Trades, Debates, and 90s Nostalgia

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
welcome back to the non-mean podcast.
I'm tyler here with david ashe's over there dancing.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Thank you for joining us again.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Uh, real quick, just want to say again you're gonna
hear this a lot proudlysponsored by for you golf.
Um, for you golf really loveseeing that we're able to do
both things.
So excited to keep pushing onboth of those fronts moving into
2025.
Um, first off, we've been verydistracted.
We've been recording what feelslike forever before we actually

(00:43):
got started.
We've had some good musicplaying in the background.
So, we're kind of.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, just a little behind the scenes.
So you know, every time werecord we kind of come out and
we just start talking naturally,and just kind of build up what
we're going to do, and we'llplay music in the background and
tonight we get wrapped up in it.
It's usually to build theenergy.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Because, like Tonight , we get wrapped up in it.
It's usually to build theenergy, Because usually we come
out and it's been a long day andyou've got to try to find a
little bit of that spark, and sousually it's like all right,
play some music.
And recently, if you listen onSpotify, we found a playlist
called Biggest Hits of All Timeand it goes back from 1950s.
All the way through.
It's an almost 55-hour playlist.
That's some good stuff and it'sbeen.

(01:23):
We got sucked into it a lottonight.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
So we've been all over the map and I wish we could
play all the music and talkabout.
You know what we've beentalking about for 30 minutes.
I can't afford their royaltyfees, though is the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I know that's the problem and I don't want the
listeners to have to pay forthat.
So yeah, so you're going toWell our topics could change
rather quickly depending onwhat's playing in the background
.
That's right, because I mean,here's the thing.
We've had a lot happen thisweek, both sports world, both
real world.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
It has felt like a really long week.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
It has.
Since we last recorded, it'sfelt like there's been a lot of
things pop up, whether it'ssomething we talk about on the
podcast or it's just things Likea lot of things are happening
it is podcast or it's justthings like a lot of things are
happening.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
It is um.
I feel like we're getting intoa lot of youth sports right now
because the spring's coming.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
You just completely cut out and I just cut out
that's no good so there's aweird cut first, first real
technical difficulties we've had, so we've gone.
This will be week 12 and that'sthe first time we've had
difficulties.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I feel like we're doing pretty good, it happened
in like the first.
What two minutes?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
And I don't know if that's a sign of people telling
us finally shut up or if we'rejust it could be, but either way
, we're going to keep goingbecause that's just what we do.
That that's just what we do.
We have fun with it.
So, as we were saying, lotshappening all around whether
it's local, whether it'snational, whether it's whatever
Big news in the sports worldshook everybody the other night.

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We don't really talk NBA.
We will as it gets closer toplayoffs, because the NBA season
doesn't feel like much but LukaDoncic of the Mavericks being
traded to the Lakers seeminglyout of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Nobody knew it was coming Like nobody, not the
players.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
LeBron claims he didn't either, but I feel like
that's a load of crap.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I don't think anything happens there without
LeBron knowing.
So yeah, I'm not so Did you seethe interview with Anthony
Davis, like, I think, aftertheir game, and they're talking
to him about his time?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
So the one right after the game where they said
something about legacy orsomething.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, and he's like you say that, like I'm not going
to be here.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
And they're like no, we hadn't heard anything.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
But then you hear a guy in the background.
Go, just look at your phone.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah.
So I saw that Somebody postedit because I hadn't seen it and
I was like, oh, that'squestionable.
And I watched it and wasthinking somebody knew something
, somebody let something slip,because it's just not a line of
questioning that most reportersare going to do with a player,
unless there's something,whether they're asking for a

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trade or there's rumors.
This one felt like it justhappened.
Who do you think initiated it?
There's no way that the Lakersdid.
I wouldn't think so either, butI feel like everybody thinks a
player like that.
Because here's the thing AD, wecould probably argue is he
truly a superstar of the league?

(04:20):
Is he a star?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yes, he's right on the board.
Is he a superstar?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I don't know.
We could argue.
I could probably argue bothways.
Yeah, there's no arguing forLuca.
Luca is a superstar.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
So is there just a locker room issue in Dallas and
they just, or he heads withownership?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I was talking to Brad about this.
So we went with my dad to anappointment the other day.
We were in the car kind of alltalking about it, and he kind of
brought up the point.
Every time that somebody wantsto trade somebody, you start
hearing the negative and it'slike, well, was it really
negative or is it just somethingto try to kind of soften the
blow?

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Justify what you did.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Because it was all of a sudden.
Well, luka's got fat.
Yeah, everybody's talking aboutLuka's weight all of a sudden,
and it's like the man's, he'sstill.
He could probably be 300 poundsand still out there With his
slow moves and slow jump shot.
You can't stop him.
Yeah, it's just the way.
I mean just his play style.
You can't do it.
So it's very interesting.
So who got the better deal?
Long term, for sure the Lakers,you think so.

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Short term, I don't know thatLeBron and Luka Could play
together.
That's a lot of people thatneed the ball and there's only
one on the court.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, I don't know how that's going to work out Now
.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
In my opinion and I argued this with our buddy Will
last night in my opinion, lebronis not the greatest of all time
, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
To.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Will.
There is nobody besides LeBron.
Really, I did not know thathe's number one on top of the
list period.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
So Will's a little bit younger than us, he is.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
But still.
But he went as far, and I triedto not rip his throat out when
he said this.
He went as far as he was likeMichael Jordan was a bum and I
was like, wow.
But what I will say, though?
That younger, youngergeneration, I do feel like most
of them Flocked to LeBronbecause that's what they got to
witness, they saw it.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
But even when I watch anything NBA today, I don't
think he's the best in theleague right now.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I really don't.
I definitely don't say now butLeBron's no longer a superstar.
Lebron is not a superstar ofthe league.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
When he played with Kobe.
Kobe was better.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
So that's hard to say , though, just because I better.
But that was so.
That's hard to say, though,just because I'm not disagreeing
.
But that was like lebron'sfirst few years, like his first
couple.
I don't feel like lebron reallycame into his own until like
season three, season four.
He had great stats before that,but like season three, season
four, it was like now it's myleague and I'm gonna take it
over and he just kind of did.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I've always felt like he just complained too much,
always had issues.
I don't think there was everany defense.
I think we've talked about thata little bit.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I do enjoy the GOAT conversation.
I enjoy the people that try toargue for Kobe and I can kind of
see some of their, theirarguments.
I'm not, I don't really justdownplay it, but it is so hard
to compare some of it.
The leagues when these guysplayed is so different.
The league LeBron has played inis not the league Jordan played

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in.
It's not physical at all.
So there's so many guys that Ithink about and I'm looking at
today's guys or even looking atguys back then, like somebody we
talked about here recently,like a Tony Kukoc.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Oh yeah, Solid for the.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Bulls.
He was a very good role playerfor the Bulls.
I don't know that he could makeit today.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
He was a shooter, so that might help.
He was more that stretch, buthe's not quick enough, those
guys?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
then it wasn't the athleticism that we're seeing.
It was ball players, notathletes.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
When we talk about the GOAT, I always go Michael
Jordan first, yes, and I seeKobe second.
From there I can talk about it,but I'd be curious to talk to
somebody.
You talked to people youngerthan us and he says LeBron.
What about somebody older thanus?
Do they say MJ, or is theresomebody?
I think there's a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
A little Chamberlain no, I think there's a lot.
Or Will Chamberlain no, I thinkthere's a lot.
That kind of naturally go to MJbecause they've gotten to see
it from way, way back all theway in through.
I think they'll recognize someyou know Kareems, they'll
recognize you know the WillsLarry Bird.
But at the end of the day Istill think they say but Jordan

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was different.
Like when you watch jordan,like jordan paved the way for us
to really have a true goat.
Like for us to say we havethese comparisons to jordan
because here's the thing lebroncame to the league.
He was being compared to jordan.
Yeah, like we were comparinghim to the best of all time.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
And we still try to wasn't that a pretty good
stretch of time from jordan tolebron, like jordan when he Well
, I mean.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Jordan played into the 2000s.
Well, he did, but I'm sayingwhen he was the GOAT, so mid-90s
, so Jordan's late 90s is whenit was like the established he's
it.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Because you've got to think like 96, 98, you know
that era that's.
Even then Everybody knew likeyou don't mess with Jordan, like
you don't talk to Jordan, youdon't run your mouth to Jordan
because he'll go hit 50 justbecause you made a bet?
Exactly yeah, and that's afterhe played 36 holes of golf.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
The morning of, but you and I was fairly young even
when that was going on, and Istill remember it.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, so I was really more probably involved
and into basketball during theKobe era than any.
Yeah, I can see that, but Istill recognize that I think
Jordan was greater.
If we get to just scoring, Ithink Kobe may be a better
scorer overall than Jordan but Ithink Jordan as an overall

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player is just a different thing.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, Kobe could lock you down, though, when he
wanted.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Kobe was one of the greater guard defenders ever he
was, he had the mindset.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
That was just, but I think that's what made him so
great is kobe's.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I mean, it's the whole reason they call it mom of
mentality, like his mindset wasdifferent than anyone's ever
played.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I feel like we've talked about him a little bit in
the past on the podcast of thatmentality.
Right, it's just that'sdifferent yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
And that's to me.
You can't give that to anybodyLike if I have his mentality,
I'm still not a high-level NBAguy because I don't have the
features that a lot of theseguys have the argument for
LeBron comes from a lot of theyounger generation.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
You know some younger than us.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
So when you think of the nba, say post kobe.
Who are you like?
Is it lebron for?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
you.
Are you talking like on my list?
Like best post kobe, like kobeand jordan's out of it.
From when would that?
Be well, so do you mean like do?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
you mean like who do I put on my list, or who do I
who's?
The who do I then say is likeall right, right, well, it's
their league.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, oh, it's LeBron .

Speaker 1 (10:46):
You think so.
So when you start to say who'sthe face of the league?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
who owns the league?
Who is?
But is he the best player Inhis time that he's been in the
league?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I think he was for a good portion of it.
I do.
I think he was the mostdominant across the board purely
because you know you take alook at that Cleveland team that
he won a championship withother than Kyrie, who could be
one of the most skilled peopleto ever play basketball just

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with his, his, the total skillpackage that he has very
potentially could be up there asfar as skill level, not saying
he's one of the greats like yeah, his overall, just individual
skill is so impressive.
Um, but other than that, who wason that team?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
he didn't have a lot up there.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
There wasn't much there I mean even the team
before that that he took to thefinals.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
There was nobody on it seeing that I'm sitting here
thinking and there's got to besomebody, because I just don't.
I don't think I've ever lookedat LeBron and thought the
greatness that I hear otherpeople talk about of him.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
So I think the hard part is so many people look at
greatness as stats.
He's got a lot of stats.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
He's got a lot of stats.
I'm with you there.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Greatest sorry, that's the term everybody wants
to use the greatest scorer.
I don't think he's the greatestscorer.
That's the term everybody wantsto use.
The greatest scorer I don'tthink he's the greatest scorer.
He has most points.
Yeah, like I wouldn't call himthe greatest scorer of all time.
It took him longer to get them.
So that was my argument, kind of, with Will.
If Jordan played as manyseasons as LeBron, didn't take

(12:21):
the breaks, didn't go leave todo baseball, didn't you know all
that stuff, we could be talkinga very different story, I think
so.
Yeah, um, but I think with KobeI think Kobe too, like some of
his injuries that he, you knowhe had, you know the Achilles
that he had, or some of the kneeproblems he had when he was
young, when all of a sudden he'slike, hey, I'm going to stop
dunking, I'm not going to therim as much as I used to when he
really developed that thatlittle fader, you know, you get

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some of those kind of things um,I think it's probably a
different story see, I eventhink durant was really good
when, when he was in his prime.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
He's getting older too now, so I think what's
really hard.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
There came to a point , and I don't know exactly what
year, but you start to think andyou've got a guy like Durant,
who at one point was him andHarden were probably fighting to
be the best scorer in NBA.
Because James Harden anotherguy that he can just put up
points quick.
You've got like a Harden or,excuse me, not a Harden but a
Durant.
Then you have the name ofLeBron, but you had Carmelo.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Carmelo's another one .

Speaker 1 (13:20):
You had a lot of these guys, which again
Carmelo's kind of offense, onlyhe wasn't going to play defense.
But he went to Syracuse for areason he could sit in the zone
and not have to play muchdefense, but there's just so
many.
There's been a lot more talentcome through while LeBron's been
in Like superstar status.
Yeah, when you start looking atGiannis, you start looking at.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Jokich, are all these guys scores like you're talking
about, like they'll put up thenumbers?

Speaker 1 (13:47):
so not all of them.
So like to me nicole yokich atthe nuggets, he's as much
facilitator.
He, he controls the game a lot.
Now, he can score, he does puta lot of points, but he controls
the game in a lot of ways, um,whether it's tempo, whether it's
just right time, right momenttype thing, he, he does control
it.
Now I will say LeBron has beenpretty good at that in his

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career.
I mean, he does have a lot ofassists, but it does help when
you have Wade and Bosh on yourteam those years in Miami
getting those stats, a lot ofpeople don't really look at
Chris Bosh being as good as hereally was.
I think he was really good.
He was fantastic In the time.
He may have been the best fourin the game Because Duncan was
already aging.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
I was going to say Duncan would be the other one to
come by.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
You had some of these older ones that were aging and
the game started to shift.
Because that's another thing.
Me and Brad talked about A guylike DeAndre Jordan.
So much athleticism, but kindof halfway through his career
the game switched.
Because kind of when we go backand we say some of those guys
from back then couldn't playtoday, the same way some of the
guys today couldn't play backthen.

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Perfect example, we said, wasBen Wallace for the Pistons.
He was defensive player of theyear, he was rebounding leader,
he was all this and that and hewas like 6'7", 6'8".
That doesn't fit today he can'tplay against uh yokich or imbeed
or anthony davis, like he's notplaying against that type of

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guy.
Yeah, um, but you also weren'tseeing that type of guy back
then no, your bigs now are soathletic so much more athletic.
But so that was the argument Ikind of made with Will yesterday
.
I don't see the league full ofbasketball players.
I see the league full ofathletes.
Yeah, I could see that, and I'mnot saying they can't play
basketball.
But if you're really that, ifyou are a top-tier level athlete

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, you can do anything, it's whatyou've put your time into.
If some of these guys wouldhave went and said football from
a young age, would the talentthat they have they'd have been
they can do that yeah.
Like it's just it's a differentathletes, different thing.
Cause you look at a guy likeSteve Kerr, he couldn't play
today, he's too slow Like hemight make a team because he's

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he can spot him and hit a three,kind of the Kyle Corver type.
Just the older version of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's just.
The league is so, so differentTo me.
It's much easier Now.
It's not as fun, but it's mucheasier to have the argument of
who is the best in each era,like that to me is the easier
conversation.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I get you know the LeBron and I might can handle
him.
Third, he ain't never going infront of MJ and Kobe.
To me, I don't care whatanybody says, and that's what
I'm going to say.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
In my mind what I always find hard.
We start making thesecomparisons and you're like oh,
we look at this, this and this,but I don't think there's ever
been a more dominant player inthe league than Shaquille O'Neal
.
Oh, I agree, yeah, but whydon't we talk about him being
higher on the list?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
You know, he come to my mind when we were talking
about anybody better than.
Lebron.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
So his prime was before LeBron making it.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
It was yeah, but if I'm talking a top five list, is
he?

Speaker 1 (16:58):
better than LeBron.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Who's going to guard him?

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Nobody.
You go back and look at some ofhis highlights.
One of the greatest bigs of alltime, David Robinson, who
played for the Spurs he made himlook childish.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's not what anybody does today.
They want you to be able to runand jump and shoot threes.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's why Shaq, on TNT, he always says my prime,
none of these guys could guardme.
He said none of them arekeeping me from 50.
You're going to have to make meshoot free throws because you
couldn't.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
That's what they do, Like Rudy.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Gobert thinks he could cover Shaq.
Yeah, no, like Rudy, gobert isa more athletic.
What's his name?
Bradley?
He used to play for theMavericks big, tall, white guy.
Like.
That's what he is.
Like.
He's not no Like.
I watched a video the other day.
He's not no Like.
I watched a video the other day.
It's Rudy Gobert warming up fora game.

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He's like 7'2".
Misses eight layups in a row ohmy gosh.
And it's like a Mike-in drill.
Like he, literally like he'salready there, he's at the rim
and he's shorting it.
Every one of them is short andI'm like you may come out and be

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like, oh yeah, I was working onrebounding.
Bullcrap, yeah, bullcrap.
No, it is not good for anybasketball player's mentality to
sit there and purposely missthat many shots.
Yeah, like you're not kobe, youdon't have the mentality of
like I'll just switch it.
So yeah, it's very hard.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
We kind of get on this from the trade.
But yeah, I'm curious to see,uh, how the trade pans out out,
who it works out for.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
That feels like a drama-filled place right now.
I don't know that I want to bein LA no, dealing with LeBron
and his son and JJ Redick'sfirst-year coach.
To me, it's just not a placethat I'd really be happy.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
It's strange to me, though, that you play for these
teams and you give everything tothem, and you live there and
you're there for years, and, allof a sudden, one day it's like,
oh yeah, by the way, you're out.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
So there's a lot of those guys that you see will
request, like maybe they're justunhappy there or they want to
go to a bigger market, becauseobviously LA is LA, new York.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
But then you're kind of planning it.
You know it's coming.
So the rumor is luca bought a15 million dollar house last
week in dallas oh my gosh, andI'm like, if that happened, I'm
not happy with ownership what sowhat do you do, like like
anthony davis, he's in la right,he's gotta go to dallas now.
Yep, you just jump on a plane,take some clothes, grab an

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apartment.
I mean, I'm sure it's a niceapartment.
I used to always wonder that.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
And then Shaq talked about it when he got moved a
couple of times.
He was at the heat and theymoved him to, I think, the Sun,
I'm sure they don't touchanything.
Somebody moves them, doeseverything for them.
But he basically said I loadedup some stuff flew.
I think it was Phoenix that hewas going to.
I loaded up some stuff flew Ithink it was Phoenix that he was

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going to.
And he said and I went toWalmart and spent like $15,000.
Oh my gosh.
And it got declined.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I think I remember him.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
They're looking at him and they're like this is
Shaq.
Like why is he getting declined?
He's like I promise.
And they're like he gets aphone call.
Hey, we think there's afraudulent charge.
He's like no, it's me I'm inphoenix now and he's like, and
they're like, oh, okay, and theycleared it all up, yeah, but he
basically like, I went andrented a nice place.
You know, most of them don'tbuy a house that quickly,
especially right after a trade.
If you're not the big focalpoint of the team, you still

(20:18):
could get moved.
To get moved, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
So I don't remember that video because I always
should think, think about it.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
I was like, yeah, what do they do?
It's a business, I get it.
It's a business.
I know Amanda always talksabout it.
She's like I always hate theidea of somebody getting traded
and I'm like contracts and moneymoving is a business and they
know what they sign up for.
This isn't Well.

