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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Let me ask you one question.

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SPEAKER_02 (00:33):
Hey it is just another football bucket.
I got Jimmy Reno back again.
So we're gonna react to FSUMiami.
Dark Civinals are still rankedin the AP pool.

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A lot of crazy games.
They got some help with thatone.
Yeah.
Couple other teams dropped theball.
Oh, look at you, James Franklin.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, that's pathetic.
Florida.
They look good.
Sarkeegian.
Yeah, Texas might be on the hotseat.

(01:18):
They got Oklahoma next.
Uh it sucks to be an ArizonaCardinal fan.
I mean, or just a like.
Oh my god, that was.
I don't think there's ever beena team that lost a game that
way.
They suck.
That's the worst loss of theyear.
And that's one of the worstlosses of all time.

(01:41):
You don't all those thingshappen in the same game.
You drop the well, I guessdropping the ball as you cross
the goal line happens again.
You thought that since it justhappened last week, that coaches
would be like, hey guys, don'thave that.
But no, this guy hadn't had atouchdown all year.
Well, good coach.

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And he dropped the damn ballagain to ice the game.
Then they get a pick, fumble it,but lose it, and the team
recovers it with a touchdown.
Titans end up winning 22.
It happens when you stuck, man.
22-21.
That was insane.
That was a great throw by CamWard.

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To get him in range, but it was.
It was.
But goodness great.
That that's hard to believe.
There's no way that play everhappens again.

(02:43):
And then to have it have a guydrop the ball and then have that
crazy play in the same game isjust Yeah.
New ways to lose, man.
That's how bad it is.
But football Monday.
I want to get Jimmy Reno'sreaction to 0-2.

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3-2 Florida State.
0-2 in conference.

SPEAKER_01 (03:08):
Yeah.
For the fourth time underNorville.
Yikes.
In six years.
Yikes.
He's now 20-22 in conferenceplay.
Yikes, God.
For a reference point, FloridaState didn't lose their 22nd ACC
game until they had played their133rd ACC game.

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That was in 2008.
Yikes.
So it took 16, 17 seasons.
He did it.
He's done it.
He's done it in six.
Five.
Yeah, five and some change.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (03:44):
Wow.
Man, that's not good.
No, it's not.
It's really just.

SPEAKER_01 (03:50):
You gotta put it into perspective a little bit,
like Florida State was really,really good when they got into
the ACC.
Oh, yeah, you got a dominantprogram.

SPEAKER_02 (03:58):
And then COVID year, right?
I guess, man.
I mean, COVID year, you had it,but then you had an
understanding.

SPEAKER_01 (04:04):
I mean, taking over taking over for Willie Taggart
was probably bigger than COVID.

SPEAKER_02 (04:08):
It's just, but it's average.
And it's below average.
Yeah, it's below average.
And you started this year,you've made all the changes.
Now you're 0-2 in theconference.
You wanted you look forward tothis this time because the pit
game was the game you werecircling.

SPEAKER_01 (04:29):
Well, yeah.
I mean, I didn't I didn't expectto beat Miami.

SPEAKER_02 (04:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (04:34):
The uh the end, the fourth quarter, and them
continuing to to actually try.
That made that made the finalscore, but much closer than I
expected.
It that team gives up last year.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (04:49):
So, I mean, it's good to see them fight.
But Miami's defense wassomething, man.
And and I don't think they'regonna play a defense like that.
No, they won't.

SPEAKER_01 (05:02):
Um not in terms of pass rush.
Like there's nobody like likeBain.

SPEAKER_03 (05:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (05:11):
I don't think I haven't seen anybody in the
country that is better at theirposition than he is at rushing
the passer.
Um, he he he made impacts in therunning game.
That that yeah, that endedaround to Danzi.
Shit didn't work because theyhad to run around him every
time.

SPEAKER_02 (05:32):
I was back the offense the defensive
coordinator from Miami justreally he just got he was all in
great great game plan, theyexecuted it.
I mean, they knew what wascoming, yeah, they were
prepared.

SPEAKER_01 (05:47):
Well, I'm and yeah, it's it's not it's not hard.
Like you're gonna makeCasellanos have to beat you from
the pocket and he's not gonna beable to do it.
Because he's like five footfour.
Right.
Um his timing is not great.

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You know, some of those throwshe was late on, both
interceptions he was late andcomp just horrible decisions.
I can't see it.
Right.
The fumble, Chromo, he's afreshman, it's a big game.
Guy made a play on the ball.
You can kind of understand howthat happens.

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It's just that the timing of itand the situation was absolutely
brutal.

SPEAKER_02 (06:33):
And they made you pay with with uh just a dynamic
weapon in Tony.

