Resolutions, Rivalries, and PB&J Revelry

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome back everybody to the Anatomy Podcast
.
I just want to get this outhere because I feel like I
forget every single week.
We are proudly sponsored by 4UGolf.
If David has to get on to meone more time about that, he
might fire me, and I'd like tokeep my job.
So, that being said, I want toput that out there to start, and
I know he's already smiling atme, so I know I've done well

(00:45):
this week.
I'm thinking, yes, you got it, Iknow.
Finally, I put that in thereand I tried to get it in early,
so I knew that we were on theright path.
Yeah, I'm always wondering ishe going to say what he's
supposed to say?
Is he going to leave?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
something out.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Typically, I know there's our friend, it's the
start of the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I know we're a little later tonight than normal we
are.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
But again, thank you guys for joining us.
Glad to have you back.
We're excited.
We've got plenty to talk aboutthis week.
There's a lot going on ineverything Stuff that happened
from last week's podcast thatwe're finding out more
information.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
We've got some follow-ups on lots of stuff.
College, on lots of stuff.
College football happening yeah, peanut butter and jelly, just
that.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I mean, we stuck on that for a while last week and
we've got more.
We got a little bit more onthat this week.
Sorry if you're not interested,but we have to bring it up.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
So may have a new little segment coming up here
shortly, so hang in for that.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
We do.
Yeah, we're going to debut anew segment that will end up
being being a weekly, weeklytopic if it goes good if it goes
well, if not, brian, you just,you just nix that out yeah we'll
be good to go.
But again, thanks for joining us.
Again.
We, uh, are continuing to enjoythe support from everybody.
You know the texts, the peoplethat come up are like hey, like

(01:57):
it's getting better, like Idon't know how to take that
sometimes because I'm like, uh,that means it was bad, I don't
know.
But no, we're having a lot offun with it and, you know, super
excited for you guys to to bealong with the journey.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Um, well, I've got a quick question I just want to
jump in with a question here foryou, roll with it.
Um, because, because I learnedabout this I don't know a while
back, a few days ago, whateverit is.
Um, apparently the secondfriday of january is called
quitter's and it's the day thatmost people quit their New
Year's resolution.
Did we just pass that?
That was last Friday, last.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Friday yes so.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'm curious.
Any New Year's resolutions thatyou already said nope, I'm out,
it's Quitter's Day.
Because I feel like Quitter'sDay.
When you call it Quitter's Day,that's a free out.
If you're two weeks in andyou're like, yeah, I want to do
this, now's the time, it's likenobody's gonna get mad at you.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Here's the day do it now or you're stuck forever.
So, uh, so we kind of mentionedit a while back.
I don't make a new year'sresolution, so I can't really
quit one.
Um, I've quit plenty of thingsin my life, so that's not saying
that I don't typically make aresolution.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm the same way I don't make resolutions either,
but apparently this is a bigenough thing that it happens.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
There's a day for it.
Yeah, there's a day whichthere's a day for everything
nowadays, but there's a day forit.
That's true, there is, isn'tthere.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
There's a name at least I wonder though can we use
Quitter's Day Like make sure?
You're good to go?
No, it's already passed.
If you're on a job, yeah.
Now you've got to wait untilnext year.
Sorry, yeah, you've got to waituntil Quitter's Day next year.
If you're planning on quittingyour job.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
This year you cannot do it.
Yeah, second Friday of January26th, then you're allowed to
quit Until then you would notthe things that I look at on a
daily basis, something likethat's not going to pop up.
So that's what.

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That's what makes me curiousabout it.
I've got some random knowledge.
I mean, listen, I got all kindsof random knowledge.
None of it's helped me in todaythrough through life.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Now I do recall which I don't have a gym membership
anymore.
If you know me, you know that.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
But um, sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, I mean,
you know it used to be a thinguh, kids and oh 100 life just
gets busy, kind of keeps youbusy, it does but I I do
remember right after the firstof the year, the gym would get
packed and then as it went on it.
Yeah, you're not wrong.
So a couple of my buddies onfacebook were saying you know
they have to change gym timesbecause all the yeah, they

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called them resolutioners, Ithink something.
They had a name for them.
They're all here doing it.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
He said give it a few weeks and they'll all be gone
two weeks and and they call itquick.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yes, um, I used to go to the gym when I did go, at
like one two o'clock in themorning i'd'd say, yeah, I
usually went pretty late orsuper early, depending on how
you would look at it, dependingon what I was working and all
those things.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
So yeah, that was.
But even then you would seemore people than normal right at
the first.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, so there was a time in my old job that I may go
at like 4.30 in the morning or4 sometimes, depending on how
busy we were, and if I sawsomebody else, I'm always
looking like why are you here?
Like I know why I'm here CauseI'm working.
I'm working through the night,but why are you here?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Like it just didn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
So yeah, Um, if you miss quitter's day, sorry you
got to wait till next year.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It's past.
You know you, everybody alwaystalks about New Year's
resolutions and I feel like it'salways get in shape, get
healthier, get closer inspiritual stuff, whatever it is.
I don't want to hear the randomNew Year's resolutions.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Something just out there.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Like something very specific, like I'm going to eat
more chicken this year.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
I don't know something random that's just, I
think, for me.
I'd almost rather it be not aresolution, but like I know it's
a similar thing, but like agoal, like this year I want to
travel to this place, or thisyear I plan on doing this.
Yeah, like, because, like forme, if I was to do one, like in
my mind, the first thing thatcomes to my mind is like to have
a certain golf course that'd belike this year I'm going to

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play that course and I'm goingto figure out a way to get to
that course.
Like that's something kind ofwork towards.
It's really kind of hard toquit and if you don't make it
this year, it's not like it'sthe end of the world, like you
could still figure that out, butbecause you put so much
pressure on yourself, it's like,oh, I'm going to get in shape.
And then, when you don't, it'slike you kind of fall back down
that rabbit hole of howdifficult it can be If you're

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not careful.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
you're pushing yourself to this goal because
you think you have to, becauseyou're January 1st, and then
you're setting yourself up forfailure, almost because if
you're not ready, you're notready.
You've got to be ready for yourgoals.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Again, don't take nutrition and exercise advice
from us.
If you know us, we're not theones to ask that.
But it's just kind of astatement that we both kind of
think is there.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
If you listened to the last episode, you heard
about all kinds of food.
Nothing was healthy, so youshould know right off the bat.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
No, we're all about the PB&J which, by the way,
brian, you know where I'm goingwith this.
Okay, we spent some time lastweek talking about Uncrustables,
how great they are and howfantastic they are.
But how lazy we are that wehave to go get Uncrustables.
Let's be real.
Okay, we weren't going to gothere.

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We're just talking about howgreat they are.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
They were great, but we're lazy that we won't make a
peanut butter and jelly Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
So last night we had basketball practice for our team
that we coach, and afterpractice David reads me a post
that had been put out there thatBrian had never tried an
Uncrustable, and that led intohim talking to his wife about it
.
And she has never had a peanutbutter and jelly of any kind.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
You know, so I've thought about this since then.
Okay, so they have kids.
Correct, does that mean theirkids?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
have never had a peanut butter and jelly.
You know Brian slipped them one.
You think so?
Oh my gosh.
You know that he's had to havemade them one.
So my kid won't eat them.
He doesn't like jelly.
My oldest one, well that's.
He loves peanut butter, hedoesn't like jelly.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
So, and I that a little bit, because she was
texting brian, um, because brianis her cousin, right.
So, um, you know, if there's apeanut allergy I can understand
that.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
That's so.
There's probably people thathave.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah hasn't had one because of that, but to my
knowledge that's not the caseright?
Um, I think the I just took mymic out, sorry about this.
Um, I think the we can't havenice phrase that I heard was
Brian's wife, becca.
She likes jelly, she likespeanut butter, but she's never
had the desire to put themtogether.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
But they just go like there's the saying of it goes
together like PB&J.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Like those, go together.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
So she cannot use that saying no, that's what I'm
saying.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Something as simple as peanut butter goes with jelly
Period, Like there's nothingelse to say there well, and and
I want like there's nothingwrong that she's never had it,
it just took me by surprise.
Well, first of, all, there'snothing wrong, that's, that's
un-american now I want to knowdo they eat peanut butter and
jelly sandwiches in other partsof the country?
Brian, and you need to get onthat, you're okay um, so I do

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know, know.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I did watch a video one time they were talking about
with some people in the UK andthey don't do it there.
They don't do it.
Pb&j, like that's not somethingthey mix, Like peanut butter
and honey, like they do somedifferent things, but peanut
butter and jelly that's a no.
But then all the ones thattried it loved it.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
So does that mean is a little trashy American thing.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
A little white trash sandwich Maybe, I don't know.
Hey, I'm all for the whitetrash sandwich If you're the
elegant.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
You know, maybe Becca's a little more elegant
than we realized.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I'm going to make peanut butter and jelly a trophy
, and until we find somethingmore of a white trash sandwich
than PB&J, it's going to holdthe championship.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
And there's going to be something.
You know there is Okay, whitetrash trophy.
The white trash trophy iscurrently going to the PB&J.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
We'll definitely beat it with something, but yeah,
that's on the list for themoment.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Now we've got to figure out how to get a care
package up there, because theUncrustables are frozen, so
we're going to have to dosomething.
Me and Will talked about thisyesterday.
I like an Uncrustable.
When it is just out of thefreezer, just past the point of
it breaks your teeth, well,you're wrong Once it gets to the
point that you can then biteinto it.
That's what I like.
I like it to be really cold.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
So have you ever in your life made a peanut butter
and jelly sandwich and put it inthe fridge and made it cold, or
in the freezer and freeze itLike what?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
did you find out?
To me, an Uncrustable and apeanut butter and jelly feel
very different.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Okay, so you're looking at two different things.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
In a way yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Gotcha okay.
See, I want to thaw mine outand get a peanut butter and
jelly sandwich without having tomake a peanut butter and jelly
sandwich.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
No no, because then I'm like all right now I'm ready
to eat something, I'm going togo eat something.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
You know, after we had that conversation with Brian
when we came home, I think Iate a peanut butter and jelly.
I think my daughter got anUncrustable out of the freezer.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I had an Uncrustable last night.
I think my wife made one lastnight.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
It just got on everybody's mind, I guess.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, so I've already thought about how we're going
to do this, so I'm going to letthem do the bread, because
people are picky about theirbread.
Yeah, I mean, that's the onething, but I'll pick out what I
feel, jif, peanut butter beingthe best one.
Jif is the best.
I just think that Now can't gowrong with the whole Peter Pan.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Definitely can't go wrong with it.
Peter Pan peanut butter.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
That's a Peter Pan peanut butter in a long time, so
I'll get the Jif creamy.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
You can't throw it into the crunchy side of things
to start.
That's too advanced.
You've got to work up to that.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
That's an advanced PB&J.
You can't do that.
So the Jif creamy with grapejelly.
Oh, it has to be grape, and Iknow there's currently a poll
going on and I saw all of youthat voted for the wrong jelly.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, we can't be friends well, here's what I
learned there's two of you I amvery close to and we, we have to
have a talk so here's what Ilearned by the poll um and I
haven't looked in the last fewminutes or whatever, right, but
currently strawberry jelly isleading grape jelly and what
that leads me to believe isthese people have never tried
grape jelly, so I think theyneed to go to the store, get the

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grape jelly.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I just think it leads me to believe that we can't be
friends.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I just I can't believe that somebody's tried
both and still picked strawberry.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Now I will say this.
I got a text from my brotherlast week Right after we
released the podcast.
He's usually one of the firstpeople listens to it.
You know, shout out to BradLove you, thanks for supporting
it.
But his immediate thing is Idon't think I can continue.
You just said grape is betterthan strawberry, and I knew he
likes strawberry, he's alwaysbeen a strawberry guy.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I knew Brad.
I'm so disappointed.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I knew this and that that doesn't surprise me, but it
was one of those that Iremember saying it, but at the
time like I wasn't thinkingabout that, so I had to think
what he meant at first.
Then I was like, oh yeah, Iknow exactly what he's talking
about.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Now, though, I want to think about this.
Okay, I want to think about thepeople that we know who have
said strawberry, is it a, is ita specific personality?

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Is it like?
What's unique about Brad?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
we could be here a while, so that's different, but
does anybody else kind of fit inthat uniqueness that we're like
?
Okay, here's what it is.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well, I mean, I don't want to like get out of a chart
and like Venn diagram thisthing.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
We can do that.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Remember those little circle charts where they like
overlap Is that what it's calledlap, and that was called a venn
diagram.
Yes, god, stick with me.
Oh, you're using big words.
Come on, okay, you guys havemade fun of me for vocabulary.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Since I've met you, I haven't had to use the term
venn diagram in so long I forgotwhat now?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
you're learning you're, you're.
You didn't know.
You're coming back.
Okay, I'm gonna use that againsometime next time we talk about
it or I mention it and you makefun of me for saying venn
diagram next time you show.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Show up for this podcast.
I'm going to have a big boardon the wall with a Venn diagram.
We're going to go over this.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Words I use on one side, words you use on another,
and then very little in themiddle.
Yeah, probably that's about howthat usually works.
So there's a few things incommon with several of those.
There's a few that I don't knowthem as well to be able to tell
you.
Hey, they, they kind of fitthat.
Um, but yeah, two, two others,you know, paul and Christie

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people were close to I, I'm, I'ma little hurt.
I'm a little hurt.
Now I will say, and you know,shout out to both of them
they're, I'm hoping, having agreat time in Hawaii.
Oh, yeah, I forgot they were inHawaii, paul's doing a bunch of
speaking down there or overthere sorry, yeah, doing some

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great stuff.
For sure, they got wrapped upin this winter storm that just
hit us.
And you know, here in westernNorth Carolina we got in Brevard
.
We got maybe three inches ofsnow.
It wasn't that much, but ourarea does not handle weather
very well, so I was followinghis instagram so closely because

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it was killing me.
Oh, it was funny.
Them just documentingeverything.
They tried to leave for twodays, you know, end up having to
get picked up by some friendsof theirs, end up staying.
I mean, it was just, it wassomething non-stop and it was
hilarious, so I loved.
I loved watching that, um, so Ihope to get to talk to him
about that when he gets back Ifeel like it was one of the
funniest things going on.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
You know the the infamous story of me driving in
the yard and all that stuff.
Um, I feel like they do areally good job when things like
that happen, making the best ofit, uh so well, and I talked
about this with will, because meand will both are close with
paul as well.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
You know, having coached with him and stuff and
paul has stories man, he, justhe.
And then he knows not even thathe just has stories.
Paul's done so much in his lifewhich love paul to death he's.
He's been awesome to have, youknow, kind of back around
getting him but be involved withhim as much as we are anymore.
But he also knows how to tell astory.
Like he is so good at just howhe puts it out there and

