Haunting Hour with Mike Ricksecker

On this episode of Haunting Hour, we are joined by author, parnormal researcher, filmmaker, and U.S. Navy Veteran Mike Ricksecker. Mike has been featured on media like History Channel's Ancient Aliens and The UnXplained, Travel Channel’s The Alaska Triangle, and Discovery+’s Fright Club, among many others. He recently released his new book, Travels Through Time: Inside the Fourth Dimension, Time Travel, and Stacked Time Theory, an examination of the nature of time, dimensions, and the possibilities of real time travel. We sat down and spoke with him about concepts in his new book as well as his show, The Shadow Dimension.

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Episode Transcript

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Down this road is a small cityone's thriving and full of life, but
now desolate and abandoned. Well,abandons say for the horror's rumored to reside
with it, which I presume iswhy you're here now. There's nothing wrong
with a little morbid curiosity, butplease remember to stay close to your guides.
We wouldn't want anyone to get leftbehind. Now. Hello tourists,

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and welcome back to our lovely city, Nopeville, the city filled with all
the terrifying and horrible things that makeyou say nope, nope. We are
your tour guides. I'm Jen andI'm Christine and on this special episode of
Haunting Hour, we are joined byauthor, researcher, filmmaker Mike Riczecker.
During our interview, unfortunately we hadsome technical issues and it did not record

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the first five minutes. So we'regoing to do a brief summary of what
happened during those five minutes, whichthankfully you can actually get his version of
it through his book, which wewere talking to him about throughout our episode,
as well as his show Shadow Dimension. Yeah, so the book that
we sat down and talked with himabout is his latest release called travels through
time inside the fourth dimension time traveland stacked time theory. And this is

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the first in a series he's callingConnecting the Universe, and he's been a
researcher for thirty plus years yep.And originally got into the paranormal because as
a child in his childhood home inMassachusetts, he encountered a shadow figure in
his bedroom and it was different thanyour typical sleep paralysis thing because this thing

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actually interacted with him. It tookhis arms crossed it across his chest,
almost as if in a coffin yep, and he couldn't move and the thing
ran away. Yeah, it sawthe panic in his face and ran out
of the room, which enabled himto be okay enough to move. Years
later, he and his family movedto Ohio, where he encountered yet another

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shadow figure, which sort of hada tendency to sort of peek around corners
at him, And in a conversationwith his mom, he discovered that she
also sees this shadow figure. Butwhen he asked her issues kind of like,
oh, yeah, I've seen it, which you know as a younger
person, that was kind of aoh okay, well, I mean,
doesn't scare my mom, so Iguess, I guess I can be okay

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with it. So he nicknamed itTom, like peeping Tom, and played
little almost games with it, saidhi to it, you know whatever,
that type of thing. Had asort of playful relationship with it. And
the interview that we did record picksup when he went to his friend Laurie's
house and all the paranormal activity thathappened there. Yeah, so essentially his
first ever ghost hunt. Yeah,So, without further ado, go ahead

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and enjoy this special episode of HuntingHour. Laurie's house. She lived in
a in the downtown area of oursmall town, old historic house, and
we were just, you know,I mean, we're teenagers shooting the breeze,
talking teen drama that sort of thing, and all of a sudden,
she says, you know, Ithink my house is haunted, and David
and I are like, ooh,this is what it's haunted about it.

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So, you know, she's tellingus about the old family family cemetery that's
in the backyard and different things thatare going on around the house. But
her main concern was her bedroom upstairs. This wall in her bedroom where anytime
she would put something on the wall, you know, she's tacking up posters
and stuff like that teenagers. Yeah, yeah, exactly, but they would
always fall down, like an hour, a day, a week later,

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whatever. It would always fall downno matter what she did. So it
was, you know that kind ofquote unquote haunted wall. Okay, well
normally it's the whole house, notjust a wall, but you know,
right well there are things going onin the house. That was like her
main third. Yeah. Yeah,So David and I are going to go
check this out. We're going toinvestigate. No idea what we're doing.
This is like nineteen eighty nine.You know, there's no ghost shows or

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anything like that on. There's noInternet to look this stuff up. It's
like, we're gonna go check itout. I had read some Hansolser by
then, so I was I wasa bit familiar with his work. So
we go upstairs and you we're takinga look at the wall, and Laurie's
telling us some more stories. AndI didn't know this about David at the
time, but he was a verysensitive type of guy, meaning like spiritually

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sensitive. And he put his handflat to the wall like that, and
he started turning this bright bright redand started sweating profusely. I'm looking at
David like, oh my gosh,what in the world is going out with
my friend? Yeah, never seeanything like this before in my life.
And so he starts going like wallto wall around the house trying to find
some you know, quote unquote hotspots, like more of these a pipe

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of walls. And that was reallythe moment that I knew that I had
no idea what this was. Ididn't know that we were, you know,
started our own little you know,mini paranormal investigation or anything like that,
you know, that's what we weredoing. But I knew that,
Okay, this is truly fascinating.Somehow, some way, shape or form,
I'm going to be involved with thisfor the rest of my life.

