Championship Cheers, Athlete Earnings, and Winter Woes

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome back to the 9 News Podcast.
As you can tell, we are alittle excited.
We had some cool stuff happen.
A couple days ago Very excited,very, very excited so as fans
of college football and as fansof Ohio State Buckeyes, we kind
of couldn't help ourselves andwe just wanted to jump right
into it.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
That's right.
They finally got a championshipagain.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, it's been 10 years, Is it 10?
They won the initial four-teamplayoff, so they've now won as
soon as they switched theplayoffs.
The last two times we won whenit switched to four, and now we
won when it switched to 12.
So that's listen.
We've got to do it less than 10years.
I need one every four maybelet's keep it a little bit more
often, because that's a littlebit tough.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'm okay with Ryan Day hanging around a little
while now, but he's going tohave to get another one before
10 more years.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well, even I said, after losing Michigan four times
, he almost has to win achampionship.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
He did Congrats, you're safe he did You'll?
Probably get a contractextension.
The Last podcast.
I was so back and forth on whoto pick, but I knew if they come
out and played like I know theycan, they should win no problem
.
And that's what they did.
I feel like they came out withtheir foot down and jumped on
them quick.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, they started super strong, Like that first
half, like well, I'll say this,First time they've been down the
entire playoffs, go down sevento nothing.
But watching that game Iliterally was saying to the guy
I was watching with they lookgassed.
Like that opening drive took alot out of notre dame.
Oh it did.

(01:52):
Quarterback was hurting.
They ran him so many times.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
You know, I was watching and I was like I'm a
little confused here because Ithought riley leonard was their
quarterback but it looked likehe was the running back on that
that series there.
I think it was what nine runs.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
He is definitely more of a feet-first quarterback.
He's not one that's a huge,huge arm threat.
I mean he can throw the balldon't get me wrong but he's
definitely going to beat youmore with his feet than anything
.
But they took like nine minuteson the opening drive drove

(02:26):
right down the field and I waslike uh-oh, that that's not good
.
But as they got to the goalline I started to say notre dame
looks really tired, likelinemen were huffing.
Yeah, even the quarterback waslike he was slow, getting up on
every play it was a struggle.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I was kind of with you on that a little bit, but
watching the way they had to usethe quarterback, nine run plays
right and he got hit on all ofthem at the last one correct,
and I and I thought they can'tkeep this up, like that's kind
of gimmicky a little bit.
I know you can run yourquarterback but it's kind of
gimmicky and, to be honest withyou, I wonder how much that
drive affected him throughoutthe rest of the game, because
they hurt him so much on thefirst drive.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
He got hit a lot.
I mean he's not one to reallyslide much, he's not one to
really go down and protecthimself.
He's trying to always go forextra yards and they hit him
several really good ones.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
The sideline reporter said he'd come over getting
sick and everything.
I guess he'd fell on the ball,yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well, and he was hobbled a little bit.
I don't know if it was a knee,hip, ankle, whatever it was on
that right side.
You could tell a few timeslater in the game as he got up.
It was a little slow.
I mean that that first drivefor them was was a good
statement, until their defensegot on the field and ohio state
said we can score a lot fasterthan you.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
So it's very, very different.
If you're depending on yourquarterback like that, I'm not
doing that first drive.
If I need that later in thegame I'll do it, but I am not
gonna put him like what if hegot hurt?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
yeah I mean, then you're done.
Notre d Dame has more weaponsthan I think they really showed,
Like the the love kid in thebackfield he's a heck of a
running back.
He was apparently healthiest,he's been all year, yeah, and we
didn't really see them run himmuch, which Ohio State's rush
defense is pretty solid.
It is They've been susceptibleto the pass and fortunately
Notre Dame is not a huge passteam.

(04:02):
I was actually a little moreworried that we may see Notre
Dame do more of atwo-quarterback system.
Let that backup come in becausethe kid can sling it.
I mean, he is a true passingquarterback and there's not much
film to be able to sit here andsay what do we do there?
You can't really time him, youcan't do all that.
So that made me more nervous.
But then as the game developedyou know, especially that first

(04:24):
half I mean it really shouldhave been a blowout, like the
foot came off the throttle inthe second half, for sure.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, they started playing, not to lose I think
their second half but not totake.
You know I'm not taking anycredit away from Ohio State or
put Notre Dame down, butwatching the game and seeing the
camera go to Marcus Freeman andthe players, even Riley Leonard
, their quarterback I felt likeNotre Dame was kind of lost all
night.
They did not look like theynormally look to me.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
First half, especially defensively, and I
think Freeman, the Notre Damecoach, said it at halftime like
we've got to get them off thefield on third down.
Yeah, I mean at one point itwas like seven of seven or eight
of eight on third downs.
I mean you can't allow that andexpect to win.
They were doing what theywanted.
But no, I mean Ohio Statedidn't especially first half,

(05:14):
I'll say this didn't commit manypenalties, didn't have any
turnovers, like they just wereplaying good football.
And in the second half,especially right before Notre
Dame, I guess, started to makethe run.
I felt like we started to seethat Ohio State versus Texas and
Ohio State versus Michigan andOhio State.
You know, in some of the veryearly games where we just got

(05:37):
like we didn't let our weaponsjust out and run, I mean there's
so many weapons there.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, it almost felt like they thought they were far
enough ahead and good enough,let's just kind of kill the
clock.
There's no way they can comeback.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, it's kind of how it felt late game against
Oregon.
It did.
Yes, we were just like, well,it's over, let's just run the
ball a little bit.
Three and out doesn't reallymatter To me.
Like just finish it, like comeout and score two or three more
touchdowns and Notre Dame'sgoing to basically give up Like
it's just going to happen.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I'm sitting here looking at the scoring by
quarter and we talked about howmuch time Notre Dame took off in
the first quarter.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, time of possession.
First quarter was all NotreDame.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Ohio State scored 21 points in the second quarter
alone, right Ten in the thirdand three in the fourth.
So you can tell how much thattapered off as the game went on,
was it?

Speaker 1 (06:24):
seven in the first.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
None in the first.
Oh, that's right, because theydidn't score until the second
quarter.
They scored right after thequarter change.
Yeah, because Notre Dame tookso much of that first quarter
away.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I remember that because they were actually down
seven nothing.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
You went three touchdowns in the second quarter
a touchdown, a field goal in.
Okay, we got a big enough lead.
Let's just kind of coast it onout and make sure we don't lose.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
And I hated that because if they come back, it
felt like you know, let's playsoft in the secondary, just keep
them underneath, nothing big,but we're still letting them
drive down the field.
And then it felt like westopped sending pressure Because
the opening drive I was sittingthere thinking we've got to
pressure, like he got somethrows off, that we weren't even
close to him.
And then second drive, theycame out here and we sent

(07:08):
pressure from everywhere,whether it was one, two, three,
whatever it was, it was justnonstop.
And I was like, all right,we'll be fine, we're willing to
do it.
And then second half came backand it was let's sit back in the
zone and they just, they reallyplayed it well, they brought
zone and they just they reallyplayed it well.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, they brought it back, they did.
And that's I'm sitting herethinking, you know, we're kind
of critiquing that.
They let their foot off the gasa little bit, but it worked.
I mean, maybe that was theirgame plan.
Let's get up quickly on themand then we can kind of coast on
out and make sure we don't losethis thing you know, don't hurt
yourself.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Like because that's the thing, the egg bucca
turnover off of a huge play Guykind of came out of nowhere.
That happens another one or twotimes, I don't care if they
score 40.
They were going to lose Exactly.
That's to me like I don't liketo take my foot off because then
we're willing to give upmomentum, we're willing to give
up flow.
It gets you out of whack.

(07:58):
It's really hard to say well,we're good enough that we can
just turn it back on.
To an extent, yes, but at whatpoint is it?
The momentum just too much of ashift and it's hard to come
back.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, once you kind of slow that down, you can crank
it back up, but it may not bethe same Right it's not the same
level.
And I even I think I texted youabout it like I loved the play
with Smith that they scored thefirst touchdown on where he
starts to come across thebackfield, because you can tell
Notre Dame like the guy knowsit's coming to him, he's waving
it, he's saying it's going, it'sgoing, but they all think he's
coming across on a sweep orsomething.

(08:31):
Well, so they've done that playthroughout the year where they
have done a sweep on him.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
What's really funny to me, that's the exact same
play that Alabama scored on OhioState in the last national
championship.
Ohio State was in.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
So In the last national championship Ohio State
was in.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
So they just kind of used it on their own.
This time it was the exact copy.
I mean you could tell the waythat the defense was lined up
was the same way Ohio State waslined up, the way that they did
with Smith.
I'm trying to remember.
I can't remember what Alabamareceiver it was, but it was
literally what they did.
On the left side he startedaround like an end around, cut
back, they tossed it to him, hewent in untouched.
Yeah, I mean it was literallythe same play and I'm watching
the highlight and I'm like thatone.

(09:06):
They remembered, they keptreceiving that and was like I'm
going to use that because thatkilled us.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
So they lost a championship with it and they
won a championship with it.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yes, because that was such a big play I mean
especially after Smith havingsuch a I can't really say weak
game, the game before it's justhe didn't get targets even so it
wasn't even really much to do.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I mean, he got so much attention.
I think it opened up some otherguys, so he still did his part
he just didn't get a lot ofcatches.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, but if you notice, kind of like I said
Notre Dame's going to play manand they said well, we're going
to play man, and they did allnight.
They had the safety cheat hisway.
Exactly like I said, if theyplay man because the one
one-on-one they did was likethird and 11, and it was a
50-something yard gain he justabsolutely baited the guy middle

(09:48):
field and just kind of fadedout and it was easy.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
He's a star for sure.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh yeah, I'm glad we have him for at least one more
that's going to be.
They're so deep at skillpositions.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's kind of another thing that has annoyed
me.
You talked about one more.
I saw comment by uh, I think itwas kurt warner, something like
yep, does it bother you towatch this game knowing how much
ohio state paid for theirplayers?
Then I see, after the game Ithink it was rg3 made, made a
statement or, or on social mediasomething that was like um, now
we know what it costs to win achampionship, or something like

(10:22):
that.
And it just really bothers mebecause when you go look it up,
well, the numbers that are outthere I don't know if all the
numbers are correct anyways,because who knows?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
for sure.
I'm sure we're not getting allthe real numbers.
I mean, there's just no way,and that's across the board, not
just Ohio State but the numbersthat we know.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Texas and Oregon supposedly paid more for their
teams.
Correct, Ohio State beat them.
Notre Dame wasn't far behindthem.
And again, these are numbers.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
we think we know that wasn't the media saying that
all week?
All week it was look how muchOhio State's paying.
And then this little Notre Dameis coming in trying to beat
them.
Oh, I know, and it's like hangon.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's not the case.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Every big program is like $20 million at this point.
Nobody is not.
We talked about this a littlebit last week.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Players have been getting some compensation for
years.
Yes, maybe it's not been tothat extent, maybe it's been
other things, whatever.
So this isn't new anyways, andevery school is doing it, it
ain't just there goes our buddyuh, it isn't just just Ohio
State or just the big nameschools or whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
No, the smaller schools are doing it.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's all these for lack of a better term, old
school guys who don't want kidsto be paid in college, and it's
really getting on my nerves, tobe honest with you.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So I can see that a little bit more with Kurt Warner
because he's a little moreolder To me for RG3, it almost
just sounds like jealousy.
He didn't get paid like, so youknow like if he was in this
position now, the way he was atbaylor, he would be one of the.
He would be the carson beck sixmillion, you know, at miami
yeah, he would.
He would be getting those hugefour million, whatever it is,

(11:57):
he'd be getting those hugenumbers.
So, yeah, in college he wouldlove that.
Because then when he went tothe nfl he was around a while
but he was only really a starfor a year and then got some
injuries and really wasn't thesame.
So the money wasn't presentedto him the same way.
But whether you like it or notbecause again I'm one of those

(12:17):
I'm not crazy about the moneythat's being thrown around
because it's just right now.
It's being thrown around withno purpose.
It's just if you got it, youthrow it and it's done.
But unfortunately it's the wayit is right now.
I don't think you can say, oh,they won because they spent a
bunch of money.
I would love to go back andlook at the top 12 teams, these
12 playoff teams.

(12:37):
How much NIL money was there?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Ohio.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
State's not 50% of it .

Speaker 2 (12:42):
No, it's not crazy.
They're all up there, andthat's the thing too.
Yes, they went out and got aquarterback and a few players,
but they spent a lot of thatmoney just keeping their players
there.
And why does Ohio State have topay that much to keep their
players there?
Because everybody else isoffering that much to leave, so
it's not like it's just them.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
They went out and got a quarterback.
That was a career backup.
It's not like they went andbought the best one out there.
Don't get me wrong.
Will Howard played fantasticthis year.
He's exactly what they needed.
They needed a little bit mobile.
That still was pass first.
They needed that kind of guyseniority.
You knew what he was doing, buthe's like a three-star out of
high school.
If that was a backup.
Every single year of his careerhe ended up being a starter at

(13:21):
some point, but it was due to aninjury or something.
He was never the picked starteruntil he came to Ohio State.
Yeah so like it's not, like theyeven really had to pay him a
huge number.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, they didn't go out and buy the best quarterback
out there to go win achampionship.
No, if they were going to dothat, they'd have bought Cam
Ward.
Like if you're going to say thebest.
Probably throwing quarterbackthat was up for sale would have
been cam war but so that justreally got on my nerves and
we've talked in the past, youknow kind of how we feel about
nil and of course, theredefinitely needs to be some
changes.
So if you want to get ouropinions on that, that's in some

(13:51):
other episodes.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I don't want to keep repeating don't get me down that
road.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I know I don't want to keep going over and over, but
the fact is, this is where it'sat.
Okay, if you're a coach, a fan,a player, whatever, and you
don't like it, then go on likeyou don't have to be part of it,
like this is where we're going,and the narrative I keep
hearing is all these young kidsgetting this money?
These young kids, first of all,these ain't kids.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
No, I mean they're.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
They're by law, they're an adult they're,
they're over 18, you're talking18 except for the kid from
alabama.
He's received that's right, hewas only 17, 17 like the end of
the year, which is crazy, butyou're talking typically kids
from 18 to 24 years old.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Some.
I mean, we keep seeing these.
I'm in my ninth year of collegeeligibility and I'm like when
did college become this?
Let's go there and hang outLike we have like seven and
eight year starters, and I'mlike how does that work?
So I mean some of these kidsare 26.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
does that work?
So I mean I mean some of thesekids are 26.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I don't know that I have a problem with it, I mean
no, but it's just.
It's just, like you know, we'retalking about these kids.
Some of these kids areliterally 24, 25, 26 years old.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Like that's not a child in every other aspect of
life for some reason, exceptcollege.
They're adults right like.
If they can go to a tradeschool, they can go out be a job
, they can go to the military,they can, you know, go be uh
first responders.
There's all these things.
They can go to a trade school,they can go out and be a job,
they can go to the military.
They can, you know, go be afirst responder.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
There's all these things they can do, but we don't
consider them that until theyeither go to the NFL or leave
college altogether.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
But when you go to college, now, all of a sudden
you're a kid.
No, you're an adult, you're ina business.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Like that's what you, that's your business.
I, that side of it, I'm just tome running a business.
You gotta have contracts, yougotta have, you gotta have
something that stipulates howthe money is handled.
Because right now there's youknow no reason to go play.
These guys get this money andit's like all right.