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portrays it.
I love you know so quickly likewhen we go play golf with him,
I'm dying in the car the wholetime.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
So I've always said, I've thought this as long as
I've known Paul, his last namefits Because it's Oh's yeah,
he's just witty.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's very , very witty.
I 100.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, I agree with him, you know, and so, uh, yeah,
I've always thought that, butthey do.
They do such a good job when,when you know, they say when
life gives you lemons, makelemonade so yeah, just I mean
just really turning everythingto a positive 100%, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Well, I kind of want to jump in a couple things,
because I had some topics thatI've missed or just some stuff
that were kind of past.
You know, almost a week past,that happens a lot Past these
things at this point.
We had some college footballgames the other day.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
We did.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
We had two rather big college football games the
playoff semifinals Somethingthat has kind of been a big
staple of our podcast here forthe past two months, two and a
half months, whatever it's been.
At this point I just want tosay how right I was About which
thing?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
About Texas.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, but they played them way better than I expected
.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
No, I don't think the Buckeyes played good and Texas
was never really in it, I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Texas ain't any good.
Stick into it If they don'tfumble it there at the end near
the goal line.
If they would have gotten thatin I mean it's a tight game so
like they're in it, texas is nogood still.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
I was right they lost .
Go home.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
So I have a couple things about Texas.
I think their zone defense gaveOhio State some fits because
they did not run their typicaloffense.
What we've seen the past twoweeks of letting them just move
in the ball Jeremiah Smith hadthree yards.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
When you have a defense like that, it's kind of
that bend, don't break.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Oh 100%.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
It really throws you off a rhythm a little bit.
You have to be conservative alittle bit, I think I agree
that's what Ohio state fans havebeen upset about all year is
stop being so conservative andso that one kind of felt like he
was going back when really Ithink they had to be that way I
don't think they did, though,like there's so many weapons on
that team, put it in their handsand let them go to work.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, like they're.
They're just.
I felt like we're trying to runa pro stylestyle offense when
that's not what they are Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
So you think they kind of reverted back to what
you saw in the season, firsthalf of the season.
I feel like that.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I feel like they called the game like the first
half of the season, when inreality the last two weeks
they've looked more dangerousthan any team in the country.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
They did.
It's frustrating.
I just don't know if they had alot of choice.
Yeah, you're right, they got alot of weapons and different
things they can do.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
As many coaches you have on a coaching staff and as
much hours of film that you canget between those guys, you can
figure it out.
That's where that bothers me.
I don't feel like they werewilling to, in a way, take some
chances, because the bestoffenses take some chances.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I think you can be more conservative and I'm okay
with that.
But you've got a running gameand a passing game and you
should be getting somethinggoing and they kind of struggled
with all parts of the gamereally for a little bit they got
out of sorts for sure.
Their number one receiver didhe have a catch?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
He had one catch for three yards.
Yeah, that's what I wasthinking.
So I'll say this they scared mefor a bit.
I got nervous.
They did pull it out.
The signs of a good team iswhen you don't play good, you
still win.
I've always thought that's thetruth you may not have your best
stuff, but you're still able tofigure out a way to win.
Now I do think Notre Dame-OhioState is the best championship

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game we could have.
Yeah, I think they are by farthe two best teams currently.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'm not saying they've been that way all year,
but currently.
Yeah, we've talked about that.
That's the game that needed tobe the championship game, and if
it didn't happen that way, Ithink a lot of people was going
to be upset and it would havebeen lopsided either way I?
I think so.
Um, but now who?
I haven't even looked atanything.
Who in your mind is thefavorite?
Because we haven't said it,everybody should know now we

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don't give scores and stuff, butnotre dame won their game.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Ohio state won their game well, so notre dame, ohio
state.
Yeah, real quick on the notredame thing, I and I keep hearing
people say this well, georg,georgia didn't have a
quarterback, but they weren'tmissing anything.
On defense, georgia's defenseis stout, that's a good defense.
And Notre Dame still went outand put up points.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Well, they put up that one.
And then Penn State.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Right, yeah.
So I'm like you can't say theygot stuck there.
Well then they go play PennState, who's a very good defense
, who had their whole team, whohad everything, and they beat
them.
So for me, ohio State beatTennessee, good ball team Beat

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Oregon, then beat Texas.
Both of these teams had some ofthe tougher routes there and
have now proved themselves.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I think that's what's good about this playoff system,
because in years past, losingone game in the season would
have not even got you in thechampionship, correct.
And so we've had so many timeswhere at the end of the year.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
I think it's the six and the eight, so these guys
wouldn't have made it in thefour.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Well, at the end of the year we would not have had
the best two teams at that time,because you're looking at it
over the whole year.
We've said over and over Idon't need who's the best in the
middle of season when we get tothe end, I want the two best
teams that are playing theirbest then and I think we finally
got that this year.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I'm looking forward to it.
I think notre dame is very good.
I really do.
They're gonna be a.
I think it's a good game,regardless whoever wins, I think
it's gonna be very good gameand I kind of want it to be a
good game because that justmakes for a better watch of
football.
Like I want it to be a good,tight, fun game.
Who do you think is going to bethe favorite?
I think, without question,you've got Ohio State as a

(21:34):
favorite.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Is that because of the name or because you think
they're playing better footballright?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
now I think they've got $40 million worth of a
roster.
It better be a favorite.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
You know, I've heard a lot about that lately.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
So the number like I'm not saying the number Ohio
State puts out, but the numberthat most people equate with it
is Ohio State's $20 millionroster.
But then when you actually diveinto it some of it what I've
seen is it may be closer to $40to $50 million for a college
team roster which isunbelievable to me.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Kirk Her herb street, who I I love, um again, he's
ohio state guy, he's a wholestate guy, but he he brings up a
good point when, when you talkabout all the money they did go
out, yes, get a quarterback andsome different things, but a lot
of that money went to guys thatare still there it did.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
So it's not like they went out and got a bunch of
whole new players.
It was to keep, exactly becausethey would have went somewhere
else.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
No, I agree with that , but it is a team that's been
together.
Most of the team has beentogether for for several years
now and, but they didn't have topay him to.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
I'm not saying notre dame didn't go get some people,
because obviously the the kid,they have a quarterback transfer
from duke.
He didn't come there for free,I'm sure.
So you know they've got some,but obviously their, theirs is
just not as big of a number.
Um, I don't know what the linelooks like so far, who's the
actual favorite, but I wouldfeel like Ohio State is

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partially because they played ina tough conference partially
because of all those they'vekind of had some bigger games.
Notre Dame's schedule wasprobably not the best that I've
seen it in years.
Then they had a loss to aNorthern Illinois team that most
people didn't even know existed.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
I'm really having a hard time.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I feel, like.
Ohio State's probably thefavorite, but Notre Dame's kind
of a scary team.
They're good defensively.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
They don't make a ton of mistakes they play good
football, see, and again, Ihaven't seen it yet.
Um, I think you're probablyright.
I think the favorite's going tobe ohio state.
But when you look at you know,coming to you know right before
the the end of this season andcoming into the playoffs, notre
dame's probably been playing thebetter football overall.
Now, ohio state turned it onthere the last two or three

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games, but Notre Dame has beenthe better team, I think,
overall.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
According to ESPN, the current Ohio State is an
eight-point favorite.
Eight points.
They opened at nine and a half.
I think that's a lot.
They opened at nine and a halfand they've lowered it since.
I think that is a lot.
Now, if you get the Ohio Stateversus Oregon or Ohio State
versus Tennessee, 8's not goingto cut it.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I don't think Notre Dame wants a track race.
They're not one that's going tojust go out and put up 50.
Ohio State's nearly done ittwice in three weeks so that's
where I'm like.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
I don't know that you can say for sure are you
worried that notre dame is goingto come out and play that same
style of defense texas did?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
or does that?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
just not fit them not one bit I.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I think they're going to mix up, throw you different
things, because notre dame ismuch better in the secondary.
They've got some individualsthat can really play, where I
feel like Texas kind of just.
You're kind of trying to hidesome guys, not that they're not
good, but it's more athleticism,not necessarily just very good
at that position.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
We've had this conversation with basketball,
talking about Kentucky inspecific.
A team like Kentucky basketballright now plays better against
another talented team than theydo a team that's not talented
and has to muck it up a littlebit.
And that's kind of what I feellike Ohio State went through
with Texas.
Texas kind of had to muck it upa little bit.

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They couldn't get in a trackrace with them, and so that's
what I wonder what it's going tolook like another day.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
What I'll say for Texas.
Texas does a good job.
They blitz almost every play.
Now it doesn't necessarily meanthat they're bringing More than
typical, but they are sendingsomebody from an odd place.
They zone blitz everything.
But Ohio State's not playedmany teams that needed to run a
zone.
They've had guys that couldplay man, whether it's too high

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safety.
That's because Texas isn't anygood.
They couldn't play man.
So I think that'll change forTexas being in the SEC now.
I think they will get betterdefensively because I think you
have to Coming from the Big 12where it's who can score 61st
wins.
That's kind of how those gamesfelt Like it was basketball
scores the old Big 12 wasscoring more points than the Big

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10 was in basketball.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
You see a lot more defense in SEC Big 10, I think
than you did in some of thoseother conferences.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well, I mean especially Big 10 for years has
been known as we're going toplay good defense, we're not
going to score a lot of pointsand we're going to run the ball.
That's just what they did.
I think you're going to startseeing that change too, because
the addition of somebody like anOregon who now in Ohio State
runs it more you know the oldWisconsin way of let's go one by
one, running back in thebackfield, we hand it off, we

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run straight at you and get abunch of yards wing t power.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, everything is much faster paced.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
It's much more spread out like.
The game has changed a lot.
So I think you'll see the BigTen change a little bit in that
direction, but then I thinkyou'll see somebody like an
Oklahoma and a Texas go back to.
We've got to generate some moredefense because that's how
they're going to win in the SEC.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I want to get your pick in a minute, but what about
no SEC team being thechampionship game?
Does that hurt what they'vebeen yelling all year?
Even we've been saying thatSEC's so good they're beating
each other up or is that just aproduct of that happening?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
So my thought on that is I still think the SEC is
very good.
I think they're the deepestconference, without question.
I just don't know that theirtop is as good as the top
everywhere else.
So, like the Texas and Georgia,who are both good teams, I
don't feel like the top of theSEC was as good as the top of
the Big Ten, which is Ohio State, oregon, penn State.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
So was Georgia.
Until they lost theirquarterback.
Was they as good as Ohio State,Notre Dame, these other
conferences?
And did Georgia get worsebecause of the SEC schedule they
had to play in?
They were beat up, banged up,quarterback got hurt, so on.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I know it didn't happen in the season, but is
that a product of it?
It was the SEC championshipgame.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
It was still a conference game, but they got
hurt, which.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
that injury could have happened in any game.
It could have been againstGeorgia Southern, it could have
been anything, just the way hisarm got pulled.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
So is that why the sec isn't there, because they
beat upon each other?
Or are they?
Or do you in your mind?
Are they just not as good asohio state notre?

Speaker 1 (28:11):
dame, I I just don't think the sec, the top of the
sec, was as good as other placesthis year.
Okay, I I think the sec fromone to almost probably 10 was
better than everybody else's,one through 10.
Oh yeah, I don't question that,it's just I think.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
What I really see is that the top of it wasn't the
top of the country this yearwhere typically, like you know,
a Saban Alabama, you knew theywere going to be a top three,
you know that's a very goodpoint, because to me it almost
feels like a lot of these kidswho you know they want to play
in the SEC they're from theSouth, whatever Right Before

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they would go to Georgia,alabama.
You know a couple of schoolsand now maybe we're seeing them
spread out to all SEC schools.
Money talks, exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
You pay me enough money, you're going to go
anywhere when?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
you look at, maybe the Big Ten, the kids from up
north in that area.
I still want to go to ohiostate.
Yeah, I still want to go topenn state.
Like I'm not going to theselower schools and maybe, like
you're right, it's not the money.
And speaking of that money part.
So I heard a uh, a clip on apodcast show I listened to.
Um had an ex uh college playeron the show and I won't get into

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who it was in the show and allthat stuff, but um, they made a
comment about nil or somethingand his statement he played
probably I don't know six, seven, eight years ago, something
like that.
His statement was yeah, we didan nil different back then oh, I
mean it's been so, it's beenhappening for me.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
It has but to hear somebody like that come out and
just say, yeah, we did like wedid it, so it cracks me up
because that makes me think ofwhen, uh, you know, the comedian
shane gillis was on with patmcfee and then they went on to
college game day and you knowthe fact of him calling nick
saban uh, alabama jones, becausethat hat he was wearing like I

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it just it cracked me up becauseI'm like that's, that's
something he would say, but Idon't know that saban took that
as funny as everybody else didprobably not.
It's not funny what happens to,but you know he's a big Notre
Dame fan, shane Gillis is, andhe was talking about.
You know now that everybody'sallowed to pay, not just the SEC
.
You know kind of just making ajoke, because that's what he
does, yeah, and Saban got verydefensive.

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I never paid my, you know, butall of these big schools have
been having money change handsfor many, many, many years and I
don't know if it wasnecessarily money, but it was
good services.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Whatever it may have been, there's been something,
life was easier for them andtheir family, whatever it was.
But yes, I think I think it'sbeen across the whole country,
not just sec.
I think big tim's doing I thinkbig, I think yeah, I think it's
.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
I think it's just easy for them to talk about the
sec because they've been sodominant for for so many years.
When alabama kind of stoppedbeing the 100 dominant team,
georgia took over like it wasjust sec, just kept.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
You know the?
The d1 schools are in thespotlight, but I bet you go to
d2 schools.
It's the same thing.
They're stealing players fromthis school and that school and
trying to get them here.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
I mean the transfer portal is across everything.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's not just high school schools, it's not just D1
.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Oh, don't get me started.
That's what I'm saying herelocally we have kids that get,
you know, absolutely just takenby a couple of private schools
locally because they can do that.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
They can give stuff they can give.
It's all of a sudden you've gotscholarships and you've got
this.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
That like, yeah, you weren't gonna get it any other
way.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah so it's always happened, but it to me it was uh
unique to hear somebody that'sbeen there just say it out loud,
because everybody's been sohush, hush.
Oh, that didn't happen, thathappened and now that's legal.
What are they gonna do now?

Speaker 1 (31:34):
so it's like yeah I mean, you're not gonna go back
and mess with it now.
It just wouldn't make sense.
But a hundred percent, I feellike you're just trying to hope
for more integrity than wasreally there to to say it didn't
happen.
Yep, so yeah, I, I'm gonna getoff the nil stuff because I'll
keep going.
Uh, yeah, so I do.
I know you're talking aboutpicks.
Yes, what are you picking?

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And I'm trying not to do thisas a fan that's me too.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Um, I want ohio state to, of course, and I look back
at the season.
Ohio State had Right.
They lost to Oregon by one atOregon.
Yep, they should have won.
If Will Howard gets down ontime, I assume they would make
the field goal.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
I don't know that's Ryan Day's fault.
That's not Will Howard's fault.
No, I agree.
As a coach, you have to managetime way better.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yes, I'm not accusing him at all.
I'm just saying that's whathappened.
But even throughout all that,they didn't look good.
But they didn't have to lookgood to win.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
And then they go to.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Michigan and we know what happened there Still huge
rivalry.
It is that happened all overcollege football all year.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Now, real quick, before you say what you're about
to say.
We said this before Ryan Day isnot safe unless he wins a
championship.
Do you still feel that way he'ssafe?
You think so he's there.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Everybody that was jumping off is back on.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I don't know that.
I'm okay with it, though Twogames doesn't change my mind
about what we've seen for fouryears.
No, I think it's.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
It's recency bias is what it feels like.
It's not even the last game,because the last game didn't do
him any favors.
Oh no, in Texas.
No, it's how they beatTennessee and Oregon.
That, I think, kept him his job, him showing.
Hey, I'm willing to open thisup, not be as conservative and
go.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
I think it's body If that can stay.
But again, it's recency bias.
You've seen he's had three bigwins Prior to that.
He had zero wins Before thisseason.
Zero wins against a top fiveteam.
The only reason we got one thisyear is because we beat Penn
State.
It didn't look good in thatgame.

