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Hey it is just another footballMonday Another sad Monday
another sad football Mondaythey're all seemed to be the
same these last two years as FSUgoes to 0 3 man we still had
week one though didn't we?
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Yeah we did wow just keepreplaying it it was great uh
ready James Franklin is out atPenn State he's rich feel rich
like 50 million man yeah 49.8good god what a he's my hero
$20,000 a day don't feel bad atall man no I think you once you
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lose to uh Oregon you're likeyou know what watch this right
like this is ridiculous I'm notdoing this I'm not gonna sit
here and try yeah because theylost to Northwestern and UCLA
now Bellers out for the year youknow what after watching UCLA
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this past weekend kick the shitout of Michigan State I just
gotta look at it and be like manmaybe it's just bad timing maybe
they they played UCLA a week toolate I mean like Clemson's
getting in together wait tillFlorida State travels up there
that'll be Dabulous Swan songright there that's gonna be it's
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gonna be telling everybody buystock in Clemson football dude
oh yeah oh yeah oh god what thehell man we're gonna have to go
over what what the hell is theplan out of this if I don't
think Florida State can affordwhat Penn State did and I think
that's just well no I mean theyowe them$10 million more yeah
yeah they owe them more and theyhave less money yep they're not
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in a contract with the Big Tenthey're not they're not getting
Big Ten NBC CBS all kinds of netthey got every network on the
payroll right the SPN's notgiving them any money say what
the So it's different it'sdifferent and uh it's you're
stuck also notable is Penn Statejust signed a huge huge deal
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with Adidas to be their theirnew uniform outfitters well we
know how Adidas grows right nowthey're denying that they're
gonna help pay any of the buyoutbut yeah right come on right bro
like the shoot like Adidas andNike and this is all what this
has come down to the recruitingis now a war of corporate ties
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yeah and where are you line upagainst and I hear Jordan Travis
saying well FSU needs to back upthe Brinks truck and pay these
recruits and it's like well okaywell where's the where's that
coming from right well we don'thave is Nike gonna back it up
here no because they're gonnapay Oregon well we're we're
backing up the Brinks truck toto pay the guy that still
wouldn't be able to get therecruits.
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Yeah Jordan right that that'sthe reality of it I mean I I
totally get him backing his guyand but it it's just not
happening and you gotta look youyou I just don't see a way out
of it.
36 and 30 is his overall recordI mean he's lost he hasn't won
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an ACC game since September of2024 against Cal in a game that
he shouldn't have won.
SPEAKER_02 (03:51):
Yeah that that's his one win.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
Yeah and you look at last year it's offense this year
it looks like it's defense.
SPEAKER_02 (04:00):
Even Cal has managed to put a team together that can
win ACC games.
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Right um so it's just mind boggling.
Right everything about it it'smind boggling how can you
because you know I was watchinglook at Indiana did you know
just went up to Oregon and wonand it's like what the hell is
this guy doing in Indiana?
SPEAKER_02 (04:24):
Well yeah what is he doing?
Well he's yeah yeah he'scoaching he's coaching he's
coaching he's been around bigtime he's been around he's been
around this is a guy that wasthe the recruiting coordinator
and and quarterback's coach forPhillip Rivers at NC State for
Chuck Amato I mean theexperience of of everything it
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takes to be a big time footballprogram is something you have to
learn as you're coming up as anassistant coach.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (04:58):
A guy that came up under Todd Graham at Pittset the
ear the wire headset coach airtraffic controller yeah oh my
you're right man I was justgonna say I mean this guy
Kignetti or Signetti he's thereand he just tells you what how
he's doing it too it's just hardwork and I and what's Norvell
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doing I mean I I know he'sworking hard but what's he he's
not his the substance islacking.
Maybe it's just more justrah-rah crap.
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
I think that I think that's that's all there is is
just hard work.
You know you you go back whatwhat Lovett said when you were
interviewing him a few years agothe work never changes what they
were doing never changes.
So you you kind of break thatdown it's like well he he's not
gonna change anything he's notgonna out scheme and body change
though.
Right.
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You have to relate to yourplayers you can't have less
talent and think that you canjust do the same thing and get
the same results.
Right.
It's it's big picture kind ofthing.
SPEAKER_01 (06:01):
What's the plan each week?
Like what's what's it going totake to convince these players
to have that mindset and I Ithink I was one of the things
that struck me when I waslistening to him after the
Oregon game was him saying hehad a really good feeling just
on he said you never know howit's gonna play out until the
game happens which is true butonce it started he knew his
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players had the confidence theyknew exactly what they were
going to do.
They weren't going to get theywere in a lot of that stuff you
hear Mike Norwell saying you gotto keep an even keel and right
it was there for the Alabamagame right but it's not been
there since where do you findthat each week yeah is that
that's the problem here.
SPEAKER_02 (06:45):
It is I think the the biggest most immediate
problem that's gonna be thereason why you lose games this
year is that you have adefensive scheme that requires
players to do things that noneof the players on your roster
can do.
Yeah and for me as a head coachlike you got to be aware of what
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you have and what you'rebringing in.
And and you know I don't evenlike I Willie Taggart was full
of shit in everything that hesaid.
But one thing he did say whenwhen people would ask him about
you know what what's your staffgoing to look like is it you
know it's about finding guysthat fit our personnel and being
able to run now he didn't rightmanage to achieve that with his
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hiring but like this kind ofwhat we're talking about with
Tony White.
SPEAKER_01 (07:34):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (07:34):
When you have a scheme that is reliant on
linebackers being able to domultiple things yeah you know
drop into zone coverage beingable to to play to spy a QB and
know when to attack and when tojust stay home like it dude
watching the all 22 of that gameon Saturday was sad.
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They're clueless.
Yeah that's why you have themiddle of the field open all the
time because the linebackers arenot doing anything that they're
supposed to be doing.
The defensive line can't set anedge because you don't have edge
setters on the defensive line.
You don't have the personnel torun a three man front so yeah
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that you know I I would love toblame it all on Tony White and
dude you got to figure out a wayto do it but this is a guy who's
run the same scheme everywherehe's been yeah so but that's
what he was brought in here todo.
Right.
But if you're Mike Norvell islike why exactly am I gonna
bring a guy in that needsplayers I don't have right to be
successful.
SPEAKER_01 (08:36):
Because I'll tell you it seems like with even last
year's defense with this year'soffense.
SPEAKER_02 (08:44):
Yeah oh without question without question dude
you could have kept Adam Fullerright and kept the guys that you
have and and let him get anotheryear with the same personnel and
and all that and you probablyare not sitting any worse than
four and two.
Like you may not beat Alabamabecause they know what defense
you're gonna run.
SPEAKER_01 (09:02):
They might have the element of surprise got you that
win but it's got you also behindthe eight bar the secrets out.
SPEAKER_02 (09:10):
The secrets out they know every team we play players
right every team we play isgoing to put the running backs
against the linebackers in thepassing game and that's going to
be mismatch city every singletime any team with a mobile
quarterback is going to manageto you know as soon as I see man
coverage as soon as I seeeverybody bailing out I'm taking
off for 15 20 yards a chunk andit again it comes down to if we
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can score every time we get theball I mean there was we might
be able to win.
SPEAKER_01 (09:38):
I mean there was a play where the guy we haven't
backed up and was it BlakeNicholson yeah just runs right
like that's not your that's justnot that's not a bad call no
it's actually the right callright call you got a linebacker
there spying the quarterbackkeeping him in the pocket for
some reason.
So why bring in that defensewhen you have when you should
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know as a coach that your guyscan't execute it.
SPEAKER_02 (10:00):
Right and and also like what's going on with the
linebackers like why is a guyNicholson who's been in a he
should have waited back youdon't need to rush that line
you're right you stay at thatline of scrimmage and you and
you follow him up because you'rethe only man out here in this
space.
SPEAKER_01 (10:19):
And he ran in and got trapped because yeah the
quarterback's running to hisright there's that's three
defensive linemen to his righthe's not running that way if he
does he's getting three yards soall right so that that has me
thinking all right obviously youneeded something you have to you
have to stay the course nowthat's the that's the sad part
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you gotta have to fight throughit.
Yeah can't afford to hiresomeone else now in terms of
this guy I think you're right Ithink this is what you get now
but what you get is a hope ofmaybe he can piece it together
one of these years and that'swhat you're dreaming for is
another 2023.
SPEAKER_02 (11:02):
And it's just gonna be surrounded by a bunch of crap
and a bunch of frustratingthings but well unfortunately
that's what you got to have toplay to I mean I don't know I'm
just trying to I think the thetheory that's been out there on
the internet the last 18 hoursof how you approach 2026 is is
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probably pretty on the head isthat you know this recruiting
class this high school class youit doesn't matter you know
they're gonna go all in on theportal.
You have to it's like once youdid that you have to live and
die by it.
SPEAKER_01 (11:36):
Right because you got a much tougher schedule um
you're it's your only chance ofsurvival is going eight and four
nine and three next year and youknow you're not gonna do that
basic high school right you'reyou're always playing catch up
and that's what you pretty muchhave to do and to get better in
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that in that type of systemyou're gonna have to not only
you're gonna have to keep payingand you're gonna have to keep
ponying up and out outbid theseschools because you're gonna
you're going to have to get theplayers that Ohio State wants
you're gonna have to get theplayers that Miami wants.
Well you're gonna you're gonnahave to overpay this year.
You're gonna have to overpay.
