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(4:45) Headline: Programmers bore the brunt of Microsoft's layoffs as AI writes up to 30% of its code

(9:51) Headline: Laser-powered fusion experiment more than doubles its power output

(14:12) Headline: Google is about to unleash Gemini Nano's power for third-party Android apps

(17:22) Headline: RFK Jr’s plan to ban fluoride supplements will “hurt rural America,” dentists say

(26:15) Headline: AI Darth Vader goes rogue with profanity & slurs

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Guess which role was hit hardest in Microsoft’s recent layoffs?  The answer might surprise you if you didn’t already know that AI writes up to 30% of their code these days.

Did you know that turning diamond-encrusted, gold-encased fuel into plasma might be the secret to generating a whole pile of energy?  Well, a laser-powered fusion experiment is doing just that - more than doubling its previous power output.

And a local, personal AI continues to inch closer for Android users as Google gives app developers access to Gemini Nano via an on-device AI API.  What should we build with it first?

Sorry, a TIME Magazine Cover Did Not Predict a Coming Ice Age


Programmers bore the brunt of Microsoft's layoffs in its home state as AI writes up to 30% of its code | TechCrunch


Laser-powered fusion experiment more than doubles its power output | TechCrunch


Google is about to unleash Gemini Nano's power for third-party Android apps


RFK Jr’s plan to ban fluoride supplements will “hurt rural America,” dentists say - Ars Technica


Dihydrogen monoxide parody - Wikiwand


The empire strikes back with F-bombs: AI Darth Vader goes rogue with profanity, slurs - Ars Technica


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(00:00):
The Dodgers had the worst luck against the Halo, the Angels.
The amazing. Thing is, the Angels are like
the lowest team in their division.
The Dodgers are the highest teamin their division.
Yes. They should not have even been a
matchup. Yes, and we got swept.
Really. Sweat swept.
My extent of Dodger knowledge iswhen McDonald's pushes me.
The Dodger scored six. You get free chicken Nuggets.
I'm like okey dokey. Sounds great.
That's. About it all it comes back to

(00:21):
food if your sports team isn't yielding me free food, you do
something exceptional I'm just not interested I'm out like
what's the point the. Lakers get you free tacos.
Yeah, and that doesn't happen. Like, why are we playing the
game? Like, yeah, the Clippers scored
two. You get a free steak at SDK if
the Clippers win the game. Quietly tops everybody.
Totally. Palmer's like, what can we do?
How about Wagyu beef if we win agame?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure.

(00:42):
Why not 3? Some of them's good office
dollars. The Apple Company presents a
truly terrible podcast. Welcome to Nonsense season 3,
episode 21. I'm Jeff Parker.
I'm still. This is our take of the week's
business, tech and entertainmentheadlines.
This time, programmers bore the brunt of Microsoft's layoffs as

(01:05):
AI writes up to 30% of its code.Dink, Dink, I see you've been
terminated. Laser powered fusion experiment
more than double S its power output.
From six volts to 9. Google gives app developers
access to Gemini Nano on device AI well.
Now all those Microsoft developers got something to do.
Also our big story later this week.
Sweet amnesia. The comfort and corruption of
nostalgic recall. It was a word salad, right there

(01:25):
was that. Was that some pseudo profound
bullshit you just put there in that title?
It might have been it's NationalRescue Dog Day.
According to the American Society for the Prevention of
Cruelty to Animals, more than 3,000,000 dogs enter shelter
homes every year. Many of these dogs are also a
result of overpopulation due to dogs not being spayed or
neutered. Rescue don't buy your next dog.
Like we just need something for the dogs to do.

(01:46):
Like can we get them making Nikes or or small electronics an
amazing workforce? My dog would happily do any task
you asked of it. If I take my dog to the dog park
and there's a line of dogs beingtrained, as there often is, he
just jumps in lines and trains, jumps in line, Can't wait for
the treat, wants to be part of the pack.
Whatever The thing is we're doing, let's just do it.
We need to get those little, little collars that they had on
up so that Barkley could write for us.