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It didn't look good offensively.
If we wouldn't have had somedefensive stuff score for us, we
would have struggled.
That's pretty much it.
He's not proven himself.
If we wouldn't have had somedefensive stuff score for us, we
would have struggled.
That's pretty much it.
He's not proven himself overthe last four years.
So I'm like, yeah, you're goingto end up with a contract
extension because you've made itfar enough, but I just don't
know that you really deserve it.
I just don't know that I agreewith it If they made a change.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I don't think I'd be that upset.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Honestly, I wouldn't be upset.
Change.
I don't think I'd be that upset.
Honestly, I wouldn't be upset.
So I don't think you make achange.
I think my thing is don't touchyour contract If he's got one
to two more years, let's seewhere they go.
I don't think you should get somany and so many sports and so
many different leagues.
This coach will make this bigrun and they're like let's lock

(34:23):
him down for eight years.
Yeah, you don't need that.
One one run doesn't correct thelast four years, like there's
still issues.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
No, for me, I've seen that he's willing to change,
willing to open it up, willingto let the oc you know uh be
more explosive with the playersthey have.
I think, no matter what happensin championship game, I think
it's earned him another year tosee if he can keep doing it,
yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
So when I say that I don't think he should be fired,
I don't think that, but I alsodon't think we should say well,
he made it to the championship,let's extend him.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, definitely do not extend.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Let's see what he does next year because he's
about to lose a ton.
Because he's about to lose aton, you open the season with
Texas next year.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Let's see what happens.
Well, that was what my thoughtwas too is what's his team going
to look like next year?

Speaker 1 (35:10):
What's the players coming in.
How's the?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
recruiting going to be?
Who are they going to go get?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
and bring in.
They have no idea what's goingto be at quarterback.
It's going to be interesting.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
The thing that makes it different for me a little bit
is it's ohio state, so if youlet ryan day go, you should be
able to get a good coach back.
So that's where I'm okay withit.
If it was like we don't knowwho we're gonna get, and it
could be, some, that's true.
That might sway me a little bitmore, but I'm good either way.
They do give him another year,see what he does at this point.
Or if they say, no, you lost tomichigan, every year we're

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gonna go another way, straightstuff.
You know, I'd be okay with thattoo and we'll see where it goes
um.
But with all that said, seeingthe way they played against, uh,
tennessee and oregon, I waslike, yeah, they've got it all.
And then I saw how they playedagainst texas.
Didn't love again, texas buckedit up a little bit.
I feel like notre dame has beenon a rail lately, right, like

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nobody slowed them down reallymuch so so does that mean you're
taking Notre Dame?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Because I mean I know the fan in you doesn't want to,
but trying to sit there andreally think of it, is that who
you're thinking?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
So I said, when this is tough for me to be honest
with you, because I said whenthe college football playoff
started, ohio State's coming outtheir back's against the wall
they have to do somethingdifferent.
They know it, the coaches knowit.
They gotta do somethingdifferent now, like what we just
talked about, because they'vegot where they are and they

(36:33):
played good a couple games.
Do the coaches feel like we'vebought ourselves some time?
Now we can kind of go back theway we was?
And that's what I'm worriedabout, because we just said, you
know, oh yeah, he shouldn'tfire him, let's give him another
year when, if he didn't beatTennessee, it was see you later.
I gotcha Right.
So did they buy him some timethat they can be comfortable?

(36:55):
And that's the one thing I'mworried about with him?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
So, with that said, who are you picking?

Speaker 2 (37:03):
You're really putting me on the spot.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
here I am because you're talking your way around
it like you're trying to figurea way out of picking Notre Dame
it sounds like you're thinkingNotre Dame.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
No, I'm not.
I'm really torn to be honestwith you because, as a fan, I
want Ohio State to win and ifOhio State comes out as they
were, they're going to win, noproblem.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I've got to think about Notre Dame a little bit.
So when it comes down, to it.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Let's talk our way through Notre Dame here.
Like who's Notre Dame beat andlooked just amazing.
I say they've been on a railbecause nobody's really slowed
them down, but they've not justbeen.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
So here's the thing about Notre Dame they lost to
Northern Illinois, looked awful,couldn't establish a run,
couldn't throw the ball,couldn't do anything.
Ever since that game they'venot skipped a beat.
They've come out, they'vecommitted we can run the ball.
We've got two guys that haverun the ball efficiently all
year.
We've got a quarterback thatcan do it and then when you

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decide that you need to fill thebox, we're going to sling it
because they've got they've gotgreat tight ends, they've got
solid receivers.
They can play with anybody.
They've got the talent.
It's just.
And I think they've got a coachFreeman's fantastic coach.
I love you know.
Again, he's an Ohio State guy,played at Ohio State, so he he
knows what it's like to bearound big football.

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He's not come from tiny stuff,he comes from big-time football,
so the game so far has not beentoo big for him.
He's looked good since he tookthat job and now we're really
seeing he's coming to his ownand Notre Dame's a good football
team.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I know and that's the thing we're really talking like
Notre Dame is the better teamright here.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Unless Ohio State comes out with what we know they
can do.
So, with that being said, I'mputting you on the spot.
You have to pick somebody NotreDame, Ohio State who's going to
win?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
it.
Man, I don't have an answer.
I've got to think I've got tohave a minute.
Let me thank you.
You talk a little bit.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Man knew he was recording tonight and he hadn't
even thought about this.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
No, I have thought about it because I thought I
would have an answer and Ithought I knew my answer and I
think it's going to be a reallygood game.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I really do, um I think the stars come out.
I think we may see some playswe've not seen all year.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Okay hold up.
I don't know where you're going, okay, and I don't want you to
persuade me either way okay, soyou have a pick, because you're
sitting here thinking hard.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I mean, I can see the steam coming off your head well
thinking.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I don't want you to persuade my thought okay, okay,
I know I'm very persuasive.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I can get you either way at this point.
No, no, because you're stuck inthe middle.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
No, no, you.
Ohio State, ohio State, OhioState.
Part of me wants to pick NotreDame because I'm a Ohio State
fan and I can win either waybecause I'm that close Right.
But I think at the end of theday they still got to win,

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because some fans might stillnot like Ryan Day there.
If he doesn't win thechampionship, it might take the
championship to save his job.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I'm taking the Irish.
Are you Okay?
I am, and the reason being Ithink for the first time all
year they may do a slight twoquarterback system that nobody's
ready for.
The kid in the back is a pocketpasser that can absolutely
sling it, and if you're rotatingin and out and they show things
that have not been seen allyear, you can't stop it.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
If you don't have film on it there, you can't stop
it what worries me with notredame again is their coach, and
you saw the willingness to comeup with something unique, that
what he did against georgia withrunning the 11 off in the punt
team.
11 on 11 off so you're right,you don't know what you're gonna
see, I I just think.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
I think it's been what since?
Like the 80s, since NotreDame's won a championship?
I think it happens.
You think this is their year.
I hate to say it as a Buckeyefan, but I think it happens.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
They're a good ball team.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
They can play defense , they can run the ball, They've
got a great offensive line.
They're missing a few pieces.
They have alignment that justwas ruled out today but they're
a good ball team.
They play an NFL-style gamewhich can be hard to cover but
at the same time they can throwin the wrinkles of.
You know, our quarterback cantake off at any moment.
We run quarterback power, werun draws, we run all kinds of

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stuff.
I think they're tough and Ithink it's going to be a good
game.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I didn't think they were going to beat Georgia even
without their startingquarterback.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
I didn't question that because I don't think
Georgia can score with thebackup.
Defensively, georgia's good.
What I said at the verybeginning of the playoff about
Penn State I've got some buddiesthat are big Penn State fans
and I said the same thing tothem If Penn State can score
points, they can beat anybody.
They couldn't score points.

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They could not consistentlyscore points.
Defensively they are fantastic,Couldn't score points.
Notre Dame can score points,can play good defense, can make
you turn the ball over, can doall of it.
So in my mind, Notre Dame isgoing to win, and again I hate
to say that I don't want it tohappen, but I think that's

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what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Like you said, I've been on the fence so I have no,
I can't argue that with you.
I mean, I think Ohio State'sgoing to win because I think
they're the more explosive team,but I don't know if Notre
Dame's going to give themexplosive plays, but I think
they're going to come out.
You know when's the last timeOhio State won a championship?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
First year of the playoff 15?
It was the first year.
They went to the 14th yeah sosomething like that.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Was that with Cardale Jones, the third string
quarterback?
Yep it was.
It was.
That's not acceptable for OhioState.
That was what Urban Meyer's Wasit Urban.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Meyer, Second to last year last year, ryan Day's
first year, I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Somewhere around there.
I can't remember either.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
No, it wasn't Ryan Day, because he hasn't won
championships.
It would have been Urban Meyer.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, so it's unacceptable at Ohio State.
So thinking about that, if hedoesn't win a championship?

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I think they do.
I don't know what they'll dowith there.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I don't want to see an extension either way.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
They have too many weapons to lose this game.
And so while I sat here andtalked Notre Dame up, and you
did too, if Ohio State loses,it's their own fault.
They have so many weapons onthat field.
They do.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
But they're also a team that relies on the big
plays and Notre Dame doesn'tgive up a lot of big plays Like
a team that needs that explosivebig play.
Like you, look at the gameagainst Texas right there before
halftime big screen play, 75yards and then the pick and then
the fumble recovery by theirlinebacker who runs it back.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
No, you're right, Without those it was big, big
possibilities.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
If Notre Dame doesn't allow the big play, can Ohio
State drive down the field andthen score.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Oh, probably not, Because against Texas.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
They drove down the field and then had a couple of
stupid penalties and then puntedit.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
I think you're 100% right.
That's probably the key to thegame, because Ohio State has to
have some explosive plays.
So if Notre Dame can shut thosedown, you're right, that's
going to be the tale.
That's so.
If Notre Dame can shut thosedown, you're right, that's going
to be the tell.
The fact that we're having thisconversation, even as Buckeye
fans and worried about the game,says we got the two right teams
there and while I didn't likesome of the seeding and the buys

(44:31):
and some of those games, theend we got what we needed, what
we wanted, and so hopefully theydon't mess with it too much to
mess that up.
But the earlier games couldhave been a little better in
that.
Probably second round, I guess,is where it could have been
better.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yeah, I think we've got to do a better job at
figuring out that kind of 9through 12.
That section through there wasa little maybe.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Well, you, took teams who probably maybe even
shouldn't have been in or wouldhave been the bottom two or
three, and you gave them a byebecause they won the conference
or would have been the bottomtwo or three and you gave them a
bye because they won theconference.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, yeah that's kind of what I want to figure
out.
That's tough.
Better teams should get byes,not just because you won a
conference.
Like you could win a conferenceand kind of sneak your way in,
kind of like an Arizona Statedid, but probably shouldn't have
had a bye though, Like being inokay, maybe I can see it, but
getting a bye is tough.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
So I'm maybe I can see it, but getting a buy is
it's tough.
So I'm gonna put up a, uh, avenn diagram so it's called venn
diagram of with notre dame hallstate.
We're gonna put all this stuffin there.
That way you've got it so youcan see our thoughts.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
You know I don't want you to I don't really think
that would fit in a venn diagram, but I just want, you just want
to use the word.
I want to use, I want a reason,no, no, what I want is a reason
to actually draw a Venn diagramfor you.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Just so you know, because you used the word I want
to make sure we, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
keep that.
I used the word.
You were already trying to talkabout it.
You were saying the thing withthe circles and but I was
talking about like a normalperson.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I wonder how many people just in a normal
conversation could come up withthe term Venn diagram off the
bat.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
I think it's more than you think.
So you're calling me dumb.
You want to take an over-under.
I'm not calling you dumb, Imean I would call you dumb.
I'm not calling you dumb, but Imean I'm not afraid to.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I think I probably have at one point.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Do you have an over-under on that?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Listen, I'm just a man that uses more common sense
than the book.
Smart occasionally.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
If you know me at all , my job is to fool you to think
that I'm smart.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I just gotta use big words to fool you.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
I don't have to actually be smart.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
That's where it comes in.
That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
See, I fooled you for years.
We've known each other a longtime at this point, and you're
just now figuring this out.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Things are coming full circle that I'm remembering
here.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
He's actually an idiot.
How did this get by me so long,I wondered?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
You just got an encyclopedia on your phone.
You just keep finding words ofthe day.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
That's what it is One of those words of the day
calendars.
No, it's the toilet paper, theword of the day toilet paper.
Each sheet has one.
Okay, yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
So Vin I just hit it.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
That was the word of the day.
Didn't need it today.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
So we talked about SEC football a little bit and
being so good, so I want totransition to SEC basketball
this year.
Is it going to be the same way,with all these teams beating
each other up and I know that'sa great?

Speaker 1 (47:09):
transition over, but it's looking like it.
The SEC is stacked in the top25, and we've seen upset after
upset.
We were talking about it lastweek and I was like, oh,
tennessee's really good.
They lose by 30 to Florida,after Florida just got beat by
Kentucky and then actuallyFlorida's playing currently
getting beat by an unrankedMissouri.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Auburn's playing good .
I think Alabama just got beatby Ole Miss.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Alabama's top five and they just got beat.
Mississippi State is up thereranked, I mean, there's so many
teams.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Well, so Georgia beat Kentucky.
Georgia wasn't even ranked,correct.
Then Kentucky goes to beatMississippi State, who was
ranked yeah, and they're justbeating each other up.
Make it make sense is what I'mtrying to think at this point.
So do you feel the same waywith football, that they're
deeper, but maybe the top teamsaren't as good as you know your

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North Carolina?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Dukes.
No, I think the top of the SECis still a top of the SEC.
It's still a top, but I don'tthink the gap is huge.
I think they're all really goodand the top is still the top.
The bottom is still really good, but I don't think the gap is
huge.
Where, like the ACC Duke iscoming to their own right now,

(48:22):
cooper Flagg.
Where, like the ACC Duke, iscoming to their own right now,
cooper Flack's playing amazingand that scares me.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
As a Tar Heel fan, I don't want to play that team.
But so does SEC's top teams,and I'm going to say probably
Auburn, tennessee maybe Alabama,auburn, tennessee, alabama,
right now.
Florida?
I don't know we'll see yeah, um.
Are those teams as good as theACC top teams Duke and Carolina
hang?

Speaker 1 (48:39):
on, hang on ACC top teams you stop at Duke.
Hang on, hang on ACC top teamsyou stop at Duke.
Is that it?
Everybody else is pretty roughthis year.
Carolina is not having a greatyear.
Duke right now is the standoutand they are standing out Like
they are nationally standing out.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
So who's your other standouts?
You see throughout the countrythe other conferences.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
I mean you're still seeing Kansas, You're still
seeing UConn, You're stillseeing Kansas, You're still
seeing UConn, You're stillseeing kind of the same old,
same old.
But I think what you're seeingis that it's dominated by the
SEC currently.
I mean top 25, I want to saythey have like eight teams.
I mean it's ridiculous how manyteams they have in the top 25
right now.
For one conference to have thatmuch is pretty impressive

(49:17):
actually.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, it is.
They're projecting right now, Ithink, 13 SEC teams to get in
the tournament or something likethat.
So I don't know how that works,because when you say in 13 are
going to get in and really therest of their season is playing
each other, that means they'regoing to get no bad losses,
because who they're going tolose to is already in turn two,
especially the way that thebasketball March Madness works,

(49:40):
that they have these differenttiered wins.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
They have a label for everything.
If you lose to a big team away,that's such a high tier that it
really doesn't hurt you.
It's when you lose to a badteam at home, or technically for
Kentucky, the Georgia game,it's bad loss, but it depends on
what Georgia does they were onthe road.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
They were on the road .

