July 18, 2023 • 59 mins
Today’s guest is a singer-songwriter with a powerful, captivating voice - Remi Wolf. Her innovative sound bends the rules of any genre. Norah and Remi talk about the ups and downs of a busy tour schedule, and the desire to find other creative outlets. Join us for intimate versions of songs from Remi’s catalogue, old and new, and Norah and Remi duet on a shared inspiration, Blossom Dearie. Recorded 4/26/23.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with
Remy Wolf.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm just playing long Weuzy, I'm just playing lone Weezy.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hi, I'm Norah Jones. Welcome to the show with me,
as always is Sarah Oda. Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hi, our guest today is incredibly talented and very sweet
singer songwriter Remy Wolf.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
We had so much fun.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, she's young, but she's covered a lot of basses.
She made her solo debut in twenty nineteen with her
EP called You're a Dog exclamation point.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I can hear her saying that today.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Has followed that up with the releases called I'm Allergic
to Dogs and we Love Dogs.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We do talk about dogs in this episode.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
And in twenty twenty one, she put out her first
studio album titled Juno. And this year she's played and
is scheduled to play some huge festivals from Coachella to
Governor's Ball to Bonnerou to the Newport Folk Festival and more.
She's just everywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
She's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
She's doing really great.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
She's an incredible singer.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, being in the room with her and hearing the
power from her voice was really special. And we had
a lot of fun. She is really interesting and her
songs are so great. And I heard about her from
a friend, so I didn't know her music very long,
and it was really fun that we got to connect.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Her voice in her songwriting is like truly her own thing,
and she can tell you can hear lots of different
influences sort of in there, which she talks about in
the episode.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, we had a blast, So please enjoy our hang
with Remy wolf.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
M dude likes joys in the midst You know, he
likes his movies from the Turn to Know and he knows.
(02:04):
He's always ready to gold just station gases on the
sweet wheel and he get it yecki get it.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Ha you got drunk? God don't be good.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
Oh so there is a disco and he's got a
lot of fiscal dance and the automic kiss smile.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
If you me me at the disco.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
Disco said, he's a discoment and he's got a lot
of fiscal lands and the atomic kiss my hand.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
If me at disco.
Speaker 8 (02:41):
This g he's ever drum time.
Speaker 9 (02:44):
He's all right.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
He's always just black tie with white guys.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Oh yeah, and he's looking in the sunshine.
Speaker 9 (02:55):
The dead lines oh.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
He and wusit all his moneybody never been a waste
of time.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
Said, that is a distor man, and he's got a
lot of fiscal plans.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
And you told I mean to kiss.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
My at the disco discus say that he is a
disco man and he's got a lot.
Speaker 10 (03:20):
Of fiscal plans, and to me to kiss my man
at the discal disc man.
Speaker 9 (03:29):
Yeah he get it. Yeah, yeah, he get it. We
got churn, got done, forgeted.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
So that is a disco.
Speaker 7 (03:42):
He's got a lot of fiscal bus and told me
to kiss me and.
Speaker 8 (03:48):
At the discal disco.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
Sa, that is a discover man and it's got a
lot of fiscal plans.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
And the tatomy to.
Speaker 10 (03:57):
Kiss my man, I had pisto disco. Up we are fine,
but we are fine. But up we are fine. Bye,
up we are fine, but up we are fine.
Speaker 9 (04:17):
Bute up we are fine. Bute up we are fine.
We are fine. Fine.
Speaker 11 (04:27):
Yah, yeah that fine.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
So that is a tisco and it's got a lot
of full school fans. I told him we could kiss
my hands, fem me, its disco disco.
Speaker 12 (04:50):
Yeah that was good, that was great, That's awesome. First pancake, Yeah,
first pancake, first pancake. That's all fun, squarely pancake. This
is this is a fun moment.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, you're doing something really cool.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I was playing the wrong chord, is what it was.
Speaker 8 (05:11):
But that was cool.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I don't know what I was doing.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I couldn't help. You were playing C sharp minor or?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Well, I was playing some major ship. I switched to
major real quick, and then I went back to the minor. Guys,
I was just hitting the bottom the bottom string. Yeah,
it's cool. It did it work? Yeah, okay, cool. I
love your voice, thank you. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's beautiful and like powerful and.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Earthy and all these things.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Sorry, that got it.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
No, that's good. I love that. Yeah, that's thank you. Yeah,
you're really powerful. Thank you. I feel like our voices
are quite different. We sing quite differently. Yeah we do, yeah,
which is awesome. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's great. Yeah. I
love your voice. By the way, I grew up on
your voice, did you. Yes? Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah that's so funny for me because I still feel
like i'm twenty, but I know i'm not.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, but that's awesome. Yeah, it's crazy. I've known your
songs for a long time studied them in school. That's crazy.
Did you study music in school? I did?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, where in the Bay Area.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well, yeah, when I was in high school, I studied
in the Bay because I grew up in the Bay.
I didn't go to like a music high school or
anything like that, but I was in kind of just
after school music programs and bands and stuff like that.
So I was learning a bunch of music, like pretty
much just repertoire time.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Any genre specific. Were you sort of in a certain genre?
Were you kind of all over the place? I was
super all over the place.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
That's great. Yeah, very all over the place, like Red Hot,
Chili Pepper, Stevie Wonder, a lot of the Beatles your
songs you not to include me, no, but that's it's true.
Speaker 13 (07:08):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
And then like like uptown Funk awesome, and like whatever
the pop radio was hitting at the time, so like
Maroon five and Wow. And then also like jazz stuff,
kind of like neo jazz shit, like snarky puppy stuff. Yeah,
and Hyat's coyote stuff and just a lot of different stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I feel like your neo jazz soul is It's funny
you say that, and I think Oh yeah, I grew
up on that too, but it's a different era, so
you're thinking snarky puppy. Those guys are my age, right,
they're from Dallas. And I was thinking, you know this
stuff before that, but like Jamiroqua, no, I was thinking
more like like neo soul. I guess, okay, like, yeah,
(07:53):
it's funny. Yeah, I don't even know it's funny how
I feel like it's like just this big ball and
you put everything in it and you shake it up
and then you just roll the dice and you're a
mix of all those crazy things that have been in
your head and out of your head.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I don't know why it's like now within the music
culture of you know, like Spotify and just I mean,
I guess just everything's like branded as like a genreists artist. Yeah,
And I don't know, like, I don't know why that
is happening now, but or why it's being labeled as
that now. And I feel like everything has kind of
(08:29):
always been that because it's constantly evolving. Yeah, but maybe
it's easier for us to put things in categories when
we're like looking back on it, because you're like, oh, well,
that stuff makes sense with that, so that's like hair metal.
Speaker 13 (08:42):
But at the time you're like, is this hair metal?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, I think people like to put things in boxes,
especially like record companies and marketing.
Speaker 13 (08:50):
They like to tie things up in a bow and
tell you what you like.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And yeah, that's just the way it used to be,
domb and I feel like with the way things are
now and spotif or any other streaming but mostly Spotify,
I mean, yeah, it's just changed everything. The way it's
done is just.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Turned upside down on its head kind of. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And I've always felt kind of like I hated being
told what I was because I always felt very out
of whatever it was they were telling me.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I was, What did they tell you you were?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I think for a lot some people would say I
was a jazz artist, and I came from that stuff
and I learned it, but I didn't feel like the
records I was making were jazz quote ungul So I
just I just think I just think it's always been
weird to label things.
Speaker 13 (09:34):
So yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, yeah, I don't even know how I started talking
about that about that, oh right, because we all listened
to all this shit and then it's just it is
the big puzzle in our brain that is subconscious that's
just coming out.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I wonder what it's going to be like in twenty
years when the kids of today listen to stuff more
randomly than I mean, you listen to stuff kind of
randomly though, but I feel like it's times one hundred.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
With the oh yeah, all over the place ness with
play with like playlisting and being able. Yeah, it's it's
weird because I feel like kids are they have the opportunity,
with algorithms and stuff now to like really find really
good music without even trying.
Speaker 13 (10:17):
Yeah, like you don't have to do shit.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Like all you have to do is be like, Okay,
here's this, I don't know this, like pointers sister's song,
and I'm going to put it on radio and then
I'm gonna hear all of these amazing songs from the seventies. Yeah,
it's sick, it is. And I use it too. I
use it too, and it's amazing. But I don't put
on records anymore. I know, and I should, I know,
(10:42):
and I love doing that. It's just I get lazy,
and yeah, it's all there. It's very rare that I do. Yeah,
it's extremely rare. I mean, I definitely don't put on vinyl, but.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's such a special thing, but a lot of people do.
A lot of people are into music. Yeah, people are
into music, but a lot of people are into vinyl now.
Speaker 13 (10:59):
So it's good. Yeah, it is good.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Do you sell your stuff on vinyl? I do? Yeah, yeah,
but I don't even have my own vinyl, like I
don't have You don't have a record player?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
No I do.
Speaker 13 (11:08):
You don't have your my vinyl record?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, on vinyl?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I have.
Speaker 13 (11:11):
I have a bunch of different records on vinyl, but
I never listened to them.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, well then you probably wouldn't listen to yours. Oh man,
it's so fun to meet you.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah. So I discovered you through Leon Michaels. Yes, yeah,
our good friend, Yeah, mutual good friend.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, who's incredible producer and musician. And yeah, I'm excited
you did some stuff with them. I don't know if
we're allowed to say.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
That, but yeah, I think we are. Okay, I've worked
with him.
Speaker 13 (11:39):
Yeah, the songs aren't out yet.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But they're not out yet.
Speaker 13 (11:41):
They're in my phone.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
He's well cool, I want to hear later. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
His whole thing is is cool. We were talking about
Homer and Nick and the best. Yeah, Homer Styiny Wised
and Nick Ma Sean and Diamond Mind recording.
Speaker 13 (11:57):
It's a cool crew.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And I feel like Le has turned me onto so
much music, yeah, because he's got great taste and he's
always like playing stuff. And he turned me onto this
Blossom Deary song and it was like, oh, man, and
I love Blossom Deary.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, but I had never heard that album. Yeah, the one,
the white one, the fifty year anniversary one. I forget
what it's called. Yeah, what is it called? Blossom Deary sings?
Speaker 14 (12:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, but it's like a seventies album or something.
Speaker 13 (12:24):
It's from the seventies.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So I always listen to her stuff from the sixties
and I never knew this album and it's incredible, and
he totally turned me onto it. And then when we're
talking on the phone about maybe we do a cover,
and he said, do you like Blossom Deary? And I
said yeah, And he said, do you know this song
Sunday Afternoon? And I said, did you get that from Leon?
Or did Leon get that from you? And it sounds
(12:46):
like Leon heard it from you.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I think Leon might have heard it from me. That's awesome,
I honestly think so. And then yeah, yeah, and then
he has gone on to show you, I guess, and
then also show another mutual friend, Clara, because I was
talking to Clara also about it, and we all have
this like random Leon blossom deary, like special studio moments.
(13:09):
Six degrees of Leon, six degrees of Blossom.
Speaker 13 (13:14):
Yeah, that's so strange.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It's great, But I feel like she is, like she's
weirdly this because I have a lot of friends my
age like female songwriters, and we all secretly love her secretly.
Why is it a secret. I think it's a secret
because not a lot of people know who she is,
and I feel like she is. Especially this album for me,
(13:38):
was like honestly mind blowing to me, like just the
fact that her songwriting was so witty and like charming,
and her voice is just so pure and she's like
shredding piano because all of her other records are like
kind of classic, like jazz standards, traditional more traditional jazz sounds,
(13:58):
and then these are like jazz songs, but they're pop songs,
but they're like smart and like sung by this tiny
little woman I know, and it's cool.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
She got like double vocals and there's a worry and
it's ates, but then there's overdubs and there's harmonies, and.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, it's just interesting.
Speaker 13 (14:16):
It's funky.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
It's funky.