(02:06):
Barkley could write some great jokes.
That'd be great. How is your week?
Going my My week has been lovely.
We had an event at school so I had in my vehicle.
At one time I had both children,my father, my wife, my wife's
mother and our nanny all in the car together.
What vehicle is this big where you were driving?
A bus, It's basically a bus. And my children were fighting as

(02:28):
they have a tendency to do. Grandma's in town.
They're vying for attention. So they're they're they're sort
of going at it with each other. The only way I know to settle
them down in the car these days that works 100% of the time is I
turn on our show. They love hearing our show.
They ask for it all the time. Oh, wow.
They immediately quiet down. So I do this.
The kids immediately quiet down,start listening, and they like
to ask questions and whatnot. Sure.

(02:49):
And I kid you not, 15 minutes into the show behind me, I hear
from my wife. She's like, you've got to turn
this off. I can't do this.
I can't. I can't listen to this anymore.
And I was like, what would you rather have the kids fighting or
hearing my voice? And she's like the kids
fighting. She's like, please turn it off.
I've heard all of you. I want to hear.
Can I just get out? Or let me out of the car.
Pull over. Basically, no, she didn't say

(03:10):
pull over. She's like, I'll just jump out
here. She earned 35 on the one O 1.
We'll be fine. It was a good laugh from all of
us that she literally couldn't couldn't.
Stand it, that's hilarious. And then we had a, we had a full
weekend of kids parties and adults parties and I had all
sorts of birthdays and things toattend.
So I, I don't have weekends anymore.
I just have more work. That was my.
Week. They do just get absorbed, don't
they? It is.
Crazy how time just just vaporizes and disappears.

(03:33):
Yeah, but how about you? How was your?
Week, I won't burden you with this, but I turned 62 on
Saturday. Wait, you won't burden me with
it, and then you burden me with?It well, I won't burden you with
the party you have to attend to.The one where we just have like
a really old man jump out of a cake, is that what we're going?
To do I'm not having a big special dinner you don't have to
attend. Perfect.
But the world's luckiest winningstreak continues.
When you've had the amazing friends I've had for as long as

(03:53):
I've had them and the wonderful family I've had for as long as
I've had them. My dad is turning 91 in a month.
Wow. The only way you can account for
that is pure luck, and I am insanely grateful.
Yeah, luck plays a good part of it still.
Listeners noted that I fell preyto a little falsehood during
last week's episode on falsehoods, I mentioned an old
Time magazine cover story about global cooling bullshit that
people have been using as a cudgel against science for

(04:14):
decades. Still bullshit.
Oh my gosh, these scientists used to believe the Earth was
cooling. Sure, I used an example of how
the scientific method works, like leeches, where science
learns from what doesn't work and moves on.
But the reality is sure, Time never published such a story.
Yeah, I've heard about this global cooling story so many
times I actually believed it existed.
I'll put a link in the show notes, but hats off to Time
magazine for never having published such a story.

(04:36):
Hats off to Time magazine for not doing the thing that was
made-up that we thought they did.
Exactly that's. Great, Everyone's susceptible to
bullshit. This is the problem.
Let's get to our headlines. I'm in programmers Before the
brunt of Microsoft's layoffs in its home state, as AI writes up
to 30% of its code coders were hit hardest among Microsoft's
2000 person layoff in its home state of Washington, over 40% of

(04:57):
the people laid off were in software engineering.
Relatively few sales or marketing positions were
affected. Well, that kind of makes sense.
I mean they do I make those employ more software engineers I
think than any other category, ahuge number.
So that that does kind of make sense.
I have to assume, I have to believe that there is a high
overlap between the software engineers that were laid off and

(05:18):
the ones that like attended A coding camp for six weeks to,
you know, get a gig at Microsoft.
Sure, sure. And and then, you know, we're,
we're making it more efficient. Do you think Microsoft is hiring
a lot of engineers who just wentto coding camp and who aren't
actually good? Coders.
Unfortunately, I suspect they have so many projects with so
much appetite for folks develop software that the bar gets
pretty low when you get down to the the sort of leaf.

(05:40):
Node and you're just hoping thatthose people develop into people
who can actually code or you or you know, a certain percentage,
maybe they will and a certain percentage won't.
Yeah, I mean, I think I just, I think it's really hard to to get
shit done. And they have a whole bunch of
stuff they need done. And now with the efficiency of,
of better tooling powered by AI,they're now like, oh wait, we
don't need as many heads to to get this done.
I think that's a good. Thing, have you coded anything

(06:02):
with using AI? Yeah, it's great.
I mean the assistants that are out there, it's it's kind of
hard not to use. I equate it to trying to write a
letter without using, you know, like like underline, like spell
correct underline. Sure, I can do it.
But what why would I? I mean you can get plug in for
Visual Studio Code that work out-of-the-box and they work
great. But have you actually made a
project that you've put into production?
Are you serious? Product not not cause I've done.

