Aliens, Golf Drama, and Throwing Balls: Just Another Thursday Night

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
welcome back to the not amused podcast.
Here again with tyler and david, and we are I don't know if
it's really fortunate enough orunfortunate enough we've got
will again with us.
Um, no, really, we're happy tohave him, it's.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's always fun having will around I heard he
was a fan favorite, so we had tobring him back I told you.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think the only person that told us that was his
mom.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
I don't really know, is that who sent all those
emails.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
That's where those emails are from.
You know she created like 10different ones.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
It was my burner email account.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
It was just you sending it all like hey, you got
to have that guy back on.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
I was really good.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I mean, Will was really good.
That's.
That's exactly how that was.
I just thought that was a typo.
I didn't realize that.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, I mean it all starts to make sense when you
really step back and look at it.
So yeah, but no again.
I don't know if it's a goodthing or bad thing, but we've
got Will with us so we'll havesome fun with it.
But it's been what?
Three weeks in a row now with aguest.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Will Brian Will.
So, that's always fun.
I like having people on, butreal quick, before we get too
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(01:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:45):
So I'm very proud of myself.
You just misspelled it, butI'll let it run.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I know I've got really distracted at what's
happening over here becausewe're recording on site.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
We're out here by the fire it's actually really nice
by the fire and it's a group oflike 30 to 40 something year
olds and they're playing go fishand he got really excited over
something he just caught sothat's why it really distracted
me, so a little add in thatmoment.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Can I speak about the range for just a minute please
go ahead yeah, um only goodthings yeah, if you were to come
to the range in the next week.
Um, the closest to the pin isnot good you only say this
because you're currently winning, please you Please steer away
from it.
But thanks for bringing upclose to the pin because
currently not amused podcast issponsoring this two weeks of

(02:30):
close to the pin and I need $50more than you guys know.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
So how close are you right now?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Not that close.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm one foot 11, but it's.
It's only 120 yards.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, you better keep swinging, cause somebody's
going to say that.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I got it pretty quick , so I'm hoping to come back out
.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, so come try out Close to the pin contest.
There's no entry fee for it.
Basically, come by Basketball's, hop on to the Chop Tracer
board, register for the eventand you can join in.
It's a 120-yard shot, so it'spretty simple for most people.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
It's not, it's not gonna be like it is last day of
the month last day of the month,fifty dollars to the closest
and if you happen to get ahole-in-one, two hundred dollars
and that's every person thatmakes a hole-in-one.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
So if we have like five hole-in-ones we're gonna be
broke.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
But we're still gonna until not a user runs out of
money pretty quick, so we gottabe careful with that.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, will will be here a lot over the next couple
of weeks trying to make surethat he keeps that.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, he's going to be tracking every morning, when he
wakes up, he's going to refreshthe app and check out where I'm
at.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Just keep going and get the whole little one.
You don't have to worry aboutit Exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, because you're talking about $50.
What about $200?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
No, that is the goal.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean about 200.
No, that is the goal.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I mean you've got competition because there's a
certain someone you know will behere.
I know and I'm planning onbeing here just as much as him
and he wins.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
He's won like five of them at this point between last
year and this year and I've wontwo you've won two.
You went back to back trending.
Yeah, I'm trending in the rightdirection finally, after some
horrible golf you played a fewweeks ago, it's glad to see you
can actually get it off theground again, I know.
So that's very nice.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's the game of golf you never know what you're
going to do, especially ifyou're an amateur.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
But here's the thing David has new clubs.
We haven't talked about this.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I've hit four balls.
I know.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I was so busy, I haven't swung.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
But David's.
I was so busy I haven't swung.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
This has been a crazy busy week, so he's going to be
swinging soon, which you have tobe because we have a tournament
coming up, I know, In just acouple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
The bag's going to look good.
That's all I know.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, yeah, well, but we're bringing a particular
person with us that I alwaystell our other partner, paul,
that's going to play with us.
We're just going to keep hisclubs clean and make sure he's
hydrated because he's our wincon.
That's the guy that's going todo it for us.