Speaker 13 (14:18):
It's very unique, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The way she sings is so specifically different from anyone else.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, and all of her lyrics too, I think I
really resonate with They're very like there's like a almost
an evil longing to them, like over these men that
she like likes.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
She just paints of such a clear picture of her
like emotional state, and it's just beautiful and I relate
to it so much. That's cool. Yeah, I just love it.
But I feel like we keep it secret because it's
so like I don't want to say, it's like a
gatekeepy thing, but it like, for me, it just means
so much that I don't like showing people that much
unless I know that they're gonna like appreciate it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well, it's I was like wild wildfire though.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah. Yeah, you know, I feel bad because I've lived
in New York for twenty four years now, in the city,
and yeah, and I moved there when I was twenty
and she was playing every week, once a week at
this place called danny Skylight Room Danny's Skylight Room. I
(15:22):
think I never saw her because when you were living there, yeah,
I mean I was, and I loved her then, but
I just you know, you get busy and then when
somebody does a weekly gig, you kind of forget. I'll
go next week, I'll go next month. Yeah, oh I'm
busy this week.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I can't believe. I'm like kicked myself for that.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
She died, Yeah, and she was old then, so I
should have just gone yeah and kept going.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
That's crazy.
Speaker 13 (15:47):
She was doing weekly I know, but I think that's.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Also pretty badass, like so bad as I want to
do that when i'm yeah, I just want to play
once a week. That's enough.
Speaker 13 (15:57):
That's so enough.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Keep you young, know, that's how he's stay young. You
never have to leave the city. I guess that's why
people do the Vegas Many people come to them. Yeah,
just like live there, live in the MGM, never leave.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Maybe I'll do that in New York. I don't know, Yeah,
maybe in New York. I did nothing against Vegas, but.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I don't actually like Vegas. I was just in Vegas
last week, and it was the most fun I've had
in Vegas, really, but I was only there one day
and I just decided to gamble. Yeah it's fun when
you do that. Yeah, you just have to decide to gamble.
I was like, I'm gonna go max. I'm gonna lose
a max of two hundred dollars. That's why did you
go over? No, did you win anything? I overall lost
(16:43):
one hundred and forty dollars. That's great.
Speaker 13 (16:45):
But I was up at some time at some point.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So you wrote that you had a fun ride. I
was riding and then we were Honestly, the best time
was when it was me and my band and some
of my crew and we we all had just played
roulette like hours of electronic and we all were down.
So we're all like, okay, like as a last last
for off the night, we're gonna go to a slot
machine and just like put everything in the slot machine,
(17:08):
or put like twenty bucks in the slot machine. So
we went over to the Crazy Rich Asians slot machine,
which is a thing. It's a thing that they've created, okay,
I guess based off the movie. And we put twenty
bucks in that thing and five minutes later we had
three hundred and seventy five dollars. Wow, that was the most.
Like we were all just watching the numbers go up.
There's a video of us, just like all nine of
(17:31):
us watching the screen and the screen was one where
it kind of curves around you like a like a
convex mirror or whatever. Wow, and it was it. So
you're just like all encompass anyway. Yeah, gambling is crazy.
Vegas is crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Presidencies if you if you lean in the Vegas and
you you ride the ride, it's I've had fun nights
in Vegas. Yeah, oh, I've had really fun nights. It's
fun and the crowd is fun. We played a show
and the crowd was awesome. Oh they're always there at
a party. So yeah, there's no yeah, okay, I take
it back. I would do I don't know. I don't
know if i'm their company to you. But you will
(18:07):
play another song?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Sure? What should we do? You want to write a song?
You want to play a song?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Let's he could do woo woo woo. Yeah, let's do woo.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Okay, I practiced this one. Okay, I mean to practice
them all, but I have this one's crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Kind of Yeah, I'm gonna try to hold it down. Okay,
over here, I'm gonna I'll sing.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Mm love, what not go? And do you wake up with?
Speaker 12 (18:50):
So?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Don shove.
Speaker 14 (18:55):
Love?
Speaker 7 (18:57):
And it's not the so it's the said the questions,
not a bowl.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
It's so fine.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
Don't know the guy here ship only the jerk.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
I'm not good you.
Speaker 9 (19:15):
You don't buy your things?
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Noise what bab believe that.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
You got the feeling?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
You got nothing but feeling for you so hard? Got
lost a weekend?
Speaker 7 (19:34):
NIE's got but like a fuck up the surgery and
the ten to start telling me the flash of teeth
And I'm running out of ax goten Yeah, and I'm
running out of good Yeah. And I don't know what
I've beenie wanted Yeah, And fuck I think I lost
my wallet. Fuck, I think I lost my wallet.
Speaker 14 (19:53):
Fuck.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I think I'm getting out.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Of wall Oh where does it go?
Speaker 6 (19:58):
And do you have the answer to my questions?
Speaker 15 (20:03):
Baby?
Speaker 16 (20:03):
I don't know, but so not the can mean cositom
that's a creezy.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
And don't.
Speaker 17 (20:14):
You don't buy your things got te noise o, baby,
don't believe you can feel?
Speaker 9 (20:27):
Can feel fire love?
Speaker 6 (20:34):
We'll say all this, soull settle the snow.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
We'll settle the size.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Still in town, we'll settled.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Settle now.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Why you are still in town? Don't if nowhere start with.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Your le not going on? Baby, take me high and high.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
I don't even fen nowhere.
Speaker 18 (21:10):
Starting, don't know what's going on a baby, take me hard, high.
Speaker 14 (21:22):
And hi.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
High.
Speaker 19 (21:28):
We'll get it, fid so, no, baby, cut a job
so we can go skate on us.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
We're getting higher and higher and high and tire and high.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
Baby, who who.
Speaker 14 (21:55):
Who?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Night?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
That's good. It was okay, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I got so distracted by how amazing your voice is.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I was like, thank you. I've never like, I've never
done that song like that, and I kind of like
it like that. Yeah, I try to do some harmonies.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
But then I was like, oh crap, I forgot.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I know. The hermons are weird too, and the fucking
syncopation of all the lyrics to or it's it's a
lot of lyrics.
Speaker 13 (22:25):
It's a lot of fucking lyrics.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I forget them.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
But I see the Blashomedan them you see yeah, yeah, okay, cool,
But I actually kind of do this kind of a joke.
But also not at all.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I think this was like right when I wrote this
was like right when I was getting into her.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, I mean it doesn't sound like that at all.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I feel it. Yeah, it's pretty amazing, thank you. Yeah, yay,
see this is fun, right, Yeah, I like it. Yeah,
it's weird.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I feel like when I asked people to do this,
especially in the beginning before I had any episodes, and
even now, I feel like when I ask people to
do it this don't listen to it and understand completely
what it's about, and so it's always like they don't
know what they're walking into. And I'm like, it's easy.
It's supposed to be fun.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You know. It's not definitely not polished, but that's that's cool,
part of the fun. Yeah. Yeah, thank god. I'm not
polished at all, so it would.
Speaker 13 (23:21):
Be oh my god.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah. So you just did Coachella. I just did Coachella
for the first time. First time. It was your first
time going or anything, first time playing. I went one
time in twenty nineteen. I had a better time playing. Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Did you have a backstage pass in twenty nineteen?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I actually did, but I didn't use it, but I
got in because my friend it was actually the end
of my first ever tour that I did, and the
people that we were opening for this my friend name's Fenn,
who's in this band called Still Loosey. They their final
stop was Coachella. Oh cool, and so we just like
drove down with them after our tour and went to Coachella.
(24:01):
And so how was it this weekend?
Speaker 13 (24:04):
This weekend?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Well, it's two weekends, right, right, it's two weekends. Who thing,
It's quite a thing. I feel like there's a it's
the most pressure and the most work I've ever put
into playing a festival because people like I think maybe
because it's so close to La or something like music
like music lovers are there, but then also every industry
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person and their mother is there as well, like literally
everybody's mom is there too. So like it's it's just
like a lot of build up to like what is
just a show, which is just it's a huge thing.
It's a huge thing that yeah, just gets built up.
But so the first weekend I was quite nervous, probably
the most nervous I've been for a show in years,
but it I think it went well. And then the
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second weekend was so chill and amazing. And I played
with a nine piece band, and that is that bigger
than normal, Bigger than normal. Normally it's a four piece,
but I did nine piece, which added kind of to
the stress, but also added to the fun because all
of my it was all of my friends that like
kind of throughout the past ten years of my life,
who some of them knew each other, some of them didn't,
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And then like I got them all in a room
and then we all became like this one big, happy
family and so honestly, like the biggest It reminded me why.
It reminded me why I kind of really love playing
music with people in a live setting. And just like
like when I was in high school, I was playing
music and it's how I like made my friends. Like
all of my friends we were jamming together and that
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was like my social scene. And then I feel like,
once you get into working and traveling so much, the
community is really important because you're traveling all like my
band is, we're traveling all together.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But it becomes a bubble, it's organism.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
It becomes an organism. Yeah, and I forgot that I
can like look outside of the organism and like, you know,
have this sounds weird, but like have like human experiences again,
does this makes sense to do? It makes sense? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You can get super insular when you're working hard, yes,
and touring a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yeah, you know, and that's what you're in that zone
right now, super in that zone. You know.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't do that anymore. I mean, I to worry,
but I'm not like at the beginning making things like
riding a wave anymore.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
So what I remember that the waves being written.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It's hard. Yeah, you're writing the shit out of it.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Oh yeah, faking it's like it's psychotic, and it's honestly
like I was talking to my friend who was playing
percussion for me at Coachella, and he doesn't like really
leave town. All of his work is kind of like
in town work, and and I was just talking and
I was like, he's like, oh, yeah, you like must
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have people like texting you all the time, blah blah blah,
or like whatever, you're like busy and hanging around people
all the time. Because I think he is. And I
think that that's just like the general perception of the
job is that it's like you're you have like an
abundance of friends and fun and party and it's just like,
like I was talking to it was like actually, like no,
and like nobody really texts me and I don't really
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talk to people like ever. And then I was like, wait, am.
Speaker 13 (27:09):
I like super lonely?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
And then I started getting in this big trip about
oh my god, being lonely? Sorry, is this weird?
Speaker 14 (27:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
It's great, are you I think?
Speaker 13 (27:18):
Sometimes?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Yeah, it can be isolating being on the road. Yeah,
it is super isolation.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I mean you basically have to have your crew in
band is either your best friends and that makes it
a lot better, yeah, or or they're not and that's
really hard.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah. I think that when I'm on the road, I'm
not lonely and isolated because my band they are my
best friends. I also tour with like my boyfriend too,
So it's like, which actually is great for me.
Speaker 13 (27:43):
For some people it's bad.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
You know. It can be great when it's great, yeah,
and it can be not when it's not. Yeah. Yeah,
but it's great to feel like you have a little
bit of a family on the road totally.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So do you feel like you're more lonely when you're
not on the road.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, but that's because I've been on the road for
two years and it's fine winding down like literally right
now as we speak, it's like I leave tomorrow for
three more shows and then that's pretty much it the
rest of the year. So I'm just anticipating this, like
I need to like build a life again, and I
don't know how to do it because I have I'm
completely out of practice, so I've.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Been through all that. It's really hard. Yeah, And when
you finish a tour or take a break without something
really close on the horizon, it gets really you get depressed.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 13 (28:29):
I get really depressed, or I used to.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Now I have kids, so I'm distracted, heavily distracted, and
I well, that's good. That is my life basically when
I'm home, so I don't have that time to wonder
what I'm doing, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
But I remember that time when I was your age.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
In fact, I was twenty seven when I was my
most like lost in my life when I got off tour. Yeah,
and I took a pottery class, dude, I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Like two weeks ago, took a pottery class. PLA. It's
called bitter Root, which is maybe ten minute drive from
where we are right now, and I was like, this
is going to solve my Probably that's exactly what I'm not.
That's so funny. It actually helps. It's like, you know,
it's a tool. It's a tool.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Getting a hobby is a pretty rad thing that I
didn't learn until I was in my late twenties.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Dude, me neither. I'm like learning it now, but I
don't even know if i'm learning it. I know that
it needs to be learned. I need to actually put
into practice.
