March 28, 2023 • 56 mins
A fellow piano player, songwriter and Texan, this episode with Robert Glasper was meant to be! Norah and Robert reminisce about their days at Performing Arts High Schools and band camp, and recollect all the alums that have inspired them from the start. They perform a stunning Radiohead cover, a recorded collaboration they’ve never played live together before, and a meditative composition by Duke Ellington. Get caught up in the walk down memory lane, and find out the advice they both got from their friend, Q-Tip! Recorded on 2/7/2023.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm playing along with
Robert glasper part one.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm just playing lone Wezy, I'm just playing in lone wey.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hi, welcome to the show. I'm Norah Jones and with
me as always. Hi, Sarah Oda, It's me Sarah Oda. Hi,
Sarah Hi ah Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
This episode makes us both sigh at the same time.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This was so much fun. Also, this episode we recorded
as part of a trip to la we went.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
On together, and it was definitely a highlight of our trip.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
It was such a highlight. And also it was such
a fun trip and crazy and now I'm having memories
of our trip just thinking about this episode. In that day,
after we were done with this episode with Robert, we
went and had dinner and we were just like, we
stuffed our face so pasta. We were so happily, we
were high. We were kind of high on on.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Podcasts and pasta.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Basically, our guest today is a pianist, songwriter, producer, composer,
range ordinaire all around incredibly talented human Robert Glasper Yay.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
He is also quite a special personality.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yes, he's very uplifting. He like just listening to him
talk make I feel.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
He makes me happy. Yes, just being around him and
his energy is beautiful, it's contagious. He's he's a he's
one of those good humans that you know, you just
are happy to be around.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yes, he walks in the room and everybody's just feeling
a little bit better, a lot, a bit better.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
A lot better. He's so kind. And we start off
this episode talking about it, and we'll talk about it
a lot, I think. But I actually met Robert for
the first time when I was fifteen years old in Denton,
Texas at Jazz Camp, Jazz.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Summer Camp, Jazz Camp at Jazz Camp.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Have a story a podcast. I do have a story
like that, but not for the podcast. But yeah, it
was so awesome thinking about knowing Robert at that time
and we were just babies, you know, and it's just
so sweet. And we've we've actually, you know, seen each
(02:36):
other over the years. We've recorded a song together, I've
sat in with him a couple of times at shows,
but we've never gotten to sit down and hang like this.
So this is this was such a special thing for me.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
This episode felt like a high school reunion in a bottle,
you know, just like just hearing all the names of
people that you both grew up with and were in
spy by people who were just you know, a couple
of years older than you, but you looked up to.
And I feel like maybe really set the foundation for
the path that you ended up being on. And even
though you both you and Robert had different paths, you
(03:12):
crossed paths and you know, kind of connected in different ways.
It's it's so fun to hear like the journey that
he's been on since then.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
He's in, his journey has been incredible. And it's definitely
a shout out episode. So I think we have to
tag everybody that's in this episode.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Sohow we will?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, because there's there must be like one hundred hundred names,
so many names talk about. We talk about a lot
of special people in this episode.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
So many connections. I mean, I feel like this episode
was like just longing to happen, you know, and then
when you started playing music, it felt like you could
just play a hundred songs and not run out. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, I wish, I wish we had more time, but
this was a long episode, so we decided to make
it a two parter.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Oh, I thought you're gonna go low.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Okay, let's start it. So we decided to make it.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
A two part.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Should like an echo?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Oh yeah, okay, and we should keep this part into
no this is this is not cool? Okay, all right,
So please enjoy this episode. It's a little shorter than
normal because it's going to be a two parter overaller
but worth it. Worth it, and then be sure to
tune in again for the second part when it comes out.
And I hope you enjoy. Please go see Robert Glasper
(04:33):
play wherever he is playing. You will love the show.
He's got Obtoberfest coming up in New York City at
the Blue Note in October. I think yep.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
He does his like month long residency there.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's pretty so, yeah it does. It's a tiny, tiny club.
I'm hopefully going to sit in on one of the shows.
Don't know which one, but.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
And congratulations to Robert for winning his why are.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You yelling all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Congratulations, No, congratulations to Robert for winning his fifth Grammy
just this year for Best R and B Album Black
Radio three.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, that's awesome. Enjoy our episode. Hope you enjoyed the
episode with Robert Klasper. I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Oh yeah, look at us. We're here. We are here.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's you know, Oh, we're on.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Oh, we're on.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's only taken us how many years to actually play
music together together.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
In the same room.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Yeah, I mean remember when I first I don't know
if you remember, because okay, for those of you don't know,
we met a jazz camp.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I don't know where I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Oh, you don't have to look anywhere.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Yeah, so we met a jazz camp. We're both in
like eleventh grade or something.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, I think we're fifteen or sixty fifteen or sixteen.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
The jazz camp at Villeville in Dnville, Danville.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Denton, Texas, Denton, Texas and Texas.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
You and T Denton, Texas U and T University of
North Texas. That's right, that's right, in a jazz camp.
After that jazz camp, the next time I saw you
was at the new school.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You were in the practice room, practicing.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I've heard you tell the story.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
And she was just playing and I walked by, and
I was like, because I haven't seen her at that
point in probably like three years or something forty years, Yeah, like, what.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Are you doing here?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
You're like Oh, my friend let me in the practice
room so I could probably working on a demo. And
then after that day, next time I saw you was
on the Grammy's holding all the Grammys.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I was like, you went from the I'm.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Working on the demo to all these Grammies and I
was like, oh my god, it's crazy. And then after that,
I remember each time I saw you after that, I
did this thing with the Roots at Radio City Music.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I was there, Yeah, and me and you.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Were both sitting on the on the side of Questlove.
This is when he was really big. We sat there
for an hour, probably didn't see each other because that
was on the right side of him. You were on
the left side of him, and we both reached for
like ice or some chips. That's literally what happened. We're
both like, We're both like it was crazy, and my
Maria was in the middle.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like you that's so funny.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, but man, good times and congratulations on
so many things.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And congratulations you just want to grabby. Was that yesterday
or the day before.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Maybe before yesterday?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, And I was there in the audience. I
watched you go up. I was so stoked and you
were like my pants just fell down.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
I literally the morning of I realized that my pants
I lost more weight.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I didn't realize I lost weight, but apparently I lost weight.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It was an old tux.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
It was an old.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Tux, and so I lost weight. And I didn't try
it on till the morning of the thing. I was like,
I'll be fine. Yeah, and I was like, oh snap.
So we put like safety pins and it was fine.
I was like, okay, cool, and I wore my shirt
out anyway. It was I was kind of being chilled, like,
you know, I had cool sneakers and a cool shirt,
you know whatever. As soon as they called my name,
(07:49):
I was like, oh snap, and I jumped up, and
I think when I jumped, the safety pins just gave out.
And I started running down the aisle. I felt my
pants falling down. I was like, oh snap, I gotta
hold my pants up. So I literally the whole time
after we after won Grammar did the speech and everything.
The whole night at the Grammys, I had to walk
with my hand in my pocket just to.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Hold them up. Oh my god, You're like way too
cool for everybody.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Somebody want to give me that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I was like, that's too funny your handsl fall down.
Did you at least have good looking underwear on?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I think I did, okay, just in case, But it was.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It was so exciting though. I was so happy. It's
so sweet to me to know you from that age
and to see you go up there and accept an
award and to see your show the other night.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
So dope.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I mean, I was so stoked. I don't know if
I I felt very awkward because I sometimes I don't
know what to do with my hands when I'm not playing.
I'm just not used to it anymore, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, but god, I love hearing you play with Christen,
Christadie Days, Chris, Dave and Derek holy crap, Derek Hodge.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Literally my band is my favorite musicians.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It's so great now. It's such a great feeling to
feel like that. How long have you played with him?
Are they from Houston?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
No? Well, christ is from Houston. He is.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Yeah, he went to how he went to my high school,
high school performing arts, but he went like he graduated
like he's a little older, a little older. I think
he graduated ninety two, okay, and not graduated ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, we're the same age.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
We're the same age. Yeah, so we went to So
you went to book T right.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I went to the Performing Arts in Dallas. Yeah, Bookert.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
So I have a lot of friends I went there.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I feel like we're like parallel sister schools.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Yeah, absolutely, because you had.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Erica yeah, Roy Hargrove.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Yeah, I went to school with Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And wait, she went there. Yeah I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Yeah she went yeah, yeah her ninth her freshman year.
I was a senior, she was a freshman.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I actually did not know that.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Desney's child the next year, the Destiny's Child did the
Super Bowl and they never came back.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Oh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
They home schooled after.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I knew she was from Houston, but I had no
idea she went to the.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Performing Like literally, my little sister, I remember salons come
up to the schools running, give me a hug Like
that was like little sisters, so sweet. So seeing it's crazy,
like yeah, from high school, you and Beyonce, like it's
you know what I mean, Like it's it's it's crazy
to see so many friends like blow all the way
up in the world.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Like yeah, well it's the same thing when I'm watching
you and it's like, I'm so proud, and I just
remember being at that jazz camp and being like one
of two girls or something, and it's like all the
dudes and you know, feeling like a door. Yeah, you know,
everybody was nice, but like, I don't feel like we've
ever sat in a room and talked without a bunch
of people around. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's really special.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah definitely Texas. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Dang, it's really special. I'm so happy he did this.
I only met him once. Yeah, he was older, you know,
so he wasn't there when I got to the school.
