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September 15, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The North Florida Sports Network Football.
The North Florida SportsNetwork.

(00:27):
Hey, welcome back.
It is just another FootballMonday, so we got a lot to react
to College NFL Results.
Coach firing B bunch of closegames.
An interception again by Legwayit's a million.

(00:57):
Miami looks the part.
The Bengals lost Joe Burrow butare 2-0.
That Giants-Cowboys game wasEntertaining.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I don't think any team yeah, it was.
I don't think either of thoseteams are any good.
They both suck.
But it was fun to watch Rustonthrow it.
He's got that deep ball still.
If you're not going to give him, it's all he's got.
Yeah, if you can't get to him,he can still throw it.
But they blew it.

(01:48):
I mean, kicking a 64-yarderain't nothing.
60-yarders are going in leftand right now.
Yeah, 70-yarder is coming.
Somebody's going to kick a kickfrom their side of the 50.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Need to narrow the goal posts?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Ooh, something like that.
I don't wanna see all thiskicking.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
They did it before they can do it again.
The Noles had a bye Still gotto move up.
The Knowles had a bye Still gotto move up.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
And they moved up.
This happens, doesn't alwayshappen.
Gators Suck.
I mean they played.
The defenses get better but thequarterback's worse.
It's like the team got betterbut the quarterback got worse.

(02:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
He just looks like somebody that didn't practice
for eight months.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, as the Gators fall to 1-2, Notre Dame falls to
0-2.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Still ranked.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Controversial ending Definitely a hold.
Oh dude, it was blatant.
A one and two Notre Dame fallsto 0-2.
Still ranked Controversialending Definitely a hold.
Dude, it was blatant.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
They tackled the dude .
Yeah, come on, man, when yougrab a guy by the legs and pull
him down, that's shit you got tocall If it was just up around
the shoulder pads.
Should that be reviewable?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Obvious plays obvious penalties If it was just like
up around the shoulder pads.
Yeah, That'd be reviewable.
I mean obvious plays likeobvious penalties.
Is that the next step?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I don't know, but it should be so many angles though.
It should be a fireable offense, I mean you can't miss obvious
holds like that.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
This is similar to like a blown call, the one you
had Remember there was it in inthe NFC championship in New
Orleans with the passinterference and they tried to
review pass interference.
That didn't last, Right,Because what do you like?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
but still, this makes you want to like bring in a
rule change.
You have officials on the fieldwhose responsibility it is is
to watch the line play.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
You can't let the obvious hold like that.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
That's why they call him the goddamn line judge.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Right, you can't tackle a guy on the offensive
line.
That's pretty much all you haveto watch out Like you can, just
got to call the obvious onesguys.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Right, you could call it on every play, but you don't
.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
But you got to call that yeah, but Texas A&M comes
with that.
That probably would haveaffected the play.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, I mean you would have backed them up
another 10 yards Instead ofscoring.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
but that's one of the games.
But you were right, that was.
You picked that one as a gameto watch.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
my takeaway is that, Chris Ash, 41-40, Texas A& that
Chris Ash is a significantdowngrade from Al Golden, that
defensive coordinator.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I mean, they missed the seniors that were on that
defense.
They missed those guys.
But dude, that guy has no ideawhat he's doing.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
At least we're not Tennessee fans today.
That's a tough one.
What a great game that was.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean, if you don't have a dog in the fight.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's what Tennessee does, no pun intended, but God
you're right.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
I mean it's hard to believe.
The last time they won was thatHail Mary, you know because I
remember that.
And like, since then, they'vejust been, oh, biting it, and
that was a tough one man.
And that was a tough one manwhen you had the penalty.
That backed it up, though, byJosh Heupel.
You got to try to get thatcloser.