Speaker 13 (29:31):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
You're in the you're in the open zone where you
you know what you need to Yeah. Yeah, And it's
also weird because I just don't I don't want my
life to just be like my job and then like
my significant other and then like me alone. Like it
just it needs to be enriched. But it's so hard
to know what to do, so hard to know what
to do.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
It it'll become clear.
Speaker 13 (29:53):
Yeah, as you keep going.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
But I keep having pregnancy dreams, and I think it's
because I think it's because part of me is like, oh,
if I have like dogs or like a kid or
something like that, the next step is a dog, Yeah,
before the kid.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Well that's what I did. You do your own order.
But like, yeah, I got a dog at twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, oh my god. Okay, we're on like the same
little path here.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, and then I didn't have kids, so I was
like thirty four. But I think, yeah, something like that
helps ground you, and it gives you something, gives you
a little bit of a purpose when you're not on
stage or a recording basically. But yeah, but you got
to make sure you get a travel friendly dog do otherwise.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, you know, it's tough. I mean I have. I
got a dog when I was twenty three. His name
is Juno, and I named my first record after him.
He was with me the entire time I made that album,
and then I went on tour and my parents were like, Okay,
we'll take care of him while you're on tour because
he's like forty pounds and he's oh yeah, crazy, and
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he was like, there's it on tour.
Speaker 10 (30:55):
No.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I mean, that's like the gamble. When you get a
dog as a puppy. It's like you have no idea
what they're personality it's going to be. It's true, and
he was definitely not a tour dog. So I was like, okay,
can you guys take care of him? And then they've
just been taking care of him. And they sat me
down for dinner, maybe six months ago, and they're like,
he is not your dog anymore. Yeah, you're never getting it.
You're never getting him back. We love him, he is ours.
Speaker 13 (31:18):
And I was like, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
You, I mean, what are you going to do? You've
got to work. I have to work, and like, and
you're lucky that he has a stable place and you
can go exactly exactly.
Speaker 13 (31:28):
Yeah, no, it's great. But now I'm like, fuck, I
had another dog.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Oh no, no, you gotta wait.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, maybe you have to wait. Maybe wait, I got
a dog, my dog, Ralph. He's still around and he's
fifteen years old. Oh my god, is he little? Wait?
I was twenty seven when I got him. That means
he's wait, maybe my math is off.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Okay, maybe I wasn't twenty seven when I got him,
because he's fifteen now. Anyway, but he's he was supposed
to be little, yeah, to take like on the plane,
and he grew and grew.
Speaker 13 (32:00):
He's very tall.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
He's he's more like a medium sized dog. But when
he was young, I I took him on the plane.
You know, you put him in a bag, under the
seat in front of you, which is really it's it's
actually fine for a lot of small dogs, they're comfortable
in there. But he wasn't because he's tall, and I mean,
he wasn't like crammed in the bag. Don't Yeah, I
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don't want any angry letters there. He was. He fit
in the bag.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It wasn't like bad, but he got severe anxiety. And
turns out he got severe anxiety on the plane and
on a tour bus and a car is the vibration.
Speaker 13 (32:39):
He hates it.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
So yeah, that's I did take him on the butt
on a few bus tours for a long time.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
He came on tour a lot.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
And after the first three days on the bus he
totally chilled and he was fine. Oh that's cool. But yeah,
he was not the like travel ready passport and and
but he's the best. Oh that's good. He's a sweetie.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
But yeah, for a long time we had have like
I had to have roommates. I had roommates for a
while who would just live with me so that I
could tour and they would just stay with Ralph for
a couple of years. Some friends just friends, Oh yeah, yeah,
like close friends.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Oh that's good. Okay, I live alone right now.
Speaker 13 (33:16):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's wild. Does it feel like it?
It feels at times like it's like the best thing
ever because I need to have alone time sometimes because
I am like surrounded by people a lot. But sometimes
it also it's like, I it'd be nice if there
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was like a warm body, just like even if it's
like three rooms away. Oh, like the roommates situation. Yea, yeah,
like I know what you mean. I think I think
I've lived alone only short periods. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, it's a trip to be around in Brazilian people
and then come home and be like who am I?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's like the weirdest thing to navigate ever.
Do you have your how long have you been in
the home here in now to two years? So basically
while you've been on tour a lot. Yeah, So do
you have it set up in homie or are you
not at that phase in your life yet? I think
that comes in your like mid thirties maybe. Well, yeah,
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it's yeah, it's weird. I'm actually thinking about like buying
a house right now. It just feels like a thing
to do. I don't I don't know, like that's what
you're supposed to do. That's what I'm supposed to do.
And I kind of like this Coachella weekend actually inspired
me because we rented this house so that we could
all stay there and there's a pool and I was like, wait,
the pool, like the watering hole, like that's where people gather.
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And I was like, what if I had the pool
where we all gathered. You want to be the hostess
with the mostest I do, And so I'm like, I
need a pool, that's right, But we'll see, we'll see
what happens. And I want to be chill, and I
think that the I think I'm not chill, and I
think the pool will chill me out. Potentially. Maybe a
hot tub would chill you out. Maybe a hot tub.
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That sounds actually fucking great. Yeah I'm into that. Yeah, yeah,
go back and forth. Yeah that sounds like a good
like thing. Yeah, it's a good thing. Yeah that's exciting.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah. And you can you can like decorate it with
all your pottery exactly. Yeah. The thing about this pottery place, though,
is I was I made a bowl. Yeah. I was like, great,
it's hard to do the wheel, It's so hard.
Speaker 12 (35:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (35:28):
Well, so hard.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
But I made a bowl.
Speaker 13 (35:29):
It looks like a bowl, and.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Then they're like, you're getting it back in six months.
Speaker 14 (35:33):
I know.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
It's so unsatisfying, right, Yeah, I need the bowl like
next week, dude. Yeah, but it takes forever to finish
it and bring it home. Yeah, what is up for that?
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Well, because you know they're on their own schedule with
whatever firing kiln they have, and yeah, you get a
pay once you start. If you can go regularly, it
gets more clear.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
But yeah, I do go regularly. Do you still do?
Not right now? But I did.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I haven't done it since like the pandemic basically. But
I I'm not great at the wheel, but I make
these weird masks because I grew up going to pottery
and making these weird masks.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
And so I just sort of do what I know
from childhood, and so I do I do that. I
do like the hand stuff. I like the hand stuff
better I took. I was like huge art kid in
like middle school and high school, and I was always
in ceramics making oh cool making. I guess I made
a couple of masks, but I would make like sculptures
of shoes and like, oh, weird shit. Yeah, I would
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make weird so too. Yeah. So it's familiar. It's familiar.
Speaker 13 (36:36):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah for sure. When I was a kid, I
took the same class every year and I would make
this thing called slug Land. It's stupid. It's just a
slab with like a slug family on it.
Speaker 13 (36:50):
Oh that's cute, it's really weird. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Well, I mean I think it's cool. It's cool.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
But like I think we had slugs on our porch
in Texas and they were always there and it was
so gross.
Speaker 13 (37:00):
And I don't know that's slugs, not snails.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Slugs. Actual slugs, like banana slugs are like big, yeah, random,
probably like that, like yellow slugs.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
No, they were gray, they were gray. They weren't very pretty.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
But wow, that's cool. Slug Land anyway, it's like polly
Land but slugs.
Speaker 16 (37:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
But I kept doing like different ones, like you don't
need more than one.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Plate.
Speaker 13 (37:25):
No, it was functionless.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
There's no heart.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
That's art.
Speaker 13 (37:30):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
It was hard. It was like my nightmares come to life.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
Oh my god, got this fan?
Speaker 9 (37:54):
Oh not the good card.
Speaker 14 (38:00):
This Parma stoic makes my scape cold. Look at the slave,
so so patient, so easy.
Speaker 8 (38:13):
It's I can from it. I will show it to
a feel on and baby from it.
Speaker 11 (38:25):
I will show it to the child. May sakee.
Speaker 18 (38:39):
Game Holway staggle here make easy.
Speaker 7 (38:46):
It's it's a mod and a boos. Even mother food
showed my mom for script.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Sh you know.
Speaker 9 (39:07):
Oh, I'm coming over the walls. I made getting over
that pass in my head.
Speaker 8 (39:15):
So I put my.
Speaker 20 (39:18):
Bread and toaster and I'm making uppen in an easy baby.
But we're not out man, feel wanted baby. I can't
prove it.
Speaker 9 (39:34):
I will show to it, feeled baby, I can't prove it.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
I will show it to you.
Speaker 9 (39:45):
Godby take the heavy.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Game in Alastad.
Speaker 18 (40:01):
You'll make easies and chew. It's a moment and the
blues even mother a blues, your mom?
Speaker 8 (40:14):
What was somebody?
Speaker 21 (40:22):
The fire and the flame statues work one the same,
Chee and I really like the fire in the flame.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
That is.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Because work one and the same Histoe and I really
like it. We did it. That's great.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
That's a good one. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
You like that one?
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Okay, I do this one makes me nervous for some reason. Well,
first of all, it's not out so it's just scary
when you're leading up to that.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Oh, like you don't know how people will respond.
Speaker 13 (41:17):
It just feels vulnerable. And I also wrote it for
this show.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Oh so it's something which is something I've never done.
What show. It's called I'm a Virgo and it's it's
directed by this guy, Boots Riley. Do you know who
that He did that movie Sorry to Bother You, which
is like crazy. He's like a crazy psychedelic madman. So
I think it's going to be this really crazy psychedelic show.
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But yeah, I wrote it.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
For the show.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
And it's also just very different from my other stuff,
which might be good. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Oh it's different.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
I know what you mean when something's very different from
everything else.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
It's it's late.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Yeah, it is a little more vulnerable. It feels vulnerable. Yeah,
it's fine saying it is fun.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Well you sound great, thank you.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
That's cool. Sound great too. I like the re harms. Yeah,
I didn't mean to. I think I was here, but
that's cool.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
I heard the minor four in one part and I
liked it a lot. Yeah, but yeah, good, I'm glad
you didn't mind that it wasn't exact.
Speaker 13 (42:15):
I don't give I don't give a shit, dude.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
This is this is very fun for me. Thank you
for like learning my songs. Oh, I'm honestly such an honor,
Like it's crazy, So thank you.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
It's fun for me, and you know it keeps my
brain inspired. Yeah, active, but like actually inspired, like learning
all of these songs by different people. Everybody has a
different thing they go towards, and you're always just.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Picking stuff up and learning. Do you like see the
patterns and people's chord progressions some stuff?
Speaker 13 (42:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, I haven't completely found yours, but I think I
tend to gravitate towards specific keys, and I think I
fluctuate a lot.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Recently in my writing, I've been loving a major six. Yeah,
that's been very fun for me. Those are great major.
I don't know do you mostly Do you only write
a guitar? Do you play piano or keys or anything?
You did mostly write on guitar, but a lot of
the times. My one of my co writers that I
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write with, like I've written most of my catalog with him.
His name's Jared and he is an incredible guitar player
name Jared Solomon, and we grew up together. We were
like in bands together when we were fifteen and sixteen,
so he's known yeh, known each other for a long
time and have been making music together for a long time,
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and I just a lot of the time he is
just a genius. So he's just like making these crazy
progressions that I don't even really know what's going on,
but I will staying on top of them. But when
I write alone, I tend to love what do I like?
I love a one for yeah, or like a four
or five I like. I love two chord songs I
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do too. I love them well like disco Man's Disco Man.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, yeah, I write it's just a jam, and then
you can put you can put different melodies over it
and change it and have a chorus and you can.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, it's just fun. It's like easy and breezy and
just like awesome. And sometimes, like if I'm writing alone,
it's just too complicated for me to have too many
progressions going on because I'm not a great I like,
can definitely make my way around a guitar, but I'm
not like a great player, so it's just easier to
keep it simple. Two chord bangers love them.