I only got to meet him once. Yeah, but I
used to like I was obsessed with this record of
his in high school and I learned a lot from listening.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Of course.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
I mean, he's the person when people ask me, he's
one of my biggest influence influences because he came to
my high school to do a clinic and that was
my first time seeing a young jazz band all black
wearing stuff I was wearing.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
They were wearing jeans.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, they weren't like wearing suits.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
They weren't suits.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
That's the first time I saw it, and I was like, oh,
I can be that because he looked like me.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Most of the time jazz musicians like like, I remember
I used to go to I used to go to UH.
I used to play with the Winton when I was
in college and we used to go to schools and play.
And I would always wear like dress and the wind
and win and then would wear the suits like how
do you But after the show, you know, all the
kids would run and make a.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Line to talk to me because of your clothes.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Because I look like that, you know, because that's not
put it to two and two together too, like, oh man,
that makes sense because you look you want to be
what you see, what looks familiar, like it's a reachable goal,
you know what I mean. Like and it's like, yo,
that makes sense if I look like it's reachable to you,
like Roy did to me. I was like, oh man,
I could do that. I could play jazz. It's still
(12:18):
we're sneakers and jeans.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
You know, it's so cool.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
You know so that he really inspired me with that,
and then he took me on my first world tour.
You know it was Urge Factor, his band arch Factor.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Oh Man, I wish I could have seen that.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
So I was. I was a freshman in with that
freshman in high school, in college college. Yeah, freshman in college. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
He took me up from on the world tour and
the first shows in Houston.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Oh my god, my mom, God bless her soul. My mom.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Walked up to the front of the stage while Roy
is playing the said give my baby a solo. I
swear to guy. The whole band saw everybody die left Roy.
He was like, hey, you heard your it was a song,
don't leave a solo.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
And I'm like, Mom, what are you doing during the song,
during the during the song the first song.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Absolutely no, but that that was my mom though, that
was that was that was her.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Oh that's very sweet. Did you did you grow up
in church?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I grew up in church. Yep.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I grew up my first time playing in church with
a small church and if it was somebody's birthday or
birthday month, the preacher will let me come up and
play Happy Birthday on the piano. And I learned that
with literally one finger Happy Birthday at eleven and then.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Throughout the years.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Because my mother was a minister of music at the church,
so yeah, she was the choir director and everything. So
but during the week she sang in clubs and you know,
did like duo, piano, piano, voice, jazz standard stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
And she's singing clubs doing jazz, yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Jazz and Top forty and Broadway. She loved Liza Minelli
and it's amazing. I know, more Broadway things than ship
that's a black man. It's weird, yeah for sure.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
So yeah, so just like all kinds of music, you know,
coming up. But I learned how to play literally in church.
They had like a broke organ in the corner. So
my mom was conducting the service. I was just learning
on that organ in the corner. Yeah, you know, and
then I just got good just by that.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
That's so cool.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I feel like that's similar to so many musicians I
know growing up and going to being at that school
in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, playing in church. I learned to sing in church
actually really yeah, but you know it was more Latin
kind of hymns and stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Gotcha. The Catholic No, it wasn't, but the.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Choir director used to be Catholic.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Yeah, because I played in the Catholic church too. Every
so on Saturdays, I played for a seven day Vanish church.
On Sunday. Early morning, I played at the Catholic church. Wow,
Sunday at eleven o'clock, I played at the Baptist church.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's the best practice.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
So every for the last two years of my life,
I played at three different churches three days a week.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
That's amazing, you know.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
And and all those churches had choir rehearsal, yeah during
the week, so I was in church all the time.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But that's such a great gig, and I.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Was bollowing out of control. I at that dough, that
church dough.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well, those church gise.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I know a lot of people that no church gise
play extremely well now, especially now now that it's cool
to be a touring musician and still have your church gig.
And now the pastors and stuff, they're like, yeah, my my,
my ms directors on tour.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, they're cool letting out.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Before I did it too early, Like I started when
I got to Houston. When I got to New York
from Houston, my pastor in Houston knew a pastor in Harlem,
so I had a church gig immediately. And so when
I started playing there, everything was fine. But six months
in I started my friend Balau singer Ballow. We met
at college and we started working on his album. And
(15:45):
then like a year later he started touring and I
was going on tour and with him, and.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Like Christian McBride, I was on tour with and.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Roy and Roy and back then it wasn't cool yet.
It wasn't totally cool yet. They were like, you gotta
make a decision. You got to be here or go
on tour. Yeah, well, I love you God.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But uh, I love you God, but I'm going on tour.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I got to be out man. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
But now, like that's the thing everybody holds onto their church,
get subbered out till they get home.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Yeah, because it's it's big money there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Do you want to try a song?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Do you want to try that one since it's fresh,
or do you want to start with like let it
ride or something? What you want to do, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
We'll try since it's fresh. Yeah, do it, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Well, So you did this on a live sort of
a live covers album.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Yeah, So I did it at uh the Capitol Building.
Oh yeah, yeah, I did it. And so what I
did was I had a bunch of couches brought into
the studio and I made it like a little club.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
And I had a full bar and had a bartender,
So I made the studio like a club.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I got that from Cannon by Idley, Oh yeah, he
did that.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Studio's a lot of live albums.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
You hear some of those, specially back then. They were
actually in the studio because you want the live element,
but you don't want the sound of a live element sound,
So you get the best of both worlds by just doing.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
It in the stand.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's idea.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
So I had people come invite only at Couches and
like you know, like I said, a full bar, boom, boom, boom,
and we just played two.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Sets a night like a show, like a like a
gig man.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
So I did two sets boom boom, and then the
next day I did two more sets, and then I
just chose the best from each, you know, boom, and
that's that was the record. Yeah, you know, so it's
live live at Capital.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's great.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Yeah. We did the reconder one of my favorite Radiohead tunes.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
It is from in Rainbows, right, is it from Rainbows?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
And I haven't played this since we recorded it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I've never I've never done it, She's.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Never done it. So this is going to be fun.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Let's see what happens. God, this is a good song.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Oh man, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And I can I can read the lyrics now, lyrics
it's hard to understand.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Sometimes given up on any lyric that James Brown, DeAngelo,
Tom Yorke, you can go down the list. I don't
know what y'all saying, but y'all are amazing. But I've
never known anything you've ever said.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
But then when you actually read it and they're good,
it's like, wow, exactly.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Exactly, exactly exactly, it's a whole another thing on top.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Now my heart's beating fast.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
You don't be really dope. I'm gonna try to maybe
keep a beat. What you know what I'm saying, mouth beats.
I like it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The whole time.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah, I don't know about the whole time because in
the middle of it kind of breaks up, it does
a thing.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Yeah, but then when it goes back.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I'm excited, you know what I mean. You know what
I was thinking when I was listening to this, Yeah,
I would love to hear a gospel choir saying.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
This, oh absolutely, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well it's got all those choral parts. But then like
to have just the vibe a little different that absolutely
so beautiful. Absolutely do you want to do you have?
Speaker 6 (19:08):
I don't know if I can. My breathing is going
to work for that might pass out. I just did
it for ten seconds just now.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I was like, well that sounded like, let's not do this.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
We have it. Yeah, we got it. We got it
for sure, for sure.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
I cannot.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
You can't take it.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
With you.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Day shan four.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
You'll play.
Speaker 10 (20:35):
Oh oh you.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
To blame.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
For paid her sweet.
Speaker 11 (21:17):
Disturb day.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
Let's speak it's name. Oh daddy came.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
To oh you.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Mad because.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
We said.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Parade like grapples.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
A lot of blads.
Speaker 11 (22:25):
Shoot oh because.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
We said.
Speaker 11 (22:44):
Play like grapple, lot of blad.
Speaker 10 (22:54):
O show they cannot jaw it standing a little case
(23:30):
to omn.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
S mm h.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Smoo.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I mean it was kind of cool.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
It was cool. I messed up once or twice, but
doesn't matter. The vibe was there.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I love was there. I love that, I love I
love you. Play.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
It feels so good, it does.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I feel I feel like we're family.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
We kind of are, haven't said we haven't just spent
time together, but.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Cousins like, yeah, we're like cousins who were But yeah,
yeah your show the other night, I felt that real
sense of family. Also, just everyone there too, your whole
crew is like a family.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
I don't, I don't. I don't do good with assholes.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I know you're good. You've cultivated like this beautiful community.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Yeah yeah, I mean we're in a business where you know,
you run across people who just aren't cool and not
you know, but there you have to deal with them.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah, those are the people you didn't see. They were
in another section.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I did not see those.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
So far.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, I loved it, I guess. I mean so many
people too that felt like family. Like I met Leilah halfaway, No,
I've never met her before, and she felt like family.
I mean it's crazy. Absolutely, it's just so nice.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, and you introduced me to Jillie old wife, which
was pretty freaking alsome.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Yeah, Ercle came to mind. I had Ercle and I
had thel Hux.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yes, you did. It was amazing. It was next to
our generation was just dying.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, it was so sweet.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, it's cool your show is cool because you do
a lot of different things. Yeah, And I didn't realize
you sang so much.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I just started because you didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Sing last time I saw you. No, No, that's a
new thing.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
This is new because what happened was last year I
was on tour and my vocalist at the time, uh
fir my boyfriend, he got stripped through. It was the
last week, the last end of the tour. I was
at the Blue Note. We had a week and he
got stripped through in the middle of the week and
so he was done, and I was like, man, we
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were doing black radio songs. I was like, man, I
gotta try to sing one of these songs.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
I was like, people know I'm not a singer, so
it's not gonna take me too seriously. It's just for
the vibe.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
So that's why I started, like, let me try one,
and it worked out that night. I was like, maybe
the next thing I'll try to that's cool. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
So then I just started kind of doing it more
and more because I figured the more I just get
used to it, the better i'll get, you know. And
I have like pedal stuff and stuff from tuning and
stuff and I'm still starting to figure like an figuration
out what may work the best. But the more I
do it, the better I think, you know what I mean,
just for something different.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, you have a cool effect on your voice.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Yeah, put that on there and trying to, you know,
make it interesting at some point because I'm not a singer,
so you're not you know, you don't want to hear
my tone?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
No, but you're not not a singer. I mean you
sounded you grew up singing.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah, but in church. I mean I just want to
sound decent for the VI. That's it. Decent and vibe it's.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Great and you get them out. But I think he
sounded great. It was really fun. I was like, oh crap,
should I have him sing something? If you want to
say something?
