S3E16 - "The Empire Strikes Jack" (featuring Danielle Joy) - Non Judging Breakfast Pod

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Steve (00:00):
Yeah, and apparently Dorota's baby kicks out of
time. And sloppily, because she
kicks like Lars Zolrick from Metallica.

Leif (00:12):
Shots fired.

Steve (00:12):
Shots fired.

Leif (00:21):
Hey, Upper east siders and all you scandal loving listeners out
there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast
podcast where the coffee is strong, the
waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than ever.
My name is Leif, and I'm your seasoned Gossip Girl veteran.

Steve (00:35):
And I'm Steve, the newbie, the greenhorn, the,
uh, I don't know, Leif. We're in season three. What am I
now?

Leif (00:42):
You whore and a half. You just couldn't keep it in your pants,
could you?

Steve (00:46):
Well, Leif, it wasn't me,
because I'm in love with your uncle.

Leif (00:51):
Okay.

Steve (00:54):
So here's the deal, folks. Leaf has been watching
Gossip Girl since it first aired, and I'm diving in for
the first time. And together, we're your dynamic duo,
uh, bringing you all the drama, romance, and
sometimes questionable fashion choices of this
iconic 2007 series.

Leif (01:10):
Bring your magnifying glasses, because each week we're
dissecting every juicy detail of the show one
episode at a time. We'll connect the dots.
I cover those sneaky little Easter eggs, and of course, serve
up some piping hot behind the scenes tea. And expect
some iconic phantom moments too, because what's a deep
dive without a little drama?

Steve (01:29):
And since we are all about inclusivity here at the non
judging breakfast pod, there is always a seat for you at the
non judging breakfast table. So go ahead and grab your
mimosa, a cup of coffee, or roll up something from
Chuck's stash, and let's go ahead and get into this.

Leif (01:45):
Ah. All right, Steve, June is guest month because
we got another guest today. We are here with
actor, producer, and podcast host,
Danielle Joy.

Steve (01:55):
Yay.

Danielle Joy (01:55):
Hi, everyone. Hi. Hi.

Leif (01:58):
Welcome to the podcast.

Steve (01:59):
Yes, welcome to the non judging breakfast table.

Yeah. Thank you for having me.

Steve (02:04):
Absolutely.

Leif (02:06):
And so we do ask this for everyone, but
it's, uh, a little more interesting in your case.
But what is your relationship with Gossip Girl?

Oh, man. So I actually worked on the
show in various capacities, but
you'll be seeing me in this episode.

Steve (02:23):
That's really fun. And we
definitely were spotting for you the
entire time.

Leif (02:31):
Yes, I did admit I went a little Joe
Goldberg on your Instagram and I found the
picture of you from 10 years ago very
appropriate.

You reference with Penn Badgley, by the way.

Leif (02:42):
Yes.
Uh, so we both have our guesses. I don't know if you want to say now or if
you want to wait till we get to the scene to reveal?

Up to you guys.

Steve (02:53):
Why don't we guess now, and then when
you're actually in it, you tell us if we're right or
if we're wrong.

Sure. Yeah, that works. Yeah.

Leif (03:03):
So I was thinking, you are the third
Columbia student.

Steve (03:08):
Yeah, I was thinking. Because I was torn. There
were two people that I kind of was torn on.
And of course, I'm going only from your Instagram as well.
I was torn between. There was one of the models
that I thought could have been you. There
was also the same one that Leif was just
talking to that was in the scene with

(03:29):
Marisa Fumaro and
the other Columbia, uh, student. So
those were my two guesses that we. That I thought I
saw.

Do you want me to confirm or deny?

Leif (03:45):
Uh, let's wait till we get to the scene.

Uh, very good guesses, gentlemen.

Steve (03:52):
Some other scene should be like, you idiots.
I was Lily's stunt double.

Leif (04:01):
A little bookkeeping before we get into the episode. A few
episodes ago, I did, uh, mention I was going to look up one
when Penn Badgley and Blake Lively broke
up. Uh, it was. Yes,
it was, uh, announced by Us Weekly. It was
confirmed in their October of 2010 issue,
which would have been the beginning of season four

(04:21):
shooting.

Steve (04:22):
Yeah. Okay, that tracks.

Leif (04:25):
Now, Greene Lantern fell between March and
August of 2010.

Spoiler alert.

Steve (04:31):
Yeah, that was my next question.

Leif (04:35):
Now, I'm guessing Blake was probably not at all of
that because she was fairly small part in the movie.
So I guess she probably went after Gossip Girl. And
in filming, which I recall was probably
like, April ish was when you guys usually ended.
Does that sound right, Danielle?

Uh, yeah,
Yeah. I remember we started in, like, July,
and we would usually finish. It was like, uh, it was
a good 9 to 10 months of filming for each
season.

Steve (05:03):
Yeah, she had a small role in
the movie, but a big role in Ryan Reynolds heart.

Leif (05:12):
Yes. So we are here to Talk
about Season 3, Episode 16,
the Empire Strikes Jack. The
original air date was, uh, March of, uh,
2010.

Steve (05:25):
I feel like there's a familiarity with this title.
I feel like I recognize this one from somewhere.

Leif (05:33):
It does sound, obviously, Star wars reference,
for those that don't know that have been living under a rock for the
last 40 years.

I do love what they do with all the titles, though. Uh, they always make them
very clever.

Steve (05:45):
Yeah. These great movie references
and always a lot of fun. And Leif
and I are also big Star wars nerds, too,
in different capacities. He shook
his head.

I Always wondered if they came up with the
titles first and then wrote the story around the
title, because it always sort of has to do with what's
happening in the show. Or if they wrote the stories and
then tried to find a title that would work.

Leif (06:14):
Well, sometimes the titles really have nothing.

Steve (06:16):
To do with the show.

Leif (06:19):
I guess probably sometimes they came up with the titles first, but I know
for a fact that they definitely came up with them after the fact
sometimes. Like, for instance,
the episode before the writers strike in
season one was the, uh, name of the
episode was came up with by the crew because the writers
were already on strike.

Steve (06:36):
So they name it Thin Line between Chuck and
Nate. Yes.

Okay.

Steve (06:42):
Yeah. And I was gonna kind of say
the same thing as Leif. I feel like there's kind of
a, uh, mix of those things happening. Cause
sometimes. Sometimes the title feels really
shoehorned, but other times it feels
just absolutely appropriate. Personally,
I like this one.

Leif (07:00):
I thought it was perfect.

Steve (07:01):
It was a perfect title.

Super appropriate. Yeah. And.

Leif (07:06):
Ah, we'll get to it. But I thought the final scene actually did kind of mirror
the final scene of Vampire Strikes Back as well.

Steve (07:11):
Yeah, yeah, I could see that.
Uh, it's the opposite. I am your
father.

Leif (07:18):
No, no, the actual final scene where Luke, uh, and Leia are
on the ship.

Steve (07:23):
Oh, oh, right, yeah.

Blair and Chuck.

Leif (07:25):
Yeah, yeah. This. We got Blair and Chuck declaring war.

Steve (07:28):
Yeah. Ah, yeah.

Leif (07:31):
So this episode was written by Jake
Coburn. He came on as story editor in
season three, and this is his second chance at writing.
Uh, previously did episode six, Enough About
Eve, which was the episode
where Blair and Vanessa were competing for
the speech at the freshman dinner.

Steve (07:50):
Yeah.

Leif (07:51):
And the episodes directed by Joe
Lazarev previously did O Brother,
Wer Bart thou and how to succeed in
Bassness.

Steve (08:02):
Yeah.
I like the director's credits more than the writer's
credits here. I think that
those are some good, uh. Oh, brother. Where
Bart. That was a great episode.

Leif (08:16):
Now, I'm not complaining, but
I did notice more than the
usual background, gratuitous,
nearly nudity in this episode.

Well, they had the models.

Leif (08:29):
Yeah. Anytime you have
models, they don't really show that,
like, the girls just walking around in their
underwear. They don't typically show that on a CW
show. Yeah, I thought it was definitely noticeable to
me.

Definitely one of the more sexy episodes.

Leif (08:46):
Yeah.

Steve (08:47):
There's also this episode. Some of the outdoor
shots, there were some really
cinematic. There's some really cinematic
framing in some of the outdoor shots. In this
especially, there's one with Chuck in front of
the bridge. I don't know if it's the Brooklyn Bridge. Uh, but.

Yeah, the bridge. Yeah, I think it was the Brooklyn Bridge
with his mom. Right.

Steve (09:09):
Well, it's at. Right after. Well, there's that scene.
And then right after she leaves when he's on the phone and the
sun has set and it's just that glow
behind him. The
cinematography in this was, ah,
well done this episode.

Yeah. Yeah.

Steve (09:26):
If only the writing.

Yeah, they. They hardly ever filmed
outside. Um,
I don't want to say that, though. We did film outside a lot.
Um, but, yeah, most of the time
we were on location or on soundstages.
So, uh, yeah, the outdoor shots were always really
nice.

Leif (09:48):
By this time, anytime there was filming outside, there was
large crowds.

Yeah. Yeah.

Steve (09:54):
Okay. Yeah. And so that makes sense also why
those shots stood out so much,
too. That's a really good point.

Leif (10:02):
Steve, why don't you go ahead and read us that Vulture recap?

Steve (10:05):
All right, here we go. I believe in
second chances, Eleanor Waldorf tells the
delinquent Jenny Humphrey when
welcoming her back to work in her
fashion sweatshop. It's an
interesting choice of phrasing. Second chances are
something one needs to believe in, since, like
true love in astrology, some suspension

(10:27):
of common sense is required. After
all, most of the time, the result is
disappointment. If someone doesn't behave
the way you hope they will the first time around,
what are the chances they'll completely change?
In last night's episode, Jenny, despite
ingesting a large quantity of pharmaceuticals,

(10:48):
managed to not disappoint Eleanor. At least
not yet. Chuck Bass, however,
did not fare so well, even though he knew
Elizabeth willingly participated in a cruel and
inhuman plot to rob her estranged son
of his fortune out of love for a man who
was not only a blatant jerk, but a
possessor of the worst hairpiece since

(11:11):
Sam Donaldson. He gave her the
chance to rally to his defense or at
least stick around and mother himself, and was left
red nostril and quivering. Her failure to
come through on this front, more than anything she'd
done so far, should have tipped him off to the
fact that this stubborn loner was

(11:31):
indeed his mother.
Oh, Chuck, here's my
thing about the Vulture report this week. It
doesn't even mention the
Dan Vanessa Trainwreck plot
going on.

Why would you mention it?

Leif (11:53):
It's just completely pointless. It was a nothing story.

Steve (11:56):
It was so bad.

Oh, uh, it was so bad.

Steve (12:01):
So Leif and I have a common saying
about Gossip Girl, and it's that we feel like the
writers. A lot of Times would be great.
Writing teachers that they have these
great tools and great tricks and they
know the. The right way to do twists and
right way to put things out. But then the execution
itself, a lot of the time just kind of

(12:23):
falls flat. That when it actually comes to the
words on paper, there's a lot of times that it's like
you had all of this right here,
and this is what you went with, you know, and
Dan and Vanessa is what you went with
the Rut episode.

And I feel like when this show came out, I was in
my 20s. Right. And it had such a chokehold
on everyone, you know, 18 to 34.
And, you know, fashion was inspired and, like, I
definitely dressed like Blair Waldorf when the show came out.
But, yeah, I, uh, watching it back now,
I'm like, wow, these storylines are

(13:02):
like, I wouldn't put up with this as
a. As a person in the dating world. Like,
why did I think that this was so sexy and
appropriate back then? But
I feel like the actors did such a good job
with the words they were given and the
script they were given to not make

(13:22):
it seem as downer
as it was.

Leif (13:27):
Yes. The actors often carry the show.

Yeah. Yeah. They definitely chose the right people for this
show.

Steve (13:33):
Yes. Yeah, yeah. Uh, I really. I think
Leighton Meester is one of the
best actors to come from this show, too,
I thought.

Yeah. Her and Pen and Ed are my
favorites.

Steve (13:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I also think that Eleanor,
um, Margaret Collins and, um,
uh, Kelly Rutherford, I think, are also
just absolutely spectacular.
They. They can just own any scene they're
in, even when they're not trying to. So.

Yeah, yeah, I heard. I heard. I was listening
to one of your most recent podcasts that just aired, and you
were saying how, like, you didn't want the drama between,
uh, Lily and Rufus. You're like, save the drama for the
kids. Like, I was like, yeah,
yeah, it's a teen show.

Leif (14:27):
We don't care about the parents.

Steve (14:29):
Yeah. Just let them get along
already.

There are enough kids in the ensemble to have
multiple storylines. You don't need the parents in there as
well, but the parents make it interesting, too, especially when you get
to, um, later seasons with Blair's
parents as well. I loved her storylines with her
parents, but, yeah.

Leif (14:47):
Uh, uh, she definitely has the best parental
unit at this point with four know solid
parents.