Speaker 13 (44:34):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
And then you have fun and you can dance while
you're playing. You can dance, you can kind of, yeah,
I know what you mean. When there's too much going on,
it gets a little it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
I mean it's it's it's crazy. But when other people
are doing the crazy, then I can like like do
my crazy, yeah a little more. Do you ever play
guitar in your shows?
Speaker 5 (44:54):
Not?
Speaker 4 (44:55):
I really don't. I hate playing on stage.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Why because you can't dance, I can't free Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Yeah. I love moving and I love holding the mic.
And I think if I were to ever play something,
I would want to play bass or something because that
just feels more.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Like like you can wobble around like it's weady.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
On the opposite, if I don't have a guitar or
a piano on stage, I don't know how to move.
It's like I don't know how to move.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Really.
Speaker 13 (45:19):
Yeah, it's like you normally play.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I play, I don't really play piano, and then some
guitar on stage, some guitar. Yeah, I'm not a great
guitar player, but I I like to switch it up.
I like getting up from the piano because I like
to face the audience and I love to play the guitar.
But yeah, the piano is so awesome, but it's so
limiting on stage. It really separates you from everybody. It
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separates you from the band. Do you like with your
stage plot? Is it like you and the center with
the piano.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
It's a constant struggle because I have to see everybody.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
I like to be close. I don't like being too
far away.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I don't like laying on monitors, you know, so I
like to be close enough. I mean, we have monitors obviously.
Speaker 13 (46:05):
Do you do any monitors or no?
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Okay, I used to when I was, you know, starting
out we were playing bigger venues though.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
So yeah, but I hate them. Yeah, I mean, you know,
I feel like you probably need them with the kind
of places you play, especially Coachella, you know, like I.
Speaker 13 (46:24):
Mean, yeah, you can't get around it.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Yeah. So and a lot of the rooms I've been playing,
like theaters are just so verby.
Speaker 13 (46:32):
They are if they can trip you up, it's yeah,
it's just trippy.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
So you kind of need it. But I'm bad, and
I do One year in one ear out Is that bad?
It's bad.
Speaker 13 (46:42):
It's bad for your hearing, bad for your hearing.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yeah, this year is this is the one I take
out and there's a noticeable difference. So which one is
it bad? For the one you don't use it in?
Speaker 13 (46:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:54):
See, I feel like when I used to use them,
it was the ear I had in that would ring.
After that fact, maybe I just I think my stage
volume has never been that loud. Yeah, so you probably
have a much louder.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Mine's a loudishing thing because we're going just everybody's going crazy. Yeah,
and it's just it's just loud, and I like it
to be loud so that I can like feel the
energy of it, because if it's too quiet, then I'm like,
it's it's just so dissociative for something. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know. You mean, yeah, it's such a it's everybody
does things different. Yeah, you know, it's crazy so different.
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It's awesome. Though. The only other person that I know
that doesn't use in your monitors is Madison Cunningham. Do
you know her? I know who she is? I think, yeah,
And she like just has her four piece and they're
all just like really close together and yeah, they hate
in ears and they just rock the wedge. Yeah, it's
my favorite way to do it.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
The piano just kind of throws a wrench into it. Yeah,
do you use the grand piano or I do I
for a long time, in the middle of the last
twenty years, I used to upright because I was playing
more guitar.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
But that's when I had a bigger band and I
didn't play as much piano. And now I have a
smaller band and I'm like really digging into the piano.
And I might try it upright again, but I think
I'll miss the low end, you know, but whatever, blah blah.
Speaker 13 (48:16):
This is some nerd talk?
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Is this nerd talk?
Speaker 6 (48:19):
Not to me?
Speaker 4 (48:20):
But not to me?
Speaker 1 (48:20):
I wonder if people listening are I think they're bored.
Speaker 13 (48:23):
I don't know, Are you guys bored?
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Yeah, you guys, this is like interesting. This is what
I'm interested in. I know, well, because you're a musician.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I don't know if everybody is interested in this stuff,
but I think it's interesting everybody, everybody.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
I just like to hear what people do.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
It's like I need to learn everybody slices their ham differently. Wait,
that's not a thing, turkey turkey. Maybe no, there's like
a way to slice it.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
Yeah, I feel like there's definitely a way to slice
Ham too. I know people like Cube Ham and do
shit like that. What about like the Deviled Ham? What
is that?
Speaker 14 (48:57):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (48:57):
Just like minced Ham, Deviled old Hand? I've never heard
of that.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
That'd be a good band name, devil Ham.
Speaker 13 (49:04):
That's fire.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
You're recording an album. I'm recording an album.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Do you have any idea when it's going to be done?
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Probably soonish? Yeah, I want it to be done soonish
because I'm kind of over it. I've pretty much been
writing it for a year and a half. Now what
you said, you are?
Speaker 1 (49:21):
You writing a lot and then you whittle it down
very from a huge swath of songs.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
Yeah, there's probably like fifty songs or something.
Speaker 13 (49:30):
That is crazy.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Yeah, that sounds intense. I've never done it like that.
It's super intense. Have you really never? What's your What
do you do? I normally have a group of songs
and get excited and start doing it, and I usually
have very few on the floor after like maybe two
or three if I'm lucky, very few on the floor
Like that don't make the record.
Speaker 13 (49:53):
Oh really, okay, that's crazy? Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
My My process is super has been super I think
it's because I work with different people. Like I haven't
yet done a project that's like solely one producer or
a project where it's like I'm taking songs to a producer.
It's more like I go in, we have a session,
and we like make the song in the room with
(50:17):
different people. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, but that's sort of a typical way to do
it in the world of pop music. And yeah, that
kind of pop well more like popular music, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
I think so. I mean that's what That's definitely what
a lot of people in LA do. It's a very
la yeah type thing. But it's been interesting because I
have these songs. I have like fifty of them or
something like that. I like them all. There's ones that
I definitely like more. But since I've gotten home from
tour and I get I get in these like little
depression things. But it's kind of awesome because I will
(50:52):
sit in my house and I've just been writing songs
alone on the guitar, which I haven't done in years.
Oh yeah, like because you've been too busy, too busy
to do it, and I'm just like, I feel like
that needs to be the next thing, you know, which
I think is maybe more of a it's a more
focused project, more focused project.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah, I mean writing that way is so cool because
you're going it's like going fishing and you're like catching
all this cool stuff. But being in a zone and
catching a vibe and then like threading it through everything
is a different way.
Speaker 13 (51:28):
It's a totally different way that I think I really
want to do.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
Yeah you will. Yeah, I think there's just so many
things I want to do, and I feel like I'm
just like, yeah, I'm like, can I focus for once
in my life? Don't really get to talk to people
like you a lot who have like done what I'm
doing and are have done it for a way longer
time and have kind of just been through the ringers.
(51:53):
So thank you for talking to me. I'm happy to
talk to you. It makes me feel us insane. Call
me anytime, except I mean, you're on a much different ride.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
You know, we're we're still on different rides, so I
don't different very different worlds and like different stage setup,
you know, everything.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
But still, yeah, there's a common there's a common thing.
If you ever need.
Speaker 13 (52:18):
Anything, Okay, should we just try this?
Speaker 4 (52:24):
I think I might be really bad at singing the
song when I was when I threw this out as
an option. I did not realize that I was gonna
have to sing it. I think I was like, oh,
this is a great one, do try. It was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
I was going to sing it for you.
Speaker 6 (52:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
Well, we try it. It's high because her voice is
very high. Yeah, it's so high. Okay, I know it now.
I was like, what the fuck do I know on this? Okay?
Speaker 13 (52:53):
Ready, yeah, okay?
Speaker 15 (52:57):
On the high were digging gooday afternoon, full up the highway.
We're heading for a Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 7 (53:13):
Plenty of sunshine letting the way for of the things do,
taking our own sleep time, starting out easy and slow.
Well on the highway, we're taking Sunday afternoon. Plenty of
(53:38):
people stretching the lakes out, shifting and keep.
Speaker 22 (53:44):
Traveling roads with curious faces standing back at you, taking
our own sweet time, moving up, easy and slow.
Speaker 15 (54:00):
We're on the highway. We're taking Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 6 (54:09):
Have you been.
Speaker 9 (54:12):
Flowerding with your U tree.
Speaker 11 (54:17):
Takes you've never seen?
Speaker 7 (54:25):
Do you want to Gus get a car kick kicking
kick Gigy?
Speaker 9 (54:34):
Want to Gus get.
Speaker 15 (54:36):
A car kick kicking kicky Gigy?
Speaker 7 (54:40):
Thinking about people tasting the sweetness, living to the food,
thinking about children, laughing and saying it, taking us to school,
taking our sweet time.
Speaker 15 (55:00):
Going up, busy and slow, well on the highway.
Speaker 23 (55:06):
We're digging Sunday afternoon, go and fall, and I'm old.
Speaker 16 (55:22):
And and well, waiting to our fans. M m hm,
smileing back guys.
Speaker 20 (55:41):
Skinky ki kick kick kick, thinking bouteople.
Speaker 7 (55:47):
This in the sweetness, liveing to the phone, think about children,
and laughing and singing, and taking us to school, taking
our time, growing up easy.
Speaker 14 (56:06):
And so.
Speaker 6 (56:09):
We're on the highlay.
Speaker 23 (56:11):
We're digging Sunday afternoon, waving.
Speaker 22 (56:19):
To spiling backa.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
K. We're on the highway.
Speaker 23 (56:38):
We're digging Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 10 (56:44):
There it is.
Speaker 5 (56:45):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
I loved it. It sounds good. It was fun. I
tried to dou w and be the double when I could.
Speaker 13 (56:51):
Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 4 (56:52):
I like singing and using.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
I feel like I've been sow into harmonies my whole
life that I forget that.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Unison's fun. Unison's fucking be really fun.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Do you have other singers in your band or is
your whole band sing.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
With the nine piece that we just did? I have
two singers singing with me, so doing harmonies, but normally
it's just I have the harmonies in the track.
Speaker 17 (57:15):
Ah you do.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
But I'm a huge harmony person. Yeah, really into them.
They're great. But I love I love the Unison who
sings in Unison there's I was just listening.
Speaker 13 (57:25):
I don't know what it was.
Speaker 4 (57:26):
I was just listening to some stuff that was in
Unison and I was like, damn, Like it is such
a flex to be able.
Speaker 13 (57:31):
To to really really do it so well.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
Yeah, do you know Gillian Welsh and d Rallings They
have this one song they do that is in Unison
and they play so quiet, so it's even harder, you know,
And I mean their voices are just so melded together.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Anyway, but it's really beautiful. I can't what's called right now,
but it's my favorite.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
Well, this was so fun, so fun. Thank you, thank
you for doing it. Yeah, we're friends, No, we're friends.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yay, we didn't get it. Yeah. Wow.
I love her voice.
Speaker 13 (58:07):
She's grabbed.
Speaker 4 (58:08):
So glad we did that Blossom Deery song.
Speaker 3 (58:11):
So cool to hear this like stripped down version of
what she does.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
Yeah, because her her albums are very pop kind of
production wise, you to like not have that much going
on but still be so powerful.
Speaker 4 (58:23):
It's just like, yeah, you'll credit to her voice.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
She's great.
Speaker 4 (58:26):
I love her. Let's hang out on, Remy, Let's hang
out more.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
If you want to know what songs we played in
this episode, we did Discoman from Remy's EP I'm Allergic
to Dogs. We did WU from the same EP, the
song Prescription, which is Remy's latest single released earlier this
year twenty twenty three. And we did Sunday Afternoon, the
Blossom Dary song from the Blossom Dairy Sings nineteen seventy
three album. This episode was recorded at night Bird Recording Studios.
(58:52):
Recorded by Colton Lakey, assisted by Louis Sanchez Navarro, mixed
by Jamie Landry, edited by Sarah Ode. Additional editing and
mixing by Matthew Fasquez. Additional engineering by Matt Marinelli. Artwork
by Eliza Frye. Photography by Shervin Linez. Produced by Norah
Jones and Sarah Oda. That's me and you. Hey, hey girl, Hey.
