July 15, 2023 • 47 mins
Welcome to another installation of our Nopeville Greenroom series where we have a casual conversation about a spooky topic. Today, we are discussing classic horror movies, and by classic, we mean horror movies pre our birth (1988). Come sit and chat with us!
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Down this road is a small city, once thriving, full of life,
but now desolate and abandoned. Wellabandoned save for the horrors rumored to reside
within, which I presume is whileyou're here. Now, there's nothing wrong
with a little morbid curiosity, butplease remember to stay close to your guides.
You wouldn't want anyone to get leftbehind. Now, Hello tourists,
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and welcome back to the Nopeville greenRoom where your tour guides. I'm Jen
and I'm Christine. And if you'renew here or you didn't catch our last
episode, our green Room series isjust a casual conversation in the green room
while we're waiting for a tour,and we just talked about different things.
So last time we talked about horrorvideo games, what we liked, what
we didn't like, and now thisweek we're going to be talking about classic
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horror movies. And for reference,what we mean when we say classic is
before we were born. It wasreleased sometime before we were born, which
was nineteen eighty eight, so yes, also another sort of preface, the
two of us haven't seen a lotof older horror films. We're just kind
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of recently getting our toes wet intothat because we're realizing that they're not all
like, not so great, whichis kind of the perception when you see
the some of the real practical effectsthat maybe do or don't hold up,
depending which we will talk about.Yes, So we have movies ranging from
nineteen thirty one all the way upto nineteen eighty four on our list of
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things that we've seen. Damn,it's almost one hundred years ago. Oh
my god, one hundred years ofhorror movies. If y'all wanted to feel
old, you're welcome. I don'tthink anybody listening to this was around in
nineteen thirty one. No, butthat may have been their movies back then,
where we look at the eighties moviesand we're like, oh man,
that classic slasher film that was theirs. Yeah. So I want to say
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that the thought originally kind of cameto mind for us of how well certain
movies have held up against the testof time was when Jen had to watch
Night of the Living Dead. Yes, for our zombie episode which going into
Night of Living Dead, I didn'thave super high hopes for it because it's
in black and white, and Iknow as a pre judgment, but we
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all do it. Yeah. Iwas like, this is in black and
white. It's going to be aslow pace, it's not going to be
scary, like it's a zombie movie, what can they really do? But
after watching it, I thoroughly enjoyedit and is definitely one of my favorite
classic horror movies. And I feellike it really held up. And I
feel that the reason why is becausethe effects, even in black and white,
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they were portrayed really well. Andthe main character Ben, he was
smart from start to finish, whichthat's one thing that I really like about
horror movies is when the character issmart, where you're yelling at the TV
or something and you're like, whyare you doing that? Do this?
And then they go do that.You're like, okay, so that wouldn't
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have worked. Yeah. So yeah, That's not something that I would have
thought would have played out very wellin a movie from the sixties, but
it did. And then I alsohad to watch Donna the Dead and I
was like, oh, I reallyenjoyed Nine of the Living Dead, so
Donna the Dead must also be great. This is a classic zombie movie.
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It was redone. People always referenceit highly revered yes, highly revered.
It has like a cult following,and I watched it and might be controversial,
but I hated it. That wasa waste of my time. I
wanted my time back. I wouldhave watched Night of the Living Dead over
again if I had the option.So comparing the two though, what made
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Donna the Dead fall flat for you? The characters made a lot of stupid
moves. It very much felt likea parody zombie movie like Shaun of the
Day, right, but was takingitself too seriously on top of that.
Yes, so that's the difference isthat Shaun of the Dead is meant to
be a comedy, and then Donnathe Dead took itself way too seriously.
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And then they tried to weave inthe social commentary about how people consume too
much, which is why even thoughthey're dead, they just do what they
did in normal life and crowd themalls because that's all people did. They
consume. So they thought that wouldbe a safe place because it's always safe.
Yeah, and so they thought itwas a point point that they made
it. Yeah, But then seethe thing is I also didn't like the
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remake. I thought the remake wascheesy and again they made dumb moves,
and I thought, Okay, theremake was stupid, but maybe the original
was better. No, they bothsuck. So the I just literally remade
the stupid movie stupid, yes,but in a modern twist, I guess
modernly stupid. So Night of theLiving Dead yes, still holds up Donna
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the Dead, both the original andremake. No things right. So also
taking another film that I wasn't entirelysure about, but I watched it.
This one I watched out of purecuriosity while researching Bella Lugosi. Yeah,
and as Dracula, which came outin nineteen thirty one, so they didn't
have all of the technology and stuffthat we have now. In my opinion,
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I didn't hate watching it. Idefinitely enjoyed my time watching it.
I wouldn't I don't know if i'dwatch it again. I wouldn't go out
there ravings saying, oh my god, you have to see this movie.
But I also wouldn't turn somebody offif they wanted to watch it. So
they did a decent enough job withlike sound effects, and in order to
make Dracula super scary, they reallyliked to focus on the intensity of Bella
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Lugosi's eyes for some reason, likethat would be the only thing you could
see in the scene. Was justlike there's dark across the top, dark
around the bottom, but it's justlike this, I don't want to call
it a beam of light per se, but just you know, this light
across his eyes as maybe he's peekingthrough the window or whatever. I remember
there being brides of some kind,but they didn't play much of a role,
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so that felt weird. I don'tknow if it was just the idea
of, oh, Dracula collects womenbecause that's what Dracula does. I'm not
sure. But they built tension welland the payoff was okay, it was
It was a kind of nice seeingwhere modern vampire things stemmed from. Yeah,
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I didn't see too much of theelements of modern vampires in it.
I'm trying to remember if he spentmuch time out during the daylight or if
it was literally just the nighttime thing. And I don't recall there being too
much focus on the things that wouldweaken him. He was just a bizarre
guy. Maybe he was just abizarre guy that's rude. Well in a
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vampire Welcome to humanity, yep,and it's made that much worse on the
Internet. Yes, So another movieyou had to watch for research was The
Thing. Oh yeah, I thoroughlyenjoyed The Thing that came out in nineteen
eighty two. Yeah. I reallyliked the practical effects. They were really
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gross and convincing, and for anearly eighties movie, the effects were really
good. I like the storyline.I liked seeing that in modern times.
I liked the among Us kind ofthing going on. I know that's why,
I know that's where among Us isfrom. But it was funny seeing
it in retrospect, you know,right, and everybody's just pointing fingers at
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each other, and it was verylike I couldn't you couldn't predict who actually
was infected or who the thing was. And I really liked that about it,
and I liked how it ended,where it kind of left it up
in the air whether Kret Russell's characteris dead or not. Yeah, I
think most people lean on him,you know, having sacrificed himself, but
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it kind of it kind of endsin a kind of a vague spot where
he could he could have he couldn'tsee. I like stories that do that,
where they kind of do this thingwhere the end of the story is
really up to you. I thinkyou did that with one of your stories
once, where it was kind oflike, depending on your mood or your
mindset when you went into the story, is how you view the way the
story came to an end, whichI think it's clever on a storyteller's part.
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Also leaves it open for a sequel. Yeah, and if you think
it ended horribly, then that's yourmindset going. I didn't say that's what
happened, but I did, Likein the beginning, it's just kind of
a weird opening scene where you seethis person speaking of foreign language shooting at
a dog and you see that andyou're like, why are you shooting at
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this dog? Why are you tryingto kill this dog? Turns out the
dog is the thing, and thetransformation when the dog transformed, it was
so creepy, but like it wasso well done. The effects in that
movie is just amazing, and wewatched it behind the scenes of it,
and so much work goes into thesepractical effects. It's amazing, like the
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artistry and to make it look scaryand realistic, and the things you have
to think of to make blood looklike blood and also do what you wanted
to do, or like that thisperson's arms got chopped off, or you
know, this dog transformed into thismonster. Like it's amazing. Yeah,
the unsung heroes of any film fromshit the start of time when we started
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making films, or of the specialeffects people. Also the musicians, Yes,
because you can't have a good filmwithout a score that does well.
Actually, that's not entirely true.Case in point, the Birds. So
The Birds came out in nineteen sixtythree, and that was an Alfred Hitchcock
film that had no music what's whatever, no music at all, none interesting,
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and that was a creative choice onhis part. So this movie,
in My Mother's Mind is one ofthe scariest movies ever of all time.
Now, I can't say I necessarilyagree the green screen is very apparent in
today's viewing. But having said that, he does do the atmosphere pure justice,
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where there's a moment of calm amidstall the chaos that's happened with the
birds, like destroying this little town, and one of the protagonists walks out
of this house in the entire frontyard is covered in birds just standing there.
They're literally just standing there. They'reall real birds too, they're all
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in the trees. Yep, they'reall real birds. So it's not that
I would probably would have laughed at. But he's yeah, it's just all
these little fake stuffs birds just sittinglike little lawn flamingos or something. Oh
my god. So yeah, he'swalking out. I can't remember if he's
going to the truck or the carwhere he's going because it's been a long
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time since I've seen it. SoI just kind of saw this clip recently,
and he's just walking through the birdsare, you know, very carefully
moving out of the way of hisfeet. He doesn't kill any of them
by stepping on them or anything.God forbid you start those up and going
because you killed one. Yeah,But it's just like I think Hitchcock said
that he had like a low sortof like hum where it's almost like an
engine sitting idol on purpose. Soit's almost like these things are just waiting,
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yeah, right, exactly, anticipationexactly. See, you haven't even
seen it, and it's you feelit. Yeah. Yeah. And then
I watched a video yesterday that talkedabout it and actually compared this movie to
being similar to like a zombie film, which I thought was interesting. I
never would have thought of that.But the difference between a zombie film and
this one is that in a zombiefilm, there's still very clear goals and
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motivations to what the zombies do,even if it is just consume or whatever.