(05:33):
I mean you know, it wasn't evenclose.
But then he nails it inovertime, right?
But it doesn't matter, right?
That pressure's still there fora kicker.
Yeah, that one.
That one sailed just like thatwide right at 91, just like it
wasn't as close.
But it had that, he just pushedit, pushed it, you knew it

(05:55):
though, man, you, it wasn'tclose.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
You're up eight points and george's got the ball
late in the fourth quarter.
You know they got a score andget a two-point conversion.
When you allow them to do that,that kind of just, that's
Tennessee Well missing the kick.
Yeah, I know, but they shouldhave ended.
It Shouldn't have got to thatLike, your defense has to be

(06:20):
able to make a stop with thegame on the line, and it's same
old, same old man.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Miami looks good.
Yeah, they look like a top fiveteam.
Yeah, well, I mean Both sidesof the ball.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Right and USF is not no.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
USF came back to their reality Right, which you
said that was.
I picked a backdoor cover.
I was all for that all.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
There's no shot at that, yep miami looks the part
they won't.
You know, usf will not wintheir conference that no they're
not good.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
They're not.
It's really shocking to seeflorida, you know.
Then, coming back to floridaand seeing what, seeing what I
thought would happen is Ithought they would come in fired
up and play hard and inspired,and I thought they did, which
you could see on defense.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
You turned the ball over five times.
Their defense is giving up twotouchdowns this season and the
one they gave up against USF wasa fluke.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
You come into a number three team in the country
touchdowns this season.
The one they gave up againstUSF was a fluke and you play
that good, except for oneposition and he blew it, one of
them being a pick six to ice it.
I mean you can't as a, that's atough one.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
The interceptions he threw were not just that's on
billy because he's isn't.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
He do everything offensive, he's the quarterback.
He's the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
He's the play caller, he's the whisper well, he's not
the quarterback coach, he's theplay caller.
He's the play caller.
So what I mean?
He's got to dumb the schemedown, right?
What?
It is the LSU game all night.
Dj Lagway's mechanics arehorrible.
Very rarely does the ball comeout of his hand the same way

(08:16):
from throw to throw, same armangle, same delivery, and
nowhere was it magnified morethan on those quick slants where
you have to have the ball infront of the receiver, at his
chest, at his face, hitting himin the hands, especially in
press coverage.
And he could not do that.

(08:36):
Time and time again he threwinterceptions, he threw
incompletions and that, likethat's frustrating, right.
So you got to dumb the schemedown, man.
You have to make pretty muchevery throw that he's going to
make now high percentage.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Do you think he's?

Speaker 2 (08:52):
hurt.
I don't know.
I don't know if he's hurt asmuch as he's just rusty Rusty.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
And he's just Thumbs off.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, because he looked way better last year he
off.
Yeah, well he's.
He looked way better last year,he did way better, but he still
wasn't accurate, even in hisgood games.
You know he was barely over 50.
Yep, he had some throwsdownfield that went, you know.
But no, his mechanics arehorrible, he doesn't.
He looks like somebody who hasdone no practicing since last

(09:21):
season, who hasn't worked ongetting any better anywhere well
, if you have the defense whereyou can play like that, you
can't have that.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
So you you just got to rely on your punter right and
just run the ball running gameand run the ball.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Don't allow him to do that, and that's that's.
Another thing is he doesn'thave what anthony had, which is
you know what, if I'm havingaccuracy issues, plays are
breaking down, I can just takeoff and house it 40 yards
because I'm faster thaneverybody else.
That's not DJ Lagway.
He's mobile enough.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
You know he's big kid strong More of a Cam Moore type
.
Right, but he doesn't have that.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
He's a lot more like Graham Mertz than he would than
anybody.
You know he's not going to killyou with his legs.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well, he killed him with his arms and uh, the Gators
fall to one and two with Miamicoming yeah, and I'm gonna say
something the LSU great defense,their offense.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I don't think it's that great, which?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
is yeah, you got nussmeyer.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
They're damn near making four million yeah, I got
man, they got some, they gotsome problems.
These guys aren't that goodthey don't have much of a
running game is that young?
And yeah, they don't have nflreceivers looks bad.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
their defense looks really good.
The coordinator change was agood hire, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
So Florida's rolling in this next week with the
high-powered offense they'regoing up against.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, Miami has high-powered offense.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, relying on that defense to keep you in the game
.
That's not going to work.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Miami looks good.
Shannon Dawson his resume islooking really good.
I mean, you're taking, ifyou're a good transfer
quarterback, I mean where elsewould you want to go if you're
not going to be drafted in thefirst round?
And you want to go somewhere,go to Miami.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, if you don't want to.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Because what he's doing right now with Carson Beck
is.
I saw Carson Beck at Georgia.
This is a way better version ofhim.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, the receivers are catching the ball.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
The receivers are catching the ball.
He looks more polished.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
He looks more confident You're keeping heat
off of him Right?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yep, miami looks the part that.
Yeah, and Carson Beck was agood decision.
I mean, especially when you'regoing to give him $4 million.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, miami looks good, the defense Bain looks
like a killer.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, I mean, you know, Florida's in trouble.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Florida's in trouble.
We said that last week theirbest chance was to win at LSU,
which we saw, and I think theyoutplayed LSU, except for one
position Right, which you got togive lsu credit.
You know they did make theplace they did and um the.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
The pick six was a great play, but you got to give
the defensive coordinator credit.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
You got to give brian kelly credit for hiring that
guy.
So I mean, like you didn't makethe interceptions and it
doesn't matter, yeah it doesn't.
Sometimes it's not pretty, itdoesn't matter, you'd rather be.
Sometimes it's not pretty, itdoesn't matter, you'd rather be
undefeated, like you are so farright.
Right, I mean you can look goodand lose and win heismans and
have three or four losses.
I'd rather win and uh.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
So no hate on lsu no, but I I think you know people
like herb street crowning themthe best team in the country
need to, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's Kirk.
That's what he does.
Nobody knows.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Nobody knows.
It's so wide open now with theNIL and the transfer portal from
year to year.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
They beat a bad Clemson team.
Look at Florida State this year.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I mean, look at, at least you have, because you
still have teams like GeorgiaTech, yeah, and a coach like
Brent P out there who's justbeat if you're an underdog.
Oh great, they beat Clemson.
I don't think that was a shock.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
No, that wasn't At all.
I actually I kind of expectedthem to, not, right I?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
picked Georgia Tech to win the game.
Yeah, and it's no disrespect toClemson, it's respect to
Georgia Tech and what he's builtthere.
I mean, this is a team.
That now what the next stepthey have to do is take when
they're the target, because nowthat's going to change.

