Food for the Sick, Fore or not, and Bracket Banter

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, I like that play on the word too, because
when I play golf that's the wordI use a lot, because who knows
where the ball's going.
So I've got to yell four.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
So it kind of sucks, though, because I feel like
every time we go play, even whenwe hit bad shots, there's
nobody around and I kind of wantto yell it, like when you hit a
bad one.
It's like I hit one so bad Ishould have to yell it, but it's
like there's nobody there, orit's so far in the woods.
It's like who am I yelling thatfor?
What happens?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
to me is you know, I hit one and it's not great and
I'm like I see people down thereand I'm like, yeah, it's not
getting that far you know.
And the next, thing you know,it lands on their feet.
I say, yeah, it really justdepends.
I've definitely done that I'vebeen thinking like, oh, they're
way too far.
And then I hit one and you'relike, ah, they're far out there,

(01:43):
I'm not going to hit this thatfar, and that's the one you get
a hold of.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
So when we go play, there are two guarantees.
That's one of them that we'regoing to hit a shot better than
we've ever hit.
That's going to go at somebody,at somebody, yeah.
The other one is if we play ahole with water, you find it, I
will find it's funny becauseit's always been that way.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I've gotten better with water.
I don't know, I've changed mymentality a little bit and I
don't remember.
I'm still going to the water atsome point.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
But well, I've got a little better.
Around last year that over herein henishville, close by to us,
you found water.
I didn't know was on thatcourse and it was like six shots
in a row.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Like you found water in places that there should not
have been water oh, I would walkup places too and be like like
I hit a good shot.
It's like, yeah, where did thiswater should be right here,
this water come from.
Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
We did that several times and it's at one point it
just gets comical because you'relike, I don't know how you do
that like it's just impressivewhat's like you know, finding
water there and then finding thebathroom because I have to pee
like nonstop.
That's true, I was going to sayyou typically know that's the
thing.
Anywhere we go, whether you'vebeen there before or not, if I
need to use the bathroom, I askyou where it is, because you've
been there already.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh yeah, You've already found it once or twice.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
So it's easy If you's going to know, without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
You know we talked about this.
I'm excited to get weather andmaybe get out and go to some of
these golf courses and, you know, try some food and different
things that we've talked about.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I was talking with Paul about it and I'm like I am
so ready to be back on a golfcourse.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
If you notice, I didn't say anything about
playing golf.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I'm not going to be able to go play with us.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
So it's like, all right, now we've got.
I didn't know there was athree-click system to like
actually on the golf course.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, so he's got to figure out if there's a
three-click off the tee Likehe's fine everywhere else.
Right, his driver is prettyrough.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Is it like an ABA cheat code, or maybe AAA?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I think he's clicking them in the wrong direction or
something.
Last time I watched him hitdriver, he was missing about a
200-yard wide field.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I can't say much about driver.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
No, I know, but it's weird though, because pretty
much the rest of his game hasbeen solid, except for that.
He's been pretty good witheverything else.
Um, I am, I am worried.
You know, playing paul thisyear he's had much more time
with these new clubs.
He's getting better and he, youknow we he's.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
He's gotten his back straightened out, so I'm I gotta
start getting some practice in,because well, there's times I
can just sell my driver and justuse my three wood because it
goes just as far most of thetime and straighter.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I think there's something mental there with you
too, though.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh, there is.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Because you've done that forever.
Yeah, even the old crappy clubs.
That first set you had that waslike I don't know what $30?
.
I mean something ridiculouslycheap.
You could hit the 3-wood, great, and in that set the driver
wasn't much bigger.
No, huh, and you still couldn'thit it.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
My best drives that I everremember was with an old driver
I had and I would just swingeasy and I think I try to swing
too hard.
It's more of a baseball swing.
We've talked about it.
I'm coaching softball andthings like that and teaching
swings and then I try to swing agolf club that way.
I try to swing a golf club thatway and we saw it on the course
a few months ago in the fall.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I didn't know when we were last on the course.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, the one.
I softball swung at it and itwent straight right and I
actually came back and put itright back on the green next
shot, but it's off the tee.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I just can't.
Yes, I actually do rememberthat it was like shanked into
the most ridiculous spot I couldimagine and then you put it to
like 10 feet.
I'm like stop using the driver.
It's like irons only Just go.
Nothing but irons.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
But in softball you're not supposed to roll over
, you know.
So in a softball swing it feelslike when I do that it's sliced
so you know, I'm going to haveto work on it.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, we're going to call dad, maybe Get work on it.
Yeah, we're gonna call dadmaybe get you squared away.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I don't, I mean, I'm just gonna hit the ball, take it
by my cheeseburger and go tothe next shot I was gonna say,
yeah, that's the big thing isyou just don't really care
what's the?
Uh, I can't remember.
The golfer was where he said um, oh, it was john daly when he
was younger.
Right, he said.
My strategy is hit as hard as Ican.
If I find it, I'll hit it againthat's kind of what I do.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
That's in between his diet, coke and cigarettes.
I mean I'm not doing that.
I don't smoke and I don't likethat, so that that was one of
those things like we you alwaystalk about, like the, the type
of golfers out there you talkabout.
You know the country club style.
John daly walked off of thenascar racetrack straight onto a

(06:19):
golf course.
He did, I mean, like the.
He was mullet redneck just didnot fit the mold back then and
he's a major champion.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's unbelievable.
He does not look like he'd begood at golf.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, no, I mean I think currently he's
single-handedly keeping Hootersfrom bankruptcy.
I mean, him and his son areabout the only two things
they've got going for them.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Well, it's funny, you said Diet Coke and a cigarette.
Yeah, why is it that all thesepeople who are smoking and
everything else drink a DietCoke?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
It feels like Diet Coke.
I don't know why Can't we justget a regular Coke at that point
.
Are we?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
offsetting it.
You know, is it.
I think it's bouncing day too,it's like if you're gonna drink
that many.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
There's rumors of john daly like diet coke and
m&ms and it's like he'll have 12on a course.
I'm like, listen, I would bepassing out.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Make that a dr pepper .
I'm in, give me some peanutm&ms.
Yeah, I don't know, I can't.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
That's what I saying I mean it's like crazy numbers,
it's not just like one or two,it's all of them.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I get to a point that I need water, and I can feel it
.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
So I've got to put the soda down On the golf course
.
I'm like I'm going water andthen at the turn I'll grab a
Pepsi or a Dr Pepper orsomething.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Just give it that little bit, but not that many.
I don't know how you do it thatway.
Talking about soda, I kind ofgot a little bit of a humorous
story.
I guess not that the major.
I think it was one night thisweek, maybe last night, so I
don't remember, but it's late atnight and I'm up and I'm a late
night person trying to work onthat Not going very well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'm doing a little bit better will but uh, I'm, I'm
doing a little bit better.
I've gotten off that a littlebit.
I still get random texts fromyou.
It'd be like two and I'm likedude, I've been out I know
you're asleep, but you'll seethe next one.
No, exactly something's on mymind, so I just I just text or
whatever.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
But um, so I'm like I want a little snack and I go to
the fridge and, for whateverreason, I wanted a pickle.
Okay, I don't know why there'sa pickle.
I get like late night, why I Idon't know why.
It was a pickle, I could golate at night.
Why, I don't know.
Pickles are good man.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You're missing out.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, pickles are disgusting, hey that's my
vegetables right there,cucumbers.
So.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yes, drowned in salt.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
You look kind of disgusted.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Pickles are one of the most disgusting things in
the world.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
No, no, no, anyway, so but while I got the fridge
open, I see a can of sprite inthe door and we got sprite for
my daughter trying to drink lesscaffeine.
It's like that she's playingsoftball.
So if she wants a littlesomething she can have a little
sprite.
You know, it's a little betterhopefully.
But I see the sprite and I'mlike I kind of want that sprite.
Why do I want that sprite?

(08:57):
And my first immediate thoughtis am I getting sick or
something like that?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
and I immediately associate associated sprite with
like being sick I don't, Idon't associate sprite with sick
, because there, for a long time, like sprite was my drink of
choice.
Like I like, oh, really, yeah,it's like sprite when you have
like a cold or something likeit's good, no, it's ginger.
You don't you got a ginger what?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
oh god, I don't like ginger ale ginger ale is for.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Like ginger calms your stomach.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Like that's what ginger like when you have an
upset stomach, you drink ginger,so I've always heard like
Sprite and 7-Up.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
No, because there's actually way too much sugar in
it.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Is it Okay?
So that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
A lot of people do that, though.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
What's horrible about Sprite is like, you're like, oh
, I'm not doing much different.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
I'm like that's stupid.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Which don't worry on caffeine is his own issue I mean
I get in moods where I've eventold my wife and she looks like
I'm crazy.
I'm like, yeah, I think I wanta light soda, like I want to
like it like a mountain like alight color or a sprite or seven
up something maybe it's not adangerous drink, though.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh, it is, it is it's .
It's one of those like, if youget on a mountain dew, kick like
it's.
Yeah, I mean, a good coldMountain Dew is good, but it's
awful for you, that's right, Iimmediately associated with,
okay, you know, having a coldand whatever that.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
and it got me thinking like, what else is like
that?
And Campbell's soup was thefirst thing that came to my mind
chicken noodle soup, and Idon't know why.
Like I've read, you know whatchicken noodle soup does for you
, but why do we go to that everytime we're sick, see, I noodle
soup does for you, but why do wego to that every time we're
sick?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
see, I don't.
Though what do you go to?
Cheese toast?
What toast with cheese on it?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
when you're sick.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
The reason being is because that's what my
grandparents did, so that's whatmy mom did.
So when I was sick, it was likeit's really light on your
stomach, it's not heavy, it'seasy to eat, it's simple well, I
mean, I ate toast before andI'm sick because it's like, but
I don't put cheese on it, soit's literally like a a piece of
craft singles on toast, likeyou put it in the oven.

(10:53):
Let it just like it's not meltyor anything.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
It's just kind of almost like glazes over just
feels like cheese, that type ofweird that type of cheese does
not really melt well yeah,that's true, like if they kind
of just made it real cheese.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Probably not, but for whatever reason it would be
like ginger ale and cheese toast.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
But have you heard that people use chicken noodle
soup?
Oh, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
So I've always heard chicken noodle or tomato soup,
just because it's like just aneasy.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, it's very plain .
I've even done it, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
There's nothing whatever, yeah you're like
trying to figure out what loancan I take out to go get mucinex
and yeah and all this stuff.
I know like you're like I don'tcare anymore I don't care, or
like if you were to go to thestore right now I'm not sick and
you're like I need to stock upthis stuff for when these
allergies are getting ready tohit, all these things you know,
getting ready to be in that thattype of year, you're gonna go
buy the cheapest stuff you canfind you're gonna find the off
brand.
You're gonna find stuff that'slike I don't even think that's
real, but I'm gonna buy it.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
And then when you get sick, you're like, nope, give
me the most expensive one giveme whatever works I want to
knock it out as quickly aspossible so I got to looking it
up and you know, chicken noodlesoup supposedly the chicken
broth helps with congestion andit's hot and a lot of different
things.
But what I thought was kind offunny too was in like uh, I
think it was 96 campbell'sactually done a marketing

(12:10):
campaign and they couldn't sayour soup helps you when you're
sick.
But it was kind of based onthat grandma gives you soup when
you're not feeling good andthey really pushed it.
And so then I'm like okay, issoup really that good for me, or
is it just this been amarketing ploy?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
all these years, gotta be marketing maybe because
I just picture like obviously Iwas six years old, 96, like I
was little.
I mean you weren't much older.
What 10?
Yeah, so I mean like you'rereal old.
But I just feel like I canpicture a commercial, just some
old lady giving a sick kid inbed, yes, a bowl of soup.
But it's like, just because yousee it doesn't mean it actually

(12:48):
works.
Because here's the thingmarketing wise if they'd have,
they could put anything theywanted within reason obviously
you're not gonna give me here'sa candy bar, like no, that's not
gonna help.
Yeah, but anything within reason, like I feel like everybody
just jumped on board well, and Iguess legally they can't say we
cure the cold because theydon't cure it yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
But they put out this message that when you're sick,
this is what you want.
And there's other soup brandsout there, but I guess maybe
Campbell's jumped on it first.
I don't know that.
I can name another soup brand.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I can one, I think, all right.
So here's my question Outsideof sickness, are you a soup
person Like, do you like soup?
Not one, I think, all right.
So here's my question outsideof sickness, are you a soup
person like, do you like soup?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
not typically, because that to me is it's like
it's not a meal so I grew up umand I'll do this occasionally a
grilled cheese sandwich andtomato soup, because I dip my
grilled cheese in the tomatosoup.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
But it's still.
It's like people do soup andsalad or soup and sandwich.
I'm like that's not a meal likesoup.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Soup in itself is just hot broth like there's
nothing there's nothing to itlike occasionally we'll get a,
uh, those cans of like some kindof meaty soup I'll eat
occasionally.
Uh, now, olive garden, I getsoup there because I don't
really eat salads that much.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
But you eat as an appetizer?
I do, but that's different,it's more.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's their soup.
Uh, pasta, fagioli or whateveris more like chili.
So I don't know if you considerchili a soup.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I don't really feel like chili is a soup.
Chili is just too full.
I think it technically is.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I guess it probably is, but it just feels very
different.
It's very full.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
You think of a basic tomato soup or chicken noodle
soup?
There's not much in it.
It's way more broth thanthere's anything else.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Oh, yeah, where there's not much in it, like
it's way more broth than isanything else.
Oh yeah, where chili is waymore everything else than it is.
Yeah, that's.
My wife will make a vegetablesoup sometimes and it's like
full of meat and stuff.
It's not.
Yeah, I don't want all that.
I guess brothy stuff, whateveryou call it.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, I'm not a soup person oh, some people like my
parents they'll yeah, for dinnerwe're having soup.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'm like you're not having dinner ain't there a
restaurant that's like based onsoup or has a lot, maybe panera
bread or something?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
panera is that what it's called, not panera bread
they've got a bunch ofsandwiches and stuff too, though
but don't they do like a lot ofsoups and like I just?
Anytime I'm in panera I get asandwich of some kind well, I've
never ate it panera, so I havea couple of times we had it when
we were living down towardscharl, but that was about it.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
So now we've determined that you ate cheese
toast and ginger ale.
Anything else that you think ofthat connects to sickness
Saltines oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I didn't think of saltine crackers.
Maybe popsicles.
I don't think I have ever eatensaltines other than when I was
sick.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know I got on a kick for a while that I would
eat those when I got a littlehungry late at night and just
eat a few of those.
It's like cardboard.
Well, and that was kind of mypoint is trying to not just go
grab like junk food and wherethat's not, you know, that's not
obviously healthy.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
I feel like you just eat a whole box, though, because
, like there's nothing to it.
I mean, I might have you knowwhat I mean Like a saltine
cracker is air, like there'svery little to it.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's just very light on your stomach.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I was like, how much do you have to eat to actually
feel?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
like you ate something.
Well, I think that's the ideato not like fill you up so much
with heavy something.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
No, but it's just if you eat four sleeves.
But I can only imagine theamount of water you would need
with that, like you wouldn't beable to swallow.
Because when you think, like ifyou eat, like four saltines,
like after like you're drinkingsomething.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
You're drinking something, yeah.
Like you're not doing that justplain Well, like a challenge or
something.
A while back is like I thoughtyou ate them and then had to say
a word or something.
I don't know, I don't remember,I think it was something that
it was like.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
It was technically impossible to eat X amount of
them without drinking orsomething, because it just
basically dried your mouth.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Because it dried your mouth, I could see that.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Which there's so many ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
There's all these crazy media stuff.
Have you seen the lemon ones?
Those are hilarious.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I couldn't ever bring myself to do it.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I was going to say are we going to do it live?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
No, just sitting here thinking about it, my mouth
already has that feeling of Iknow what's going on.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I like some good, strong lemonade, but just
straight lemon juice that's fullof sugar.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
It counteracts everything Just straight lemon
juice that's full of sugar.
Yeah, you know, it counteractseverything Just straight lemon
juice, I mean.
The faces these people make,though, is absolutely hilarious.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Oh, they're funny.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
That's what makes those videos.
It's just they're fine, theytake that shot of it, it's okay
for about a half second and thenit hits.
Yeah, it's not immediate, it'sjust that slight pause.
Well, saltines was a good one.
I mentioned popsicles, butanything else that comes to your
mind.
So, yeah, obviously popsicleswhen you know you had strep or