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Yeah you use that, Yeah, yeah, have a little and
yeah absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Actually no, let's go back. Okay you wrote the song
and saying with Tip.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Oh yeah, life is better, life is better?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yes, you know I actually didn't know that right until recently.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Until recently.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Yeah, yeah, so q Tip was working on his album
The Renaissance, and I was there in the studio a
lot doing some of the joints and blah, blah blah.
And then I was like sitting there trying out something,
trying not to key. I might've been getting sound something,
and I started playing the what became Life Is Better.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
He was like what's that? And I was like, I
don't know. Just He's like, keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
So then we kind of cultivated and made it the thing,
and I had to leave town the next morning and
we were sitting me and him were sitting around.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
He was like, oh, what should we deal with this?
And I was like, you should be like a singer
to sing a hook on it. And I was like,
Norah Jones.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You said it.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
I said it.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Oh thank you, I said.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
I was like, I can hear Noura on this. That
would be dope.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
He's like, ah yeah, nahahs So he's like, oh yeah,
that'd be dope. And then I got on the plane
and I think I went on tour or something.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, you weren't there.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
I wasn't there. Then he hit me like yeah, no,
I came through and killed it, and I was like, oh, absolutely, absolutely,
that's such a dope joint.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
He's done. It's so cool man, so good. It's really
dope joint.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
It's funny because I went in and I hadn't met
him before.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Oh really no, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
And I was excited. I was a little nervous, but
also I was kind of in those days. I was
super oblivious, like I was almost too oblivious to be
nervous a lot. And he had me sing this part
and he's like that fel but it was kind of
high for me. And I remember I said to him,
was like, it's a little high. I don't know, Kenna.
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He's like, no, it sounds great, just do it. It
was a really good lesson and don't don't pretend like
you can't do something until you go for it. Actually,
and it kind of made me learn that I could
sing Hi. It's weird.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
He made me play organ on not that song, but
the U song. I don't play organ. I'm not an
organ player. That's a different instrument. It is a whole different.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
My husband's a good organ player. He learned playing in
a church.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
There you go exactly. I learned playing at church. But
it was a broke organ, a cheap, small one, so
it's not even the real one.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
It didn't take.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
It didn't take at all.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Yeah, So that song you is the first recording of
me playing an organ on any record. Oh cool, on
a real record, you know. And I told him I
didn't want to. I said, I know organists. Let me
let me call my boy I know, I know Cory Henry.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Let me call him. You know, yeah, I know guys
that are great. You know. He was like, Noah, you
can do it. Just just do it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Exactly what happened to me.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
That's why I brought it up, because I was like,
he made me. He literally was like, you could do it,
just do it. You can play orgon just play it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
That's why he's such a great producer.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Exactly exactly he saw what he saw our limitations, what
we thought were limitations.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Yeah, no, it's not a limitation.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But that's the best.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
So I was like, okay, so I played organ in
that song. I was like, Oh, I did do it.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
That is so cool. I want to do this cutube song?
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Sure? What?
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Hey? What?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
What what are these chords?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Because I know, I just I had to relearn them today.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, because I actually I've always been like.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
What is this because that happens to me. I'm so
much like that. I do sound checks or something and
they'll be like what's that? And I'm like, I don't know, yeah,
and they'll recorded and loop it and I never play
it again.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Then I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
But it's so nice. Your hands just go to a shape.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Yeah, so I think the vibe is more like.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
So, I think it's like G major B minor passing
chord to C major to C sharp minor nine mm hmm. Yeah,
That's what I'm getting with the vibe is.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
But it's it's fluid.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Days, food great, but now comes in.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
These fun.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Hip hop is.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Flat again and it's burying.
Speaker 12 (33:06):
I'm gonna bang it for you.
Speaker 13 (33:12):
Don't stop this feeling a fit. I just want to
around all day and feel the breeze will still my needs.
I'm so into a rich history me tell me stories
and take.
Speaker 12 (33:29):
Me away, Come and take me, Come and take me
with you. Life fits better now that now that I funny.
That feels better now that now that I found life.
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It's better now that now that I found you. Life
things better now now that I found you. Life its
better now there now that I found you, life is
better now that now that I found you, life is better.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Life is bitter.
Speaker 10 (34:19):
Live is betterf you.
Speaker 13 (34:23):
Live is Beter, I feckspara.
Speaker 12 (34:30):
Now that well that I found you, I feel it's better.
Speaker 11 (34:36):
Spen you.
Speaker 12 (34:41):
Now that I found you lasts better.
Speaker 9 (34:52):
Who who.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Oh, Yeah, I love that song.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
It's a good song.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
It's a great song.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
And his verses are they're great.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
It's so it's so relevant because it's now, it's the
fiftieth a University of hip Hop too.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, it was funny watching the other night at the
Grammys watching.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
That whole thing. Amazing, it was awesome.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
It was amazing, And and Q Tip shouted out a
lot of those guys that are on the stage. She
shouted out so many rappers in that song.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I kept waiting for him to come out, right, Yeah,
I was hoping to be there, but yeah, he does
that song is like, I love all of that that
he he did that.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Absolutely, it's really thoughtful and it is you have to really,
you know, take your time and really figure that out
because the history of hip hop is a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yeah, and you can't leave out this person. You can
have that person without this person, you can have that.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But you know, yeah, it's tricky. It's a slippery slip.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, that's so funny. I haven't played
that song since it recorded.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Me neither me neither. I never got to play it
with him do.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
A video too.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
We did a video, right, Actually, that's one of my
favorite videos.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
I've ever done.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I remember I got there and I think I was
really uptight with the director, and I think it was
kind of not I wasn't like a bitch, but I
think I was just like nervous and tight, and I
was worried about how I looked, and I didn't know
that they were going to blow it out like that
and it looks so cool, like my makeup didn't matter
because they made it black and white.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
And yeah, way yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
And he was late and I was like where is he? Yeah,
and then we had so much fun. We shot it
in like twenty minutes. Really yeah, it was like very quick.
So yeah, but we never got to sing it together.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
I did a video for a song called getting Up
on that same album. Oh yeah, but that's why I
took my eye eyebrow ring out. I had an eyebrow
ring And when you watch the getting Up video, I'm
the first thing you see, like it comes on is
my face right here and it pans out and I'm
playing piano. But it was like a time period kind
of vibed to my eyebrow ring. They didn't like, they
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didn't fit the vibe. They told me to take it out.
I couldn't put it back in.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
After its you could never get it back in.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
I could never get it back in.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
So ower basically, I'm kind.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Of glad because you know, I had it too long.
I shouldn't need to be out anywhere.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
It was a little dated as it was.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
It was exactly for sure, you had.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Long hair, then you had long drugs.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
You have dreads. Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
When I did, I played her Tatum in this Aretha
Franklin documentary. Cool, that's the geographics genius. Okay, they just
stay on different artists and then went for the Franklin.
So this is one cint the revo did. She played
Aretha and I played art Tatum. Guess what couldn't put
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it back in?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So therefore I have no.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Earrings and now you don't have all that You don't
need all that stuff to be cool. Yeah, you just
need pants.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
That's yeah. I need to at least try on what
I'm gonna wear before.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Before you do it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
So funny, Like I literally was walking around holding up
my pants.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Is that the it was that the first time you'd
play with him, or you've done a bunch of stuff
with him.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
No, I've been going over to cut TIB's house since
before that record came out, for like seven years, because
he loves to He just loves creating. So I would
go over there and replay samples for stuff that he's producing,
like replay the actual samples from the records, and they
would come up with new stuff, and you know, I've
been on tour with them a few times and stuff
like you know what I mean. So that that's been
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my guy I've been. I've been dealing with Tips since probably.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Like ninety nine because oh wow.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
He knew Blao and then because of BALaw, I was
always around him with Blaw you know what I mean.
And then he then me and him got cool because
of that situation. Okay, blow was my intro.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
He's your gateway.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
He's my gateway to that whole like neo soul movement
that happened in like ninety seven. That he was my
gateway because he was a part of that whole thing
and everybody needed. Everybody wanted to be allowed to sink
on stuff. And yeah, he's from Philadelphia. He's so cool,
and he's so cool and dope. And I was the
friend that was always we were best friends, like we
were always together.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Yeah, And so that's kind of how I everybody knew
who I was.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I was wondering, actually, I was like, how did you
end up from jazz camp to the new School And
that's still not a gateway to this whole community.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah, but it was that it.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
Was I moved to New York during the neo so
moving the roots, We're doing all these jam sessions in
New York. Yeah, they had these legendary jam sessions every
week in New York. And there was a legendary jam
session and Philly at the spot called the Black Lily,
which literally where the neo soul movement pretty much was
Births Club, and they would do something like I think
every Tuesday, and that's where like allows you to take
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me on the but we took a Greayhound bus to Philly.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Oh my god, that jam session, because.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
That's that's when I saw Jazz myself and she was
like the fourteen really in the club. Wow, I saw
Jazzmine and then quest Love and James Poyser, James, James, James.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
My guy is he also know he's from Philly.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Yeah, Philly.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
He's a big He's a backbone to that whole James Poyser,
like the backbone to that whole neo soul movement.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, I didn't realize how much he produced and.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Produced and you know, his style of playing.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
I copped a lot from James's playing, you know what
I mean, A lot of people don't even realize that.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
But he too.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
He played on one of my records.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
And yeah, he came with a style that didn't precede him.