(13:44):
If you look at their schedule,they're going to be favored now.
That's going to change.
If you look at their schedule,they're going to be favored in
the rest of their games Untilyou get to that Georgia week.
Well, I'm talking about interms of getting to Charlotte
for them.
Yeah, Like if they goundefeated they make it to
Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
There's some very interesting schedules out there,
because all of a sudden you gotCal out at Berkeley who doesn't
play with the gunslinger yeahand they're.
They're tough as they don'tplay miami, fsu or georgia tech.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Their toughest game is louisville in november and
who would have thought that,yeah, nobody was saying that no,
you don't know, nobody knows.
It'll be fun to watch, though,and Miami and Florida State is
looking like a showdown.
Yeah, of two teams where if youhave a game where, if they both

(14:33):
play up to their expectations,whoever loses that game is not
going to be out of it, right, ifthey keep playing like they are
.
That's why, if it comes down,it's like a field goal If they
keep playing like they are.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's why, if it comes down, it's like a field
goal.
Now that may be, the winner orloser of that game may find
themselves not going toCharlotte.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Exactly, that's exactly where I was going.
But based on the schedule ofGeorgia Tech and Cal, you have a
good chance of one of thembeing undefeated.
Yeah, so it means the winner ofMiami-Florida State is going to
play one of those teams, yeahRight, and a loser which you
wouldn't?
Will that take them out of theplayoff consideration?

(15:13):
Then you have this argumentwhich you're going to have is
this one You're glad you beatAlabama and that should.
We'll see if that holds weight,like it did for Texas two years
ago, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
That's the only thing that matters.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, because if you're telling me, a Florida
state team wins out and the onlyloss hat, and they do lose to
Miami in a good game and Miami'sundefeated, beating the shit
out of everybody, yeah, andthey're number one in the
country.
I'm going to see Florida statehave another shot at that Right.
Over and they've proven theydeserve that.