(17:30):
something where your throat wasreally messed up.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Oh man, I just remembered.
Do you remember those things inschool?
The little frozen juicesSupposed to be like real juice
and they're really not realjuice.
The little triangle things.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
What were those?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
called.
They were amazing.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Well, see, but that you got to think though.
Lunches when we were a kid,cafeteria lunches at school,
like that is nostalgia.
There is so much that you goback and think, like the square
pizzas of that time verydifferent than the square pizzas
of now.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
And I like the square pizzas.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
They were fantastic.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
My daughter gets papa john's like four or five days a
week at the middle school now.
So I mean they have that therenow.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah see there for a while they weren't having you
that stuff.
It was like really basic,boring stuff, um so yeah, I mean
.
So when I was in high school, Imean we had the main cafeteria
line, you had a line that wasjust chicken sandwiches and you
had a line that was just pizza,yeah, we had the pizza line and
you had like little snacks andstuff I mean.
So I basically did chickensandwich every day.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
But why did we?
I think I get pizza all thetime, but why did we eat pizza
and chocolate with chocolatemilk and drink chocolate milk?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
That's a weird explanation it was like milk.
It's always the thing of milk'sgood for you, so they want you
to have milk for your meal.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I could never do that now.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
There was no other option.
You didn't have water or tea toeven pick.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
White milk or chocolate.
Milk.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
White milk or chocolate milk, and it was
always a fight for thatchocolate milk.
Nobody wanted white milk.
No, I would just not drink If Ihad to get the white milk.
I just didn't drink anything.
But see, then, when I got tohigh school, I got a Propel
every day.
So I had a strawberry kiwiPropel every single day, gotcha.
So it was like that's what Iwent to See.
I had to pay extra for it, butI did get it.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
This is a nostalgia thing too.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I remember having the machines in the hallways in
high and that stuff was good.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I don't think they make fruitopia anymore and it
was probably like a thousandgrams of sugar in it.
Oh, probably it was so good.
The closest I found is minutemade, you know, has their
lemonade and stuff and they havelike a fruit punch and stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
It's not so, but the thing is, I don't like regular
fruit punch yeah but fruitopiadidn't feel like regular oh, it
didn't.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
There's something about so many flavors.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
They did.
But then it was like everybodykind of transitioned from
Fruitopia, when that stopped, tothe Sobe, the different drinks
that they did, then they had theLifewaters and then they had
all the other, they still makestuff.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'm not really big on those All these flavored waters
and sparkling waters.
I just can mind that it's likea really, really watered down
drink to me.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I think it just depends on the brand you get,
because some of them are prettystrong, like you actually get
some pretty good flavor, butthat's a little bit different
too.
I mean, you're taking me back.
There's a lot of lunches Iremember, even like I.
I mean, none of the food wasreal, like the mashed potatoes
were not real potatoes like it's.
There's no telling what youwere actually eating, but a lot

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of this was really good I ateall of it.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I did too pretty much every day.
Um, I know my sister, would youknow, die over the bosco sticks
you're going to bosco sticks.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah well, do you remember?
She ordered something I doremember that yeah, she found
website and it was like thedirect cafeteria supplier.
Now you have to buy them, bythe case.
You can't just buy a little bit.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm sure she had no problem with that we had a case
of Bosco sticks in our freezer.
I don't know if those are stillin schools or not.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
No, no, those have been for a long time.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, probably not healthy enough.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Well, there there was .
You know, michelle obama ruinedcafeteria lunches.
It was really good.
Before that, yeah, and thenthat's when they did the whole.
All of the vending machineswere taken.
Well, they weren't necessarilytaken out, but all the like.
We used to be able to buyregular soda in high school.
Oh yeah, we could do like theydidn't.
Everything went to zero anddiet and, like you could like,
at the high school, within thelast 10 years, you couldn't buy

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like regular gatorade.
It was only zero, zero stuff.
Like you couldn't do anythingwith sugar, like it was, it was
taking everything yeah, that'sweird but then at the same time
it took all the flavor out ofthe food.
So it was a very it was a mess.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I remember snack machines like before football
practice I'd grab a bag of snackmachines a bag of-Its or
Garnettos or something like that.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
No, you couldn't get anything like that, like simple
peanut butter crackers or it'sall just granola bars.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
So is it still that way?
Because I haven't been in highschool in a while.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Currently, I think it is I don't have a kid in high
school.
I haven't been there in a while, so I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Well, like I said my daughter, she can get pizza and
she can pay extra.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'll call.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Brad, she can get cookies.
She has to pay extra for them.
It's not with your lunch.
You can buy cookies and thingslike that.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I feel like they've loosened up some, because even
then that stuff wasn't anoffering, a few years ago.
It was very, very basic stuff.
Maybe they're coming backaround with some food, you'd buy
a sleeve of the mini donuts,like when I was in school.
Oh yeah, like you had all kindsof that cosmic brownies, like
you name it.
We had it, we had it there andit was like 35 cents, Like it
was super, super cheap.
Can't go to the gas station bythat.

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Now it's like a dollar yeah.
I can tell you the last timeI've had a Cosmic Brownie or a
sleeve of donuts.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Now I like the little sleeve of donuts, like the
chocolate donuts with chocolatemilk.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
They do my thing.
I just feel like they changed.
They don't taste the same.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I can't find good chocolate milk anymore.
I could just a single bottle.
That's been my problem, becauseI just make my own.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, that's not as good either.
I mean, we almost always havechocolate syrup at the house.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Back when I well, we do, because our boys love it.
We try to limit it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I mean, ours is you know, if Amanda's making
something, it calls for whatever, like just whatever she's
baking.
But yeah, every now and thenI'll just be like, yeah, I'll
just go make chocolate.
There was a kick.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
When I first started the job I'm at now and I
actually had to go to the office, I would stop and get a little
pack of those donuts and achocolate milk, like every
morning.
That was my breakfast, so I'msure that was great for me
that's terrible.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
RFK Jr would love to hear that.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Do something about it .
Rfk.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
He's working on it.
He's trying.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Come on, bobby, help me out.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Well, that actually, of course, food tangent.
As normal, we get off on those.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I'm already getting hungry.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
But one thing we talked about.
This has been a few weeks,maybe a month ago, I'm not sure
exactly how long ago.
Brian posted it on our Facebookthis evening yes, the NFL is
making a change in how they Ican't really say how they spot
the ball, because they're notactually changing how they spot

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the ball, I know.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
When I first saw it, I was excited.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I was too.
So when I first pulled up thearticle and it's saying they're
changing some rules.
They're looking at the overtimerule.
They're looking at how theyspot the ball.
They're looking at onside kicks.
They're looking at a bunch ofstuff.
You know the very normal stuff.
Post-nfl season, they gothrough all the different
penalties.
Should we change this?

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Should we do this?
You know the very normal things.
Well, we talked about it awhile back.
We both feel the NFL needs tochange how they spot the ball,
how they do first down, why westill have a manual chain gang.
You know all those.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Get rid of the chains .

Speaker 1 (24:46):
That's old school so the article comes out and
they're saying well, the nfl islooking at changing how they
they do ball spot.
What I saw was getting rid ofthe chains and I was like, yes,
finally well, so I pulled up thearticle and it's like well,
they're not changing a manualball placement, so a referee
still has to place the ballwhere he feels it was last.

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And that's the problem, and theonly technology they're
bringing in will then read ifit's a first down or not from
where he placed it.
So it's like, okay, what's thepoint of that then?

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I guess it's just going to go.
It'll be able to tell them ifit was 10 yards from where they
started, so you won't physicallysee chains on the side.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I guess no, or are they still going to put them
there.
Chains are still there.
They said they'll be like abackup thing.
But they're not moving them.
Chains are still going to runexactly how they always have.
They are just now the backupinstead of the technology being
the backup.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I feel like when the ref spots the ball, you could
look over there and tell Firstdown or not.
That's typically what they do,and if it's really really close,
then they would ring the chains.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Then they pause it.
So the only thing that you willnow do Is you'll maybe get a
couple less pauses a game,because very rarely is it that
close.
Most of the time it's likethat's half yard and we move it,
or it looks short.
It takes a pretty big playwithin the game For them to say
we need to stop and actuallymeasure this.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
The one good thing I can see from this is there has
been some plays where theofficials will motion first down
and it was really close, likethey probably should have
measured or something, so itmight get that.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
But you're talking what?
Not even a play a game.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
No, and that's not the overall problem.
The overall problem is thisofficial trying to spot the ball
at the right spot.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well, because we saw so many instances where they
spotted it completely, I mean, ayard off of where it actually,
yeah, should have been.
So the technology is not beused, not being used for those
purposes.
It's only going to be post aref spotting the ball.
So it's kind of to me it's awaste, are they?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
trying to speak game up.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Maybe we're on the right track, but it shouldn't
take us five years to get there.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
We should be able to say, hey, this sucks, we need to
go now I still don't know why,and they're calling this, uh,
ball hocking technology orsomething like that.
I think it's what it's called.
Um, so it's tracking the ballfrom cameras, basically correct.
So we just need to get a littlebit better tracking the ball
itself and let it tell themwhere to put the ball.
You know, and I'm not going toget into this at the moment but

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TGL has the technology where alight shows up around the green
to show where to put the ball,that's what we need.
Let's have something pop up onthe field.
Here's where the ball goes, andthere's no official guessing,
because that's what they do theyguess.
They can say, oh we know,that's all they're doing.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
They don't really know.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
They can't keep up with these players and the speed
of these players, and whenthey're in a big pack and you
can't hardly see the ball.
That's what we've got to fix.
So while I'm excited thatthere's something going on, it's
still not the right somethingyet.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, I mean mean, like I said, we're on the path,
but our path shouldn't take aslong as it's going to take,
because we're we're going to dothis for a year and then we're
going to say, well, did thatreally do anything?
I go ahead and tell you, nfl,the answer is no, it's not
really going to do anything.
You're going to save a coupleof seconds of broadcast, like
it's.
It's not overall, gonna be not.
Hey, this is the new greatestthing.
I understand the whole thing ofhuman error.

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I don't want to fully take outhuman error because that's kind
of part of what makes sportsgreat?
no, take it out I just feel likethen it goes too much of
everything's automated,everything is I'm okay with it.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Are you seeing what's happening in mlb?

Speaker 1 (28:26):
but it's still, it's still controlled.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
They only get like two well, I know it's not an
every time, but they call someout and it's like yeah, but
here's the thing I've seen.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I've seen them wrong as many times I've seen them
right already.
So like they're.
They're still like.
The umpires are still gettingsome right that the guys like.
No, that's wrong.
And there's the umpires allstill getting something right
that the guys are like no,that's wrong and the umpires are
still right.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I feel the same thing about footballs that do
baseball, basketball, whatever.
If we can get every call right,why not?
Now there's some calls that'salways going to be judgment
calls and you're not going to beable to.
I'm okay with those.
But, if there's a yes or noanswer, we need the yes or no
answer To an extent like I, I'mnot.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I'm not fully sold on the the robot umpiring, the way
that they are currently set,and you know these major league
pitchers, they are incredible.
They can spot things so muchbetter than even high level
college guys can.
So some of these strikes thatthey are getting even that I'm
currently seeing you're notgetting that in any league ever,

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but they're now going to get itbecause maybe a piece of the
thread of of the seam might havecaught the edge of it it's like
all right that that's not astrike.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I get that and I understand.
Even the technology is going tohave its flaws.
The question is, is there lessflaws with it?
So if the technology is missing20%, where the umpires are
missing 30%, we got 10% better.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
No, but here's the thing.
A major league umpire is like96%, correct or better.
We're not talking that.
He's like 80.
He's not missing 20% of thecalls.
They're missing less than 5% ofthe calls.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I've seen some pretty-ref calls though.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yes, but those are bad umpires.
Oh, definitely To me.
Instead of saying let'scompletely overhaul everything,
how about you just get rid ofthe crappy ones?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Because we've got some really bad umpires.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
If the technology works, I don't need the umpire
to even call it, just let thetechnology call balls or strikes
and move on, because you haveto have an umpire there still.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
So then he's just going to stay in there the whole
game.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Pretty much that's what the rest of them do until
they're needed on a play.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
That's a waste.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I mean all the other umpires.
They stand there until there'sa call at a bag, or is it foul
ball?
I mean it's the same thing.
I'm just saying, if we have thetechnology to make it better,
let's make it better.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I'm fine with technology coming in to an
extent, but I don't want it tocompletely take over sports,
because then it's just going tofeel like you're changing it
completely.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Like I said, there's always going to be some judgment
calls.
But see, I feel the same way instill talking about baseball.
You know, know out or safe onon any, any base.
If there's technology that cantell us that I don't do it, why
do we need to have?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
I don't like games, but everything right now would
be video, and then it's going totake a lot longer.
No, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
No way to quickly do, no but if they get to some
technology, that that can see.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
At the same time, though, the umpires at a base.
They don't get that wrong much.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Most of those guys are pretty dang good.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
The ones that have gotten it wrong are there's a
couple umpires, I'm thinking,but they've been voluntold to
leave.
There's a few of those that itwas like oh, all of a sudden
they retired.
They didn't look like they wereready to leave.
There's a few of those that itwas like, oh, all of a sudden
they retired.
They didn't look like they wereready to retire.
They're now gone and there's afew of those that's like, hey,
you made me mad.
I'm now making bad calls.
It's kind of what it felt like.