You're gonna have to be the onegoing out there and say that top
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whatever change regardless ofwho you get no at coach.
SPEAKER_02 (12:21):
No long term no like it you know you go in all out in
the portal next year to go into2026 you're right back in the
same boat 2027 that you werelast year.
But you want them gone yeahbecause you think that there's a
somebody better that can getplay just get the baseline of
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players the talent level higheris is that why or I think
there's there are people outthere like I honestly the next
coach I don't give a shit whathe does X's and O's or like I
just want somebody that re canrecruit top notch talent at the
high school level and that'swhat you got to do.
SPEAKER_01 (13:00):
Be able to consistently do it.
And that's how you win well it'show you you know what Mike
Norvell does is not sustainablelong term.
Right.
I believe like the fact thatClemson wasn't doing the
transfer portal thing everyone'slike whoa look what but what
they were doing was stillrecruiting.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
What they needed to do was add like a lot is made a
lot is made about the transferportal Miami did what Clemson
wasn't doing was competing inthe NIL.
Right.
So in high school and you looknow their high school recruiting
has fallen off significantly youknow like they were never up
there at always number one ornumber two but they were in the
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top 10 they were getting tons ofdefensive linemen which is
really important.
They managed to get twogenerational quarterbacks back
to back that's also a huge helpbut you know you you you got to
pay these kids right and ifyou're gonna pay portal players
you got to be prepared to do itevery year and you're gonna have
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to be the one overpaying everyyear.
SPEAKER_01 (14:04):
You can't think you can switch it up you know middle
of the road because then you getstuck so is there a is there a
coach out there that with thislandscape with the giant down in
Miami with the I know NIL thatthey have with the you know
who's gonna come and get playersto leave down there and come
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here for less money.
SPEAKER_02 (14:28):
Well it it you know there's there's I I shit I don't
know those days are done manright it's as much about being
able to identify talent that'sanother thing is yeah you're
gonna have to find those guysyou're gonna have to do it the
hard way there are a sizablenumber of misses under Mike
Norvell from the high schoolranks.
SPEAKER_01 (14:47):
Yep you know you look at Hakeem Williams who was
you know great you signed a fivestar wide receiver but yeah
Hakeem Williams was a five starand then Tony from Miami was
three star.
Boom there you go right likethat doesn't mean anything you
have to be able to you have tobe able to I get to be able to
tell the difference in thoseguys that's what you're paid
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for.
Yeah that's what we haven't seenat all back when Mike hasn't
done that at all.
It doesn't happen.
Every big recruit he's gothasn't done crap on the field.
Right.
Nothing there's been nothing youknow you you paid a lot of money
for a kid like Charles Lesterand he's made zero impact the
best out of all the kids Norvellhas coached or has recruited
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from the high school ranks whohas you got one success your one
success story is is Az Thomaswho got drafted.
SPEAKER_02 (15:42):
Yeah that that's your one guy he got he got good
that's your one guy and and yougot him because the other three
schools dropped the ball youknow they fired what's his face
at Florida Dan Mullen you knowthere was a coaching change at
LSU Brent Venables went toOklahoma.
So all of a sudden he's got wellthis is the only kind of stable
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place so let me go there.
Yeah but that's it and you whatlike arguably the best player on
offense right now is Danzi kidthat just is true freshman.
SPEAKER_01 (16:15):
Yep you got lucky because he's a local kid well I
was just gonna say you got yougot Danzi I mean you got chroma
right you overpaid for chromathat's what you're gonna have to
do.
Right.
You're gonna have to keep doingthat you're gonna have I like
the DeSur guy the the twinsthose are your I mean you have
to just almost double down thankGus for those guys.
It's gonna yeah well I need Gusto stay for another year
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recruiting.
Yeah I mean we're gonna we gotto double down on that and we're
gonna have to hopefully get someguys to fit the system of Tony
White and just try better.
Yeah and hopefully and hopefullyjust cut we go on a streak end
it similar to 2022 you know youhave to just you know galvanize
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the locker room stay together Idon't care what it takes when
you got a you got a winnablegame the next two should be
winnable I don't know if I don'tI don't know if I'd call Wake
Forest winnable.
Right you're not gonna do itbecause you got to go to two
Clemson you got to go to Floridayou got to go to NC State.
Right.
There's nothing that says thisteam's gonna be able to stop any
of those teams.
SPEAKER_02 (17:19):
No there's there I mean this is your last on paper
a winnable game.
SPEAKER_01 (17:24):
Right.
So um I still say you got tomake a bowl otherwise I want
them out.
But so we'll see if the six windream yeah well Indiana beat
Oregon that was the biggest winthey're number three now um Ohio
State has the defense this year.
It's almost like last year wasoffense this year it's defense.
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This year it's defense.
I mean just look at the NFL Imean look at the receivers the
best receivers in the NFL arelike the rookies out of Ohio
State all of them that that's athat's a guy I would I don't
think that Florida State couldever entice to leave Ohio State
but I mean if you want somebodythat's just going to be able to
identify talent that hasexperienced recruiting heart
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line yeah yeah in the state ofFlorida but again I I doubt he's
leaving Ohio State anytime soon.
Oh they're pay yeah they doeverything you want as a coach
right like they support youfully they have all the money
you need making two milliondollars as an offensive
coordinator there's no reason toleave if he ever wanted to leave
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it would be for something egowhere he like maybe at the NFL
level or if he wanted to get a ahead coaching job he just waits
till Ryan doesn't want to be ahead coach.
He's not leaving he ain'tleaving nowhere this is the best
job you can get in terms ofunder the radar none of the
pressure I mean this is kind ofwhat Mel Zahn signed up for.
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It's like I'm done with all thiscrap.
I want to go back to just callhim ball plays.
Yeah call him calling plays Idon't I mean to deal with any of
the head coach bullshit I meanthe offense didn't do crap after
the second half though.
No they didn't I mean you knowbut they were they're out all
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they don't have 31 points 31points has got to be enough to
win you a game.
Yeah it does no exactly I meanit seems like this year's team
is going to be suffering fromthe defense as opposed last
year's team suffered from theoffense.
Right.
Hopefully it won't be as bad.
I mean it won't be because youalready got the win against
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Alabama and you already gotthree wins you're technically
better than last year.
SPEAKER_02 (19:36):
But that means it's already just all downhill from
here then yeah man and you'restill better from that listen
you you go out this next weekendand lose in Palo Alto and it's
over you got a bye week and thenyou got Wake you lose at Palo
Alto you end up dropping a homegame to Wake I it would not
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shock me to see the money all ofa sudden appear.
SPEAKER_01 (20:00):
Like whether you got a cash in that TV money that you
know the new revenue share shitlike you at some point so what
happens then who's on your shortlist if you had your way and you
were the AD and you fired Mikewho's on the list I'm I'm going
out looking at the bestrecruiters in the country and
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I'm seeing you know I'm going upto the club I'm I'm taking a
shot at Heartline.
SPEAKER_02 (20:25):
I'm taking a shot at the defensive coordinator at
Georgia.
I'm going anywhere that has aconnection to the South I mean
John Sumerall at Tulane GeorgeSyracuse hey see what he wants I
just want good players back inthe program.
You know I'm I'm tired of halfof the recruiting class being
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kids you can write off beforethey even step on campus.
SPEAKER_01 (20:52):
Yeah too many self-motivational like stories
to all come together to be good.
You actually we need to haveguys that are just actually
really good and maybe not don'tlike football.
SPEAKER_02 (21:04):
Yeah I don't give a sheriff just somebody somebody
that can identify talent man youknow when it when Jimbo is here
with Eddie Grand before Stoopsleft and before 2013 the the guy
building that roster Jimbo andEddie like there was a thing
called the Jimbo three star aguy like Xavier Rhodes three
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star walks in from day onemaking an impact like three star
Devontae Freeman unranked untilhe plays in a state title it was
clear I mean that you had buteven but the guys that were the
big time players oh yeah theywere good.
SPEAKER_01 (21:41):
They're good Marcus Joyner Jameis Winston they
didn't like fluff out they theylived up to their potential if
not went exceeded it.
So what were you you haven'tseen any of that in this in this
regime no that's that's the mostalarming part they they had
changed a little bit so you hadyou can't really compare it like
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just apples to oranges but tonot have any not to just to be
like you just named like threeguys easy.
Yeah and you're like when youstart naming it's been six years
yeah to name one one two one guythat you named one yeah and it
was off a team that went two andten after he got dragged so I
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mean I I think it's everythingis fair.
SPEAKER_02 (22:26):
He's making this is this is the kind of money you
know this is what happens youback the guy God almost wish
Alabama went and just got himyeah I mean I still I mean I
asked myself that a lot thenlike it had he left and gone to
Alabama would we be any worseoff I mean the bet right what
you have to do is you gotta tryto you gotta try to support him
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and you gotta there's you can'tget out of it.
Well I I think he'll get anotheryear.
I mean I maybe not but you knowand I think they'll do what
everybody's expecting them to dois just Right yeah they'll
probably beat they need to theyhave to beat Stanford and they
have to beat Wake and they haveto beat Virginia Tech.
SPEAKER_01 (23:05):
There's your six wins yeah that's it that's it
right there.
That's it.
If you lose any more I'm doneyeah and it's gonna be every
show is going to be fire firefire fire fire right if you lose
one of these last two home gamesthere's there's really no reason
to exactly you should fire himright there.
Yeah and and I like and I likethe coach I think he is a hard
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worker I think he works his tailoff I I I think he's definitely
better than the previous coach.