Speaker 1 (50:01):
They were on the road to a Georgia team that's only
lost twice that year already, soit's not like it was an 8-18.
They were 11-2.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I'm going to say this because last week I talked a
little bit about the officials,because I went to that game and
I thought more and more about itand I said over and over, I
don't want to make excuses formy team, don't make excuses for
my team, and I've been watchingthese games and the officiating
in college basketball ishorrible.

(50:29):
It's pretty bad, yeah it.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
I feel like they guess all the time, and most of
the time it's probably right,but a lot of times it's not well
, I think, I think allofficiating, and I'll say nba,
college, high school, they aretoo swayed by somebody flailing
an arm or flipping their headback or like they just naturally
it's like, oh, somethinghappened, I gotta call foul and
they don't really know whatthey're calling.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Are the players so athletic, fast, tall, jump high
that the officials can't keep uplike literally watching
everything?
If that's the case, add another.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I I'm with you.
Add another, because if you, ifyou are too slow to keep up
with those guys, add more now.
That doesn't mean I need you tocall more.
I just think you need to be inbetter position.
And if you can't do it withthree, add four, add five I
don't care at this point,whatever you need.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Just again I'll say it make it make sense, and it's
not in just like a game that I'mrooting for my team or whatever
it's in every game, no, all thebig games.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I'm watching it's happening constantly.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
And so I thought about it afterwards when I said
do I don't want to blame, I kindof do, because I heard I'm
going to blank on the name thecoach the other day was saying
he got thrown out.
Was it Nick Cronin?
Maybe somebody, somebody, Idon't know.

(51:44):
So yeah, um, and he's like I'vehad enough.
Like like this is this isridiculous, and it's been that
way in every game.
I so I complained about georgiaat kentucky and I think georgia
shot something like 39 freethrows to at the end, finally,
kentucky had like 15 the verynext game until the last five
minutes.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
It was, it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
But the very next game georgia played and I can't
remember who it was I have tolook back to see who they beat
the other day it was likegeorgia shot 30 something at
home and their opponent shotlike nine right.
So two games out on georgia'scourt.
They shot 70.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Some free throws to their opponents the big question
is georgia paying officials?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
well, I mean you know , these officials rotate around
so I can't imagine that's thecase, but something is clearly
going on.
Maybe that's the way they play,maybe they're good at faking,
you know, like you said,throwing the head back and
things like that.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
So that's what I hate , is I hate an official that
automatically goes to thereaction Like as soon as
somebody you know flops, andthey fly out of the middle of
nowhere.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I want to point this out.
You hate something too with me,so you're coming on to the hate
side a little bit.
Hang on.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
If you were a fan of sports, you hate officials.
That's across the board.
I'm with you and I don't knowhow to fix it.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
That's across the board and I think, part of being
a fan, you're made to hateofficials.
They're supposed to be the badguy Like you want your team to
play well and you want goodgames, and the officials are
always stopping it and slowingit down and all those things.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I'm okay with them being wrong, some because
they're human.
Well, it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, I'm not saying I need you to be perfect, I mean
the whole thing, like inbaseball.
I'm still against robot umpires.
I don't think that's a goodidea because I think those guys
are so talented if they justbarely touch something, but they
get some bad calls.
There too, they do.
But there's some good umps outthere, like there are some that

(53:30):
show in the StatCast stuff thatthey were 100% Like they
literally are perfect.
So why are we going to say,well, you're also going to get
replaced, like to me, just getrid of the bad ones.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
That's understandable and that's something you know.
I think basketball officiatingis way worse than any other
sport and I don't know why thatis.
I feel that way.
You get some officials infootball, baseball, everything
that make calls Basketball andmaybe it just affects the game.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
More Basketball stands out more so I I don't
know that I would agree withbasketball being worse, because
an umpire in baseball, if youmake him mad, you're done the
the strike zone that he's goingto change to the stuff that he's
going to call.
I mean, this past year we wereseeing guys get thrown out of
games just for shaking theirhead like it was stuff that was

(54:19):
like you have got to be kiddingme, Like get out of your
feelings, Like call the game sowhy don't they get rid of these
officials?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Because you see it.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Contracts, unions, they can't.
I mean, they finally got rid ofone.
That was what, 50 years pasthis prime I don't even know if
he ever had a prime and theyreally just more have talked him
into it Like, hey, you're justold, let's try to get you out,
let's get you out.
And he was terrible, and it wasthe same one that was always

(54:48):
like, oh, there's a bad call, Ibet you.
It was so-and-so Like as anumpire, I shouldn't know your
name, you shouldn't be so badthat we know your name.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
That's in every sport .
We should not know them, and weknow a lot of them.
We know too many, yeah, and Isee this all the time.
Would it help if they had toanswer to the press and stuff
after the game, like the playersand coaches do?
Kind of hold them a little moreaccountable.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
You would have to have some classes for them,
because there are some.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yeah, but I don't want Coach Speak, I want them to
have to.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
No, no no, take, for example, like a Joe West in
baseball.
You don't want him with a mic.
I'm just saying like the waythat he just will absolutely
explode on somebody.
He's going to do that at thepress and then now the league is
going to have to be responsiblefor that and handle it.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
It's a little crazy.
Then your requirements tobecome an upper official is
different.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
You've got to be able to handle the press.
I don't necessarily think weshould have that because, again,
I don't really care about pressconferences, even when the
coaches do it.
That doesn't mean much to me,so I'm not really going to care
for the officials to do it.
But I think we need to holdthem accountable more than just
you didn't have a great game,let's fix that.
No, like if you are wrong, aplayer gets fined.

(56:00):
Why can't an official get fined?
That's a good point.
Why can't he not get to?
Like it takes a lot for them tosay, well, you're not going to
get this big game.
Like you have to be really,really bad or have made somebody
mad.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Well, you've kind of pointed out baseball umps and
how bad they can be.
Yeah, so if somebody was therewaiting on them when they got
done, even if it wasn't in frontof the press, whether it's head
, you know somebody that's overthere and their boss or whatever
, saying all right, hey, let'ssit down.
What about this?
Why'd you do this?
Like would that cause them tobe a little better?
Because they can't just go hide.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
So at that level, they do have meetings, they have
reviews.
Well, it's clearly not working.
Well, I just think there'snothing they can do.
The way that all their stuff isset up, even when you have that
review and say, hey, you'rereally bad, but there's nothing
I can do, like I can't fine you,I can't fire you, I can't do
any of this.

(56:52):
So it's like you're bad.
Try not to be bad.
There needs to be more to it.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
You said you don't like the robot umpires.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Well, okay.
So I went to baseball becausebaseball is the biggest one
that's pushing for a change inofficiating, because you know,
aaa has been testing it for abit Before that was AA and
really working on the robotumpires.
The problem with these majorleague guys the pitchers are so
good With there being basicallyAI technology and you know

(57:24):
they're reading these radars andall these different things.
If it was to barely scrape apotential line of that strike
zone, the robot on par calls ita strike.
But if you were to look at that, live well, because the thing
is they use it as like a square.
It doesn't have to cross theplate in the front.
If it crosses it in the back,it's a strike.
It shouldn't be.

(57:45):
It's got to cross the plate.
It's got to cross within theguidelines, not come way back
and circle around and touchsomething.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
But I think if it crosses anywhere on the plate,
even at the back corner, it'sstill a strike as long as it
crosses somewhere on that plate.
So to me, if you have like acube kind of or it's not a cube,
I guess it's a diamondbasically, but they use it, they
make it a cube is the thing.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
So it's like technically it didn't actually
cross Because the back of it isa diamond.
Yeah, so there's big cutouts,but it's a cube.
Oh, I see what you're saying theplate for sure, because that's
not what's going right now.
So the ones that you're seeingand you you've got these guys
that are are getting strikecalls on ones that you're like
there is no shot.
That was a strike, yeah, butagain, robots can mess up too,

(58:29):
because those are designed byhumans, so there's still gonna
be mistakes I just probably lesslikely to do it.
Um, I get what you're sayingscapegoat, though instead of
instead of just better, we'retrying to find a way out.
That's the way that feels.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
I'm with you there, because we do that with a lot of
things.
No 100%.
But I do think, just like we seein golf and what we're doing at
our range with Top Tracer rangeand all this stuff and
everything's on technology.
And then you see things likeumpires who are not I still get
on this.
Why umpires who are not um, Istill get on this.

(59:03):
Why are we having all thistechnology and we're measuring
first downs on football withchains on the sideline?
You're, you're ready to makethat change?
I'm ready to make that changeand I know we've been doing it
for years.
But you know when theydetermine if, if you got a first
down, well let's go get areview let's see if we can tell
the ball.
When half time you can't see it,let's guess where maybe it went
.
Now let's pull the chains out.
Now we're five inches short.
Let's just put something in theball.

(59:24):
Let's do something to knowwhere the ball stops.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
So for me that kind of takes up another interesting
topic.
The things that we pick andchoose to interject technology
into doesn't always make sense,because something like that
could have been one of the firstones, because something like
that could have been one of thefirst ones, like we could have
very easily done that a longtime ago.
You clear up the sideline, you,you need less people.
Like it takes a lot of stuff,and again not saying like, oh,

(59:48):
let's take jobs.
I don't mean that, but it's thefact of there's always gonna be
jobs or other things it can't bewrong, like, if, like you said,
if you have gps tracking in theball, well, the official every
play is kind of guessing wherethat ball should be at and we
pointed out when it's like a bigfourth and one or whatever, are
they going to get first down.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
But it happens every play and if you watch the
officials in games especially ifyou're at them live and you see
an official run down, he's 10yards behind the ball running up
there guessing where the ballstopped putting his foot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Well, there was a third down.
It the ball running up thereguessing where the ball stopped
putting his foot?
Well, there, there was a thirddown.
It was actually ohio state,texas.
Uh, their quarterback takes off.
Looked like he was short.
The official gave him the firstdown.
They ended up reviewing it.
It came back and back it was ayard and a half off.
Well, when you're talkinginches, that's that's massive.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
But what happens a lot of times, especially on the
goal line, is that you know theyhave the cameras, oh yeah, but
there's so many players so ifthey couldn't see where he was
actually down they would havejust said oh, it stands is
called, and it would have been ayard and a half off right.
So no, I don't think there'ssomething needs to be done with.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I don't think technology is the fix for
everything.
I think there's some thingslike I'm still okay with some
human error.
I think that's what kind ofmakes some of the game.
So I don't want to take it towhere it's all robot officials,
all everything across the board,because then you're kind of
taking the spirit of the gameout.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Well, some penalties in every sport is an opinion
somewhat.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
How you view it.
I see what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Pass, interference, different things like that.
How you view it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Well, because some officials allow more physicality
interference, different thingslike that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
How are you doing it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Well, because some officials allow more physicality
.
Some are as soon as you touch,Like it just depends on that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
So those things have to be human.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
But that to me is we can.
You should just train better,like you shouldn't go one week
and I can't touch anybody to thenext week.
Now I'm, you know, taking yourwallet out of your back pocket
and it's still nothing.
That's a big thing inbasketball, for ball that's.
You gotta just make it moreconsistent.

(01:01:44):
But I don't think makingeverything electronic or
everything technology is to fixhow some people believe is the
case.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Yeah, I don't like that.
Technology has its place and weneed to use it in different
walks of life use it alongside,but don't let it take place yeah
, there's a lot of things thatthey're talking about technology
right now that I'm I'm okay notdoing a little questionable
like let's slow down, I'm notready to get in a car.
That's all.
The cars drive themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Two inches from each other.
I couldn't trust it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I'm not ready for that but I'm ready to to put it
on the sideline of a footballgame.
I mean, let's do that yeah,yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I think there's certain aspects of life that, if
it can make something a littlebit easier, but not completely
take control of it, that'sthat's a little different.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
So I mentioned golf, and golf is doing a better job.
I don't know how good it is yetof bringing technology to the
sport yeah, tgl.
Tgl is in week two um, I knowyou said the big man tonight
tiger woods made his debut.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
His team got destroyed, okay.
So who is his team?
He is part of the Jupiter Lynx.
They played LA today.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
So does I know Jupiter's a golf town in Florida
.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Basically, oh, jupiter's the biggest golf town
in Florida, but I feel likeJupiter versus LA seems like a
big difference.
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I thought they would have picked a bigger team, like
a bigger city, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Well, so, Tiger is one of the founders of it, him
and rory mcelroy.
Tiger lives in jupiter, so forhim it's just his hometown yeah,
I mean, you know, michaeljordan's grove 23 is in jupiter,
like jupiter is where golf isin florida, so you think michael
jordan's rooting on tiger woodsbecause he's his neighbor, like
probably not um after hewatched, him, after he watched

(01:03:21):
him tonight, I I'd say no.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Pick a better team.
So that's the name, but who'son the team?
So for.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Jupiter, it's Tiger Woods, kevin Kisner, tom Kim,
Max Homa.
Tom Kim wasn't there tonight,so Kisner, who is assistant
captain for the Ryder Cup, Ithink, still a great pick.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
But Kisner doesn't, so can they have a fill-in, they
kind of can rotate.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
We haven't really seen the team have four yet, so
we've not really gotten to seehow that's going to work,
because not everybody's there.
Depending on travel, dependingon tournament arrangements,
we're starting this new eventand people can't be there, guys,
you've got to be there.
What?
And people can't be there?
Guys, you've got to be there.
What are we doing?

(01:04:06):
So, yeah, Tiger was week two.
I think they're going to havegreat viewing numbers because
Tiger played it wasn't betterthan last week and if you
listened to us talk last week,if you know me, you know I've
been excited about this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
You've talked about it a lot.
You wanted it for a birthdaypresent.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
I did and I still would go.
I think in person it would be ablast.
I think in person could reallychange it, but I don't think
that it's translating well on TVright now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
There's some sports like we've talked about NASCAR
in the past.
I love seeing the cars inperson but it is way better
watching it on TV, trying tokeep up with everything that
makes sense.
So I worry that even going to agolf event so you said you
think it'd be better in person,you think because the commentary
is that bad?

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
well, so I think that'll be better in person,
because you're going to seeevery shot.
You're in the atmosphere.
It's a little different at agolf tournament.
You miss so much because you'reonly following certain people
or you're at certain holes.
You don't get to see everythinghappening around you.
So if a big shot happens onhole 18, but you're sitting at
hole seven watching somethingyou have no idea, so like you're

(01:05:07):
going to miss some things, orthis you're not missing when
you're watching on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
is the crowd like into it?
Are they like the players thatare mic'd up?
Is the crowd hearing that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
So I don't know if they're that's also getting
relayed, because that'd bereally hard to be talking, but
then also hearing yourself there, um, so you're getting to hear
that on tv.
But I was actually thinkingabout it, you know, on my way
here to to record and I was likeyou know, the biggest thing I
think tgl is doing wrong rightnow is in their broadcast one.
I think I want to hear lessplayer talk.
I think I should hear some, butI think there's too much dead
air.
It's just like it's too muchsilence.