With the birds, the fact thatthey just stop for no apparent reason,
they don't care about us. Andthen they talked about how the way
Hitchcock built the plot lines of thisstory is around like all these things that
each of the main characters are goingthrough with. You know, one woman
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figuring out that she's in love withthis man, and but she also meets
up with the woman he used tobe with, and the reason she's not
with him anymore is because mother inlaw kind of sucks and they meet mother
in law and so there's all thislike love triangle bullshit going on, and
then the birds attack it. Allof that just goes out the window because
we're still it's mood exactly because ourmotivations are plans, the things we want
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in life, the way we viewthe world doesn't matter to nature, and
it was beautifully illustrated in this movie, which is crazy because again didn't think
about it. We'll watching it,but this guy's analysis was amazing. Make
sure we post that somewhere. Butyeah, yeah, I wonder if that's
maybe inherent, like subconsciously. Butmy mom thinks it's such a terrifying film,
probably because I think we've talked aboutthis. I don't remember which tour
it was, but we were talkingabout movies like The Strangers or Hush or
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something like that where there's no motiveor the killer. That is what's scary
is that there's no reason for thesepeople to be here killing these other people.
And it's that not knowing why inthe end of The Strangers, where
it's like why me because you werehome? Yeah, kind of a thing.
And I think that, like yousaid, the anticipation building up with
the birds, like there's no rhymeor reason why these birds aren't attacking and
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they never explained it. They didthat on purpose, where there's there's no
reason, so that it could veryreal. You know. Obviously the odds
of it happening incredibly low, butit could, Yeah, and we'll have
a reason maybe. Then it's likethose memes that are let's say, the
chances of being attacked by a birdor unlikely but not zero or something like
that. Yeah, something like thatwhere it's like, yeah, see,
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and they had this whole They havethis little scene where the you know,
there's this older lady that says somethingabout, oh, birds would never harm
a soul or something like that,and I think it's before anything happens.
I think the only thing that happensthat would have even brought the conversation up
is when the main lady is comingto shore to see the guy that she
was surprising by being there. Aseagull comes down and just like gets her
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in the head and flies away.That's it, sucks up her hair a
little bit and leaves. Yeah,that's it, and then there's nothing.
The guy even describes it. Hesays, there's there was nothing for that
whole half hour until that, andthen nothing for another half hour after that.
So now half the movie's gone byand you've had one bird attack.
Yeah, and you've had all thisbuild up of all this story of why
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humans do what we do, andthen the birds come in and suddenly none
of it. There's no payoff forany of it. It stops. It's
just a dead stop for all ofthat. I also think. What's scary
about that whole aspect is you goabout your daily life and not thinking of
anything, and then all of asudden, the birds are stalking you and
just waiting for their chance to attack. But that's also just real life in
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general. You go about your life, you know, Okay, robberies happened,
people, things happen to people unfortunate. Think that would never happen to
me. Why would it happen tome? Yeah, it does. And
then now every time you go dothat innocuous, inane thing, it's in
the back of your head that thiscould happen to me. Again, statistics
don't matter if you're part of itexactly, you were not part of the
statistic. But I want to goback to practical effects real quick. We
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recently watched Alien, Yes your firsttime. I was obsessed with the set.
The whole time we are watching.I was like, this movie is
from the seventies, yep. Iwas so surprised it looked I don't.
I mean it could be because alot of modern you know, extraterrest show
movies might use Alien as a backdrop. Yeah, but it looked great.
The set looked great, the effectslooked great. The puppetry of the alien
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looked great. I really thoroughly enjoyedthat movie. You know, I'm surprised
that one how old it is,too, that I hadn't seen it earlier
in my life. But also,the alien wasn't a puppet. It was
a man in a suit. Wedid not know that. We found that
out from we were watching this witha patron, actually a couple of them,
and one of them mentioned that,and I looked it up and it
was crazy to see that. Yeah, it was, in fact just a
man in a suit. I wassurprised at how little you see the alien,
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but again as the anticipation, it'sthe stocking of it. Yeah.
But I also feel like that bringsme to something I've thought about since we've
decided we were going to talk abouthorror movies. Is I feel like older
movies took this sort of less ismore approach. I know that they mostly
did it because it was easier totell the story without having to worry about
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how to make this grand thing happenon screen in a way that's convincing.
It's better to just tone it downjust enough so it's there. But that
also makes you rely on building aproper atmosphere, which they did because you
know, you have this guy that'sbrought in against protocol with this thing on
his face. Yeah, they leavehim alone in the lab. You're like,
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why just out when they have thisperfectly good thingy that they could just
keep him in little incubator type thing. I don't know, and they left
him out. You're just saying,why are you doing that? Yeah?
Where did it go? Because iteventually disappears? Where did it go?
And you know it's going to popout at you at some point? Yeah,
I mean we all, even yougoing into it. You know how
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aliens work sort of like you know, the chess burst or is a thing
you may not have understood the processof how it works, I guess before
you went into exactly you see whena monny alien and a daddy human fall
in love, you get the chessbursterscene, which none of the cast knew
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what was going to happen the wayit did. Oh interesting, So their
reactions are genuine. That's fine,which again I think director is doing that
is fantastic if it's done ethically.There's definitely been situations where they've done these
things that have severely traumatized people.Chainsaw mass Here Yes, yes, which
is also on my list that holdsup Blair Witch Project. Oh yeah,
I wonder how those people are doing. But yeah, I feel like with
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the less is more approach, Idefinitely agree because if you do too much,
it takes you out of it wherethere are so many good horror movies
leading up until the end when youhave to fight the monster. The whole
hour and a half you invested inthis movie then just goes down the drain
because you're like, well, that'snot sacary, but building up the atmosphere
at the anticipation, having a goodactor to react to the things, even
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though the actors know that it's fake, having the good actors reacting to it.
Because I watched the original Grudge theJapanese Grudge, and I know a
lot of people and this is goingto be controversial, but I appreciated the
American one more jen the controversial one. Yes, I was more convinced that
the actors in the American one wereactually scared, but in the Japanese one,
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I couldn't believe that the actress wasscared. I'm like, this girl
just ripped her drawf and you're juststaring there with your mouth open. I've
seen that with a lot of screwvideo games usually. Yeah, there was
one in Foreign one that one ofthe YouTubers I watched was playing. I
can't remember what it's called right now, but so many of the characters were
just still on their bullshit the entiretime, where they're just they you know,
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someone will come in to be like, oh my god, this person
just died and they go, ohha ha, real funny, and then
they don't even bother to go investigate. They're just kind of this person stupid.
Yeah. But speaking of movies thatpeople will say at the scariest movie
in their life, like your momsaying that The Birds was for her,
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I've heard a lot of people saythat The Extorcist was the scariest movie for
them. Now again, effects andthe age of the movie, and probably
the timing. I watched that movieas an adult, and having watched a
lot of horror movies in my lifeleading up until the time I watched The
Extracist, I didn't think it wasscary. Yeah, So when I first
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watched it, I was school age. Couldn't tell you. I think I
was high school. I don't remember. I was apparently old enough to be
left alone in the house, whateverage that is at our generation, but
everybody was gone. I had rentedthis movie because that was still a thing,
and Hollywood video Blockbuster blockbuster of course, because that was around the corner.
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So we or we nothing. Itwas just me, just me up
by my lonesome. Everybody left.I remembered hearing this was the scariest movie
ever, and so I put iton. It was still kind of daylight
outside, but like the sun wasgoing down, kind of daylight. So
by the time all of the Exorcismstuff is happening, especially the spider walking
down the stairs scene, it's pitchedblack in my house. I hadn't turned
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any lights on, perfect exactly,there wasn't a single light on in that
goddamn house. And I just suddenlyrealized how very alone I was in that
moment, and it was very dark, and I got up, I possible
if it got up, very gingerly, but also quickly went to go turn
on the first lights which I couldfind, and then I was able to
resume the movie and I was okay, but again it still hit me a
certain way, And then years laterI remembered again scariest movie ever. This
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was great. I remember being soscared of it. Showed it to my
best friend at the time. Theonly jump scarce she got was when I
scared her because there's a scene wherethey're doing the archaeological big thing and guy
reaches his hand in this deep darkhole and nothing happens. There's no payoff.
But while he's doing it, Ijust turned to her and went She
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jumped out of her skin, andthe rest of the movie was just blah,
Yeah, which is what I feltlike when I watched it. But
I can understand that the product ofits time, where it was the first
type of a movie like that.It was like satanic panic at the time,
right, So people were just likescared of legit demonic possessions. And
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I can put myself in those people'sshoes and empathize. Yeah, but it
just wasn't scary for me. Yeah, because I've seen we're literally talking about
this, we've seen classic horror moviesthat scared us. Yeah, like Halloween,
Yes, the original Halloween. WhoI was scared of it because after
I'd watched it, we went andstayed in a cabin and I kept thinking
that Michael Myers was going to bustthrough our doors. Stayed in another cabin
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after watching a horror movie. Ifeel like no so that the first time
I stayed in that cabin it wasbecause of Halloween. Now the second time
I stayed in the cabin is becauseof Hush. I know. That's what
I mean. It seems like itseems like you watch a horror movie and
then you go stay in a cabinlike a crazy person, and then you
wonder why we send you scary memes, thinking it's fun rude. So it's
my birthday recently, and we stayit in a cabin, same cabin,
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same cabin. In two different textthreads, my so called best friend sends
me a gift of the Hush Guy, and then like seconds later, in
another text thread, my brothers aresending gifts of Jason. Mind you,
this is after she tells me shehas no service or the service isn't great,
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service isn't great. We're literally sittingoutside around the fire pit, so
you know, our eyes are adjustedto the light of the fire and everything
around us is pitch black, andthey're sending me memes of horror movies.