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It shows you yeah, yeah,yeah, the universe kept steering me in
this direction. So like I've alwaysbeen, I've always been a writer.
I've been writing since I was sevenyears old in second grade and I was
writing little mystery stories. I didwrite some uh some little spooky stories too,
and I was doing like historic fiction. So you know, growing up
in Massachusetts, there's a lot ofuh, you know, revolutionary war history

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that we're taught as kids. SoI'm writing like little stories of George Washington
and his lieutenant, you know,having this conversation back and forth while the
bouts are going on. I gotlittle stick in yours. That's what you
do at at seven years old.Yeah, in my first book. You
know, through the years, asI continued to write, my first book
was actually a mystery novel, butthe universe kind of course correcting me and

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steering me in a certain direction.My second book really kind of fell into
my lap, Ghosts of Maryland.My editor for that book and a couple
other books that I did with thatparticular publishing company said hey, I this
is how far back it was.This was on MySpace. Yeah. She
said, hey, I know you'rea fiction writer, but I see that

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you do have an interest in theparanormal as well, and we are are
we are expanding our line of paranormalbooks. I see that you live in
Maryland. We need somebody to doa book from Maryland. Would you be
willing to do that? I prettymuch jumped right on that. That's just
absolutely and that's where things kind of, you know, steam started steamrolling from
there with several books of paranormal naturethat I started writing and now it's gotten

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more into like, you know,the esoteric knowledge, ancient wisdom. Yeah.
I have the time Travel book outnow, which is the start of
the Connecting the Universe series. Soyeah, the universe will try to steer
you in the direction of believes youneed to go. Yeah, we've been
noticing recently definite experience. Yep.Do you still dabble in fiction writing at

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all? I'm just curious. Ido a little bit. So, so
that particular book does have a sequel. It's a you know, it was
a private detective novel I did afew years back. Well, okay,
there there were two other writing ventureswith that. One. The the third
book of that series, which Igot maybe about five or six chapters into,

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I had him being hired by aparanormal investigative team. Yeah exactly.
And then a few years ago Istarted meshing the time travel stuff into that
world. So I had produced afew episodes of what are called the Time
Channeler Chronicles, and so basically therewas it was like the Apocalypse of the

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supernatural was happening in his tone inthis one being yeah, he was being
grabbed into this and oh, bythe way, there was a time travel
component as well where people can movein and around time and so yeah,
so basically there were some short storiesthat I had written. The website is
still out there, Time Channel orChronicles. I had a friend of mine,

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Adam Tillery, who's done a lotof artwork for my books. He
did some illistrations for it, andthen we did some like putting some audio
over the top of it and throughthose out there on YouTube. But you
know, life just got kind ofcrazy and hecticing. I was taking on
too many projects, so that's hitthe back burner. But I haven't really
told anybody this yet. I havestarted outlining that type of a storyline into

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another work COO. So it's ina very very early stages. So yeah,
I'm still interested in some of thefiction aspects. That's one. What
is stacked time theory? Can youkind of educate us about that a little
bit? Yeah? Absolutely, sostack time theory, which is you know,
the big, you know, centralcomponent of travels through time. When

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we talk about this, we firsthave to really understand what time is.
You know, time doesn't really exist, It's it's a human construct, something
that we've devised. It's a measuringtool we've come up with to to figure
out, Okay, when do weplant the crops, when do we show
up at work at the right momentsso our supervisors don't get upset with us,

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that sort of thing. So ithelps us with keeping track of our
day of life. Yeah, yeah, exactly, so, which is a
good thing that it's very helpful insociety and all that. But it's it's
a concept that we have come upwith. So when we look at time,
we think of, okay, youknow, naturally, the river of
time is the analogy that we've alwaysbeen given, and it's and it's a

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good analogy if you look at timeas not the whole river, but the
water that's within it, and thatwater what's making it flow isn't the water
itself, it's actually the banks ofthe river that it's holding everything in place.
If you were to remove those banks, everything would spill out and just

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become like a giant pond or agiant lake, and everything, all the
water would be there all at once. That's essentially what we're talking about here
with our universe is that all timeis here right now, past present,
in future. It's all concurrent.So the way I look at it,
and it has a lot of similaritiesto what Einstein had in his idea of

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the block universe, everything being allthere. So if it's all there,
take each moment that we experience,all of those moments like right where you're
sitting, right now, past,present, future, all those moments like
a photograph within a very very tallstack of photographs. Now, there are
times and occasions where, because everything'sfrequency resonance energy, there are occasions which

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two of those photos in the stack, two of those moments will resonate the
same frequency for a brief moment,and we'll get something that will call a
time slip. And it could verywell be what many of these hauntings and
supernatural experiences and things like this are. Is really what we'd really call it,

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a time related incident. So that'sinteresting with the frequency resonation. So,
like your friend, I'm a littlebit sensitive to spirits, and I've
described this exact failing to Christine beforethat when I feel like something is in
the room, I feel like I'mvibrating. Yeah, So I wonder if
that's like the putting myself on thesame frequency, or whatever is in the

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room is putting itself on the samefrequency as myself. Yeah, absolutely,
Yeah. We all have a weall have a personal resonance, we all
have an energy, we have awhat's actually a toroidal field of energy that
emanates out from us. So that'swhy. Yeah, you could have your
back turned to a doorway, youdon't hear anybody walk into the room,
but all of a sudden, you'relike, somebody here. You turn around,

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you know your friends just walking,yeah, or yeah, you might
not even see exactly. So yeah, yeah, So when it comes to
like real time travel, I thinkrather than like a DeLorean and a flex
capacitor or you know a lot ofthe other different time travel machines that we've

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seen in a variety of different sciencefiction movies, I think it's going to
have more to do with the consciousnessand being able to tune our frequency into
the frequency of these other moments intime we'll be able to travel back.
And the trick is, of course, getting on the right frequency to be

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able to do that, and thenbeing able to hold it and sustain it,
to be able to have more thanjust a slip, but a lasting
experience in that other moment. Right, So you talked about one of these
time slips when you're at the ConjuringHouse. Do you want to talk about
that a little bit? Yeah,yeah, absolutely. You know, really
good friends with the with the parentfamily, especially the eldest daughter, Andrea.