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That's what they did.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
I'm just all for the least amount of error.
If humans can be more accuratethan the technology and be more
accurate than the technology,I'm all for it.
I just want the best possiblecause.
I guess, when it comes to thesegames, I want it to be left up
to the players.
We see it in basketball so much.
Basketball officiating ishorrible right now and I don't

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know how you fix that.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Basketball to me is the last.
So basketball and football,those sports, I don't think
you're ever going to really beable to go much automated
because there's everything'sinterpretation like there's no,
yeah, there's no like set instone this, this, this, because
I agree, just because you touchsomebody isn't a foul, but then

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there are times when you touchsomebody that it isn't like yeah
, there's so many littledifferences.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
That's the ones I say that I know we can't do
anything about those now thatyou just got to educate
officials, get better officials.
But same thing within football,the spotting the ball that
doesn't need to be an official'sjudgment.
Basketball, there's probablysome things with.
You know, was he behind thethree-point line?
Something can tell us that.
Was it goaltending?
Something can tell us that?
I don't think it has to be ajudgment call well.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
So they've already done with with behind the
three-point line.
If it's remotely questionable,they play on they, they signal
it, it goes, they're reviewedwithout them having to go check,
but they do that with uhgoaltending too, like in college
, they'll say, oh, we need tocheck this.
What I?

Speaker 2 (33:20):
hate though is is, you know, they go to a timeout
and they come back.
Oh, we took two points awayfrom this team because we found
out it was goaltending.
Okay, that's just weird to me.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
But the thing is, though, you don't have to do a
stoppage of any kind, so thereis no way without immensely
changing the ball itself, whichI don't think is a good idea to
be able to say is thatgoaltending or not?

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Because then you're talking about like sensors on
players at that point, At whatpoint did it get to like there'd
be so many things?
It'd?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
be impossible.
But I'm thinking of likecameras.
I mean we got cameras trackingthese golf balls in our driving
range.
We can track where the ball is.
It's a static thing, it's alittle bit different when you're
then talking about this movingplus this moving plus timing.
It's a little different.
I get what you're saying there.
I'm just saying if there's away for us to look at it, we
should.
And the the biggest thing Ihave with the um, the

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goaltending, is the ones thatthey actually call goaltending
stop it, give it to the otherteam and then take the points
away later, when really thatteam was getting ready to
rebound, and put it back up.
So it's kind of like youstopped a play that could have
had different things.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
That's a few and far between typically when they call
like if they call it alegitimate one.
They don't typically go like.
At that point we're we'retrying to make a solution for a
one in a million problem.
It's like it's not worth themoney that it's going to be a
part of.
No, no, I agree.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I'm just saying I was using that as kind of an
example.
But anything that technologycan better I'm all for, because
I want the players to decide thegame as much as possible, not
the officials and we see thattoo much with officials.
I mean, that was the whole talkof the NFL this year with with
the chiefs.
It's been the talk of collegebasketball for years the but the

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chief's thing is different.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
The chiefs has nothing to do with.
Are the officials just missingthings?
That is the nfl trying to pusha dynasty oh, it feels like
that's.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
That's a very different thing so how would we
feel, though, if, if technologywas spotting the ball and it
spotted it just like theofficial did would we then go
all right?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
NFL's controlling the technology you wouldn't know it
.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
You don't think we'd still have the same problem,
because our eyes would see onething and technology would take
something else.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Maybe Camera angles can change so many things, I
agree.
So if the camera is pointed ina certain direction and all of a
sudden that thing labels itthree inches short, you can't
tell three inches on a hundredyard field.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I agree, like it's impossible so would it fix those
problems of everybody?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
questioning.
No, absolutely not.
Okay, I don't think so, becausethe thing is all of a sudden
it's short, or they got it by aninch, because now you're doing
tiny measurements instead of youknow the the officials, when
they come in a lot, there's veryfew times it's not on a half
yard or a yard yeah, andtypically it's on a yard.

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They don't need a lot of, don'teven do half, unless it's late
game, really important, likeit's to the yard pretty much.
If now we're talking to theinch and you either got it or
didn't get it by even less thanan inch, you can fabricate that
anytime you want like it's easyto put in there.
Yeah, it's easy to put inparameters into a program.
You know well, it's this sideplus x amount of distance.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, you could give it to them if you wanted to yeah
so I don't think that solvesanything like that well, I just
think we've got technology andso much stuff.
I I think there's use for it insports too, for some stuff it
works.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's for some fully in some things I don't think it
does.
I think it's still like, likein that instance you can still
cheat it.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
So I've been seeing it some and I don't watch this
very often and you'll know moreabout me, but in tennis, calling
the outs and stuff like thatDoes it seem pretty accurate.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Again, it's hit or miss.
Okay, Because the same thingSoccer's been doing this for a
while.
They have their VAR technology.
It has been wrong countlesstimes.
Yeah.
So it's like okay, if we'regoing to go to this system
because it's going to be perfectand it's not perfect, then
abandon it.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Well, nothing's going to be perfect.
I understand nothing's going tobe perfect To me.
Is it better than what we have?
And if it's not, I don't wantit.
Like, if you can't make thetechnology better than what the
officials are doing, then Idon't want the technology.
It's all about better in thegame.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
That's the thing Like with what NFL's getting ready
to do.
They even make the claim well,we used it in the background
last year, okay, well, well thengive us the stats on it.
What would it have actuallydone?
Would it have sped us up 30minutes of all?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
game.
Didn't they use it in preseasonalso?

Speaker 1 (37:49):
They've done a bunch of stuff.
Who okay, here's my questionwho watches preseason?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
NFL.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
That's very true.
Like that's like watching theHall of Fame game.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I don't watch most of the season.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
It's like a month before the season and it's like
Hall of Fame game in Canton Ohio.
That's like why.
What are we doing this for Likeeither?
You know, give them their ownlittle summer league.
Whatever they're going to do toget ready, let's just start
Like this whole, you know alittle bit.
Spring training feels a littledifferent than preseason

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football.
Those guys play like a quarter.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
The guys that you're watching spring training are
trying to make a roster, so likeit's they're trying really,
really hard, it's just different.
Preseason's like ah, it's justa warm up, nobody really cares.
Some of those guys are tryingto make a roster, but they're
only getting to play a coupleminutes a game.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
These guys are getting a couple of innings like
this are you gonna be like?

Speaker 2 (38:41):
yeah, you're just trying to make the preseason is
great for the teams, but as faras a fan, yeah, I don't know
that it makes any sense.
And now, if you're a diehardfan of that team, I guess you
probably watch everything.
But so.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
But then again I'll say spring training is also
different, because when you goyou know I have I've never
gotten to go and I really wouldlove to, but I've got some
buddies that used to go everysingle year down to spring
training for the stars.
They're way more laid back, soyou're actually getting like a
lot of fan interaction with them.
For these other guys you'rewatching really good baseball,
but it's almost like being atlike a smaller, almost like
travel ball style tournamentCause it's just these fields

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everywhere and it's like allthis moving parts.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
You're seeing content constantly.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
So it's.
It's a little different, Likeagain, preseason NFL.
It's one game, it's still at anNFL stadium.
They still treat it as a.
They still treat it as all thatstuff.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
It's no different other than hey, it doesn't count
.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
It's just kind of boring yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Like that.
Baseball is the only one to methat really does it right.
Because again, you go to theNBA and you talk summer league,
you're getting either the lowerguys from the draft, guys that
were undrafted and signed, orjust these random nobodies.
It's like, hey, this team wonthe Summer League.
When has that ever translatedto anything?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
It doesn't mean anything at all.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
It's such a waste, so I get it.
It's part of their product thatthey're.
Hey, we've got basketball moreoften this year than typical.
I couldn't tell you, if I'veever watched a Summer League
game, couldn't name a singleteam that's won Summer League
championships.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
No, I couldn't either it just feels so irrelevant.
No, I'm with you on that.
I think we disagree a littlebit on the technology.
I think we want the same thing.
It's just trying to find thebest way to do it.
But again, I see the technologyin TGL and I didn't get to
watch the one this week, I don'tknow if you did or not, but

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they're getting better.
It feels like.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well, tgl is very different though, because it's
TGL is using the base of golfbut it is not full-on golf Like.
It's still very different, soit's hard to say what technology
works there.
It is almost its own separatething altogether.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
They're not putting technology on the course.
No, they're, they're taking.
No, they're, they're basicallytaking some new thing altogether
which we've seen simulatorpopularity.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
You know, that is the thing.
These similar lounges, theseindoor things.
You know they've got so, somany of these now that you can
play football and then you playbaseball.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
We saw not too long ago these things at a golf
course.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
In their restaurant, they had a simulator correct
yeah, for for the winter timethey're doing all kinds of
leagues and stuff inside ofthere and it's like hey, you
have a course outside.
Yeah, you're still doing thisinside doing the inside stuff,
but it's.
That's what people are doingclimate controlled.
It's all the weather, so yeah,that's very different.
I will say I'm not a big fan ofchanging a pretty major rule

(41:28):
right in the middle of a season,but this one was needed.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
It was needed.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I agree so far pre-rule change, which they have
what's called the hammer.
Before it was alternatingdifferent teams.
Whoever started with it, itstayed with you until you threw
it.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
And teams would hold it the whole match.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
And that's the thing.
You went up 1-0, you held itthe whole match.
It's like why do I need tothrow it?
Why would I?
Because I'm just giving them achance to get back in it.
Or you get one successful one,the other team gets it, they
throw it and lose, and it's likeall of a sudden you're fully in
control.
There's nothing else they cando.
So now it's three per team.
I think it makes more sense tome that you just have the

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ability to do so.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
It's made the matches better, the ones I've seen.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Pre-rule change, we had one match within a point.
Post-rule change we've alreadyhad like four.
So it's like all right, we'reon the right path.
We are, I don't know how muchof those played into it.
So, when you look at it,there's been several that it's
like this match could havegotten out of hand if they

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didn't get to use this.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Let that get them in.
Yeah, because it's like wellthis team.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
We watched them use two in a row, where before that
wasn't even a possibility.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Well, I do have to say I had to go back and look
because you brought up last weekabout tommy fleetwood, um,
chipping one in in overtime.
It was overtime.
Um, I get mixed up becauseatlanta still won, of course.
Uh, well, atlanta still won.
That's what's throwing me off.
But because you have three,atlanta won the other two
correct?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
so it's kind of crazy that one guy out of three yeah,
one guy got a chip in, then youknow which I don't mind that,
because it's that's the thing.
If he ships in, he's the veryfirst person and the next guy
sticks it to a foot.
It's like all right, yeah, youbested me, but we're not talking
like me and you going out heredoing it.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
If it's me and you, yeah, we probably just need to
do one and be done, because Well, no, because they have three
people, so it's like the firsttwo go against each other.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yes, so you're best out of three, correct, and he
just happened to win the one.
But what I thought was strange,maybe in a sense, or maybe,
this is meant to be this way thetwo guys that put this league
together, their teams arehorrible, awful, well, so here's
the thing McIlroy and Tiger.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Tiger Woods has Kevin Kisner on his team.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I don't know if you saw it this week we have yet
another, kevin Kisner, on histeam.
I don't know if you saw it thisweek we have yet another, kevin
Kisner shank.
Really it is a.
It feels like every time theyplay he has one and I I saw a um
a caption on it today and itwas like having Kevin Kisner
play with these guys is likehaving a regular person in the
Olympics and seeing what happens.
And it's like having kevinkisner play with these guys is

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like having a regular person inthe olympics and seeing what
happens.
And it's like we're now seeingwhat happens and it's like he's
just again I said it several,several weeks ago he, he doesn't
look like he can move well, hiships don't look like he's he's
healthy.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
So it's like just stop playing well, so right now,
uh, and I'm looking at herethree teams have already
clinched in the playoffs there'sonly, uh what four la atlanta
and the bay.
Yep, there's four spots, yeahnew york, jupiter and boston.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Okay, jupiter and boston haven't won anything yet.
Jupiter's won one match oh,that's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
They beat boston boston's won none, yeah and the
uh.
If you go look at the scores,well, what scares me about that.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
That's, keegan Bradley, who is Ryder Cup
captain, is on Boston, which,again, he's going to be the
captain, doesn't mean he's goingto play.
We haven't seen a playingcaptain in a long time.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
So last Tuesday New York beat Jupiter, which is
Tiger's team, 10-3.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yes, and New York has struggled.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Jupiter lost to LA earlier in the year 12-1.
Yeah, like these guys createdthis, if I'm Tiger and I created
this, my team is going to beloaded Like I'm not going out.
Well, look at Tiger's team itis loaded.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
They just haven't had I'm not going out.
Well, look at Tiger's team, itis loaded.
They just haven't had all thoseguys every time.
I guess Because Kisner has hadto play several times, because
either Tom Kim wasn't availableor who's there Not Fleetwood.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I'd have to look it up.
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
They've got a pretty good team.
Apparently not good enough.
It's just that Kisner's had toplay a lot because he was kind
of their alternate and he keepsgetting stuck in there.
Now I did find it weird.
We did see for the first timeLA did a one-match deal with
Tony Finau to come play becausethey had two guys that couldn't

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make it, and they let him dothat.
Kind of the league was likesign somebody because we don't
want to lose a match.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
You've got to play yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Going to get Tony Finau is huge.
It is.
He's a heck of a player.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I didn't realize that Was that recently.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, like this week.
Tony Finau.
I love Tony Finau, he's awesome, so that was another good one
to get.
I don't know if you also sawBrooks Koepka was there this

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week.
I did not.
No, I didn't get to watch itthis week.
So brooks is hanging out withtiger and jupiter when they
played.
So I'm like all right, if we'regetting that, that can't mean
anything other than those guysbeing eligible next year.
I mean, bring brooks, bringbring bryson.
Like I want to see those guysin there.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
So how would you feel if you're the other team and
this first year maybe not somuch, but you're the other team
and you're like New York we needto get some wins to try to get
in the playoffs and they show upto play LA and oh guys, by the
way, we're bringing in Finau forone game and it happens to be
the game we're playing you Imean, I don't think, I don't
think finau is necessarilybetter than the people they're

(47:05):
missing.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
It's not like they're getting like, maybe not.
It's not like they went andsaid, hey, scotty you know
number one player in the worldthat'd be come, come here and
play with us, like it wasn'tsomething.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Is he gonna show up on tiger's team next week?

Speaker 1 (47:16):
scotty is, yeah, try to get him in the playoffs kevin
kisner hit the gym and now he'sbig like scty and there he is.
No.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I've enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I don't know that we see Tiger even playing it next
year, or he may be the Kisner ofnext year where he's kind of
like the team alternate, buthe's there kind of I've run this
thing type deal.
Yeah, you mentioned it before,he's not playing much.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
I could see him just being like a captain that
doesn't play.
So they have, I guess, guess,is it one of their caddies who
normally do the virtual caddyand stuff for them?
Yeah, uh, I could see somebodylike getting tiger or somebody
like that to just be their caddyguy.
Give them advice, you know not.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Actually, it's all going to depend to me on how
many teams do they want to have,because if they expand and they
have a bunch more teams, tigerwill keep playing because
they're going to need the peopleyeah curious to see if we have
any people not re-up theircontract for next year, like I
don't know what their contractscurrently are unless they sign
multi-year deals or whatever itis.
But I'm just curious do we seeanybody drop out?