Great, thanks guys, because welove you. And we want you to
be safe. Don't ever forget thedanger in the woods. Kids. I
never forget the danger. You don'tknow what goes on in I think about
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this stuff way too much. Toquote my niece and nephew on the fourth
of July, watch Out Kids.So funny it sound advice, Watch Out
Kids. But speaking of Halloween,though, did you know that it was
originally titled The Babysitter Murders? Weird? Interesting? I found that while I
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was looking through a list of whatexactly as a classic horror film? Is
that supposed to be based off ofthat urban legend of like the call was
coming from the house? Kind ofa thing? I'm not sure? Like
Black Christmas? Will we watch that? I didn't like that. That movie
sucked. You don't like Black Christmas? No, did you? It wasn't
good. I'm sorry anybody who enjoyedthe original Black Christmas, I'm sorry I
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didn't enjoy it it all though.I did not have a good time with
that one. I know there's beeniterations since, but I read that of
them, this was the best one. So that's why we chose to watch
it with our patrons. Plus,I think for the most part, most
of us hadn't seen that one isvery much giving Dona the Dead. You
should watch the original. Noodn't havewatched either of them. And also I
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remember reading some of the descriptions andstuff and being like, these ones don't
trop this. God, this onesounds all right, but it was another
one where something happens to someone andnobody really investigates it, which I guess
isn't the core problem of the moviereally, since most horror movies based their
premise off of this. But thisgirl dies at like the start of the
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film, and they all just assume, without ever having seen her leave the
house, that she must have left. Yeah, she must have gone on
holiday or whatever. Yeah, shemust have left early to go back home.
And then they get these creepy assphone calls and they do almost nothing
about them. I think they triedto call the cops once, and the
cops or pieces of shit, Yeah, where they just oh, you're just
college. But also, like towardsthe end, when the police were telling
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the girl not to go back intothe house, stay outside until we go
there, she goes back into thehouse. Yeah. I don't even remember
why, because I think she herfriend screaming or she was trying to get
her friend to come with her,but at that point her friend was already
dead, right, and she wentto go investigate, and then she goes
into the room and sees her friendin the bed, all bloody and murdered.
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But this is after, like thecops said, we're on our way,
meet us outside, do not goback in the house, and she
straight up runs back into the houseand she very much knew she answers the
phone again. Yeah, yeah,at this point she was very obvious what
was going on. Yeah, butshe had to play heroin and run into
the house and then get herself messedup. Yeah, it was It was
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stupid. I didn't like that one. That one. The story is,
story plays a lot, story playsa big role. So yeah, that
comes back to something you were sayingearlier. Were some of the even recent
movies where they have great build upand they did a good job and then
they hit the end and they don'tknow how to finish it for some reason,
And it just kind of the biggestthing for me for that's not a
classic horror movie, but mirrors.Do you remember that movie Key for Sutherland
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that starred in it. But itwas great up until the end. So
it was spooky and that there wassome other world in the mirror and it
could manipulate your reflection and then itaffects you in real life. So the
biggest thing is there was this girl. She looks in the mirror and then
her reflection is like opening up herjaw, and then she happens in real
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life and literally just opens her jawuntil it just snaps. And that was
like one of the scenes that sticksin my head for forever. But it
was creepy. Every time you passa reflection or pass a mirror, something
creepy was happening. And then atthe end, the monster shows up and
it's like like Silent Hill or ResidentEvil and the monster just like running across
the walls and you're just like killingit like you're an action hero, and
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it was really disappointing. That remindsme of another movie I watched and I
can't think of what it was.It was it was it was something I
watched for research and I cannot rememberthe life of me what it was.
Where. Yeah, when it showedup, it was just kind of there
and you're just okay, Yeah,Signs was like that for me. Yeah,
signs was disappointing. Yeah, onceit showed up, it was like,
oh everybody else and I went,oh okay, Yeah, aliens don't
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scare me unless it's from alien.Yea, unless it's the Xenomorpha that scary.
See. That was one that likeit built the tension. You didn't
see the monster much, but thenyou get to the end and you think
it's gone, You think it's dead, but it's not. And it's so
it carried on just that little bitmore to make her that much more badass
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by actually killing this thing, orat least I think get into the vacuum
of space, which you assume itdies. Oh no, because then it
tries to cling to the thruster andgets burnt. But you know, it
had a decent ending that still keptyou on that high of oh my god,
it wasn't dead. And just thefact when she was slithering into her
space suit, just you know,one limb at a time, and then
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just watching the alien. The alienwas sleeping so cutely on top of the
console. Hey don't mind me,just take me with like a little croissant,
just like the cat. Also bonuspoints for being a badass. She
saved the cat, so fuck.Yeah. Although she was very rough with
the cat torch, she's very roughwith the carrier. Yeah, but we
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can overlook that since she saved thecat. Most people start to save the
thing and then forget about the thingand you never know what happened to whatever
it was. Yeah, she laidher life on the line for the cat.
She did. There was a moviethat I remembered really loving back when
I first saw it in high schoolthat a lot of people love. You
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may not like what I'm going tosay about it now, I'm sorry because
I did watch it again recently.No, not you, you haven't seen
it. I don't think you kindof like it when you do. Okay.
The Evil Dead one came out innineteen eighty one, and the effects
are not good and they are allover the place. Is it supposed to
be campy? Though? I don'tthink the first one one was m The
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rest of them definitely are, butI don't think the first one was supposed
to be. I'm really interested tosee the new one. I haven't yet,
but it looks creep I heard itwas. It looks disgusting. Yeah,
but like you know, a goodway. Yeah exactly, not like,
oh I wouldn't go see it becauseit looks gross. Yeah, but
yeah I decided, like, youknow what, fuck it, I'm gonna
watch it again sometime recently. Itwas after one of our movie nights actually,
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okay, And just the way likefleshed terrors and the way the plants
move because there's the forest is alive, man, and just the makeup was
not good and unlike the less ismore approach like most of the older movies
took, it was not there.It was it was more is more and
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like you could have done with less. Yeah, it probably would have been
better if there was a lot lessof what they were trying to do,
but they they definitely like they wentballs to the wall with that one.
Yeah, so that was a bummer. I do love Bruce Campbell, but
he definitely becomes a lot more unhingedas the series goes on, remember that
for sure. Yeah, I didn'tcare for that one. Speaking of movies
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that you watched when you were youngerand then again in your adulthood, yes,
Nightmare on Elm Street mm hmm.Yeah, so'll tear about that because
everybody, everybody knows how you feel. About this one. So, if
you've been following us since the beginningof this podcast, you know that Freddy
Krueger is still a nightmare to me. He haunted my dreams well into my
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adulthood. And I saw the movieonce when I was five, and so
Christine, lovely, lovely, Christine. Yeah, exposure therapies, let's watch
it. It's like, I don'twant to watch it. Freddy Krueger scares
the shit out of meat. Well, we have to see if it still
scares you. So we watched it, guess, and it was very campy,
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and it was that's scary. Yeah, the effects I don't feel like
held up like his face, Yeah, and I didn't. I don't remember
him being so jokey. Oh yeah, he's a don't just remember the phone
call and then him licking through thephone. Yeah, and it which also
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looks bad now yeah, tell it'sa rubber of tone. Yeah. So
I don't like the effects held upreally well, it doesn't scare me anymore,
So thanks Christine. See, I'mnot a horrible person. I just
do terrible things. Sometimes we shouldput a slogan on a shirt. I'm
not a horrible person. I justdo terrible things. We also watched Ambityville
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Horror or you did for Yeah,I watched the original one, which I
felt like I enjoyed it because Ihad researched the storyline very thoroughly before going
into it, and based off ofthe research I did and how the movie
played out, it was very accurateto the story that the letz Is talked
about, which I appreciated because veryoften we go, we do research about
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a topic and then we watched themovie based off of it, and you're
just like, that didn't happen.That didn't happen. That was different.
Who are these people looking at you? The devil? Maybe do it?
All of the conjuring movies, thatwas the one that really hit though,
because we didn't see the movie untilwell after we had researched it. Yeah,
yeah, so that's disappointing. Disappointing, But that's what I liked about
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Amityville Horror. It was very loyalto the source material, whether or not
you believe it. But how werethe effects then? They had, like
the slime on the walls and shit, Yeah that was cool. Was it
convincing? Yeah? But I thinkfor the most part, you just it's
because you just see George go offthe rails. M is what makes it
scary is he's unpredictable and he goesfrom the happy, go lucky guy to
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this very cold story man. Right, So that my little gasp for just
a second ago talking about effects andwhether or not they held up well was
I was thinking of the Poltar guyswhen we watched that, yeah for a
movie night, and that scene whenthe guy is looking at his face in
the mirror and he starts pulling hisye off. Yeah, that was gross
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even now and very well done.Yeah, yeah, and super unnecessary.
But well, so that was myfirst time watching Faltergeist and that was like
two years ago. Oh wow,that was Yeah, that was one of
our first movie nights with our patrons. But I really liked it. I
thought that the storyline was was reallygood and the characters didn't make stupid decisions.
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I felt like, yeah, youdidn't move the bodies exactly. Yeah,
that movie was. That movie waswell done. The swimming pool,
a swimming pool with the with thereal skeletons, Yeah, and it Yeah,
wouldn't you just feel cursed? Imean we did talk about that being
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a cursed movie set yeah, butI liked that everybody was just on board
what was happening right away. Therewas no doubt how typical stereotype on one
of the partners. Usually the fatherdoesn't believe what's going on, but just
immediately everybody's like one, I sawthat stuff started happening with Carol. Everybody
just believed her immediately. They justgot on board what they needed to do
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to try to rescue her. Theybrought in the medium. Yeah, but
it wasn't until after she disappeared though. I mean some of them had seen
some things, but I think stillthe mom was the one who was seeing,
like the stuff stacking in the kitchenand all that kind of stuff.