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She and I go way back,and she she's like she's like a
big sister to me. We've talkedabout this before. It's like she it's
like she was a big sister forme in another lifetime and she's still kind
of in that big sister role hereand this was Yeah, it could very
well be. So yeah, TheConjuring House was interesting about this. You
know, we refer to it asthat because of the first Conjuring movie,

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which yeah, probably about two percentof that movie was accurately depicted it all
wrong. Yeah basically yeah, yeah, pretty much, just like they got
the names of the people, right, yeah, not the dog's name,
but the name of the people,poor dog, Justice for the dog,
the dog's name because then they andthey had to change it because the dog's

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name was best Sheheba. Oh,and of course they had to make her
the villain. Aw yeah, andthen Bathsheba, who you know actually was
a person that had lived in thatarea hundreds of years ago. Yes,
they made her out to be tobe the villain, but it was never
it was never a demonic possession exorcismeven that happened there. You know,

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this the haunting there lasted over tenyears. The main the big event with
the Warrens was a seance that hadgone bad. Yeah, they they proposed
doing the seance in the dining roomto you know, try to interact and
channel the spirits there, which whichdid happen because Carolyn caught a hold of
one that basically knocked her back outof her chair from the dining room into

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the parlor. You know, Rogergot all upset ed was trying to get
Roger away from Carolyn. No,no, no, it may still be
attached to you know if Roger punchedhim dead in the face. And yeah,
yeah, never came back. Soyeah, I mean they screwed everything
up for like right, but andthe hauntings continued. So yeah, it

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was a couple of weeks after thatbig event. You know, Carolyn had
you know, she was still feelingthe effects of it, right, and
you know she was she was sleepinga lot, wasn't eating very much,
that sort of thing. So oneparticular night, Andrea was the only one
still awake. She was up toget homework in the parlor, and Carolyn

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had gotten up and had asked Andrea, hey, can you heat up some
of that beef stew that was madeearlier tonight and a short pot of coffee?
And Andrea's like, oh, mom'swanting to eat something. Okay,
great, I'm gonna go, youknow, help and do that. So
Carolyn sits down in the parlor,she's looking out into the dining room area,

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and as she's doing that, allof a sudden she sees morphing into
existence, this family that seemed tobe out of the seventeen hundreds. Suddenly
there's a woman cooking over an openhearth. And that particular fireplace at that
time had been boarded up for thepast one hundred years. But you know,
there's this woman cooking over there,over this raging fire. A couple

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of kids are running around, andthere are two gentlemen sitting at a table
with pewter Stein's and they turn andthey look right at Carolyn, and the
one kind of elbows the other andsays, hey, would you look at
that, as if Carolyn was theghost right. Andrea today calls it,

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you know, really the most significantthing that ever happened there, the most
fantastic on all the inexplicable crazy hauntingsand different things that happened there. This
was really the most important, importantmoment in which you realized that, yeah,
you had the past looking into thefuture, in the future looking into
the past. So one was inyou could say one dimension one was the

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other, and they were able tocross over for a moment and get a
glimpse of each other. So thatis that is really a classic time slip.
Yeah, each experiencing the other asan apparition within their space, and
nobody freaked out and nobody look,yeah, but I think what was really
because the question becomes okay, sohow did that happen? You know what

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activated? What was the catalyst?So we can make it happen again.
And so it's hard to know preciselywhy it kicked off at that moment,
except for you know, like Isaid, you know, they were they
were vibrating at the same frequency fora moment, and so they got a
glimpse of each other. We don'tknow exactly how they got onto those similar

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frequencies, but I believe I knowwhat powering is or at least helping to
power that. And that's the wellroom in the basement, which is directly
below the parlor where this incident happened. And there's a lot of things.
If you just look at that wellroom and take everything straight up, you
can account for most of the majorevents of that house. Like in this

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column straight up for a well room. And you know, the well room
is called that, you know,because there's a well in it that dates,
you know, all the way backinto the seventeen hundreds. They don't
know exactly when it was built.They're not even precisely sure when the house
was built, you know, there'sno accurate records. They have estimated seventeen
thirties, and the well probably goesback as far as then too, because

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of course they would need water.And to this day it's an open well.
There is still water within it.There have been people that have dropped
their cell phones in it, tryand take the out of and then have
to go down into it and retrieveit out of the water. But so,
okay, you have an open holein the ground with water. The
primary construction material of that room arethese large limestone blocks. They're kind of

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almost like limestone boulders. You know, it's not very neatly done, but
they're in there. It's functional.Yeah. And then on top, done
more neatly, are these very largegranite blocks, so you have water limestone
granite. Yeah, it's like aperfect little power play. It's almost like

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it's as glorious as the stuff outin Egypt. But it's a similar construction
material that we see in a lotof temples out there in Egypt which were
built to harness those sorts stuff ergees. Yeah, that's crazy. Speaking on
the Conjuring House, though, youfelt welcome or unwelcome there because I know,
well I know you had a momentof lightheadedness where you had to kind
of stop and take a moment,right, Yeah, that was in Andrea's

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old room where two floors down.Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah,
right above all the power. ButI remember one of your guests speaking
on the house kind of chooses whoit wants and doesn't want to be there,
but it remembers everyone that comes,and there's a channel life all that
that's been there, and they alwaysfeel terrified. Granted that's kind of their
job, and again they feel remembered, but it always felt quote unquote demonic

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to them. Yeah, I feltwelcome. Different people feel different things there.
Yeah. You know, Andrea's bookseries is called House of Darkness,
House of Light because you have bothof those sides to it. Uh,
you do have the lightness to it, you do have the darkness to it.
So yeah, my time there,you know, felt welcoming. You

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know what I felt there in thatroom during that moment, you know,
was energy. You know, Ithink something may have been trying to manifest
there. I did catch that interestingphoto of what I call interdimensional phasing.
Yeah, where everything you look atthe photo, everything in the foreground is
perfectly still, but then from themiddle onward and there's that interior window in

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the doorway, everything is shifted tothe right, and in fact, the
exterior window in that room, whichshould be behind the wall in that photo,
is extended out into the room overthe on that wall. Yeah,
on that wall. It was reallyreally bizarre. So I think that was