(06:23):
Tesla No, no too. This is my my project is this.
It's us doing this. My kid programs using cursor.
Oh yeah, Cursor. Have you seen, have you seen
this? Yeah.
Cursor's like I've used. It's like little tiny stuff at
home. It's.
Really. Oh, man, it's, it's, I've never
used it, but I've watched him use it a little bit.
It's like you're writing the documentation and magically, and
then you tell it, don't write the code, don't wait the code,
don't I finish this documentation, I get exactly

(06:43):
what I want to get. Sure.
He's got all these things in hisprompt that he's got a, he's got
it just right, and then it writes the code and it's like,
oh wow, that's great. I always start my prompt with
pretend you're a 45 year old male that's never left the
house. You still live with your mother.
He does start off the prompt saying imagine, you know,
pretend, pretend you're a reallygreat coder, whatever.
He says some some magical sentence like that.
They're really. Good, I mean I've had more

(07:04):
experience with Github's Copilotthan anything else.
Was one of the early ones and it's really great.
You you should in theory be ableto get an AI to learn how to
help write code better than anything else initially because
it's such a logical process. Yes, you would think companies,
AI companies would do that quickly.
Open AI just came out with Codex.
Literally just came out with Codex, Yeah.
I haven't used it yet. I need.
To which is their AI. I've looked at cursor, I've

(07:25):
looked at at copilot. I'm I'm super impressed by both.
We'll see where this continues to go.
I think cursor allows you to plug into various AI engines.
It does not necessarily supply the engine that you use.
You can choose. And various IDs in development
environments too, which is also pretty cool.
Amazing. Great.
Yeah, Yeah, it's pretty impressive.
So the part that blows my mind the most is that this is the

(07:46):
worst that's ever going to be. Like it's only going to get
better from here. This is the worst the AI is
going to be. Yeah, it's not the worst the
layoffs are ever. Sorry, sorry, Let me be clear to
the 4000 people lost their job. No, this is not the worst.
Yes, I understand that's not my that's not my my point or the
2000 people lost their jobs. No, my point is from a from AAI
development perspective, it's not like we're going to stop

(08:06):
making this better. It's going to just continue to
get better. This might even be the very
early stages of it still. So that's pretty compelling to
me, yeah. Sure.
Gordon works. That's great.
Thanks for bringing that up. This is the best iPhone we've
ever. Made my point.
Is that there's going to be continued development in this
space we're. Going to keep looking.
At it right? Like sometimes.

(08:26):
It's amazing now. Yeah, it's amazing now and it's
going to get better. If we were on this show recorded
some number of years ago and youwere holding up a 3 1/2 inch
flop and be like they're just going to get smaller and better,
you might actually. Be wrong.
Right. Like there is a point where we
stop investing in that technology.
So. It's like in the future,
floppiness may be no more than one.
Square like no. I guess technically have an SD

(08:48):
card, so maybe that's a terribleexample, maybe that actually is
true, but. All technology gets smaller,
cheaper and faster until it's rendered obsolete.
I guess, well, some, some tech, it's harder to get bigger,
right? Rockets, airplanes, it's harder
to make those bigger. So I guess they do.
Get bigger. Don't you think future rockets
that will take satellites up into orbit will get smaller?
Yes, I think you want them to get smaller, but but it's easier
to make them bigger in some. Well, wait, hold on.

(09:10):
I'm lost to my own analogy. Airplanes is what I was really
starting. But I guess with rockets it's
hard. Like you want bigger payloads,
yes, but it's harder to make. At some point it's just harder
to make them bigger. I want the actual stuff in the
payload to get smaller. I want the satellite course of.
Course, of course, of course. But then you just shove more of
them in there. Yeah, right.
So now instead of a launch having one payload, it's got.
Oh, they do now they do. They'll do 3030, you know,