I don't think that's debatable.
I think he won at Memphis that'sdude we could go to high schools
and find the guy better than theprevious coach.
Right right that's not debatablethat needed to happen Mike
Norvell needed to get brought inat the time I'm not saying it
was a bad hire it was probablythe right hire.
SPEAKER_02 (23:51):
Right I think the ultimate failure from Mike
Norvell was not being able tosell a 19 game winning streak to
kids in high school and havebetter players in that time
span.
SPEAKER_01 (24:05):
And that's part of getting screwed no you got
screwed after your 19 gamewinning streak right here's what
you get you don't get to go tothe playoff and get advertised
free marketing for a month youget to go get beat by Georgia
who's pissed too and get lose by60 points.
SPEAKER_02 (24:21):
Right but that was that's four weeks after early
signing day I know I know yeahyeah that's true though you're
right he wasn't able to pullthat season you can't capitalize
on on going 13 and oh and andhaving everybody on that team
that's getting looked at by theNFL and you can't get into the
top the quarterbacks you'rebringing in we saw the big his
big quarterback recruit was itCromanhoe probably yeah yeah the
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the best thing he's done atquarterback recruited is having
a commitment from Luke Altmeyerat one time and now Altmire's
doing great at Illinois and hedidn't even sign him.
Yeah that's the only positiveyou can point to at that
position in terms of the highschool and that's the most
important position in in thegame.
CL Kirby is no shame.
SPEAKER_01 (25:08):
Oh dude he's such a sack of shit he's no shame but
he has no problem gettingplayers no course not his
integrity is like they don'tgive a shit about integrity.
SPEAKER_02 (25:16):
Yeah they want to win and they want people
hounding them you have got to berelentless yeah you have got to
stay in the forefront of thesekids' mind to the point of where
like old player Nile LawrenceStaple said about Eddie Grant
he's the best recruiter of alltime every three days this guy
was at my house it's like dudecoach you were just here a
couple days ago I'm five minutesdown the road I'll be there in a
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second is like you have got tolet the kids know like we need
you.
You're gonna make every coach inthis room so happy if you sign
here.
SPEAKER_01 (25:48):
And you might not get all he's got that yeah of
course he's got that crazy I wasclapping no I was clapping
because I was saying they wereclapping and he gets exactly
what he needs the whole time ohyeah yeah you even got Sean
McDonough just sitting there hewas calling timeout.
SPEAKER_02 (26:04):
McDonough I love Sean McDonough he's the best but
it it it got it got what heneeded yeah oh that was funny.
SPEAKER_01 (26:10):
Georgia beat Auburn 2010 probably shouldn't have
yeah they shouldn't that changethat wasn't a fumble dude he
broke the plane anyway yeahanyway but uh what else we got
in Alabama survived Alabamasurvived they they look like
that's another guy I would beAlabama versus Miami the
national championship probablyCarson Beck and uh Simpson two
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finalists for the Heisman yeahyeah it's yeah yeah although I
mean I would be fine if it wentto somebody who wasn't a
quarterback yeah I mean ifIndiana goes unbeaten that's
that's the guy I'm giving theHeisman to me if they keep they
just beat Oregon so they didwhat you did and that do they
have to play Ohio State?
Alright well there it is.
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If they can do that which theywon't I mean no they won't um
but you you can lose once andstill right they validated I
think making the playoff lastyear even though it pissed off a
lot of people they deserved ittoo well they had a they had a
really shitty schedule last yearand everybody expected them to
Well they're better this year.
SPEAKER_02 (27:09):
Yeah they expected like oh watch they'll play a
good team and give me like nahthey played a good team and won
on the road arguably the hardestplace to go on the road yeah
best one of the year they havewith the best resume.
SPEAKER_01 (27:19):
Yep best one of the year at the playoff rankings
were out they should be rankedthey've won three straight road
games they went up to Illinoisone they should be ranked one.
SPEAKER_02 (27:26):
Oh wait did they play Illinois at home?
SPEAKER_01 (27:28):
But the way they beat them they beat him like 50
to zero and then go on the roadto Iowa win at Iowa Iowa Iowa
actually should have beat them.
Right but it was a tough gameand Iowa and then come back the
next week and go up to Eugeneand beat Oregon and that was a
trap game the Iowa game yeah andthey they survived it they
should be number one.
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But Miami's I mean Miami andOhio State I think have the
they're the best rosters interms of draft yeah and that's
why they're getting GMs you knowif you had but man Indiana's if
you don't have a dog in thefight you can feel like there's
this I'm rooting for him.
They haven't been good in it'sjust like what's fun to see a
coach with the com with the swagyou know and it's he's right
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he's doing his job right and Ithink it's the experience that
he's had he's like you know whatI'm gonna do it this way this
time.
SPEAKER_02 (28:18):
Right and I there's a good chance that he stays
there until he's done with ityeah exactly I mean he's he's in
his 60s already why would he whywould he exact I I think he the
perspective now what he's notgonna leave that.
SPEAKER_01 (28:31):
Yeah because that's something a young man would do.
SPEAKER_02 (28:33):
Exactly like why no dude I've I spent years at James
Madison yeah like no I'm in thebig ticket I came here I got my
path to the playoffs and this isgonna be me.
SPEAKER_01 (28:43):
Yeah this is gonna be because of me this is going
to be my legacy.
Yep and like a lot when you'reyoung you don't really think
about those kind of things youkind of just like whoa they just
come at Jimmy Sexton's tellingyou what to do the money.
SPEAKER_02 (28:54):
Like oh I gotta go take this Penn State job and
because it's Penn State PennState's gonna offer him the
Brinks truck.
SPEAKER_01 (29:00):
Yeah you know that's happening.
They're gonna offer him the mostmoney they that's who they're
going for.
SPEAKER_02 (29:06):
Yeah they'll go for him I think they'll probably
kick the tires on Matt Rule justbecause he's an alum played
there.
Yeah um wouldn't shock me to seeboth of those guys turn it down.
Yeah you know it's too muchpressure.
Yeah and there's there's stillsome stink on that program man
like you you know on what?
SPEAKER_01 (29:27):
I couldn't see what yeah for well Franklin I you
know he he is who he is yeah hebuilds it up right and he builds
it up and he but he never couldwin against a good team and now
he wasn't winning against theteams and it was they knew it's
like bro if you can't win it youalways beat the teams you're
supposed to beat.
Yeah once you start losing thathe's done and that's it he's a
(29:50):
victim of his own personality.
SPEAKER_02 (29:52):
He did a lot of complaining about support um
financial stuff oh wow before hesigned his they didn't
SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
Not I mean he has the record and the winning.
Yeah, he's just to be to getfired, kind of how quickly he
was, right?
They were waiting.
SPEAKER_02 (30:08):
Right.
It it's worn thin.
People are tired of him.
I mean, you got the fanschanting fire Franklin at home
games.
Wow.
Like that's so funny once itgets to that point, it very
rarely ever rebounds.
Two weeks is you're done.
Yeah.
Well, they were waiting for it.
Oh, I know.
The fans expect it.
SPEAKER_01 (30:24):
To say that you your team is ranked number two,
though, with the same guy.
Yeah.
And you play this game.
But they they were expecting it.
Oh, I know, I know.
And so was I.
Yeah.
I think everybody was.
SPEAKER_02 (30:36):
We'll see.
We'll give him this, we'll givehim this Oregon game.
And if he if he can't get itdone, then it's Well then it's
like, well, we can't.
SPEAKER_01 (30:44):
Well once he lost again, that was it.
Oh, yeah, it was the clincher.
I think he was done at the endof the season, once he lost the
Oregon game.
I think because they expected,hey, he's gonna still go 10 and
2.
We can't fire him in the middleof the year.
Right.
We'll have to wait and make it amacro kind of thing.
SPEAKER_02 (30:59):
But once he lost those two games, if he had made
the playoffs again, he probablysticks around, keeps going
through the motions.
SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
But losing to UCLA.
I think you yeah, you lose tothe big guys again and beat
everybody else.
I think he was gone at the endof the year.
Yeah.
The fact that he lost to thelittle guys, they were like,
well, we just gotta do it now.
You gotta do it now.
All right.
Well, uh NFL, uh Niners, Bucks,Baker Mayfields, your MVP, I
(31:27):
think.
So I don't even think it's closeat this point.
He's just balling out, man.
Yeah.
He's he's got a rifle cannon,and but he's also got poise
under pressure.
I mean, he looks like Lamar backthere, the way he's getting away
from the fast as Lamar, but he'she knows his pocket presence is
good and his arm strength isbetter than Lamar's.
SPEAKER_03 (31:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:49):
He's got a cannon, he's playing, he looks like he's
playing Oklahoma football.
Yeah.
In some of those games.
Uh, if he doesn't turn the ballover, which he's not doing, he's
he's he's just playing.
It's fun to watch, and I hatethe Bucs.
Yeah, they're they're reallygood.
I really like Baker.
It's hard not to respect theguy.
He's a he's if you're you cansee why teammates love him.
(32:12):
Yeah, I mean that's what youwant playing quarterback.
That's what you want playingquarterback.
If you're a Bucks fan, it's hardnot to root for him.
I mean, you had Tom Brady,right?
Yeah, and I and I like and Iget, you know, but this guy's
more way more fun to root forthan Brady.
SPEAKER_02 (32:27):
Yeah, without question.
Like when you're rooting for theBucks are fun.
If you're rooting for Brady as aBucks fan, you still feel kind
of dirty.