(01:05:46):
But if you look at every bigsport and every sport that does
it well, it's a minimum two-manteam in the booth.
Okay, if you think about it,every NFL game you watch two
guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
So I haven't watched any of it, so I'm assuming they
don't have to.
Okay, they have one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
And he barely speaks.
And it's not anything againsthim, it's just kind of the way
they have it set up.
They're wanting you to heareverything else.
I don't want to hear everythingelse.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
They want you to hear the players.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
When I watch a game, whether it's football,
basketball, whatever all thatdead space is the commentary and
you get good stories and youget like they pull you in with
the commentary.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Also the sports, when you're watching a random sports
game sec plus or something elseright random commentators.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
It's a completely different experience yeah, when
you hear, when you hear twopeople and you're like they're
just not good.
Like you know, obviouslythey're doing a smaller game, so
you're not putting your bigpeople on, but then when you
watch the big guys that arereally good at it, it's like it
makes the game better.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Well, and it may not be that they're never going to
be good, they're just not thereyet.
Correct.
They're going to be new,correct.
So, to me, coming into a newevent like this with Tiger Woods
and Roy and you're reallyputting some effort behind it, I
guess, effort behind it, Iguess, yeah, I don't know if
they are not, there's a lot ofmoney involved, but um seems
like you need to figure thosethings out and have the
top-notch guys there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Well, so I'll say this they they actually um had
serena williams on tonight.
She's a fan of la, she livesout there and they did a little
interview with her.
You know, they kind of pickedsome different people.
It was better when her and theand the main guy were talking.
I was like heck put her onthere, like not that she needs
to be in a golf broadcastbecause she doesn't know enough

(01:07:26):
about it.
But they did well together,like it.
It pulled me in a little bitlike that segment.
I was kind of like okay, I'mkind of with it okay.
And then as soon as she got off, it was like we're listening to
dead air or like when you getbelow 15 seconds cause they have
a 40 second shot clock when youget below 15 seconds, a
heartbeat starts sounding.
So I'm just sitting herelistening to this thump that I'm

(01:07:47):
like okay maybe in person.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
That makes sense You've had all this quiet time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
It's like it just doesn't, it doesn't fit Like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
did you stay with it longer this week than you did
last week?

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Um week um.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
I've made myself, okay, not not necessarily that I
wanted to did the match lastlonger this week.
I'm not sure they got destroyed.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
But no, they got destroyed, so that's part of it.
I mean, we need and I so me andwill were texting while we're
both watching it and he's sayingthe same thing.
He says I hate this, I hatewhat.
Like I don't like watching itand I and I keep telling myself
it's got to get better, right.
Like I want to like it so much,like I'm not going to force
myself to like if it's a badproduct, it's just bad product,
but one of the one of the otherthings that it's golf's got to

(01:08:26):
do a better job of.
In the tgl, it's likeeverything is brought to you by
somebody.
Nobody's over all of it.
It's like, well, the hammer'sbrought to you by fedex and the
green zone's brought to you byfull swing, and this, the Green
Zone's brought to you by Full.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Swing.
They sponsor everything.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
And it's like stop doing 100 sponsors.
If this is Tiger's people andit's Tiger and Rory, let one
company be like they sponsor it.
They're ahead of it.
We've got 100 different peopleand it's almost just like an ad
board.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
It just gets in the way.
It sounds too much like money,Like you said they're all trying
to sell everything they can.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Like Max Homa being on Jupiter.
Max just signed with Cobra thisyear.
I like Max Homa.
Max Homa cracks me up.
He's been rating golfer swingson Twitter for the past few
years and it's absolutelyhilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
So we have a Cobra account for golf golf.
Can we get max homer out now?

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
I wish he can rate my swing.
He'd rip me a new one, it'd be,hilarious.
I'd love it, but he's been doingthat on twitter and it's it's
just it's personality that golfneeds.
It's the type of person that'slike I can get behind that
because he's fun and like.
You see him like with his cobragear and you're seeing uh
sahith the gala with his pingstuff and you're seeing Tiger

(01:09:42):
with with his Sunday red stuff,but we've yet to have a what's
in the bag, like as a golfer,like we like to see what those
guys are playing Cause we'recurious.
Like we can't play their stuffbecause we're not good enough.
But I'd still like to know, butlike we haven't seen any of
that, you're not getting likethe little things that could be
more fun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Is that a secret in golf that they don't want
everybody to know what's intheir bag?

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
No, I mean golf, golf , what Now?
Every week after a tournamentyou get a what's in the bag.
The winner does a what's in thebag.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
See, that's what I want.
Everybody does it, so why can'twe do that?
I want something fun andenergetic and I thought I would
go watch it at some point.
I was watching a basketballgame tonight, so I didn't, but I
keep hearing you talk about it.
I'm kind of like I don't knowif I want to waste my time on it
.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
I honestly think with some little improvements it
could be a lot better.
And the biggest thing for meright now is broadcast related.
Like if we could fix just somebroadcast stuff, I think it
could be better.
Because they've got one guy youknow in DC, you know kind of
the sports center stuff.
He does kind of a littlehalftime thing in between the
first segment and the secondsegment.
You've got the one guy in thebooth, you've got one guy kind

(01:10:50):
of down with the players likeyou would on a sideline.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
But no other person does one in the booth.
Give me two.
Yeah, you've got to have two inthe booth so they can bounce
off each other.
It's just easier.
It's easier to conversation.
The number one thing that golfneeds to realize in any sport
really, but definitely teamsports, when you're going to go
into the team sport world.
Yeah, the competition has to begood.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Well, so if we, if we looked at the first week,
there's great viewership.
They actually have now reportedthere was a bunch of nfl owners
in attendance.
They're already looking atexpansion.
They're wanting to add some ofthe live golf guys.
They're wanting to bring insome other different people.
They're wanting to put four orfive more arenas across the
country, and that that's my nextthing I was wanting to go to.

(01:11:30):
That may help If you are a teambased in Texas or a team based
in California but you never havea home match.
What's the point?
Oh, I said that from thebeginning.
Like, every team needs to havetheir own arena, because that's
what a fan wants to be behindwhen it's.
I can go to my local arena andwatch them play well, that was

(01:11:53):
my thought with the jupiter team, would that?
be, kind of a small town, it'sso jupiter's fairly close
because it's in palm beachgardens, is where they're
holding everything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
So they're, they're not far so they can kind of be
the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
That'd be fine yeah, that could be fine, but they
played la tonight.
Next week you have atl playing,then you've got a team in
Boston and it's like, well,you're never going to go there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Yeah, you have to go there, and I think you need to
start selling team gear.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Well, so they started that.
They actually pushed thattonight.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
But the golfers need to wear team gear.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
PGA Superstore is kind of the home of this new
team stuff, but every singlegolfer matched in color with
their own personal stuff.
Tiger wearing Sunday red, maxHoma had on red because their
colors were red, so he waswearing red.
But he's wearing Puma.
Kisner is with Wilson, of allpeople, and you know he's

(01:12:44):
wearing red.
At one point I thought LA hadfive people because they looked
the exact same as the ref.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
He was dressed the exact same and I was like what
is going on?
So it sounds like right now.
You know they're still going togo on, but if they make this
work and the teams I thinkthere's potential.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
They just got to make some changes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
So how does it?
I'm curious to see what itlooks like when you know your
team, your four or five it is.
You know your team, jupiter.
Okay, now you're going out tothis course next weekend and
you're playing against eachother, yeah, so what does?

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
that look like.
So it's still very individualand these guys play so much golf
together it's not really thatbig of a deal like they're
they're gonna.
They know how to competedifferently, because even then
you can tell watching this theyare not in tournament mode.
Like they are out on the courseon a four-day event.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Like they're not speaking wouldn't be better if
they was uh, no, it would notget worse.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I I think if they got in tournament mode it'd be more
quiet, like right now.
They're at least kind of.
There's a few little lines thatthey throw at each other or
joking around like that's good,you know, that's the stuff I
want to hear.
But I don't want to sit thereand listen to four straight
minutes of them talking aboutthis is the club, here's how
it's going to roll out, likelike I like that stuff.
But as a just fan of golf,people don't want to listen to

(01:13:56):
that.
Like they don't care thatyou're hitting a six iron
instead of a seven iron becauseyou need that little bit extra
roll.
They just want to see you hit agood shot.
They don't care well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
I said it's got to be good.
Teams competition's got to begood.
I said we need a competitive begood, Like I said we need a
competitive match.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
We've not had one yet .
It's only been two weeks andit's been a blowout both weeks.
As soon as we can get acompetitive one, maybe it'll
make it a little bit better.
But I think one thing golf alsohas to realize there are not
big personalities in golf, likethere's not a ton of big
personalities, but they'recreating the stage.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
so who's going to step up?
That I don't know, Because ifyou're somebody who's not
well-known or whatever, here'syour opportunity to get on live.
Tv and put your personality outthere.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
They have all the big-name guys right now, other
than the guys that are at Live.
All the big PGA guys areinvolved.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
None of those guys are big personality guys.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Well, they need to go find somebody that's maybe not
a big name but has somepersonality and throw on the end
of these teams.
Well, so to me I'm almost likegive them a coach, a celebrity
coach or somebody that should beinteresting.
Like you, you put like a shanegillis because just because we
talked about him earlier, acomedian as the coach, you've
already made it better.
Yep, just because the stuffthat he's going to come out and
say they probably can't use himbecause he may not be
necessarily Disney friendly, youknow being an OBS team.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
That's true, but at that point, what's the coach?
They're not really coachinganything, they're just the
cheerleader.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
No, but I mean you could still have it as, like you
know, technically, that coachis given the lineup Because,
like, they go into individuals,because the first one is
three-man alternate shot, youplay what is it?
Eight, nine holes and then youswitch over to individuals.
So kind of, let them do thelineup, Let them do a coin flip,

(01:15:39):
see who goes for like littlethings to make it feel like it's
an actual coach.
But that could throw somepersonality in there, because
right now it doesn't have muchpersonality other than hey, it's
cool, there's a lot of lights,it's technology.
What else do we have?
Yeah, like I need somethingelse.
Yeah, it's got to be fun that'swhat I was hoping for this is
going to be fun.
It's it's I.
I keep saying it's gotpotential.

(01:15:59):
It really does.
They just got to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Well, we'll see where it goes, because I mean, really
, you know, college football'swinding down, uh, nfl's winding
down, um, you know what are wegoing to watch soon?
We've got college basketballobviously going on, but I'm
probably going to watch it.
We got through the holidaysfinally.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
A lot of stuff going on in the holidays so that's
tough it is, and we've had someI think you mentioned earlier a
little bit of snow now.
So it kind of feels weird.
We're not that far past theholidays but everything's kind
of slowed down and now we havesnow and and it's really weird
to me um kind of getting back inthe groove of everything after
holidays.
I think it was weird becauseholidays were in the middle of

(01:16:40):
the week this year.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
That's a little bit tough and I'm still trying kind
of on both ends, but then trynot to at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
You kind of had two weeks full of holidays, instead
of like one week, yeah, whichyou normally have, and and so I
agree with that, trying to justkind of hard.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
You feel like you're fighting your way back out of it
.
Yeah, it almost gets you alittle bit of a funk, because
it's then it's colder and youjust you feel slower and you
don't want to do as much.
I'm already counting down tospring like we need need spring
weather here I mean um, thelittle like the, those few days
that you get, and it's likepeaks in the 50s, it's like it's
.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
I just I just need that that summer not summer, but
the, the sun and the warmth,and I actually need all that
back every year, for whateverreason it feels like sickness
goes to the family right aroundthe holidays of course, and I
don't know if it's goingeverywhere doing things, school,
you know cold weather, um, so,like even this year, you know we
always go to like the christmaslights yeah, I mean you the

(01:17:29):
drive-through things and allthat.
Um, this year we didn't goduring the holidays and we kind
of waited till after all theholidays, okay, and we went over
and so it was.
It was kind of weird, to behonest with you, because there's
like nobody there.
Christmas lights after christmasit was because there was no
christmas spirit.
Um, and you, normally you gotall these cars and you're
waiting in line and all this andwe, we get there and there's

(01:17:51):
like nobody there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
You're just driving through by yourself.
It was kind of that way.
Did you even have to pay?
Was it even open, or did youjust drive through?
We went?

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
I think there's like two days left, so they go a
little longer after the holidays, and I'm not sure why.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Yeah, that feels weird to me, like I almost say
New Year's Eve I think I saw oneother car, maybe something like
that.
So one other weirdo decided togo with you.
So this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
It costs, I want to say, $45 to go through this
thing.
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Yeah, it's per car $45 to go, look at lights $45,.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
And so the kids have been wanting to go and we didn't
go to holidays Pay me $15, I'llshine a flashlight in your eyes
out in the yard.
That's ridiculous, so on theway there, one of my kids fell
asleep.
Okay, the middle one fellasleep, so we get there.
He's upset, he's tired, sure.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Lights are bright now because he's been sleeping,
he's seen all these.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Christmas lights he's upset, so he's really playing
on his iPad.
More he's looking at Christmaslights.
We've got my oldest with herphone out filming everything, so
that she can show her friends.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
So she's not even, she's not really in the moment
she's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
I've got the little one upset because he's cold,
because the windows are down sowe can see the lights better,
right?
So at one point I was about todo 50 mile an hour through there
to get out, because it was justlike at that are we here for.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
So at that point I'll pay another $45, just get out
of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Here it was and I didn't.
We tried to enjoy it.
You know nobody's there, youcan kind of take your time.
Stop look whatever you want,but I felt like we just threw it
in 10 minutes, right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
And I come out of this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
But when you're there by yourself, you're just
rolling through when I came outof there $45 for my kids to just
not even care about it Tocomplain and be upset.
And we had told the kids youknow, hey, this is what we're
going to go do, and soafterwards we get on the
interstate and we're coming backInterstate.
I call it interstate.

(01:19:57):
It's not really inter, I guess,but it's a main four-lane
highway yeah, and we get on theroad and we're going to the road
and my little one he's like,are we going to see the lights?
Yeah, I already did.
I'm like we've been there.
We spent 45, drove literallylike an hour away to go to these
lights.
My kids didn't care.
My little one doesn't even knowwe already went.
So next year I don't know ifI'm going, you know, to be
honest with you, or maybe I needto do it during Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Maybe earlier would help.
I'm not sure.
Do you guys go to those often?
We have in the past?
We didn't this year.
We normally do.
But see, I mean my little one.
He's three, so in the past hewasn't really paying attention.
Anyways, he would have probablyenjoyed it.

(01:20:40):
But again, that age, theirattention span is not crazy.
So so no, I really don't knowif that would have been worth it
this year.
But after you tell me how muchit cost, we'll sit outside and
look from the road.
That that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
So we went several years ago and you know it's all
about giving the kids more.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
And the two youngest were even younger then.
And we get there and there'sthis huge line and they really
want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
And we're like, oh, man, we can't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
They're little, they're not going to sit here,
they're in their car seats orwhatever.
Yeah, so, yeah, so we got overin the fast lane side.
It was like double that that wepaid.
I think we paid like 70 to gothrough this thing, just so
because the kids were not goingto sit there for no two hours or
whatever was going to be inthis line, and and so we got
through a whole lot faster.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
I absolutely love my kids.
I'm not paying 70.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Look at christmas it was, it was crazy we'll, we'll
go drive around neighborhoods.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
I was thinking that too.
That's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Now you know we put up some Christmas lights on our
house this year but I didn'tfeel like looking back at now
we're past the holiday, lookingback I don't feel like I saw
that many Christmas lights andstuff like usual.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
I didn't really go looking this year, though, like
I feel like we typically have.
I mean, there's a good bit oflights, there's a bunch, but
yeah, so that's the thing.
If you're listening and youknow you've stuck with us and
you went and looked at theselights, how much are you
comfortable paying?
Because I'm not comfortablepaying $45.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
That's outrageous.
In the past I haven't thoughtmuch about it because I thought
I got my money's worth.
After this year there's no shot.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
I don't want to go back Like, if you tell me $20 a
car, all right, I'll do that.
Like you know, for my familythat's basically five bucks a
person.
Like I get it, but you'retelling me it's going to be over
$10 a person.
Yeah, to drive through and lookat lights.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
I mean, I had five people in my car so it was nuts,
you know.
Pretty close to that and I feellike if it's going to be after
Christmas, like that, likediscounted or something, like
nobody's there anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Like help me out a little bit.
I just I can't, I can't imaginepaying that for like don't get
me wrong, I'm all forexperiences, I'm all for, you
know, do fun stuff, but thatjust seems outrageous.
You know and I know the priceof things are crazy nowadays.
Everything has gone up in everyway.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
I don't want to deter anybody from going if you've
never been, because it's unique.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
I would just tell you to save your $45.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
But you turn the radio on and the lights are
going to the music and they'replaying Christmas songs and
stuff.
And I've been to some biggerones in bigger cities.
There's one over in Charlottethat you drive.
It feels like forever.
You've got some stuff in themiddle of it that you can stop
and see Santa when Santa's there, and they've got a movie
playing and all that.
All that's cool and so it'sdefinitely an experience.

