April 17, 2025 • 37 mins
What does it mean to translate neurological perception into photographic art? Landscape photographer Jared Armijo takes us deep into his creative world where synesthesia—a condition where senses cross-connect—shapes the surreal, minimalist landscapes that have become his signature style.
Jared's artistic journey began in a family of painters where he emerged as the photographic outlier. His high school photography teacher spotted his innate talent for composition and color, giving him unprecedented access to experimental techniques from liquid light to oil painting on photographs. These early experiences formed the foundation for his desolate, otherworldly landscapes that communicate emotional narratives through peculiar color palettes.
Most fascinating is Jared's revelation about discovering childhood drawings that unconsciously expressed his synesthesia—amorphous shapes filled with careful gradients—created long before he understood his unique neurological wiring. This same perceptual gift now informs his distinctive photography, allowing viewers a glimpse into how he experiences the world.
Beyond aesthetics, our conversation explores Jared's practical approach to creative sustainability. His work in medical imaging, particularly during the pandemic and in a cancer hospital, has profoundly influenced his perspective on mortality, feeding directly into his ambitious new project "Death Is," which will blend Southwestern influences with themes of impermanence. We also discuss his candid feelings of displacement and considerations about life outside the United States, reflecting the restless spirit that animates much of his work.
Whether you're interested in experimental photography, the neuroscience of perception, or navigating the volatile world of NFTs (where Jared offers invaluable advice to newcomers), this episode offers unexpected insights from an artist whose work bridges inner experience and outer reality. How might we each translate our unique perceptions into meaningful expression? Listen and be inspired to see—and create—differently.
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NorCal Guy (00:01):
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Jared Armijo (00:08):
NorCal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy,
norcal guy, norcal guy, norcalguy, norcal guy, norcal and
chill podcast Show.
NorCal Guy (00:19):
It's chill time, norcal and chill podcast.
What the fuck?
What the chill, norcal andShill.
Today we have Jared Armio.
(00:41):
We have Jared Armio.
Jared is a landscapephotographer who uses
synesthesia, minimalism andsurrealism to express his life's
journey.
Otherworldly, desolate andsurreal scenes with peculiar
colors and stories.
Be human, be kind, everybody.
(01:03):
Please welcome Jared, hey,jared, hey, welcome to the
podcast.
How are you doing today?
Jared Armijo (01:09):
I'm good.
How are you?
NorCal Guy (01:11):
I'm good.
I'm good man.
The day is nice here.
It was supposed to be cloudy,but it's sunny out and loving it
.
Got to go on a bike ride withmy son this morning.
Threw him in a bike trailer,took him to a coffee shop.
We had some quiche and a muffin.
Jared Armijo (01:30):
No biscuits, no biscuits.
NorCal Guy (01:34):
We had also a breakfast burrito thing and he
had a muffin as well Burritothing.
Jared Armijo (01:46):
You're like I don't know, I don't know if it
was, but it was a thing and itwas kind of a burrito, but I
don't know.
NorCal Guy (01:54):
Like, so, okay, I'll just say what it is okay.
When I think breakfast burrito,I think it's gonna be Mexican
somehow, because burritoobviously and this was like I
think it's going to be Mexicansomehow.
That's fair Burrito obviously,and this was like curry seasoned
tofu in there, and so ittricked me.
Jared Armijo (02:17):
Obviously Burrito thing.
NorCal Guy (02:23):
So I went with the vegan one and I was like alright
, Maybe they made the vegan oneand I was like all right maybe
they made the wrong one becauseit's supposed to have jalapenos
in it too.
Jared Armijo (02:30):
Now that I'm thinking about it, because I
asked them I was like is?
NorCal Guy (02:33):
this spicy because I'm going to give this to my son
, and they're like no, it's notspicy at all and I'm like wait,
I don't remember any jalapenosin there.
Maybe they gave me the wrongone, maybe that's it but it
threw me off.
It sounds like it buddy maybe,maybe, now that I think about it
, I mean, you know, whatever Imean as a dad, you're just
(02:55):
basically like hey, what soundsgood to you, kid yeah like here.
I got you multiple options eatsome of all of them, please.
And I'll finish up and clean upcrew.
And here's some apple juiceCause.
Thank goodness they havesomething else here and I got
myself coffee.
Jared Armijo (03:14):
How are you supposed to do it?
Get a burrito thing.
Get a burrito thing for sure.
The next order Hide someritothing for sure the next order.
NorCal Guy (03:26):
I stopped and said hi to some horses on the way
home.
That was it Nice, what a greatmorning With your burrito coming
Tricky.
They're tricky man.
Call it a wrap.
Call it a wrap, that soundsbetter than a burrito for your
situation you seem veryperplexed by it, right I know
(03:52):
you can't.
You gotta call it a wrap.
If it's not mexican flavors,you gotta call it a wrap, sorry
I'm sorry unless you're callingit some sort of fusion.
That's fair If you say fusion.
Jared Armijo (04:05):
I'm like okay, I know it's not Mexican burrito,
like this is something else,right, right, Okay, that's fair
Right.
NorCal Guy (04:12):
Right, I mean etiquette.
Jared Armijo (04:14):
Etiquette.
I want you to go to him nexttime and be like.
I need you to have moreetiquette and do not serve me a
burrito thing.
I want a burrito thing I want aburrito.
This is not named.
A lot of burritos thing.
NorCal Guy (04:29):
Thank you right it's not get, get it, get the facts
correct this is not correct, youguys are clearly wrong, it's in
(04:58):
a tortilla.
We'll just call it a burritoit's a wrap, sir oh man, so do
you have and use a hardwarewallet uh, yeah, I mean, that's
the first thing I got.
Jared Armijo (05:19):
You know like people are like no, you need to
buy this, buy this, but don'tbuy it from amazon, don't buy it
from some weird site, buy itfrom like, buy it from this site
, this specific site.
NorCal Guy (05:31):
And I was like why you don't want right why, why,
why does it matter that muchcheaper?
They're like it's good you want.
Jared Armijo (05:41):
They're like it's for a reason to get dummies like
you, true?
you want the, the ledger, notthe ledger thing, ledger thing,
don't do the ledger thing, do aledger.
It's important, though, man.
I mean, how many times have weseen like people get fucked, get
(06:04):
wrecked and it's just like fromthat, or they click a damn link
and do not click a damn link,that person you don't trust.
There's so many scams out there, especially in this Web3 world
compared to Web2, uh, where Icame from when I first started,
(06:25):
you know, um, it's just way moreyou need to look out for here
than I would say web 2.
Like web 2, like there's somescams and stupid shit, you know,
but like these people are, likethey're really good like I
remember I was like you guys areassholes.
(06:46):
I got a threat one time becauseI minted some pieces on Super.
I don't even remember what itwas.
Oh, no, yeah, it was from myseries Resurrection, which was
like a music slash photo kind ofmontage thing I made with one
of my friends, my friends but assoon as I mentioned it, you got
(07:07):
one.
Actually I was like what am Ithinking um?
But yeah, I got an email thatnext morning saying like you're
copyright infringing, bubble,all this like very detailed
thing, like very detailed.
I was like and I this is myfirst time I've collaborated
with an artist, so I was likefuck, did he like steal this
(07:28):
music and not make it his own?
You know, like I'm like justthinking all these like crazy
things I'm like.
These photos are mine.
Asshole like I did these fromlike way long ago, like I did
not fuck it up and so.
So I was just like thinking.
I was thinking I was like, well, shit, how do I approach this,
my other artist, my friend?