SPEAKER_01 (06:39):
This kid, God, yeah, and that's 17.
Right.
When I say recruiting, and like,you know, you when you say like
we're texting back in Florida,you can't out coach recruiting.
Like, I'm not talking aboutstars on websites.
I'm talking about like this is akid that had actually
decommitted from Miami at onepoint.

(07:00):
You know, he was open, exploringhis options, getting other, you
know, Florida was hard afterhim, Florida State, Ohio, like
other teams coming after him.
Miami did what they had to do toget him back and keep him there.
And on the on the website, he'sa three-star, you know?
Really?
Yeah, he wasn't highly rated.
He's at the middle of the pack,three-star.
He's the best player becausehe's 5'10 and he didn't go to

(07:22):
camps.
Right.
If you would have watched him inhigh school and watched him in
the state championship gamewhere he had to play
quarterback, you could see thiskid moves differently than
everybody else on the field.
Like this shit is easy for himto where he can go and line up
at quarterback and make playsthere.
Man.

(07:42):
Three star.
Right.
Right.
And that's like that's whatMiami's done.
Yeah, they've gotten highlyrated talent, but they've also
managed to keep kids that arereally good at home.
Yeah.
For one reason whatever reasonit is.
You know, Reuben Bain was a kid,but you know, he's got family
connections to Miami.
He's got guys he's related tothat are on staff.

(08:05):
Like shit like that.
That's what they've done.
That's what FSU has not done.
Um there's no really indicationthat they're gonna get any
better than what we've done inthe past five years under
Norvell, which is you know,somewhere in the teens, you'll
get a few good players, but alot of the high school kids that

(08:28):
you get are gonna end up beingpushed out and transfers will
come in and take their spot.
And you're gonna have to justlive and die by that.
Um that's not gonna, you know.
Again, I didn't expect to beMiami's really good.
They're really, really good.
They're gonna be in theplayoffs, they're gonna win the
ACC.

SPEAKER_02 (08:48):
You got an AC, but then they have both both guys on
that on the team, with the otherguy that's beaten you as a
senior, right?
Right Daniels.
Yeah, and he's a transfer.
He's a transfer.
Right, he's a transfer.

SPEAKER_01 (09:00):
So um that like you gonna have to, but you need to
go out and get that that kind ofguy too.
You do, but you also have tolook at it on the other side of
the ball.
It's like, well, you know,nobody in the secondary did
anything.
The guy that was has been youryour best corner and and Jerry
Wilson was clearly outmatched.

(09:20):
Earl Little is you know 100%susceptible for the play fake,
which you saw time and timeagain.
And it comes down to like, okay,well, those are two transfers.
Like, what about the guys thatyou've recruited out of high
school?
You know, there's there's kidsthat were highly coveted that
have been here two, three yearsthat still aren't doing

(09:43):
anything.
Like, wouldn't that have beenthe time to kind of see it's the
across the board not being ableto identify talent?
Right.
Or if you do, not being able todevelop it.
Yeah, it's it goes hand in hand,and some of your some of your
guys end up really good.
You know, look, Randy Pittman'sprobably our best consistent

(10:05):
offensive weapon right now.
And that's a kid that was athree-star out of Panama City.
You know, and you you had himcommitted, and then you kind of
just let him dip and go to UCF,but you got him back.

SPEAKER_02 (10:17):
Um the recruiting stars are you have to get guys
that you gotta get footballplayers.
Yeah, you gotta get guys thatare good football players.
Right.
Exactly.
Number 10 was the best player onthe field.
He looked incredible.
He looked like Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (10:38):
I mean, he looked I was I was encouraged by you
know, some of the youngerplayers on the defensive line
actually standing up to thatO-line.
Yeah.
They they could just throw theball, but Yeah, the they did
just slow down the run.
Right.
And when Miami got up 28-3, uh,you could tell that Mario was
gonna try and take the air outof the ball and just grind

(11:02):
clock, not and the defensiveline kind of stood up to that to
some degree, which was promisingbecause they're young guys.
The Desert Twins.

SPEAKER_02 (11:10):
I mean, yeah, those Daniel Lyons, you know.
You got so you got Miami,though, who's they have a
transfer at center, but butthose guys are recruited from
high school.
Right.
Those those those road graders,dude.
And then the guys on thedefensive line.
Yeah.
Guys at high school.

SPEAKER_01 (11:28):
Those are Messador was a transfer, but he's been in
Miami for three seasons.

SPEAKER_02 (11:32):
Christoph knew you knew he was gonna do when he got
there.
He's gonna just recruit bothlines of scrimmage.

SPEAKER_01 (11:38):
Yeah, you have to.
Any way you can do it, you haveto add talent to your roster.

