Whales, Playoffs, and Holiday Movie Magic

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Speaker 2 (00:15):
welcome back to not amused uh, first off, merry
christmas merry christmas thisis our christmas episode thank
you for coming back again ifyou're're coming back.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
If this is your first time, thanks for joining us.
It's true, come back for thenext one, all we do ask is maybe
go back and listen to lastweek's.
This one makes a little bitmore sense.
But again, merry Christmas.
Thank you, guys, for joining us.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Okay, now this might make sense.
I'm not sure, even even if youlisten to the last one, because
we're sitting here talking aboutsure orcas and dolphins and
walruses and everything beforewe start this podcast, so we're
already on it tonight uh, yeah,I mean we figured out that orcas
are the largest species in thein the dolphin family yeah, so
let's quit calling them whales.
I'm going to start thatcampaign right now.

(00:59):
No more whale talk.
They're orcas, they're dolphinsdolphins with.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I mean, is that a hill you really want to die on?
I'm not going to die on it.
That's not enough of adifference.
They're not a whale.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
They're not a whale, but I still do want to know
about walruses and sea lions andseals, because they're all the
same thing too, just bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Any marine biologist friends out there, just give us
a call, because David doesn'tknow something and it's driving
him insane yeah, so I meanthere's a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
We gotta figure this out.
We've had this conversation inthe past.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
The ocean I know there's a lot in there yes, but
we also spend how many millions,billions or whatever it is
trying to go to space.
We haven't figured our ownplanet, I know like we've got so
many things in the ocean thatare curious that I can't speak.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Curious but that reminds me I saw this um the
other day.
They say that the middle of theearth is hotter and molten lava
, and yeah, yada, yada.
And so some biologist orwhatever saying okay, then why
does it get colder when you getto the bottom of the ocean?
If we're getting closer to theheat, well, why does it get
colder?

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I don't think it's remotely close enough for that
heat to come out because, likethe, the higher up, you're
getting sun and you know it'sreflecting the water and you're
keeping some heat, but I, Idon't know the actual depth, but
it's I don't know like miles,yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I just saw that video and I was like you're gonna
feel the heat through that thatwas probably one of your
conspiracy theory videos orsomething.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Well, I mean there's, there's some people that say
that doesn't exist, it's justempty void.
The what doesn't exist.
The core of the earth.
It's not actual molten, it'sjust nothing.
It's basically just an emptyvoid that you just kind of fall
into.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
But we've never been remotely close to that.
What's the old timey saying?
Like when you dig, you can digto.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
China or something, yeah, yeah, but where does China
dig to?
So like if you have that sayinghere, it's like you keep
digging, you're going to dig toChina, do they say keep digging,
you're going to dig to Texas?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Maybe, but here's the thing I've never compared it on
a globe.
Does it actually even line up?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I highly doubt it.
Probably not.
It's just something that theold people used to say because
it was like hey, stop digging myyard.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
It wasn't even about.
Actually I was probably goshelementary school or something
and I was putting the water hosein the ground and the water was
kind of digging and I just keptgoing and going and going.
I couldn't get it back out, butyou thought you were doing
something impressive.
I mean, that water hose wasdeep in the ground.
I know that.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Reality is just going sideways.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
You didn't really go anywhere.
Probably it wouldn't go backout.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I know that I've got 13 feet of hose in there and
I've made it really far.
I'm watering the rice fieldsout in China or wherever?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Where do you think?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
I lived when I was watering rice fields.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
It's going to China.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
It's deep enough.
Oh Golly, stick with me 13 feetof hoses in China already.
Man yes, but got you.
You didn't have depthperception.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Maybe, maybe that's true.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Anyways, exactly I know We've been all over the
place before we even started.
We've been on 15 differenttopics.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's our warm-up.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
But a topic I do kind of want to jump into the first
round of the playoffs.
Yeah, it was horrible it wasthere was not a good game.
Yeah, it was horrible the game.
There was not a good game.
Now I am so happy to report onmyself that the team that I
picked that could have won itabsolutely got destroyed.

(04:14):
They're out.
But as an ohio state fan, Icould not be more happy to see
how well they played.
As long as they do it again,you know, next week.
Um, they gotta string together.
I mean, every lower seed justgot absolutely destroyed.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, and it wasn't as close as even the score made
it look like.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
No, like the Notre Dame-Indiana game got closer at
the end.
I mean heck, even the OhioState-Tennessee game got a
touchdown closer and it wasn'tit was well over.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
So the seedings was correct for what they had in
there based on that, because allthe better seeds won pretty
handedly.
But it goes to say, should Bamaor somebody else, south
Carolina somebody, have been inthere?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
You know the seedings is the thing, but at the same
time, like if you would have put, if Indiana somehow would have
played Clemson, would that havebeen a closer game?
If Indiana played Penn State,would that have been a closer
game?
If Indiana played Penn State,would that have been a closer
game?
It's hard to say Sometimes.
You just run into a team.
Tennessee, I think, is betterthan the other teams that lost.
Yeah, probably, but I don'tknow that anybody could have
beat Ohio State that night.
That's what I said, not eventalking as a fan, but just as

(05:17):
that first quarter they couldnot do.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, I mentioned last week that the reason I kind
of picked them is because Ifelt Ryan Day and Chip Kelly,
they had their backs against thewall, the whole group.
But I think, seeing that it waseven the players, said we're
not doing this, no more, we'vehad enough.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, they just hadn't proved it this year, like
the offensive sets they wererunning, like we haven't seen
that all year, I know.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
They were just freely moving and doing everything the
way that they should do, but Ilove the defense.
You know when we play collegefootball on PlayStation.
I want to bring the heat.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I love it.
Yeah, we were playing the othernight and it's engage eight.
Every time it's like, hey,you're in coverage, Good luck.
Well, because here's the thingthere's three of you back there.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
You better get it out quick and you ain't going to
get many yards because we're gotyou.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, as soon as the heat, now, everyone now, and
then they'll get behind me and,you know, burn me.
No, like I like pressure, I'mall for pressure, like I'm like
a big reason I don't like athree four is so many people run
a three four and they sit back.
Yeah, I can't stand that.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like I need five, I need five people I feel like
quarterbacks today can pick youapart if you sit too long or
they're going to take off rightaway with it.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Well and that's part of it is, if you send so little,
even if they don't get anybodyopen, there's just so many more
gaps for them to maneuverthrough.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
So that's very different.
Yeah, no, I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
But yeah, the games this week I find myself just not
really watching them fully.
I watched the Ohio State gamebeing a fan, but the other games
it was kind of just in passingbecause it wasn't.
Yeah, it was not good games, itjust was really no fun to watch
.
I've never believed in indianadidn't really see anything out
of smu that I thought was gonnaimpress me this, this I have

(06:52):
wrote down because you said thisokay, indiana, notre dame, uh,
greg mcelroy, right from, uh,he's played alabama.
He was an announcer for thatgame, make up your mind.
So, one second, he's like youknow, indiana, they absolutely
destroyed all the teams thatthey played.

(07:12):
They should be here.
And then he's saying well then,the teams they play were not
any good and they won all theseconference games, but the
conference wasn't good.
And I'm like and this waswithin two minutes of each other
, which is it Like, make up yourmind?
Like, make up your mind, likeI'm on the side that Indiana
didn't play anybody.
The only good team they playedall year was Ohio State and,
honestly, ohio State wasn'tplaying.
Well then, they didn't playPenn State, they didn't have
Oregon, they didn't have any ofthose teams that really like,

(07:35):
their best win all year was a6-6 Michigan team.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Did you see that's not impressive comment.
Um, I didn't teach him how torun his mouth like that or
something.
Yeah, signetti, yeah well,because he's run his mouth well
his.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
His famous saying, too, is everyone's like you know
I don't know who you are.
He's like google me like I win.
Wherever I'm at, google mewhich isn't wrong.
I mean he's winning ball games.
It's just, you can win ballgames and then you go play real
teams and you can't win thosegames like they.
They were outmatched against aNotre Dame team, that's.
I mean, they're good.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I don't know how really good they are, they're
okay.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Again this week we have some odd matchups again.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
One of the big teams are still going to win it.
12 is going to make it moreinteresting, but in the end
we're going to say see, 12 makesit interesting.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
But then I saw a friend of mine on Facebook.
He's a huge Clemson fan.
I mean, I know very few peoplethat are bigger Clemson fans.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So last minute I kind of talked to myself into
thinking they might, could beTexas.
And they even scored quickly.
They did, and that was it.
That was it.
I was like okay, but even hesaid win or lose today he said
win or lose.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
today he said we don't need 12 teams.
He was like eight would havebeen fine.
And then after watching that,you're like maybe eight wasn't
so bad.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
You're not going to be able to know that, I think,
until we change up how we seedthem and how we put them in.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I think 12 works.
I really like 12.
I think it makes forinteresting that you've earned
your buy.
You've earned the extra week ofrest.
You've earned your bye.
You've earned the extra week ofrest.
You've earned all that.
I don't care if you win aconference championship or not.
No, I don't either Like.
I want the 12 best, Because allconferences are not equal.
No, and even your path to theconference is not equal to
somebody else.
It's also not Well like the ACC.
Clemson made it to the ACCchampionship, not because they

(09:19):
were necessarily that muchbetter.
They didn't go beat everybody.
Well, no, like you said theteams that they played.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
It was just tiebreaker stuff, the games they
lost.
I think they were a three-lossteam, just weren't in their
conference.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, it was two in conference, one out of
conference.
Yeah, miami only has twoconference losses.
They didn't make the ACCchampionship because of that
Mm-hmm, and I personally thinkMiami would have probably put up
a better game than Clemson did,just because Miami can score a
lot of points.
They can't stop anybody, butthey can score points.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I talked myself into it a little bit because, for
whatever reason, I still can'tjust believe Texas is the best
team or one of the best teams.
Like they're good, but I can'tlike somebody's going to get
them.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
I think Texas is good .
I think they are very good.
I just don't think theiroffense has been consistent
enough.
Or when they really play atough defense ie Georgia, both
games that they've lost thisyear the same team Georgia
they've sent some pressure.
They really know how to getinto Quinn Ewer's head.