(07:49):
Like I don't want to sound likeI'm, you know, like accusing
him and this is my firstcollaboration ever, and so I was
like uh, and so like I talkedto him, I was like how'd you
make this?
You know, like these littlethings, and he's, he totally
made up.
I was just being like I was justbeing stupid about it, but like
it was very yeah, very likeconvincing because like I've
(08:13):
seen these kind of like thiskind of format before, um, from
my other friends who've got likeaccused of plagiarizing or
something of the sort way wayback when.
So I was like shit, thislanguage and everything is very
like on point and so it freakedme out.
I was like, oh shit, I'm gonnaburn all of them right now like
(08:35):
that was my first I was like I'mburning all these, like there's
like 12 or 14 I'm like damn it.
So yeah, no, the answer to yourquestion yes, I use the ledger,
I was like damn it.
So yeah, oh no, to answer yourquestion yes, I use a ledger To
wrap it back all the way backthere.
NorCal Guy (08:53):
There you guys go Love it.
Perfect, that is the answer.
What were your?
Jared Armijo (09:04):
first thoughts when you heard about NFTs.
You know, uh, I heard I started.
I started browsing the space, Ithink like in march of 2021,
like february, I like kind of.
Like I heard the word nft and Iwas like I don't care and like
that was my thought process, Idon't care.
(09:25):
But then, like it kept poppingup a little bit more and like
photographers back then it wasreally weird.
It was a really weird momentfor landscape photography,
specifically Because oneEthereum was causing so much
pollution and people were like,well, you can't do that.
(09:46):
Right, this is way back, youcan't do that because you're
ruining the Earth and itcompletely split, like the
landscape community, likethere's some people that still
went, did it?
Some people are like no f you,I hate all of you, you're dead
to me sort of deal.
It was really crazy, like I waslike whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
So it got me more interestedanyway, because it was so
(10:06):
polarizing and so and I, I lovethat kind of shit.
Like I told him, like why is?
it so polarizing, like let'slook into that, you know, and I
did, and I was like oh wow,whether he's way more than just
crypt, like this crypto and mtspace.
It's like it's a whole bigthing, a big world.
(10:28):
A lot of people are, you know,anon, which is cool because,
like I, I came from like playinga lot of video games with just
landmass people around the worldfor like oh yeah, yeah, so to
me, I'm like it didn't make abig deal, I'm like I don't care,
like this is cool, like I cantalk to anyone here.
Um, right, so I don't know, itjust got me more interested as
soon as I saw more landscapephotographers some I knew, some
(10:49):
I don't know.
It just got me more interestedas soon as I saw more landscape
photographers Some I knew, someI didn't know as well, but still
joined in.
So I did join in.
I decided to like try to, butat that time you needed like an
invite to Foundation and like Ihad no friends In the space, in
the space, in this space, inthis space, and so and I'm not
(11:14):
the type of person straight uplike I'm not gonna go like talk
to random people without like ifthere's like a common interest
here, like video games orsomething like.
Sure, I don't give a shit, youknow, but like I didn't really
understand what they or I had noidea about any of these things.
So it's just so overwhelmingand I'm like, well, I don't want
to bug everyone like I'm sofucking stupid with it.
I ended up actually buggingsome people like Ben Scar.
(11:36):
I was like, hey, I don't get it.
What is this?
What's going on here?
He briefly explained.
He's like here, I'll introduceyou to this space.
I'm like, oh shit, you're goingto get me on this space.
I was like I never really spokebefore.
You know, like I've doneinterviews before in web 2, but
like this is different because,like these are just all people I
(11:58):
don't know and I'm like lookingat all these names and shit you
know, and I'm just like I'mlike I don't know, I think I'm
okay.
And then I was like, all right,fucking, I'll do it anyway,
because I was just like bored, Iguess, and so I almost quit in
the beginning, though, to bequite frank, because he needed
(12:21):
an invite to foundation and Ididn't have any friends, like I
said, and I know it's funny, Idid it at the time.
So I was like, uh, well, fuck melike I can't do anything here,
like because that was like theonly option, or super it, and I
applied to known origin.
(12:42):
I got into known origin likeway, but like months later, and
then foundational system.
My only super error was likeyou had to get accepted at the
time.
I mean, you still do like itwas way harder back then.
I feel so thankfully Ruben Wuactually gave me an invite.
Other than that I would havenever, I would have quit because
(13:03):
I had no one else in the space,like I didn't have any friends
there or in the space and anyoneI try to talk to like friend
wise, like outside of uh or inweb two about entities.
It wasn't good, like like somepeople are.
NorCal Guy (13:17):
Like I can't believe you're doing that.
Jared Armijo (13:19):
And then, and then I had others that were kind of
interested but they're like,well, I don't know.
And like then, Terry, I waslike terry, just come, like do
this with me, because like I waslike I need people, I was like
I need help and like I don'tknow.
(13:47):
And then you know that's how Igot into it really.
So if it wasn't for ruben'sinvite, because I was like I
can't get into anything and Idon't know, and then you know,
that's how I got into it really.
So if it wasn't for Ruben'sinvite, cause I was like I can't
get into anything and I don'tknow anyone here, I don't give a
shit Like I can't do anything,I don't know what to do and I'm
not at the time I wasn'tcomfortable enough to like reach
out to all these randomstrangers like about something I
just had no idea about.
Like you know, crypto on itselfis a huge big thing.
(14:10):
So I had to learn that.
What NFT was, what is minting,what is you know gas costs, what
is this, what is that?
And it's just like what's a PFP, you know?
Like it's stupid shit like that.
And trying to understand thelingo, it was like overwhelming,
and so I was just like allright it.
Like I think I'm just not gonnaparticipate if I don't somehow
(14:31):
gonna invite within like twoweeks.
I don't know, like I'm justgonna go peace but it worked out
.
So, like here, I am talking toyou now like yeah later, right.
So yeah, that's how I got intoit.
(14:51):
It's a good.
It's a good story it's a goodstory.
NorCal Guy (14:57):
Why?
Why did you choose art and whatbrought, or what brought, you
to photography?
Jared Armijo (15:03):
you know, I've always been creative, even since
I was a kid.
Like I mean, like my wholefamily is creative as hell, like
they are, like they're painters.
No one else does photographybut me.
I'm like the outlier, I'll say,but they all paint and do like
all other cool shit.
Like it's kind of amazing whatthey can do.
(15:24):
Um, and so for me personally, Ithink I was just born to be an
artist.
I mean, I've always been supercreative and then, with my
synesthesia, even when I was akid, it would inspire me to be
more artistic and express itwithout knowing I was actually
expressing my synesthesia.
(15:44):
It's like I found drawings whenI went to my parents' house
from when I was four or fiveyears old, and these drawings
and the reason why I'mexplaining it is because these
drawings were like they're justshapes, and so I would scribble
(16:08):
on paper all kinds of differentfunky, amorphous shapes and then
I would color them in and itwas weird.
I was like why the fuck?
My parents were like, why doyou do that?
And I'm like I would never knowas a kid.
I'm like I don't know.
I think it's pretty.
And I would just keep on andthen do the shapes and color
them in really nicely, like Iwould do, like gradients and
stuff.
I'm like I mean, it was prettycool to see how I understood
(16:28):
color back then to what Iunderstand color now.
And so for me, I think I wasborn to be artistic.
Whether it be a photographer, apainter, whatever the hell I'm
going to do, I'm born to beartistic and probably an artist
overall.
So that's just who I am.
(16:48):
But I started photo in highschool.