Speaker 4 (59:15):
Oh hey, I'm like, why didn't she responding? Thanks for
listening
Hey, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with
Remy Wolf.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm just playing long Weuzy, I'm just playing lone Weezy.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hi, I'm Norah Jones. Welcome to the show with me,
as always is Sarah Oda. Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hi, our guest today is incredibly talented and very sweet
singer songwriter Remy Wolf.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
We had so much fun.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, she's young, but she's covered a lot of basses.
She made her solo debut in twenty nineteen with her
EP called You're a Dog exclamation point.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I can hear her saying that today.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Has followed that up with the releases called I'm Allergic
to Dogs and we Love Dogs.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We do talk about dogs in this episode.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
And in twenty twenty one, she put out her first
studio album titled Juno. And this year she's played and
is scheduled to play some huge festivals from Coachella to
Governor's Ball to Bonnerou to the Newport Folk Festival and more.
She's just everywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
She's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
She's doing really great.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
She's an incredible singer.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, being in the room with her and hearing the
power from her voice was really special. And we had
a lot of fun. She is really interesting and her
songs are so great. And I heard about her from
a friend, so I didn't know her music very long,
and it was really fun that we got to connect.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Her voice in her songwriting is like truly her own thing,
and she can tell you can hear lots of different
influences sort of in there, which she talks about in
the episode.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, we had a blast, So please enjoy our hang
with Remy wolf.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
M dude likes joys in the midst You know, he
likes his movies from the Turn to Know and he knows.
(02:04):
He's always ready to gold just station gases on the
sweet wheel and he get it yecki get it.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Ha you got drunk? God don't be good.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
Oh so there is a disco and he's got a
lot of fiscal dance and the automic kiss smile.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
If you me me at the disco.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
Disco said, he's a discoment and he's got a lot
of fiscal lands and the atomic kiss my hand.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
If me at disco.
Speaker 8 (02:41):
This g he's ever drum time.
Speaker 9 (02:44):
He's all right.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
He's always just black tie with white guys.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Oh yeah, and he's looking in the sunshine.
Speaker 9 (02:55):
The dead lines oh.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
He and wusit all his moneybody never been a waste
of time.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
Said, that is a distor man, and he's got a
lot of fiscal plans.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
And you told I mean to kiss.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
My at the disco discus say that he is a
disco man and he's got a lot.
Speaker 10 (03:20):
Of fiscal plans, and to me to kiss my man
at the discal disc man.
Speaker 9 (03:29):
Yeah he get it. Yeah, yeah, he get it. We
got churn, got done, forgeted.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
So that is a disco.
Speaker 7 (03:42):
He's got a lot of fiscal bus and told me
to kiss me and.
Speaker 8 (03:48):
At the discal disco.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
Sa, that is a discover man and it's got a
lot of fiscal plans.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
And the tatomy to.
Speaker 10 (03:57):
Kiss my man, I had pisto disco. Up we are fine,
but we are fine. But up we are fine. Bye,
up we are fine, but up we are fine.
Speaker 9 (04:17):
Bute up we are fine. Bute up we are fine.
We are fine. Fine.
Speaker 11 (04:27):
Yah, yeah that fine.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
So that is a tisco and it's got a lot
of full school fans. I told him we could kiss
my hands, fem me, its disco disco.
Speaker 12 (04:50):
Yeah that was good, that was great, That's awesome. First pancake, Yeah,
first pancake, first pancake. That's all fun, squarely pancake. This
is this is a fun moment.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, you're doing something really cool.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I was playing the wrong chord, is what it was.
Speaker 8 (05:11):
But that was cool.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I don't know what I was doing.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I couldn't help. You were playing C sharp minor or?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Well, I was playing some major ship. I switched to
major real quick, and then I went back to the minor. Guys,
I was just hitting the bottom the bottom string. Yeah,
it's cool. It did it work? Yeah, okay, cool. I
love your voice, thank you. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's beautiful and like powerful and.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Earthy and all these things.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Sorry, that got it.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
No, that's good. I love that. Yeah, that's thank you. Yeah,
you're really powerful. Thank you. I feel like our voices
are quite different. We sing quite differently. Yeah we do, yeah,
which is awesome. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's great. Yeah. I
love your voice. By the way, I grew up on
your voice, did you. Yes? Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah that's so funny for me because I still feel
like i'm twenty, but I know i'm not.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, but that's awesome. Yeah, it's crazy. I've known your
songs for a long time studied them in school. That's crazy.
Did you study music in school? I did?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, where in the Bay Area.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well, yeah, when I was in high school, I studied
in the Bay because I grew up in the Bay.
I didn't go to like a music high school or
anything like that, but I was in kind of just
after school music programs and bands and stuff like that.
So I was learning a bunch of music, like pretty
much just repertoire time.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Any genre specific. Were you sort of in a certain genre?
Were you kind of all over the place? I was
super all over the place.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
That's great. Yeah, very all over the place, like Red Hot,
Chili Pepper, Stevie Wonder, a lot of the Beatles your
songs you not to include me, no, but that's it's true.
Speaker 13 (07:08):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
And then like like uptown Funk awesome, and like whatever
the pop radio was hitting at the time, so like
Maroon five and Wow. And then also like jazz stuff,
kind of like neo jazz shit, like snarky puppy stuff. Yeah,
and Hyat's coyote stuff and just a lot of different stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I feel like your neo jazz soul is It's funny
you say that, and I think Oh yeah, I grew
up on that too, but it's a different era, so
you're thinking snarky puppy. Those guys are my age, right,
they're from Dallas. And I was thinking, you know this
stuff before that, but like Jamiroqua, no, I was thinking
more like like neo soul. I guess, okay, like, yeah,
(07:53):
it's funny. Yeah, I don't even know it's funny how
I feel like it's like just this big ball and
you put everything in it and you shake it up
and then you just roll the dice and you're a
mix of all those crazy things that have been in
your head and out of your head.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I don't know why it's like now within the music
culture of you know, like Spotify and just I mean,
I guess just everything's like branded as like a genreists artist. Yeah,
And I don't know, like, I don't know why that
is happening now, but or why it's being labeled as
that now. And I feel like everything has kind of
(08:29):
always been that because it's constantly evolving. Yeah, but maybe
it's easier for us to put things in categories when
we're like looking back on it, because you're like, oh, well,
that stuff makes sense with that, so that's like hair metal.
Speaker 13 (08:42):
But at the time you're like, is this hair metal?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, I think people like to put things in boxes,
especially like record companies and marketing.
Speaker 13 (08:50):
They like to tie things up in a bow and
tell you what you like.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And yeah, that's just the way it used to be,
domb and I feel like with the way things are
now and spotif or any other streaming but mostly Spotify,
I mean, yeah, it's just changed everything. The way it's
done is just.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Turned upside down on its head kind of. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And I've always felt kind of like I hated being
told what I was because I always felt very out
of whatever it was they were telling me.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I was, What did they tell you you were?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I think for a lot some people would say I
was a jazz artist, and I came from that stuff
and I learned it, but I didn't feel like the
records I was making were jazz quote ungul So I
just I just think I just think it's always been
weird to label things.
Speaker 13 (09:34):
So yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, yeah, I don't even know how I started talking
about that about that, oh right, because we all listened
to all this shit and then it's just it is
the big puzzle in our brain that is subconscious that's
just coming out.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I wonder what it's going to be like in twenty
years when the kids of today listen to stuff more
randomly than I mean, you listen to stuff kind of
randomly though, but I feel like it's times one hundred.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
With the oh yeah, all over the place ness with
play with like playlisting and being able. Yeah, it's it's
weird because I feel like kids are they have the opportunity,
with algorithms and stuff now to like really find really
good music without even trying.
Speaker 13 (10:17):
Yeah, like you don't have to do shit.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Like all you have to do is be like, Okay,
here's this, I don't know this, like pointers sister's song,
and I'm going to put it on radio and then
I'm gonna hear all of these amazing songs from the seventies. Yeah,
it's sick, it is. And I use it too. I
use it too, and it's amazing. But I don't put
on records anymore. I know, and I should, I know,
(10:42):
and I love doing that. It's just I get lazy,
and yeah, it's all there. It's very rare that I do. Yeah,
it's extremely rare. I mean, I definitely don't put on vinyl, but.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's such a special thing, but a lot of people do.
A lot of people are into music. Yeah, people are
into music, but a lot of people are into vinyl now.
Speaker 13 (10:59):
So it's good. Yeah, it is good.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Do you sell your stuff on vinyl? I do? Yeah, yeah,
but I don't even have my own vinyl, like I
don't have You don't have a record player?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
No I do.
Speaker 13 (11:08):
You don't have your my vinyl record?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, on vinyl?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I have.
Speaker 13 (11:11):
I have a bunch of different records on vinyl, but
I never listened to them.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, well then you probably wouldn't listen to yours. Oh man,
it's so fun to meet you.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah. So I discovered you through Leon Michaels. Yes, yeah,
our good friend, Yeah, mutual good friend.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, who's incredible producer and musician. And yeah, I'm excited
you did some stuff with them. I don't know if
we're allowed to say.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
That, but yeah, I think we are. Okay, I've worked
with him.
Speaker 13 (11:39):
Yeah, the songs aren't out yet.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But they're not out yet.
Speaker 13 (11:41):
They're in my phone.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
He's well cool, I want to hear later. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
His whole thing is is cool. We were talking about
Homer and Nick and the best. Yeah, Homer Styiny Wised
and Nick Ma Sean and Diamond Mind recording.
Speaker 13 (11:57):
It's a cool crew.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And I feel like Le has turned me onto so
much music, yeah, because he's got great taste and he's
always like playing stuff. And he turned me onto this
Blossom Deary song and it was like, oh, man, and
I love Blossom Deary.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, but I had never heard that album. Yeah, the one,
the white one, the fifty year anniversary one. I forget
what it's called. Yeah, what is it called? Blossom Deary sings?
Speaker 14 (12:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, but it's like a seventies album or something.
Speaker 13 (12:24):
It's from the seventies.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So I always listen to her stuff from the sixties
and I never knew this album and it's incredible, and
he totally turned me onto it. And then when we're
talking on the phone about maybe we do a cover,
and he said, do you like Blossom Deary? And I
said yeah, And he said, do you know this song
Sunday Afternoon? And I said, did you get that from Leon?
Or did Leon get that from you? And it sounds
(12:46):
like Leon heard it from you.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I think Leon might have heard it from me. That's awesome,
I honestly think so. And then yeah, yeah, and then
he has gone on to show you, I guess, and
then also show another mutual friend, Clara, because I was
talking to Clara also about it, and we all have
this like random Leon blossom deary, like special studio moments.
(13:09):
Six degrees of Leon, six degrees of Blossom.
Speaker 13 (13:14):
Yeah, that's so strange.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It's great, But I feel like she is, like she's
weirdly this because I have a lot of friends my
age like female songwriters, and we all secretly love her secretly.
Why is it a secret. I think it's a secret
because not a lot of people know who she is,
and I feel like she is. Especially this album for me,
(13:38):
was like honestly mind blowing to me, like just the
fact that her songwriting was so witty and like charming,
and her voice is just so pure and she's like
shredding piano because all of her other records are like
kind of classic, like jazz standards, traditional more traditional jazz sounds,
(13:58):
and then these are like jazz songs, but they're pop songs,
but they're like smart and like sung by this tiny
little woman I know, and it's cool.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
She got like double vocals and there's a worry and
it's ates, but then there's overdubs and there's harmonies, and.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, it's just interesting.
Speaker 13 (14:16):
It's funky.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
It's funky.
Speaker 13 (14:18):
It's very unique, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The way she sings is so specifically different from anyone else.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, and all of her lyrics too, I think I
really resonate with They're very like there's like a almost
an evil longing to them, like over these men that
she like likes.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
She just paints of such a clear picture of her
like emotional state, and it's just beautiful and I relate
to it so much. That's cool. Yeah, I just love it.