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you know, the energy, theenergy manifesting in that room, and we
got to see really almost peer intoa n their dimension that was kind of
offset. So something was trying tohappen there interdimensionally. Yeah, the the
Johnson brothers, Carl and Keith havebeen back there several times, have done
a lot of work out of there. Their original paranormal investigative team Pyro,

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was the team that first investigated thehouse. They are the ones that brought
the Warrens there. And of coursethat's never that's never showed in the movie.
Yeah right, thought there was someoneelse first. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. The Johnsons are like,hey, where are And what's interesting about
that story with the Johnson's. Theyshowed up on the front lawn of the
of that house one day, kindof you just just walking up because they

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had, according to them, theywere called by Carolyn to come out and
investigate the house. They had anadvertisement there in a local paper or whatever
it was, to say, hey, you know, if you have something
going on, you know, we'rehere we can investigate. And according to
them, Carolyn had seen that adand called them. Well, when they

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showed up at the house that day, Carolyn was like, I never called
anyone. I have no idea whatyou're talking about, but go ahead and
feel free to walk around and checkthings out while you're here, right,
So you know, so where didthe call come from? Because the Johnsons
would have never have known a thingabout that house, otherwise if they hadn't
been called, Wow, it's crazythe house. Yeah. And then after

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being there and experiencing some things withthe windows slamming, the shadow smoke,
all that sort of stuff, that'swhen they went down and reached out to
the warrens and brought them out andmade things worse. Yeah, just how
the house chooses who it wance,right, the house called crazy. So
something that I found very fascinating inyour book is you talked about how the

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concepts of doppelgangers might be us experiencinga time slip. Yeah. Yeah,
it's it's really fascinating to get intothat type of research. I believe that
they are a type of time relatedand then because of our lack of understanding
of things over the centuries, overthe millennia, we tend to put like

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evil concepts on top because we don'tyeah, yeah, whatever, you don't
under so, like, okay,so doppelgangers became evil twins the Norse Vartiger's,
uh, you know, these werean omen of bad things that gonna
come there, like a harbinger ofdeath. Really, what the Vartiger was
just okay, you know you see. It. Actually had a woman contact

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me about this. It's just say, you're sitting in the living room and
all of a sudden, your husbandor wife, you know, walks through
the door, how you doing,and walks up the stairs. And then
a minute later they walk in again, same exactly, like, hey,
how you doing later minute? Idid this before exactly. And really it's

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just you can call it like aglitch in the matrix, a glitch in
the way time is working that uh, that moment just gets a kick off
again from you know, free seehe's kicking back up and basically aligning itself
with a moment that is about tohappen. So yeah, the one woman
there from Turkey had shared with methat when she had walked in, her

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husband was on the phone with hisfriend and he's like, what are you
doing? You had just walked inhere and went and took a shower,
and the and the friend on theother end of the line is confirming this.
Yeah, I know this happened.He I heard him talk. He
was really interesting. So those typeof things happen. My favorite story I
have a couple of them, butthe famous famous German poet Guta and he

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recounted this in his book Poetry andTruth, or in Germany's diktungen Vite you
know, and he recovered he said, this really happened to me where he
was walking down the road to Dristenheimone day. He's having an affair with
a young woman in the town,and as he's walking along the road,
he's kind of lost in his thoughtsof thinking about what's, you know,
going on with this woman and whathave you? In the situation today we

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call it zoning out right, Andall of a sudden he notices on the
other side of this road this gentlemanin a gold trim gray suit. You
know. The suit kind of stoodout to him, so he turns to
get a better look at this guy, and all of a sudden, the
guy disappears, vanishes right before him. He whoh the heck, goes out,

(25:26):
what just happened there? I can'tdo anything about it, So he
continues on to Dressenheim. Well yearslater, we're not even talking like the
same day or the next day oranything. We're talking years later. He's
walking from Dressenheim in the opposite directionand he gets to that spot in the
road where he had had that previousincident and he remember, so this is

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where and then he looks down andhe's like, oh my gosh, I
saw myself. I was the guyin the gold trim gray suit. I'm
wearing the thing right now. Isaw myself. I am that man.
I am that, which is interesting, Like, did he did seeing him
influence his dress style? He's like, hey, that guy's dressed pretty nice.
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty sharp. Yeah. I mean from his

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account, he wasn't thinking about it. You know, he wasn't consciously thinking
about it that you know, thisis you know, I'm going down that
road, I'll got a dress.You know, I got the suit or
what. He didn't consciously think aboutthat, but you know, maybe subconsciously
somewhere it was, you know,it was in there, and he eventually
got a suit like that and thenall of a sudden, Yeah, which
would be that's a good point becausethat would be an incident of the future

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influencing the present, which you alsotalk about in your book. Yes,
which I do. He did inthe future actually influenced his actions in the
present or the past to cause himto be at that point later on.
Yeah, So that and that justyou know, adheres to the idea that
all time is here, all timeis concurred. So yes, we can

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influence not only our future decisions,we can influence our past decisions as well.
And that's actually just to throw thisout, that's actually some recent recent
research here that they've been doing inthe lab on the quantum level where they
have been it's only a twenty fivepercent success rate, but they've been able
to via entanglement, make changes toprevious outcomes to create different future outcomes.