(09:31):
satellites in a single rocket launch.
It's bananas. Crazy airplanes.
They got bigger and then I thinkthey're getting smaller again.
Well, you know, the space between the seats is certainly
getting smaller, no? Well, yeah, but I'm also pushing
out from the inside on that one.I'm just the fat guy in a suit.
Like in the airplane that's. That's like AI wash these shorts
and they got smaller. My wife's like I just bought
them for you. I'm like, ah, fuck, all right,
I'm just getting bigger. That's the problem.
Laser powered fusion experiment more than double S it's power

(09:54):
output. The world's only net positive
fusion experiment has been steadily ramping up the amount
of power it produces. In recent attempts, the team at
the US Department of Energy's National Ignition Facility Yeah
increased the yield of the experiment first to 5.2
megajoules and then to 8.6 megajoules.
So this is another great exampleof of bullshit because I
remember, you know, no, no, no, hold on.

(10:15):
Let me hear me out, OK? Because I remember when I was
younger and there was like a bunch of scientists or, you
know, faux scientists that came along and said, ah, we figured
out fusion. Look, we just swirl this, I
don't know, saltwater brine or some shit, and more energy comes
out. But like, their experiment was
just flawed, right? Science figured it out.
Science did. Yeah, they went in.
They did some peer viewed they should recreate their experiment

(10:36):
and they just found all sorts ofgaps and and then it was it was
basically bullshit. 2022 we we didn't figure it out until 2022.
We didn't actually make this work.
My point is, I'm still suspect of fusion because I was alive
during that time. I'm like really?
I don't know. I feel like we've seen this
charlatan game before. Sure, these guys seem to have
have like they're they're beyondfiguring out.
They figured it out and are now increasing it's.

(10:56):
Improving it. Well, it's still nuts like this
thing. Yeah, OK.
It generates single digit mega joules of energy, which is
great, but you're putting like hundreds of mega joules of
energy into the system that fires it just to get it ramped
up. It it's a proof of concept.
I get it. You still got a ways to go.
Also, I don't know anything about the tech behind this, but
the little bit that I've read isjust fascinating.

(11:16):
I mean, this is like, remember the movie Contact with with
Jodie Foster? Yeah, of course.
It's like that kind of shit. It's like we're building stuff
and pretty much nobody knows how.
It works well. These guys must know how it
works. They're.
Perfect, they know, but everyone?
Amazes great. It's bananas.
They take this like BB sized fuel pellet right?
Did you see what the pellet actually is?
It's no what is what is the big contest of the belt.
It's basically fucking Unicorn blood, right?

(11:38):
They take this little thing and it's like it's coated.
The fuel is coated in diamonds. It's the size of a beep.
It's a tiny little, tiny little bitty thing.
It's coated in diamond dust apparently, and then encased in
a gold cylinder. The cylinder thing is called a
holler room. It's like this little tiny thing
that they then drop into a spherical vacuum chamber that's
like 30 feet in diameter. That's that's basically what

(12:00):
they do. I got stuck on the whole diamond
encrusted gold coated thing. I'm like is that what what
anniversary is that for? Is that I know the 35th
anniversary? You're buying from David Yurman.
Yeah, exactly, Yurman. That's exactly what it is.
It's like surprise your spouse for their 40th anniversary with
this diamond. Like what makes some?
Energy, but it turns out that's actually really valuable.

(12:21):
Like it wasn't just like a ring ad like they actually do this.
And then what happens when it goes in there is absolutely
bananas. Like they the somehow the the
diamond coating ingests so much energy, ingests by the wrong
term, absorb so much energy. Blasting it with a laser.
Fucking expands to plasma which compresses the fuel inside to
the point where the the nuclei fuse and that's what releases

(12:43):
energy. And I'm like, wait, how does any
of this actually work? It's amazing, right?
And that's so amazing. And then?
I'm like and then I, I fall for like Huxley and I'm like, am I
gonna just have this in my this is a part of my house in 30
years like you just have. This is gonna be how your car
runs, yeah. Fusion generating Oh man, I hope
not terrible. Could you imagine that?
Oh no, you broke the diamond encrusted.
Like I could just see going to the dealership, the BM there was

(13:04):
guy, you fucking broke the diamond encrusted pellet.
That's going to be 20 grand. Like that's just how it works.
Can you pull over into the DavidYurman like?
This absolutely. Oh my God, what if instead of
going to BMW, you go to David Yurman for the fix?
You go to the. Jeweler.
Yeah, go to the jeweler for the fix.
That's even worse. I don't I mean, I laugh about
this. This is amazing science.