Like no one plays like James, you know, and now
they do. But he has a certain style that just
it was his own and every you kind of have
to play like that to play this genre. That that's
that's that's sort that sole genre. You to play like
James to make it work. And so that became a
part of my style. But I was trying to show
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me how to do it, and he was like, you
you got to play like this, but it's not that,
but it's this, And I was like, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Can you show me what you're talking about show me James,
I think I know.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
But there's a song that Blouded called Sometimes and it's
like a it's like a.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
Some too.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (41:25):
It's that.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Yeah, that that little yeah, those things. Yeah, those things.
I also copy it, yeah exactly, but in a way,
in a way, because you hear those things, you also
hear that kind of twang in country music.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, but it's not quite the same. It's a different
wilt exactly. Got like a different accent, it's.
Speaker 6 (41:51):
A different accent, different vibe on the different yeah exactly.
But James has he cultivated that thing, and it's like
that's the thing behind so many of our other great songs.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Of that time.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Yeah, shout at the poison.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
James great songwriter too. Like I said, he wrote this
song sometimes for Loud. I mean, he wrote so many
great songs. I didn't funny story I was when I
met you. When I was playing with the Roots of
Radio City, we rehearsed the song called the Other Side
of the Game. That's what's called Other Side of the Game,
so Erica. But song James is late coming to the rehearsal,
so we're in the middle of playing that song, and
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when he walked in, I was like, oh, the changes
are He was like, oh, I think I think I
know it because I wrote it.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I was like, that was my that was my ship.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Absolutely, yeah, but he's so quiet.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Did he play with her in the beginning.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
Yeah, I think he did shows and stuff. She's always
heard a band from Dallas.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Which who I know to high school with.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
She always had those guys.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
But there are times obviously when she comes and plays
with the Roots or whatever that that James is playing
with that but she already said she's always had those guys.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yea are see Brandon Jones.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
You know Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Daniel Jones was my freshman buddy when I was a senior.
They put us together and he was like, he's doing
great ranges, like you know, justin Timberlake shows and and
that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
Janet Jackson's director right now.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I didn't know that, like puts.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Together amazing shows like just Arrange Manson.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah. But yeah, Daniel, Corey, Lacy, Sean Martin, se Sean,
I mean I.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Just talked to Sean yesterday. Yeah, that's my guy.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Just these guys were huge, But yeah, I love his
drums and his sister Rachelle. So they were huge influences
on me because they were all like a year year
or two older. And I mean I feel like I
absorbed all that in high.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
School for them, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
This whole other thing.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
I had this we had a rivalry because but then
you even know what anybody looked like. I couldn't hear
anybody really play. Yeah, there was no internet.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, so that's true.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
All we knew was who won an all stage.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Jazz band exactly?
Speaker 8 (44:02):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (44:03):
Yeah, one year I won the piano chair for the
all stage Jazz band, and then we had I g
E remember, oh.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
My god, I went. Yeah, it was crazy and you
got to meet everybody.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
I got to meet everybody. But they came looking for me,
like who the hell?
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Who's Robert class class?
Speaker 6 (44:19):
That's still trending right now. So they all came to
my show with my high.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
School your high school band played.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
High school band played. I had a solo on this
on like so what and I played. Then after that
I met them and they were all cool, and then
we had the jam session. I sst to have pictures
of our jam session. We made a jam one of
the rooms and Sean Spudd, Brayln Daniel. I brought Daniel Perez.
I'm in high school. Were to have a jam session?
You want to jam with us?
Speaker 5 (44:48):
He was like, let school, bro, Oh my god, that's
what Daniel is.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
My guy's amazing. I just two the Grammys just now.
He was, Yeah, I love him, he's my guy.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
So it was like those those times of I ge
and getting together and seeing all the students that you
can't Yeah, there was no internet, so you didn't couldn't
really do a you know, connection like that, so you
got to see everybody there.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
It was such a scene though.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
It was such a scene important and like.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
The nineties jazz was so exciting. It was such an
exciting time for that musically.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
Kennygarrett, Brad Mildo, Brad Mild.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
And like, I never did, I've never done anything with them.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
That just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
What's I mean?
Speaker 5 (45:25):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
He's one of my favorites.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Just the cruise with him. I got a chance to
hang out with him for the first time just now
in the Blue Mielt Jazz cruise.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Did you turn into a high school kid?
Speaker 5 (45:33):
One thousand? I got a chance to hang out with him.
Larry cool.
Speaker 6 (45:38):
Yeah, and yeah, and uh Jeff Jeff Ballot amazing. We
got a chance to really hang because I would go
to his shows, but I was in college.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah, you're not like hanging after the show.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Can you sign my my down beat mad?
Speaker 8 (45:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:53):
And brad Man he's just like he's always been a
big influence on me too.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Oh, I love him and he also loves radio.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I remember going to see Josh Redmon in Fort Worth
at the Caravan of Dreams and it was it was
supposed to be Christian mcbriene on bass, but I think
it was Chris Thomas on bass in the end and
it was Brian Blade on drums. And that was my
first time seeing Brian play. And now I play with
him and it's like.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
My dream, you know, still my dream to play with Brian.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Have you never played with Brian?
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Okay, let's make it happen.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
He's just a he's a magician. He's a makeup artist.
He is you know what I mean. He just makes
beautiful like he is.
Speaker 6 (46:36):
It's just he's so beautiful when you beautiful, and he's
groyd and just disrespectful when you need to be when
you need to be disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
He will hate it hard, yes, but he's so sensitive.
But I felt like that watching Chris Daves. I felt
like every time he touches anything, it is it is
like it's it's purposeful and it's there's something like magical
about it. Absolutely, and they're so different, you know, but like, yeah,
I feel like that watching him. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, this
(47:07):
is my dream.
Speaker 6 (47:07):
When I watched Brian, I love how he looks surprised.
He looks surprised at things that are on the drums
for me, but he'll be.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
Playing, he'll be playing. If he'll look at a symbol,
he'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, did you not know
that to somebody like bring it? You didn't know? Because
he like he's still like a kid playing like he's so.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Well, he's so reactive to everything in the moment, Like
he's more in the moment than anyone I've ever.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
I feel ever played with. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, yeah, he's so like he's like, yeah, I know
this song I'm playing, Oh.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
I'm gonna go over here.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, but it always it's never like ye weird. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
His Fellowship Band Top five concepts I've ever seen in
my life. I saw him play at the vanguard years
and years and they were still doing anything.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
And it just puts me to tears, you know, like
it's very moving, super moving.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
It's also very like soulful and like everything he does
is with a big heart intention.
Speaker 6 (47:57):
I wrote this tune off of there's a tune called
Cricket Creek on his album is the very first record
Role and actually what you gonna wrote it?
Speaker 1 (48:06):
John John?
Speaker 6 (48:07):
Yeah, beautiful John. I love John Yeah, beautiful play. And
I wrote a song. I listened to Cricket Creek so
much that summer. I wrote a song off like Move
on my very first album. It's a song called Mood.
Speaker 5 (48:20):
What a Mother?
Speaker 8 (48:33):
That's pretty.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
And I literally I wrote that song because of Cricket Caek.
That's the very first tune I wrote on on the
for for an album, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Like, yeah, oh, we're gonna have a lot of tags
on this podcast, all our favorite people.
Speaker 6 (49:01):
Absolutely, absolutely, But it's important because you don't get a
chance to really tell the story of you know, who
helped you get here, where you came from. Just it
could be one song from one person that meant so much,
that is a part of your life and part of
your whole thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
All my friends from high school absolutely one more Shelton Summons, Yeah,
Charles Mcampbell.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (49:24):
Yeah yeah, I had Kendrick Scott, I had Wattersmith.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
And so they were at camp too, though. Mackenzie Mackenzie
mcken and I went to college with Mackenzie.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
Gotcha, yep, yep, that's my guy.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah. Man, it's like it's that family.
Speaker 6 (49:41):
Absolutely so good that you know, those performing ours high
schools really shape you. They really don't realize in the moment,
but it's like, yeah, they really really shape you.
Speaker 7 (50:09):
A shop.
Speaker 10 (50:59):
Shoot ship for sh.
Speaker 7 (51:31):
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Speaker 4 (51:39):
Shay.
Speaker 7 (53:30):
This a.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Hm. Yes, there's nothing like those and those black.
Speaker 8 (54:45):
That's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
Oh that was fun.
Speaker 5 (54:47):
About Oh that was so fun, so fun.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
It's amazing. I don't think we announced that last song
we played, but that was Florette Afrikaan by Do Callington.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yes, and if you're wondering what the other two songs
in this episode were, the first one was Reckner, a
radio Head cover.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yes that he's recorded before, and the second song was
Life Is Better, which is a song he wrote with
Q Tip that I sang on the album version. Yeah, yeah,
that was such a fun episode.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
So fun, you guys, I mean it really just connecting
on all those different people that you have in commons
so fun.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
That was really special actually, and just hearing him talk
about people who made him who he is, it's really beautiful.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Yeah, he's definitely so appreciative of every person that inspired
him along the way.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
He's such a giving person. Yeah, it's rad and we
have part two coming up, so be sure to tune
in for the rest, which is equally special. Yes, yeah,
thank you so much for listening.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
This episode was recorded at Sunset Sound in Los Angeles, California,
by Clint Whelander, assisted by Zach Zaidel, edited by Sarah Oda,
mixed by Jamie Landry. Additional engineering by Pete Hanlon and
Matthew Vasquez. Artwork by Eliza Fry, Photography by Shervin Linez.
