Haunting Hour with Nick Groff

Hello, Tourists! We have a special Haunting Hour segment for you today! We have had the privilege of speaking with famed paranormal investigator, Nick Groff! You may know him as former host and executive producer of Ghost Adventures, who then went on to create Paranormal Lockdown, and is now bringing you his new show, Death Walker. Sit down and have a chat with us as we talk about Nick's new show and his life as a paranormal investigator!

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Episode Transcript

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Down this road is a small city, once thriving, full of life,
but now desolate and abandoned. Wellabandoned save for the horrors rumored to reside
within, which I presume is whileyou're here. Now, there's nothing wrong
with a little morbid curiosity, butplease remember to stay close to your guides.
You wouldn't want anyone to get leftbehind. Now, Hello tourists,

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and welcome back to Nopeville, thecity filled with all the terrifying and horrible
things that make you say Nope,Nope. Where your tour guides. I
am Jen and I'm Christine, andtoday is a very special tour and haunting
hour. We have the special privilegeand opportunity to be joined by a paranormal
investigator whom we've and my tired fora super long time. You might know
him as former host and executive producerof Ghost Adventures, and then he went

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on to host Paranormal Lockdown, andnow he's doing a brand new show called
Deathwalker. Tourists, say hello toNick Roff. Hey, how's it going
everybody? Nick Roff? Obviously,I've been doing this for a very long
time, and you know it's funnylistening to you both say nope. I
always say that when I go intohaunted locations, but sometimes I say,

(01:26):
yeah, exactly. It's a fascinatingjourney that I've been on just explaining the
unknown and looking for the possibilities ofstuff that's in the afterlife and trying to
understand what are these things that wedon't fully can comprehend. So it's just
very fascinating world we live in that'sfull of just weird and mysterious stuff that's
still happening. Yeah, for sure. So obviously for anybody who isn't familiar

(01:49):
with your work, can you maybeintroduce what brought you into the paranormal,
like maybe a specific experience, howlong you've been doing this kind of thing
and that time. Yeah, whenI was about eight years old, I
actually had a near death experience.I felt from a tree ripped open the
whole side of my left arm righthere. I had about one hundred stitches.
I don't know if you can seethat. Yeah, it's pretty not

(02:10):
really looking. I used to jokearound in school and tell kids when I
went to different schools, like thepublic school. When I went there,
I was like, oh, itwas a knife fight or like Jaws did
do the joker thing where you getthe scholars from different things exactly. Yeah,
that's what kept me like kind oftough, so I get beat up
at school. But no, itwas it was a weird journey. You

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know how sometimes you're kind of destinedto do certain things. And I felt
like, no matter if I wantedto escape it or not within the paranormal
or supernatural, I never could.It just was in my blood, my
DNA from early early childhood, andit really was. I mean, having
that near death experience. Kind ofthinking back on it, I feel it
brought me a little bit closer tothat other side. But my grandmother used

(02:53):
to talk to me actually a lotabout extraterrestrials, aliens, UFOs, so
I really got heavily involvolved in thatat an early age, probably round twelve
to thirteen. My sister's godparents actuallylived in Las Vegas, Nevada, and
they used to talk to me aboutArt Bell in area fifty one, and
his father actually helped build the bunkersand would tell him that that he built

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him before he passed away at areafifty one. So you know, there
was like this weird underlining mystery thatI just felt like I need to learn
more on and I was just thatzar kid at a really early age where
I would look up at the starsand say, what else is out there?
It can't just be usperience. Therehas to be something deeper, you
know, when you start going downthat rabbit hole, like Alice in Wonderland,

(03:37):
you just started exploring all the possibilitiesfrom theories, to concepts, to
different people's perspectives, you know,backgrounds, life, and it's just very
it's very fascinating. I think inconversations when you when you speak to people
that are open minded with other ideas. So I think at early age I
was just introduced to a lot ofthat, and then I just started exploring,

(03:58):
you know, hauntings. In highschool. I would like, we'd
hear the story of like, youknow the urban lege. You know,
this house burnt down or something ina family parishes, so let's go explore
it. And I was that kidwith in high school where I'd get in
the car with a group of kidsand we'd go to like, I don't
know, some random house and itwas abandoned. I don't think the story
was very accurate, to be honestwith you, it was close and it

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looked pretty bizarre. So we'd walkup there and you know, we'd hear
like a creek or something in thehouse, and all these like tough soccer
player high school stage would go runningand I'd be the ones in and they're
just looking in, like, well, when you guys running. Yeah,
So I think that's kind of howI started. And then, you know,

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I've always had a passion and lovefor film in general. So at
an early age going to college UNLV, and that's when I went to Las
Vegas and I just want to,um, I don't know, I search
out more stuff. I always wantedto fulfill that part of me when a
child to go to Area fifty one, go to the town of Rachel,
go to Goldfield, Virginia City,Nevada. So I did all that stuff

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in two thousand and one or twothousand, I forget that exact year,
during my spreme break, I justtook my roommate's car and I drove all
the way up to uh, youknow, was broke college kid driving all
the way up to all these hundredmillion towns and checking them out for myself
with my little high a camera.And that's how I kind of started,
honestly, It wasn't for two yearslater in two thousand and four is when

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um I met Well, I metI met Aaron a long time before that,
you know, shooting film, andI met Zach way later he was
a wedding DJ. I met himcrossing because I was shooting videos to make
money and stuff, and I justcalled him up one day. I said,
hey, you guys want to golook for ghosts? You know,
like that's how it all started,in a sense of where we are now
as far as like, you know, our stuff being aired on TV and

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stuff. So that's what it started. I molded that into a series,
and then you know, did Icreate Perma Lockdown and so on? And
then years go on. I justwanted to keep evolving. I hated the
see of like the same old youknow it just after a while you shoot
two hundred locations and then a lotof them are being condensed, but mostly
all of them every other week orbeing condensed for TV and broadcast. I've

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had a lot of experiences like onand off camera in a sense what people
actually see, and I think therecame a point now with Deathwalker, I
want to bring it back to theelements of like that raw, that that
real gritty like what it is whenyou paranormal investigate, like really what it
is when you go out and youkind of have those continuous, long,

(06:30):
dragged out shots. Like my cousin, Justin and is the only one filming
me. We have no big cameracrews. It's just Justin and I and
we hit the road for about amonth and we're filming about ten to twenty
locations and I'm sleeping at them,you know, for two days, three
days, then we'll go to anotherlocation. It's just like a very storage
driven narrative of like an overarching likeconcept of you know, Kennis spirit or

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ghost or something from beyond actually physicallyharm the body or can leave a mark
on the physical party in our reality. So that's kind of like these different
concepts are like let's put them totest, Let's really see, let's get
let's get some new gear, let'swork with some engineers. Let's kind of
push it a little bit because Ifeel like it's so redundant, oversaturated that
we have to do with something alittle bit different, for sure. That's

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kind of how Deathwalkers started with likethese piloted episodes of theories. But then
I took a step back and Iwanted to be a little bit more drivative
on you know, we up thecamera's low light capabilities, We got rid
of night night vision because we're missinga lot in different spectrums. So we
started to dive into the conceptual,like thinking of like what are we missing?