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Because I mean, you look atBoston Struggled.
Are they going to try to finddifferent people?
You know, are we going to seelike a free agent?
Are we going to see it be likeother team sports?
Is it going to feel like are wegoing to see trades?
Are we going to see?
That to me could make it morefun, kind of the off-season of
TGL.
This just in, tiger tradedKisner and a loaf of bread.

(48:35):
A loaf of bread, really.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Listen, the loaf of bread is worth more than Kisner
right now.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
I know bread out of everything you could have said,
a loaf of bread I could havewent with a million things there
and a loaf of bread just poppedin my head.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
I know that's what's bothering me Very simple.
Why did a loaf of bread?

Speaker 1 (48:50):
We talked about toast earlier, so it's kind of still
been there it could have beencheese.
It could have been soup.
It could.
I don't have that, that's notold school Like wheel of cheese
is still a thing I don't buy awheel of cheese.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
I got slices.
I got Kraft Singles slices.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
No, I mean, I know what I'm Listen, I don't even
think Kisner is currently wortha pack of Kraft Singles.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
I mean he's have you bought it recently?
I think that cheese it'sexpensive, yeah, I agree, but
that no, you get cheap cheeseyou know it.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Yeah, I don't know what the difference is, but it's
very different.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
That'll ruin a sandwich real quick.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Cheap store brand singles.
Yeah, we ain't doing that, butanyways, kisner's not worth
anything right now.
I mean, I don't know thatKisner does it again next year.
Well, the fact that Finau cameon, I don't know that Kisner's
going to be playing golf nextyear because he's already doing
broadcast stuff.
I think it was kind of weneeded somebody.
Let's throw him in.
He's got personality, he's fun,he's one to keep around because
of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
But again, I'm still on the path to put him in the
booth.
But the fact that Finau camearound and Kepka was around, I
think it kind of says there'ssome interest from other guys.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
So they could definitely bring in some other
guys.
Now, the biggest issue that Ithink we're going to still see,
though, is ESPN likes numbers.
Numbers haven't been great.
It was down to like 300,000over President's Day, which is
last week.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
But I don't like this time of year that they're doing
it Like golf is starting tocome back up.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
We're getting into spring, no, so that to me, I
think you're overpopulatingbecause you've got late season
college basketball so it's like,all right, this is their
technical playoff push at thispoint.
Yep, you've got NBA was just atthe all-star break, so you've
got their midseason starting nowto look at that decline push
towards playoffs.

(50:41):
Mm-hmm.
Baseball's getting ready tostart.
Golf is now having some bigtournaments already, and if
you're going to watch TGL andyou watch any PGA Tour or live,
whatever it is, that's puttingyou watching golf five days a
week.
For a lot of people that's fine, but for a lot of people it's
like that's too much.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
I think you kind of ride the crowd ending college
football.
Maybe you start showing uparound the end of college
football.
Well, I mean, I guess I'mearlier.
I would do it during theregular season college football,
because college footballdoesn't have games that's what I
mean more the end of regularseason college football, and so
to me I would do this two weekspost tour championship.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah, so I'm good.
So like right after theyfinished, because pga does pga.
So to me I would do this twoweeks post-Tour Championship.
Yeah, I'm good with that.
So, like right after theyfinish, because PGA does PGA
Fall, it's for a bunch ofno-name guys that are trying to
get Tour status.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I couldn't even tell you they did that.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Exactly, exactly.
I'm into it, so I know it.
But it's guys that are tryingto keep status or trying to see
where they're going to fall.
And you know, it's this lastlittle push that they
technically call the season buttechnically also say it's not,
because you've already had yourchampionships.
So what's the point?
So to me it's like all right,put it then.
Put it where these guys likethey're still in good form, but

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it's a relaxing, like you're nothaving to travel a ton, you
kind of just go hang out it,just go hang out it needs to be
their off-season stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
There shouldn't be guys missing because they're
traveling.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I think it would be a little more fun during that
period for sure you did miss.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
When you're listing all the things they're competing
with, you forgot NASCAR.
I didn't miss that.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I absolutely did not miss that, yeah you did, which
they're not competing with,though, because the day TGL is
not Golf is but TGL, though,because the day, the day, like
tgl, is not golf, yeah, tgl,yeah, no, I, I agree with that,
um, which again tgl put it onone day, on one time and stick
with it.
I miss so many of them becauseit's alternating mondays and
tuesdays, and it is one week'sat nine, one week's at 7, 30 one

(52:38):
, I mean it's just that's sohard.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
That's one thing you can say about nascar.
You can, you can hate it if youwant, but you know what day
nascar is on.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I know not to watch it.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
To be honest with you , there's different levels of
NASCAR.
There's Truck Series that'sbeen around forever.
There's Xfinity Series yearsago Older people know it as
Busch Series.
Then you have the Cup Series.
I find myself enjoying theXfinity Series way better.
I don't know if it's becausethese guys are trying to make a
name for themselves.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
The cars are different, I find myself
enjoying.
Paint Dry.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Well, you know what you just mute your mic for a
minute.
Take your headphones off, we'lltalk NASCAR.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
I'll lay back and take a nap.
If I start to snore, just kickme, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
So, anyways, you mentioned something earlier.
I'm going to get Brad watchingsome NASCAR with me.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
That's what we're going to do you know I bet Brad,
Brad watches it with Larry some.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I bet Brad would be a blast watching NASCAR with.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Probably not.
Why do you think?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
that.
If anything happened, I thinkhe'd be excited.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
He has no attention span, so he's not going to sit
there and Listen.
Brad is not going to sit thereand watch from lap one all the
way through.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
No, I need the.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
With any program.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
It doesn't matter what sport, it doesn't matter
anything, but could you imaginethe exciting moments Like that's
where he'd be there, and Ithink it would be great If he's
still watching.
That's the thing he would watch.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
He would watch Like here's the thing you go 20 laps
of them just driving the circle.
90% of that base is like allright, I'm yeah, yeah.
All they're looking for is awreck.
That's what people are Like.
Most of these fans are likethey're only happy when there's
a wreck.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
No, no, you don't know NASCAR.
That's why you say that I can'tagree with you on that.
Now, again, I'll say the CupSeries.
This year I've kind of beenbored with Even Daytona, which
is supposed to be an excitingrace.
I'm not loving it.
I think it really comes back tothe cars, and you mentioned
that's one reason you don't careabout cars.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
They're not real cars .
They're not real cars.
They're not cars.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
But they've done so much recently to try to, I guess
, make everything, even thateverybody uses the same parts,
the same everything, and it'sjust really ruined it.
For me, to be honest, evenAtlanta is like a drafting track
now, kind of like daytona, andit's supposed to be exciting and
I I can't get about it.

(54:52):
Now here's one thing I'll say.
The big controversy and so Iwant to get your um opinion on
this is not kidding about nascar, so you got to pay attention
for this part.
There's been some really bigcontroversy around.
When there's a wreck on thelast lap, okay if it's the last
lap.
And there's a wreck on the lastlap, okay, if it's the last lap
.
And there's a wreck and theythrow the caution, the field is

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kind of frozen and whoever isleading at that moment of
caution wins the race, even ifyou've not made it back to the
line yet.
You've got to finish, but youwin.
They stop it, they freezeeverything there.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
So, under caution, on the last lap they stop.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I mean, if the caution comes out, it's
whoever's leading is the winner.
You don't continue racing, andthe reason being is there's a
big rig Because they're going tokeep moving.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
You're going to pass the finish line.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah, you're going to pass the finish line, but
you're not racing anymore.
It doesn't matter Like somebodyelse can pass you the finish
line.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
It doesn't matter when they go under caution, they
still count those as latchright.
They do, yes, so it would justbe no different.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
No, no, okay, they call the caution because they
don't want people in the backkind of racing through a caution
, basically, which makes sense.
Then other times, if they deemit safe enough, they don't throw
the caution and they let theguys race to the finish.

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And so the big controversy iswhat should they be doing and
why are they doing what they'redoing?

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Well, so my thing is if you throw a caution flag
during the race, it's nodifferent whether it's the last
lap or not, Like if the flag isthrown and you're like all right
you don't.
You're not technically racingLike you're not.
You don't.
You're not technically racingLike you're not.
You don't be moving spots,you're.
You're kind of just frozen intime, but you're making, you
still make your circles.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Yes, it's no different.
No, it's the exact same.
No, but that's not my question.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
You're right, the question is mean it's going to
depend on what is it?
If it's worth a flag, thatmeans it's bad enough that they
you probably not safe enough todo that so guys in the front are
, it's the guys in the back.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
That you're right, you know.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
But that's the thing is.
It's not a couple guys leading.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
They can race to the finish still and be fine usually
I mean potentially, but it's,it's where it's.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
My look at is like all right, well, here's what it
is written within the rules oncaution.
So if under those caution youcan't, you're deeming it unsafe,
for because even during therace the front 30 could go by
and you throw a caution becausethere's I don't know how many
people are in NASCAR full field.

(57:23):
What?
50?
40.
40.
So the last 10 are really theonly ones affected, but it's
still not safe for those last 10, the front's affected still
then well, but the same thinghappens there.
Everybody's frozen and you, youcan't pass each other and you
kind of.
That's what I'm saying.
It's so different, yeah no, Iagree if they throw the caution.
You have to do that.
If that's where your rule'swritten, then yeah, you just I.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
The question is, should they throw the caution in
some races they have, racesthey haven't, and a lot of the
guys are like we don't know, youcan't caution half the field
you can't like.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
No, no, what they're just doing basically is saying
it meets the specification of acaution.
So they're just throwing itLike they're not looking at the
situation, but sometimes they'renot throwing the caution when
they might should, and so thatenforces the rules.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
nascar rule book is the only one I've ever seen that
basically gives them discretionto do whatever they want, like
it's a rule, but we can, at ourdiscretion, do this or we can do
that and maybe that's likewe've seen that other sports
over years, but it never workswell, like you see it go away
from that pretty quickly,because it's just, it's too it's
been that way a long time fornascar.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Maybe they're seeing like, hey, it's causing
controversy, so it's here's thething.
Controversy in any sport isgood for the sport like it puts
eyes on it like I'm not going togive a crap about any NASCAR
race, but you tell me this guywon at the very end because he,
I mean, just absolutely wreckedthis guy and they didn't call

(58:58):
anything on it and he won.
All right, I might read thatarticle, yeah, but if nothing
controversial happens at afinish, I'm not going to.
No, I'm with you, so most ofyour non-current fan base
controversy fits, so maybethat's what they're playing off
of.
I don't know, obviously, butthat's with any broadcast.
I feel like if there'scontroversy they always play

(59:18):
that up immensely.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
We need a stipulation with downloads or something to
where you've got to watch aNASCAR race or like a short.
We can do the all-star race,maybe in the middle of the year.
That's shorter, absolutelySomething.
Yeah, we have to at least getyou watching it.
No, that way you can just comeon here.
You're just going to come onhere and trash it and then
you're going to make everybodymad.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I can trash it now if you really want me to.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
But that's the thing, so you could say it's boring
but you don't know anythingabout it.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Growing up, my neighbors, who are my cousins,
are huge NASCAR fans.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
They don't watch it anymore because they say it
sucks.
I just said it's boring,there's so many people.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
It's not enjoyable.
There's no names that you getbehind.
There's nobody that you're justfull on in.
All those guys have technicallyretired.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
But who you're talking about.
I said myself it's boring, LikeI'd rather watch the Xfinity
series this year.
But the guys who say that stuffare those old school guys who
were Dale Earnhardt guys, JeffGordon guys, whoever, and they
just can't handle a youngergeneration coming in.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Well, there are plenty of stars, stars in the
sport, but there's no staroutside of the sport.
There's nobody in nascarcurrently.
They were like, oh, we know whothat is, even out of nascar
that's a nascar problem, butwhat I'm saying, though, that's
you have to build that asthey're coming and they didn't I
think it's, uh, a differenttime.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
It's partly part of it because back then racing was
so different.
You know, I would be curious tosee, uh, our racing viewers,
viewership, fandom, whatever isit up or down like just racing
across the board from from yearsago, because I feel like racing
was bigger back then I've notlooked, so I think you're seeing

(01:01:07):
.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
So some of the viewership numbers I looked at
when we were talking about it afew weeks ago when it was
NASCAR's year to start.
You have seen like a growth inlike F1 stuff, which again,
that's not really a big thing inAmerica.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
That's not super popular here in other countries
more so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
But you're seeing some boost in it.
But I think part of there isjust marketing Like they're just
they're more out there thanthey used to be.
So I'm not really saying thatthat's nothing against NASCAR,
because it's just NASCAR is anAmerican thing, it's only
America.
Like you're not getting theoutside viewership, it's just
not common.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
They're going to Mexico this year, which I don't
know what that does.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
But I would say, yeah , race down there on the streets
, there's not much to it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
So as a NASCAR fan, I don't like when they go like
Mexico and race on the streetslike get back to the tracks,
let's be NASCAR.
You know there's, don't do toomuch of that away from it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
So do you think NASCAR shouldn't do road tracks?

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I'm okay with some.
Uh, they're they're trying toget that other audience because
nascar has gotten big lately.
Uh, in other countries, as in,they're bringing in drivers from
like australia and things likethat that we're doing, these
other road racing type stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I mean, they've brought in some guys usually
it's been like some spaniardsand things of that nature which
racing is huge and in europelike that's, that's such a
massive thing, it's road racingand those guys come over
Everything where there is roadracing.
They don't do Circle track.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
And I think NASCAR is doing Too many road races
Trying to capture more of thataudience and I wish they'd just
get back to the road NASCAR camefrom.
Like you're talking about Runof Moonshine and the old dirt
track races and your local guysand like, just just be that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Yeah, I mean, nascar was founded on backwoods
rednecks run from the police.
Yeah, like that, I mean that'sjust what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
That's just, that's not a sophisticated version of
that, but it's not even reallysophisticated.
Let's just be a modern, youknow, law-abiding version of
that here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
I will never get into nascar, and the biggest reason
is always going to be the car Iget that.
I just the car like.
If all of a sudden they're like, all right, let's actually just
use cars, let's use real cars.
There's gonna be all thestipulations, all things on it.
You know, whatever that maylook like, that would bring me
closer to it how many series dothat?

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
do you know?
Like there's a couple rightthat use?
Oh, there's a bunch, but that'sall, yeah, okay that's, I mean
that's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
That's not a like if you're gonna do american racing
with actual cars you're lookingat like autocross so what about,
like your local dirt track?