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Interesting. Yeah, yeah, so, but yeah, a lot of people
chop that up as a as adoppelganger incident because it's like, oh,
it's it's if you look up liketop twenty doppelgangers on Google, that one
will always show up because it's mseeing himself. But it's not the whole
evil twin sort of thing. Hewas just seeing himself at another point in

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time. And again we got toask ourselves, what's the callous how did
it happen? And so you know, we've got to go all the way
back to the beginning of the storywhere he said he was lost in his
thoughts. It's a it's a typeof meditative state. We do it when
we're driving on the road. Sometimesyou know, we zone out, we
miss our turn, Yeah, howkind to turn around? And so it's

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it's it's a semi meditative state.It's not a full meditative state, otherwise
we crash in the car. Right, But he was in a bit of
a meditative state, and I believewhat happened was while he was in that
meditative state, his energy at thattime was able to tune into himself along
that spot at another moment, andso since he was able to tune into

(28:27):
himself, he got a glimpse ofit. But once he focused his attention
on the person, it broke thatmeditative state in the image disappearing in front
of him, right, Because it'skind of like, if you think about
it meditation or being in a meditativestate, you're essentially letting go of the
entire concept of time at all,which could very well be what you need

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to do to see other points intime is to let go of current time.
It's like astra projection. Yeah exactly. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's
perfect, because yeah, that's that'sthe whole concept that I propose. When
it comes to real travel that Ihave, it will have more to do
with meditation will have more to dowith the consciousness and you know, actually

(29:10):
a machine that will take us there. Right, So no Glorian, sorry,
guys. And I start the booktravels through time in the introduction with
me attempting that when when I wasa kid, after we had made that
move from Massachusetts to Ohio and Iwas homesick, and you know, I

(29:32):
was very familiar with the movie somewherein time in him projecting himself into the
past. Now he did it fromnineteen eighty to nineteen twelve. I was
looking to go a year. Yeah, I wanted to see my friends again
shortly friends again. Yeah, alittle bit more than a year, you
know, because if it was itwas exactly a year, then it would
be the day that I moved.So we gotta do a few days.

(29:52):
Yeah, But yeah, I hadput myself again at that age, having
no idea what I was doing.I had put myself into a meditative state,
not knowing that's what I was in, and I was on the verge
of having an out of body experienceor projecting. I felt the undulating waves,
I felt the electrostatic energy that wassurrounding me, and that's what spooked

(30:15):
me, and that snapped me outof it or what's going on and snapped
me out of it? So,but yeah, I was about to project,
and yeah, the question becomes,Okay, you know where was I
going to project to? Was Ireally going to accomplish my goal of projecting
to another moment in time? It'spossible, right? Or what truly would
have happened if you had just continuedon? Yeah, have you attempted since

(30:41):
I have? Yeah, my mindis so is so cluttered with so many
of schedules like nuts, and Ihave so many projects, so many irons
in the fire. You know,I do meditate on a daily basis.
I haven't set that intention on thoseregular meditations to try to go into the

(31:03):
past, but I have attempted itagain at least to try to project.
And it's I can't get into asdeep of a meditative state as I did
when I was fourteen. I justthere's too many things that keep coming into
my head, coming into my mind. It breaks that concentration. But I
do believe and I do talk aboutthat if you can get into that deep

(31:25):
meditative state, having set that intentionthat this is what you want to do,
then it can help it's like,have you seen the movie About Time
with Donald Gleason and Rachel McAdams.I haven't seen that one. Of all
the time travel, I've seen aton of time travel, but there are
some out there I still have notseen. It's like my favorite movie.
But he's kind of the same thingwhere he goes into a dark place and

(31:47):
he imagines where he's going to beand then he goes there. Okay,
so cool. Yeah, that's that'sthe same concept. Yeah, I recommend
that movie. You should check itout. I'll check it out. I
forget if it's in the book orin your show. You explore the idea
that when we die, obviously,time sort of ceases to exist for us.
And of course everybody knows that energy, the concept of energy, it

(32:09):
can neither be created nor destroyed.So when we die, where does it
go? And the common belief,at least in the paranormal community is that
it sticks around and just kind ofdoes what it's going to do. But
you explore the idea that you essentiallybecome almost omniscient, as it were.
Yeah, to an extent. Sothe human the human being is a fascinating

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individual in that we're multidimensional in nature, so our consciousness is on the fourth
dimension. We call time the fourthdimension, but that's where our consciousness resides
at It resides, however, ina third dimensional vessel, which is our
body. The body, when itpasses, it dies off with the consciousness

(32:57):
it's there on the fourth dimension stillremains now it can hang out here for
a while within the fourth dimension andmove about and explore and that sort of
thing. Like great examples, mygrandfather when he passed away, there were
many people within the family that hadwitnessed him, experienced him that sort of

(33:20):
thing, myself and aunts and unclesor what have you, and my grandmother.
Of course, now when she passedaway, we didn't hear from them
like that. Again, I hada dream visitation from them like years later.
But as far as the you know, your grandpa's walking in the room
and that sort of thing that happenedwhen it was just him, that didn't

(33:45):
happen anymore. So basically it was, yeah, his consciousness, his spirit
hung out here on earth in ourdimension for a while until my grandmother passed
and then they went off somewhere.Where did they go? He was waiting
for her? Yeah, yeah,it was definitely waiting for her. So
is what we call heaven or theafterlife or whatever? Is it on one

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of these other dimensions? Fifth,sixth, seventh We have up to eleven
hyperspatial dimensions. So is it inone of those other dimensions? Or is
it even further outside of all thatwe believe in the simulated universe? And
a lot of our ancient religions talkabout that without actually using the word simulation,

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but they essentially descry what a simulationis. Is it even further outside
that to wherever the simulation is beingrun from? And not sure, but
from any of those higher dimensions,or from even further on and be outside
of all that. To them,time is all concurrent, it's all there,
so they can move in and aboutthose different times. Right, they

(34:52):
actually get to see the stack ofphotos you were talking about earlier, right,
Yeah, Yeah, and brought thatup to bring up We recently were
in New Orleans and we it gottarot readings, And when I got mine,
she told me that my dad's parentswere there. And I wonder who
or what necessarily influences something like atarot reading, do you think? Yeah,