Like, uh like I guess I gottalike him, and he's great.
He won a Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_01 (32:40):
The Dolphins played good, but they lost at the end
to Dicker, the kicker.
Yeah.
Um got that pick.
Yep.
Hey, they covered.
Yeah, they did.
Um, but that's just a matter oftime.
I'm gonna tell you what theworst game of the entire weekend
was Denver and New York.
Oh my god, I'm glad I had towork that morning.
(33:01):
Oh my god.
11 was that the 13 to 13.
13 to 11.
SPEAKER_02 (33:04):
I don't know what the hell Sean Payton was.
SPEAKER_01 (33:06):
If you look at the stats for Fields, if you count
the sacks, he had negative 10yards passing.
He's awful.
This is a guy they gave moneyto.
Right.
This is another guy.
This is what I'm talking about.
Like, these guys are gettingcontracts, but yet Jameis gets
one year four million.
Yeah.
Well, he's younger.
Yeah.
And then and and I will say,like, I've never seen the like a
(33:28):
potential like go up and down onone guy, like from game to game.
With Justin Fields.
Oh my god.
Like, you want like watch thefirst game of the year against
Pittsburgh.
Right.
He's like, damn.
Yeah, it's this guy.
It is mental.
But then you're like, watch lastweek.
(33:49):
I mean, it is uh it is noconsistency.
SPEAKER_02 (33:53):
No, dude, I I'd say probably seven of the nine sacks
are his fault.
Yeah.
Just I'm like, man, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (34:02):
It was bad.
Yeah.
Rams look good.
Rams' defense is good uh becausethe offense, the the Ravens
responded.
The defense responded.
Yeah, they gave up the mostpoints.
It was good.
But then Harbaugh, you're tied,right?
It's three to three.
Yeah.
Right?
You gotta take the points.
(34:23):
Go win the half with a lead.
He's an idiot.
Your team needs anything.
He's an idiot.
And he goes for it when there'slike three yards to get.
With Cooper Rush.
Yeah.
Like if it's Lamar and Lamar'syelling at you, okay, I I'll
understand that better becausethat's the captain of your team
and he can run it in, maybe.
But like you chose to go for itwith Cooper Rush when you could
(34:43):
have taken the lead into half.
So I don't think it's a goodthing.
It's not like this is uh likethe first drive, we can't settle
for fear goals.
I I that pisses me off.
Just go for it crap.
Take the points.
You're going into the defensiveline of the Rams.
Take the points.
That's the strength of thatdefense.
And well, not only that, respectwhat your defense has been
doing.
(35:04):
Yeah.
Which is holding the Rams up.
Then they they turn it over, theRams score off both turnovers
because other than that, theRavens defense played well
enough to win.
SPEAKER_02 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean, you hold the Rams to 17 points.
SPEAKER_01 (35:17):
The Rams are good, the NFC West is good, the
Seahawks, you know, the Jags,the Jags, they showed you who
they are.
If they don't get turnovers,they're not beating you.
Let me tell you something, man.
They're they're they're they'returnover reliant, and that's
what they get in all their wins.
Yeah.
Uh Trevor Lawrence, if you'vebeen watching him all year, is
not consistent.
No, he is not going to win yougames.
(35:37):
No.
He's not.
SPEAKER_02 (35:38):
No.
I'm going to tell you somethingright now.
Watching a Jags game is sogoddamn annoying because of the
amount of time they spendtalking about Travis Hunter.
SPEAKER_01 (35:50):
Well, they have to.
SPEAKER_02 (35:51):
You're talking about a guy that's a good thing.
Who costs his team because helined up offsides?
Yeah.
Cost 16 receiving yards in thegame.
No passes defended, one tackle,and Mark Scareth is out there
calling this dude the future ofthe NFL football.
SPEAKER_01 (36:08):
Yeah.
This shit is insane.
It's just all like a sopredetermined soap opera, some
of it.
You know?
He's not even their best rookie.
SPEAKER_02 (36:18):
You know, that kid Tootin from Virginia Tech.
He he at least makes an impact.
SPEAKER_01 (36:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (36:26):
Whatever.
SPEAKER_01 (36:27):
They're foreign to um AFC South doesn't look too
bad after all, though, becausethe Colts are five and one.
SPEAKER_02 (36:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:35):
They survived uh Arizona in a valiant effort from
Jacoby Brissett.
There you go.
Who looks I mean I'd I'd ratherplay him than than Kyler Murray.
I've always been a fan ofJacoby.
I mean, he's always beencapable.
I remember seeing that game wesaw when we saw at NC State, him
and Jameis.
Yeah.
He's a big dude.
(36:55):
He's steady.
He'll have a job, but like hecould be a starter.
SPEAKER_02 (37:00):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (37:01):
But it's everything's flashy and has to
make like it has to be aboutratings.
Like, why is why is Jacoby orBrissett not a starter, but Jake
Justin Fields is.
SPEAKER_02 (37:09):
Justin Fields, like Dylan Gabriel's been given the
reins in Cleveland.
Like, well, we drafted him inthe third round.
We had to.
Um come on.
Yeah, you flacco, a retrack.
SPEAKER_01 (37:20):
You know, you need you it's all about the system
and like where you go.
Because you can be good and goto a bad system.
Look at Baker Mayfield, look atSam Darnold, look at Jameis.
Jameis is still good.
He just went to the show.
Look at Mac Jones.
SPEAKER_02 (37:33):
Remember how bad he looked in Jacksonville?
unknown (37:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:36):
He's got four games over three.
SPEAKER_01 (37:38):
He looks better than Brock Purdy.
Right.
I mean, it's all about thesystem.
So if you go somewhere bad,you're gonna suck.
And the outlier here is maybePeyton Manning, but they let him
suck.
Yeah.
They didn't give up on him.
Right.
So uh yeah.
Um you got some Monday nighterstonight.
Bears, um Bears Commanders,Bears Commanders, Falcons,
(38:00):
Bills, Bills.
Not that's not bad.
It's pretty good, actually.
No, it's not.
Looking forward to that.
SPEAKER_02 (38:05):
It's much better than it was last week.
SPEAKER_01 (38:07):
Looking forward to that.
Uh what's that?
Uh-oh.
It's shuttle time, man.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Bleak.
SPEAKER_03 (38:16):
We had to go.
Our ride is here.
We got a uh shuttle.
SPEAKER_01 (38:21):
Well, we gotta get on out of here.
Our ride's here.
But before we go, how about themhoops, man?
I'm ready for basketball season.
I'm so ready.
I'm so ready, dude.
Luke Laux.
You try to talk to Adrian andLuke.
I talked to both of them.
They said they'd come on.
I don't know why you don't justhave them on then, man.
(38:43):
I don't know.
Time he's got a lineup.
Yeah, you know, but I'm excited.
Uh it's gonna be his first run,but fresh blood.
Yeah, I mean, you got anentirely new roster.
I'm excited to see it.
Right.
It's the expectations are none.
Like it's his first year, sothis will be fun just to see
what happens.
SPEAKER_02 (39:02):
Yeah, he's recruiting his ass off.
Right.
Selling absolutely nothing butbut hopes and dreams.
Yeah, he is.
SPEAKER_01 (39:10):
He's trying to, he's relating to the players, right?
Right.
I think that you I think he'sable to relate because he's been
in the NBA.
Did he yeah, he's got FaceTimeand Steph Curry.
He's got guys that are at thehighest level that are back.
SPEAKER_02 (39:22):
Yeah.
So that's that's gonna play, youknow.
You know, you might not be therebeating out Duke for the top
players in the country, but youstart getting some kids in the
back half of the top 100.
Mm-hmm.
It's all about it's all aboutgetting the right squad
together.
SPEAKER_01 (39:36):
He's he's doing a lot of local recruit, a lot of
state of Florida kids.
Florida, you can change it fast.
SPEAKER_03 (39:41):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (39:42):
And basketball, you can flip it fast.
Yeah, you get the right guys,the team can be good.
They're gonna be playing uptempo.
SPEAKER_02 (39:50):
It's gonna be up tempo trying to you know score
120 points every game.
Well, good.
SPEAKER_01 (39:54):
That's gonna be fun.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to seeingsome shots being made, some
threes being made.
You're gonna have you got tomake threes now nowadays.
Right.
Gotta shoot, you gotta use thatthree-point line of college.
SPEAKER_02 (40:07):
Fine with not seeing some 61 to 57 final scores.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (40:13):
Well, this is where Hamilton had it going when he
was in the late teens, you know.
He was up tempo style.
So I think that's the got thethat with some fresh blood here.
I'm looking forward to it, man.
Because, I mean, you can lookright down the road.
That's who you got to gothrough.
Yeah.
And they did it.
SPEAKER_02 (40:32):
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They're gonna be good again,man.
SPEAKER_01 (40:35):
Save their AD's job.
They got the eight-footer comingin next year.
Just stand around.
Right.
So I'm looking forward to that.
Uh, more football to getthrough.
Um, gets interesting.
Big game this Saturday night inPalo Alto.
A bowl is relying on this game.
It's it's do or die if you wantto make a bowl.
We'll watch them, we'll react tothem, and we'll talk to you next
(40:57):
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(00:32):
Hey it is just another footballMonday Another sad Monday
another sad football Mondaythey're all seemed to be the
same these last two years as FSUgoes to 0 3 man we still had
week one though didn't we?