(15:51):
If, if they win the rest oftheir games in it which which
they might can do there's achance.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I would be shocked for miami, though.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Same thing for miami.
What if they come in here andthey play in a close game and
florida state wins in a closegame, but look at their schedule
.
They go on and win the rest oftheir games.
They get left out.
Yeah, they have that winagainst Notre Dame, but that's
not looking as good as it oncewas.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
But that's going to be the argument If I had to take
a pick, I would say that Miamican probably afford to lose that
game and still have a shot atgoing to the ACC championship
game.
The likelihood of them winningout, compared to, say, if
Florida State wins and thenwinning out, I think is higher.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Well, that doesn't mean anything, I guess.
It just shows you how big thisgame is.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah Well, you got to not step on your dick going up
to Charlottesville first.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, that's a big game too, and we've already
mentioned that, and Miami tookcare of their test.
They'll have another one withthe Gators you know whose
defense which we'll see how goodthe Miami offense is.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Right, I think this will be the best defense they've
faced.
I don't think it's going tomatter, though.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
But yeah, how hard will they try after a quarter
and now or, you know, even rightin planning?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
well, after watching your quarterback, give the ball
away continuously, which I Ihave no.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
This is this.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I have no reason to think that lagway is going to
stop doing that yeah, you got togo into the foxhole.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
If you're the gators, though, I mean you're not going
to win the sec, so what youhave here is a rivalry game that
you have to respond to.
You got your asses kicked athome.
You got to motivate that way.
You got to go in, and this isabout pride yeah and this is
about everything is on the line.
Your quarterback's got to gointo the foxhole, so you got to

(17:52):
prevent him from making thosetype of throws.
I mean, this is pretty much Slowthe game down, slow the game
down, keep the ball out ofCarson Beck's hand in that big
bad Miami offense, becausethat's what it is.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
That's another thing, though Miami can.
They can just run the ball ifthey want.
I know.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's what the game plan for Florida has to be First
downs it's got to be.
They need to call up.
They need to meet at the WaffleHouse.
Right Napier needs to call up.
I mean, I know he's got it inhim and he's got to go Georgia
Tech here.
That's how you beat Miami.
That's how you beat anybodythat supposedly has a talent gap

(18:34):
and Georgia.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Tech yeah, you slow it down.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Shorten the game.
Limit the possessions.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yep, take care of the football yeah you can't turn it
over, nope.
And you have to have aquarterback that's going to run
it too, and I don't see that NFL.
It was a crazy day, some goodgames.
Man, I was colts look for real.
Yeah, holy shit, the colts aretwo and oh two and oh against,

(19:03):
uh, because the broncos playedwell they did bone eggs still
makes really dumb decisions.
I think the game plan wasdumbed down a little bit, yep,
and you can see why.
But the Colts look good.
The.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Eagles About the Chiefs 0-2.
0-2.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Patrick Mahomes first time he's lost three games in a
row in his career.
I mean it wasn't his fault.
No, I looked at him and I waslike damn.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I was impressed he was still got it.
He still got it.
Everybody around him, yeah,they don't have.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
They don't have any talent around them kelsey's are
thin, kelsey's washed up.
Yeah, he's a backup.
I think he can still, but youdon't.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
You need somebody else to emerge as a tight end
right well when you, dick, handa touchdown into the defender's
arms at that point in the game,but he looks like a one-man show
out there yeah, I mean he, he'sdoing everything he can, but he
doesn't have anything.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
He's the leading rusher, there's no, they needed
xavier worthy and he's out.
Um, they're oh and two, andthat division looks tough
because the raiders are betterthan.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Raiders are better than they have been Broncos
Chargers, the rosters, the.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Chargers look like they're for real.
Baltimore beat the crap out ofCleveland.
I was wrong about that.
12 points was just a danglylittle trap that I bit and I got
trapped.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Cleveland is just yeah on the road I should have
known this.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Baltimore has these games, especially they get
rolling at home.
Even you saw in the beginningyou saw like, oh, miles
Garrett's here, yeah, he's evengoing to make plays, but
eventually this roller coasteris going to keep going.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
We have all the famed players.
Yeah, Burrow's a lot easier tosack than Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, well, you mean.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Flacco, no, I mean for Miles Garrett.
Sacking Joe Burrow was a loteasier, week one Exactly yeah,
you're right.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
My bad, Lamar still got it.
I mean he didn't.
It wasn't his fault.
They lost to Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
No, it was Dale Henry's.
They lost last year.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
It's going to come down to the playoffs for them.
That's my Super Bowl pick.
I'm sticking with it.
I think this is the year.
Why not?

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Because, no, well, one of them is going to have to
For the same reason.
They never win it.
They're the team man, they'rethe Marty Schottenheimer.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, the gleam.
There's a gleam man, listen,john's already got his his super
bowl ring uh, so it's likebecause they're every year the
most dominant, he could win themvp, like every year.
His numbers are crazy.
Last year he had 41 touchdownsand four four picks yeah and
he's lamar jackson too.