But I feel like we keep it secret because it's
so like I don't want to say, it's like a
gatekeepy thing, but it like, for me, it just means
so much that I don't like showing people that much
unless I know that they're gonna like appreciate it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well, it's I was like wild wildfire though.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah. Yeah, you know, I feel bad because I've lived
in New York for twenty four years now, in the city,
and yeah, and I moved there when I was twenty
and she was playing every week, once a week at
this place called danny Skylight Room Danny's Skylight Room. I
(15:22):
think I never saw her because when you were living there, yeah,
I mean I was, and I loved her then, but
I just you know, you get busy and then when
somebody does a weekly gig, you kind of forget. I'll
go next week, I'll go next month. Yeah, oh I'm
busy this week.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I can't believe. I'm like kicked myself for that.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
She died, Yeah, and she was old then, so I
should have just gone yeah and kept going.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
That's crazy.
Speaker 13 (15:47):
She was doing weekly I know, but I think that's.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Also pretty badass, like so bad as I want to
do that when i'm yeah, I just want to play
once a week. That's enough.
Speaker 13 (15:57):
That's so enough.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Keep you young, know, that's how he's stay young. You
never have to leave the city. I guess that's why
people do the Vegas Many people come to them. Yeah,
just like live there, live in the MGM, never leave.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Maybe I'll do that in New York. I don't know, Yeah,
maybe in New York. I did nothing against Vegas, but.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I don't actually like Vegas. I was just in Vegas
last week, and it was the most fun I've had
in Vegas, really, but I was only there one day
and I just decided to gamble. Yeah it's fun when
you do that. Yeah, you just have to decide to gamble.
I was like, I'm gonna go max. I'm gonna lose
a max of two hundred dollars. That's why did you
go over? No, did you win anything? I overall lost
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one hundred and forty dollars. That's great.
Speaker 13 (16:45):
But I was up at some time at some point.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So you wrote that you had a fun ride. I
was riding and then we were Honestly, the best time
was when it was me and my band and some
of my crew and we we all had just played
roulette like hours of electronic and we all were down.
So we're all like, okay, like as a last last
for off the night, we're gonna go to a slot
machine and just like put everything in the slot machine,
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or put like twenty bucks in the slot machine. So
we went over to the Crazy Rich Asians slot machine,
which is a thing. It's a thing that they've created, okay,
I guess based off the movie. And we put twenty
bucks in that thing and five minutes later we had
three hundred and seventy five dollars. Wow, that was the most.
Like we were all just watching the numbers go up.
There's a video of us, just like all nine of
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us watching the screen and the screen was one where
it kind of curves around you like a like a
convex mirror or whatever. Wow, and it was it. So
you're just like all encompass anyway. Yeah, gambling is crazy.
Vegas is crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Presidencies if you if you lean in the Vegas and
you you ride the ride, it's I've had fun nights
in Vegas. Yeah, oh, I've had really fun nights. It's
fun and the crowd is fun. We played a show
and the crowd was awesome. Oh they're always there at
a party. So yeah, there's no yeah, okay, I take
it back. I would do I don't know. I don't
know if i'm their company to you. But you will
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play another song?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Sure? What should we do? You want to write a song?
You want to play a song?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Let's he could do woo woo woo. Yeah, let's do woo.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Okay, I practiced this one. Okay, I mean to practice
them all, but I have this one's crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Kind of Yeah, I'm gonna try to hold it down. Okay,
over here, I'm gonna I'll sing.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Mm love, what not go? And do you wake up with?
Speaker 12 (18:50):
So?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Don shove.
Speaker 14 (18:55):
Love?
Speaker 7 (18:57):
And it's not the so it's the said the questions,
not a bowl.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
It's so fine.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
Don't know the guy here ship only the jerk.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
I'm not good you.
Speaker 9 (19:15):
You don't buy your things?
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Noise what bab believe that.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
You got the feeling?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
You got nothing but feeling for you so hard? Got
lost a weekend?
Speaker 7 (19:34):
NIE's got but like a fuck up the surgery and
the ten to start telling me the flash of teeth
And I'm running out of ax goten Yeah, and I'm
running out of good Yeah. And I don't know what
I've beenie wanted Yeah, And fuck I think I lost
my wallet. Fuck, I think I lost my wallet.
Speaker 14 (19:53):
Fuck.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I think I'm getting out.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Of wall Oh where does it go?
Speaker 6 (19:58):
And do you have the answer to my questions?
Speaker 15 (20:03):
Baby?
Speaker 16 (20:03):
I don't know, but so not the can mean cositom
that's a creezy.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
And don't.
Speaker 17 (20:14):
You don't buy your things got te noise o, baby,
don't believe you can feel?
Speaker 9 (20:27):
Can feel fire love?
Speaker 6 (20:34):
We'll say all this, soull settle the snow.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
We'll settle the size.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Still in town, we'll settled.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Settle now.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Why you are still in town? Don't if nowhere start with.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Your le not going on? Baby, take me high and high.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
I don't even fen nowhere.
Speaker 18 (21:10):
Starting, don't know what's going on a baby, take me hard, high.
Speaker 14 (21:22):
And hi.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
High.
Speaker 19 (21:28):
We'll get it, fid so, no, baby, cut a job
so we can go skate on us.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
We're getting higher and higher and high and tire and high.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
Baby, who who.
Speaker 14 (21:55):
Who?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Night?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
That's good. It was okay, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I got so distracted by how amazing your voice is.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I was like, thank you. I've never like, I've never
done that song like that, and I kind of like
it like that. Yeah, I try to do some harmonies.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
But then I was like, oh crap, I forgot.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I know. The hermons are weird too, and the fucking
syncopation of all the lyrics to or it's it's a
lot of lyrics.
Speaker 13 (22:25):
It's a lot of fucking lyrics.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I forget them.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
But I see the Blashomedan them you see yeah, yeah, okay, cool,
But I actually kind of do this kind of a joke.
But also not at all.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I think this was like right when I wrote this
was like right when I was getting into her.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, I mean it doesn't sound like that at all.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I feel it. Yeah, it's pretty amazing, thank you. Yeah, yay,
see this is fun, right, Yeah, I like it. Yeah,
it's weird.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I feel like when I asked people to do this,
especially in the beginning before I had any episodes, and
even now, I feel like when I ask people to
do it this don't listen to it and understand completely
what it's about, and so it's always like they don't
know what they're walking into. And I'm like, it's easy.
It's supposed to be fun.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You know. It's not definitely not polished, but that's that's cool,
part of the fun. Yeah. Yeah, thank god. I'm not
polished at all, so it would.
Speaker 13 (23:21):
Be oh my god.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah. So you just did Coachella. I just did Coachella
for the first time. First time. It was your first
time going or anything, first time playing. I went one
time in twenty nineteen. I had a better time playing. Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Did you have a backstage pass in twenty nineteen?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I actually did, but I didn't use it, but I
got in because my friend it was actually the end
of my first ever tour that I did, and the
people that we were opening for this my friend name's Fenn,
who's in this band called Still Loosey. They their final
stop was Coachella. Oh cool, and so we just like
drove down with them after our tour and went to Coachella.
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And so how was it this weekend?
Speaker 13 (24:04):
This weekend?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Well, it's two weekends, right, right, it's two weekends. Who thing,
It's quite a thing. I feel like there's a it's
the most pressure and the most work I've ever put
into playing a festival because people like I think maybe
because it's so close to La or something like music
like music lovers are there, but then also every industry
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person and their mother is there as well, like literally
everybody's mom is there too. So like it's it's just
like a lot of build up to like what is
just a show, which is just it's a huge thing.
It's a huge thing that yeah, just gets built up.
But so the first weekend I was quite nervous, probably
the most nervous I've been for a show in years,
but it I think it went well. And then the
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second weekend was so chill and amazing. And I played
with a nine piece band, and that is that bigger
than normal, Bigger than normal. Normally it's a four piece,
but I did nine piece, which added kind of to
the stress, but also added to the fun because all
of my it was all of my friends that like
kind of throughout the past ten years of my life,
who some of them knew each other, some of them didn't,
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And then like I got them all in a room
and then we all became like this one big, happy
family and so honestly, like the biggest It reminded me why.
It reminded me why I kind of really love playing
music with people in a live setting. And just like
like when I was in high school, I was playing
music and it's how I like made my friends. Like
all of my friends we were jamming together and that
(25:32):
was like my social scene. And then I feel like,
once you get into working and traveling so much, the
community is really important because you're traveling all like my
band is, we're traveling all together.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But it becomes a bubble, it's organism.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
It becomes an organism. Yeah, and I forgot that I
can like look outside of the organism and like, you know,
have this sounds weird, but like have like human experiences again,
does this makes sense to do? It makes sense? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You can get super insular when you're working hard, yes,
and touring a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yeah, you know, and that's what you're in that zone
right now, super in that zone. You know.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't do that anymore. I mean, I to worry,
but I'm not like at the beginning making things like
riding a wave anymore.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
So what I remember that the waves being written.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It's hard. Yeah, you're writing the shit out of it.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Oh yeah, faking it's like it's psychotic, and it's honestly
like I was talking to my friend who was playing
percussion for me at Coachella, and he doesn't like really
leave town. All of his work is kind of like
in town work, and and I was just talking and
I was like, he's like, oh, yeah, you like must
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have people like texting you all the time, blah blah blah,
or like whatever, you're like busy and hanging around people
all the time. Because I think he is. And I
think that that's just like the general perception of the
job is that it's like you're you have like an
abundance of friends and fun and party and it's just like,
like I was talking to it was like actually, like no,
and like nobody really texts me and I don't really
(27:05):
talk to people like ever. And then I was like, wait, am.
Speaker 13 (27:09):
I like super lonely?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
And then I started getting in this big trip about
oh my god, being lonely? Sorry, is this weird?
Speaker 14 (27:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
It's great, are you I think?
Speaker 13 (27:18):
Sometimes?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Yeah, it can be isolating being on the road. Yeah,
it is super isolation.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I mean you basically have to have your crew in
band is either your best friends and that makes it
a lot better, yeah, or or they're not and that's
really hard.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah. I think that when I'm on the road, I'm
not lonely and isolated because my band they are my
best friends. I also tour with like my boyfriend too,
So it's like, which actually is great for me.
Speaker 13 (27:43):
For some people it's bad.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
You know. It can be great when it's great, yeah,
and it can be not when it's not. Yeah. Yeah,
but it's great to feel like you have a little
bit of a family on the road totally.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So do you feel like you're more lonely when you're
not on the road.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, but that's because I've been on the road for
two years and it's fine winding down like literally right
now as we speak, it's like I leave tomorrow for
three more shows and then that's pretty much it the
rest of the year. So I'm just anticipating this, like
I need to like build a life again, and I
don't know how to do it because I have I'm
completely out of practice, so I've.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Been through all that. It's really hard. Yeah, And when
you finish a tour or take a break without something
really close on the horizon, it gets really you get depressed.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 13 (28:29):
I get really depressed, or I used to.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Now I have kids, so I'm distracted, heavily distracted, and
I well, that's good. That is my life basically when
I'm home, so I don't have that time to wonder
what I'm doing, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
But I remember that time when I was your age.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
In fact, I was twenty seven when I was my
most like lost in my life when I got off tour. Yeah,
and I took a pottery class, dude, I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Like two weeks ago, took a pottery class. PLA. It's
called bitter Root, which is maybe ten minute drive from
where we are right now, and I was like, this
is going to solve my Probably that's exactly what I'm not.
That's so funny. It actually helps. It's like, you know,
it's a tool. It's a tool.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Getting a hobby is a pretty rad thing that I
didn't learn until I was in my late twenties.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Dude, me neither. I'm like learning it now, but I
don't even know if i'm learning it. I know that
it needs to be learned. I need to actually put
into practice.
Speaker 13 (29:31):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
You're in the you're in the open zone where you
you know what you need to Yeah. Yeah, And it's
also weird because I just don't I don't want my
life to just be like my job and then like
my significant other and then like me alone. Like it
just it needs to be enriched. But it's so hard
to know what to do, so hard to know what
to do.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
It it'll become clear.