(00:52):
Yeah we did wow just keepreplaying it it was great uh
ready James Franklin is out atPenn State he's rich feel rich
like 50 million man yeah 49.8good god what a he's my hero
$20,000 a day don't feel bad atall man no I think you once you
(01:14):
lose to uh Oregon you're likeyou know what watch this right
like this is ridiculous I'm notdoing this I'm not gonna sit
here and try yeah because theylost to Northwestern and UCLA
now Bellers out for the year youknow what after watching UCLA
(01:34):
this past weekend kick the shitout of Michigan State I just
gotta look at it and be like manmaybe it's just bad timing maybe
they they played UCLA a week toolate I mean like Clemson's
getting in together wait tillFlorida State travels up there
that'll be Dabulous Swan songright there that's gonna be it's
(01:55):
gonna be telling everybody buystock in Clemson football dude
oh yeah oh yeah oh god what thehell man we're gonna have to go
over what what the hell is theplan out of this if I don't
think Florida State can affordwhat Penn State did and I think
that's just well no I mean theyowe them$10 million more yeah
yeah they owe them more and theyhave less money yep they're not
(02:18):
in a contract with the Big Tenthey're not they're not getting
Big Ten NBC CBS all kinds of netthey got every network on the
payroll right the SPN's notgiving them any money say what
the So it's different it'sdifferent and uh it's you're
stuck also notable is Penn Statejust signed a huge huge deal
(02:42):
with Adidas to be their theirnew uniform outfitters well we
know how Adidas grows right nowthey're denying that they're
gonna help pay any of the buyoutbut yeah right come on right bro
like the shoot like Adidas andNike and this is all what this
has come down to the recruitingis now a war of corporate ties
(03:03):
yeah and where are you line upagainst and I hear Jordan Travis
saying well FSU needs to back upthe Brinks truck and pay these
recruits and it's like well okaywell where's the where's that
coming from right well we don'thave is Nike gonna back it up
here no because they're gonnapay Oregon well we're we're
backing up the Brinks truck toto pay the guy that still
wouldn't be able to get therecruits.
(03:25):
Yeah Jordan right that that'sthe reality of it I mean I I
totally get him backing his guyand but it it's just not
happening and you gotta look youyou I just don't see a way out
of it.
36 and 30 is his overall recordI mean he's lost he hasn't won
(03:45):
an ACC game since September of2024 against Cal in a game that
he shouldn't have won.
SPEAKER_02 (03:51):
Yeah that that's his one win.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
Yeah and you look at last year it's offense this year
it looks like it's defense.
SPEAKER_02 (04:00):
Even Cal has managed to put a team together that can
win ACC games.
SPEAKER_01 (04:03):
Right um so it's just mind boggling.
Right everything about it it'smind boggling how can you
because you know I was watchinglook at Indiana did you know
just went up to Oregon and wonand it's like what the hell is
this guy doing in Indiana?
SPEAKER_02 (04:24):
Well yeah what is he doing?
Well he's yeah yeah he'scoaching he's coaching he's
coaching he's been around bigtime he's been around he's been
around this is a guy that wasthe the recruiting coordinator
and and quarterback's coach forPhillip Rivers at NC State for
Chuck Amato I mean theexperience of of everything it
(04:48):
takes to be a big time footballprogram is something you have to
learn as you're coming up as anassistant coach.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (04:58):
A guy that came up under Todd Graham at Pittset the
ear the wire headset coach airtraffic controller yeah oh my
you're right man I was justgonna say I mean this guy
Kignetti or Signetti he's thereand he just tells you what how
he's doing it too it's just hardwork and I and what's Norvell
(05:23):
doing I mean I I know he'sworking hard but what's he he's
not his the substance islacking.
Maybe it's just more justrah-rah crap.
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
I think that I think that's that's all there is is
just hard work.
You know you you go back whatwhat Lovett said when you were
interviewing him a few years agothe work never changes what they
were doing never changes.
So you you kind of break thatdown it's like well he he's not
gonna change anything he's notgonna out scheme and body change
though.
Right.
(05:51):
You have to relate to yourplayers you can't have less
talent and think that you canjust do the same thing and get
the same results.
Right.
It's it's big picture kind ofthing.
SPEAKER_01 (06:01):
What's the plan each week?
Like what's what's it going totake to convince these players
to have that mindset and I Ithink I was one of the things
that struck me when I waslistening to him after the
Oregon game was him saying hehad a really good feeling just
on he said you never know howit's gonna play out until the
game happens which is true butonce it started he knew his
(06:24):
players had the confidence theyknew exactly what they were
going to do.
They weren't going to get theywere in a lot of that stuff you
hear Mike Norwell saying you gotto keep an even keel and right
it was there for the Alabamagame right but it's not been
there since where do you findthat each week yeah is that
that's the problem here.
SPEAKER_02 (06:45):
It is I think the the biggest most immediate
problem that's gonna be thereason why you lose games this
year is that you have adefensive scheme that requires
players to do things that noneof the players on your roster
can do.
Yeah and for me as a head coachlike you got to be aware of what
(07:08):
you have and what you'rebringing in.
And and you know I don't evenlike I Willie Taggart was full
of shit in everything that hesaid.
But one thing he did say whenwhen people would ask him about
you know what what's your staffgoing to look like is it you
know it's about finding guysthat fit our personnel and being
able to run now he didn't rightmanage to achieve that with his
(07:31):
hiring but like this kind ofwhat we're talking about with
Tony White.
SPEAKER_01 (07:34):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (07:34):
When you have a scheme that is reliant on
linebackers being able to domultiple things yeah you know
drop into zone coverage beingable to to play to spy a QB and
know when to attack and when tojust stay home like it dude
watching the all 22 of that gameon Saturday was sad.
(07:55):
They're clueless.
Yeah that's why you have themiddle of the field open all the
time because the linebackers arenot doing anything that they're
supposed to be doing.
The defensive line can't set anedge because you don't have edge
setters on the defensive line.
You don't have the personnel torun a three man front so yeah
(08:17):
that you know I I would love toblame it all on Tony White and
dude you got to figure out a wayto do it but this is a guy who's
run the same scheme everywherehe's been yeah so but that's
what he was brought in here todo.
Right.
But if you're Mike Norvell islike why exactly am I gonna
bring a guy in that needsplayers I don't have right to be
successful.
SPEAKER_01 (08:36):
Because I'll tell you it seems like with even last
year's defense with this year'soffense.
SPEAKER_02 (08:44):
Yeah oh without question without question dude
you could have kept Adam Fullerright and kept the guys that you
have and and let him get anotheryear with the same personnel and
and all that and you probablyare not sitting any worse than
four and two.
Like you may not beat Alabamabecause they know what defense
you're gonna run.
SPEAKER_01 (09:02):
They might have the element of surprise got you that
win but it's got you also behindthe eight bar the secrets out.
SPEAKER_02 (09:10):
The secrets out they know every team we play players
right every team we play isgoing to put the running backs
against the linebackers in thepassing game and that's going to
be mismatch city every singletime any team with a mobile
quarterback is going to manageto you know as soon as I see man
coverage as soon as I seeeverybody bailing out I'm taking
off for 15 20 yards a chunk andit again it comes down to if we
(09:34):
can score every time we get theball I mean there was we might
be able to win.
SPEAKER_01 (09:38):
I mean there was a play where the guy we haven't
backed up and was it BlakeNicholson yeah just runs right
like that's not your that's justnot that's not a bad call no
it's actually the right callright call you got a linebacker
there spying the quarterbackkeeping him in the pocket for
some reason.
So why bring in that defensewhen you have when you should
(09:58):
know as a coach that your guyscan't execute it.
SPEAKER_02 (10:00):
Right and and also like what's going on with the
linebackers like why is a guyNicholson who's been in a he
should have waited back youdon't need to rush that line
you're right you stay at thatline of scrimmage and you and
you follow him up because you'rethe only man out here in this
space.
SPEAKER_01 (10:19):
And he ran in and got trapped because yeah the
quarterback's running to hisright there's that's three
defensive linemen to his righthe's not running that way if he
does he's getting three yards soall right so that that has me
thinking all right obviously youneeded something you have to you
have to stay the course nowthat's the that's the sad part
(10:41):
you gotta have to fight throughit.
Yeah can't afford to hiresomeone else now in terms of
this guy I think you're right Ithink this is what you get now
but what you get is a hope ofmaybe he can piece it together
one of these years and that'swhat you're dreaming for is
another 2023.
SPEAKER_02 (11:02):
And it's just gonna be surrounded by a bunch of crap
and a bunch of frustratingthings but well unfortunately
that's what you got to have toplay to I mean I don't know I'm
just trying to I think the thetheory that's been out there on
the internet the last 18 hoursof how you approach 2026 is is
(11:23):
probably pretty on the head isthat you know this recruiting
class this high school class youit doesn't matter you know
they're gonna go all in on theportal.
You have to it's like once youdid that you have to live and
die by it.
SPEAKER_01 (11:36):
Right because you got a much tougher schedule um
you're it's your only chance ofsurvival is going eight and four
nine and three next year and youknow you're not gonna do that
basic high school right you'reyou're always playing catch up
and that's what you pretty muchhave to do and to get better in
(11:56):
that in that type of systemyou're gonna have to not only
you're gonna have to keep payingand you're gonna have to keep
ponying up and out outbid theseschools because you're gonna
you're going to have to get theplayers that Ohio State wants
you're gonna have to get theplayers that Miami wants.
Well you're gonna you're gonnahave to overpay this year.
You're gonna have to overpay.