(10:18):
I mean, he's looked awful bothgames.
Both games.
He did not look like a big-timeD1 quarterback and now he's the
rumor of a possible-time D1quarterback.
And now you know he's the rumorof a possible $4 million
contract, no matter where hegoes next year.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Because I think Arch Manning.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
That's his team next year regardless.
I think Ewers is done, but he'snow talking about not going pro
and, you know, rumor ispossibly Oregon, possibly Ohio
State, possibly.
You know all these differentteams and I'm like you're going
to spend $4 million on a guythat can't beat his own
conference.
Why are we now?
Now, I did love to see thatOhio State just absolutely

(10:51):
destroyed Tennessee when it'sbeen all year.
Look at the SEC, we're just thebest and they got them.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yep, you didn't look good, and that's so.
I want to say this real quick.
If you're listening we're goingto get to the important bracket
the christmas movie bracketyeah, we've got a lot of stuff
going on with that yes so ifyou're listening just for that,
we'll get to that here in just aminute.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
But it'll be in the chapter notes in the bottom, if
you really want to skip to it.
You can.
I would appreciate if youdidn't, but it is there just in
case.
That's what you want to hearbut what?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I hate I hate to see that oregon and ohio state play
each other again and I'm sureOhio State wants to get him back
, but I want to see Oregonagainst an SEC school or
somebody.
I don't see him get challenged.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I'm okay with Oregon Ohio State in the semis.
I just hate to see it in thesecond round, like if it's the
final four and we have to see itokay yeah but I would like to
see it different?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
yeah, because we've already seen that that game and
I.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I mean, I think it's gonna be a good game.
There's definitely potentialfor it to be a great game, but I
do want to see both those teamsplay other conferences.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You know, if Ohio State wins it, I'm going to say,
all right, two games in a row,they got it going a little bit.
Let's see what they can do.
If Oregon wins it, I'm almostgoing to sit back and go yeah,
you already beat them once.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I want for me really that to me, we'll go ahead and
lead in picks for this week.
Who do you have so like?
For me, I think Texas runsthrough Arizona State like
they're not even there.
I don't think Arizona State canplay with them.
I would agree.
I know you had said well,arizona State looked decent in
the Big 12 championship gamethat running back looks good,

(12:20):
but it's who they play.
But against who he's sayingwell, I'm the best, prove it.
Here's your week, prove it.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Even if he is that good, your lines ain't going to
match up.
No, not even saying.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
SEC football.
We're saying Texas, texaslinemen go pro.
Yeah, I'm not saying just SEC.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I mean, it's that way at Ohio State, it's that way at
some other schools, penn StateYou're not going to run on Penn.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
State Miami.
Honestly you're not reallygoing to run well on Notre Dame.
It's the style that they play.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I'm going to go with you on that one.
I think Texas wins.
Arizona State may play a littlebetter than most expect.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I expect it to be 2-3 touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I really don't think it's going to be much of a game
and that's just going to proveagain we don't need conference
champions, it's just good, yeah,and that's kind of what I
really.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
So I think Texas is going to win, but I really want
to see that happen, to basicallysay, okay, your conference
championship meant nothingbecause you didn't play anybody
good all year.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Like you had Iowa.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
State, BYU, Colorado.
Like those guys would be 6-6 inany other league.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well then, just thinking of the bracket, I think
Buckeyes beat Oregon.
They've got it rolling.
They've played them before andif you remember that game, they
should have won that game.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
If he takes a knee a second sooner, Howard making
that slide at the end a secondtoo late.
Yeah, they still had thetimeout.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
They still could have got the kickoff, Like yes,
there was a very good chancethey were going to hit a field
goal, I think.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, but then the really questionable offensive
pass interference.
Yeah, that was a terrible call,I think.
To me it's a no call with thatin that juncture, like just
makes sense you know how state'sgot it going.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
They figured some stuff out this week.
They've got a chip on theirshoulder from losing that game
the way they lost it last time.
I I think they're they take it.
It might be a good game.
I I think it will be a goodgame I, I want to pick ohio
state.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
I really, really do.
I'm on the wagon, I just I.
I'm kind of the same way I feelagainst Tennessee, now that
Oregon is seen.
That's not the team we played.
That's a much better team thanwe played.
I also think Dan Lanning is ina lot of people's heads.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
He just.
He's not somebody I like, hejust seems very annoying to me.
If you pick Oregon here, andiostate goes out and plays like
they did last week I have topick, I have to pick against
them every week yeah everysingle game.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I so my biggest concern is the same thing that
we said the first time theyplayed, when we, you know
pre-podcast.
We talked about they if theycan't pressure dylan gabriel,
they cannot win, because if yougive him time he can hurt you.
Like, if you give him that muchtime and space to just throw it
, you're in trouble.
And I don't think that he'sjust this top tier like going to
be the best thing ever NFL typequarterback.

(14:53):
I just think at this level yougive him time, he can destroy
you.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
It's like what we said a minute ago Oregon has so
much speed.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
They're so fast.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
You cannot sit back on them.
You've got to send the house.
Send Captain Jack on.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I am picking Ohio State.
I am picking Ohio State.
I just think we have to see atleast something that we saw last
week for them to pull it out.
I agree, I do.
I also think Oregon, with thatadditional week off, maybe
playing somebody else, it'ssomething.
But Ohio State has a lot toplay for this game.
You know it's, it's, it'savenging a loss it's at the rose

(15:28):
bowl.
Yeah, exactly, it's a huge huge, which it's basically a home
game for oregon.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
They're going to travel there well, that's true,
that's gonna be tough I hatethat, but that's always been a
big thing, for you know big 10of the buckeyes to get to the
rose bowl.
Oh true, you know it's littlesomething different this year
it's very different now than itused to be.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
But yeah, to be in the Rose Bowl is always a big
deal, yeah, so next game, Ithink, is kind of an intriguing
one.
I don't know what's going tohappen.
Boise State, penn State Anythoughts there?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
It might be the closest game that we see, but I
think Penn State gets them Justrunning the ball.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
I'll be honest with you.
Penn State's offense stilldidn't look great Against SMU.
They had two pick sixes prettyearly, three interceptions in
the first half.
It wasn't a great Showing bySMU, but at the same time, kind
of what I said about Penn StateIs they could be really good If
they can score points.
Now they ran the ball well.

(16:26):
That's what I think they'll do.
But.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
But Allard didn't look impressive like he didn't
look like he could you know,just shred a defense, you're
taking them off their blue field.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I don't know if they can handle it.
I mean you're right.
You're right, I mean they've.
They've won everywhere, butthey've not won convincingly
everywhere.
I still think uh, they'rerunning back um Heisman finalist
.
I think, he'll still probablybreak 100 yards, because I think
he's going to run it 40 times.
I think it's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
But I don't know.
I'm curious to see if he canrun as he has against Penn
State's defense.
Just bigger line, bigger guys.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I would say the line is much more pressure, it's
bigger size, they're faster.
We'll see.
I don't know.
I think they'll still get some.
Really, their only loss thisyear was Oregon, but Oregon is
more speed than they arestrength, so I'm just not really
sure how that will go.
It might be the closest game Ithink I'm picking Penn State,
but yeah, I think it could be athree to seven-point game,
probably low scoring If BoiseState Doesn't turn over the ball

(17:24):
.
Yeah, we could see 17-10.
We could see 14-10.
It could be pretty, Pretty low.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Like I said, a lot of running the ball Clock going a
lot Probably end up being Afairly short game.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, most likely.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Most likely Because I think both teams Are just Now
that I've said this, they'regoing to book it up.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Throwing it out of nowhere.
It's going to be basketballscores at this point uh okay,
then the final one.
Uh, georgia and notre damegeorgia.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
That's all I got to say.
Kirby, smart I'm picking notredame I'm not a georgia fan, by
no.
I know you're not, I fully knowthat.
But I've seen them over andI've like, every time you count
them out, they're there.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
I am gonna take freeman and the irish um.
I know there's one person thatheck.
You probably won't listen tothis for weeks because you get
so far behind in this you justdon't have time to listen to
them.
But I know you'll be happy tohear this.
I think I am picking them.
I don't think Georgia matchesup great with them.
I think they've got a decentline.