(15:37):
Well, you can't pull it from melike I mean, they're, they're
getting all this basicallyguaranteed upfront stuff.
Like it's hard to say.
Well, you know what you hard tosay how you do it.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Talking about that, I don't know how that even works
without contracts or withoutbeing able to say what you made,
because when you start makingmoney, there's taxes involved
and all this different stuff.
So you're right on thatSomething's got to change.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
I think there's still some backdoor stuff obviously.
I'm sure here's the thing, theway that all this has always
worked.
You have some teams that havemore money, some teams that have
more goods, some teams that tryto pull in whatever else they
can to make it worth it, andthere's always regulations and

(16:19):
teams always get in trouble forbreaking those regulations.
There's still technically NILregulations, but I guarantee
half these teams are breakingthem.
It's the way they trouble forbreaking those regulations, like
they're still technically nilregulations, but I guarantee
half these teams are breaking no, yeah, that's just it's the way
they do it they're not therules change over the time, they
just.
They still mess them up andhere's it.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
It doesn't matter what the rule is.
Teams are going to push thelimit, of course like you know,
that's every sport every well,it's racing or whatever you're
doing, you're pushing the limitto try to be the best you try to
bend the rules and not breakthem.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, that's the whole.
That's what everybody alwaysdoes exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
So don't mean to get too much on a soapbox there, but
it bothers me to see thesepeople coming out and and
basically saying oh, this is whythey won, this is why they did.
When they lost to michigan,nobody was saying, oh well, they
didn't pay enough.
This, this is why.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I mean, you know you got to go both ways with it, but
here's the thing they want totalk about.
Well, they bought achampionship.
They got beat by Oregon earlierin the year.
Like they avenged that lossthankfully, like that's
fantastic, but Oregon is payingtoo.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I mean they're paying a lot more than Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
with the numbers, I don't think reported wise is is
more, but I think everybodyknows it's there for a while.
The rumor was uh, oregon had ablank check.
I mean they're they're in thesame town of Nike where the.
Nike headquarters are.
They are a Nike sponsor.
They have more jerseys thaneverybody.
I mean to me the selling pointback in the early 2000s.

(17:45):
Go to Oregon.
We have 400 uniforms.
You know we can't technicallygive you money but we've got a
million of these we can give you.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, I mean, they were.
You know, everybody knew backin Oregon.
They were the ones coming outwith the cool helmets and
different jersey layouts.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
They had alternate logos, they had alternate.
I mean, it was everything.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, they were the cool football.
But what's crazy is that wasChip Kelly, who's Ohio State's
offense coordinator now.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
But even before him.
Like I can remember growing upplaying the college football
games on PlayStation, Xbox,whatever it was, like, I don't
know, 2008, 2009,.
You wanted to play with Oregonbecause every time you went to
go change uniforms, you justkept sitting there clicking.
I mean, they just kept goingand going and going.
Everybody else had a home andaway, like Oregon had like 10 or

(18:31):
15.
And that I mean that's you'retalking way back in the days of
like Dwayne Dixon and guys thatlike You're going way back.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
This is like mid to late 2000sor maybe even earlier.
I can't even remember it at thepoint that he was there.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
But it was very, very enticing to come there for some
of that stuff.
Well, like I said, I don't wantto just sit and dwell on this
too much, because I do want tocircle back a little bit,
because last week we talkedabout it and then we put out our
scores.
We did, and I had a tough timepicking last week, but somebody
thought Notre Dame might beatthem.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I did.
I was that somebody.
So, honestly, let me do this.
I don't want to get too far offof it, but this is going to
take me to my love it and hateit of the week.
Okay, let's go, because I havea love it and it's probably the
first time that I'm going tolove this and maybe the last

(19:34):
time.
But I wrote this down and I waseven laughing at myself when I
wrote it.
I love the fact that I was wrong.
I love the fact that theBuckeyes didn't come out, lay an
egg and just make a crappy gameout of it, kind of like I felt
they did a little bit againstTexas, like they did not feel

(19:55):
like the same team the way theydid against Michigan, like we
watched that Michigan game.
It's like this is not OhioState, like this team is a joke.
Right now they're not willingto do anything offensively.
So for me, on the week, I lovedthe fact that we weren't
necessarily great all year butended up winning a championship

(20:16):
with a team that definitely wasthe best team in college
football To me.
There's no question there's toomany weapons, offensive and
defensive.
They are good every position,yeah.
So I love the fact that Iwrongly picked Notre Dame to win
who they are a good team, don'tget me wrong, but Ohio State
was just too strong.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
And I love that he was wrong as well.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
You just love that I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I love when you're wrong but even more in this
situation.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's the most thing for you.
You just love me being wrong, Imean.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I am looking.
So you picked Notre Dame to win24-21.
So you had a three-point game.
You thought it was going to bea close game.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I thought it was going to be close regardless.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Actually, I think the 11-point win I was a little
more surprised about yeah, I wasfinding myself with was the
Buckeyes winning by four.
I got you.
That's kind of where I saw itcoming, so I wasn't off either.
Brian actually had the biggestspread, so I was at 27-23 is
what I expected and then Brianactually picked a little bit
31-24.
So he had a seven-point win.
So he was pretty close thoughclose, though we were all kind

(21:25):
of close to the scores a littlebit um, but end up being a
little bit bigger differencethan I think any of us expected
so well, I was glad to see that.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I'm trying to see paul had texted me or no, had
commented on on facebook, um,about his prediction and I want
to say he was like 31, 17 or hewas a little bit bigger, so he
saw a little bit yeah, he waspicking ohio state as well.
You know him as an alabama fan.
He didn't really have a dog inthe fight at this point, so he's
already saying it's basketballseason.

(21:50):
He's been saying that since, Iguess, the selection show.
Uh, we're already intobasketball, we're not worried.
We're not worried aboutfootball anymore.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
We're a basketball school you know I did see um
what.
Three years in a row, big Ten,or two years and three years
since the SEC, I think, has wonone.
Yes, right, so that's kind ofodd.
I don't think my opinion of theSEC football has changed much.
I still think they're allreally good, but they just

(22:21):
couldn't get to the end.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
To me it's like I've said a few times, I think now
For SEC it feels like they arebetter across the board.
They've got some times wherethey are the best, but I feel
like top to bottom they're byfar the toughest conference.
Like the Big Ten, there wasfour big teams we can call it

(22:45):
five big teams, that's it.
Everything past them prettyrough.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Was there five.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Well, so you had Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon,
Indiana.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Oh, indiana, I don't count them.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
They were in the playoffs.
This year is what I'm counting.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I never believed in them, not one moment this year.
Don't count them.
They're in the playoffs.
No, no, no.
This year is what I'm counting.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I never believed in them, not one moment.
This entire year, this year,I'm counting them.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Once they met somebody good, they didn't have
a chance.
They were done.
Sorry, Indiana fans.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
I guess four right now, and typically you're going
to say Michigan.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
On most years Michigan.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
So if you had included Michigan this year
you'd have five.
But past that Big Ten's prettyweak.
I mean SEC.
You can name eight, nine teamspretty quick.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I still wonder if that hurts the SEC, because
they're beating up on each otherall year.
Are they just not as healthy,not as good when they get to the
postseason stuff?
Because?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
none of them really done any good when they got
there.
Well, I mean, you had somedifferent SEC that was in the
playoff.
This year, though, you had aGeorgia without a starting
quarterback.
You had Texas, who's afirst-year.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
SEC.
They don't play like an SECteam, that's a little bit
different.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Tennessee's still a very young team.
I think they're going to be adangerous team in a few years,
but I just feel like them rightnow.
They're still really young.
I mean at quarterback they'resuper young, but he's going to
be a stud.
I mean he's impressive.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, I'm already excited for next year.
Like I want college football tostart back right now.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Let's go.
Yeah, I mean we opened theseason Ohio state, texas.
Oh, that'd be fun, like uh.
There's a few like big openingweek games.
I can't remember all of them.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
None of these teams are going to look the same next
year, so no, no, they're allgoing to be so so different.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, for the most part.
For the most part how it ended.
I love Ohio State Championship,but I'm also sad that it's over
, Because that's a big part ofit.
Now I am excited Because we'realmost into January.
Already.
March Madness is right aroundthe corner, it is coming up,

(24:55):
it's coming close.
But before, yeah, what are wehalfway through?
Before I get to March Madness,I did my love it of the week.
I need your hate it, I don'tknow what you're talking about.
Yeah, I need that real quick.
What?
Is that you know.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
No, this we gotta go there.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
We gotta go there this week.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
I.
You know there's always lots ofthings I could pick.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
There are plenty of things he hates On a daily basis
, but that's not questioning.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
We all do.
I just Tell mine out loud, morethan most people probably.
Um.
So yeah, this week it's been alittle slower week.
You know, we got past thecollege world championship.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
It's been extremely cold around here for our area
it's been brutally cold.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
We don't typically get this no, we've been down in
what single digits at night alittle bit for about a week and
a half.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, like it's been pretty rough yeah, it's uh yeah,
my wife woke up this morning.
She said on her way to work itwas three.
I'm like, yeah, no thanks, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
I'm good I can, um I, I know you actually lost your
voice for a few days.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, I'm still a little raspy.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I'm trying to come back from it Right now.
I'm I'm struggling over.
We've been in for several days,um.
So I had several things on mymind.
I thought what about this, whatabout that?
And I was kind of going thisway and then change of mind.
I thought no, I walked outsideone day this is what I hate this
cold weather and if you know me, you know me, I'm ready for
spring, I'm ready to move south.

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I don't something I hate coldweather move south.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Right now they're getting more snow than we are.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Well, that's true they are, but are, but it's
still not as cold as the thing.
I mean, it's got to be coldenough for snow.
I did see like what 10 inchesdown in Florida.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, some of these areas got.
So I saw pictures of Broadwayat the beach down in Myrtle
Beach covered A family friend ofours.
He is visiting some of hisfamily at the beach has pictures
of him making a snowman on thesand.
Oh my gosh and I'm like that'snot normal, like if you're
telling me that's a beach upnorth.
You know one of the, you knowjersey, and yeah, I can

(26:53):
understand that okay cool, I getthat, but he's, I want to say,
in one side, I don't.
I don't think he's on the gulf,I think he's, I think he's's on
um the coast side of he's not onthe Gulf of America.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
We'll go there in a minute.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Hang on, let's let's, let's finish our thoughts, I
guess.
So, uh, I could go anywhere,but uh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Snowman on the beach, love it when it's cold, and
like, oh, you can just putjackets on.
But no, I don't want jackets, Idon't want gloves, I don't want
earmuffs.
And I then?
My face is still cold, I'mstill breathing cold air, I
can't move, I'm miserable.
I want to put on my shorts, myt-shirt and go enjoy the weather
, not not snow, not cold so that, stop it.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
That is one thing that me and you will 100 million
percent always agree on,anytime.
There's that argument of wouldyou rather be, you know, a
hundred degrees, or rather be 20degrees, 100, make it 110.
I don't care, I'd much ratherbe hot than cold.
I would too, like I understand,like the.
The brutal heat can bemiserable.

(27:58):
It's draining, you're sweating,you know whatever.
But I hate the cold so much,like I hate, like your hands get
stiff, your, your body, you'relike, you don't want to do
anything, you can't function.
No, it's just it's not fun.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Anybody that likes the cold weather, like I don't
know how they do it, Like far upNorth when it gets really,
really cold and tons of snow,and I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Paul.
Paul lived in Wisconsin for along time.
Yeah, he's talking about like,oh, this is nothing.
He's out in shorts and at-shirt, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
We're Buckeyes fans.
We've talked about it.
We love that they won thechampionship.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I don't want to live there.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
If you said here's free tickets to every game if
you move here.
No, thank you.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I couldn't do it Well I that it's just too cold I.
I don't function well there.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
um, you know, because we had talked about going to
the pga show, uh down in orlandoright now but it's cold down
there, it's cold for that areafor sure, it's kind of like
rainy and because I meanobviously, you know, not
amusedused podcast.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
We're sponsored by 4U Golf, which is a top tracer
range and top tracer holds a bigevent at the PGA show.
They do it in a big awardceremony.
They hold it at one of the bigtop golf right down there in
Orlando and so we're like, ohyeah, we'd love to go to that.
You know, obviously just wasn'table to make it this year just
between some differentcommitments and you know all the

(29:25):
different stuff.
But it's way colder down therethan what we, when we were
talking about going, what weplanned on.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I don't know that we would have enjoyed it that much
with the weather.
We're still not as much.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I mean, yes, we're gonna enjoy the weather would
have definitely hurt it'sdefinitely not the you know 50s,
you know it's, it's still 30s,like yeah, it's way colder than
what I think of when I think offlorida, for sure?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
no, I don't want that .
If I, if I move somewhere againand I'm going to warmer weather
, I'm gonna go pretty far south.
I'm gonna go way on down thereI haven't looked, you know what?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
where's it?
Where's kind of the the stop ofthe snow in florida right now
uh, miami was still pretty warmthat's miami.
I mean that's way down.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's a little different.
I guess Not amused of Miami.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
That's a big move, let's go.
So me and my wife actually tooka cruise from Miami for our
honeymoon.
We got married in Kingsport.
So that drive to Miami, thatwas a trip.
That was the worst part aboutit.
I had a much if.
If I could do it again, I'dfind some richer, rich aunt,

(30:32):
uncle or whatever you know, giveme some plane tickets, cause
this, this was a long trip.
That was a hard trip.
You know, after the wedding,like you're just, you're tired,
you know, you're just, it's along, it's a big event.
So then to have to drive allthe way down there was not fun.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I kind of kid about it because I don't think if I
went, I don't think I'd go toMiami.
You know, I don't want to be ina big city.
Nobody goes to Miami.
You live outside of it but Imean I love where we live, but
when get this cold.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
That's what's a little bit hard Like.
We're not typically this cold.
We get a small stretch inJanuary, usually about a week,
but we're on like three weeksnow and it's time for it to go.
Yeah, like I'm good, like let'sget some spring weather, let's
get back to a golf course.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
So speaking of cold, yeah, speaking of cold.
How about the Kansas CityChiefs?

