January 5, 2025 • 61 mins
Hello Upper East Siders and Gossip Girl enthusiasts! This week on the Non Judging Breakfast Pod, Leif and Steve dive into the drama of Gossip Girl Season 2, Episode 19, "The Grandfather." As Nate reconnects with his Vanderbilt roots, he finds himself at a crossroads between family legacy and personal freedom. Meanwhile, Blair's spiraling out of control leads to unexpected alliances and shocking revelations. Serena and Chuck team up to save Blair from herself, while Vanessa grapples with the implications of Nate's newfound family ties. Join our hosts as they dissect the twists, turns, and tantalizing drama with their signature humor and insight. Don't miss this deep dive into the tangled lives of Manhattan's elite!
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Leif (00:01):
Vanessa has had sparks with someone else this season.
Steve (00:04):
Vanessa has had sparks with someone other
than Dan and other than Nate.
No.
No, no. Because she's not
going. No.
Well, maybe.
Leif (00:27):
Hey, Upper east siders and all you scandal loving listeners out
there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast
pod where the coffee is strong, the
waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than
ever. My name is Leif and I'm your seasoned Gossip
Girl veteran.
Steve (00:42):
And I'm Steve the greenhorn, the
newbie, the I don't know, Leif. What do we call the
season two newbie on. In Gossip Girl
terms?
Leif (00:51):
I don't know. But do you know how exhausting it is to be me?
All the work, the planning.
Steve (00:56):
I mean, I can only imagine.
I feel like in this case, I'm more the
Serena.
Leif (01:03):
Yep, probably.
Steve (01:06):
So here's the deal, folks. Leaf has been watching
since this show first aired in 2007, and
I'm diving in for the first time. And together, we're
your dynamic duo, bringing you all the drama,
romance, and sometimes questionable fashion
choices of this iconic 2007
series.
Leif (01:23):
That's right. Each week we're taking a deep dive into the
show one episode at a time. We'll analyze all
the hidden parallels and obscure references, and along the
way, we'll take a look at some stories from fandom and some behind the scenes
gossip.
Steve (01:36):
And since we're all about inclusivity here at the non
judging breakfast pod, there's always room for you at the non
judging breakfast table. So go ahead and
grab a cup of coffee or a mimosa, maybe
some of Chuck's special medicine and come join
us and, let's get into this.
Leif (01:54):
All right. Happy new year, everyone. It is January
6th when this episode will be coming out.
Steve (01:59):
Yeah. Happy new Year. Thank you for listening.
Leif (02:02):
Hopefully everyone had a good holidays. Whatever you
particularly celebrate.
Steve (02:06):
Yes. Enjoyed time with the family, if you want to be
around your family. And time alone, if you had nice
time alone.
Leif (02:13):
Yes. And I actually
read a post about that recently.
They. They were like, traumatized by their parents
for Christmas because they always had to do this, like some stupid
thing with family. This is the first year
that their m. Mom was dead and like, they were so happy
they could just be alone on
(02:33):
Christmas.
Steve (02:35):
Jesus.
Leif (02:38):
Wow. Yeah.
Steve (02:40):
I mean, because we. I'm sure we all
have those like, traumatic
Christmas things. Like, like my
dad would often be very like, this
is the image I have in my head of how this is going
to go when the kids come down. And so when
we'd be excited to like, come down and, like,
(03:00):
open presents. My dad would often be like,
no, you wait. And
like, if we came down early, he'd get so
mad. Or if we didn't have enough excitement
at something we opened, he'd get really mad,
which I know I kind of did to my K
when they were really young. Out of that same.
Leif (03:20):
Yeah, I probably fact checked on this, but I've always heard that
in lease in the US Is the highest rate of
suicide in any month of the year.
Steve (03:28):
Yeah, I believe. Yeah, I would believe
that. In fact, I would think.
Yeah, December, I think, makes a
lot of sense. Yeah, that's.
Yeah. If you or someone, you know, is
struggling with depression, please get help.
Leif (03:45):
And,
Steve (03:46):
And I know we. We. That might sound like some
levity, but we do.
Leif (03:50):
Like, honestly, definitely, you're struggling even.
Just. Just talk to us. Reach out.
Steve (03:54):
Yeah.
Leif (03:55):
Happy to listen.
Steve (03:56):
Yeah, very much.
Leif (03:57):
Let's talk to someone.
Steve (03:58):
Yeah. Like we were saying, like, this could be very
fun time for people if it wasn't.
Please, you know, reach out or reach out to
a professional and find someone to talk
to.
Leif (04:10):
On a more positive note, we are here to talk about
season two, episode 19 of Gossip Girl
titled the Grandfather. The
Grandfather originally released on, March
23rd of 2009. And of course, the title is
based on the Godfather, Right.
Steve (04:27):
Which Robin only recently has
seen for the first time. We recently watched the
Godfather part one and two.
And when they make the
Corleone reference in this,
Robin was like, I get this
now.
Leif (04:44):
Now read the book.
Steve (04:46):
Oh, I read the book. I actually read the book before I saw the
movie. What's that?
Leif (04:50):
Have her read it.
Steve (04:51):
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I should. Because the book is.
It was, an amazing read. It was.
I tore through that because I was always. Ah. I
would either read nothing or tear
through a book in, like, two days.
Leif (05:07):
I actually like, his other book, too, Mario
Puzzles. Silmarillion, basically
is, the Family, which is based on the
Borgias.
Steve (05:15):
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Leif (05:17):
Like, his whole life working on that. It was like, I think this
last book he published.
Steve (05:21):
Oh, no kidding. Because I knew that. I know there's other
Godfather books, too. I know there's the Last
Dawn.
Leif (05:27):
Yeah.
Steve (05:28):
And I don't. Is there another Godfather
Part two book? Because I know
the movie mirrors the. The first book
mostly.
Leif (05:37):
and then the movie splits off completely. The Last diet
is not even. I don't even think he has two
other gangster mafia books.
But they're not the Corleone.
Steve (05:49):
Okay.
Leif (05:50):
They're other families.
Steve (05:51):
Yeah, well, yeah, because part two is
half original story and
half Godfather Part one.
Leif (05:59):
Yes. Okay, so this episode was written
by Robert Hole, who,
previously did the X Files and A Wonderful Lie
and co written by Etan Frankel,
previously co wrote on There Might Be Blood.
Steve (06:13):
Okay. Yeah. the writing on this one
had had good moments, and it had.
Leif (06:18):
Yeah, it's a mixed bag.
Steve (06:20):
Yeah, it really was. Which is funny having
co writers, they don't do that often.
And I can only imagine that if they. When they do
that, it is because there is specific things that
each contributed that they wanted credit
for, which tells me that one of these guys is probably
much better than the other.
Leif (06:39):
Or one person wrote the script
originally. The room didn't like it, and
someone else was coming to give it a fresh up.
Steve (06:48):
That makes a lot of sense, too. Yeah.
Leif (06:50):
Episode directed by J. Miller Tobin
previously did Poison Ivy, the Blair Bitch
Project. Some are kind of wonderful.
Steve (06:59):
Poison Ivy to date
may be my favorite. Yeah. Episode. I mean, Poison
Ivy is. Was a
fantastic episode.
Leif (07:08):
Yes. It's the only episode we both gave
a pluses to.
Steve (07:12):
Is it really? That's. That's funny.
Leif (07:14):
Why don't you go ahead and read the Vulture recap?
Steve (07:17):
All right. Unlike the Vanderbilts,
daily Intel will leave behind no oil
portraits, ancestors, or
presidential seals. Our recaps of
Gossip Girl are, our legacy.
We've devoted many evenings of our lives to
studying the facets of its characters.
(07:37):
And through it all, we've seen many of them
struggle to choose whether to act like their better
or worse selves. Chuck,
the wayward billionaire's son, is a
brash, bitter pervert with a tender
soul. Serena vacillates
between purposeful and accidental sluttiness.
Her mother, Lily, is like a human coconut
(07:59):
with two hard shells that, once cracked,
reveal a sweet, milky center. And
then there's Blair. This episode, it was
her turn to have an identity crisis. Early
on, she declared the old Blair dead.
It was time for the rise of the new Blair.
But then a funny thing happened. The new
(08:19):
Blair was pretty much exactly the same as the old
Blair. She lounged around in
lingerie, freaked out about not getting into Yale.
She drank too much and acted like a total
B1 of her upper eas. One,
might take this as evidence that the character of
Blair is less multifaceted than her Upper
east side comrades, but we think it's just the
(08:41):
opposite. Her character is like the Hope
diamond, unbreakable and
precious. Pretty good,
yeah. Yeah, sums it up.
Yeah.
Leif (08:52):
Let's go ahead and get into the episode.
Act one Begins. There's some shots of Central
park covered in snow, and we get a Gossip
Girl narration. Springtime on the Upper
east side, where the winter chill is supposed to
be so last season. But when mittens and
scarves are all the rage, the best thing
you can do is just button up and hope for
(09:15):
warmer days.
Steve (09:16):
I did from the start. When I saw
this pair come on screen, I was like,
oh, no. And I'll talk more about it after you give
the.
Leif (09:26):
Dan and Vanessa are walking down the street in the snow.
They discussed Vanessa backpacking with Nate in Europe this
summer. Then they meet up with Nate and his cousin
Tripp, who is encouraging Nate to reconnect with the
grandfather. Nate wants no part of it. As he explains,
they cut off Nate and his mom when his father got
busted.
Steve (09:44):
It's coming. The Dan and
Vanessa. I felt when
I saw them together walking and talking, there
was something in me that was like,
oh, no. Like, they're getting
paired up right away in the beginning. And I
felt in my soul that there was a
foreshadowing happening there,
(10:06):
and I. I'll talk more on it later. But I
was like, oh, gross.
Leif (10:11):
I didn't really see it as different as any. Any other episode when they were
together.
Steve (10:15):
I. I don't know what it was. Right. There was something
in the two of them. They don't open
a lot of scene episodes together.
It was having the two of them paired
up talking about her
backpacking trip with Nate that I
just was like, there's.
(10:35):
I just felt something in my. In my gut.
Okay.
Leif (10:40):
so you're the Broadway guy. Did you recognize the actor
playing Trip?
Steve (10:45):
I did not.
Leif (10:46):
That is Aaron Trevette, who's apparently pretty popular
on Broadway.
Steve (10:50):
Oh, I was unaware.
Yeah. I don't recognize the name.
Leif (10:57):
Chuck enters Serena's room as he is concerned
about Blair blowing him off. Serena lets
Chuck know about Yale. Chuck ruins the moment by
making a gross joke.
Steve (11:07):
Yep. Chuck going through Serena's phone and then.
Leif (11:10):
Being a pervasive days before.
Passwords on phones.
Steve (11:14):
Yeah.
Leif (11:17):
Lily is meeting with art dealer Bex. Hey, I remember
her. Much to Lily's surprise, Bex points out that
Rufus probably remembers her too, because they totally did
it last season. Yeah.
Steve (11:28):
I didn't realize that it ever actually got that
far. To an actual. I guess they're okay. Yeah. At the end
of the one episode, they finally were like, okay,
let's go out. But, like,
they didn't. How much did you actually
date Rufus? like, how much did the two of
them actually date? Because she was
(11:48):
not with him. The next episode. And she
was in, I think, the next
episode. she was in one.
Leif (11:56):
They were together for a couple episodes.
They were doing a little dating dance.
And Purvis says in this episode that they dated a couple
times.
Steve (12:05):
Yeah. Yeah. I just. I. To
me, I guess big thing.
Right? But I guess the big thing is
Beck's being like. Oh, man.
Beck's being like a fucking teenager
about it is what really got me.
And. And this plotline.
Leif (12:24):
She wanted a reaction there.
Steve (12:25):
Yeah, she wanted to react. Exactly. This
plotline irked me because it was. Save it for the
kids. Yeah.
Leif (12:32):
Back at the townhouse, Nate has mastered the split
screen, but Dan and Vesa have come up with a plan to
family trap.
Steve (12:38):
Nate, why are you pushing
this?
Leif (12:42):
Well, they explain it.
Steve (12:43):
They do. I just for
one. Vanessa, who hates all of
this stuff. Right.
Leif (12:52):
Does she, though.
Steve (12:53):
Okay. Facts. And
we're gonna get to that later. Right? Cause I.
A lot to say about Vanessa
reminding us how much she sucks in this
episode.
Leif (13:05):
I actually didn't mind Vanessa in this episode.
Steve (13:07):
I got really irritated with
Vanessa because Vanessa, who
always professes being poor
and professes the
slumming it in the Brooklyn,
was very excited to be
traveling Europe on her boyfriend's dime.
So that's where I'm going to start with
(13:29):
that. And I'm not. And you
know, as somebody who has traveled on a friend's dime
before, like, I'm not shaming that.
I'm shaming the. I'm not even.
I'm not necessarily shaming anything. I just. I'm
just pointing out that Vanessa has always
spoken about how much she hates
(13:50):
these, like, the people around. Around.
More like around Dan and Nate.