(18:19):
Not sold on the backupquarterback either for Georgia.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
That's the key the backup quarterback.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Excuse me, not sold on the backup quarterback either
for Georgia.
That's the key, the backupquarterback.
And, excuse me, Notre Dame hasreally just been playing better,
Like since that loss early inthe season.
They've not really had a closegame.
They're kind of just going inthere like, hey, we're here to
do some business and get out ofhere, and that's what they've
done.
So I think they're a very solidteam that could absolutely make
a run.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, I do think they're another team playing
with a chip on their shoulder.
They've got something to prove.
They're not in a conference.
Everybody always comes out.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
When they come out and they're like well, the
highest that they could ever getis a five.
I'll prove that.
I can prove you wrong with that, because if we come out next
year undefeated best team in thecountry and come playoff time,
you give us a five.
Yeah, like that, that's anissue like.
I don't like that.
That's why I say get rid of thewhole conference championship
thing.
Like best teams are best teams.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
That makes yeah, you shouldn't have to be in a
conference.
If you're good enough, you'regood enough no, and it's.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's one of the few teams that it makes sense for
them not to have one.
It's just like historicallywhat they've done.
Um, you know there's plenty ofmoney there for them to stay
independent.
You know they, they're ACC andeverything else.
I mean they've been ACC forbasketball for many years now?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, they might as well just jump in there.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
To win it every single year.
Yeah, Like I couldn't imaginethem losing ACC.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I don't know what the ?
I know it's a traditional thing, but I don't know why they stay
independent.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I mean I guess you get a whole lot more.
So, like they have, at onepoint they had their own network
.
It was like an Irish network,yeah, cause then when you get
these big conferences and theydo money shares and especially
the ACC is one that they talkedabout crumbling cause they're,
the shares were awful, Like alot of the teams didn't really
like it.
Um.
So yeah, I mean I guess make alittle bit more sense of it, but

(20:08):
that's really the only reason Ican see it at this point
Getting to make your own dealsand kind of getting to do
whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Well, I'm curious to see how these games play out.
I think it's New Year's Eve.
We get a game and then three onNew Year's Day, or something.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Something like that.
Yeah, kind of similar to this.
Today I would prefer two andtwo or all four, like.
I just don't like the one andthree.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
That's a I don't know what time it starts new year's
eve, but that one kind of feelsweird, because a lot of people
are doing things on new year'seve or you know we're gonna
watch the ball drop, or you knowwhatever if, even if you're not
I don't think I've watched theball drop in like two or three
years uh, we'll put it on therefor the kids and stuff.
If you know, brooklyn's usuallystill I.
I just don't I don't care.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Like it's, it's new year's, it's another day to me.
Like it doesn't feel like aholiday, like nothing special,
like christmas is its its ownthing, like there's just so much
with christmas yeah um, thatnew year's is just kind of like
why it is celebrating.
It's a week later, yeah exactly, and there's really there's
nothing to it like it's not likea gift thing.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
It's.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Christmas extended.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
In a way, and it's not really worth it at that
point.
We're going to keep Christmasgoing for the week until we get
the New Year's, and then we'llstart over.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Well, that's kind of how everybody feels.
Anyways, it's well, I'll keepmy Christmas lights up until
then.
Oh yeah, we do.
You keep them up until NewYear's.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
A lot of people their offices and things like that
close for that week between thetwo.
You know school's out.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Well, that makes me think.
You know, I sent an email ortwo the other day trying to
inquire about some equipment andsome different things, and
they're like oh yeah, we'll beback in the office January 6th.
I'm like how, that's not NewYear's.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
No.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's a whole week after the fact, Like how are you
off until?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
then?
Well it's, you know, Christmasand New Year's falls in the
middle of the week, Right, Likeboth of them.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, Wednesday is such a weird time.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
It kind of takes two full weeks, I guess.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Well, that's the hard part is like you work Monday.
They kind of usually give youChristmas Eve, christmas off and
it's like all right, well, it'sa Thursday, you kind of have to
go back to work.
I know Thursday, friday, youkind of don't really get much.
This year.
When it's in the middle of theseason, it's wow, I don't even
know what word I'm trying to sayat this point.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I don't know where you're going.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
When it's in the middle of the week, it's tough.
I've been on seasons and yearsand holiday season.
Holiday season that was theproblem.
I looked at the Christmascalendar movie bracket and I was
thinking holiday season and youknow I'm excited to get to that
are we gonna do a new year'sbracket, next new year's movie
bracket?
It's a week later.
I don't have time it's notworth it for me.

(22:30):
I don't have time for that um,yeah, this, um you know, it's
been interesting to see how thisplayed out on social media yeah
, so obviously we, we kind oflet the fans do a vote and pick
all their you know their winnerper round and everything.
Um, not saying we're not goingto follow that at all, but kind

(22:52):
of the whole point of this is,this is kind of our uh, our, our
thoughts on the top 12 and Iwant to see if we're going to
line up with the people or notyeah, I mean I know you've got
it pulled up over there, so Imean I'm I'm good with jumping
into round one.
Let's get the party started.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Okay, I know you're getting situated.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Jumping around, you're shaking the whole room.
I mean it's a mess over there.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
You just called me fat.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Gosh, I'm shaking the whole room moving around.
Listen.
Wow, your little one could jumpin here and shake the whole.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
This floor is.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's not a fat joke If I was going to call you fat.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I'd say, yeah, you're fat.
We don't have our professionalstudio built yet, so if anybody
wants to sponsor that, anydonations for a professional
studio.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
You know Small ask, we still have a small budget.
At the moment it's theChristmas season.
Okay, come on, guys, you reallycare about us.
You'd help us out, that's right.
Such good content.
So no, I'm good.
We'll jump right into the firstone, which would be National
Lampoon's Christmas Vacation anda Muppet Christmas Carol which

(23:51):
I don't think you had seen theMuppets before we had put it on
the list.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
First time I'd seen it, I went back I said on the
last podcast I was going to tryto watch all 12.
You got most of them, I gotmost of them.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
There's a couple I skipped that.
I'm like I've seen it 10billion times.
If I have to skip that one,I'll skip that one.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, so I went back and watched both of these.
The people picked NationalLampoon's Christmas Vacation
Through social media.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
So I was talking to a couple people today and they
were telling me that's liketheir favorite movie and I'm
like I just don't get it.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Again.
I put that on the list and Ithink it's a good movie.
I think it's.
I think it is very much so a,at this point, a classic
Christmas movie.
So many people want to watch it.
It kind of just falls in line.
It's truly about Christmas,it's all you know it's it really
follows all those rules.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I mean, it's kind of I don't even want to use the
word funny, because I didn'tfind it that funny.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I know you didn't really enjoy it at all.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
It wasn't as good as I thought I had remembered.
Maybe it wasn't as good beforeeither, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
There's too many scenes they kind of left hanging
when I text you it was way moreslapstick humor than I really
remember it being Like thelittle things of how he gets
hurt or the little things of howhe gets hurt or but I just
never found it funny backgroundnoises Like it just felt very
they never three stooge.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
They just never followed through with the scene
to make me want to laugh at it.
And and at the end of the movieI remember pausing it, so the
little time thing would pop upand I still had like five
minutes left and I was like, ohman, I need this.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh man, I need this to come on.
I probably should have turnedit off at that point, but I was
hoping something would get meback.
So the thing is, though, funnyenough, that movie and the
Muppet movie are almost theexact same runtime it's like
right at an hour and a half.
Okay, so what was your thoughtson Muppet Christmas?
Because that was your firsttime seeing it, which you would
say.
I don't even think you hadwatched any Christmas Carol
story.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I've heard of you know Scrooge yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Ebenezer Scrooge Right.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
But uh no, I'd never seen the story, Right Um, it's
old school, you know it's kindof it's early nineties.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, it's, it's dated.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
What, just in the story itself, is kind of dated
better than I expected andbecause of that I'm going up.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's Christmas Carol, so I put both of these on the
list.
Um, so they're.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
They're fighting against each other, oh, by the
way real quick, yeah uh, I wantto say thank you to Brian Becca
and Maddie they did the seatingfor us, so they did that we did
a great job with.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I actually think the the seating turned out really
well.
Yes, as a whole, I got.
I got a couple things that youI see, brian, I'm going to say
come on, dude.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well, but that was the point.
We didn't want our opinion tobe on it To where?
Because we could just move it.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Brian, we text him and it was like, yeah,
absolutely We'll do it.
And then, not only that, hesaid I don't want to do it by
myself.
So he was like we're going todo it.
And then he averaged it out andthen made it for us and it was
like well, heck man, that wasway more than we thought you
were going to do yeah, exactly,so I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
That was great.
That's exactly what we neededto kind of keep our opinions out
of it, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
No.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I'm going with the Muppet Christmas Carol also.
Any other movie I don't knowit's the matchups.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Maybe die hard.
Sometimes it's the matchup.
No, I don't know.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, I'd be honest with you, I might have picked
Die Hard, even though I don'tthink it's a good movie.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
I know it's just it's a good movie.
It's a good movie, but yeah, Ithink a Muppets Christmas Carol,
think that's a good story, likeit's another one it's.
It's not a story that justfollows the same old, same old,
like it was, like it's different, it's something just there was

(27:28):
one odd thing.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I guess you'd say it is I didn't.
I was like what's going on here?
So first of all, it's a muppets, yes, and the first ghost is
this kind of spooky little girl.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
So I'm like wait a minute, I thought this was a
kid's muppet thing.
Yeah, it's like this, likefloating baby head in a way,
like it's.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
It's a little bit odd so that was the the past and
then the future.
One was, like I guess, supposedto be like a creepy death kind
of character yeah, it is, andit's kind of creepy but then the
present was this like bigpuppet.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Well, so the thing is full of energy any other story,
any other version of that storyyou watch.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
It's very similar to that and he already had
something going on his memory.
He couldn't remember that hesaid the same thing.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Five, yeah and I think that's just like and maybe
that's the story.
I don't know I don't rememberall of that but I know like the
present one it was always.
It's a very like kind ofenergetic type character it's.
You know whatever.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
But I will say I would recommend it and it's a
fun movie.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
I forgot the songs, but the songs are actually a lot
better than I remember thembeing um, so it's much more of
like a musical style, but it'sit's a good movie yeah, yeah,
which, by the way, you're not abig batman fan I'm not but uh,
christopher nolan's trilogy ofthe batman, that's alfred, the
guy that plays scrooge in there,that's, that's the the.
But oh, okay.
So so when I saw that, I'm like, oh my gosh, I forgot he's in

