arguing, and Nate
decides to take the train with Dan. Chuck's

(55:23):
all alone again.

Jake (55:25):
I do just love this for Nate's character. You know, him, being
able to realize that, like,
there's nothing wrong with casual
people things.

Leif (55:34):
Yeah. Yeah.

Jake (55:35):
You don't really need to take a limo everywhere
sometimes, like, a good friendship is more important.

Leif (55:41):
Yeah.
And I also like this for the show as well, in general, because
it gets Dan more integrated with the. It's
not just, serena's no longer his only connection.
Yeah. Yeah. And now Nate creates
that connection.
Yeah.
Nate also doesn't know
necessarily about the story
that. That Dan was writing to. Correct, so there

(56:02):
is. So there is. Chuck is upset
about something that Nate doesn't know about,
so there's that.
Maybe if he reacted when they were talking about earlier.
Yeah. Yeah.
He would have found out.
Maybe. Yeah.
Serena gets a call from dean barabe, who
tells her to expect to be on the early menace

(56:25):
list, but blair isn't. Also, the dean
wants to issue a press release about serena's visit, thus
proving Blair's point from earlier.
Yeah, and. And it's funny
when, flashing earlier when he said that lady
had a lovely story about how she was in a fashion
show, but he knew that because he has

(56:45):
the newspaper in front of him with the fashion show.
Yeah. And so, like, he just really
proves that whole thing that they just want Serena. They
want the vander Woodson status, and they want
this fresh, young face at Yale.
We get a classic end of episode
montage of Blair and Serena are hugging.

(57:05):
Lily is putting the black dress back in her
closet. Jenny is flourishing at the
atelier. Chuck stares daggers from his
limo as Nate and Dan are having a great time
walking together. Blair gives a last
longing look at Yale before getting into the limo with
Serena. The sequence is punctuated by
some pointed narration from Gossip Girl.

(57:26):
Greens. Everyone has them.
Some good, some bad, some, you
wish you could forget. Sometimes you realize you've outgrown
them. Sometimes you feel like they've. They're finally
coming true. And some of us just have
nightmares. But no matter what your dream,
when morning comes, reality intrudes and the

(57:47):
dreams begin to slip away. Dream a little
dream with me. Xoxo,
gossip girl.
They already used dream a little dream.
Yes.
Come on now.
Obviously, Jake, you know what's coming up by that. Steve, any
predictions from you?
I I did.

(58:07):
Clearly, Chuck is about to go after Dan.
I feel like there's going to be some Chuck Dan stuff, and
I'm here for it, because. I'm also here for it because I
want to see where Nate. How Nate reacts to Chuck
Dan stuff. And, yes, they would just write him out of the episodes like
he do. and,
this. It seems like Serena and

(58:27):
Blair are coming back to friends again.
I feel like they were trying to kind of even
give us a little bit of a poison ivy ending, but not
quite to the strength of poison ivy
or thin line. Yeah. You know, like,
those. Those were the ones, like, tears in the
eyes.
so, I mean, m do you think it is going to be, you

(58:48):
know, like that, or is it going to be back to war next?
I think we have at least one more episode of war,
because this was two of three episodes.
I'm following along with that rule
of three when we see stuff that, like, they have
to. We've talked about this before on the podcast
that serial television,
when they weren't expecting people to. When

(59:10):
they knew people wouldn't tune in.
Hours to watch one out of three episodes.
Right. So they had to make sure you could get enough of the
plot in one out of three episodes
without needing to watch the others because
not everyone at this point yet. DVRs
were starting to become a home.
Yeah. Tivo. TiVo is a thing at this point, but, yeah. you have to be kind

(59:31):
of, well, on the. On the rich side. Upper middle class, at least.
Yeah. Well, and actually, at this point,
you could get DVR through,
like I had it for Comcast.
Yeah, you could just recap.
Yeah. but. But even then, you
know, they didn't know how to. What
to do with that yet. You know, they didn't know

(59:51):
that they could break these traditions
yet. Yeah.
So looks like everyone's trying to get it to Yale. Is
the show gonna switch the new Haven next year?
Well, that's what I actually was having. That question. I
had that thought, too, that I know that they graduate at the
end of the year. So where do they go?