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So I mean, man, wehit the role for about three years,
shooting forty episodes, and then wejust landed our American deal, which
is with film Rise, which youknow, they really believed in us,
and we work with a great agencyand a company called GRB and we're working
with film Rise, and now it'sjust it's blown up. Honestly, it's
blown up. When we just announcedit was it last week or something.

(08:01):
Yeah, on December seventh, weannounced and we just kind of just came
full blasts out of nowhere where theyliked we both binged the first season already.
Cool. Yeah, Because I wasthinking about that, I was like,
I had to go back and searchthe post because I was like,
I swear I saw him post aboutthis before a long time ago, and
I finally found it. It waslike twenty twenty, right, like early

(08:24):
twenty twenties when you create it.To jam, I kind of just put
it out there. Like the firstfive episodes were so raw, like I
literally did all myself, And yougotta understand, it's away from a network,
away from anyone, wait from anymoney backing it nothing, like we
basically reinvented ourselves in a sense,myself and Justin my cousin. Because Justin
and I've been doing this since wewere little kids. I think you gotta

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understand, like my cousin, Iwe we did all the locations, half
of the locations on Ghost of Ventures, a lot of like all season one,
I did pretty much ninety percent ofthe editing, like the filming.
A lot of this stuff is colonelmalLockdown. We did all that too,
But you start to have like littlecruise here and there, you know,
ten person crew in the field.And then Para Malochtam was so gritty it's
like everyone would leave. It wouldjust be me and then Katrina living in

(09:09):
the locations for three days. ButDeathwalker is just completely different. It's so
raw. So we put those fiveout there. But I wanted to do
something where we had a full season, you know, like twenty apps where
we have everything, So we justupped everything and we just decided to just
financially get behind it ourself and goafter it. So we shot the other
fifteen episodes kind of grouped that in. So the season one's kind of like

(09:31):
more of a pilot, I wouldcall it in a sense, because it's
completely different from like if you jumpinto season two, three, and on
even season four. What we're shootingright now is like more cinematic, way,
more put together balance, just completelydifferent. But that's just us perfecting
everything, you know what I mean, to the best of our abilities,
without big budgets, without big crewsand all that other stuff that you see

(09:54):
on every other show. And Idon't want that. I'd rather do it
this way because there's no red tape, there's no Yeah, you know,
like every show has notes to fallback on, Like you have to do
it this way. You have toput a narrative here, and you gotta
say this right, not scary enough. You gotta have those bumps out and
make it scarier. Yeah, I'mlike, we don't do that, so
it is what. Yeah, whilewatching the first season is something I appreciate

(10:16):
it. I did like more ofthe rawness, more of like what you're
actually going to see out there?And and I even commented to Christine after
I finished the first season, likethis is different than normal paranormal shows,
and I really enjoy it, sothat's cool. Yeah. Yeah, the
atmosphere is different and like it's it'sa lot more of like a respectful vibe
where like the music isn't constantly creatinglike a sort of tension or anything like

(10:37):
that that's making people on edge oflike oh my god, what was that
little creek or what was that tap? Like it feels more natural. I
guess it's the best way as well. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah.
Season one is definitely that I think. I think what I learned early
on too is like the first pilotof the episodes of the first five,
like I was trying to compare tolocations with one topic, like one theory

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like time space. But I thinkit's a little like it's definitely out there,
so you're either like in for theride in the narrative of like thinking,
and then all I was trying todo is create a conversation, like
if you walk away from it andyou guys like just start talking about it
over dinner or something. Randomly likeI did my job, because all it
is is it's making you think aboutis this possible? And look, it

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doesn't have to be. That's thegreatest part about it. It's just to
create conversation with humans, period.But that's what all this stuff is supposed
to be about. It's not supposedto be about like I just discovered the
Holy Grail. In all that,here's all the answers that's unrealistic, you
know, Like I've been in somany hundred locations will blow your mind.
I've talked to like geniuses, likepeople with IQ's out the roof, scientists,

(11:46):
people that have died been brought backto life. I've talked to like
people that just don't believe at all, people that totally believe. I mean,
I'm friends across the board of allreligions, all beliefs, all like
whatever, and it's just it's veryfascinating. As a human being. At
the end of the day, we'reall equally in general the same when we
are born into this world and whenwe leave this world. It's just different

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perspectives are just how you're brought up, what you're taught, what you think,
how closely do you stay in thebox, you know, your perception.
But I think that's the greatest partabout life. It's a journey and
we're supposed to experience stuff and shareinformation and communicate that. So that's kind
of like, that's kind of whatI was driving the first five on,
but I felt like we need tostick to one location and go like harder

(12:31):
hitting with equipment, you know,a lot of equipment, pseudoscience, you
know, when you get into thatsecond I think ultimately it validates some of
the experiences you're having, especially audioor communication. If you get into real
itc and if you get into likeinstrumental trans communication or really get into like
heavy into that whole community of whatthey're searching for, you know, spiritual

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communication, then it's it's crazy.You know, it's crazy some of the
time technology we have now, andeven Nicola Tesla was looking at this back
when he was you know, alive, and even Einstein was looking at this,
so some of the greatest minds werelike researching this. It's just it's
how it's presented sometimes. So it'sone of those death walkers, one of
those things where it's like, yes, the first five apps, it can

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be a slow burn or you're veryfascinated by the concept of the communication,
or you get a season two andthree and it's like, here we go.
It's just like like it's just crazybecause I'm sleeping there. It's just
intense. Our locations are intense,and you know, like what was the
location in Lockport there the Western Block? Have you watched that yet? In

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season two? I haven't gone toseason two. Yeah, oh my gosh.
We are so looking forward to itthough it's totally different than the first
season. That's why I said,you know, look, if if you
can't grasp easonone, just jump rightto season two because season and it's I'm
trying to do it where it's abroader audience, you know, like people.
There's a group of people in thelike I guess in the Theories or