(13:24):
I'm shocked any of this works. This is this gave me vibes of of
when we talked about how the ASML lithography machines work.
Well, totally. It's like third standard
deviation to the right of what I'm willing to believe.
Like it's so for sure there. It's nuts, but it's pretty cool.
The amazing thing to me is in 2022 this thing was generating 2
mega joules, right? Yeah, this is 2025.

(13:44):
It's generating 8.6 mega joules.This is the same, it's the same
pellet being blasted with, you know, some variation of the the
lasers. That's absolutely amazing it.
Just keeps getting better and smaller.
You like to point out that's what technology.
Does. Oh, it's completely obsolete.
Yep. And let me move on to the next
thing, 8 inch to 5:00 and 2:45 and a half to 0.
That was basically the progression.
That's what I'm going to tell people.
Whenever people tell me technology keeps getting better,

(14:05):
I'm going to remind them of thatsequence.
It's like a share. Instead of calling the Fibonacci
sequence, we'll call it the Parker.
Sequence. Nice.
That's what, that's what it'll be.
Google is about to unleash Gemini Nano's power for third
party Android apps. Google is expanding access to
Gemini Nano, it's on device AI model through new ML Kit Gen.
AIAPIS. The new API is likely to be
announced at IO 2025 will enabledevelopers to easily implement

(14:28):
features like text summation, proofreading, rewriting image
description generation in their apps.
AI happening on device, That's really cool.
This is actually really cool. This is.
This is not their first edge based API for AI, sorry API
application programming for artificial intelligence.
But what's cool about this is the devices that it's supported

(14:50):
on. So their their previous AI edge
SDKI think only worked on Pixel 9, so only on their their more
recent higher end devices. This is a much wider range of
Android devices that it supports.
This will work on Pixel 10's andPixel 9.
No, I'm making that up. I have no idea.
I mean, it would, it probably will, but I yes, the joke is not
lost on me. This used on everything in the

(15:11):
picture. No, this is really cool.
This is what we're gonna continue to see for sure, which
is AI on the edge, which solves a lot of the immediate data
privacy problems around AI 'cause you're not running it on
the edge. And these things are really.
Good. Is my phone gonna just gonna get
extraordinarily hot? Extraordinarily hot?
Am I going to vaporize diamond dust?
Exactly. You're gonna.
Have a little station power generator right in your pocket.
No, I mean, that's what's what'sgreat about this new hardware

(15:33):
being all-purpose built for this, it's pretty efficient.
I mean, you are gonna certainly consume more power doing it
locally, but my my hunch is we're gonna to see improvement
on this both from optimizing thesoftware and optimizing the
hardware. Yeah.
And increasing the hardware. So this is really cool.
And the stuff that they're putting into this, what would
you say? Like text summary?
Yeah. Proofreading, rewriting.
Yeah. During descriptions or, or doing
like image generation. This is great.

(15:54):
Let me just back up. It's most of the stuff most
people are doing when they exactly.
Which is what's so cool. And they're doing it locally.
Amazing. They're getting it locally and
you're getting it basically for free, right.
You're getting this part of the effective part of the OS.
Yeah, I'm very optimistic about this and I suspect this is just
the beginning. This is only gonna continue to
increase in scope and feature set and just become truly
democratized. Like just just if your app

(16:16):
doesn't do these things, like ifit's like if you go to an app
that doesn't give you spelling underline, you're like, wait,
what? Why does this even happen?
I think you're gonna see. I don't.
Think I don't think there are any such things that exactly
exist. Anymore it's such it's table
stakes and I think this is gonnaup table stakes very quickly.
Well. No, I think the OS does it for
you. I don't even think the app does
it anymore. Oh no, I occasionally run into
some app that like I can't copy and paste out of and all I wanna

(16:38):
do is throw my phone through thefucking window.
Like what? Sure.
Like why have you gone out of your way to ban this?
So they implement some control that's non standard.
Like what? What what were you thinking?
Yeah, this is great. I'm I'm a big fan.
You're gonna see more and more of this.
And I'm sure it's great that that Gemini's done this with
nano. I'm sure in a year or two Apple
will be the first to do it with their small AIML system.
They don't have a big AI, let alone a small.