(28:44):
this?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
So, yeah, it was going to win for me, I think
either way.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
So we got Muppets, christmas Carol moving on.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Muppets.
So then on to the next one.
We're at Home.
Alone 2 and.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Die Hard.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Die Hard's not a Christmas movie Like it's
following it.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I went and watched it and I hadn't seen it in years.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I watched it like two nights ago.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
There is very little mention of Christmas.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's a Christmas party.
The cops talk about it.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
The ending talks about it, but it's a like if
they were at least exchanginggifts or something or maybe.
But nobody even Listen.
I didn't even see Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I didn't see nothing.
Hans ruined the gift giving.
Santa probably got killed in anelevator, I don't know.
I don't know either.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
That's really dark for the show, I guess.
But um, no, but again homealone two versus die hard.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
How do you pick against?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
home alone two yeah, that's, it is so funny.
I I don't think die hard is achristmas movie.
It is a good movie, butregardless of that, home alone
two is so funny.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
They did a really good job with re-watch,
re-watching it and like all thelittle scenes he does with that
little recording device which mybrother had when I was a kid.
I remember him having it.
I was so jealous of that andit's like you know him with his
uncle in the shower and just allthe little things that he's
doing with it.
Like I just forget, like howquirky and funny it is.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
We were talking about this before the podcast all the
movies with the little lines.
That's another one of.
You know, harry, I reached thetop and things like that.
You know, yes.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yes, it sounds like a tool chest falling down the
stairs.
Like there's just so manylittle things that's so funny.
Yeah, yeah, I'm 100% Home Alone2, like that's enough, like we
move on Home Alone 2, that'senough.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
We move on Home Alone 2.
That's a good movie, but don'twatch it with your kids.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
It is so then on to the next one.
It's a Wonderful Life and theJim Carrey Grinch.
Yep, you are a huge fan of theJim Carrey.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Grinch.
So you go ahead here, because Igot some thoughts, you go ahead
.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
So it's hard.
It's a Wonderful.
Life is a great movie.
It is just it's very old, it'smuch slower.
I think I'm just naturally anewer movie.
I kind of flock to a comedy.
I'm going to go with JimCarrey's Grinch.
Okay, I think that's easy forme.
I love Max.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Max.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, I think it's really funny.
I think it's a good movie.
I yeah, I think I think it'sreally funny.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I think it's a good movie.
I mean when I was a kid at onepoint that was my absolute
favorite movie of any movie it'ssomewhat after it came out, but
it's again.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's probably it starts to feel a bit dated.
Even now it does like just someof the Whoville and some of
that stuff.
It does feel a little bit dated.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I've been on the, you know really wanting to push
that movie along some Right,because I feel like that's who
the Grinch is supposed to be.
Kind of this mean, heartlesscharacter, and that's how he
starts out in the movie A littlemore evil, not just mean yeah,
A little darker yeah yeah, notthat he's.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
No, I mean, he never really hates anybody, he just
doesn't like Christmas.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Nothing crazy, but it's still like he's a little
bit darker.
But so going back and watchingthat it was much more funny than
I remembered.
I laughed several times some ofthe quotes.
You know it's that sarcasticfunny and and I guess I might
say I'm a little sarcasticmyself at times- so well.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Jim carrey could not have played any better.
I mean, he did a fantastic job,I think the costume that they
put on him was really good too.
It felt like the Grinch, itjust felt like a really good
person.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Whoville a little weird Some of the characters
Whoville's a little odd, I agreewith that and it done a really
good job of telling the story ofChristmas isn't all about
presents, right?
I think it did really good withthat.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
And then so think it did really good with that and
then so what it's up against.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I forgot, well, so it's up against.
Uh, it's a wonderful life, it'sa wonderful life.
So I went and started watchingit and I got about 30 minutes in
.
Yep, it was like very, verylate night and I was like I'm
gonna finish it tomorrow andtomorrow might come, but I
didn't came.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Okay, so you may eventually finish watching it,
but you haven't yet.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I think I will, just because I want to know what
happens.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
So I love the story of it.
It's another one like it's notsomething we see, it's not a
just Santa Claus, you knowpresence, it's not just that
story.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well, that's the thing.
I really don't know what thestory is yet.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Well I would say, yeah, 30 minutes in.
You definitely know.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
But it was just the dialect and everything was kind
of hard to follow.
It's from like the 40s.
I mean the Pharmacist slappedthe bully.
I was like what am I watching?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
It's very old, it is not stood the test of time.
Great, but I still do thinkit's a really good story.
It's a really good movie andit's kind of that same style of
life worth living.
It's not all about presence,there's just so much more to it.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Talking about.
We put this on social media.
So, going back to the NationalLampoon's Vacation one on social
media, we're not going thatroute Home Alone, 2-1, obviously
we were going that too, and onthis one, the Jim Carrey Grinch
one but I was surprised how manyvotes it's a Wonderful Life got
, and so there's clearly a groupof people that maybe enjoy that
.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I remember I saw in one of the comments I think it
was actually Brian'ssister-in-law, maybe it was like
well, they left out Rudolph.
Oh yes, but it's like those areall the movies that you see on
TV every year.
You see Frosty, you see Rudolph, you see it's a Wonderful Life,
you see what is it?
Miracle on 34th Street?
You see those movies.
Those are just constantly on TVevery single year.
And again David actuallyreminded me.

(34:14):
I kind of left it on acliffhanger.
Probably nobody's even going toremember this.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
A movie I said my mother loves that we didn't put
on this list is a christmasstory I know I was listening to
back to the podcast and you saidI just got talking about other
things.
We went on to something elseand I was like wait a minute, I
don't even know what it is, yeahso a christmas story, but on
tnt every single year.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
I think it starts tomorrow.
Maybe it's a 24-hour marathonof that movie.
I've never seen I despise it Imight watch it, just because
I've seen seen it, not evenbecause I've seen it so many
times.
Don't get me wrong.
Every year I've watched it withmy mom because she loves it.
I will watch it, but it's justAren't you a good son?
I've never thought it was ayeah, I've not been accused of
that too many times, but I'venever just thought it was that

(34:54):
good of a movie.
No-transcript, the allure of it, um, all right, so continuing
on.
So you picked Jim Carrey Grinch, right, I did.

(35:15):
Okay, I did so.
Yeah, we're so far, we're,we're all kind of right there,
which it makes sense to mebecause I mean, both of us kind
of flock to a comedy more.
We kind of just yeah, uh, youknow, kid friendly type stuff,
like just kind of happens.
Um.
So the last one, uh, theanimated grinch, which is the
newer, new one, uh, benedictcumberbatch voiced um verse

(35:36):
jingle all the way so the, theanimated grinch, I have seen 10
000 times, probably over thepast couple years.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Just because my little boys love it, I think
yours do too.
My little one especially wewatch it, which I have seen
10,000 times Probably Over thepast couple years, just because
my little boys love it.
I think yours do too.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
My little one especially.
We watch it year round.
We had to buy it and downloadit on his iPad Because he wants
to watch it all the time.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
And I think maybe that's the audience it's going
for, Because of the one with JimCarrey it was not really as
much for kids.
It's kind of scared some kids alittle bit.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Probably it is but it's got a little bit more
scarier undertones.
Yeah, but where this one, likehe's barely even rude.
Yeah, it's just such adifferent character, and for
that reason like the movie'sgreat If you watch it with your
kids or whatever.
Oh, it's a good movie.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, it's a good movie and get the story out.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
But Well, but even my wife, she said this a million
times.
She said the first couple timesI watched it I didn't like it.
She's like I didn't think itwas a good movie.
And she said you know, afterit's forced on your throat
15,000 times, you have to see it.
You know she's like well, Iactually really think it's funny
, it's cute.
You know, the song's a littlebit different, they're a little

(36:44):
more, more with than you can.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
A live action.
There's some jokes in therewith him finding the reindeer
and things like that.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, it's definitely got some funny stuff.
Yeah, the screaming goat thatscares everybody away.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
So it's some funny stuff.
I kind of want to go back andwatch the original Grinch from
years ago and see which the 50sor whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Just see which one it's like so it's more like the
Jim Carrey one to me.
He's a little darker, which itis the true, dr Seuss.
It's got the rhyming, it's gotthe narrator in the back.
It's the very old style.
So I think that moves us intoour next round.

(37:25):
Well, no, we didn't say, a winthere.
Oh, we didn't.
We didn't Anime Grinch orJingle All the Way.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
I watched Jingle All the Way too.
Jingle All the Way is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's a good movie.
Yeah, I remember when I was akid I got a Turbo man and that
was the coolest toy ever.
I didn't know it was a real toy.
Oh, it was absolutely real, Ihad it.
I actually went on and looked.
So they came back out with itearly 2000s or early 2010s, I'm
sorry.
They re-released that toy, kindof like a repush of that movie.