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
who has like the um, uh, what's so?
Chevette series those are realcars, those are chevettes but
you're talking dirt track that'swell no, some of them run on
blacktop redneck than that someof them run on blacktop yeah,
but all, all of the like again.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
If we're going to go into what I don't like, all
right, you don't have real cars.
And then hey, if you weren'tsure what was going to happen
next, they're going to make aleft turn Like oval track is
boring.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
There's just nothing to it, it's literally watching
guys drive.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
I get you.
It's a personality thing,because I feel the exact
opposite.
I am bored to death watchingroad racing, any kind of road
courses, it's just too long.
Motorsports as a whole though,is not a Left, right, left right
.
I guess I just don't need allthat.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
There's very few people on the fence of
motorsports.
You're not.
Eh, I don't mind it, You're.
Either you like it or you don't.
Yeah, Motorsports as a wholefor me is not interesting.
It's not a fun thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Whether you like NAS, you're all in on that.
Sure like these guys that do it100, like that's their thing
it's their identity.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yeah, I mean like even just as a fan, most of
those people, that is theirfull-on identity is there any
other sport that's like like?

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
so nascar has like older retired people, whatever
that just literally travel trackto track to track with their
campers there's the people dothat with the biggest sport in
the world, soccer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Okay, not in America.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Okay, I can see that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
That is, look at any, you know, Premier League or
whatever you know, over inEurope.
They're at every game, that islike the amount of jerseys they
own, the different colors ofjerseys they own, like their
life, which the same thing.
You can travel to weigh matchesover there.
Like Europe is much smallerthan our country, so it's easy

(01:05:33):
to just hop around, just go.
I'm not saying it's like supercheap or super easy, but you can
do it here if it's like.
Well, I'm into MLS and my teamis Miami, we're in North
Carolina.
I'm not getting to go watch themmuch, and I didn't watch them
much, and then now they'replaying somebody in Washington
State.
I'm not getting to go watchthat, that's too far, but I
would assume.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Well, I guess it's different.
Like I was going to say, Iwould assume, like, take a
basketball team in Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
I would just want to blank on the name Hornets,
hornets.
I was going to say Bob Gansky.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
You do this every time.
I do it every time I don.
It's just that one.
I'm sure there's people thatlike go to every game, just like
a kentucky basketball fan.
I know there's people that justgo to every kentucky basketball
game, but you don't have totravel to it, it's the same
arena every single time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
When we lived close to there at one point, you could
get tickets for like fivedollars.
Yeah, now you're talkingnosebleeds yeah but it's still
like five bucks.
So like, why wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
but like you're talking, about like we mentioned
with nascar, or if you're arallycross guy or soccer, you'll
travel around to every place.
It ain't just the home placeI'm going everywhere they're at
I'm going, so I think it'sdedicated fan bases.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
It's like your big fan bases.
In other sports we always sayit Alabama football, georgia
football.
They travel.
Well, tennessee is a huge one.
Tennessee will travel anywherein the country to watch their
team play.
Go to every game.
That's just the way they are.
It's a dedicated fan base.
So where in soccer, like I said, we don't really see it in

(01:07:04):
America because our league isnot a top league?
Notice across the world, allthose are Spanish leagues and
all the European stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Does soccer ever get big in the US, you think?
Or is it going to kind ofalways be like hockey and be
that second tier Hockey'sgrowing, don't get me wrong so
hockey is part of the big four,Like it's football, basketball,
baseball hockey.
It's the fourth, I was going tosay how many hockey teams do we
have?
But several of those are inCanada.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
So you can't quite count that?
I don't think but the NHL isimmensely more popular than
soccer here, other countries notso much.
I mean again, soccer is thebiggest sport in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Is soccer ever going to catch hockey Like here?

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
locally soccer is growing like crazy it is, but
you're just talking about, like,small town.
I can't see professional soccergrowing to that extent because,
again, like, what makes it socrazy in these other places is
how many teams you have withinthree hours.
Okay, I mean like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Yeah, we could never really have that.
We don't have that in anythingelse.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
There's a guy I used to see some different reels of,
and he's a british guy that'slived in america for a long time
.
He just went back and he's likethere's people that talk about
45 minutes to get across theirtown.
He's like I've went throughseven cities in 45 minutes it's
like it.
You got to think about the sizeof those areas is so much

(01:08:27):
smaller yeah europe as a wholeis nothing compared to america.
So when you've got 20 teams inone country, yeah, you could go
watch all of them yeah, it's.
It's a whole lot easier we'rehere like the closest soccer
team for us.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
I couldn't even tell you like we have nothing near us
here I don't know what madesoccer so big in the world, and
again from America it never hasbeen big here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Cheap and easy to play, it doesn't take much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
You need some grass and a soccer ball.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
So when we used to do a bunch of mission trips in
Mexico soccer is huge in Mexicowe actually got to go one year
during the World Cup.
Mexico won, the entire countryshut down.
They were doing parades and upmexico won like the entire
country shut down.
They're doing parades and thiswas like a group play thing,
like it was ridiculous, but uh,and then when they made it to
the, to the actual bracket, theplace shut down again like it

(01:09:18):
was.
It was nuts.
But I mean, the area we were inis dirt huts and dirt road,
like there's nothing there okaythey all play soccer because all
you need is a ball.
They didn't have shoes.
They're drawing goals on walls.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
We just call it if it was close, I can see that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
It doesn't take anything, you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
You really don't even need that much space or
anything.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
No, you can goof off and play in a small area.
With basketball you've got tohave a little bit more.
You got to.
You know the goals is what ispart of it, like you, got to
have something that is.
But I mean, gosh, these kidswill play soccer and nothing.
Yeah, it doesn't matter to them.
So it's just, it's a whole loteasier.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
I mean, I've heard.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Is that why the fan bases are what they are in other
countries?

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I've heard the uh old generation talk about kicking
the can.
Maybe that's a similar andthat's all they had.
They say is they kicked the can?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, but I mean, Ithink that's part of the reason,
like, why baseball has alwaysbeen so big.
I mean, you always see the oldvideos of them playing in the
streets in new york.
It's like it was a stick.
Yeah, I, they didn't needanything.
This car parked here was firstbase.
There was nothing you needed.

(01:10:36):
I think it just depends on whatyou have, because, again,
motorsports are never going tobe that big.
It's too expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
American football.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
You've got to have way too many things to play on
that actual level.
You can goof off and playfootball in your yard.
Rugby again.
I don't know how much pushthey'll really make.
It's actually grown in America,but I can't ever see it really
push.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
I've never gotten into rugby.
Maybe I would if I watched itenough.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Maybe Again.
It's again, it's a cricket,it's another massive sport
within the world yeah, I don'teven think about that one in
america that is non-existent.
Like you don't, you don't evenknow that that's a sport.
I couldn't tell you a singlerule about cricket I can't
either I know what it is.
But then I've seen them on,like some of the ESPN stuff this

(01:11:29):
and this and I'm like what doesthat mean?

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
The only thing I've seen.
It's like baseball and thepitcher has to bounce the ball.
Yeah, that's all I know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
And then they smack it with a and they hit it with a
flat stick.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
With a paddle that your principal had back in the
60s.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Yeah, it's a big flat mat, basically, so, yeah, yeah,
so yeah, I don't, I don't knowmuch about it.
Um, and the field is like round, like it doesn't like like
baseball, where it all goes onedirection, like, yeah, this is
so, that's what we're gonna haveto do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
We're gonna have to just start checking out these
random sports we know nothingabout, and just to figure out
what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
I'm gonna be so bored so quick though just because I
like to know something I like toknow, something going in and
like'm going to have to go do abunch of research just to know
anything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
No, you just got to turn it on and be like is this
fun to watch or not?
That's what you got to do andsee if it's any good.
What are we?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
watching.
Was it ESPN the Ocho?
All the weird stuff that theyplay on there.
Sure, I'm not going to lie,I've watched cornhole on there
because like they have the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
That's such an american thing.
No, but I'm just saying like,why that's on?

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
espn makes no sense to me, like that's not a.
Is that a sport?
I don't think so.
It's a game.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Yeah, like you you play in your backyard.
It took out like that's, that'snot a sport.
You know that.
That reminds me, um, I say it'sjust, it's a game, whatever.
I've heard that term my wholelife about sports and stuff and
just like what we're talkingabout the amount of stuff that
we put into sports even as fanslike it's more than a game like
it's.
It is well, but everything,that's what but like you're

(01:13:00):
right, cornhole is doesn't feellike more than a game to me
right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
But I think when it gets into the team aspect and
you, it starts having its ownpersonality.
That's's when it's like, okay,now it's more than a game.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Like it's, it's part of life, like and again it's
weird to me to think about thisbecause I've never been this way
but people that aren't intosports at all.
I don't know a lot of thosepeople, but I know a few of them
.
I know a few like outside ofthat.
Like what if you have nointerest in any kind of sport?

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
I don't know what I would do, so like my
father-in-law is not huge onsports right, but he's a big
time musician, loves I mean, hecan play any instrument, loves
music, sings everything, sothat's kind of his thing.
So I guess everybody findssomething.
But I'm the same way.
I couldn't imagine not havingsports in my life and that's
like playing football, even atthe high school level.

(01:13:50):
I remember coaching a youthgame, a big game, and we lost
and I was like tore up and likeit was more than a game to me
coaching a youth team.
Like these people depended onme.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
I felt like and it's that way in high school.
you know, it's such a weirdthing because, like you, make
such an attachment to it you doand it you can't really explain
why you do, but you just do likeanybody that basically decides
this is my sport, yeah, why,like what?

(01:14:25):
What really drew you in?
And you can say you knowthere's this and there's this
and this, but it's all just toyou.
To you it's that, but tosomebody else it's like I don't
see that so you kind of wentthrough that in college.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
And when injury happens and something's taken
away from you, oh, it's a bigdeal.
It kills you like, because theworst thing in the world and if
somebody walked up to you andsaid, oh, it's okay, man, it's
just a sport, you'd be, like no,not like this, got throat
punched.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying at that point in time
because it's like no, like I.
You got to think about how manyyears of my life I devoted to
get to here yep.
So it's like now I've done allthat work.
I did the hard part by gettingto be on a team, you know,
because very few people even getto that level and then an

(01:15:10):
injury ruins it and it's like atthat age.
So your immediate thought iswhat was my whole life for?

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
What did I?

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
do all that work for it is it's like all those wasted
hours and that's the immediate,like negativity side of it.
You know, obviously I wouldn'tchange the you know the memories
and wouldn't change the stuffthat I learned.
And you know the memories andwouldn't change the the stuff
that I learned and you knowreally it teaches you how to
deal with certain situations.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
So I wouldn't change any of that, obviously, but it's
like, well, even me differentso I I always loved football,
played football as long as Iremember and I kind of started
dealing with a foot injury inhigh school and it just kept
getting worse and I playedthrough it and kept getting
worse, get worse and got to mysenior year and it was it was.
I had to battle through it andit like ended it for me and and

(01:15:58):
that's tough even at a highschool level, because there
you're thinking maybe I can gointo college, maybe I can this,
maybe I can that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
I think, what makes that so hard too, and because
I've obviously had plenty oftime to sit back and think about
it at this point you're notgetting to end it on your own
terms.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Yes, that's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
It's not like you got to the end of a college career,
end of a high school career,even Just like yeah, I'm either.
You know most athletes have apretty good self, pretty good
ability to recognize.
Am I actually good enough to godo something else with it, like
, can I go to the next?

(01:16:35):
Now you have a lot ofdelusional people, but my
basketball career, if I was,I've been able to finish my
college career.
I knew without a shadow of adoubt that was it for me.
I didn't have any ability to goplay professionally overseas.
I didn't have any.
Now I probably could have foundsome no name, nowhere that
couldn't have spoke a languageor made no money.
Not worth it, yeah, but I hadno ability to go play in the NBA

(01:16:57):
.
So it's, you know that, for meto be like all right, now it's
done.
But I kind of got to decide nowit's done instead of that's,
that's the big thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Just it's taken away.
I agree, because that was thesame thing that I said.
Even high school was like thiswasn't my terms, I didn't get to
walk away on my terms, and.
But even as a fan, like okay,so your thing was basketball,
mine was football.
But looking at other sports, asa fan, I still feel that way,
like you get devoted to teamsand you put money in and you go
watch your team and you're, youknow, you're up and down with
the team.
So, even as a fan, I feel likeit's not just a sport, like like
, especially in america, andlike you said, soccer is that

(01:17:38):
way.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
In other, you just get attached to it and it's,
it's, it's so much more likeit's, like you know.
Like you said, you're huge intocollege football yeah when
college season ends, it's kindof like you almost feel like a
void for that first couple weeks.
You're like that's just what Idid oh and I'm already looking
forward to next year.
I was watching for games and Iwas watching big games and I was

(01:17:59):
finding this and finding stats,and it's just very different.
And now, all of a sudden, it'slike now, what do I do with my
time?

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Well, even so, college football, yes, I mean,
I'm waiting for it, even nextyear.
I love it, just football,something about it.
Like you said, you don't knowwhat draws you to what you do,
but something about footballjust drew me there.
But now I'm even that way.
I'm getting that way withcollege basketball, especially
when the tournament hits, andI'm really into that.
I'm going to be down whenthat's done, like I'm going to
be maybe not as invested, butreally close to as invested,

(01:18:29):
even in a sport that wasn't mysport.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
That's, to me, the difference.
With college basketball youwill get the attachment, but
most people don't get thatattachment until late.
College football you kind ofhave the attachment all season,
Like it just feels verydifferent.
College basketball you'resitting back thinking, well,
they have 30 regular seasongames, you 30 plus actually I

(01:18:52):
think your team, you probablystill get pretty attached to see
.
That's the thing.
But, like with college football, we'll do it with just a big
game oh yes, we don't care, nomatter who it is if it's a one
verse two of teams that Idespise both of them, I'm still
gonna watch it.
because it's one verse twoCollege basketball most people
unless you're just really intoit, most people I'll look and

(01:19:13):
see who won.
You're not going to sit andactually watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Yeah, it's very different.
I agree with that 100%.
It just doesn't have that sameattachment, knowing that, with
football.
I didn't know if that was mebecause I love football or if
that's just you saying it.
It's different.
Now I do got to ask you abasketball question, okay,
because I saw this today and I'msure you know it?
Did Hubert Davis really sign anextension in December?

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Oh, don't get me started.
Come on, I want to hear aboutit.
Don't get me started.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
I guess, from what I read, it was something over the
summer and then he signed it inDecember.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
I saw this and it was shared from one of my buddies
who's a big Clemson fan, whorecently made the statement.
I want him to stay because nowwe have a better shot in the ACC
.
I told you I wanted him to staytoo, Unless he went to Duke and
I'm sitting there like this hasgot to be a fake account, it's
got to be a troll, it's got tobe something.
It wasn't, no, was it likethrough 20?