Leif (13:56):
Now it is possible. And I could totally
see Vanessa being the type of person be assist.
Are like, staying in hostels. And basically, she's paying
for her half.
Steve (14:06):
I could see that too. That's never mentioned.
Leif (14:09):
Yeah.
Steve (14:10):
And. And there is,
like, other
indication of. I.
Leif (14:17):
She always has a job, so she's got. Yeah, she has some.
Steve (14:20):
I guess what I'm saying is that this trip probably wouldn't happen
without Nate's money. Even. Even if she's
making contributions and things like that, it's probably
not happening without Nate being
able to have some
luxury involved or at least
Nate providing certain aspects of
(14:40):
it.
Leif (14:40):
So I'm not even entirely convinced that Vanessa is all that
poor either.
Steve (14:45):
No, I think she's. I think she's Humphrey poor. I
think she's. I think she's poorer than the
Humphreys.
Leif (14:51):
I don't even know that she's been. She has to be at
least partially being supported by her parents, be able to live in
New York City.
Steve (14:58):
No, no. Yeah, yeah, I'm considering
the Humphreys are probably in a.
Into a 1 to 5 mil
range. That's kind of where I picture
them to be. So I would picture Vanessa to
be in the like 1 to 3. When I'm
saying poorer, I mean by a couple
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million.
Leif (15:21):
I was actually talking about the Humphrey wealth on
Reddit this week, saying how different
the OC and, and Gossip Girl are, because
the Humphreys probably have similar money to the
Cohen in.
Steve (15:33):
The OC and then the Cohen's.
So you're saying that they don't have. That
they don't have Upper east side money? They're. Yeah, yeah.
Leif (15:42):
They're California rich.
Steve (15:44):
Yeah. Yeah. From, what. What industry made
them rich again?
Leif (15:47):
Real estate. Oh, how about that?
Lily comes to the gallery to chide Rufus for not telling her
about Bex. Lily comes up with the idea that
they should exchange lists at dinner. Rufus
rightfully points out that this has disaster written all
over it.
Steve (16:05):
Yeah, grow up. Like, nobody.
Nobody.
Leif (16:09):
You're in your 40s.
Steve (16:10):
You're in. Yeah. You're in your. Yeah,
it's so. It's such a dumb
plot line. Like,
I'm sure that this shit gets discussed. I know Robin
and I, like, talked about
this kind of thing, but, like, it's not
a thing that we.
(16:30):
That impacted us.
Leif (16:32):
So I think in, Lily's case, she was just
upset that someone that worked for
her slept with her boyfriend.
Steve (16:39):
Right. And I never got the impression that it was
a secret Rufus kept. I felt like it was,
Leif (16:45):
Oh, yeah, yeah, we went on a couple dates.
Steve (16:47):
Yeah, we went on a couple dates. And, yeah, I
mean, we. We banged one out. So,
like. Yeah, like, I've banged people. Like,
no one you'll see. No one you'll see. On mtv.
Leif (16:59):
Nate arrives with Dan and Ves at the Vanderbilt
Compound by limo. However, the titular
grandfather one ups the limo by arriving via
helicopter trip, reveals that the grandfather
didn't actually ask for Nate to come.
Steve (17:13):
Yeah, I get Nate's reaction to be
like, oh, well, fuck this. And this was
also where I feel like where Vanessa and
Dan would be more like,
hey, man. Yeah, that's kind of fucked up, but it's
just a constant, like, no go toward your fa.
Like, I just felt like it was
(17:33):
pushing Nate. And maybe it's because I'm a guy that people keep
telling me to talk.
Leif (17:37):
To my dad, but, like, I
mean, but I totally. What? You're already
there. It would be childish to get up and leave
now. At least just talk to him, see what happens.
Steve (17:48):
Yeah, I get it. I
just kind of felt Vanessa was
very pushy for something that I, think that
maybe in the back of my head, the whole time I was thinking,
vanessa, this is not gonna work out for you
in the long run. Like, I felt like it was
against Vanessa's best interest.
Leif (18:09):
Yeah. it was pushy, but I think sometimes people need
that.
Steve (18:13):
That's fair. That's fair.
Leif (18:15):
I think Nate needed it here, and.
Steve (18:18):
And I was not mad. Oh, well, I guess
we're not quite there yet.
Leif (18:22):
And this is also the start of, Dan being
just witty all episode.
Steve (18:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Leif (18:30):
Is that a medevac?
Steve (18:31):
Yeah.
Leif (18:33):
Must be close to a hospital.
Steve (18:35):
You told me it was a mansion, not a country
club.
Leif (18:39):
And I feel like Penn was just having fun and improving this
whole episode.
Steve (18:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there's also the
line about when he walks in and
starts talking about universal healthcare. And
what topics do you think I should talk about?
Leif (18:56):
The grandfather is at first surprised to see Nate.
However, he quickly embraces Nate to the applause of the
gathered family.
Steve (19:04):
Yeah, I thought that was a
sweet moment.
Leif (19:08):
Again, Dan's just, like, looking at. Why is everyone clapping?
Steve (19:14):
I think Dan was probably my favorite
in a lot of ways in this episode. I think that he.
Yeah.
Leif (19:21):
Looks like V. Is leading a lost lamb back to the
flock. And C. Is coming to be
sheepishly bearing gifts. Chuck arrives at
Blair's to find her lounging in negligee.
Carter nonchalantly walks up and kisses
Blair. Chuck is totally rattled.
Carter pushes Chuck further by revealing to Blair
that Chuck had been pursuing a hooker while
(19:44):
Blair's life went up in flames.
Steve (19:46):
Fucking got him.
Leif (19:48):
Got him.
Steve (19:51):
Yeah.
Leif (19:51):
And I will give Ed, Westwick, some props for the facial
acting. He did really well.
Steve (19:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And didn't lose his accent when he
came out of Batman voice. So,
like, good job, Ed. Yeah.
Leif (20:06):
And then before we go to commercial, we get another Gossip Girl
narration. We hear Carter Basin
dealt Chuck another losing hand. But rest assured,
Upper East Siders, Chuck always has a card up
his sleeve. Act two
begins. The grandfather is giving Nate, Dan,
and Vanessa a tour of the mansion. After the grandfather
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tells Nate he is proud of him for how he handled the situation with his
father, Trip comes in and lets everyone know it's time
for some quote unquote touch
football.
Steve (20:35):
I had no problems with the
grandfather in this. I don't think
the grandfather did anything. He
welcomed his grandson back and then
tells him how proud he is. And he says the thing about,
I was worried that you had your mom's looks and your dad's
brains, but I'm really proud of you for handling
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that the way you did. That the grandfather
was not just bailing them out.
And I know Nate felt like he
was abandoned and
destitute, but he was abandoned and
destitute in a mansion
in the Hamptons. So
I feel like there's a little bit of
(21:18):
perspective for Nate of, we didn't
abandon you. Your mom
married a fucking idiot, so she has
to live in this place because we're not bailing the idiot
out. And I thought, I think
that's fair. You know,
nobody went hungry, nobody
starved. And to be
(21:39):
like, I'm really proud of how you
handled that, I would be too. So
I have at this point, I.
Leif (21:47):
Also don't think they could have bailed their
house out, because that was frozen by. The assets were
frozen.
Steve (21:53):
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Leif (21:55):
There's nothing they could really do about that.
Steve (21:56):
Yeah.
Leif (21:57):
But they did give him a fricking mansion in the Hamptons.
Steve (22:00):
Yeah. Yeah. They abandoned them.
With only a mansion that's
probably fully staffed
in the Hampton.
Leif (22:11):
Blair and Serena are shopping. Blair is
explaining her new not planned plan and the
Carter situation. Serena is scandalized when
Blair walks out of the store without paying.
Steve (22:22):
Yeah, okay, Blair.
Okay.
Leif (22:26):
I like the coat though.
Steve (22:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Leif (22:28):
Serena is so shocked, she calls Chuck to discuss
the Carter and Blair relationship.
Steve (22:33):
Yep. And they, they, they
all have history with Carter, which we already know.
So that, that'll be a fun team up.
Leif (22:42):
Serena, arrives home to find Lily making her
list. In addition to Bart and Trent Reznor,
the list also contains slash.
Serena advises to make an assessment of
Rufus list before revealing her whole list.
Steve (22:57):
Serena was great here. The
digs.
Leif (23:00):
She was definitely funny. But Lily, why are you
taking relationship advice from a teenager?
Steve (23:06):
Yeah, yeah. Why? Yes, because
it's a teenage plotline. Like it's
not a good adult
relationship line. I
did love Serena's wittiness.
Her one liners were
absolutely hilarious.
Leif (23:25):
The techno pop beats of MGMT
Drop as we see Nate and Dan roughing up on the
football field. Very reminiscent of the football
scene from Wedding Crashers when a lot of people were first
introduced to Bradley Cooper.
Steve (23:38):
Yep. I actually have Wedding Crashers written down
here because that was exactly what I thought. Which
came first?
Leif (23:44):
I'm pretty sure Wedding Crashers. That was like
2001 or 2002, Bradley
Cooper's debut. It, wasn't his debut, but it was his
first, like, famous role.
Steve (23:55):
Okay. Wow. Okay.
because I love that's. I love that movie. That's one of those when it.
When it's on and I'm not doing anything else, that
it just stays on and I watch it. But also, I feel like
in this scene, be is starting to
realize what it means to push
Nate back to the family.
Leif (24:15):
Yes. Because, as we see on a terrace overlooking the
action, Vanessa and Trip's fiance Maureen have
a conversation about joining the Vanderbilt family
and what that means.
Steve (24:26):
Yeah. Which you're laying on this 18 year
old, and it
is that sense of.
Leif (24:33):
Well, I don't think she's much older.
Steve (24:35):
Yeah, no, no, I. I mean, I. I. I gathered that.
She was probably, like, 22.
Leif (24:40):
Yeah. I would figure that he Their law school
age.
Steve (24:43):
Yeah.
Leif (24:44):
Aaron Tripp.
Steve (24:45):
Yeah. Yeah. So I would figure around 22,
23. I. I think it's more with
Vanessa. I forget the
fiance's name, but she lays out for Vanessa why
it's good for her, though, too. Yeah,
like. Like all of your advocacy
and all of your. We,
love that. Yeah, we love that for
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Nate and for his future
wife. So, yes, you are
now welcome into this
week. I think the Vanessa
realizes it's a. We can benefit from you
being with Nate, and
I think that that is part of what gets
her head turning. But really,
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Vanessa, she's right.
You do have access to make all of these things that
you want to do come true if you
just postpone a trip.
Leif (25:43):
But, I mean, at 17, 18, that's
tough.
Steve (25:46):
Yeah, it is. It is.
Leif (25:49):
There's that patience. Then Carter arrives at the
Vander Woodsen penthouse. Chuck stares in wonder while
Serena blackmails Carter into leaving town based on something
that happened in Santorini.
Steve (26:00):
Yeah, I do love that Serena just
kind of owns him. It's also just one
of those. Well, this. It was sort of
like Georgina Sparks getting rid of her that
it was halfway through an episode. Well,
here's a, vague reason that you should get out of here.
Leif (26:20):
At least it is something that they did mention before.
Steve (26:22):
Yeah. Yeah, it did come back. And I did.
I did like that. I do like
Serena having something on Carter. I also
like Carter. Sort of thinks that he has something on
Serena. But Serena kind of doesn't care
about a lot of her past anymore now
that the guy that she didn't kill by handing him
cocaine is all out in the open.
Leif (26:45):
Blair knocks on a strange door and enters
as we go to commercial break with a Gossip Girl Narration
spotted Bea taking one small step
for new Blair. One giant step towards a
strange townhouse. Enter at your own risk,
Bea.
Steve (27:01):
So how many in the forums thought that she was
walking into the gentleman's
club that Chuck had
been at the previous two
weeks?
Leif (27:13):
Didn't see any match in that, but there
was. It's now live reaction thread. So it's.
Steve (27:18):
Yeah, but is that. I felt like that's. They wanted
us to think. That's what I mean.
That's what I thought. I felt like that it was,
Leif (27:27):
I just kind of thought she was going to some party.
Steve (27:29):
That's fair.
Leif (27:31):
Back from commercial, Rufus and Lily exchange
lists after dinner. Rufus's list is rather
short, so Lily only gives one of the two pages she
wrote. Even the shortened list gives Rufus pause.
Steve (27:42):
This is on an index card.
Leif (27:47):
Dan limps back to the loft with Vanessa in
tow. Jenny and Dan tag team Vanessa into
explaining the conversation with Maureen and how Vanessa is
worried that the grandfather is going to control too much
of their lives.
Steve (28:00):
And she's maybe valid in
her concern. However,
Nate doesn't know who he is, and Nate has
always been a puppy dog chasing after the new
thing, and some structure could
do him good. So if
grandfather is going to
help him find a path, I'm not,
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I'm not angry about that. I
feel like everything in this
is coming up Nate right now, except
for Vanessa not wanting that for him.