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Some of them get At that tooand like that's you almost have
to.
Especially nowadays you have tobe superstar status to have
that, like your run-of-the-millguy can't get a no trade clause.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
No, I agree with that .

Speaker 1 (20:53):
You may be able to.
We kind of talked about likewith baseball.
Even most of those guys can'tdo it unless they there's like
maybe three or four teams theycan say you just can't trade me
here, so you may get some ofthat.
But I think for the most partthese guys are at the mercy, you
know, of the ownership for methat it seems really weird.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
But I guess when you're living that lifestyle,
that you're traveling all thetime anyways and you've got
money and none of that matterseverybody does stuff for you all
the time anyways, like me.
If you tell me you got to packup and be here next week to
their job, I got a lot I got totake care of before right,
there's a lot of things tostraighten out before I get
there.
Yeah, I mean, I guess if yougot kids that's always hard, but

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literally you jump on a planeto fly back and forth.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I mean, it's not well , these guys, though, even even
at that level that that havekids.
It's such a part of it for them.
And again, again, this isn'tAnthony Davis' first move.
He went from New Orleans to LA,so that's a little bit
different.
But I did see where hebasically lost a bonus, like a
$5-point-something millionpotential bonus.

(21:57):
But they actually said he'sgoing to end up making more
because he'll pay less taxes inTexas than he will in California
.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
So I'm like, well, I guess he really I mean I think
that's how the agents basicallygot around like all right, we'll
forego it because he's going tomake a little bit more than
that.
So it's like well, I got mybonus either way.
Yeah, which, if we'recomplaining about you didn't get
your $5.7 million bonus, Idon't feel bad for you, like

(22:24):
when you're talking if youearned it, you earned it, right,
you're talking.
You make what?
10, 15, 20 a year?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I don't feel as bad for you, it's still my money I,
I get that, but it's.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's very hard for the everyday man to say, oh,
boohoo, you didn't get.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
You didn't get your extra couple million like that's
where it's like come on it doesfeel that way, yeah, and I get
what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
But no, so I, if you're eligible for one, which
it drives me nuts you'll seethese nfl guys.
They need one more touchdown ora couple more catches and they
don't play them and I'm like,all right, that's messed up like
I don't agree.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
You know exactly why.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Like the, cowboys this year did that with the
backup quarterback.
If he just started that lastgame he was eligible for like
500 000.
So in the grand scheme not verybig.
When you're talking cowboys area billion dollar yeah that's
nothing to them, likemulti-billion dollar team 500
grand is nothing.
Like to me.
I'm like all right, yeah, youdeserve it.
You stepped up when we neededyou, you deserve it.
And they started the thirdstring and I'm like that's that

(23:15):
to me.
I'm like all right, yeah, cutme, I'll find a backup spot
somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Like it's not worth it.
Well, that's why I say, nomatter how much money he's
already making, like, that's mymoney, I deserve that.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
So I'm gonna be upset if you so it's a little harder
when you're talking about guysin his level than than like a
backup quarterback, I mean likecooper rush for the cowboys,
that's.
Who is that?
Yeah, like nobody knows whothat is.
We only know because if you'rea cowboy fan you kind of like,
well, I had to watch him.
But a guy like anthony davis,the amount of money he's making
and so many sponsorships anddeals and commercials and all

(23:46):
this, does he actually know whathe's making?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
You don't think he was kind of sitting there going.
Oh man, I was really wantingthat.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I was going to buy another part of the house I got
to buy my second yacht.
Yeah, I feel bad for you,anthony.
Don't shave your unibrow, I'msick of that thing.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Maybe he had it spent and he was like yeah, it's five
minutes coming in buying me acouple cars, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Sell your LA house.
You're going to make it back.
You're going to make more thanthat back.
You're the only house that'snot burnt down.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Do you think they do sell them?

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Some I feel like do Like.
You'll see some that keep itMight as well.
Keep a vacation house?
I think some, but I don't feellike he's that deep in his
career.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
I feel like he may sell it.
Yeah, I have quite a bit ofmoney then I don't know I don't
know if a house is cheaper inDallas than it is in LA.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I would assume.
So I can't imagine anything inin Texas, anywhere in the
country or anywhere in the stateof texas is as expensive as it
is in la.
Everything's bigger in texas,yes, but la is historically
known as highest taxes, highestprice, so I can't imagine.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I can't imagine it would be so I'm gonna make this
crazy transition here.
Okay, let's go, because yousaid unibrow I did okay.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I did well.
I've always hated that abouthim.
I'm like that's not a coolthing to be like proud of.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You know he kept that even from Kentucky and it just
kind of became.
But he was a nerd when he wentto.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Well, I mean really like when you like, when you see
him.
When he came in like he was, hewas not.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
He's got a twin sister too.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I don't know if she has a unibrow.
I don't know, but I just can'timagine, her being a sight to
look at.
This is not the same, butsimilar.
Okay, I watched TGL last night.
I watched it late and itrecorded.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Oh, my gosh Before you get into that.
Sorry, I saw the ratingsslipped again, Did they?
Because nobody knows whenthey're playing.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Oh I know, I had no clue.
It was last night, it was likenine.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Last night it was between a couple basketball
games, like I had no clue whenit was so I was like I don't
even know when to watch.
I was looking for it Monday.
It didn't happen.
I was like, all right well.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
I guess I missed it.
So we had Boston versus LA,okay.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Keegan Bradley.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
His mustache.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's bad.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, I think it's the best thing ever.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Okay, did it grow in a little bit?
I mean, I haven't seen him in acouple weeks.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I thought I was watching Tom Selleck.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
The last time I saw his mustache it was Like white
panel vein creepy.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I mean, it was pretty rough.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
It was pretty rough If it grew in thicker, it just
wasn't thick enough.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Oh, it's thick.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Before it didn't feel like it was just there.
No, I just so.
I questioned it.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I don't, it just fits him.
I don't know why it just Doesit fit him as Captain America?

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yes, because this is the Ryder Cup coaching team.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Okay, I guess I probably knew that.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
But he's got to show me more Than what he's shown in
TGL.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
He's been so bad.
So a lot of those guys havebeen really bad in TGL.
Last night they had the firstMisread.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right Of the system.
Did you get to see it?
No, I was gonna go watch it andI completely forgot so it tommy
fleetwood, he would.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, he hits a shot and like, even on the screen you
can't tell it just kind of wentto some grass somewhere and
you're like, was he?
Hitting from fairway rough sand, like what was the scenario I
want to say fairway okay, he wason grass, yeah and he just kind
of stopped and looked aroundand and even you could tell like
everybody at the place they're,they're watching, they're kind
of like what, what just?

(27:31):
happened and then the announceris like oh, we had a misread, so
he's going to get to hit again.
And I was like, interestingthat I get it.
You know, in a competition youwant that shot whether it's good
or bad.
If you're him and it's a badshot, you want it again.
Obviously, if it's your bestshot, you don't want to have to
do it again.
So he might have been like man,I just hit the best shot ever

(27:51):
and now I've got to redo it.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Well.
So I feel like when I saw theirinitial rules, if it's a
misread, that's positive.
They almost don't even considerit a misread.
I think they're only considerit when it's like showing like a
horrible shank or like a balldidn't go anywhere this one was
weird.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I don't.
I couldn't even tell on thescreen where it actually went,
so I don't know if it went offsomewhere, barely went anywhere.
I'm not sure.
But I also saw some guystalking when, when tiger played,
they were like do you reallythink tiger flew the green 20
yards?

Speaker 1 (28:20):
no, so I thought that was a misread, I remember.
I remember that one becauseeven they talked about uh,
charlie was making fun of himand it was like they they tried
to play it up like oh,adrenaline's pumping this.
I'm like how many majors doesthat?
Mean one and you're saying he'sgot an adrenaline hitting to a
screen he can't handle the inthis little stadium.
I'm like there's no way he flewa green with a wedge by 20 yards

(28:41):
.
Yeah, because I mean it wasn'tbladed, it wasn't a mishit like
he hit it clean and he flew itlike, but there's a lot of guys
that hit shots that you can tellon their face.
They question it they're notsure short or it it does, just
does something different andthey're not sure I guess that's
part of it.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Um, as a professional golfer, I don't think I would
enjoy that, knowing like, hey,I'm good, I can hit the shot,
and now I'm on national tv inthis, this event and it looks
like I can't that would botherme a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
We've had a bunch of people say we don't think it's
good for these guys to bemid-season or like into the
season playing in this.
But to rory just went one.
Rory just won shane lowry'sbeen like top five in several um
.
You've had a lot of these guysthat have they were high level.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
They were kind of talking about that on the
broadcast, about how so many ofthe tgo guys done really well at
pebble beach.
I wonder if it's just they'regetting.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
It's not just practice repetition.
They're getting competitiveholes in, not just going out and
playing on the course with yourbuddies.
You are getting like I'm tryingto win holes in, so I wonder if
that's maybe helping becauseyou're just in that mentality
more so I'm curious about thatsome guys, though, they struggle
around the green.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
They struggle putting it's a different feel um colin
mokawa.
Oh yeah, it was great I mean,he's fantastic though he was
putting, so LA played last night.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, la destroyed them.
Speaking of LA, did you see thenews about them?
Oh, I saw a new ownership orsomething Good good, Good good,
that's right has become a Idon't know if they said majority
or partial owner of the LA team.
Yeah, and one thing we'restarting to see is we're
starting to see some of theseteams get picked up in kind of

(30:29):
having like a overalloverarching sponsor.
How does that work?

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Ownership.
Like you don't, you're notpaying the players.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
So so I think I think you're basically putting money
back into the league to helpfurther the league, okay.
So by them getting into andagain, I don't know if these
players get paid or not, I'msure they have to be getting
something.
They're not doing it for free.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I don't know how it works.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
There's no way they're doing it for free I
don't think so but a team likeLA.
It was interesting to me thatGood Good bought that team
because they're in Texas,they're in Dallas, so I just
kind of felt like they maybewent more towards that.
But they went with the LA teamteam.
What is great for them?
So they're, they're part ofcallaway, they that's who
they've been signed with for awhile.

(31:10):
They are like they're not justlike hey, we're sponsored by
callaway, they are likepartnered, teamed with callaway.
They're like doing their owncallaway clubs.
They're like they're gettingall the like top end treatment,
which is really cool to see ayoutube space getting that yeah
yeah, but seeing more.
kawa and fleetwood are on LA.
Those are tailor-made guys soyou never get to see them in

(31:33):
their videos.
Now you do, now you can.
So now we're going to get tosee some of the matches or
entertaining stuff that they do.
I mean they'll do Wheel of NotIdeal.
I mean, obviously I watch a lotof their content.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
I think it's a lot of fun.
It's very interesting.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I know of them but I don't watch a lot of their stuff
.
I I really like youtube.
I watch a lot of stuff on thereand the golf content to me is
in a pretty pivotal spot.
Um, there's some guys you cantell they're starting to go back
to what got them to where theyare, instead of trying to just
like, oh, we've made it, nowwe're doing stuff because it
started to lack off a little bit.
But I think here lately theseguys are really pumping some
good content and good videos.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I'd say watching it last night I thought la was
pretty fun to watch gotcha.
Um, they had a little bit ofpersonality I'm.
I think they play atlanta maybeon that that would be exciting.
So I mean atlanta could be funthat's probably where I'm going
to pick my team.
It's probably going to bebetween them two.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
I don't know why, but I feel like it's really hard
for me to pick like an LA team.
That just feels kind of odd.
It is yeah, and I can't reallyeven give you an answer to that.
I'm leaning.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Atlanta would be my team, but LA was fun to watch.
La just blew them out and allthat was Colin.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
He was amazing.
There's been one close matchand that was Tiger and Rory.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
That was it, and there's some questions about the
shot clock violation.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
I still question some of that as to how we got it as
close as it was.
But some of these other guys, Ithink, are just like I'm here
to win and I'm going to put youout of it and just go.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Well, it was another match, too, where they did not
throw the hammer not one time,but they got off to a lead.
They didn't need to.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Well, so for them.
Yeah, so were they holding it,yeah they held it.
So that's the one thing thatI'm almost like.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
I wonder if there's a rule they could put in a
stipulation of if you're so farbehind you automatically get the
hammer to your team, or justjust to try to give you one
little boost, almost liketimeouts.
If you don't use certain numberof timeouts in the first half,
you lose them.
Right, so kind of you got somany holes to use it, or you
lose, it goes the other team.
You know something?

Speaker 1 (33:40):
yeah, just to kind of throw it around a little bit,
because yeah it.
The thing is, if you come outyou win the first hole, but
you're holding the hammer.
I may look to never throw ityeah, and that's what it's
almost like.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Why would I?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
it's gonna benefit, it's not even that I'm worried
about me getting that extra.
I don't want you to have theopportunity to get a free win,
yep, or a potential double point.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
If you're up three to nothing yeah, you don't want to
give them the hammer then nowthey can potentially get two.
Uh, I had to change that song.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
You would have heard me sing a little tina turner in
the background was was hard notto sing it but I thought it was
uh, I think it's getting better.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
It's still got some things I need to work out, but
still, okay, let's just go.
Let's go hate it.
Here's a hate it right here.
Oh wow, we went so real quick.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
This is part of our newer segment love it hate it
real easy for david to.
Of our newer segment Love it,Hate it.
Real easy for David to hatethings.
So he's jumping on it, he'sready.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I mentioned it a little bit, but this week it was
even worse and it's on TGL, thelittle lip they use in the
bunker.
I absolutely hate.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
That replicates nothing.
I'm talking about the.
So they've got like a uh, it'son some type of little motor,
it's a, basically a small littleboard with grass on the board.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
It's like like two feet tall, so at max it can be.
Yeah so here you look on thescreen and they're in this
bunker with this lip and thething moves six inches up there.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
I'm like that ain't doing anything I really wish
everybody could see the handmotions like it's, it's, it's a
hate.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
It is a hate because every time I see them and
they'll, you know, real politelyand easily put their ball in
the sand right on the top rightand then the lip comes up six
inches and you're like come on,but they, they always lay that
ball pretty far back in thatbunker.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, that lip is nowhere close to them I'm
telling you, there was one.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I saw the lip.
It was up you know a goodcouple feet and they're like,
yeah, I think the lips all theway up and that was like the max
it had.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
And then there's another one later on play out of
pop bunkers that at st andrewslike they're.
They're not worried about thatlittle two foot stopping
anything.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
And then they go to another one and, like I said you
, you see them in this bunkerand I'm like, oh, how are they
going to do this?
And and I'm thinking thething's going to be all the way
up and it's six inches up and hejust it's right like it was.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Not even think that it's there, no it didn't bother
it a bit.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I feel the same way about the rough like that.
Ain't no rough, that's thegrass just I want an inch taller
and rough.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I want it to be like the six inch can't see your ball
rough I do too.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I want to be like absolutely punished rough it
needs to be rough um they hadwon.
A ball stopped like right onthe side of the hill and the
guys are even laughing.
They're like you wouldn't beable to stand to hit that right
and it just, and yet you knowyou're perfect so I I get it,
but but the the lip on thebunker stop.
I mean, just leave it down.
That's stupid.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I hate that well, I mean I wasn't quite ready to go
to my love it for the week.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Well, we was just on the topic, that's all right.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
We're going to make another change then.
I guess because my love it andI've laughed about this since it
started and it's going to takeus a different direction we're
away from TGL.
I'll go and tell you that, Okay, we're making the switch where
we're going.
I love the fact that ourcurrent president, donald trump,
has put elon musk in charge ofviewing the budget and basically

(36:58):
saying, hey, this is where allof our wasted taxpayer money is
going and they're just puttingit out there, oh, my goodness.
So me and my wife were talkingabout a little bit last night at
some of the more justridiculous things.
Um, there was one it was.
It was a transgender comic book.

(37:21):
I saw that and I'm like wespent close to like a hundred
thousand dollars.
It's in another country, yeah.
And then there was a wholebasically trying to start a DEI
program diversity, equity,inclusion, whatever it's called.
It makes no sense in Sweden.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
It's like this is taxpayer dollars, mm-hmm.
So I have loved the fact thatmost of the people you're seeing
angry currently is theDemocrats on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
They're not mad about what they're saying the money
was spent on.
They're mad that Elon Musk isthe one putting it out what they
spent the money on, they're madthat a non, they're trying to
say, well, he doesn't belong.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
The president can put whoever he wants, doing
whatever he wants.
It doesn't make sense, and Ilove that too.
I'm just going to say that's agood love it, brian, clip it.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
I need it.
Listen, you say this every week.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I normally agree with your love it.
You just never agree with myhate it them.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I hate it, I don't, I don't know, because you're
hated sir, you're just moreanimated about it.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I'm just kind of like take it or leave it.
Go watch the tgl lip and you'llhate it, I'm telling you that
we're calling it the tgl lipfrom now, that's what it is.
It's horrible, but no, I saw uhhere in a town close to us.
You can guess which one theywere protesting a lot of
different things, and one ofthem was protesting elon and it
was like.
Well, we didn't vote for him.
Don't you realize half thepeople in government you didn't
vote for?