Speaker 13 (29:53):
Yeah, as you keep going.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
But I keep having pregnancy dreams, and I think it's
because I think it's because part of me is like, oh,
if I have like dogs or like a kid or
something like that, the next step is a dog, Yeah,
before the kid.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Well that's what I did. You do your own order.
But like, yeah, I got a dog at twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, oh my god. Okay, we're on like the same
little path here.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, and then I didn't have kids, so I was
like thirty four. But I think, yeah, something like that
helps ground you, and it gives you something, gives you
a little bit of a purpose when you're not on
stage or a recording basically. But yeah, but you got
to make sure you get a travel friendly dog do otherwise.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, you know, it's tough. I mean I have. I
got a dog when I was twenty three. His name
is Juno, and I named my first record after him.
He was with me the entire time I made that album,
and then I went on tour and my parents were like, Okay,
we'll take care of him while you're on tour because
he's like forty pounds and he's oh yeah, crazy, and
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he was like, there's it on tour.
Speaker 10 (30:55):
No.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I mean, that's like the gamble. When you get a
dog as a puppy. It's like you have no idea
what they're personality it's going to be. It's true, and
he was definitely not a tour dog. So I was like, okay,
can you guys take care of him? And then they've
just been taking care of him. And they sat me
down for dinner, maybe six months ago, and they're like,
he is not your dog anymore. Yeah, you're never getting it.
You're never getting him back. We love him, he is ours.
Speaker 13 (31:18):
And I was like, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
You, I mean, what are you going to do? You've
got to work. I have to work, and like, and
you're lucky that he has a stable place and you
can go exactly exactly.
Speaker 13 (31:28):
Yeah, no, it's great. But now I'm like, fuck, I
had another dog.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Oh no, no, you gotta wait.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, maybe you have to wait. Maybe wait, I got
a dog, my dog, Ralph. He's still around and he's
fifteen years old. Oh my god, is he little? Wait?
I was twenty seven when I got him. That means
he's wait, maybe my math is off.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Okay, maybe I wasn't twenty seven when I got him,
because he's fifteen now. Anyway, but he's he was supposed
to be little, yeah, to take like on the plane,
and he grew and grew.
Speaker 13 (32:00):
He's very tall.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
He's he's more like a medium sized dog. But when
he was young, I I took him on the plane.
You know, you put him in a bag, under the
seat in front of you, which is really it's it's
actually fine for a lot of small dogs, they're comfortable
in there. But he wasn't because he's tall, and I mean,
he wasn't like crammed in the bag. Don't Yeah, I
(32:22):
don't want any angry letters there. He was. He fit
in the bag.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It wasn't like bad, but he got severe anxiety. And
turns out he got severe anxiety on the plane and
on a tour bus and a car is the vibration.
Speaker 13 (32:39):
He hates it.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
So yeah, that's I did take him on the butt
on a few bus tours for a long time.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
He came on tour a lot.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
And after the first three days on the bus he
totally chilled and he was fine. Oh that's cool. But yeah,
he was not the like travel ready passport and and
but he's the best. Oh that's good. He's a sweetie.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
But yeah, for a long time we had have like
I had to have roommates. I had roommates for a
while who would just live with me so that I
could tour and they would just stay with Ralph for
a couple of years. Some friends just friends, Oh yeah, yeah,
like close friends.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Oh that's good. Okay, I live alone right now.
Speaker 13 (33:16):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's wild. Does it feel like it?
It feels at times like it's like the best thing
ever because I need to have alone time sometimes because
I am like surrounded by people a lot. But sometimes
it also it's like, I it'd be nice if there
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was like a warm body, just like even if it's
like three rooms away. Oh, like the roommates situation. Yea, yeah,
like I know what you mean. I think I think
I've lived alone only short periods. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, it's a trip to be around in Brazilian people
and then come home and be like who am I?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's like the weirdest thing to navigate ever.
Do you have your how long have you been in
the home here in now to two years? So basically
while you've been on tour a lot. Yeah, So do
you have it set up in homie or are you
not at that phase in your life yet? I think
that comes in your like mid thirties maybe. Well, yeah,
(34:21):
it's yeah, it's weird. I'm actually thinking about like buying
a house right now. It just feels like a thing
to do. I don't I don't know, like that's what
you're supposed to do. That's what I'm supposed to do.
And I kind of like this Coachella weekend actually inspired
me because we rented this house so that we could
all stay there and there's a pool and I was like, wait,
the pool, like the watering hole, like that's where people gather.
(34:44):
And I was like, what if I had the pool
where we all gathered. You want to be the hostess
with the mostest I do, And so I'm like, I
need a pool, that's right, But we'll see, we'll see
what happens. And I want to be chill, and I
think that the I think I'm not chill, and I
think the pool will chill me out. Potentially. Maybe a
hot tub would chill you out. Maybe a hot tub.
(35:04):
That sounds actually fucking great. Yeah I'm into that. Yeah, yeah,
go back and forth. Yeah that sounds like a good
like thing. Yeah, it's a good thing. Yeah that's exciting.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah. And you can you can like decorate it with
all your pottery exactly. Yeah. The thing about this pottery place, though,
is I was I made a bowl. Yeah. I was like, great,
it's hard to do the wheel, It's so hard.
Speaker 12 (35:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (35:28):
Well, so hard.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
But I made a bowl.
Speaker 13 (35:29):
It looks like a bowl, and.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Then they're like, you're getting it back in six months.
Speaker 14 (35:33):
I know.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
It's so unsatisfying, right, Yeah, I need the bowl like
next week, dude. Yeah, but it takes forever to finish
it and bring it home. Yeah, what is up for that?
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Well, because you know they're on their own schedule with
whatever firing kiln they have, and yeah, you get a
pay once you start. If you can go regularly, it
gets more clear.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
But yeah, I do go regularly. Do you still do?
Not right now? But I did.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I haven't done it since like the pandemic basically. But
I I'm not great at the wheel, but I make
these weird masks because I grew up going to pottery
and making these weird masks.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
And so I just sort of do what I know
from childhood, and so I do I do that. I
do like the hand stuff. I like the hand stuff
better I took. I was like huge art kid in
like middle school and high school, and I was always
in ceramics making oh cool making. I guess I made
a couple of masks, but I would make like sculptures
of shoes and like, oh, weird shit. Yeah, I would
(36:33):
make weird so too. Yeah. So it's familiar. It's familiar.
Speaker 13 (36:36):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah for sure. When I was a kid, I
took the same class every year and I would make
this thing called slug Land. It's stupid. It's just a
slab with like a slug family on it.
Speaker 13 (36:50):
Oh that's cute, it's really weird. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Well, I mean I think it's cool. It's cool.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
But like I think we had slugs on our porch
in Texas and they were always there and it was
so gross.
Speaker 13 (37:00):
And I don't know that's slugs, not snails.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Slugs. Actual slugs, like banana slugs are like big, yeah, random,
probably like that, like yellow slugs.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
No, they were gray, they were gray. They weren't very pretty.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
But wow, that's cool. Slug Land anyway, it's like polly
Land but slugs.
Speaker 16 (37:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
But I kept doing like different ones, like you don't
need more than one.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Plate.
Speaker 13 (37:25):
No, it was functionless.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
There's no heart.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
That's art.
Speaker 13 (37:30):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
It was hard. It was like my nightmares come to life.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
Oh my god, got this fan?
Speaker 9 (37:54):
Oh not the good card.
Speaker 14 (38:00):
This Parma stoic makes my scape cold. Look at the slave,
so so patient, so easy.
Speaker 8 (38:13):
It's I can from it. I will show it to
a feel on and baby from it.
Speaker 11 (38:25):
I will show it to the child. May sakee.
Speaker 18 (38:39):
Game Holway staggle here make easy.
Speaker 7 (38:46):
It's it's a mod and a boos. Even mother food
showed my mom for script.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Sh you know.
Speaker 9 (39:07):
Oh, I'm coming over the walls. I made getting over
that pass in my head.
Speaker 8 (39:15):
So I put my.
Speaker 20 (39:18):
Bread and toaster and I'm making uppen in an easy baby.
But we're not out man, feel wanted baby. I can't
prove it.
Speaker 9 (39:34):
I will show to it, feeled baby, I can't prove it.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
I will show it to you.
Speaker 9 (39:45):
Godby take the heavy.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Game in Alastad.
Speaker 18 (40:01):
You'll make easies and chew. It's a moment and the
blues even mother a blues, your mom?
Speaker 8 (40:14):
What was somebody?
Speaker 21 (40:22):
The fire and the flame statues work one the same,
Chee and I really like the fire in the flame.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
That is.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Because work one and the same Histoe and I really
like it. We did it. That's great.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
That's a good one. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
You like that one?
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Okay, I do this one makes me nervous for some reason. Well,
first of all, it's not out so it's just scary
when you're leading up to that.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Oh, like you don't know how people will respond.
Speaker 13 (41:17):
It just feels vulnerable. And I also wrote it for
this show.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Oh so it's something which is something I've never done.
What show. It's called I'm a Virgo and it's it's
directed by this guy, Boots Riley. Do you know who
that He did that movie Sorry to Bother You, which
is like crazy. He's like a crazy psychedelic madman. So
I think it's going to be this really crazy psychedelic show.
(41:42):
But yeah, I wrote it.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
For the show.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
And it's also just very different from my other stuff,
which might be good. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Oh it's different.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
I know what you mean when something's very different from
everything else.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
It's it's late.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Yeah, it is a little more vulnerable. It feels vulnerable. Yeah,
it's fine saying it is fun.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Well you sound great, thank you.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
That's cool. Sound great too. I like the re harms. Yeah,
I didn't mean to. I think I was here, but
that's cool.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
I heard the minor four in one part and I
liked it a lot. Yeah, but yeah, good, I'm glad
you didn't mind that it wasn't exact.
Speaker 13 (42:15):
I don't give I don't give a shit, dude.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
This is this is very fun for me. Thank you
for like learning my songs. Oh, I'm honestly such an honor,
Like it's crazy, So thank you.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
It's fun for me, and you know it keeps my
brain inspired. Yeah, active, but like actually inspired, like learning
all of these songs by different people. Everybody has a
different thing they go towards, and you're always just.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Picking stuff up and learning. Do you like see the
patterns and people's chord progressions some stuff?
Speaker 13 (42:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, I haven't completely found yours, but I think I
tend to gravitate towards specific keys, and I think I
fluctuate a lot.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Recently in my writing, I've been loving a major six. Yeah,
that's been very fun for me. Those are great major.
I don't know do you mostly Do you only write
a guitar? Do you play piano or keys or anything?
You did mostly write on guitar, but a lot of
the times. My one of my co writers that I
(43:18):
write with, like I've written most of my catalog with him.
His name's Jared and he is an incredible guitar player
name Jared Solomon, and we grew up together. We were
like in bands together when we were fifteen and sixteen,
so he's known yeh, known each other for a long
time and have been making music together for a long time,
(43:40):
and I just a lot of the time he is
just a genius. So he's just like making these crazy
progressions that I don't even really know what's going on,
but I will staying on top of them. But when
I write alone, I tend to love what do I like?
I love a one for yeah, or like a four
or five I like. I love two chord songs I
(44:03):
do too. I love them well like disco Man's Disco Man.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, yeah, I write it's just a jam, and then
you can put you can put different melodies over it
and change it and have a chorus and you can.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, it's just fun. It's like easy and breezy and
just like awesome. And sometimes, like if I'm writing alone,
it's just too complicated for me to have too many
progressions going on because I'm not a great I like,
can definitely make my way around a guitar, but I'm
not like a great player, so it's just easier to
keep it simple. Two chord bangers love them.
Speaker 13 (44:34):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
And then you have fun and you can dance while
you're playing. You can dance, you can kind of, yeah,
I know what you mean. When there's too much going on,
it gets a little it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
I mean it's it's it's crazy. But when other people
are doing the crazy, then I can like like do
my crazy, yeah a little more. Do you ever play
guitar in your shows?
