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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Let me ask you one
question.
SPEAKER_01 (00:30):
Hey, welcome back.
Miami triumph.
And that's why I'm going byMiami Confederator Justin.
You're in a 21 out.
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But uh Miami is with uh win28-22 over the gnolls.
Woo! Look, it looked like it wasgonna get worse for a second,
but the gnolls fought back inthe fourth quarter to make it at
least mathematically possiblewhere they had a shot.
SPEAKER_02 (01:16):
Almost the backdoor
cover.
I mean, yeah, almost backcoverage.
SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
Well, why didn't
they kick a field goal earlier?
They went for it, they went forit down 17.
I'm like, go ahead and kick thefield goal now.
It's a three-possession game.
SPEAKER_02 (01:28):
Dude, with that
field goal and backdoor cover.
SPEAKER_01 (01:31):
Right?
And then they would have had 20,it would have been at least
having given it a shot.
I don't know.
But I am hat I am.
That's my first reaction.
You know, we're watching thegame.
We're coming to you right afterthe game.
Is that other than the firstdrive, uh they should have
scored a touchdown.
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It was a terrible freaking call.
Non-call.
I get it.
Miami, they three and I thinkthe start of that game should
have been better for FloridaState.
But being that it as it is,Miami scored a touchdown, and
they the defense after thatopening drive completely shut
Florida State out in the firsthalf.
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And that was where I think theyreally established the game.
You know, the defensive endscontained Tommy and when it
mattered, and but credit to him.
I mean, he fought hard, but theyalso were a little desperate
throwing the ball, and he turnedthe ball over.
Three turnovers to zero forMiami, and that's the difference
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of the game.
SPEAKER_02 (02:38):
And those turnovers
came fast and furious in the
first half.
Right.
I I think Yeah, it was like backto back to back.
It was like turnover, big playfor Miami.
Turnover.
I mean, I uh like it.
SPEAKER_01 (02:52):
Oh yeah, that that
was 14-3 real quick.
That that that was that thatmomentum there where you got the
ball midfield and then hit it onthe hit it on the uh flea
flicker with the uh pass.
You got two really good widereceivers, Tony, the freshman,
goodness gracious, anotherphenom, similar to Williams at
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Alabama last year.
This kid's supposed to be inhigh school, yeah, and he's out
there just dominating on thefield.
He looks like he's Tyreek Hill.
Yeah, he looks really good.
And uh Danek Hill, dude.
Daniel's mocking the war chant.
He looks good too.
SPEAKER_02 (03:31):
Oh, God.
SPEAKER_01 (03:32):
Yep, you get the
receivers look good.
The um O-line looks good.
Uh the running backs.
Every everybody look at Miamidefinitely has better players,
and they won that game becauseof it.
Now, they did make and they andthey made a lot of penalties
too.
Like, so they they can work onsome stuff because Florida State
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stayed in it when it looked, itwas 28-3, and it ended 28-22.
SPEAKER_02 (04:00):
So that I mean,
right there should have been it
should have been much bigger.
Dude, like I texted you uh umlike in the third quarter, I was
like, backdoor cover.
SPEAKER_01 (04:10):
Well, yeah, I just
knew that they wouldn't do that.
Well, they kick a field goal atthe end, which is I guess I get
it, you gotta give yourself ashot to have the ball again.
But why didn't you kick a fieldgoal on fourth down whenever
you're down seventeen?
And you're in field goal range,just go ahead and make it
fourteen.
And make it even though they Ithink they got the fourth down,
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but it just didn't Yeah, theydid.
Um, but you know, credit toMiami, man.
This is like we like you said uhwith Chris the ball, he did what
he was trying to do.
He just loaded flood it, floodit.
SPEAKER_02 (04:46):
He tried to lose the
game.
SPEAKER_01 (04:48):
Well, yeah, but he
couldn't because his players
were too good in the first half.
SPEAKER_02 (04:52):
The players were too
good to the first half.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
This was this was
exactly as he planned.
What are you talking about?
He's like, you know what?
Watch this.
SPEAKER_02 (05:00):
I said it four I
said it four years ago.
SPEAKER_01 (05:03):
I know.
SPEAKER_02 (05:04):
Go back, go back on
the podcast.
I said it four years ago.
I'm like, in four years, CrystalBall will have enough talent
that he can't screw the game upwith a terrible coaching.
SPEAKER_01 (05:15):
Yeah.
Because it felt like it it couldhave been a lot better.
I mean, it could have been a itcould have been a blowout.
Florida State, to their credit,they fought hard all the way.
Castellonas was running for hislife the whole game.
I mean, Bain is a monster.
He really is.
I mean, they flagged Messador.
Messador is a monster, too.