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so when you're doing something like thator any type of reading. Really
you're you're putting those energies out there. You're making an intention be known to
the universe. So yeah, sothose people that have passed on basically they
no longer have the body. Youknow, they pick up on those on

(35:37):
those energies, and I don't knowif they make a conscious decision per se,
like okay, because there are timesthat people try to do that and
they don't get anyone. So Idon't know if they make a decision somewhere
like you know, this is theright time to have a conversation with them
or yeah, or another like whenI had when I had my dream visitation,

(35:58):
I was going through some made yourstuff with with that divorce. They
could have picked any moment in timethere for a couple of years, but
they picked that particular lawn, whichhappened to be a really good moment.
So so yeah, they they know, they're able to pick up on those
intentions, those energies that are putout into the universe, and then they're

(36:19):
able to, you know, fromthat the other dimensions from the beyond come
back into this one to communicate andsee. And that's and that's another thing
is that when we talk like ghostsand spirits there, I would like to
say they're a bit different in function, but we're really talking about similar energy
here. So like again, mygrandfather when he passed, you could classify

(36:44):
him as a ghost at that point, but really it's just him, you
know, his consciousness without the body, and then their energy goes to the
beyond. And it's like a lotof people kind of make that differentiation.
Okay, you know the ghost ishanging out here, the spirit to somebody
that's already crossed over, but thenthey come back sometimes to communicate with us.

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So does that mean okay, they'vethey've gone from being spirit to back
to being a ghost. I reallythink it's just the same, the same
innercy, it's the same consciousness.It's just on different dimensional levels that we're
talking about here. So yeah,it goes to the beyond for a moment.
It's able to pick up those differentmessages and energies that people put out
there, and then they their consciousnesscomes back, you know, for a

(37:28):
little while visit or send a messageor what have you. Yeah, which
I think makes a lot more senseto explain hauntings in the sense that people
always ask like well, why wouldyou stick around to this house or why
does this particular spirit haunt this placeand that place. Aren't they supposed to
be stuck to wherever they passed away, or aren't they supposed to be stuck
to whatever objects? But the ideathat they're just sort of like passing through

(37:50):
dimensions and remember the rest in time. Yeah, yeah, well that makes
a lot more sense. It does, And some people do get stuck like
they don't again without without having likeit's interesting for us to look from our
dimensional plane to the others because wedon't quite understand the construction of it,

(38:13):
because it's beyond our it's beyond oursite, and so there is some guesswork
at this. You try to makesome logical sense out of it. But
there are some people that, youknow, when they pass, they do
get stuck here in what happens?You know? How do they get stuck
here? Well, it mentioned beforethat that I had studied Hans Holzer there

(38:36):
when I was younger, and Istill study his work and what he's done,
and I'm good friends with his daughter, Alexandra. But I remember one
of his investigations there was a littlegirl that was haunting this particular house,
and she had passed away. Howevermany hundreds of years ago. It was

(38:58):
she didn't know how really to moveher energy to the beyond. So she
was kind of her consciousness was stuckhere in the fourth dimension without her body.
She didn't know how to keep goingon. There was another another entity
that was there. It was awoman, and she was not the girl's
mother, but she was essentially makingthe decision to not move on, to

(39:21):
stay there in the fourth dimension atthat house because she felt that the girl
needed some sort of mother figure.So now now I don't know how she
couldn't teach a little girl, thisis what we need to do to move
on. Yeah, So I justsomething that came to my head. How
does the stack time theory fall intothe idea of residual hauntings versus intelligent hauntings.

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I think a lot of the residualhaunts are what we'd call time slips,
ones in which there's not enough ofa connection there where we can really
interact with it and we're just seeingit play out. There's, of course,
the fascinating idea of stone tape theoryas well, where the energy has

(40:07):
been trapped in you know, inthe building. Uh again, we would
we don't know what kicks that off, and that's and that's an interesting idea
as well. But I really thinka lot of these are our time slip
incidents that just have enough of aconnection where we can see a scene play
out. And the greater time slipsare the ones in which we can actually

(40:29):
interact right where they technically see ustoo in a way. Yeah, and
some of them, you know,some of them work like clockwork, you
know, where you know it's alwaysyou know, this particular day at that
particular time and what have you,and it's like, well, there might
be something energetically about that day withyou know, you could talk about the
way the the moon is positioned orwhatever, and you know, the the

(40:52):
energy of the earth pulsates. It'snot but that in itself is not perfect
either. You might get stronger ornot a wrong waves when when that pulsates.
But but that might be something therewhere you know, if it's get
that strong wave, it might varysomewhere with how strong it is. But
every thirty days or whatever and allof some boom, you know, that's

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when we see something. So thosetype of things could be doing something to,
you know, help that connection betweenthe frequencies. I think going back
to the Tarrort readings and something thatI was wondering as I was reading your
book. Can our spirit guides thatyou're reaching out to really be us from
the future influencing our past? Itcould be. It could be, Yeah,

(41:37):
some of those spirit guides could beus. They could be it could
be passing future lives of us thatare Here's the thing is, Okay,
one of the questions that comes up, well, how does you know how
does reincarnation you know, work here? Because I do believe the reincarnation.
Well, if all of time ishere with us now, then yes,

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that would mean our other lives areplaying out right now too. Yeah.
So we're kind of look at theidea of, you know, the simulation
jacking into the matrix so to speak. Yeah, we would be jacked into
all of these different times. Sowhen we have like a daja vu moment,

(42:20):
walk into a location like this seemsreally familiar. It's like I've been
here before, but I've I've notbeen here before. Have I been here
before in another life? Yeah?You probably have been, which is why
you recognize it, and you mayin fact one of your past lives.
Maybe they're actually now it would beright there with you right now, because