SPEAKER_02 (11:43):
The one time Norvell had a good team.
Well, he had two good teams.
And on both those teams, he hadJared Verse.
He had some goddamn cords.

SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
Get, then you gotta keep looking.
Well, you gotta swing for thoseevery year.
You look at how he got it.
Okay, Jared Verse was a kid thatnobody knew about, and all of a
sudden just turned into amonster in one offseason, and it
was it's as much luck asanything.
Like, hey, we're breaking downSyracuse film.

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Who's this kid for Albanyrunning down Syracuse running
back?
And then they got on him.

SPEAKER_02 (12:21):
And it it and you saw how much of a freak he is.
Right, right.
And not only a freak, it's justthe I think it's the football
player in him, like his drive.
Yeah, it's you have to find guyslike that.

SPEAKER_01 (12:33):
Right, and it rubs off on the rest of your team all
of a sudden, like a guy likeFisk wants to come and play with
that.

SPEAKER_02 (12:40):
So you can't fall like you got it if you see the
guy you want, and they I meanthey did it with Chroma, I
guess, at the running back.
I like the Desur guys.
You hope that they can keep it.
Yeah, there's young talent onthe team.
They got they got a nicerecruiting class so far.
Um what's okay, yeah.
So if there's any hope this yearor or for Mike Norvell, what do

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you need to see?

SPEAKER_01 (13:05):
Well, I guess you gotta define what what the hope
is.
Like not firing him.
Not firing him?

SPEAKER_02 (13:11):
Um not firing him and and being being okay about
you being like, I guess we canhave a shot.
I mean, not firing him isn'tgonna like that.
I mean, they went undefeated.
Right, right.
Right?
He didn't the injury was kind offluky.
The committee screwed him up.
Right, but that so he can do it.

SPEAKER_01 (13:32):
Yeah.
I don't I don't know if he canget that kind of talent on one
team again.
When you look at everything thatlined up, I I mean you you'd
have to find a kid that is youknow going under the radar at
pass rush, and it which isn'tgonna happen anymore.
You know, the the portal blewup.

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All these G5 schools, all theseFCS schools are being rated now
by every big program.

SPEAKER_02 (13:57):
Yep.
If you can play, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (14:00):
Jared Verse had maybe like Nebraska and
Tennessee was the competitionfor him coming out of the
portal.
You know, if you if it had beentwo years into the future, you
know, if he's coming out and say2024, dude, he's got every
single top program coming afterhim.
He's got the Ohio States, theOregon, he's got everybody
coming after him.

(14:20):
You know, if you can find aquarterback like Jordan Travis
that just discovers that he canbe an elite talent back there,
then yeah, that's great.
But again, it's kind of, youknow, he's not even the reason
Travis was at FSU.
All right, it's Kendall Bryles.
All right, well, um So I mean,in order to not fire him, like

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not he's not getting fired.
They don't have the money forthat.
Right.
You know, you're looking at like2028, 2029 before the buyout
even becomes reasonable.
So you gotta kind of adjust yourexpectations.
Like lower them.

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You hope for a season thatdoesn't go 0-2 to start the ACC.
Today I mean I think if theykeep some of the young talent
they got, then next year itcould be maybe better in that
regard.
Such a brilliant I think thesample size is big enough now to

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where he is what he is, man.
He's gonna be a guy that's a 500coach in the SEC or the ACC.

SPEAKER_03 (15:34):
Help!

SPEAKER_01 (15:36):
So six and six, eight and four.
He's gonna do about as well asyour producer's doing.
Yeah, I can't find it.
We are back.
I don't know, man.
We'll we'll see.
I mean, every week is gonna bewho who really knows what's

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gonna happen.
You got Pitt coming in.

SPEAKER_02 (16:01):
It's a must-win.
Yeah, I mean, you you you'dreally, really you don't want to
see three straight losses, butagain, this is what you could
see.
Yeah.
Well, anyway.
Pit's definitely good enough tobeat you.
They are, and it's a noon gamecoming off a huge game that you
had.

SPEAKER_01 (16:20):
Number one running defense in the country,
statistically.

SPEAKER_02 (16:23):
They started a a freshman last week, but he
looked like he's better thanwhat they had.

SPEAKER_01 (16:29):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (16:30):
So you're not gonna have a lot of tape on him.

SPEAKER_01 (16:33):
Right.
And I honestly I don't think itmatters about the opposing
quarterback.
What's gonna matter is canFlorida State score every time
they get the ball?
And if the answer is no, thenthere's a real big chance that
you can lose the game.
Because this defense is notgood.