Produced by Me and Myoda. Thanks for listening. Don't forget
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to like and subscribe. Yo Adios Adios
Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm playing along with
Robert glasper part one.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm just playing lone Wezy, I'm just playing in lone wey.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hi, welcome to the show. I'm Norah Jones and with
me as always. Hi, Sarah Oda, It's me Sarah Oda. Hi,
Sarah Hi ah Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
This episode makes us both sigh at the same time.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This was so much fun. Also, this episode we recorded
as part of a trip to la we went.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
On together, and it was definitely a highlight of our trip.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
It was such a highlight. And also it was such
a fun trip and crazy and now I'm having memories
of our trip just thinking about this episode. In that day,
after we were done with this episode with Robert, we
went and had dinner and we were just like, we
stuffed our face so pasta. We were so happily, we
were high. We were kind of high on on.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Podcasts and pasta.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Basically, our guest today is a pianist, songwriter, producer, composer,
range ordinaire all around incredibly talented human Robert Glasper Yay.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
He is also quite a special personality.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yes, he's very uplifting. He like just listening to him
talk make I feel.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
He makes me happy. Yes, just being around him and
his energy is beautiful, it's contagious. He's he's a he's
one of those good humans that you know, you just
are happy to be around.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yes, he walks in the room and everybody's just feeling
a little bit better, a lot, a bit better.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
A lot better. He's so kind. And we start off
this episode talking about it, and we'll talk about it
a lot, I think. But I actually met Robert for
the first time when I was fifteen years old in Denton,
Texas at Jazz Camp, Jazz.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Summer Camp, Jazz Camp at Jazz Camp.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Have a story a podcast. I do have a story
like that, but not for the podcast. But yeah, it
was so awesome thinking about knowing Robert at that time
and we were just babies, you know, and it's just
so sweet. And we've we've actually, you know, seen each
(02:36):
other over the years. We've recorded a song together, I've
sat in with him a couple of times at shows,
but we've never gotten to sit down and hang like this.
So this is this was such a special thing for me.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
This episode felt like a high school reunion in a bottle,
you know, just like just hearing all the names of
people that you both grew up with and were in
spy by people who were just you know, a couple
of years older than you, but you looked up to.
And I feel like maybe really set the foundation for
the path that you ended up being on. And even
though you both you and Robert had different paths, you
(03:12):
crossed paths and you know, kind of connected in different ways.
It's it's so fun to hear like the journey that
he's been on since then.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
He's in, his journey has been incredible. And it's definitely
a shout out episode. So I think we have to
tag everybody that's in this episode.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Sohow we will?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, because there's there must be like one hundred hundred names,
so many names talk about. We talk about a lot
of special people in this episode.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
So many connections. I mean, I feel like this episode
was like just longing to happen, you know, and then
when you started playing music, it felt like you could
just play a hundred songs and not run out. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, I wish, I wish we had more time, but
this was a long episode, so we decided to make
it a two parter.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Oh, I thought you're gonna go low.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Okay, let's start it. So we decided to make it.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
A two part.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Should like an echo?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Oh yeah, okay, and we should keep this part into
no this is this is not cool? Okay, all right,
So please enjoy this episode. It's a little shorter than
normal because it's going to be a two parter overaller
but worth it. Worth it, and then be sure to
tune in again for the second part when it comes out.
And I hope you enjoy. Please go see Robert Glasper
(04:33):
play wherever he is playing. You will love the show.
He's got Obtoberfest coming up in New York City at
the Blue Note in October. I think yep.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
He does his like month long residency there.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's pretty so, yeah it does. It's a tiny, tiny club.
I'm hopefully going to sit in on one of the shows.
Don't know which one, but.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
And congratulations to Robert for winning his why are.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You yelling all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Congratulations, No, congratulations to Robert for winning his fifth Grammy
just this year for Best R and B Album Black
Radio three.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, that's awesome. Enjoy our episode. Hope you enjoyed the
episode with Robert Klasper. I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Oh yeah, look at us. We're here. We are here.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's you know, Oh, we're on.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Oh, we're on.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's only taken us how many years to actually play
music together together.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
In the same room.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Yeah, I mean remember when I first I don't know
if you remember, because okay, for those of you don't know,
we met a jazz camp.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I don't know where I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Oh, you don't have to look anywhere.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Yeah, so we met a jazz camp. We're both in
like eleventh grade or something.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, I think we're fifteen or sixty fifteen or sixteen.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
The jazz camp at Villeville in Dnville, Danville.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Denton, Texas, Denton, Texas and Texas.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
You and T Denton, Texas U and T University of
North Texas. That's right, that's right, in a jazz camp.
After that jazz camp, the next time I saw you
was at the new school.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You were in the practice room, practicing.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I've heard you tell the story.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
And she was just playing and I walked by, and
I was like, because I haven't seen her at that
point in probably like three years or something forty years, Yeah, like, what.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Are you doing here?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
You're like Oh, my friend let me in the practice
room so I could probably working on a demo. And
then after that day, next time I saw you was
on the Grammy's holding all the Grammys.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I was like, you went from the I'm.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Working on the demo to all these Grammies and I
was like, oh my god, it's crazy. And then after that,
I remember each time I saw you after that, I
did this thing with the Roots at Radio City Music.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I was there, Yeah, and me and you.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Were both sitting on the on the side of Questlove.
This is when he was really big. We sat there
for an hour, probably didn't see each other because that
was on the right side of him. You were on
the left side of him, and we both reached for
like ice or some chips. That's literally what happened. We're
both like, We're both like it was crazy, and my
Maria was in the middle.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like you that's so funny.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, but man, good times and congratulations on
so many things.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And congratulations you just want to grabby. Was that yesterday
or the day before.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Maybe before yesterday?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, And I was there in the audience. I
watched you go up. I was so stoked and you
were like my pants just fell down.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
I literally the morning of I realized that my pants
I lost more weight.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I didn't realize I lost weight, but apparently I lost weight.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It was an old tux.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
It was an old.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Tux, and so I lost weight. And I didn't try
it on till the morning of the thing. I was like,
I'll be fine. Yeah, and I was like, oh snap.
So we put like safety pins and it was fine.
I was like, okay, cool, and I wore my shirt
out anyway. It was I was kind of being chilled, like,
you know, I had cool sneakers and a cool shirt,
you know whatever. As soon as they called my name,
(07:49):
I was like, oh snap, and I jumped up, and
I think when I jumped, the safety pins just gave out.
And I started running down the aisle. I felt my
pants falling down. I was like, oh snap, I gotta
hold my pants up. So I literally the whole time
after we after won Grammar did the speech and everything.
The whole night at the Grammys, I had to walk
with my hand in my pocket just to.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Hold them up. Oh my god, You're like way too
cool for everybody.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Somebody want to give me that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I was like, that's too funny your handsl fall down.
Did you at least have good looking underwear on?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I think I did, okay, just in case, But it was.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It was so exciting though. I was so happy. It's
so sweet to me to know you from that age
and to see you go up there and accept an
award and to see your show the other night.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
So dope.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I mean, I was so stoked. I don't know if
I I felt very awkward because I sometimes I don't
know what to do with my hands when I'm not playing.
I'm just not used to it anymore, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, but god, I love hearing you play with Christen,
Christadie Days, Chris, Dave and Derek holy crap, Derek Hodge.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Literally my band is my favorite musicians.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It's so great now. It's such a great feeling to
feel like that. How long have you played with him?
Are they from Houston?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
No? Well, christ is from Houston. He is.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Yeah, he went to how he went to my high school,
high school performing arts, but he went like he graduated
like he's a little older, a little older. I think
he graduated ninety two, okay, and not graduated ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, we're the same age.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
We're the same age. Yeah, so we went to So
you went to book T right.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I went to the Performing Arts in Dallas. Yeah, Bookert.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
So I have a lot of friends I went there.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I feel like we're like parallel sister schools.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Yeah, absolutely, because you had.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Erica yeah, Roy Hargrove.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Yeah, I went to school with Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And wait, she went there. Yeah I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Yeah she went yeah, yeah her ninth her freshman year.
I was a senior, she was a freshman.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I actually did not know that.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Desney's child the next year, the Destiny's Child did the
Super Bowl and they never came back.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Oh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
They home schooled after.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I knew she was from Houston, but I had no
idea she went to the.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Performing Like literally, my little sister, I remember salons come
up to the schools running, give me a hug Like
that was like little sisters, so sweet. So seeing it's crazy,
like yeah, from high school, you and Beyonce, like it's
you know what I mean, Like it's it's it's crazy
to see so many friends like blow all the way
up in the world.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Like yeah, well it's the same thing when I'm watching
you and it's like, I'm so proud, and I just
remember being at that jazz camp and being like one
of two girls or something, and it's like all the
dudes and you know, feeling like a door. Yeah, you know,
everybody was nice, but like, I don't feel like we've
ever sat in a room and talked without a bunch
of people around. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's really special.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah definitely Texas. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Dang, it's really special. I'm so happy he did this.
I only met him once. Yeah, he was older, you know,
so he wasn't there when I got to the school.
I only got to meet him once. Yeah, but I
used to like I was obsessed with this record of
his in high school and I learned a lot from listening.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Of course.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
I mean, he's the person when people ask me, he's
one of my biggest influence influences because he came to
my high school to do a clinic and that was
my first time seeing a young jazz band all black
wearing stuff I was wearing.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
They were wearing jeans.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, they weren't like wearing suits.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
They weren't suits.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
That's the first time I saw it, and I was like, oh,
I can be that because he looked like me.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Most of the time jazz musicians like like, I remember
I used to go to I used to go to UH.