Um, one of my photo teachers,barb davis, uh, she really saw
that I had an eye for shape andthen she just kept pushing me to
do more.
She would give me all thesupplies I wanted.
Like literally I've tried allkinds of weird processes because
(17:09):
she had money to spend but shewouldn't spend it on all the
kids because she thought they'rejust wasting her shit.
And she said that she didn'treally say that and he's like no
, they're just wasting that shit.
So what do you want?
NorCal Guy (17:23):
and so true because kids, you know, there's people
we're gonna focus our resourceson the uh prime candidate that's
basically what she said,without, like she definitely did
say it, and so she.
Jared Armijo (17:37):
Because you're like they're wasting my time,
like it's good, what do you wantto do?
And she was real honest, I'mstill good friends with her.
Now you know um that's awesomebut she was like, let me do
whatever.
Like she gave me liquid lightto paint on the objects to paint
my photographs on, she wouldlet me oil paint my photographs
(17:58):
like on film.
Um, you know, van dyke, uh,dude, cyan types, I mean
literally like anything I wantedto do.
If I saw like I had somewhat ofinterest, she's like all right,
I'll buy it.
And she looked and give it tome.
Um, but with school, you knowthe school's resources, not her
own right right right and Idon't know.
(18:20):
Ever since then I've been doingit, you know that's cool.
NorCal Guy (18:27):
That's cool, that's really that's awesome.
So what?
What jobs have you done alongthe way.
Jared Armijo (18:34):
Well, my main job, I'm sure.
Well, some people know, uh, butI actually work in the hospital,
um, I do medical imaging, so no, okay yeah I know, because I
was exactly and so I was like,well, how do I make a
sustainable income while helpingpeople, while providing money
(18:55):
for me to do actual photographythat I want to do produce by
anything other than my, my brain, like that is the only thing
that needs to be there, nothingelse.
Like I don't need a cell tomake a living and be okay.
(19:17):
You know, and that's kind oflike my thinking.
In the process of, like, goingto medical imaging, I originally
I was like all right, I'm gonnabe a radiologist, and then I
was oh, yeah.
Then I was like fuck that.
I was like nah, nah, I'm good,I'm good.
The lifestyle there is prettysweet at times, but the amount
(19:40):
of call you have to do and theamount of bullshit you have to
read there's so many stupidexams that I still do just from
doctor's orders I'm just likeGod, I'd be so pissed about to
(20:03):
read this.
Thank god I don't.
I don't know.
Awesome, that's basically that.
Yeah, this medical.
For the past like 11 years, Idid work at tropical smoothie.
I worked at tropical smoothie,though, in college.
Oh, and brumas, which was likea southern restaurant when I
lived in florida.
It was a mom-pop shop and ahouse make southern food nice.
So those three things don't eatthat top of the smoothie anyway
(20:29):
, by the way, it's just saltsugar and yeah, and I'm gonna
say it's awful for you.
I also don't like the job, soI'm probably biased perfect,
perfect.
NorCal Guy (20:48):
So if you were an animal, what would you be and
why?
Jared Armijo (20:53):
you know I've always been obsessed with killer
whales, since I was a kid.
It was like, I mean like freewilly and all that.
That was me.
I wish it was me in the moviemovie I love killer whales.
Uh, they're creepy, they'resmart, they're about family and
(21:16):
they are the one of the mostwell-traveled whales in the
world and I kind of admire allthose.
Like it keeps you, they keepyou on your feet, you know.
You're like they're so fuckingintelligent and creepy about how
they do things you know, know,like with hunting and everything
.
It's just like ah, I just foundit so mesmerizing.
I'm like, wow, these things areso fucking crazy.
But that would be me.
NorCal Guy (21:40):
I love it.
I love it.
Do you have a favorite food?
Jared Armijo (21:47):
I have too many favorite foods.
I eat too much.
This is why I've been going tothe gym for the past four months
.
I love a favorite food.
It's good, it's good.
I'll I'll say something.
Recently, my favorite foodoverall would probably be
something Japanese, probablysomething like sushi, just a
(22:09):
good you know sushi bowl.
But one of the best things I'vehad recently was an apple
galette with rosemary ice cream,and it was like the apple
galette had like a creme bruleekind of base, so you literally
got that nice crunch it was.
(22:30):
It was fucking insane.
And so then you pair it withthe rosemary ice cream.
I was like god damn it, likethis is like one of the best
desserts I've had, and so Iordered another one to go.
NorCal Guy (22:41):
That sounds really good oh man, all right, that
sounds good that sounds reallygood.
Jared Armijo (22:52):
It's fucking fantastic.
NorCal Guy (22:53):
I'm not gonna lie what's the best piece of advice
you have been given?
Jared Armijo (23:06):
um, um, I, my dad, was military for 22 years and
he would always say to me as akid um, don't be a sheep, um, be
a shepherd, uh, and so, um, Idon't know.
I take that a lot to heartPersonally.
(23:27):
It's just like do your ownthing and just go with it, like
who gives a fuck what otherpeople are thinking or doing, or
like saying or whatever, justdo what you want to do.
But you know, be a leader at itand like be good at it and just
keep pushing on.
So I guess for me that'sprobably one of the best advices
I've had is just be me, andbeing me has gotten me far, you
(23:51):
know.
So I was like, okay, maybe he'sright.
I wouldn't tell him that,because he's kind of a hard ass
and he knows it and I love himto death.
So he won't ever listen to this.
And if he does, I'm still notgoing to tell your dad.
You probably will ever listento this.
And if he does, I'm still notgoing to tell your dad.
You probably will actuallylisten to this awesome, awesome.
NorCal Guy (24:14):
I love it.
I love it.
Do you have any advice forartists joining the crypto art
space?
Jared Armijo (24:23):
I wish I knew a lot when I came in, but I didn't
.
Do not FOMO into everything,jesus Christ.
Do not FOMO.
This space fucks with yourfucking head so bad that you're
just like maybe I should buythis Pepe.
(24:45):
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Because I saw so-and-so do,it's like because I saw so and
so do it.
And they did it and they did it.
I think it's time for me to doit, and it's like it's like wait
, don't you have?
your own set of goals here, likewhat are you trying to do?
You know with your investmentsfor your money that you made um,
I would just say do not, fomo,do what you want to do, but be
(25:07):
smart about your moves in thisspace overall, because it is a
very different ball gamecompared to like web 2.
Like web 2 is very simple in myopinion.
I'm like I love it.
I love both spaces, but I justfeel, like.
web 2 is more like apply to this, apply, apply, apply, apply and
then something will happen,right, whereas Web3 is like you
(25:30):
have all these littleintricacies with crypto and then
a T market, and then what ifthe stock market goes down or
some bullshit?
World event happens, and nowyou're, there's a lot to it.
So I would just say do not fomoin and pay attention like to
all that is happening in theworld and in one thing, when
(25:54):
you're trying to makeinvestments and do not get
caught up in the phone.
Oh my god, I've seen so manyartists like just get burnt, you
know, on it and like they lose.
I've seen so many artists justget burnt on it.
They lose what they've madefrom their art.
I'm like, ah fuck, I feel bad.
I do because I'm just like man,I don't know.
(26:15):
That's a terrible thing to see.
It is that's why I would hopeother people coming into this
space would realize Do not filmon land.
Pay attention, know your goals,know when to sell.
Take profits like.
Take fucking profits like atthe end of the day, if you're
trying to get to a differentgoal of abc, like I want to buy
(26:38):
this or I need a new camera, oryou know I need to pay off my
mortgage or you know, whateverthat, whatever your thing is,
remember that, like, get whatyou need to do that and don't
just blah, throw it away,especially if you made it right
for sure I wish.