SPEAKER_02 (16:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (16:54):
I best they can I just it was a well, I mean, this
this two weeks in a row whereTony White has cited alignment
issues as being their biggestproblem.
Again?
We are and that I'm kind of justsitting like, what the fuck are
you talking about, man?
You can't get lined up correctlytwo games in a row?

SPEAKER_02 (17:14):
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_01 (17:22):
Close?

SPEAKER_02 (17:26):
Try not to get too mad if they lose.

SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
That's what you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_03 (17:33):
Hey! Found it!

SPEAKER_02 (17:36):
Yeah, man, I you know, eight eight and four would
be pretty sweet.
That's what I said before theyear, but I'm telling you right
now, if eight and four is apossibility, here's what you
gotta do.
You gotta win this Saturday.
You gotta put this behind you.
You gotta stick with what thepositives are.
Yeah, you can't you can't loseanymore, Holmes.

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That's the effort.
Stick with the effort.
Uh need the defense to playinspired.
If they play as hard as they didagainst Miami, against Pitt,
we're gonna win.
I'll guarantee I'll say thatright now.
Yeah.
If they play as hard as they didagainst Miami, against Pitt,
they'll we will win the game.

SPEAKER_01 (18:16):
Yeah, they're but the offense can't turn the ball
over.
Right.
You can't have those turnovers.
Um you gotta find a way to get apass rush going.
Now, Pitt doesn't have theoffensive line that Miami does.
Yeah.
So you got to get some pressure.

SPEAKER_02 (18:30):
They don't have the running backs, and they don't
have the defensive ends thatMiami does.
So you should be able toestablish some sort of run game.
I know they have the number onedefense so coming in, but that's
against two.

SPEAKER_01 (18:43):
So Yeah, well, yeah, Louisville can run the ball.
That's one thing they've beenable to do.
But yeah, they haven't reallyplayed a ton.
Um I mean, they got beat by WestVirginia, so I'm not gonna sit
here and and act like Pitt is aworld beater, but you you know
You don't have the dudes.
We're not world beater.
Yeah, right.

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We're rally to win.
We're just your middle of thepack ACC team that can pull off
a shocking upset and then losefive games the rest of the
season.
You know, it it's it's kind ofwhat Mike Norvell is as a coach.

SPEAKER_02 (19:20):
I'm a this one has me scared in terms of I I I like
this team.
I still think it plays hard.
It's fun to watch.
I mean, I think the guy I thinkin score, I think Miami's
really, really damn good.
Yeah, they're good.
It's the what it's the it's theteam that is clearly the best
team that Miami's had in awhile.
But you shouldn't be able to getyou're not gonna face a defense

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like that.
That's a that's almost like apro defense, almost.
I mean, just this the way thetimes are the NILs and and
everything, and the stuff theywere able to add to what they
already had.

SPEAKER_01 (19:55):
Well, like I it's like I said last week when I was
saying it was a bad matchup.
It was you got a pass rushthat's with two weeks to get
prepared for it.
And a quarterback that does notdo well thinking on his feet,
thinking on the run.

SPEAKER_02 (20:08):
Well, you can the offense can still it can still
be explosive.
Um, it can still it should beable to run the ball and move
the ball against Pitt.
I'd like to see Castellanosthrow with more efficiency, no
turnovers.
So let's try to call a bettergame where he doesn't have the
opportunity to do that.

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Hopefully, maybe some quickpasses.

SPEAKER_01 (20:33):
If he if he puts it the film and and sees that he
probably should have taken whatthey were giving him.

SPEAKER_02 (20:38):
Just simplify the game.
You don't have if it's notthere, don't take it.
You can there's players on thisteam, get them the ball, let
them run.
Get them the ball, let see whatthey can do.
I mean, you're you can't try tobe the hero.
You can't run around and let'sif you're gonna run around, run
around and get down, or runaround and get out of bounds,

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and don't try to throw becauseyou're not big enough, and your
arm's not strong enough.
No, that that's yeah.
He doesn't have the like hedoesn't have a Kyler Murray type
arm.
No, he doesn't.
So like he doesn't have thatbaseball hose that he, you know,
that you see Murray have orWinston.
He doesn't have that.

SPEAKER_01 (21:15):
He can throw some nice passes, but you know, throw
it across your body deep intothe end zone.
You don't have it.
That's not gonna, yeah, it'snever gonna work.

SPEAKER_02 (21:24):
That's for the few who have the the rifle cannons,
and he doesn't have one.

SPEAKER_01 (21:30):
But yeah, this is a big game, man.
You you you want to win thisbefore you take that road trip
out to Stanford.

SPEAKER_02 (21:36):
Yeah, and then you have some games that you should,
should take care of business,and you want to see this team go
on a little streak.