Leif (28:34):
I know you're a Nate stab, but this is just more of Nate
being a flip floppy hypocrite because all first
season he was telling, everyone how much he didn't want his family to
control what he's doing.
Steve (28:43):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, you're right.
I feel like he didn't want his
dad controlling what he was doing.
You know, I feel like a lot of that
was. But I'm not disagreeing with
you either. Nate always does this. Nate always goes back
and forth, and Nate always chases the big shiny thing that
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is dangling in front of him. I do. I am a
Nate, Stan. I do love Nate. I feel like Nate
always tries to do the
right thing. I think he usually tries
to do the right thing, but when women get
involved, he loses. He
gets a little gray area and goes puppy dog
chasing.
Leif (29:25):
Chuck and Serena are begging De Roda to reveal where
Blair is so they can help her. When Chuck offers money,
Dorota curses at him in Polish.
Steve (29:33):
Dorota is not for sale,
Mr. Chuck.
Leif (29:38):
And, yeah, I did actually look up the translation.
basically translated to, are you crazy, you
little shit? I work for Ms. Blair, not for you. What do you think
you can buy me?
Steve (29:50):
That's fantastic. but, yeah.
Dorota not for sale.
Leif (29:54):
I love that.
Steve (29:56):
And I also love
when Dorota was like. And she said if
Mr. Chuck comes by to let him know that Carter
Basin is much more.
Much more attentive to a woman's needs.
Leif (30:14):
Over dinner, Nate is reassuring Vanessa that nothing
is going to change. Vanessa tells Nate that
she. That he should go meet Trip and the grandfather.
They have all summer to eat pierogies.
Steve (30:25):
Yeah. She sends him out to go
do. To go see the grandfather and
talk to him about these things. Nate
was all happy to sit here and hang out with you.
You sent him back with his family,
so you. You set
this all in motion. Vanessa
(30:47):
again, she was.
Leif (30:48):
She thought she was trying to do the right thing.
Steve (30:49):
Yeah, I. I feel like maybe she did do the right
thing. It's just not the right thing for Vanessa.
Leif (30:55):
I mean, she could have just gone along with it and
gotten everything she wanted as well.
Steve (31:00):
I mean, yeah.
Leif (31:02):
Chuck and Serena arrive at the strange townhouse
expecting some type of bacchana, but instead
find Blair begging for admittance into Sarah
Lawrence. However, knowing about the hazing of
Ms. Carr, the dean turns her down.
Steve (31:16):
Blair facing real
consequences that are
long term and impactful
is probably pretty jarring
to her. She's obviously had
other things that had consequences.
Sleeping with Chuck and Nate, there were
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consequences, but they blew over.
Leif (31:39):
They were social consequences.
Steve (31:40):
They were social consequences that blew over
her.
Leif (31:43):
This is a life consequence.
Steve (31:45):
Right. Her eating disorder had consequences,
and she struggles with it, but she
still has the help to
work through it. But this is.
You're not getting into college right
now. Like, right now. Like, nobody wants
to take you. You're gonna have to go to Upper
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east side community college.
Leif (32:07):
again, so this is one of the scenes I didn't really like the writing
on, because why did he even agree
to the meeting?
Steve (32:15):
Yeah, yeah, I agreed to meet with you because
I'm doing the middle of.
Leif (32:19):
Night first so I can turn you down.
Steve (32:21):
Yeah, yeah. So I can see the
tears in your eyes
myself.
Leif (32:28):
Also, not that he doesn't deserve it, but Roman Polanski
catching a stray from Chuck at the beginning.
But, yeah, that was, like, 30 at the time of this
air. That was already over 30 years old.
Joke.
Steve (32:41):
Yeah. Yeah. and again, there's a lot
of times that you see not only in Gossip Girl,
but just when you get those writers who are referencing things
that are way outdated, and
it's like, people have Already there are new references you can
make to these things. You don't need to keep making those old
references. I see it in Buffy a lot
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that like, even though Buffy is from 30
years ago, they're making references
from the the episode the Zeppo
we just watched. No
one who wasn't like a film buff
knew. Yeah, you had to be know the Marx
Brothers to know the, the Zeppo.
Leif (33:21):
Although don't they explain it in the episode?
Steve (33:23):
She just says you're the Zeppo. She just,
she. She just makes the reference. She doesn't explain who
Zeppo is.
Leif (33:30):
Chuck and Serena follow Blair outside, glad
that she is still fighting. However, Blair is now more
distraught than ever.
Steve (33:37):
Yeah, she's cracking.
Leif (33:40):
And we go to the act break with another Gossip
Girl monologue. Poor Bea
couldn't spin this one in her favor. Looks like now
she's spinning out. We move
into Act 3. Serena and Chuck
find Blair at the Vanderbilt reception.
Blair plans on blowing up her reputation and pissing
off as many people as possible. She starts by
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dropping the Dan and Ms. Carr sex bomb on
Serena.
Steve (34:06):
Yeah, that. That was rude.
It was rude, but it was going to come out
eventually. And it's funny. We talked last week about who
will she tell? And I love that when she
told it, it was like, oh, I'm in my fuck it's
phase. So here's some information.
I actually love how all of that. I love the
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fallout from this too.
Leif (34:31):
Dan and Vanessa pass through security. Dan
is being snarky about the Vanderbilts wealth and politics.
The grandfather swoops in to pull Nate away for
a bit. Dan wonders if the Humphreys have a
family crest.
Steve (34:44):
I would really like to reach out
to listeners to really know what they
believe the Humphrey
family crest would look like. I would
love for someone to design for us the
Humphrey family crest and send
that to us. I think that is
(35:06):
on the front.
Leif (35:07):
Of my mind as Humphrey. Is that a Scottish name?
Steve (35:10):
Humphrey, I think. Is it British or
Scottish? It might be Scottish.
Leif (35:15):
Scottish. They probably do have a family grass somewhere.
Steve (35:17):
Yeah, yeah.
Unless Humphrey is Scottish for a
profession.
Leif (35:26):
Rufus, the big snooper, goes into Lily's
purse looking for cash, but finds the other half
of Lily's list.
Steve (35:33):
Is she okay with you going into her purse? Like,
is this, Is this an acceptable thing?
Thing? Have you had that conversation?
I. I can go into Robin's purse whenever I
want to. Because we have that established
that, you know. Oh yeah, it's in my purse. Go ahead. And
I still don't do it unless she
specifically says, it's in my
(35:55):
purse, you know, but if I'm, like, looking for something around the
house, if I look in her purse and I'm like, oh, I checked your purse,
she would say, okay, no big deal. But I still
don't do that without letting her know first.
Leif (36:06):
Yeah. I mean, there's usually stuff in women's purses that I don't want to
see.
Steve (36:09):
Yeah, yeah. I mean,
yeah. Like pictures of her kids.
Leif (36:16):
Lily doesn't have pictures of her kids.
Steve (36:17):
No, Lily wouldn't have.
Leif (36:19):
No, Lily wouldn't have pictures of her kids.
Back at the reception, a drunken trip tells
Vanessa that Nate has an internship at the mayor's
office and can no longer go on the backpacking
vacation.
Steve (36:32):
And this is where I'm feeling like
Vanessa is getting selfish. And
where it comes out that. Yeah, yeah,
that she. That. Because
I get. She probably doesn't want to go
do this Europe trip alone.
But it also kind of reinforces the.
(36:53):
It's not going to happen without Nate.
So, again, I feel like Nate is going to be
the one really financing this trip. But
also, here's something that he is suddenly
interested in.
Leif (37:07):
Do you have anything else on that?
Steve (37:10):
I'll just close with. I feel like
Vanessa is being selfish now.
Leif (37:15):
I don't know if you caught it, but as Vanessa walks
away, there was a lingering shot on
trip, like, doing the whole Broadway thing, staring
at the camera with an expression of like, my
plan is going exactly as I thought. So was there
another deleted scene here? Was it. Was there a scheme going on
here that we didn't find out about?
Steve (37:34):
Yeah, I know what you're talking about,
and I kind of dismissed it because,
of that. Because it didn't seem like anything was really coming
through to a whole plan
on his part. I don't feel like it was well
executed if that was the intention.
I also kind of feel like it could have just been.
(37:54):
Now that you're mentioning the Broadway thing, we
know how much Broadway actors struggle
with the, with the fourth wall.
Leif (38:03):
Ryan from the OC Nate confesses
that he is strongly considering the internship because
it is an amazing opportunity. Nate leaves
Vanessa, who looks to be on the verge of tears.
Steve (38:15):
Vanessa, you wanted him to reconnect with his family,
and this is what reconnecting with a rich and
powerful family looks like.
I think that I feel like a lot of this should
have been predictable. And maybe
not losing my summer of fun
predictable, but
getting wrapped up in the family politics
(38:38):
predictable. Like, that is what is going to
happen. And maybe there's that part
in Nate who knew that's what was going to
happen that was also keeping him from wanting
to come back. But then once the path
is laid out and it's like, here's the super
easy thing for you to do. Just go work for the mayor
(38:58):
and do whatever they tell you to do.
Leif (39:00):
Yeah.
Steve (39:00):
And because if Nate's good at anything, it's doing what he's told to
do.
Leif (39:04):
Yeah. I mean, I guess she just didn't expect them to kind of
control what he's doing.
Steve (39:08):
Yeah, I guess I just. What did
you expect?
Leif (39:12):
That they would have family holidays and.
Steve (39:15):
Yeah.
Leif (39:15):
Play football.
Steve (39:16):
Yeah.
Leif (39:18):
Because that's what they talked about.
Steve (39:20):
Yeah. But Vanessa, you see all of this
all the time. Like, you see these people that you
see it happen to. So I'm, not necessarily
trying to blame Vanessa, but I blame Vanessa.
Leif (39:34):
Blair continues to drop scandal bombs on
unsuspecting society types, but is pulled away by
Chuck. Once alone, Blair tries to seduce
Chuck, but he doesn't take the bait.
Steve (39:44):
First of all, blowing up all those people's business was
fucking great. I'm not mad at
that one bit.
Leif (39:53):
Third marriage, DUI. was it five
DUIs? Five DUIs? how do you get five DUIs? I guess
be rich.
Steve (40:00):
Yeah, five DUIs. but you drink
so much to deal with the fact that your
husband made all of his money in the porn industry.
Leif (40:08):
Big fan of your sights.
Steve (40:10):
Big fan of your sites.
I did want to add one thing. When Blair
took Chuck. When Chuck took Blair into the
other room, Chuck had very strong
Faith vibes. Very strong. Like,
a lot. If Elijah Dushku was a better actor,
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it was very reminiscent of
that Faith Xander scene. I could say it's also in the
Zeppo when. When she
basically, like, like,
forces herself on Xander in a
very. Xander's very happy, willing, and
accepting of this. But when she really forces
himself on her, I found a big parallel
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there in how that went
down, but I didn't really know. I. I had
this, like, man, I wish Elijah Dushku was a
better actor because Faith would have been so much cooler.
Leif (41:03):
Hell, Buffy Pants let you hear that.
Steve (41:06):
I know, I know. I like Elijah
Dushku as Fate because she's Faith, and I
liked her in Dollhouse because that's what she did.
But she's mid. She's
mediocre. Yeah, come at me. Come at
me. She might be one of the better actors on the
show,
but she's mid.
Leif (41:27):
We go to the commercial with another Gossip Girl
narration. The danger with
Calling someone's bluff is that even if you win,
you risk them walking away from the table for
good. And who wants to play with themselves?
Nate finds Blaire sitting alone in an unheated
room and offers his coat. They reminisce about the past.
(41:48):
And I think Blair sort of remembers why she was in
love with Nate Archibald.
Steve (41:53):
oh, but also, this could be a good time for
this. I was very much stanning the Nate
Vanessa thing. I feel like this is a good time for
that shakeup and for this Blair Nate
shakeup when, when. When he came out and saw
her there and gave her the coat. I feel like this
was one of the better written scenes. I
actually like the, the back and forth and the,
(42:15):
You like watching the same movies over and over. Do you
remember what you told me? I like, know how things turn out. I like
the. How conversational it was.
Leif (42:23):
I like, I like the scene. I do
not like where it's going. It's more of Nate
going back into that, putting himself back into that corner he was in
the first season with his family controlling him. he's stuck in a
relationship with Blair and it was pretty clear
that Blair just wants to use him.
Steve (42:40):
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
I felt like the shake up
is what I liked about it. Vanessa, I think Vanessa just
pissed me off. This episode.
Leif (42:50):
Serena finds Dan and gives him a nice smack
for about two seconds. Dan tries to defend himself, but
quickly apologizes for his actions. The scene ends
with the pair laughing about the whole thing.
Steve (43:01):
Dan's defenses
that he had were.
I felt like he really put thought into
that prior to this and was
like, look, she wasn't my teacher. but,
Serena being like, it was like 20ft away from where I
was standing. Okay, I'll give you
that.
Leif (43:21):
It was a funny scene. But again, I don't like
that. They're basically equating Dan sleeping with
a teacher being just as bad as a teacher sleeping with a
student.