(01:20:12):
his 30 or something it wassupposed to end in like 20, 27
like his.
Well, that was still too longhis current.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Yeah, listen, I mean everybody.
I can't speak, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Like I read this and I was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
I was over it did he get a raise and everything with
it I'm sure he did.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Most of these guys don't sign a contract extension
without getting something.
Yeah, like the only one I canthink of in recent history is
Oklahoma State's football coachtook a pay cut.
Restructures contract extendedJust to guarantee more years
yeah, just for time.
And I'm like you don't see thattypically.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Well, I mean Hubert Davis.
If he's like this might be mylast shot and he gives me years
I can.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
So it's frustrating.
He signed a top five kid, I itwas.
I think he's like fifth kid inthe nation and everybody's like,
oh, hubert just extended hisjob and I'm like for one kid,
for one kid, and he's not even apost player he's another guard.
You don't know if he's any goodyet either.
We don't.
We don't have anything in thepost.

(01:21:07):
And so now here's the worstthing too and it's weird to say
this as a Tar Heel fan they'regoing to mess around and
potentially make the tournament.
You think they will.
They're like 20, so if they're18-11 right now, okay then maybe
their last loss was to a rankedClemson team For that.

(01:21:28):
Their last loss was to a Duketeam.
So like they're going to loseto the top three in the
conference Louisville, duke andClemson they're losing to those
guys.
Fine, carolina can lose thatlast game to Duke.
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
You think those three get indeterminate for sure,
right?

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
So those three are pretty much lost.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Like those are.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
I is showing ACC getting a minimum of three and
it's those three period.
They think ACC could get five.
I'm not sure where these othertwo are coming from, but there's
that projection, like you said,north Carolina maybe, I guess.
North Carolina.
Right now they're still givenlike a 40% chance, and so
basically, what it looks like isthey need to win out the

(01:22:11):
regular season.
Okay, you could lose to Duke,fine, but they probably need to
win at least two, maybe threerounds in the tournament.
Which would be like almostgetting you to the championship
game, so that championship gameis on Saturday, right?
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Cause there's always a big thing with SEC being on
Sunday and and I hate achampionship game being on
Sunday it doesn't make any senseto me, because then they don't
have time for that game toreally feel like it matters.
No, we've seen it in the pastwith SEC.
It does not get factored in.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
And I'm like, all right, why not just move
everything back a day?
It wouldn't be that hard.
You can move everything back aday.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Well, the SEC already starts like Wednesday, so they
have all these play-in stuff.
Well, I say it's even hardernow.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
All these conferences have 16 teams.
It's so hard.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
I mean that makes the brackets huge.
I saw again today, 13 in SECright now, with 14 being the
first, four out the 14th team.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
So that's dropped a little bit on some of the
projections.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Well, that was Joe Linardi, Don't get me started on
him too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
We can go on that.
For a while they were showingSEC with probably closer to 10.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Okay, because he has Arkansas even getting in.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
I don't see Arkansas getting in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
I don't know.
Record's getting a little bitbetter.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
They're probably getting close to North Carolina,
so currently they've got ninebeing locks and outside of that
the numbers start to get prettylow.
Okay, so it's like nine, withVanderbilt being like a
potential tenth.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
So Vanderbilt just won tonight Texas A&M.
They beat Texas A&M tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
So that again is going to help them.
Beat them by two Yep.
Yep, texas and Arkansas arecurrently in overtime, but
beating Texas doesn't doanything for you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Well, I didn't get to watch the Kentucky game because
it was on while we wererecording here, but I just saw
the score of that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
What happened there?

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
They beat Oklahoma by one at Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Oklahoma's not very good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
They're not.
Well, some haven't projected inthe tournament.
I don't know they're a reallylow chance.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
So, looking at Lunardi in his mind, go ahead
and throw 16 SEC teams in andhe'd be happy with it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
That's just kind of the way and I'm like all right,
obviously not 16.
That makes no sense.
There's going to be a bunch ofthem getting it.
Don't get me wrong to have aton.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Depending on how it goes, because again they're
beating each other up and Idon't know if that's helping or
hurting because you're having,like I just said, Vanderbilt
beat Texas A&M.
That wasn't supposed to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Yeah, I see 10, tops 12 maybe I don't know that
they'll even get 10 when itcomes into the tournament time
Post their SEC tournament.
If Vanderbilt goes out andloses a first round, they don't
make it.
I think a team like that almosthas to win at least one.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
I'm not saying they've got to go far, but I
think they've got to win one.
I don't know I still see 10getting in and we'll see how it
plays out, but I see at least 10.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
I just think it's one of those.
I think you could potentiallysee Vanderbilt, Ole Miss,
Missouri, Mississippi State alllosing the first round at NCAA
tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Possibly, but I still think they get in.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Right, but I'm just saying at that point cool, you
got in, you lost.
It's for any of these?
So back when the ACC, duke usedto do it Like oh Duke's the
championship team.
You lost to Buttonall, you lostto teams.
That's like we've never evenheard of these guys, like it
doesn't mean anything to go inand then lose first round.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Like it's just such a waste.
I mean it's still a big deal toget there.
That still means something toget there, Because, I've said,
the tournament it's a one-gamescenario I just don't like to me
.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
You got to be the top 16 of 360-something teams and
I'll tell you you had a goodseason.
Outside of that, you probablydidn't do well.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
So you're going to say you're going to tell 340
teams That'd be 26.
That's too many, 350 teamsbasically.
Pretty much yeah, their seasonsucked.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
As a whole.
Yeah, oh, yeah, okay.
I mean Well, especially whenyou start talking major programs
, you're like, oh, we've got achampionship team this year,
then you at least got to go makeit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Oh no, I'm with you there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
You can't say Now here's the thing For some of
these teams, winning five gamesis a good season, depending on
what they've done previousseasons.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
So that's all, depending on what their overall
program is I expect to see 10SEC teams in there?
Yeah, I'm not expecting 10 tomake it to Sweet 16, by no means
.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Well, when you have 10, again, there's 32
first-round games.
You've got 10 of them, so oneof them is probably going to be
playing somebody in a secondround or a third round.
I mean, it's hard to spreadthem out that way.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they're going to hit each other
I mean, it's the same way foryears.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
The big 10 had a bunch, the big 12 was getting a
bunch.
When you start getting six andseven and eight teams into the
tournament, you start gettingconference games scheduled when
you didn't really want them tobe.
So it just makes it tough.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Well, last I saw three of the SEC they have as a
one seed.
I don't know if that's going tohold.
I don't see it holding Florida,auburn, alabama, and then Duke
I think is the fourth one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
Yeah, I don't think they'll give that purely on
perception, even if it should be, I think it's just like that's
really hard to do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
It's really hard to do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Yeah, but I'm looking around going.
Who else are you going to?

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
give it to.
It's going to.
I think it just depends on howthe season ends.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Cause like even when I go, we got two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
When I go and look at like the big 10, they've got,
they've got seven, they'resaying is a lock?
The big 10, yeah, okay witheight, so they've got.
Illinois is at 93, so you'resaying potentially eight.
I see, I'm not of the big 10.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
That's half.
That's half of their conference.
I'm gonna have to go look atthat because I don't feel like
I'm seeing that many good teamsin the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
No, I mean.
Well, they only score 40 pointsa game.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
That's true.
That league is not a highscoring.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
We had a buzzer beater tonight in the Big Ten
and it was 58-55.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
I saw that it's like all right.
Well, I told you, Kentucky wonby one.
It was Right, yeah, yeah, 58,55.
I'm going to go look at some ofthese Big Ten scores now, now
that you said that I want to see.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Yeah, I mean you're just.
But that's always been aconference they don't score a
ton of points, it's slow pace.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
It's the same thing in football, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
So we said Football's changing a little bit.
Two or three podcasts ago.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Football started that way because of the weather.
We felt like a big part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Good chance, so why is basketball?

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
that way, they're indoors.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Part of it almost feels like the way they recruit.
They recruit half-courtoffenses, they don't recruit.
Run the floor, get up and down.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
It's just never been that way.
Take your time, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Well, because I feel like I can just remember
watching games of Wisconsin andthey scored a bunch by scoring
60.
You would see Iowa, which thepast few years Iowa's had some
really good teams so they wererunning the floor and scoring a
lot of points.
But here, my whole life, I justfeel like that conference it's
going to be a 50s to 50s game,because any time a football
score gets you there and you'relike, well, that's like a Big

(01:29:36):
Ten basketball game.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
I actually forgot about this.
Looking at it now, big Tenactually has 18 teams in their
conference now.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
That's right, they do have 18.
I forgot they've done that,which is mind-boggling.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
I think they're going to get to 20.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
I think them and SEC both go to 20.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
It's like why?
Because they want to be the bigdogs At some point Split off
and do your own thing.
I was going to say at somepoint You've got 40 of the best
teams.
Split off and do your own.
I think they will Like what'sthe point?
Yeah, That'd be weird though,wouldn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Well, so there's been , the SEC will probably lead it.
If it comes to football, bigTen will fall in line because
they're going to do what the SECdoes, because they want to feel
like they're on that same level, whether people say yes or no,
whatever.
Because there's been so muchcontroversy with the NCAA, like
people aren't happy with them asa governing body, like we've
seen very much so that it'stough.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
You know I'm sitting here looking at the scores and
you're right, like they're alllow scores, it's just what they
do.
But Maryland got 101 on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
A couple Sundays ago Against who Iowa Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
But Iowa scored 75.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Yeah.
There was no defense in thatgame, but when you go 100 and
then you post 55, that's verydifferent.
Yeah, I mean looking at a lotof these conferences, what
they're projecting in, it's kindof sad.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
ACC used to be fighting for nine.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
They got three, they're showing three locks and
no team above 60%.
As a fourth, it's like that'ssad for a conference.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
We're getting a lot supposedly, supposedly from Big
Ten and SEC.
Are we going to get a lot ofthese small schools in there
this?

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
year I think you'll see a lot more because a lot of
those teams are like I said, nilhas spread the talent.
Just before the NIL I think wesaw especially in basketball,
guys were more willing to gosomewhere because basketball is
one and done so if you're reallythat good, it's kind of like I
can go somewhere close to home,I can go somewhere decent, show

(01:31:38):
out and then go somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Yeah, you can for sure go to a small basketball
school.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
Basketball they're much less likely to sit behind
somebody than football.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Yes, but you can still have a chance to make the
tournament and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Oh, absolutely, if you go to a small football
school.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
You're just done.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
No you're kind of just wasting your time in a way.
I mean, I hate to say it thatway, but it's just you don't
have the same ability.
Like you said, basketball D1,there's no split tournaments
like football does, where youhave the FBS and FCS.
You don't have that.
It's 300 and some odd DivisionI teams fighting for tournament

(01:32:14):
spots.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Yeah, I want to say there's like 366 or 365.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
But it's always changing because teams are
always moving up.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Teams are coming in and out, some are moving down.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
It's always hard to keep track of.
Yeah, I mean gosh, we're righthere at March Madness, it's
coming up soon.
I mean we're gosh, we're righthere at March Madness, I mean
it's, it's coming up soon.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Like I said, we got conference tournaments starting
next couple of weeks, I want tosay around the first of the
month, ain't it so?

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
there's, I know, like for Carolina they've got three
games left.
So you're looking at, I think,two weeks before the tournament,
for some of the tournamentsstart Now.
Some of the conferencetournaments and the smaller
conferences start Within thenext few days, like they're
early.
Yeah, they always do that,which is weird when all those
start.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
That's when I kind of start watching About all
basketball, like I still keep upwith it now.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
See, I'm going throughout the year though
Throwing a basketball game andI'll sit there and watch it yeah
.
I just it's easy for me to getinto.
Well, I can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
But right now, right now there's been so much other
sports going on, kind ofbleeding in with the.
You know we talked aboutcollege football.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
We have an oversaturation.
Yeah yeah, it's easy to getstuck in like I don't know what
to watch because there's so manyoptions.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
There was talk at one point, some people pushing to
move the college basketballseason kind of more to a dead
period and I guess maybe startit I guess after the first year
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
I don't know exactly what they was looking at there.
Um, it's hard to me becauseit's like I want, I feel like
college and pro should behappening at the same time,
because it's like, all right,they're gonna leave here and
then they're gonna go here, likeit's just it would feel weird,
to feel like basketball seasonis now spread across the year
because it's going to interferewith something else.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
I guess the NBA lasts longer, so it gets its moment
to shine later.
It does the college basketballnever gets.
They're just in the middle.
I guess they do a little bitNFL's done Maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
March Madness doesn't compete with anybody.
That's the one thing about it.
The way they have theirtournament, that tournament
doesn't really compete withanybody.
That's the one thing about it,the way they have their
tournament, that tournamentdoesn't really compete with
anybody else no, that's kind ofwhen everybody gets their
attention on it.
What makes it so hard iscollege is less than NBA 82
games.
College, if you go undefeated,would be like right at 40 or

(01:34:25):
just shy 36, somewhere in thatrange, 38, I can't remember at
this point.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
To go undefeated.
Yeah, you'd be 40.
Well, it'd been 40.
I guess it depends on some ofthose.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
I would say it depends on some of your early
season stuff, how many if?

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
you play a small tournament how many.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
You'd play less games than if you were at the Maui.
So some of that's determinedthere.
But yeah, so about 40.
Around is pretty much thatnumber around 40, so it's half
that that length.
They mean more throughout theseason.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
I feel like all all 40 matter a little bit more than
than the nba.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
Obviously, yeah, you're not, you can't win a ball
.
Yeah, but you also just feellike those early games a lot of
people watch and then all of asudden, when you're playing
nobody's teams, you're like Ididn't even even know that was a
real team.
Most people are just checkingout.
It's not worth watching for alot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
I don't know that.
It's college basketball.
I want to see there, but I'dlove to see some sports in that
Lowell in the summertime wherethere's not a lot going on.
I could use something there.
Now I don't know how you woulddo basketball there.
It's called baseball, yeah, butit's like the only thing.
You still need something elsegoing on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
I mean you don't have anything else going on in other
sports.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
What is it?
160-some games?

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
It's 162.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
No but, like we said, fall, you've got college
football overlapping collegebasketball and overlapping NFL
and overlapping NBA At the veryend.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
but at the beginning of baseball, you still have NBA.
At the end of baseball, you'realready into college football,
because postseason's October, itlasts too long.
It's, it's long, but like.
What I'm saying, though, islike you still, it's kind of
like every other sport you have.
You have overlapping.
You have the one major sport,then you get overlapping again,

(01:36:12):
like with every one of them.
They all do it.
Nfl does it with NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
No, no NFL does it with baseball, but there are
certain times where you haveseveral going on at once, and in
the summer you only have one.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
That's the only thing I'd like to see, but you'll get
to a point like you're onlygoing to have NBA, like for a
very short, brief period.
It's only going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
Or like post-college football.
This is the first year it'sbeen different, it's been longer
, but you only have NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
You don't get the mixture.
Speaking of Major LeagueBaseball, because I know we're
both Braves fans they finallyhave a winning record this
season, Did you see that?