SPEAKER_01 (21:45):
I'm saying you can't you can't lose the rest of your
home game.
Any any of them.
You got a rally here.
You got Pitt, you got Wake, yougot Virginia Taylor.
No more home games.
That's three left.
Yeah, three left, and I youcan't.

SPEAKER_02 (21:59):
And you gotta win the Stanford game on the road.
So there's your four ACC wins.
Yeah.
There's your 500 ACC seasonright there.
Right.
That's that's a minimum.
And that'll that'll that'slosing to NC State.
Yeah.
And that's losing to Clemson.
Clemson.

SPEAKER_01 (22:16):
And that puts you there at 24 and 24 on your
career in six years.
And four and four.
That's what your average is.
Yeah, 500.

SPEAKER_02 (22:25):
That's a big average.
And that's that's you gotta goon a streak to get there.
Yeah.
You gotta win.
Yeah.
You just gotta win those gamesthat you're supposed to win.
And and you know what?
You might be able you should beable to beat NC State,
hopefully.
You can learn from that, andmaybe you can sneak one in.
Florida's not looking like aneasy game.
I don't know if it's a lot ofthings.

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It's looking hard.
Yeah, the the I it just sothat's another loss.
So seven and eight and fourwould have to be you lose, you
have to beat NC State or Clemsonor Florida.
One of those games.

SPEAKER_01 (23:02):
Yeah, I mean, and he could really use it.
You you really need to beateither Clemson or Florida.
I I would say they're they'rebigger games than NC State.

SPEAKER_02 (23:12):
You're in the mode now where a rivalry game win.
Because if you lose to Floridaand Miami again and Clemson in
the same year.

SPEAKER_01 (23:23):
Well, Clemson and Florida both being down is down,
yeah, you know, wanting theircoaches fired and and gone.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (23:33):
But uh, you know.
What else?
What else, man?
Well, at least it's not JamesFranklin, though.
Whoo, goodness, man.
You talk about a buyout.
Oh my god.
They went and were the first winof the season for UCLA.

SPEAKER_01 (23:46):
That's the first time an 0-4 team has beat a top
10 team in the last 40 years.
It's insane how bad that was.

SPEAKER_03 (23:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (23:59):
Man.
Tim Skipper and old babyNewheisel put together a game
plan.
And they like they lit up thedefense.
That's the thing.
Like, Penn State's defense hasbeen carrying them all season.
Right.
That was that was shocking.
Texas losing in Gainesville.
You know, Sarkeesian's not anybetter than James Franklin when

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it comes to playing against.
You know, and Florida's notreally even any good, but that's
an embarrassing loss.
Oh, God, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (24:33):
I mean, it's really bad.
Florida, though, uh, getting abig win against Texas.
I mean, Billy Napier, you saw alook in two's eye.

SPEAKER_01 (24:42):
Oh, yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_02 (24:44):
Sure did.
Well, they finally got Dallasback.
The receiver.
Yeah, that helps.
You get a weapon back.
Some more reps.

SPEAKER_01 (24:52):
He didn't look as bad, but it it helps a lot when
the opposing quarterback isworse.

SPEAKER_02 (24:58):
Right.
The two most overrated players.
Looks like Arch made one goodthrow, but Texas man.
Yikes.
You're gonna play uh Oklahomanext week.
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (25:13):
So that could be you won't have to go up against
Mathir, but I mean you're gonnahave to go up against that Burnt
Vegetables defense, and that'sgood luck with that.

SPEAKER_02 (25:22):
All right.
Um so then you have the NFL andVikings won the early game.
That Buck Seahawks game was BuckSeahawks game was incredible.
Yeah, really great game.
Both quarterbacks were on fire.
Both quarterbacks were on theCarolina Panthers just a few

(25:44):
years ago.

SPEAKER_01 (25:45):
Well, both wide receivers were on Ohio State.
Yeah.
In Jigba and Egg Buka.

SPEAKER_02 (25:52):
Those guys are insane.

SPEAKER_01 (25:53):
They're both from both from Washington.
For the Bucs, man, he isincredible.

SPEAKER_02 (25:58):
Yeah, that's your rookie of the year right there
offensively.
Yeah, right now.
Um, and then the Bucs wereshort-handed.
You gotta you gotta tip your hatto the Bucks offense.
Baker Mayfield is playing lightsout.
And I'm telling you what, SamDarnold was playing really good.
He threw, they scored like fivestraight touchdowns.
Yeah, and they looked in sync.

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He looked like on in rhythm,making great throws, great
decisions.
And then there was aninterception, and it and it was
kind of a it hit off the helmet,and he was trying to throw it
down, so it was kind of thebright play.
Right.
It was that's what happens.
He seen as he throws, he'strying to throw it, and he's
that's what happens and he staysup because that was the
difference.
Otherwise, they probably go downand kick a field goal.