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Well, so the people that they appoint you didn't
vote for them.
Like several of the guys thatare currently up for their
appointments, that they're goingthrough Congress and they're
going through Senate and havingall these meetings.
You may have technically votedfor the people that are going to
confirm or deny him, but you'renot voting for those people

(39:12):
Exactly, and we don't get intopolitics a lot and I'm I we
might touch it a little bit.
We're probably gonna do a littlebit more, just because it's we
will.
It's getting ridiculous.
It is ridiculous.
That's what I was going to say.
I don't get into much of atopic, that's.
I'm not going to sit here andtalk a ton on, you know, policy
and those things.
But when you've got somethingas ridiculous and I'll say

(39:37):
absolutely ridiculous as havingto make a policy to keep women
in women's sports, it blows mymind.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
That's crazy and that's what I was going to say,
like it blows my mind.
I don't get into a lot ofpolitics, but crazy is crazy,
exactly, and I'm going to callcrazy out.
I don't care, I don't carewhich side you're on what you're
doing Crazy, crazy, and sothat's.
I'm with you on that.
Um, I saw the uh.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
She had a list of things she was calling out, you
know, let's spend money on thisand on this.
So that's the thing is, there'sbeen some interesting things
that the president's donealready, some things that are
common sense, that it makes nosense to me we have to make a
bill for, you know, the whole.
Well, there's only two genders.
Like federally, they're onlygoing to recognize two.

(40:25):
Federally, they're only goingto recognize two.
Like this whole diluted thingof, well, gender and sexual
orientation, that's not a realthing.
No, like it's just not.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I'm sorry, like I was told out there on things, and
and listen, we're just gonnagive, we're gonna put it all out
there right now we're gonna gowith it because I was told what
five years ago to follow thescience.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
So I mean, come on now, hang on, hang on.
That leads us to some, to some.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
My body, my choice that leads us to a lot of things
, but no it I.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I agree with you.
It's well.
The science says you need toget this shot because this is a
really, really bad sickness.
The sickness was bad, yeah, itwas bad across the entire world.
Yeah, but you studied thatthing for about two weeks and
you want me to put in my body?
I don't think I can no, it'sjust too questionable.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
No, I mean I about everybody, I know had covet at
some point and got sick multipletimes at this point.
Um, but you know, that.
That's a whole other topic,obviously.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, I mean again, I I don't go into that a whole
lot because I really just don'tknow enough about it to to tell
you, to be honest, like I havemy my views on things, but I
think there's, with anythingmajor that we see, it's what's
happening in the background.
It's all the contradiction.
Yeah, because I've always saidone week this, one week that,

(41:50):
yeah with with everything.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
American people want to follow what they're told to
help the better good ofeverybody, like we really do.
But we all do well.
But when it's just back andforth and you don't know what's
right and like, come on, justjust tell us the truth and we'll
do what's best like I'm tryingto teach my nine-year-old right
now, because he's very much likeme.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
He he gets really frustrated and upset at times
when he's playing a game andsomebody doesn't follow the
rules.
He is a rule follower.
Yep, he gets that from me.
I'm very much like I'm gonnafollow the rules.
You're a real follower untilthey get to the point that it's
like what do you mean?
Mean Like that, that doesn'tlike I will follow rules.
And then there gets to a pointwhere it's like you got to

(42:34):
explain that one to me.
I'm not just going to blindlySee.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
I thought rules were made to be broken.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Certain certain ones, but there's a lot of things
that I'm like it doesn't affectme to be a rule, that I just
don't really care, but so I justkind of naturally do it.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
It affect me to be a rule that I just don't really
care, but so I just kind ofnaturally do it.
It's just naturally, I'm goodwith it.
I hear this on a show I listento all the time.
Uh, a rule is not a rulewithout a punishment this is
true.
So there's lots of rules outthere that say you gotta do this
, you gotta do that.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
But well, if you do a lot of people that say you know
, like with laws, well, it's notillegal unless you get caught.
And I mean.
Well, I don't necessarily agreewith that, but I see the
mindset behind what you'resaying with it.
I just don't feel like thatworks on everything.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I guess it's still illegal, correct, correct.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
You're just not getting the punishment of it.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
You didn't get the punishment, you didn't get
caught, so but there's somerules.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Some of these big guys are getting caught right
now.
So, we'll wait and see whathappens with those.
But there, see what happenswith those.
But there's some rules that youknow.
There really isn't a punishmentfor no.
It's like no, no, I agree withthat.
But I will say this one thing Iam very interested and I
actually went and looked it upjust a couple days ago.
Um, I want to say it was on mybirthday.
Um, trump signed a thing todeclassify about jfk, about mlk,

(43:47):
um, there's something else onthere I'm forgetting.
But I was like, oh yeah, sowhen is that going to happen?
Because I'm curious about it, Iam too.
So, per the order, it's within45 days, okay, so I'm like,
alright, I knew there'd be atime.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
But are we still going to get all the details?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
I don't believe that at all.
I don't either.
I believe there's still goingto be plenty of redacted stuff
because they're going to say,well, national security, because
it's the easiest thing to say.
Yeah, but I'm hoping that weget something.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
I don't want to start here, but what are we listening
to at the moment?

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Pink Floyd.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Okay, yeah, sorry guys, I didn't mean to.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
There's something in the background I'm like.
In the world is this I got toskip this one, because I really.
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Okay, sorry, you can continue.
No, that's okay.
I was just like what in theworld?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Because that's what's going to happen.
We're probably all ADHD at thispoint in this world, with all
the crap we eat and everythingwe spent 30 minutes going over.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Oh my gosh, we was into.
Well, at the end we was intowhat Rod Stewart Talking about.
We only talked about Rod.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Stewart, because there's a certain someone here,
not me, that his mom was reallyinto some Rod.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Stewart, she was, and that's how I know Rod.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Stewart and.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I thought it was pretty good as a kid too.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
But I will say that does lead me into my next
question.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Okay, I didn't mean to cut you off your own, no, no,
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Because I could go there, but it's really just more
like I'm curious to see whathappens with that Like happens
with that?
Like I want to see in 45 days,like what, what information
we're actually going to get.
Yeah, because, especially likeyou start talking not that
there's not conspiracy aroundmartin luther king, there's way
more I feel like around jfk likeyeah, there is what actually
happened because there's a lotof like oh, we really think it's

(45:22):
.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, we really think it's whatever.
Can we get the truth about themoon landing?

Speaker 1 (45:26):
come on, let's do that listen I feel like we
already all know it's justthere's a few people that still
argue I just want somebody toprove it I just I have a hard
time with the moon landing.
Before we make the switch onour next topic.
Again, you know I'm a rulefollower, so there's still a lot
of things that like I justdon't care, I just let let it be
that.
But I'm gonna start calling youthe rule follower but when you

(45:49):
get into something like the moonlanding and you say, well, we
lost the technology to get there, that makes no sense to me.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
You know, as a kid I never questioned it Like you.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
was just taught that in school as a kid, we were
basically taught not to questionthings.
Isn't that what school is, in away?
But again, the victor controlsthe history yeah the winner
controls it.
So there's probably so manythings throughout history that
we don't really know 100 thetruth.
We know one side of the story,but I tell my kids, hey, sorry,

(46:21):
there's three sides of everystory.
Yeah, yours, theirs, andsomewhere in the middle is the
truth.
The truth.
It may it may be much moretowards your side, it may be
much more towards their side,but somewhere in that middle
ground is the truth.
The truth.
It may be much more towardsyour side, it may be much more
towards their side, butsomewhere in that middle ground
is the truth.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
That's where, even if they told us about the moon- or
MLK JFK.
Whatever they're going to putout, I don't know if I'm going
to 100% believe it still Well ifthey come out and tell me to go
to the moon.
But thanks for confirming weare, we, we know that's a little
different, but I don't expectthem to ever come out and say
that.
I expect them to come out andsay, yeah, there's our loud

(46:54):
truck going by he's a muffler um, I expect them to come out and
say something like well, we didand we didn't actually use
technology here.
We did, we didn't actually getvideo, yeah we faked the video,
but we were there.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, exactly that.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
That's what I'm not going to say and so I kind of
think that's what's going tohappen with the other things.
And, by the way, I think weshould just do something with
our listeners.
Let's just raise some money andget that man a muffler.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
We've got to figure out who he is.
We're going to do a GoFundMe.
We're going.
When I was young, I wanted mytruck to be loud.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I had a motorcycle back in the day.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I wanted it to be loud, like it was like yeah,
fast and loud, like don't get mewrong Like I'm big into cars,
love cars, like that's somethingI'm still very much into.
A fast car should be loud, ifno.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I'm with you there.
I don't know, but the big beefytrucks they can kind of be loud
, but have you seen that truck?
But it's old, it's like an oldschool, you know, I don't know,
it's what they would classify asa POS.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
I'm sorry, Like I hate to say that, but that's
what most people would classifythat as it belongs in the
junkyard.
I don't know, it's pretty rough, but it's not one of those that
you're like oh man, that's oneof those classic old Fords,
that's one of those that acouple more days of rust and
it's falling apart.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, but you can drive that thing around on the
farm still, you know, and haulsome hay in it Until the bed
falls off and you can't put anyhay in it anymore.
All right, it's pretty rough.
Hey you know if you'relistening.
Whoever you are, I like thetruck.
Stop by, let's check it out.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Drive by somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
We always comment on it because it's so loud in the
background, because what if hedoesn't drive by?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
and we're going to be like where is he at?
I hope nothing happened to him.
Yeah, he finally got a job.
He had to go to bed early.
Oh my gosh, you're justthrowing shots at this man.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
You don't even know this man.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
No, that's probably like figure out who it is, and
I'm like, I'm probably like, ohyeah, I know him yeah I'm sure I
do probably so, but and thenit'll be a very different story.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
But until then we can kind of pretend it's whatever
we want and just make the story,I guess, whatever you want to
do.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Um, yeah, back to the moon landing.
How we got stuck on moonlanding for a bit I thought we
was going to music, so we arevery soon, because you know
we're we're back at some tompetty for like yeah so with that
we go into music.
My question, and but I thought,was I'm I'm so confused at the
moment.
I thought you said moon landingwe were going to moon landing,
and then you hit music, and tompetty made me think of where I

(49:18):
was going okay so I want to makethat switch I didn't know I
could change conversations thatquick.
All right, I'm learning, becauseif I get on the moon landing we
might be there a while and I'mafraid to really go down that
rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Um, maybe another day , you know um, for to be a rule
follower.
You got some conspiracytheories out there that you kind
of don't get me started.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
I know we'll be here.
You wind me up on that.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
We're gonna have a five-hour podcast I'll be over
here like yeah, uh-huh yeah,some stuff the cia is
declassified.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
I mean we'll get into some deep stuff.
You don't want to go thereright now.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Some of those get way too deep for me.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
So there's some very crazy out there ones.
I don't really go much withthose, but there's a lot that
I'm like it's too borderline forus to just be like it.
100% was this.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Like there's just too much, that's like that's a's a
little questionable.
Well, maybe when it's a littleslower I'll just get you going
and I'll just sit back and belike all right, that may be our
second podcast, that it's just.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Hey, come listen to tyler talk about conspiracy
while david says uh-huh, becausethat's what.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
That's what that would be for the most part.
So you're like, really likesome of them I get behind, so oh
, yeah, and there's some likeeven I'll make comment on that.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
I'm like I can't get with that one.
It's just too much.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
A lot of them.
I can agree something's weird.
But I can't go to the extentthat they say what it might be
and I'm like, no, I mean yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
You question the weirdness but you can't go here.
There's some people that theyautomatically go as far as they
possibly can with it.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Like my mind doesn't naturally do that.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Like I want to get on flat earth stuff and you know
yeah but that's.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
I feel like that's been disproved too much.
Not to the crazy people.
Yeah, some flat earthers weretrying to confirm their theory
and they confirmed they werewrong.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Oh, I've seen stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
I think it's so funny With some things that I'm like
God man, you just have to feeldumb in that point.
But again, that's, that'sscience.
At some point, like when youhave a hypothesis and you're
wrong, you kind of then justhave to go where it takes you.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Everything starts off as yeah.
How about this?
Why don't we?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
go to Galileo that the earth was the center of the,
the but you know what bringseverybody together?
Music.
You just really want to getback to it.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
You're trying to really see how quick I could
change the topic again.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Not that quick, I'm still there.
Um so my music question.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
We.
We've listed a bunch of musicso far tonight.
We're I, we're, I don't know 30minutes into this 54 hour, we're
gonna have to put together someof the beforehand stuff that we
thought, because it'd be awhole nother episode, oh gosh,
things we talked about it wouldbe hard to follow because it's
all over the place in thepodcast so my question we've and

(52:02):
we've kind of talked about thisa little bit before both of us
kind of naturally gravitatetowards that 90s and early 2000s
, because that's just the agethat we were, you know, for you,
I mean, you were starting todrive what early 2000s?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
so when you think of this late, so if you're thinking
of, like when you had controlof the radio or you had control,
what you're really doing, musicwas such a big part of my
childhood, even as a young kid,like I felt, like I was always
listening music, whether it wason a radio, a cassette tape my
parents had, or for younglisteners go look up what that

(52:37):
is.
Yeah exactly right.
Then we went to cds after that.
I don't know if you know whatthat is either um you you know,
I felt like in the car the radiowas on, or or get home from
school, when you turn on eithersome kind of music videos
Whether it's CMT and you listento country music or TRL.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
It's so weird now because everything's streaming.
Everything is.
We've gone away from.
Now.
You're using whatever you have,whether it's an iPhone or
whatever smartphone, and you'restreaming something from there.
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
I very seldom turn a radio on in the car.
I couldn't do the last time Ihave if I do, it's going to be
like one of the christianstations or something, right, uh
, like was it?

Speaker 1 (53:11):
like I just I don't turn the radio on because then I
have to listen to commercialsoh, and then I'm like all right
now I'm ruined, like I so usedto spotify, where it's just well
, see, I was that way, yourdisposal.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I'm the same way with music.
I was with the tv when acommercial come come on.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I'm changing it, yeah , switching the channel.
So.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I watch everything, everything I record.
I skip commercials, evensitcoms I want to watch.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Well, my brother used to torture me when he was
driving and obviously you knowhe's the older brother so he had
to take me, you know, pick meup from school, different stuff
so he'd torture me.
He had a little uh, hondaprelude, like early 2000s honda
prelude time.
Um, and we're both large fellas.
Obviously we're not as big thenas we are now, um, you know,

(53:57):
height wise, but you know we'venever been little.
So I mean we you know you're inthat car he had six presets of
the radio and he had six countrystations saved.
That's it so if you knowanything about me.
I'm not a country music fan.
I've just never been able toget around because you don't
know what's good here we goagain.
All right, we've got good musicplaying, not this current song,

(54:18):
we've got good music playing.
This is good music.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
This is good music, like I can listen to.
A little bit of everything, uh,except new stuff we've had that
conversation a lot of the newstuff I don't listen to.
So is Brad a country music fanat all?
Or just to torture you?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
So he was.
Okay, he was.
I couldn't really begin to tellyou what his true music taste
is now.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
But that was probably 90s country right, kind of that
time frame.
Oh yeah.
Well, 90s and 2000s yeah,that's the good stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
But Brad was always like, he loved Sinatra, he loved
.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Dean Martin.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
He loved some of the old stuff, but we liked a lot of
the same music for the mostpart.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Right now I'm being Welcome to the Jungle.
Right, little Guns N' Roses, Ican't do that because when I
played football in high school,the arrival across town was the
Jaguars and they called theirplace the Jungle.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
We had to hear this.
It was north, right yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Okay.
So every time I went there, wehad to hear this song, even
though the song was a good song.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Rosman oh, did they do the same thing.
Oh, did they do the same thing?
Okay, that was what they did.
Yeah, your opinion.
You're probably gonna be wrong,but in your opinion I am never
wrong.
In your opinion, I thoughtwe've established greatest era
of music I you know it's kind ofhard to be put on the spot that

(55:37):
way.
I know it is because I'm justcurious kind of where you
naturally go to so what do youlike?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
define a uh an era, I guess 60s, 70s I'm going by
year.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Okay, not necessarily by genre, because genres have
changed very much.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
It talked to me because I'm I'm sure I'm going
to say 90s, because I know 90smore but.
I loved a lot of the stuff youknow 70s, 80s, the, because my
parents was a lot of that.
True, with the, um, kind of doyou call it southern rock or I
don't know what you call it the70s, 80s rock, what you call.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Today, everything has a category and subcategory and
so, like it's just, it's reallyhard to define.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
We've been listening to a lot of stuff tonight and
it's all so good.
But because I wasn't alive inthe time period, I don't know
everything.
Like I know the 90s, like Iknow every genre of the 90s,
from true, from rap to rock toyou know country and and
everything in between.
You know r&b was big in the 90sso I kind of know all that um,

(56:42):
I can tell you some bluegrassstuff.
I can tell you, you know, butit's all from that 90s, you know
, getting into 2000s a littlebit right so I'm gonna say 90s
but that.
But there's some really goodstuff before that too.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
So after it I don't kind of get it for me, but I get
reminded a lot of some musicthat I kind of forget about.
But I'm I'm the same way, kindof minus country.
I can listen to a little bit ofeverything, um, and even then
like there's some country.
I mean, obviously my wife lovescountry music, so anytime we're
like around you guys, if you'vegot stuff like there's a lot of
country music played and I candeal with it Like it's not, like

(57:13):
, oh, my gosh, I need to go.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I'm playing country music every time I'm around you.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
No, I will turn it off.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
I'm also not afraid to do that Nope, nope, but and
again, especially like some ofit's okay music, but it doesn't
remind me at all of 90s country.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
But for me, if I'm going to go kind of greatest era
, just kind of overall, I feellike it's got to be the 80s.
I said there's some good stuffthere and that's kind of weird.
There's some 80s music youlisten to and you're like this
sucks, just the sound, it's justnot good.
So I brought up a list and it'stelling me top five overall

(57:57):
artists, with some honorablementions from those eras.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
See, I like country music and I don't really know
much about country in the 80s.
There's some there that wasdecent.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
I don't know that that was like.
Obviously country's always beenpopular, so I'm not saying that
, like George Jones and You'reasking the wrong person.
I know you don't know.
I mean you just asked me yeah,wasn't it like Sure it was?