You're gonna have to be the onegoing out there and say that top
(12:17):
whatever change regardless ofwho you get no at coach.
SPEAKER_02 (12:21):
No long term no like it you know you go in all out in
the portal next year to go into2026 you're right back in the
same boat 2027 that you werelast year.
But you want them gone yeahbecause you think that there's a
somebody better that can getplay just get the baseline of
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players the talent level higheris is that why or I think
there's there are people outthere like I honestly the next
coach I don't give a shit whathe does X's and O's or like I
just want somebody that re canrecruit top notch talent at the
high school level and that'swhat you got to do.
SPEAKER_01 (13:00):
Be able to consistently do it.
And that's how you win well it'show you you know what Mike
Norvell does is not sustainablelong term.
Right.
I believe like the fact thatClemson wasn't doing the
transfer portal thing everyone'slike whoa look what but what
they were doing was stillrecruiting.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
What they needed to do was add like a lot is made a
lot is made about the transferportal Miami did what Clemson
wasn't doing was competing inthe NIL.
Right.
So in high school and you looknow their high school recruiting
has fallen off significantly youknow like they were never up
there at always number one ornumber two but they were in the
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top 10 they were getting tons ofdefensive linemen which is
really important.
They managed to get twogenerational quarterbacks back
to back that's also a huge helpbut you know you you you got to
pay these kids right and ifyou're gonna pay portal players
you got to be prepared to do itevery year and you're gonna have
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to be the one overpaying everyyear.
SPEAKER_01 (14:04):
You can't think you can switch it up you know middle
of the road because then you getstuck so is there a is there a
coach out there that with thislandscape with the giant down in
Miami with the I know NIL thatthey have with the you know
who's gonna come and get playersto leave down there and come
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here for less money.
SPEAKER_02 (14:28):
Well it it you know there's there's I I shit I don't
know those days are done manright it's as much about being
able to identify talent that'sanother thing is yeah you're
gonna have to find those guysyou're gonna have to do it the
hard way there are a sizablenumber of misses under Mike
Norvell from the high schoolranks.
SPEAKER_01 (14:47):
Yep you know you look at Hakeem Williams who was
you know great you signed a fivestar wide receiver but yeah
Hakeem Williams was a five starand then Tony from Miami was
three star.
Boom there you go right likethat doesn't mean anything you
have to be able to you have tobe able to I get to be able to
tell the difference in thoseguys that's what you're paid
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for.
Yeah that's what we haven't seenat all back when Mike hasn't
done that at all.
It doesn't happen.
Every big recruit he's gothasn't done crap on the field.
Right.
Nothing there's been nothing youknow you you paid a lot of money
for a kid like Charles Lesterand he's made zero impact the
best out of all the kids Norvellhas coached or has recruited
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from the high school ranks whohas you got one success your one
success story is is Az Thomaswho got drafted.
SPEAKER_02 (15:42):
Yeah that that's your one guy he got he got good
that's your one guy and and yougot him because the other three
schools dropped the ball youknow they fired what's his face
at Florida Dan Mullen you knowthere was a coaching change at
LSU Brent Venables went toOklahoma.
So all of a sudden he's got wellthis is the only kind of stable
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place so let me go there.
Yeah but that's it and you whatlike arguably the best player on
offense right now is Danzi kidthat just is true freshman.
SPEAKER_01 (16:15):
Yep you got lucky because he's a local kid well I
was just gonna say you got yougot Danzi I mean you got chroma
right you overpaid for chromathat's what you're gonna have to
do.
Right.
You're gonna have to keep doingthat you're gonna have I like
the DeSur guy the the twinsthose are your I mean you have
to just almost double down thankGus for those guys.
It's gonna yeah well I need Gusto stay for another year
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recruiting.
Yeah I mean we're gonna we gotto double down on that and we're
gonna have to hopefully get someguys to fit the system of Tony
White and just try better.
Yeah and hopefully and hopefullyjust cut we go on a streak end
it similar to 2022 you know youhave to just you know galvanize
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the locker room stay together Idon't care what it takes when
you got a you got a winnablegame the next two should be
winnable I don't know if I don'tI don't know if I'd call Wake
Forest winnable.
Right you're not gonna do itbecause you got to go to two
Clemson you got to go to Floridayou got to go to NC State.
Right.
There's nothing that says thisteam's gonna be able to stop any
of those teams.
SPEAKER_02 (17:19):
No there's there I mean this is your last on paper
a winnable game.
SPEAKER_01 (17:24):
Right.
So um I still say you got tomake a bowl otherwise I want
them out.
But so we'll see if the six windream yeah well Indiana beat
Oregon that was the biggest winthey're number three now um Ohio
State has the defense this year.
It's almost like last year wasoffense this year it's defense.
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This year it's defense.
I mean just look at the NFL Imean look at the receivers the
best receivers in the NFL arelike the rookies out of Ohio
State all of them that that's athat's a guy I would I don't
think that Florida State couldever entice to leave Ohio State
but I mean if you want somebodythat's just going to be able to
identify talent that hasexperienced recruiting heart
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line yeah yeah in the state ofFlorida but again I I doubt he's
leaving Ohio State anytime soon.
Oh they're pay yeah they doeverything you want as a coach
right like they support youfully they have all the money
you need making two milliondollars as an offensive
coordinator there's no reason toleave if he ever wanted to leave
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it would be for something egowhere he like maybe at the NFL
level or if he wanted to get a ahead coaching job he just waits
till Ryan doesn't want to be ahead coach.
He's not leaving he ain'tleaving nowhere this is the best
job you can get in terms ofunder the radar none of the
pressure I mean this is kind ofwhat Mel Zahn signed up for.
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It's like I'm done with all thiscrap.
I want to go back to just callhim ball plays.
Yeah call him calling plays Idon't I mean to deal with any of
the head coach bullshit I meanthe offense didn't do crap after
the second half though.
No they didn't I mean you knowbut they were they're out all
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they don't have 31 points 31points has got to be enough to
win you a game.
Yeah it does no exactly I meanit seems like this year's team
is going to be suffering fromthe defense as opposed last
year's team suffered from theoffense.
Right.
Hopefully it won't be as bad.
I mean it won't be because youalready got the win against
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Alabama and you already gotthree wins you're technically
better than last year.
SPEAKER_02 (19:36):
But that means it's already just all downhill from
here then yeah man and you'restill better from that listen
you you go out this next weekendand lose in Palo Alto and it's
over you got a bye week and thenyou got Wake you lose at Palo
Alto you end up dropping a homegame to Wake I it would not
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shock me to see the money all ofa sudden appear.
SPEAKER_01 (20:00):
Like whether you got a cash in that TV money that you
know the new revenue share shitlike you at some point so what
happens then who's on your shortlist if you had your way and you
were the AD and you fired Mikewho's on the list I'm I'm going
out looking at the bestrecruiters in the country and
(20:21):
I'm seeing you know I'm going upto the club I'm I'm taking a
shot at Heartline.
SPEAKER_02 (20:25):
I'm taking a shot at the defensive coordinator at
Georgia.
I'm going anywhere that has aconnection to the South I mean
John Sumerall at Tulane GeorgeSyracuse hey see what he wants I
just want good players back inthe program.
You know I'm I'm tired of halfof the recruiting class being
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kids you can write off beforethey even step on campus.
SPEAKER_01 (20:52):
Yeah too many self-motivational like stories
to all come together to be good.
You actually we need to haveguys that are just actually
really good and maybe not don'tlike football.
SPEAKER_02 (21:04):
Yeah I don't give a sheriff just somebody somebody
that can identify talent man youknow when it when Jimbo is here
with Eddie Grand before Stoopsleft and before 2013 the the guy
building that roster Jimbo andEddie like there was a thing
called the Jimbo three star aguy like Xavier Rhodes three
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star walks in from day onemaking an impact like three star
Devontae Freeman unranked untilhe plays in a state title it was
clear I mean that you had buteven but the guys that were the
big time players oh yeah theywere good.
SPEAKER_01 (21:41):
They're good Marcus Joyner Jameis Winston they
didn't like fluff out they theylived up to their potential if
not went exceeded it.
So what were you you haven'tseen any of that in this in this
regime no that's that's the mostalarming part they they had
changed a little bit so you hadyou can't really compare it like
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just apples to oranges but tonot have any not to just to be
like you just named like threeguys easy.
Yeah and you're like when youstart naming it's been six years
yeah to name one one two one guythat you named one yeah and it
was off a team that went two andten after he got dragged so I
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mean I I think it's everythingis fair.
SPEAKER_02 (22:26):
He's making this is this is the kind of money you
know this is what happens youback the guy God almost wish
Alabama went and just got himyeah I mean I still I mean I
asked myself that a lot thenlike it had he left and gone to
Alabama would we be any worseoff I mean the bet right what
you have to do is you gotta tryto you gotta try to support him
(22:49):
and you gotta there's you can'tget out of it.
Well I I think he'll get anotheryear.
I mean I maybe not but you knowand I think they'll do what
everybody's expecting them to dois just Right yeah they'll
probably beat they need to theyhave to beat Stanford and they
have to beat Wake and they haveto beat Virginia Tech.
SPEAKER_01 (23:05):
There's your six wins yeah that's it that's it
right there.
That's it.
If you lose any more I'm doneyeah and it's gonna be every
show is going to be fire firefire fire fire right if you lose
one of these last two home gamesthere's there's really no reason
to exactly you should fire himright there.