I used to play with the Winton when I was
in college and we used to go to schools and play.
And I would always wear like dress and the wind
and win and then would wear the suits like how
do you But after the show, you know, all the
kids would run and make a.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Line to talk to me because of your clothes.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Because I look like that, you know, because that's not
put it to two and two together too, like, oh man,
that makes sense because you look you want to be
what you see, what looks familiar, like it's a reachable goal,
you know what I mean. Like and it's like, yo,
that makes sense if I look like it's reachable to you,
like Roy did to me. I was like, oh man,
I could do that. I could play jazz. It's still
(12:18):
we're sneakers and jeans.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
You know, it's so cool.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
You know so that he really inspired me with that,
and then he took me on my first world tour.
You know it was Urge Factor, his band arch Factor.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Oh Man, I wish I could have seen that.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
So I was. I was a freshman in with that
freshman in high school, in college college. Yeah, freshman in college. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
He took me up from on the world tour and
the first shows in Houston.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Oh my god, my mom, God bless her soul. My mom.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Walked up to the front of the stage while Roy
is playing the said give my baby a solo. I
swear to guy. The whole band saw everybody die left Roy.
He was like, hey, you heard your it was a song,
don't leave a solo.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
And I'm like, Mom, what are you doing during the song,
during the during the song the first song.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Absolutely no, but that that was my mom though, that
was that was that was her.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Oh that's very sweet. Did you did you grow up
in church?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I grew up in church. Yep.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I grew up my first time playing in church with
a small church and if it was somebody's birthday or
birthday month, the preacher will let me come up and
play Happy Birthday on the piano. And I learned that
with literally one finger Happy Birthday at eleven and then.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Throughout the years.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Because my mother was a minister of music at the church,
so yeah, she was the choir director and everything. So
but during the week she sang in clubs and you know,
did like duo, piano, piano, voice, jazz standard stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
And she's singing clubs doing jazz, yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Jazz and Top forty and Broadway. She loved Liza Minelli
and it's amazing. I know, more Broadway things than ship
that's a black man. It's weird, yeah for sure.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
So yeah, so just like all kinds of music, you know,
coming up. But I learned how to play literally in church.
They had like a broke organ in the corner. So
my mom was conducting the service. I was just learning
on that organ in the corner. Yeah, you know, and
then I just got good just by that.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
That's so cool.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I feel like that's similar to so many musicians I
know growing up and going to being at that school
in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, playing in church. I learned to sing in church
actually really yeah, but you know it was more Latin
kind of hymns and stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Gotcha. The Catholic No, it wasn't, but the.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Choir director used to be Catholic.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Yeah, because I played in the Catholic church too. Every
so on Saturdays, I played for a seven day Vanish church.
On Sunday. Early morning, I played at the Catholic church. Wow,
Sunday at eleven o'clock, I played at the Baptist church.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's the best practice.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
So every for the last two years of my life,
I played at three different churches three days a week.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
That's amazing, you know.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
And and all those churches had choir rehearsal, yeah during
the week, so I was in church all the time.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But that's such a great gig, and I.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Was bollowing out of control. I at that dough, that
church dough.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well, those church gise.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I know a lot of people that no church gise
play extremely well now, especially now now that it's cool
to be a touring musician and still have your church gig.
And now the pastors and stuff, they're like, yeah, my my,
my ms directors on tour.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, they're cool letting out.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Before I did it too early, Like I started when
I got to Houston. When I got to New York
from Houston, my pastor in Houston knew a pastor in Harlem,
so I had a church gig immediately. And so when
I started playing there, everything was fine. But six months
in I started my friend Balau singer Ballow. We met
at college and we started working on his album. And
(15:45):
then like a year later he started touring and I
was going on tour and with him, and.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Like Christian McBride, I was on tour with and.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Roy and Roy and back then it wasn't cool yet.
It wasn't totally cool yet. They were like, you gotta
make a decision. You got to be here or go
on tour. Yeah, well, I love you God.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But uh, I love you God, but I'm going on tour.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I got to be out man. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
But now, like that's the thing everybody holds onto their church,
get subbered out till they get home.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Yeah, because it's it's big money there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Do you want to try a song?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Do you want to try that one since it's fresh,
or do you want to start with like let it
ride or something? What you want to do, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
We'll try since it's fresh. Yeah, do it, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Well, So you did this on a live sort of
a live covers album.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Yeah, So I did it at uh the Capitol Building.
Oh yeah, yeah, I did it. And so what I
did was I had a bunch of couches brought into
the studio and I made it like a little club.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
And I had a full bar and had a bartender,
So I made the studio like a club.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I got that from Cannon by Idley, Oh yeah, he
did that.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Studio's a lot of live albums.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
You hear some of those, specially back then. They were
actually in the studio because you want the live element,
but you don't want the sound of a live element sound,
So you get the best of both worlds by just doing.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
It in the stand.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's idea.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
So I had people come invite only at Couches and
like you know, like I said, a full bar, boom, boom, boom,
and we just played two.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Sets a night like a show, like a like a
gig man.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
So I did two sets boom boom, and then the
next day I did two more sets, and then I
just chose the best from each, you know, boom, and
that's that was the record. Yeah, you know, so it's
live live at Capital.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's great.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Yeah. We did the reconder one of my favorite Radiohead tunes.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
It is from in Rainbows, right, is it from Rainbows?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
And I haven't played this since we recorded it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I've never I've never done it, She's.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Never done it. So this is going to be fun.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Let's see what happens. God, this is a good song.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Oh man, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And I can I can read the lyrics now, lyrics
it's hard to understand.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Sometimes given up on any lyric that James Brown, DeAngelo,
Tom Yorke, you can go down the list. I don't
know what y'all saying, but y'all are amazing. But I've
never known anything you've ever said.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
But then when you actually read it and they're good,
it's like, wow, exactly.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Exactly, exactly exactly, it's a whole another thing on top.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Now my heart's beating fast.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
You don't be really dope. I'm gonna try to maybe
keep a beat. What you know what I'm saying, mouth beats.
I like it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The whole time.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah, I don't know about the whole time because in
the middle of it kind of breaks up, it does
a thing.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Yeah, but then when it goes back.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I'm excited, you know what I mean. You know what
I was thinking when I was listening to this, Yeah,
I would love to hear a gospel choir saying.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
This, oh absolutely, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well it's got all those choral parts. But then like
to have just the vibe a little different that absolutely
so beautiful. Absolutely do you want to do you have?
Speaker 6 (19:08):
I don't know if I can. My breathing is going
to work for that might pass out. I just did
it for ten seconds just now.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I was like, well that sounded like, let's not do this.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
We have it. Yeah, we got it. We got it
for sure, for sure.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
I cannot.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
You can't take it.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
With you.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Day shan four.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
You'll play.
Speaker 10 (20:35):
Oh oh you.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
To blame.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
For paid her sweet.
Speaker 11 (21:17):
Disturb day.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
Let's speak it's name. Oh daddy came.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
To oh you.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Mad because.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
We said.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Parade like grapples.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
A lot of blads.
Speaker 11 (22:25):
Shoot oh because.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
We said.
Speaker 11 (22:44):
Play like grapple, lot of blad.
Speaker 10 (22:54):
O show they cannot jaw it standing a little case
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to omn.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
S mm h.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Smoo.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I mean it was kind of cool.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
It was cool. I messed up once or twice, but
doesn't matter. The vibe was there.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I love was there. I love that, I love I
love you. Play.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
It feels so good, it does.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I feel I feel like we're family.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
We kind of are, haven't said we haven't just spent
time together, but.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Cousins like, yeah, we're like cousins who were But yeah,
yeah your show the other night, I felt that real
sense of family. Also, just everyone there too, your whole
crew is like a family.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
I don't, I don't. I don't do good with assholes.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I know you're good. You've cultivated like this beautiful community.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Yeah yeah, I mean we're in a business where you know,
you run across people who just aren't cool and not
you know, but there you have to deal with them.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah, those are the people you didn't see. They were
in another section.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I did not see those.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
So far.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, I loved it, I guess. I mean so many
people too that felt like family. Like I met Leilah halfaway, No,
I've never met her before, and she felt like family.
I mean it's crazy. Absolutely, it's just so nice.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, and you introduced me to Jillie old wife, which
was pretty freaking alsome.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Yeah, Ercle came to mind. I had Ercle and I
had thel Hux.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yes, you did. It was amazing. It was next to
our generation was just dying.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, it was so sweet.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, it's cool your show is cool because you do
a lot of different things. Yeah, And I didn't realize
you sang so much.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I just started because you didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Sing last time I saw you. No, No, that's a
new thing.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
This is new because what happened was last year I
was on tour and my vocalist at the time, uh
fir my boyfriend, he got stripped through. It was the
last week, the last end of the tour. I was
at the Blue Note. We had a week and he
got stripped through in the middle of the week and
so he was done, and I was like, man, we
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were doing black radio songs. I was like, man, I
gotta try to sing one of these songs.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
I was like, people know I'm not a singer, so
it's not gonna take me too seriously. It's just for
the vibe.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
So that's why I started, like, let me try one,
and it worked out that night. I was like, maybe
the next thing I'll try to that's cool. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
So then I just started kind of doing it more
and more because I figured the more I just get
used to it, the better i'll get, you know. And
I have like pedal stuff and stuff from tuning and
stuff and I'm still starting to figure like an figuration
out what may work the best. But the more I
do it, the better I think, you know what I mean,
just for something different.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, you have a cool effect on your voice.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Yeah, put that on there and trying to, you know,
make it interesting at some point because I'm not a singer,
so you're not you know, you don't want to hear
my tone?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
No, but you're not not a singer. I mean you
sounded you grew up singing.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah, but in church. I mean I just want to
sound decent for the VI. That's it. Decent and vibe it's.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Great and you get them out. But I think he
sounded great. It was really fun. I was like, oh crap,
should I have him sing something? If you want to
say something?