(37:54):
It wasn't exactly the same.
It felt a little bit cheaper.
You know, didn't get that one.
Well, I found an original oneon eBay oh $500.
Original one on ebay oh fivehundred dollars, holy smokes.
And I'm like there's no shotbecause, like, if I bought that,
I couldn't open it like itwould just be such a like, an
established like you could so.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
So you said you got a turbo man music kit.
I did.
But was your dad turbo man?
Oh, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Oh, and I gotta tell a little funny my dad couldn't
fill out that suit like arnoldschwarzenegger gonna.
Are you kidding me?
Like nothing against my dad,like he's in great shape for his
age especially, but yeah, likethat Arnold in that movie like
he's jacked, he's jacked yeahthere's no way that reminds me,
so I haven't even said this tomy wife yet.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
We were talking the other day about that movie and I
hadn't seen it yet.
It's been a few years sinceseen it, and we were talking
about his accent and she saysthe kid's name in an accent and
we were talking about the kid'sname being Charlie, because he
says Jolly, jolly and that's theterrible accent.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
When I got to watch it I was like wait a minute his
name's Jamie.
It ain't even Charlie.
Yeah, I was going to saywhere's Charlie, but it's
because of the way he says thatit's like Jamie, you know it's.
Yeah, I don't know the reindeerin my head and that accent.
She's been trying to get me tosay it and I'm like I don't have
that accent.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
It just happens in my head well.
So I mean I just one time Iwanted, I wanted to hear what
was in your head.
But then I thought about it.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
That could go.
That could go many differentways.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
So we're going jingle all the way.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Uh, yeah, I am going jingle all the way.
It's.
It's such a good movie, likeit's just.
It's so funny to me.
Um Sinbad, you know, waspopular at the time.
Yep, don't really know whathappened to him, I haven't
really even looked into him.
I don't know what happened tohim either to be honest with you
, but he just he played thatcharacter well, Like the cop,
all the stuff that happens tohim, Like it was just really

(39:36):
funny and so, yeah, that movesus into our next round, and
we've got some tough matchups inthis round honestly so.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
This is where we had the top four seeds gotta buy
yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
So if you haven't seen, the matchups are tough to
pick from.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah, so if you haven't seen the rack, you can
actually see it on our socialmedia.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Not, it is on, not amused for you and it is also on
the for you golf uh page bothinstagram and facebook, so
please go check out both andwe'll post.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Post that probably tomorrow with the champion from
there, and we might post ourstoo, I don't know.
Might as well post ours.
I mean, ours is the only onethat matters, that's true, like
they voted, but we matter.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I'm the one with a mic.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
My show so that moves us into the first Home Alone is
taking on a Muppet ChristmasHome Alone 1.
End of story, move on.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Okay, I'm moving on.
I think you agree.
Right, I don't disagree.
Home Alone is so good.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Now there's only two Home Alone movies.
Oh yes, they've made like 10.
Yes, there are only two HomeAlones.
As soon as you got away fromKevin McAllister it is no longer
Home Alone.
You should have stopped it yeah, yeah, I actually saw they had
a list of all four.
I don't know if it was onDisney Plus or what I was on and
I'm like one and two, justnostalgic pictures.
I'm like I've seen three a fewtimes very, very different.

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Didn't even know four existed.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
I Talking to somebody today about it and I said Home
Alone 2, and they're like, wasthat the one with the RC car?
And I was like no, that's 3.
Yeah, like we're not confusingthose.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Don't you dare confuse those.
This is New York.
Yes, I mean, it's a verydifferent story.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
So Home Alone.
1 moves on.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yes, home Alone 1 moves on.
It's on to the quarterfinals.
So, or Excuse me, semifinalsNext.
Christmas with the Cranks, homeAlone 2.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Christmas with the Cranks, my wife's probably
favorite movie.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
That might be one of her favorite movies, even not.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Christmas and I kind of hinted at this a little bit.
I got a unique take on this, soI'll let you go first.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
For me it's back to the Home Alone 2 is funnier, so
I go with that.
There are so many quotablelines, there's so many just
little things and it's honestlythat's a movie to me that it has
stood the test of time reallywell.
It has Like it doesn't look asdated as it is.
It's from like 1992.
It's got Donald Trump in it.
Yeah, Like in the hotel.

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It's just this random.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Trump he looks so young.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Wasn't it that they were in or something?
Yeah, I think it might've been.
Yeah, um, or probably he'sthere buying it or something,
but he looks so young in thatand it's.
It's very weird to to see thatnow, especially.
You know, when that movie cameout, him being a politician was
nowhere near you know happening,which is kind of funny now that
you know all the stuff he does.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
I've seen everything now.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I've seen him in that movie, but yeah, I mean that
the Homeless Lady like it's justtoo good of a movie and I agree
with everything you said aboutHomeless Lady.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
It's a great movie and it might move on anyways,
but so Christmas of the Cranksis a very good movie.
I believe that Tim loves themovie.
We watch it every year.
Yeah, there's one issue I havewith that movie.
Okay, it drives me nuts everyyear.
Okay, okay, if you've not seenit, you've seen it.
Whatever.
I'll refresh your memory.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Their daughter goes off to college, or whatever
she's not peace corps, peacecorps, that's right peace corps
and she's not going to be homefor peru, I think it was yep and
so they always do this bigchristmas.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Their whole neighbor does this big christmas, and all
this and they put their housesin the house.
Yeah, yeah for the whole, andso they're always not going to
be there.
And so tim allen, the thehusband, talks his wife and
let's go to the beach or cruiseor whatever it is, yeah instead
of having, we're going to skipchristmas they're going to save
money.
They're going to go on a cruiseand everybody in that
neighborhood loses their mind,gives them such a hard time.

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Yeah, and every year I tell mywife if he don't want to have
Christmas, leave him alone.
What does it matter?
Yeah, and I can't stand itevery year.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
It's kind of like the whole HOA thing.
It's like if one does it, y'alldo it, type thing, which I
think is stupid.
I'm the same way.
I'm like look.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
He doesn't put his house on the roof and they get
mad at him If I don't Like you,put up Christmas lights every
year.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I never put Christmas lights up.
Well, partially, like where Ilive, nobody would see them.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
That's it.
I'm dropping Christmas lightsoff and you got to put them up.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
It's your turn.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, I'm going to come hang them for you.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I don't know.
If you want to come hang them,you can.
I'm just not doing it myself.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
If my wife said today , let's head to Florida, and
we're going to be, let's go.
We're putting the presents inthe car.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I don't think I'd be gone Christmas, because I
remember as a kid we actuallywent to my grandma, dorothy,
when she was still living inTennessee.
We went to her house and weactually had Christmas there.
Think about how full your caris just on a normal vacation and
now you have to pack, like Igot a bicycle that year.
I don't know how they put thatin the car.

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Maybe they bought it when wegot there.
I don't know if Grandma Dora, Idon't remember.
I mean, I was very little atthis point.
I was maybe six, seven yearsold.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Did you go on a trailer with you?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
No, but I mean, we just took one of our cars and it
was like how the heck did wetake that many presents?
Yeah, Like like that.
But that was the only time Ican remember us having christmas
away from home and it felt verydifferent.
I didn't, I didn't care for it,it was just a very different
feel.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Christmas just feels more right when, when you're in
your own space, like yeah, Iknow I get that and I don't know
anytime we can get out of town.
I'm not gonna skip, I'm notgonna skip going to the beach.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
But that to me it's like all right, I all right,
I'll leave the day after.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Leave the day after Christmas.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
We'll go over New Year's.
I'm going to leave over NewYear's.
Let's go to the beach.
I'm all for it.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Back to the movie.
A little bit, yeah, so themovie's a good movie.
That was just the pet peevethat every year I'm like I get
frustrated.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Like leave the there's you about that movie
does not surprise me at all.
Like for you, I'm sitting herethinking.
Earlier today you said, hey, Ihave a take on that, I'll tell
you later.
Okay, now that I've heard it,I'm like, of course, that was
your problem I mean it really isnot, you know, the drunk
looking santa that they invitein their house, that they don't
know who he is, not the factthat the guy is robbing them
blind and the cops are thebiggest joke I've ever seen.
Nope, it's the man doesn't wantto put up Frosty, don't make him

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.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
They get him such a hard time over it and I'm like
leave him alone.
So with that, home Alone 2.
Such a weird complaint.
You're so weird, home Alone 2.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Next, sorry, next matchup that puts Elf versus Jim
Carrey Grinch.
Quite a few people I've talkedto.
Elf is like number one for them.
That is the movie for them.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
And I think every movie we've talked about so far
other than I said about it's aWonderful Life I have watched.
I did not watch Christmas withthe Cranks because I already
knew I had that take.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
You've seen that so many times.
Yeah, I remember y'all watchevery year but both of these I
watched recently yes, this past.
Yes, um.
Yes, you're right, I'm gonnatake this one first however you
want to do it, everybody loveself good you, I know your take
on this kind of somewhat notfully, but so you go ahead on
this one.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Everybody loves elf.
Some people has that theirnumber one movie.
It's actually on social media.
It's in our championship roundright now today it is yep and I
watched it.
It's funny.
It's got some funny parts.
It's just not funny enough forme compared to the Jim.
Carrey Grinch, because I waspleasantly surprised how much I

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laughed at the Jim Carrey Grinch.
I really was.
And for that reason alone, justbecause I feel like I laughed a
little bit more not that Elf'snot a good movie I'm going Jim
Carrey Grinch just for thatreason alone.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
All right, so this is going to be our first time that
we're not agreeing.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
I knew it was coming eventually.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
So what I love and I've already said this a couple
times what I love about Elfthere's no other story like it.
It stands alone in thatcategory.
The fact that human orphan goesinto the bag, goes up to the
North Pole, it's a verydifferent.
Raised by elves, it's a verydifferent story and I think it's

(47:42):
hilarious.
He's so childlike when he comesbecause all he knows is
Christmas spirit.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
That is true.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Like, all he knows is Christmas and you know the love
of Christmas, so he doesn'treally know real world.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Some of the things he does is really funny, but it's
also annoying at times becauseit's so over the top.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I just think it's so, it is so over the top, but it's
so just like over the topChristmas to him, you know.
And there's so again.
There are so many lines in thatmovie that we quote year round.
You know when he's like.
You know you sit on a throne oflies Like that, that's
hilarious.
Or when he calls that dude anangry little elf and he comes

(48:19):
across that conference roomtable.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
You're right, that is very funny, you can't tell me
that's not hilarious.
It's a funny movie.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
So I hadn't watched Elf in probably two or three
years before I did last week.
And they're talking about MilesFinch.
Miles Finch, I'm like gosh whoplays Miles Finch.
And then when I see him, I'mlike oh, yes, exactly, I was
like immediately and he's like Ididn't know you had elves
working here, and it's just youleft the North Pole.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
It's just so hilarious.
It is by no means trying totake away from the movie.
It's a good movie.
No, and again this was thehardest one I had so far.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
So I'm picking Elf, but this is not me saying Jim
Carrey Grinch isn't good.
Yeah, it's again one of those.
Probably another matchup.
They probably both win.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Oh, I agree, 100%, it's just against each other I'm
like this I gotta go hard forme by far all right.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
So we we knew at some point we would probably have
something and need a tiebreaker,so, surprisingly enough for
those of you that know uspersonally, we actually came
prepared all right and I knowthat's weird for you to hear um,
but we have five, five people.