Someone told me that in thebeginning though right right,
(27:04):
but I've been pretty good.
I was like, really I'm like I'malways I'm very defensive with
these things, Cause I'm justlike I don't know I can't buy a
lot, Cause like I just likefreak out, Like if I do an
investment sort of thing, likeyou know, I don't know, that's
just my personality, so.
NorCal Guy (27:21):
But yeah, anyway, that's my advice, that's fair,
that's fair, that's fair, I likeit.
I like it if you could live ormove anywhere where would you
live and why?
Jared Armijo (27:34):
you know it's so funny.
When you sent me thesequestions, I literally like I
was reading through and I waslike cool, cool, nice, and then
this question came up and I wasjust like what the fuck?
And and I mean that in a goodway, and let me explain why I
said that I just finished makinga piece about feeling out of
(27:59):
place, like a photo, and I waslike cause I, you know, I just
moved here to New Mexico fromOregon.
I lived in Oregon for eightyears and I said fuck it, I want
to move.
And I moved here to New Mexicofrom Oregon.
I lived in Oregon for eightyears.
I said fuck it, I want to move.
I moved here with my partner.
Then I'm coming to realize,maybe these past two months,
that maybe I just don't belongin the USA, lived outside, well,
(28:30):
and I say that because it'sjust, you know, like you know,
we don't have universal healthcare.
I work in health care.
Like I see how fucked up thesystem is, and so it's just
these little things like that.
And it's like, is this shitever gonna change in the us?
Or like no, you know, like,what the fuck are we doing here
and so, and then it just had mequestioning like because I lived
in other countries before, likejapan and england, and I'm like
(28:51):
I know every country has theirown issue but would I be happier
with their issues than the usissues?
And then I said I probably wouldbe okay with their issues over
the us issues issues.
So the places I had in mind waslike New Zealand would be
(29:11):
pretty cool.
I could never do Canada, it'stoo cold, it's too snowy.
But I literally thought NewZealand, potentially Australia,
those would probably be one ofthe top two picks I think I'd
pick, maybe somewhere in Europe,maybe I know when you got, when
(29:32):
I got that question, I was justlike ah, what?
That's fucking weird.
Damn, this fucking, this fuckingworld right, right, all right
that's fair, that's so do youhave any questions for me?
(30:10):
Yeah, okay.
So I got asked this questionfrom a patient Okay, they're
really out of it.
And so I was just kind of like,okay, okay, so.
But he asked he's like, out ofthe seven deadly sins, which one
do you think ruins humanity?
And I was like, and this guywas very like out of it and I
was just like, so like I wasactually taken back because I
didn't think, just by looking atthe guy and this is not to be
super judgmental or anything,it's just like I didn't think,
you know, like, because you'reso out of it, like he was high
(30:31):
off of something, right, right,and I was just like, whoa,
that's a deep ass questionyou're asking right now, right,
and I am about to scan you and,uh, and I just looked, I was,
you know, let me think on it andI'll tell you what I think
after the scan, because I waslike that's a very deep question
(30:54):
and I don't mind answering it,but that is my question to you
Because it was a very crazyquestion.
NorCal Guy (31:05):
That is a crazy question and let me just read
off what those seven deadly sinsthere you go.
Okay, I had a little guy andI'm like I'm not even prepared
for this, yeah so lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy,
(31:27):
pride, and which one ruins theworld.
Jared Armijo (31:32):
The most is what he said or asked.
NorCal Guy (31:35):
I'm gonna say pride okay on my my side.
Jared Armijo (31:43):
There you go.
There we have it.
Pride is gonna end the world,according to NorCal.
So if something happens badtomorrow, y'all it's his fault.
He predicted it.
That's on him.
Oh man, frick, all right.
NorCal Guy (32:05):
Any other questions?
Jared Armijo (32:07):
No, I mean, I was like that's a really good
question.
It caught me off guard and Iwas working.
I was like yeah, I'll ask that,oh no, alright.
NorCal Guy (32:27):
Well, do you have any shout outs, any upcoming
projects you'd like to talkabout?
Jared Armijo (32:33):
for shout outs uh, to say you know, terry, of
course, because she is literallylike my rock.
I I call her she's like myearth because I like I am very
like airy and kind of out theresometimes, like out in the sky,
just very airy kind of element.
She's more of a grounding andso it's so funny because we're
(32:57):
opposites on a lot of thingslike that, but we're like she's
like my best friend.
So I would definitely say her,I would say TJ Thorne, I love TJ
.
I just got his book, which isfucking amazing.
God, it's fucking good and likeI've seen, I know TJ's work
(33:18):
right and I'm like, yeah, okay,I want the book, yeah, but I'm
like looking through it lastnight and I was so blown away by
it I was just like holy shit,like this is insane.
These water photographs arejust fucking nuts.
So, tj, uh, zach, joelle, Ilove joelle.
(33:40):
I I got to meet her twice andhang out with her.
She came to my sister's housein the mexico actually, like ran
away randomly ran away and shelike, yeah, I'm in new mexico.
I was like what the fuck?
And uh, kath, kath samard ispretty, she's pretty fucking
awesome.
So those are my shout outs, Ithink, um, any project I'm
(34:04):
working on I'm starting aproject called death is, and
it's based off of southwesternkind of theme.
Uh, since I worked during thepandemic, I saw a lot more death
uh in my job and it just, youknow, it just makes you question
so much more, and I was acancer hospital I worked at as
(34:24):
well.
So it was just a really badcombo, be stuck in the fucking
pandemic.
Like I know it's like darkhumor, funny and it is now.
It is now, and like I cantotally laugh at it because it's
just like that's the shit luckI get.
Dude, that's the shit stuffthat happens to me and I'm just
(34:45):
like I'm.
It's just so funny Cause likeme and Terry talking about the
like one like a while ago andshe's like I have a great life,
that's what.
NorCal Guy (34:55):
Terry says she's like.
Jared Armijo (34:58):
I haven't had really any bad things happen
like you've had, and I'm like Iknow you don't need to tell me,
terry, I'm living it, thank you.
But yeah, the project is goingto be it's called Death Is, and
it's going to be a littledifferent for me.
(35:19):
It's going to take me probablya year or two to actually do oh
wow, um, oh wow.
Basically it's like I'm gonnamake some sort of like, uh, kind
of like a grim reaper, but notmore.
Um, how do you explain like abit more southwestern kind of
george o'keefe twist with it?
(35:39):
Um, and it's got me all thesedifferent, different examples of
what death is to me and whatI've seen through you know, my
past years, but in differentlandscapes and whatnot.
So it'll be a very differentkind of portrait work.
But yeah, that's, it Soundsgood.
NorCal Guy (36:01):
Nice, I look forward to it.
Man, that'd be good.
Yeah, oh, have a good, yeah, ohoh man, I'm just messing around
oh man awesome well, jared.
(36:22):
Yes, thank you for your timetoday for this interview.
I really enjoyed it.
There's a lot of laughs, it'sreally good, I laugh a lot.
Jared Armijo (36:32):
I've been told that like I've been told I can
say whatever to someone becauseI laugh, and like I can get away
with it because I laugh, andwhere I laugh at them, to them
because they're like your laughis so contagious that you can
literally call me a fuckingidiot and I'll probably laugh at
it and I'm like I try not to doit, but I've been guilty of it,
(36:58):
I'm not gonna lie.
NorCal Guy (37:00):
But it's all good fun anyway, cool man.