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Yeah you use that, Yeah, yeah, have a little and
yeah absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Actually no, let's go back. Okay you wrote the song
and saying with Tip.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Oh yeah, life is better, life is better?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yes, you know I actually didn't know that right until recently.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Until recently.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Yeah, yeah, so q Tip was working on his album
The Renaissance, and I was there in the studio a
lot doing some of the joints and blah, blah blah.
And then I was like sitting there trying out something,
trying not to key. I might've been getting sound something,
and I started playing the what became Life Is Better.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
He was like what's that? And I was like, I
don't know. Just He's like, keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
So then we kind of cultivated and made it the thing,
and I had to leave town the next morning and
we were sitting me and him were sitting around.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
He was like, oh, what should we deal with this?
And I was like, you should be like a singer
to sing a hook on it. And I was like,
Norah Jones.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You said it.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
I said it.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Oh thank you, I said.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
I was like, I can hear Noura on this. That
would be dope.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
He's like, ah yeah, nahahs So he's like, oh yeah,
that'd be dope. And then I got on the plane
and I think I went on tour or something.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, you weren't there.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
I wasn't there. Then he hit me like yeah, no,
I came through and killed it, and I was like, oh, absolutely, absolutely,
that's such a dope joint.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
He's done. It's so cool man, so good. It's really
dope joint.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
It's funny because I went in and I hadn't met
him before.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Oh really no, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
And I was excited. I was a little nervous, but
also I was kind of in those days. I was
super oblivious, like I was almost too oblivious to be
nervous a lot. And he had me sing this part
and he's like that fel but it was kind of
high for me. And I remember I said to him,
was like, it's a little high. I don't know, Kenna.
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He's like, no, it sounds great, just do it. It
was a really good lesson and don't don't pretend like
you can't do something until you go for it. Actually,
and it kind of made me learn that I could
sing Hi. It's weird.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
He made me play organ on not that song, but
the U song. I don't play organ. I'm not an
organ player. That's a different instrument. It is a whole different.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
My husband's a good organ player. He learned playing in
a church.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
There you go exactly. I learned playing at church. But
it was a broke organ, a cheap, small one, so
it's not even the real one.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
It didn't take.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
It didn't take at all.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Yeah, So that song you is the first recording of
me playing an organ on any record. Oh cool, on
a real record, you know. And I told him I
didn't want to. I said, I know organists. Let me
let me call my boy I know, I know Cory Henry.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Let me call him. You know, yeah, I know guys
that are great. You know. He was like, Noah, you
can do it. Just just do it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Exactly what happened to me.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
That's why I brought it up, because I was like,
he made me. He literally was like, you could do it,
just do it. You can play orgon just play it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
That's why he's such a great producer.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Exactly exactly he saw what he saw our limitations, what
we thought were limitations.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Yeah, no, it's not a limitation.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But that's the best.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
So I was like, okay, so I played organ in
that song. I was like, Oh, I did do it.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
That is so cool. I want to do this cutube song?
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Sure? What?
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Hey? What?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
What what are these chords?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Because I know, I just I had to relearn them today.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, because I actually I've always been like.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
What is this because that happens to me. I'm so
much like that. I do sound checks or something and
they'll be like what's that? And I'm like, I don't know, yeah,
and they'll recorded and loop it and I never play
it again.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Then I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
But it's so nice. Your hands just go to a shape.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Yeah, so I think the vibe is more like.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
So, I think it's like G major B minor passing
chord to C major to C sharp minor nine mm hmm. Yeah,
That's what I'm getting with the vibe is.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
But it's it's fluid.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Days, food great, but now comes in.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
These fun.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Hip hop is.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Flat again and it's burying.
Speaker 12 (33:06):
I'm gonna bang it for you.
Speaker 13 (33:12):
Don't stop this feeling a fit. I just want to
around all day and feel the breeze will still my needs.
I'm so into a rich history me tell me stories
and take.
Speaker 12 (33:29):
Me away, Come and take me, Come and take me
with you. Life fits better now that now that I funny.
That feels better now that now that I found life.
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It's better now that now that I found you. Life
things better now now that I found you. Life its
better now there now that I found you, life is
better now that now that I found you, life is better.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Life is bitter.
Speaker 10 (34:19):
Live is betterf you.
Speaker 13 (34:23):
Live is Beter, I feckspara.
Speaker 12 (34:30):
Now that well that I found you, I feel it's better.
Speaker 11 (34:36):
Spen you.
Speaker 12 (34:41):
Now that I found you lasts better.
Speaker 9 (34:52):
Who who.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Oh, Yeah, I love that song.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
It's a good song.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
It's a great song.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
And his verses are they're great.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
It's so it's so relevant because it's now, it's the
fiftieth a University of hip Hop too.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, it was funny watching the other night at the
Grammys watching.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
That whole thing. Amazing, it was awesome.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
It was amazing, And and Q Tip shouted out a
lot of those guys that are on the stage. She
shouted out so many rappers in that song.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I kept waiting for him to come out, right, Yeah,
I was hoping to be there, but yeah, he does
that song is like, I love all of that that
he he did that.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Absolutely, it's really thoughtful and it is you have to really,
you know, take your time and really figure that out
because the history of hip hop is a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yeah, and you can't leave out this person. You can
have that person without this person, you can have that.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But you know, yeah, it's tricky. It's a slippery slip.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, that's so funny. I haven't played
that song since it recorded.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Me neither me neither. I never got to play it
with him do.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
A video too.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
We did a video, right, Actually, that's one of my
favorite videos.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
I've ever done.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I remember I got there and I think I was
really uptight with the director, and I think it was
kind of not I wasn't like a bitch, but I
think I was just like nervous and tight, and I
was worried about how I looked, and I didn't know
that they were going to blow it out like that
and it looks so cool, like my makeup didn't matter
because they made it black and white.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
And yeah, way yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
And he was late and I was like where is he? Yeah,
and then we had so much fun. We shot it
in like twenty minutes. Really yeah, it was like very quick.
So yeah, but we never got to sing it together.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
I did a video for a song called getting Up
on that same album. Oh yeah, but that's why I
took my eye eyebrow ring out. I had an eyebrow
ring And when you watch the getting Up video, I'm
the first thing you see, like it comes on is
my face right here and it pans out and I'm
playing piano. But it was like a time period kind
of vibed to my eyebrow ring. They didn't like, they
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didn't fit the vibe. They told me to take it out.
I couldn't put it back in.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
After its you could never get it back in.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
I could never get it back in.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
So ower basically, I'm kind.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Of glad because you know, I had it too long.
I shouldn't need to be out anywhere.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
It was a little dated as it was.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
It was exactly for sure, you had.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Long hair, then you had long drugs.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
You have dreads. Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
When I did, I played her Tatum in this Aretha
Franklin documentary. Cool, that's the geographics genius. Okay, they just
stay on different artists and then went for the Franklin.
So this is one cint the revo did. She played
Aretha and I played art Tatum. Guess what couldn't put
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it back in?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So therefore I have no.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Earrings and now you don't have all that You don't
need all that stuff to be cool. Yeah, you just
need pants.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
That's yeah. I need to at least try on what
I'm gonna wear before.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Before you do it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
So funny, Like I literally was walking around holding up
my pants.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Is that the it was that the first time you'd
play with him, or you've done a bunch of stuff
with him.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
No, I've been going over to cut TIB's house since
before that record came out, for like seven years, because
he loves to He just loves creating. So I would
go over there and replay samples for stuff that he's producing,
like replay the actual samples from the records, and they
would come up with new stuff, and you know, I've
been on tour with them a few times and stuff
like you know what I mean. So that that's been
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my guy I've been. I've been dealing with Tips since probably.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Like ninety nine because oh wow.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
He knew Blao and then because of BALaw, I was
always around him with Blaw you know what I mean.
And then he then me and him got cool because
of that situation. Okay, blow was my intro.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
He's your gateway.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
He's my gateway to that whole like neo soul movement
that happened in like ninety seven. That he was my
gateway because he was a part of that whole thing
and everybody needed. Everybody wanted to be allowed to sink
on stuff. And yeah, he's from Philadelphia. He's so cool,
and he's so cool and dope. And I was the
friend that was always we were best friends, like we
were always together.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Yeah, And so that's kind of how I everybody knew
who I was.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I was wondering, actually, I was like, how did you
end up from jazz camp to the new School And
that's still not a gateway to this whole community.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah, but it was that it.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
Was I moved to New York during the neo so
moving the roots, We're doing all these jam sessions in
New York. Yeah, they had these legendary jam sessions every
week in New York. And there was a legendary jam
session and Philly at the spot called the Black Lily,
which literally where the neo soul movement pretty much was
Births Club, and they would do something like I think
every Tuesday, and that's where like allows you to take
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me on the but we took a Greayhound bus to Philly.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Oh my god, that jam session, because.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
That's that's when I saw Jazz myself and she was
like the fourteen really in the club. Wow, I saw
Jazzmine and then quest Love and James Poyser, James, James, James.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
My guy is he also know he's from Philly.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Yeah, Philly.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
He's a big He's a backbone to that whole James Poyser,
like the backbone to that whole neo soul movement.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, I didn't realize how much he produced and.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Produced and you know, his style of playing.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
I copped a lot from James's playing, you know what
I mean, A lot of people don't even realize that.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
But he too.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
He played on one of my records.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
And yeah, he came with a style that didn't precede him.