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paranormal community that just will love seasonone. There's a people in or season
two that would be just like,let's go. It's just crazy all out.
But I mean again, it's justeverything's condensed to to the hour because
of all the footage that I hadwalking away from you know, like the
Sally House episode in season two,it blew me away, like it blew

(14:26):
me away because I was going after. Like all of season two is all
about can something physically harm you,you know, or you know, make
your skin react or make your bodyhave an experience like from beyond? And
how do we document that really happening. There's typically you'll you'll hear people be
like I just got scratched. Yeahyeah, and then you'll you'll try to
look or you'll try to find it, you try to see. And I'm

(14:50):
not taking it away from anyone,because I do believe people do have that
happen. I just think that I'venever personally had something like so realistic could
happen at the same time where Iand document it happening, you know.
Yeah, So there's a lot ofthat that we play into season two,
and then season three is like similarconcept. Can some spiritual energy or something

(15:11):
from beyond overtake your mind, body, in your psyche you know? Likes
yeah, in not possession, Seethat's like that's like I think that's misrepresented
because possession is like the doomsday allright, Like I think people forget that
possession takes a long time to becomepossessed in a sense or to be claimed

(15:33):
to be possessed, and it's ahuge process, like it starts with like
oppression and then depression and so on, it goes down the chain. But
there is a real thing of energy, like human beings produce energy, like
kinetic energy when we move, youknow, in different types of energy,
so we produce energy. Energy can'tbe destroyed. Where does the energy go

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when the body dies? The body'sgoing to die, it's a fact,
yeah, but it can't debate energybeing detray. So where does the energy
go? So my thing is I'vehad experiences where you walk into rooms and
it happens with the living people too. You ever, like where you ever
around people where you're like, oh, they're just like energy drainers. Yeah
yeah, yeah yeah, energy vampires, Like I don't like your energy right

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now? Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. It's the same thing with
somebody that was once living that diedin in atmosphere in a building in a
space that still continues that energy.Right. So I've been in locations.
I was recently, Oh my gosh, and I hate That's the one thing
I hate is that negative energy thatyou walk into and you feel it almost
latching onto your spine. Yeah it'sa lot, Yeah, it's a lot.

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Yeah, And it feels just dirty, and you're like, this doesn't
feel right. Something doesn't feel right. And it's not the stories. It's
not the scare factor of being inthe dark and in a creepy location.
That's a part of it. ButI think it's ultimately like what's lingering?
You know, that's that really getsunder my skin because so I always said,
you know what can actually truly justmaybe latch onto your spine or latch

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on your body and change your psyche, change your mentality, like make you
feel different or it's almost like itwhatever this energy is, if it is
somebody or still that attachment of that, can that move through your body and
see through your eyes, see throughyou, become a part of you,
or make you feel a certain way. That's fascinating. That was that's season
three. So there's these overwarking butthere's these twenty episodes to kind of go

(17:30):
like down that rabbit hole. Yeah, so it has like an open book,
closed book kind of ending going onthere. And then season four we're
doing right now, which is prettyradical. It's it's awesome. I can't
wait for you guys to see whatwe're doing. Yeah, when I saw
that your show came out, andI was like, Nick's doing a new
show because we really enjoyed Paranormal Lockdownand then obviously Ghost Adventures, like I

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watched that when I was in college. You and lv I Love Myself Nice
yeah, and so like you know, back in the early twenty tens and
stuff, so it was so exciting. Death Walker is definitely different, but
it's like in a good way.Yeah, It's it's different in a good
way. Different in like what you'resaying, it's something fresh, it's something
I haven't seen before. And eveneven the equipment you use, like you

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said, is different in that GeoPortthing that you use so creepy. Yeah,
it is really weird. It's weirdwhen you're having like intelligent responses in
real time and you're there. Youknow, it's different when you watch the
NTV, but it's like it's weirdwhen you're there. And what was it
Brushing Mountain Prison when I was downin a solitary confinement and I'm like,

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I hear you know. I'm oneof those like very logical thinkers. I'm
like, okay, all right,what's the coincidence or where's the things aligning?
Or is it malfunction? Or something. But I'm telling you it was
so intelligent what was communicating, andI really condensed it in that investigation.
But there there was somebody in thatroom, Yeah, in solitary confinement,
intelligently communicating with me. And Ireally do believe. It's difficult to say

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it's a ghost because we perceive thatindividual as a ghost because we're hearing reality.
But truly, I think they werethinking we were ghosts, and that's
what he was telling me. Yeah, it makes sense, you know,
because he I believe he was livingin all his sensors, like his senses
of sight, food, water,all that stuff was stripped from him in

(19:21):
solitary confinement, and maybe that's openingup another part of the brain and almost
like psychic abilities where he can tapin. That was his form of communication
through thoughts and he could hear us. But we have technology technology to communicate
back and vice versus. So itwas just really fascinating to me just hearing
those intelligent responses. Yeah, wewere talking about that and we said it
was a little heartbreaking to hear.Yeah, because if you imagine this,

(19:45):
this person in that cell might thinkhe's going crazy because he hears you from
the future. And and like yousaid, like I was thinking that too,
were like all your senses are shippedaway from you, so what does
that leave you with contact? Right? Yeah, so like his brain was
like seeking that out and it foundyou. Yeah here and that well I
mean twenty twenty, I guess,but like, yeah, just hearing him

(20:07):
say that you are the ghost andyou are dead, like it were really
well, is like just picturing thisman sitting in the darkness all alone,
just reaching out to anything that I'lltalk back, And it was just it
was heartbreaking. And that was aconversation we had. So you did start
a conversation with your show, yeain that first episode when they're in solitary
confinement, like oh yeah, thatwas such a sad conversation but so fascinating

(20:30):
just because the answers you were gettingCorby were intelligen asking yeah, yeah,
And I think I think that's whatit's missing in paranormal television. I guess
we'll call it back because I knowthere's a there's you know, a million
people out there paranormal investigating or lookingfor unexplained or just doing it for a
hobby or whatever. Even the historythe aspect of like just the history in

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general, everything starts with a store, it starts with an individual or history,
and I think we can't forget aboutthat. And I think sometimes we
just plow over and are just thrilledby the ghosts of the phenomena of something
that's happening. And I feel likeour job, you know, is to
um, you know, tell thestories of the innocent people that lost their
lives or the people that were victimsto like something tragic that occurred. Obviously