Jared Armijo (37:04):
Well, I hope you have a great day and we'll talk
soon, cool.
NorCal Guy (37:06):
But it's all good fun, perfect, anyway, yeah, cool
man.
Well, I hope you have a greatday and we'll talk soon, cool.
Jared Armijo (37:11):
See you, bye, bye.
Who is this?
Who is?
NorCal Guy (37:16):
this guy?
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Jared Armijo (37:23):
Nor Cal guy, nor Cal guy, nor Cal guy Nor Cal guy
, nor this guy, norcal guy,norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal
guy, norcal guy, norcal guy,norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal
and chill podcast show it'schill time, norcal and chill
podcast.
NorCal Guy (37:37):
What the what the chill NorCal and chill podcast
show it's chill time, norcal andchill podcast.
What the what the?
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Jared Armijo (00:08):
NorCal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal guy,
norcal guy, norcal guy, norcalguy, norcal guy, norcal and
chill podcast Show.
NorCal Guy (00:19):
It's chill time, norcal and chill podcast.
What the fuck?
What the chill, norcal andShill.
Today we have Jared Armio.
(00:41):
We have Jared Armio.
Jared is a landscapephotographer who uses
synesthesia, minimalism andsurrealism to express his life's
journey.
Otherworldly, desolate andsurreal scenes with peculiar
colors and stories.
Be human, be kind, everybody.
(01:03):
Please welcome Jared, hey,jared, hey, welcome to the
podcast.
How are you doing today?
Jared Armijo (01:09):
I'm good.
How are you?
NorCal Guy (01:11):
I'm good.
I'm good man.
The day is nice here.
It was supposed to be cloudy,but it's sunny out and loving it
.
Got to go on a bike ride withmy son this morning.
Threw him in a bike trailer,took him to a coffee shop.
We had some quiche and a muffin.
Jared Armijo (01:30):
No biscuits, no biscuits.
NorCal Guy (01:34):
We had also a breakfast burrito thing and he
had a muffin as well Burritothing.
Jared Armijo (01:46):
You're like I don't know, I don't know if it
was, but it was a thing and itwas kind of a burrito, but I
don't know.
NorCal Guy (01:54):
Like, so, okay, I'll just say what it is okay.
When I think breakfast burrito,I think it's gonna be Mexican
somehow, because burritoobviously and this was like I
think it's going to be Mexicansomehow.
That's fair Burrito obviously,and this was like curry seasoned
tofu in there, and so ittricked me.
Jared Armijo (02:17):
Obviously Burrito thing.
NorCal Guy (02:23):
So I went with the vegan one and I was like alright
, Maybe they made the vegan oneand I was like all right maybe
they made the wrong one becauseit's supposed to have jalapenos
in it too.
Jared Armijo (02:30):
Now that I'm thinking about it, because I
asked them I was like is?
NorCal Guy (02:33):
this spicy because I'm going to give this to my son
, and they're like no, it's notspicy at all and I'm like wait,
I don't remember any jalapenosin there.
Maybe they gave me the wrongone, maybe that's it but it
threw me off.
It sounds like it buddy maybe,maybe, now that I think about it
, I mean, you know, whatever Imean as a dad, you're just
(02:55):
basically like hey, what soundsgood to you, kid yeah like here.
I got you multiple options eatsome of all of them, please.
And I'll finish up and clean upcrew.
And here's some apple juiceCause.
Thank goodness they havesomething else here and I got
myself coffee.
Jared Armijo (03:14):
How are you supposed to do it?
Get a burrito thing.
Get a burrito thing for sure.
The next order Hide someritothing for sure the next order.
NorCal Guy (03:26):
I stopped and said hi to some horses on the way
home.
That was it Nice, what a greatmorning With your burrito coming
Tricky.
They're tricky man.
Call it a wrap.
Call it a wrap, that soundsbetter than a burrito for your
situation you seem veryperplexed by it, right I know
(03:52):
you can't.
You gotta call it a wrap.
If it's not mexican flavors,you gotta call it a wrap, sorry
I'm sorry unless you're callingit some sort of fusion.
That's fair If you say fusion.
Jared Armijo (04:05):
I'm like okay, I know it's not Mexican burrito,
like this is something else,right, right, Okay, that's fair
Right.
NorCal Guy (04:12):
Right, I mean etiquette.
Jared Armijo (04:14):
Etiquette.
I want you to go to him nexttime and be like.
I need you to have moreetiquette and do not serve me a
burrito thing.
I want a burrito thing I want aburrito.
This is not named.
A lot of burritos thing.
NorCal Guy (04:29):
Thank you right it's not get, get it, get the facts
correct this is not correct, youguys are clearly wrong, it's in
(04:58):
a tortilla.
We'll just call it a burritoit's a wrap, sir oh man, so do
you have and use a hardwarewallet uh, yeah, I mean, that's
the first thing I got.
Jared Armijo (05:19):
You know like people are like no, you need to
buy this, buy this, but don'tbuy it from amazon, don't buy it
from some weird site, buy itfrom like, buy it from this site
, this specific site.
NorCal Guy (05:31):
And I was like why you don't want right why, why,
why does it matter that muchcheaper?
They're like it's good you want.
Jared Armijo (05:41):
They're like it's for a reason to get dummies like
you, true?
you want the, the ledger, notthe ledger thing, ledger thing,
don't do the ledger thing, do aledger.
It's important, though, man.
I mean, how many times have weseen like people get fucked, get
(06:04):
wrecked and it's just like fromthat, or they click a damn link
and do not click a damn link,that person you don't trust.
There's so many scams out there, especially in this Web3 world
compared to Web2, uh, where Icame from when I first started,
(06:25):
you know, um, it's just way moreyou need to look out for here
than I would say web 2.
Like web 2, like there's somescams and stupid shit, you know,
but like these people are, likethey're really good like I
remember I was like you guys areassholes.
(06:46):
I got a threat one time becauseI minted some pieces on Super.
I don't even remember what itwas.
Oh, no, yeah, it was from myseries Resurrection, which was
like a music slash photo kind ofmontage thing I made with one
of my friends, my friends but assoon as I mentioned it, you got
(07:07):
one.
Actually I was like what am Ithinking um?
But yeah, I got an email thatnext morning saying like you're
copyright infringing, bubble,all this like very detailed
thing, like very detailed.
I was like and I this is myfirst time I've collaborated
with an artist, so I was likefuck, did he like steal this
(07:28):
music and not make it his own?
You know, like I'm like justthinking all these like crazy
things I'm like.
These photos are mine.
Asshole like I did these fromlike way long ago, like I did
not fuck it up and so.
So I was just like thinking.
I was thinking I was like, well, shit, how do I approach this,
my other artist, my friend?
(07:49):
Like I don't want to sound likeI'm, you know, like accusing
him and this is my firstcollaboration ever, and so I was
like uh, and so like I talkedto him, I was like how'd you
make this?
You know, like these littlethings, and he's, he totally
made up.
I was just being like I was justbeing stupid about it, but like
it was very yeah, very likeconvincing because like I've
(08:13):
seen these kind of like thiskind of format before, um, from
my other friends who've got likeaccused of plagiarizing or
something of the sort way wayback when.
So I was like shit, thislanguage and everything is very
like on point and so it freakedme out.
I was like, oh shit, I'm gonnaburn all of them right now like
(08:35):
that was my first I was like I'mburning all these, like there's
like 12 or 14 I'm like damn it.
So yeah, no, the answer to yourquestion yes, I use the ledger,
I was like damn it.