But yeah, it wasn't like thisweird thing where the girl disappears and it's
like, what have you gone?Mother? It was yeah, okay,
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well how do we get her back? Yeah? Yeah, the medium was
an interesting an interesting individual. Yeah, did you watch Johns when you were
younger? I did watch Johns whenI was younger, But I feel like
that's one of those ones where Ineed to watch again as an older person
because I'm still scared to go inthe water. But we know that I
have a fear of deep water.Oh yeah, no, that's not going
away. But even when I'm ina pool, I'm just like, there's
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there's a shark down there. Isit really just a shark thing or just
a ambiguous what could be down there? I think my mind wants to say
a shark because sharks are real andit's scary. Yeah. If I just
let my mind go rampant, thenit makes it even scarier. I sent
you the video of what you're supposedto do when a shark approach is here.
You're supposed to stop flapping your mirror. You're supposed to push its head
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away, but you're not supposed tolike panic swim away. Yeah. Yeah,
because it attracts the movement attracts it. Yeah, exactly. I couldn't
remember if I sent it to you, as well as other people are not.
Yeah. So I saw Johns whenI was young and it bored me
to tears. So to this day, I still haven't seen the whole movie.
I do know the quote, doyou think it warrants a rewatch?
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I mean, because we're gonna needa bigger boat? Is it weird?
I think no, it's you're goingto need a bigger boat, But yeah,
I would be down to watch it. Can't guarantee I won't get bored,
but I might not because I,as an adult, I understand that
movies have other plot besides monster eatingpeople. Right when I was a kid,
it was very much just there's noshark happening. It's just a lot
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of boring adults talking, boring adultthings talking. Yeah, so I just
was I don't want to watch this. So yeah, I would probably watch
that one again, just to seewhat the big deals about. I've seen
there's some cities where they'll screen iton on a projector while you're in the
ocean. No, on inner tubes, like the shallow portion of the other
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it doesn't matter. No, that'sa little too immersive for me. Oh
thank you. Another classic horror moviethat I watched recently but not younger,
was The Shining, and I likedit. I liked The Shining, No,
I hated the fact that the entiremovie the caretaker Dick is coming to
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save them because Danny has the Shiningand has been telepathsal communicating with him right
the entire movie. The entire movie, you see his journey coming back to
the Overallook Hotel, and then hestupidly announces himself when he walks in,
give Jack the opportunity to then ASTshim in the back, and then he
dies immediately asks him a question.But what was funny is one we had
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watched the Simpson's Treehouse of Horrors episodeimmediately after, and seeing the small little
easter eggs of things from the moviethat were in the cartoon was really funny,
Like, for instance, Dick's roomat the Overlook had pictures of all
these like sexy women, and thenin the Simpsons episode, the caretaker Willie
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has all these sexy Scottish women aroundhis little cabin like that was. Another
interesting detail is that their names areDick and Willie had to translate over to
the cartoon. But I don't know. I think that's just a coincidence because
his name is just Willie in general. He's always the caretaker. His name
is Willie in general. But whynot choose him because he has a Dickey
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name. There are other characters thatcould have been mo. They chose Willie
on purpose, true, But yeah, I did. I did enjoy it.
I liked at the end Wendy justlike Grab Danny. It was just
let's go we gotta go. Whocares about Jack? And then Jack rees
suggest yeah, which she was allabout herself and her son and was able
to get out by herself as well. She should be. Oh. One
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older movie that I would like youto see though, that I watched for
our Mother's Day episode is Friday thethirteenth. Yeah, I haven't seen the
original one yet, it's good.We watched the one with Jared Patti Lenkey,
Yes, which is also good.Way, I enjoyed that. And
then because that tells like I haven'tseen the original Texas Chainsaw mask here,
but I watched the one on Netflixthat came out recently, and that sucked.
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Yeah, it don't. Don't wasteyour time. It's stupid. Yes,
it's not even like stupid funny.It's just stupid. Like you lose
brain cells watching it. Yes,it makes you feel bad. It deserves
zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Ohit doesn't. What is it? Actually?
It does not deserve the thirty onepercent it has thirty one percent.
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Yes, I've seen Keanu Reeves movieswith lower percent that we're way better than
them. In fairness, I'm startingto go away from the Rotten Tomato scores.
Because nine times out of ten theydon't seem to be all that accurate.
Yeah, we've definitely seen movies thathad a really bad score and been
like but why though, I thinkwhen that comes to mine was Gothica.
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Yeah, I've enjoyed that movie,but it got such low ratings. Yeah,
I have like a twenty percent,which is okay. I mean,
did you send people who don't likesuspense thrillers because I could see why you'd
hate it. Yeah, I justI don't put any stock into those ratings
anymore. I look at like audienceratings because those audience ratings are more accurate.
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Yeah, not that rotten tomatoes aren'treal people, but they may as
well not be. They're biased.Yeah, they probably got paid to do
certain scores or not. Yeah,Texas Change saw Massacre held up pretty well.
I feel like the reason it heldup so well, though, is
because they were trying so hard notto get an X rating that they took
a lot of stuff out. Soa lot of it's more or less left
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to the imagination. You don't actuallylike, I don't. I don't think
you see him ever use the chainsawon anyone. You're just it's implied elsewhere.
Okay, but in the recent onesthey don't censor that. Well what
happened nowadays audiences are so desensitized toviolence. It is what it is that
they can show you whatever. Keepin mind that nineteen sixty was the first
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time I got damn toilight flushing wasfeatured in movies, So people really clutch
my pearls had their sensibilities about themback in nineteen seventy four, very differently
than they do now, which againis why The Exorcist hits so hard for
people. Yeah, it was that. I mean, it was a thing.
It was a thing that nobody knewcould happen to people, and it
was again like a lot of moviesseem to have been put out there.
I was like, oh, thisis real. This happened based on a
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true story, right, which looselyboost I mean, Texas changed saw massacre.
They tried that too, and itwasn't even remotely because that never happened.
It was just there was like awhisper of Edgean. But even that,
I don't think it was intended.I don't think it was just a
thing Edgeen did. Yeah, sohis crimes had happened before the movie,
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But I don't think they tried tobase it off of him, maybe to
make some things a little creepier,like having lamp shades and stuff made out
of human skin, but referencing oldtimey toilets. Watching Psycho for research that
was actually much better than I expectedit to be, for sure. It's
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that hold up to it did evenknowing what the twist was. Yeah,
going into it, I still feellike Hitchcock did a really good job with
again the soundtrack at the time,because he obviously used a soundtrack in that
one. It didn't scare me obviously, because it doesn't. It takes a
lot to make me actually jump orfeel a type of fear. Not me,
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which is why I love watching cornermovies with you. Thanks, you're
the jump entertainment. There's a movieon the screen, but I'm your entertainment
a little bit of both, especiallyif ghost faces out there. No yeah,
no eyes on me, all eyeson him. Still enjoy your jumps
next to me, but in myperipheral, yeah, all eyes are still
a lot of ghost pace. Sothe actor who played Norman Bates did a
(42:10):
good job of coming across is justcreepy enough that if you were in that
situation, you would not have trustedhim, but he was also seemingly normal.
But the interesting thing about that filmwas that there's only the one murderer
that you see happen, and thenthe rest of the movie is just kind
of people trying to figure out whatthe hell happened to this woman, which
everybody followed the leads the way theywere supposed to, had the proper suspicions.
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It was great. The plot wasgood, and then of course the
big reveal that mother is not anactual human living being. I feel like
the story on that one held upreally well. Let's yeh. Yeah.
There were a couple of movies onthe list of fifty three classic horror movies
that I haven't seen, but theybased on the description sounded really good,
which should be future movie parties.If you guys want to sign up for
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our Patreon, we can watch themwith hell yeah, can you act along
with us? Well sort of ifyou can type while we act. So
one of them was The Haunting,which came out in nineteen sixty three,
and the description that the person whowrote this listical wrote was Robert Wise's Haunted
House Chiller, based on Shirley Jackson'snovel The Haunting of Hillhouse locks two women
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in a mansion and watches as theyboth lose their minds to fear. Now
it's rating, says gee, butdon't let that convince you to watch in
the dark. The film's sound andeffects will make you want to leave the
lights on. Well, I alwayswant to leave the lights on. But
somebody, Yeah, that's why hehas to be involved, because movie horror
movies are meant to be watched inthe dark. You wouldn't watch The Avengers
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in the light, would you?Maybe? Maybe I would know you would
at all? No, you woulddon't lie. Avenger isn't scary. I
know. Captain America can pop outat me anytime, specifically his butt cheeks.
That's America's ass. And the otherone was released in en thirty two,
and it's called The Most Dangerous Game. A yacht hits a coral reef
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and sinks off the western coast ofSouth America, sending the only survivor,
Bob Brainsford, big Game Hunter,to seek shelter at a nearby chateau on
the island. What Bob doesn't knowis that the mansion's owner, Russian count
Tazarof also loves to hunt, althoughhis definition of game is very different,
and it's what keeps the suspense intensionbuilding throughout. David O sells Nick's quick
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moving caton mouse game? Is thatbase off of a short story? I'm
not sure, because I've read ashort story that sounds just like that.
Yes, it is based off ofit. The short story short story is
called The Most Dangerous Game, alsopublished as The Handzos are Off by Richard
Connell in nineteen twenty four. Soit is base off of a big game
hunter from New York City that felloff a yacht and swims to an isolated,
(44:50):
abandoned island in the Caribbean and huntedby a Russian aristocrat. Oh yeah,
that's definitely it. So it wasoriginally published in a nineteen twenty four
newspaper. Where did you read it? World Lit? Class in college?
I was like, that sounds familiar. So I wonder if, like me,
the person who wrote that had neverread or even heard of that story.
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Interesting then there in twenty twenty two, there was also a remake of
the nineteen thirty two movie. Ohwe should watch that. Yeah, we
should watch them both and then comparethem compare and contrast. We're like in
school again. Well yeah, becauseI literally read this story in school too.