(21:15):
criminals, criminals, murders, murderers, and we can make a lot with
that and these sinister locations, butI think ultimately they're all people, and
it's just it's presenting audio. SoI mean, if somebody was mean and
just kind of nasty in life andthen they died and there's still that that,
you know, putting out that intentmean and nasty, then that's what

(21:36):
we're gonna get. It's all aboutintent, you know, just like when
you were living so and it's thesame way with us, you know.
The way I go in is I'mjust going to talk normal, and if
it's getting nastery, the energy feelsnasty, then I'm gonna be like I'm
gonna get Stern and I'm gonna golike that. I think it's Yeah,
I don't think it's necessary to gofull blast and kicking doors and like like

(22:00):
I'll be the one to say,you know, that was me like two
thousand and four or five on thoselike young kids being dumb, you know.
But I think there has to bea point where you mature and evolve
and become like present to what you'relooking to accomplish in life in general,
not just to present something just forthrills and whatever on TV. I just

(22:22):
think there needs to be a balance, like a healthy balance or else.
It's just like, I don't know, it's just kind of teaching, especially
kids. It's teaching kids who watchthese shows that that's what it is and
everything is all, everything is eviland like the world does Yeah, it's
always a demon that's ridiculous, yeah, or that it's okay to be that
way, like totally you know,and like speaking of demons, like that's

(22:44):
such a rare thing too. Yeah. All my time, I'd say like
maybe two percent twice I've seen somesomething that's so negative and it's hard because
humans create the word demon, youknow. So at the end of the
day, what is a right,you know, and what's the perspective?
And then it goes into I couldask ten different people with different religions.

(23:07):
They would think it's something completely different, and sometimes they think it's similar.
But I just think it's a negative, something that's far more negative that we
can't comprehend necessarily as human beings.But we know it's negative, so we
label it as demon or as thatbecause it's easy to understand for us and
we don't have any other words forit at this point in time. Right,
Yeah, But it goes back tolike, so Bobby Mackie's music world,

(23:30):
Right, I always thought that wassomething like way back when I thought,
oh my gosh, it's good.The crowd on me, and I
thought, oh this is evil,this is something bad. But we don't
have all the facts to claim whatthat is or who that is. There,
just stories and other urban legends,you know, lingering in the proximity
of Abby Mackie's. But I knowthere's something there. I've investigated over a

(23:51):
dozen times, and I'm really closewith Bobby and Denise and Matt over there,
and it's just I think every timeI go back, it's transformed.
I mean, and it's changing whatever'sin the basement. I almost believe it's
a thought form entity, to behonest with you, I don't even think
it's of spirit, meaning somebody thatwas once living, debt and died.

(24:11):
I think it's something that manifested andis changing over time by the people that
are putting their intent into the location. And you can you can feel that
every time you go in that likesomething's different about this thing. I do.
Yeah, in the basement, Itotally do. And like I said,
I've been there about twelve times nowand every time I go back,
it feels different. And that's crazy. If you watch, if you watch

(24:33):
the episode on Parama Lockdown when Islept down in Bobby Macke's for three days,
God and I put the handmock overthe well because no, because why
not. We had all these devicesand everything. It's a great episode,
honestly, if you haven't see it, check it out. But we um
we captured something amazing, and that'swhen I started changing my perspective on what

(24:56):
I thought was that Bobby Mackie's wecaptured this massive ball the normally that started
floating and stuff. And then I'vereplayed in Death Walker and death Walker.
I went back and I started talkingto Mad and Bobby and everything, and
that's why I started discovering I thinkit's a thought form entity. So I
really believe that. Yeah, we'verecently kind of figured out like what that

(25:18):
is. We have investigated the WhaleyHouse a couple of times with their public
investigations that they have, and there'ssomething there that almost feels like it's pretending
to be like Yankee Jim or Violetor whatever you are expecting or hoping to
find whoever you want it to be. You want me to be Yankee Jim.
Yeah, I can get that too, exactly. Yeah, that was
like our first exposure to something likethat, and then to hear in multiple

(25:41):
episodes you bring up this concept.In one of them, you mentioned a
little girl named Sarah that there wasno records of her having passed away or
having existed at all, but there'sapparently something named Sarah haunting that place.
And then it comes up again atBobby Mackie's and it's it was It was
really cool to hear that through somebodywho's actually been through the trenches is quite
a bit. Yeah. Yeah,and again, I just think we need

(26:04):
to evolve, like the conversation ingeneral, because I feel like it's just
it's just it's dying slowly with youknow, it's just evil, it's just
bad, or it's just this,and who's to say, Like we can't
put a definite answer on that.Like I never end up saying I don't
think in any of my conclusions orwhatever, I'm not like, this is

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what it is, you know,because truly we don't know what it is.
I'm just giving my experience and mythoughts on my journey. But ultimately
it's for you to decide whoever's watchingit, and for you to think a
little bit outside the box and eitheragree or disagree or whatnot. I mean,
really, there is no right orwrong. I think there is some
stuff that's really on the nose withsome of the stuff that's happening as far

(26:47):
as paranormal goes. But I thinkultimately all the time, we're just trying
to discover and learn as as wego along through these experiences. Really it's
just about learning. Honestly, It'sjust a strange world. I mean,
there's such a huge spark and UFOologylately, you know, in the last
two years, all this like declassifiedinformation and then all of a sudden,

(27:08):
like now it's all a melting pot, like goes paranormal, supernatural, UFO
crypted. It's all like the samething. So it's just strange. It's
strange, but you know, Ijust observe sometimes a document and you know,
ten years ago I thought it wassomething different. Ten years later,
here I am whatever, and Ijust think it's something completely different, and

(27:30):
I think that's what it's all about, is learning. So yeah, I
mean, one of the coolest thingsI've captured, and I think you have
to check it out. It's it'sprobably the best footage I've ever documented.
That is the clearest filmed in fourK so we can actually zoom in and
see the details and everything on it. But it's an actual entity arm in
hand that comes reaching in and youcan clearly see it. And I actually

(27:55):
had it analyzed by a video specialist, both cameras, the raw footage everything.
It's the best footage I've ever documented. It's called the Western Block,
the Haunted Western Bloc. In seasontwo. Watched that episode. It will
blow you away. It has likethese three fingers. You can see the
arm, the elbow, the fingersIt's the strangest footage I've ever captured.

(28:15):
Now, what's weird about it iswe documented on one camera, but the
second camera sit like there's one cameraon a tripod and then Justine's holding the
other camera. The tripod camera that'snot moving or anything captures it. The
other camera right next to it doesn'tcapture it. It's the weirdest thing.
But the same cameras and they're bothfilming me and I'm just standing there.