So yeah, oh no, to answer yourquestion yes, I use a ledger To
wrap it back all the way backthere.
NorCal Guy (08:53):
There you guys go Love it.
Perfect, that is the answer.
What were your?
Jared Armijo (09:04):
first thoughts when you heard about NFTs.
You know, uh, I heard I started.
I started browsing the space, Ithink like in march of 2021,
like february, I like kind of.
Like I heard the word nft and Iwas like I don't care and like
that was my thought process, Idon't care.
(09:25):
But then, like it kept poppingup a little bit more and like
photographers back then it wasreally weird.
It was a really weird momentfor landscape photography,
specifically Because oneEthereum was causing so much
pollution and people were like,well, you can't do that.
(09:46):
Right, this is way back, youcan't do that because you're
ruining the Earth and itcompletely split, like the
landscape community, likethere's some people that still
went, did it?
Some people are like no f you,I hate all of you, you're dead
to me sort of deal.
It was really crazy, like I waslike whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
So it got me more interestedanyway, because it was so
(10:06):
polarizing and so and I, I lovethat kind of shit.
Like I told him, like why is?
it so polarizing, like let'slook into that, you know, and I
did, and I was like oh wow,whether he's way more than just
crypt, like this crypto and mtspace.
It's like it's a whole bigthing, a big world.
(10:28):
A lot of people are, you know,anon, which is cool because,
like I, I came from like playinga lot of video games with just
landmass people around the worldfor like oh yeah, yeah, so to
me, I'm like it didn't make abig deal, I'm like I don't care,
like this is cool, like I cantalk to anyone here.
Um, right, so I don't know, itjust got me more interested as
soon as I saw more landscapephotographers some I knew, some
(10:49):
I don't know.
It just got me more interestedas soon as I saw more landscape
photographers Some I knew, someI didn't know as well, but still
joined in.
So I did join in.
I decided to like try to, butat that time you needed like an
invite to Foundation and like Ihad no friends In the space, in
the space, in this space, inthis space, and so and I'm not
(11:14):
the type of person straight uplike I'm not gonna go like talk
to random people without like ifthere's like a common interest
here, like video games orsomething like.
Sure, I don't give a shit, youknow, but like I didn't really
understand what they or I had noidea about any of these things.
So it's just so overwhelmingand I'm like, well, I don't want
to bug everyone like I'm sofucking stupid with it.
I ended up actually buggingsome people like Ben Scar.
(11:36):
I was like, hey, I don't get it.
What is this?
What's going on here?
He briefly explained.
He's like here, I'll introduceyou to this space.
I'm like, oh shit, you're goingto get me on this space.
I was like I never really spokebefore.
You know, like I've doneinterviews before in web 2, but
like this is different because,like these are just all people I
(11:58):
don't know and I'm like lookingat all these names and shit you
know, and I'm just like I'mlike I don't know, I think I'm
okay.
And then I was like, all right,fucking, I'll do it anyway,
because I was just like bored, Iguess, and so I almost quit in
the beginning, though, to bequite frank, because he needed
(12:21):
an invite to foundation and Ididn't have any friends, like I
said, and I know it's funny, Idid it at the time.
So I was like, uh, well, fuck melike I can't do anything here,
like because that was like theonly option, or super it, and I
applied to known origin.
(12:42):
I got into known origin likeway, but like months later, and
then foundational system.
My only super error was likeyou had to get accepted at the
time.
I mean, you still do like itwas way harder back then.
I feel so thankfully Ruben Wuactually gave me an invite.
Other than that I would havenever, I would have quit because
(13:03):
I had no one else in the space,like I didn't have any friends
there or in the space and anyoneI try to talk to like friend
wise, like outside of uh or inweb two about entities.
It wasn't good, like like somepeople are.
NorCal Guy (13:17):
Like I can't believe you're doing that.
Jared Armijo (13:19):
And then, and then I had others that were kind of
interested but they're like,well, I don't know.
And like then, Terry, I waslike terry, just come, like do
this with me, because like I waslike I need people, I was like
I need help and like I don'tknow.
(13:47):
And then you know that's how Igot into it really.
So if it wasn't for ruben'sinvite, because I was like I
can't get into anything and Idon't know, and then you know,
that's how I got into it really.
So if it wasn't for Ruben'sinvite, cause I was like I can't
get into anything and I don'tknow anyone here, I don't give a
shit Like I can't do anything,I don't know what to do and I'm
not at the time I wasn'tcomfortable enough to like reach
out to all these randomstrangers like about something I
just had no idea about.
Like you know, crypto on itselfis a huge big thing.
(14:10):
So I had to learn that.
What NFT was, what is minting,what is you know gas costs, what
is this, what is that?
And it's just like what's a PFP, you know?
Like it's stupid shit like that.
And trying to understand thelingo, it was like overwhelming,
and so I was just like allright it.
Like I think I'm just not gonnaparticipate if I don't somehow
(14:31):
gonna invite within like twoweeks.
I don't know, like I'm justgonna go peace but it worked out
.
So, like here, I am talking toyou now like yeah later, right.
So yeah, that's how I got intoit.
(14:51):
It's a good.
It's a good story it's a goodstory.
NorCal Guy (14:57):
Why?
Why did you choose art and whatbrought, or what brought, you
to photography?
Jared Armijo (15:03):
you know, I've always been creative, even since
I was a kid.
Like I mean, like my wholefamily is creative as hell, like
they are, like they're painters.
No one else does photographybut me.
I'm like the outlier, I'll say,but they all paint and do like
all other cool shit.
Like it's kind of amazing whatthey can do.
(15:24):
Um, and so for me personally, Ithink I was just born to be an
artist.
I mean, I've always been supercreative and then, with my
synesthesia, even when I was akid, it would inspire me to be
more artistic and express itwithout knowing I was actually
expressing my synesthesia.
(15:44):
It's like I found drawings whenI went to my parents' house
from when I was four or fiveyears old, and these drawings
and the reason why I'mexplaining it is because these
drawings were like they're justshapes, and so I would scribble
(16:08):
on paper all kinds of differentfunky, amorphous shapes and then
I would color them in and itwas weird.
I was like why the fuck?
My parents were like, why doyou do that?
And I'm like I would never knowas a kid.
I'm like I don't know.
I think it's pretty.
And I would just keep on andthen do the shapes and color
them in really nicely, like Iwould do, like gradients and
stuff.
I'm like I mean, it was prettycool to see how I understood
(16:28):
color back then to what Iunderstand color now.
And so for me, I think I wasborn to be artistic.
Whether it be a photographer, apainter, whatever the hell I'm
going to do, I'm born to beartistic and probably an artist
overall.
So that's just who I am.
(16:48):
But I started photo in highschool.
Um, one of my photo teachers,barb davis, uh, she really saw
that I had an eye for shape andthen she just kept pushing me to
do more.
She would give me all thesupplies I wanted.
Like literally I've tried allkinds of weird processes because
(17:09):
she had money to spend but shewouldn't spend it on all the
kids because she thought they'rejust wasting her shit.
And she said that she didn'treally say that and he's like no
, they're just wasting that shit.
So what do you want?
NorCal Guy (17:23):
and so true because kids, you know, there's people
we're gonna focus our resourceson the uh prime candidate that's
basically what she said,without, like she definitely did
say it, and so she.
Jared Armijo (17:37):
Because you're like they're wasting my time,
like it's good, what do you wantto do?
And she was real honest, I'mstill good friends with her.
Now you know um that's awesomebut she was like, let me do
whatever.