(04:53):
We're looking forward toupcoming golf season.
Like I said, david, getting newclubs is a big deal because we
waited three weeks after minecame in.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Made some changes this round when I got fitted so
I'm hoping to see someimprovements Because.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I can't improve.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
So I'm hoping the clubs help me improve.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
I just want to see you be able to chip again.
Is that something you used tobe able to do and then you could
not do with your last?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
set, that last set of clubs.
Something about them.
I could not.
It just wasn't there.
It wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
But it'll come back, so is that why you lost the
wedge, because you just hated itso much somebody has.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I keep waiting to see somebody like hey, I found this
here.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's awesome.
It's going to be yours yeah,you're gonna know by the grips
it's 56 56, I think.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's a half inch short, quarter inch or something
it's got a nice grip on it.
Yeah, barely hit the groovesare like I mean, maybe I hit
something with it I didn't likeand I just threw it.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I don't, I don't remember throwing it, but you
know, maybe it was a fit of rage, and yeah, but if you did it
here, you threw it in the fieldand I would have found it, or
drove over at one.
That's a good point yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, somebody's got that in their bag, but that's
okay so, no, you're back to backto a full set.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Good to go now.
We got to get you back outthere and it's mainly because I
really got to get you on thediscussion we had before of food
at the turn at these courses.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh, I'm all about the food.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
So you can start rating them.
I'll rate the course.
You rate the food.
Will's along for the ride.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Listen, you guys play At the turn.
Just drop me off.
I'll bring out the burgers andthe dogs and I'll take care of
you on that part.
I don't know many coursesanymore that do burgers.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I feel like it's all hot dogs or sandwiches at this
point.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Because the one never existed.
I'm not getting in thatconversation.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Bill, did you ever play at Broadmoor?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I have.
I've played there a few times.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Okay, did you ever see a guy?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
grilling out on the balcony.
Grilling out on the balcony.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, see.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Did you ever eat there?
But when I went, the Region 8put on for head coaches.
They put on a big tournament,so that was a specialty, it's
different and it was like acaptain's choice tournament, and
so we went and played in it andthat's where I saw them.

(07:11):
I don't eat at golf courses,though, really no, why.
Well, one, I'm broke and two Ijust like golf to me seems like
an athletic event, and so when Iwas playing other sports at
halftime, I wouldn't just gochow down a burger, I'll bring a

(07:32):
Clif Bar or a Nutri-Grain Barand eat on it.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
So you'll snack, but you won't eat.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, I don't, Because usually when I play golf
it's weird times of day.
I'm never playing.
It's either late afternoon,between 1 and 6, or in the
morning, and those are the timesI don't eat.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
But here's the thing If you have like a 10 or a 10.30
tea time, right, which I justdon't, because it's morning
Front nine to back nine.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
switch is lunch Right but those tea times in the
morning are significantly moreexpensive than in the back nine.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
So basically what you're saying is it's all about
how you can save money andeating at a course, is not going
to save you money.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
My goal is to spend less than $50 on fast food this
year.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
This year.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, where are?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
you at so far.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm at like 12.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I spent more than that today Well it's a little
different though, individual orfamily.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I know, so you've got to really be careful even where
you pick to go.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah well, it's a little different though,
individual or family, so like I,so you gotta really be careful,
even where you pick to go.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, well, I mean, I don't have to stop at fast food
like.
I have, like you know, food athome.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
So I forget as a single man.
You have time?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I gotta say, for me it's convenient yeah, I don't
want to eat fast food.
I'm so sick of all the fastfood but I never have time.
I'm always on the go withsomething, with the kids or me
or the wife or whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, pretty much I mean there's so much in life,
it's hard to have time.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
The golf course you're missing out because I can
always find myself.
Either I can eat right before Itee off at the turn or grab
something right as I'm leaving.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
But like a Clif Bar at whole.
Nine will hold me over until 18.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
So here's my thing though Typically, if we go play
now, we make it an outing,whether it's with the range or
we like, we turn it into a afull on thing.
So if, basically, we are paying, oh then the a hundred percent.
Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
As long as it.
So.
If basically we are paying, ohthen yeah, 100%.
Okay, gotcha, as long as it'ssomeone else's card.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Cool that's all I need to know I get it.
Hey, I eat more when it'ssomeone else's card too.
I don't know about that, likewhen we went to El Chapala.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Oh, yeah, you feasted With Connor.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, you feasted I would never have gotten that ice
cream was like well, I mean allright if he's paying.
I guess I knew I was gettingone and I was like hey, bring
him to the table and that thingwas good.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
It is.
That's so.
That's how we typically do likeour business meetings.
Yeah, like it's, we will go toa restaurant because we know
it's around that point there'sno, there's not as many
distractions.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, like your food is your distraction, but you're
there and you can, but you cansit right in front of somebody
Like I said nothing going on atthe range, you're just talking
Like us four was there.
We were all at one table.
Yeah, it's much easier that way.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
That's great, yeah so we'll definitely do some of
that as we move forward, Becauseit's probably about time for a
business meeting Actually wetalked about this.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
I know what you're going to say Because we didn't
pay to have somebody put thisstuff together.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
We said we're treating ourselves to a business
meeting, probably going back tolonghorn, because that's been
the longhorn's been the bestyeah, well, our in local, our
longhorn that other one was no,yeah, but yeah.
So I don't know, maybe we'llsneak will out there with us.
Yeah, we can do that.
Treat him to a meal, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
He's a potential client or something We'll bring
him.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Investor.
I'm a potential investor, butit's going to be like 30 years
out.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
He's going to invest, we might get something out of
him later.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Sweat equity is what he's going to bring.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
He's helped a ton, as it is already Unplugging balls
out here when it was 20 degrees.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
That was the coldest night.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
That wind was howling through the first night.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I drug you out here and you're like yeah, I'll come
help.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I was like I don't think you know what you're
getting yourself into.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I had my heated jacket on and it was cranked.
I had two sweatshirts on and aski jacket.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I was definitely dressed for it.
At one point we couldn't heareach other talk closer than we
are now, because the wind wascoming through so much.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
We picked a lot of balls though.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
We did.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
There were a lot that was in January, wasn't it?
It was.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
January is usually when we have to do a lot.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
We do a lot in January, early February.
Yeah, when we have to do a lot,we do a lot January, early
February.
Yeah, yep, it's the first timewe've had that.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I know, it's surprising.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
It's authentic.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, authentic.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, sounds like we're somewhere.
You know dangerous Cops arecoming.
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
That's definitely an ambulance 100%.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
There's a different cadence to that Former cop knows
.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
There's a different cadence to that.
Somebody still got shot.
I mean, I don't care who'scoming.
Listen we have such an oldcommunity.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Someone probably fell down.
Like that's typically what'sgoing on, like the amount of
calls that they used to get forlifting assistance.
It's literally because someonefell and can't get up.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Like that is all the time.
Well, you brought it up becauseI got this question for you.
You said someone fell down.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
So we were talking last time Will was here about
skydiving.
And he's like no, no way, andwe kind of talked about it a
little more.
But I saw this question come upand it made me think about it'm
gonna get y'all's opinion.
It's nothing, nothing biggerthan sure when you skydive and
you see it all the time.
Obviously we've never done it,but why do they make you wear a

