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Cindy explains what the $&*+ a turtle dove is.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
on the second day of christmas, my true love gave to
me two turtle doves.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And can I tell you, kitty, I was so honored that I
got the chance to research thislyric of the song to turtle
doves.
What a more beautiful vision ofChristmas.
And well, here's the deal,katie, what the is a turtle dove
(00:39):
.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's Cindy when a dove and a turtle love each
other very much.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
La, la, la, la, la, la la cover your kids' ears.
So for this, I want to say, Irelied heavily on
operationturtledoveorg for myinformation.
So did you know, Katie, thatturtle doves are a delicate,
dainty species of dove thatweigh only about 140 grams, or
(01:09):
like a third of a pound?
It is their charismaticturturing sound.
I wish it gets its name.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Do that with me, so it has nothing to do with
reptiles.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
No, no, no, it's just , they're purring.
That's why they're calledpurring dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Let me just say I feel like ornithologists are the
laziest sons of guns you evermet.
What's this bird?
It says whippoorwill,whippoorwill.
Let this bird.
It says whippoorwill,whippoorwill, let's call it a
whippoorwill.
This one says what are?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
we going to name it.
It's telling us what it wantsto be called.
It's supposed to be called aturtle dove.
Turtle doves are the only longdistance migratory dove species
in europe.
They depart their breedinggrounds in Western Europe in mid
to late summer and they chooseto winter in West Africa because
(02:12):
Palm Beach City is just toobusy.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's too far.
It's too far and with the COVIDrestrictions now it's really
hard to get the little tiny birdmasks on.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So now that we know what the turtle dove is, why
would someone give somebody elsenot one, but two of them as a
present?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well, how are you going to get any more baby
turtle doves?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
How else can I start a turtle dove breeding farm
Exactly?
Well, here's a fun fact, katie,speaking of making babies
turtle doves have historicallyhad romantic associations
specifically with fidelity andtrust.
The roman deity fetus fight us.
What is it?
(02:59):
How do you spell it?
F-i-d-e-s.
Fidus, but it's an E-S.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
F-I-D-E-S Fides.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh, fides, okay, the Roman deity Fides, the goddess
of good faith, was oftenpictured holding a turtle dove.
For those of you Greekmythology fans not Katie.
For those of you Greekmythology fans not Katie you may
have noticed that Aphrodite,the goddess of love, had a
chariot that was pulled byturtle doves.
(03:33):
Shakespeare himself wrote oftenof turtle doves, as did Anne
Bronte and even Edgar Allan Poe,but some might say that turtle
doves had their real moment inthe sun on May 19th 2018, katie,
what day was that?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Oh, is that?
No?
No, that's not.
Oh, that's when they got thenew Pope right.
Nope, I know it's not Catherineand William's wedding, because
that was 2019.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, no it wasn't 2019 .
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But but but but, the other one, harry.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Meghan and Harry's wedding which, may I remind you,
that wedding was watched bymillions of people and during
the ceremony, one of thereadings actually described
turtle doves as heralds ofspring heralds of spring?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
it's not.
I go back to my victors ofhistory.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
They're not the stevens of spring, they're not
the janets of spring, they'rethe heralds picturing all these
men in like hawaiian shirts,like coming out like I'm, a
herald of spring flip-flopseason.
Yet so not only are turtledoves associated with love, but
(05:03):
they also symbolize deepestdevotion.
It is said that if one turtledove of a turtle dove pair dies,
the other one will mourn.
When co-ruler of FlorenceGiuliano de' Medici was murdered
in 1478, his partnercommissioned a portrait of
Medici which included a turtledove which was supposed to
(05:26):
represent his mourning partner.
And it also, of course, doesn'thelp that the sound they make
sounds a lot like really awfulmourning, and also the fact that
they drink a lot too.
No, I'm just kidding, theydon't do that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I was going to say.
I have been in mourning andI've never once uttered the
phrase, no matter how depressedI was Not once.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I did drink a lot, though.
Exactly there, though exactlyhere you go.
Just like a turtle, just like aturtle.
Turtle doves are still a symbolof affection today.
I'd like to take a moment toreference one of the most
stirring films of our time homealone too, as you might recall,
katie.
In this film, kevin presentsone of his turtle dove ornaments
(06:19):
to the bird lady.
He says, quote turtle doves area symbol of friendship and love
.
Keep one and give the other toa very special person.
As long as each of you has aturtle dove, you will be friends
forever.
End quote.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
We're really running out of historical sources, that
we have to use Macaulay Culkinas a primary source.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But here's the big question you've all been waiting
for Should you, this holidayseason, give your lover a turtle
dove or two for Christmas?
Well, in addition to being asymbol of love, affection and
devotion, doves are alsodelicious and have been hunted
for thousands of years.
Turtle doves are hunted legallyin some countries, but they are
(07:07):
being harvested in excess andthe number of turtle doves is
declining rapidly.
In fact, turtle doves are theUK's fastest declining bird
species, and they are threatenedwith global extinction, oh wow.
Therefore, when looking for aspecial gift for that special
someone, probably best to stickto the Ferrero Rocher.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Agreed, agreed.
I do have to say I'm a littledisappointed.
When you were building it upand saying, should you get
someone some turtle doves, I wasreally hoping you were going to
say I'm a little disappointed.
When you were building it upand saying, should you get
someone some turtle doves, I wasreally hoping you're gonna say
no, because they're extremelyaggressive no, they're just
extremely almost extinct.