Speaker 1 (31:24):
We're going down that road.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I don't know why that's speaking of cold Well so
that's one thing I've beenseeing all week.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
You know they play Buffalo.
Who's used to cold in Buffalo,new York, obviously, but Kansas
City we've seen some bitter coldgames there the past few years.
That's a weird area there'sjust it's so open and it just
gets cold.
Everything freezes like it's.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
It's miserable well, the weirdest thing I saw.
I saw a picture after the gameum patrick mahomes and like one
of the head officials wereswapping jerseys or something
you know, oh, you just jumpedright into it like we weren't
even gonna like walk ourselvesin, we just jumped.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
we're just jumping into it Like we weren't even
going to like walk ourselves in.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
We just jumped both feet.
We're just jumping into itbecause Well, because when I was
saying cold.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I thought you were talking about the hands in the
officials' pockets when Buffalohad the ball because they're not
going to throw a penalty onKansas.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
City.
Is that what it is?
Yeah, it was a little differentthought.
I didn't realize they were cold.
I just thought, you know, theyweren't going to throw a bag,
that's the excuse I can't throwa flag.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
My hands were cold, I couldn't grab it that makes
sense.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
No, there's a lot of talk about it and you told me
Patrick Mahomes came out andsaid he doesn't think there's
bias in their favor.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Sometimes you're better just keep your mouth shut
.
I think now's not the time tocome out and be like oh the
officials don't give us anythingLike don't check my bank
accounts.
They don't give us anything.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
The only person that should be able to say that with
a straight face would be likemaybe a fourth of the Kansas
City fans, because even the restof the three-fourths of them
should even realize itthemselves.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I just think you watch any Chiefs highlight and I
don't feel like this has justbeen a couple weeks.
This feels like all year.
It feels like the NFL.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I feel like it's been even before this year.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
And probably I'm just trying to think of more this
year alone has been morenoticeable.
But Kansas City, it feels likethey're trying to be pushed as
the modern-day Patriots.
The NFL needs this one team toback and push, and they didn't
really have it for a coupleyears.
And then, all of a sudden, youknow, we've made Mahomes the
poster boy.

(33:29):
We've made Kansas City this,you know, trying to push them as
a dynasty.
They are not the Patriots ofTom Brady and Belichick, like
that was different.
Now don't get me wrong.
Andy Reid's a fantastic coach.
He's done really well here.
He did really well inPhiladelphia.
But some of these calls eventhe announcers at this point,
are starting to be like allright, what are we doing here?

(33:51):
It's getting a littleridiculous.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I was going to call them the Cowboys of the 90s or
something, but even then I don'tthink they got the officials
help, they just had a lot ofstars.
This is you know.
There are so many penaltiesthat maybe are close to
penalties, but then you see, ithappen to other teams.
You know, if you barely touchthe balls, it feels like.

(34:14):
And you know, if a guy extendshis arms out and pushes him down
, fine, that's a penalty if theball's been gone, but then when
you see the other quarterbackget just drilled after the
ball's gone, okay, come on, makeit make sense.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
You're still on my line there.
I used that like 10 times lastweek.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Did you?
Well, I haven't heard you sayit yet, so I thought I'd throw
it in there.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I'm trying to conserve my speaking, I guess.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Oh, is that what it is?
Okay?
Yeah, I'm leaving my qu NFL fanShocker.
We've said that before, butit's I do like the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
It's just, it's always a different feel.
So.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I just can't watch it when I feel like I'm not going
to say it's rigged, but when itfeels weird, it's tough to watch
.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, you want to talk about rigged taking, taking
a safety late game to not coverthe spread.
That feels a littlequestionable.
Okay, so I've seen especiallylike you talk about little kids
peewee football.
I've seen that play.
Because they don't punt, wecan't count on the snap.
We can't count on the punter tocatch it.

(35:20):
We can't count on a good kick.
So yeah, we don't want to giveit away, so let's get our
fastest kid, but you do it atthe end of the game too Right,
they had what 14, 15?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I think 15 seconds left.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
I don't know exactly what.
They had quite a bit of time.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
When he stepped out.
Okay, so you can punt the ballto the other team with 15
seconds left.
So they're going to, if theyfair, catch it.
Okay, they got no.
But I mean some of thosepunters hang time is like four
or five seconds.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Okay, so you snap it.
He's going to just put one high.
Yeah, it's a what?
Nine point game.
At that point, is it a 10 pointgame?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I don't remember exactly what it was.
It was somewhere around there,I think it.
But yeah, so Hunter kicks it.
Fair catch.
10 seconds to go, 11 seconds togo, somewhere in that range.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
If that, yeah, I think it's probably less, but
still Two-score game.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, they run out of the back of the end zone with
11 seconds to go.
So you gave them two points andyou're still kicking to them
with 11 seconds to go.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
As a one-possession game.
Yeah, Like touchdown andtwo-point conversion.
Now we're talking about a wholedifferent ballgame.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
That doesn't make any sense.
No, and like you said, whenit's so close to the spread,
like that, it feels odd.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
I need to call Brad about this because that's one
thing I wanted to ask him aboutwhat his thoughts were on it,
because he's definitely more ofan NFL guy.
But it just felt very weirdbecause it didn't even feel like
they ran around a bunch.
It didn't feel like they weretrying to waste a bunch of time.
He caught that ball and gotterrified when people were
running at him and he wentstraight out of the end zone

(36:55):
like it wasn't even reallydelayed okay, so it was 23 12
when they went out of the endzone 11 11 point game.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, so they made it a 9 point game.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
A 9 point game Fine, it's still a two possession game
, but what does that save you?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
The time doesn't make sense If there's 10 seconds
left and you can run around inthe end zone for 10 seconds and
then step out.
You just ended the game.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Fine, it doesn't do anything but it's the NFL You're
going to're gonna say, well,what if they block the punt,
score touchdown, get an onsidekick?
You're talking about a lot ofstuff that's got to go right
like a lot of stuff.
And here's my thing if youthink the guy might get through,
hold him.
What are they gonna do back upa few yards?
You've ran time off the clockrun time with the clock like

(37:42):
hold everybody on the field.
If you got to punt it, run thetime, because they can't put
time back on.
They may not do the mandatoryrunoff, but they can't put it
back on.
I would do that five times in arow.
Run the clock out that way yeahlike you're gonna say, oh,
that's against.
You know the game well.
If you're willing to run outfor a safety like what's, what's

(38:02):
the point?

Speaker 2 (38:03):
no, I agree and I have no problem with the play
call.
I've seen it happen.
Teams practice it.
There's certain times for itway less time that didn't feel
right for the time well, so itfeels like to me.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Which game did we watch?
Arizona State against BYU?
Was it when it's fourth down?
There's only a couple seconds,there's maybe five seconds left,
and the idea was throw it ashigh and far as you can out of
bounds.
Yeah kill time.

(38:35):
He threw it out of bounds andit hit the railing in the stands
with a second left.
So they gave the ball away andbyu had a chance for hail mary
to win.
And I'm like, at what point arewe making the decision?
Because we think, oh,everybody's gonna think I'm
really smart for this.
Why not just make the rightdecision, like there's five

(38:55):
seconds left, punt the ball outof bounds Like direct snap to
your running back, run straightbackwards.
There's only a couple secondsleft.
I feel like you can play it somuch smarter.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
It just didn't feel like the right time for that
play Too much time on the clock.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
It's probably partially just the chief hatred
that we have now.
It could be Now.
I'll say this it's probablypartially just the chief hatred
that we have now Could be Now.
I'll say this it's smart.
Brad will be very happy.
I'm about to use this reference.
It's like wrestling.
You don't want to have nofeeling towards a team.
You either want to love them oryou want to hate them.
You need, right now, kansasCity is either loved by their

(39:39):
fan base and they are loved bytheir fan base or you hate them,
same way the Patriots were.
You either loved them or youhated them.
So they're being billedcorrectly as far as there's not
much middle ground.
They don't want that becauseyou won't tune in if you have no
middle ground, you either tunein because you want to watch

(40:07):
them win or you tune in hopingthey lose.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
So I guess that part's smart, but I just feel
like there's a better way to doit.
So when you watch it, does itfeel like they're getting better
treatment from the refs and thenfl in general?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I feel like they've had the same refs a lot this
year, um, and I feel like, likethis last game, they called a
unnecessary roughness whenmahomes went to slide.
They hit each other, theydidn't even hit him oh, I know,
I saw that even the announcersare like all right, what like?
and why are we?
And and I did see a good pointcome up from it we review so

(40:36):
much already and it's notreviewed by the guys on the
field, it's reviewed by thegroup in new york.
Yeah, why can't everyunsportsmanlike conduct be
reviewed?
Oh, those should be likeimmediately.
Like there's not that many ofthose in your penalty.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
It should be reviewable, yeah what I hate
about them calling that againstany quarterback.
That's like this.
But my homes is terrible aboutfake siding.
If you're gonna side, then takewhat you get.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
So Mahomes, earlier in the year faked that he was
going to run out of bounds.
But you're going to throw apenalty if you hit the
quarterback when he's givinghimself up out of bounds, like
even before he stepped out.
If you hit him, and he's goingto do it so, like at this point,
you've got to nail everyquarterback at the sideline.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
He did that in this game.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
He was going out of bounds and he slowed up right
before he stepped out just sothe guy would run into him.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Then he just flopped down the middle.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Now, thankfully they didn't throw a penalty on that
one.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
No, but you can see what his antics are.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I did see somebody made a comment on Instagram.
How dare you compare him to theGOAT Tom Brady?
How dare you compare him to theGOAT Tom Brady?
Like Tom Brady, they show thisplay Tom Brady running down the
field, just gets his head takenoff and literally his helmet
shot 20 yards backwards.
He stood up, put his helmet on,never came out, and then they
show Mahomes from this pastweekend flopping out of bounds.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
And they're like how dare you put them in the same
mention?
Now, I have to say, since we'retalking about this because
we're fans of it, will Howardhad a little bit of a flop
himself in that game.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, I'm not quite.
And I hate flopping.
I hate it Like I can never getbehind the game of soccer,
especially men's soccer.
All they do you get nearsomebody, you breathe on them,
fall, grab my ankle, grab myknee, grab my buddy's knee, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Like everybody's hurt all the time.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
It's ridiculous.
The difference with the onewith howard is I do think it was
a penalty because he pushed off.
You know, when you extend yourarms that's a show, so that.
But that one to me, like he, hedefinitely played it up some,
yeah, but it was so far afterthe throw it was like, yeah, you
can't even touch, but that,yeah, like you're too close to
him at this point.
But that as far as quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah, I think that goes to show quarterbacks
especially, but I think it's inreceivers and everybody.
They're almost taught to.
I don't know if flop's the word, but play it up a little bit,
make it look a little worse thanit is, because if you don't,
the ref may not see it, and sothey're trying to get the
attention and say, hey, lookwhat happened.
So I don't mind if theyembellish a little bit if it's

(43:01):
an actual penalty, but don't betrying to get a penalty.
That's not there.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
But you see the linemen all the time anymore.
Like there was one I can'tremember which game it was it
was either.
No, it was an NFL game.
We were watching Baltimore andBuffalo.
Me and Amanda were on the couchwatching it, and you know it's
an NFL game.
We were watching Baltimore andBuffalo.
Me and Amanda were on the couchwatching it, and you know it's
a heated game.

(43:26):
Those are two really good teams.
There's a little bit of pushingand shoving.
Well, the defensive tackle inthe guy's face kind of hooks him
, pulls him onto him, so itlooks like the guy is just like
tackling him.
Fortunately, the ref actuallyhandled it perfectly.
He's standing right there andyou can see him kind of smirking

(43:46):
, just shaking his head, kind oflike waving him to get up.
And I'm like I'm so glad thatthat wasn't caught like out of
the corner of an eye and they'reautomatically throwing a flag.
But that's what happens Because, like, when I go back and watch
the replay, I'm like thatlooked awful, like you could
tell you bumped into him, hookedhim with one, pulled his arm
with the other right on top ofyou.

(44:06):
Like you're trying really hardjust for a penalty yeah, I think
that happens just try hard toplay football a lot of that
happens in every.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
You are not an actor.
Yeah, no basketball footballit's all bad pulling on each
other make it look like theother guy did it.
Let me flop on the ground.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
All of you people that talk about you know this
whole goat discussion of LeBronJames.
You can't flop that much and bethe goat.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
I'll just be honest with you.
I'm a hundred percent with youon that one there.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
All right.
Well, speaking of goat, I saw agraphic two days ago.
It's so.
He's talking about top 10baseball players of all time.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
I'm sitting here going.
Where are we going on goats,because you never know here,
greatest of all time.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I'm not onto the animals.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I actually don't mind goats, they're really not that
bad.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
What about the fainting goats?
I always wanted one of thosethey crack me up.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
They really do.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
I feel like it'd be really bad for it.
All the time You'd be scaringit all the time just to get it
to faint.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, just to get it to faint, because you watch
those videos like that'shilarious.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
That has to be a miserable life for a goat.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Every little thing you spend it's an animal though,
like it doesn't have the samethought, the same everything.
But yes, it's still a veryweird mechanic for an animal.
It's like, oh, I'm going toplay possum right here, but I'm
a goat, so I can't really hide.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I have a cool.
I have a good possum story man.
I had a huge possum At my housethe other night.
Looked like a dog.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
You sent me the picture of that.
That thing has been Fat andhappy somewhere.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
It found my.
He has been eating.
Well, he found my big bag ofdog food, so it looked as big as
your dog.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
It was, wasn't as, but as far as size and
circumference it was massive.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I tried to scare it off and it just looked at me.
He didn't care.
I left.
I was like I'll come back laterand see if he's gone.
He was, but he had his headdown on my big dolphin leg.
I'm going to let you eat.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
I'm going to leave you alone.
You're scaring me.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I got sharp little teeth.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
I feel like they could definitely mess you up
later, don't worry about it.
Back to goats.
I saw this graphic and it was acouple of guys talking about
the top 10 baseball players everand on both of the guys list
two guys in the top 10, 80% onboth lists were old time guys.