(01:23:22):
But I came out of that againwith just I'm trying to take my
kids, we didn't get to go duringthe holidays Okay, let's go,
they're going to enjoy this andquickly realized yeah, maybe
next year we'll do somethingdifferent.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
That's just that's too much for me.
I can't.
I can't imagine paying that.
And don't worry, we've.
I'm sure I've paid more forsomething dumber, but it just
feels very, very greedy tocharge $45 a car for that Like I
.
Just I have a hard time withthat.
So so again if, if you, any ofyou listeners you go, do that

(01:23:57):
kind of stuff, feel free.
You know we're, we're onInstagram, facebook, you know
all all the stuff.
Leave us a comment.
What are you comfortable payingfor something like that?
Because I'm definitely not goodwith 45, that that's.
That's a bit much.
Maybe 30 I could roll with, butonce we get above that, I feel
like we're just.
We're just a money grab I'm withyou, it's, and then it makes me

(01:24:20):
feel like I need to open up myown because, like, if you're
getting 45 a car, like you'regonna make a killing, you know,
but something you're like youryour yard rip off some lights
and just drive through here.
Listen, I don't have space onthe other side of my house to
make a road.
I'll figure it out, figure itout I'll take some bushes out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Just drive through the range in the winter we'll
close down the range you do adrive through christmas lights.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
45 a car is is nuts.
Yeah, yeah, I have a reallyhard time with that.
I don't, I don't think I coulddo that well, I just thought it
was interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
You know, like I said , trying to get past the
holidays and you, you kind ofget through all that stuff, and
then here I still spent 45 forlights.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
But I'm with you there so well, I don't like it,
but but kind of where I want togo from that we mentioned we
have a new segment, we, we'regonna, we're gonna open into our
new segment.
So we do, I, I done forgotabout this I knew you did.
I knew you did because as soonit I saw, I saw the face, I was
like, oh yeah, so we're going tostart something this week.

(01:25:16):
It's called love it or hate it,typically, as you've seen,
david hates a lot of things, sothis week I'm going to let him
lead off with his, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
I want.
But that just goes right alongwith what you're saying.
I was going to say yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
And you can't use that.
You hate that statement as yourhate it.
So, basically, we're going tohave something that we love from
the week, something we hatefrom the week.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
David this week very easily, is picking what he hated
for the week.
Listen, I'm more excited tohear what you like, because
maybe it's something good, maybeit's something interesting, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
You'll hate it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Either way, you'll find a reason not to like it Can
we have you go first, so thatmaybe that can be my hate.
Whatever you like, I'll justhate.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
No, because you would try to use that.
So I'm going to make you go.
First You'll just be like Ihate that you said that, and
then we're done with it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
We're done with it, but here's what's going to
happen, though there's going tobe a lot of things that I hate
that people agree with.
Okay, because I'm not as crazyas I sound.
I know I sound crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
You're crazier than you sound.
I am crazy, okay.
But here's the thing there maybe people that agree to an
extent, but there's so manythings I've heard over the years
that you hate or that will goto a restaurant and I'm like,
why did he even order tea?
Because he, you know he's gonnahate it and he's gonna have to
ask for dr pepper and thenthey're not gonna have it.
They're gonna say we have mrpibb and he's gonna hate that.

(01:26:37):
So he's gonna end up with acoke or the coke to begin with
no, no, you gotta try it iscrazy.
It's like every time, like I canlike.
Oh, now we had a horribleexperience, that's the most
recent.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
You're long, I mean this could be my.
Hate it right now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Me speaking.
It's not You're hating mespeaking.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
No, the people at restaurants don't know how to
make sweet tea.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Yeah, but sweet tea's not big across the country it's
a southern thing it should be,and I'm in the south okay, we
are in the south.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
I got to say about that.
Okay, here's what we did.
Hated of the week Go ahead.
Here's what I did.
Went to Walmart the other day.
Okay, I'm driving to theparking lot and I have literally
a specific way I go intoWalmart.
Every time I go into Walmart.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
And I feel like I'm there.
So you're telling me you'realready the problem, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
No, I feel like I'm there at walmart.
But so I get the specific way,I go in and and I go around
there and I get up to the front.
I'm coming around trying tofind a parking spot and right in
the front of the door there's apickup truck sitting there with
the turn signal on.
Okay, and they're just sittingthere.
And now you've got a car or twobehind them and I'm trying to
come around the side of them andturn and I can't turn because

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they're all there and I'm likewhat are they doing?
And then I realize there's somecar sitting at a parking spot
like one of the first two spotsthat may be close to getting in
their car and backing out.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Okay, so this person and I've seen this before.
Here's the thing.
It's not like we're in theholidays still, where it's super
packed, and you're just tryingto find anything Like.
We're past all that and this isnot a busy Walmart.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
It is not, but I've seen it plenty of times.
You're going through theparking lot and you're backed up
and you don't even know why.
And you're backed up and youdon't even know why, right, and
there's a car, five cars up, whosaw the lady putting her
groceries in her car and she'sstill 10 minutes from getting
back in and out.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
But they want that spot, but they want that spot
and they're holding everybody up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
So that is my hated of this week People that hold up
the whole line waiting for aspot.
Go four spots down and walk alittle bit, It'll be okay.
You'll still get there fasterthan waiting on that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Now, that's not wrong , is it?
I get it.
I mean, here's the thing, myview on it.
When I go to Walmart,somebody's in the way,
somebody's going to be there.
I just ignore it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
I'm just there, I just hang around.
I can see the way you'retalking right now.
You're one of those people,aren't you?

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
That waits on a parking spot, that waits talking
right now.
You're one of those people,aren't you?
That waits on a parking spot?
Waits on a parking spot?
No, because I'm I'm one, I'llgo park the end of the, at the
end of the parking lot like forhours.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
I'll park way down there near the road.
I don't care, I don't want topark and come and walk up like
I'll park next people.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
I won't.
It doesn't really matter to me,but I'm not waiting on a
parking spot just because itmight be three spots closer than
the next one, like that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
That's that a little, you know excessive listen, I
don't even care if it's 10 spotscloser.
They're not in their car.
If that spot is not open, go onby.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
But now I'll tell you this if I see you behind me and
I see that you're alreadyirritated I'm waiting on that
spot.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
I'm gonna wait and I'm gonna wait and I'm gonna
wait.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
I may even get out and help them pack their car and
then talk to them for a minuteand make you wait even longer.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
When you step out, I'll take your door off, going
around you, because I am notwaiting.
That's one.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
You're not really sure, yet I am not waiting At
that point.
Yeah, I mean, I would haveeither backed up or went around
a different way.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Now I want to say one caveat to this.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Okay, if you have a medical reason, I understand
that you're waiting for ahandicapped spot.
If there's nothing remotelyclose, well, so so the thing I
have to say about that ourwalmart is not a busy one.
It is not.
We don't have a super center,we don't like.
This is just a small, normalwalmart, so in a town of not
that many people, so there'splenty of spots, it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
You know, some people feel like they need to be three
spots from the door instead ofand it's spots from the door,
and it's worth waiting 10minutes to save that 20 second
walk.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
That's what they do so well for them to then go in
walmart, just walk around right,they gotta save their energy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
No, I it.
It really happened to me and itcome back to me and it really
bothered me that people do this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
But um, so I really, I really wish this is one of the
first times I've wished that weare recording the podcast
because, like david telling thestory, you can see how much it's
bothering him, like you can seelike he's reliving it now and
he's not happy about it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
I'm one that I show my emotions most of the time,
true?
Um, if I, as we know, if I hateit, I'll tell you I hate it.
If I like it, I like it.
Like you can see, I'm nothiding nothing, so let's don't
put that on a video, maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
No, it's going to Eventually, that's coming 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
We all know this is.
They can hear my voice.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
They don't need to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
No, they need to see it too.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
See the enjoyment that I get out of watching him
get angry over reliving it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
So now, as part of Love it, hate it, we're going to
have love holding people up inthe parking lot.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
No, that's not what I'm going to say.
Actually, my love, it is kindof a simple one.
But you kind of made thestatement we're starting to wind
down from NFLs and playoffs,college football but the one
thing about right now, as asports fan, what I love, there
is a game or multiple gamesevery single night.

(01:32:13):
I mean, currently we've got NBAis happening, college
basketball is happening, westill have college football that
we're we're discussing and we,you know, have another game
coming up.
Nfl playoffs had a game lastnight.
They had plenty of games overthe weekend.
Hockey's currently going.
You've got TGL, the start ofthe PGA Tour season.
So as a sports fan, there is somuch happening.

(01:32:37):
So you can't say, if you likesports and not everybody likes
all those sports Like, for me,I'm not really a hockey fan, but
there is something on, but it'sa sport there is something on.
So as a sports fan, I love kindof this time of year where
you've got so much bleed over,which you don't really have in
the other seasons as much,because summer into fall you

(01:32:59):
don't really have it.
Spring into summer everything'sreally dying down.
But right here in winter it'slike we've got all the big push
of football.
Ending Basketball is right.
The conference grind reallygood ball games.
Good ball games you know in.
You know NBA is feels like areally long season.
You know they go quite a whilebut you still have.
You have games of something.

(01:33:20):
So I love the fact that I canturn my TV on ESPN and there's
something I can watch.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
You know, I don't know that I'm going to say this
very often, but I can get behindthat.
Love it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
You heard it here first, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
And I'll tell you this I've known David quite a
while, and that may be the firstor second time he's agreed with
a statement that I've said, soI'm going to cherish that, brian
.
I need you to clip this momentand we need to keep this one
because, it's for sure, like I'mgoing to remember, it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
We found something I actually enjoy.
You had to say it first, butthat's true.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
I would say, yeah, I had to put it in his mind that
that was that was happening.
You know, he was just morethinking well, I hate that
there's not more well, so yeah,that's not a bad idea either.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
You know what you said, that I just.
I just keep putting more andmore into it they could always,
always be more Making it moredifficult.
I mean, you're right aboutsports coming up, but I don't
want college football to end.
So no, of course I don't wantit to end.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
But I mean at the same time I love March Madness
so much I love the tournament.
It's such a hectic, chaotictime.
All the good ball games Like.
I'm so excited about that.
Now, what I hate about that isthat means now it's over, so I
don't like that.
But at the same time we've hadPGA Tour came back, they've had
two Hawaii tournaments, gettingready to have some really big

(01:34:39):
California tournaments.
We're into some really goodevents.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
I haven't even turned golf on yet.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
I don't feel like I should be golfing yet Well, so
the first two events were inHawaii.
They open in Hawaii every year.
They kind of have their westcoast push and then they'll end
up making their way into Florida, then back across a little bit.
But you've got American Expresscoming up, you've got Pebble
Beach Pro-Am, you've got somereally good tournaments all here

(01:35:06):
in the next few weeks.
So I'm really excited aboutthat, hoping to get to see a
Scotty Scheffler come back andyou know his hand surgery, all
the stuff he's had issues with,and you know want to see some
good golf.
But at the same time, like Isaid, in between so many good
basketball games Like the SECconference games are already

(01:35:27):
crazy Cheering for every team.
But Duke and ACC to you know towin.
So it's a really good time ofyear we do have a lot of for it
to be such a crappy time to beoutside.
It's a great time as a sportsfan.
There's so many things to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
You mentioned about Duke.
I don't think they're going tolose.
Who's in ACC going to beat them?
I don't know, maybe theythey're there, unfortunately, I
don't know.
I don't know, maybe they'rethere, unfortunately, I don't
know.
But maybe we can set it up thatthis is a big super team that
loses the first round again.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
I would love it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
That'd be nice, because they've done it plenty
of times.
I'm sure there's some Duke fansthat listen to this.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Will's a Duke fan.
You keep forgetting that youcan't three-button your way out
of that Will.
Okay, You're a Duke fan.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
I was just thinking when I get on PS5 tonight I
might have to be on differentteams Because he was talking
about today.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
He's talking about how much he loves it, and you
know, of course, Will's a bigbasketball fan, but he is a Duke
fan, so that's where me and himhave a struggle in our
friendship because of this.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
Yeah, I didn't know that that's tough.
I'm going to have to try to getover that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Yeah, I mean mean well.
So funnily enough I had afriend of mine I text a few
weeks ago when we were talkingabout um South Carolina Illinois
bowl game and I picked.
I picked Illinois and I get atext the next day.
I hate you USC for life likejust you know game.
All about the Game cocks.
And then they got whooped and Iwas like that made it even
better, but I it just to getthat comment of like I love the

(01:36:58):
fact that you picked up on itimmediately and knew who I was
talking about and just rolledwith it you know that that's the
one I was trying to be quiet on, because never know if I might
need some help so did you happento say if uh, you know he
helped'd help me?
out if I needed it.
David didn't make the comment.
I did and you know I did.
Yeah, I would make it again.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Oh no, that's funny.
What is friends for if youcan't make fun of them right?

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
A hundred percent.
A hundred percent Now it's theold saying of who needs enemies
when you've got friends likethese, Because I get more
ridiculous comments from myfriends than I ever did from
people that didn't like me yeah100%.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
If we're not giving you a hard time, we don't like
you.
So.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Yeah, just sit there and think, if you're that person
that we don't give a hard time,we may not like you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Yeah, I may not like you very much, I like you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
David hates you.
That's just part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
You know one thing I forgot to mention that I am
going to love about collegefootball.
Winding down Watching the Texasgame the other day, I've seen
more of their coach than I careto ever see in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
Sarkeesian.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Yeah, and they kept calling him.
You know, obviously, Sark,that's his nickname.
The camera was on him so much.
I know so much about him whatthey talked about and I can tell
you all his facial features.
I could pick him out of thelineup for sure.
Now, I mean, it was like Iswear it was every well so I had
a.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
I had a topic that I wanted to go back real quick.
In college football we areseeing a bunch of people enter
the transfer portal now.
Bunch of teams, their seasonsare ended, they're jumping in.
There's the big one.
Well, so here's the thing, andI'm really trying to figure this
out because theoretically, theway the rules are wrote, you

(01:38:36):
can't reach out and talk to akid until he's entered the
portal.
Okay so Georgia's quarterbackwas hurt, carson Beck.
He had surgery like he's goingto be good.
He's supposed to be back.
Before even workouts are over,he makes the statement which we
all kind of saw coming.
He's entering the portal.
Less than 24 hours later he'sgot a $4 million deal at Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
Yep, when do you think this happened?