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Whoever it was it was kind of some of those guys.
Keith Whitley Keith Whitley'sreally good, by the way.
I couldn't tell you who that is.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Oh, you'd to, but okay, so.
So, like you said, 90s, and I'mjust going to read per this,
the top five and some of thehonorable mentions number one,
mariah carey, number two,nirvana, then janet jackson,
tupac, tlc.
That's the top five they'velost their mind so that is um.
This is saying the top fivedefinitive.
So I don't know what they'rereally truly considering that I
mean, that would obviouslywouldn't be my top five of the

(58:51):
nineties, but that's just whatthey're saying.
I mean, they were good, but thenit goes into boys.
I'm in biggie radio head greenday.
Alison chains.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Oh, this is a good song we had coming on right here
.
Maroon five right the greatesthits of all time list, that's
hard to.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
It's too new for me to consider it yet.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
It might not be that song, but Maroon 5 was good.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Into some Led Zeppelin.
So then, when I go into the 80s, though, the 5 list
automatically blows the 90s outof the water.
Michael Jackson, madonna, prince, bruce Springsteen can't read
Bruce Springsteen, bon Jovi,Like the five versus five it's

(59:35):
not even.
I'll be honest with you, Idon't love either five.
So I don't necessarily loveeither five.
But the difference for me islike there are so many bands in
the time and I feel like the 90swe had some bands we already
started to kind of make thatswitch to individual artists and
I think I just prefer bands asan overall.
So that's why I think I flockedto like a lot of the rock in

(59:56):
the 90s.
Yeah, all the bands went to rockand punk were rock but like a
lot of those other peoplealready starting to split, yeah,
so but that's when I think of80s and 70s.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
I love the bands.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
It's just like the beat to it and it was just more
kind of fun in a way it's likewe talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
You're just kind of chilling mellow Hanging out yeah
.
But yet it's still kind of rock, so I can get with it I mean
it's stuff that I can stilllisten to today.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Well, so, obviously, like my mom, one of her favorite
groups of all time is theEagles.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
So she loved music like that.
So growing up in the car youknow we listened to a bunch of
70s music, but you know that washer high school time, so it's
like we're listening to musicthat was popular for her then.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
So like I kind of got used to it, but it was never
one that I was like, oh, thissucks, like it was all pretty
good music.
That's kind of funny, though,because when I get in the car
with with my daughter right,I've got her listening to 90s
stuff.
Yeah, you know, her big thingthat she got on forever was jim
blossoms.
Like she'd loved two, threesongs of jim blossoms and just
wanted to listen to it all thetime, which it's a band that a
lot of people don't think about,but but they had a few big hits
.
Now, I don't think they had aton that was really good, but
what they had really good wasgood, I mean, it makes sense,

(01:01:15):
you kind of pass stuff on toyour kids.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Yeah, noah, likes music.
My oldest and there was a daywe were in the car and I had a
playlist going.
It was like 2000s rock and heheard uh, imagine dragons.
That's now his favorite I cansay I bet he loved him he
because it was like the beat toit and just it was fun and he

(01:01:39):
really liked it.
And so he every time he gets inthe car daddy, can we listen to
that?
And I'm like, well, I can'ttell you no, yeah, like you're
liking the music that I like, sowe're gonna go to it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
We're talking about the 70s and 80s and rock and
stuff that we like, whether it'syou know, journey led zeppelin
we did listen some some journeyearlier and not even just don't
stop believing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
But just journey is just good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
They're so talented um, leonard skinner, you know,
like I said back back then, andum, but is that music gonna get
lost now because I don't knowthat'm going to get in the car
and play that for my daughter,even though I enjoyed it.
It comes from our parents, iswhy we enjoy it more than
anything.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
It's surprising to see this on the list.
I'm trying to listen and hearwhat this is.
You'll know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
So is this music going to get lost because we're
not going to pass it on to ourkids?

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
But I will listen to this with my kid Because listen
to this with my kid because Ilike, lyrically, it's not always
the best, because you know sex,drugs, rock and roll, like it
wasn't always the greatest, butthere's a lot of it that I don't
feel like was as suggestive.
Now, don't wrong, there'splenty of suggestive stuff.
There's a lot that didn't feellike it was as suggestive as

(01:02:45):
kind of modern music.
So I'm like, I feel like it's alittle easier to listen to with
my kids.
Um, like my, my youngest, helikes anything that's got like a
fun beat yeah so they you knowwe've been listening to the
madagascar um soundtrack because, like it had a bunch of fun
beat songs, anything from themovies usually got some I'm

(01:03:05):
gonna say my fun stuff so that'swhat we've been listening to
one loves the Sing movies okayyep, I've seen the first one it
came on TV or something.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
I've watched it.
They're actually both prettygood, especially if you like
music, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
But speaking of that because you know, we get to
watch a bunch of cartoons,whether we want to or not.
We want to or not, we get towatch a bunch.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I mean to be honest with you, my house, it goes to
planets and everything elseStates, but not your kids'
favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
What's your favorite that your kids watch?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
So it's got to be something they watch now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
So a cartoon or a show that is a kid's show that
you can sit there and it's not.
You're not like just completelytuning it out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I can get into a lot of that stuff.
To be honest with you, with mydaughter we watched a lot of the
Disney shows as she was gettingolder and I still watch some of
those.
There's one called Henry Danger.
That's like a it's not acartoon.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Is that the superhero one or something?
It is.
Yeah, we actually watched themovie.
Yeah, that annoyed me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I didn't like it yeah , we actually watched the movie.
I didn't like it so I mean Ican get into like that.
We watched.
Uh, there was one that hadmusic in it, um, the cat noir
stuff and and ladybug and allthat.
We watched those with her.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
But uh, I can remember when she used to watch
that a bunch because it was justa little bit old for my oldest
at the time and it always kindof scared him a little bit.
I can remember that he neverliked it.
Um, so for us it's Bluey.
We love some Bluey Because bothmy kids like it.
It's easy to watch, it's kindof funny.
But I will say here recentlyand this has been going on for a

(01:04:41):
bit now my little one, he'safter my heart Because we are
watching the original PowerRangers, Like the OG, first one
that America got Mm-hmm man, isit dated?
I'd like to go back and watchsome of that, but I remember
playing that on Playground, soit's hard because it brings back
so many memories, mm-hmm,because I can remember waking up

(01:05:03):
early on a Saturday morning,going to sit down in front of
the tv to watch it like it wasyeah it just brought back so
many memories like watching thatand then it's not very good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Saturday morning would come on too like don't get
me wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
It's not very good, but it has so many memory, so
much nostalgia and memoriesbehind it.
It's like I love it and he he's.
I'll be honest, he's probably alittle young for it, but he
thinks he's a blue power rangerall the time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
So it's like there's much worse he could be watching.
I remember recess in elementaryschool, everybody's a Power
Ranger and you're like oh, I'mthe white Power Ranger, I'm the
blue Power Ranger, oh especiallywhen the green Power Ranger
came out and he was evil andthen turned into the white one
later.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Oh, that was everybody.
Everybody argued over that,because if you weren't him, you
were the red one.
Oh, you're just a loser.
Power Rangers the guys thatwere just in the background.
But for Reed, my youngest, heis huge into.
His favorite color is blue, sofor him, he is the blue Power.
Ranger.
I mean, if he's playingsomething, he will tell you.
I'm a blue Power Ranger.

(01:06:01):
But he also watches some of thenewer ones and they're hard to
watch.
The others have nostalgia, sothe new ones are tough Well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I say we?
My wife here recently, veryrecently, has got our boys
watching Tom and Jerry.
I love some Tom and Jerry andthey love it.
They will sit there and crackup.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Do your kids like Grizzly and Lemmings?
I don't know what that is.
It is basically a Canadianversion of Tom and Jerry.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
I've never seen it.
It's hilarious.
I'll have to check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
It's very similar.
It's just kind of the goofylike chasing each other.
Basically they're fighting overNutella like some off-brand
Okay, but it's really funny Likethat sounds dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
You just made that sound interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
I know, but like it's actually Can't wait to watch
that.
Like there's a bunch oflemmings and always some weird
thing happening.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
One of my favorites growing up was Roadrunner, and
so I actually put that on todaya little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Wile E Coyote and Roadrunner.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Yep, like in these cartoons, especially that one,
there's like no words oranything but it was funny,
nobody cared.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
No, like we would sit there and watch that forever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I'm trying to think what other like the new stuff
that we watch, because for usit's like Bluey and Peppa Pig
and they're both okay.
We don't watch Peppa.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
We're into Bluey.
Like I said, reed watches somePower Rangers outside of that.
Like Noah likes to watch somePokemon stuff.
He's, at that age, kind of intothat, but they're kind of
similar.
They like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Like noah loves to watch learning things yeah, and
that's always at my house, likethat's that's kind of more what
he's into than anything like ifhe gets his mindset on something
he's gonna go learn about it mythree-year-old will sit on the
couch and have a video playingshowing countries all around the
world, and it's talking abouttheir per capita dollars and
he's like, I'm like whatcountries I've never even heard

(01:07:53):
of.
And he's sitting there singingand dancing.
He's gonna be doing all kinds ofmoney stuff when he grows up
yeah, they would prefer to geton like a kid's youtube, or or
sometimes they get on actualyoutube if we control what
they're watching, um, andthey'll just pick random stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
So I'm sure you probably know this song, but for
me I hear this song andimmediately think Guardians of
the Galaxy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
I don't know what that is Marvel.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
I know you don't watch any of that stuff, but
it's just like.
That's like country music toyou, no, but it's this.
So Guardians of the Galaxy he'sso.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
So you gotta tell about what the song is though at
least uh, this is, come and getyour love okay, um, but if
you've seen that movie like it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Just that movie's full of the 70s and 80s music,
so it just fits.
So because it's very kind ofall over time or whatever, but
that's what I think of when I Ithink of this now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
I can also remember being in the car as a kid, mom
listening music has such aconnection to everything it does
we was talking earlier how youremember music in certain
commercials and I don't rememberthe product, but I remember the
song in the commercial rightand then it's tied to movies but
are they?

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
are they doing themselves a favor by doing that
?

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
no, because I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
If I remember the song, but I don't remember the
product like is that reallyhelping?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
I mean maybe when it was, when the commercial was
like airing and we actuallywatch commercials.
Maybe the song comes my headand that product we don't really
watch commercials at this pointno, so we're kind of over it at
this point, years later, thatthat might be why I don't
remember in the moment it mightwork, or maybe it used to work
when, like you said, when weactually listened to commercials

(01:09:32):
watched them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Maybe I think what always was easier for me was
like if you had a good jingle,like yeah, I mean even even as
one as dumb as the old uh jgwentworth commercials like yep,
there was a comedian that did athing that he was talking about,
like bet you, everybody knowsthis and he sings it.
And then everybody finishes andit's like didn't even know that

(01:09:53):
.
You remembered that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Yeah, it was probably on while you're watching jerry
springer probably so it was oneof those type one of those type
commercials in between all thoselike just terrible tv shows
that were on but there was a lotof commercials like that that
you remembered and you kind ofhad to watch the commercial.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
You didn't get to fast forward well, like that and
like the general commercials,especially once they start
putting like shack on there,like yeah, you remember those,
which is weird.
For some reason, insurancecompanies have very memorable
either commercials or jingles orsomething, whether it's geico
and their gecko or yeah, theyhad the caveman before that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
And like I got the caveman, exactly that might have
offended some people orsomething.
Maybe offended cave people, Idon't know they're, you know
since there's so many of them.
I saw today brian actuallyshared on uh, not amused
facebook.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
If you don't know, check it out uh, the e-trade
baby yeah, yeah I love that youtrade commercials talking about
all the Super Bowl commercialsand stuff.
That's the one time I think Iget excited about commercials.
Oh, I'll randomly Becausethere's so many People hold on
all year to put a new commercialout for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
They pay millions for those spots, you know my wife
or somebody will say somethingto me and I'll walk through the
house and go apparently this isfrowned upon in this
establishment.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Yes, riding the dog like a horse and you know some
of those E-Trade commercials aregreat Like, of course you use a
talking baby.
People notice it, they rememberit.
It's just really funny.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
But it was the lines that was with it.
And then I remember the Doritoscommercials with the little boy
.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Don't touch my mama.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Don't touch my Doritos.
I knew where you were goingwith that, just by saying it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Those are so good.
There's a ton of really goodhorses.
Everybody remembers the bigClydesdales for Budweiser, which
I don't drink, no, but it'sstill so recognizable, like if I
see one of those out, I thinkof that.
Oh yeah, like just naturallyyou're like oh yeah, those are
from that, or like a polar classthat horse, that's a budweiser
polar bear.

(01:11:48):
Polar bear, coca-cola.
There you go.
Yeah, exactly, it's justsomething that you 100 just
attach.
Whether it fit, like, how doesa polar bear fit coca-cola, we
don't know.
But that's where our minds go.
Ice cold coke that's the onlything I can come up with.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Yeah, but like trying to make you think cold, maybe
you know.
I saw a thing, um, it was kindof interesting to me.
They were saying when you havea coke machine sitting somewhere
and then you add a pepsimachine next to it, I saw, did
you see that?
and they were talking about howyeah you would think like
they're going to split sales nowand.
But they say when?
When you have a coke machinesitting there, you're deciding

(01:12:26):
do I want a coke or not?
And so sometimes you don't buyone.
When you have a coke and apepsi machine, you're deciding
do I want a Coke or not?
And so sometimes you don't buyone.
When you have a Coke and aPepsi machine there, you're
deciding do I want a Coke or aPepsi?

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Right, you never think I don't want one at all.
You're not thinking, do I wantsomething or not?

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
I'm thinking which one do I want?
And so when you think about it,it's almost saying our minds
are so simple, we can't havemore than two.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Well, but that's part of what's wrong with a lot of
people is you have too manychoices in a lot of situations.
I agree Like you have too manyoptions.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
You know how many times we can't decide what we're
going to eat for dinner ifwe're eating out.
Don't get me started on my wife.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
I don't know, just whatever.
And then you name a hundred andthere's never a right answer.
I'm going to start doing theone commercial video going to
Well, speaking of that, becauseyou said Coke and Pepsi and I
didn't even have this on thelist.
But which one?
That's a debated thing.

(01:13:17):
That's a debated thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
I'm going to be honest with you.
I have said Pepsi forever.
Okay, the past six months Iwill randomly crave a Coke.
It's not something I bring inthe house very often.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I'm a dr pepper drinker, correct, I know that.
So that's why I didn't ask yousoda overall?
Yeah, because like when you getdown to just like cola, like
just kind of a generic cola,it's either pepsi or coke I was
always pepsi here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
lately I've been kind of shifting to coke a little
bit, if I, if I'm not drinking aDr Pepper.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
So what's really weird to me is, especially in
the South, they're like, well,pepsi's the drink of the South.
The Coca-Cola headquarters arein Atlanta, I know.
So it's like, okay, which one'struly the drink of the South
For me, I'm going to pick Pepsievery time, and I couldn't
exactly tell you why.
I wouldn't drink either now,yeah, so I'm I'm not super picky

(01:14:14):
on it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Mcdonald's, for whatever reason, does have
really good coke.
I don't know why it's better um, but it is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
I could be wrong.
This is one of those weirdstats or weird information
things that I just feel like.
I know mcdonald's coke isdifferent than every other coke.
It's good they they apparentlystill have a contract of an old,
okay version.
Well, that makes sense.
So because, yeah, their, buttheir coke doesn't taste like
coke.
You go get the store, so it'svery different.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
We went to um somewhere and got.
We was on our way home and wewent through a drive that was
kind of traveling off somewhereand I don't know if it was
McDonald's or what, and I got aCoke and it was pretty good and
I just didn't have enough of itor something I think it was, and
I was like, oh man, I reallywant a Coke.
I'm going to swing over here inthe gas station and have a Coke
.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
It was nowhere near the same.
Those don't A McDonald's Coke.
To me is you.
If you say Coke, pepsi orMcDonald's Coke, that feels like
a completely different drink,because if you go to the store
and buy a Coke or buy a Pepsi,you're not buying what you're
getting from there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
I think it tastes different too between a can or
bottle or fountain drink.
Obviously, I love fountaindrinks are way better than any
of them, I think 100%.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
So to me, all right.
Right, we'll take out fountaindrink, because fountain drinks
to me is different, because eachplace can then kind of mix it
different depending on what youknow, their, their settings on
their machines.
Are you naturally leaningtowards a bottle or a can bottle
?
Why I like what?
What is your signification, soI can tell you for me I go to a

(01:15:48):
bottle because there's more.
Well, I think Because to me,like, if I'm going to spend what
these cost nowadays, I'm justlike I'm going to get more for
my money, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
So I used to think, okay, if I have a bottle, I can
drink half of them, but they'lllive back on.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
And I'll do that if I'm out throughout the day,
whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Typically, I don't I drink it.
I'm going to finish it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
But if I like at home , I'll have some.
I'll get the smaller bottles oflike Dr Pepper and if I only
drink like half of it and put itin the fridge the next day, it
tastes horrible, it's flat.
I will not drink it, but that Ifeel like touching it.
It's nasty, but I think theytaste better.

(01:16:32):
In the bottle In the bottle andI have this weird thing.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Okay, here we go.
Yes, you're weird, I'm aware ofthis.
So what's the weird thing?