Like no one plays like James, you know, and now
they do. But he has a certain style that just
it was his own and every you kind of have
to play like that to play this genre. That that's
that's that's sort that sole genre. You to play like
James to make it work. And so that became a
part of my style. But I was trying to show
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me how to do it, and he was like, you
you got to play like this, but it's not that,
but it's this, And I was like, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Can you show me what you're talking about show me James,
I think I know.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
But there's a song that Blouded called Sometimes and it's
like a it's like a.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
Some too.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (41:25):
It's that.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Yeah, that that little yeah, those things. Yeah, those things.
I also copy it, yeah exactly, but in a way,
in a way, because you hear those things, you also
hear that kind of twang in country music.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, but it's not quite the same. It's a different
wilt exactly. Got like a different accent, it's.
Speaker 6 (41:51):
A different accent, different vibe on the different yeah exactly.
But James has he cultivated that thing, and it's like
that's the thing behind so many of our other great songs.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Of that time.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Yeah, shout at the poison.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
James great songwriter too. Like I said, he wrote this
song sometimes for Loud. I mean, he wrote so many
great songs. I didn't funny story I was when I
met you. When I was playing with the Roots of
Radio City, we rehearsed the song called the Other Side
of the Game. That's what's called Other Side of the Game,
so Erica. But song James is late coming to the rehearsal,
so we're in the middle of playing that song, and
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when he walked in, I was like, oh, the changes
are He was like, oh, I think I think I
know it because I wrote it.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I was like, that was my that was my ship.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Absolutely, yeah, but he's so quiet.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Did he play with her in the beginning.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
Yeah, I think he did shows and stuff. She's always
heard a band from Dallas.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Which who I know to high school with.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
She always had those guys.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
But there are times obviously when she comes and plays
with the Roots or whatever that that James is playing
with that but she already said she's always had those guys.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yea are see Brandon Jones.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
You know Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Daniel Jones was my freshman buddy when I was a senior.
They put us together and he was like, he's doing
great ranges, like you know, justin Timberlake shows and and
that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
Janet Jackson's director right now.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I didn't know that, like puts.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Together amazing shows like just Arrange Manson.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah. But yeah, Daniel, Corey, Lacy, Sean Martin, se Sean,
I mean I.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Just talked to Sean yesterday. Yeah, that's my guy.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Just these guys were huge, But yeah, I love his
drums and his sister Rachelle. So they were huge influences
on me because they were all like a year year
or two older. And I mean I feel like I
absorbed all that in high.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
School for them, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
This whole other thing.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
I had this we had a rivalry because but then
you even know what anybody looked like. I couldn't hear
anybody really play. Yeah, there was no internet.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, so that's true.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
All we knew was who won an all stage.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Jazz band exactly?
Speaker 8 (44:02):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (44:03):
Yeah, one year I won the piano chair for the
all stage Jazz band, and then we had I g
E remember, oh.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
My god, I went. Yeah, it was crazy and you
got to meet everybody.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
I got to meet everybody. But they came looking for me,
like who the hell?
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Who's Robert class class?
Speaker 6 (44:19):
That's still trending right now. So they all came to
my show with my high.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
School your high school band played.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
High school band played. I had a solo on this
on like so what and I played. Then after that
I met them and they were all cool, and then
we had the jam session. I sst to have pictures
of our jam session. We made a jam one of
the rooms and Sean Spudd, Brayln Daniel. I brought Daniel Perez.
I'm in high school. Were to have a jam session?
You want to jam with us?
Speaker 5 (44:48):
He was like, let school, bro, Oh my god, that's
what Daniel is.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
My guy's amazing. I just two the Grammys just now.
He was, Yeah, I love him, he's my guy.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
So it was like those those times of I ge
and getting together and seeing all the students that you
can't Yeah, there was no internet, so you didn't couldn't
really do a you know, connection like that, so you
got to see everybody there.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
It was such a scene though.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
It was such a scene important and like.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
The nineties jazz was so exciting. It was such an
exciting time for that musically.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
Kennygarrett, Brad Mildo, Brad Mild.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
And like, I never did, I've never done anything with them.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
That just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
What's I mean?
Speaker 5 (45:25):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
He's one of my favorites.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Just the cruise with him. I got a chance to
hang out with him for the first time just now
in the Blue Mielt Jazz cruise.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Did you turn into a high school kid?
Speaker 5 (45:33):
One thousand? I got a chance to hang out with him.
Larry cool.
Speaker 6 (45:38):
Yeah, and yeah, and uh Jeff Jeff Ballot amazing. We
got a chance to really hang because I would go
to his shows, but I was in college.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah, you're not like hanging after the show.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Can you sign my my down beat mad?
Speaker 8 (45:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:53):
And brad Man he's just like he's always been a
big influence on me too.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Oh, I love him and he also loves radio.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I remember going to see Josh Redmon in Fort Worth
at the Caravan of Dreams and it was it was
supposed to be Christian mcbriene on bass, but I think
it was Chris Thomas on bass in the end and
it was Brian Blade on drums. And that was my
first time seeing Brian play. And now I play with
him and it's like.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
My dream, you know, still my dream to play with Brian.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Have you never played with Brian?
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Okay, let's make it happen.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
He's just a he's a magician. He's a makeup artist.
He is you know what I mean. He just makes
beautiful like he is.
Speaker 6 (46:36):
It's just he's so beautiful when you beautiful, and he's
groyd and just disrespectful when you need to be when
you need to be disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
He will hate it hard, yes, but he's so sensitive.
But I felt like that watching Chris Daves. I felt
like every time he touches anything, it is it is
like it's it's purposeful and it's there's something like magical
about it. Absolutely, and they're so different, you know, but like, yeah,
I feel like that watching him. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, this
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is my dream.
Speaker 6 (47:07):
When I watched Brian, I love how he looks surprised.
He looks surprised at things that are on the drums
for me, but he'll be.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
Playing, he'll be playing. If he'll look at a symbol,
he'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, did you not know
that to somebody like bring it? You didn't know? Because
he like he's still like a kid playing like he's so.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Well, he's so reactive to everything in the moment, Like
he's more in the moment than anyone I've ever.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
I feel ever played with. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, yeah, he's so like he's like, yeah, I know
this song I'm playing, Oh.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
I'm gonna go over here.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, but it always it's never like ye weird. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
His Fellowship Band Top five concepts I've ever seen in
my life. I saw him play at the vanguard years
and years and they were still doing anything.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
And it just puts me to tears, you know, like
it's very moving, super moving.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
It's also very like soulful and like everything he does
is with a big heart intention.
Speaker 6 (47:57):
I wrote this tune off of there's a tune called
Cricket Creek on his album is the very first record
Role and actually what you gonna wrote it?
Speaker 1 (48:06):
John John?
Speaker 6 (48:07):
Yeah, beautiful John. I love John Yeah, beautiful play. And
I wrote a song. I listened to Cricket Creek so
much that summer. I wrote a song off like Move
on my very first album. It's a song called Mood.
Speaker 5 (48:20):
What a Mother?
Speaker 8 (48:33):
That's pretty.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
And I literally I wrote that song because of Cricket Caek.
That's the very first tune I wrote on on the
for for an album, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Like, yeah, oh, we're gonna have a lot of tags
on this podcast, all our favorite people.
Speaker 6 (49:01):
Absolutely, absolutely, But it's important because you don't get a
chance to really tell the story of you know, who
helped you get here, where you came from. Just it
could be one song from one person that meant so much,
that is a part of your life and part of
your whole thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
All my friends from high school absolutely one more Shelton Summons, Yeah,
Charles Mcampbell.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (49:24):
Yeah yeah, I had Kendrick Scott, I had Wattersmith.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
And so they were at camp too, though. Mackenzie Mackenzie
mcken and I went to college with Mackenzie.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
Gotcha, yep, yep, that's my guy.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah. Man, it's like it's that family.
Speaker 6 (49:41):
Absolutely so good that you know, those performing ours high
schools really shape you. They really don't realize in the moment,
but it's like, yeah, they really really shape you.
Speaker 7 (50:09):
A shop.
Speaker 10 (50:59):
Shoot ship for sh.
Speaker 7 (51:31):
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Speaker 4 (51:39):
Shay.
Speaker 7 (53:30):
This a.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Hm. Yes, there's nothing like those and those black.
Speaker 8 (54:45):
That's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
Oh that was fun.
Speaker 5 (54:47):
About Oh that was so fun, so fun.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
It's amazing. I don't think we announced that last song
we played, but that was Florette Afrikaan by Do Callington.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yes, and if you're wondering what the other two songs
in this episode were, the first one was Reckner, a
radio Head cover.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yes that he's recorded before, and the second song was
Life Is Better, which is a song he wrote with
Q Tip that I sang on the album version. Yeah, yeah,
that was such a fun episode.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
So fun, you guys, I mean it really just connecting
on all those different people that you have in commons
so fun.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
That was really special actually, and just hearing him talk
about people who made him who he is, it's really beautiful.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Yeah, he's definitely so appreciative of every person that inspired
him along the way.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
He's such a giving person. Yeah, it's rad and we
have part two coming up, so be sure to tune
in for the rest, which is equally special. Yes, yeah,
thank you so much for listening.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
This episode was recorded at Sunset Sound in Los Angeles, California,
by Clint Whelander, assisted by Zach Zaidel, edited by Sarah Oda,
mixed by Jamie Landry. Additional engineering by Pete Hanlon and
Matthew Vasquez. Artwork by Eliza Fry, Photography by Shervin Linez.
Produced by Me and Myoda. Thanks for listening. Don't forget
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