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I mean, you're talking yourBabe Ruth, lou Gehrig, your old,
old guys I don't know'retalking.
You know your Babe Bruce LouGehrig's, your old, old guys.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I don't know how you compare guys that old from the
old era to today's.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
But that's where.
That's where it got me thinking.
It went straight to basketballfor me, cause you know, there's
argument of Jordan LeBron.
Where does Kobe fall in?
Where does you know where'd allthese guys fall in?
But the argument against Jordanis all the time.
Well, he played against a bunchof plumbers and these guys that

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weren't very good.
But then we start talking aboutbaseball and we would say these
guys were the greatest ever.
But none of the leagues were astalented as far as across the
board there was really goodplayers and they guys like that
could translate, no matter whenthey play.
Put Jordan in today's league,he would be a different player,

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but he'd still be one of thegreatest, if not the greatest,
because those type of guys aregoing to to put the work in.
They're just, they're just,they're just better.
It's just the way they are.
So I'm not saying they wouldn'tbe good, but, for whatever
reason, I'm like all right,baseball is the only one that
would truly recognize all theseold guys as being some of the
best.
Because, like you get intofootball and we talk about all

(47:29):
these guys are really good, butthey couldn't make it today.
It's like well, they would justhave to play different.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
But yeah, they probably could, it's just
different but do you think,talking about baseball, the guys
from several years ago, canthey hit off of these pitchers
this year?
No shot.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
I don't think so either.
I think if they grew up in thesame time, I still think they'd
be some of the greats becausethey're going to adapt to it.
But if you took prime Babe Ruth, who grew up in his era against
I'm not even gonna say some ofthe studs of our era, just some,
you know, normal good pitchersthere's no way they're hitting

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some of that movement like theguys nowadays.
Everything is they spin theball so much, they have so much
rotation, so much movement it'sso hard for me to sit here and
say that they're going to hitsome of these sliders that are
moving 21 inches.
We've talked about it.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
That might be the most difficult sport is baseball
.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
trying to hit a ball In my mind the hardest thing to
do in any sport is hit abaseball.
Not just somebody soft tossSomebody throwing live at bat
baseball.
I don't think there's anythingharder in any sport.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
I think baseball.
You have such a traditionalistinvolved.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
They're just so stuck on that.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
It's one of the few sports saying don't change us.
It is Leave us where we are,don't change us.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
And they've got all these unwritten rules that
you're supposed to abide by.
I think that's part of it.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
There's no such thing as an unrule to me.
No, me neither, if it's notwrote down.
It ain't a rule Like I'm notfollowing that.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
No, guys get mad over the silliest things and you
know you flip a bat the wrongway when you hit a home run and
a home run and next thing theguy's hitting you with a
nine-pounder Again.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
I'm not as crazy about some of the huge
celebration stuff, but you knowit's part of it.
I don't mind some of the batflipping.
You're going to war againstthat pitcher.
I won.
You're going to beat mesometimes.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
If you don't want me to flip the bat, strike me out
At least don't let me hit a homerun.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
These really good hitters.
They're hitting three out often times.
Like, the pitchers are winningmore often than not, so like, of
course, they're excited whenthey when they get a win.
Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
well, I had no idea you're gonna bring this up.
Um, I told you so, my daughterstarting to work with a new
pitching coach, right, and he uhback in the 90s uh was drafted,
uh I don't think ever made toquite major league but we'll
play some triple a ball andstuff like that.
And he said he was against abatter once and a guy hits a
home run or whatever on him andhe's like man, I shouldn't have

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threw that slider.
And another pitcher comes to meand says no, no, no, you
shouldn't have threw the slider,you just should have threw a
better slider, gotcha.
And it made me think about thatin that way Placement.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
So if you're a pitcher and you're upset that
he's slipping the bat orwhatever, throw a better pitch.
Throw a better pitch.
Like you can't get upset.
Like if you strike him out youcan be excited.
You struck him out Like stopwith this.
You know we can't show anyemotion and this is rude and you
know.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Well, that's the thing I mean in life in general,
everywhere you look.
Even since I was a kid, likeeveryone has been more okay with
emotion in so many things.
But then we get to baseball andit's like there's this really
fine line.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Like college baseball .
There are so many videos atthis point of these guys hitting
home runs.
First off, these metal bats insome of these kids' hands.
They are cranking the ball theyare, and as soon as they hit a
home run, if they're not takingoff running, the refs like push
them out of the box.
And I'm like that that'sridiculous.
Like let let them have it for asecond.
It's like there's within reason.
Like don't sit there and youknow every other sport bat flip.

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You know, pimp it for two and ahalf minutes.
But you know you, you give it alittle stare, a little bat drop
and go.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Okay, fine, I don't care.
We're doing celebrations in theend zone Right.
We're screaming and flexing andbasketball when we dunk.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Like I mean some of the most famous things like you
have, like the dirty bird fromAtlanta when they scored a
touchdown, or you know Ray Lewisand some of his dances that he
did, like that, that some ofthose famous stuff of sports,
lewis and some of his dancesthat he did, like some of those
famous stuff of sports.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Why is it such a big deal?
Baseball guys see that asdisrespect and when you do it
the next time you get up the batyou're taking a 90-mile-an-hour
fastball off the bat.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
So when we talk to Will later we'll ask him,
Because he'll have you know,he'll have thoughts on it.
Yeah, but he's also verytraditionalist when it comes to
some a little bit they need somemore excitement.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
We've talked about this with golf a lot.
We need some more excitement inbaseball.
I think like I can sit down andwatch it some, but it gets a
little, um, I don't know.
I mean I don't want to sayboring, but it kind of does.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I mean so speaking, speaking of that, you got to
watch tgl for the first time.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
I did First time.
First time.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Atlanta and New York was it.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah, you can't remember the teams very well.
I know it wasn't that exciting,so all right.
Ended up.
I've given my thoughts on thepast two weeks.
I actually missed this week.
I caught maybe two holes verynear the tail end, just wasn't
able to sit down and watch itthis week.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
so for this week, let's get your thoughts on it
yeah, I, I started watching itand I knew your opinion and your
thoughts and I immediately kindof got a little bored, to be
honest with you, okay, and and Ijust stuck with it and I 100
believe they need to fill somedead space, okay, some dead air

(53:00):
time, whatever.
It is like you mentioned onlyhaving one commentator and they
need to fix that.
But as it went on, it got alittle more interesting for me
and they do some things well.
Obviously I hope it gets betteras it goes on.
But I think I found a teamalready.
I'm gonna watch this.
Okay, it might be my team, notthat's only two teams.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I've seen Early season pick of Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I'm not really that far from Atlanta.
So it's Justin Thomas Patrick.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Cantlay and.
Billy Horschel.
I did see the preview of BillyHorschel coming out.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
I mean yeah.
I mean he comes out with aDirty Bird fake necklace that's
living it.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, I mean that's actually just's necklace that's
living it.
I mean that's actually thedirty bird dance, the atlanta
stuff he done the dirty birddance stuff which he says he
rehearsed.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Uh, at the end of the match, when they won, he
actually got the other two withthe dirty bird chain on and so,
honestly it, that group was funto listen to.
They were having a good time.
They were trash talking theother guys, so that kept me in
it more than anything.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Now, if I could see that, two teams like that and a
close match, I think it wasstill 4-0.
Okay, so the little bit I tunedin.
They show the announcer.
They've done one thing alreadyNight, one man's in a suit.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Okay, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
So the other night he's in a golf hoodie.
He looks like he's about to goout and play some holes.
Yeah, and I'm like, all right,we're on the, we're on the right
path.
Like there there's some thingsit's like all right, we're
trying to to make it a littlebit Um.
One thing I still don't likethe the referee that they're
using.
He's a career NBA guy, like why, why are we?

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Why are we using him as a ref?
I don't know why we have a ref.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
I can't figure out what he does.
So I want a ref.
But you know who I want.
Who I want?
Charles Barkley.
Oh, that'd be awesome.
I want Charles Barkley some waysomehow involved in this,
whether he's in the booth, but Ialso think, kevin Kisner in the
booth.
You put Kis and Barkley in thebooth.
Just that's some of the bestcommentary in all sports.
I think that'd be fantastic.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I'd love to see that.
Yeah, and I think what they'redoing is they want to get the
players more involved in you.
They want to hear more of theplayers, but most of them are
not good at that.
That's not what they do.
They've never done that.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Well, so did you see yesterday or today here?
Very recently, justin Thomasput out a letter to a bunch of
other players saying we need todo a better job with media.
We need to give them moreaccess to us on the course,
basically trying to get guysmore comfortable with that.
Because that's the thing.
He's pretty good at it.

(55:33):
He knows how to speak.
He's very well spoken, but he'svery relatable.
He cuts up.
He's a well-spoken, but he'svery relatable.
He cuts up.
He's a fun type guy.
A lot of the golfers don't havethe personality for that, and
especially that New York team,ricky Fitzpatrick and Cam Young.
They're a boring squad.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Fitzpatrick struggled , he struggled a couple times,
though it's their second matchalready and just watching his
demeanor he wasn't real happyand I got the impression like a
couple shots that end up short,like he hit one in the water,
come up real short.
He didn't think it should havebeen that short.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, there was a bunker shot.
I saw him into the water and heimmediately was like that might
have been it, yeah.
Like that shouldn't have comeout that way.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yeah, scott's impression.
He's like, yeah, I'm betterthan this and we see it.
You know, when guys use toptracers, sometimes they think
they know how far they hit itand they really see their
numbers.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
So I guess it's different for a pro, like pros
know their numbers, especiallyFitzpatrick.
That dude is as statistical asthey come.
I mean he's wrote down thestats of every single shot he's
ever hit.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
So like on a shot like that.
Do you think he just the statsof every single shot he's ever
hit?
So like on a shot like that doyou think he just like he would
know if he missed it right?

Speaker 1 (56:42):
So I think that's where you see, at times even the
best of simulators sometimesread a little funny Like
sometimes they don't read spinas great, sometimes they don't
read the contact as great.
I think technology's come along way, but I think that's
exactly right.
I think it's part of it.
It's come a long way, but Ithink that's exactly right.
I think it's part of it.
Now for the pros.
I'm surprised you don't seethem have some type of thing of

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like they can throw basically achallenge flag of like hey, I
get a re-hit.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
I don't think that was right.
One shot around, maybe.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Sometime like a mulligan.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
I'd be okay with that .

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Because, like he was very surprised on that shot,
like very surprised on that shot, like when I watched it it
sounded like he made really goodcontact, so I was a little
surprised for it to be.
It was like 30 yards short intothe water.
It's very weird.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
so I didn't know how they did the bunker and the
rough yeah okay, those make nosense to me.
Why is that?
Because the rough is barely arough um well, so it depends.
They've got the front rough inthat back rough okay, all I saw
was the back rough, okay, but itwas barely rough.
The the bunker was like flatsand.

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I mean, yeah, they got thislittle lip they have the lip
that, but it ain't.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
It goes up in front, depending on what the hole is
not that much of a lip.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
But then I see the guys walk over and just lay
their ball right on top In thesand.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
They place it and I did see a clip this morning
actually Fitzpatrick in the sandplacing his ball down and JT
walks over and hands him a teeand says, hey, you want to tee
that up.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Oh, I didn't see that part and I was like that was
good.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
And we didn't hear it very well, Like they didn't put
that on there.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
That should have been on there.
That's what we need to hear.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
And it's very frustrating when you get the
really good lines, and it waskind of just in passing by JT
was great with it, billyHorschel was great and then
Cantley.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
because of them two, I think he kind of got pushed
along with them.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
He's not one by himself, but I think depending
on who he's with could be good.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Yeah, they kind of pushed him along a little bit.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Because I feel the same with Ricky and those guys.
But he was out this week.
He's out of the tournament.
This week he withdrew so he'sbeen having a little bit of
injury.
He's been going through.
But he's another one of those.
Getting with the right group hecould be fun, but he's with a
very just dull group it would behard.
Fitzpatrick, to me, is one ofthose that I don't think he's in

(58:54):
it next year.
I don't think he continues.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
I don't think so.
There's a few guys that I thinkwill back out.
I think the guys playing andthe group that's kind of over it
, the producers or whoeverthey're going to figure out who
works and who doesn't.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Well, I think you've got to add some live guys.
Bryson, I think would be ablast in this.
I do too.
I think Brooks Koepka would begood in this, because he's he's
again.
He's very dry, but get him withthe right group.
He's got little numberingpatrick reed over to you.
Can't put him in a bunker, Imean he'll he'll.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
He'll have the best lie there.
He's gonna build sank.
I think he's gonna saysomething about it, yeah I mean
the main carries a shovel.
You know I'm I'm still learninghow the whole process works.
Um, you know, I don't know whythey continued to play it out.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
I didn't expect them to play it out when it was
already over but they went aheadand played it out, even though
once it was, I think it's justprobably a time slot.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah, I mean I'm not sure.
They said it was the firstmatch they've had that nobody
threw out the hammer, so I don'treally know what that is or how
that works.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
So did you see?
It's a we got to come up withsomething better.
We've got to come up withsomething better.
If you're going to call it thehammer, it can't be a towel, it
needs to be a hammer.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
I saw it.
It was in JT's pocket A yellowtowel.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
That's called the hammer.
If you throw the hammer beforea hole, it has to be accepted
and the hole is now worth twopoints.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
What if you don't make it?
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
So at the very end last putt, it's already over
whenever jt says, hey, do youwant to throw the hammer down
now?
And he said, what does itmatter?
I don't matter.
And the other guy said, well,we can.
It can only hurt us now at thispoint, and so I didn't quite
understand I don't know ifthey're doing like a point
differential for playoffs orokay, something like that across
the whole.
I don't know what it would havebeen um but yeah, so the hammer

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.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
If you throw it during the hole after somebody's
teed off, like say, I t off ona par three, hit it to six
inches, I'm gonna throw thehammer because I'm gonna put a
lot of pressure on you if youdecline it okay, so now, no
matter who wins, they get tohang on, I'm getting there, all
right, okay if you decline it,the hole is immediately over.