Steve (14:53):
Yeah. That live in Europe.

Yeah.

Steve (14:58):
That aren't there to ruin her directly the
way they were.

Parents are really there.

Steve (15:04):
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, Lily's there for everyone. That's
not her kids.

Yeah, same with Rufus.

Steve (15:10):
Yeah. Yeah, same with Rufus. Yeah, he's a great dad to
anyone but Jenny.

Yeah. Yeah. Poor Jenny. The
only person nice to her is Nate.

Steve (15:19):
Yeah. Yeah.

I was thinking in this episode when we. Well, when we
get to it later, but, like, I was thinking he would have been a better brother
to her than Dan. Yeah, like, he should have
been her brother.

Leif (15:33):
Now, do you have a favorite and
or least favorite character?

Uh, well, I am very partial
to Blair, so her style
definitely inspired me the most. I'm very, like, preppy.
Um, I actually have my headband.

Leif (15:51):
Nice. I've got it on the right side, too.
Uh, you have it on the right side?

Uh, so, yeah, I bought this back in Gossip Girl days, and I
still have it. I don't really wear headbands that much
anymore, but college.

Steve (16:05):
There's no headbands in college.

Blair has a special place, uh, in my heart and also
because I was her stand in for multiple years,
um, for the last, like, two or three seasons
of the show. So. Yeah,
that's awesome.

Leif (16:21):
Well, let's get into the episode. Act one
begins with a montage of models prepping for a
fashion show, and Gossip Girl opens the episode.
They say clothes make the man, but who makes the
clothes? On the Upper east side, it's Elwin or
Waldorf. Ah. And we hear her new line is to

(16:42):
die for.
So, as we said, we get the, uh, scantily clad
models walking around and a little
montage going on. And then Rufus is walking with
Jenny. We get some exposition about Rufus being
back moved into Lily's. Much to
Jenny's surprise, Rufus has also volunteered her
to assist with Eleanor's latest.

Steve (17:03):
Fashion show because now he suddenly
supports her.

So I. Like I said, I haven't rewatched the
show up until now, and I thought that this
episode was the one where Agnes torches the
dresses. Obviously, that happened beforehand. Right.

Leif (17:20):
Because that's now season two.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, I don't know why I had that mixed up in
my brain, but. So what
happened with Jenny and Eleanor that
she would need to give her a second chance?

Leif (17:32):
Or Jenny quit
and took her dress that she had, like, let
Eleanor take the credit for.

Uh, okay, right, right, right.

Steve (17:42):
And then went off and went to.

Leif (17:44):
Start the fashion line with Agnes. Yeah.

Gotcha. Okay. And then Agnes finished all the dresses,
right?

Steve (17:49):
Yeah, Yeah.

Leif (17:50):
I mean, you rip it on Rufus, but this is actually one of his best
parenting episodes for Jenny, I would say it really.

Steve (17:55):
It honestly is like, uh, honestly, this.

Leif (17:58):
Was a great thing. This is a great thing for him to do.

Steve (18:00):
He should have done this two years ago. Yeah,
exactly. Like, years ago when she's like, I want to go work for
her. Like. Okay, cool.

Is he friends with Eleanor?

Steve (18:10):
No.

Leif (18:12):
He'S friendly. I mean, he's been to dinner parties at her house
a few times.

Steve (18:16):
Yeah, he has. And now he also is
married into money, so.

Yeah, right. He married Lily.

Steve (18:22):
Yeah. He's in the Upper east side now, so
everyone knows who he is now.

Yeah. You can call in a favor to Eleanor Waldorf,
apparently.

Steve (18:30):
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Now that he's a token
husband. Now that he's Lily's
token.

Leif (18:36):
Well, if you ever see the duo. He tried to get Eleanor to
fire Jenny.

Yeah, Yeah. I just. I
didn't. I was like, how did he. How did he have this
relationship with Eleanor to call in a
favor? It's like, maybe Lily did it. I
don't know.

Leif (18:53):
Yeah, I mean, they've met a few times. They had dinner. Uh, he's been
to dinner at her house at least twice.

Okay, but enough to, like, call in a favor?

Steve (19:03):
Yeah.

Leif (19:03):
Well, I mean, it is free labor.

That's true. That's true. And. Yeah, but as, like, a second
chance, too.

Steve (19:09):
Yeah.

She already messed up, so. I don't know. I don't know.
I thought that was. That was weird. I forgot what had happened, but I was like,
does he know her?

Steve (19:17):
Yeah. Yeah.

Leif (19:20):
So Jenny and Rufus enter the Waldorf penthouse, and
Jenny is immediately remembers her love of this world, and
she sees all the, you know, prep going on, uh, everything
moving around, hubbub bubble. For the prep for the
show.

Steve (19:32):
Yeah. I was really excited for a
fashion show episode. Uh, the last one was
fun. Also, it's because you have
Eleanor, and like I said earlier, she's one
of my favorite actors on the show, and her
storylines always just make
me feel something.

Yeah, I love Eleanor Wildorf, too. Yeah. I also
thought it was interesting that they're prepping at
the Waldorf penthouse.

Steve (20:01):
Yeah.

Doesn't she have an atelier somewhere that
she could be getting her models or an office that
she should be using? Why?

Leif (20:11):
I guess that scent was being used for something else.

Yeah.

Leif (20:13):
Clearly that day,
Chuck and Blair are saying their morning goodbyes as they
go about their respective days. The two still
haven't uncovered Jack's plan. But as
Blair leaves, two large security guards arrive and tell
Chuck they're there to escort him off the
premises.

Poor Chuck. Poor
Blair with the hat in that scene.

Leif (20:41):
I kind of like that gray outfit. The gray outfit, though.

Steve (20:44):
Remember that?

Yeah, the hat.

Steve (20:47):
Remember that? Total Stranger that said she's my mom that a DNA
test says she probably is, that I trust completely.
That's still a good idea, right?

So, yeah, so I hadn't. Again, I hadn't watched the episode previous to
this, but. So Chuck signed
over his hotel to a
woman that he just met
based off of the results of the DNA test that he
didn't have control over.

Steve (21:13):
Yeah.

Leif (21:13):
Even if the DNA test is true, he still doesn't
know her.

Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.

Leif (21:19):
This is someone who abandoned him for his whole life.

Yeah. 18 years or whatever. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Chuck, come on. You're smart.

Steve (21:28):
Yeah. Yeah.

Leif (21:30):
Apparently not.

Steve (21:30):
It was. Yeah, apparently not. Apparently,
Chuck just needs a mom so bad.

Yeah.

Steve (21:37):
So badly.

Leif (21:38):
Lily, Hello.

Steve (21:39):
Yeah, like, oh, no, I can't ask my
dad's company that definitely would not want to see me
fail. Help me out. Like, come on, dude,
drop the ego.

Yeah. That was an interesting plot point
in the show. I mean, obviously it has to
happen for what happens at the end of the show, but, like,
why would you do that, Chuck? You're so smart.
Chuck and Blair are such schemers that I feel like he would
have thought this through a little bit more and talk
to Blair about it, too. I don't know if he did, but.

Leif (22:11):
I feel like Blair is actually the one who, like, really pushed him into
it. They set that
foreshadowing up big that it was, you know. Oh,
uh, I was the one who pushed you into it. I was the one
that gave you the strength to do it.

Steve (22:23):
This whole episode, I was waiting for
Chuck to turn on Blair,
and he never did, because I was waiting for him to be like, and
you.

Yeah. I'm surprised she would counsel
him to do that. That's. So have a relationship with
your mom. Yes. But sign over the rights to your hotel.
No.

Steve (22:43):
Claire is really quick to give really bad advice, though.
She is. Because SHU will be like, oh, maybe you shouldn't trust
her. And then the second that she meets somebody, she's like,
oh, no, I buy it completely.

Yeah.

Steve (22:54):
She did the same thing with Trip and Serena. When
Trip was. She was like, oh, no, he must really actually
love you. You should go on a trip with this congressman
who's married to someone else.

Yeah. And she also takes her own bad advice a lot,
too.

Steve (23:09):
Yeah.

Yeah. But she's so smart, too, and they scheme, and when they have
plots, they, like, work out and. Yeah.

Steve (23:15):
Yeah.

Just not very good advice givers, apparently.

Leif (23:21):
Jenny apologizes to Eleanor, and the two
make nice. However, Jenny is shocked to find out that
she is the not the only one getting a second chance.
Jenny's former business partner, Agnes is also in the
show.

Steve (23:33):
Yeah. This train wreck is back.

Why is Agnes there?

Steve (23:39):
This is not. She is not a
character we needed more of
to begin with.

She's an interesting character in the sense
that she creates drama. Right, right,
right. And that's a wild show. But, like,
the reasoning as to why she's there is very
confusing. Like, you're just given
second chances to everyone today, Eleanor.

Steve (24:04):
Yeah. And her beef with Jenny is
also kind of like, where is this really coming
from?

Yeah, you ended. They buried the
hatchet. And then she's like, huh? Haha. Just
kidding.

Steve (24:17):
Yeah. Yeah, just kidding. Because
you burnt. I burnt your dresses, and I'm still mad about
it.

Leif (24:24):
Well, I think she got mad is because Eleanor was
giving her more than a second chance.
Jenny. That is.

Steve (24:31):
Yeah. You think? Jealousy. Yeah.

Yeah. Because Agnes says later on, she said something about,
like, I was gonna have my own fashion line, and you ruined
it. But, like, Agnes, you're here with
Eleanor. You just made nice with Jenny. Someone else who can
help you with your career. Why are you trying to destroy that?
Yeah, Jenny was, uh, willing to give you a second chance as
well. Like, you completely destroyed that. And then the
blonde girl that. Who

(24:57):
was that?

Leif (24:59):
That was Noah. This is the first time we ever seen her.

Who's that?

Steve (25:02):
Y.

Leif (25:04):
But for some reason, she also hates Jenny. Yeah.

Uh, yeah, apparently. Why does everyone hate Jenny?
I was like, wait, did I miss something? I don't remember her.

Steve (25:13):
Nope, you did not miss anything.
Nothing that we all didn't miss.

Leif (25:20):
Dan and Vanessa are riding the elevator to Lily's
penthouse, anxious about telling the family about them dating.
However, their fear was needless, as everyone already knows.
Rufus and Serena congratulate Dan and Vanessa because, of course.
Course, Nate spilled the beans.
Never tell Nate a secret.

Steve (25:36):
Oh, no, never. And I hate this
whole. This whole Dan Vanessa story.
They had that hot kiss at one point
behind the photo, uh, thing. The photo
booth. And other than that, it has just been,
first of all, like, let's just open up a book of
tropes and see what we can do with

(25:56):
these best friends now dating. Like, let's just watch
Friends and then write
this whole storyline. Oh, we
gotta hide it from people. And this is where we're friends. And this is where
we're not. Oh. And now we're in a rut after dating for
five minutes, and it's like, shut up.

Leif (26:14):
The only thing I could think is they were trying to kind of
balance the deep, like, the
Darkness of the Chuck storyline with something a little
bit funny, but it just didn't land.

Yeah, funny and heartwarming at the end, but,
yeah, the whole damn Vanessa storyline. Um, in this
episode, I was. This is when I was like, what are they
doing? Like, if I were in this relationship, I would.
First of all, I would not be listening to Serena's advice.
No, you know, she didn't. She didn't really give advice. She just sort of,
like, planted a little seed in Vanessa's head about being in

(26:45):
a rut. And Vanessa's like, oh, my God, we are in a rut. And I
was like, serena, shut up.

Leif (26:49):
Like, yeah, first of all,
you know, Sarina and Nate weren't ever really
friends. They're friend adjacent.

Steve (26:58):
Yeah.

Leif (26:58):
But they weren't hanging out, watching movies together and,
you know, having deep conversations into the night.

Steve (27:04):
The most friendly thing. The most friendly thing
they've actually done together is Serena
covering for Nate's affair
with a married woman. Yeah.

But also, like, Nate's been obsessed with Serena since the
beginning.

Steve (27:21):
Yeah.

So it's not. It's not like they were ever just friends. He's always
had the hots for her.

Steve (27:25):
Exactly.

Leif (27:27):
And she's always had the hots for him, too.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, she did. Yeah.

Leif (27:31):
Per Lily.

Her and Lilial.

Leif (27:34):
No, Pearl, per Lily. She said, like. Like in
the. Like the first or second episode, she's like, oh, she's, like,
talking to Nate. She's like, uh, oh, I think my daughter's always had a crush on you.

Steve (27:43):
Yeah, I remember that.

The reason that. That Nate's so obsessed with her
is because they hooked up while he was dating Blair.

Steve (27:51):
Yeah.

That's episode one, isn't it?

Steve (27:53):
Yes. And either episode one or
two, the first time we see Lily interact with
Nate, she says something to him in front of
Dan, too, I think. Right. I think Nate and Dan are
in the lobby.