(01:00:12):
and do they all go to
Yale, or do they all go somewhere
else? Or do they all go to colleges that are
nearer to each other?
so there are several colleges in New York. Yeah. I
mean, because it would make sense to just stay in New
York and have someone at NYU and someone at Columbia, and,

(01:00:32):
you know, that makes sense, too.
So that is it for our episode.
Any last thoughts on the episode?
None here. Yeah.
We will move into some segments
this week in fandom, we hopped into the
wayback machine to check out the television without pity
forums back in 2008. Hello

(01:00:53):
there, Peabody here. And, this is the wayback
machine for traveling through time.
And this is my boy Sherman. Speak,
Sherman. Hello. Good boy.
Fans are happy as, Serena and Blair made up, although
maybe a little too much, a little too soon.
Yeah.
And we kind of thought, yeah, m might keep going next week.

(01:01:14):
Yeah, there will be. I feel like there's something. There will be another
thing.
They are also pleased Dan is making additional friends
on the upper east side. So that, like we said.
Yeah.
Nate integrating him into the cast more. Yeah,
most of the, like. they were actually a lot of talk of the preview for next
week. Then they were all getting cruel intentions lies from
it.

(01:01:34):
Oh, I did not see the preview for next
week, so. But I do love me some cruel
intentions there. There's some good Sarah
Michelle Geller work.
Yes. So that's what made me fall in love with her.
Yeah, I can understand that.
yeah.
Now that Chuck is all alone, will he be forced to tell Blair,
I love you?
Oh. I

(01:01:57):
mean, they've. They've been on the back
burner for a while now, since.
Since this whole season,
really. There was the back and forth where Chuck was going,
like, actively pursuing Blair
against Marcus, but, like, since
then, since.
He left, he's been just kind of hanging out.

(01:02:17):
Yeah, but. But we've seen backburner stuff,
right? We've seen. We've seen him.
He's been plotting.
He's been plotting like, he did. He sent Amanda. Yeah.
After Dan.
Now this is something that's really starting to bug me. The
elitism among the Chuck fans is
really kind of starting to annoy me on the forums.
Nate should just shut up and thank Chuck

(01:02:41):
and. Yeah, Chuck. Cesar so elevated. It's
like prestige tv when he's on the screen.
Oh, Jesus. What are you talking about? Is it
because. Is it because of his hair? Is it because he wears
an ascot now? Is it because he's
gradually, like, continuing his transition
into Fred?

Jake (01:02:59):
He's gonna start setting traps for Dan?

Leif (01:03:03):
Yes. And, Blair is getting a
majority. The support between the Serena and the Blair
people still. And, there's several muse fans in the
audience.
Yeah. Yeah.
Moving on to some episode grades. You
went first last time, so I'm gonna go first this week.

(01:03:24):
This wasn't quite as good as last week, but it was still a
good episode. Directing, was good. Norman Buckley always
does a good job. although, you know, the back and forth
Serena and Blair stuff was good.
I like Chuck and Dan and Chuck and Nate.
so I'm gonna give it a b. This is solid. Upset.
What about you, Jake?

Jake (01:03:43):
I would honestly say b. Or, like, if there's b pluses.

Leif (01:03:46):
B plus.

Jake (01:03:47):
I'd say b plus. I did really like the episode. I don't
know if it's. It's definitely up there with my favorites, but I
wouldn't say it's the best one so far, but it is. I did think
overall, it was a very good episode.

Leif (01:03:58):
Yeah. I'm in line with both of you. I gave
it a b as well. I thought, like you
said, this was a solid episode. It
was good. and it may be not as
good as last week, but it was a good episode. It was very
solid. And I found that, you know,
I kind of have to accept this. This version

(01:04:19):
of Blair of being the. A
little more unhinged.
Well, you gotta remember this is kind of the blair we got in the
first three episodes before her and Serena made
up.
Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're right.
This is kind of how Blair is when her and Serena are
fighting.
Yeah, she kind of falls apart. Yeah, she falls
apart and love with her,

(01:04:42):
but, yeah, for the same reasons I gave this a b plus. I
thought it was a good episode.
Moving into stock watch going up.
I had Serena because she clearly won the
episode. She looks like she's getting early admittance to
Yale. She did get Blair to forgive her at
the end. And, yeah, she's good episode. She's
the girl. I gave dad a good

(01:05:04):
up because, he, you know, it looks like he's going to get his recommendation.
He's got a new friend.
Nate, same reason. Got a new friend. So he's going up. He
also looks like he's got to look up with a hot co ed.
And, of course, the real winner of the episode,
jenny. She's fucking awesome.
She's my favorite.
Yeah. Yeah.