Yeah and and I like and I likethe coach I think he is a hard
(23:28):
worker I think he works his tailoff I I I think he's definitely
better than the previous coach.
I don't think that's debatable.
I think he won at Memphis that'sdude we could go to high schools
and find the guy better than theprevious coach.
Right right that's not debatablethat needed to happen Mike
Norvell needed to get brought inat the time I'm not saying it
was a bad hire it was probablythe right hire.
SPEAKER_02 (23:51):
Right I think the ultimate failure from Mike
Norvell was not being able tosell a 19 game winning streak to
kids in high school and havebetter players in that time
span.
SPEAKER_01 (24:05):
And that's part of getting screwed no you got
screwed after your 19 gamewinning streak right here's what
you get you don't get to go tothe playoff and get advertised
free marketing for a month youget to go get beat by Georgia
who's pissed too and get lose by60 points.
SPEAKER_02 (24:21):
Right but that was that's four weeks after early
signing day I know I know yeahyeah that's true though you're
right he wasn't able to pullthat season you can't capitalize
on on going 13 and oh and andhaving everybody on that team
that's getting looked at by theNFL and you can't get into the
top the quarterbacks you'rebringing in we saw the big his
big quarterback recruit was itCromanhoe probably yeah yeah the
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the best thing he's done atquarterback recruited is having
a commitment from Luke Altmeyerat one time and now Altmire's
doing great at Illinois and hedidn't even sign him.
Yeah that's the only positiveyou can point to at that
position in terms of the highschool and that's the most
important position in in thegame.
CL Kirby is no shame.
SPEAKER_01 (25:08):
Oh dude he's such a sack of shit he's no shame but
he has no problem gettingplayers no course not his
integrity is like they don'tgive a shit about integrity.
SPEAKER_02 (25:16):
Yeah they want to win and they want people
hounding them you have got to berelentless yeah you have got to
stay in the forefront of thesekids' mind to the point of where
like old player Nile LawrenceStaple said about Eddie Grant
he's the best recruiter of alltime every three days this guy
was at my house it's like dudecoach you were just here a
couple days ago I'm five minutesdown the road I'll be there in a
(25:38):
second is like you have got tolet the kids know like we need
you.
You're gonna make every coach inthis room so happy if you sign
here.
SPEAKER_01 (25:48):
And you might not get all he's got that yeah of
course he's got that crazy I wasclapping no I was clapping
because I was saying they wereclapping and he gets exactly
what he needs the whole time ohyeah yeah you even got Sean
McDonough just sitting there hewas calling timeout.
SPEAKER_02 (26:04):
McDonough I love Sean McDonough he's the best but
it it it got it got what heneeded yeah oh that was funny.
SPEAKER_01 (26:10):
Georgia beat Auburn 2010 probably shouldn't have
yeah they shouldn't that changethat wasn't a fumble dude he
broke the plane anyway yeahanyway but uh what else we got
in Alabama survived Alabamasurvived they they look like
that's another guy I would beAlabama versus Miami the
national championship probablyCarson Beck and uh Simpson two
(26:32):
finalists for the Heisman yeahyeah it's yeah yeah although I
mean I would be fine if it wentto somebody who wasn't a
quarterback yeah I mean ifIndiana goes unbeaten that's
that's the guy I'm giving theHeisman to me if they keep they
just beat Oregon so they didwhat you did and that do they
have to play Ohio State?
Alright well there it is.
(26:52):
If they can do that which theywon't I mean no they won't um
but you you can lose once andstill right they validated I
think making the playoff lastyear even though it pissed off a
lot of people they deserved ittoo well they had a they had a
really shitty schedule last yearand everybody expected them to
Well they're better this year.
SPEAKER_02 (27:09):
Yeah they expected like oh watch they'll play a
good team and give me like nahthey played a good team and won
on the road arguably the hardestplace to go on the road yeah
best one of the year they havewith the best resume.
SPEAKER_01 (27:19):
Yep best one of the year at the playoff rankings
were out they should be rankedthey've won three straight road
games they went up to Illinoisone they should be ranked one.
SPEAKER_02 (27:26):
Oh wait did they play Illinois at home?
SPEAKER_01 (27:28):
But the way they beat them they beat him like 50
to zero and then go on the roadto Iowa win at Iowa Iowa Iowa
actually should have beat them.
Right but it was a tough gameand Iowa and then come back the
next week and go up to Eugeneand beat Oregon and that was a
trap game the Iowa game yeah andthey they survived it they
should be number one.
(27:49):
But Miami's I mean Miami andOhio State I think have the
they're the best rosters interms of draft yeah and that's
why they're getting GMs you knowif you had but man Indiana's if
you don't have a dog in thefight you can feel like there's
this I'm rooting for him.
They haven't been good in it'sjust like what's fun to see a
coach with the com with the swagyou know and it's he's right
(28:13):
he's doing his job right and Ithink it's the experience that
he's had he's like you know whatI'm gonna do it this way this
time.
SPEAKER_02 (28:18):
Right and I there's a good chance that he stays
there until he's done with ityeah exactly I mean he's he's in
his 60s already why would he whywould he exact I I think he the
perspective now what he's notgonna leave that.
SPEAKER_01 (28:31):
Yeah because that's something a young man would do.
SPEAKER_02 (28:33):
Exactly like why no dude I've I spent years at James
Madison yeah like no I'm in thebig ticket I came here I got my
path to the playoffs and this isgonna be me.
SPEAKER_01 (28:43):
Yeah this is gonna be because of me this is going
to be my legacy.
Yep and like a lot when you'reyoung you don't really think
about those kind of things youkind of just like whoa they just
come at Jimmy Sexton's tellingyou what to do the money.
SPEAKER_02 (28:54):
Like oh I gotta go take this Penn State job and
because it's Penn State PennState's gonna offer him the
Brinks truck.
SPEAKER_01 (29:00):
Yeah you know that's happening.
They're gonna offer him the mostmoney they that's who they're
going for.
SPEAKER_02 (29:06):
Yeah they'll go for him I think they'll probably
kick the tires on Matt Rule justbecause he's an alum played
there.
Yeah um wouldn't shock me to seeboth of those guys turn it down.
Yeah you know it's too muchpressure.
Yeah and there's there's stillsome stink on that program man
like you you know on what?
SPEAKER_01 (29:27):
I couldn't see what yeah for well Franklin I you
know he he is who he is yeah hebuilds it up right and he builds
it up and he but he never couldwin against a good team and now
he wasn't winning against theteams and it was they knew it's
like bro if you can't win it youalways beat the teams you're
supposed to beat.
Yeah once you start losing thathe's done and that's it he's a
(29:50):
victim of his own personality.
SPEAKER_02 (29:52):
He did a lot of complaining about support um
financial stuff oh wow before hesigned his they didn't
SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
Not I mean he has the record and the winning.
Yeah, he's just to be to getfired, kind of how quickly he
was, right?
They were waiting.
SPEAKER_02 (30:08):
Right.
It it's worn thin.
People are tired of him.
I mean, you got the fanschanting fire Franklin at home
games.
Wow.
Like that's so funny once itgets to that point, it very
rarely ever rebounds.
Two weeks is you're done.
Yeah.
Well, they were waiting for it.
Oh, I know.
The fans expect it.
SPEAKER_01 (30:24):
To say that you your team is ranked number two,
though, with the same guy.
Yeah.
And you play this game.
But they they were expecting it.
Oh, I know, I know.
And so was I.
Yeah.
I think everybody was.
SPEAKER_02 (30:36):
We'll see.
We'll give him this, we'll givehim this Oregon game.
And if he if he can't get itdone, then it's Well then it's
like, well, we can't.
SPEAKER_01 (30:44):
Well once he lost again, that was it.
Oh, yeah, it was the clincher.
I think he was done at the endof the season, once he lost the
Oregon game.
I think because they expected,hey, he's gonna still go 10 and
2.
We can't fire him in the middleof the year.
Right.
We'll have to wait and make it amacro kind of thing.
SPEAKER_02 (30:59):
But once he lost those two games, if he had made
the playoffs again, he probablysticks around, keeps going
through the motions.
SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
But losing to UCLA.
I think you yeah, you lose tothe big guys again and beat
everybody else.
I think he was gone at the endof the year.
Yeah.
The fact that he lost to thelittle guys, they were like,
well, we just gotta do it now.
You gotta do it now.
All right.
Well, uh NFL, uh Niners, Bucks,Baker Mayfields, your MVP, I
(31:27):
think.
So I don't even think it's closeat this point.
He's just balling out, man.
Yeah.
He's he's got a rifle cannon,and but he's also got poise
under pressure.
I mean, he looks like Lamar backthere, the way he's getting away
from the fast as Lamar, but he'she knows his pocket presence is
good and his arm strength isbetter than Lamar's.
SPEAKER_03 (31:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:49):
He's got a cannon, he's playing, he looks like he's
playing Oklahoma football.
Yeah.
In some of those games.
Uh, if he doesn't turn the ballover, which he's not doing, he's
he's he's just playing.
It's fun to watch, and I hatethe Bucs.
Yeah, they're they're reallygood.
I really like Baker.
It's hard not to respect theguy.
He's a he's if you're you cansee why teammates love him.
(32:12):
Yeah, I mean that's what youwant playing quarterback.
That's what you want playingquarterback.
If you're a Bucks fan, it's hardnot to root for him.
I mean, you had Tom Brady,right?
Yeah, and I and I like and Iget, you know, but this guy's
more way more fun to root forthan Brady.