(12:52):
helmet?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
exactly you see what I'm saying, like uh, what's?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
gonna happen to you like, because it ain't gonna
help you if you hit the ground.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Here's the thing, though, as you're falling, if
something, some type of debris,anything was to come, but like,
say, something comes off of yourpack and hits you, they want
you to be protected.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I guess.
But I'm like that's kind of theleast of my worries If
something were to hit me in thehead and knock me out going down
.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
It would be doing me a favor.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
You're going to be out cold if you do that.
But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I also think this I think it's almost just to make
you feel better like I've gotsome type of protective
equipment on well, so like it'sa placebo at that, it's like the
same thing as like you go onthese cruise ships and they have
like the, the safety boats andall the life jackets.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
So the first day you go sit through this meeting with
the captain and he's like, hey,if this happens, you take the
tables out and you do this.
And here's your life jacketsand you yank on this and it's
like, yeah, 99% of these people.
You are going to have to eitherdo that for them or they're
dead, like there's nothing.
What good does anyways?

(14:06):
Exactly, just keep the mail thenight.
I mean at that point.
But if you look at most ofthose cruises go, they're not
going far from land far enough.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Far enough, they're not.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I've never been on a cruise.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I don't know that I can.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I'm the same way.
I don't know if I can.
It's fun, it is.
I've been on two.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
The one I got on.
If I had decided to do one, itwould be the one that the storm
comes up out of nowhere and thisthing's rocking and waves
hitting.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
We had a storm come through on our last one but
where we were at, you have landon both sides, so it was
actually worse, because thewater's basically bouncing off
all the land.
So you're getting shook, but atthe same time, you look this
way, you see land.
You look this way you see land.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
You look this way.
You see land like it.
I get car sick easy if I'm notdriving.
I would never make it.
That's why I drive everywhere,yeah the first cruise we went on
.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I was a kid, so I mean I was 12 ish, but we had
smooth.
Like you didn't even know youwere on a boat, like it felt
like you were just in a hotel,yeah, like there was no motion,
no, nothing.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I could handle that if it was guaranteed, but that's
never yeah, of course you can'tguarantee that didn't you and
in your family go on a uhfishing boat or something and
somebody got sick or tookmedicine or something?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
no, so we were actually on a mission trip in
mexico and we did a whole thingthroughout the week, and then
your last day, they basicallyall were just like hey, this is
a free day, let's hang out, kindof enjoy where you're at, and
so this was friday.
We fly out saturday friday uh, Idon't know, I was maybe 16 or
17 and dad was there.