(21:51):
He still isn't crazy.
He's crazy, and jimbo wantedhim at wide receiver yeah that
old brainiac.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
No, I don't want to watch him throw.
Put him in the receiver group.
Okay, bob, nice job, we gotdoubleheader I'll tell you who
sucks.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
What it's.
Jj McCarthy yeah, the VikingsOof.
That was tough to watch.
The Falcons took care ofbusiness, though he can't throw
to his left.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
He's like Zoolander Everything is to the right.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Well, there's so much unknown about this guy Because
Michigan ran the ball 40 times agame.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Well, you go back to that, to his season in michigan,
where they won every game, yeahand where they finally fired
connor stallions, and you lookat his stats.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
So this is this guy's just been a benefit and they've
just taken a nosedive sincestallions was shit canned.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yep, those last few games, the, that's the champion,
Right, Not a team that, oh God.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I finally watched that Netflix thing about
Stallions.
I mean what a great tactician,but still the fact that you're
still having the signs being inthe game.
But that's interesting, thoughyou see the plays, he knew what
was coming.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Right, and now he doesn't the last four games.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
They won weren't because of him.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
No, and it's because of run game the defense is a
rookie it's not a rookie knowmuch about him.
When he was there the entireseason last year.
Yeah, he got hurt, but he wasstill there, right, you know,
you're still learning theconcepts, you're still trying to
take everything.
So you don't think he doesn'thave it.

(23:36):
It's not just throwing the ball, he's just not ready.
It's handling the ball, runningthe offense.
I mean you see the amount ofdelay game penalties they've had
through two games getting theplay in, getting everybody
adjusted why would that change?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Because if you knew the play was coming?
It changes their mindset andthat just shows you how big of
an advantage that team has.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, and the NFL's hard, the NFL's really hard,
it's hard man.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
But when you're not doing college right to prepare
yourself for that next level,when you're changing.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
When you got it, when you know a play's coming.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I mean, I don't take any, it's not on him at all no I
don't.
I don't think that's on him atall.
You, that's a fucking awesomeadvantage, yeah it's the way we
were doing it yeah, it's the waythey're doing.
That's on whatever steak toldme to do it.
The big 10 could have couldhave stepped in and not allowed
them to compete they should havedone.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
They can't do that with one of their, one of their
faces of their conference.
Yeah, they should have done.
They can't do that with one oftheir faces of their conference?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, they should have.
They should have done that.
They got scared and what theydid was they knew they were
cheating.
You keep them out.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
They allowed Michigan to impose their own penalties.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's like I don't care, you're not playing for it
this year, right.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Because you took the whole game.
We're going to suspend yournext coach, but he gets to pick
the games that he misses.
Instead, we're going to haveAlabama make it.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
We're going to have an undefeated team.
Get left out and we're going tohave a team with proven
cheating.
Make it.
Right Big Ten committee couldhave easily taken.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
They're not doing that that's their shot at glory.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Well, yeah, that just goes to show you it's their
money Right?
It's Michigan man.
We want Michigan, alabama andthe Rose Bowl bro, it's coming
already.
We got to beat the SEC, man.
This is our only way of doingit.
What?
But it's just so messed up, man, I'll never forget.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
You shouldn't.
I'll never get over it, never,never.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's only going to prove throughout time to that.
It was how bad it was right.
I think you see in it, likeeven what keon coleman said at
that time, you'll see how theplayer like I loved how he got
that.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
He did that georgia oh, yeah, he's, yeah, he's those
things he's gotten malachistarks a couple times since
they've gotten into the league.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
He looks like he made a big jump from year one to
year two, which you'd want tosee, and you kind of knew what
was coming.
He's a competitor, he's a funguy, but he's not a partier.
He doesn't really drink oranything.
No he's there to play football.
Yeah, and you knew he was goingto have a better year.