(42:45):
when we were in New Orleans,I actually did have a past life reading
and it was crazy because the personthat came to came to the reader was
that past life and he, mypast life, was a man. Apparently
he was talking to the reader aboutall his life and everything like that and
was using the reader as like asa conduit to talking to me. And

(43:06):
it's just fascinating that because I feltlike I'm drawn to New Orleans and I
wanted to know why because I haveno family ties to it, and apparently
that past life was the one thatresided there, so that's why he came
forward. So yeah, that makesa lot of sense. Yeah, absolutely,
I say, Jen, I don'tknow if you want to talk about
your shadow person, Oh yeah,when you so, when I was reading

(43:27):
about your shadow experience and the hatman, I had that same exact kind
of situation happen. So when Iwas younger, probably middle school age ish,
I would wake up feel like theroom is vibrating. I would look
at the end of my bed andI would just see a blob. It
wasn't even a shape it was justjust a blob of blackness, significantly darker

(43:49):
than the rest of the room.And what was weird about this particular situation
is I would only see it thesame nights my brother would. So there
was like one specific time where Iwoke up saw this thing at the end
of my bed, and then mybrother busted in the room, turn on
the light, and he said,I just saw the shadow thing. I
said, I was just looking atit too, right before you busted in

(44:12):
here. But what was weird isafter we moved out of our parents' home
and went our separate ways, weboth never we both have never seen it,
and I just think it's crazy thatlike this one thing only affected both
of us when we were in thesame place at the same time. Yeah,
that's interesting. You know, somesort of manifestation apparently tied to that
house. Yeah, that's a questionI get asked a lot too, you

(44:34):
know, will they follow you?It was like, well, it depends
on depends on the shadow, youknow, maybe, and some of them
didn't, But a lot of timeswe'll see that they are attached to the
house or a particular location. Couldhave been something with the land, Yeah,
could have been you know, whateverin the world was happening on those
days, you know, two frequencieslining up and you were getting you know,

(44:55):
something in there from another point intime or another dimension or what have
you. It's just not it's notfully for me. I do talk about
and travels through time, well,I mean in a walk in the shadows
to talk about all the different types, and you know, the mist is
certainly one of those, you know, and travels through time. I talk
a little bit about how again it'sanother time slip incident where he had experienced

(45:19):
the shadows different sizes realized over thecourse of time. Oh wait, I
was myself the whole time. Butyou know, why did it come off
as a shadow rather than you know, fully formed like Goodsa saw his.
And I think that has to dowith you know, when we're tuning into
that that frequency that does doesn't quiteget the right frequency, so it won't

(45:43):
come off fully formed. But we'regetting a little bit of it. We
have to keep in mind that aretheir eyes only see into a very very
very narrow band of the entire visiblespectrum. So whatever's going on with that
type of energy signature which apparently spreadinto it sounds like your brother was in
a different room, right, Yeah, it sounds like that it was at

(46:06):
least spreading into that room as well, so that you're both seen at whatever
in the world was trying to tunein to. Yeah, and then later
in life, I saw the actualfigure of the hat man. I was
at a sleepover. I was sleepingon the floor and I had my friend
sleeping on the bed and I wokeup and towering over me was a man

(46:27):
in a trench coat and the bowlerhat fedora thing, and he bent he
like bent down to like get acloser look at my face, and I
just put my blanket over my headand wished for it to go away.
But that was something that was crazybecause then you know, going into our
own paranormal research and we're like,that is an entity that a lot of

(46:47):
people see, Like why the hatman, Like why this specific shape?
Yeah, it's an excellent question.And people see see them in a lot
of different forms. I mean,that's kind of like the classic fedora and
trench coat sweat thing. People willsee it without that, like just wearing
They'll see different types of hats liketop hat and cape, you know,

(47:08):
the wide brimmed hat I've had oneperson tell me they saw one with like
an archer style hat, like somethingout of Robin Hood. Interesting, which
is interesting. Yeah, so,yeah, they might be taking the form
of whoever they were at that era. There's there's a lot of different theories
on this, like, you know, they might be trickster spirits that are
trying to take the form of somethingthat we might recognize. But then it's

(47:30):
like, okay, but why alwaysyou know these particular forms, I always
a hat? Why gentlemanly? Well, you know, yeah, when I
get asked, okay, what isa shadow person, There's a lot of
different explanations. There's no one answer. It just depends on that particular shadow,

(47:52):
that particular incident, you know,what might be trying to come through.
We're talking about, you know,several different species using a similar energetic
modality to enter into our plane ofexistence, and it's the way our eyes
are interpreting that light. There's astory that I included in A Walk in
the Shadows about Maxwell Graham, whowas the pen name for the guy who

(48:13):
wrote the Shadow stories back in thenineteen thirties and forties, and his house
in New York years later, afterhe had moved out. People reporting these
hauntings that were there, that wereit was a hat type of a figure
that was in the house. Peopleare getting spooked. They'd see it like
walking along the hallways and things likethis. Some people had related it to

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well, you know, it coulddate back to revolutionary war time and maybe
it's like people started coming up withinteresting stories. It was five, So
Walter B. Gibson was his itwas his real name. So Gibson and
John Keel, who did a lotof the research like Mothman, a lot
of UFO stuff and this sort ofthing back in the day, like in

(48:59):
the sixth and seventies, they puttheir heads together and what they came up
with was, well, they thoughtit was a thought form tulpa that Gibson
had manifested because he spent so muchtime working on that character, to the
point where he had like two differenttypewriters set up in the house to work

(49:19):
on all of this stuff. Peoplewould tell stories about like his fingers bleeding
from doing so much type and justconstantly writing and writing and writing these stories.
That their idea with this was thatno, he had put so much
energy into this character that it actuallymanifested itself in that house, and that's
what people are seeing is this thoughtform manifestation, which it has a lot

(49:43):
of ties back into different Buddhist beliefsand things like that. Of the thought
form, it's like the poulterguys's activitywhen they were talking about the theories of
the young children who can manifest thePolter Guy's activity because of the amount of
like stress and things that they wereunder. Right, Yeah, yeah,
I've been on cases like that whereall these you know, really fascinating,

(50:07):
interesting what we're calling hauntings going onin the house and then come come to
figure out, wait a minute,really happening when she's at home. Yeah,
that's so crazy. So you havedone some paranormal investigation yourself, and
we're very amateur, very amateur paranormalinvestigators, so we always like to get

(50:27):
opinions and stories from some of theparanormal investigators we interview. So is there
a place that you investigated that reallysticks out in your mind? Yeah,
there's there are several. Yeah,I did the parallel investigations for a number
of years and I still do onoccasion, just not as often anymore.