SPEAKER_02 (05:37):
Messador, dude,
Messador became a late first
round pick in the draft.
SPEAKER_01 (05:42):
Oh, they they look
incredible.
SPEAKER_02 (05:44):
They uh Bain's top
five.
SPEAKER_01 (05:48):
They have draft
picks.
It's it's it's it's like theMiami.
It's ridiculous.
It's Miami, like you haven'tseen them since you know 25
years at the turn of themillennium.
SPEAKER_02 (06:03):
This is the best
Miami team in 25 years.
SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
Because well, yeah,
and Florida State fought hard.
I mean, it that that that winover Alabama is gonna people are
gonna say, I don't think that'sstill I still think they earned
the win.
Um but just shows you the Miamiwas up against a hostile
environment.
They responded because they havemassive offensive linemen, and
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they went and got really goodskill players, really good pass
rushers, and the tra and theyand they sprinkle in the
quarterbacks with the transferportal.
Because when you can dominatethe line of scrimmage, you can
sprinkle in those type ofpositions.
SPEAKER_02 (06:47):
And that's what
Miami has actually done really
well.
Um, is they've uh Crystal Ballhas built up the lines of
scrimmage through recruiting andthen sprinkled in these transfer
portal type guys.
And I I mean, because like yougot one receiver, CJ Daniels,
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and then you got another one uhnot Kadarius Tony.
SPEAKER_01 (07:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:14):
You know, one is a
sudden freshman recruit, one is
a transfer senior.
You know, like Miami's been ableto mix up the recruiting and the
NIL transfers really well.
SPEAKER_01 (07:28):
Right.
And the the freshman receivermight be the he's the best one.
I mean, that kid is on thatkid's unbelievable.
SPEAKER_02 (07:35):
That guy dude dude,
the second touchdown he scored.
You knew he was um not the yeahdude, the second touchdown he
scored.
I remember I dude, I waswatching it as it happened, and
it it was like a little in-cut,like a 12-yard in-cut route.
And it was on like third andeight.
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And I was like, all right, good.
SPEAKER_01 (07:57):
Well, that was the
difference of the game.
SPEAKER_02 (07:59):
And I was like, oh,
first, wait, wait, wait, wait.
No, no, no, no, there he goes.
SPEAKER_01 (08:03):
Those two guys,
those two guys, you got two,
those two guys right there,Daniels and Tony.
If you look at Beck's numbers,he's damn near perfect throwing
to both of those guys.
So you got a huge O-line.
Now let's just move move aheadbefore we can get off this real
quick.
Um, Miami's gonna be favored therest of the way.
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Uh, this, I think, was theirtough, this was their toughest
game.
SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
But I'm worried
about the letdown against
Louisville and J.
SPEAKER_01 (08:32):
Well, Louisville
lost to Virginia.
And now um now they will haveit, they will have a target on
their back.
I mean, because they're they'renow they're the clear favorite
in the ACC.
Everyone's gonna be looking atthem, and you have some teams
that are not playing them in theconference, like Georgia Tech
and Virginia.
So you don't you don't havereally any room for error where
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you if you lose one, you mightbe left out of the Charlotte
talk.
Yeah.
So and then and then whathappens?
So so I think you have to, ifyou're a crystal ball, you gotta
keep the urgency on andhopefully Miami fan.
SPEAKER_02 (09:11):
We gotta we gotta
play perfect moving forward.
SPEAKER_01 (09:14):
Well, I I think I I
don't think it's gonna be a
problem.
I think if it's if the teamstays healthy, especially on the
defensive line, it's just toomuch.
It's too much.
They got too much on the bothlines of scrimmage.
And that's where he's built it.
That's what he's known to do,and he did it.
So let's see if he let's see ifhe let's see if he can screw
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this up.
This would be the ultimate screwup.
SPEAKER_02 (09:41):
Because I think I
still foresee Miami going 11 and
1.
SPEAKER_01 (09:47):
Alright, well we'll
see.
Yeah, I know you called thatearlier.
SPEAKER_02 (09:51):
I think Crystal Ball
screws up a game randomly.
SPEAKER_01 (09:56):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (09:56):
Well, uh And we've
got like we got like four row
games left to close the season.
I think it's line up.
SPEAKER_01 (10:06):
He's got good
coordinators.
I I know I've said I was like Iwas bullish on the coordinator
hires for FSU.
And you know, they were beatentonight.
And that's thanks to therosters, but also you gotta give
credit to the defense for Miami,they were prepared to to hold
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in.
Now a couple plays were close,but that's the game, you know,
and I think they they had theyheld Florida State intact.
You know, and I think FloridaState they battled hard, they
looked outmatched, and theylooked like they just gave
everything they had.