Like she gave me liquid lightto paint on the objects to paint
my photographs on, she wouldlet me oil paint my photographs
(17:58):
like on film.
Um, you know, van dyke, uh,dude, cyan types, I mean
literally like anything I wantedto do.
If I saw like I had somewhat ofinterest, she's like all right,
I'll buy it.
And she looked and give it tome.
Um, but with school, you knowthe school's resources, not her
own right right right and Idon't know.
(18:20):
Ever since then I've been doingit, you know that's cool.
NorCal Guy (18:27):
That's cool, that's really that's awesome.
So what?
What jobs have you done alongthe way.
Jared Armijo (18:34):
Well, my main job, I'm sure.
Well, some people know, uh, butI actually work in the hospital,
um, I do medical imaging, so no, okay yeah I know, because I
was exactly and so I was like,well, how do I make a
sustainable income while helpingpeople, while providing money
(18:55):
for me to do actual photographythat I want to do produce by
anything other than my, my brain, like that is the only thing
that needs to be there, nothingelse.
Like I don't need a cell tomake a living and be okay.
(19:17):
You know, and that's kind oflike my thinking.
In the process of, like, goingto medical imaging, I originally
I was like all right, I'm gonnabe a radiologist, and then I
was oh, yeah.
Then I was like fuck that.
I was like nah, nah, I'm good,I'm good.
The lifestyle there is prettysweet at times, but the amount
(19:40):
of call you have to do and theamount of bullshit you have to
read there's so many stupidexams that I still do just from
doctor's orders I'm just likeGod, I'd be so pissed about to
(20:03):
read this.
Thank god I don't.
I don't know.
Awesome, that's basically that.
Yeah, this medical.
For the past like 11 years, Idid work at tropical smoothie.
I worked at tropical smoothie,though, in college.
Oh, and brumas, which was likea southern restaurant when I
lived in florida.
It was a mom-pop shop and ahouse make southern food nice.
So those three things don't eatthat top of the smoothie anyway
(20:29):
, by the way, it's just saltsugar and yeah, and I'm gonna
say it's awful for you.
I also don't like the job, soI'm probably biased perfect,
perfect.
NorCal Guy (20:48):
So if you were an animal, what would you be and
why?
Jared Armijo (20:53):
you know I've always been obsessed with killer
whales, since I was a kid.
It was like, I mean like freewilly and all that.
That was me.
I wish it was me in the moviemovie I love killer whales.
Uh, they're creepy, they'resmart, they're about family and
(21:16):
they are the one of the mostwell-traveled whales in the
world and I kind of admire allthose.
Like it keeps you, they keepyou on your feet, you know.
You're like they're so fuckingintelligent and creepy about how
they do things you know, know,like with hunting and everything
.
It's just like ah, I just foundit so mesmerizing.
I'm like, wow, these things areso fucking crazy.
But that would be me.
NorCal Guy (21:40):
I love it.
I love it.
Do you have a favorite food?
Jared Armijo (21:47):
I have too many favorite foods.
I eat too much.
This is why I've been going tothe gym for the past four months
.
I love a favorite food.
It's good, it's good.
I'll I'll say something.
Recently, my favorite foodoverall would probably be
something Japanese, probablysomething like sushi, just a
(22:09):
good you know sushi bowl.
But one of the best things I'vehad recently was an apple
galette with rosemary ice cream,and it was like the apple
galette had like a creme bruleekind of base, so you literally
got that nice crunch it was.
(22:30):
It was fucking insane.
And so then you pair it withthe rosemary ice cream.
I was like god damn it, likethis is like one of the best
desserts I've had, and so Iordered another one to go.
NorCal Guy (22:41):
That sounds really good oh man, all right, that
sounds good that sounds reallygood.
Jared Armijo (22:52):
It's fucking fantastic.
NorCal Guy (22:53):
I'm not gonna lie what's the best piece of advice
you have been given?
Jared Armijo (23:06):
um, um, I, my dad, was military for 22 years and
he would always say to me as akid um, don't be a sheep, um, be
a shepherd, uh, and so, um, Idon't know.
I take that a lot to heartPersonally.
(23:27):
It's just like do your ownthing and just go with it, like
who gives a fuck what otherpeople are thinking or doing, or
like saying or whatever, justdo what you want to do.
But you know, be a leader at itand like be good at it and just
keep pushing on.
So I guess for me that'sprobably one of the best advices
I've had is just be me, andbeing me has gotten me far, you
(23:51):
know.
So I was like, okay, maybe he'sright.
I wouldn't tell him that,because he's kind of a hard ass
and he knows it and I love himto death.
So he won't ever listen to this.
And if he does, I'm still notgoing to tell your dad.
You probably will ever listento this.
And if he does, I'm still notgoing to tell your dad.
You probably will actuallylisten to this awesome, awesome.
NorCal Guy (24:14):
I love it.
I love it.
Do you have any advice forartists joining the crypto art
space?
Jared Armijo (24:23):
I wish I knew a lot when I came in, but I didn't
.
Do not FOMO into everything,jesus Christ.
Do not FOMO.
This space fucks with yourfucking head so bad that you're
just like maybe I should buythis Pepe.
(24:45):
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Because I saw so-and-so do,it's like because I saw so and
so do it.
And they did it and they did it.
I think it's time for me to doit, and it's like it's like wait
, don't you have?
your own set of goals here, likewhat are you trying to do?
You know with your investmentsfor your money that you made um,
I would just say do not, fomo,do what you want to do, but be
(25:07):
smart about your moves in thisspace overall, because it is a
very different ball gamecompared to like web 2.
Like web 2 is very simple in myopinion.
I'm like I love it.
I love both spaces, but I justfeel, like.
web 2 is more like apply to this, apply, apply, apply, apply and
then something will happen,right, whereas Web3 is like you
(25:30):
have all these littleintricacies with crypto and then
a T market, and then what ifthe stock market goes down or
some bullshit?
World event happens, and nowyou're, there's a lot to it.
So I would just say do not fomoin and pay attention like to
all that is happening in theworld and in one thing, when
(25:54):
you're trying to makeinvestments and do not get
caught up in the phone.
Oh my god, I've seen so manyartists like just get burnt, you
know, on it and like they lose.
I've seen so many artists justget burnt on it.
They lose what they've madefrom their art.
I'm like, ah fuck, I feel bad.
I do because I'm just like man,I don't know.
(26:15):
That's a terrible thing to see.
It is that's why I would hopeother people coming into this
space would realize Do not filmon land.
Pay attention, know your goals,know when to sell.
Take profits like.
Take fucking profits like atthe end of the day, if you're
trying to get to a differentgoal of abc, like I want to buy
(26:38):
this or I need a new camera, oryou know I need to pay off my
mortgage or you know, whateverthat, whatever your thing is,
remember that, like, get whatyou need to do that and don't
just blah, throw it away,especially if you made it right
for sure I wish.
Someone told me that in thebeginning though right right,
(27:04):
but I've been pretty good.
I was like, really I'm like I'malways I'm very defensive with
these things, Cause I'm justlike I don't know I can't buy a
lot, Cause like I just likefreak out, Like if I do an
investment sort of thing, likeyou know, I don't know, that's
just my personality, so.
NorCal Guy (27:21):
But yeah, anyway, that's my advice, that's fair,
that's fair, that's fair, I likeit.
I like it if you could live ormove anywhere where would you
live and why?
Jared Armijo (27:34):
you know it's so funny.
When you sent me thesequestions, I literally like I
was reading through and I waslike cool, cool, nice, and then
this question came up and I wasjust like what the fuck?