(16:58):
AI yeah, it's not important. I'm just saying they'll be the
first to do it with their new Apple Pico Pico.
AI, it's amazing. It's amazing.
Everything that Apple does, theyalways say that it's amazing.
It is. It's gotta be like a drinking
game on that that WWDC every time they say it's amazing about
their own. Shot Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. And then all of a sudden 120
people have kidney failure. Immediately.

(17:19):
Liver failure Liver failure probably liver failure, liver
failure What are their organs isgoing to.
Fail RFK Junior's plan to ban fluoride supplements will hurt
rural America, dentists say the US Health Department under
Robert F Kennedy Junior plans toban prescription fluoride
supplements for children. Prescription fluoride
supplements they want to ban, citing potential harm to the

(17:39):
microbiome, despite recommendations from the ADA and
AAP for the use in preventing tooth decay for children lacking
fluoridated water. OK, so let me just take a step
back for a second. The guy who tells us not to take
medical advice from him has now told us to to to take medical
advice in the form of not using prescribed fluoride supplements

(17:59):
from doctors. He's not just saying don't do
this, he wants to ban it so you can't take it the.
People that get together that are the ones who would most,
let's just say potentially benefit from this have said
don't do this. Like, yeah, if you want to think
about big dental, the best thingyou could do is be like, you
know what? They need more sugar and less
fluoride. That would be the best thing.

(18:20):
Exactly. For revenue for Big Dental?
Brush your teeth. Come in and let us fix it.
Big dentals like please don't dothis.
This is terrible. This is not what we need.
And it's it's really fascinatingto me there the the cited
evidence was not even weak. It was below weak.
It was a, a, a quote. I didn't dare.
It's called a study. Nothing.
But it's where they talked about, OK, at a certain level,

(18:41):
they suspect you could see damage to the microbiome.
Suspect could see damage to the microbiome.
Back back up one second though. Florida.
Florida and Utah have both banned water fluoridation.
So you don't even have it comingin the water system now.
So if you don't have these supplements, these fluoride
supplements, yeah, you don't have fluoride in your in your
mouth, in your kids mouth. So now you have no ability.
You're not. You're not getting it in mass.

(19:02):
All right, So now you've got a supplement it somehow, which
which some people can do and should do.
And I would actually argue big picture, that's probably the
best approach. The best approach would be to
not have it in water and have everyone get it through a
supplement. Here's the problem.
Not everyone can afford that, and that's part of the problem.
Also, if it's a supplement, you have to think about it.
If it's just in the water, you have to think exactly back up
and say what the problem with fluoride is, is this fluoride

(19:23):
will kill you. Chloride is extremely dangerous.
Hundreds will absolutely kill you.
So you have to be very careful about putting in water like you
don't want the the, the portion of fluoride to water to be 99%
fluoride, 1% water. That will be bad.
No one's ever done that. No one's ever done that in the
history of space and. Time, yeah, it's up there.
This fluoride is up there with dihydrogen monoxide 'cause that

(19:44):
will which will. Kill you also.
Yeah, of course you can see. Too much of that that will that
will absolutely kill you. For those who don't know,
dihydrogen monoxide is what we like to call water.
And if you drink too much water,you will die as it turns.
It's hard to do. It's turns out it's really hard
to do, but you could actually do.
It yes so you know everything ingeneration so there's been no
data at the levels that we see fluoride in drinking water in

(20:06):
the US there has been no data that shows that it has any
harmful impact on anyone including kids in.
Fact. It's quite a positive impact.
It enhances re mineralization ofthe tooth when acids produced by
bacteria in turn attacks the tooth, The tooth enamel.
Fluoride in the mouth, from toothpaste, water, whatever
helps rebuild and strengthen theenamel.
And then we have what what I suspect are, you know, ansidotal

(20:28):
but still ansidal data points where other communities that
have pulled the fluoride out of their drinking water have seen,
oh, who would have thunk an increase in tooth decay in those
communities? Oh yeah.
So you're like, oh, well, that sounds not great.
Maybe it's big denture. Maybe this is all big denture
that's behind they're going for the end game.
So the day I hadn't thought of. That.
Sure, it's Big Denture is reallythe one.
It's the ghost of Wilford Brimley who's doing all.