If Mike Norvell wants to win,he's gonna have to add those
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difference makers like they hadtwo years ago.
You gotta get those Bain guys,you gotta get those Jared Verse
guys, those uh Bud, you know,the Brendan Fitzgames.
SPEAKER_02 (10:58):
There is a couple
you know, you gotta get there is
a couple there is a couple ofthose guys on Florida State,
though.
Um Deuce Robinson and the uh KidPittman, right?
Those guys are pros.
SPEAKER_01 (11:10):
Right.
Oh yeah, there's guys there, andthat's that's what I I really
like to see the fight in thefourth quarter.
You know, I know Miami probablytook definitely know they did,
knowing Christopher, theydefinitely played it safe.
But Florida State battled hardand they made it interesting,
and this team definitely laysdown last year and gets their
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ass kicked, but they came backand someone's gonna be like, oh,
it's 28-22.
And and I you know, I know Isaid it all year, it matters how
you lose.
And the way they fought back, Ithink is a good sign because I
want to talk about Florida Statenow.
Um the rest of the season,you're 0-2 in the conference,
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and that's really bad.
If you looked at if you lookedat the beginning of the season,
if you were three and yeah, winout, just win out.
You're three and two though.
That's where that's where youprobably expected it.
Right?
SPEAKER_02 (12:07):
You you be win if
you win out, you got a shot in
the conference, because you knowMiami's gonna lose one.
We're gonna lose the NPT or somestupid shit.
SPEAKER_01 (12:16):
Yeah, there's no
chance of winning.
Don't worry about don't worryabout winning the conference.
Just just win it win next week.
I want to see I want to see theeffort on the noon game.
I want to see them coming outback against Louis.
Yeah, I want to see them nothey're playing, yeah.
You guys playing, you guys haveanother buy.
Okay.
So we we don't we got a while.
You guys just revel in this fora while.
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Okay, I mean you're five and oh,you're five and oh Miami, Miami
should be number one.
Miami should be number one.
I I agree.
SPEAKER_02 (12:44):
Best team in the
country.
SPEAKER_01 (12:45):
I agree.
Um, but Florida State now, whatI would like because they play
next week at noon against Pitt.
SPEAKER_02 (12:53):
See, I want to see
Florida, I want to say, I want
to see Florida State rip offlike six consecutive wins.
SPEAKER_01 (12:59):
I do too.
And I think this would uh Ithink that's what everybody
wants to see is how they'regonna respond.
I know that's what Jimmy haskind of been foreseeing is this
this h it happen.
And and you know you gotta givecredit to Miami.
But the rest of the year youshouldn't it it puts you
shouldn't lose Virginia.
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I know they beat Louisvilletoday in overtime.
You shouldn't have given up 46points to Virginia, and and
we'll see how the effort isagainst Pitt, you know, and see
if they can get eight wins.
Because you lost two games.
You only won two.
I know you got 11 new starterson offense.
So how you how you gonnarespond?
SPEAKER_02 (13:40):
Yeah, I mean, dude,
we talked uh we talked about it
um before the season started.
We thought Florida State was aneight and four team.
Yeah seven and five, eight andfour.
Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:50):
They got their
upset, and it's now it's about
you gotta keep can't let thewheels fall.
SPEAKER_02 (13:55):
Win the games you're
supposed to win.
SPEAKER_01 (13:57):
Right, and next week
is I think is the start of a
where you have to have a winningstreak because you're about to
rack up some opponents that youshould be.
And you should get somemomentum, get that record going,
get bowl eligibility before youeven hit Raleigh in in
Gainesville.
That would that's what I wouldsay.
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Yeah, because you hey you don'twant you don't want the uh you
don't want to go to with fivewins, five wins games, yeah.
You don't want or roll becausethey have Raleigh, you have
Raleigh on a Friday night, andthen they end in Gainesville.
That's a loss.
And they end in Gainesville whojust beat Texas and looks like
uh Billy Nippy.
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Yeah, Billy Nippier's making hisannual turn of the tide.
They're definitely going to dothat.
SPEAKER_02 (14:51):
Yeah, now and now
Miami beating Florida looks even
better.
SPEAKER_01 (14:55):
Miami says three
straight ranked wins.
Uh credit to Miami.
Uh, they just have to keep doingwhat they're doing.
Um, Carson Beck being efficient,don't turn the ball over.
That's what's gonna kill you.
We said it all week.
That's what FSU needed.
And Miami, Miami got exactlyMiami did exactly what FSU had
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to do.
They they flipped it on him withI mean, right there in the
second quarter, where there wasa pick, and then they had or a
fumble, and then they hit himwith the the the flea flicker,
the pass back, and it and it wasa great throw, great call.