Steve (43:31):
No, no, absolutely. I.
Leif (43:33):
What? What is that?
Steve (43:34):
Yes.
Leif (43:35):
yeah, last time they were, oh, dad's going to get
expelled. And it's like, what?
Steve (43:42):
And it is that high fiving the guys
and shaming the women that they sleep
with. Kind of in that same vein of
now, oh, you're the guy who went and did
this. But it's like that teacher
was at work
and in a closet with a kid
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she was told to stay away from because
of the rumors of them fucking.
Leif (44:10):
Lily confronts Rufus about his passive aggressive
attitude. Rufus reels, reveals he found the other
half of the list. The pair argue. Yes.
H. Everyone sucks here.
Steve (44:20):
Yeah. I, My only thing is that I do love when
Lily has no time for Rufus's
bullshit. I love. I love her
reactions when Rufus says. Well, it wouldn't
be the whole. The whole honesty or whatever. When
Lily's like, oh, Jesus Christ. When she has
that moment. I love, I love that she
just never has time for Rufus's passive aggressive
(44:42):
bullshit.
Leif (44:43):
I do like that every scene has Lily kind
of lounging out because they're hiding her. Kelly's
pregnancy.
Steve (44:49):
Yes. It's funny because I didn't
notice it in that first episode. In the first
episode where you mentioned it in the one with
Jack and
now it is so
obvious. The big coat and then walking and
standing right behind the counter when she talked to Rufus.
In the one scene, a lot of counters, a lot
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of neck up and a lot of. The
one. The one that I was really impressive
was. It's the later scene
with her when she's really lounging
and it looks like
they have made a
costume. That is a
pillow that. So when she's
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lounging on it, it's part. It
looks. I'm pretty sure that the pillow is
actually part of her dress and that
she's sitting straight up and down.
But they make it look like a lean.
With the costuming. I'm. That was
my. How I saw that outfit.
Leif (45:54):
Vanessa is apologizing to Nate for earlier when
they are interrupted by an announcement from the grandfather about
Nate's internship.
Call your travel agent, kitties. Looks like Nate
Archbold traded in a summer of love for a one
way ticket to his legacy.
Steve (46:12):
This is the point where I felt like Vanessa has spent this
episode trying to remind me how much she sucks.
I just. I was annoyed with you.
Leif (46:19):
I didn't get that at all.
Steve (46:21):
Yeah, I was really annoyed.
Leif (46:22):
I was fine with Vanessa. This episode we move
into the epilogue. Serena comes home and
finds Chuck drinking alone. She urges him
to keep fighting for Blair and he knows what to
say.
Steve (46:35):
Ah, vulnerable. Chuck.
Leif (46:38):
Back in Brooklyn, Vanessa discusses her relationship
status with Dan and Jenny. Dan and Jenny both
advise giving Nate space, but that it will work out
in the end.
Steve (46:48):
I've dealt with Upper east side grandparents.
Leif (46:50):
Before, which he has.
Steve (46:53):
Yes. Also, this was the. So
I mentioned it at the top of the. Of the
show that I thought there was something up with
Dan and Vanessa. And I felt like it was reinforced here
with them sitting there, him
kind of consoling her. I
see.
Leif (47:11):
I just got big sibling vibes from all three of
them.
Steve (47:14):
I get. I get something.
Obviously there's. There's a shake
up with Vanessa happening, so,
see?
Leif (47:24):
We'll see. Rufus returns to the penthouse and
apologizes to Lily. And the final Gossip Girl
narration begins.
Springtime. A season for rebirth and new
beginnings. For some, it's a chance to turn over a
new leaf. Looks like
their, issues are resolved for now.
Steve (47:43):
Yeah.
Leif (47:44):
Chuck arrives at the Blair's house, but is once again
turned away by Doroda. As Dorota goes back
upstairs, Chuck sees something that disturbs him.
Steve (47:53):
Oh, that. I'm sorry. That previous scene is the one where
she had that outfit that I was talking about.
When Dorota totally cockblocked Chuck,
I was like, Nate is up there. And
Robin's like, no, Nate is at his grandfather's. Why
would Nate be at the wall? Nate's not there. I'm like, nate is
in that room with Blair right now.
Leif (48:12):
We switch to the bedroom where Nate is saying goodbye to
Blair after bringing her home. Blair asked
Nate to stay, and I was like,
boom.
Steve (48:23):
ITV so hard.
Leif (48:25):
For others, it's the surprise of seeing something
bloom. We shift back to Chuck,
and it is revealed that he saw Nate's coat.
J. Miller Tobin ends the episode almost exactly
the same way they ended Poison Ivy with a
dramatic multi stage pull out.
Steve (48:42):
Yep.
Leif (48:43):
Exact same shot.
Steve (48:44):
Yeah. Oh, wow.
Leif (48:47):
It's Blair and Serena. Like, they do that. Like. Yeah, they pull
out. It stops. Pull outs again. And then one more time.
Yeah, they do the same exact thing here. And
we end the episode with.
But yours truly, it's a reminder that
on the Upper east side, everything old can be
new again. XOXO
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Gossip Girl Episode done.
Predictions going forward.
Steve (49:13):
Dan and Vanessa. Dan and Vanessa is my
biggest prediction. I think that Blair and Nate
are not going to last, but I think that they're going
to. I think that they're going to have an awkward
the morning after because I think Nate right now
is. Is kind of in this. Oh,
maybe I do want everything that I said I didn't
(49:33):
want last. Last season. And, I.
I don't deny that Nate's a big flip flopper. I just,
I. I just think that's Nate.
Leif (49:40):
Well, what. What big event have we not got to.
That's traditional for the end of senior year, Senior
trip?
Steve (49:47):
Prom. We got prom coming up.
Okay, we've got prom. We've
got.
Leif (49:53):
I don't see Chuck as a prom guy.
Steve (49:55):
No, but Nate's definitely a prom. Nate is a
prom guy for sure.
Yep.
Leif (50:02):
And you know, you say Dan and Vanessa, but
he's gonna go with Serene.
Steve (50:06):
He,
Leif (50:07):
Vanessa has had sparks with someone else this season.
Steve (50:10):
Vanessa has had sparks with someone other
than Dan and other than Nate.
No,
no, no. Because, she's not going.
No.
Leif (50:24):
Well, maybe I'd rather that than
the Dan.
Steve (50:28):
Yep. Facts.
Leif (50:30):
That is it for our episode. Let's get into some
segments. We jump into the Wayback Machine
to visit the Television without pity forums from
2009. Hello there,
Peabody here. And this is the Wayback Machine
for traveling through time.
Steve (50:46):
And this is my boy, Sherman. Speak,
Sherman. Hello.
Leif (50:50):
Good boy. They were definitely glad
Ms. Carr and the Eyes Wide Shut storylines are over.
Very bored of Rufus and Lily. They with the
will they or won't they? People watch for the teens, not the
parents.
Steve (51:02):
Yeah, that whole storyline
about them, their role in
this show now should be more
about their relationship with
their kids than their relationship with
each other. They're together. Yeah, we're, we're, we're good with
this. Don't give them
teenage drama to shake
(51:25):
up their thing. Just let them fucking be.
Leif (51:28):
Surprising praise for Dan's witty
pretentiousness. Normally they don't like Dan being pretentious.
Steve (51:33):
Yeah, but it was, but he was funny. He
was.
Leif (51:37):
And again, I think it was just improv.
Steve (51:39):
Yeah, yeah, that, that, that
scans.
Leif (51:42):
Where's Eric?
Steve (51:44):
I mean, where is Eric half the time?
Leif (51:47):
Not a lot of sympathy for Chuck at this point.
Steve (51:51):
Chuck did go chasing down a
hooker while. While his love
of his life apparently was
spiraling. So I don't really. And
I very seldom have any sympathy for
Chuck.
Leif (52:05):
And then finally, Nair are cute, but
can't match the chemistry of chair. Yeah, the
sounds cute, but they just don't really have much chemistry.
Steve (52:13):
Yeah, that's true too.
Leif (52:17):
Let's go ahead and move it to some episode grades. What do
you got, Steve?
Steve (52:22):
I went C plus on this one. I thought
it was an okay
episode. I hated the Rufus and
Lily storyline. I
thought the Blair stuff was okay. I didn't think it
was well written like we had talked about. I thought there was a
few moments where I was like, oh, I think that this was
(52:43):
a nice bit of dialogue.
But for the most part I didn't think it was very well written.
so yeah, I went C. I.
Leif (52:51):
Didn'T go quite that low. I thought the
directing was very good in this episode. The acting was
good. The writing was hit or miss in a couple
scenes. But overall I liked it. So I give it a
B.
Steve (53:03):
Fair.
Leif (53:05):
Moving over to Stockwatch, who you got going up?
Steve (53:08):
I have Nate Going up. Nate
has all these things. He's going to be interning
for the mayor. I mean, good job, Nate. I have grandfather
going up. He got his grandson back. And
grandfather, who is only ever referred to as
grandfather, is,
also has his
family back in line going the way he
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wants it to. And I'm going to give Dan an up because
Dan was fun this episode. I don't think
he really went anywhere, but he was witty and
fun, so I'm going to give him the up.
Leif (53:41):
This is one. Is a tough one for me. I did consider
Dan because he was Woody, but then he also got slapped, so I
kept him m at neutral.
Steve (53:48):
Yeah, that's fair, too.
Leif (53:49):
So the only two I had going up were Dorota because she
was loyal and awesome, as usual.
Steve (53:54):
I want to add Dorota to mine. Yes.
Leif (53:57):
And then the grandfather for the same reason as you said. He got
everything he wanted.
Steve (54:00):
Yeah. Yeah.
Leif (54:02):
Who do you have going down?
Steve (54:03):
Blair for spiraling. I have Vanessa
going down for setting all of that up
and only to lose everything she
wanted. And then I have Carter going down
for getting one up by Serena.
Leif (54:17):
And those are my downs for me. I had Blair because.
Yeah, she continues to spiral. Chuck
is. He got dissed by Carter
and didn't really do much. also losing out
to Nate. It looks like Carter because he got kicked out
of town. Vanessa for losing Nate.
Nate for just being a dumbass and getting led by his
family and being kind of a slut.
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Vanessa wasn't even totally sure they broke up, and he's already hooking up with
Blair.
Steve (54:45):
Yeah. Yeah.
Leif (54:47):
And then Lily, because she brought that whole mess on
herself.
Steve (54:50):
Oh, well, that's fair, too. I do want to add Chuck to
mine because I kind of had him at neutral,
but now. Yeah, he
fucking.
Leif (54:59):
He got punked by Carter and.
Steve (55:01):
Yeah. And by Nate.
Yeah.
Leif (55:02):
Yeah.
Steve (55:04):
But here's the best outfits from the.
Last episode we've seen.
Leif (55:12):
Best outfit. Who do you got?
Steve (55:13):
Chuck's suit. That with the pink collar
and. Yeah, I dug that.
Leif (55:19):
For me, it was, I'm. I'm gonna have to just change
this to the best Blair Waldorf outfit award, because
Blair's, a liche bandage dress was
phenomenal.
Steve (55:28):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that. Is that the blue
one or the.
Leif (55:33):
Blue and white one? The one that she's trying to seduce Chuck in.
Steve (55:35):
Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah. That I, That was on my
list, and I was like, I'm gonna go with Chuck suit.
But I was. I was looking at that, too.
Leif (55:44):
You Got anything to plug this week?
Steve (55:46):
At this moment, I believe this
Wednesday I will be. It's either this Wednesday
or next Wednesday. I will be at Dawson
street for the open mic. I will be the featured
act. So come on out to the open mic, come play some
music and I'll be the featured act.
Leif (56:03):
For me, by now my episode of Farm to
Fable should be released. That's Farm, the
Fable podcast. Recapping,
Smallville. I am on episode
seven of season eight. So check that
out. And then if you want to follow
me on social media you can find me on Instagram and
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You want to send us an email or get in touch with us or have
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if you could tell a friend what you are
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(57:35):
Girl fans.
Leif (57:36):
And we will be back next week to Talk about Season
2 Episode 20, Remains of
the J. The Netflix episode
description reads serena throws Jenny a
partier, for her 16th birthday. But things get out
of control when Poppy Lifton turns the small
gathering into a huge social
event.
Steve (57:56):
Oh Jesus Christ. Poppy.
Leif (57:59):
But glad we got Jenny back in the main storyline.
Steve (58:02):
Poppy is Serena's friend. Yeah. Okay. I was
thinking, I was thinking Agnes.
Leif (58:08):
Huh?
Steve (58:08):
Yeah. Yeah. It's nice to have Jenny back in the
spotlight. In the spotlight. We've been missing her.
Leif (58:14):
Until next time. You know you love us.
Steve (58:17):
Xoxo.