Leif (28:05):
Yeah. But I think. I don't think, uh, she knew Dan was there. Dan was just
kind of sitting there.

Steve (28:09):
Yeah.

Leif (28:10):
She was talking to Nate.

Dan was Joe Goldberg hanging,
preparing for his role in you.

Leif (28:20):
Shot on the same soundstages.

But yeah. She says something to Vanessa like,
oh, we always try and mix things up, and we don't want
it to ever get stale or something. And Vanessa's like,
hm, I should do that. And
then. Yeah. And then I'll talk about it when we get to that
scene. But, like, oh, my God, why are you. Like, why
did that get into your head?

Steve (28:42):
Yeah.

Leif (28:43):
Eleanor explains to Blair how she is trying to lure
a Walmart analog to carry her new line.
Shots are fired at Bristol Palin as Blair clearly
looks down on the retail chain. However,
Eleanor insists that Blair bring her normal college
friends to the party to impress Mr.
Conwell on how down to earth the
Waldorfs are. Dorota wonders what Blair will

(29:05):
do as she has no friends, only second rate
minions.

I love Dorota. Love, love, love Dorota.

Steve (29:14):
Yeah. And apparently, Dorota's baby kicks out
of time. And sloppily, because
she kicks like Lars Zolrick from Metallica.

Leif (29:25):
Shots fired.

Steve (29:26):
Shots fired.

I love how Blair goes down the region. She's like, what about Sax
or Bloomingdale's? Like,
Bloomingdale's a four or so.

Steve (29:37):
And just her face when her mom says
Cornwalls or Cornwalls. And she just
blank, like, are you kidding me?

Yeah, but, mom. Um, no.

Leif (29:50):
A distraught Elizabeth bursts into Chuck's
suite to apologize for forcing Chuck to leave.
Jack is close behind her and points out how he
masterminded the whole thing and the empire is
now his. A heartbroken Chuck stares
down Elizabeth as he walks out under his own
power. Poor Chuck.

Steve (30:09):
Ugh.

Leif (30:10):
But he brought it on himself.

Steve (30:12):
And I sat there, and I was like, oh, Jack must have something
on her.

Me too. Yes. I was like, what does he have
on her?

Steve (30:19):
And as we were saying, here you have the writers with
this great setup. He has some kind of
really great dirt on her. No, no.
Just. Just. The woman can't help herself around
the man that she's in love with.

The brother of her. Of her dad.

Steve (30:36):
Yeah. Of her dead, not husband.

Yeah. Uh, like
you were in love with both brothers. I don't.

Steve (30:44):
Like, uh.
Oh, my God, the worst.

But she seemed distraught. But, like, if she was really
distraught, she wouldn't have done it.

Steve (30:54):
Yeah.

Leif (30:55):
Yeah. It's so weird.

Steve (30:56):
Yeah.

Leif (30:57):
And as Chuck points out later, it, uh, completely
doesn't make sense, because why would you love someone that would
do so?

Steve (31:04):
Like. Yeah. Why would you. Hey,
I love you so much. You know, it would be great if
we. A great way for us to bond. Let's
completely fuck over your estranged son that
thinks you're dead. That'll bring us together,
spark up the romance, get us out of a rut.

Yeah. It's all about ruts today, isn't it?

Steve (31:26):
This is a run episode. This was. This was
their way.

But she comes in, she's like, I'm so, uh, sorry, Chuck. And then Jack's
like, I mastermind the whole thing. And I was like, you're in Love with
that. He's literally being a complete
asshole. Yeah, like you're saying I'm
sorry and he's saying, hahaha.
Clearly you made the wrong choice.

Steve (31:46):
Yeah. Yeah.

Leif (31:48):
And Gossip Girl takes us into the first commercial break
with.
We hear Chuck's hotel is hanging on by a thread and
Jack's pulling all the strings.

You're so clever, Gossip Girl. So clever.

Leif (32:04):
Act two begins. Vanessa and Serena are at
the buffet line discussing how they are both in new
relationships with lifetime friends. Serena
unintentionally causes Vanessa to become self conscious about her and
Dan doing the same things they have always done. Dan
comes in and talks about their Saturday tradition, which
just causes Vanessa to get even further inside her
head.

Steve (32:25):
So fucking dumb.

Yeah, so this was one of those lines that I was,
I was mentioning before about how the
acting really helps the scene
because. Or the story, because I
completely believed that Serena did not mean
any harm by saying these lines.
Whereas like, in any other situation you might
think that she was competing with Vanessa and being like, oh, you

(32:49):
guys are in a rut. Like, uh, you need to spice it up.
But she just like mentions it offhandedly. And
I completely believe that she wasn't trying to do anything
bad to Vanessa. And I thought that that was really
good because the writing was very much like a competition.
So yeah, this is one of those lines where I thought that the, the acting
definitely helped steer the story in the right

(33:10):
direction.

Steve (33:11):
Yeah, that's a really good point.

Leif (33:14):
Jenny is trying to get Agnes fitted, who is not
being very helpful. Jenny apologizes to Agnes
and the two make up. Jenny gets a text from
Damian looking for his drugs and Jenny explains the
situation to Agnes. Agnes comes up with a plan to
get revenge on Damian.

Steve (33:31):
First of all, why are you apologizing to
Agnes? Yeah, uh, she's the
one who was torching
your entire plan in front
of every investor you went to and
then literally torched all of your work.
And then you're like, I'm sorry that I stopped inviting you to

(33:52):
the meetings that you kept blowing up.

Yeah, yeah, I
just.

Steve (33:57):
Ugh.

Uh, I don't know why I'm friends with
Agnes. Like, I can understand her wanting to be friends
with Blair and Serena, but like, Agnes literally
has no social clout that Jenny would
want to have.

Steve (34:10):
Yeah, yeah. And why
are you already. You've just made up
with for five minutes and you're telling her about your
drug dealing ex boyfriend
and exhaust. Yeah, yeah.

And also Agnes says, oh, let's get
revenge on Damian. How?
When? What, what was the Plan.
She just said, come meet us at the show.

Leif (34:36):
Yeah, they're gonna show. They're gonna, like, show up the drugs and then flush them down
the toilet.

Right. Which also was like, that's gonna be a
huge. Like, he's gonna. He's gonna be mad. That's
not revenge.

Leif (34:46):
Well, I think that was, uh, Agnes's whole. She
wants chaos. She just wants chaos.

Yeah. But Jenny. Jenny should realize that, like, it's just gonna be
chaos. Flushing the. She does
is like, torching the dresses. Like, it's not gonna be good.

Steve (34:59):
Right? Yeah.

Leif (35:01):
So we have talked in recent episodes how Jenny
definitely does need friends. She doesn't really
have any friends. So that part I can kind of
buy. Kind of bending over backwards to get her friend
back.

Mm, that's true. Yeah. Uh, but why that
friend?

Steve (35:17):
Yeah. Yeah.

And then who's the one girl that hates her?

Steve (35:22):
Go find Eric.

Go find Eric. I know her and Eric are really good friends.

Leif (35:26):
Yeah, he's off, um, on Long island
getting revenge.

Yes. That was
also a really good show. You should do that after this one.

Steve (35:36):
Which one was that?

Leif (35:38):
Revenge.

Revenge.

Steve (35:40):
Mhm.

Leif (35:42):
Vanessa goes to Serena to ask for advice on how to
spice things up unsolicited. Nate
suggests two words, roleplay. Serena
then suggests a themed date based on one of
Dan's favorite films.

Steve (35:55):
This kind of goes back to what you were saying about
Serena, how that first scene was kind of
written almost competitively
or could have been very easily, a
very catty kind of
interaction. And here you have Serena once again,
full blown, like, hey, here's something
that you could do that Dan would probably like.

Yeah.

Leif (36:18):
Well, this seemed to very much reminded me
of season one with the opposite with
Serena, uh, going to Vanessa asking for advice on
Dan's gift.

Steve (36:28):
Oh, right. In season one.

Yeah. It's like, does Vanessa know him better or
does Serena know him better?

Steve (36:35):
Well, and that's funny because it's Vanessa knows
him as a friend and all the friend stuff to
do. But Serena knows him romantically.

Yeah.

Steve (36:45):
So it is kind of different worlds that they're
approaching it from.

But again, this scene too. Like, I didn't feel like
Serena was again competing or
showing up Vanessa. Like, I know what he wants.
Like, it just felt very helpful. It felt very
sincere.

Steve (37:02):
Yeah. And genuine and
friendly.

Yeah.

Leif (37:07):
Eleanor is impressed by Jenny's work and tells her that
after the show they should talk about fighting Jenny a permanent
position. One of the other assistants, Callie,
shows up with Damian's pills retrieved from Jenny's
dresser. Agnes is excited to get her chaos.
Binge. On. But after Eleanor's praise,
Jenny is having second thoughts on blowing things up.

(37:28):
Smart choice, Jenny.

Smart, smart, smart, smart.

Steve (37:32):
Callie has a name.

I know. I was like, who?

Steve (37:36):
Okay, can we talk about her for a second?
This person shows up out of
fucking nowhere. She is
nowhere in this show. Then one day shows up.
First of all, here are the pills exactly where you told me
they were. Jenny and I put them in this clutch.
You told this stranger where to
find your drug stash?

She's a named character. All right? She's
clearly friends with Jenny.

Steve (38:04):
They must have history.

Leif (38:06):
I did have to go with the IMDb to find her name.

Well, good for her. Good for that actress. I mean,
she got a big part in this episode.

Steve (38:21):
Yeah, she did great.
It's just.

Well, uh, that was not me.

Steve (38:27):
Elsa would where your drug
stash is.

But also, like, give them the keys to your apartment
and tell them where your drug stash is and,
um, then put them in my club. Like.

Steve (38:39):
Yeah.

And does she really have time to go run all the
way to Brooklyn and then come back to the Upper east side?

Leif (38:46):
Well, that would be at, ah, Lily's.

Oh, they were at Lily's.

Leif (38:49):
Yeah.

Oh, they're at Lily's. But still, yeah.

Leif (38:53):
Nate and Serena arrive at the bar to meet Chuck and Blair.
Chuck explains the whole Jack Bass Empire takeover
plot. Chuck's big plan is to get Elizabeth
alone so he can appeal to her as a son to his mother.
Chuck leaves to do just that. And Serena and
Nate, uh, express their doubts on the validity of the
DNA test, but Blair asks them to hold off.

(39:14):
The running joke of Blair having no friends
continues.

Why are they at a bar?

Leif (39:22):
Because they're always at a bar.
Chuck's depressed. He needs to drink. He needs some whiskey.

He wasn't there, was he?

Leif (39:29):
He was there at the beginning of the scene.

Steve (39:30):
Yeah.

Oh, was he? Okay, sorry, my bad.

Steve (39:32):
Well, to that point, this whole
scene could have been a text. Yeah,
Yeah. M. Hey, guys. This is what's going
down with Jack. But no,
it's like, meet me at this bar so I can tell you what's going on with
Jack.

Yeah,
the way that they zip around the city. It just is.
They get from movies so quickly.
Um, but they plant this seed about
the DNA test being faked, and
I'm like, oh, how's this going to play out? That's interesting.

Steve (40:06):
Mhm.

We'll talk about that later.

Leif (40:13):
At nyu, Dorota finds Blair's
air quote friend Brandeis and asks her
about her hourly. Right. And if she has around
3:30 more friends just like her.

Steve (40:25):
It was interesting how much the Columbia dorm
looked like Dan's. Outside of Dan's
dorm where he met Melissa.

Leif (40:34):
No, that is the NYU dorm.

That's the NYU dorms? Yeah.

Leif (40:38):
I thought. I want you.

Steve (40:39):
Why was Brandeis at nyu?

Leif (40:41):
She's at nyu.

That's where Blair is.

Steve (40:43):
I thought Brandeis was Columbia.

Leif (40:45):
No, those two girls that we
just meet this episode are from Columbia.

Yeah. Where did Blair meet Brandeis again?

Leif (40:53):
At the NYU coffee shop.

Steve (40:55):
Yeah, but I didn't think Brandeis went to nyu.

Leif (40:59):
She did.

Have you watched ahead, Steve? Have you
watched more episodes than you're supposed to?

Steve (41:07):
No, no, absolutely not.
Not since the very. The first four episodes.
I started binging. It was like. You do not get the concept
of this show, do you?
And, uh, now my poor wife.

Maybe you're getting Brandeis confused with Callie because
they're such important characters.

Steve (41:26):
Yeah, that must be it.
Callie goes to Columbia, right?

Maybe. Sure.
She's a working girl, so she's out of. Well, wait,
Brandeis is the working girl.

Steve (41:40):
Brandeis is the.

But, yeah, Callie's got a job, so maybe she's, uh.
Maybe she's out of college. I don't know. Who cares about Callie?

Steve (41:50):
Who cares about Callie?

That's what the name of this episode should have been.