(15:35):
He was kind of leading thewhole trip and he's like, hey, I
got us a fishing expedition,like a deep sea, like deep sea
fishing, and he's like, but Idon't know how most people are
gonna react, so you at leasthave to take half a dream of me.
We took an eight hour nap on aboat.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Like nobody caught fish.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Like we had one on.
It was a huge Marlin Dad jumpsin the chair, it jumps, spits
the hook.
It's the only thing we had allday.
We literally I.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I fell asleep, kind of laid back, so because of the
medicine.
Well, yeah, knock you out.
Yeah, which for me, like I,should have never took it.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I only did because dad warned me to.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
But knowing I shouldn't have taken it because
I never, I'd never have an issuewith that, like I don't get
motion sick.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I don't have anything like that, so I can.
I would have been fine but atthat point, looking back, I'd
have been the only person awakeon a boat and I don't speak what
the captain and his, his crewspeaks, so I'm like I just been
hanging out I think we talkedabout this two weeks ago, but I
don't.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I don't do beaches, I don't like the ocean.
The lake's okay, but I justdon't do what is it?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
okay, I just say so the lake's okay yeah, so it's
not that you can't see in thewater.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Then no, it's not that so what is so?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
because here's the thing, I'm with you.
I hate the ocean, absolutelyhate it.
I'll go swim in a lake all daylong.
Yeah, could care less aboutthat yeah, me too I'll get in
both.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I do think about it more in the ocean yeah, well, I
feel like the ocean is like I'mnot in control, yeah, we know,
we know nothing about it.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
But you really think you're in control in the lake.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Okay, current.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I guess I'm thinking more.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
But not even that.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Creatures.
Give me a lake local.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, snake's the only thing I'd worry about.
Yeah, we have nothing.
I get that Like in the ocean.
It's like if there's so manythings and it's so big.
There's so many things.
People die out there all thetime.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Literally all the time.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
I feel like I can control my environment at a lake
on a boat or a ski jet, I getthe point, my wife.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
She won't get in a lake or nothing, because she
knows there's stuff in there andshe can't see it.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's the thing.
If you are locally in a lake,literally your only thing is a
snake Right.
There's nothing else in ourlake.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
It's not necessarily the creatures that get you, it's
just all the other nastinessthat's in there.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Like rivers.
I'm good I can get in any river.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, that's moving water, though too.
It stays so much cleaner Most.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
I'll say most, I'll say rivers around here, local
rivers.
Here We've got some pretty goodones.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
There's one in particular that's not great, but
some of the others arefantastic.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Well, if you get above the fish hatchery then
you're fine.
Yes, from the fish hatchery totown.
It's a little gross.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
You get down below that it can get a little gross,
but yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Or if you're in the Davidson gross, you know it's
shut down right now.
Did you know that?

Speaker 1 (18:29):
uh, I had heard that yeah from the flood and
everything.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, I knew they took a lot of damage up there.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
It took a ton we were there today, which is crazy to
think that there was flooddamage that high.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
yeah, well, which I mean you really talk about all
of western end of the state thatgot hammered, it's all high
elevation.
They got destroyed.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
We were up just two days ago.
We were up way past the fishhatchery, like deep into
Episcopio, yeah, and you canjust see all the trees down.
Like it's unbelievable, likethe trails have just like had to
be remade Right, like machineshave had to come in.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
We've talked about that a little bit on here, but
the effects that you still see.
You know this.
What are we six months afternow?
Or something?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, I mean that was end of September.
Yeah, there was still a lot.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
I think it was the most traumatic thing I've been
in.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I would say it's the most like.
Not that anything happened tome, but like.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
No, but I mean, you got to think about the people
that you're around, Like youknow, people that were directly
affected.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean it was here in.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Brevard, like we weren't affected the same.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
So I didn't even lose it.
We know people directlyaffected, but it was odd that
next morning getting up and likeno cell service, you can't get
a hold of anybody.
Yeah, you come through town.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
There's no electric, all lights out.
I mean just kind of no internet, no cell service, no that was
what was?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
I mean?
Just difficult, my parentsbeing in horseshoe right, and
that's not that far away.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
No, it was 30 minutes , 45 minutes and couldn't really
get there.
I couldn't get there.
We, like, I tried to drivethere, like, and you couldn't
even get within 10 miles fromwhere I'm at.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
There wasn't really.
There was one tree across theroad.
Somebody had already cut beforeI got there.
I could go about anywhere frommy house to town Once you start
to get some of the outskirtseven back towards your way there
are so many trees down?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm basically just off the main road and there are
just trees everywhere.
You couldn't get anywhere.
Well, but I mean again, likeyou said, we didn't get the hard
stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
No, no, no, I'm not sitting here saying we were
super affected, but even here atthe range, the amount we got
hit by like.
I can't imagine some of theswan and oa and all that.
I feel like it impacted us allin some way, shape or form, Like
yeah, well there's, there's alot of people just like mentally
storm itself Like it was justhard to hear people talk and I

(20:50):
the.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
you hear the wind go by and they're like looking out
the window.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, you just start to question it.
And then we had that really badbut there's so many people that
haven't been through really Imean honestly anything in their
life that was difficult, so thenthat's the first thing they've
dealt with and they went like aweek with no self-service, like
you had to go to Etowah at onepoint to get anything, or well
even river, you know a mile orless from us.