(01:00:55):
I get one point okay if there'sno shots been hit yet and I
throw it, you can't decline it,it's automatically in, okay.
But then it switches teams.
Every time it's thrown likethere's some strategy to it,
it's just again.
If we're gonna have this cool,like hey, it's this, it's this,
it can't be a rag in the back ofsomebody's pocket, like it's

(01:01:15):
got to be something.
So I didn't know what, switchback and forth and stuff like
that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
So yes, you know that one of the uh commentators, or
somebody, asked jt, you knowwhat you're playing with it?
He said you don't worry aboutit, we'll do it, um, but he they
never, never got it out.
Um, they were really big onwanting to keep a shutout and jt
made a couple long putts tokeep it but it was a big deal,
for there's a highlight I saw ofa putt he hit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
If he didn't hit the hole, it was off the back of the
green he I would love to seehow the green works.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I know, you know, I think you told me they mentioned
that it moves different stuff.
It always looked like the samegreen to me no, so the green
itself rotates.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
It's on a giant rotating board like uh but does
it always have the same break?

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I mean, I know it can rotate around the front or back
, but so underneath the greenthey basically have like 600
jacks so they can adjust, makeit so if I put a 10 foot putt.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
I can make it straight.
I can make it break early.
I can make it break the middle.
I can make it break.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
However, they had like a false front on one, and
then I saw that in the back ofanother one, but it was the same
.
So there's they.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Every green is shaped like a kidney, is what they say
, but it depends on theorientation of it, gotcha.
So sometimes the bunker couldbe in the back, sometimes you
have to get over the bunker,sometimes it's left or right.
It just it just depends on thehole, cause none of these holes
are real holes.
They made them all themselves.
Cause otherwise, it'd be reallyhard to you know.
Well, here's number seven atPebble.

(01:02:42):
You know the short par threeand then you look at a green and
it's not the exact same.
That'd be hard.
Especially these guys that haveplayed holes like that so much
they know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Yes, yeah for me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
I ain't got a clue.
I don't know what hole seven atPebble looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
I mean, there's some things I next week, but I think
a lot of that was because ofthat team, the Atlanta team, and
those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Oh, you've got to watch next week.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Actually I saw too.
Jt asked.
He's like, hey, do we have abunch of these pins?
And the Atlanta team all signedthe flag and gave the whole pin
to a kid in the crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
It was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
But yes, next match Tiger's second.
So you've got Tiger withJupiter and Rory with Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Yeah, but now it's on a Monday at 630.
Why are we switching the timeso much?
I don't know.
Was it because of football?

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Was that why I was getting messed up that I'm not
sure, but next week we'retalking about Tiger and Rory.
But you know who else playsnext week?
I'm not sure, maybe they won't,but next week we're talking
about Tiger and Rory.
But you know who else playsnext week Captain America Ryder
Cup.
Captain Keegan Bradley is onBoston.
Okay, didn't know that, sowe'll get to see him there.
He was actually there last weekwatching Tiger, kind of just

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getting the feel for the place.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I could see Tiger being probably fun.
I'm sure he'll say whatever hethinks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
So the Barstool Sports guys have a video here
recently with Tiger, becausethey're sponsored by TaylorMade,
obviously so is he, and he hadone of the greatest little
one-liners.
That kind of got passed.
That was absolutely hilarious.
You know it's Trent and Frankieand Riggs were the three that
were there.
Well, frankie only wears pants.
No matter the temperature, nomatter what, he only wears pants

(01:04:26):
.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
I've never seen anybody like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Well, yeah, because usually the other way around,
like you, you'll only wearshorts, I like to wear shorts.
Well, you know, tiger's outthere in a pair of shorts, like
he's just out there, relaxed,you know, having a good time,
he's caddying time, he's cattingfor them.
Well, they one of the guys thathit it kind of off left rough
and they're over there talking.
Well, trent brings up.
You know, we got to get frankieinto shorts and he's like no, I
get it, I get it.
And you know, kind of inpassing, he's like does he have,

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uh, ob stakes down there you'retalking about?

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
white stakes.
I'm like that was good, like itwas just quick, like he didn't
have to sit on it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I think he could be funny now, I think, when we get
him versus JT, because they'rereally good buddies oh, that'll
be good.
That one could be, because,again, rory's not a big
personality guy, so I don't knowhow that's going to go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
They need at least one on every team, so maybe
they've got to adjust the teamsnext year.
Get some different people.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
I'm just wondering, like maybe do we really just buy
into the entertainment side andsay let's put two pros and a
celebrity as a team.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
That'd be fun, or I don't understand that.
So there's four in every team,right?
I don't quite understand thatwhen the fourth one comes in, or
?

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Well, it's always three v three, but some of the
guys have engagements elsewhereor you know sponsorship stuff.
They have to be somewhere else.
So they have four, so they canalways fill a team.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
But, they have four so they can always fill a team.
It's kind of like what youtalked about before, with NBA
stars sitting and stuff.
If Atlanta's my team and I wantto turn around and watch you or
I want to go be there in person, and now JT or somebody's not
there, I feel a little bit like,okay, I'm not loving this as
much.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
I'm having a hard time that TGL is pushing these
teams and team names and teammerch and not a single player
out there is wearing any of themerch.
The only people wearing it isin the stands and I'm like, if
they can't be bothered, why am Igoing to pay the outrageous
amount of money for a t-shirt ora hat or whatever, like it

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drives me nuts.
I can't stand something likethat.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
It's so simple I'm not going to.
It's so simple.
I did see, too they wereadvertising.
Uh, I don't remember what dayit was.
There's going to be like threematches on the same day, I think
it is, and uh, might be atlanta, or somebody has a double
header back to back, likethey're playing two rounds, and
I mean that's not really muchfor them.
Like those guys play a lot ofgolf no, I agree with you, but
it was kind of weird that theywere just shoving everything in

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one day like that all right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Speaking of the merch , real quick I went to their
website.
I didn't realize it was okay.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
I need me atlanta some lana.
Oh, I'm on atlanta drive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Okay, atlanta drive gc right here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
It's funny, I I didn't know, they were called
drive, so yeah, so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
So.
Atlanta Drive GC Atlanta DriveGolf Club.
Okay, $79.99.
This looks like a t-shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
That's $80.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I don't want that that looks like a.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
It looks like a soccer jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
It reminds me of the old school athletics baseball
jerseys or something.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Okay, Okay.
So here's a true t-shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Very simple $50.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
I'm not buying that that's expensive for a t-shirt
yeah, of somebody I don't evenokay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
So here's the thing.
Started this thing I knowmyself.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
You know me when I pick a team.
I'll have a t-shirt, yeah I'msure I mean just, I don't care,
it's 50 I'm not paying 80, but Ibut I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Eventually they'll run a sale or something I'll
pick one up Are there going tobe any knockoffs at the flea
market or something?

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
My wife will make one yeah there we go.
She's got all kinds ofcapabilities.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Tiger Woods is going to be knocking on the door,
knocking off our merch.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Hang on, he's got his own a little bit of that,
that's right.
Um, the the cat stuff is a bigissue right now, so I.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
They got an argument against tiger.
Be honest with you, they doit's really close.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
So I saw the Barstool guys again, huge tiger fans
they're, with Taylor made.
They're all about Sunday red,sunday Red, which is Tiger's
company.
They said if I'm a lawyer whichthese guys are nowhere close to
anything like that they're notgoing to be that type.
If I'm a lawyer, first thing Ido is I walk into court and say

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it's facing a differentdirection.
Just because they're both catsdoesn't mean they're the same
Case closed and I'm like hang on, guys.
It don't work that way.
These logo lawsuits are goingto last years and there's way
more to it than as simple aswe're not even facing the same
direction, Like these guys haveso many patents and trademarks

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on these things that one littletiny piece could be the same and
it throws out the hole.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
I don't know why tiger didn't make clearly a
tiger like you, like an orangeand black because it's not fancy
enough.
But you know, puma has the thekind of jumping cat already but
to me that's the whole thing is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
It's like he's pushing cashmere and high, very
high end stuff like his stuff.
I will never own it becauseit's not gonna be at marshall's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
So then like I can't, I can't go buy sunday red at
marshall's if I could, I'll getsome why would he want to be
confused with puma himself, likehe should want his brand to
stand out above them his wholething.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Like the stripes are for certain or for like the
majors, he's won and it's youknow.
There's a whole meaning to thewhy it's designed that way.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
If it's not jumping.
The case closed.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
It's not my favorite design that they could have went
with, by no means.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
While we're on the topic of golf, I kind of
mentioned this a bit.
We're on golf, so there'ssomebody else that's a golfer
coming to our area on Friday.
Oh yeah, the 47th president.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Donald Trump.
Donald Trump will be in westernNorth Carolina.
He's coming to look at, I guess, all the flood stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Yeah, some of the, some of the Hurricane Helene.
I think he's going to be in theAsheville area in those
outskirts that got somehurricane damage.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
I mean people can say what they want to say, but I
mean we saw at the range we wereworking out there after all the
damage.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Biden and Cooper flew by, they, flew over they can
say what they want.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
We saw them come by.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
We knew they was in there that day and it was
clearly there Unless thehelicopter was empty.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
There's no other way that you see the formation that
they were the helicopters thatit was.
It was them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
And he was scheduled to be in around that time,
correct?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
So again, this is not us saying one side or the other
.
It's literally just kind ofcool for the area.
Anytime a president comes visit, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
It is, yeah.
Whether you like the presidentor not, he's still the president
, well, so?

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
that's something I've struggled with all week and I
know it was a bit different thisyear.
Inauguration Day was on MLK, soit was already on a holiday.
It was.
I don't understand whyInauguration Day in itself is

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not a holiday, whether you likethe president who's going in or
not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
It's definitely a monumental day.
It's a huge thing for thecountry.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Like again it doesn't matter if you're Republican,
democrat, whatever, you stillrespect the position you should.
Yes, so if you were a fan ofBiden or not, or a fan of Trump
or not, they're still thepresident.
That's a position that Ipersonally feel you respect.
Yeah, a fan of Trump or not,they're still the president.
That's a position that Ipersonally feel you respect.
Yeah, so I don't understand whywe don't have some type of

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small, because it's only onceevery four years, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah, why do we not?

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
have an inauguration day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
We literally have a president's day, right, so that
that to me is just a bit odd.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I've thought about this a lot this week because
it's it's something very simple.
But why don't we Like, whydon't we make that a bigger deal
?
Because it's shown on TV likecrazy.
It's all day, I mean every newsstation.
It was like all day talkingabout it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Well, they have full events.
Yeah, you know all day long.
And then you know this happenedto also be the same day as the
college football nationalchampionship, so that was uh I
still wonder if jd vance wasable to sneak off and go to the
game hopefully at least got towatch it on his phone.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Like he's a busy day, I get it.
They were doing something allday long.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
But I just wonder, like I'd be perfectly fine if
you know he got to watch some ofthe game or make it over to the
game.
I think a lot of people wouldhave loved it that'd be cool uh,
I did see a video.
He made a comment that he'dnever seen the Oval Office and
they took a video of him goingin for the first time with Trump
.
It was kind of cool to see thatmoment.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
I guess it makes sense.
It's not like everybody getsinvited there.
Yeah, that's a prettyprestigious area.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
If I'm not mistaken, he's originally from maybe
Kentucky and then as a kid movedto Ohio or something like that.
So it's probably a big deal forsomebody like that.
You know they come from thatbackground and when I say
kentucky, like the mountains ofkentucky yes, yeah, he's from
like small, like a big.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Yeah, not like, that's probably cool for
somebody like that I do know.
I heard a rumor and I reallyhope it's true.
So remember, a while back,bryson had trump on his youtube
channel and they did a breaking50 episode.
The rumor is Trump is going tolet Bryson on property one day

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100 shots to try to make ahole-in-one over the White.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
House Over the White House.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
That would be awesome For me.
Again, whether you like Trumpor not, that's content Like.
I would love to see Bryson onthe lawn out front trying to hit
over the White House.
It's Bryson.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
The man's not going to shank it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
I feel like he should , he should.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
He's an avid golfer, I mean it only makes sense Now
he might put one in the windowand be like oops.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
I think he can afford to fix it, I to fix it.
I think it's okay that, or ourtax dollars will.
One of the two, that's true.
But yeah, I feel like thatwould just be cool to watch.
It was very polarizing Brysondoing the shot over his house.
It has sparked a milliondifferent people doing
challenges like that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
I still think we should do one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
I mean I've got a few ideas of one, it's just it's
been so cold.
I didn't want to do it out hereand I've got like a little kids
playhouse out here.
It's, like you know, three foottall, as long as you put
something I can't break, because, yeah, I'm gonna shank a few
like I'm not that level.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
I mean this is short enough, we just do a little chip
over it.
You don't even have to hit afull shot.
Flop shot over the kids house.
Yeah, be over the house.
Nobody said what kind of housethis is true.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Kind of want to try one over my car too, though,
just for the fun of it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Oh, I'm not trying to over my car, no that's why I
said my car.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I'm not worried about my car.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Okay, I'll try one over your car, I'm not worried
about my car the same way.
But yeah, I just feel likeBryson trying to hit a
hole-in-one over I don't knowhow you let him or any person do
something like that, becausethen you'd get so many requests.
Yeah, but at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Bryson has connections.
Once Trump agreed to come onhis channel, he's kind of got it
in.
You can't hate on people forthe connections they make.
I mean, it's just part of it.
I mean, I feel like everypresident has people that they
like, or let do a little bitmore than everybody else got to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
It'd be entertaining for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
I think it'd be fun to watch.
I mean, I think we need to makeit a live event.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
I'm all for it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Bryson calls We'll we'll come, we'll come.
Do live live.
Commentary for you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Yeah, We'll do not amuse from the uh, the event
there?

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
I don't I, but they can be like who are you?
Shot 92.
Here we go again.
Well, it's kind of like.
Will sent me a video today.
So the Bob Does Sports guys onYouTube they're obviously
growing huge.
I mean they're so funny towatch.
But one of the other YouTubegolfers, grant Horvat, just did

(01:15:57):
a video with Rory McIlroy.
Well, bob sees Rory outsomewhere, somewhere he takes
the opportunity, rolls down hiswindow.
Hey, man, saw, you know,appreciate you coming on youtube
, saw the video you did, lovedit and you know him being him.
He's like hey, you know youever seen bob does sports and
rory went, nope and bob justgoes oh and it's just like it

(01:16:20):
shut him down.
Okay, never mind and he's like Idon't know if we're closer to
having him on the show or if Ijust ruined our chances.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
He's like I don't know at this point, but it's one
of the two either he's gonnathink that guy's crazy I'm not,
I don't care what he is or he'sgonna get intrigued and go let
me see.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
So I think it's fantastic for those guys to come
on some of these because you'restarting to get it makes it
more personal.
Like you can, you can start tosee them in a different light
than this tournament atmosphere.
Yeah, where they're well,that's what quiet locked in
social media done that forpretty much every sport.
Yes, or musician, or whateverit is you do it gave you know

(01:16:56):
the human side of the athleteyeah not just this behind the
scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
You're the best at this sport, and that's all we
know yeah, and some of theseguys, you know you hate them,
you know they say don't meetyour uh your heroes yeah,
because they'll disappoint youreal quick you ever met.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
I see, I don't really have heroes like that, like I.
I don't know that I admire someof these people, but I don't
consider that like a hero yeah Imean, there's you met any like
big time famous, like, not evenlike like college?
Or like I mean any big timefamous Not even like college?