(20:48):
This all those communities who banned years ago, who banned
fluoride from the water, they all, like 15 years later,
scrambled back and put fluoride in the water very quickly once
they figured out what they had done.
Yeah. Who was it?
It was DeSantis, right? The governor of Florida, he had
said, yeah, using fluoride for your teeth.
OK, that's fine. But forcing you to drink it is
forced medication on the people and that they don't have a
choice. And I was like, does Ron know

(21:09):
that you can get water in bottles and that for 200 bucks
on Amazon, you can get a water, a water filtration system at
home that will take it out? Like it's not fucking magic,
dude. Also, don't take it out.
Your kids need it. Need it totally.
Yeah. So, you know, so I gotta believe
the percentage of people who don't want fluoride in their
water can almost certainly afford $200 filter to take it
out. The percentage of people that
need and most benefit from Florida in their water can't

(21:32):
afford to put it in. I got to believe that that's
that's true. Yeah.
And. And probably aren't going to the
doctor where they could get the prescription for the supplements
anywhere. So that just seems like a really
shitty position to be in. And then again, if you go back
to the data, if you get away from the whole, like I suspect
the rich can afford and the poorcannot, if you get back to the
whole, like, does it help or hurt?
All the data seems to show that it only helps and that there's

(21:52):
really no hurt at the levels that we put it in.
We and we have a lot of data. We have an enormous amount of
data. We've been doing this for a lot
of years. So I suspect in September when
we get the quote results from the autism study, I'm pretty
sure that RFK will tell us it was fluoride all along.
That's my that's my hunch as to.What we're going to see, he's
going to tell us what causes autism.
That's what I've heard, yeah. It's going to be fluoride.

(22:12):
You think fluoride? That's what I suspect you you
don't think it's going to be thewhat's the the vaccines, the
multi vaccine? I think it'll be.
Fluoride and sunscreen. I suspect sunscreen part of it
as well. Yeah, sunscreen.
Big sunscreen, man. That's true, I thought.
Of that, yeah, that's where I suspect this is going.
I this earlier the I'm. Pretty sure it's dihydrogen
monoxide. Gonna say so this dihydro
monoxide. For those of you that don't
know, this is one of my favoritejokes that was popularized by

(22:35):
the Internet of all time and it actually starts long before
that. The first reference I could find
was from the early 80s. Where they had basically, like,
ran this piece on April Fool's Day that said that, you know,
the hydro monoxide, you know, was the death of a, of a bunch
of people. Sure.
So this goes back to, yeah, 1983.
There was an April Fool's Day edition of a weekly newspaper

(22:56):
somewhere in Michigan. And they reported that, quote,
dihydrogen oxide had been found in the city's water pipes and
warned that it was fatal if inhaled and could produce
blistering vapors, which I thought was fucking hysterical,
Right? Like steam, you inhale water, it
could kill you, and the steam can certainly blister your skin.
So haha, it was this joke. Now you said the hydrogen oxide,

(23:18):
did you mean the hydrogen monoxide or is it, is that the
same? Thing they said the hydrogen
oxide, yeah, I think later to make it sound even more scary.
Clear. Yeah, monoxide being 1, you know
the joke. Was right HTO.
By Hydrogen 22 Hydrogen, Yes, H2O.
But the first sort of modern Internet parody of this was at
UC Santa Cruz. There you go following an on

(23:40):
campus posting a News Group discussion in 1990.
And that's where they they sort of put this out.
I think it was the version of the period it was.
It was inspired by housemates that were all attending UC Santa
Cruz at the same time. And it was received more
attention later in 1997 when a 14 year old student gathered
petitions to ban quote DHMO as the basis of a science project

(24:00):
titled How gullible are We? I I think that is absolutely
brilliant. I need to look up and see where
that guy. Loves this kid.
Loves. This kid.
So he put in in in Jackson's 1994 publication for UC Santa
Cruz included these following warnings.
Dihydrogen monoxide is also known as hydroxyl acid and is
the major component of acid rain, which is hysterical.

(24:22):
Because it's the water part of the acid rain.
Component of acid rain and that it contributes to the greenhouse
effect and that it may cause severe burns.
I mean, it's so fantastic that they took water and twisted it
into this thing. Oh by the way, despite the
danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used as industrial solvent
and coolant in nuclear power plants.
Sure. In the production of Styrofoam
as a fire retardant. That's awesome.