(28:37):
We hear this noise and then allof a sudden, you see this hand
reaching behind like behind me, andthen Justin whips the camera go see what
that noise is in the dark andweave. We gave both raw footage to
the video specialist we had to analyzeand he couldn't figure out what it was,
but he did. He did seethat it had heat signature on like
the points of I think the fingersand the arms and stuff like that.

(29:00):
We could see heat signature, andI don't know, it's weird. So
then I go into uophology, likeis this an interdimensional being? So I
started right, you know, goingdown that kind of rabbit hole because I
don't know if the spirit used tobe a manufacturing plant. I don't know
that's why he was using fingers.Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Well did
you How did you feel about thecrawler you got at trans Allegheny back with

(29:23):
Coonroma Lockdown. Yeah, it wasweird. That tripped me out so hard
when I saw it. I waslike, whoah, bumps every man.
But strange is like we didn't knowwhat was happening. That's the thing.
I had no clue. Like whenI looked back in the dark when um
cameraman Rob was saying there was somethingthere, I didn't know what he was
talking about. So I really didn'tknow what there was. That was the

(29:45):
weird part. We didn't know untilactually we started reviewing it. So it
was just really strange. I hatedsleeping up on that that fourth floor.
I was having nightmares. Actually whenI was up there bout myself. I'd
close my I would try to closemy eyes, and all the rooms were
open up in that area, andall I would see is these deformed faces
just looking down at me. WhenI was laying on that that caught with

(30:07):
a stack bag, and I wouldsee all these just weird faces looking at
me, would and wouldn't let mesleep. I was so exhausted on that
on that investigation, I think Iwent we went three days straight, four
days realistically, but three days.I kept my I did the mistake of
it was the early stages of parelmullockdown, and I kept. I made

(30:29):
the mistake of leaving my boots onthe entire time. I just lived down
my clothes everything. Because you weI would just go like investigate NonStop seventy
two hours. Your body has torest at some point, so you'd lay
down in weird spots. And Ileft my boots on the entire time,
and then my my big toast startedgoing like numb and stuff. So it
was it was terrible. It wasreally bad. Un Yeah, that was

(30:53):
a mistake. But that place isuh yeah, oh I remember I slept
in the the basement or something likethat where they did the lobotomies and stuff
like. Yeah, because you're acrazy person. Oh my gosh, that
was nuts. Yeah, I forgotabout that. Yeah, you've you've you've
been through some stuff, man,Yeah, for sure. Haven't you been

(31:15):
closed into like uh in the morgue. Yeah, and the morgue where they
put the bodies. Oh my god. Yeah, I'm like, no,
thanks, that's what you say.Nope for that, Yeah, we know
right out of those ones. Yeah, yeah, that was crazy. Uh
yeah, New Jersey Mental Asylum,the Essex Mental Asylum. I slept wide
and sleep in it, but Istayed in the morgue. I got locked

(31:36):
in the morgue for over an hour. Yeah, there was that one,
which was pretty scared. I thinkof the other ones trans Alleghany, I
did the same thing in that morgue, and then I slept in a casket
coming up in Oh my God,actually in Death Walker. So Death Walker,
you'll see me sleep in a casketin Greenville Manor, which is in
was it season three? You'll seeGreenville Manor sleep in a casket for that

(32:00):
one, which was terrible. SallyHouse was extremely hard to sleep in.
And the other location that was reallydifficult was House on the Haunted Hill there.
That episode was like, it's crazybeing alone in that house by myself.
Man, the energy is crazy.Yeah. So I've been in some
pretty rugged, rugged, tough spots, sleeping on beams or in the attic

(32:22):
and just wait stuff. Is thereanywhere you haven't been that you would like
to go? Yeah, there's um, there's a couple of locations in New
York. I mean, there's there'stons of locations all over the world.
Obviously I would love to go moreoverseas to some of them, more of
the historical locations. I've been toa lot of, like the very iconic

(32:43):
locations, you know, and surprisingly, some of the iconic locations aren't as
like haunted as just kind of theselike these houses in the middle of woods
or something, or nobody's talking aboutit. Yeah, exactly. I investigated
a ton of new locations that I'venever been done before for season four,
for season three two, and likethose who were more haunted than like,

(33:05):
let's say Alcatraz Or. You know, I've been at Alcatraz a ton.
I've been to, like the WhaleyHouse. I've been, you know,
a lot of like you know,the overpopularized onto locations. But I don't
know, there's locations that still surprisedme that I walk away with with experiences
that I'm like, wow, thatwas intense and different, weird, which
is something I also liked about Deathwalkerbecause like, as I was watching,

(33:28):
I was scrolling through the different locationsyou went to, I'm like, I
haven't heard of like ninety percent ofthese, which is I'm really excited about
because you're not getting the same history, you're not getting the same background,
the same haunts all over again.And it's really amazing that you find all
these different places because they're like yousaid, there are plenty of places out
there that you could go to.You don't have to just keep going to
the popular ones, right, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, No, I've

(33:50):
done that. I mean I've beento a lot of locations. And then
you know, the other thing Iwas doing is the Nick Rof Tour,
so I'd take people with me tothese locations. So I've been to them
a ton, Like I've been aBrushing in prison a couple of times.
I've been to Bobby Mackie's over twelvetimes, Waverley Hills tons of times.
I mean, you name it,I've been to it multiple times. Or
and in some locations I'll just happenly, you know, we'll work really hard

(34:12):
to get into it and then eitherwe'll get torn down or you know,
over time it changes hands with ownershipsor whatever. So I've been lucky enough
to see a lot of locations fromthe get go and seeing them change over
the years, Like I know Penhursthas changed over the years. You know,
there's a lot of locations I've beento, but there are several I
want to go to. There's alot in Italy, Greece. I would

(34:35):
love to go to the mine temples. That would be cool. There's there's
a ton of locations. Western NewYork has a ton of locations. Um.
Yeah, nice. So future seasons, future seasons. I know they're
trying to get me to one hundredepisodes. You can do it, Nick,
We're working on a way to sayright now, Yeah, I'm gonna

(34:57):
work close. But twenty doing anylocations a year is just like intense.
It is because it's not like wehave a staff of editors and stuff like
that. Like I, you know, I edit the episodes down because I
go over the evidence and everything too, so I want the narratives to be
correct. Yeah, it's a lotof work, and it does seem like
you do a lot of research onthe history of the places before you go