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I'm not a germaphobe, but I wash my hands a lot.
You're a germapho, but a lot ofthings, yes, okay, that can you
have a can sitting there rightnow, the top of that can, or you
put your mouth, you'd have noidea where that's been, what's
been on it Nothing.
And it's been exposed eversince it was manufactured,

(01:17:01):
correct.
That's weird to me.
Like it's, it could be sittingin a soda machine, it could have
a rat running across it, butyou don't know so here's the
thing the chemicals in that sodathat I'm drinking are way worse
than what I'm putting my mouthon.
I can promise you I meanpossibly, but I still don't want
to put my mouth on that, and Iwill never get a canned soda

(01:17:22):
that I don't at least take myshirt or something, wipe off the
top of it if I've got wateryour shirt's doing so much.
Listen, my shirt's a whole lotcleaner than that.
Because I'm a germaphobe, I'mtelling you my shirt's cleaner,
I'm changing it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
So the thing for me I usually will buy a bottle
because, like I said, there'smore in it, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Because when I start drinking something like, too,
you buy the largest one.
Um, that's just different.
I just love ice cream.
That's a whole different beingfat love an ice cream.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
That's a dangerous thing.
I didn't call you fat, I did, Iwas.
I wasn't saying you did.
I'll be like.
I know you like ice cream.
I love that's best.
Best dessert for me is me icecream.
That's what I'm naturally gonnapick.
Just gotta mix cake with it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
No, that's, that ruins it um no, no, no, I don't
want them separate, I want themlike mixed in the bowl so for me
, I naturally will go buy aBottle because there's more.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
I like the taste of a can better Because it's
stronger.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
It's because you're getting all that metal in there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
No, I actually learned why it's the sun.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
The way that it does in the plastic.
They almost, it's almost like adifferent drink, because the
light is constantly changing it.
The heat is changing it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
There's so many differences to it.
We've seen bottles we put inour vending machine at the range
.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Yeah, look at them right now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
They are not the same .
The colors change.
We've had cans explode in thesun.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
But a can.
To me, the taste is always thesame, it's always consistent,
because I've went to a storeknowing I like Pepsi and I'm
going to pick a Pepsi over aCoke.
But I'll get it and it doesn'ttaste right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Do they have cans in a convenience store anymore,
like in the coolers Some?

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Some they're usually the tall can.
Okay, they have some of those,and not every store, but most of
them it's usually just a verysmall selection.
I never look for cans.
It's a very small selection.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
I get cans at like Walmart.
They have the vending machineoutside.
That's cheap.
Oh yeah, that's a super cheapvending machine.
It's like a dollar or something, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
That's sad to say, because a can used to be 50
cents.
We're talking, you know.
Hey, look how old we are, youknow.
Then I'll make fun of my dadwho's like.
I remember when milk was anickel, like you didn't buy milk
, you had a cow, you didn't haveto worry about it they used to
take 50 cents and get a soda popand a candy bar and a pack of
chips.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Soda pop where?
Who are you?
No, when you're talking aboutback in the day, it was soda pop
that's what they called it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
That's probably more sody pop than anything pop.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Probably put the the y on you know that's um, you
know the north and and where youknow I'm from, in kentucky,
lived for so many years.
It was pop, pop, pop, pop andbut what was it in georgia?

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
because y'all were there for a while it was soda
okay.
And because amanda says both,she's back and forth yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
So yeah, when I was, when I was a kid, it was soda,
and then we moved there and itkind of became pop and back here
and I like saying soda again.
To be honest with you, I don'treally like pop.
That just sounds weird to meOkay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
So there's soda and there's pop.
What do you think about thosepeople that call everything Coke
Weirdos?

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
no-transcript.
Say I want a pepsi, you want apepsi, maybe, but the coke yeah.
I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
That's weird to me if I'm saying I want a coke, you
need to hand me the red can coke.
Exactly yeah, like that.
That's what I'm expecting.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
I say soda anymore.
Pop may slip in every now andthen, just from kentucky but
yeah, for the most part.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Amanda switched fully to soda.
Yeah, she there for a long timeit was, but it wasn't that hard
because we wasn't you had both.
Yeah, you didn't we kind ofheard both.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Yeah, I get that, I do get that now my wife still
says pop a lot of times.
I don't know if if I'll everget a transition.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
I'll make fun of her forever for a lot of things she
says, because it's just randomlythe hick comes out, because
typically she's not supercountry with her speak.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
She's not really hick , I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Oh, some stuff is.
Is it hick?

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Some stuff gets hick.
See, I think she gets hickswith certain words.
Oh, I make fun of her too, yeahthat's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Listen, I'm equal opportunity, haley has this, my
wife Haley.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
she has words, she says a certain way, but I don't
know if it's hick, I don't knowwhat the term is for it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
So I mean part of it's just some of the dialect
that she speaks in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Maybe you call it country or so overall she is
country.
Yeah, like her speak is justnaturally country.
She's from rural kentucky.
Yeah, makes sense.
But there's some things thatshe says that just have an extra
twang.
It gets that extra hick.
And she knows when she does it,because I'll look at her and
she just usually at this pointtells me to shut up when, but
when the two of them gettogether, it gets worse oh yeah
well, so what I notice is umlike for for a whole brian's

(01:22:18):
country.
I don't think he's super hick,but when hayley's talking to
brian, it gets.
It gets way worse because it'slike just, it's like being back
home for her or like when?
When her dad's here, yep, itgets way worse, but so does
Amanda when she's in theretalking with all of them and
we'll go home.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
I'm like this is a little more hip than usual
you're gonna have to tone itdown I have to say I mean I've
got some too, because I did livein.
Well, I lived in Georgia, ingeorgia, for several years and
then kentucky for the largestpart of my childhood.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Um, so I definitely have some words, too, that that
come from that kentucky area butwe also realized last night you
were born in the same placethat our current vice president,
I know yeah and middle townthere was a lot of like weird
similarities of like where y'allwere in different times.
I'm like that's Kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Well, but I found out he's two years older than me
and vice president.
I'm like behind.
I got to do something.
You got to do something betterwith your life.
Yeah, I'm like oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
He is advanced.
Well, but quite a while ago hewrote a book that turned into a
movie that, so you're way behind.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
I'm going to start writing it out, I guess I don't
know.
I don't know what you're CauseI talk about.
I'm from all these differentplaces and, um you know, I spent
from like middle school tilllate twenties in Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Right, yeah, that was your largest.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Yeah, I spent some time in Southern Ohio, I spent
time in South Florida, I spenttime in Georgia, you know, time
in, obviously, kentucky and nowNorth Carolina.
So I kind of was a lot ofdifferent places.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Yeah, I mean you more , more than most people move,
cause I mean most people likelike for me, I've moved
obviously more once I gotmarried.
You know cause you're differentand you're starting your life,
but you know, growing up as akid twice, I mean we didn't move
much.
Yeah, I mean we the being bornin Texas and we moved here when

(01:24:13):
I was like nine months old, yeah, so I don't really remember
that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
But then after that, Would anybody do that today?
Because the story for me is thefirst time we moved, which we
went back to Ohio at one point,but the first time we moved I
was like two weeks old, okay,moved all the way to South
Florida from Ohio.
What was the reason for thatmove.
I was two weeks old man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
I don't know.
I know, but when you talked toyour family as you were older,
what I don't know, Maybe mygrandparents lived there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
I don't know if my grandparents already lived there
or not, because I know theylived there when we did too.
Okay.
This is a really good song, bythe way.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Completely forgot it exists.
This is a really good song bythe way, completely forgot.
It exists, yeah, so continue soanyway, we'll tell the people
what it is.
It's secondhand serenade.
Most people don't even know whothat is yeah, probably not.
But that's a little emo for alot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
But it's like a slower, he's like actually
singing song, so it was reallygood Singing through his nose.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
It's still good though.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
I, I don't care, it's still good.
But no, I don't know why wemoved there.
I remember it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
My grandparents lived there too so maybe it was for
that.
Yeah, well, I mean, like for us, when I moved when I was nine
months old, all of dad's familyis from here.
Yeah, he grew up, was born andraised here, so it was just kind
of come back to where all thefamily was, just easier.
Well, see most of my familystarted in the southern ohio
kentucky area, and that's wherewe ended up later in life.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
But we kind of moved away from it and came back um.
But what I was saying is couldyou imagine, like when you had
your kids them nine months oldor even two weeks going?

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
yeah, we're going states away, we're just well, I
mean, that's like you know, momand dad, halfway across the
country yeah, put them in thecar and let's go.
I mean, yeah, just up andabsolutely leaving.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
I mean, I guess that's better than when they're
in school, because you've got topull them out of school and all
that stuff to change things.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
They don't know any better.
They don't.
They don't know anything.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
But it just feels weird taking a baby that young
and just throwing them in a carseat for hours.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Was, I don't know, but I would rather do it then
Than I would like now With mykids.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
There's too many connections.
It just feels unsafe though Toomany things.
It feels unsafe to be in a carseat that long, but again, like
I said, I don't know if I was ina car seat.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
But you go on vacation.
I mean, we've been on vacationwith kids.
Every year we're in the car forhour upon hour.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
But I feel like when my kids were really young, we
purposely picked places thatwasn't as far away, not from
texas.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
I think that was just because we were a little more
poor than we are now?
Well, maybe, but like we'vekind of upped our vacations a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
The furthest I remember going would have been
up to virginia.
It was up there like sevenhours, something like that.
I think yeah, I remember takingmy youngest boy when he was
well, I guess he was about oneyes, he's little the other one
wasn't born yet and they're a ayear apart.
Yeah, he was little, but you'retalking from Texas up here.
I drove it a few years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
I remember.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
It was like 14 hours or something, I think yeah, so I
don't remember.
Well, he was in Dallas, right,so it might have been a little
more than that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Yeah, because we lived in Mesquite at the time.
But yeah, I mean I don't thinkit's that like.
As far as unsafe, I meanobviously you know you travel
with kids, you stop a lot more.
There's blowouts and there'sresting time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
The women they have their doctors, they get their
appointments they're going toafter they have a baby, your
checkups with your newborn andyou're just changed up Like it
had to be scary.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Oh yeah, I mean because that's the thing None of
the moves I've ever done havebeen very big.
I've not had massive moves Likewe moved within the state, you
know, an hour and a half away,like it wasn't a crazy move.
So, yeah, that's a little hard.
But again, like as they getolder, you think like elementary
school age, you got to find anew pediatrician, you got to

(01:27:57):
find new, and that's even justtalking about for them.
Oh yeah, we've done it.
Yeah, so there's a lot ofdifferent, different stuff.
You know life really changes.
But you know obviously you'remaking the move.
It's hopefully for the best ofreasons, so a little different.
Yeah well, all right, we got.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
We got to get off of such a low pace topic well, we
were talking about aboutKentucky, so I wanted to see if
you watched any of the Kentuckygame.
Yeah, the fact that they suck,I don't know what's happened.
Well, they don't have a pointguard right now.
That's part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
but there's money, get one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
You're going to bring one in the middle of the season
.
You have more than one.
Well no, they got two.
They're both hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I don't suck, I don't know, Well, no Something's
going on with them right now.
They lost again last night too.
Arkansas is not good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Arkansas is not good at all.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
And they got beat at home.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
But Cal and the three players that were at
Connecticut last year.
They wanted it bad, you couldtell those three players went
off this.
I've said this every year everyteam kentucky plays.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
this year it's more threes in the first half than
they average all season long forwhole games and I don't know if
it's the defense you onlynotice as a fan but, you only
notice as a fan because I'll saythis as many times that
carolina has been good and otherthan this year it's been most
years you'll sit here and saywhy does every team we play do x

(01:29:12):
, y or z?
Yeah, as a fan, you just noticeit and like, obviously you
can't say that for, like analabama you know that's a team
both of our teams usually havebeen playing they just hit a lot
of threes, they shoot a ton,they hit a lot, that's just what
their identity is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
I want to say it was arkansas.
They said, yeah, they averagedsix threes a game in the the
first half they hit nine.
Yeah, but now maybe that comesback to their defense, maybe
they're not playing good enoughdefense.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Well, Arkansas doesn't play defense.
No, I'm saying, Kentucky's notplaying good enough defense, oh
no but I'm just saying Arkansasdoesn't play defense and
Kentucky played less in thatgame.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Yeah, Kentucky's got to figure some defense out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
But what was more interesting than that?
And what?

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
everybody was excited for that was Cal coming back to
Rep Arena, booze galore.
There was a lot.
Now I think there was somecheering too.
It had been a debate.
Seth Greenberg and all thesenational guys, j Will, all those
guys talking about should youboo, shouldn't you boo?

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Absolutely boo.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
He's a coach coming in for the other team and I
thought I knew how I felt andthe night before I saw a um,
like a survey thing, a pollright.
I said survey, survey sounds soold school a survey says yeah a
poll that said if you was at thegame, would you cheer boo or
just be silent?
Right, and I started to clickboo and I was like man and I had

(01:30:31):
to second guess myself a littlebit.
Like what I, he did do a lotthere.
I don't hate the guy, I justhate the way things went.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
I'm so sick of hearing that, though.
Everybody keeps saying he did alot, what did he do?

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
I know, I know, but it was fun.
It was For the last 10 years.
He's the most overrated coachin college basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
I can't argue with that.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
But it was fun up to the last five there.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
But as a Kentucky fan , you're saying man, it was fun
being fifth every year.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
But when you stop and look at the players he had and
who he played and his allegianceto certain players, yeah, I
would have booed the entire time.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
So for me, like all the national people, all this,
they're saying, well, he did somuch for Kentucky.
No, he didn't.
Kentucky was a hugelyestablished program well before
he came.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
They were, but they had two years of Billy Gillespie
right before him.
But that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
They had Tubby Smith.
Before that They've had, youknow, adolph.
Before that They've had AdolphRupp.
They've had some of the big, ofbig.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
But Kentucky wasn't the cool school until Calabria
got there, like when he broughtin John Wall and DeMarcus
Cousins.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
I don't know that.
I agree with that because Ithink that was just the time we
were seeing a switch acrosscollege basketball, because we
were starting to see recruitingbecame more about not just the
history, not just this it's.
It started to get to what canyou do for me?
And I think that was across theboard because there was a lot
of places like you can't tell meduke's a cool place to go.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Oh, duke's never been cool, but but they've had some
dang good teams they've had somegood teams, but it was all the
the uh uncool kids.
I'm just gonna say it that way.
I don't know You're GraysonAllen tripping people.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
That's a little more modern, but yeah, he's still
doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
I don't know how he's still there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
But yeah, I mean you go back and like J Will and JJ
and some of those guys it's likenot your most popular guys that
you felt like went there.
Carlos Boozer, didn't Bills gothere?
Yeah, I was thinking he did.
So, yeah, like you have thoseguys.
But I just feel like that was achange in the time because,

(01:32:44):
like the same thing, like youcouldn't say Memphis was a cool
place to go no, I don't think so, but he brought a lot of people
to Memphis.
I will never argue with anyonethat he is one of the best
recruiters of all time.
I think you can't question that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
I still don't think he's a very good coach he has to
have the right people aroundhim and that's what's falling
off, and I've said that in thepast on the podcast that's just
to me.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
It's like well then, like don't go having coached.
I know the better the coachesare around you, the easier it
makes your job.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
I 100% agree with that, but you've got to know
your weaknesses In anything inlife.
Know your weaknesses and putthose around you that help you
with those weaknesses.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
But one thing he never did.
He knew he was weak on defenseand he never found somebody that
really helped him out with that, because they wouldn't coach
and coach defense until afterChristmas.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
But it's a thing you said about athletes.
They relied so much onathleticism that it was
positionless basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
Kind of just go out there and be long and tall and
jump.
I have my own feelings on that,you know, for kind of both
sides.
I'm not really just saying oh,it's awful, or whatever.
Both sides I see like where ithelps to have guys that can move
around and do a lot ofdifferent stuff.
It's just when I look atKentucky's last what?
10 years?
Basically one championship withteams that probably should have

(01:34:03):
won seven.
Well, that was 2012.
Yeah, so over 10 years.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
He was there 15 years .

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
The last five was, we're saying, 15 years and he
got one and they probably couldhave won half of them With the
talent that were on those teamsShould have.
So that's where I'm just like.
To me he grossly underperformed.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
They seem to always get in a game in the tournament
In the last five years,especially For somebody that
shouldn't beat them If they madethe tournament in the last five
years.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
There's one or two.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
they didn't, they did , but they got beat up first
round.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
They got beat first round of the NIT, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
Oh yeah, that happened that year too, but
nobody wanted to be there, whichthey shouldn't have been there.
It's their own fault to getthere.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Yeah, I mean, a couple years ago Carolina
declined.
You just don't go yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
Like to me.
I'd rather not of a beat.
It was a little small like5,000 people, jim.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
Yeah, but that's the thing.
You should be able to go outthere, not trying to beat those
teams yeah, you should whenyou're that level.
Like Carolina a couple yearsago got invited to NIT.
He was going to be number onein NIT and they said we're good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Our season's done.
It sounds like you're okaybooing him or has Kentucky fans
booing him.
When does it change?

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
20 years.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
When he leaves Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Like if he left.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Arkansas, two years from now.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
So I think that's kind of where we saw it changed
with Patino.
It wasn't when he was atLouisville, it was when he left
to the next team.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
So it really didn't change for Patino until Mark
Pope came this year.
That's when it big it was maybegoing away a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
It's been changed, not fully, but him and Cal hated
each other.
So as long as Cal was there, Iunderstand that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
But for a lot of fans their mind already kind of
changed on him quite a few yearsago when he got out of
Louisville, and yeah, becausethat's the thing A, because
that's the thing, a little bit,you can't be at Louisville
because it's a rival.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
They're never going to change.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
But he was Mark Pope's coach and they won a
championship in 96.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
But when you get when he was at Iona for a bit.
It's like there's nothing there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
He's at St.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
John's now and he kind of grew himself back into a
good coach where he wasbuilding a team there.
It's kind of like, yeah, wedon't really care anymore.
It was enough.
Time had passed Anything likethis with Calipari over the next
few years.
The recency bias of you leftour team.
For who?
Arkansas?

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Like Arkansas is not historically a basketball team.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Yeah, I don't think he left it for Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Oh, he left for money .
Tyson Chicken pays some money,man, oh I know.
But even right before he lefthe tried to get more money out
of UK.
I think kind of use it as someleverage.
And they was like nope, thankyou, we don't have to pay you no
more, See ya.
So I can tell you this I justdon't know when it's going to
change.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
I'm not a Calipari fan.
I'd take him over my coachright now.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
I'm sure you would.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
Huber Davis.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
I know you're never going to hear this, but man,
this is bad.
I've seen some people stickingup for him A buddy of ours on
Facebook really sticking up forhim.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Same one saying the players need to take
responsibility.
I think so.
I think he's lost his mindReally.
Yes, and me and him are verygood friends and agree with a
lot of stuff on Carolinabasketball, but I'm so sick of
everybody saying well, it's onthe players.
A coach has to set up yourplayers for success
Statistically.
Look at our lineups.
They're not good.
Yeah, they are.
They are minus in everycategory as a lineup.