(26:18):
I could.
I knew that bothered him andthat's what the bills need.
They need a number one receiverand he, I think he's going to
step up and be that guy.
If he does, that could be thedifference and to get them over
the top.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, they look tough .
Man.
James cook, you got cook andnow coleman with Allen.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, they needed, they need.
Last year they didn't have areceiver threat.
They didn't have anybody thatyou had to fear or that you
could rely on.
He's looking like he's going tobe that guy.
That's what they drafted himfor and that's what they wanted
to see.
The Bills looked the part, theJets, ugh.
Yeah, they still suck, justin.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Fields.
Just I think what we found outis that the Steelers suck too.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yep, that's why it was a close game.
They gave them, well, one ofthe touchdowns was they
literally on a kickoff wherethey kicked it in the end zone
and then Seattle went down thereand nobody could catch the
kickoff or something.
So like that's, like don't, butyeah, I mean, well, seattle's
defense is for real and I toldyou that.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Their defense is number one in every stat, but
it's only been two weeks.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, that's fine.
Their defense is for real.
That team is going to be tough.
They might not win a bunch, butthey're going to be tough for
everybody.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
The Steelers still, they look like they got a
42-year-old quarterback.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
So when you play against those kind of teams,
you're not going to be able tohave those games before
touchdown.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Right, he's not going to.
Just you know, it's one thingto do it against the Jets.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
The Jaguars blew it.
In a game where you lose JoeBurrow, you're allowed Browning
to come in and lead agame-winning drive.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Right, and you saw who they picked on on that
game-winning drive Trevor Hunter.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, travis Hunter, sorry, and that's what the back
end.
What should the Bengals do?
I mean honestly, browning's'snot bad, he's proven already.
He's had time because joeburrow right, he's been there.
Yeah, he's been there, so I butthey probably should get a
backup you weren't winning thedivision with joe burrow well,

(28:27):
you know I think if you're twoand oh, you go for a budget back
up here Right.
Only taking this to bring up.
Why not bring in Jameis?
Would Jameis start?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
over Browning no no.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
But you need to have somebody.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
There's a whole lot of teams that need to bring in
Jameis right now.
Yes, who Help me?
I'll start with the Vikings.
Oh my gosh.
Panthers, dolphins, it's myquarterback.
Saints it's my quarterback.
I mean, just go down the list.
Jets, it's my quarterback.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I know.
So what are they?
I mean, and he's third stringRight, because Russ can still
sling it.
I think Dart can play.
So what are the Giants doing?
I don't know.
They're doing Giants stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I guess I don't know, Just stay here and be the
backup man You're gettingmediatized.
Keep paying me that money, thenfine.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Whatever, fine, I just need him on there.
If he's not going to play, weneed to get him in coach or
media spot.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I mean, he's basically coaching right now for
the Giants.
You saw him talking to thelinemen for New York.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Oh, he's great.
He's a great lesson to youngplayers.
He's going to keep a job by hisattitude, because they probably
see like, this guy's prettygood and he's third string,
right, it's all football withhim.
But he's just doing what he cancontrol.
He only can control what youcan control.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
But there are some shitty quarterbacks in the
league, right now.
There really are SpencerRattler dude, he's starting,
he's starting Him and BryceYoung and Tua, the diminutive
quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, tua looks like he's scared, which is
understandable.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Well, he's done, man, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
He's had his.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Like, the years are starting to stack up.
All those concussions Right,the coach is done there, yep.
That was a tough one.
Bryce Young has never been goodyeah.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
I think Panix is the deal, real deal.
Yeah, I like them, I like theball.
He's got a good arm.
You know, actually, the losswhen he made those plays.
Yeah, that was what impressedme, his tough and, uh, his
ability to make those plays andfighting the bucks in week one.

(30:56):
Yeah, but I like him.
I think he's a keeper, um, butyou're right, um, it's such a
nobody knows but, you have tohave it.
So it's like we'll get cousins,but we like this guy.
We like this guy like kirk paybrock purdy, but we like mac
jones all along.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
So we just want what we really want is to pay a guy
to not play and win with a guyon cheap to show how brilliant I
am despite my idiot gm right.
That's the whole plan here hejust loves collecting backup qbs
and making him look good thisis so kyle shanahan, right, this

(31:37):
whole, like he is loving this.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
He's like oh so we can pay this brock purdy kid,
right, he's just gonna get hurtand then I'm gonna win with
whoever I'll win with whoever,and then it's gonna just show
how good of a coach I am.
But then they're going to belike well, why'd you trade for
Trey Lance?