(35:21):
into them, which is amazing.Like you want to make sure it's accurate.
You want to make sure that theurban legends are just urban legends and
there's no connection between what actually mighthave happened there, like when you went
to Bobby Mackie's in the first season, like you kind of debunked what happened
with the urban legend there, whichI really appreciate. M Yeah, it's
tough because you know, you tryyour best to learn the stories and the

(35:42):
research and stuff like that. Ireally wanted to do justice going into Perma
Lockdown when I went there, andthen when I went back for Deathwalker,
I just wanted to go up youknow, really cleared the waves with a
lot of things. So you know, I try to be as accurate as
factual as possible. That's like areal big point that Justin and myself try
to do. Justin does all theheavy lifting on the research, and then

(36:05):
him and I work together on likewriting it, making sure it's accurate.
He does a lot of the researchon that stuff. So yeah, I
know for a fact what we dois as accurate as you possibly can get
it. Um, we don't stareaway from that. We're not going to
go to a location and just belike, you know, right, here's
ten thousand people died and probably onepassed away, and then down the stream

(36:27):
that it happens. I mean,I see it on shows all the time,
I'm blown away. I'm like howthey get how they get away with
that? It blows my mind,Like how can you just exploit something like
that and just be okay with that? Because it's not right. We've run
into that a lot in our ownresearch for the show too, because,
like you know, we'll run intothat thing that everybody knows, and then
there's the one person who actually knowswho debunks it, and we're like,

(36:50):
well, I'm gonna trust that personover these sixty people that claim to have
heard the same thing out of nowhere, Like yeah, yeah, because we're
reiterating the same thing. It's justa game of telephone at that point.
But then when you actually get backto the source material and you can see
the proper resources, and it's like, Okay, I'm believing this person,
not what everybody else said about it, So right, Yeah, I would
say our show death Walker is byfar the most accurate than anything else out

(37:15):
there. And that's just me beingconfident about it, right because I know
all the other shows, and Iknow all the people and the producers and
the production companies and the networks.I know what they do and how it
works. Drama drama drama. Yeah, so it's just it's funny. But
I mean there's a lot of there'sa lot of good people out there that
I think mean well, but halfof the time you won't you won't see

(37:37):
the good people on TV, youknow what I mean. You won't see
those people like because really, ifyou saw what they actually do, I
think it would be boring. Halfthe time people will just be like,
all right, whatever, Yeah,because a lot of research and a lot
of real true investigations are boring waitingfor something to happen totally. And again

(37:59):
some people people just have the impathenergy where they just draw out weird things
that happen too. So it's justinteresting. I've learned that I have this
weird like empathic thing with like audiocommunication. I don't know, I learned
that really early on with like digitalrecorders and audio devices. It's just it's
where it's like an antenna or youknow, like a lighthouse. You're just

(38:19):
kind of that light in the darkand it just kind of attracts certain things.
So it's it's very interesting. Yeah, yeah, you can hit exactly.
I've noticed I'm pretty sensitive to littlechildren spirits for whatever reason. But
like I'm hoping it's not something malevolentpretending to be a child. I'd like
to believe it's actually a child.Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so
speaking of being sensitive to things,how how have you honed in on being

(38:44):
more sensitive or do you have anytips on like just trying to communicate when
opening up and going into these places. I always go in with just an
open mind. I don't go anythingor do anything special. Sometimes I'll be
I'll be careful. I think theolder I'm getting too, maybe it's maybe
it's having kids and stuff like that, I'm more like careful with open like
going too far, like meaning andopening that door up too far where you

(39:07):
can't close it from negative energy,just like lingering. You know, the
negative energy is going to go awaybecause I don't feed into negativity like I
don't feed into that like people.And plus sometimes too, when you're weak
minded in that sense, you allowthat stuff to happen to you, you
know. So I try to reallyjust shut it off when I leave a

(39:27):
location, but I can't help tohave an experience. And I'm there for
a reason. I'm there to documentand do these things, and I'm calling
upon it, So shame on me, right, But that's what I want.
I want that so I can tryto get validation, you know,
and talk to the eyewitness counts andso on, and maybe even help the
owners or whatever else is going on. But I really just want to explore
the unknown for those possibilities. Andthen it's hard sometimes to close that door

(39:51):
when you walk away, because youknow, unfortunately, negative does affect people.
Affects me constantly with a lot ofthese locations. But sometimes I'll just
shake it off and then you goto sleep or you go work out.
This is what I do. Igo work out or something like that,
pout music and I listen to alot of music, and you just kind
of push that away. But I'malso very grounded. It's taken me a

(40:13):
long time to get here. AndI'm also happy, you know. I
think happy in life is a bigpart of it too. And you have
to really truly know yourself, youknow, like you have to be okay
with who you are, what you'redoing, and everything like that. So
I think there's a lot of healthyif you're looking at the psychology of it,
you have to look at the healthybalance in life first before you kind
of dive into that warm hole andthe other stuffy. Yeah, because it

(40:36):
can affect you. It really can. So it's like put your own oxygen
mask on before you help others.Yeah exactly, I know, seriously,
and it's the same kind of scenario. You really just have to look at
it that way or else it kindof comes. It's like that what's that
that seesaw effect? Right, Ifyou don't have to balance, you're going
to be like off kilter your life. Yeah. So it's just a weird

(40:59):
thing that happens. And that's kindof how I just lived my life and
if not, I got Tessa mywife. Yeah, he's so cute.
It's crazy how time flies. It'salready like eight and a half months now.
Oh really Yeah, before you justsaid, oh, I know that,

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I think when I saw that,like it was eight months, I
was like, wait, didn't theyjust have a curiously, I know,
isn't it crazy? Time flies?It's just so weird, so weird.
Yeah, No, he's he's healthy, he's good. What would you say
is your favorite piece of equipment touse? Um? Favorite piece of equipment.
It's so hard because I used tosay the GeoPort and specific GeoPort that

(41:46):
I have because It was custom builtfor an idea, a thought that I
had that I was looking into,so they specifically made it based on things
that I was further looking into itfor technology, and it works really well.
Now I've kind of moved a littlebit away from the GeoPort, and
the reason is is because I feellike I'm using it too much because it's

(42:07):
like too easy for me to getcommunication right, because it's it's almost like
a medium. Now it's weird,like GeoPort has almost taken on its own
form and its own entity, andI feel like it's like a medium that's
attached to that device that's communicating fromthe other side. It's really communicating from
the other side. It's like hitand miss with the GeoPort. Like I'll
get very intelligent stuff. I'll gethistory that we didn't even know about that

(42:30):
I'll pass on to historians and they'llbe like, WHOA, how did you
find that. I'll be like GeoPorttold me, And then I'll get like
weird stuff like that. It's awesome, but I'm trying new devices. I'm
trying new stuff within itc for seasonfour, bringing in new people to work
with us, so we really Ijust want to try to evolve technology a

(42:52):
little bit more, and I'll trydifferent things. So it's hard to say
right now what I like like thebest. I think ultimately just me being
there in my own body and justactually having that personal experience and then knowing
it's truly a paranormal experience, andthen maybe having some equipment to validate that
with whatever equipment it is to saywow, you experience that too, or

(43:13):
somebody else that's there with me havingthat happen, you know. So I
think just myself being there is It'skind of key sometimes. So we're very
amateur ghost hunters. We've gone onlike two ghost hunts. Do you have
any tips for us as we tryto grow and evolve and just be more
respectful of the areas and not emanatewhat we've seen on paranormal entertainment television?