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
I mean like big time famous?
I don't think so, not that Ican recall.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Anyways, we've got to meet some better people.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Clearly we do, if we don't even have anybody to say.
But I'm afraid they'll be jerksand then I'm going to be ruined
.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
I've met Cliff Williams from ACDC he was really
nice.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
He was a cool guy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
But I mean, obviously I only met him because he lives
fairly local to here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
I guess it depends on We've got a few people here.
What does meet mean?
I saw them Well.
I mean I actually got to talkto him, like shake his hand.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Yeah, that's a little different, but to me it's
almost like yeah, I mean, Iactually got to talk to him,
like shake his hand.
Yeah, that's a little different, but to me it's almost like
yeah, I mean as simple as.
To me it's like face-to-face,even if it's just an autograph
or something small.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
I got an autograph from Tim McGraw when I was a kid
.
That's pretty cool.
He was at an outdoor festivalwhere I lived in Georgia and we
went and then afterwards therewas a line you could go.
He sat on the steps of his tourbus If I remember right, he's
like in shorts and a t-shirt andball cap, you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
I mean, it means absolutely nothing to me because
it's country music.
Yeah, he just walked by and hewas.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
I always knew who that is yeah, and back that was
you know mid-90s.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Age yourself Mid-90s Age yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
So he was, he was a big deal back then.
You know it was it was a bigdeal, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Um so like I I've.
I've gotten like autographsfrom Andy Roddick, roger Federer
, rafael Nadal, like some youknow big tennis guys.
You know me and my dad actuallydrove to Cincinnati one year
for a U S open, you knowpre-tournament, and got to see
all those guys and that was aton of fun.
I also remember it was thesummer, July or August,

(01:19:03):
something like that inCincinnati it was like 102.
It was miserable, but again,I'd still rather be hot than
cold.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
It was worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
It was a lot of fun because one of those it's a much
smaller tournament.
Something we really haven'ttalked about at all on the
podcast is tennis.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
That's something I don't really follow much.
I grew up playing tennis.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Played a little bit in college.
I still love tennis.
It's just hard because all theguys that I really watched and
grew up really thinking about,they're all gone now, with the
exception of Novak Djokovic.
He's still around, butFederer's retired retired.
Nadal's retired.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
But those guys were so big that Even somebody like
me that didn't follow tennisdidn't really play tennis I
still knew who they were.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
To me, especially Federer and Nadal, it's almost
like Tiger Woods.
You don't play the sport.
You don't know the sport, butyou know who they are.
They were bigger than that.
It's Serena Williams.
Whether you know who they are,yeah, they're, because they just
they were bigger than that it's.
It's serena williams yep likethe williams sisters whether you
know tennis at all, you knowwho serena williams is.
You just do um and there's noquestion she is the greatest
female tennis star ever.

(01:20:11):
Yeah, like she's.
She's incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Um, shout out to brad , and he always had a crush on
serena oh really he alwaysthought she was great um well,
now that you're getting older,are you thinking about going
into pickleball?

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Will you ever?

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
I'm too competitive.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
You can still be competitive.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
So my mom plays.
If I go play with mom, me andher won't be friends.
Okay, because if she doesn'tplay as hard as I feel like she
should, I just don't feel likeit would be good Mom's go.
Um, we're down to.
Yeah, like I don't want to yellat my mom on pickleball court.

(01:20:49):
That'd be really bad.
Um, no, I I don't see myselfgoing there, um, because it's
it's very similar to tennis, butI'm gonna play it like tennis
and from what I've seen, thatmakes a lot of people mad, like
especially because it's such anold, old person sport.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
They just want to volley back and forth.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
They just they're doing a lot of that.
Like to me, like if I'mvolleying, I'm putting in your
feet, I'm putting your.
Like, like in tennis, it's,it's.
You put the point away, yeah.
Like there's times that youknow you're just returning it,
it's back and forth, but there'stimes like hey, it's, it's time
to end the point.
So I'm gonna end the point.
I don't like to sit here andjust let's just have fun.
No to me, if I'm not winning,it's not fun it's not fun.

(01:21:24):
You gotta win like forpickleball, for me like and
again, my wife doesn't want meto have another hobby, because
then I'm gonna buy paddles andI'm gonna buy yeah, all this
stuff, you have enough golfstuff.
She probably wants you to stickwith that for now yeah, I mean,
don mean, don't get me wrong,I'm always looking for something
else, but that's just notsomething.
I feel like I want to go to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
But I wonder, you know, we had tennis, mm-hmm, and
we had Badminton.
No, ping pong, ping pong, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Don't get started on ping pong.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
I didn't realize we needed something else between
the two.
I thought if you couldn't playtennis, go play ping pong.
But somebody somewhere said youknow, I need a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
I really do get the idea and I think it's actually
really smart because it's somuch smaller.
Like you know, again, nothingagainst my mom, but you know
she's older now.
Tennis would be just a lot ofback and forth running.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
It's a large court.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
So this being such a small court, allows especially
the older generation to kind ofkeep that same feel.
Like some of these guys I grewup playing tennis with at the
local racquet club here, they'vekind of switched over now
playing pickleball because theyjust don't have it in their
knees anymore, just don't havethat same maneuverability.
So they switched over and theystill feel like they're kind of

(01:22:43):
doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
So is pickleball kind of the senior tease on the golf
course you know kind of get youa little smaller.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Here's the thing Pickleball yeah, I'm dropping
stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Why do we have stuff falling on you?
What is the noise going on here?

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
It's bouncing, it's clicking, it's all over the
place.
The thing is like professionalpickleball is a huge thing right
now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Like there's a lot of .
I've never watched it and Ireally couldn't tell you to play
it.
I mean, I get the premisebecause it's like tennis, yeah,
I know most of it, but there's afew things I'm unsure about.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
But it's all these like see, that seems weird to me
, like if you can go down, justgo play tennis.
So it is different, it's thesame thing.
Like you can't dominate pingpong and dominate tennis like
it's.
So it's, it's very different.
Play style, like they'rebasically playing like a ping
pong, not ping pong like awiffle ball in pickleball.
So it's, it's very different,whereas tennis, you know, it's a
basically a rubber ball and atrampoline that you're hitting
with.
Yeah, it's a lot you cangenerate a lot of power, so it's
very, very different.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Should we do this with other sports, Like can we
go basketball and make aneight-foot goal maybe?
Oh, have you seen that?
I don't know.
Smaller basketball, no, is thata thing?
All right?
So?

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
I started seeing this on Instagram.
There are these like like,basically like kind of like they
do the summer league here, themen's league they used to do.
There are these leagues, eightfoot goal, leagues that are like
30, 30s men's leagues, eightfoot goals, and it's these dudes
out here just living the glorydays dunking all kinds like

(01:24:14):
throwing oops off of things,it's.
It's one of those and I'm likeI don't need that near me
because I would try it, becauseobviously I can't dunk anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
I don't think I could shoot on eight foot goal,
wouldn't that be so weird?

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
So it's not that bad Like you would get used to it
pretty quick Because once you'reshooting basketball you can
kind of make it work.
But the first time I saw itthere's this dude that I'm like
he has no business dunking andhe's doing some pretty good
dunks and I'm like that's not 10foot.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
So I started watching it and it's like that's
hilarious.
I saw a clip of Tom Bradydunking on something and they
said something about it being 8or 8 1⁄2 feet.
Maybe that's what it was orsomething like that I didn't
know that was a real thing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
I saw this one dude you could tell he's a baller, he
plays basketball, he's done andhe's super athletic and he's
like double between the leg 360on this eight-foot goal.
I'm like all right, that wouldtake the fun out of it for me
because like, yeah, eight foot,I could dunk easy.
I mean I'm 6'4" already, armsreach like I'm almost there, ten

(01:25:12):
foot anymore.
I just don't have the hop forit.
So it would be fun if I couldplay with a bunch of guys like
me, like older, like older youknow my age not playing with a
bunch of 18, 19 year old kidsthat are, you know, jumping over
me to dunk.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Well, that's I feel like with pickleball you're
talking about the the youngerkids kind of dominate that.
I think it was kind of made fora certain group and let's just
leave it with that group.
Let kids go back to playingwhat you're playing.
That's just the way it works,though.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
If there's some kind of sport out there, somebody's
going to try to dominate it, andit's usually going to be
somebody younger, becausethey're either going to devote
the time to it or, naturally,pick up the skill to it More
athletic, get there, you know,move faster, it just happens.
Yeah, no, I get that.
Yeah, they're faster moving,they're better hand-eye
coordination you know whatever.
No, pickleball is not somethingthat I've tried yet.
It's probably not somethingthat I will give much of a try.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Not yet.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Not until you get a little older.
That's the thing.
I can play golf until I die.
I can be as old as I want andplay golf.
It's not something I'm going topick over golf.
I'm still way too into golf tothen want to go pull my time to
something else.
That would be hard.
That would be hard.
That definitely hard.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
I can see that I've not had a desire to play
pickleball at all either.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Um, so I kind of mentioned earlier and we kind of
went away from it, end ofJanuary, march Madness coming
soon.
You had mentioned SEC footballbeating up on each other.
Sec basketball is basicallydoing the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Everybody but Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
If you can hear the bias in his voice.
I saw it on his face Like thehatred towards Cal on his face
right there was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
There's no hatred towards Cal.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
But you're really glad he's failing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
I'm not glad he's failing um, but I think it's um.
Uh, what's the word vindication?

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
can't have your cake and eat it too at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Yeah it's, it's.
Everybody said kentucky fansare crazy cows, cow.
What are you doing?
You're never gonna get nobodyelse and I really expected him
to go somewhere else.
And you know, when you gosomewhere new, you get this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
You're rejuvenated you get this new energy.
I see that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
And I really expected him to go do that and I was
perfectly fine with it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
So I've always been a little bit different about Cal,
which I'm not a UK fan.
Obviously, Cal underperformedso much at kentucky and I made
this comment to you the otherday the fact that he didn't have
five or six championships to memeans he failed it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
He had one, you might be right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
I mean, I can't argue like everybody's like well, we
made the final four cool.
You got a runner-up trophy.
It was very exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
Those was very exciting, those first, I don't
know, 10 years.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
There was a couple down years here and there.
Yeah, which that's going tohappen, it's normal.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
But, yeah, a lot of Elite Eights, final Fours.
You know the one championship,but you're probably right when
you look back at all the playersthat came out of there and all
of them that are in the NBA now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Right, I about Cal Recruiting wise.
He's one of the best.
The man can recruit these kidslike crazy, but he never did a
whole lot with them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
No, you're right.
I thought about this.
When Cal was leaving Kentucky,they went and talked to UConn's
coach Hurley.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
By the way, Brian, save that spot where he just
said I'm right, I need that forlater.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Anyhow the disgust.
They talked to Hurley and Hurleydidn't want to come.
And I think this is like threedifferent ways.
So if Hurley comes to Kentucky,it's this immediate you've got
to win now, which is trueBecause he'd been winning at
UConn, so I completelyunderstand why he didn't come.
And that's because he just wonnow, which is true Because he'd

(01:29:02):
been winning at UConn.
So I completely understand whyhe didn't come.
And when you know that'sbecause he just won
championships.
When Mark Pope came to Kentucky, he'd done some, but nothing
great.
There was no high expectations,so he could just walk in and so
other than the UK expectations.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Yeah, but Other than just the natural.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
You know they kind of .
They turned out to be better, Ithink, this year than most
people thought.
If they just lost several games, nobody would be like, oh, it's
the first year he put togethera team, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Well, especially knowing he had no team when he
showed up.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
I agree with that, hurley coming off this like he
just killed it at the school.
You got Mark Pope, who just notwon a championship or anything.
But then you got Arkansas, whopulled in Cal and said, oh, it's
Cal, he's going to do this.
But what was Cal doing fiveyears before you brought him?
It wasn't like he was killingit at Kentucky when you got him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
So I guess for me, the way I see it, at Arkansas
they're almost just trying toget more notoriety to that
program because Cal's a big name.
So Arkansas here in the pastseveral years have had what was
the coach's name.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Yeah, he left Musselman, or Was it?

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Musselman, that was there, something like that.
Yeah, really good coach, Ican't remember who was there
Really grew Arkansas basketballa lot.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
I'm not going to look it up.
Who's that Alabama?

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
That's Nate Oates.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Yeah, so Musselman was on Arkansas.
So Musselman was on Arkansas,yeah, yeah, that's right, he
went out west.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
Yes, he did.
Yeah, so he really grewArkansas basketball a ton.
It's not like they went out andgot like a current big-time
coach, they just went and got abig name.
Yeah, so it brings somenotoriety and you know he's
going to bring players, butdoesn't it bring?

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
negative notoriety at this moment, because, yeah,
it's Cal, but now the spotlightis on him so much and it's not a
good look, right?

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
now Maybe, but I mean the whole thing of that whole.
You know, any publicity is good.
Publicity is maybe what they'replaying off of.
But I don't think Arkansas wasexpecting to win a championship
this year.
I don't think they brought cowwas like we're gonna win this
year I hope not um, I don'tthink he ever gets one at
arkansas.
Personally, I don't think that'snecessarily the place that

(01:31:08):
you're drawing.
You know five of the top tenstoo, so I think it's gonna be a
little bit tougher, but I thinkhe could do well there.
Um.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
I thought he would do well and, to be honest with you
, like I said, I loved Cal thefirst years, even towards the
last part at Kentucky when hewas struggling.
I still wanted him to do well,I still thought he'd turn it
around and, to be honest withyou, I'm kind of sad.
It's sad to see him go fromUMass to Memphis to Kentucky and

(01:31:40):
what he was doing, and it justcompletely drop off and he goes
somewhere else and he stilldon't have it.
Maybe he gets it back, maybe hedoesn't, that's regardless.
But staying in the SEC, likeyou said, the SEC is just so
good it's loaded right now.
That's part of it.
Probably maybe if he's in adifferent conference.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida,
Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Georgia's put themselves in there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Arkansas has been ranked off and on.
Ole Miss, mississippi State.
Vanderbilt, I mean like it's apretty tough conference right
now, so it's I'm curious to see.
I mean they'll probably getnine into the tournament Like
it's going to be interesting.
So I'm over here listening toyou talk about Cal being gone.