(01:37:18):
They're like well, he doesn't,you can't, you can't use this
argument.
Well, he doesn't have the NILmoney, it's Chapel Hill, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
The home of.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Michael Jordan.
The home of Michael Jordan.
What do you mean?
You don't have money, Likemoney's not an option.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
But if you don't have it, that's your fault too.
Go get it.
That's where we're at, and ifyou don't want to go get it,
don't coach the last couple ofdays just came out.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
They hired a NIL manager.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
I saw this.
Actually, I'm not amused.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Yes, brian posted it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
I had seen put a comment on there.
The guy left Kentucky a coupleyears ago, left Cal Staff to go.
Be that for them.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
So I don't know what happened.
Maybe he didn't do a goodenough job, all that stuff, and
they're like well, huber Davisjust needs help with it.
Then get him help, that's fine.
If he's not good with that sideof it either, we need a coach
that knows how to do it all,because, whether you like it or
not, you've heard our statementson NIL across the board.
It is here to stay.
It's here.
This is the way it is.
So I have a really hard timewhere everybody's like well, the

(01:38:22):
players just don't seem likethey care.
They're tired of losing.
You don't go to Chapel Hill tolose.
Same way, you don't go toKentucky to lose.
You don't go to Duke to lose.
You don't go to UConn to lose,like you're going to these
schools because we're supposedto potentially be there every
year.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
What I hate, though, is when the season starts.
I'm sure Hubert Davis was thesame way.
Oh, I got a good team, I gotthe players I wanted, we yada,
yada, yada yada.
And then you start losing.
Oh, losing.
If I didn't have enough NILmoney to get who I wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
So to me, though, as a fan, I could tell you our
roster from the beginning of theseason we didn't have a good
team.
We don't have a single centeron the roster.
Yeah, that'll hurt you.
This is the most undersizedCarolina team I think I've ever
seen.
So Carolina, which is known,usually every year, the top
rebounding team in the country,especially offensive rebounding.

(01:39:09):
They do a great job of that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
We don't have any like we're having to get
rebounding from our guards.
They're bad this year.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
It's pathetic.
They're like 13 and 10.
Yeah, and then I saw one guy.
They're like, well, at leastwe're above 500.
I'm like wrong school to saythat.
Yeah, if you're, you knowVirginia Tech right now.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
yeah, we were good to be in 500.
But think about that Everyschool, even the good schools
Duke Carolina, kentucky, kansas,all of them, the first several
games are like nobodies.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Well, so for those schools, anymore you're playing
some big names first.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
Well, they are, but the teams you should still beat.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Well, no, but at the beginning of the season every
team Carolina played for likethe first four was top 15 teams.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
Well, maybe that's their problem.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
But they were playing like Michigan State, they were
playing, they played Kansas,they're playing a lot of
big-name schools.
And then we got to some of thelike Elon, you know, here in
North Carolina, beat them bylike nine and I'm like that is
worrisome.
Okay when you're playing thatfar down, which the past few

(01:40:14):
years Carolina has done it.
I mean, you go back severalyears.
First game of the season welost to Santa Clara and then we
blew everybody out for anational championship.
So it's like all right, youkind of make up for it One of
those losses like that.
You're like you got to getyourself in the season.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
I get it.
What You've got to get yourselfin the season, I get it.
What are you hearing ontournament?
They got a shot?
Heck?
No, you think so.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
No, we have to win the ACC tournament to get in.
That's it.
That's their only shot.
That ain't happening and theycould win that and still get
like an 11 seed, like it's thatbad at this point.
I don't think they're winningthat either, duke is going to

(01:40:55):
run away conference.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Um, the game they played this past saturday was
not a game, I mean at one point.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
It was like 40 to 15 but I'm seeing this again.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Oh, I know, I saw it.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I thought you were doingwith north carolina.
Yes, no, you text me and youwere like oh, my lord hey, is it
time for the coaching search?
And I mean I'm I've been on itfor a bit.
Yeah, I, I got into it kind oflate and I turned on, so the
score was like 40 to 50.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
I didn't like the hire.
I was not a Hubert Davis guywhen we hired him.
Hubert is actually a really,really really good assistant
coach.
I really think he is.
He is good for your program.
He's not the guy I want leading, not the head coach.
But Carolina has this.
Oh, we're going to hire fromyou.
Know you've got to be aCarolina guy, but to me that's

(01:41:33):
not.
Don't hire a guy that his firsthead coaching job ever.
That's a little tough.
That's a tough position to bein.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
I don't like that at any school.
But I, you know, looking at thescores and stuff this past
weekend, a lot of good teams arelosing again, Like it is just
beating up on each other, otherthan Duke is still doing well,
but they're in the ACC.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
There's a lot of talent across the board, though
the top 25 is a little sporadic.
It's a little all over theplace, but I'm really excited
for the tournament this year.
I don't know what to expect.
I think that's what excites meso much.
You know, espn always runstheir million-dollar perfect
bracket challenge Good luck.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
I was going to say good luck.
It's hard enough On a regularyear.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
that's hard enough, but then you get it this year.
It's so all over the map.
I mean, it feels like everyweek we have at least two or
three unranked being ranked.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
I wouldn't want to be on that committee that's trying
to seed everybody.
It's gonna be tough, becauseit's gonna be very tough say, oh
, they beat this team, this team, and they lost to these
nobodies.
And I don't know how you'regonna, I know they have, you
know, quad ones and twos.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
So to me it's like auburn duke you got one seeds,
congrats outside of that allright, let's find out yeah, I
mean it's we going to haveplaying games for the.
Iowa State was up there for asecond.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
They've lost two in a row, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
We've had.
You know, kentucky was up therefor a bit, you had Tennessee up
there for a bit, you hadFlorida up there for a bit.
Which the SEC?
They're getting like 10 teamsin.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
It's unbelievable, it's just full, you know being a
Kentucky Kentucky fan, watchingit and seeing Kentucky go beat
Tennessee and then lose toArkansas and the way they ran
with Alabama, I was going topull up the top 25 and the first
thing that pops up is an NBAgame 140 to 109.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
That's not fun to me.
I don't like that kind ofbasketball.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
Sorry continue back to no.
What you're saying is onereason I don't watch it, because
they just dribble the ball upand shoot from the logo, like
every time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
And it's Well.
Another ranked team got beat byan unranked.
Tonight Rutgers beat Illinois.
Okay, again, not teams.
We don't really see those teamsmuch, but still rank again is
going to be, but it's happeninga ton.
Tennessee had a good win overMissouri and then Duke won by 30
.
It's kind of just yeah, that'swhat they're going to do.

(01:44:01):
They're going to run througheverybody.
So, yeah, current you've got oh, I forget Alabama probably get
a one seed, and I don't think wereally question that at this
point.
They're playing really good.
They are Playing really, reallygood, the top five.
There's three SEC teams Still.
Currently you have Auburn,Alabama, Tennessee, Tennessee
coming back up there.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
They went to Florida and lost by a ton and then beat
Florida the other day.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
If you continue, top ten you've got Texas, a&m,
that's ten, florida that's six,tennessee, alabama, auburn, half
the top 10 is sec and I thinkright behind that you've got
kentucky.
Uh, maybe old miss mississippistate and old miss.
Yeah, you've got 10 rankedteams in top 25, so they're

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getting at least 10.
You would think I mean I, youcan't say a top 25 team is not
going to be in.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
I don't know.
So what does that do when theyjust keep beating each other?
Is it hurting everybody?

Speaker 1 (01:44:58):
So it hurts your obviously winning percentage, it
hurts your opponent'spercentage and then there's
opponent's opponents and that'skind of how they do the high
school stuff.
But part of it depends on whenyou got that loss.
Was it home or away?
Was it by how many points?
Like they look at all those?

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
little aspects.
A lot of these losses arehappening on the road.
Yes, Now Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
obviously that hurts less, I believe Now Arkansas
currently doesn't get in.
No, they're like 13 to 10, likeCarolina, like they've lost too
many at this point that They'velost too many at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
That'd be tough.
While we're on basketball, yep,roll with it.
We've said several times wecoach a youth girls basketball
team here that my daughter's onwe're currently sitting at 4-0
undefeated.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
right now We've got a coaching staff that's up for
coach of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
Yep, I agree.
I think we're the one givingthat award.
I hear their head coach is justtop-notch.
I don't hear him say much.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
No, so obviously we both coached this team.
Obviously, you really didn'task me, but of course I'm going
to do it.
It's my niece.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
I would absolutely help coach I knew you would, and
that's what you know you.
Uh, you've coached basketballbefore and I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Yes, yeah, I know the game, but you, within the past
few years, I was coaching ourlocal high school varsity boys
with our our good buddy paul,who was the head coach, and you
know me and will were assistantsthere on that that second year
there, yeah and uh.
So yeah, I mean it's just sofor me that's a little natural,
more for me, just because youhaven't done it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
The uh, I should get an award for that.
You know the head coach.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
I just went and got you to do the work for me, so.
I mean ain't that what I'msupposed to do.
Delegate, you're doing a goodjob.
Delegating, yeah, so, um, youknow, so so far I've you know is

(01:46:57):
part of basketball.
You always use the rules toyour advantage any way you can.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Um, some of the coaches weren't always the
happiest about it, but theyfortunately were mad at the refs
and not at me, so it worked outwell.
I wouldn't say rule bending.
You're within the rules, it'sjust the oh, I'm within it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
I'm not gonna break them, I'm within it, but it's we
don't establish.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
You're a rule follower, so yeah, but when it?

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
comes to competitive, I'll follow them, but I'll get
right to the line.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
I know where to go.
This past week we playedprobably the I think would be
the number two team in ourleague.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
We did not play great .

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
We didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
We literally shot them six times.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
But we played really good defense.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
We played good defense.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
I will say that the only points of the team scored
was free throws yeah, well, andit wasn't even free.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
Those are in the game .
No, it was the halftime freethrows which I I'm so back and
forth.
I don't like that.
I get it.
I get it because it giveseverybody a chance to
potentially score, but like yeah, for those who don't know,
that's not teaching anybodyhalftime between the games.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
uh, each team gets to shoot free throws for points
and they count towards youractual in-game score.
They do, and so our team isreally good and really bad at
free throws.
We cannot make free throws.

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
And, honestly, we've got some decent shooters.
They just we don't have a lotof attention span on our team.
Maybe that's what it is I feellike we've seen that, because
there's two in particular I canthink of that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
It's like we do better.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
Everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
Driving to the basket and shooting it, or grabbing a
rebound, putting it back in,than we do shooting a free throw
.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
We are a great transition team.
We're going to steal the ball,put you in a turnover and get it
down the floor.
We're working on that a lot.
We got a lot better the otherday.
Defense has been.
Really good A couple of thekids On our team that we were
worried About defensively havebeen.
They've stepped into so so goodand it's been fun to watch, you

(01:48:42):
know, seeing, seeing the girlsget better and getting to
Continue and grow with it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
Well, this Saturday, if we win, we lock up.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
The regular season we lock up first place?

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
yep, and then we'll try to continue to be undefeated
and go into a tournament andsee what happens there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
Yeah, we've got to win the tournament.
That's the most important thing, but that's what we really
really want to see.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
No, it's been fun and I sent a text out to the group
the other day.
I don't know if you saw it, butI really believe every girl on
our team is just extremelycoachable, respectful they're,
they're great teammates.
Um that close game the othernight if we won, we've got some
pictures and videos of them justlike hugging each other and
just all of them and everybody'simportant and that's been

(01:49:23):
really fun for me to do be partof those girls like that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
Sorry I got just a little bit distracted.
I didn't see this.
Jim Butler got traded to theWarriors.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
Doesn't everybody hate him, wherever he goes, as
far, as a teammate.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
I mean here lately.
I wouldn't be happy to have him.
I mean, he's walked out on histeam countless times at this
point.
How's he still in the league?
Because he's a good ball player.
He's still currently at a peak.
But yeah, I hadn't seen this.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
There was another trade I saw that I thought was
on.
I can't remember what it wasnow.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
So they traded Andrew Wiggins.
So Andrew Wiggins, KyleAnderson and a pick.
So yeah, I hadn't seen that, sothat'll be interesting.
I don't know that he fits there, but that's a very
Curry-centric team.
It is Like everything's set upfor him, which I get.
I mean, it makes sense, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
He's been there forever and it's always been his
team.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
I'm just not sure how that's going to go.
Kind of the same way, Luka andLeBron.
I'm not sure, but that one's alittle worse to me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
I think we talked about this a little bit last
week, but we've got the SuperBowl coming up and then I'll
watch college basketball.
I don't know when I'll get intothe NBA.
It might be playoffs, playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
So to me, depending on playoff race kind of that,
last week, that last two weeksof the regular season, I might
start watching, because you kindof see the flip they go from
let's go score 140 to it's aboutto be 100 to 100, and it's a
little bit like we're about togrind.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
We're at least going to try to stop you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
And that's when it's to me I'm like this is better
basketball.
I'll watch it then, because Ifeel like you see effort on both
ends consistently, Because it'slike, oh well, they have all
these big blocks all the time.
Look at the rest of the game.
Just because there's two bigblocks in a game that's that
long doesn't mean there wasactually a good defense.
No, like I said, I mean you hadthe Thunder versus the Suns 140

(01:51:22):
to 109.
Yeah, like 250 points, that'stoo much, that's not fun.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
But the NBA thinks that's what everybody wants.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
The NBA is not in a great place right now.
Their product is not very good.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
But, we're going to go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
Yeah, we've made it this far and haven't discussed
it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
There was an interview or a press conference
or something with I can'tremember how the mayor of
Philadelphia misspelled theEagles, but I was going to chant
it, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
It was bad.
That's pretty rough.
It was really bad.
It was like I can't evenremember it was bad and they're
like chanting and you could tellpeople were like trying to be
like that ain't right.
But we're still two or three.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
I did see the press ask Mahomes who his favorite ref
was yeah, so I've seen some ofhis stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
My stuff, my favorite stuff, has been uh, james
winston, you see any of those?
Oh no, I have not.
Oh my gosh, he's in there andhe's, he's up there.
He's like hey, saquon, realquick.
Last question he said uh, youknow, currently I don't have a
team.
You know, I'm a free agent.
I'm looking for somebody.
You know anybody that thatneeds a quarterback?
And saquon, without eventhinking yeah, I hear new york
needs one and he's like which?

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
new york.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
he said the and he's like which New York, he said the
Giants, and he's like, oh okay,I got you, I got you.
And then he had a thing withTravis Kelsey.
He's like, hey, man, you gocatch them Ws and he's throwing
these W cookies at him and he'sup there catching them and
somebody snatches one from theside.

(01:52:53):
And he said they're even tryingto intercept me in here and I'm
like that's been the bestcontent I've seen.
He's, he's funny.
I'm not a huge James Winstonfan, you know.
Sorry, bobby, I know you'veFlorida state criminals.
Y'all are, y'all are big onthat, but we're state criminals.
Yeah, I mean that calls himthat.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
So where did uh, uh cam newton when he over there
somewhere at one point he was atuh, florida, and then juco, and
then florida I knew it wassomewhere.
Yeah, yeah, because he's youknow all that whole deal anyways
, right, right uh, but I sawstories you know the press

(01:53:28):
asking him his ref, and then hegot on this big kick.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
Sorry, I'm really anti-Chiefs.
Taylor Swift is on, I've got toturn it Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
yeah, go ahead and turn that.
Not today.
I don't really like TaylorSwift anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
I don't either.
It's just not my style of music.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
But he was asking the press.
He's like why are you pressreally getting into this referee
thing and all this stuff?
And in my mind I'm thinkingbecause it's like look at it, it
seems real.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Well, so the NFL came out and made a statement.
Was it another one of those?
They?

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
should have just shut their mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Yeah, they should have just kept their mouth shut.
They're like of course we'renot giving them special calls.
The refs are doing a fantasticjob.
The men and women that are ourreferees were super proud of
what they do and we couldn't dothis game without them.
And I'm like, again, it'sanother group that just needs to
keep their mouth shut Becausethe NFL or the Chiefs coming out

(01:54:19):
and saying, well, of course wedon't get this.
Nobody believes it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
It doesn't make any sense.
We don't need either one ofthem groups to say anything.

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
No, we need to see it .
If the Bills came out or theTexans, we had questionable
calls these last two games.
If either of them come out andthey're like no, like, we don't
feel, like it's that so far I'mnot seeing them.
Nope, it's crickets on thosecamps Because they know what
happened.
So it just it's veryquestionable.
Still, I'm curious to see whatgroup we get reffed in the Super

(01:54:47):
Bowl.
A lot of people are, you know,are talking about Super Bowl
halftime show.
Kendrick Lamar.
I'll tune that out completely.
I will too, which I do thatkind of with every halftime show
.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
Are you going to watch the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
Like really watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
I don't think I will either.
I'll watch commercials.
Yeah, is that one of thosewhere normally you watch the
game commercial?
All right, let me go grab adrink Now it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
I'll get up and get my food and drink during the
game and get back for thecommercials.
Here's the thing I'll watch.
It Is the commercials still athing To an extent.
I don't feel like it's as muchas it used to be, but most
people watch Super Bowl live.
You have very few people thatwatch it delayed Because it's
Super Bowl Like a championship,I feel like of any kind you're
kind of more in the moment withit.

(01:55:30):
You don't really want to kindof play catch up because there's
too many things out there thatare updating you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
Yeah, it's the only game I don't know if I will for
a championship game, but I liketo start a game late, and not so
late that I'm going to be waybehind, but to the point that I
can kind of end it live.
But I can still skip through alot of the commercials and stuff
.

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
So it's easy during the season because there's 10
other games happening, but whenit's a playoff or obviously a
championship, that's all peoplehave to report on.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
So you're going to see it somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
You kind of have to be a little more alive with that
one.
So here's the thing.
I'll watch it Cheering for theEagles picking the Chiefs.
I'll just be honest with youI'm cheering for the Eagles, but
I'm picking that the Chiefswill win.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
I don't know how much I'll watch.
I will have it on.
I don't know.
I'll be surprised.
I'll report back afterwards andsee how much I actually watch.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
I will one because it's going to be the only thing.
On Two, because it's still NFLplayoffs.
I'm not a huge NFL fan, kind ofthe same with NBA but we get to
the playoffs and it just feelsdifferent, it's different
football.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
They're making me have to wait another week on
NASCAR, because we did get alittle bit of NASCAR this past
week, oh boy, I'm going to fallasleep now.
Country music and NASCAR.
I'm starting to see a patternhere of things you don't like.
I think there's a connection B.
There's a connection.
Boring things, yes, but I'mready for NASCAR to start back.
You know NASCAR has some issues, as every sport.