Oh see, it's all full circle, all coming back. We're gonna
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Down this road is a small city, once thriving, full of life,
but now desolate and abandoned. Wellabandoned save for the horrors rumored to reside
within, which I presume is whileyou're here. Now, there's nothing wrong
with a little morbid curiosity, butplease remember to stay close to your guides.
You wouldn't want anyone to get leftbehind. Now, Hello tourists,
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and welcome back to the Nopeville greenRoom where your tour guides. I'm Jen
and I'm Christine. And if you'renew here or you didn't catch our last
episode, our green Room series isjust a casual conversation in the green room
while we're waiting for a tour,and we just talked about different things.
So last time we talked about horrorvideo games, what we liked, what
we didn't like, and now thisweek we're going to be talking about classic
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horror movies. And for reference,what we mean when we say classic is
before we were born. It wasreleased sometime before we were born, which
was nineteen eighty eight, so yes, also another sort of preface, the
two of us haven't seen a lotof older horror films. We're just kind
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of recently getting our toes wet intothat because we're realizing that they're not all
like, not so great, whichis kind of the perception when you see
the some of the real practical effectsthat maybe do or don't hold up,
depending which we will talk about.Yes, So we have movies ranging from
nineteen thirty one all the way upto nineteen eighty four on our list of
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things that we've seen. Damn,it's almost one hundred years ago. Oh
my god, one hundred years ofhorror movies. If y'all wanted to feel
old, you're welcome. I don'tthink anybody listening to this was around in
nineteen thirty one. No, butthat may have been their movies back then,
where we look at the eighties moviesand we're like, oh man,
that classic slasher film that was theirs. Yeah. So I want to say
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that the thought originally kind of cameto mind for us of how well certain
movies have held up against the testof time was when Jen had to watch
Night of the Living Dead. Yes, for our zombie episode which going into
Night of Living Dead, I didn'thave super high hopes for it because it's
in black and white, and Iknow as a pre judgment, but we
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all do it. Yeah. Iwas like, this is in black and
white. It's going to be aslow pace, it's not going to be
scary, like it's a zombie movie, what can they really do? But
after watching it, I thoroughly enjoyedit and is definitely one of my favorite
classic horror movies. And I feellike it really held up. And I
feel that the reason why is becausethe effects, even in black and white,
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they were portrayed really well. Andthe main character Ben, he was
smart from start to finish, whichthat's one thing that I really like about
horror movies is when the character issmart, where you're yelling at the TV
or something and you're like, whyare you doing that? Do this?
And then they go do that.You're like, okay, so that wouldn't
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have worked. Yeah. So yeah, That's not something that I would have
thought would have played out very wellin a movie from the sixties, but
it did. And then I alsohad to watch Donna the Dead and I
was like, oh, I reallyenjoyed Nine of the Living Dead, so
Donna the Dead must also be great. This is a classic zombie movie.
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It was redone. People always referenceit highly revered yes, highly revered.
It has like a cult following,and I watched it and might be controversial,
but I hated it. That wasa waste of my time. I
wanted my time back. I wouldhave watched Night of the Living Dead over
again if I had the option.So comparing the two though, what made
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Donna the Dead fall flat for you? The characters made a lot of stupid
moves. It very much felt likea parody zombie movie like Shaun of the
Day, right, but was takingitself too seriously on top of that.
Yes, so that's the difference isthat Shaun of the Dead is meant to
be a comedy, and then Donnathe Dead took itself way too seriously.
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And then they tried to weave inthe social commentary about how people consume too
much, which is why even thoughthey're dead, they just do what they
did in normal life and crowd themalls because that's all people did. They
consume. So they thought that wouldbe a safe place because it's always safe.
Yeah, and so they thought itwas a point point that they made
it. Yeah, But then seethe thing is I also didn't like the
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remake. I thought the remake wascheesy and again they made dumb moves,
and I thought, Okay, theremake was stupid, but maybe the original
was better. No, they bothsuck. So the I just literally remade
the stupid movie stupid, yes,but in a modern twist, I guess
modernly stupid. So Night of theLiving Dead yes, still holds up Donna
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the Dead, both the original andremake. No things right. So also
taking another film that I wasn't entirelysure about, but I watched it.
This one I watched out of purecuriosity while researching Bella Lugosi. Yeah,
and as Dracula, which came outin nineteen thirty one, so they didn't
have all of the technology and stuffthat we have now. In my opinion,
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I didn't hate watching it. Idefinitely enjoyed my time watching it.
I wouldn't I don't know if i'dwatch it again. I wouldn't go out
there ravings saying, oh my god, you have to see this movie.
But I also wouldn't turn somebody offif they wanted to watch it. So
they did a decent enough job withlike sound effects, and in order to
make Dracula super scary, they reallyliked to focus on the intensity of Bella
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Lugosi's eyes for some reason, likethat would be the only thing you could
see in the scene. Was justlike there's dark across the top, dark
around the bottom, but it's justlike this, I don't want to call
it a beam of light per se, but just you know, this light
across his eyes as maybe he's peekingthrough the window or whatever. I remember
there being brides of some kind,but they didn't play much of a role,
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so that felt weird. I don'tknow if it was just the idea
of, oh, Dracula collects womenbecause that's what Dracula does. I'm not
sure. But they built tension welland the payoff was okay, it was
It was a kind of nice seeingwhere modern vampire things stemmed from. Yeah,
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I didn't see too much of theelements of modern vampires in it.
I'm trying to remember if he spentmuch time out during the daylight or if
it was literally just the nighttime thing. And I don't recall there being too
much focus on the things that wouldweaken him. He was just a bizarre
guy. Maybe he was just abizarre guy that's rude. Well in a
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vampire Welcome to humanity, yep,and it's made that much worse on the
Internet. Yes, So another movieyou had to watch for research was The
Thing. Oh yeah, I thoroughlyenjoyed The Thing that came out in nineteen
eighty two. Yeah. I reallyliked the practical effects. They were really
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gross and convincing, and for anearly eighties movie, the effects were really
good. I like the storyline.I liked seeing that in modern times.
I liked the among Us kind ofthing going on. I know that's why,
I know that's where among Us isfrom. But it was funny seeing
it in retrospect, you know,right, and everybody's just pointing fingers at
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each other, and it was verylike I couldn't you couldn't predict who actually
was infected or who the thing was. And I really liked that about it,
and I liked how it ended,where it kind of left it up
in the air whether Kret Russell's characteris dead or not. Yeah, I
think most people lean on him,you know, having sacrificed himself, but
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it kind of it kind of endsin a kind of a vague spot where
he could he could have he couldn'tsee. I like stories that do that,
where they kind of do this thingwhere the end of the story is
really up to you. I thinkyou did that with one of your stories
once, where it was kind oflike, depending on your mood or your
mindset when you went into the story, is how you view the way the
story came to an end, whichI think it's clever on a storyteller's part.
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Also leaves it open for a sequel. Yeah, and if you think
it ended horribly, then that's yourmindset going. I didn't say that's what
happened, but I did, Likein the beginning, it's just kind of
a weird opening scene where you seethis person speaking of foreign language shooting at
a dog and you see that andyou're like, why are you shooting at
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this dog? Why are you tryingto kill this dog? Turns out the
dog is the thing, and thetransformation when the dog transformed, it was
so creepy, but like it wasso well done. The effects in that
movie is just amazing, and wewatched it behind the scenes of it,
and so much work goes into thesepractical effects. It's amazing, like the
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artistry and to make it look scaryand realistic, and the things you have
to think of to make blood looklike blood and also do what you wanted
to do, or like that thisperson's arms got chopped off, or you
know, this dog transformed into thismonster. Like it's amazing. Yeah,
the unsung heroes of any film fromshit the start of time when we started
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making films, or of the specialeffects people. Also the musicians, Yes,
because you can't have a good filmwithout a score that does well.
Actually, that's not entirely true.Case in point, the Birds. So
The Birds came out in nineteen sixtythree, and that was an Alfred Hitchcock
film that had no music what's whatever, no music at all, none interesting,
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and that was a creative choice onhis part. So this movie,
in My Mother's Mind is one ofthe scariest movies ever of all time.
Now, I can't say I necessarilyagree the green screen is very apparent in
today's viewing. But having said that, he does do the atmosphere pure justice,
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where there's a moment of calm amidstall the chaos that's happened with the
birds, like destroying this little town, and one of the protagonists walks out
of this house in the entire frontyard is covered in birds just standing there.
They're literally just standing there. They'reall real birds too, they're all
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in the trees. Yep, they'reall real birds. So it's not that
I would probably would have laughed at. But he's yeah, it's just all
these little fake stuffs birds just sittinglike little lawn flamingos or something. Oh
my god. So yeah, he'swalking out. I can't remember if he's
going to the truck or the carwhere he's going because it's been a long
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time since I've seen it. SoI just kind of saw this clip recently,
and he's just walking through the birdsare, you know, very carefully
moving out of the way of hisfeet. He doesn't kill any of them
by stepping on them or anything.God forbid you start those up and going
because you killed one. Yeah,But it's just like I think Hitchcock said
that he had like a low sortof like hum where it's almost like an
engine sitting idol on purpose. Soit's almost like these things are just waiting,
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yeah, right, exactly, anticipationexactly. See, you haven't even
seen it, and it's you feelit. Yeah. Yeah. And then
I watched a video yesterday that talkedabout it and actually compared this movie to
being similar to like a zombie film, which I thought was interesting. I
never would have thought of that.But the difference between a zombie film and
this one is that in a zombiefilm, there's still very clear goals and
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motivations to what the zombies do,even if it is just consume or whatever.