Leif (41:58):
Back at the Waldorf penthouse, Jenny leaves the room to
wheel out a rack of garment bags with Callie
and foolishly trusts Agnes to watch her purse.
We, as the audience, see Callie give Agnes a sly
smile as she leads Jenny out of the room.
Agnes immediately goes for the purse and takes the
pills.

Like, why would you. Why,
Jenny?

Leif (42:20):
Yeah.

Steve (42:21):
Why are you still trusting this person?

She's still trusting. Yeah.

Steve (42:24):
Oh, hey, watch my stuff, okay. Yeah,
watch my stuff with all the drugs in it.

It wasn't even that, like, she was about to take her stuff, and Agnes was
like, oh, I'll watch it.

Steve (42:34):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

And I was like. But there's like, what
if she gets. What if she gets called away? What if Eleanor needs her to try
out another outfit? Like, what? Like, take your bag.

Steve (42:45):
Yeah.

And also, what if Eleanor comes by and just, like, happens
to, like, what if Agnes is in the bathroom and
Eleanor sees it or spills or someone bumps into it, et
cetera, et cetera. Anyway, yeah, it's like, this was.

Leif (42:58):
In the comic book world. There's a popular phrase called
plot induced stupidity.

100%. Yes,
I know. I find this with a lot of shows where I'm just like,
if they just sent a text message or if they just
clarified something really quickly. Or if
someone asked for clarification, none of this would have happened.
And yeah, m. The plot definitely relies
on plot induced stupidity.

Steve (43:25):
Yeah. Especially for a character like
Jenny, who's not stupid. Yeah, Jenny
isn't stupid. Trusting sometimes,
but not stupid.

Yeah, this was definitely a case of her being trusting
to someone she just made up with 20 seconds
ago.

Leif (43:42):
Gossip Girl takes us into the next break with.
Careful Jay. The show's about to start, and it
looks like Eleanor's line is going to bring the whole new
meaning to high fashion.
Act three begins. At the fashion show. Blair is
telling Serena to leave the Chuck situation alone.

(44:02):
Serena is surprised to see Brandis at that
event, but Blair points out Brandis's target, Mr.
Conwell. The ladies are closed for
business, but are just acting as normal college students.
When Serena becomes incredulous, Blair points out
that prostitutes are people too and have a lot of
disposable income.

Steve (44:25):
Yeah.

Leif (44:26):
So this is where I begin to question a few
episodes. Blair got in good with the
Tisch kids. She couldn't just, like, hire
some actors? Actors?

They would have been way cheaper than $300 an hour. Yeah,
they would have done it for free.

Steve (44:42):
Yeah.

Leif (44:44):
Performance art feat. Don't worry about it.

Performance art. Yeah. Oh,
man. Well, I'll let you know that a lot of those kids there
probably were from Tish the Bell.

Steve (44:53):
That's funny.

Leif (44:54):
Yes.
Not surprising. In Brooklyn, a
napping Dan is awakened by a kiss from Vanessa
in full Rear Window cosplay.

Steve (45:07):
Oh, Christ. Vanessa.

So they left
Lily's, and he was like, see you at 6.
And she was like, maybe 6:30. And then he's
asleep in a chair. What time is it? Like,
how late was she? And how did she have time
to do that whole makeup and hair, get up? And
did she do it at the apartment? Did he fall asleep waiting for her to get

(45:29):
dressed? Did she ride the subway looking like that?

Steve (45:33):
Set that whole table in silence?

Leif (45:36):
Yeah. While he was sleeping.

Steve (45:37):
While he's sleeping uncomfortably in a
chair 10ft away.

She drugged him. She absolutely drugged him
with Jenny's pills. Uh,
but, yeah, that was an interesting choice. And he
didn't seem super into it, did he?

Leif (45:55):
Yeah, he was like, yeah, I don't really like shellfish.

Well, she said she was gonna make, like, a yummy
noodle dish. Like, why didn't he. Why didn't she just make
that. Does. Is shellfish part of Rear Window?

Leif (46:08):
Yeah, it was like a whole. Like, it was the whole recreation of the whole
scene.

Oh, okay.

Leif (46:12):
Yeah. Uh, at the Show Jenny catches
Agnes visibly distributing Damien's pills to the
models. Jenny tries to shut it down, but Agnes
blackmails her into keeping quiet. Jenny tries to
tell Eleanor anyways, but it's too late. The show's about
to start. Agnes and Callie still are
plotting to take Jenny down.

And, like, what was Jenny going
hoping to do by telling
Eleanor? Because the models were
absolutely fine. Like, it didn't ruin
the show at all.

Leif (46:42):
Yeah, they probably have a decent tolerance buildup.

Yeah.

Steve (46:47):
Especially to that point. Agnes, uh,
is just handing out these pills to these models and
the models are like, cool pills.

Yeah.

Steve (46:54):
Oh, all right. Sweet. No one's one of these.

Leif (46:57):
I don't care.

Steve (46:57):
Yeah. What is this? Is this Tylenol? Is it
Necstasy? It's just. Oh, okay. I'm just gonna.
Thanks for the random pills.

Yeah. And she has no idea what the pills are. There were multiple different
ones, multiple different colors and different sizes. Which ones are she
giving out? Uh. And what is that gonna do to the
models? And then apparently nothing.

Steve (47:17):
And who lost their cholesterol medicine for them to get
this stash now? Because the last time they
had a stash, it was just stuff they stole from Lily.

Leif (47:28):
Thanks to some loyal employees. Chuck gets his one on
one meeting with Elizabeth. Chuck gets his answer on
why she helped Jack, and it's because she loves
him. Chuck himself exposes the
flawed writing of the storyline when he asks,
what kind of person would convince you to
do this to me?

That was a great show.

Leif (47:48):
Elizabeth tells Chuck that was a great show that she isn't really his
mother.

Steve (47:52):
Are you fucking serious?
My love for the man is just too
strong to be a good person.
I hated this. Like, that's
what you have on her.

That's what he has on her. Uh, and also, like, what?
Like, why? Why does the woman have to be the weak one?
There could have been so many reasons as to why
she was like, uh, listen, I don't know
you, you don't know me. I'm just a horrible person.

Steve (48:23):
Yeah. Yeah.

Leif (48:24):
I killed someone in Jack.

I left you once, I'm going to leave you again. Like, what did you expect?
But no, it's because she was in love with your dad's
brother.

Steve (48:34):
Yeah. Your dead dad's brother.

Leif (48:37):
I mean, make it about money. Like Chuck thought.

Steve (48:40):
Yeah, like anything.
And again, it goes back to the
setup the writers had and the
turn they took. It's like.
And also him. Yeah,
him.

Hm. I know. Yeah. Uh, but Chuck's
acting in this scene I thought was really good in terms
of, like, you don't really get a lot of
emotional crying scenes in Gossip Girl. It's a lot
more betrayal. I mean, this was betrayal as well, but this
was also seeded and rooted in the fact that this
was his mother. It wasn't just like, a friend of his. Like, this was someone

(49:14):
he's been wanting to meet and be with and have a relationship with
his entire life. Um, so his acting in this scene
I thought was amazing and heartbreaking.

Leif (49:24):
I did think, uh, Ed's acting was much better in
this episode than the past few episodes where he was kind of
phoning it in. But
yeah, he did do a good job in this episode.
Deadmau5 is deejaying the fashion show.
Serena tells Nate about Blair's hired friends.
Nate gets a call from Chuck, who tells Nate the
Empire is gone. Unfortunately,

(49:46):
Nate has a, uh, plan.

Steve (49:49):
Nate. Aw, are you
thinking?

Leif (49:55):
So I realized this morning when doing my notes,
Nate is basically Tommy boy.
He's got a rich family. Most people
like him. Um, he's a likable guy. He likes to party,
and he's not that smart.

Steve (50:10):
Yeah, he's gonna be in college for seven
years. Yes. Lots of people go to
college for seven years. Yeah, they're called
doctors. Um,
this was also the scene with that shot of the Brooklyn
Bridge behind Chuck when he
calls Nate and. Yeah, I loved that
shot.

Mhm.

Steve (50:33):
Yeah. Oh, Nate, don't do the thinking.
Um, we have Blair to thank.

Yes. And Serena tries to
formulate a plan with him too. And I was just like, this is. What are you guys
doing? You're not.

Steve (50:48):
And Serena, you can't create a plan that doesn't
involve yourself as some kind of honeypot. Like, you
only know one way to scheme.

Yeah.

Steve (50:57):
It's to throw yourself at somebody who's not interested.

Poor Serena.

Steve (51:03):
Poor Serena. I keep saying that I just
want someone to handcuff Serena and
Nate together so they can't see any other pretty
shiny objects and just stay together
at all times because they're the perfect couple.

Yeah, I like how you call them golden retriever couple
as well.

Steve (51:22):
Yes, they're our golden retrievers.

They are golden retrievers.

Steve (51:26):
They'll go for the. Yeah.

They really are the perfect couple.

Steve (51:31):
Uh, yeah. I love them together so
much. But again, handcuff them together. Don't
let them see any shiny
other object.

Leif (51:42):
Dan shits on Vanessa's lobster, then pulls out
two tickets to the student movie theater. This just
annoys Vanessa even more about being stuck in a rut,
which Dan is still oblivious to. Rufus
shows up and immediately Tries to back out when he sees they are on a
date. Before he can leave, Vanessa pass him
aggressively and invites Rufus to stay for dessert.

(52:02):
She then gets up and walks into the other room.

Steve (52:05):
It's funny to me. And Dan makes this
point at the end, but the whole point
to being with your best friend is to
continue the relationship you had,
right? Like, you're. You're together and you work because
you have this history and this great
relationship already that you're now adding a

(52:25):
layer to. And that was really
Dan's point later. But this is where I'm, um,
thinking, like, vanessa, why are you making such a big
deal of the fact that you're doing the stuff that you've been
doing together all along? Why is that a problem?

I was gonna ask you guys, like, whose side are you on? Are you on Dan's
side or Vanessa's side? And it seems like you're on Dan's side.

Steve (52:46):
I'm totally.

Leif (52:47):
I get both sides.

You're both sides.

Leif (52:51):
I understand both sides. I mean, I would
be more on the dance side if it was me, but I can see
Vanessa's point of view.

Steve (52:58):
I feel like it was just too early in the
relationship for Vanessa to jump to this.
That, like.

I agree.

Leif (53:05):
She definitely got inside her head.

Steve (53:07):
Yeah, exactly.

And also, like, talk about it first. You
know, again, this is like, if they just talk to each other,
but, uh, if she's like, hey, I feel like
we're in a rut. Can we maybe do a
rear window roleplay next week? Would that
be fun? Instead of just surprising him with it out of
nowhere because Serena put an earworm in

(53:29):
her. You know, like, uh, Dan
had no idea where this was coming from. He was completely
blindsided. Also, Dan's favorite movie is
Rear window.

Leif (53:39):
I would be Dan's favorite movie.

Watching other people.

Leif (53:41):
I could see that.

Another you reference, maybe.

Leif (53:49):
But also, Rufus, he shows up and acts
surprised, but they specifically told him they were going to have a
ramantic dinner tonight.

Yes. Yes, yes. He knew.
Get out of it, Rufus.

Steve (54:00):
Yeah, yeah. You're not even living there.

Leif (54:02):
Now he's got to get his 12
string, because that's what you need
every.

Steve (54:08):
Day because we haven't heard every time
on a 12 string yet.

Also, like, wouldn't your guitar be the first thing you
move to your new apartment as a musician?

Steve (54:21):
Yes.

Leif (54:22):
Take over. Ah, Bart's office with all his guitars.

Steve (54:26):
My instruments were all safely moved in before,
like, all of my instruments and nerd stuff were safely
moved in before my clothes.

Yeah. What do you need clothes for. No.
Yeah, that's what the laundry machine is for.

Steve (54:40):
Exactly. Exactly. I can just
toss them in. Uh, you know, it's just my wife and I living
there who needed. You know.

Leif (54:50):
Blair is trying to schmooze Mr. Conwell, but it
seems he has spotted the sex workers in the audience.
He tells Blair that he would never have that type of
clientele associated with his store's
Midwest image. Well, I mean, he
knew about that a little too easily.

Steve (55:05):
Yeah. That was. Yeah.

There's nothing he can. There's nothing he can do about
that, though. Those people probably
still shop at his store anyway.

Steve (55:16):
Yeah.

Regardless if Eleanor Waldorf's line is there or not. Like,
he can't. He can't stop that.

Leif (55:23):
Has he seen the people of Walmart.com?

I know. You should be lucky for these lovely people shopping
there.

Leif (55:31):
Yes. Jenny
watches from the wings as Eleanor takes her bow for
a successful show. Callie hands Jenny a
congratulatory glass of champagne. As Jenny
races her glass, she fails to see Callie telling
Agnes that she put a triple dose of the pills
in Jenny's drink.

Steve (55:49):
Why? Does Agnes have a minion?

Yeah. How. How does she have a minion?

Steve (55:54):
How.