(24:44):
How do you? How is this not the funniest
thing you've ever heard? I I view this to me as a great
analog to the whole yes, fluoride 100% will kill you.
Do not go do lines of fluoride folks.
It's not good for you. That's not the way you should be
causing. Small doses it will save your
teeth. Turns out it's super helpful.
So you know, at the end, this isone of those things that is

(25:05):
certainly going to hurt folks, especially in rural America that
can't afford alternatives and don't go to check UPS that don't
get good advice from from doctors and dentists.
So this is a this is a bummer. Well.
Not only that, I mean, they're trying to ban prescribed
supplements. I mean, that's just so even if
you went to a doctor, even if you were lucky enough to go to a
Doctor Who wanted to prescribe this for your teeth, Yeah, this

(25:26):
would ban him from being able todo that.
Again, I'm I, I like having an oversight body to say this thing
here is harmful, we need to ban it.
I think that is a net positive thing.
You want that? It's hard already.
Get information out to doctors at the edge and know that this
particular drug that's supposed to be a sinus decongestion is
also causing heart attacks. Sure, sure, that's good.
You want that in place. As it turns out though, the

(25:47):
people that actually study this have said no, please.
Don't here. That's not there's no scientific
reason to do this this way. So what?
What do I know? I had a friend a million years
ago who used to say you can't eat any of the stuff that has
those chemical names. When you look at the ingredients
something, it's those chemical names that they just avoid.
All that would all be safe, yeah.

(26:07):
Then you'll be fine. And they died of a kale
overdose. That's.
What happened? They died of dihydrogen
monoxide. Hydrogen monoxide poisoning.
The Empire Strikes Back with F Bombs AI Darth Vader goes rogue
with more profanity and slurs For a short period of time on
Friday, Darth Vader could drop Fbombs in the video game Fortnite
as part of a voice AI implementation gone wrong.

(26:28):
So I would say gone right is thewording I would have used that I
wrote this. I would say this is spectacular
and just just hear an uncorked James Earl Jones do some do some
swing caring to me is pretty fantastic.
But the the TLDR on this is somelike streamer who who I can't
get over this name. Her name is loser fruit was was
interfacing interacting with with this AI Darth Vader, and

(26:51):
she basically got it to repeat aswear word back to her and then
probably freaked out. It's like a 32nd video.
I'll put it the link. I couldn't even get through
without wanting to stab my ears out and I just realized I'm an
old grumpy man. I can't even watch this, but
it's kind of hysterical behind it, I think.
Because what's really interesting, which is that
before James Earl Jones died, hedid license the use of his voice

(27:12):
for Darth Vader. Star Wars, yeah, for.
For for which I think is kind ofawesome that he did.
That I hope his estate got a lotof money for that.
I kind of. Believe they did.
And like my my initial view was like it's an asset that if you
don't sell for something, even for a dollar, you've got no
value if it's just going to go to 0.
But I do think his is. Pretty iconic, but in his case
it's very valuable. That voice is so great.
And he's got and he's got so many voice samples out there.

(27:34):
I'm sure you could read those all in post mortem and still get
a great, great voice print anyway.
So if you want to hear Darth Vader say fuck, you can do that
here in this this, this clip here I'll link to put in the
show notes. A show.
OK, enough of the headlines. In fact, enough of the episode.
We have to get out of here. Special thanks to our Florida
director, Steve Warwick. Thanks.
Loser fruit. We'll be back later this week
with our big story, Sweet Amnesia, The comfort and
corruption of nostalgic recall. Until then, thank you for

(27:56):
listening to all this nonsense. I'm Jeff Parker.
I'm. Aloha Nui.
Oh great, now I'm hungry. Good news.
Jeff, what's going on? It's.
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Fantastic. All right.
What year? That's tough.
Sound Blaster Pro. I probably had one of those in
NT 35. So OK, my guess is 94.
I don't really. Know well you didn't have NT in
94 first of. All NT35NT. 35 isn't.
That 94 it was. Like 9596.
I could be wrong. We argue about the worst
possible things. Hold on, I don't truly remember.
Oh. Daddy is right again.

(29:43):
General Availability for WindowsNT 3.51 May 30th, 1995 Oh, there
you go. But you're very close, got to be
around 9594. So we.
Actually guess 9494 is the rightyear.
There you go, I just got stuck on the NT 3.5 thing.
Once again Jeff, you nailed the year.
You have an index of time that is better than anyone else,
including Wikipedia. I just call you up with your
infallible non nostalgic memory.Fantastic.
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