And they got up 14-3, and thatkind of that was it for the
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first half, but then the secondhalf they came out and just
really put their foot on thethroat in the third quarter.
SPEAKER_02 (15:48):
Um, got up 20 that
that's where Chris the ball um
didn't totally crystal ball, wasthe third quarter.
The third quarter, we really didput the foot on the throat, and
then the third.
Florida State the last the lasttwo games.
SPEAKER_01 (16:03):
The last two games,
Florida State's been really
outmatched in the middle of thegame.
And it was uh definitely thestory that was just clearly the
story of this game.
I mean, they did they won thefourth quarter, clearly, but it
would they were down 28-3.
So, I mean, they did fight back,and it was good to see because I
think Miami was going for thethe the blowout as much as
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Christopher would allow.
But it was good to see you fightback.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it yeah, itdoesn't matter.
It's all about it's all aboutthe response.
We'll see what F issues made of.
SPEAKER_02 (16:40):
Actually, actually,
you know what it's all about?
It's all about the you.
SPEAKER_01 (16:48):
That's right.
It is, it is.
Yeah, yeah, you got it, man.
I got uh oh man, I lost them.
It's 28-22.
I think it should have beenworse.
So credit for FSU for frying.
I think it was this win forMiami is a win on the recruiting
trail.
Um where you don't have thedudes that Miami does for state.
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And that's what you need on theroad.
You need dudes like Bain.
He's a monster.
SPEAKER_02 (17:20):
You know our
smallest offensive lineman was
our center, and he is 6'2, 295.
Yeah, the O-line's.
Our smallest lineman.
SPEAKER_01 (17:29):
O-line's huge.
SPEAKER_02 (17:30):
It's insane.
SPEAKER_01 (17:31):
Well, five and oh
for the canes, one and oh now in
the ACC, three and two for theknolls, oh and two in the ACC.
So it's a there's a lot offootball.
There's a lot of football to beplayed.
SPEAKER_02 (17:46):
I think the knolls,
I think the knolls got something
left for the rest of the season,though.
I better.
All right.
I mean, dude, dude, the uh thethe Castellana's scrambling
would have been such a nightmareif the game was closer.
SPEAKER_01 (18:04):
Well, yeah.
Yep, but you can't throw thepicks, and that's what he's done
the last two last two games.
He's done that.
He put himself in a in a deficitthe last two weeks, and it's not
it's not enough.
It's definitely the defensefought harder in this game, but
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the opponent was better, soyeah.
SPEAKER_02 (18:28):
I know Castellanos
was good and bad for y'all
tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01 (18:32):
Yeah, he was a
Castellanos type of guy.
You know, he's an eight capableof winning a game, but he's also
not gonna do that usually.
SPEAKER_02 (18:43):
Like Johnny Poball.
He's lose you a game, win you agame.
SPEAKER_01 (18:48):
He's not gonna win
the highest.
SPEAKER_02 (18:50):
Well, I don't know
if he's shorter.
I mean, Johnny Puball was prettyshort.
I mean, he was a lot better, buthe was short.
SPEAKER_01 (19:01):
Like a like 4 state
out game, Miami 404 to 338, 272
yards passing, 132 yards on theground, but Miami was efficient,
uh 5.7 yards per play, beforestate of 4.9.
First downs, 28 first downs toMiami's 14.
A lot of that was on the last inthe fourth quarter.
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5 of 14 on third down forMiami's 7 to 16.
So 2 3 on fourth down, 3-4, butit total plays 83 to 59.
Florida State had the advantage,but 5 punts to 4 punts, but
there it is right there.
Fumbles lost, 0 for Miami, 1 forFlorida State, interceptions
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thrown, 0 for Miami, 2 forFlorida State.
Time possession, pretty muchright down the middle.
So I mean, if you looked at thisgame, you're like, oh, Florida
State, I gained it, but they'redamn sure they turned the ball
over, so they had to turn theyprobably got some garbage yards,
and they did.
SPEAKER_02 (20:04):
And it was
meaningful yards were not
meaningful.
SPEAKER_01 (20:08):
Right, that's what I
meant.
Like my Miami Forest systemyards.
Miami forwards.
SPEAKER_02 (20:17):
Right.
And then for they racked up abunch of goddamn stats at the
end of the game.
SPEAKER_01 (20:22):
Well, hey, when you
lose, you need to look for any
type of uh victory you can.
So I'm if I'm an FSU fan, I'mlike, damn it, man.
At least we need to clean it up.
Alright.
We'll watch it again, probablyreact to it again, and we'll
talk to you next time, righthere on the North Florida Sports
Network.
SPEAKER_02 (20:44):
I'm goddamn mannered
shit.
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
And you should be.