(49:26):
There are friends, family, butnot ones that we typically knew.
Hey, they're just automaticallygoing to pick this one.
Yeah, what we did is we kind ofwent to some kind of outer.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
I found two people, you found two people, and then
we had a third party findsomebody that we don't know at
all Right.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
So we actually found a co-worker of my wife who has
nothing to do with those picks.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Well, I'm just going to go ahead and tell you the two
people.
I asked, said Elf on thismatchup.
Okay, so that's already tworight there, so all you need is
one more of the other three.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
My first person said Grinch, really.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
He's like.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I am a huge Jim Carrey fan.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Let's go.
I will pick him on everything.
I think I know who that is.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
But the other one picked the elf.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Okay, I figured somebody was going to do it.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
My other person picked elf, so we really have to
go to our fifth person.
I actually, surprisingly enoughagain, we're somewhat prepared,
but not fully prepared.
The fifth one neither of usknow.
We don't even know the answers.
We purposely was like we don'twant to know, because if I have
three that say it, or David hasthree that say it, we're already
going to know the winner, andit's like we kind of want to be
a little bit surprised on any ofour possible tie that we need

(50:36):
the tiebreakers for.
So we asked probably three orfour different ones.
It was like, hey, what wouldyou pick here, because these are
the ones we think could be ourties.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
So with that, though, that means Elf is moving on,
elf moves on, and that happenedon social media as well.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
It did.
Yeah, Elf moved on.
Yeah, which I mean Elf moved along ways on social media.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
A little funny story there.
We had Elf winning so we put itup on For you Golf and Not
Amused Right.
So I looked at it late lastnight to kind of get the next
day together, yeah, to kind ofmove it forward, and we had Elf
was winning on For you Golf.
Was this the?

Speaker 1 (51:13):
one I'm talking about ?
I don't remember.
I remember you said there wasone winning and one wasn't.
I thought that was next round.
That's next round.
You're right, we'll get to thatin a minute.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Sorry, I'm jumping the gun a little bit.
Hold on See, I got a good storycoming out Stand by.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
He's so excited about this, I'm so excited he needs,
he needs, uh, wolf-era to bringa cup of cocoa.
I got an ornament and anutcracker.
Dear Lord, you watch too muchTikTok.
Um all right.
So next, next one, two ninetiesmovies, um the Santa Claus
verse, jingle All the Way.
Um, this was actually a littlebit tougher for me than I
thought, because Jingle All theWay to me is just such a funny

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movie when he punches thatreindeer I laugh every single
time.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
And then the buddy's after that.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
And he's like you started it.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
And I'm like that's so funny.
Sometimes that's just what yougot to do, right?
Just punch a reindeer yeah, Idon't know about reindeer, I
don't know.
But Just punch a reindeer, justget a.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Yeah, I don't know about reindeer, but I don't know
.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
But every now and then you just see you might get
in trouble for that one Punch anemu.
Oh yeah, I'll punch one in aheartbeat.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Emus are our friends Emu, emu I feel like I say it
wrong.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Every doesn't feel like a real word.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's just like I don't know.
It's fine, just roll on with it, big bird.
Listen, y'all make fun of us.
It's fine, it's all for the funof it, it's for the fun of it.
So, santa claus um, yeah, it's,it's such a good story, you

(52:48):
know, santa falling off his roofand everything like that.
Again, there's just so manylittle little things and it's
just so funny.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
This is one I watch all the time and I even try to
watch some of the others, eventhough the other you know, two
and three, and and some of theepisodes.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
They're not as good as good.
They're not as good becausethat toy santa is just awful.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
No, I agree with that but I think the first one is so
good that it kind of makes mewant okay, let me, let me watch
the others with it.
Yeah, like it's part also one.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
One is such a good story and two like they're kind
of trying to play off a littlebit.
You know he's got to have a mrsclaws and it's just yeah they
try.
It was just it felt like we'retrying to recreate the first
movie, but trying to make itdifferent, and it just kind of
failed at both.
It's almost like eitherrecreate it or do something
completely different.
It just felt a little too halfand half so the second one, it's

(53:33):
okay.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
It's not as good as the first one, but I'm okay with
it.
It's the third one for me, thenit gets way too far out there.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
I haven't watched the third one since I was a kid.
I remember that's the JackFrost one, if I'm not mistaken.
I, if I'm not mistaken, I'llprobably go back and watch it
because at this point, like I'vewatched two, like I want to see
it and I actually want to watchthe episodes they came out with
a couple years ago and thoseare pretty good, but they're I'm
not going to watch them.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
They're modern and kind of different too.
Yeah, it's going to be verydifferent Very very different,
but no I, so this one gotthrough most of it, watched a
little bit more today.
I haven't got to finish it mostrecently, but it's still just
as good as I remembered it it'ssuch a good movie.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
I really enjoy it.
But then too, they change theboy's mother.
It's a different actress and Ihate when that happens.
I just want to see the samepeople stay and it's tough when
they switch.
So actually that brings us intoour semifinals and we got a

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great matchup here.
At first I say they are toughmatchups.
At this point, like once we gotto here, I really had to think,
and I'm not happy about havingto think that hard well, I think
that just shows, though, um,because it happened, like I said
, the jim carrey gr?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Elf, that's borderline for me.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, I understand that.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
But what we end up with right here Home Alone 1
versus Home Alone 2, elf versusSanta Claus yeah, it's the same
thing that happened on socialmedia.
That's what we have now.
Yep, that feels like a good topfour, top four.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
I feel like I could easily put those in whatever
order and be perfectly fine.
I think so too, butunfortunately we've got to keep
going.
I don't know if it'sunfortunate because I say that,
but at the same time I'm likethere's just a couple of these I
feel like are better, One inparticular in my mind.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I just keep pushing, so I flipped on my thoughts with
this first matchup we're fixingto talk about.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Flipped as in, like recent, or flipped as in after
you watched them this year After.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Flipped as in like recent or flipped as in after
you watched them this year,after I watched them this year.
Okay, because we talked aboutit last week and I was home
alone one, by the way, it's homealone one versus home alone two
.
Yeah, um, I was home alone.
One is, it's the first one, it'sthe best, superior, it is and,
and part of my comment was youknow, when you see home alone
two, well it's the same thing.
You already seen it.
But now that I've seen HomeAlone for so many years, it is

(55:47):
two.
Every time I go watch it Ialready know what's going to
happen, right?
So I'm kind of basing it off ofwhich one is better, and I want
to keep watching even though Iknow what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
So my take on that is Home Alone is extremely good.
The just classic pranks that heplays on them, the he plays on
them, the classic, you know justeverything.
But I feel like they are verymuch the same movie, different,
you know, two years apart.
But the second one feels likeit's a better done.
First one like it, just it felt.

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I don't know if it's because youknow macaulay culkin's a little
bit older I don't know I don'tknow what it is, but something
about it just feels so much morepolished and just just as a
better movie.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
It's almost like the, the writers, producers, whoever
kind of learned a little bitfrom that first one that, oh, we
could do this.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Honestly, I don't know if it's the same people
that directed it may not be.
I don't have no clue, but Ijust think so in my mind it's
like work with it.
it makes more sense to me thathe got lost in the airport than
it did that they just left himat home, like that makes because
there's so much commotion.
I can see that.
I know he was in the attic andeverything, but how did he not
wake up and then, like theycounted the neighbor kid that

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was in there, you know, becausehe's backwards and it's like
that just feels very like likein the airport.
You know him getting mixed up,following the wrong guy because
of the jacket, it's just like.
All right, that to me made alittle bit more sense.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
But even in both of them, though in the second one,
even though you're saying, it'sa little more believable when
they get to the gate and she'slike, oh, I'm going to count
them all and Lily's like, no,get on, We'll make sure
everybody's on.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
No, I'm counting my kids, it's very.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
There's still some of that, but that's part of the
movie.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
What I love about 2 versus 1,.
1 feels like everything's kindof just at the house.
Yeah, it pretty much is 2,there's kind of a little bit of
the story that's in the toystore.
But then you've got the hoteland kind of the mini bad guys of
the hotel which in realitythey're just trying to check on
this kid who's at that point?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
got a stolen credit card, they did play them as
villains, almost they did yeah,yeah, at that point I was stolen
credit card.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
They did play them as villains, almost they did.
Yeah, they really did, becauseyou find yourselves wanting to
not like them.
Yeah, um, and it's funny too,like rob schneider is one of
those that's in it.
It's like how in the hell, likeit's such a young rob schneider
you know, because you knowobviously him with adam sandler
and everything he does now justfelt very different back then I
know, I feel like I should seeadam sandler somewhere right, um
, but then you know, using thatclown in the shower for those

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guys and he absolutely destroyshis shin on that table, like I.
I crack up that every singletime.
But then to go to thatabandoned apartment building,
like that's just too funny forme.
The, the pranks to me were justlike a step above.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
They were like I mean , like really, really difficult
there's one part that I kind ofsqueamish every time is when he
steps on the nail that's thefirst one oh, that is the first
one, so oh, you're right goingup the stairs.
Yes, he does it in the first,but there's a couple of those
yeah, pranks like that.
The second one is the staplegun right yes yes, that's the
one that, yes, but then, butthen again the staple gun.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
He's like got it in his butt and he's got that
string that's going around thefront to the back and I'm like
that's just so funny.
Now I love the fact too thatit's the same bandits, but it's
like it's those two guys andit's just following the whole
thing.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
They're so dumb, though I mean oh, of course, of
course just like the stable.
He pulls it and he just keepspulling the rope like how am I?