(01:56:56):
They're trying to do thingsmake it more exciting and it
probably hurts the competition.
But they had a littleexhibition at a little short
track.
It was kind of fun to watch.
They had some heat races and itwas a lot of wrecking each
other.
A short track.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
you can just run into them and spin them out of the
way and people getting mad andrunning over and you know, on
caution laps and so that thething about nascar though nascar
is really hard to grow, a tonof new fans it's it's such to me
it feels so niche that it'sreally hard to just it's never,
no matter what you do, it isnever going to appeal to the

(01:57:32):
masses.
Like it's just not that type ofsport.
Same thing like golf, thoughLike golf will never really
appeal to the masses.
Like I think they have a littlemore potential too, cause, like
with the TGL stuff, if thatreally catches on, it's so kind
of different that you have that.
Um, NASCAR I don't feel likereally has kind of that next
thing that they can do.
That's similar to that, butit's hard.

(01:57:56):
The same way we complain aboutgolf in the fact of FedEx points
and keeping track of who getswhat, NASCAR is the same way.
Well it's a lot better though.
It's hard to keep up with who'sgetting this, who's getting
that, why they get this, whythey get that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
So I got to disagree with you a little bit because
NASCAR, they changed theirpoints a little bit to make it
more reasonable.
And then I think they do agreat job on the broadcasts,
especially as you get into theseason with who's got what
points and literally live pointschanging throughout the race
when you get close to playoffsand who's going to be in.
So I think they do a good jobwith that of trying to get the

(01:58:38):
everyday average.
You know just watching.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
Okay, then what's their point?

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
system.
So it's one point per position.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
And then you get a bonus for winning, and how often
do you get points?
Every race, but you're sayingthey live update that's what I'm
saying.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
Like is there, is there points per x amount of
laps points?

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
so, so what it is.
They went stage racing a fewyears ago and so every race will
be broken in stages.
Usually it's three stages, soyou run so many laps for stage
one and they'll have a checkerinside the race.
It's kind of a.
It's not the end of the race,but you know that section, and
so you get points.
The first 10 get points in thatfirst stage.
The second stage, the first 10get points and at the end

(01:59:20):
everybody gets points based onwhere you finish and what
they're trying to do is keepcars.
Years and years ago you couldride around for 200 laps and
then just let me go race the endand get a bunch of points.
Well, now they make you racefor that try to be top 10
throughout, kind of thing.
Um, so they've done a lotbetter job with that so still
not seamless.

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
I can tell you that still not seamless like they're,
which a lot of the non, the bigfour, anything outside the big
four, all their point systemsare always gonna be a little bit
harder to follow, because it'snot it's always right in front
of your face.

Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just very different.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
So that's that's not me saying well they, they still
could.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
We could always change stuff but that's my
argument with golf.
Their points are kind of allover the place, but at least
tell me about it on everybroadcast.
Explain it to me, help meunderstand who's away, but it's
hard during eight hours.
I'll just be honest with you,that's true, they do talk about
it.
I don't have time to watch allfour days anyways.

Speaker 1 (02:00:15):
Because you've got like most events are somewhere
around 500 FedEx points or 200FedEx points, depending on the
elevated events, whatever, andthere's spreads and different
stuff and to me golf needs toredo their point system
completely.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
By no means will I sit here and say, oh, it's easy
to follow.
It is not.
Yeah, like I'm a huge, huge,huge fan, it is not easy to
follow.
It's very hard to get.
One thing nascar did severalyears ago is they issued
charters to, to so many teamsand basically guarantees you a
spot in the race and you, Ithink you get an extra money
from the purse or whatever bybeing and there's like like I
don't know 36 of them orwhatever, 30-something of them,
whatever they give.
But the reason they've donethat is because they wanted to
guarantee that the big-name guyswere at every race If you, as a

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fan, came they're there.

Speaker 1 (02:01:02):
It's no different than the signature events in
golf.

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
It's the same thing, no, but in NASCAR it's not just
like you've event throughout theentire season, which I wish
they'd done more vast majorityis signature events anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
The way they've got it marked up, your marquee event
, signature event, all the bignames are there.
There's no cut.
You're guaranteed to see everyguy for the four days, but me.

Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
I don't know when those signature events are.
I hate when I turn it on andsomebody's not playing the
biggest issue, which I've said.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
this, and you've agreed with it golf has to
figure out a channel and stickwith it when you're spread out
across four different channelsat different times, four
different days, and you'veagreed with it golf has to
figure out a channel and stickwith it when you're spread out
across four different channelsat different times four
different days you switch duringthe day and then this day it
starts on this channel.
Within the next day it's goingto start on that channel, but
then switch back.

Speaker 2 (02:01:43):
It's just too confusing.
I've been watching before.
You know come on on the golfchannel in the morning and I've
got it on and I'm doingsomething else in the background
.

Speaker 1 (02:01:49):
And the next thing you look and it's gone.
Yeah, and I'm like what am Iwatching or you're watching?
You know, drive, chip and PuttChallenge.
You're like hang on, this is amajor tournament.
Where'd it go?

Speaker 2 (02:01:59):
I get on my phone, I'm looking.
Oh, it switched to NBC at 2o'clock.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
I mean, it goes over there for the fan experience.
You need to change it.
They're starting to work onslow play, they're trying to get
the big guys there more often,so some of that's happening, but
the point system is not great.
The playoff is not a playoff.
The playoff is not a playoff.

Speaker 2 (02:02:30):
It's a mess.
Can we put a shot?
Clock on the tour.

Speaker 1 (02:02:33):
Well, there actually is one.
There always has been one, well, but it's never been enforced.

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
But I want a quick one.

Speaker 1 (02:02:41):
There'd be no way to do it, Because I mean, you've
got to think You've got, whenthe tournament starts,
120-something people.
You know.
Sometimes it's groups of threeand four per whole, Like you
know some, sometimes it's groupsof three and four per hole,
like you're talking about allthe.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
You'd have to hire a ton more people.
Yeah, really, really hard.
There's a lot going on withthat many players and there you
can't hit till you walk up.
Well, and the people in frontof you got to be out of the way,
like the one thing I think thatnascar has over golf is they're
all right there.

Speaker 1 (02:03:07):
Yeah, property may be big, but it's not.
It's not golf course spreadLike.
Even when they get on these bigtracks and they're technically
spread out, they're still in acombined they're still on that
track when?
Golf.
It's like take Pebble Beach,for instance.
At one point they're actuallyplaying on two different courses
, like on one day you play thiscourse, the next day you play
this.
It's like it's so hard toreally get an understanding for

(02:03:29):
that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
To be honest, I don't like that.
Let's play the same course, soyou will just different days, I
know, but every other tournament.
You play the same course fourdays in a row.
Now they change tees and pinlocations.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
Yeah, and that's just kind of part of it.
Yeah, so again, golf has a longways to go to really cater to
fans.
Maybe you just need to startwatching more NASCAR.
I will not at all.
That's what you should do.
Those aren't real cars.
I love cars and I can never getbehind it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:58):
So do you feel that way about your local dirt tracks
?
Because those ain't real carseither.

Speaker 1 (02:04:02):
Yeah, I don't like it either.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
Like the modifieds, they run.

Speaker 1 (02:04:05):
No, I don't like that either.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
Like sprint cars.
Those ain't real like the wingsprints.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
No, yeah, I don't like that kind of stuff.
You don't like none of thatstuff.
No, I'm a car enthusiast.
I'm not a racing enthusiast.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
You're more like street racing.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
No, because then we're going illegal at that
point.

Speaker 2 (02:04:20):
No, I'm not saying illegal, but getting in a real
car and racing it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:23):
Yeah, I like a car that is basically a real car,
maybe even like a racing spec ofthat car.
So it's going to be gutted andyou know all the different
things, but you know more ofjust like.
That is a car you could go buy.
I get that like that, liketechnically, if I wanted to and
I was into racing that much andI'm big in you know, whether
it's a bmw series or whateverseries I can go buy the car that

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they they're racing so you feltlike like indy f1, all that
stuff yeah, it's just, itdoesn't that stuff is just, it
doesn't really appeal to me.

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
Yeah, because it's that stuff yeah it's just, it
doesn't that stuff is just itdoesn't really appeal to me.

Speaker 1 (02:04:54):
Yeah, because it's, but I think nascar is closer
than nascar is probably closerthan any of these other, even
dirt tracks and indy, andthey're closer I feel like
they're just as far, purely onthe fact it's like well, we're
saying this is a ford mustang,we're saying this is a what it
ain't, but they somewhat looklike an actual car you'd see on
the road, even though they'renot built that way at all.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
Like it's not even it's not even body panels.
Like the entire car is sheetmetal, sheet metal.

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
It's all wrapped like it's just it doesn't feel like
real cars, no matter how muchyou make it look like one, it's
just not like.

Speaker 2 (02:05:25):
It's very difficult you know Well, when NASCAR
started, it was real cars.
Oh yeah, you know, back yearsand years ago, and then
everybody could kind of the carsgot.

Speaker 1 (02:05:35):
After you got done running your Moonshine, you went
race.
You did yeah, because that'swhere it started yeah, and then
they started.

Speaker 2 (02:05:41):
Cars got closer and closer together, but you could
kind of do your own thing.
Right and a few years ago nowit became like they all got to
basically get to get a lot ofthe parts from the same people.
I'm sure you still have yourdifferences, that you can set
your car up differently.

Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
Of course.
Yeah, you can do suspensionangles and you know whatever
that you feel like your teamneeds.
But yeah, it's just, it's neverbeen something that that
interests me.
I just I don't know.
I haven't?

Speaker 2 (02:06:06):
I like the whole, the whole puzzle, and I've said
before I want to see it from lapone on because I don't want to
miss anything, I want to knowwhat happens at the end, and I
think it's more of that for me,just all of it together.

Speaker 1 (02:06:17):
It's too long of the exact same thing for me, like
some of these races are 500 lapsof the same circle.

Speaker 2 (02:06:25):
It is.
It's like whew.

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
It is.

Speaker 2 (02:06:28):
There's some excitement.

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
I could tune in for the last 10 and be fine.

Speaker 2 (02:06:31):
There's some races that it gets some boring spots
in it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
But that's where they put the stages in and different
stuff to try to help.
To me.
It's hard for something likethat because, although the top
10 may get points through thosesections, it really doesn't
matter until the end Becausewinning you're going to get more
points.
The higher position you are,the more points you get.

Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
But those points come in big time.
They may, but it's still likemaybe you need to do like um,
like nba and everything you'retalking about, just watching the
playoffs, because then it's youwin or go home on a lot of
those again.

Speaker 1 (02:07:01):
For me, though, like these, a lot of these individual
sports, their playoffs are notdone the greatest because
they're so worried about gottahave big names.
Nobody's gonna watch, it's likewell not necessarily like if
somebody's that good and they'reon a run, that you shouldn't be
seeing a guy like this make arun.

Speaker 2 (02:07:16):
That, to me, is more interesting yeah, no, I mean
they, they've had that severalyears in nascar and then, you
know, it still points a littlebit.
But it's a series.
I don't bore everybody, butit's a series just me, yeah,
just you.

Speaker 1 (02:07:27):
Series of races, if you win.

Speaker 2 (02:07:28):
you move on.
Your Points still come intoplay sometimes, but the final
race, you got four cars.
Whoever is the highest placingof those four cars wins the
championship.
Now take it or leave it.
Sometimes you don't get thebest car winning the
championship or the best driverthroughout the year winning the
championship, but it's kind of aplayoff Win or go home.
Yeah, that's where we go.

Speaker 1 (02:07:54):
You're still there next week, but you're not in the
championship anymore.
How many races during theseason do they have?
It's not like a super, superlong season.

Speaker 2 (02:07:57):
I want to say 36 or something like that.
That's longer than I thought.

Speaker 1 (02:08:01):
Longer than I thought I've got to look it up.
I'm not sure.
Well, because you look at golf.
Golf at this point is almostyear-round.
They have such a tiny break Now.
A lot of the big names take offthe fall season because it
makes no sense to have a fallseason after your playoff
championship, but whatever, 36.
Yeah, so it's pretty long, butthey also have a decent defined

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break, which I like.

Speaker 2 (02:08:25):
That I like the idea Like a sport should have a
decent defined break.

Speaker 1 (02:08:29):
Golf is almost like we gotta overflow you with it
and it's like, well, let's fillit differently.
Like to me, like I like theidea of putting TGL post playoff
, that fill that, you know, kindof no golf period.
It's weird to me to have it inlike the, like the start of the
season, like we had Pebble theother day, which is a one of the

(02:08:51):
most beautiful courses in theworld to me, I think it is
fantastic.

Speaker 2 (02:08:53):
It's truly in the air .
I didn't even watch any of it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:56):
I did.
I got to catch a good portionof it, but obviously they're in
the desert.
This week at Phoenix WasteManagement See how wild that one
gets.
That's usually a pretty wildtournament.
I know they're really strict onthe rules this year trying to
calm it down after last year.
A lot of arrests.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
Last year there's two things, though, that NASCAR or
any racing really and golf havein common, and I don't know.
That I, like, is every weekthey're at a different location
so it can fit your style better.
And same thing I said withNASCAR when they get to the last
race and you got four cars.
What's happened the past fewyears is there's a certain owner

(02:09:36):
group that owns these cars thatare always better at that track
and have been winning thechampionship, and I feel that
way with golf too.
There's some courses that justfit guys better, and I don't
know.
I love that, because everyother sport you know football,
basketball, baseball you're onthe same type field.
Baseball is a little weirdbecause they get different home
run yards, which is silly.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
Well, so football dimensions are the same, but
when you start talking aboutelevation change, you start
talking about some of that.
That does take a big play.

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
To me.

Speaker 1 (02:10:03):
I feel like it's a little bit less in basketball
because you're indoors.

Speaker 2 (02:10:07):
I would say a lot of football play indoors anymore.
The big games they go to thebig.

Speaker 1 (02:10:11):
Some of the big ones, but most of them are still
outdoor, but because they, a lotof people have gone away from
the like you said the dimensionsand all.

Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
It's the same.
Where in golf it could be.
Of course it's longer, shorter,you know.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I don't know Just lots ofdifferences there, so I kind of
like that about it.
That's one of the things that Ido find intriguing about golf.
More is it's like you can'tjust say you know, heck, we'll
crack on kickers at this point.
You know football kicker, nomatter where you go, you're

(02:10:43):
doing the exact same thingYou're just kicking the ball.
You're kicking the ball.
Obviously your elevation, yourwind, you know some of that
changes.
But golf you have to hit a shotdifferent because they use a
different grass than the otherplace.
Yeah, you have to truly have anunbelievable skill in every
aspect to do it.
So that's, I think, where Ireally kind of get into it,
because it's like it's not thatI was going out there and

(02:11:04):
swinging like I really have topay attention to a lot of little
variances and then especiallyyou know day by day, then move
in pins and and you know wholelocations and like, just because
you did really well yesterdaydoesn't mean you're gonna play
all day well, like I said, thewind plays a factor in the
weather.

Speaker 2 (02:11:21):
It's raining or whatever.
Huge, but do you get?

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
really windy and all of a sudden this the greens are
faster and all you know all thecrazy I know we've talked about
the points in the championshipand they give, you know, a head
start.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
Basically, I hate that.
I hate their playoffs.
How much do you think thecourse comes into play?
I know we've talked about thepoints in the championship and
they give a head start basicallyI hate it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
I hate their playoffs .

Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
How much do you think the course comes into play with
the guys that are the top whatthree or four that really have a
chance to go in it?
But this course just suits thisguy way better.
Does that happen to where?
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (02:11:46):
the best golfer doesn't win when they host the
tournament at Eastlake inGeorgia.
Where they host the tournamentat Eastlake in Georgia.
For me the course itselfdoesn't really make a ton.
It's more of like theconditions of the rough being
really high and some of thosethat really makes it, and more
kind of like technically maybesome narrower landing zones, but

(02:12:09):
I don't feel like the course initself.
On you have to have the hugedistance or you have to have
this Cause we've seen guys winthat aren't the long hitter.
We've seen guys win that arethe long hitter, but maybe
you're not quite as good withyou know a wedge, technically,
you know whatever.
But so I mean the course thatthey currently play it on, I
don't really feel like that,really feel like that.

(02:12:32):
Now there's some rumor that atsome point we may make some
changes and alternate.
Maybe then we could say it, butthe course they play at, it kind
of just feels like it's kind offits everybody it's not just
run-of-the-mill generic, butkind of in a way feels for those
guys, yeah, yeah it's not acourse that I'm like man.
We're at a really beautiful,like finishing season, like
hurrah type place it's kind ofjust I feel like we should like
to me the fact that we play.
The only real tournament we'replaying at pebble is, uh, the

(02:12:57):
pill beach pro am.
That blows my mind.
Pebble is an amazing course.

Speaker 2 (02:13:02):
That is super, super difficult and we only play it
like once let's go, let's gofinish up at the masters or
something, something big name um.

Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
So for me, like I like the idea of it being
somewhere different, like I likethe idea that you know, like
the Super Bowl or the Olympics,like they've planned this out
for years in advance, like let'sknow that, well, in three years
, this is where we're headed.
Oh yeah, like every year, besomewhere yeah like just
somewhere, just kind of changeit up.
Like that to me is kind of moreinteresting.

(02:13:36):
No, I think that would be waymore um, I guess, fair for
everybody, because if thiscourse doesn't suit you good
this year, what you got, nextyear we're going to be in a
different course, which, again,these guys are.
They're really really good.
Like golf is one of those thatpeople don't realize how good
they really are.
Um, it's not just something youcan go out and just be really
good at to start.
Some people claim they are, butthat's a whole separate thing,
yeah, sure, but here's one thing.
We've talked about a bunch ofsports and some different things

(02:13:57):
, something I want to end on.
I told you I was going to askyou this question, but I didn't
really give you the question.
I don't know how long we've beentalking tonight.
We've been on it, we've beengoing.
But I have this question andwe've been kind of through every
sport tonight.
Really didn't plan on gettingto every sport, we kind of
touched on just about everything, didn't hit any tennis, but we
may come back to that at somepoint.