(21:14):
They're still tearing downmobile homes and houses yeah, so
there's one just up the roadhere.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
They finally finished clearing the last house of and
I mean it's so weird because, Imean I've in my previous job I'd
visited those places, and nowit's just flat there's nothing
there, well, and that's like Iwas in nashville a couple weeks
ago for a meeting and there'sstill like cars turned over in
rivers oh, there's so, there'sso much stuff they didn't even
touch.
No, like it looks like it justhappened.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, yeah, six months yeah, if somebody's not
been here and they just heardabout it, saw it on the news,
they probably done forgot aboutit.
I think it's all better now.
It is not.
Oh, it's 100% not, no, too badwell, but that's I mean.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Even some of our friends just back in kentucky
and they're talking about itlike, hey, how bad is it?
Because the news is not reallygiving us the full the full
breakdown because, I meanhonestly, the news wasn't really
working.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
No, he couldn't even get out here.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
We had local radio stations that were just like hey
, if you can call us, we'll letother people know you're okay.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
It was bad enough to where the president was flying
over.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, we actually got to see him fly from here.
It was pretty cool, that was aprevious administration, but
they had apparently flew intoRaleigh and then him and the
governor, because we saw himcoming through formation and I
was like we see a lot ofmilitary stuff.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
That one's different.
We know who that one is.
We can really get into themilitary stuff we see in Brevard
, North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
If you guys want to go into that.
So the stuff that we know about, right, because there are so
many things that they're doinghere.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
That is outrageous.
I don't know if Tyler remembersthis.
It's probably been maybe a yearago.
I show up out here one nightand I said, hey, I just saw
something over here and I don'tknow what it was.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I know exactly where you're going with this, because
I've, I've and he.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
He actually got in and went down to see if it was
still there.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
I followed it, did you?
I couldn't catch it.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
It was gone.
It was moving so fast.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
I thought it was a helicopter, but it was these big
bright lights and it was prettylow and I roll my window down
and I'm getting closer andcloser to it and I hear nothing.
It has no sound whatsoever andit's just gone.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
But do you know?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
what that sounds like too, what exactly what was
happening in new jersey formonths?
It could have been like andagain, I don't think you're a
alien person, I'm not at all,but and again, to me that's all
it's some type of whether it'slockheed creating something new,
or government that has somekind of technology, like, but
there are so many things thatget tested in our area because
it's just like afghanistan, iraq, I mean, it's the same terrain,
our mountain, specificallynorth carolina, west carolina

(23:53):
mountains, is the exact terrain,yeah, of which is crazy to
think, at least um now, do youever come across some mountain
biking and stuff in the forestand well, we see like government
vehicles driving up the parkwaytowards like perry, but
but here's the thing.
Think about this how manytrails you've been on, you don't
know they're there.
That's true, because I knowsome of these guys from all my

(24:16):
previous stuff.
I know that they're like ohyeah, we're here all the time.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
They've way out in the woods and people have no
clue.
They They've probably heard mecrash.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Should we?

Speaker 1 (24:27):
check on him.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Nah, he's okay, they can't know we're here.
And just a couple weeks ago wewere at the ball field late,
yeah, and I think we had justgotten back from a away game.
Me and Dad were standing up toptowards the press box, talking
and coming from I guess it wouldbe rosman area like this low
flying with lights.
It was low flying and we'relike it's a helicopter right,