SPEAKER_01 (26:42):
Yeah, I don't think it is.
That was like on a first down.
I mean, the Bucks hadn't stoppedthem all.

SPEAKER_02 (26:46):
No, so both quarterbacks really played well.
I mean, the both retreads.
Yeah, I think you can find guysthat are in the league that can
still play that aren't playingright now, right?
That you should give shots to.

SPEAKER_01 (27:02):
Well, the Bengals owner isn't doing it, man.
No, he's not he's not giving anymoney to anybody.
Yeah, the guy sucks.
Yeah, he does, and you don'twant to go play for the Bengals.
Right.
That's why I think Burrow isjust like, you know what?
I'm gonna just hurt my toe herein week one.
This team's gonna suck.
I want Alfred.

SPEAKER_02 (27:19):
Mac Jones, man, he looks good.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (27:24):
I mean he did look good.
He was like with playing withnobody.
I'm gonna tell you right now, ifI'm Matt Stafford, I'm trying to
Rams are good.
I'm trying to fight Sean McVayafter that game.

SPEAKER_02 (27:34):
Yeah, that was a terrible call.

SPEAKER_01 (27:37):
I just threw one of the best throws of my 40-year
career across my body from theopposite hash to get down in the
room.
Yeah, and you're running intothe line.

SPEAKER_02 (27:48):
Right.
Uh, and but Sean McVeigh ownsit, and that's why he even when
he sucks, he's like, man, Isuck.
And I I'm gonna like so likeit's hard to get mad at him.
Yeah, that's why he's a goodcoach.

SPEAKER_01 (27:59):
You're sitting at first place in the division with
yeah, that that was such a teamimpressive win.

SPEAKER_02 (28:05):
Mac Jones was on fire.
I mean, he was getting rid ofthe ball, just leading his team.
They're better with Mac Jones.
Yeah, that's right.
I said it.

SPEAKER_01 (28:13):
Yeah.
This season, yeah, withoutquestion.

SPEAKER_02 (28:16):
I mean, you play paid Brock Purdy, and now you
got the guy that you should havedrafted all along when you
drafted Trey Lance.

SPEAKER_01 (28:25):
It's exactly how John Lynch's entire career as a
GM has gone.
It just somehow works out.
None of the guys he drafts anysense, right?

SPEAKER_02 (28:34):
But they still win.

SPEAKER_01 (28:35):
Right.
Because the people that do thework, the scouts that get the
you know, the rounds threethrough seven picks, they know
what they're doing.
Right.
No Pearsall, no Pearson, noJennings.
No Jennings, no, no kiddle, nokiddle.
No run game to speak of.
Dude, the offensive line ishorrible.
And he's just getting it gettingthe ball out.

SPEAKER_02 (28:56):
Yeah.
On time, very impressed by thatgame.
That started it out.

SPEAKER_01 (29:01):
We'll say Kendrick Bourne, the wide receiver, just
stepped up and had the best gamehe's ever gonna have in his
life.

SPEAKER_02 (29:07):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (29:08):
And that's that was that was another huge part of
it.

SPEAKER_02 (29:12):
Clutch.
And then Drake May, man.
Drake Drake May, yep.
I told I said that.
Uh the Bills look like they wereBills and the Eagles look like
they they were just waiting tolose.
They they both look like theyshould have lost.

(29:32):
Well, the Bills' defense sucks.
Well, they got Mike Brabell now.
Yeah.
And Mike Brabels, you know he'sgonna get guys that are tough.
Yeah.
And you gotta play hard.
And you knew that right goingin, it's just like, oh, the
Patriots are gonna be a tougherout.

(29:53):
Yeah, they're just gonna betougher because he's a tough
guy.
And it really makes you thinkthat man, Bill Belichick.
Dude, did you just like when howbad was he?
How much did he ever do?
He's a cheater.
Biggest fraud in the history ofthis.
He's a fraud.
I mean, he was on the back.

(30:14):
He wanted to get rid of Brady.
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (30:17):
Kraft openly admits now, and I I hate Kraft.
He's a piece of shit, but heopenly admits that he backed the
wrong guy, which is obvious.
It's like, dude, I should havejust sided with Tom.

SPEAKER_02 (30:26):
Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (30:27):
I said, Bill, you gotta get out of here.

SPEAKER_02 (30:29):
Should take a walk, buddy.

SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
Vrabel coaching with Brady?

SPEAKER_02 (30:32):
Yeah.
I mean, they three more SuperBowls.
I was just I was just thinkingthat.
I was like, how is it it's notBelichick because you could have
put Vrabel in his spot and theywould have been just fine.
Yeah.
In fact, he would probablyskipped a beat.
He would have left Brady alone.
Yeah.
Maybe just in fact helped him.