And and I mean that in a goodway, and let me explain why I
said that I just finished makinga piece about feeling out of
(27:59):
place, like a photo, and I waslike cause I, you know, I just
moved here to New Mexico fromOregon.
I lived in Oregon for eightyears and I said fuck it, I want
to move.
And I moved here to New Mexicofrom Oregon.
I lived in Oregon for eightyears.
I said fuck it, I want to move.
I moved here with my partner.
Then I'm coming to realize,maybe these past two months,
that maybe I just don't belongin the USA, lived outside, well,
(28:30):
and I say that because it'sjust, you know, like you know,
we don't have universal healthcare.
I work in health care.
Like I see how fucked up thesystem is, and so it's just
these little things like that.
And it's like, is this shitever gonna change in the us?
Or like no, you know, like,what the fuck are we doing here
and so, and then it just had mequestioning like because I lived
in other countries before, likejapan and england, and I'm like
(28:51):
I know every country has theirown issue but would I be happier
with their issues than the usissues?
And then I said I probably wouldbe okay with their issues over
the us issues issues.
So the places I had in mind waslike New Zealand would be
(29:11):
pretty cool.
I could never do Canada, it'stoo cold, it's too snowy.
But I literally thought NewZealand, potentially Australia,
those would probably be one ofthe top two picks I think I'd
pick, maybe somewhere in Europe,maybe I know when you got, when
(29:32):
I got that question, I was justlike ah, what?
That's fucking weird.
Damn, this fucking, this fuckingworld right, right, all right
that's fair, that's so do youhave any questions for me?
(30:10):
Yeah, okay.
So I got asked this questionfrom a patient Okay, they're
really out of it.
And so I was just kind of like,okay, okay, so.
But he asked he's like, out ofthe seven deadly sins, which one
do you think ruins humanity?
And I was like, and this guywas very like out of it and I
was just like, so like I wasactually taken back because I
didn't think, just by looking atthe guy and this is not to be
super judgmental or anything,it's just like I didn't think,
you know, like, because you'reso out of it, like he was high
(30:31):
off of something, right, right,and I was just like, whoa,
that's a deep ass questionyou're asking right now, right,
and I am about to scan you and,uh, and I just looked, I was,
you know, let me think on it andI'll tell you what I think
after the scan, because I waslike that's a very deep question
(30:54):
and I don't mind answering it,but that is my question to you
Because it was a very crazyquestion.
NorCal Guy (31:05):
That is a crazy question and let me just read
off what those seven deadly sinsthere you go.
Okay, I had a little guy andI'm like I'm not even prepared
for this, yeah so lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy,
(31:27):
pride, and which one ruins theworld.
Jared Armijo (31:32):
The most is what he said or asked.
NorCal Guy (31:35):
I'm gonna say pride okay on my my side.
Jared Armijo (31:43):
There you go.
There we have it.
Pride is gonna end the world,according to NorCal.
So if something happens badtomorrow, y'all it's his fault.
He predicted it.
That's on him.
Oh man, frick, all right.
NorCal Guy (32:05):
Any other questions?
Jared Armijo (32:07):
No, I mean, I was like that's a really good
question.
It caught me off guard and Iwas working.
I was like yeah, I'll ask that,oh no, alright.
NorCal Guy (32:27):
Well, do you have any shout outs, any upcoming
projects you'd like to talkabout?
Jared Armijo (32:33):
for shout outs uh, to say you know, terry, of
course, because she is literallylike my rock.
I I call her she's like myearth because I like I am very
like airy and kind of out theresometimes, like out in the sky,
just very airy kind of element.
She's more of a grounding andso it's so funny because we're
(32:57):
opposites on a lot of thingslike that, but we're like she's
like my best friend.
So I would definitely say her,I would say TJ Thorne, I love TJ
.
I just got his book, which isfucking amazing.
God, it's fucking good and likeI've seen, I know TJ's work
(33:18):
right and I'm like, yeah, okay,I want the book, yeah, but I'm
like looking through it lastnight and I was so blown away by
it I was just like holy shit,like this is insane.
These water photographs arejust fucking nuts.
So, tj, uh, zach, joelle, Ilove joelle.
(33:40):
I I got to meet her twice andhang out with her.
She came to my sister's housein the mexico actually, like ran
away randomly ran away and shelike, yeah, I'm in new mexico.
I was like what the fuck?
And uh, kath, kath samard ispretty, she's pretty fucking
awesome.
So those are my shout outs, Ithink, um, any project I'm
(34:04):
working on I'm starting aproject called death is, and
it's based off of southwesternkind of theme.
Uh, since I worked during thepandemic, I saw a lot more death
uh in my job and it just, youknow, it just makes you question
so much more, and I was acancer hospital I worked at as
(34:24):
well.
So it was just a really badcombo, be stuck in the fucking
pandemic.
Like I know it's like darkhumor, funny and it is now.
It is now, and like I cantotally laugh at it because it's
just like that's the shit luckI get.
Dude, that's the shit stuffthat happens to me and I'm just
(34:45):
like I'm.
It's just so funny Cause likeme and Terry talking about the
like one like a while ago andshe's like I have a great life,
that's what.
NorCal Guy (34:55):
Terry says she's like.
Jared Armijo (34:58):
I haven't had really any bad things happen
like you've had, and I'm like Iknow you don't need to tell me,
terry, I'm living it, thank you.
But yeah, the project is goingto be it's called Death Is, and
it's going to be a littledifferent for me.
(35:19):
It's going to take me probablya year or two to actually do oh
wow, um, oh wow.
Basically it's like I'm gonnamake some sort of like, uh, kind
of like a grim reaper, but notmore.
Um, how do you explain like abit more southwestern kind of
george o'keefe twist with it?
(35:39):
Um, and it's got me all thesedifferent, different examples of
what death is to me and whatI've seen through you know, my
past years, but in differentlandscapes and whatnot.
So it'll be a very differentkind of portrait work.
But yeah, that's, it Soundsgood.
NorCal Guy (36:01):
Nice, I look forward to it.
Man, that'd be good.
Yeah, oh, have a good, yeah, ohoh man, I'm just messing around
oh man awesome well, jared.
(36:22):
Yes, thank you for your timetoday for this interview.
I really enjoyed it.
There's a lot of laughs, it'sreally good, I laugh a lot.
Jared Armijo (36:32):
I've been told that like I've been told I can
say whatever to someone becauseI laugh, and like I can get away
with it because I laugh, andwhere I laugh at them, to them
because they're like your laughis so contagious that you can
literally call me a fuckingidiot and I'll probably laugh at
it and I'm like I try not to doit, but I've been guilty of it,
(36:58):
I'm not gonna lie.
NorCal Guy (37:00):
But it's all good fun anyway, cool man.
Jared Armijo (37:04):
Well, I hope you have a great day and we'll talk
soon, cool.
NorCal Guy (37:06):
But it's all good fun, perfect, anyway, yeah, cool
man.
Well, I hope you have a greatday and we'll talk soon, cool.
Jared Armijo (37:11):
See you, bye, bye.
Who is this?
Who is?
NorCal Guy (37:16):
this guy?
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Who is this guy?
Jared Armijo (37:23):
Nor Cal guy, nor Cal guy, nor Cal guy Nor Cal guy
, nor this guy, norcal guy,norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal
guy, norcal guy, norcal guy,norcal guy, norcal guy, norcal
and chill podcast show it'schill time, norcal and chill
podcast.
NorCal Guy (37:37):
What the what the chill NorCal and chill podcast
show it's chill time, norcal andchill podcast.
What the what the?
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