That's apparently also friends with Jenny, but is like, I've been looking for a way
to screw her over.

Steve (55:59):
Yeah. Yeah.

Leif (56:01):
Everyone's just jealous of Jenny because she's so
talented.

Steve (56:05):
She is just such a talented designer.
As Dan is such a talented writer.

Yeah. As Rufus is such a talented
musician.

Steve (56:14):
And Rufus is a talent. Yes.

Everyone's so talented. Who is only talented
businessman.

Steve (56:20):
Yes.

Talented model.

Steve (56:25):
Rufus is only not a big
celebrity because he chose not
to be. Chose to stay home with his kids
rather than being
a rock star.

Yeah.

Leif (56:42):
Gossip Girl takes us to our next commercial with.
We hear Eleanor's show brought down the house.
Sounds like a night to remember, if you can.

Steve (56:56):
Yeah. Oh, we're
just drugging people now.

Leif (57:00):
We're just drugging people and making
jokes about it.

Again, they gave all the models
one pill. And then Callie was like. And nothing happened. And then
Callie was like, I gave her a triple dose. Of what? Nothing.
Like, yeah, nothing
happened with those pills.

Steve (57:18):
She took three metformin.

But also Jenny, like, Agnes hands her the, um.
Agnes hands her the champagne. And Jenny was like,
oh, last time, Eleanor congratulated me herself.
Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug. Like, maybe
that's a hint to, like, not drink the random
champagne that someone just gave you.

Steve (57:41):
Yeah.

Also, Jenny, you're 16, aren't you? Like, you shouldn't be
Drinking.

Leif (57:46):
Well, yeah, that's never stopped anyone on this show.

No, I know. Which.

Steve (57:51):
That's, uh. It's so funny how we actually
hardly talk about that anymore. Where the first
half of the first season, we are always talking
about. Oh, yeah, and here are these teenagers at a bar just
getting pounded at a bar.

Leif (58:05):
At least they're in college now.

Steve (58:06):
Yeah, at least they're in college now. And a lot of the drinking
does take place more at, like, private
events or at a, uh,
house or a dorm. It's not in
bars as much.

Yeah.

Steve (58:19):
Yeah. All of season one and two.

Leif (58:21):
Except for Chuck.

Steve (58:22):
Yeah, except for Chuck. But a lot of times it's
his bar, too.

Yeah, it's his bar. Usually.

Leif (58:28):
So we move into Act 4, and the drugs are
hitting Jenny hard and fast. She is
already stumbling around and asks Agnes what she put in
her drink. Agnes rips the fake friendship
facade off and tears into Jenny for ruining
her life and suffering zero consequences.
I don't know about that, Agnes.

Yeah, uh, zero consequences. You mean torching her
dresses wasn't enough?
But also, okay, wasn't the plan to
flush these pills. Where's Damian? Did Damian not
show up?

Steve (59:00):
Yeah, he never. He never showed up.

He never shows.

Leif (59:04):
Well, presumably Jenny texted him and said not to show up.

Oh, okay.

Leif (59:07):
She said she was going to. Yeah, she
showed that, but she said she was going to back out.

Okay, well, that was a cut scene then.

Leif (59:14):
Yeah.

So it's like, he's still showing up, isn't he? And then
Agnes is. Well, I'll talk about it in a
minute.

Steve (59:22):
Yeah, the second part two of her plan.

Yeah.

Leif (59:25):
Uh, anyway, yeah,
Nate's plan has gone into effect as Jack arrives at the
fashion show looking for Chuck. Nate tells Jack to
wait by the bar, and he is immediately surrounded by some of the
escorts.

Steve (59:37):
Oh, Nate.

Leif (59:38):
So high school.

This is like, don't be suspicious. Don't be
suspicious.

Steve (59:42):
Don't be suspicious. Don't.

It's like you call me here to meet with my nephew, who is not
here, but all of a sudden, there are tons of women all over me.

Steve (59:51):
Yeah.

Leif (59:54):
Oh, Nate. Rufus
is awkwardly trying to make small talk as he is to close,
clearly imposing on a date. Vanessa gets up and Rufus
whispers some advice to Dan. However, before they realize it,
Vanessa is out the door.

Steve (01:00:08):
Why are you sitting there?

Danielle Joy (01:00:10):
Get out of there, Rufus.

Leif (01:00:13):
Like, yeah, just leave.

Steve (01:00:15):
Why did you sit down? You already said you shouldn't sit
down. Yeah, why did you sit down?

Yeah. Uh, this was probably the funniest scene to me, because
after she leaves, Dan Just goes. She left. All
right. So over it.
Yeah.

Leif (01:00:33):
Like I said at the beginning, I think that was the intention of
this storyline was to bring some humor to the episode.

Yeah.

Leif (01:00:39):
And Pen is great at the humor stuff.

Steve (01:00:41):
Yeah.

Leif (01:00:42):
But I just don't care about Dan and Vanessa.

Steve (01:00:44):
Ah, yeah. Yes, completely.

I also just love how Dan is so desperate or was so
desperate to be in this world, and then when they
act the way the world acts, he's just like,
they're out of the. Like, you wanted this.

Steve (01:00:59):
Yeah.

Leif (01:01:01):
At the show, Blair accuses Brandeis of going
outside mission parameters. Brandeis, however, is
innocent. Mr. Kamala actually recognized a male
escort at the party. Seems Mr. Midwest Family
man is something of a hypocrite. You can tell how little Blair
actually cares about Brandeis by how quickly,
uh, she apologizes to her. She would never pause to

(01:01:21):
Sarina that fast.

Steve (01:01:25):
And, uh, yeah. I love her owning this
Cornwall guy. Cornwell guy.

Leif (01:01:30):
And that comes next.

Steve (01:01:32):
Oh, I thought that was right there.

Yeah.

Leif (01:01:34):
This is just where she confronts Brandeis.

Steve (01:01:36):
Yeah. And Brandeis is like, it's not me.

Yeah.

Leif (01:01:39):
Yeah. Because.
Yeah. Blair immediately takes this new information to
blackmail Mr. Conwell into reconsidering Eleanor's line.

Steve (01:01:47):
Yes. Classic Blair.

Yeah.

Leif (01:01:50):
Yeah.

This is the scheming Blair that I love.

Steve (01:01:52):
Yeah.

Not that I condone blackmailing, but, like, come on, this is.
This is the essence of blackmail.

Leif (01:01:58):
The original plan failed, but she goes right to blackmail.

Steve (01:02:01):
And as we've often said, within the morality
of this show, uh, she's right
on. On cue. You know, she's.

She is the barometer for the show.
She really is the barometer for the show.

Steve (01:02:16):
Yeah.
Yeah.

Leif (01:02:20):
As they and Serena walk towards Jack's limo,
Nate explains the plan to take a picture of Jack with the
escorts to show to Elizabeth when they open the door,
Jack isn't having sex with the women. They are having a
conversation about sustainable energy.

Steve (01:02:34):
I love that.

What an easy night for those ladies, huh? Huh?

Steve (01:02:37):
Yeah. Yeah.

Leif (01:02:40):
As presumably Nate also paid them.

Steve (01:02:44):
Yeah.

But also, I. I would think that a picture like
that would. Would be enough.

Steve (01:02:49):
Yeah.

Be compromising. You're with two escorts
in your limo. You know, I didn't happen
to catch you in the throes of passion, but you're still
in the limo with them, taking them somewhere. Like I would
put the pieces. Like, that picture would still work, I think.

Steve (01:03:05):
Yeah.

So silly.

Leif (01:03:08):
But the one bright side of Nate's plan is that it puts him outside
to see a stumbling and nearly passed Jenny
being shoved into a cab by Agnes and Callie
for the purpose of.

Steve (01:03:19):
Having her sexually assaulted. Like.
Like you. Now Agnes is just
escalating to accessory
to.

Leif (01:03:28):
And presumably that taxi driver heard what they were saying,
too.

Steve (01:03:31):
Yeah.

Leif (01:03:33):
So he's kind of eight on a two now.

Yeah. Like, we haven't. We haven't gotten to that. To that
scene yet. But like you just said, Agnes's
plan was not get
Jenny hammered and then throw her on
stage in the middle of the fashion show and destroy her chances with
Eleanor Waldorf. It was get her hammered,
take her to another location with random men,

(01:03:56):
and get her date raped.

Steve (01:03:59):
Like, well, she says when she's putting her in the
cab, we're going to get this girl laid.

Yeah, but how is that revenge?

Steve (01:04:07):
Yeah.

Leif (01:04:07):
Like, just pure evil.

Steve (01:04:09):
Yeah.

Like, Jenny was stumbling around, and
all she had to do was just push her on stage at the
fashion show.

Steve (01:04:16):
Yeah.

And embarrass her in front of Eleanor. Like, why jump
immediately to sexual assault with random
people?

Steve (01:04:23):
Yeah. Just dropping her off at some point.

She didn't know that those men were going to be there.

Steve (01:04:26):
Like, yeah, uh, there's got to be a bachelor party there. There's. You know,
there's always a bachelor party.

At this bar, and I love that.
Right after Nate and Serena see Jack,
Nate's like, I'll call Chuck, and Serena's like, I'll
go find Blair. Why? Why? Just to get her
off screen. Right. So that Nate's the only one who
used Jenny. And, like, why couldn't Serena also
be there? I didn't. I didn't understand. Because she never goes and finds

(01:04:51):
Blair.

Leif (01:04:52):
No.

Steve (01:04:52):
Uh, yeah.

Oh, no, she does. She does eventually. But. Yeah.
Like, why. Why are you going back to Blair? Because your plan failed.
I don't understand.

Steve (01:05:01):
Yeah.

Leif (01:05:02):
Gossip Girl has this to say.
Spotted. Little J. Passing out in a taxi.
Oh, looks like somebody better call the fashion police.
We go into Act 5, and Agnes and her crew
dump a barely conscious Jetney off at a bachelor
party. Chaotic, evil.

Which lecherous men.
You would think that at least one of them would be decent and be
like, hey, let's get you home. Like, who are you? Like, no
one talks to her. They just leave her on the couch. And then one
guy's like, hey, I'll get her home. And it's like, no, your friends
know that you're being weird.

Steve (01:05:42):
Yeah.

Stop. Stop him.

Steve (01:05:45):
Yeah. Yeah. It's.

They leave her there for, like, ages.

Steve (01:05:48):
Yeah. And the friends I know we haven't gotten.

Leif (01:05:51):
Like, they said she looks like she's 12.

Steve (01:05:53):
Yeah.

Leif (01:05:54):
Should you try to help her out Maybe.

Yeah.

Leif (01:05:59):
Yeah. Uh, but unfortunately,
believable.

This whole bachelor party is happening around her passing out on a
couch while all the guys are just, like, standing around being like,
she's sexy. She looks like she's 12. We should get her home. What should
we do about it? And it's just like,
nobody does anything until, like, at the very end, the guy who's
super drunk is like, I'll help her. And it's like, no, you won't.

Steve (01:06:20):
Yeah. Yeah.

Leif (01:06:22):
Backstage of the show, Conwell, with Blair's
encouragement, tells Eleanor that he would love to have her new
line in his stores with a few changes.
Eleanor, however, is unwilling to compromise her artistic
vision and her brand and turns down the offer.
Blair, emboldened by her mother's honesty and courage,
tells Eleanor about not having any real friends

(01:06:43):
again.

Steve (01:06:43):
I love Eleanor. She's such a fucking boss.
She's just like, you want to take my name
off of my clothes? No.
Absolutely not.

What was this guy's deal? Like, what. Why was he
even there? Like, he knows Eleanor
Waldorf's designs. It's not like she was a new designer.

Steve (01:07:04):
Yeah, yeah.

Why would he even be entertaining this notion
if he didn't think the clothes were going to be
a good fit anyway? I don't know. I thought. I mean, it
was great to see powerful Eleanor Waldorf and
Blair be able to open up to her mom,
but, like, this guy was just obviously
not there for a while.

Leif (01:07:24):
He wanted the free trip to New York so he could meet with his, uh, male
escort friend.

Steve (01:07:28):
Really, ultimately, there you go. That is what
it looks like.

Yeah, you're right. You're right.

Steve (01:07:34):
I also loved.
Eleanor does everything she can to try to get
me to cry when she. At the end of her
episodes. And I think I held it together with this one.
But, man, when she was talking with Blair and she's
like, the thing about Waldorf women
is we don't fit in everywhere. And

(01:07:54):
you. You fit in somewhere you haven't found
your place. Like, the thing that her daughter needs
so much to hear from her right now, and she
just nails it. She just
lands that plane. You know,
she just really gets through to
Blair the way Blair needs it right there. And

(01:08:16):
I just love that Blair has.

The best parents on the show, hands down.
Yeah.

Steve (01:08:24):
And also, like I said earlier, these
two are two of the best actors on the show,
and when they have a scene together, it just is
so moving. We've also said one of
our favorite scenes is from the second Thanksgiving
episode with the two of them and Taylor
When Jenny is making up with

(01:08:45):
Blair and Eleanor on Thanksgiving, where
that hit me right in the gut.