(43:35):
Yeah, I think you know.Number one, obviously, get permission from
the locations before you start. Butthere's there's a lot of like if you
do some research on like a reallylike Hinsdale House or some locations that are
really really deep embedded into the paranormaland have great stories that are factual,

(43:55):
and then you go in and youkind of know what you're speaking to or
who you're talking too and stuff likethat. I think ultimately, if you
can spend a couple of nights ata location or go there overnight and just
kind of put yourself into the environments, the longer you're at a location,
I feel like you possibly will havea more profound experience. So that's kind

(44:15):
of how I've been doing stuff.Sometimes you can at locations, you know,
it's like one day, one investigation, which is okay, But I
think you need to go in whereyou're just asking simple questions. Maybe digital
recorder or take pictures. You know, we all have iPhones or whatever now
and you can do a lot withdigital. And really it's just about it

(44:37):
just depends on what you're looking for, what you want to get out of
your journey. You know, areyou looking to put it together a documator,
you just want to do it becausesolely you're just interested in the pernamal.
If that's the case, just goingand just like embrace the environment,
see what happens, and see whathappens. Yeah, because you can go
there one day. You could gothere on a Monday and nothing happens.
You go there on a Tuesday,and you probably have the craziest experience in

(45:00):
your life and you're like, ohmy god, I need to go back
there. I saw this, ladiesstand in there or whatever, you know.
So it just depends. Yeah,Way has been like that. Yeah,
the wheel House has been like that. I've been there multiple times,
and yeah, yeah it's been SometimesI'm just like, oh, you know,
I saw like something out of thecorner of my eye. But then
there's another time where oh I havea really heavy, oppressive energy, and

(45:21):
then another time it's like, oh, everything here seems really happy and jovial.
It's like what's going on? Yeahexactly. And you got to think
of like the thousands, probably millionsof people that I've gone through that area
too, you know, that aredrawn to that specific spot and stuff like
that. And I'm not just I'mtalking about the living too. People leave
behind energies. So you can onlyimagine like the manifestation of like the spirits,

(45:43):
the people that lived and died thereat the way Lee, the people
around in the land, the property, the other locations in old town there,
you know, all all the surroundingstuff. Compo Santo yeah, oh
yeah, yeah, food there,drinks, yep. Yeah, it's awesome.
We were talking about potentially like doinga West Coast Deathwalker thing. It'd

(46:04):
be cool to get to San Diego, that holy area and everything. I
love San Diego. I used tolive in Lagoon, Niguel, Okay,
So Anaheim right, Anaheimer was reallynice, that whole area. Yeah.
Nice. What are the chances wecould join you on one? Right?
Hey, if I'm out that way? Definitely? Are there any spoilers or
anything you want to prepare us forfor the new season. You're filming new

(46:27):
technology, a lot of new technology, some never seen ever before. But
it's it's definitely mind blowing, someof the best evidence. It's just I
don't know. I just feel likeit's even better than all the other seasons
so far. We definitely stepped itup. We have new lowlight capabilities,
new lenses that we're using. Specifically, it's really about the lenses too.

(46:50):
Did document I've been noticing so interesting. We're trying new things, new locations
never seen before. Yeah, it'swild. It's really excited. Does your
wife when you on more investigations?She does? Yeah, you're going to
see her in a ton coming up. Yeah, she was in a couple
for season or season two and seasonthree, you'll see Tessa in some of

(47:10):
those locations. You got to watchthe Eastern Eastern Hospital episode. It's really
good. She actually almost said whenshe was a child too. Wow,
it's a it's a crazy backstory.But we got into the hospital where she
was in for a while when shewas a little kid, when she had
all these surgeries on and stuff.That's where she had her first experience and
her mediumship and her ability started tohappen while she was in that hospital.

(47:35):
Wow, it's pretty wild. Andwhat we capture and stuff, it's it's
awesome. You'll tell you guys werelinked from a very early age. That's
it's so weird. Honestly, it'sso weird. It's like, I feel
like sometimes you have to go throughlife in the weirdest way as you have
your upsire downs, you know,your highs yelows. But I think stuff
is definitely destined. You know,you can't escape it. Yeah, and

(47:59):
if you stare off that path,the universe has a way of kicking your
ass back on that line, belike, well stop you're going this way.
And that's kind of how Tess andI, you know, found each
other and it was meant to betotally. It's like a soulmate connection,
deep deep. So it's cool.I saw somebody refer to you guys as
a paranormal power couple, and Iwas like, that's I saw that.

(48:20):
I was like, what's happening?But all right, well we'll go with
that. No, that's cool.It's funny how people, you know,
when they see that. The lovefor social media. I love and here
I know it's awesome. No,I think it's really cool. I feel
like we are though as far asher and I go, I feel like
we are powerful together, you know, more so than just divided, just

(48:44):
because her abilities, Like I've nevermet somebody with such powerful and profound abilities
to see things like have that insight. And I'm telling like nobs, like
because I've met a lot of psychiclet me just tell you something. It's
not all there so and she knowsthat, and Tessa is just like it's

(49:06):
just Tessa, like you would nevereven know it, you know, Sicilian
Italian strong woman. She's awesome,you know, raising some boys over here
and my girls, and it's justlike she's just a real person, you
know, like real nobis no blindsdown. But it's so interesting when she

(49:27):
just like flips on that switch andshe just has that vision. She'll tell
you and she'll like, if youask her, she'll tell you. You
know, she's just not going tocome out of the woodworks and be like
this is going to happen, right, It's not. It's not like that.
It's um she's the most real andaccurate person I've ever met in my
life. And when I say accurate, I mean like she's accurate. She's