(01:32:24):
I'm still dreaming, knowingit's not possible, but dreaming
Roy Williams returns.
The struggle is real in ChapelHill and we've got to figure
something out.
I don't know what that lookslike.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
You mentioned it before.
It's tough, you know, don'thire within.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
So I think there's.
I don't necessarily think it'sbad.
So, carolina, for those thatdon't know, if you're not a Tar
Heel basketball fan or reallyfollow them whatsoever, carolina
will only hire a Carolina guy.
So it doesn't mean that youhave to currently be at Carolina
, but if you didn't come fromCarolina, they're not going to
hire you you had to at leastcoach there at some point, or?
Play there.
Typically it's players.
They like former players.

(01:33:05):
Well, that's what Duke did tooright.
Duke did that with Shire.
Obviously Coach K wasn't a Dukeguy, he was Army, but he was
there forever.
But yes, that's what they didwith Shire.
But he was also kind ofhandpicked by Coach K and
groomed for that position.
A little bit different, butDavis getting that position,

(01:33:29):
that's a big job for afirst-time head coach.
There were several Carolinaguys out there that have been
coaching for several years anddoing really really well.
So it's really hard to just sayyep, we're going to go there
and he's going to do awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Well, that's one of those jobs that I felt like you
know, duke, uh Carolina,kentucky, kansas, uconn, maybe
now UConn at this point used tobe like UCLA.
Yeah, you can go, get who youwant.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
So why settle?
And that's what I didn'tunderstand, even when duke done
that's kind of worked out forduke uh, well, so we actually.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
I think this is from a podcast that didn't air when
we first started.
I talked about john shire atthe beginning of the year.
His coaching has improved a ton, because beginning of the year
it was hey, give it to cooperflag and just let him that is
what they did when Kentucky beatthem.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
that was kind of what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
And now he's started to develop some offense around
him.
I mean, the kid had40-something the other night.
He's playing fantastic, he'sprobably the best player in the
country, but now they'reactually doing some sets for him
and doing some things.
Yeah, I feel like we've settledwith him.
I don't feel like we'rerecruiting the best.

(01:34:42):
We don't even have a center onroster.
I mean Carolina, known forbeing a fantastic rebounding
team.
They usually lead the countryin offensive rebounds.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
This whole twin tower setup like the.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Spurs used to do, and now we don't even have a center
.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
I have to say I knew they weren't doing good, but I
just went and looked up theirrecord.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
I didn't realize they're struggling.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
12-8.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Yeah, just lost to Wake Forest the other night.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Yeah, so I didn't realize.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
The struggle is real.
I'm telling you, Carolina, makeit make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
You've got the money.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
You've got the resources.
How long do they?
You are sponsored by the manhimself, Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Yeah, Figured out.
How long do they let it?
Let it go before they make achange.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
If he does this back to back years, I think they'll
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Him getting to a championship that one year with
Roy's players.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
I was gonna say is that carry over?
And?

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
you know, I think, I think a full cycle of his
players if he doesn't do wellwith them.
Yeah, I think they have to.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
You know, head coaches always get the criticism
or praise, of course, but theirstaff is such a big part and I
think the staffs rotate so muchthat that can play a part in a
team way more than peoplerealize, even in recruiting and
everything.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
The problem is most of the staff that he has is the
same staff Roy had.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Well, yeah, it's not like he's got.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Like he went and found ten new guys yeah, it's
like all the same people.
So he basically all he did wasmove into Roy's spot and
everybody else moved up a slot.
Like it's not, like we'reseeing a ton of craziness.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Well, clearly you don't think they're going to do
much, no, so who have you gotyour eye on?
And I don't know if I shouldput you on the spot for
championship team, but who'sthere?

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
at the end, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
Final four, yeah something.
Who are we looking at?

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
You've got one team that you're like yeah, this
one's in final four Auburn'sbeen really good.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Auburn and Duke are the two, but Duke.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
Duke has improved a ton since the beginning of the
year.
Now I think what hurts Duke?
They play nobody and it's nottheir fault.
The ACC is awful this year theACC is so pathetic, but as much
as I hate to say it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Who is the number two team in ACC as?

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
much as I hate to say it, I think Duke's probably a
Final Four this year, this yearafter them, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
I don't know Nobody stands out Because typically
it's like all right, you haveFlorida State, you have Carolina
, you have Virginia.
I thought Tennessee was reallygood.
They've lost a bunch lately.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Beat by Florida by a ton.
They got beat by Vanderbilt theother night by one.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
So what I'll say?
I think Alabama is anotherdangerous team.
Alabama is really good.
If they are shooting the ball,well, they can beat anybody.
If they're not hitting shots,they could get beat by anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
So that's where I'm with Kentucky.
Kentucky is a great three-pointshooting team when they are
Like they have moments Right,but they don't have the defense,
and when they played Alabama,Alabama's got a little bit of
defense.
They do, they're a hard-nosedteam, so that can make them
tough.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
But that's kind of an Oates mentality.
Like they play scrappy, theyget after it, they're in your
face, like they're a tough team.
I completely agree.
Another team that I'm verysurprised at Iowa State is dang
good.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
They are good, you're right, they're a good ball team
.
And they're somebody I don'teven think about Even this year.
I kind of keep overlooking themwhen we have these
conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
To me it's so natural Big 12, you just go to Kansas,
yeah.
But they went through Kansasthe other day pretty easily,
like the score was closer than Ithink the game was, so I think
Iowa State's in there.
I still don't think you cancount out UConn when it comes
time to the tournament.
Hurley's had his struggles thisyear.
He's in the news a lot forberating officials and all these

(01:38:23):
things I meant to bring that upbecause I messed up last week.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
I talked about the coach that got kicked out of the
game and said you know that'senough.
It was Hurley.
I said it was Mick Cronin.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
It wasn't Mick Cronin's actually the one that
kind of threw all his playersunder the bus and said nobody
any good, and you know whatnobody wants to be here,
nobody's trying, nobody, yeah,so basically I'm doing fantastic
.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
My players suck yeah, so I kind of get those mixed.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
You can get away with that in nba.
You can't get away with that incollege well, we said they're
adults.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
So if you're gonna get paid like adults, yeah, it's
just a different view theirgame.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
I guess schools view it different, I guess they, they
do.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
I agree with you on there.
But yeah, I mean, you kind ofain't going to do three in a row
, right?
Not with the team they got now.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
No, so I don't think they're going to do three in a
row and I don't even know thatthey make Final Four, but I do
think they make a deep runbecause I do think they're still
talented.
But they lost, rolling past thefact that so many people passed
on.
Dalton Dalton Nect how do youpronounce his last name?

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Yeah, how he fell.
No, no, uconn Is it UConn.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
He was at UConn.
No, no, he's at the Lakers now.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Okay, I must be thinking of somebody else, okay,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
He fell so many spots and it's like, how did you guys
forget?
They're like, well, he's tooold, because he was a four-year
guy in college.
That's not old, yeah, likethese guys can still play.
So I don't get it.
But you know, losing somebodylike him is not easy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Well, players are going everywhere, you know,
every year.
Right now We've talked aboutthat, but I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
I'll take that back.
I'm not thinking of Nick.
He's a Tennessee guy.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Okay, that's so awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
There's another kid at UConn.
I'm not sure I've got to goback.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
That's going to drive me nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Well, you look there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
I know two up literally all the time.
You know there's always goingto be at least one team that
gets through.
You know the tournament deeperthan we expect, get some upsets.
Either they upset somebody orthere's an upset ahead of them
that kind of opens the path forthem.
Whatever it is, but I'm withyou.
My eye is on Auburn.
I think, Auburn is a good team.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Auburn's very good.
They're going to be tough.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
I see you in deep thought over there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
No, I was trying to go.
I always mix him up withDonovan Klingin.
Oh, okay, yeah, I was like whois it?
Yes, I mix them up all the time.
They look similar.
They really look very similar,more similar than I really
thought.
Okay, I'm like, so that's why Imix them, let me see, so okay,
hold on, dalton connect.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
I got my go look this up, right here connect for
whatever it is connect for Ilove it.
How do you pronounce it?
It's uh.
It's uh k and e.
Yeah, I don't know how youpronounce it.
Who's the?
Yukon guy and this is great,like live right now but who's
the yukon?

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Yeah, kind of like Klingon for all you Trekkies.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
Don't get me started on that, don't even Star Trek or
Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
David's going to say neither.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
I've never seen any of it.
I don't have a clue what you'retalking about.
It's a Star Wars.
The only answer is Star Wars,Klingon is I know?
So I like the show Big BangTheory.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
That the show big bang theory.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
That's where I got all the information from that's
all I know.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
Yeah, so you are thinking um, you're thinking
star trek, because the onlyreason you know it's from the
big bang.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Three guys pretty much, yeah, but they're also
star wars guys too sure I don'tknow.
They're into comics, they're in, yeah, I don't know.
I I've not seen any of themovie.
Marvel, what is it?
Dc?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
Whatever, you're not missing much with DC they put
out much good movies.
I don't know the difference,but Marvel has some great ones.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
I've seen a little bit of Spider-Man.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
You're not alone in that.
A lot of people haven't.
But it's just.
It almost feels weird now thatyou haven't because that's such
a big thing nowadays, like whenwe were growing up it wasn't as
big, but like the mcu stuff youknow, marvel cinematic, that's
everywhere I feel like it's huge.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
You know, at this point, if a good movie comes out
, I'll watch it.
You know like I've seen aspider-man, I've seen, you know
if there's a good technicallyspider-man wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
I don't know whatever there's.
I mean, I'll explain what.
Captain america, I don't knowwhatever.
I'll explain this if you wantCaptain America, I don't know
Captain America, that's MCU ifone of those come out, that's
really good.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Sure I'll watch it but to go back and like watch
all of it.
Or even with Star Wars, I feellike at this point it's passed
me by, like I mean, no, they'restill making them.
No, but I'm not back and watchthem all and get caught up.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
It just only nine, just doesn't it only nine
there's a lot of shows, but it'sreally nine movies.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
I can watch the nine or 15 what it is fast and
furious before I watch the starwars uh, how many are there?
Like 10 out of 11, at least 10I thought it was like a 12 I
remember the x one, so I know.
So yeah, at least 10, at least10 um, yeah, so marvel is like
30.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
There's so many of those movies.
Yeah, it's too much.
I've seen them all, it's justnever ended.
Probably multiple times.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
I've said this on the podcast before Hancock.
That's about as far as I go ina superhero movie.
That's the worst superheromovie ever.
I say that just to annoy you.
It's so bad.
Which one?

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
I'm not a huge Will Smithith fan other than I am
legend.
I think it's a fantastic movie.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
I love that movie but , like you know, men in black
and I robot and so I never caredmuch for his character in men
in black.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
I just it wasn't.
I don't think it's played wellnow.
The first one I thought wasfine, he's younger, but then you
get like two and three.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
It just it just became stupid don't get his uh
wife's name in your mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
Oh gosh, that's a joke too.
If I'd have done that, I'd havebeen put in jail, Right
Somebody like him.
It's like oh you're just notallowed to come back to this.
Okay, is that punishment, tell?

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
me I don't have to come sit through or not, but it
kind of seemed to.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
So I didn't watch it.
I've only seen the clips of it,because shows like award
ceremonies I don't watch.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
You know, when we have these award ceremonies,
especially for the movies andstuff like that, I don't know
half the movies they're talkingabout.
It's like all.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
Oh, that's true, I don't know if it's over my head
or what you want to call it, butit's not movies I watch yeah,
but it's always like these deepin, like these films that are
multiple meanings and they'resuper deep and I'm like I'm I'm
watching something that's funnysame way with half the tv shows
anymore I'm watching somethingthat, like I actually watched.

(01:44:49):
uh, I finished a movie todaycalled land of bad on net.
I've never even heard of it.
Military kind of a specialforces thing.
Actually really good.
Something like that interestsme.
It's not going to win anyawards, it's not going to be
anything like that, but it wasgreat.
I enjoyed it.
Liam Hemsworth starred in it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
I thought it was a pretty good movie you have to
check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
It's pretty new but I really enjoyed it.
But some of these movies thatwin awards are they're like oh,
these are critically acclaimed.
What critics like these guysthat are paid to do this, like I
don't?
That makes no sense to me I am.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
I actually saw a uh like a little clip the other day
on social media of old golfmovies not not real, a few years
old called uh seven days inutopia.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
I don't know if you've seen that I've seen the
clips about this like a hundredtimes now yeah, I think I might
have to go check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
I can't stand I know the guy, I know, I know his his
performance in tokyo drift wasso bad so it's funny.
I remember him more as a kidand I could not tell you the
name of the movie.
There was a like a horse moviewhere he rode a horse and he was
like a little kid then and Iremember that from years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
I think I watched several things, but his, his
performance in tokyo drift didit for me.
I just like I can't.
He's so bad yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
So I don't know how to be, but it's it's like a
christian-based film and yeah,I've seen stuff I've seen.
I kind of want to check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
Like the guys on the horse and throws in the book.
I've seen some of that parts ofit.
I can't think of who the otherguy is.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
The older guy that's in.
It is a big name.
I'm kind of excited.
Happy Gilmore 2.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
I'm super excited for that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
I don't know how that's going to be.
Yeah, I'm really lookingforward to something I hope it's
not just overly stupid funny.

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
I don't want that.
Have you watched the old oneanytime soon or anytime recent?
Yeah, but I'm just afraid it'sgoing to get worse.
To me, it needs to be aboutequal.
I feel like it has to be alittle bit of that, because
that's what that is.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
Yeah, it could be a modern version of that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
Now, what I don't want is something like Space Jam
, the modern Space Jam, whenthey did it with LeBron.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
I never watched it, but I've seen clips.
I have no desire.