Yeah.

Steve (01:08:51):
So, yeah, I love watching them work.

And it's so good to see as well, because Blair,
when we have scenes with just Blair, like the whole show is
basically Blair and she
is an adult. She acts and
comports herself like an adult. And then when we see her with
her mom, she turns into a kid and, you know, she
gets a little bit more vulnerable. And I think that dynamic

(01:09:15):
really just the, uh, acting level of it, the
vulnerability of it, it's just. It's. It's really
interesting to see on screen as well.

Steve (01:09:22):
Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

Leif (01:09:24):
The bachelor party is getting ready to move on to the next
destination. Jenny is still semi conscious. And
once sleazeball offers to hang back to take care of
blondie, a slurring Jenny takes a call
from Nate, who is thankfully able to track her phone,
which.

How. How is he tracking her phone?

Leif (01:09:42):
Um, I mean, find my phone was a
thing at that point.

Steve (01:09:46):
Was it?

But, like, why would. Why would Nate be able to track Jenny?
It's just funny.

Steve (01:09:52):
It's convenient. Yeah, it is.

The thing about Gossip Girl is they had a lot of,
um, contracts with different
phone providers. Oh, yeah, There were always a lot
of. That's why Gossip Girl pops up on the phones. And there's a lot of
insert shots of a phone or like they're using the phone in
a way that you wouldn't expect to use it. So this Find My
Friend.

Steve (01:10:14):
Throwing it in the trash.

Yeah. In your phone. I know they
just disposable, but yeah. So this
Find My Friend feature was probably something that the company
was like, hey, we need to feature this. And
they wrote it into the episode as a way to do that. So that's
what I'm thinking because they did a lot of that.

Leif (01:10:33):
Mhm.

Throughout the show, where the phones were essentially like
another character on the show as well.

Steve (01:10:38):
Oh, that.

Leif (01:10:39):
Let's bing it.

Binging.

Leif (01:10:44):
I think that gets big in season five. I think
everyone has to. Let's bing it.

Let's bang the fuck up. Noah says that there was
one. I think you might have seen this episode already, but there was one
where Blair turns on music. It's Flo
Rida, and she's listening to her phone walking down
a hallway. It's Flo Rida, get low or something.
I just remember that being like, oh, you can listen to music on your
phone now. It was one of those

(01:11:09):
insert shots. So, yes, the phones are another character on the show. So
I'M assuming that this is one of those things
where they were trying to show a feature of the phone, little
product placement.

Steve (01:11:19):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah.

Leif (01:11:23):
Dan finds Vanessa at her dorm and invites
her on a surprise romantic second.

First date, which Vanessa,
she got out of that makeup and hair so quickly
and put on new makeup and did her hair so quickly.

Steve (01:11:42):
Like, took off the fake lashes, then
redid her mascara.

Yeah.

Leif (01:11:49):
She must have done on the subway ride home or something.

She should be in a lounge bar set. Hair and a
bun, no makeup. What are you
doing?

Steve (01:12:01):
And also. Just shut up.
Just stop, Vanessa. Uh, just stop.

I'm sorry it didn't work out the way you wanted to, but let's not
pout. Please
take the L and just be like, well, that didn't work. Let's
go see some shows, like, hang out with your
boyfriends.

Steve (01:12:20):
Do the thing that you love doing with your boyfriend.

Yeah.

Leif (01:12:24):
Elizabeth calls Chuck for a final meeting and
tells him that she tried to get Jack to give the
hotel back to Chuck, but Jack chose the hotel
over her. With nothing left,
Elizabeth is returning to Zurich. Chuck asks
her to stay for him, but she tells him that she isn't
really his mother. And Jack faked the DNA test.

Duh.

Steve (01:12:47):
So much.

Leif (01:12:47):
But that he. But she didn't though, right?

Well, duh. To the. To the. Jack doesn't love her.

Leif (01:12:53):
Yeah.

Like, duh, Jack doesn't love you. Jack was clearly using
you. And you should have known that if you've known him for
20 years because you knew his brother.

Steve (01:13:02):
Yeah.

You've known Jack for a long time.

Steve (01:13:05):
And the whole, like, stay for me, though. Stay for
me. Chuck, how much do you really mean to this
person? How much have they demonstrated you
really mean to them?

Um, yeah. But he still wants his mom.

Steve (01:13:17):
Yeah.

And the. And the only way that he could, uh, she could get
rid of him was to say that she wasn't his mom.
And that's when he sort of gives up, which is also heartbreaking.
Like, he, like learning that the woman
that you want to have so desperately want to have a relationship with
faked a DNA test to steal your hotel from you.
The only thing that's really, like, your family.

Steve (01:13:38):
Yeah.

Only thing you have left of your family. That's.
That's terrible.

Steve (01:13:42):
Yeah.

That's heartbreaking.

Steve (01:13:44):
Yeah.

Leif (01:13:46):
Nate arrives at the club and overhears the bachelor party
talking about a very young looking girl.
Nate arrives just in time to stop the sleaze ball from sneaking
Jenny back to his apartment. And Nate escorts Jenny out
of the club.

Steve (01:13:59):
These dudes know that their friend
is about to. To assault
a minor, and they're like, man, that guy's
in there. All right? Like, man, someone should get him away
from her. It's like you.

You.

Steve (01:14:15):
If you're recognizing that, you should get him
away from her.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Steve (01:14:21):
Yes. Yeah.

Then also, a random guy
comes in and steals this blonde
chick away, and no one stops him. No one knows who Nate
is. Yeah, Nate just says, jenny and
picks her up, and you're like, oh, she's fine.
Like, you don't know who he is either.

Steve (01:14:39):
Yeah.

Leif (01:14:40):
Where are the bartenders and all this?

Um, yeah. Bartender would clearly get her someone.

Leif (01:14:46):
I mean, some. Someone should have
fixed this.

Steve (01:14:50):
Yeah. She should have been. Yeah.
In an ambulance by now,
leaving the bar.

Yeah. There were no girls at this bar. Like,
female solidarity. Like, if I saw her, I'd be like, let me look in your
purse. Where do you live? You know, like.

Steve (01:15:05):
Yeah, exactly.

Home. There were no women in this bar at all
to help her.

Steve (01:15:12):
Uh.

Leif (01:15:15):
But Gossip Girl has this to say.
Uh, it seems chivalry isn't dead
after all. Lucky for this damsel in a
dress, some things never go out of fashion.
We go into the epilogue, and by this time, Nate
has gotten Jenny home. She is sobered up enough to get past

(01:15:36):
Rufus and get to her room. Rufus thanks
Nate for seeing her home. And Nate is about to leave when
he realizes he's still holding Jenny's bag.

Jenny sobered up so quick,
he wrote.

Steve (01:15:50):
The same thing down.

I was like, I have never in my life.
I've never taken pills. But also,
I've been drunk, and I am hungover for a
day. She was like, all right, I'm just gonna go to bed now.

Steve (01:16:04):
Uh, what were those
pills? Right?

Clearly nothing, because nobody was affected
by them.

Steve (01:16:12):
They're forget me nows.

And then also, Rufus got back
to the apartment really quickly.

Steve (01:16:21):
Yeah.

Like, he was just in Brooklyn, right?

Steve (01:16:25):
Yeah. Yep, he was.

Leif (01:16:27):
Well, presumably some time has passed, because
they. They did say, like, presumably enough time for them
to have walked all the way home from the show, because that's. That was the excuse
of why they were late.

Steve (01:16:37):
Oh, that is true.

Leif (01:16:39):
Okay, so the Rufus part is definitely more
believable. But, yeah, you would think Jenny would be still a little
more than influence.

She would be. She would be sneaking in
past her dad, like, hey, Nate, you
go in first, distract my dad upstairs, and then I'll sneak
in, you know, like, uh, there's no way she Would be
sober.

Leif (01:17:02):
Uh, uh, speaking of Rufus, I know
Nate's trustworthy and all that, but you just kind of leave
him standing in the foyer. That just seems, like, bad and matters.
I'm going to go to bed now. See you, Nate.

Steve (01:17:14):
Take it easy.

No one cares about these kids. None of the parents care about these kids.

Steve (01:17:20):
None.

Leif (01:17:21):
Serena congratulates Blair for finally being honest with
her mother. When Blair is approached by three Columbia
students who recognize her because everyone at Columbia reads
Gossip Girl, Blair compliments one's shoes,
but then corrects her on the placement of her headband. Bow. Uh,
Blair asks Serena what she knows about
Columbia.

This is me.

Steve (01:17:41):
Yay.

Finally. Yes. I
appreciate you saying I was one of the models, but this is me.

Steve (01:17:52):
Well, I actually had the thought of
could you have done both because they were such different
scenes. Could they have been like, switch your outfit.
Get. You know. Yeah, but.
Yeah, so. But that
does make a lot of sense.

I am the one that doesn't talk because
I was just picked from a random background
person. Um, yeah, they. The
director. So in Gossip Girl, there's
this trope of, like, everyone has to be in three. So
there's, like, Blair and her two minions, and, like, you know, so like, there's
a trope of there being three. So they had the

(01:18:28):
two girls that.

Steve (01:18:29):
Were hired, Marissa Fumero
and Alice Callahan.

Both of them were so nice. And they
had those two cast already. And so the director was like, we
need a third. We need a third person to walk up with them.
So he picked. Or someone picked a PA. Picked like 6 to
10 girls and lined us all up. And
I was chosen with another girl by the director.
And then I was wearing what I was wearing. And then the other

(01:18:54):
girl was wearing the silky blue, uh,
shirt. And the director turned to one of the PAs and was like,
what are the girls wearing? And they said, oh,
they're wearing these frilly shirts. And I was wearing a frilly
shirt. And that is why I got picked. So
because I matched the aesthetic, I was
chosen.

Steve (01:19:14):
Wow. That.

Leif (01:19:16):
We're definitely of that era.

Yes.

Steve (01:19:18):
Yeah.

They were both so, so nice. Very,
very welcoming and, uh, chatty
when we weren't filming. So they were both very, very nice.

Leif (01:19:28):
Fun.

Steve (01:19:29):
I recognized. Can't remember if it's Melissa or
Marissa Fumaro.

Leif (01:19:33):
Melissa.

Steve (01:19:33):
Melissa. But she was on Brooklyn. Nine. Nine.

Yeah.

Steve (01:19:38):
And I always had a thing for her
when she'd come on. And my wife always.
It's like a long running joke. So when she showed up, she
goes, great, your girl's here.

And now you met another one of the ones in that scene, so.

Steve (01:19:54):
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. That's awesome.

But yeah, so Brooklyn Nine Nine was after that. So she was,
um, talking about how she was a huge, like,
soap actress.

Steve (01:20:03):
Oh, okay.

Mostly soaps. Um, so we were talking about that
backstage, and then we did that, and then she got on Brooklyn
Nine Nine, and I was like, go, you.

Steve (01:20:11):
Yeah.

Because she was really nice. Good for her. Um,
yeah.

Steve (01:20:16):
That's awesome.

Leif (01:20:17):
Nate goes to Jenny's room to return her purse and finds
her fighting depression. Nate tries to cheer her
up, but nothing seems to get through to Jenny. Until she gets a
text from Eleanor telling her that she's hired
Jenny. Hugs and thanks Nate for saving her. As
Nate gets up to leave, Jenny gets a
schemey look on her face
again.

Agnes's plan could have been so much better if she
just kept Jenny at the fashion
event in front of Eleanor Waldorf. If Agnes really
wanted revenge, that's what would happen. People need to
consult Blair and Chuck when they want a scheme.
There's just no point in anyone else doing any scheming.

Steve (01:20:56):
And Nate is such a good big brother friend.
He's so. And you had mentioned the big brother
thing earlier, and I
really love how he treats Jenny.
Although you. It's not the same both
ways. Jenny obviously
has a thing for Nate. Oh, that was.

Ah.

Steve (01:21:17):
Yeah. And I get it. You know,
Nate is. I mean, he's Nate.
He's not a bad catch.

No, he's cute and he's nice and he's friendly.
But yeah, he's definitely like a good older
brother to Jenny. And, uh, he's never. He's never
been. As far as I can remember, he's never been anything
more to her. Like, he doesn't.

Steve (01:21:39):
They.

Leif (01:21:39):
They definitely had a few kisses in season three.

Oh, did they?

Steve (01:21:42):
Yeah, they had a very.

Cut that out.

Steve (01:21:46):
Well, it was. It was a short, and it just.

Leif (01:21:48):
Happened to happen while he was. Nate was living with them
too, so. Because he was more of your brother than ever.

Oh, yeah.

Steve (01:21:54):
Uh, yeah. And then. And then Dan
ended up. That blew up Dan and Nate's
relationship, and
that broke up Jenny and Nate,
and that kind of pushed Nate and Vanessa together.