Every time you walk away, run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away m you take a
piece of me with you there
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oh, it seems I'm walking right to
your door
my heart's still resting looking for
something more
Are you ever gonna see everything you mean to
me? I'm trying really hard to believe
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
(58:59):
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Never feels right when I'm out here on my
own
(59:22):
I left last night and it feels like
way too long
are you ever gonna see everything you mean
to me I'm trying really hard to believe
every time you walk away run away and take a
piece of meat with you there
Every time you walk away run away you take a
(59:44):
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Come back to me
smile and you'll make my life
complete
(01:00:07):
every time you walk away run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
(01:00:29):
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away and take a
piece of me you with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there Hm
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
(01:00:52):
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there.
Vanessa has had sparks with someone else this season.
Steve (00:04):
Vanessa has had sparks with someone other
than Dan and other than Nate.
No.
No, no. Because she's not
going. No.
Well, maybe.
Leif (00:27):
Hey, Upper east siders and all you scandal loving listeners out
there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast
pod where the coffee is strong, the
waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than
ever. My name is Leif and I'm your seasoned Gossip
Girl veteran.
Steve (00:42):
And I'm Steve the greenhorn, the
newbie, the I don't know, Leif. What do we call the
season two newbie on. In Gossip Girl
terms?
Leif (00:51):
I don't know. But do you know how exhausting it is to be me?
All the work, the planning.
Steve (00:56):
I mean, I can only imagine.
I feel like in this case, I'm more the
Serena.
Leif (01:03):
Yep, probably.
Steve (01:06):
So here's the deal, folks. Leaf has been watching
since this show first aired in 2007, and
I'm diving in for the first time. And together, we're
your dynamic duo, bringing you all the drama,
romance, and sometimes questionable fashion
choices of this iconic 2007
series.
Leif (01:23):
That's right. Each week we're taking a deep dive into the
show one episode at a time. We'll analyze all
the hidden parallels and obscure references, and along the
way, we'll take a look at some stories from fandom and some behind the scenes
gossip.
Steve (01:36):
And since we're all about inclusivity here at the non
judging breakfast pod, there's always room for you at the non
judging breakfast table. So go ahead and
grab a cup of coffee or a mimosa, maybe
some of Chuck's special medicine and come join
us and, let's get into this.
Leif (01:54):
All right. Happy new year, everyone. It is January
6th when this episode will be coming out.
Steve (01:59):
Yeah. Happy new Year. Thank you for listening.
Leif (02:02):
Hopefully everyone had a good holidays. Whatever you
particularly celebrate.
Steve (02:06):
Yes. Enjoyed time with the family, if you want to be
around your family. And time alone, if you had nice
time alone.
Leif (02:13):
Yes. And I actually
read a post about that recently.
They. They were like, traumatized by their parents
for Christmas because they always had to do this, like some stupid
thing with family. This is the first year
that their m. Mom was dead and like, they were so happy
they could just be alone on
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Christmas.
Steve (02:35):
Jesus.
Leif (02:38):
Wow. Yeah.
Steve (02:40):
I mean, because we. I'm sure we all
have those like, traumatic
Christmas things. Like, like my
dad would often be very like, this
is the image I have in my head of how this is going
to go when the kids come down. And so when
we'd be excited to like, come down and, like,
(03:00):
open presents. My dad would often be like,
no, you wait. And
like, if we came down early, he'd get so
mad. Or if we didn't have enough excitement
at something we opened, he'd get really mad,
which I know I kind of did to my K
when they were really young. Out of that same.
Leif (03:20):
Yeah, I probably fact checked on this, but I've always heard that
in lease in the US Is the highest rate of
suicide in any month of the year.
Steve (03:28):
Yeah, I believe. Yeah, I would believe
that. In fact, I would think.
Yeah, December, I think, makes a
lot of sense. Yeah, that's.
Yeah. If you or someone, you know, is
struggling with depression, please get help.
Leif (03:45):
And,
Steve (03:46):
And I know we. We. That might sound like some
levity, but we do.
Leif (03:50):
Like, honestly, definitely, you're struggling even.
Just. Just talk to us. Reach out.
Steve (03:54):
Yeah.
Leif (03:55):
Happy to listen.
Steve (03:56):
Yeah, very much.
Leif (03:57):
Let's talk to someone.
Steve (03:58):
Yeah. Like we were saying, like, this could be very
fun time for people if it wasn't.
Please, you know, reach out or reach out to
a professional and find someone to talk
to.
Leif (04:10):
On a more positive note, we are here to talk about
season two, episode 19 of Gossip Girl
titled the Grandfather. The
Grandfather originally released on, March
23rd of 2009. And of course, the title is
based on the Godfather, Right.
Steve (04:27):
Which Robin only recently has
seen for the first time. We recently watched the
Godfather part one and two.
And when they make the
Corleone reference in this,
Robin was like, I get this
now.
Leif (04:44):
Now read the book.
Steve (04:46):
Oh, I read the book. I actually read the book before I saw the
movie. What's that?
Leif (04:50):
Have her read it.
Steve (04:51):
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I should. Because the book is.
It was, an amazing read. It was.
I tore through that because I was always. Ah. I
would either read nothing or tear
through a book in, like, two days.
Leif (05:07):
I actually like, his other book, too, Mario
Puzzles. Silmarillion, basically
is, the Family, which is based on the
Borgias.
Steve (05:15):
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Leif (05:17):
Like, his whole life working on that. It was like, I think this
last book he published.
Steve (05:21):
Oh, no kidding. Because I knew that. I know there's other
Godfather books, too. I know there's the Last
Dawn.
Leif (05:27):
Yeah.
Steve (05:28):
And I don't. Is there another Godfather
Part two book? Because I know
the movie mirrors the. The first book
mostly.
Leif (05:37):
and then the movie splits off completely. The Last diet
is not even. I don't even think he has two
other gangster mafia books.
But they're not the Corleone.
Steve (05:49):
Okay.
Leif (05:50):
They're other families.
Steve (05:51):
Yeah, well, yeah, because part two is
half original story and
half Godfather Part one.
Leif (05:59):
Yes. Okay, so this episode was written
by Robert Hole, who,
previously did the X Files and A Wonderful Lie
and co written by Etan Frankel,
previously co wrote on There Might Be Blood.
Steve (06:13):
Okay. Yeah. the writing on this one
had had good moments, and it had.
Leif (06:18):
Yeah, it's a mixed bag.
Steve (06:20):
Yeah, it really was. Which is funny having
co writers, they don't do that often.
And I can only imagine that if they. When they do
that, it is because there is specific things that
each contributed that they wanted credit
for, which tells me that one of these guys is probably
much better than the other.
Leif (06:39):
Or one person wrote the script
originally. The room didn't like it, and
someone else was coming to give it a fresh up.
Steve (06:48):
That makes a lot of sense, too. Yeah.
Leif (06:50):
Episode directed by J. Miller Tobin
previously did Poison Ivy, the Blair Bitch
Project. Some are kind of wonderful.
Steve (06:59):
Poison Ivy to date
may be my favorite. Yeah. Episode. I mean, Poison
Ivy is. Was a
fantastic episode.
Leif (07:08):
Yes. It's the only episode we both gave
a pluses to.
Steve (07:12):
Is it really? That's. That's funny.
Leif (07:14):
Why don't you go ahead and read the Vulture recap?
Steve (07:17):
All right. Unlike the Vanderbilts,
daily Intel will leave behind no oil
portraits, ancestors, or
presidential seals. Our recaps of
Gossip Girl are, our legacy.
We've devoted many evenings of our lives to
studying the facets of its characters.
(07:37):
And through it all, we've seen many of them
struggle to choose whether to act like their better
or worse selves. Chuck,
the wayward billionaire's son, is a
brash, bitter pervert with a tender
soul. Serena vacillates
between purposeful and accidental sluttiness.
Her mother, Lily, is like a human coconut
(07:59):
with two hard shells that, once cracked,
reveal a sweet, milky center. And
then there's Blair. This episode, it was
her turn to have an identity crisis. Early
on, she declared the old Blair dead.
It was time for the rise of the new Blair.
But then a funny thing happened. The new
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Blair was pretty much exactly the same as the old
Blair. She lounged around in
lingerie, freaked out about not getting into Yale.
She drank too much and acted like a total
B1 of her upper eas. One,
might take this as evidence that the character of
Blair is less multifaceted than her Upper
east side comrades, but we think it's just the
(08:41):
opposite. Her character is like the Hope
diamond, unbreakable and
precious. Pretty good,
yeah. Yeah, sums it up.
Yeah.
Leif (08:52):
Let's go ahead and get into the episode.
Act one Begins. There's some shots of Central
park covered in snow, and we get a Gossip
Girl narration. Springtime on the Upper
east side, where the winter chill is supposed to
be so last season. But when mittens and
scarves are all the rage, the best thing
you can do is just button up and hope for
(09:15):
warmer days.
Steve (09:16):
I did from the start. When I saw
this pair come on screen, I was like,
oh, no. And I'll talk more about it after you give
the.
Leif (09:26):
Dan and Vanessa are walking down the street in the snow.
They discussed Vanessa backpacking with Nate in Europe this
summer. Then they meet up with Nate and his cousin
Tripp, who is encouraging Nate to reconnect with the
grandfather. Nate wants no part of it. As he explains,
they cut off Nate and his mom when his father got
busted.
Steve (09:44):
It's coming. The Dan and
Vanessa. I felt when
I saw them together walking and talking, there
was something in me that was like,
oh, no. Like, they're getting
paired up right away in the beginning. And I
felt in my soul that there was a
foreshadowing happening there,
(10:06):
and I. I'll talk more on it later. But I
was like, oh, gross.
Leif (10:11):
I didn't really see it as different as any. Any other episode when they were
together.
Steve (10:15):
I. I don't know what it was. Right. There was something
in the two of them. They don't open
a lot of scene episodes together.
It was having the two of them paired
up talking about her
backpacking trip with Nate that I
just was like, there's.
(10:35):
I just felt something in my. In my gut.
Okay.
Leif (10:40):
so you're the Broadway guy. Did you recognize the actor
playing Trip?
Steve (10:45):
I did not.
Leif (10:46):
That is Aaron Trevette, who's apparently pretty popular
on Broadway.
Steve (10:50):
Oh, I was unaware.
Yeah. I don't recognize the name.
Leif (10:57):
Chuck enters Serena's room as he is concerned
about Blair blowing him off. Serena lets
Chuck know about Yale. Chuck ruins the moment by
making a gross joke.
Steve (11:07):
Yep. Chuck going through Serena's phone and then.
Leif (11:10):
Being a pervasive days before.
Passwords on phones.
Steve (11:14):
Yeah.
Leif (11:17):
Lily is meeting with art dealer Bex. Hey, I remember
her. Much to Lily's surprise, Bex points out that
Rufus probably remembers her too, because they totally did
it last season. Yeah.
Steve (11:28):
I didn't realize that it ever actually got that
far. To an actual. I guess they're okay. Yeah. At the end
of the one episode, they finally were like, okay,
let's go out. But, like,
they didn't. How much did you actually
date Rufus? like, how much did the two of
them actually date? Because she was
(11:48):
not with him. The next episode. And she
was in, I think, the next
episode. she was in one.
Leif (11:56):
They were together for a couple episodes.
They were doing a little dating dance.
And Purvis says in this episode that they dated a couple
times.
Steve (12:05):
Yeah. Yeah. I just. I. To
me, I guess big thing.
Right? But I guess the big thing is
Beck's being like. Oh, man.
Beck's being like a fucking teenager
about it is what really got me.
And. And this plotline.
Leif (12:24):
She wanted a reaction there.
Steve (12:25):
Yeah, she wanted to react. Exactly. This
plotline irked me because it was. Save it for the
kids. Yeah.
Leif (12:32):
Back at the townhouse, Nate has mastered the split
screen, but Dan and Vesa have come up with a plan to
family trap.
Steve (12:38):
Nate, why are you pushing
this?
Leif (12:42):
Well, they explain it.
Steve (12:43):
They do. I just for
one. Vanessa, who hates all of
this stuff. Right.
Leif (12:52):
Does she, though.
Steve (12:53):
Okay. Facts. And
we're gonna get to that later. Right? Cause I.
A lot to say about Vanessa
reminding us how much she sucks in this
episode.
Leif (13:05):
I actually didn't mind Vanessa in this episode.
Steve (13:07):
I got really irritated with
Vanessa because Vanessa, who
always professes being poor
and professes the
slumming it in the Brooklyn,
was very excited to be
traveling Europe on her boyfriend's dime.
So that's where I'm going to start with
(13:29):
that. And I'm not. And you
know, as somebody who has traveled on a friend's dime
before, like, I'm not shaming that.
I'm shaming the. I'm not even.
I'm not necessarily shaming anything. I just. I'm
just pointing out that Vanessa has always
spoken about how much she hates
(13:50):
these, like, the people around. Around.
More like around Dan and Nate.
Leif (13:56):
Now it is possible. And I could totally
see Vanessa being the type of person be assist.
Are like, staying in hostels. And basically, she's paying
for her half.
Steve (14:06):
I could see that too. That's never mentioned.
Leif (14:09):
Yeah.
Steve (14:10):
And. And there is,
like, other
indication of. I.
Leif (14:17):
She always has a job, so she's got. Yeah, she has some.