Speaker 1 (01:47:07):
It is so bad.
Like the old Jordan Space Jamwas really good, but it was all
these characters that literallyeveryone knows.
You know all these.
You know Bugs Bunny and all theLooney Tunes.
The one now is like video gamesand it's a very, it's very
modern, it fits the times, butit's not good.
It's not good at all.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
What happened to the Looney Tunes?
Has anybody watched Bugs Bunnyanymore?
I've let my kid watch it a fewtimes, but it's like they don't
come on TV, does it?
You gotta go search it onYouTube, or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
I've not really looked.
I've not really looked.
I don't think that's.
I watch.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
It's something anybody wants to watch anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
I watch sports pretty much primarily, so I don't
really know.
My kids love Bluey Blue,fantastic.
Um, they're making a movie, bythe way didn't know that coming
out like next year, year after,but yeah, blue is blue is great.
Um, obviously, my kids, we do alot of pop troll.
They love, they love the poptroll um well, my kids love

(01:48:07):
planets.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
They want planets and and body parts, and I know that
sounds so weird, I'm justsaying.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
It's not weird to me, though, because we literally
bought your little one yes, abody.
I don't even know how todescribe it.
It's like a biology kit forchildren.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
He knows all about the esophagus and the stomach.
What was it?

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
that wasn't there that he was mad about.
There was some body part thatI'm like like I don't even know
what that is.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
we're talking about three and four year olds, and,
and this is yeah know all theplanets and and like that's what
they're into.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
So, um, that's good I guess I mean I mean it's cool,
it's just it's yeah.
Well, I mean your four-year-old, he knows all the states, all
the capitals yeah where they goon the map.
I mean yeah, he's been playingpiano lately, teaching himself
stuff, that's the way he is manit doesn't surprise me with him
like we'll get a video and it'slike, hey, you know he was

(01:49:04):
playing this.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Yeah, that's about right, like at this point, like
it's not a surprise I'm the sameway like it's surprising, but
it's not like it's just, oh yeah, it's this point, that's I
expected, that's what interestshim and that's where he goes and
that's what he wants to do, andI'm all for it.
I want to be one of thoseparents that I want to show my
kids everything, but let themfind their own path.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
Yeah, I mean for my kids.
I just want to be involved insomething.
I don't care what it is Music,acting, sports I don't care, I
don't care, I just want you todo something.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
Do something.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
Do what you love, don't sit at home and play video
games and don't tell me it'sbecause I love video games,
Because that's such a big thingthese days of streamers and this
Like you still got to be ableto do other things.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Like there's more to life.
Video games have a place oh ofcourse.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
Kind of a relaxing, you know yeah, yeah, until we
play and we get beat by a bunchof 12-year-olds.
That sucks Right and they beatus bad.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
Yeah, the glory days of these are over.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Of what of us?
Of video games, yeah, Wow, yeah, my glory days are long behind
me at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
But yeah, video games , that's something I guess our
age grew up with because it wasgrowing and becoming big as we
were kids and you know, intomiddle school, high school.
So, yeah, I mean that was a bigpart of it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
You know, they say you know, from the 90s on is
like the technology boom.
Oh, absolutely, and I reallythink it is too, If you look at
everything, whether it'scomputers or music or video
games, cell phones.
Cell phones I mean everythingwe do.
We went from bag phones to acomputer in our pocket as an
iphone.
We were like the lastgeneration, probably before,
like the internet and in inmodern cell phones and and all

(01:50:41):
this stuff.
I mean we had internet, butit's like dial-up stuff and not
a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
I mean, I remember dial-up as a kid, yeah, so pick
up the phone.
You hear that awful noise itmakes I can't imagine that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
You know what is that ?
Uh, we're at 25, so 35 yearspan maybe.
Yeah, I can't imagine if it hasthat same growth in the next 35
years.
It'll be unreal where we're at.

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
So I I was.
It just made me think of I waswatching a podcast and they said
wait watching a podcast.
Well, so they, they do apodcast, but they also video it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
So I was watching them, so they're better than us
is what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
Most people are okay.
Um, so I was watching it andthey were saying kind of
something similar along thelines of you know where
technology is and ai.
And they said, what's, what's aprediction you have for the
next 10 years, like what'ssomething you think will will
happen, and so it made me startthinking about it.

(01:51:35):
I'm like huh, like what do Ithink is something?

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
I don't even know how to predict that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Well, so my thought is on AI.
At some point, I believe, inthe next 10 years, AI could get
screwy on us.
It could get questionable.
Ai could get screwy on us.
It could get questionableBecause if you ask AI, can it
think for itself?
It tells you no Again.

(01:52:02):
This is all programmed bypeople for it to do certain
thoughts, but it doesn'tactually do it itself and the
whole spiel of it.
Well, the problem is when youask AI, who runs AI?
And it tells you there's thisgoverning body, and then there's
these different groups andthese like 10 different things.
I'm like, all right, so it's abunch of men or women, but

(01:52:22):
basically a bunch of people thatare putting their own thoughts
and beliefs into it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
So at some point somebody is going to use it in a
corrupt way.
Yeah, so to me there's going tobe something, some kind of big
event using AI that's going tobe negatively effective to the
world or America or something ina bad way.
See, like that's my thought.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
I still like to think when I put in something in you
know chat, gpt or whatever thatthere's, you know an individual
somewhere, some dude.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
I don't think that's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
I really don't think that's happening that would be
so cool if they're like yeah,this is AI, there's really like
a room full of people, that'swhat people used to think about
Siri that you were actually likespeaking to somebody like
there's this lady in a roomsomewhere that'd be cool
speaking back to you yeah, ofiPhones, hey Siri how many of
those got activated just?
Then Mine did, mine just did.
Yours didn't.

(01:53:16):
I don't, I never used my heySiri or nothing Mine's turned on
.
I like to turn it on like that,like I'll yeah.
So that probably activated alot of people's.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
but there's a lot of people that thought that was
somebody you were actuallytalking to, which would be kind
of fun, but I think that wasjust somebody being really
lonely hoping they had somebodyto speak to.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Well, that's even like.
Siri just seems so old school,and I like the iPhone, that's
just normal anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
It does.
Yeah, Everything is in yourhand.
It's no big deal.
I mean, you have a computer inyour pocket any given time.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
That's what my father-in-law used to say.
Well, just look, google it onyour phone right there.
Yeah, just look it up rightthere.
I mean you can.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
He'll probably get a kick out of that because he'll
remember.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
He will, yeah, he will.
I just think that's funny.
Yeah, we used to say that allthe time because it was like
anytime somebody had a thought,I was like, yeah, just Google it
, you can now Just do it.
Yeah, you don't sit here anddiscuss things anymore, like you
just look it up yeah, I don'tneed to ask you questions, I'll
just look it up.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
You used to say, uh what?
There's an app for that.
Everything you know yeah, thereis.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
There is an app for everything.
Have you went and looked justfor obscure stuff at any?

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
point.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
I've never had the desire to do that but like I
remember when I first got myiphone, there's like you had to
have an app for a flashlight,like they didn't have all that
on there yet.
But there's like you had tohave an app for a flashlight,
Like they didn't have all thaton there yet.
But there's like the whips andthere was like you could do your
phone.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
I forgot about the whips.
You remember that?

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
Yes, like there there's all kinds of them.
And then now, like we've gotAngry Birds and we've got like
there's, so like Pokemon Go,that you're out walking around
catching Pokemon, like there'sso many things.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
It's crazy.
How did we go from the littlesnake game, where you had to
push the numbers to make thesnake go around, to an iPhone.
The snake game was awesome.
That was quick.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
Yeah, I mean, I got my first phone in middle school,
you know, moving around,traveling, sports and all that
different stuff.
And by the time I was, I guess,leaving for college, I got an
iPhone and I didn't get like thefirst one, like I was like four

(01:55:22):
was my first one.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
So, yeah, I mean, I think three or something.
There was the first one I gotand I was around for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
So I mean, yeah, like into high school, like you were
already getting that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
I don't know we're out of time here here, but at
least one more question I wantto ask you when's the correct
age to give your child a phone?

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
never.
Is that?
Is that acceptable?
I mean, I don't know, intoday's world sorry, you said
phone, not social media yeah,well, social media is a whole
nother that's a whole.
We don't know where that'sgoing, but um, yeah, so like you
have kids.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
They don't have phones.
Yet's going.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
Yeah, so Like you have kids.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
They don't have phones yet.

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
No, they do not, my oldest is nine, I guess in my
mind it kind of depends.
I got mine in middle school andit was really only because I
was playing tennis in middleschool and needing to call them
and text them when we weregetting back on a bus and be
picked up, and so I really onlygot it for something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
If it wasn't for that , there's no telling when I
would've got one.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
Well, that's what we did with my daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Yeah, and I remember she just got one this year and
and that was the reason why, too.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
And that was the reason why, too, because you
know you're at school, you'replaying sports.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
I guess for me that's kind of where it's at at that
point.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Just depends on what you're doing maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Yeah, to me it's kind of situational, like and again,
to each their own.
You are the parent, you do yourown thing.
For me, I don't see a point inmy elementary schooler having
one.
Middle school is probably theearliest and kind of like I said
, if he's not playing sportswhich again, I don't know what
my oldest will do but he'll dosomething.

(01:56:59):
He loves music, he loves acting, he loves sports, he loves
everything He'll do something.
So he'll do something.
So, yeah, there'll probably bea need.
But again, he's got an iPad.
They watch stuff at home.
He was texting me from it theother day.

(01:57:23):
Now he's got very strictparental.
Yeah, like it's.
I think he's got like you guyson it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
Uh, your daughter me amanda, like very mom and dad,
like very easy to monitor yourkids phone stuff because you can
family, share stuff and seewhat's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Yeah, I mean as far as the phone, though, like I, I
must say like somewhere aroundseventh grade, yeah, somewhere
in that range.

Speaker 2 (01:57:38):
I think you're right.
Of course I am.
You mentioned iPads and stufflike that.
You know all of my kids, evenmy three and four-year-old
they're on iPads and stuff andthey can do everything on them.
Oh, they're so more advanced andI don't want them to just sit
on them, but when you look at itand and they're just watching
learning stuff and they'rereally learning, like all my

(01:57:59):
kids learned really quickly thealphabet and the colors and the,
like I said, the planets, and alot of it was from that and
that's where today's world is.
So I sure you know if they'renot overdoing it.
I have no problem with youngkids being on that stuff, so I'm
getting accustomed to it andlearning and and.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
I for me, and I'm I'm bad about it too.
I'm on my phone way too much,but it just goes back to like
it's so many screens in yourface.
You start talking abouteyesight, like all that's bad on
your eyes, like too much of it,like.
So that's that for me.
I would love to be able tolimit my, my kids, a little bit
more on it, but it's just.
It's so much of the times it'shard.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
Everything is done through that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
I do everything on my phone, whatever you know, my my
day job, stuff with the range,stuff with family stuff with you
know I'm in in sports and yousports and everything is on my
phone, everything.
So that's why I'm on it all thetime.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
Yeah, no, I I agree.
Um, here's the thing.
I've got plenty to talk about,but here, very shortly it's
gonna be a you show only becauseI can feel my voice fading fast
.
So for me, I'm to that point ofI I'm gonna have to end you
speak.
As long as you want, I'll sithere and hang out I'm good I can

(01:59:12):
hear it going a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:59:13):
You know it started.
What was it?
When did I first know you lostyour voice?
I don't know, maybe over thispast weekend or something, and I
was like, man, I may get totalk in this show, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
Then it came back, my wife probably said the same
thing.
She says it all the time.
She's like you shut up, forit's usually just something is
said and I spit it out there.

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
No, I'm the same way.
That's conversation.
That's what you do, you know,so I have no problem with it.
But yeah, I'm with you.
That's a little gravelly, Isthat the word?
I don't know.
Whatever Scratchy gravelly.
Gravelly.
I don't know if I've ever heardsomebody's voice considered
gravelly.
Well, you Like the old schoolcowboys and stuff.
They had this gravel in theirvoice type thing, Because it's

(01:59:56):
just hard life.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
I still don't know if I've heard just gravelly,
though.

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
Well, now you have, you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
That's not a term I'm going to use.
I probably have a much biggerterm for it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
I'm sure you went on the toilet paper today, or
calendar or something.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
No, today it didn't really have any relevance.
How many people are going tobelieve that I actually have
calendar or something?
No, today it didn't really haveany relevance.
Okay, how many people are goingto believe that I actually have
toilet paper like that?

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
Heck, I wonder.
I don't know.
You have a bunch of words.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
I feel like it would be too expensive.
Family of four, you go throughtoilet paper, ain't?

Speaker 2 (02:00:26):
toilet paper one of those things you don't go cheap
on.

Speaker 1 (02:00:29):
Oh, we don't.
Yeah, some people do, we don'twe don't.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
We try to find the middle of the road, I think.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
But no, we, that's one thing like, but you can't
get the cheap.
Shout out, ed like I don't knowif he even listens.

Speaker 2 (02:00:43):
But I can tell you this if he taught you anything,
he taught me growing up.
You make sure you take care ofthe rear end there's just a few
things that you don't go cheap,so maybe that'll be a topic for
another day.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
Yeah, I could do a lot of off-brand stuff.
That ain't one of them.

Speaker 2 (02:00:56):
No, there's, there's.
There's several things, that'sthat way 12 papers, one that'll
probably be a topic next week.

Speaker 1 (02:01:02):
Sorry, I have some things I want to talk about, but
yeah, I can barely talk at thisno, I'm with that that.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
Okay, tune in.
Next week we're going to talkabout, yeah, things you can go
cheap on off, off-brand.

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
Um also remind me about this.
Next week my brother put in asubmission for a white trash
sandwich to beat our PB&J.
He had a couple of options thathe's like.
I got one.
He said that I know some people.
I think we have a new whitetrash champion sandwich.

(02:01:32):
So we'll go there, but yeah, asmy scratchy voice fades, as
david says gravelly voice as itgoes very quickly.
Um appreciate you guys hangingout with us and just growing
along with us and having a lotof fun yeah, thanks for
listening.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
Uh, find us on social media as well.

Speaker 1 (02:01:49):
Yeah, comment, we're on instagram, facebook, all the
fun stuff you know.
Come, come interact.
You know brian's doing afantastic job with all that and
I know him and we're onInstagram, facebook, all the fun
stuff.
Come interact.
Brian's doing a fantastic jobwith all that, and I know him
and one of our buddies has beenkind of chatting back and forth
through comments.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
It's been funny to watch.

Speaker 1 (02:02:06):
He's now no longer taking our suggestions on picks,
but I did tell him I getpercentage if he wins anything.

Speaker 2 (02:02:13):
Hey, just so you know , that was Brian's picks, not
mine.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
Yeah, that's true.
That's true, Brian.
You failed him.
You're costing me money, brian,but anyways, thank you guys, we
love you all.
Have a great week and we'll seeyou soon.
Yep, stay warm everybody.
Thanks, thanks, Thanks.

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