Yeah, I don't remember the earlier seasons that well.

Leif (01:22:12):
In season one, I thought Dan was a good brother to Jenny, but
then in season two, he started taking his cues from Rufus.

Steve (01:22:18):
Yes. And a lot more.
The patriarchal parenting
of Rufus, of my son is
free to explore his creative interests. But
my little girl needs to stay in school and
be a good Little.

Kid, but also, like, I
know Rufus got this job for Jenny,
but this fashion show went on until the wee
hours of the morning, and Rufus was a.
Okay with Jenny staying out that late without a chaperone.
He was like, oh, yeah. Thanks, Nate, for bringing her home. Like, how did you think she was going
to get home? Dan was doing nothing

(01:22:55):
that night. Like, aside from the fact that
Vanessa wanted him to have a
date night. But both of them, um, should have been at the
fashion show watching over Jenny.

Leif (01:23:05):
Yeah.

Steve (01:23:06):
Especially because while Jenny's grounded, the
whole thing was, you go to school. You.
You are escorted from class to class. You have
lunch with the principal, you go back to being
escorted from class to class, and then you're escorted home,
and now it's.

But go to this fashion show on your own.

Leif (01:23:24):
Uh, that was just the last episode, and that.

Steve (01:23:26):
Yeah.

Yeah. Dan absolutely should have been at that fashion show. It's not
like he didn't know people there. Yeah, he absolutely should have been
there watching over Jenny.

Leif (01:23:34):
Anyway, m. Yep. Dan's
romantic date is takeout and progress in
Vanessa's dorm room. But really, it's his words that
seal the deal for him. They kiss, and Gossip Girl
begins her closing monologue.

Nope. This was. I would be so angry at
Dan if I were Vanessa. I'd be so
angry.

Steve (01:23:54):
No, let me show you exactly why. You're right.

Thank you. Those are the words I want
to hear. Thank you.

Steve (01:24:02):
Yeah. No, no, no. Uh, I'm gonna just lay out for you that you
were right all along, and here is why.

Yeah.

Leif (01:24:08):
Hey, maybe she just really likes to be right.

Steve (01:24:10):
And it's funny.

Leif (01:24:11):
It seemed to work. It seemed to work.

Yeah, I just. I, uh.

Steve (01:24:15):
Yeah.

If I. If someone promised me the most romantic date ever
and then did the same thing that I was just complaining about that
I didn't want to do
and then said, but this is the most romantic date, I'd be like,
all right, we're broken up now. Bye.
Like, clearly, I need more. Like, uh, yeah.

Steve (01:24:34):
Yeah.

I was so mad.

Steve (01:24:36):
Yeah.

Leif (01:24:38):
But Dan being Dan.

Steve (01:24:40):
Yeah.

Leif (01:24:41):
Nate finds Serena on the street, and the two kiss.
Uh, not much happens. They just kind of find each other.

Aw.

Leif (01:24:50):
Jenny is on her laptop reading a Gossip Girl blast
entitled the Golden Couple, featuring a picture of
Nate and Serena.

Steve (01:24:57):
Golden retriever couple.

So true.

Steve (01:25:03):
But again, here you see Jenny
plotting that. You can see that she wants to get
in between them.

Leave it alone, Jenny.

Steve (01:25:11):
Uh, she's so hurt.

Yeah.

Leif (01:25:15):
I mean, I get it, though, because, I mean, Nate is just, like,
constantly saving her. I Mean, she can't help it. She
can't help falling in love with him.

Steve (01:25:22):
And the previous episode when she said she
looked him dead in the eye and said, well, you're not available,
you know?

Leif (01:25:30):
And, uh, yet he's still there.

Steve (01:25:32):
And yet he's still there.

But it's not like he was there because he had a fight with Serena.
Uh, he was there because he happened to be the one
available.

Steve (01:25:40):
Yeah. And saw her shoved into a cab.

Yeah.

Leif (01:25:45):
Stay tuned for next week.

Steve (01:25:46):
Yeah.

Leif (01:25:49):
Jack is in Chuck's suite, drinking alone, staring
out the window like Lex Luthor. Jack picks up
his phone and calls Elizabeth in a last ditch
effort to get her to stay. Instead, Elizabeth
is more disgusted by Jack than ever and hates herself for
ever having loved him. Their party,
uh, their party words imply that Elizabeth is really Chuck's

(01:26:10):
mother. And as Elizabeth car pulls away from the
hotel, we see that she once again repaired
the locket containing the picture of Bart and Elizabeth
holding baby Chuck.

Steve (01:26:20):
Please be gone forever.

This was so sad, though, because I had forgotten
that she was actually his mom. And when she said we
faked it, I was like, oh, yeah, makes sense, right?
But she is actually his mom and she did all of that to him
because Chuck even says to her, my mom would never do this.
And then she was like, well, I'm not your mom. I was like, okay, that makes sense.
But then she is his mom and she did that to him.

(01:26:43):
And I was. I was very sort of quite a.

Steve (01:26:45):
Roller coaster with her.

Yeah.

Steve (01:26:48):
Uh, the other thing. Jack, right?
The way Jack is upset
that she's leaving and doesn't want her to.
That he does actually seem to love this
person, despite being
a horrible human being.

Leif (01:27:05):
I think love is a little strong. I think he likes having her around.
The convenience. Having someone that
loves him and is willing to do anything,
including betraying her own son for him.

Steve (01:27:16):
Yeah, I mean, well, you know,
it is a green flag, you know, if someone's willing to
screw over my kids for me. I, uh,
you know, that's a.

Leif (01:27:28):
You really love me.

Steve (01:27:29):
That's keeper. Come on, Robin.

He definitely thought that she could be useful as
a pawn later on to manipulate Chuck. Uh,
but then she tells him, I told him he wasn't my son.
And then he was like, ah.

Steve (01:27:42):
Ah.

Okay, nevermind.

Leif (01:27:43):
Yeah, peace.

Yeah, like you're useless. Bye.

Leif (01:27:50):
Blair is hanging a Columbia pendant in her dorm room
when Chuck knocks on the door. It looks like Chuck and
Blair are ready to go to war with Uncle Jack.

Yeah, this is my favorite. Chuck and Blair scheming
Yeah. Love them together.

Leif (01:28:05):
And then Gossip Girl closes the episode with,
if you are what you wear, you better dress the part
you want. A few lucky ladies can do
no wrong. Their looks perfection,
and they've got accessories to match. But most
girls get tired of the same old look, and they'll do

(01:28:25):
just about anything to get the hot new piece
on their arm. And then there are those with no
vision of their own. Thieves of fashion that will
steal the shirt off your back. And always remember,
appearances can be misgiving. But whatever you
wear, always dressed to kill.
XOXO Gossip
Girl. And that is the episode.

Steve (01:28:48):
Yeah.

Leif (01:28:50):
What is coming next?

Steve (01:28:52):
My number one prediction is,
first of all, Jenny is going to go after
Nate and Serena. Jenny's going to try to
break them up and go for Nate. I also
believe Blair is looking for a
change of scenery. I think we might see her try to
transfer to Colombia. That she definitely

(01:29:12):
is more interested in and
knows that she has potential minions and friends
at Columbia. So that'd be. That'd be
interesting. Except then we have Dan and
Vanessa at NYU and Nate
and. And Blair at
Columbia, and we're back to having this
separate show again, which we're already getting

(01:29:34):
into with that couple.

Leif (01:29:37):
I consider. They never actually show class.
I don't think that really matters. They're all going to school
in New York.

Steve (01:29:44):
Yeah. Yeah.

You don't know. If they don't show class.

Leif (01:29:49):
They haven't yet. We're almost.
Almost one full season in through college years.

Steve (01:29:55):
Yeah. I don't have they. I think we
saw, what, two high school class
scenes? I think that there were only one or two
the entire time they were in high school, and I think
that at least one. Mrs. Carson.

Leif (01:30:09):
Yeah, they were, like, outside the classroom, too. They were in the hallway.
They weren't even in the classroom.

Steve (01:30:14):
Yeah, there's no drinking at the schools,
so they can't. They're not going to shoot there.

Clearly.

Leif (01:30:22):
Uh, any other predictions?

I have one.

Leif (01:30:26):
Oh, okay.

I think Callie is going to get her own spin off show.
No, I won't see predictions because obviously I've seen this.

Leif (01:30:37):
The Callie Diaries.

Steve (01:30:38):
The Callie Diaries.
Those two were my big predictions.
I'm going to optimistically predict that we're done
with Elizabeth, at least for a while. I'm hoping.

Leif (01:30:52):
So we never see that
actress again.

Steve (01:30:56):
Yeah.
Uh, she's getting the Scott treatment.
Yes. Only with Scott, it's. We'll never
lose touch because we're a family.
So. Yeah, that. And my other big thing
is Chuck and Blair are now going to war

(01:31:17):
against Jack. So I'm gonna make
this a two way. It is either
going to be Chuck and Blair out,
scheme Jack and get the hotel back,
or Chuck and Blair scheme
against Jack to get the hotel back. But it
breaks them up. So that's my

(01:31:37):
other big thing is that this like
split with Jack that whatever
it comes out to is going to be too costly
to keep them together. That's my. I feel
like they set such a bomb in the last
episode with Blair being so
supportive. I feel like that even though

(01:31:58):
that bomb seemed to be forgotten this episode, I
feel like it's still ticking. Those are my
predictions.

Leif (01:32:05):
Let's get into segments. This week in
Phantom, we jumped into the Wayback Machine to travel to
the fan forums from 2010.
Hello there, Peabody here. And this is the
Wayback Machine for traveling through time. And this is
my boy, Sherman. Speak Sherman.

Steve (01:32:23):
Hello. Good boy.

Leif (01:32:26):
Overall thoughts? They again liked the episode.

Steve (01:32:29):
They loved the soap operas.

Leif (01:32:31):
Yeah.

Steve (01:32:32):
The 2010 fans
love the soap opera shit.

This show had a chokehold
on, uh, everyone when it first came
out. Like everyone was watching this show. It
was so popular. The fashion was
inspired. Like every single store carried fashions
inspired by this show. I'm not surprised that people
loved it.

Steve (01:32:55):
Yeah, I actually there's somebody that
I'm friends with that we talked about having
on the show at some point, but I don't know if she's
ever really, uh, talk to us about it
much. But it was exactly like you said, that
her entire fashion sense was
developed watching Gossip Girl

(01:33:16):
that, uh, uh, just how much of an impact
it had across the board.
Which is why we comment on the fashion
of it. Which my wife again
thinks the funniest thing to hear is me talk about
fashion. But
it was just so iconic that you can't not talk

(01:33:37):
about it. And we can't not talk about, um,
Eric Damon, right? Yeah, yeah, we like to
shout out Eric Damon, the fashion design, the director
of the show a lot because of
especially see the first two seasons. This season
hasn't been as eye
catching, I feel, as the previous two,

(01:33:58):
but it still happens a lot.

Yeah, the wardrobe department, they were also very nice
and they worked really hard on
everything. I've got lots of stories about that too.

Steve (01:34:08):
Oh, cool.

Leif (01:34:09):
Uh, so they also pointed out Agnes is, uh, kind of
like Jenny's Georgina.

Steve (01:34:14):
Yeah, I had that thought of.
She's a Georgina wild card.

Leif (01:34:20):
But specifically Georgina goes after
Sarita.

Steve (01:34:23):
Yeah.

Leif (01:34:23):
Agnes goes after Jenny.

Steve (01:34:25):
Yeah.

Leif (01:34:26):
And they feel bad for Jenny, but they were already
ready to attack her when she inevitably
tries to Steal Nate.
So they're ready to pounce on her.
But someone did point out that Serena lost the moral high
ground on that barstool on the pilot. And also
just a few weeks ago, was going after Tripp, who was a married man.

Steve (01:34:48):
Yeah.

Leif (01:34:49):
Maybe a little bit of carbide on her part.

Steve (01:34:54):
I mean. Yeah.

Leif (01:34:56):
And the potential Serena
Jenny triangle dominated most of the discussion.
Um, but they also hated Jack and his evil
facial hair.

Steve (01:35:06):
He looks terrible.

Who wouldn't?
I don't know how Chuck's mom didn't realize that he was evil. From
that.

Steve (01:35:15):
From the mustache.

From the mustache. Bad hair. Like,
yeah. Like it's supposed to be a very fashionable show. And he shows up
and you're like, eh.

Steve (01:35:22):
Uh, yeah.

Leif (01:35:24):
And then a lot of Ed Westwick praise, as usual.
Moving into the episode grade.
It is my week to go first,
so. Yeah, once again, not a great
episode. The Jenny storyline was
interesting, but definitely made me very uncomfortable at the

(01:35:47):
end. I guess that
technically can be considered good art, but.
Yeah, it makes me realize that I am
happy that they shoot these teen shows with 20 year
olds.

Ah.

Leif (01:35:58):
And not actual teenagers, because that kind of stuff just is
uncomfortable to watch when they're actual teenagers.