Speaker 1 (58:58):
who's gonna keep, just keep on going you really
got this last year.
You know what's coming rightright, I just, to me that movie
is just it's so funny, so funny,so I I kind of just I've really
just gone with home alone 2, Idon't feel like I could argue
again.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I never thought these would come together in the
bracket no, I.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
So we actually at one point thought, depending on the
rankings, those could be in thefinal they could be, yeah, that
could have been a championshipand we had a tough time with it.
Yeah, but I'm going home alone.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
2, moving it on yeah, no, they're both great movies.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
After watching them again home alone 2, a little
more uh yeah, if you haven'twatched that movie in a while,
listen to me talk.
I pretty much talked about thewhole movie, yeah, so, yeah,
sorry about that I did thinkboth of those um.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
They moved quicker than I remembered like we got to
the action quick, yeah, and so,yeah, I'm with you home alone
too.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I didn't think I would say that last week, but
after watching them home on, twois better than okay, one nice
moving on uh, so that puts usinto elf and the santa claus, um
two, just full-on christmas, aschristmas gets.
Movies like those are christmasmovies, not really movies
you're gonna watch many othertimes.
Uh, we're home alone movies.
I mean, I could probably watchthem anytime.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
These movies would just feel christmas time yeah,
and I've already talked aboutelf a little bit.
Yeah, um, I love santa clausand I just have to say santa
claus is better than the elf.
Santa claus runs the elf'sworker santa claus.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
That's enough said well, so I I did say this the
other day and I I kind of forgotabout it.
I hate the shape and size ofSanta's sleigh in Elf.
In Elf, yeah, it's like thisweird long shaped.
It is different.
That may be why because youjust kind of use that smaller.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Maybe it's supposed to be modern because he's kind
of in modern New York City.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
I don't know it just feels so weird I don't know.
I didn't like that.
I'll let you talk about this alittle bit For me.
I'm picking Elf, I'm going Elfon that one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Over Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Oh, I didn't know that I know, Hmm, I know, I
don't know if we have atiebreaker for this one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
We'll be fine.
Okay, yeah, we'll be good onthat one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Okay, well, I am, yeah, I'm saying Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
So I know where that falls on your list.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Yes, because Santa Claus is great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Santa Claus is a fantastic movie.
I was honestly earlier today Iwas like Santa Claus.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Santa Claus and even now I'm sitting here saying Elf
and I'm like how am I pickingover the Santa Claus?
Because Santa Claus is so funnyand there's little things in
Elf, like you said.
Even now I'm sitting heresaying elf and I'm like how am I
picking over the Santa Claus,Cause Santa Claus is so funny?
Um, and there there's littlethings in elf, Like you said.
They can be annoying, they canbe this, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
But I what I like about Santa Claus.
There's nothing else like it,and I think you've even
mentioned that before.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
So I feel that way a little bit about elf too, it's.
It's that way it is.
I, I agree with you on that.
But you know, listen, I'm gonnado this, I am going to retract
my statement, I'm gonna switch,I'm gonna go back to santa claus
.
You go back to santa claus now.
Well, because, because I sithere and I think about it.
I'm like, all right, theanimatronic reindeer are awful
they are.
They are horrible, but they'refreaking hilarious like the.
The faces of these.
I don't even know what's goingon here anymore, well, so I
started.
Are awful they are.
They are horrible, but they'refreaking hilarious, like the
faces of these.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I don't even know what's going on here anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Well, so I started talking about the Sleigh and I
started talking about this,started talking about that and
I'm like it's just a betterChristmas movie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Which one?
Santa Claus?

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Okay, I'm so confused Because I like Santa better
like I like santa better insanta claus, I think he's a
better santa than santa of.
Well it's tim allen well butthe, the santa and elf just
feels like an angry old man hekind of is, he doesn't have that
like christmasy feel so I saidelf because there's so many
funny parts and I sit herethinking about you know the uh,

(01:02:42):
you know him calling him anangry little elf and like all
these little parts it is funny,but then I also went back to the
thing I said before.
I said elf versus Santa Claus,these are two Christmas, as
Christmas gets movies.
You only watch them atChristmas time.
And it made me sit here and sayokay, well, I got to pause just
for a second.
Which is a better?
The elves, Santa, the sleigh,the reindeer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
So you're looking more at Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
So I said my answer and I said well, no, I've got to
go back and think aboutChristmas on that side of
Christmas, the commercial sideof Christmas.
Obviously not the Christmasthat we necessarily celebrate
fully, but just that commercialChristmas and Tim Allen's better
Santa Claus the elves beingkids I always thought was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
They're super old, but they're children.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Now you may ask me in a couple years and I may switch
my mind because it's startingto age a little bit poorly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
It is aging a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
It's starting to get pretty rough where elf is just
so much more recent Recency bias.
To me it's like you're going topick elf because it's newer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
I sit there and really thinkabout it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I'm like man, but the Santa Claus is just good Him
trying to shave that beard andit comes back immediately, and
him getting fat really quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
And they're trying to explain it.
I'm being wishy-washy and Ipicked Elf, and then I picked
Santa Claus and I'm going with.
Santa Claus is a better movie.
So just because you're wishing,I was you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
I know him, I know him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Yeah, there's so many things I know that probably is
this is where I struggled.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
I got to this point and I really had a hard time of
picking, because it's just theyare two unique movies to
themselves.
Nobody else does anything likeit.
It was really hard to pick.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
And so I ultimately really didn't think about it
till just now and I was likecrap, which is a better, which
is better?
I mean, I have to go say, eventhough you're back and forth,
you, you make some good pointsthere, because we've said
several little lines and thingsfrom elf right, where santa
claus don't really have that but.
I guess you're right.
As far as you know.
Again, I was picking santaclaus anyways, but it does seem
like it is more of a christmovie.
The Christmas part is better, Iguess you would say.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
And no, this is not like a.
Well, he read the script wrong.
No, this is not a scriptedthing.
This is literally.
Like I've been back and forthon this all day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
You're starting to sound like me.
I'm the one that everybody saysI'm back and forth, can't make
decisions sometimes.
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
I'm usually better at that.
I mean, I'm usually better atthat.
I just this was a tough one,this one's really hard.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Now I'll get to my story that I left everybody
hanging with On For you.
Golf Elf was winning Right, notAmused.
Santa Claus was winning Correct, and so I went back and kind of
put them together and Elfpulled through by one vote.
And when I went back and lookedand I won't name any names, but
you know who you are.

(01:05:30):
This one person voted on boththings, and they're the reason
elf moved forward, so theyshould be very proud of
themselves, and I can't get madthey use the system, they solely
.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
That's the got it forward.
That's impressive, that's smart, that's very smart I can't
fault him at all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
That was the system, uh, and then he made it happen
so he did a good job of that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
You're right he.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
He did the voting the way to be honest, I was glad to
see it because I didn't want tosee a tie and then I got to
deal with a tiebreaker right Idon't want to do that I agree
with that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
If they, if they tied , that'd be even tougher.
Yeah, you know trying to breakthe tie on that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
So in the I know I'm back and forth, but I'm, I'm,
santa claus, yeah the final wehave right now on social media
was different.
We have different than homealone one and elf, and we have
home alone two and the santaclaus, and so I'll tell you what
I'm actually gonna go lookright now if you want to start
talking about next, I'm gonna golook and see what the people
voted on theirs yeah, because Ihaven't seen their final vote.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
What the people voted is their number one.
I almost just assumed Elf,maybe prematurely, because it's
that recency bias.
I think it's just the newermovies on your mind more you've
watched it more Because HomeAlone honestly it doesn't get
played as much I feel like itdid when I was a kid, but it's
only on some kind of obscurechannels at this point.
So yeah, into our finals.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Well, what I do know already just because we have a
different two than the people,the people are wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Oh, they're absolutely wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
I mean I can't help it.
I'm sorry guys.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Get better, just be better.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Like you got the wrong two in the final round
okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Listen, they're all sitting there saying you gave us
the crappy 12.
I would have picked somethingelse.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
okay, probably so I'm sorry, I've heard that a lot,
with different people sayingwell, this one should have been
there, that one should have beenthere.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Oh, I've heard a bunch of people and they're like
, well, I had to put this inthere and I'm like, if I was
pulling a March Madness and wehad 64, sure I could see that
being in there, but hard picking12, having 12 was tough.
I mean just to take it down tolike the top 30, even just
christmas movies, we brought ina 30 to do the draft and that

(01:07:31):
was hard to do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
um so, I'm gonna take this is a close race into our
finals we, we have home alone 2and the santa claus, and we've
kind of already talked aboutboth of these quite a bit we
have we have, and I'm gonnastruggle on this one I, I really
am, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
So we talked a little bit about our bracket this
afternoon pre-podcast, but wedidn't tell each other anything
about our finals.
We said nothing about thefinals because it could be such
a mess.
I know where I'm at with it now.
I know where I'm at with it now.

(01:08:08):
I know my vote and I knowyou're still looking up the
people's vote home alone, oneversus elf.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
I am, and I'm a little surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Was it really close or did one run away?