With the birds, the fact thatthey just stop for no apparent reason,
they don't care about us. Andthen they talked about how the way
Hitchcock built the plot lines of thisstory is around like all these things that
each of the main characters are goingthrough with. You know, one woman
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figuring out that she's in love withthis man, and but she also meets
up with the woman he used tobe with, and the reason she's not
with him anymore is because mother inlaw kind of sucks and they meet mother
in law and so there's all thislike love triangle bullshit going on, and
then the birds attack it. Allof that just goes out the window because
we're still it's mood exactly because ourmotivations are plans, the things we want
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in life, the way we viewthe world doesn't matter to nature, and
it was beautifully illustrated in this movie, which is crazy because again didn't think
about it. We'll watching it,but this guy's analysis was amazing. Make
sure we post that somewhere. Butyeah, yeah, I wonder if that's
maybe inherent, like subconsciously. Butmy mom thinks it's such a terrifying film,
probably because I think we've talked aboutthis. I don't remember which tour
it was, but we were talkingabout movies like The Strangers or Hush or
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something like that where there's no motiveor the killer. That is what's scary
is that there's no reason for thesepeople to be here killing these other people.
And it's that not knowing why inthe end of The Strangers, where
it's like why me because you werehome? Yeah, kind of a thing.
And I think that, like yousaid, the anticipation building up with
the birds, like there's no rhymeor reason why these birds aren't attacking and
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they never explained it. They didthat on purpose, where there's there's no
reason, so that it could veryreal. You know. Obviously the odds
of it happening incredibly low, butit could, Yeah, and we'll have
a reason maybe. Then it's likethose memes that are let's say, the
chances of being attacked by a birdor unlikely but not zero or something like
that. Yeah, something like thatwhere it's like, yeah, see,
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and they had this whole They havethis little scene where the you know,
there's this older lady that says somethingabout, oh, birds would never harm
a soul or something like that,and I think it's before anything happens.
I think the only thing that happensthat would have even brought the conversation up
is when the main lady is comingto shore to see the guy that she
was surprising by being there. Aseagull comes down and just like gets her
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in the head and flies away.That's it, sucks up her hair a
little bit and leaves. Yeah,that's it, and then there's nothing.
The guy even describes it. Hesays, there's there was nothing for that
whole half hour until that, andthen nothing for another half hour after that.
So now half the movie's gone byand you've had one bird attack.
Yeah, and you've had all thisbuild up of all this story of why
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humans do what we do, andthen the birds come in and suddenly none
of it. There's no payoff forany of it. It stops. It's
just a dead stop for all ofthat. I also think. What's scary
about that whole aspect is you goabout your daily life and not thinking of
anything, and then all of asudden, the birds are stalking you and
just waiting for their chance to attack. But that's also just real life in
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general. You go about your life, you know, Okay, robberies happened,
people, things happen to people unfortunate. Think that would never happen to
me. Why would it happen tome? Yeah, it does. And
then now every time you go dothat innocuous, inane thing, it's in
the back of your head that thiscould happen to me. Again, statistics
don't matter if you're part of itexactly, you were not part of the
statistic. But I want to goback to practical effects real quick. We
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recently watched Alien, Yes your firsttime. I was obsessed with the set.
The whole time we are watching.I was like, this movie is
from the seventies, yep. Iwas so surprised it looked I don't.
I mean it could be because alot of modern you know, extraterrest show
movies might use Alien as a backdrop. Yeah, but it looked great.
The set looked great, the effectslooked great. The puppetry of the alien
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looked great. I really thoroughly enjoyedthat movie. You know, I'm surprised
that one how old it is,too, that I hadn't seen it earlier
in my life. But also,the alien wasn't a puppet. It was
a man in a suit. Wedid not know that. We found that
out from we were watching this witha patron, actually a couple of them,
and one of them mentioned that,and I looked it up and it
was crazy to see that. Yeah, it was, in fact just a
man in a suit. I wassurprised at how little you see the alien,
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but again as the anticipation, it'sthe stocking of it. Yeah.
But I also feel like that bringsme to something I've thought about since we've
decided we were going to talk abouthorror movies. Is I feel like older
movies took this sort of less ismore approach. I know that they mostly
did it because it was easier totell the story without having to worry about
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how to make this grand thing happenon screen in a way that's convincing.
It's better to just tone it downjust enough so it's there. But that
also makes you rely on building aproper atmosphere, which they did because you
know, you have this guy that'sbrought in against protocol with this thing on
his face. Yeah, they leavehim alone in the lab. You're like,
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why just out when they have thisperfectly good thingy that they could just
keep him in little incubator type thing. I don't know, and they left
him out. You're just saying,why are you doing that? Yeah?
Where did it go? Because iteventually disappears? Where did it go?
And you know it's going to popout at you at some point? Yeah,
I mean we all, even yougoing into it. You know how
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aliens work sort of like you know, the chess burst or is a thing
you may not have understood the processof how it works, I guess before
you went into exactly you see whena monny alien and a daddy human fall
in love, you get the chessbursterscene, which none of the cast knew
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what was going to happen the wayit did. Oh interesting, So their
reactions are genuine. That's fine,which again I think director is doing that
is fantastic if it's done ethically.There's definitely been situations where they've done these
things that have severely traumatized people.Chainsaw mass Here Yes, yes, which
is also on my list that holdsup Blair Witch Project. Oh yeah,
I wonder how those people are doing. But yeah, I feel like with
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the less is more approach, Idefinitely agree because if you do too much,
it takes you out of it wherethere are so many good horror movies
leading up until the end when youhave to fight the monster. The whole
hour and a half you invested inthis movie then just goes down the drain
because you're like, well, that'snot sacary, but building up the atmosphere
at the anticipation, having a goodactor to react to the things, even
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though the actors know that it's fake, having the good actors reacting to it.
Because I watched the original Grudge theJapanese Grudge, and I know a
lot of people and this is goingto be controversial, but I appreciated the
American one more jen the controversial one. Yes, I was more convinced that
the actors in the American one wereactually scared, but in the Japanese one,
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I couldn't believe that the actress wasscared. I'm like, this girl
just ripped her drawf and you're juststaring there with your mouth open. I've
seen that with a lot of screwvideo games usually. Yeah, there was
one in Foreign one that one ofthe YouTubers I watched was playing. I
can't remember what it's called right now, but so many of the characters were
just still on their bullshit the entiretime, where they're just they you know,
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someone will come in to be like, oh my god, this person
just died and they go, ohha ha, real funny, and then
they don't even bother to go investigate. They're just kind of this person stupid.
Yeah. But speaking of movies thatpeople will say at the scariest movie
in their life, like your momsaying that The Birds was for her,
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I've heard a lot of people saythat The Extorcist was the scariest movie for
them. Now again, effects andthe age of the movie, and probably
the timing. I watched that movieas an adult, and having watched a
lot of horror movies in my lifeleading up until the time I watched The
Extracist, I didn't think it wasscary. Yeah, So when I first
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watched it, I was school age. Couldn't tell you. I think I
was high school. I don't remember. I was apparently old enough to be
left alone in the house, whateverage that is at our generation, but
everybody was gone. I had rentedthis movie because that was still a thing,
and Hollywood video Blockbuster blockbuster of course, because that was around the corner.
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So we or we nothing. Itwas just me, just me up
by my lonesome. Everybody left.I remembered hearing this was the scariest movie
ever, and so I put iton. It was still kind of daylight
outside, but like the sun wasgoing down, kind of daylight. So
by the time all of the Exorcismstuff is happening, especially the spider walking
down the stairs scene, it's pitchedblack in my house. I hadn't turned
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any lights on, perfect exactly,there wasn't a single light on in that
goddamn house. And I just suddenlyrealized how very alone I was in that
moment, and it was very dark, and I got up, I possible
if it got up, very gingerly, but also quickly went to go turn
on the first lights which I couldfind, and then I was able to
resume the movie and I was okay, but again it still hit me a
certain way, And then years laterI remembered again scariest movie ever. This
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was great. I remember being soscared of it. Showed it to my
best friend at the time. Theonly jump scarce she got was when I
scared her because there's a scene wherethey're doing the archaeological big thing and guy
reaches his hand in this deep darkhole and nothing happens. There's no payoff.
But while he's doing it, Ijust turned to her and went She
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jumped out of her skin, andthe rest of the movie was just blah,
Yeah, which is what I feltlike when I watched it. But
I can understand that the product ofits time, where it was the first
type of a movie like that.It was like satanic panic at the time,
right, So people were just likescared of legit demonic possessions. And
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I can put myself in those people'sshoes and empathize. Yeah, but it
just wasn't scary for me. Yeah, because I've seen we're literally talking about
this, we've seen classic horror moviesthat scared us. Yeah, like Halloween,
Yes, the original Halloween. WhoI was scared of it because after
I'd watched it, we went andstayed in a cabin and I kept thinking
that Michael Myers was going to bustthrough our doors. Stayed in another cabin
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after watching a horror movie. Ifeel like no so that the first time
I stayed in that cabin it wasbecause of Halloween. Now the second time
I stayed in the cabin is becauseof Hush. I know. That's what
I mean. It seems like itseems like you watch a horror movie and
then you go stay in a cabinlike a crazy person, and then you
wonder why we send you scary memes, thinking it's fun rude. So it's
my birthday recently, and we stayit in a cabin, same cabin,
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same cabin. In two different textthreads, my so called best friend sends
me a gift of the Hush Guy, and then like seconds later, in
another text thread, my brothers aresending gifts of Jason. Mind you,
this is after she tells me shehas no service or the service isn't great,
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service isn't great. We're literally sittingoutside around the fire pit, so
you know, our eyes are adjustedto the light of the fire and everything
around us is pitch black, andthey're sending me memes of horror movies.