SPEAKER_02 (32:27):
Yeah, without question.
Like when you're rooting for theBucks are fun.
If you're rooting for Brady as aBucks fan, you still feel kind
of dirty.
Like, uh like I guess I gottalike him, and he's great.
He won a Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_01 (32:40):
The Dolphins played good, but they lost at the end
to Dicker, the kicker.
Yeah.
Um got that pick.
Yep.
Hey, they covered.
Yeah, they did.
Um, but that's just a matter oftime.
I'm gonna tell you what theworst game of the entire weekend
was Denver and New York.
Oh my god, I'm glad I had towork that morning.
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Oh my god.
11 was that the 13 to 13.
13 to 11.
SPEAKER_02 (33:04):
I don't know what the hell Sean Payton was.
SPEAKER_01 (33:06):
If you look at the stats for Fields, if you count
the sacks, he had negative 10yards passing.
He's awful.
This is a guy they gave moneyto.
Right.
This is another guy.
This is what I'm talking about.
Like, these guys are gettingcontracts, but yet Jameis gets
one year four million.
Yeah.
Well, he's younger.
Yeah.
And then and and I will say,like, I've never seen the like a
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potential like go up and down onone guy, like from game to game.
With Justin Fields.
Oh my god.
Like, you want like watch thefirst game of the year against
Pittsburgh.
Right.
He's like, damn.
Yeah, it's this guy.
It is mental.
But then you're like, watch lastweek.
(33:49):
I mean, it is uh it is noconsistency.
SPEAKER_02 (33:53):
No, dude, I I'd say probably seven of the nine sacks
are his fault.
Yeah.
Just I'm like, man, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (34:02):
It was bad.
Yeah.
Rams look good.
Rams' defense is good uh becausethe offense, the the Ravens
responded.
The defense responded.
Yeah, they gave up the mostpoints.
It was good.
But then Harbaugh, you're tied,right?
It's three to three.
Yeah.
Right?
You gotta take the points.
(34:23):
Go win the half with a lead.
He's an idiot.
Your team needs anything.
He's an idiot.
And he goes for it when there'slike three yards to get.
With Cooper Rush.
Yeah.
Like if it's Lamar and Lamar'syelling at you, okay, I I'll
understand that better becausethat's the captain of your team
and he can run it in, maybe.
But like you chose to go for itwith Cooper Rush when you could
(34:43):
have taken the lead into half.
So I don't think it's a goodthing.
It's not like this is uh likethe first drive, we can't settle
for fear goals.
I I that pisses me off.
Just go for it crap.
Take the points.
You're going into the defensiveline of the Rams.
Take the points.
That's the strength of thatdefense.
And well, not only that, respectwhat your defense has been
doing.
(35:04):
Yeah.
Which is holding the Rams up.
Then they they turn it over, theRams score off both turnovers
because other than that, theRavens defense played well
enough to win.
SPEAKER_02 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean, you hold the Rams to 17 points.
SPEAKER_01 (35:17):
The Rams are good, the NFC West is good, the
Seahawks, you know, the Jags,the Jags, they showed you who
they are.
If they don't get turnovers,they're not beating you.
Let me tell you something, man.
They're they're they're they'returnover reliant, and that's
what they get in all their wins.
Yeah.
Uh Trevor Lawrence, if you'vebeen watching him all year, is
not consistent.
No, he is not going to win yougames.
(35:37):
No.
He's not.
SPEAKER_02 (35:38):
No.
I'm going to tell you somethingright now.
Watching a Jags game is sogoddamn annoying because of the
amount of time they spendtalking about Travis Hunter.
SPEAKER_01 (35:50):
Well, they have to.
SPEAKER_02 (35:51):
You're talking about a guy that's a good thing.
Who costs his team because helined up offsides?
Yeah.
Cost 16 receiving yards in thegame.
No passes defended, one tackle,and Mark Scareth is out there
calling this dude the future ofthe NFL football.
SPEAKER_01 (36:08):
Yeah.
This shit is insane.
It's just all like a sopredetermined soap opera, some
of it.
You know?
He's not even their best rookie.
SPEAKER_02 (36:18):
You know, that kid Tootin from Virginia Tech.
He he at least makes an impact.
SPEAKER_01 (36:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (36:26):
Whatever.
SPEAKER_01 (36:27):
They're foreign to um AFC South doesn't look too
bad after all, though, becausethe Colts are five and one.
SPEAKER_02 (36:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:35):
They survived uh Arizona in a valiant effort from
Jacoby Brissett.
There you go.
Who looks I mean I'd I'd ratherplay him than than Kyler Murray.
I've always been a fan ofJacoby.
I mean, he's always beencapable.
I remember seeing that game wesaw when we saw at NC State, him
and Jameis.
Yeah.
He's a big dude.
(36:55):
He's steady.
He'll have a job, but like hecould be a starter.
SPEAKER_02 (37:00):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (37:01):
But it's everything's flashy and has to
make like it has to be aboutratings.
Like, why is why is Jacoby orBrissett not a starter, but Jake
Justin Fields is.
SPEAKER_02 (37:09):
Justin Fields, like Dylan Gabriel's been given the
reins in Cleveland.
Like, well, we drafted him inthe third round.
We had to.
Um come on.
Yeah, you flacco, a retrack.
SPEAKER_01 (37:20):
You know, you need you it's all about the system
and like where you go.
Because you can be good and goto a bad system.
Look at Baker Mayfield, look atSam Darnold, look at Jameis.
Jameis is still good.
He just went to the show.
Look at Mac Jones.
SPEAKER_02 (37:33):
Remember how bad he looked in Jacksonville?
unknown (37:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:36):
He's got four games over three.
SPEAKER_01 (37:38):
He looks better than Brock Purdy.
Right.
I mean, it's all about thesystem.
So if you go somewhere bad,you're gonna suck.
And the outlier here is maybePeyton Manning, but they let him
suck.
Yeah.
They didn't give up on him.
Right.
So uh yeah.
Um you got some Monday nighterstonight.
Bears, um Bears Commanders,Bears Commanders, Falcons,
(38:00):
Bills, Bills.
Not that's not bad.
It's pretty good, actually.
No, it's not.
Looking forward to that.
SPEAKER_02 (38:05):
It's much better than it was last week.
SPEAKER_01 (38:07):
Looking forward to that.
Uh what's that?
Uh-oh.
It's shuttle time, man.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Bleak.
SPEAKER_03 (38:16):
We had to go.
Our ride is here.
We got a uh shuttle.
SPEAKER_01 (38:21):
Well, we gotta get on out of here.
Our ride's here.
But before we go, how about themhoops, man?
I'm ready for basketball season.
I'm so ready.
I'm so ready, dude.
Luke Laux.
You try to talk to Adrian andLuke.
I talked to both of them.
They said they'd come on.
I don't know why you don't justhave them on then, man.
(38:43):
I don't know.
Time he's got a lineup.
Yeah, you know, but I'm excited.
Uh it's gonna be his first run,but fresh blood.
Yeah, I mean, you got anentirely new roster.
I'm excited to see it.
Right.
It's the expectations are none.
Like it's his first year, sothis will be fun just to see
what happens.
SPEAKER_02 (39:02):
Yeah, he's recruiting his ass off.
Right.
Selling absolutely nothing butbut hopes and dreams.
Yeah, he is.
SPEAKER_01 (39:10):
He's trying to, he's relating to the players, right?
Right.
I think that you I think he'sable to relate because he's been
in the NBA.
Did he yeah, he's got FaceTimeand Steph Curry.
He's got guys that are at thehighest level that are back.
SPEAKER_02 (39:22):
Yeah.
So that's that's gonna play, youknow.
You know, you might not be therebeating out Duke for the top
players in the country, but youstart getting some kids in the
back half of the top 100.
Mm-hmm.
It's all about it's all aboutgetting the right squad
together.
SPEAKER_01 (39:36):
He's he's doing a lot of local recruit, a lot of
state of Florida kids.
Florida, you can change it fast.
SPEAKER_03 (39:41):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (39:42):
And basketball, you can flip it fast.
Yeah, you get the right guys,the team can be good.
They're gonna be playing uptempo.
SPEAKER_02 (39:50):
It's gonna be up tempo trying to you know score
120 points every game.
Well, good.
SPEAKER_01 (39:54):
That's gonna be fun.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to seeingsome shots being made, some
threes being made.
You're gonna have you got tomake threes now nowadays.
Right.
Gotta shoot, you gotta use thatthree-point line of college.
SPEAKER_02 (40:07):
Fine with not seeing some 61 to 57 final scores.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (40:13):
Well, this is where Hamilton had it going when he
was in the late teens, you know.
He was up tempo style.
So I think that's the got thethat with some fresh blood here.
I'm looking forward to it, man.
Because, I mean, you can lookright down the road.
That's who you got to gothrough.
Yeah.
And they did it.
SPEAKER_02 (40:32):
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They're gonna be good again,man.
SPEAKER_01 (40:35):
Save their AD's job.
They got the eight-footer comingin next year.
Just stand around.
Right.
So I'm looking forward to that.
Uh, more football to getthrough.
Um, gets interesting.
Big game this Saturday night inPalo Alto.
A bowl is relying on this game.
It's it's do or die if you wantto make a bowl.
We'll watch them, we'll react tothem, and we'll talk to you next
(40:57):
time, right here on the NorthFlorida Sports Network.
SPEAKER_03 (41:07):
You understand that?
You gotta give us a shot.
You know what,
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