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December 7, 2022 46 mins

Episode 76.   “… white supremacy mythology is so deeply embedded in the US culture… meaning images and stories on television and other places, and it's slippery and it's insidious and it's persistent.”

Jill Nagle is an author, coach, facilitator, and founder of Evolutionary Workplace. Her aim is to help reduce harm to Black and Brown people, as well as support white people in liberating themselves from the effects of white supremacy’s toxic mythology.

Change is hard and when faced with it, it’s human nature to ask, what’s in it for me?  Many white people are likely asking that question and are afraid that dismantling racism is going to cost them something. 

That’s exactly what Linda and Jill discuss:

  • What is “white supremacy mythology?”
  • How does blame, shame and guilt keep this mythology in place and, its effects on  ALL people? 
  • Understand the first step in helping to combat racism. Hint: It’s all about us. 

Jill also tells a story about her Aunt Phyllis's antiracism work and how it influenced her to carry on her legacy.

Jill recently found  representation for her book, Skin in the Game: How White People Benefit from Dismantling White Supremacy. 

To contact Jill and learn more about her work, go to EvolutionaryWorkplace.com.

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If you have a question or a topic you'd like addressed on an upcoming episode, go to Normal-Lies.com and click the contact page to send Linda a message.

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