Great, thanks guys, because welove you. And we want you to
be safe. Don't ever forget thedanger in the woods. Kids. I
never forget the danger. You don'tknow what goes on in I think about
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this stuff way too much. Toquote my niece and nephew on the fourth
of July, watch Out Kids.So funny it sound advice, Watch Out
Kids. But speaking of Halloween,though, did you know that it was
originally titled The Babysitter Murders? Weird? Interesting? I found that while I
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was looking through a list of whatexactly as a classic horror film? Is
that supposed to be based off ofthat urban legend of like the call was
coming from the house? Kind ofa thing? I'm not sure? Like
Black Christmas? Will we watch that? I didn't like that. That movie
sucked. You don't like Black Christmas? No, did you? It wasn't
good. I'm sorry anybody who enjoyedthe original Black Christmas, I'm sorry I
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didn't enjoy it it all though.I did not have a good time with
that one. I know there's beeniterations since, but I read that of
them, this was the best one. So that's why we chose to watch
it with our patrons. Plus,I think for the most part, most
of us hadn't seen that one isvery much giving Dona the Dead. You
should watch the original. Noodn't havewatched either of them. And also I
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remember reading some of the descriptions andstuff and being like, these ones don't
trop this. God, this onesounds all right, but it was another
one where something happens to someone andnobody really investigates it, which I guess
isn't the core problem of the moviereally, since most horror movies based their
premise off of this. But thisgirl dies at like the start of the
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film, and they all just assume, without ever having seen her leave the
house, that she must have left. Yeah, she must have gone on
holiday or whatever. Yeah, shemust have left early to go back home.
And then they get these creepy assphone calls and they do almost nothing
about them. I think they triedto call the cops once, and the
cops or pieces of shit, Yeah, where they just oh, you're just
college. But also, like towardsthe end, when the police were telling
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the girl not to go back intothe house, stay outside until we go
there, she goes back into thehouse. Yeah. I don't even remember
why, because I think she herfriend screaming or she was trying to get
her friend to come with her,but at that point her friend was already
dead, right, and she wentto go investigate, and then she goes
into the room and sees her friendin the bed, all bloody and murdered.
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But this is after, like thecops said, we're on our way,
meet us outside, do not goback in the house, and she
straight up runs back into the houseand she very much knew she answers the
phone again. Yeah, yeah,at this point she was very obvious what
was going on. Yeah, butshe had to play heroin and run into
the house and then get herself messedup. Yeah, it was It was
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stupid. I didn't like that one. That one. The story is,
story plays a lot, story playsa big role. So yeah, that
comes back to something you were sayingearlier. Were some of the even recent
movies where they have great build upand they did a good job and then
they hit the end and they don'tknow how to finish it for some reason,
And it just kind of the biggestthing for me for that's not a
classic horror movie, but mirrors.Do you remember that movie Key for Sutherland
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that starred in it. But itwas great up until the end. So
it was spooky and that there wassome other world in the mirror and it
could manipulate your reflection and then itaffects you in real life. So the
biggest thing is there was this girl. She looks in the mirror and then
her reflection is like opening up herjaw, and then she happens in real
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life and literally just opens her jawuntil it just snaps. And that was
like one of the scenes that sticksin my head for forever. But it
was creepy. Every time you passa reflection or pass a mirror, something
creepy was happening. And then atthe end, the monster shows up and
it's like like Silent Hill or ResidentEvil and the monster just like running across
the walls and you're just like killingit like you're an action hero, and
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it was really disappointing. That remindsme of another movie I watched and I
can't think of what it was.It was it was it was something I
watched for research and I cannot rememberthe life of me what it was.
Where. Yeah, when it showedup, it was just kind of there
and you're just okay, Yeah,Signs was like that for me. Yeah,
signs was disappointing. Yeah, onceit showed up, it was like,
oh everybody else and I went,oh okay, Yeah, aliens don't
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scare me unless it's from alien.Yea, unless it's the Xenomorpha that scary.
See. That was one that likeit built the tension. You didn't
see the monster much, but thenyou get to the end and you think
it's gone, You think it's dead, but it's not. And it's so
it carried on just that little bitmore to make her that much more badass
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by actually killing this thing, orat least I think get into the vacuum
of space, which you assume itdies. Oh no, because then it
tries to cling to the thruster andgets burnt. But you know, it
had a decent ending that still keptyou on that high of oh my god,
it wasn't dead. And just thefact when she was slithering into her
space suit, just you know,one limb at a time, and then
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just watching the alien. The alienwas sleeping so cutely on top of the
console. Hey don't mind me,just take me with like a little croissant,
just like the cat. Also bonuspoints for being a badass. She
saved the cat, so fuck.Yeah. Although she was very rough with
the cat torch, she's very roughwith the carrier. Yeah, but we
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can overlook that since she saved thecat. Most people start to save the
thing and then forget about the thingand you never know what happened to whatever
it was. Yeah, she laidher life on the line for the cat.
She did. There was a moviethat I remembered really loving back when
I first saw it in high schoolthat a lot of people love. You
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may not like what I'm going tosay about it now, I'm sorry because
I did watch it again recently.No, not you, you haven't seen
it. I don't think you kindof like it when you do. Okay.
The Evil Dead one came out innineteen eighty one, and the effects
are not good and they are allover the place. Is it supposed to
be campy? Though? I don'tthink the first one one was m The
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rest of them definitely are, butI don't think the first one was supposed
to be. I'm really interested tosee the new one. I haven't yet,
but it looks creep I heard itwas. It looks disgusting. Yeah,
but like you know, a goodway. Yeah exactly, not like,
oh I wouldn't go see it becauseit looks gross. Yeah, but
yeah I decided, like, youknow what, fuck it, I'm gonna
watch it again sometime recently. Itwas after one of our movie nights actually,
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okay, And just the way likefleshed terrors and the way the plants
move because there's the forest is alive, man, and just the makeup was
not good and unlike the less ismore approach like most of the older movies
took, it was not there.It was it was more is more and
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like you could have done with less. Yeah, it probably would have been
better if there was a lot lessof what they were trying to do,
but they they definitely like they wentballs to the wall with that one.
Yeah, so that was a bummer. I do love Bruce Campbell, but
he definitely becomes a lot more unhingedas the series goes on, remember that
for sure. Yeah, I didn'tcare for that one. Speaking of movies
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that you watched when you were youngerand then again in your adulthood, yes,
Nightmare on Elm Street mm hmm.Yeah, so'll tear about that because
everybody, everybody knows how you feel. About this one. So, if
you've been following us since the beginningof this podcast, you know that Freddy
Krueger is still a nightmare to me. He haunted my dreams well into my
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adulthood. And I saw the movieonce when I was five, and so
Christine, lovely, lovely, Christine. Yeah, exposure therapies, let's watch
it. It's like, I don'twant to watch it. Freddy Krueger scares
the shit out of meat. Well, we have to see if it still
scares you. So we watched it, guess, and it was very campy,
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and it was that's scary. Yeah, the effects I don't feel like
held up like his face, Yeah, and I didn't. I don't remember
him being so jokey. Oh yeah, he's a don't just remember the phone
call and then him licking through thephone. Yeah, and it which also
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looks bad now yeah, tell it'sa rubber of tone. Yeah. So
I don't like the effects held upreally well, it doesn't scare me anymore,
So thanks Christine. See, I'mnot a horrible person. I just
do terrible things. Sometimes we shouldput a slogan on a shirt. I'm
not a horrible person. I justdo terrible things. We also watched Ambityville
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Horror or you did for Yeah,I watched the original one, which I
felt like I enjoyed it because Ihad researched the storyline very thoroughly before going
into it, and based off ofthe research I did and how the movie
played out, it was very accurateto the story that the letz Is talked
about, which I appreciated because veryoften we go, we do research about
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a topic and then we watched themovie based off of it, and you're
just like, that didn't happen.That didn't happen. That was different.
Who are these people looking at you? The devil? Maybe do it?
All of the conjuring movies, thatwas the one that really hit though,
because we didn't see the movie untilwell after we had researched it. Yeah,
yeah, so that's disappointing. Disappointing, But that's what I liked about
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Amityville Horror. It was very loyalto the source material, whether or not
you believe it. But how werethe effects then? They had, like
the slime on the walls and shit, Yeah that was cool. Was it
convincing? Yeah? But I thinkfor the most part, you just it's
because you just see George go offthe rails. M is what makes it
scary is he's unpredictable and he goesfrom the happy, go lucky guy to
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this very cold story man. Right, So that my little gasp for just
a second ago talking about effects andwhether or not they held up well was
I was thinking of the Poltar guyswhen we watched that, yeah for a
movie night, and that scene whenthe guy is looking at his face in
the mirror and he starts pulling hisye off. Yeah, that was gross
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even now and very well done.Yeah, yeah, and super unnecessary.
But well, so that was myfirst time watching Faltergeist and that was like
two years ago. Oh wow,that was Yeah, that was one of
our first movie nights with our patrons. But I really liked it. I
thought that the storyline was was reallygood and the characters didn't make stupid decisions.
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I felt like, yeah, youdidn't move the bodies exactly. Yeah,
that movie was. That movie waswell done. The swimming pool,
a swimming pool with the with thereal skeletons, Yeah, and it Yeah,
wouldn't you just feel cursed? Imean we did talk about that being
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a cursed movie set yeah, butI liked that everybody was just on board
what was happening right away. Therewas no doubt how typical stereotype on one
of the partners. Usually the fatherdoesn't believe what's going on, but just
immediately everybody's like one, I sawthat stuff started happening with Carol. Everybody
just believed her immediately. They justgot on board what they needed to do
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to try to rescue her. Theybrought in the medium. Yeah, but
it wasn't until after she disappeared though. I mean some of them had seen
some things, but I think stillthe mom was the one who was seeing,
like the stuff stacking in the kitchenand all that kind of stuff.