SPEAKER_01 (30:49):
I mean, he's dude, you yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (30:52):
Yeah, that's it.
And then see what he's doing nowin North Carolina.

SPEAKER_01 (30:55):
Oh, it's just it's already, it's already to the
point where they they they wanthim out.
Really?
The administration, every likeschool wide, they cannot stand
him or Lombardi.
And it just the little littletidbit on that, they had banned
the the UNC football programfrom tweeting out anything

(31:18):
Patriots related.
There was a uh you know, aprogram-wide mandate.
So there was nothing coming outof the UNC football program
about Drake May's win lastnight.
Any of it's not right, right.
And so when Pablo Torre, likewhen he reports on that early
this morning, there's a meetingcalled.

(31:39):
And so it's now coming from fromthe president, from from the
president of the university,they've now started tweeting out
about Drake May.
This is the kind of shit thatthat is you know that's going on
that kind of disconnect.
Right.
And it it it just goes to showyou, like, and you know, I I

(32:00):
sent you that that anonymousquote from the G5 coach that
couldn't believe they're gettingbeat out by North Carolina for
kids.
Like, why why are they, youknow?
He doesn't understand where heis in terms of the landscape of
college football.
Like thinking that you can goand just find kids.
Well, he was never good atrecruiting.

SPEAKER_02 (32:19):
I mean he's good at finding he was only the only
thing I can maybe give he's goodat finding deals in the NFL
based on maybe like good prosthat had bad personal situations
that you could get on a budget.
Right.
Like Randy Moss.

SPEAKER_01 (32:35):
Schematically obvious shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
And he's good at knowing therule book and how to skirt the
rules and what to do to gain ina competitive advantage.
That shit doesn't work incollege, man.
You're not dealing withprofessionals that have been the
best of the best, and this istheir career and their
livelihood.
You're dealing with kids thatman, I yeah, I play ball, but I

(32:56):
kind of ooh, Clemson needed thatgame.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a get right gamefor Dabbo.
I still don't think they're anygood, but whatever.

SPEAKER_02 (33:07):
Yeah, so the Patriots, they're they're
they're for real.
I mean, who isn't?
Seems like everybody's for real.
The Saints Well the Ravens suck.
Ravens are are god-awful.
Yeah.
Who would have thought my SuperBowl pick, which is terrible, in
the AFC, which was a lot of alot of people's Super Bowl pick.

SPEAKER_01 (33:28):
There's some shit in the locker room and and between
the coaches and players andthings like that that is that's
going on.
And I think it'll start to comeout more and more as it becomes
obvious that the season isalready.

SPEAKER_02 (33:41):
John Harbaugh, all of a sudden, a guy you wouldn't
ever put on the hot seat.
Uh you gotta put him on the hotseat.

SPEAKER_01 (33:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (33:49):
I mean, you're the head coach.
Right.
That was that was terrible.

SPEAKER_01 (33:53):
You're the head coach, you hired the defensive
coordinator, you're standingbehind that hire in the
defensive coordinator.
Ooh, that was bad.
They may have the worst defensein in the NFL.

SPEAKER_02 (34:02):
Oh, they do.
There's no maybe.
And it's they're like you'regetting 45 if you're playing the
Ravens.
Yeah.
That's not no, that's anaverage.
That's insane.
Yeah, it it's now they had a lotof guys hurt, but man, they
could have had Lamar at fullstrength, they would have lost
by 20.
Right.
I mean, they they they startedthe season off giving up 47
points.

(34:22):
Yikes.
Yikes.
And then the Bengals suck.
They they got nothing withoutBurrow.

SPEAKER_01 (34:29):
Yeah, nothing without I I don't know how good
they would have been even withthem.

SPEAKER_02 (34:32):
Yeah, because their defense sucks.
Yeah.
So Steelers, it's theirdivision.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean.
The Browns are going with arookie now.
Right, and they looked betterthan but still, he's a stopgap.
He's not dude, it's the Steelersdivision to lose.
Yeah.
With Aaron Rodgers, one one lastshot.

(34:54):
Um the Chargers, what the hell?
They're they're back to beingjust got their ass kicked.

SPEAKER_01 (35:01):
You saw the knock on Justin Herbert.
Yeah.
He's got everything that a good,great quarterback needs to have.

SPEAKER_02 (35:08):
I've never seen more love given to somebody who's
done less.
Right.
But he does look good and he istough.