Steve (14:20):
I guess what I'm saying is that this trip probably wouldn't happen
without Nate's money. Even. Even if she's
making contributions and things like that, it's probably
not happening without Nate being
able to have some
luxury involved or at least
Nate providing certain aspects of
(14:40):
it.
Leif (14:40):
So I'm not even entirely convinced that Vanessa is all that
poor either.
Steve (14:45):
No, I think she's. I think she's Humphrey poor. I
think she's. I think she's poorer than the
Humphreys.
Leif (14:51):
I don't even know that she's been. She has to be at
least partially being supported by her parents, be able to live in
New York City.
Steve (14:58):
No, no. Yeah, yeah, I'm considering
the Humphreys are probably in a.
Into a 1 to 5 mil
range. That's kind of where I picture
them to be. So I would picture Vanessa to
be in the like 1 to 3. When I'm
saying poorer, I mean by a couple
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million.
Leif (15:21):
I was actually talking about the Humphrey wealth on
Reddit this week, saying how different
the OC and, and Gossip Girl are, because
the Humphreys probably have similar money to the
Cohen in.
Steve (15:33):
The OC and then the Cohen's.
So you're saying that they don't have. That
they don't have Upper east side money? They're. Yeah, yeah.
Leif (15:42):
They're California rich.
Steve (15:44):
Yeah. Yeah. From, what. What industry made
them rich again?
Leif (15:47):
Real estate. Oh, how about that?
Lily comes to the gallery to chide Rufus for not telling her
about Bex. Lily comes up with the idea that
they should exchange lists at dinner. Rufus
rightfully points out that this has disaster written all
over it.
Steve (16:05):
Yeah, grow up. Like, nobody.
Nobody.
Leif (16:09):
You're in your 40s.
Steve (16:10):
You're in. Yeah. You're in your. Yeah,
it's so. It's such a dumb
plot line. Like,
I'm sure that this shit gets discussed. I know Robin
and I, like, talked about
this kind of thing, but, like, it's not
a thing that we.
(16:30):
That impacted us.
Leif (16:32):
So I think in, Lily's case, she was just
upset that someone that worked for
her slept with her boyfriend.
Steve (16:39):
Right. And I never got the impression that it was
a secret Rufus kept. I felt like it was,
Leif (16:45):
Oh, yeah, yeah, we went on a couple dates.
Steve (16:47):
Yeah, we went on a couple dates. And, yeah, I
mean, we. We banged one out. So,
like. Yeah, like, I've banged people. Like,
no one you'll see. No one you'll see. On mtv.
Leif (16:59):
Nate arrives with Dan and Ves at the Vanderbilt
Compound by limo. However, the titular
grandfather one ups the limo by arriving via
helicopter trip, reveals that the grandfather
didn't actually ask for Nate to come.
Steve (17:13):
Yeah, I get Nate's reaction to be
like, oh, well, fuck this. And this was
also where I feel like where Vanessa and
Dan would be more like,
hey, man. Yeah, that's kind of fucked up, but it's
just a constant, like, no go toward your fa.
Like, I just felt like it was
(17:33):
pushing Nate. And maybe it's because I'm a guy that people keep
telling me to talk.
Leif (17:37):
To my dad, but, like, I
mean, but I totally. What? You're already
there. It would be childish to get up and leave
now. At least just talk to him, see what happens.
Steve (17:48):
Yeah, I get it. I
just kind of felt Vanessa was
very pushy for something that I, think that
maybe in the back of my head, the whole time I was thinking,
vanessa, this is not gonna work out for you
in the long run. Like, I felt like it was
against Vanessa's best interest.
Leif (18:09):
Yeah. it was pushy, but I think sometimes people need
that.
Steve (18:13):
That's fair. That's fair.
Leif (18:15):
I think Nate needed it here, and.
Steve (18:18):
And I was not mad. Oh, well, I guess
we're not quite there yet.
Leif (18:22):
And this is also the start of, Dan being
just witty all episode.
Steve (18:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Leif (18:30):
Is that a medevac?
Steve (18:31):
Yeah.
Leif (18:33):
Must be close to a hospital.
Steve (18:35):
You told me it was a mansion, not a country
club.
Leif (18:39):
And I feel like Penn was just having fun and improving this
whole episode.
Steve (18:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there's also the
line about when he walks in and
starts talking about universal healthcare. And
what topics do you think I should talk about?
Leif (18:56):
The grandfather is at first surprised to see Nate.
However, he quickly embraces Nate to the applause of the
gathered family.
Steve (19:04):
Yeah, I thought that was a
sweet moment.
Leif (19:08):
Again, Dan's just, like, looking at. Why is everyone clapping?
Steve (19:14):
I think Dan was probably my favorite
in a lot of ways in this episode. I think that he.
Yeah.
Leif (19:21):
Looks like V. Is leading a lost lamb back to the
flock. And C. Is coming to be
sheepishly bearing gifts. Chuck arrives at
Blair's to find her lounging in negligee.
Carter nonchalantly walks up and kisses
Blair. Chuck is totally rattled.
Carter pushes Chuck further by revealing to Blair
that Chuck had been pursuing a hooker while
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Blair's life went up in flames.
Steve (19:46):
Fucking got him.
Leif (19:48):
Got him.
Steve (19:51):
Yeah.
Leif (19:51):
And I will give Ed, Westwick, some props for the facial
acting. He did really well.
Steve (19:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And didn't lose his accent when he
came out of Batman voice. So,
like, good job, Ed. Yeah.
Leif (20:06):
And then before we go to commercial, we get another Gossip Girl
narration. We hear Carter Basin
dealt Chuck another losing hand. But rest assured,
Upper East Siders, Chuck always has a card up
his sleeve. Act two
begins. The grandfather is giving Nate, Dan,
and Vanessa a tour of the mansion. After the grandfather
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tells Nate he is proud of him for how he handled the situation with his
father, Trip comes in and lets everyone know it's time
for some quote unquote touch
football.
Steve (20:35):
I had no problems with the
grandfather in this. I don't think
the grandfather did anything. He
welcomed his grandson back and then
tells him how proud he is. And he says the thing about,
I was worried that you had your mom's looks and your dad's
brains, but I'm really proud of you for handling
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that the way you did. That the grandfather
was not just bailing them out.
And I know Nate felt like he
was abandoned and
destitute, but he was abandoned and
destitute in a mansion
in the Hamptons. So
I feel like there's a little bit of
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perspective for Nate of, we didn't
abandon you. Your mom
married a fucking idiot, so she has
to live in this place because we're not bailing the idiot
out. And I thought, I think
that's fair. You know,
nobody went hungry, nobody
starved. And to be
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like, I'm really proud of how you
handled that, I would be too. So
I have at this point, I.
Leif (21:47):
Also don't think they could have bailed their
house out, because that was frozen by. The assets were
frozen.
Steve (21:53):
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Leif (21:55):
There's nothing they could really do about that.
Steve (21:56):
Yeah.
Leif (21:57):
But they did give him a fricking mansion in the Hamptons.
Steve (22:00):
Yeah. Yeah. They abandoned them.
With only a mansion that's
probably fully staffed
in the Hampton.
Leif (22:11):
Blair and Serena are shopping. Blair is
explaining her new not planned plan and the
Carter situation. Serena is scandalized when
Blair walks out of the store without paying.
Steve (22:22):
Yeah, okay, Blair.
Okay.
Leif (22:26):
I like the coat though.
Steve (22:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Leif (22:28):
Serena is so shocked, she calls Chuck to discuss
the Carter and Blair relationship.
Steve (22:33):
Yep. And they, they, they
all have history with Carter, which we already know.
So that, that'll be a fun team up.
Leif (22:42):
Serena, arrives home to find Lily making her
list. In addition to Bart and Trent Reznor,
the list also contains slash.
Serena advises to make an assessment of
Rufus list before revealing her whole list.
Steve (22:57):
Serena was great here. The
digs.
Leif (23:00):
She was definitely funny. But Lily, why are you
taking relationship advice from a teenager?
Steve (23:06):
Yeah, yeah. Why? Yes, because
it's a teenage plotline. Like it's
not a good adult
relationship line. I
did love Serena's wittiness.
Her one liners were
absolutely hilarious.
Leif (23:25):
The techno pop beats of MGMT
Drop as we see Nate and Dan roughing up on the
football field. Very reminiscent of the football
scene from Wedding Crashers when a lot of people were first
introduced to Bradley Cooper.
Steve (23:38):
Yep. I actually have Wedding Crashers written down
here because that was exactly what I thought. Which
came first?
Leif (23:44):
I'm pretty sure Wedding Crashers. That was like
2001 or 2002, Bradley
Cooper's debut. It, wasn't his debut, but it was his
first, like, famous role.
Steve (23:55):
Okay. Wow. Okay.
because I love that's. I love that movie. That's one of those when it.
When it's on and I'm not doing anything else, that
it just stays on and I watch it. But also, I feel like
in this scene, be is starting to
realize what it means to push
Nate back to the family.
Leif (24:15):
Yes. Because, as we see on a terrace overlooking the
action, Vanessa and Trip's fiance Maureen have
a conversation about joining the Vanderbilt family
and what that means.
Steve (24:26):
Yeah. Which you're laying on this 18 year
old, and it
is that sense of.
Leif (24:33):
Well, I don't think she's much older.
Steve (24:35):
Yeah, no, no, I. I mean, I. I. I gathered that.
She was probably, like, 22.
Leif (24:40):
Yeah. I would figure that he Their law school
age.
Steve (24:43):
Yeah.
Leif (24:44):
Aaron Tripp.
Steve (24:45):
Yeah. Yeah. So I would figure around 22,
23. I. I think it's more with
Vanessa. I forget the
fiance's name, but she lays out for Vanessa why
it's good for her, though, too. Yeah,
like. Like all of your advocacy
and all of your. We,
love that. Yeah, we love that for
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Nate and for his future
wife. So, yes, you are
now welcome into this
week. I think the Vanessa
realizes it's a. We can benefit from you
being with Nate, and
I think that that is part of what gets
her head turning. But really,
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Vanessa, she's right.
You do have access to make all of these things that
you want to do come true if you
just postpone a trip.
Leif (25:43):
But, I mean, at 17, 18, that's
tough.
Steve (25:46):
Yeah, it is. It is.
Leif (25:49):
There's that patience. Then Carter arrives at the
Vander Woodsen penthouse. Chuck stares in wonder while
Serena blackmails Carter into leaving town based on something
that happened in Santorini.
Steve (26:00):
Yeah, I do love that Serena just
kind of owns him. It's also just one
of those. Well, this. It was sort of
like Georgina Sparks getting rid of her that
it was halfway through an episode. Well,
here's a, vague reason that you should get out of here.
Leif (26:20):
At least it is something that they did mention before.
Steve (26:22):
Yeah. Yeah, it did come back. And I did.
I did like that. I do like
Serena having something on Carter. I also
like Carter. Sort of thinks that he has something on
Serena. But Serena kind of doesn't care
about a lot of her past anymore now
that the guy that she didn't kill by handing him
cocaine is all out in the open.
Leif (26:45):
Blair knocks on a strange door and enters
as we go to commercial break with a Gossip Girl Narration
spotted Bea taking one small step
for new Blair. One giant step towards a
strange townhouse. Enter at your own risk,
Bea.
Steve (27:01):
So how many in the forums thought that she was
walking into the gentleman's
club that Chuck had
been at the previous two
weeks?
Leif (27:13):
Didn't see any match in that, but there
was. It's now live reaction thread. So it's.
Steve (27:18):
Yeah, but is that. I felt like that's. They wanted
us to think. That's what I mean.
That's what I thought. I felt like that it was,
Leif (27:27):
I just kind of thought she was going to some party.
Steve (27:29):
That's fair.
Leif (27:31):
Back from commercial, Rufus and Lily exchange
lists after dinner. Rufus's list is rather
short, so Lily only gives one of the two pages she
wrote. Even the shortened list gives Rufus pause.
Steve (27:42):
This is on an index card.
Leif (27:47):
Dan limps back to the loft with Vanessa in
tow. Jenny and Dan tag team Vanessa into
explaining the conversation with Maureen and how Vanessa is
worried that the grandfather is going to control too much
of their lives.
Steve (28:00):
And she's maybe valid in
her concern. However,
Nate doesn't know who he is, and Nate has
always been a puppy dog chasing after the new
thing, and some structure could
do him good. So if
grandfather is going to
help him find a path, I'm not,
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I'm not angry about that. I
feel like everything in this
is coming up Nate right now, except
for Vanessa not wanting that for him.
Leif (28:34):
I know you're a Nate stab, but this is just more of Nate
being a flip floppy hypocrite because all first
season he was telling, everyone how much he didn't want his family to
control what he's doing.
Steve (28:43):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, you're right.
I feel like he didn't want his
dad controlling what he was doing.