(24:53):
but it was silent that soundsexactly like what I saw came
like right over us.
You could see like the metal ofthe like.
It was that low and it didn'tmake a sound, like there was no
sound and it was like am I?
I guess this isn't you startwondering at that point like
something wrong, like can I?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
hear right now like what's actually right, because I
should be able to hear when Iroll my window down.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I was like, oh, it's a helicopter and I was like no,
it's not, there's no sound, butit was like bigger than a drone,
like much bigger than like whata drone would be.
This thing was massive.
It was like a huge helicopter,well, so here's the thing we're
episode 21, 22, something likethat, something strange.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
And we've never talked about what I previously
did and we'll let it sliptonight, I know.
And I thought it was hilariousbecause we've never once talked
about it, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, it thought it was hilarious because we've never
once talked about it oh, itdoesn't matter and it's no, it's
okay.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Like I'm not, I mean, I say that like it matters to
me, it's no.
So there was a cia, come for mebecause I don't have that kind
of knowledge.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Uh, so I did 10 years of law enforcement locally and
it's funny like you talk aboutdrones and stuff, because like
we've messed with a lot ofdrones I have a personal one,
like I like to fly and stufflike that and like down towards
where David lives, we used toget calls all the time there's
something over my house, there'slights like kind of similar
like what you're talking to,usually not as close that they

(26:17):
were seeing it.
Yeah, so I got the bright ideaone night, two o'clock in the
morning, we get one of thosecalls.
I go down there and I'm likeall right, I see something
flying, like I could see it, mycar could go pretty quick.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah, I never caught it.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
It pulled away from me.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
I mean, I'm talking like yes, we've had this
discussion.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I'm like I was going rather quick, thinking like, all
right, there is something,let's see what I can find.
It could never catch it andit's just like that's some cool
technology.
Okay, so do we for you to beable to do that?
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
So all these stories we have here in this area, right
?
Is it like?
What is our hypothesis Like?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
what do we go as it's coming from the department of
defense area.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Like is it coming from that old I think so
Military research Institutethat's up there?

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Like is that where it's coming?

Speaker 3 (27:08):
from Because.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
I think it's a mix.
I think it's a mix, though Ithink there's a lot that comes
from there, but I think there'sa lot that comes out of South
Carolina at some of those spotsthat they they fly from that you
know what I'm talking about.
I think there's some of thosethat they just fly up the
mountain because it's easy.
Yeah, so they come up here forit.
But yeah, I think there's a lotthat happens at that old

(27:32):
research facility that they'relike oh, that was shut down many
years ago, it's definitely not.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
They're like, yeah, that's no longer a government
site, it's all declassified,it's all it has to be like
operational, because why wouldthere still be blacked out SUVs
flying through Brevard all thetime, like going up that way?

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Why is there still sections they won't let you go
to, exactly?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Cause they do.
They do tours up there now Iknow they allow people in
certain parts of the buildingsbut not all.
But there's big sections thatare like oh yeah, we it go that
way.
It's like a 300 plus acre.
It's huge.
Yeah, yeah, there's no way,yeah, and so for I guess like
background.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
It was department of defense used to be in the cold
war.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yeah, and it was one of two bases in the world that
tracked information from russiaduring the cold war, and it was
in rosman brevard, northcarolina, and then in argentina
which is one of those likecompletely random things like
why did we house that?
And then argentina was, whichis one of those completely
random things Like why did wehouse that?
And then Argentina was theother one.
And those are the only twoplaces that tracked information
from Russia.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
And again, that's not speculation, that is a known
thing.
They have declassified that andsaid yeah, that's what we were
doing there.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
So I think clearly it's all military stuff we're
seeing.
Does anybody believe it'ssomething more?

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I have a theory.
There's a ton of people,there's a ton of people that
believe something more.
I mean between us here doesanybody think it's so?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
the stuff that I've seen here locally, the stuff
that I've dealt with locally tome feels government-related.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, that's what I feel too.
That's what I feel.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Now Will's got a thought here.
I want to see where this goes.
Everyone knows that Nevada ishome to Area 51.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Okay, before you really get into that, I want to
know what do you think Area 51is?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Well, okay, historically, we are producing
technology for the next 20 years, correct?
And so, like in the obamaadministration, we had, like
those fighter jets that came outin 2013.
Those were actually created inlike the early 2000s, in area 51

(29:35):
.
So what area 51 is is liketechnology-based, like
government-funded, like justscientists coming together and
all they're doing is liketesting these things to try to
get our military like to ahigher level technology wise and
so so that's not aliens, it'snot no, no, no it's technology
correct and so my theory is, andI think they do some nuclear

(29:57):
testing too with weapons andstuff like that.
But it's almost like the perfectcover because, everyone thinks
it's in Nevada.
My theory and this is like it'sthe Death Star.
I think that, and actually awoman wrote a book on it.

(30:17):
I need to go back and find itthat Area 51 is actually in
Brevard.
Okay, that's a jump, but okaythat perry is home to the
technology and to the nucleartesting, because she said in
this book she's gone up thereand she has found nuclear

(30:38):
readings in our mountains, right, um, that there has been
multiple eyewitness accounts tonuclear testing and that there
is actually a presidentialbunker in Western North Carolina
to where, if we were ever in anuclear fallout, the president
isn't going anywhere but toWestern North Carolina.
And think about all the timesthat we've been like close to

(31:05):
like, when DEFCON's been lessthan three than three, right,
which was a lot.
During the iraqi war, correct?
Where was obama?
Especially early, early stuff.
Where was obama?
He was here, it's true.
Think about how many times hewas in nashville area he visited
a lot there, a lot think abouthow many times trump's come here
?