(49:47):
spot on with what she says.So it's amazing like her and I together
in a sense, like with herabilities with my I guess investigative tactics and
stuff like that through the years andwould just bring this very interesting combination.
You know, it's more powerful thanjust like divided. So we realized that,
and I'm telling you it's been amazinglike working with her and stuff filing

(50:09):
in this field, and again itwas destined to happen. So does she
kind of help you hone in onyour own like and past sensitivity because I
remember in the first episode of Deathwalker, you got a vision of a girl
being trapped somewhere, and I don'tknow if I've seen you like have visions
like that before, Like do youget a lot of visions like that or
does she help you with that?Surprisingly, I've had that since I had

(50:31):
my near death experience. I justdon't talk about it a lot, and
then my logical brain always wants tolike kind of interview. Yeah. Yeah,
But what I have done within thelast three to four years now almost
five years now, I've actually beenhoning in on my empathic like my visions.
I've been listening to myself more myintuition. Right, So I've been

(50:51):
because I've been listening to my intuitionmore. I've just been like, I
don't know, it's things are soweird, Like I'll say, hey,
why am I not getting that?Like I'm getting that email from that person
and I've been waiting for an emailor something like that, and then I'll
two seconds lay, I'll pull myphone be like I got the email like
at that moment. You know,just weird stuff like I'll have these visions

(51:12):
or I'll have these insights. Butmy mom used to tell me after I
had that accident with my arm,she used to say that she would hear
me talking in my room like eightnine years old, something like that,
and she come and peek in theroom and she's like, you weren't imagining.
She's like, I knew when youwere playing with the Gijo's or imagining
or whatever. You know. Backwhen I was we didn't have TVs.

(51:34):
I had to play Gijo's and I'dgo out in the woods all day and
stuff like that, like almost diea couple of times in the woods from
hurting myself or something by accident.She said. I would be in my
room talking and a couple of timesshe would catch me and I would be
in the corner of my room lookingup talking to angels, I guess,
and she's like, she's like,it would scare me so bad because it
was surreal. You'd be in therein the court and just be like talking

(51:57):
to angels and calling them by name, and they'd be talking back to you,
and you be listening, and thenyou'd be talking. Just weird stuff
like that. Yeah, So Idon't know. I think that I've always
had it. I think we allkind of have that intuition or ability.
But I think some people are ableto focus and are it's almost like using
a computer. Some people are betterat using the computer. The more you
practice, the more you learn it, the more you adapt to it,

(52:20):
the better you are. It's thesame kind of scenario, and I think
I've just been really listening to that, and I do think she has helped,
like our connection coming back together haskind of erupted that, like that
flame to honane to those those thingsthat we have. It's weird too,
because she'll be sleeping at night sometimesand if I like touch her arm or
hand or something and I'm going intodeep sleep, all pick up on what

(52:44):
she's visually. I did this acouple of shut out of man. I
was literally like, I touched herhand with you was sleeping right, yeah,
And all of a sudden I sawthis woman running down the street screaming
like in fear, and I go, what are you dreaming about? Or
what what are you doing? LikeShe's like I was. I didn't even

(53:07):
tell her. She goes, Iwas having a vision of unsolved murder.
She works on a lot of unsolvedmurder cases, and she works with the
police and detectives a lot. Shewas working on a case recently in Florida,
helping them a family. But uh, you know, she didn't talk
about a lot but she and westarted doing this a lot together too.
But she said she was having avision of where this girl was last seen

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running down the street screaming, tryingto run away from the person who was
kidnapping her. And um, that'swhat I picked up on different Yeah,
but that's it's like our family isconstantly embedded in spiritualism, paranormal um.
Our house is like the real lifeat his family. Yeah, that's we're

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all fun, going like that fun. Once a while, we'll play PlayStation.
Yeah, do you ever play fasmphobia? Um. Tessa's cousin plays
that. The last time I wasover the house for a big Italian dinner,
he's like, I need to showyou something. I was like what,
And he showed me Like I didn'tknow anything about it, Like,

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honestly, I've heard about it,I think, but I just, you
know, I really don't have anytime I go in there. He's like,
I don't know, I don't know. Is there rankings or something like
he's probably ranked like four D.Yeah, you go up in levels.
Yeah. Yeah, he was showingme it's really cool, Yeah, really
cool. It's one of our favorites. Yeah. I was telling him I

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was like I need to get likea death Walker game going or something.
Yeah, I'd be into that,a virtual reality death Walker game he plays.
Yeah, following year around, wheredo you guys see the bloopers too?
The bloopers are hilarious. By thebloopers on the release that I've cut

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out. It's just there's stuff wheremy cousin he's like running into walls,
I'm tripping over chairs, like orlike on the road when we're going to
like random hotels in between our breakswhen we're traveling, and stuff just just
it's hilarious. Some of the stuff. A bit of it in one episode
that was yeah, when I thinkyou guys were in the Masonic temples,

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Yeah, that one, Yeah,because I'm like, look, where are
you going? And then I runinto a chayah. I like seeing like
kind of more of that personality,not just like a personality that people would
play up for the camera, butI really I really liked seeing a little
bit of Nick there. So yeah, I mean I think then of day,
you know, if you cut out, if you cut out too much

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stuff for the episode as far aslike just drive you know, all the
scariest stuff or the craziest experiences.I think we dehumanize who we are.
I think it just just makes usa little bit more human if you even
like this is really what's happening.Like, we do run into walls,
we do get tired. Yeah,nothing is perfect, and get a little

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and delirious totally. Yeah, we'veall been there. We've all done that,
so it's kind of I'd like tomaintain that and we've been in there.
Yeah. Well, this conversation hasbeen amazing, an incredible experience for
the two of us. And ifthis insightful conversation has gotten you excited to
check out Deathwalker for yourself, andwe know it has, you can check

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out all forty episodes right now onthe film Rise app, which you can
download on pretty much any smart deviceincluding Roku, iPhone, Android, and
so much more. But if youprefer YouTube like me, as of last
night, ten episodes can be foundon the film Rise True Crime channel,
so you really have no excuse notto watch. Yeah, right, get

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to it, Niki. It hasbeen an absolute pleasure, and yeah,
we want to thank you for allowingus this opportunity to speak with you and
help you promote this passion project ofyours. Awesome, Thank you, and
we do hope to partner with youagain sometime in the few Sure. Is
there anywhere else you'd like anyone tobe able to find you? Yeah,
just check out on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, That's pretty much where I

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social media follow and yeah, it'sbeen exciting. More episodes coming Deathwalker and
check out film Rise. Yeah.Yeah, super exciting, so awesome.
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