(01:05:25):
Jake, who do you got going up?

Jake (01:05:26):
I had Chuck for sure, like, controlling an entire
secret society of America's future.
I also, Dan and Nate, both I had going
up. I do love the bromance they have
brewing, and I think for both of them, that's pretty good.
And actually, honestly, lily for convincing
Rufus to let Jenny continue her dream, I

(01:05:47):
think that kind of elevates her a little
success.

Leif (01:05:51):
Yeah, actually, and I'm going to start. That actually makes me
want to add somebody to my list. So I'll start with her, with
Eleanor for going to bat for Jenny,
and. And, like, literally, she still
has this protege, this, you know,
prodigy working for her, you know, that's good for
her. Then I also had Nate and Dan for all

(01:06:12):
the same reasons you had. I had Jenny just like
you guys did. I I gave rufus a bump up for
the very end for coming around.
I had both blair and Serena going down
because.
And we're not there yet.
Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right.
That all your ups?
Yeah, that's all my ups. I always do that.

(01:06:33):
Yeah. So going down, I had Chuck
actually going down because even though he got one over on the skull bones,
I don't really care about them.
Did I say chuck? Because I actually meant to give Chuck an up
also for the skull and bones thing. So I get that you
give him.
Down, but I really don't care about those
people. And then the people I do care about, he is
all, He's got separated from his friends, and I.

(01:06:54):
Yeah, he's got nothing right now.
Yeah.
And then I also had Blair going down because she
looks like she's losing out on Yale and was
just self destructing all episode.
And also Rufus because I thought he was
horrible, so that that way. I see, was not enough to save
him.
That is fair. I, actually was considering

(01:07:14):
taking it away before I gave it to him. I'm still thinking about
it.

Jake (01:07:17):
So I also think Rufus a little bit down just
for. I mean, he came around in the end, but the whole
time, it's just like dan. Dan. Dan is.
Can't let anything go for Jenny.

Leif (01:07:28):
Yeah. Take him off from me. I'm just gonna give him nothing.
I'm giving him nothing.

Jake (01:07:33):
I also had Blair, like, way down, just
like the whole outing Serena as a murderer and
all that, it's like. And then just being nuts
in front of the dean, it's. She made a complete fool
of herself whole episode.

Leif (01:07:46):
Anyone else?

Jake (01:07:48):
I mean, maybe that new, Jordan girl for sleeping
with a college or high school student trying to.
Kind of creepy.

Leif (01:07:59):
That's fair.
Now, Steve, you can give your doubt.
Yeah. I gave both Blair and Serena a, down. And
Blair for, what I said
earlier about her be just being unhinged when she's
in this, but serena, it is
because serena, when.
When blair said to her you could never get into

(01:08:19):
yale, Serena was.
Garrett was m motivated to get
into yale, but we weren't. She wasn't
talking about. She's talking about merit. Right?
And Serena, in the end, realizes that if she gets into
yale, it is not on merit. It is
on the prestige, and it is on

(01:08:39):
her. Her status.
And I think that that really
hurt Serena in the end, and I think that that.
And they also act in a fool on the dean's porch. Both
of you, knock it the fuck off. They both go
down.
Yeah. the main reason why gave Serena up, because she just.
She checks all the privilege boxes, and

(01:09:01):
she just fails up.
Yeah, she really does.
She's rich, white, pretty.
Yeah. Yeah. Just edges.
Yeah.
That is it for stock watch. Unless you got any more downs.
Nope. just those two. But here's the best
outfits from the last episode
we see.