That's why, oh because they'reso adorable and delicious my
(07:52):
thesis stands the more there isa relationship, the more
adorable a creature gets, themore delicious and that, dear
katie, is what the f*** a turtledove is.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Thank, you.
on the second day of christmas, my true love gave to
me two turtle doves.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And can I tell you, kitty, I was so honored that I
got the chance to research thislyric of the song to turtle
doves.
What a more beautiful vision ofChristmas.
And well, here's the deal,katie, what the is a turtle dove
(00:39):
.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's Cindy when a dove and a turtle love each
other very much.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
La, la, la, la, la, la la cover your kids' ears.
So for this, I want to say, Irelied heavily on
operationturtledoveorg for myinformation.
So did you know, Katie, thatturtle doves are a delicate,
dainty species of dove thatweigh only about 140 grams, or
(01:09):
like a third of a pound?
It is their charismaticturturing sound.
I wish it gets its name.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Do that with me, so it has nothing to do with
reptiles.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
No, no, no, it's just , they're purring.
That's why they're calledpurring dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Let me just say I feel like ornithologists are the
laziest sons of guns you evermet.
What's this bird?
It says whippoorwill,whippoorwill.
Let this bird.
It says whippoorwill,whippoorwill, let's call it a
whippoorwill.
This one says what are?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
we going to name it.
It's telling us what it wantsto be called.
It's supposed to be called aturtle dove.
Turtle doves are the only longdistance migratory dove species
in europe.
They depart their breedinggrounds in Western Europe in mid
to late summer and they chooseto winter in West Africa because
(02:12):
Palm Beach City is just toobusy.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's too far.
It's too far and with the COVIDrestrictions now it's really
hard to get the little tiny birdmasks on.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So now that we know what the turtle dove is, why
would someone give somebody elsenot one, but two of them as a
present?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well, how are you going to get any more baby
turtle doves?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
How else can I start a turtle dove breeding farm
Exactly?
Well, here's a fun fact, katie,speaking of making babies
turtle doves have historicallyhad romantic associations
specifically with fidelity andtrust.
The roman deity fetus fight us.
What is it?
(02:59):
How do you spell it?
F-i-d-e-s.
Fidus, but it's an E-S.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
F-I-D-E-S Fides.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh, fides, okay, the Roman deity Fides, the goddess
of good faith, was oftenpictured holding a turtle dove.
For those of you Greekmythology fans not Katie.
For those of you Greekmythology fans not Katie you may
have noticed that Aphrodite,the goddess of love, had a
chariot that was pulled byturtle doves.
(03:33):
Shakespeare himself wrote oftenof turtle doves, as did Anne
Bronte and even Edgar Allan Poe,but some might say that turtle
doves had their real moment inthe sun on May 19th 2018, katie,
what day was that?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Oh, is that?
No?
No, that's not.
Oh, that's when they got thenew Pope right.
Nope, I know it's not Catherineand William's wedding, because
that was 2019.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, no it wasn't 2019 .
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But but but but, the other one, harry.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Meghan and Harry's wedding which, may I remind you,
that wedding was watched bymillions of people and during
the ceremony, one of thereadings actually described
turtle doves as heralds ofspring heralds of spring?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
it's not.
I go back to my victors ofhistory.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
They're not the stevens of spring, they're not
the janets of spring, they'rethe heralds picturing all these
men in like hawaiian shirts,like coming out like I'm, a
herald of spring flip-flopseason.
Yet so not only are turtledoves associated with love, but
(05:03):
they also symbolize deepestdevotion.
It is said that if one turtledove of a turtle dove pair dies,
the other one will mourn.
When co-ruler of FlorenceGiuliano de' Medici was murdered
in 1478, his partnercommissioned a portrait of
Medici which included a turtledove which was supposed to
(05:26):
represent his mourning partner.
And it also, of course, doesn'thelp that the sound they make
sounds a lot like really awfulmourning, and also the fact that
they drink a lot too.
No, I'm just kidding, theydon't do that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I was going to say.
I have been in mourning andI've never once uttered the
phrase, no matter how depressedI was Not once.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I did drink a lot, though.
Exactly there, though exactlyhere you go.
Just like a turtle, just like aturtle.
Turtle doves are still a symbolof affection today.
I'd like to take a moment toreference one of the most
stirring films of our time homealone too, as you might recall,
katie.
In this film, kevin presentsone of his turtle dove ornaments
(06:19):
to the bird lady.
He says, quote turtle doves area symbol of friendship and love
.
Keep one and give the other toa very special person.
As long as each of you has aturtle dove, you will be friends
forever.
End quote.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
We're really running out of historical sources, that
we have to use Macaulay Culkinas a primary source.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But here's the big question you've all been waiting
for Should you, this holidayseason, give your lover a turtle
dove or two for Christmas?
Well, in addition to being asymbol of love, affection and
devotion, doves are alsodelicious and have been hunted
for thousands of years.
Turtle doves are hunted legallyin some countries, but they are
(07:07):
being harvested in excess andthe number of turtle doves is
declining rapidly.
In fact, turtle doves are theUK's fastest declining bird
species, and they are threatenedwith global extinction, oh wow.
Therefore, when looking for aspecial gift for that special
someone, probably best to stickto the Ferrero Rocher.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Agreed, agreed.
I do have to say I'm a littledisappointed.
When you were building it upand saying, should you get
someone some turtle doves, I wasreally hoping you were going to
say I'm a little disappointed.
When you were building it upand saying, should you get
someone some turtle doves, I wasreally hoping you're gonna say
no, because they're extremelyaggressive no, they're just
extremely almost extinct.
That's why, oh because they'reso adorable and delicious my
(07:52):
thesis stands the more there isa relationship, the more
adorable a creature gets, themore delicious and that, dear
katie, is what the f*** a turtledove is.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Thank, you.
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