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
Well, it's spring training, so it's like who cares
?
They lost their first two andthen they won their last three.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
They're on a hot streak right now, that's for me.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
I like some spring training baseball.
I'll watch some of it, but yourwin-loss record it doesn't
matter.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
I don't know what their win-loss record is.
They're all exhibitions.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
They keep the stats because it's all part of helps
them with everything but it itdoesn't matter, like, is it
helping you during the season?
No, no, you're gonna.
You're gonna pitch guys that maynever even make it to the pros
yeah like some of these guys,may not make it at double a, so
it's just, it's a little bithard there.
But no, I am excited forbaseball season, though it's,
baseball has made a big, bigsurge the past few years of

(01:37:30):
really trying to get back togrowth.
I think you're seeing a lot offans come back to it because
there for a while it had gottenstale, but it was hard when they
were pushing this whole.
We are now post steroid erawhere everything's clean,
everything's perfect, butsomehow we're pitching faster
and we're hitting more home runsand I'm like let's think about

(01:37:52):
that, like that's the workoutprogram like to me, it's again
put roger clemens in the hall offame.
Put barry bonds in the hall offame.
Put the I don't care like forbarry bonds, he is the greatest
hitter that ever lived.
Like it's hard to argue itbecause they're like well, he
was on steroids.
Steroids didn't swing the batfor you.
Like he still had to have thevision he still had to have the

(01:38:15):
ball.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
But how many other guys could have been as good if
they were on.
Sir like had the power he had?
Because that's what he had waspower.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
A lot of guys steroids, doesn't always just do
power, like for a lot of thoseguys, like some of these
pitchers, it wasn't for thestrength, it was for longevity,
it was for there's so manydifferent things like that
steroids in itself is not justgoing to make you this big,
strong person.
Sometimes it's just to helprecovery.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Sometimes, like it's, it's very different I enjoy
watching baseball, but the gameskind of get long and I
sometimes find myself the samefeeling you say about nascar
like it's a pitch to strike.
Let'scar.
Like it's a pitch, it's astrike, let's wait a couple
seconds.
It's a pitch, it's a ball, andit just feels like like just so
repetitive.
And then finally you get a hitoh, foul ball.
And we go, and so while it'sone of those, I can sit back and

(01:39:00):
just kind of relax and watch.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
What's different about it, though, is like, as
you get into baseball andbaseball is another one that
you've you've got more middleground fans in baseball, but
when you really get into thenitty-gritty of like everything
is a puzzle for these guys likeyou get up there and it's like
here here's my sequence.
Well, no, he's seeing this.
I've got to change it up or I'msticking my sequence.
I'm you know how, where I'mpitching, what lane that ball
looks like it's falling into,like all these different things.

(01:39:32):
So it's very, very different.
And then now the whole mindgames of pitch clock and whether
that's good or bad for baseball.
Whatever.
I mean, did it need to speed upsome?
Yes, I just don't know ifthat's necessarily the best way
to take it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Not really sure yeah, I don't, but it didn't need to
speed up, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
It's.
It's so weird Cause baseballhas all these different like
eras of.
You had your steroid era.
You had your your illegalsubstance era, were there for a
while.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
There was no such thing.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
They were putting whatever the crap they wanted on
these and like spin numberswere ridiculous, break was
ridiculous, and then 2021, theydo away with it and it's all of
a sudden now we're seeing morehome runs, we're seeing the
which in every sport.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
That's what they want right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
They want more runs, they want more of this.
So I don't know that we'regoing to see that across the
board Still, with your big guys,you're still going to see it
like crazy.
But pitchers are just.
They're better than they'veever been.
The pitchers are unbelievablenow.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
I've made the comment before, like with NASCAR and
it's a problem I have with golftoo but I want to see the whole
picture.
I need to start from thebeginning and see it all.
For whatever reason, baseballisn't one of those.
I have to do that.
I can come into the baseballgame, I can be checked out
through part of it working,talking, whatever and catch the
highlights and it.
And it's weird because I'vebeen coaching softball for a

(01:40:47):
while with my daughter coachingtravel ball now and maybe I'm a
little biased because of that.
But I would prefer to watch acollege softball game than a
major league baseball game.
Oh, absolutely not.
I think I'd even rather acollege baseball game more than
a major league.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
Oh gosh, no, College baseball is not very good right
now.
I would prefer to watch itCollege baseball is subpar
pitching with like three guysthat can actually hit yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
To me it's more fun.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
The teams are just not good.
And there's again.
You have so many.
There are more college baseballteams than there are.
Do you want to call itbasketball?
I mean like it's anunbelievable amount that's
across the board.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
For me, with NFL, nba , major League Baseball, I would
much prefer to watch thecollege versions than the Major
League versions.
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
I definitely wouldn't with baseball.
Baseball is so much morepolished when you get there Like
it's quality.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
But that takes away from me.
No see, like in college likefootball, like it's different.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
College basketball it's different.
Like, yes, a lot of those guysare never going to make it pro,
but it's still a very, very highlevel College baseball.
I can remember watching a TexasA&M game, which is hilarious
because they will count out howmany balls the guy threw 17
straight balls.
You're never going to see that.
That's interesting to me.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
That just means you're not any good, that's okay
, but it's interesting, that'snot fun.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
That just means you're not any good, that's okay
, but it's interesting, that'snot fun.
That just makes the game evenlonger and more drawn out when
baseball can be stale, if you'regoing into things like that, so
baseball for sure is one ofthose.
Give me the pros.
I'd much rather watch thatBaseball also, though all year

(01:42:28):
those guys stay a little bitmore locked in.
They don't.
I don't feel like they take off.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
They have to.
They're playing forever.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
No, but I'm saying, like NBA, those guys don't lock
in until the last two weeks,like they don't really give it
everything Baseball, like theycare about their career stats
differently.
They care about, you know, thisgame in July, matters come
October, because you know it's adivisional game and I need that
one game on Like it's justdifferent.

(01:42:56):
They just have a pride in it.
Very different than NBA or evenNFL, because NFL those guys
lose a game.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
It's like it doesn't mean anything Major League
Baseball.
To me it it's kind of like wesaid with PGA it needs some
excitement, it needs somethingto get your attention Again,
because it can get very boringat times.
Now don't get me wrong, there'ssome games with some hits going
on and some things going on andalso I feel like it depends on
the team.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
I feel for anybody that is a Chicago White Sox fan,
you guys have already missedthe next 10 playoffs.
Like y'all are awful, likethere's nothing that team can do
without just going to spend afortune.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
There's nothing they can do.
Maybe they do what you saidwith all the Japanese guys they
just start paying them Deferredpayments.
Yeah, deferred payments.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
Listen, I'll give you $10 billion 30 years from now.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
I just need you to come play and win some ballgames
.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
I don't know what they're going to do.
Baseball's even come outrecently and said they're going
to do and you know, baseball haseven come out recently and said
they're doing what's within therules, so we're not going to
say anything about it, which Iagree, like there's no sense in
me making a comment about it ifit's currently within the rules.
If it was something wrong, thenyeah, you comment.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
But as a league, no, they need to fix the rule,
though, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
I think so Probably I'm not a big fan of Baseball is
doing what they should do.
What if?

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
every team just started doing that with every
player.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Then they would change it.
It's going to take a biggersample size.
Right now we've got like fiveon one team.
So I mean it's been happeningbecause even Chris Sale with the
Braves, he was on a deferredcontract.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
But if it works, you're going to start seeing
more and more teams try it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
I think it's going to depend too on a lot of these
guys coming from Japan, becausethey're already like hey, here's
the next one for next year andhere's the next three for the
year after.
So if you start getting it likethat because, like we said,
with the Japan teams, they cango talk to managers and can give
the teams money, but can't talkto that guy and give him that
money.
So it's like well, if we giveyou a million dollars and they

(01:44:49):
only give you $500, you're goingto push us more because we gave
you more money.
So it's like you know you gotto touch on some of those things
, but again, that's all thestuff that happens in every
sport.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
All the politics behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
College football.
These guys they enter thetransfer portal.
They already have decided wherethey're going because they
wouldn't have known there wasinterest if they weren't already
talking to these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Well see, it's supposed to be.
Get in the portal to see ifthere's interest.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
No, they're getting in the portal just so they can
say I'm in the portal, now,here's where I'm going.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
I'd be curious and again, like Power 5, the little
schools, I'm sure it happens howmany kids get in the portal and
go back to the team?
And I know it happens, someI've seen it a couple times, but
it's rare.
It's rare.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
Especially, like you said, the Power 5.
It's maybe technically Power 4now, because football there's
not really a Pac-12 anymore.
But yeah, I don't feel like yousee it often.
We did see it, Didn't that kidfrom Florida?
He did it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Well, I'm sure in some instances you get in there
to say I'm leaving and then theschool kind of, hey, we'll match
that offer.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
We'll whatever, just stay here.
So that probably happenssometimes too.
That's the thing, Like a Beckfrom Georgia less than 24 hours
after he's already signed.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Oh, he already knew.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
It's like all right, y'all have been talking for a
long time.
Why is that okay?
Why are we just okay?

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
with.
See, I don't have a problemwith it.
Now, it's a rule that you'rebreaking, so if it's a rule, you
should have a punishment forthe rule.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
But that's my issue with it.
Like, if we've got the rule,use it Like it's the way it's
supposed to be, then it shouldbe.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
I told you a while back, rules are made to be
broken and we found out.

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
You're the rule follower do whatever we want.
That's what ultimately is likewe just don't care, we're gonna
do it I wish we just get rid ofthe rule.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
In my opinion, I don't think we need that rule.
Let them go where they want.
Who cares it's?
It's all about money.
Really.
It's been about money for years.
Let's stop acting like it isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
let's just let them do it, because then all of a
sudden you're gonna start havingguys do it week four.
They're gonna say, well, Idon't want to be here anymore,
I'm going here.
That ruins, that, I'm okay withyou doing it Now you can't play
that year if you do it.
I think there should be roomfor that.
Well, why not get rid of thatrule?
Well, because there is a thing.
Get rid of all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
No, because you need rules.
What I'm saying is, I can'timagine a coach is of go team to
team and stuff.
Let the players do that.
I'm good with that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
It's different, though.
Coach is under contract, oh no,I agree, it's a very different
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
We've talked about that we need contracts.
I want contracts, but when youget contracts, let them go where
they want.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
Well, if it's within a contract, there's nothing they
can do.
Willing to pay out a contractand then sign you on a new one,
like what can you do?
Yeah, legally you have nooptions.
Yep, so like that's.
That's where coaching isdifferent, because it's you know
, I've got this written in mycontract.
I have this many years.
This is the money.
Obviously, if I leave early, Idon't get that money a lot of

(01:47:43):
buyouts they're paying me.
They're gonna pay me 10 timesthat to go here.
So why would I?
Why would I care?

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
yeah, buyouts on players contracts would stop a
lot of it, because the team wascan't say I'll give you so much
money plus pay this.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
But I do think, though, if we go to contracts,
the the amount of money is goingto go way down yeah, I do too
because?
Because then, like you're goingto have this, the first guy
that signs that really big one.
And then he's like oh, I wantto transfer crap.
It's six million dollars for meto get out of this contract.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Like I'm, I can't do it, I won't have anything yeah,
I mean you're gonna ask kids tomake a decision.
Do you want the money?
And I did see this.

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
Um gilbert arenas, on his podcast, made the comment
and it makes a ton of sense nilis not for the stars.
Like you sit there and say,well, no, they're gonna get more
money to get more money.
It's like, well, hang on.
It's not truly for the starsCause like, okay, they're going
to make 4 million in college.
A true star is going to make 60.

(01:48:37):
They're going to win more, soit's like okay that's not much
money for them, but the guy thatis getting a big deal to him
Because that's the end of hiscareer.
whatever sport it is, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
That doesn't still okay.
It's not going to take a trueNBA star, but it still takes a
decent college player to get$100,000, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
I think some of these numbers we're seeing are crazy.
I don't know about $100,000,because I think any of these big
D1 guys, whether they have propotential or not, are getting a
decent amount, because they'rethrowing around millions for one
player Like you could do 10 ofthose guys for $100,000.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
What do you think a second string on a decent
college football team is getting?

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
Second string not much, because they're not
waiting behind the guys anymore,like your second string.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
I think the talent is dropping.
I think your second string nowis your old third not waiting
behind the guys anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
Like your second string, I think the talent is
they're leaving on.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
So I think your, your second string now is your old
third string, because the guysare like I'll go get money
somewhere else.
Like what, what's the?

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
point like I mean because even you're seeing like
teams like unlv was gettingthese pretty solid football
players on promises of money andthey're like, no, we're leaving
because you didn't pay it.
So those guys probably weresecond string or first string on
some other teams maybe not avery good team so they're like,
oh, let's go somewhere better.
But then you get into secondand third string.

(01:49:58):
Now I don't think it's the samesecond and third string that it
used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
Yeah, I think now you've dropped it, they're all
leaving.
Yeah, well, that's probably whyyou're seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
Nobody wants to sit behind anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
It's all about.
I want it now you see it, whensomebody goes down, injuries
Right.
You see the backhand come inand it's a drop.
There's a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
I feel like the only thing we're not really super
seeing that in is quarterback,because it's such a prominent
position.
On linemen I think wedefinitely see it.
You see a drop in it for themost part.
But on quarterback you're notnecessarily seeing it because
they're not typically same yearguy, like if it's like you've
got a senior and you've got afreshman, that freshman knows
I'm coming in for a year, I'vegot three years.
That's typical.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Like that's fairly common, or they're just buying
another quarterback to.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
Which is happening.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
You're having a junior senior quarterback every
year because you're just goingto be with them less.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
But you're seeing this junior quarterback get hurt
.
The sophomore comes in and hejust is a stud.
Well, he just lost his job.
That guy's transferring, he'snot staying.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
There's no loyalty to well they brought me in.
I'm loyal to this coach.
No, you are loyal to playingCoaches.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
it drove me nuts.
Coaches would preach on thatloyalty and kids transferring
and they would up and leave in adrop of a hat for the right
money, or that's no differentthan than the real world.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
Like business, yeah, like all these.
All these companies are likeyou need to be loyal to us, you
need to be willing to do theextra mile.
Then you need to pay me more,like, like I don't have loyalty
to your business.
Why would?

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
I you're you're not loyal to me, why do I need to be
that's?

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
what is now turning into sports, like they're really
seeing it as a business they'retreating it as a business.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
That's what it's been .

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
That's what's going to happen, yeah so it wasn't 30
years ago, not to the extent Iby no means I'm not saying what
you're saying, but it was forcoaches it's always been around
money.
Everything is always going to beabout money, because if you
don't make money, you can't keepit going.
Even for coaches, though, theyweren't making the money then
that they're making now, so it'sjust way to a lesser degree.