Steve (01:36:03):
Yeah, it really is.

Leif (01:36:04):
Uh, I ended up giving this one a D.
Daniel, how did you grade the episode?

Uh, I had a hard time with this, but I think I'm going to give it
a B.

Leif (01:36:15):
Okay.

For the reasoning. The reasoning I have is the.
The acting I really enjoyed, like I was. We
talked about throughout the episode. The lines that I thought could have been
taken one way were acted very nicely and sincerely.
Um, Chuck with his emotion
Elizabeth. Um, Eleanor and Blair
with their mother daughter scenes. Uh,

(01:36:38):
and that's why I gave it the B rating
and the pluses, because I was in it.

Leif (01:36:43):
Fair enough.

Steve (01:36:44):
Fair.

Leif (01:36:46):
Steve, what do you got?

Steve (01:36:47):
Well, I mean, yes, the
scene work by the extras in this was
fantastical. Fantastical. Thank you. I mean, we have to
really point that out. Um, great
work. Especially when you have the acting where
you have to do it all expressive. You don't have the lines
and you just. And it's all pure what you're

(01:37:07):
bringing to the table. Phenomenal acting on the extras
parts, I will say that.

Thank you. Thank you.

Steve (01:37:15):
Um, I gave this episode a C
minus. I love,
love Eleanor. I love her in every
episode she's ever in. I love the
fashion show episodes for
the energy that they bring to the show
and the recurring theme

(01:37:35):
that they have. I hated Agnes. I
hated the Agnes story.
I hated the, um, Dan and Vanessa
Storyline so much. I
hated the Elizabeth and Jack storyline.
These three main storylines. Well, the
two main ones, I hated how they were playing

(01:37:56):
out. I loved the Blair storyline.
The Blair storyline, her and Eleanor.
The callback to Brandeis. Blair
thinking to bring in call girls.
Uh, it's so Blair. I loved
that. And so that saved it from being a
D to me. But that and,

(01:38:17):
like I said, the stellar scene work by the extras.
So I went with a C minus.

Leif (01:38:27):
Moving over to Stockwatch
for me, I had going up. Jack, because even though
he's horrible and the worst, he is
definitely succeeding in what he's trying to do. Eleanor,
because she had artistic integrity and had a
successful fashion show. Nate, because he
saved the day. Uh, it was very close to be

(01:38:47):
another nothing episode to Nate, but he did come through at the
end. I did give Dan up
because even though he was oblivious,
he was basically living the male pornographic fantasy.
Good for him, I guess. And then Rufus, because for
once he was actually. He gave good advice to both his
kids in this episode, I thought. And Jenny, even

(01:39:08):
though things almost ended terribly,
she did come out kind of ahead in the end.
Danielle, who do you have going up?

Callie going up,
definitely. I think we're going to see big things
from her in the future. I
can't get over it. I'm sorry. Um,
yeah. Ah, the Columbia girls.

Steve (01:39:32):
Girl.

We'Re done now. We don't have to do the rest of the podcast.

Steve (01:39:38):
Yeah, we're good.

You guessed it. The Columbia
girls definitely going up. I feel like we're gonna see some more of
them. Blair going
up, just because I always love her and always.
I think I sort of had Chuck
both going up and down, or I guess staying neutral then,
because he was devastated by his mom and

(01:40:00):
losing the hotel.
But he thrives on
having a plan and scheming, so I think we're going
to see him rise a bit more in
the upcoming episodes as well. And, uh, Nate going up
because he's just a great older brother. Everyone else was just,
meh, Steve.

Steve (01:40:19):
All right, I had. First of all, I had Eleanor going up
and Blair. I thought that they.
Even though Blair kind of had a down episode, it was
such an uplifting end for her. I felt like she
got the up. I had Nate going up also.
Good guy. Saving the day. I, uh, had Brandeis
going up. Another successful

(01:40:40):
episode for Brandeis. She has won
both episodes that she's been in.
I had Jenny going up for
impress. Shitty stuff happened to her, but she came
out on top in that episode. I have
Jack going up Because Jack is
winning right now. I also had the Columbia
girls going up because anytime someone's

(01:41:03):
on, uh, on the screen, we give them the
opportunity, they're fair game to get stock. And
I, uh, I love the opportunity to give
stock to somebody who's on our podcast.
So the Columbia girls, for sure.

Leif (01:41:18):
For me, going down, I had Chuck because,
yeah, he was just getting kicked in the nuts all
episode, pretty much. And
while Blair did have her personal gains, I think she's just
too tied into the Chuck storyline. So she also. I had her
going down. Elizabeth, because she
is the worst mom ever on a show of horrible

(01:41:39):
moms. Agnes, because
she is pure evil.
Callie, for going along with it. And
since he was mentioned, I will give Damian a down because
he lost his drugs.

Steve (01:41:52):
Yeah.

Leif (01:41:54):
Danielle, who do you got going down?

I mean, basically, all the same, definitely Elizabeth. She's a
horrible mother. Um,
Agnes is. Is evil, but
she's. She's not good at it.

Leif (01:42:08):
She's.

She's not good at it.

Steve (01:42:10):
She's criminal at it.

Yeah, she's probably the worst. Yeah. So
Agnes going down. Um, and, uh,
what's. What's the guy's name? Caldwell's.

Steve (01:42:21):
Oh, Cornwell.

Cornwell. Cornwell's going down.

Leif (01:42:25):
Steve, who do you got going down?

Steve (01:42:27):
Um, I had Vanessa going down for obsessing over this
rut the whole episode. I have Dan going down because he's
with Vanessa. I have
Chuck going down because,
like you said, just everything kind of sucked for Chuck
this episode. I had Elizabeth going down
because, like, you two already covered

(01:42:47):
horrible, um, Conwell going
down for losing out on a
great business opportunity. And
I'm going to send Agnes down as well
for just being a terrible
criminal.

Leif (01:43:06):
Uh, all right, that is it for Stockwatch. Moving over
to best outfits.

Steve (01:43:12):
But here's the best outfits from the last
episode we see.

Leif (01:43:20):
For me, I, uh, like a good scarf game, so I gave
it to Serena in her black dress and the big red, poofy
scarf. Danielle.

Uh, my favorite outfit of the episode
was Agnes's dress at the fashion show.
So the one that Jenny was sewing. But I also.
I meant to mention this before, really loved. I don't
know if you could see it, but I remember being obsessed with it when we
were filming. Blair had a bow
tied into her hair, so her hair

(01:43:48):
was actually tied in a bow shape. It
was on the left side of her head, and I was obsessed with that. I just thought
it was the cutest detail and, um, way to
accessorize your hair by just tying your own hair into
A bow.

Leif (01:44:00):
So, Agnes, check that out.

And Blair's bow. Uh, hair bow. Yeah. Which
is on the left side, by the way, not the right.

Leif (01:44:11):
Steve, what do you got?

Steve (01:44:12):
I had Jenny in her
outfit at the show tonight. I like. You know, it was
very classic Jenny. The fishnets, the red skirt,
and especially at the end, because as
Robin will say, the coat game,
the outerwear game on this show is so
great. And Jenny had that really cool big

(01:44:32):
puffy jacket at the end too.

Leif (01:44:35):
So that is it for our segments. All we have left
to do is some plugs. But first, Danielle, thank
you again for joining us.

Steve (01:44:43):
Yes, thank you. It was great having you.

Leif (01:44:45):
Yes. And is there anything you would like to plug at
this time?

Yes. So I currently, uh, have
a podcast out as well. It's called still the
Podcast about all the crap still going on
in the entertainment industry for female identifying artists.
Uh, so as you can tell, I am in the industry.
I'm an actor, producer, um,
background artist, stand in on Gossip Girl

(01:45:10):
as well. Photo double. Um,
and yeah, so my co host, Corey Hunt and
I talk about all the things that we as female
identifying artists face every day on set.
How sometimes we're picked just because we're wearing a ruffly
shirt. And, you know, you could be the
best actor in the world, but you're wearing the wrong shirt. So.

Leif (01:45:30):
Yeah, yeah, definitely check that out. I've listened to a few
episodes. Good stuff.

Thank you.

Leif (01:45:35):
I listened to the episode, uh, where you talk about Blake Lively's new
movie. It ends with us.

Oh, it ends with us. Yeah.

Leif (01:45:42):
Steve, you plug in anything this week?

Steve (01:45:44):
I am. So, as I mentioned previously,
I was cast in a feature
length film called Best of this. And if you go
to some of my
socialsvemarshonvemarshon
on Instagram or, uh, TikTok. Steve
Marshon M A R C H I O N.

(01:46:05):
We are currently having a casting call for
Best of This. We're looking for a few more parts
to flesh it out. It'll be shooting
in Philadelphia, outside of Philadelphia
in the fall. So if you check
out my socials and you're interested in
auditioning for this film,
please get in touch with us and we'll

(01:46:28):
send you in the right way and set
you up. Outside of
that, I don't think I really have much going
on. Uh, you can find me at,
like I said, Instagram and TikTok. Steve
Marshon M A R C H I O N.

Leif (01:46:46):
All right. Uh, nothing really for me to plug this week. Uh,
just, uh, go check out still the podcast. And if you
want to follow me on social media, you can find me
on instagram and bluesky
hotcappicola. That's H o t
c a p I c o l a.
And if you want to follow the podcast you can find us on

(01:47:08):
instagram threads TikTok
onnjudging breakfast pod. You can
also find links to our discord server, our
patreon and others things on our website
nonjudging
breakfastpod.com and if.

Steve (01:47:23):
You would like to send us an email, we would love to hear what you
have to say and we'd maybe even read it here on the
air. You can send us an
email@nonjudgingbreakfastpodmail.com
also while you're listening, if you could give us a like
or subscribe or follow
and also leave a comment on

(01:47:44):
Spotify or Apple. I uh,
podcast that really helps us with our visibility.
And finally tell your friends what you're listening to.
Make us your water cooler talk and
go ahead and get back into Gossip Girl
and see what we have to say about it.

Leif (01:48:02):
And we will be back for Our next episode.
Season 3 Episode 17
Inglorious Bastards
I love two S's.

Love it. So good.

Steve (01:48:15):
God damn it. Once again, that means that Inglourious
basterds is over 20 years old.
It just makes me like, yeah, I was in my
20s when that came out.

Leif (01:48:28):
The episode description reads, chuck and
Blair are faced with the most difficult decision they
have ever faced as a couple. Serena has
a surprise birthday planned for Nate. But Jenny
does her best to sabotage Serena's efforts.
Dan and Vanessa's new relationship hits a
bump in the road.

Steve (01:48:46):
Oh, my God. I just had a new prediction.
Jack is going to indecent proposal her.
Oh, my God.

Who? Jenny?

Steve (01:48:56):
No, Blair.

Blair.

Steve (01:48:58):
Uh, Jack's going to indecent proposal Blair
to get the hotel back to, uh. Oh,
of course. We'll see.

Leif (01:49:07):
Until next time. You know you love us.

Steve (01:49:09):
XOXO Gossip Girl.
Every time you walk away run away you take a
piece of me you with you there
every time you walk away or run away you take a
piece of me with you there

(01:49:30):
oh, it seems I'm walking right to
your door
my heart's still resting looking for
something more
are you ever gonna see everything you mean to me
I'm trying really hard to believe

(01:49:53):
every time you walk away or run away you take a piece
of me with you there
Every time you walk away or run away you take a
Never feels right when I'm out here on

(01:50:15):
my own
I left last night and it feels like
way too long?
Are you ever gonna see everything you mean to
me? I'm trying really hard to believe?
Every time you walk away run away? You take a piece
of meat with you there

(01:50:38):
Come back to me,
smile and you'll make my life

(01:51:00):
complete?
Every time you walk away or run away you take a piece

(01:51:23):
Every time you walk away or run away and take a
Every time you walk away and run away you take a

(01:51:45):
piece of me with you there.

Can I. Can you hear me?

Leif (01:51:58):
I hear you.

Steve (01:51:59):
Yeah.

Leif (01:51:59):
Okay.

Did my camera die? Uh, no. It's
charging. Oh, um, no. What
happened? New recording track created
changes in my devices. Oh, God.
Guys, I'm so sorry. Hold on one second.
This. I'm the worst. I'm the
worst.

Steve (01:52:18):
Honestly, you're not.

That's good to know. All right, let me try and turn this off and on again.

Steve (01:52:27):
Have you heard an episode with Shannon?

Okay, let's see.

Steve (01:52:39):
Now, I have to make sure Shannon hears that, so I'm not
saying that behind her.

Cut that out. Cut that out.
Actual recording is highest
quality. Oh, guys, I'm so
sorry. I've disappeared.

Leif (01:52:53):
Well, uh, we still got your voice, so let's just
wrap it up.

Okay. Sorry.

Steve (01:52:58):
Yeah, no, we're at the finish line.

Yeah, I'll give you a headshot to put.

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