Speaker 5 (44:54):
Not?
Speaker 4 (44:55):
I really don't. I hate playing on stage.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Why because you can't dance, I can't free Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Yeah. I love moving and I love holding the mic.
And I think if I were to ever play something,
I would want to play bass or something because that
just feels more.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Like like you can wobble around like it's weady.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
On the opposite, if I don't have a guitar or
a piano on stage, I don't know how to move.
It's like I don't know how to move.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Really.
Speaker 13 (45:19):
Yeah, it's like you normally play.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I play, I don't really play piano, and then some
guitar on stage, some guitar. Yeah, I'm not a great
guitar player, but I I like to switch it up.
I like getting up from the piano because I like
to face the audience and I love to play the guitar.
But yeah, the piano is so awesome, but it's so
limiting on stage. It really separates you from everybody. It
(45:44):
separates you from the band. Do you like with your
stage plot? Is it like you and the center with
the piano.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
It's a constant struggle because I have to see everybody.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
I like to be close. I don't like being too
far away.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I don't like laying on monitors, you know, so I
like to be close enough. I mean, we have monitors obviously.
Speaker 13 (46:05):
Do you do any monitors or no?
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Okay, I used to when I was, you know, starting
out we were playing bigger venues though.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
So yeah, but I hate them. Yeah, I mean, you know,
I feel like you probably need them with the kind
of places you play, especially Coachella, you know, like I.
Speaker 13 (46:24):
Mean, yeah, you can't get around it.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Yeah. So and a lot of the rooms I've been playing,
like theaters are just so verby.
Speaker 13 (46:32):
They are if they can trip you up, it's yeah,
it's just trippy.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
So you kind of need it. But I'm bad, and
I do One year in one ear out Is that bad?
It's bad.
Speaker 13 (46:42):
It's bad for your hearing, bad for your hearing.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yeah, this year is this is the one I take
out and there's a noticeable difference. So which one is
it bad? For the one you don't use it in?
Speaker 13 (46:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:54):
See, I feel like when I used to use them,
it was the ear I had in that would ring.
After that fact, maybe I just I think my stage
volume has never been that loud. Yeah, so you probably
have a much louder.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Mine's a loudishing thing because we're going just everybody's going crazy. Yeah,
and it's just it's just loud, and I like it
to be loud so that I can like feel the
energy of it, because if it's too quiet, then I'm like,
it's it's just so dissociative for something. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know. You mean, yeah, it's such a it's everybody
does things different. Yeah, you know, it's crazy so different.
(47:29):
It's awesome. Though. The only other person that I know
that doesn't use in your monitors is Madison Cunningham. Do
you know her? I know who she is? I think, yeah,
And she like just has her four piece and they're
all just like really close together and yeah, they hate
in ears and they just rock the wedge. Yeah, it's
my favorite way to do it.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
The piano just kind of throws a wrench into it. Yeah,
do you use the grand piano or I do I
for a long time, in the middle of the last
twenty years, I used to upright because I was playing
more guitar.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
But that's when I had a bigger band and I
didn't play as much piano. And now I have a
smaller band and I'm like really digging into the piano.
And I might try it upright again, but I think
I'll miss the low end, you know, but whatever, blah blah.
Speaker 13 (48:16):
This is some nerd talk?
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Is this nerd talk?
Speaker 6 (48:19):
Not to me?
Speaker 4 (48:20):
But not to me?
Speaker 1 (48:20):
I wonder if people listening are I think they're bored.
Speaker 13 (48:23):
I don't know, Are you guys bored?
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Yeah, you guys, this is like interesting. This is what
I'm interested in. I know, well, because you're a musician.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I don't know if everybody is interested in this stuff,
but I think it's interesting everybody, everybody.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
I just like to hear what people do.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
It's like I need to learn everybody slices their ham differently. Wait,
that's not a thing, turkey turkey. Maybe no, there's like
a way to slice it.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
Yeah, I feel like there's definitely a way to slice
Ham too. I know people like Cube Ham and do
shit like that. What about like the Deviled Ham? What
is that?
Speaker 14 (48:57):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (48:57):
Just like minced Ham, Deviled old Hand? I've never heard
of that.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
That'd be a good band name, devil Ham.
Speaker 13 (49:04):
That's fire.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
You're recording an album. I'm recording an album.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Do you have any idea when it's going to be done?
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Probably soonish? Yeah, I want it to be done soonish
because I'm kind of over it. I've pretty much been
writing it for a year and a half. Now what
you said, you are?
Speaker 1 (49:21):
You writing a lot and then you whittle it down
very from a huge swath of songs.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
Yeah, there's probably like fifty songs or something.
Speaker 13 (49:30):
That is crazy.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Yeah, that sounds intense. I've never done it like that.
It's super intense. Have you really never? What's your What
do you do? I normally have a group of songs
and get excited and start doing it, and I usually
have very few on the floor after like maybe two
or three if I'm lucky, very few on the floor
Like that don't make the record.
Speaker 13 (49:53):
Oh really, okay, that's crazy? Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
My My process is super has been super I think
it's because I work with different people. Like I haven't
yet done a project that's like solely one producer or
a project where it's like I'm taking songs to a producer.
It's more like I go in, we have a session,
and we like make the song in the room with
(50:17):
different people. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, but that's sort of a typical way to do
it in the world of pop music. And yeah, that
kind of pop well more like popular music, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
I think so. I mean that's what That's definitely what
a lot of people in LA do. It's a very
la yeah type thing. But it's been interesting because I
have these songs. I have like fifty of them or
something like that. I like them all. There's ones that
I definitely like more. But since I've gotten home from
tour and I get I get in these like little
depression things. But it's kind of awesome because I will
(50:52):
sit in my house and I've just been writing songs
alone on the guitar, which I haven't done in years.
Oh yeah, like because you've been too busy, too busy
to do it, and I'm just like, I feel like
that needs to be the next thing, you know, which
I think is maybe more of a it's a more
focused project, more focused project.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah, I mean writing that way is so cool because
you're going it's like going fishing and you're like catching
all this cool stuff. But being in a zone and
catching a vibe and then like threading it through everything
is a different way.
Speaker 13 (51:28):
It's a totally different way that I think I really
want to do.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
Yeah you will. Yeah, I think there's just so many
things I want to do, and I feel like I'm
just like, yeah, I'm like, can I focus for once
in my life? Don't really get to talk to people
like you a lot who have like done what I'm
doing and are have done it for a way longer
time and have kind of just been through the ringers.
(51:53):
So thank you for talking to me. I'm happy to
talk to you. It makes me feel us insane. Call
me anytime, except I mean, you're on a much different ride.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
You know, we're we're still on different rides, so I
don't different very different worlds and like different stage setup,
you know, everything.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
But still, yeah, there's a common there's a common thing.
If you ever need.
Speaker 13 (52:18):
Anything, Okay, should we just try this?
Speaker 4 (52:24):
I think I might be really bad at singing the
song when I was when I threw this out as
an option. I did not realize that I was gonna
have to sing it. I think I was like, oh,
this is a great one, do try. It was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
I was going to sing it for you.
Speaker 6 (52:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
Well, we try it. It's high because her voice is
very high. Yeah, it's so high. Okay, I know it now.
I was like, what the fuck do I know on this? Okay?
Speaker 13 (52:53):
Ready, yeah, okay?
Speaker 15 (52:57):
On the high were digging gooday afternoon, full up the highway.
We're heading for a Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 7 (53:13):
Plenty of sunshine letting the way for of the things do,
taking our own sleep time, starting out easy and slow.
Well on the highway, we're taking Sunday afternoon. Plenty of
(53:38):
people stretching the lakes out, shifting and keep.
Speaker 22 (53:44):
Traveling roads with curious faces standing back at you, taking
our own sweet time, moving up, easy and slow.
Speaker 15 (54:00):
We're on the highway. We're taking Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 6 (54:09):
Have you been.
Speaker 9 (54:12):
Flowerding with your U tree.
Speaker 11 (54:17):
Takes you've never seen?
Speaker 7 (54:25):
Do you want to Gus get a car kick kicking
kick Gigy?
Speaker 9 (54:34):
Want to Gus get.
Speaker 15 (54:36):
A car kick kicking kicky Gigy?
Speaker 7 (54:40):
Thinking about people tasting the sweetness, living to the food,
thinking about children, laughing and saying it, taking us to school,
taking our sweet time.
Speaker 15 (55:00):
Going up, busy and slow, well on the highway.
Speaker 23 (55:06):
We're digging Sunday afternoon, go and fall, and I'm old.
Speaker 16 (55:22):
And and well, waiting to our fans. M m hm,
smileing back guys.
Speaker 20 (55:41):
Skinky ki kick kick kick, thinking bouteople.
Speaker 7 (55:47):
This in the sweetness, liveing to the phone, think about children,
and laughing and singing, and taking us to school, taking
our time, growing up easy.
Speaker 14 (56:06):
And so.
Speaker 6 (56:09):
We're on the highlay.
Speaker 23 (56:11):
We're digging Sunday afternoon, waving.
Speaker 22 (56:19):
To spiling backa.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
K. We're on the highway.
Speaker 23 (56:38):
We're digging Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 10 (56:44):
There it is.
Speaker 5 (56:45):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
I loved it. It sounds good. It was fun. I
tried to dou w and be the double when I could.
Speaker 13 (56:51):
Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 4 (56:52):
I like singing and using.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
I feel like I've been sow into harmonies my whole
life that I forget that.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Unison's fun. Unison's fucking be really fun.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Do you have other singers in your band or is
your whole band sing.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
With the nine piece that we just did? I have
two singers singing with me, so doing harmonies, but normally
it's just I have the harmonies in the track.
Speaker 17 (57:15):
Ah you do.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
But I'm a huge harmony person. Yeah, really into them.
They're great. But I love I love the Unison who
sings in Unison there's I was just listening.
Speaker 13 (57:25):
I don't know what it was.
Speaker 4 (57:26):
I was just listening to some stuff that was in
Unison and I was like, damn, Like it is such
a flex to be able.
Speaker 13 (57:31):
To to really really do it so well.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
Yeah, do you know Gillian Welsh and d Rallings They
have this one song they do that is in Unison
and they play so quiet, so it's even harder, you know,
And I mean their voices are just so melded together.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Anyway, but it's really beautiful. I can't what's called right now,
but it's my favorite.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
Well, this was so fun, so fun. Thank you, thank
you for doing it. Yeah, we're friends, No, we're friends.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yay, we didn't get it. Yeah. Wow.
I love her voice.
Speaker 13 (58:07):
She's grabbed.
Speaker 4 (58:08):
So glad we did that Blossom Deery song.
Speaker 3 (58:11):
So cool to hear this like stripped down version of
what she does.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
Yeah, because her her albums are very pop kind of
production wise, you to like not have that much going
on but still be so powerful.
Speaker 4 (58:23):
It's just like, yeah, you'll credit to her voice.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
She's great.
Speaker 4 (58:26):
I love her. Let's hang out on, Remy, Let's hang
out more.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
If you want to know what songs we played in
this episode, we did Discoman from Remy's EP I'm Allergic
to Dogs. We did WU from the same EP, the
song Prescription, which is Remy's latest single released earlier this
year twenty twenty three. And we did Sunday Afternoon, the
Blossom Dary song from the Blossom Dairy Sings nineteen seventy
three album. This episode was recorded at night Bird Recording Studios.
(58:52):
Recorded by Colton Lakey, assisted by Louis Sanchez Navarro, mixed
by Jamie Landry, edited by Sarah Ode. Additional editing and
mixing by Matthew Fasquez. Additional engineering by Matt Marinelli. Artwork
by Eliza Frye. Photography by Shervin Linez. Produced by Norah
Jones and Sarah Oda. That's me and you. Hey, hey girl, Hey.
Speaker 4 (59:15):
Oh hey, I'm like, why didn't she responding? Thanks for
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