(01:51:56):
So it's a little easier topreach.
You know, I'm not going to take$10,000 to go to this other
place.
I'm happy here.
Like it's not a big enough potto really make a difference If
they're going to pay me fivemillion more.
Yeah, these guys are leaving ina heartbeat.
See you later, what's the point?
But they don't have.
So the only time you're reallyseeing loyalty it's like.
No, my dream was to coach myalma mater, like I went here,

(01:52:17):
graduated here.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
That's where you get.
If I was a college coach andathletic whoever and say, hey, I
need this for this, kid like no, we just can't do it.
I'm gonna kid say, hey, man, Iwish you best.
Like I would take it too.
Yeah, like, if that's you knowI can't do it, they won't.
Let me match it here.
Best of luck to you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
I just don't feel like I would do it.
In a lot of spots.
I feel like these guys are justlike yep, they're offering
money let's go throwing moneyaround everywhere they're just,
they're throwing a ton of it.
I mean just millions.
I mean Miami paid what?
Four for Beck.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Doesn't that show kind of what's been going on
behind the scenes for years?
Like as soon as we have NAL,all of a sudden there's millions
of dollars everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
Oh yeah, it's always been there.
It's the same thing that's beenhappening.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
You just now know it.
It ain't like we had to come upwith this money.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
I feel like before we were maybe seeing it more in,
more than they were actuallygetting the cash in hand.
I think they were still gettingsome of that, obviously, but I
think it's easier to.
All of a sudden your parentshave a new house and all of a
sudden there's things behind thescenes where now it's directly
going to the kid because it'sallowed.
I feel like that's really theonly difference we're seeing.

(01:53:24):
It's harder for the generalpublic to see.
Hey, the entire country nowknows your mom got a new house,
your aunt got a new car, youruncles are all doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
Most people don't even know them.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Where now it's like all right, we're seeing, you
just got paid millions.
Yeah, I mean, it's easier tosee it now.
I think they just did it adifferent way before.

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
I'm still okay with it, though we need some changes.
But pay them, Pay them all.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Yeah, I just think it just needs to be done in a way
that makes sense, because, likeright now for a lot of this,
these collectives, I'm like itcan't last, because how do you
get that money back?
They're not doing anything foryou to really get that back.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
We got to this point because the NCAA kept holding on
to this.
No, we're not professionals.
No, you're not professionals.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
Well, the NCAA is its own issue.
They are not a good governingbody.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
And then it got into government who basically said,
no, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
These are employees, you've got to pay them.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
And if the NCAA would have done it right to begin
with.
They could have set all this upthe right way.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
The NCAA makes billions off these teams.
I mean billions To do nothing.
I mean like they're a governingbody.
I mean it's like getting richto be in government.
It makes no sense.
Like, that's not what thatposition was designed to be, but
that's what's happening, soit's just very questionable.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
You shouldn't get into that kind of job.
Let's bring Elon Musk's teamover to college sports and let
them take care of stuff.
Hey, can you go check out theNCAA?

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
We have a lot of wasted spending there too.

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
Boy, that'd be a mess , wouldn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
Yeah, I think he's going to be too busy and
everybody complaining to themnow he's got a terrible budget.
I feel like you might have morecomplaints if he did it in that
.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
In sports.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
Yeah, I don't know.
The reason I say that isbecause right now you're seeing
kind of complaints on one sideof the aisle, whereas there
you're going to be hearing itfrom fan bases.
Because you know good and well,the ncaa is giving more money
to certain teams than others.
So now and all of a sudden,like no, you're not getting that

(01:55:39):
extra 20 million, those fanbases are gonna be like hang on
we don't mind getting that extra20 million.

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
Well, if you're getting extra money, leave us
alone.

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
Yeah where that's kind of like what's happening
now.
It's like you shouldn't beallowed to do that because
you're taking my money, so Idon't know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
It's just everybody wants it to be fair until their
share gets cut yeah yeah, it'slike wait a minute, we should
take more of david's money.

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
So we're going to take more of david and tyler's
money.
That's not I said.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
No, that's not what.

Speaker 1 (01:56:09):
I wanted no, like it's all about let's take
somebody else's something, butdon't do mine.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
It wouldn't take them long to take my money.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
Oh no, I mean, you could take that.
In what 30 minutes you couldempty everything?

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
you got, it wouldn't be that hard.
It's a very different situation.
It's going to be a whole lotlonger to come up with what I
got than it did take them totake it away.
I can tell you that, absolutelyno.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
I don't doubt that one bit.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
No, but you know what ?
We're starting to have a commontheme here where we hit a lot
of sports.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
We're all over the place, almost a little more than
usual, but yeah, I thinkthere's.
So obviously we've said it herethe past few weeks there aren't
as many important thingshappening right now Like some of
these, for some of these teamsthat are floating around that
middle of the top 25, you get aloss, you get a win, like you're

(01:57:04):
kind of floating in the samespot.
It's not a huge issue.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
It don't even matter right now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
It's only really important for those top three
and four 're like, hey, youcan't be a number one if you've
lost five games, six games,seven, whatever the number is
gonna be this year.
Like you've got to be in thattwo to three to four lost teams.
So like those are the importantones.
But everybody else is kind oflike eh, so if something big
isn't happening with those, youdon't really have a ton going

(01:57:28):
with it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
So if something big isn't happening with those, you
don't really have a ton goingwith it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
No, Even then looking like you don't have a major
golf tournament until theMasters in April.
There's not a huge push rightnow until we get to tournaments.
That's where our next big thingis.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Well, I'm excited too because we've talked about, as
we're getting over weather,we're going to start taking our
show out on site, kind of recordon site, different places.
So I think that'll be reallyfun because I'm curious to
interact with people as long asit's warm.

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
I'm so tired of this cold.
I'm ready Because we're gettingwarm days and really cold
nights and I'm already over thatthat part.
I'm like I'm just ready for thewarm yeah, it's not gonna stay
yet I'm with you because, no, westill we still got probably
another month, maybe a hairlonger, before we start really
seeing the warm nights, becauseI mean march, march,
historically, like in our minds.

(01:58:24):
We're like, oh, it's time forit to get warm.
It's like, no, especiallyaround here.
We've had as much snow aroundhere in march as we have in
december, so oh, we have.

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
Yeah, there's still plenty of potential, which I'm
not, but we started the podcast,you know, in the winter and so
I'm I'm excited to get out, uh,amongst them and the people, and
well, I think we'll.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
I think we'll have a lot more personal stuff to
discuss too as we get intowarmth, cause we're we ourselves
are just doing more like rightnow, like we're just not doing
nearly as much stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
I my life right now is a softball.
Here it feels like I mean thatgoing again.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
I'm doing all the stuff at the range and hanging
out with the family, Likethere's just you're not doing
like not even like taking familyon trips or like you're not
doing that kind of stuff yetbecause it's just, it's not
really time for it yet.
So as we get normal weather andwe, we have some more
experiences and stuff to talkabout, um, but that's one of
those things like, as we get tothat, obviously we've said you

(01:59:23):
know we're in western northcarolina.
If anybody listening has likesuggestions like, oh you should
go try this golf course, thisrestaurant, this hotel, this
whatever, yeah, let us know.
If you have questions, like wewe'd love to try out some of the
stuff that you guys like, or or, at the same time, like we've
said before, ask us questionswe'll we'll absolutely talk

(01:59:46):
about on the podcast or at leastconverse with you on social
media, like we have a lot of funwith that stuff.
So we're looking forward to toeverything and we've obviously
seen the growth of the show aswe've gone over these past
couple of months, which has beena lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
It's been continuing to grow, yeah, and I appreciate
everybody for that we're justlooking forward to seeing where
else it goes.

Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
I mean again, else it goes.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
I mean again it's been winter for everybody.
Like everything is slow in thewinter, like really looking
forward to the the change ofpace and the the boom of that
spring and summertime.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
Yep, I'm with you.
Yeah, so bring on the warmweather, get rid of the cold.
I still blame that stupidgroundhog.

Speaker 2 (02:00:26):
He's he's the cause of this you know, I don't even
know what happened with thegroundhog he saw a shadow.

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
Six more weeks I'm more weeks.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
I don't know what that means, but I just.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
It always makes me think of groundhog day.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
The movie fantastic I love that movie I love that
movie.

Speaker 1 (02:00:40):
I need to go watch that again, just because I
haven't in so many years, that'sit's so funny.

Speaker 2 (02:00:43):
um, we talked about the sports movies and randomly
someone I was around the otherday brought up varsityity Blues.
I was like that's so funny, wejust brought that up.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
Well after, we talked about it you know, because all
of our phones listen so much.
I get clips of Remember theTitans on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
Are you ready to watch it now, as?

Speaker 1 (02:01:01):
you scroll through, it's like oh, reels you may like
, and it's like I'm looking atCoach Boone and I'm like I've
not searched this coach boone,and I'm like I've not searched
this, so like where?

Speaker 2 (02:01:10):
did this come from?

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
and yeah, I see this and I'm like all right now I
gotta watch it.
Everything's listening like Iwant, but I love that movie.
Like remember, the titans isone of the best sports it is so
like it's hard not to watch it.
So, yeah, I want.
I now do want to go watch it,but it's just finding time to go
sit down and watch movie.
That's the hard part.

Speaker 2 (02:01:25):
Who's got that time anymore?

Speaker 1 (02:01:27):
I put it it on the background.
I've seen that movie enough Icould easily do it.
I can't do that I could withcertain things If I've seen it
enough.
That's one of those.
I've seen a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
I can't do that with TV shows or anything.
I'm just I gotta.
My wife gets mad at me becauseI literally have to hear every
word in a show.
I'm like what?

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
did he say Let, I'm like.
What did he?

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
say Let me rewind that real quick.

Speaker 1 (02:01:47):
I can't hear half the stuff that's going around the
world anyway, so I'm not goingto hear every word.
That's true, I just kind ofmake do with what I got.

Speaker 2 (02:01:54):
You just kind of piece stuff together.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
Yeah, I've done that for a long time.

Speaker 2 (02:01:59):
A lot of stuff starting to make sense.

Speaker 1 (02:02:00):
Yeah, I mean a lot of conversations.
It's the.
I really can't hear you so it'sa smile and nod, or I'm piecing
together every third word andkind of like maybe.

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
It just depends.

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
But I am looking forward to, like I said, get
back out on the golf course andjust the fun with it.
Not even just like the golf,but we always have a blast just
going to do all that stuff andthe guys we go play with.

Speaker 2 (02:02:29):
Well, with that, I'll say come out to 4U Golf because
the weather's coming backaround.

Speaker 1 (02:02:33):
Yeah it's been busy.
Come enjoy the top tracer, comehit off.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
We got grass you can hit off of A lot of rangers.
Don't have that right now.

Speaker 1 (02:02:40):
I had one of our guys , ron.
I saw him this morning and hesaid I was here two days ago in
the morning.
He said you had four guys fromhendersville.
Come over, because there'snowhere to hit off grass over
there I was like huh, I was likeyeah, we've seen that I said I
haven't seen him in a while andI'm sure I'll see him when he

(02:03:02):
gets back warm.
But we've got a couple fromspartanburg that are like that's
pretty good trip.
There is no range.
That has both options.
He's like we've got one of theother.
He said one of the ranges thathas grass like it's awful.
So they're like we come up herebecause it's you know they make
a once a week trip and they'llstay for like three hours.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
They're there a long time that's I mean, uh, for you
golf.
Obviously we, we own it, butwe've had some people that's
helped in different things.
Oh, absolutely, it's done areally good job of trying to
bring all the pieces togetherfor everybody.
It's not just for the golfer,it's not just for entertainment,
it's everything all in one.
Come enjoy, come have fun.

Speaker 1 (02:03:43):
No, and I think if you've been there before, if
you've looked us up, even seenanything about us, a lot's going
to change this year.
There's gonna be a lot of stuffhappen this year that you're
gonna really see.
It really is for all parties,not just the golfer.
It's gonna be.
It's gonna be way moreentertainment, way more on the

(02:04:03):
fun side, but it's also going togive a better atmosphere and an
easier ability to comeyear-round for the golfer.
Yeah, like we're gonna see alittle bit of everything and I
can't say enough family friendlyoh my gosh bring your kids,
bring your whole family out,enjoy it we had a message a
while back that they were like,hey, is there an age limit?

(02:04:23):
And I'm like I don't even knowwhat, like, what do I say to
that?
Because no, like, absolutelynot.
I mean my, my three-year-oldwas there today hitting.
Yeah, like he shows up and he'slike, daddy, I want to hit, I'm
like sure, son, you know man,that's your own heart there.

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
Like I'm all for it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:37):
Like get him into it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:38):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Bring the whole family and, ofcourse, psychotic, crazy, gonna
bite everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:04:47):
Dog, but yeah, we have a lot of dogs come out
we're gonna have to have a dognight we've talked about it, we
just haven't well it.
So we hit the storm and we hitwinter.
When we were discussing it.
So it's like well, we gottawait till spring, but we're
right here at it.
So we got a bunch of stuffplanned um already planning our
customer appreciation slashanniversary event that'll be
coming um sometime around june.

(02:05:09):
So look forward to that stufftoo.
But we're close.
We're close to the warm weather.

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
This last little bit always feels like it drags on
yeah, and I say the same thingwith for you, golf, and I say it
with not amused.
If, if you listen to us, yousee us out of the range, come
say hi, come talk to us.
We like talking to ourcustomers and everybody really,
I mean especially tyler.
If you come talk to Tyler,you're not going to work for a
while.

Speaker 1 (02:05:30):
Yeah, I was going to say, come talk to me, it'll get
me out of something else I'vegot to do yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:05:35):
I'll gladly.
That's when I'm working onsomething Like where did Tyler
go?
And he's over there talkingOkay.

Speaker 1 (02:05:40):
Yeah, but half the time you don't want to stop,
you'd much rather just go.

Speaker 2 (02:05:42):
We've established that on this podcast when I'm in
.
I got to be in it, I got to getdone.
I got to see the whole picture.
I got to, you know, but no, Ilove talking to people too.

Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
I don't mind it, you meet some interesting people.
Oh, we've met some interestingpeople, gosh.
We could spend a topic just onthat, on people we met out there
.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
Next topic, because we already had the Louisville
thing.
We both just said that word,completely different.
I'm not going to get into ittonight because it's already
late.
What word was it?
I don't remember.
I said interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:06:24):
Interesting, yeah, interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:06:27):
You said interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
It's the same word.
It's just enunciation, is it?
I don't know, it's justenunciation it's not.

Speaker 2 (02:06:33):
You tried to tell me, louisville, there's no
pronunciation difference there,that's just enunciation.

Speaker 1 (02:06:38):
That's a little different.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
Gosh pronunciation enunciation.
Okay, it's time to go to bed.

Speaker 1 (02:06:42):
I got to get him a dictionary and a thesaurus, so,
but thanks everybody for beinghere with us.
We've, we've had a blast.
We we're just going to keepcontinuing, keep keep growing
and having fun with witheverything we're doing.
So thanks for being along withthe ride and hope to see you
soon.
Yep, Thanks everybody.

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