Speaker 1 (31:20):
yeah, well, specifically the lake Docksway
area.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Exactly which is right down the road, right down
the road.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
So I think that there is more to it than what we know
.
Actually, I'm almost 100%positive there is.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
But do you think there's any alien aspect to it,
or it's just all technology?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Aliens in my mind is so beyond this world.
I don't even want to comprehendif aliens are real or not.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, I'm with you?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I don't think so.
I hope not.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I think there could be something.
I mean, there's so much outthere.
It could be.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
But do we know that there's actually that much out
there?
Because that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
That's the thing, we don't know our own planet, we
don't off planet.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Because we definitely didn't go to the moon,
absolutely.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I agree.
Ask the people on.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Facebook, though They'll tell you otherwise.
They go into this wholeargument of this is how we did
it.
It's like alright, then let'sdo it again.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Why haven't we gone back?
That's my biggest argument.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
According to NASA, we learned everything we needed to
know the first time.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Which has never been how science works in the history
of science, yeah, which hasnever been how science works.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
In the history of science In the late 90s, we
learned everything you keepstudying over and, over and over
, because you're going to findsomething new.
It's just the way it works and,like space, okay.
When we landed on the moon, howwere we able to transmit a live
satellite feed that y'allwatched in class?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Not y'all.
I ain't that old.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I forget, you guys are not that old.
We are nowhere near that old.
Okay, I watched 9-11 live.
I did watch 9-11.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
As a kid I didn't watch the moon land.
That's a whole other thing.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
That would have been my.
That was Now.
I've actually I've asked momabout it.
He remembers that being on TV.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
How, listen, I can't get cell service in part of this
county right now.
You're telling me that from themoon.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
We can get live television feed.
Come on.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
I don't know who set the camera up before they landed
.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Then there's the people that are like, well, we
actually went, but the video wasstaged.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I'm like, if you're getting to that point, you're
just wanting to believe whatthey tell you, but think about
where we were as a countryduring that time.
We had to go because we're inthe space race.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
In the Cold War we had to beat Russia and China to
the moon.
But we had the bestcinematography at the time
Exactly, we were light yearsabove everybody else when it
came to that, and there's theorythat we actually didn't make
the nuclear weapon when we saidwe did.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I don't think we did that time.
I think all that staged.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I don't think we've ever sent people.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
You don't think we've ever sent people back.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Not a shot.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I don't think so either.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Think about Apollo.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
No.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
All those teachers just died, yeah, like boom, well
, but they make this whole bigthing of well, we just lost the
technology.
Yeah, that's not how technologyworks.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
No.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Once we figure out something, we figure out a
hundred things after Not in our,I guess, lifetime, or even
before our parents' lifetime,grandparents' lifetime.
I could see you losing ancientstuff.
But now the way we keep recordsand the way we do everything
Don't get me into ancienttechnology.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
No, we can't go down that road we may get into the
Watchers and that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
We don't have time for that tonight.
I don't want to get you intothat.
Gosh man, that's its own secondpodcast.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
That's a deep world.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Very deep world Space to me.
I don't think we've reallysearched as much.
Think about how many times Muskhas tried to launch rockets
into space and they've justcollapsed.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's the thing he's sent.
He sent rockets.
We've sent technology out.
I don't necessarily think thatwe haven't done that.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
So sending the, like, the, the Mars Rover?
Do you think it's real on Mars?

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I don't know.
Okay, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
I.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I don't, I don't think so.
Like all these times you'relike oh, we've got pictures from
Jupiter Again.
We have satellites that areworking that well, but, like you
said, we can't get cell phonecoverage because the roof on my
house is wrong.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I don't know.
I mean, I think you can get atelescope and look at stuff,
especially high-powered ones,and see there's something out
there, but that's from whetheror not we can get to it I say
that's the thing that's fromhere.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying Ithink we can.
We can kind of say there'ssomething out there, but as far
as getting to it, well, evenlike the global space station,
isn't out of the earth'satmosphere no, no, it's still in
the atmosphere yeah they sayit's in space, it's the space