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Nobody talk about that anymore, okay.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Or you're going to just blame freaking John Lynch.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's baffling to me.
Yeah, none of them should havea job based on that.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
I know, but like but they've just managed to.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Well, there's some sort of uh, that's.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
There's some sort of disconnect there with gm play
caller, I think shanahan yeah,he just does what he wants right
, he does what he wants, goodenough it's good enough until
your, your workhorse gets hurt.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Because I'm telling you, man, if McCaffrey goes down
they got the backup he's prettygood, We'll see.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's the Saints man.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
It's the Saints so it's on the road, it's the NFL,
it's still the Saints.
You're 2-0.
Yeah, and you know you'll seeMac Jones can play against a
good defense.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, you got to play the Rams though.
Right, there you go.
You got to play a good defense.
We'll see what you can do.
I think the Rams, like I said,if Matt Stafford stays up,
they're my pick.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
In that division.
Yeah, I think they've done agreat job in replacing the
talent on that defense.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
It's going to be the Eagles and the NFC again.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Well, no, no, no, no.
You saw it last year in thedivisional round.
The Rams could play with them,the Rams, if that game's without
the snow freaking a snowstormeven if it's in Philadelphia.
Without that snowstorm, Ramswin Right.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
This year the Eagles defense is better this year.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, they lost some guys on the edge they got
younger.
Yeah, but they're a monsterinside, right, I don't know.
I think Green Bay and LA canchallenge them.
But you're right,philadelphia's got to be the
favorite.
But I think, if you get in aone-game scenario, I could see

(33:56):
the Rams beating the Eagles.
I could see the Packers beatingthe Eagles.
Yeah, those are my three teams.
Get them away from Philly.
Those are my three teams.
No, no, no, I think you canbeat them.
You just can't have a snowstorm.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Well, that's going to be Philadelphia, man, yeah,
you're right.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
You're right.
So home field is going tomatter because you got Lambeau,
or if you're the Rams you got tocome out here playing the damn
great weather.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, we don't have to freeze our asses off, we just
play real football.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
I think it's going to be something to watch.
I think those are your topteams, but Niners will have
something to say about it.
Yeah, bucks will have somethingto say about it.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
They play at night, I think you got Niners Bucks
Lions, even Lions.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Kind of that second tier.
Yeah, they look like theydidn't.
Bears are fucking awful man,yeah, and the Lions are really
good that was one week and thePackers are really good.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, that's what that is Lambeau's.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Really tough to play the Packers when they're good.
Yeah, when they got a passrusher and a quarterback and a
coach, good luck, yep.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
And it I mean it.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Because those fans are about as loyal as it gets.
Well, they own the team, theyown the team.
The stadium just keeps gettingbigger and bigger.
It's tough to play there.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Sucks playing there.
Yeah, how many years did it gobefore they finally lost a
playoff game in Green Bay?
I think it was Vic.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
So I think, the Packers, the Eagles, but, I, I
like the in the Rams, we'llbattle it out and we'll see if
the NFC West or the NFC North,the NFC East, which is tougher,
you know, because that'llthat'll, that'll tell the tale

(35:48):
which divisions the toughest.
We'll tell you who, which oneof those teams gets the one seed
.
Yep, because and the afc is uhyou got buffalo yeah, buffalo
baltimore that looked like apossible afc championship
goddamn colts, watch out for theindianapolis colts daniel dimes
coming in, showing that we justneed a competent quarterback.

(36:10):
We have the physicality upfront, we have the running game
and taylor, we have weapons.
We just need someone not toscrew it up, and he, he stepped
right in yeah, because they looklike a totally different team
and then chargers, we'll seewhat they got tonight the
chargers yep, and that's in,that's out, that's out west

(36:31):
where the chiefs now are.
Oh and two, you have the broncosat two, and oh no no one, I'm
sorry broncos and I like thechargers out there well, but
we'll see they play the raiderstonight.
Yeah, this, this, uh, thiswhoever wins tonight is in
control of the division.
You could have the Raiderssitting pretty.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
But these division games are big.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Their division games are big, kansas City's 0-2.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
But their defense.
You're not going to count themout.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
The defense still looks the part they look like
they were able to handle Philly.
The problem is they don't haveweapons on offense anywhere, but
they they're physical stillyeah, they still got spags yeah,
still got spags and that's whyI said I I think this team's 10
and 7 yeah, that's the way Ithink they get worthy, they get

(37:24):
right, they're gonna gethealthier at the end of the year
.
They're still gonna be badteams.
Yeah, and they're not.
And I mean they played theChargers in Brazil.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Right, and then they played the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Freaking Super Bowl champs.
So, I'm not counting outMahomes and I'm not counting on
Andy Reid.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
No, I think they'll be in the playoffs.
I just don't, you know.
I think they might have to goon the road if they're going to
do it.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Oh yeah, no, you're not winning.
You're not going to win 15straight.
Yeah so, but those aren't thoseare losses that I picked them
to lose in in and those aretough losses in the nfl, like
you have to move.
That was almost like.
I mean notre dame.
I would not be shocked if theystill make the playoff.