You know, I feel like a lot of that
was. But I'm not disagreeing with
you either. Nate always does this. Nate always goes back
and forth, and Nate always chases the big shiny thing that
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is dangling in front of him. I do. I am a
Nate, Stan. I do love Nate. I feel like Nate
always tries to do the
right thing. I think he usually tries
to do the right thing, but when women get
involved, he loses. He
gets a little gray area and goes puppy dog
chasing.
Leif (29:25):
Chuck and Serena are begging De Roda to reveal where
Blair is so they can help her. When Chuck offers money,
Dorota curses at him in Polish.
Steve (29:33):
Dorota is not for sale,
Mr. Chuck.
Leif (29:38):
And, yeah, I did actually look up the translation.
basically translated to, are you crazy, you
little shit? I work for Ms. Blair, not for you. What do you think
you can buy me?
Steve (29:50):
That's fantastic. but, yeah.
Dorota not for sale.
Leif (29:54):
I love that.
Steve (29:56):
And I also love
when Dorota was like. And she said if
Mr. Chuck comes by to let him know that Carter
Basin is much more.
Much more attentive to a woman's needs.
Leif (30:14):
Over dinner, Nate is reassuring Vanessa that nothing
is going to change. Vanessa tells Nate that
she. That he should go meet Trip and the grandfather.
They have all summer to eat pierogies.
Steve (30:25):
Yeah. She sends him out to go
do. To go see the grandfather and
talk to him about these things. Nate
was all happy to sit here and hang out with you.
You sent him back with his family,
so you. You set
this all in motion. Vanessa
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again, she was.
Leif (30:48):
She thought she was trying to do the right thing.
Steve (30:49):
Yeah, I. I feel like maybe she did do the right
thing. It's just not the right thing for Vanessa.
Leif (30:55):
I mean, she could have just gone along with it and
gotten everything she wanted as well.
Steve (31:00):
I mean, yeah.
Leif (31:02):
Chuck and Serena arrive at the strange townhouse
expecting some type of bacchana, but instead
find Blair begging for admittance into Sarah
Lawrence. However, knowing about the hazing of
Ms. Carr, the dean turns her down.
Steve (31:16):
Blair facing real
consequences that are
long term and impactful
is probably pretty jarring
to her. She's obviously had
other things that had consequences.
Sleeping with Chuck and Nate, there were
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consequences, but they blew over.
Leif (31:39):
They were social consequences.
Steve (31:40):
They were social consequences that blew over
her.
Leif (31:43):
This is a life consequence.
Steve (31:45):
Right. Her eating disorder had consequences,
and she struggles with it, but she
still has the help to
work through it. But this is.
You're not getting into college right
now. Like, right now. Like, nobody wants
to take you. You're gonna have to go to Upper
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east side community college.
Leif (32:07):
again, so this is one of the scenes I didn't really like the writing
on, because why did he even agree
to the meeting?
Steve (32:15):
Yeah, yeah, I agreed to meet with you because
I'm doing the middle of.
Leif (32:19):
Night first so I can turn you down.
Steve (32:21):
Yeah, yeah. So I can see the
tears in your eyes
myself.
Leif (32:28):
Also, not that he doesn't deserve it, but Roman Polanski
catching a stray from Chuck at the beginning.
But, yeah, that was, like, 30 at the time of this
air. That was already over 30 years old.
Joke.
Steve (32:41):
Yeah. Yeah. and again, there's a lot
of times that you see not only in Gossip Girl,
but just when you get those writers who are referencing things
that are way outdated, and
it's like, people have Already there are new references you can
make to these things. You don't need to keep making those old
references. I see it in Buffy a lot
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that like, even though Buffy is from 30
years ago, they're making references
from the the episode the Zeppo
we just watched. No
one who wasn't like a film buff
knew. Yeah, you had to be know the Marx
Brothers to know the, the Zeppo.
Leif (33:21):
Although don't they explain it in the episode?
Steve (33:23):
She just says you're the Zeppo. She just,
she. She just makes the reference. She doesn't explain who
Zeppo is.
Leif (33:30):
Chuck and Serena follow Blair outside, glad
that she is still fighting. However, Blair is now more
distraught than ever.
Steve (33:37):
Yeah, she's cracking.
Leif (33:40):
And we go to the act break with another Gossip
Girl monologue. Poor Bea
couldn't spin this one in her favor. Looks like now
she's spinning out. We move
into Act 3. Serena and Chuck
find Blair at the Vanderbilt reception.
Blair plans on blowing up her reputation and pissing
off as many people as possible. She starts by
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dropping the Dan and Ms. Carr sex bomb on
Serena.
Steve (34:06):
Yeah, that. That was rude.
It was rude, but it was going to come out
eventually. And it's funny. We talked last week about who
will she tell? And I love that when she
told it, it was like, oh, I'm in my fuck it's
phase. So here's some information.
I actually love how all of that. I love the
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fallout from this too.
Leif (34:31):
Dan and Vanessa pass through security. Dan
is being snarky about the Vanderbilts wealth and politics.
The grandfather swoops in to pull Nate away for
a bit. Dan wonders if the Humphreys have a
family crest.
Steve (34:44):
I would really like to reach out
to listeners to really know what they
believe the Humphrey
family crest would look like. I would
love for someone to design for us the
Humphrey family crest and send
that to us. I think that is
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on the front.
Leif (35:07):
Of my mind as Humphrey. Is that a Scottish name?
Steve (35:10):
Humphrey, I think. Is it British or
Scottish? It might be Scottish.
Leif (35:15):
Scottish. They probably do have a family grass somewhere.
Steve (35:17):
Yeah, yeah.
Unless Humphrey is Scottish for a
profession.
Leif (35:26):
Rufus, the big snooper, goes into Lily's
purse looking for cash, but finds the other half
of Lily's list.
Steve (35:33):
Is she okay with you going into her purse? Like,
is this, Is this an acceptable thing?
Thing? Have you had that conversation?
I. I can go into Robin's purse whenever I
want to. Because we have that established
that, you know. Oh yeah, it's in my purse. Go ahead. And
I still don't do it unless she
specifically says, it's in my
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purse, you know, but if I'm, like, looking for something around the
house, if I look in her purse and I'm like, oh, I checked your purse,
she would say, okay, no big deal. But I still
don't do that without letting her know first.
Leif (36:06):
Yeah. I mean, there's usually stuff in women's purses that I don't want to
see.
Steve (36:09):
Yeah, yeah. I mean,
yeah. Like pictures of her kids.
Leif (36:16):
Lily doesn't have pictures of her kids.
Steve (36:17):
No, Lily wouldn't have.
Leif (36:19):
No, Lily wouldn't have pictures of her kids.
Back at the reception, a drunken trip tells
Vanessa that Nate has an internship at the mayor's
office and can no longer go on the backpacking
vacation.
Steve (36:32):
And this is where I'm feeling like
Vanessa is getting selfish. And
where it comes out that. Yeah, yeah,
that she. That. Because
I get. She probably doesn't want to go
do this Europe trip alone.
But it also kind of reinforces the.
(36:53):
It's not going to happen without Nate.
So, again, I feel like Nate is going to be
the one really financing this trip. But
also, here's something that he is suddenly
interested in.
Leif (37:07):
Do you have anything else on that?
Steve (37:10):
I'll just close with. I feel like
Vanessa is being selfish now.
Leif (37:15):
I don't know if you caught it, but as Vanessa walks
away, there was a lingering shot on
trip, like, doing the whole Broadway thing, staring
at the camera with an expression of like, my
plan is going exactly as I thought. So was there
another deleted scene here? Was it. Was there a scheme going on
here that we didn't find out about?
Steve (37:34):
Yeah, I know what you're talking about,
and I kind of dismissed it because,
of that. Because it didn't seem like anything was really coming
through to a whole plan
on his part. I don't feel like it was well
executed if that was the intention.
I also kind of feel like it could have just been.
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Now that you're mentioning the Broadway thing, we
know how much Broadway actors struggle
with the, with the fourth wall.
Leif (38:03):
Ryan from the OC Nate confesses
that he is strongly considering the internship because
it is an amazing opportunity. Nate leaves
Vanessa, who looks to be on the verge of tears.
Steve (38:15):
Vanessa, you wanted him to reconnect with his family,
and this is what reconnecting with a rich and
powerful family looks like.
I think that I feel like a lot of this should
have been predictable. And maybe
not losing my summer of fun
predictable, but
getting wrapped up in the family politics
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predictable. Like, that is what is going to
happen. And maybe there's that part
in Nate who knew that's what was going to
happen that was also keeping him from wanting
to come back. But then once the path
is laid out and it's like, here's the super
easy thing for you to do. Just go work for the mayor
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and do whatever they tell you to do.
Leif (39:00):
Yeah.
Steve (39:00):
And because if Nate's good at anything, it's doing what he's told to
do.
Leif (39:04):
Yeah. I mean, I guess she just didn't expect them to kind of
control what he's doing.
Steve (39:08):
Yeah, I guess I just. What did
you expect?
Leif (39:12):
That they would have family holidays and.
Steve (39:15):
Yeah.
Leif (39:15):
Play football.
Steve (39:16):
Yeah.
Leif (39:18):
Because that's what they talked about.
Steve (39:20):
Yeah. But Vanessa, you see all of this
all the time. Like, you see these people that you
see it happen to. So I'm, not necessarily
trying to blame Vanessa, but I blame Vanessa.
Leif (39:34):
Blair continues to drop scandal bombs on
unsuspecting society types, but is pulled away by
Chuck. Once alone, Blair tries to seduce
Chuck, but he doesn't take the bait.
Steve (39:44):
First of all, blowing up all those people's business was
fucking great. I'm not mad at
that one bit.
Leif (39:53):
Third marriage, DUI. was it five
DUIs? Five DUIs? how do you get five DUIs? I guess
be rich.
Steve (40:00):
Yeah, five DUIs. but you drink
so much to deal with the fact that your
husband made all of his money in the porn industry.
Leif (40:08):
Big fan of your sights.
Steve (40:10):
Big fan of your sites.
I did want to add one thing. When Blair
took Chuck. When Chuck took Blair into the
other room, Chuck had very strong
Faith vibes. Very strong. Like,
a lot. If Elijah Dushku was a better actor,
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it was very reminiscent of
that Faith Xander scene. I could say it's also in the
Zeppo when. When she
basically, like, like,
forces herself on Xander in a
very. Xander's very happy, willing, and
accepting of this. But when she really forces
himself on her, I found a big parallel
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there in how that went
down, but I didn't really know. I. I had
this, like, man, I wish Elijah Dushku was a
better actor because Faith would have been so much cooler.
Leif (41:03):
Hell, Buffy Pants let you hear that.
Steve (41:06):
I know, I know. I like Elijah
Dushku as Fate because she's Faith, and I
liked her in Dollhouse because that's what she did.
But she's mid. She's
mediocre. Yeah, come at me. Come at
me. She might be one of the better actors on the
show,
but she's mid.
Leif (41:27):
We go to the commercial with another Gossip Girl
narration. The danger with
Calling someone's bluff is that even if you win,
you risk them walking away from the table for
good. And who wants to play with themselves?
Nate finds Blaire sitting alone in an unheated
room and offers his coat. They reminisce about the past.
(41:48):
And I think Blair sort of remembers why she was in
love with Nate Archibald.
Steve (41:53):
oh, but also, this could be a good time for
this. I was very much stanning the Nate
Vanessa thing. I feel like this is a good time for
that shakeup and for this Blair Nate
shakeup when, when. When he came out and saw
her there and gave her the coat. I feel like this
was one of the better written scenes. I
actually like the, the back and forth and the,
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You like watching the same movies over and over. Do you
remember what you told me? I like, know how things turn out. I like
the. How conversational it was.
Leif (42:23):
I like, I like the scene. I do
not like where it's going. It's more of Nate
going back into that, putting himself back into that corner he was in
the first season with his family controlling him. he's stuck in a
relationship with Blair and it was pretty clear
that Blair just wants to use him.
Steve (42:40):
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
I felt like the shake up
is what I liked about it. Vanessa, I think Vanessa just
pissed me off. This episode.
Leif (42:50):
Serena finds Dan and gives him a nice smack
for about two seconds. Dan tries to defend himself, but
quickly apologizes for his actions. The scene ends
with the pair laughing about the whole thing.
Steve (43:01):
Dan's defenses
that he had were.
I felt like he really put thought into
that prior to this and was
like, look, she wasn't my teacher. but,
Serena being like, it was like 20ft away from where I
was standing. Okay, I'll give you
that.
Leif (43:21):
It was a funny scene. But again, I don't like
that. They're basically equating Dan sleeping with
a teacher being just as bad as a teacher sleeping with a
student.
Steve (43:31):
No, no, absolutely. I.
Leif (43:33):
What? What is that?
Steve (43:34):
Yes.
Leif (43:35):
yeah, last time they were, oh, dad's going to get
expelled. And it's like, what?
Steve (43:42):
And it is that high fiving the guys
and shaming the women that they sleep
with. Kind of in that same vein of
now, oh, you're the guy who went and did
this. But it's like that teacher
was at work
and in a closet with a kid
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she was told to stay away from because
of the rumors of them fucking.