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
There's no telling, obviously before he got the
portal.
There's no way it happens toeverybody.
There's no way you're tellingme they figured that out in 24
hours.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
No, it didn't, but do you think he was talking while
he's still playing at Georgia,or after he got hurt, or after
they lost the game and they're?

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
coming out.
No, I, 1 million percent thinkhe had been talking to him for a
while.
Well, because there was reportsabout that, like you can't, you
can't tell me that you're gonnaoffer potentially offer a kid
four million and you've not beentalking for a bit.
Because if you then offer thatand he's like, why the heck
would I do that?
Then you look dumb.
But but it was so quick,wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
I guess this is a kind of a loose number interview
a kid before you offer him fourmillion dollars well, it's
recruiting.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
I mean you're still recruiting somebody like the
recruiting.
I mean you're still recruitingsomebody Like the transfer
portal as much.
You're still recruiting currentplayers.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Well, but I feel like used to you was recruiting,
trying to get the player to cometo you obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
You wanted to entice them to come to you, but now,
when you're offering $4 million,you also need to make sure this
person is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
Well, so for Miami they did that with Cam Ward.
They paid for him to come fromWashington State, had a really
good year, broke some recordsGoing to the NFL.
They knew they only had him forone year.
Now they're going to get CarsonBeck kind of the same way.
Don't think Carson Beck is aCam Ward.
Don't get me wrong.
I think Ward was way betterthan quarterback.

(01:40:26):
But it's just really odd to meto see, literally less than 24
hours and me and Brian wereactually messaging back and
forth I sent him the post.
I was like, hey, finallyhappened.
We were talking about it Beckentered and the next day, like I
said, less than 24 hours, I'msending Brian, just committed to
Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
It happened really quick.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
I saw it happen.
And then the other big name,because we've been talking about
it, the potential $6 millionman, Quinn Ewers, declaring for
the draft.
Did he really?
He already said I don't.
I didn't see that Well, so he'snot 100% done it, but he said I
don't see myself playing collegefootball next year.
So for him, he is claiming thathe's paid no attention, that he

(01:41:11):
knows nothing about any of that, which is very possible,
because you can talk about thesekids and they never know it,
but he is saying nope, he said Ithink it's time.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
I was wondering if he'd end up back at Ohio State
or anything like that, becausehe was there at one time and
then they just beat him.
It'd be kind of weird to goback, I guess, after the
sequence of events.
So to me he doesn't fit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Consequence of events .
So to me he doesn't fit.
Like we're still seeing at OhioState, you need the guy that
can be mobile.
Doesn't have to be, but kind ofcan.
Ewers has potential but he'sjust not that kind of guy.
Howard is actually extremelyquick, he's a fast quarterback.
Once he gets out there he canmove.
Yeah, we've seen that You'vehad had like the cj stroud

(01:41:57):
didn't really like to run butcould like when you needed it
they can do it.
And ewers is still more.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
That pocket guy is mobile in the pocket, but not
not quite as much, so I don'tthink it would have fit.
So is he kind of being pushedout with uh manning right behind
him, like they're saying, hey,you're gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
So so I've I've believed for a while.
Either ewers transfers or hegoes the the draft.
It's not his team.
Next year Arch Manning istaking over.
Like, whether they want it ornot, like it has to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Because he's not going to sit again, Because he's
the pocket-style passer you'retalking about.
He might fit the NFL betterthan he actually does college.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
So maybe that's a good move.
Maybe I just don't know thathe's got the skill for it.
Like in a year that, like rightnow you're pushing Shadur
Sanders, you're pushing some ofthese guys.
He's kind of like a fifth orsixth option.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
I don't think he goes in as a starter.
By no means.
I think it's some time.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
No, here's the thing, Somebody will draft him.
I mean there's seven rounds,six rounds, whatever it is.
I can't remember anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
I don't really watch the draft after day one.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
So you just don't really.
It's not as impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Well, even in the NFL draft, but somebody will draft
him.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
There are so many players going to the NFL draft
that I've never heard of it'srandom people from a little
small school somewhere, yeah,but these guys are recruiting,
they're doing their scouting,they're doing all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
You mentioned Sanders .
Are you seeing Deion talking toJerry Jones a little bit?

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Jones a little bit.
The Cowboys job is open andDeion right now is kind of the
leading front runner.
Is that going?

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
to make you like him more.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
So I've said it before, I'm not a huge NFL guy,
but I was born in Dallas, so myfamily is Cowboy fans.
Grew up Cowboy fan, I grew upbeing a Troy Aitman fan.
Troy Aitman, emmitt Smith,michael Irvin it's that time of
when they were good.

(01:43:36):
Yeah, Well, it was America'steam Like that's what it was
Like, you know, the Super Bowlin 95.
Well, god, that feels so longago now.
It was a long time ago, but itwas.
Yeah, I feel old, I feel veryold, but I am a Cowboys fan and

(01:43:58):
I know that people get a lot offlack for that, because the
Cowboys are really great atchoking.
They've struggled Every year.
It's like oh, they're comingback.
I don't like the Dak Prescottcontract.
I think we're wasting money.
I don't think he's thequarterback of the future.
I think we have a lot ofproblems on the team and we're
not fixing them.
I don't think Jerry's the bestthing for us, but Jerry Jones is
the owner, so we're stuck.
It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
You know, I've said when we've talked about Deion
before, he's a verycontroversial person.
You either love him or you hatehim.
True, and I've said before whenhe was a player, primetime
loved it.
When he's a coach, he's a bitmuch for me, colorado coach.
I'm starting to think, though,if he goes back to the Cowboys
as a coach, I'll be okay withprimetime back, even as a coach,

(01:44:41):
like the antics, because you'renow a professional.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
What I think is funny because I had that same
conversation with my brother,Brad, and he's big on the Dion
train, loves some Dion, whichmakes sense.
Brad likes those kind ofpersonalities.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Brad is that kind of personality?
Right, I could see him beingthat way.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
Yeah, I think so to an extent.
Obviously, he doesn't have theego that some of those guys have
.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
I was actually thinking about my Brad's a
little more humble, not to thatpoint, but yes.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
I don't know that Brad would call himself humble,
but yes, I see what you'resaying, but he's a big Deion fan
.
But Brad has also been a MiamiDolphins fan for his whole life.
Love Marino just always hasbeen Zach Thomas Taylor, some of
those guys.
I wonder if I can pull him overto some Cowboys, because of.

(01:45:33):
Deion, because he's sopolarizing.
I know Brad's going to likethat, so I wonder if he would.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
Are you going to be okay with his antics, being a
Cowboys fan if he's constantly?

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
for lack of a better word running his mouth.
When it comes to the pro sideof it, win us some ball games,
I'll be okay with it.
It feels different in college,and I know that's so weird to
say.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
It just feels different in college but now
we're starting to pay collegeplayers and stuff, so maybe we
was wrong.
Maybe we should be okay with incollege too hang on, hang on,
hang on, hang on.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
You know I've got my hand raised.
I'm gonna see this brian again,I need you to to clip that,
because David might have justsaid that he was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
I said maybe Listen it's close enough.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
It's the closest I've ever seen it, so we got to take
that run with it.
This is a first for me.
Guys Like I'm in shock at thispoint.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Maybe we're going to get there, but I still don't
like a college coach that isthat arrogant, especially when
you haven't done anything.
But now when you go to the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
It feels different.
I don't know if he's the besthire Because he's not really
proven.
Nfl is a different ball game.
These are adults Now.
I think there's potential thatthose guys will resonate with
him.
The problem is they're going todraft his son To be a backup.
You can't pay Dak Prescott whatthey're paying him and him not,
I know.

(01:46:57):
I think projected right now he'sNew England or Las Vegas,
somewhere in that range.
Currently they're saying theCowboys may draft Jeanty from
Boise State From Boise State.
I don't think that's a bad pick.
The issue is running backs area dime a dozen.
We've seen good running backscan really help Saquon going to

(01:47:23):
Philadelphia that's been hugefor them.
That helped him a ton.
Henry at the Ravens that's beenhuge for them.
So I think a good running backdoes help.
But there's so many defensiveissues that I can't think about
a running back right now.
There's just too many issues.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
The NFL, to me, is becoming like the NBA a little
bit, with it's an offensive game.

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
It is Nobody worries on defense anymore.
Scoring points is more fun.
It's exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
I agree, I'm looking.
So we had what wild card gamesthis past weekend?

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
well, so we we had the one wild card game last
night um los angeles.
Rams and the vikings moved outof la because of the fires.
They actually had their game inarizona that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
I saw that that was.
Uh, I think they sent planesover to get the team and
everything, so that was prettycool to see.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
So at one point I had so my pick what I want, not
what I necessarily think isgoing to happen, but what I want
.
I want Detroit to win a SuperBowl.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
You know, I kind of thought that same thing today
looking at the games In mylifetime lifetime.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
I remember them being 0 and 16.
I would love to be able to sayI saw them 0 and 16 and also saw
them win a super bowl.
I just feel like that'd be areally cool thing that'd be a
big turnaround now.
I don't think it's gonna happenbecause the kansas city chiefs
are the nfl's team patrickmahomes.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Yeah, but here's, here's another polar figure.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
I'm not a Mahomes fan , I'm not either.
But what I'll say?
I want to see Detroit andBaltimore or Detroit and Buffalo
Like.
That to me is the game I wantto see, because I think those
are really good teams.
I think they're exciting teams,detroit's first got to beat the
Redskins.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
I mean the Commanders , commanders, sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:49:08):
Yep, they're always going to be that to me, I don't
care.
It's hard not to, becausethat's what we grew up with.
Chiefs, big Texans, you know,listen, texans are no joke.
That could be a tough game, butthe refs will call something in
their favor.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
I feel like this year and you can correct me if I'm
wrong, because I'm not a big NFLperson and I'm sure you will
correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Oh, you know it.
You know, if you're wrong, I'llcorrect it.
Yeah, you like doing that.
If I can find a way, I'll do it, Even if I'm right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
if you can find some kind of angle to feel like it,
you will.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
I know.
Okay, so that was 100% facts.
Continue See.

Speaker 2 (01:49:44):
Yeah, but we don't have any.
I guess horrible teams hangingaround still no.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
so I think all of our division winners were solid
teams, yeah because sometimesyou get these divisions that the
division itself isn't good andyou get a team that's barely
breaking even, that's coming outand winning the division In
recent memory.
I think of the NFC, southBuccaneers, falcons, panthers

(01:50:19):
who else is there?

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
I'm not going to be any help on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Yeah, I'm trying to remember.
I'm drawing a blank.
Somebody's going to be mad atme for drawing a blank there,
but that division has beenpretty rough, just not winning
any ball games.
Still, somebody makes a playoffbecause they're the division
winner and it's like under 500or at 500.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
I'm like I hate seeing that no, and you get a
really good second, third placeteam in another division.
Who gets left out?

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
so now that they expanded the wild card, you have
additional teams in.
Now that they're up to 14, theone on each side gets a buy.
It's helped a little bit, um,but it's still like, like kind
of what he said with college Iwant to see the best teams.
I don't care if you win yourdivision, you still have to have
the best records.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
I want the best records there and this is the
time of year that I I willfollow nfl a little bit more
maybe turn on a game here andthere.
Playoffs's playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:51:09):
It's more exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
Better football.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
It means more to these guys Because they want to
win A Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
That means a lot.
I never watched hockey In lastyear, for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
You got into the Stanley Cup, we got into the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
Stanley Cup.
I was like, oh, this isexciting.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
Yeah, we were at the range and you made me watch A
Dallas Stars game and I debatedon.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Just you should have been rooting for him, lay out in
the field.
You just said he was born inDallas.
It's a hockey game.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
That's your hockey team.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
I'm so bored I'm going to buy you a Dallas Stars
hockey jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
For it to sit in the back of my closet.
Good job, you can root for himtoo.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
No, but the NFL.
Obviously I like football morethan hockey.
It's just nothing againsthockey, it's just what I like.
You know now getting into theplayoffs, like you said, it's
more exciting in this do or dietype thing.
It's a different thing.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
Well, but I'm the same way with the NBA.
I don't really have any desireto watch any NBA regular season.
It is so boring.
They don't play any defense.
It's like 150 to 150.
It's not fun.
But then you get in theplayoffs and it's like okay,
winning a championship means alot, whether it's somebody is
going to get a new contract orplaying their way on to a bigger

(01:52:15):
contract somewhere, or whateverit may be.
They get more locked in for it.
So then I can kind of getbehind it, cause it's like all
right, now we're going to seegood basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
I just feel like and I felt this way some of the
Stanley cup when I got into alittle bit seven games can be
too many.
I think we should cut that downa little bit.
That's a lot Because you'rejust you feel like you're
watching the same game.
In some instances, seven gamesin a row, the same two teams,
the same players.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
I like the seven game because I think about it in the
NBA playoffs when you go to agame seven.
There is nothing like that feel.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Wouldn't it be the same if there's game five?

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
no, because it's it's two additional games to get us
there.
We've seen them grind for thosetwo additional.
That it's like we have to havelongevity, we've got to be able
to stick to a game, we've got towork a game plan.
It's you have more film, youhave more growth, like.
To me.
It's like if you can getthrough a seven game series,
you've really done something.
So that's like some of theselower-level stuff and it's like,

(01:53:15):
well, our championship's.
A three-game series, that's notenough.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
Like three games.
You can't decide it.
I feel like five would bepretty good for me Well so like,
the first round is five.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Like the NBA playoffs , the first round's five.
No, I feel like there's timesthat's not enough.
Like the Warriors, a few yearsago Were up 3-1 and lost First
team to ever come back from a3-1.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
They lost 4-3.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
But it's like there's still that potential For a team
to just like.
Alright, now we've made ourpush, but if it was 5 games,
it's over.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
So it's like there's things that just happen.
If it's 5, then you can't getdown three to one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
You're right, you're lost.
So it's just I, I like, I dolike the seven, I like the fact
that it's.
It is a grind, and thenobviously for the league, they
make so much more money.
If they could make it an 11,they would yeah like it's just,
it's a money thing.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
It just gets a little boring to me.
I I don't mind, like for's veryrepetitive, so like for
basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
I definitely don't mind because I love basketball,
like it's just, I love watchinggood teams play let's get
college doing that, then Atleast three.
The tournament's different,it's a different feel.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
No, I do feel like Because, like, once you get into
a bracket it's differentBecause of seven games and NBA,
nhl, whatever, they probably getthe correct champion more than
college basketball does Moreoften than not Because it's a
one game.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
Yeah, but that's what I think makes college so
exciting and so polarizing isyou give, say, you take, the 64
team tournament and everythingis a best of three.
You're not going to get itwrong that often.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
That'd be too much.
I think, though, You'd have tohave less teams if you're going
to do best of three.
Correct you definitely would.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
But I'm just thinking like we made the comment Duke
going out in the first round, Iremember Duke-Buttonel Buttonel
can't beat them twice.
No, I agree, that was a one-off, or like a George Mason making
the runs that they did, or theyear that UConn and Kentucky
were in the championship as likean 8-9,.
It's like those teams wouldn'thave made it.