(38:10):
They want to put Notre Dame in.
If they win out, they're in.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
They got some work to do on defense.
You know they play at Arkansashere in a few weeks and I know
Arkansas has lost to Ole MissJalen Brown, former FSU wide
receiver, the game-clinchingfumble.
Everybody just do your job.
That QB, that QB for Arkansasman.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
He's going to give them some prizes, just like the
A&M quarterback, notre Dame'sdefense.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
We've won in the SEC.
It's wide open.
This year it is.
It's going to be fun to watch.
I'm not going to lie, I'll tellyou who's not winning it.
I really enjoyed the tennesseegeorgia game.
It's texas.
Just seeing the emotion of teamother.
Like when it's your team I'vebeen there it's agony, but like
when it's someone else's team,it's it's fun to watch.
Yeah, sorry, like I don't haveanything against any fan base,

(39:08):
it's just like you get thoseshots of like.
Yeah, I know you do you getthose shots of like.
There was a shot of thetennessee fan.
He knew it.
Yeah, he knew it.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I'm talking about right.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, he's the big guy, yeah they showed him and he
could just the optimisms therein the back.
He's like no way, it's not.
Yeah, it's not it's not.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
I can feel it.
I know I've been here beforekirby's smart.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
He even admitted it after the game.
Tennessee deserved to win thegame.
You know, hey, chuck, I'mfeeling all tight.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Talking about Miss Kerba.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Miss Kirby.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Miss.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Kerba, miss Kerba.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
Looked like somebody's grandmacome chasing me, it's my
quarterback.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
No, no, no, no, all right man.
Good show today.
What yeah?
We had to go.
Our ride was here.
We got to go.
We got to get on out of here,though Our shuttle's here Before
we go.
We got two games tonightHardball Milksteak get your

(40:08):
Milksteak ready, get it ready,but it's not coming on until 10.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Before that I like this game in Houston.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Bucs Texans yeah, that'll be a good one.
Tampa Bay has never won inHouston.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
This might be their best shot.
We'll see if they can keepStroud upright.
Yeah, I think that's the beat.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
They can protect him.
I think Houston's going to be atough one for Tampa to win, but
you're right, the Bucs aretough, yeah, and they're going
to be in it because they got agunslinger.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
And they play in a shit division, although with the
Falcons looking better.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Falcons look better, yeah, but yeah, you're right,
it's those two teams.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, and you saw that in week one.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
That was a hell of a match and you kind of knew it.
They'll meet again and thewinner of that division will be
10-7 or 9-8.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
But whoever wins the matchup, they'll be hosting a
playoff game Yep At the oldSunburn Hotel.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Wait, didn't that change?
I don't know, I think thatmight have changed.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Good for them.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
But you should.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, I don't think.
I think it should just go tothe record.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Schedule, I mean, is already there Seven?

Speaker 2 (41:15):
and nine to Eposu playoff game no.
No, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
No, no, that's right, no, no no.
Well, we got Chargers, raiders.
Nah, that's gonna be A good one.
Yeah, I think it's gonna be Agood one, cause the Raiders they
got guys.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
That's gonna be A dangerous stadium To be at, man.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Those fan bases Do not like each other.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Right Got a reputation For being very punchy
.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
So yeah, that's gonna be be some good clips tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
All right, well, big week coming up.
Kent State as FSU gets back onthe gridiron.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Nick Saban's alma mater.
Yeah, we'll look forward tothat.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Miami and mater yeah, we'll look forward to that.
Miami and Florida facing off,we'll look forward to that.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
I think that shit's going to get ugly.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Yeah, and then a whole bunch more.
You're probably right aboutthat, but we'll talk about it,
we'll watch it and we'll talk toyou next time Right here on the
North Florida Sports.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Network.
We'll be right back.
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