SPEAKER_01 (35:14):
Well, he has his great moments.
Right.
But, you know, like and whenadversity hits, he just folds.
He turns into a pumpkin.
Because they they go her up10-0, 27-10 was the final.
Right.
10-0, and then you make a greatpad, and then your receiver
fumbles.
I say, okay, and then thenWashington gets on the board.

(35:35):
It's like, all right, well, wegot to keep generating it.

SPEAKER_02 (35:37):
Just thought that they would I was expecting uh
them to like battle back.
Kind of like they did.
Yeah, that they've that's two ina row now for them.
Um Jaden Daniel back on theCommanders.
The Commanders defense lookgood.

SPEAKER_01 (35:54):
Yeah, they're commanders look like a real good
team.

SPEAKER_02 (35:57):
Yeah, they'll be in it.
Um and the Eagles up 17-3 athome.
And they've and but they finallycame back to bite them.

SPEAKER_01 (36:08):
They should have been feeding Barkley the ball.
They've been screwing around allyear.
Yeah.
It's like, dude, that's you'reup 17-3 at home.
Good defense.
You gotta ride your horse.
Give the ball to Barkley.

SPEAKER_02 (36:24):
Broncos were able to come in there and get the big
win.
Um you got the Chiefs.
They'll be playing tonight inJacksonville.
That looks like a really funmatchup.
I mean, you'll be able tobecause you're gonna get a good
Chiefs effort tonight.
Yeah.
Jacksonville, they're for real.
Win this game.
Yeah.

(36:44):
Win this game.
You're at home.
You got$55 million quarterback,Trevor Lawrence.
You're going up against a gooddefense.
Win the game.
Let's see that uh win the game.

SPEAKER_01 (36:54):
Let's see that game-changing draft pick.
That revolutionary player thatyou traded your entire draft
with.

SPEAKER_02 (37:02):
This is a game he's supposed to win.
This is a game that they need towin.
But they won't.
They won't.
No, they won't.
Uh yeah.
And then that's it.
That's it, man.
Oh, is it right here?
Yeah.
It's here.

SPEAKER_03 (37:23):
We had to go.
Our ride is here.
We gotta show you.
The Yankees done.

SPEAKER_02 (37:29):
Now they're down 2-0.
2-0 to the Blue Jays.
There we go.
Ooh, Blue Jays are just knockingthe cover off the ball.
They got Vlad Jr., man.
Yeah, man.
Getting grand slimmies.

SPEAKER_01 (37:42):
I wonder if he showed up to his uh scouting
camp barefoot, like his dad did.

SPEAKER_02 (37:48):
He looked like he did some work in the office last
year.
He looks a little in bettershape.
But yeah, his dad was a freak,bro.

SPEAKER_01 (37:56):
Yeah, you heard the story, or he was wearing like
two different kinds of shoes,and he showed up, and
everybody's like, who the hellis this guy?
And he's hitting 500-foot bombs.
Bouncing balls.

SPEAKER_02 (38:11):
Yeah.
The Mariners tied the series.
Nice.
So that's tied at one.
Blue Jays up 2-0.
The National League will take.
We'll get back underway tonight.
They had a day off.
So you got the Cubs down 1-0 tothe Brewers and then the
Phillies down 1-0 to theDodgers.

(38:34):
In Philly, it was a rough 24hours.
You're up 3-0 on the Dodgers.
Yes.
17-3 on the on the Broncos.
End up losing both those games.
I'm not sad at all.
Couldn't happen to a nicer groupof fans.
But gonna lick the wounds.

(38:57):
20 and 22.
Oof.

SPEAKER_01 (39:00):
Yeah, it's rough.
The only thing about collegefootball this year is like
there's no need for a 12-teamplayoff.
There's like three good teams.
Right.
There's gonna be some bad teamsin there.
Yeah, really bad.
It just.

(39:21):
That conference is just such apile of bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 (39:24):
It really is.
It lobbyists.
Yeah, it's all it is.
It's lobbying.
It's all a bunch of lobbying.

SPEAKER_01 (39:30):
Well, how can we get Oklahoma and look at it?
He saw Vanderbilt lost.

SPEAKER_02 (39:35):
Yeah.
Oh man.
I mean, Alabama's shit.
Fuck ever.
Well, Lord State needs to tuneit all out.

SPEAKER_01 (39:43):
George's gotta be good.
They beat the shit out ofKentucky.

SPEAKER_02 (39:46):
Tune it all out and focus in on this new game.
Everything's riding on it.
That's how they gotta put it.
They need to get this ACC win.
They need to get the ballrolling on the rest of the year.
Yeah.
And start it off on a positivenote with this win before they
go on the road.
Right.
We'll watch them and we'll reactto them.
And we'll talk to you next time.
Right here on the North FloridaSports Network.

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