(01:55:14):
It doesn't happen, but that'swhat makes it fun, is it's like
our team has a chance becauseall we've got to do is win one
game.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
Oh, everybody has a chance in that tournament,
everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
We've now seen the 16 beat a 1 multiple times.
Before it was like hey, that'snever happened, never will, and
all of a sudden it happened.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
It's like nobody's safe no, you see some hot at the
right time you can make a runseen several, you know, seven,
eights, whatever.
Make it to final four.
Yeah, just because of that onegame if you can just, and that's
the chaos of it is to me was soexciting like I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
But it's also very different because college I feel
like all year we see goodbasketball or nba like the
season.
It's like you just don't reallycare that much.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
You need to win enough, but not everything.
I'm afraid that dilutes thechampionship a little bit,
because you wasn't the best team, you just got some games
together and made it through.
Now again, that can happen inNFL, it can happen in college
football.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
But it does go back to the statement you made who's
best right now?
They were best right now, Maybe.
So it's kind of a contradictorything.
It's hard to look at it thatway because if you say, well, I
want who's best right now, theteam that won is the best right
now because they made the run.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
I don't think they're the better team.
I think they pulled off onegame.
The same reason you don't wantNBA to even go down to five,
because you want to get thatbetter team they're going to
pull it out, better team they'regonna pull it out.

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
That's the same thing it's.
It's the way that they havetheir bracket laid out, like I.
Like before we started tonightI even talked about the nfl.
I hate how the brackets laidout.
You lay out a bracket but thenyou say number one plays the
lowest remaining seed.
Well, once you have the bracketlaid out, you play who's next,
like there's a list, it justkeeps.
It, keeps going, keeps going.
We shouldn't then almost reseedeverybody.
That makes no sense.
Yeah, they reseeded after thatfirst round, basically, yeah, so
I don't like that.

(01:56:51):
So that's where I'm like withcollege basketball.
I love the chaos, I love that.
You just have to get hot at theright moment.
It doesn't matter about onceyou got there.
You get hot, you play the bestbasketball.
You can win.
Nba the playoffs that bracket'snot set up that way.
Nba the playoffs that bracket'snot set up that way.

(01:57:12):
It would be really hard for itto be the same way because
there's way less teams in theleague.
There's way less spots.
It's just a very, verydifferent feel.
And again, that doesn't mean Iwant more NBA teams.
We've got like 30-something nowalready.
I don't even know where we'reat now.
Adding more and more and moreis not going to help.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
I think they will add more.

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
Oh, I think they're going to.
It's just I'm not saying I want50 more.
Like you, add four more cool,fine, I don't really care.

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
Let's add a few more and take it down to five game
series.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
Well, I think the NBA is in a bad spot.
I think they could even go lessgames throughout the season.
They play lot.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
That's why you don't care about some of them, because
it's one of 82.
Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
Well, I don't like, within the NBA, this whole idea
of load management.
That is the biggest joke to me.
You are paid to play sports Foryou to say that I'm going to
take off.
I'm one of the biggest names inthe sport.
I'm going to take off.
I'm one of the biggest names inthe sport, I'm going to take
nights off.
You're losing the league money.

(01:58:16):
Those guys are coming to watchyou.
They're not coming to watchthat guy on the end of the bench
.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
And shocker.
Here I'm going to disagree withyou a little bit, because if
I'm coming to watch it, yes, I'dhate that that guy's sitting
out, but you're playing for thefans.
But as a coach or GM or ownerwhoever I want to do what's best
for my team to go win thechampionship, and if that is
what's best, that's what I'mthere to do.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
But I don't think that's what's best, typically
these guys that you have a bunchof load management.
Those aren't the teams that win, because you're not getting the
same minutes, you're notgetting the same minutes, you're
not getting the same rotations.
It's messing up the flow ofeverything because then,
especially in nba, they come indressed dressed to the nines and

(01:59:00):
they're sitting on the benchway up on the bench, not down at
the end.

Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
they're a distraction , like they're there and they're
, they're still getting all thiscamera time and it's like
what's the yeah, I think whatyou're saying is a little bit
different argument, um, but Istill think the coach or gm,
whoever again, whoever makes thedecision, you can't say they
don't have the right to dowhatever.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
Maybe they're wrong in the decision oh, it's not
helping them, but what you gotto let them do it.
If that's what they think, Idon't think you do have to let
them do it.
I think you make a play like byyou sitting out, you're not
helping your team.

Speaker 2 (01:59:33):
You could easily just say okay, well, they're having
back spasms, so they can't playthis game.

Speaker 1 (01:59:35):
They could come up with some reason and I agree
with it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
But you can't.
How are you going to prove thatthey did or didn't have a
sprained ankle?
That's bothering them.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
So Joel Embiid has already been investigated this
year for possible fake injuries.
I'm all for it.
Yeah, like don't say you'rehurt if you're not hurt, if
you're not hurt and you don'twant to play retire if you don't
play, I think that should bebetween you and your
organization.
So my thought is if I pay youthat much money to come play a
game for entertainment purposes.
You need to play, no, I agree.

(02:00:06):
But it's the team that's payingthem right.
But but but I'm saying as ateam, as a coach, as an owner if
I'm going to pay you this much,that means I need to do that to
equate to wins.
I can't win if you're not onthe court so I need you to play.

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
Yeah, no, I think you've got a little bit of an
argument there.
I understand that point.
I just don't think the leagueshould be involved in what the
team can and can't do with theirplayers, because they're the
ones well, the.

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
Thing is, though they're paying for them with
league money at times, so thatleague kind of has to, because
they're getting revenue sharethere's.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
There's the whole collective bargaining, so league
kind of has a say in it becausetheir money is also so do you
feel that way about all sports,even like all pro sports, or do
you feel that way in college?

Speaker 1 (02:00:48):
Well, I don't think you see it in any other sport.
Nba is the only thing we'reseeing.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
The NBA you do see it .
Yeah, I agree with that.
I guess if it came over and ifyou start seeing it in the NFL,
if you start seeing it inbaseball they play once a week.
You know baseball aboutbaseball.
So is that you know you'reresting pitchers?
Obviously?

Speaker 1 (02:01:10):
and pitchers obviously that's a little
different thing, I think alittle different on their arm,
like, but again, so baseball hasa hundred and what is it?
A ton like, 162 games, whateverit is, it's a lot, but you also
have a much larger roster, soyou've got a much bigger thing.
So you're then you've gotpeople you're calling up.
It's a little different how theydo and again, I think there's

(02:01:30):
too many baseball games, thatthat's a long season for me when
it comes to nba take it downfrom 82 games, play less, give
them a couple more days inbetween.
Oh, I think that would help.
Like that to me makes moresense than me saying I just had
to work my butt off at work togo get a ticket to watch this
guy.
Now I can't watch him becausehe wants to take a night off,

(02:01:51):
because he had to play two daysago.
Like you're, you're supposed tobe in shape, you're supposed to
be able to go do that stuff.
Like the reason these otherguys don't make it to that level
is because they didn't have allthose things that you had.

Speaker 2 (02:02:03):
Like you should be able to do it as a an owner of
an organization.
I'm paying you millions ofdollars.
Stop telling me you need torest if you're not hurt.
Correct, and there's adifference of being hurt and
being injured.
Oh, 100%, like you can get outthere and keep going Now.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
Here's what I'll say.
I'm paying you for that.
Here's what I'll say If you'rehurt early season, get healthy
so we have you for later I getthat, but if you're not I've
played three games this week I'mjust tired.
Get in better shape.

Speaker 2 (02:02:29):
Your job is to be in shape.
I'm sorry, that's what you'resupposed to be there for it just
is.
Yeah, and if you can't?

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
handle that.
I'll get somebody to replaceyou.
So, as a coach or an owner, Iwant you to play because I'm
paying you a lot as a fan.
I want you to play because I'mhere to watch you play, not the
scrub at the.
I came to watch the big guysand so for me, like this whole,
like I'm going to take nightsoff, I'm only going to play this

(02:02:56):
percentage of games.
Why, yeah, like, what is yourreasoning for that?

Speaker 2 (02:02:58):
For the betterment of the league, like the NBA should
probably put pressure on theowners and I think the owners
should probably put pressure onthe players.
But there might be, like youbrought it up, there might be
some talk about hey, let's getless games, let's get some more
time between I.

Speaker 1 (02:03:12):
I'd rather see that than I would, guys not play.

Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
You know, as an owner , if I see my players getting
injured more often becausethey're wore out all the time,
then yeah, I want the league tomake some changes, because I
don't want to pay a million tome, the change is slightly less
games or heck, as much as I'dsay this make the season longer.

Speaker 1 (02:03:27):
As far as how long you actually go yeah, spread it
out.
So they can spread it out alittle bit.
Because as a league now they'resaying if you don't play a
certain percentage of the games,you're not eligible for any
postseason awards.
So, like here recently, LukaDoncic has been hurt for the
Mavericks.
He is now no longer eligiblefor MVP.

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
See, I don't like that being injured, like if you
can play that well even at beinginjured.

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
But here's my thing your stats are going to look
better because you don't have todo it as long.
So if you can, only play 30games.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
I hadn't thought of that point.

Speaker 1 (02:03:57):
If you're averaging 30 points a game in 30 games,
cool.
What would you have done in 80?
So the guy that did it in 80,that's way more impressive.
That's a good point.
So Stats are very different.
So that's where I'm like allright, I get it.
I like that idea, but theproblem is because of some of
these guys do load management,we could see an MVP.
That makes no sense, which Idon't like, and you can't say

(02:04:19):
that they need it, because lookat how many of the big guys play
every single game.
There's a lot of these guysthat may miss one or two a year.
It's doable.

Speaker 2 (02:04:28):
You just got to want to Like miss one or two a year,
yeah, like it's doable.
And again, you just gotta wantto.
I said I go back to the ownersthat if I'm an owner and you're
the player that constantly needssome time off, okay, I'm time
to trade you.
I want somebody that can comein here and play.
It's just like a you know everyother superstars have the power
, oh I know they do.
You're the superstar, you dowhat you want but it's like
every other you know person outhere at their job.

(02:04:49):
If you're not getting up goingto work every day, no matter how
tired you are, and getting yourjob done right, then we'll go
find somebody else well, andthat's that's what I see all the
time on social media, theseguys that are saying I work 50,
60, 70 hours a week.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
I don't get to call and say, hey, I'm tired, I can't
come in today, I gotta go workand I'm making way less than you
.
You should probably go to work.
You should probably go do it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
Yeah, no, I'm with you there.
I just think it needs to bedone the right way and come from
the person paying the check.
Maybe they put it in thecontract.

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
We've talked about contracts and that's what I'm
saying.
Nba kind of is writing thatcheck and like NBA kind of is
writing that check Like theowner.
It technically comes throughthe owner, but it's through
revenue share of ticket sales,it's through jerseys, Like.
So it is like they kind of dohave a way to say that I mean,
like what the CBA?
I think right now they get 6%revenue share, so it's not a ton
, but when you're talkingbillions, it's a lot of money.

(02:05:44):
It's a lot of money.
So it's very, very different.
So, yeah, got off onto that.
That's a tangent.
That's something I've hated fora while.

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
If my turn was for hate it, that would have been
there for sure, I'm sure, forsure we're going to have some
hate it's for you.
You know, you never know.
I may come across something Ilove and be like, hey, you need
hate it this week because I lovethis.

Speaker 1 (02:06:05):
This one time this year.
We hope to have that Over underover under two and a half this
year.
So you know, without justphysically trying to be like, oh
, I just, I love that Becauseyou just naturally like it's
easier for you to just hatesomething.

Speaker 2 (02:06:21):
Well, you know it's.
We talk about reviews onlineand stuff like that.
You know you never put a review.
If you liked your product, youbought or whatever.
That's not true.
I've done that, have you really?
Oh yeah, you're one of very few.

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
Yeah, I'll give you five stars.

Speaker 2 (02:06:34):
I never I don't do reviews normally, but if there's
something really really bad,then I might.

Speaker 1 (02:06:39):
It's going to take some time.
Oh no, I'll review, I'll review.

Speaker 2 (02:06:48):
Good, bad.
I need to say it's good, yeah,but that's not the way most are.

Speaker 1 (02:06:52):
As a business owner, if I do good, tell me I did good
.

Speaker 2 (02:06:55):
I agree with that, because it really does play a
part in your business.

Speaker 1 (02:06:57):
It helps.
That's a huge thing.
It pushes your name out theremore.

Speaker 2 (02:07:00):
Google stars, Google reviews, Yelp reviews, all that
stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:07:02):
As not a Muse podcast , still trying to think of a
name, of what to call you guys,because I mean I could call you
a mob because of a.
Basically a group of emu iscalled a mob.
Didn't know that.
Now you did.
I mean, you're never going tobe around a mob.
Depends on what kind of mob Imay have already been around a
certain type of mob, so that's alittle different.

Speaker 2 (02:07:22):
Okay, sorry, a group of emus, I won't be around that
no, no, you'd rather be aroundthe real mob, the actual mob for
sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:07:33):
I feel like I'm safer in that that regards I don't
know.

Speaker 2 (02:07:37):
I want to get a pet emu.
Can we get like a mascot?

Speaker 1 (02:07:40):
yeah, he's the logo.
That's as close as we'regetting.

Speaker 2 (02:07:42):
No, no I want a real one.
Why I?
Just because you don't likethem.
That's that just.

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
On the month of my birth.
You do this to me, you knowI've seen this.

Speaker 2 (02:07:53):
It is the month of your birth, exactly.
That was such a random See.
There you go being all elegantagain, like the month of my
birth.

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
I've got all kinds of stuff.
Listen, my job is to make youthink I'm smart, not to actually
be smart, oh okay.

Speaker 2 (02:08:12):
Well, I don't know if that made me think you're smart
or not, I'm not sure.
Yet I've still got to thinkabout that one.
But uh, you know, I see thesethings.
You're thinking I'm good.
You know, we talked about themovie a while back with kevin
james stuff, and he tries toride a ostrich I think his liver
oh yeah can that really be done?

Speaker 1 (02:08:19):
like is that people ride ostriches?
You can ride them, okay.
Yeah, I don't know if I can,I'd probably squish it like a
saddle or you just jump on it.
He's bareback yeah, yeah, I'veseen.
I've seen it done.

Speaker 2 (02:08:30):
I'm never gonna partake, but I've seen it no, I
know they're big birds, I justdidn't know how strong they're.
Oh yeah, I mean they'restarting to hold weight.
So again, I know they're right.

Speaker 1 (02:08:37):
I don't think like a guy like my size I mean I'm a
big guy like I don't thinkthat's probably the smartest,
yeah, but yeah, I mean I thinkyou could get on one you just
called me little.

Speaker 2 (02:08:47):
That's kind kind of nice.
I'm not fat today.

Speaker 1 (02:08:49):
Miniature.
It's different.
Miniature, wow All rightMiniature is not the same, and
on that note everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:08:58):
So we've got big guy and miniature.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
Miniature Yep, okay, fun size if you will.
I don't know if that's anybetter.

Speaker 2 (02:09:08):
I don't know, where are we going?
I I don't know if that's anybetter.

Speaker 1 (02:09:09):
I don't know when are we going.
I think it's after midnight.

Speaker 2 (02:09:11):
It's late, I don't even know where we're going with
this anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:09:14):
I'll say this we love you guys.
Thank you guys for supportingus.
Thank you for listening,because this has been a lot of
fun.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
If you're one of the people like Strawberry Jelly,
please go buy some grape.
Try it out.

Speaker 1 (02:09:24):
Yeah, I, I think you've got to correct those
taste buds, because I don't seehow you could pick that over the
other.

Speaker 2 (02:09:29):
That's my only ask this week.
Oh no, I have one more ask.
Oh okay, don't hold up theparking.

Speaker 1 (02:09:34):
Oh gosh, of course we have to go back there.
That's it.
On that note, guys, when you gobuy your strawberry jelly.
Do not hold up the parking spot.
Unless you're with and we'llsee you soon.
See you next time.

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