But yeah, it wasn't like thisweird thing where the girl disappears and it's
like, what have you gone?Mother? It was yeah, okay,
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well how do we get her back? Yeah? Yeah, the medium was
an interesting an interesting individual. Yeah, did you watch Johns when you were
younger? I did watch Johns whenI was younger, But I feel like
that's one of those ones where Ineed to watch again as an older person
because I'm still scared to go inthe water. But we know that I
have a fear of deep water.Oh yeah, no, that's not going
away. But even when I'm ina pool, I'm just like, there's
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there's a shark down there. Isit really just a shark thing or just
a ambiguous what could be down there? I think my mind wants to say
a shark because sharks are real andit's scary. Yeah. If I just
let my mind go rampant, thenit makes it even scarier. I sent
you the video of what you're supposedto do when a shark approach is here.
You're supposed to stop flapping your mirror. You're supposed to push its head
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away, but you're not supposed tolike panic swim away. Yeah. Yeah,
because it attracts the movement attracts it. Yeah, exactly. I couldn't
remember if I sent it to you, as well as other people are not.
Yeah. So I saw Johns whenI was young and it bored me
to tears. So to this day, I still haven't seen the whole movie.
I do know the quote, doyou think it warrants a rewatch?
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I mean, because we're gonna needa bigger boat? Is it weird?
I think no, it's you're goingto need a bigger boat, But yeah,
I would be down to watch it. Can't guarantee I won't get bored,
but I might not because I,as an adult, I understand that
movies have other plot besides monster eatingpeople. Right when I was a kid,
it was very much just there's noshark happening. It's just a lot
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of boring adults talking, boring adultthings talking. Yeah, so I just
was I don't want to watch this. So yeah, I would probably watch
that one again, just to seewhat the big deals about. I've seen
there's some cities where they'll screen iton on a projector while you're in the
ocean. No, on inner tubes, like the shallow portion of the other
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it doesn't matter. No, that'sa little too immersive for me. Oh
thank you. Another classic horror moviethat I watched recently but not younger,
was The Shining, and I likedit. I liked The Shining, No,
I hated the fact that the entiremovie the caretaker Dick is coming to
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save them because Danny has the Shiningand has been telepathsal communicating with him right
the entire movie. The entire movie, you see his journey coming back to
the Overallook Hotel, and then hestupidly announces himself when he walks in,
give Jack the opportunity to then ASTshim in the back, and then he
dies immediately asks him a question.But what was funny is one we had
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watched the Simpson's Treehouse of Horrors episodeimmediately after, and seeing the small little
easter eggs of things from the moviethat were in the cartoon was really funny,
Like, for instance, Dick's roomat the Overlook had pictures of all
these like sexy women, and thenin the Simpsons episode, the caretaker Willie
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has all these sexy Scottish women aroundhis little cabin like that was. Another
interesting detail is that their names areDick and Willie had to translate over to
the cartoon. But I don't know. I think that's just a coincidence because
his name is just Willie in general. He's always the caretaker. His name
is Willie in general. But whynot choose him because he has a Dickey
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name. There are other characters thatcould have been mo. They chose Willie
on purpose, true, But yeah, I did. I did enjoy it.
I liked at the end Wendy justlike Grab Danny. It was just
let's go we gotta go. Whocares about Jack? And then Jack rees
suggest yeah, which she was allabout herself and her son and was able
to get out by herself as well. She should be. Oh. One
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older movie that I would like youto see though, that I watched for
our Mother's Day episode is Friday thethirteenth. Yeah, I haven't seen the
original one yet, it's good.We watched the one with Jared Patti Lenkey,
Yes, which is also good.Way, I enjoyed that. And
then because that tells like I haven'tseen the original Texas Chainsaw mask here,
but I watched the one on Netflixthat came out recently, and that sucked.
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Yeah, it don't. Don't wasteyour time. It's stupid. Yes,
it's not even like stupid funny.It's just stupid. Like you lose
brain cells watching it. Yes,it makes you feel bad. It deserves
zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Ohit doesn't. What is it? Actually?
It does not deserve the thirty onepercent it has thirty one percent.
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Yes, I've seen Keanu Reeves movieswith lower percent that we're way better than
them. In fairness, I'm startingto go away from the Rotten Tomato scores.
Because nine times out of ten theydon't seem to be all that accurate.
Yeah, we've definitely seen movies thathad a really bad score and been
like but why though, I thinkwhen that comes to mine was Gothica.
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Yeah, I've enjoyed that movie,but it got such low ratings. Yeah,
I have like a twenty percent,which is okay. I mean,
did you send people who don't likesuspense thrillers because I could see why you'd
hate it. Yeah, I justI don't put any stock into those ratings
anymore. I look at like audienceratings because those audience ratings are more accurate.
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Yeah, not that rotten tomatoes aren'treal people, but they may as
well not be. They're biased.Yeah, they probably got paid to do
certain scores or not. Yeah,Texas Change saw Massacre held up pretty well.
I feel like the reason it heldup so well, though, is
because they were trying so hard notto get an X rating that they took
a lot of stuff out. Soa lot of it's more or less left
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to the imagination. You don't actuallylike, I don't. I don't think
you see him ever use the chainsawon anyone. You're just it's implied elsewhere.
Okay, but in the recent onesthey don't censor that. Well what
happened nowadays audiences are so desensitized toviolence. It is what it is that
they can show you whatever. Keepin mind that nineteen sixty was the first
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time I got damn toilight flushing wasfeatured in movies, So people really clutch
my pearls had their sensibilities about themback in nineteen seventy four, very differently
than they do now, which againis why The Exorcist hits so hard for
people. Yeah, it was that. I mean, it was a thing.
It was a thing that nobody knewcould happen to people, and it
was again like a lot of moviesseem to have been put out there.
I was like, oh, thisis real. This happened based on a
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true story, right, which looselyboost I mean, Texas changed saw massacre.
They tried that too, and itwasn't even remotely because that never happened.
It was just there was like awhisper of Edgean. But even that,
I don't think it was intended.I don't think it was just a
thing Edgeen did. Yeah, sohis crimes had happened before the movie,
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But I don't think they tried tobase it off of him, maybe to
make some things a little creepier,like having lamp shades and stuff made out
of human skin, but referencing oldtimey toilets. Watching Psycho for research that
was actually much better than I expectedit to be, for sure. It's
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that hold up to it did evenknowing what the twist was. Yeah,
going into it, I still feellike Hitchcock did a really good job with
again the soundtrack at the time,because he obviously used a soundtrack in that
one. It didn't scare me obviously, because it doesn't. It takes a
lot to make me actually jump orfeel a type of fear. Not me,
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which is why I love watching cornermovies with you. Thanks, you're
the jump entertainment. There's a movieon the screen, but I'm your entertainment
a little bit of both, especiallyif ghost faces out there. No yeah,
no eyes on me, all eyeson him. Still enjoy your jumps
next to me, but in myperipheral, yeah, all eyes are still
a lot of ghost pace. Sothe actor who played Norman Bates did a
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good job of coming across is justcreepy enough that if you were in that
situation, you would not have trustedhim, but he was also seemingly normal.
But the interesting thing about that filmwas that there's only the one murderer
that you see happen, and thenthe rest of the movie is just kind
of people trying to figure out whatthe hell happened to this woman, which
everybody followed the leads the way theywere supposed to, had the proper suspicions.
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It was great. The plot wasgood, and then of course the
big reveal that mother is not anactual human living being. I feel like
the story on that one held upreally well. Let's yeh. Yeah.
There were a couple of movies onthe list of fifty three classic horror movies
that I haven't seen, but theybased on the description sounded really good,
which should be future movie parties.If you guys want to sign up for
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our Patreon, we can watch themwith hell yeah, can you act along
with us? Well sort of ifyou can type while we act. So
one of them was The Haunting,which came out in nineteen sixty three,
and the description that the person whowrote this listical wrote was Robert Wise's Haunted
House Chiller, based on Shirley Jackson'snovel The Haunting of Hillhouse locks two women
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in a mansion and watches as theyboth lose their minds to fear. Now
it's rating, says gee, butdon't let that convince you to watch in
the dark. The film's sound andeffects will make you want to leave the
lights on. Well, I alwayswant to leave the lights on. But
somebody, Yeah, that's why hehas to be involved, because movie horror
movies are meant to be watched inthe dark. You wouldn't watch The Avengers
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in the light, would you?Maybe? Maybe I would know you would
at all? No, you woulddon't lie. Avenger isn't scary. I
know. Captain America can pop outat me anytime, specifically his butt cheeks.
That's America's ass. And the otherone was released in en thirty two,
and it's called The Most Dangerous Game. A yacht hits a coral reef
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and sinks off the western coast ofSouth America, sending the only survivor,
Bob Brainsford, big Game Hunter,to seek shelter at a nearby chateau on
the island. What Bob doesn't knowis that the mansion's owner, Russian count
Tazarof also loves to hunt, althoughhis definition of game is very different,
and it's what keeps the suspense intensionbuilding throughout. David O sells Nick's quick
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moving caton mouse game? Is thatbase off of a short story? I'm
not sure, because I've read ashort story that sounds just like that.
Yes, it is based off ofit. The short story short story is
called The Most Dangerous Game, alsopublished as The Handzos are Off by Richard
Connell in nineteen twenty four. Soit is base off of a big game
hunter from New York City that felloff a yacht and swims to an isolated,
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abandoned island in the Caribbean and huntedby a Russian aristocrat. Oh yeah,
that's definitely it. So it wasoriginally published in a nineteen twenty four
newspaper. Where did you read it? World Lit? Class in college?
I was like, that sounds familiar. So I wonder if, like me,
the person who wrote that had neverread or even heard of that story.
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Interesting then there in twenty twenty two, there was also a remake of
the nineteen thirty two movie. Ohwe should watch that. Yeah, we
should watch them both and then comparethem compare and contrast. We're like in
school again. Well yeah, becauseI literally read this story in school too.
Oh see, it's all full circle, all coming back. We're gonna
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