(01:09:22):
Moving on to best outfit.
For me, it was Chuck's brown coat with the
orange pants. the coat also had some orange stitching
to kind of make it, like a burnt orange almost.
He had green socks, brown, leather
shoes, and then a pink button up shirt with a
cravat and a matching pocket square.

Jake (01:09:43):
I also went with Chuck, sue, and I also love the
little ascot, just like Fred from Scooby Doo.
I thought that was definitely the best outfit.

Leif (01:09:51):
Yeah, I actually went with
Lily's dress in the end. Hello,
misses bass.
Robin knows that I think Lily is hot
because she's objectively hot. Like, come
on. But also that, you know, it was,
I thought it was really cool that it's supposed to be a Jenny

(01:10:12):
design for Serena even.
You know, I like. I like that dress.
All right, that is it. For some segments, all we
have left is some plugs, but, Jake, thank you for joining
us.

Jake (01:10:26):
Thank you for having me.

Leif (01:10:27):
Yeah.
And, where can people find you on social media?

Jake (01:10:31):
I mean, usually just Jacob,
Marshawn. It's pretty much all my socials.

Leif (01:10:36):
Anything else you want to plug? Not specifically. Recommendations
or anything.
He spells his name the same way I do.
What about you, Steve? You plug in anything?
I think just at this point still
sometime, next month. This comes out in September, so
sometime next month, I will be up in
Lockhaven for the fringe festival.

(01:10:57):
I will get exact dates for our next. For our next
episode, but, you can come out and see me. I don't have
exact locations yet because they usually give me those
later, but, you will. There will be signs all
over Lockhaven, and if you follow me on
TikTok or Instagram at Steve
dot Marshan, m a r c h I o

(01:11:18):
n, I will be posting more
information on the shows there. That's
my big thing that will be coming up at that point.
how about you, Lee?
Hey. Well, nothing to really plug or recommend this week,
but you want to find me on social media, you can find me on
Instagram ot Capicola. And you can find
the podcast on TikTok and Instagram

(01:11:40):
and threads on judging practice
pod on Twitter, we're
pod. And you can also visit our website,
nonjudgingbreakfastpod.com. and there you can find links
to our Reddit and discord servers.
And if you would like to get in touch with the podcast,
we would love to hear from you. Send us an email.

(01:12:00):
Our email address is
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we'd love to hear what you have to say and read your comments
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listening to. All of those things really help us

(01:12:22):
out.
Okay. And next week, we will be talking
about season two, episode seven,
chuck in real life. The max
episode preview reads, to get
revenge, Blair convinces Chuck to
seduce Vanessa.

(01:12:45):
Oh, wow. Yeah,
I'm really interested in this one.
Cause, like, we get a new good side character.
This one.
Oh, good, good. is Jordan a one and done?
I think she might be mentioned again. Like,
I think she, like, calls Dan to say, like, she
couldn't get a recommendation.

(01:13:08):
She appears again. but, yeah. So that is
it for this week. catch us back in a week. You know
you love us.
Xoxo.

Steve (01:13:17):
Every time you walk away run away you take a
piece of me with you there
every time you walk away or run away you take a piece of
me with you there
every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
of me with
oh, it seems I'm walking right.

Leif (01:13:38):
To your door.

Steve (01:13:42):
My heart's still resting looking for
something more
are you ever gonna see everything you mean to
me I'm trying really hard to believe
every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
every time you walk away or run away you take a

(01:14:04):
piece of me with you there
every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
never feels right when I'm out here on
my own
I left last night and it feels like
way too long

(01:14:27):
are you ever gonna see everything you mean
to me? I'm trying really hard to believe
every time you walk away run away you take a piece
of me with you there
every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
every time you walk away or run away you take a

(01:14:49):
piece of me with you there
come back to me
smile and you'll make my life
complete?
Every time you walk away, I run away? You take a
piece of me with you there

(01:15:12):
every time you walk away or run away? You take a
piece of me with you there
every time you walk away or run away? You take a
piece of me with you there
every time you walk away, run away? You take a
piece of me with you there
every time you walk away or run away? You take a

(01:15:34):
piece of me with you there
every time you walk away or run away? You take a
piece of me with you there
every time you walk away or run away? You take a
piece of me with you there
every time you walk away or run away? You take a
piece of me with you there.
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