(02:14:17):
Tennis is kind of boring to meTo a lot of people it is.
It's one of those, like most ofthe people, that are really
into it probably play it Likehow you feel about NASCAR.
That's probably how I feel abouttennis.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
I think I probably hate NASCAR more.
Yeah, I'm just not as rude asyou, so Right.

Speaker 1 (02:14:37):
Right, so on the spot .
No research just off the top ofyour head.

Speaker 2 (02:14:43):
All right time to go to bed, guys.
See you later.

Speaker 1 (02:14:47):
Top five sports movies in your opinion.
Oh gosh, I don't know, but justsome that pop in your head that
you're like I love that movie.
I'd go watch it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:00):
I don't know if I can do that off the top of my head,
really.
What time is it?
Right now?
I know it's late, I mean, comeon.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
But to me, I can think of sports movies.
Sports movies are natural.
I've watched them.

Speaker 2 (02:15:11):
There.
Think of sports like sportsmovies just are natural.
I'm good, I've watched them.

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
There's gonna be some that I've forgotten about, of
course, this, of course.
Um, that's kind of the point,like I just want, like, what are
the five?
One of the top?

Speaker 2 (02:15:18):
ones.
That's gonna come to my mind.
That is not a good productionmovie, but I love the aspect of
it and I love football.
Football is always right, myfavorite, uh facing the giants.
Okay, that's a good christian,well.

Speaker 1 (02:15:30):
So what got me on this topic.
Earlier song came on and you'relike all I can think of is
remember the titans when I hearthe song.

Speaker 2 (02:15:37):
Yeah, and then maybe I was like there we go and
that's I'm gonna lean towardsfootball movies, because of that
um, yeah, I mean remember,titan's definitely one of them
um I mean heck, I'll rattle youoff 10 like a heartbeat what was
it?
Sports movies are somethingI've always loved.
Uh, whole nine yards.
Is that what they're called?

(02:15:58):
What's it called?

Speaker 1 (02:16:00):
there was a whole nine yards, but that wasn't a
sports movie no, the footballmovie, something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:07):
Longest yard, longest yard.
Maybe that's one of them I'mthinking of.
Yeah, that was the prison movie, right, yeah, but I thought
there was another one that wassomething like that but I mean,
there's a bruce willis moviethat he like kills a bunch of
people yeah, that's not what I'mthinking nine whole 10 and, I
think, a whole 11 no, no, no,longest yard.
I thought there was somethingelse too, but I don't know.
The replacements was good again, I'm thinking football movies,

(02:16:32):
yeah, and I knew you wouldnaturally go to football movies.

Speaker 1 (02:16:34):
I just knew you would .
So for me, remember the Titanswill always be on a list for me.
I think it's a fantastic movie.
I love that movie.
I did hear an interesting thinghere recently.
Somebody said you know theystart that movie and they say
based on a true story and youwatch that whole movie.
They're the only team of blackplayers.
And I saw a thing the other daythat said every team in their

(02:16:57):
conference had black players andI was like don't ruin that for
me, right, don't do that.
And so I was just like I'm goingto ignore that, like I still
just love the movie.

Speaker 2 (02:17:14):
And I think it's a fun aspect of everything.
Um, I've always loved coachcarter.
A basketball movie?
Um, what's the basketball movie?
Um, with the, the black players, and they go play kentucky and
coach rup is who's supposed tobe.
Oh gosh yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (02:17:22):
Uh, that's a good movie, utep, but it was texas el
paso then, yes, it's utep now.
Yeah, I can't think of the nameof the movie, but oh yeah, I do
like that.
That was a good movie I'vealways loved.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
We are marshall I thought about a second ago.

Speaker 1 (02:17:33):
That was a good one for me, but then where I also go
really quickly because it waslike childhood.

Speaker 2 (02:17:38):
I love sandlot I don't know if I've sat down and
watched the whole thing.
You have homework, because I'mtrying to throw something to you
right now um the sandlot.
I love that movie I just thinkit's fun.
Bad Bad News Bears was good.

Speaker 1 (02:17:50):
I hated that movie Back in the day, like the
original or the remake, I don'tknow which was which Most people
the original's from, like the60s or 70s.
Oh no, no, no, I know youdidn't watch that, then the
remake, then.
You're talking about.
That one was even worse.
Yeah, that's right, sandlot.
So, like back then, like thegoofy ones, I loved Sandlot,

(02:18:11):
rookie of the Year Angels in theOutfield.

Speaker 2 (02:18:15):
There were some fun baseball movies.
We talked about this the otherday, the baseball movie where he
goes and finds the pitcher.
What's the name of the movie?

Speaker 1 (02:18:21):
Oh, he's the scout.

Speaker 2 (02:18:22):
Yeah, is that what it's called, clint?
Eastwood Something like thatTop of the Curve.
Yes, yeah, that yes.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
Yeah, that was a good movie.
Yep, I did like that movie.
Justin Timberlake was in thatmovie of all people, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
That's right he was.

Speaker 1 (02:18:34):
That was a good movie .
I did really like that.
So to me, baseball movies aresome of the best.

Speaker 2 (02:18:38):
Don't, don't, yeah, don't even go there.
I know what you're about to say.
I forgot about this.
If I watch it, I've got towatch it with Amanda.

Speaker 1 (02:18:46):
We never have time to sit there and watch it, I guess
you'll just have to watch itseparately.

Speaker 2 (02:18:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:18:52):
At some point we will , we really will.

Speaker 2 (02:18:56):
Honestly, probably now it's not going to be as good
because it's a little bit oldernow, of course, so it's going
to feel dated a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:19:03):
Yeah, that's any.
I mean we were talking At somethe 80s movie about Bigfoot and
it's like I loved that movie asa kid, but there's no way I
could go back and watch it now.
It would just be so rough.
There's a lot of movies thatway, but yeah, so for anybody
listening, if you have an easykind of top five sports movies

(02:19:25):
to you doesn't have to be inorder Happy.
Gilmore.
It's pretty good.
So I stayed away from the golfmovies because, like 10 cup
fantastic never seen it.
Uh, caddy shack never seen it,I'm gonna throw something at you
.
Um, what did you just say?

Speaker 2 (02:19:41):
caddy shack.
Oh my gosh, I know every time Itell that to anybody I'm
playing golf with, they're likeyou gotta go watch this so I
tried watching it.

Speaker 1 (02:19:46):
I actually set my dvr it's dated too at this point it
.

Speaker 2 (02:19:49):
It was, it's very, and it's that it's a humor that
I'm not a big fan of, bill.

Speaker 1 (02:19:56):
Murray, it's, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:19:57):
it's like a stupid, funny and I'm just, I don't know
.

Speaker 1 (02:20:02):
At least you've seen happy Gilmore, at least happy.

Speaker 2 (02:20:04):
Gilmore is great.

Speaker 1 (02:20:06):
Yeah.
So I just kind of stayed awayfrom the golf movies because
they're just not really known aswell.
But yeah, I do like a lot ofthose which I love sports movies
.
I think, growing up playing asmuch sports as we have to me,
it's natural just kind of wantto watch and go to those movies.
But no, I actually really likemore of the serious ones better

(02:20:27):
though.

Speaker 2 (02:20:28):
Remember the Titans Coach Carter.
He's a basketball coach up inVirginia.
Did you like the uh-huh yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:20:32):
Yep heard of that one .

Speaker 2 (02:20:34):
You know the kid that goes and lives with the other
family and plays football.
You know the rich white familyhe goes with oh, Blindside,
Blindside, Not really yeah, Imean, it was solid.

Speaker 1 (02:20:47):
It was okay for what it was?
A lot of controversy about thatmovie at this point with all
the stuff that's come out.

Speaker 2 (02:20:52):
Oh, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (02:20:54):
So it'd be really hard to go back and watch it now
.
He claims it's not really theway it was Kind of made him look
bad.
They both look bad.

Speaker 2 (02:21:01):
at this point there's a movie that was filmed up in
Corbin, kentucky, close to wherewe lived 23 Blast, I think it
was.
It was about a kid went tocorbin high school there and
became blind, I guess, and stillplayed football.
So I haven't watched the movieyet, but it's supposed to be
really good.

Speaker 1 (02:21:18):
I think it's more of a christian based movie too, a
little bit maybe I don't eventhink I've heard of that one
yeah, it's supposed to be good Idid recently watch, speaking of
sports movies, the uh zach levymovie where he's playing Kurt
Warner.
It's kind of the Kurt Warnerstory.
I can't remember what it'scalled, I had never seen it and
I kept seeing clips of it.

(02:21:38):
I was like, oh, I need to watchit because I was a big Rams fan
during that period.
Just kind of the team you hadKurt Warner and Torrey Holt and
Isaac Bruce and Marshall Falk.
It was just a fun team to watch.
I loved cheering for them.
I, isaac Bruce and MarshallFalk, like there was.
It was just a fun team to watch, so I loved kind of cheering
for them.
So yeah, I went back andwatched that and I've actually
got to meet him.
One time he came and spoke overin Asheville.

Speaker 2 (02:21:58):
Kurt Warner, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:22:00):
Yeah, he was.
He was really cool, a lotbigger than I thought he was.
You didn't bring that.
I even got to really standthere and talk to him.
It was kind of just a you knowhey like gone it was kind of, as
he's going, gotcha Like to me,like I need to be able to like,
shake your hand, actuallyconverse, that's meeting to me

(02:22:22):
Okay.
So yeah, but yeah, if you guyshave any Brian, I want to know
your sports movies too, becausehe likes sports.
He would have some.

Speaker 2 (02:22:33):
He'd probably have some that we'd forget about.

Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
Yeah, maybe he's a Talladega Knights kind of guy.

Speaker 2 (02:22:39):
I'm not a big fan of Talladega Knights.
It's just too.
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (02:22:43):
That, and Cars is about the only kind of have you
ever seen?

Speaker 2 (02:22:47):
Days of Thunder.

Speaker 1 (02:22:48):
Tom Cruise?
Yeah, I have seen it.

Speaker 2 (02:22:53):
It wasn't great to me either.
That's based on a true story ofdylan hart and um somebody I
can't remember I don't think itwas that really got into it, and
yeah, it's one of those like my, my neighbor growing up.

Speaker 1 (02:23:03):
they're our cousin and they're huge nascar fans.
Like really weren't nascar fansafter arnhart, like after that
they like kind of got out of it,but they were huge NASCAR fans
and I remember watching it attheir house.

Speaker 2 (02:23:15):
Yeah, Um, it's not a bad movie for the time.

Speaker 1 (02:23:18):
No, no, no, no, no.
That one in.

Speaker 2 (02:23:19):
Top Gun.

Speaker 1 (02:23:22):
That's not a sports movie.

Speaker 2 (02:23:23):
No, it was not, but I mean it's Tom, they were both
good.
I wasn't expecting to hear thatthose two movies remind me so
much of each other, because TomCruise and they're both kind of
action, but with a love interestand it kind of feels like the
same movie, every Tom Cruisemovie ever.

Speaker 1 (02:23:40):
That's true.
Yeah, probably I mean it justkind of feels like it does.
I mean, look at MissionImpossible, yeah, like it's the
same.

Speaker 2 (02:23:53):
It's action with a love interest with.
Yeah, sorry, tom, your moviesare all the same.
You know, before we startedthis, I mentioned the movie
moving that you've never seen,never even heard of it.
Um, with, uh, who do we say itwas richard bryer?
Yep, yeah, so now I mean it'sfunny too, because now I go back
and watch these and they have alot more language than I
remember but I feel like ratingswere so different, but I feel
like when I watched them, theybleeped out a lot of stuff
because it'd be on just if youwatch on tv though, yeah, so I

(02:24:16):
didn't know that he was in thatway watch the actual vhs.

Speaker 1 (02:24:20):
You know, be kind, rewind blockbuster oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (02:24:23):
I know I hadn't seen that in a long time I don't,
they were so expensive.

Speaker 1 (02:24:27):
I miss blockbuster.
Blockbuster.
If you're listening, you knowwhat you're not because you're
dead.
David wants a logo, orsomething.

Speaker 2 (02:24:34):
Could we bring back something like that?

Speaker 1 (02:24:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:24:38):
It would lose money like crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:24:41):
Why do you think they went?
Bankrupt Somebody's got a lotof money If Redbox went bankrupt
.

Speaker 2 (02:24:47):
I still saw Redbox the other day.

Speaker 1 (02:24:49):
It was working in the grocery store there's very,
very few, and I think they'reall on their way out.
It might be, I don't know, butyeah.
I mean if that can't make it.
There's no way an actual storecan make it.
I want a Blockbuster back.

Speaker 2 (02:24:59):
There was nothing like going to Blockbuster
picking out a movie, video gameand they'd have like 15 copies
of the new movies and they'reall gone.
You're looking, you're looking,you're like, come on, because
they'd have the box in front ofthe actual, and then you
actually took the back thingyeah most any of the younger
crowds definitely not going toknow that well, but they've
always had streaming it, allright.

Speaker 1 (02:25:22):
So tomorrow, have you ever talked to your daughter
about video stores?
Try to explain that to a kid,because they're gonna be like
why wouldn't you just turn thetv on and play it?
Like, why would you do that?
Because even then, you can rentanything you want directly from
your TV.

Speaker 2 (02:25:37):
I mean it's ridiculous.
I think at one point we hadlike a monthly thing where you
could get like two movies.
Yep, I mean you get as many asyou want for the month, but you
don't keep and two more, that'swhat.

Speaker 1 (02:25:48):
Redbox used to be.
That's right.
Redbox was a mail-in servicebefore that.
Yeah Well this was.

Speaker 2 (02:25:52):
You actually had to go to the video store and get
them, but you could, as long asyou had two at a time.
Maybe Blockbuster was trying tostay in business when Redbox
came out.

Speaker 1 (02:26:01):
Well, I remember Blockbuster at one point was
like movie and they basicallywere like giving you a voucher
for almost like a free pizza Imean it was literally like we're
trying anything we can to makesome money.

Speaker 2 (02:26:13):
I remember doing it with video games too, because
video games were expensive itwas cheaper to rent the video
game.

Speaker 1 (02:26:17):
See if I liked it.
Yeah, yeah, or there's a lot oflike single player games.
I'd get it, beat it and be likeI don't have to buy it now, I
just send it back how long didyou keep it to beat it, or did
you just play it like non-stop?
It would just depend on what itwas which I didn't do a lot.
Most of my games I played weresports games as a kid, but if
there was something that I waslike, I'll try it.
It probably wasn't a very longgame.

Speaker 2 (02:26:35):
It was horrible, though, when you got a really
good game and you couldn'tafford to buy it and it was time
to take it back.

Speaker 1 (02:26:39):
I do remember I was really little and we had a first
PlayStation.
We had a video store here intown called star video and there
was a space jam game okay Iused to use bugs bunny I'm gonna
say michael jordan, not lebronbugs bunny and I can remember he

(02:27:00):
would do this little animationand he'd be like a mail carrier
and he was like jump onto therim, jump onto the backboard and
put his whole body through anddunk it and it was just like
this, like cartoon arcadeybasketball game.
I loved it.
I thought it was great, butthat's when you just you would
go in blockbuster and be like,oh, I really like this like
cartoon arcade-y basketball gameand I loved it.

Speaker 2 (02:27:12):
I thought it was great.
But that's when you just youwould go in Blockbuster and be
like, oh, I really like this.
I just want to renew it foranother week or whatever it was,
you know.

Speaker 1 (02:27:17):
Yeah, yeah, you didn't even put it back.
But then the amount of latefees that people would oh Like
you get listen, I've had thismovie too long.
I ain't going back or you knowyou.

Speaker 2 (02:27:31):
You returned one late and you forgot you did, because
you remember you could pull inoutside.

Speaker 1 (02:27:34):
They'd have a little drop box outside box, and then
the next time you go to rent one, they're like oh yeah, you
can't because you have late fees.

Speaker 2 (02:27:40):
You owe five dollars for your late fees.
Like dang it man, it's 10minutes late.

Speaker 1 (02:27:43):
You charge me 57.
What's going on here?
Yeah, I still visit.
I really forgot about the videoday stores because that was
every Friday night.

Speaker 2 (02:27:51):
Yeah, like when I was a really little Blockbuster was
a big one Unless we were goingto movies, but there was a lot
of local ones too that you couldgo to.

Speaker 1 (02:27:55):
Oh yeah, I mean, like in Shelby we had a family video
and then there's Blockbusterand there's all this stuff.
We had a Blockbuster here wherethe dialysis place is.
That was Blockbuster.
Okay.
I remember going in there andit was like every time you go in
there a movie to rent was like$6.
And you're like I get this fora night and it's that expensive.
It was nuts Blockbuster, tryingto survive.

(02:28:18):
I liked it, I miss it.
I would never go back tosomething like that.
Though Streaming's so easy,we're so lazy as a society.

Speaker 2 (02:28:25):
It's too easy, it is much easier.
Don't even have to leave mycouch watch whatever I want I
think it's a nostalgic thing,just kind of like you know, miss
it.

Speaker 1 (02:28:33):
Not all old things were good, that's.
That's the one thing that wasthe technology, though that's
what we're gonna learn fromtoday's podcast folks.
Not all old things are good.

Speaker 2 (02:28:45):
Some old things are okay I agree, I still miss
blockbuster.
Well.

Speaker 1 (02:28:49):
Well, Dave is going to go to bed dreaming about
Blockbuster.

Speaker 2 (02:28:53):
I'm going to wake up thinking I have late fees.

Speaker 1 (02:28:56):
Nightmares all of a sudden.
But thanks, guys, for listening.
We hope to hear some feedbackfrom you.
Go like us on all the socialsand we'd love to converse with
you.
And again, if you have anytopics, send them our way, we'd
love to get into it.

Speaker 2 (02:29:10):
Find us on social media.

Speaker 1 (02:29:13):
So appreciate you guys hanging out with us and
we'll see you next week.
See you next week.

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