Leif (44:10):
Lily confronts Rufus about his passive aggressive
attitude. Rufus reels, reveals he found the other
half of the list. The pair argue. Yes.
H. Everyone sucks here.
Steve (44:20):
Yeah. I, My only thing is that I do love when
Lily has no time for Rufus's
bullshit. I love. I love her
reactions when Rufus says. Well, it wouldn't
be the whole. The whole honesty or whatever. When
Lily's like, oh, Jesus Christ. When she has
that moment. I love, I love that she
just never has time for Rufus's passive aggressive
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bullshit.
Leif (44:43):
I do like that every scene has Lily kind
of lounging out because they're hiding her. Kelly's
pregnancy.
Steve (44:49):
Yes. It's funny because I didn't
notice it in that first episode. In the first
episode where you mentioned it in the one with
Jack and
now it is so
obvious. The big coat and then walking and
standing right behind the counter when she talked to Rufus.
In the one scene, a lot of counters, a lot
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of neck up and a lot of. The
one. The one that I was really impressive
was. It's the later scene
with her when she's really lounging
and it looks like
they have made a
costume. That is a
pillow that. So when she's
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lounging on it, it's part. It
looks. I'm pretty sure that the pillow is
actually part of her dress and that
she's sitting straight up and down.
But they make it look like a lean.
With the costuming. I'm. That was
my. How I saw that outfit.
Leif (45:54):
Vanessa is apologizing to Nate for earlier when
they are interrupted by an announcement from the grandfather about
Nate's internship.
Call your travel agent, kitties. Looks like Nate
Archbold traded in a summer of love for a one
way ticket to his legacy.
Steve (46:12):
This is the point where I felt like Vanessa has spent this
episode trying to remind me how much she sucks.
I just. I was annoyed with you.
Leif (46:19):
I didn't get that at all.
Steve (46:21):
Yeah, I was really annoyed.
Leif (46:22):
I was fine with Vanessa. This episode we move
into the epilogue. Serena comes home and
finds Chuck drinking alone. She urges him
to keep fighting for Blair and he knows what to
say.
Steve (46:35):
Ah, vulnerable. Chuck.
Leif (46:38):
Back in Brooklyn, Vanessa discusses her relationship
status with Dan and Jenny. Dan and Jenny both
advise giving Nate space, but that it will work out
in the end.
Steve (46:48):
I've dealt with Upper east side grandparents.
Leif (46:50):
Before, which he has.
Steve (46:53):
Yes. Also, this was the. So
I mentioned it at the top of the. Of the
show that I thought there was something up with
Dan and Vanessa. And I felt like it was reinforced here
with them sitting there, him
kind of consoling her. I
see.
Leif (47:11):
I just got big sibling vibes from all three of
them.
Steve (47:14):
I get. I get something.
Obviously there's. There's a shake
up with Vanessa happening, so,
see?
Leif (47:24):
We'll see. Rufus returns to the penthouse and
apologizes to Lily. And the final Gossip Girl
narration begins.
Springtime. A season for rebirth and new
beginnings. For some, it's a chance to turn over a
new leaf. Looks like
their, issues are resolved for now.
Steve (47:43):
Yeah.
Leif (47:44):
Chuck arrives at the Blair's house, but is once again
turned away by Doroda. As Dorota goes back
upstairs, Chuck sees something that disturbs him.
Steve (47:53):
Oh, that. I'm sorry. That previous scene is the one where
she had that outfit that I was talking about.
When Dorota totally cockblocked Chuck,
I was like, Nate is up there. And
Robin's like, no, Nate is at his grandfather's. Why
would Nate be at the wall? Nate's not there. I'm like, nate is
in that room with Blair right now.
Leif (48:12):
We switch to the bedroom where Nate is saying goodbye to
Blair after bringing her home. Blair asked
Nate to stay, and I was like,
boom.
Steve (48:23):
ITV so hard.
Leif (48:25):
For others, it's the surprise of seeing something
bloom. We shift back to Chuck,
and it is revealed that he saw Nate's coat.
J. Miller Tobin ends the episode almost exactly
the same way they ended Poison Ivy with a
dramatic multi stage pull out.
Steve (48:42):
Yep.
Leif (48:43):
Exact same shot.
Steve (48:44):
Yeah. Oh, wow.
Leif (48:47):
It's Blair and Serena. Like, they do that. Like. Yeah, they pull
out. It stops. Pull outs again. And then one more time.
Yeah, they do the same exact thing here. And
we end the episode with.
But yours truly, it's a reminder that
on the Upper east side, everything old can be
new again. XOXO
(49:07):
Gossip Girl Episode done.
Predictions going forward.
Steve (49:13):
Dan and Vanessa. Dan and Vanessa is my
biggest prediction. I think that Blair and Nate
are not going to last, but I think that they're going
to. I think that they're going to have an awkward
the morning after because I think Nate right now
is. Is kind of in this. Oh,
maybe I do want everything that I said I didn't
(49:33):
want last. Last season. And, I.
I don't deny that Nate's a big flip flopper. I just,
I. I just think that's Nate.
Leif (49:40):
Well, what. What big event have we not got to.
That's traditional for the end of senior year, Senior
trip?
Steve (49:47):
Prom. We got prom coming up.
Okay, we've got prom. We've
got.
Leif (49:53):
I don't see Chuck as a prom guy.
Steve (49:55):
No, but Nate's definitely a prom. Nate is a
prom guy for sure.
Yep.
Leif (50:02):
And you know, you say Dan and Vanessa, but
he's gonna go with Serene.
Steve (50:06):
He,
Leif (50:07):
Vanessa has had sparks with someone else this season.
Steve (50:10):
Vanessa has had sparks with someone other
than Dan and other than Nate.
No,
no, no. Because, she's not going.
No.
Leif (50:24):
Well, maybe I'd rather that than
the Dan.
Steve (50:28):
Yep. Facts.
Leif (50:30):
That is it for our episode. Let's get into some
segments. We jump into the Wayback Machine
to visit the Television without pity forums from
2009. Hello there,
Peabody here. And this is the Wayback Machine
for traveling through time.
Steve (50:46):
And this is my boy, Sherman. Speak,
Sherman. Hello.
Leif (50:50):
Good boy. They were definitely glad
Ms. Carr and the Eyes Wide Shut storylines are over.
Very bored of Rufus and Lily. They with the
will they or won't they? People watch for the teens, not the
parents.
Steve (51:02):
Yeah, that whole storyline
about them, their role in
this show now should be more
about their relationship with
their kids than their relationship with
each other. They're together. Yeah, we're, we're, we're good with
this. Don't give them
teenage drama to shake
(51:25):
up their thing. Just let them fucking be.
Leif (51:28):
Surprising praise for Dan's witty
pretentiousness. Normally they don't like Dan being pretentious.
Steve (51:33):
Yeah, but it was, but he was funny. He
was.
Leif (51:37):
And again, I think it was just improv.
Steve (51:39):
Yeah, yeah, that, that, that
scans.
Leif (51:42):
Where's Eric?
Steve (51:44):
I mean, where is Eric half the time?
Leif (51:47):
Not a lot of sympathy for Chuck at this point.
Steve (51:51):
Chuck did go chasing down a
hooker while. While his love
of his life apparently was
spiraling. So I don't really. And
I very seldom have any sympathy for
Chuck.
Leif (52:05):
And then finally, Nair are cute, but
can't match the chemistry of chair. Yeah, the
sounds cute, but they just don't really have much chemistry.
Steve (52:13):
Yeah, that's true too.
Leif (52:17):
Let's go ahead and move it to some episode grades. What do
you got, Steve?
Steve (52:22):
I went C plus on this one. I thought
it was an okay
episode. I hated the Rufus and
Lily storyline. I
thought the Blair stuff was okay. I didn't think it
was well written like we had talked about. I thought there was a
few moments where I was like, oh, I think that this was
(52:43):
a nice bit of dialogue.
But for the most part I didn't think it was very well written.
so yeah, I went C. I.
Leif (52:51):
Didn'T go quite that low. I thought the
directing was very good in this episode. The acting was
good. The writing was hit or miss in a couple
scenes. But overall I liked it. So I give it a
B.
Steve (53:03):
Fair.
Leif (53:05):
Moving over to Stockwatch, who you got going up?
Steve (53:08):
I have Nate Going up. Nate
has all these things. He's going to be interning
for the mayor. I mean, good job, Nate. I have grandfather
going up. He got his grandson back. And
grandfather, who is only ever referred to as
grandfather, is,
also has his
family back in line going the way he
(53:30):
wants it to. And I'm going to give Dan an up because
Dan was fun this episode. I don't think
he really went anywhere, but he was witty and
fun, so I'm going to give him the up.
Leif (53:41):
This is one. Is a tough one for me. I did consider
Dan because he was Woody, but then he also got slapped, so I
kept him m at neutral.
Steve (53:48):
Yeah, that's fair, too.
Leif (53:49):
So the only two I had going up were Dorota because she
was loyal and awesome, as usual.
Steve (53:54):
I want to add Dorota to mine. Yes.
Leif (53:57):
And then the grandfather for the same reason as you said. He got
everything he wanted.
Steve (54:00):
Yeah. Yeah.
Leif (54:02):
Who do you have going down?
Steve (54:03):
Blair for spiraling. I have Vanessa
going down for setting all of that up
and only to lose everything she
wanted. And then I have Carter going down
for getting one up by Serena.
Leif (54:17):
And those are my downs for me. I had Blair because.
Yeah, she continues to spiral. Chuck
is. He got dissed by Carter
and didn't really do much. also losing out
to Nate. It looks like Carter because he got kicked out
of town. Vanessa for losing Nate.
Nate for just being a dumbass and getting led by his
family and being kind of a slut.
(54:42):
Vanessa wasn't even totally sure they broke up, and he's already hooking up with
Blair.
Steve (54:45):
Yeah. Yeah.
Leif (54:47):
And then Lily, because she brought that whole mess on
herself.
Steve (54:50):
Oh, well, that's fair, too. I do want to add Chuck to
mine because I kind of had him at neutral,
but now. Yeah, he
fucking.
Leif (54:59):
He got punked by Carter and.
Steve (55:01):
Yeah. And by Nate.
Yeah.
Leif (55:02):
Yeah.
Steve (55:04):
But here's the best outfits from the.
Last episode we've seen.
Leif (55:12):
Best outfit. Who do you got?
Steve (55:13):
Chuck's suit. That with the pink collar
and. Yeah, I dug that.
Leif (55:19):
For me, it was, I'm. I'm gonna have to just change
this to the best Blair Waldorf outfit award, because
Blair's, a liche bandage dress was
phenomenal.
Steve (55:28):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that. Is that the blue
one or the.
Leif (55:33):
Blue and white one? The one that she's trying to seduce Chuck in.
Steve (55:35):
Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah. That I, That was on my
list, and I was like, I'm gonna go with Chuck suit.
But I was. I was looking at that, too.
Leif (55:44):
You Got anything to plug this week?
Steve (55:46):
At this moment, I believe this
Wednesday I will be. It's either this Wednesday
or next Wednesday. I will be at Dawson
street for the open mic. I will be the featured
act. So come on out to the open mic, come play some
music and I'll be the featured act.
Leif (56:03):
For me, by now my episode of Farm to
Fable should be released. That's Farm, the
Fable podcast. Recapping,
Smallville. I am on episode
seven of season eight. So check that
out. And then if you want to follow
me on social media you can find me on Instagram and
bluesky hotcapicola H
(56:26):
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(56:46):
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Steve (56:54):
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if you could tell a friend what you are
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(57:35):
Girl fans.
Leif (57:36):
And we will be back next week to Talk about Season
2 Episode 20, Remains of
the J. The Netflix episode
description reads serena throws Jenny a
partier, for her 16th birthday. But things get out
of control when Poppy Lifton turns the small
gathering into a huge social
event.
Steve (57:56):
Oh Jesus Christ. Poppy.
Leif (57:59):
But glad we got Jenny back in the main storyline.
Steve (58:02):
Poppy is Serena's friend. Yeah. Okay. I was
thinking, I was thinking Agnes.
Leif (58:08):
Huh?
Steve (58:08):
Yeah. Yeah. It's nice to have Jenny back in the
spotlight. In the spotlight. We've been missing her.
Leif (58:14):
Until next time. You know you love us.
Steve (58:17):
Xoxo.
Every time you walk away, run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away m you take a
piece of me with you there
(58:38):
oh, it seems I'm walking right to
your door
my heart's still resting looking for
something more
Are you ever gonna see everything you mean to
me? I'm trying really hard to believe
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
(58:59):
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Never feels right when I'm out here on my
own
(59:22):
I left last night and it feels like
way too long
are you ever gonna see everything you mean
to me I'm trying really hard to believe
every time you walk away run away and take a
piece of meat with you there
Every time you walk away run away you take a
(59:44):
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Come back to me
smile and you'll make my life
complete
(01:00:07):
every time you walk away run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
(01:00:29):
piece of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away and take a
piece of me you with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there Hm
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there
(01:00:52):
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there.
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