(50:49):
But yeah, there's, uh,there's a couple that really stand out.
My favorite haunted house is Stone Lyingin and Got Through Oklahoma. It's just
a really really classic old house thatwhen you walk up to your yeah,
that's that's a lot of house.We walked into it and it's got that
like, you know, really creepycool ambiance, like the floor boards were
creaky. Becky Luker who runs theestablishment, she does it as a uh

(51:14):
she runs it as a murder mysterydinner theater and then you know, people
can investigate there too when when thetheater is not running. But she's done
a fantastic job of restoring the house. The there was a point in time
where the house where the house wasused as a mortuary, and she has
the old embalming table from that mortuarysitting in the in the entrance hall,

(51:37):
and she'll set drinks and stuff onit for dinner. She has she has
a great story with it though,where when she had first moved into that
house in the mid eighties, didn'tknow the history of it. Her son
comes home from school one day andsays, hey, Mom, do you
know what this house was used fora long time? Below he starts talking

(51:57):
about when it was used as amortuary. She's in the kitchen, you
know, cooking and using this tablein there, and she realizes, oh
my gosh, I've been cooking onthe embalming table. Clean. But I've
had I've had a lot of fascinatingthings happened in that house. The other
favorite favorite, like histore commercial buildingfor me would be the Mineral Springs Hotel

(52:22):
in Alton, Illinois. And that'sAlton is considered like the it's it's made
that the top of the list manytimes, like the most haunted small town
in America. But the uh,the central point is really that hotel.
It's built on top of an oldmineral spring, and the remnants of the
cistern are still down there in thesub basement. It's like a big hole

(52:43):
in the crowd that's been to buildin. But yeah, I again another
place I've had many, many experiences. But you know, the most significant,
which really helped me in my shadowresearch, was I ran a couple
of events out of there for afew years, and in addition to the
para con and the speakers and thevendors and all that stuff, we would
do a nighttime investigation. So we'regetting down to the end of investigation.

(53:07):
The one year there is a coupleof us, left, handful of us,
and we're in the top floor ofthe abandoned part of the hotel,
in Pearl's room, which so confirmedsuicide back in the sixties. Very sad.
She's been seen in there many times. A lot of people do EVP
work there, which is what wewere doing at the time. And all
of a sudden, I start hearingsome noises from out in the hall,

(53:27):
so walk out looking down the hall, and all of a sudden, I
see this smoke start to billow forthfrom the end of the hall. It's
like, is the place on fire. I don't smell anything. I don't
smell anything burning. There's no alarmsgoing off or anything like that. But
here it's coming. It's coming closer, and especially with something really interesting,
starts creeping up the wall the righthand side of the hall, creep back

(53:50):
down, and creep back up,all the while it's coming closer and closer,
And all of a sudden, oneof these times that it creeped up
that wall on the right hand side, it morphed into the apparition of a
little girl, and it's like,Wow, this is fascinating. So by
then everybody else had joined me.There are five of us that saw this
little girl there, and we're allcome closer, come closer. And she

(54:10):
stopped at this doorway in the middleof the hallway in which that particular room
many people had witness and experienced alittle girl's spirit in that room. So
there was you know, teddy bearsand toys and all kinds of things in
that room. But here she wasout in the hallway right outside that she
wouldn't go past that door. Whatwas interesting is even though there are five
of us that saw her, weall saw her a little differently. So

(54:34):
I saw her fully formed from herhead on down to about her knees,
and then she dissipated away. Otherpeople saw her fully formed at like the
feet, and then she dissipated awayby the time it got to her head.
And so that really adheres to theidea that human body we all resonated
a little bit differently. The humanbody resonates about you know, nine to
sixteen hurts, and everybody's a littlebit different on that scale. And so

(55:00):
and even individually we can move inand about that scale a little bit.
So it's like, you know,if I'm resonating at ten hurts. Yeah,
there might be days where I'm likenine point five. Were there times
where I'm like a eleven? Youknow that sort of thing, right,
So, yeah, we all haveour own resonance, and of course the
apparition herself it was resonating at abit of a different frequency, so that's

(55:22):
helped in my research there. Andalso the idea that okay, we talked
sometimes about well, you know,human spirit, they can't fully manifest as
an apparition as some of these shadowentities. Well I kind of saw it
right there where it was shadow,the shadow of smoke at that and it
did actually we actually actually saw themanifestation process of from the shadow into the

(55:43):
apparition. So I helped with myresearch there as well. Awesome. Yeah,
you explore this location a little bitin your show The Shadow Dimension as
well. Yeah, which I recommendchecking out for our tours. Absolutely.
Yeah, the last couple episodes therein the series of The Shadow Dementia go
to go to Alton, to goto the North Springs Hotel. Yeah,
that's a big feature of that LittleGirl m hyah. We're approaching our hour.

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that I don't think we've thought awhole lot about, and we appreciate having
the opportunity to read your book,Travels through Time, which again highly recommend.
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(56:28):
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(58:02):
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