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
So 4U golf was really close between the two.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Okay, so who ended up pulling that one out?
Home Alone, home Alone, reallyHome Alone.
I actually would not haveguessed that.
So then on, not Amused, whatdid we see?

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Home Alone.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
So Home Alone, just flat out won it for them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Now on For you Golf, which we have a bigger audience
there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Sure, sure, sure Been around longer.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
It was 54% Home Alone , so it was close.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
But 100% I'm not amused.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Now, there wasn't near as many votes?

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Of course not, but still to solely go for it, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
I expected to see Elf be ahead on the For you Golf
page and then have to go seewhat happened, see what happened
on Amused.
Yeah, for the most part otherthan the one I told you, the one
vote making the difference.
Both pages have had the samewinner.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
That's true.
Same winner, that's true?
Yeah, that's true, other thanthat one um now could we get a
couple more votes in tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
I, I doubt it.
It's already kind of late.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Uh, we could, but your votes don't count.
Well, I mean, you've missed thedeadline, we're not gonna get
enough to make up thatdifference.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
No, no, it's a good little difference right now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
So um, so I'm gonna tell you for me when we come
come Home Alone 2 versus SantaClaus.
I've thought about it all day.
If I get to this point, what doI do?
I'm going Home Alone 2.
I just I can't not.
It's just too funny.
It is and the thing is they'relike the exact same year, like
they either came out the sameyear or a year difference, Like

(01:09:51):
they're literally the same timeframe.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
That's going to bring me to a good point.
That's something I've thoughtof.
Why is there no new movies inthis bracket?

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Elf is probably the closest one.
Yeah, and it's pretty old, butthere's nothing that's like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Why are we not getting new Christmas movies?
Is all the takes done Well?

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
so there's a bunch of new Christmas movies.
They're sounding good, but notlike that, not like Santa Claus.
We say elf is more recent.
Do you know what year it cameout?
You gotta guess, I'm gonnaguess 2004.
November 7th 2003, 2003.
Okay, so at this point it's old.
I mean it's 21 years old.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Yeah, like it's so what is up with that?
Why is all these movies older?

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
so I mean, I've had a few people that I talked to
about this bracket.
That was like they would throwout a name and it was a newer
christmas movie and I'm like Ididn't even remember that
existed, like it was so just, itwasn't memorable, it didn't
have the same.
So is it same?

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
feel or anything, is it?
Even though the, the movies aregood, it's the times are
different, like back then,everybody watched it.
Now it's like you've got somuch social media and streaming
you can watch all kinds of otherstuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
I really don't know, um.
So I mean, obviously I know youknow post-covid, everything,
the movie theaters are not thesame, like where you're not
going to the movies the same way, like growing up I mean, movies
was like a, not an everyweekend because it's expensive,
but you know you did it quite abit but if you put out a quality
christmas movie like I, I thinkpeople would gravitate to it

(01:11:18):
because there isn't anything.
But you've got to put it outabout Thanksgiving.
That's when those come out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
So there was a new Christmas movie that came out
this year, and I can't remember.
It's an action movie with theRock or something.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Red One or something like that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
They protect Santa, I think, or something.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
But it's not.
I've not seen it and I'm notreally going to comment on like
is it good or bad.
From the numbers that it madeon opening weekend it didn't
seem like people were reallyinto it.
It wasn't very big.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
And again it's going to be yeah, it's a Christmas
movie because it's got SantaClaus and everything, but is it
really that Christmas movie?

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
that we're talking about here.
I don't know.
I think I mean, obviously timesare different.
The commercial side of all thatis very different.
So I don't know.
I think those movies really do.
Well, I'm to the point.
I'm just like, all right, we'llremake it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Let's do it as a modern of that.
Why not?

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Well, they tried it with Home Alone and it was
horrible they did, but I almostthink you just have to say no,
we're literally remaking one, orwe're literally remaking two,
Not let's do a three and a four.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Yeah, I would like to see a modern version of Santa
Claus, which that's kind of whatyou get in the new episodes,
but it continues with him beingSanta Claus.
I want to see a modern, let'sjust start it over.
He becomes Santa Claus.
Why does he become Santa Claus?

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
And we just have it as a new person, new characters,
new whatever.
Yeah, like I'm not against that.
So I've made my pick.
I don't know where you're athere, because I know you've
deliberated a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
It's a tough one for me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
I'm sticking, you know again.
I changed my mind last round.
Yeah, yeah, everybody laugh,whatever.
Shut up this one.
I'm Home Alone.
2, not questioning it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
I love Home Alone 2.
Watched it last night, as amatter of fact.
You did, yeah, yeah, we weretalking about it today, and I
love the Santa Claus movie thefirst one, and I didn't get to
finish it this weekend but Imean, I know the movie and what
I have watched of it so far tothis point here recently, like

(01:13:18):
it all.
Like, yeah, it all comes backum I know you're.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
You're literally over there struggling, right now
trying to figure out where youwant to go now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
I do think the santa claus is a much more christmassy
movie than home alone it feelslike so yeah, it's, it's santa
elves presents, it's, it ischristmas now it's almost.
You know the, the magical partof christmas versus more of the

(01:13:53):
family traveling presents,christmas tree, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
The destroyed bad guys with inanimate objects.
Christmas Exactly, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
That's not part of most people's Christmas no.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I've never had a Christmas that way.
I haven't either.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Now I mean, I don't think it'd probably turn out the
way.
I don't think I'd be as good asKevin McAllister was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
No, no, he was way more creative than I would be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Yeah, but I think I'm going Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
I just had a feeling you were going to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
It just feels more Christmassy.
I really like Tim Allen andagain, that's not taking
anything away from Home Alone 2or any of the Home Alone.
I love those movies, To behonest, the two that's there,
that's why they're there.
That is my two favoriteChristmas movies, oh sure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Sure, yeah, and I knew once we saw these in the
finals it was going to be tough,because it's like man, those
are both good Like I couldeasily see them making it.
The same way I could have sawElf making it.
The same way I could have seenthe first Home Alone making it.
Like those four was like man.
These are tough decisions.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
They uh first home alone.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Making it like those four was like man, these are
tough decisions that they are,and um, we're probably already
gonna get some slack for elf,not?

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
making it to our finals.
Um listen, you guys were wrongjust just get over it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Get over it okay.
Don't be wishy-washy like me,just get over it okay um.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
So again, we did get five votes.
We were prepared, we wereprepared.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Um, we were prepared, we were prepared.
Both of mine said the samething, both of yours said the
same thing.
The two people that I askeddirectly told me the exact same
thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Okay so we're going to have a winner then, because
mine split on this the two Ihave.
Okay, so our four are going tobe a winner.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Okay, so we don't need the fifth one.
I have the fifth one's answers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Well, the two you got , they tell you.
So the first gentleman Imessaged, he didn't skip a beat
home alone too, he just straightup said it okay well, both of
mine were standing next to eachother and I got one that's right
, that's right and I got one umone santa claus.
Which one said santa claus, theolder, the younger um boy, I
don't know if I remember you areso unprepared.

(01:15:58):
I have men wrote down withtheir names and everything oh,
it's such a slide I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
I'm a liar.
They said the same thing theydid.
I just look back at my notesboy, this has been a long day.
Sorry about that.
God, you're killing me.
They did, they said the samething.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Try to have a good channel.
You're right, they said.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
The same thing.
Okay, they both said SantaClaus.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
They both said Santa Claus, they both said Santa
Claus.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
I just looked back, wow, when you said why didn't I
separate them?
That's why I didn't, becausethey both said the same thing.
They both said the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
So Both of mine said Home Alone 2, both of yours did,
both of mine said Home Alone 2.
So we're going to the fifth one.
We are going.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
I thought you just said they split.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
No, I said you said they split.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Oh, you're right.
What are you talking about, man?
I don't know what I'm doing.
The cold and the long month.
I don't know what you're doing.
It's too cold out here tonight.
You're killing me, hey, youswitch sides in in the middle of
it, so I can have a mess up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Shut up, Listen.
All we do is make fun of mehere.
I'm getting sick and tired ofit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
So we're going to the fifth vote.
Somebody that works with yourwife that I've never met.
I don't know if you've ever mether.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
It's actually her boss.
Okay, I've met him a coupletimes, I don't know him very
well.
Really nice guy and that's whatwe like a tiebreaker.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Tiebreaker.
We wanted somebody that wedon't really know.
We don't know what they think.
Yeah, absolutely.
We don't want to persuade themin any way.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
But I think it's very fitting that it's coming down
to the fifth and final person ontwo that we struggled with Well
what's going to happen is,whoever this person is, he's
going to say it's your show,it's my show, I'm the one that
picked it.
Yeah, so it's his, his final,um.
So, with that being said, weare putting this to a close all

(01:17:40):
right, but it's the greatestchristmas movie, according to
not a muse podcast, which is theonly one that matters, of
course.
Yeah, who needs?
the other just listen to thisone is home alone 2.
Home alone 2.
What home alone 2 it?
And again, I could have wenteither way, as far as like, if
the other one won, would I beupset.
No, I'm the same way, but thisone, it's like, yeah, it's too

(01:18:04):
much.
It's hard not to win, yep.
So with that being said, guys,home Alone 2 is one number one.
Number two you guys were wrongPicking Home Alone 1, it is the
inferior movie.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Yeah, that's not.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
And number three again Merry Christmas.
We will actually see you guysagain next week, for New Year's
Real quick turn on your TV.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
We've got the greatest movie right here, Home
Alone 2.
Go watch it.
Go and put it on.
Go watch it.
Hey, put it on Santa Claus,where you at.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
That's good.
I'm Santa Claus, just get overit.
Merry Christmas you guys.
Merry Christmas everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
We hope to see you again next week for New Year's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
But have a happy holidays.

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