(35:43):
station, but the thing about itthey said, the international
space station is gonna fall likein a few years.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Like it's slowly already coming back.
So that's not actually spacethen?
Because it would be, it wouldhave its own orbit at that point
.
So, yeah, very, very different.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
I think we're definitely just going to have to
do like specials of all theseconspiracy things.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Oh, I think so too, don't get me going.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
We could spend a lot of time on a lot of different
conspiracies.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Oh, 100% Just.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Well, because the thing is like you have the whole
conspiracy itself, you haveyour belief on it and then the
other opinions, like that justkeep going.
Well, but real quick.
Going back to, like you said,local could be Area 51.
My thought on it is so oneLockheed Martinin, one of the

(36:36):
biggest aeronautics companies inthe world.
They have said on multipleoccasions we don't tell anybody
what we're working on, becauseonce you tell the government,
they want it in five years yeahlike if we say, hey, we have
this, they want it 100 fullyoperational, like we want a
thousand in five years, andthey're like that's not how it
works.
So, yes, they work on stuff for25, 30 years.
So the stuff that they've hadfor since early two, thousands

(36:59):
that we're just now seeing,that's what kind of blows.
My mind is like they've hadthat technology since we were
kids, yeah, and it still looksthat crazy today.
That's what's nuts.
But I also think, going back toNevada, area 51, perry, all
these things, I think there's somany of those stations that we
just don't know about.
I agree with that there's somany spots that you could hide

(37:21):
that stuff, the same way thatthey supposedly hide nuclear
missiles across the entirecountry.
There's so many ways to hidethat stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
It's probably better that way.
Normal population doesn't needto know I have to stuff going on
.
I 100% agree.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
We can't handle it there are things we should not
know I agree.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
I just want so badly for it to be here, but I do want
to know.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Like we should know things, but I want to know yeah.
I know.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, but doesn't that put you know other
countries got to know?
Yeah, but I say no, though,because you look how big this
area is like this set ofmountain ranges.
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I agree because I mean, you think about all the
bombing they've done inafghanistan, like they don't
know half the time if they'rejust buying land or if they're
actually bombing something well,when my life's over, I'm gonna
have a few questions regardingwhat's going on there, because I
just want to know, please justtell me well, I don't want to
change here too much, okay, butI do have something that we

(38:17):
haven't talked about, and it'snot a conspiracy theory okay
duke did not make it to thechampionship game but will's
gonna say I didn't think theywould I kept saying they weren't
going to keep saying that hedid, that was a fallacy.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
That's just because he wanted to believe otherwise.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Or was it a conspiracy that they didn't make
it, because, I mean, there wasa fallacy in the game that that
was a bad call, I think we'vebeen saying, for I mean, we've
talked about it for months.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
The officiating has been pretty terrible Every level
.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, the first half of that game was really physical
, because Houston plays a reallyphysical style of defense and
Duke, I thought, handled itreally well.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
But then again, not to get away from that game, go
to the championship game.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, it was unreal First half there was four fouls
in the entire half.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
And then the second half.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
it's like the second half there was 25.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
So, as a coach, how do you scheme at half?

Speaker 1 (39:09):
you don't, you can't, you can't because if you scheme
for, oh, we're gonna playphysical cool, which I prefer,
that, I like that style better,but then you go to every little
tic-tac file in the second half,what are?

Speaker 2 (39:21):
you supposed to do?
You?
You go in halftime of thatchampionship game and you're
telling your players all right,they're gonna call it physical.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
You gotta man up, let's go and you step out next
half, and it's different.
And that's just like a gamble,because, in the event, what if
they didn't?
What?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
if they just decided not to.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
And like I still think Duke had the best team in
the tournament, probably so Ibelieve that they were the most
talented.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
They were a very good team.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I thought they were the most well coached, that's
what I and that's March MadnessI can say I love the tournament,
but most of the time the bestteam does not win.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I'm just going to go ahead and say it I don't love
March Madness why?
I think it's just the baseballin me.
I believe that there should bethe true winner.
The best team should always win.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I've said that I want a series or something.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I think there should be a series you look at every
type of playoff scenario, evenbaseball, we have seen it.
Teams that make runs.
If you get hot at the righttime, it doesn't mean you were
the best team all year.
No, I do agree with thatBecause, honestly, most of the
time in baseball the team thathas the best record does not win
.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
And I believe across the board, single elimination
tournaments shouldn't be a thing.
I think that North Carolina'shigh school playoff is, I think,
really bad For baseball.
Yeah, because it should be twoout of three.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Single elimination baseball is very tough, oh for
sure, in baseball.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
It's really hard.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I don't like it in any sport, even football, which
that's.
I don't know how you would,even I was going to say- you
play a series in football.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
But, baseball for sure.
You're adding a whole otherseason at that point for a sport
like that.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
For all the other sports they play so much as it
is.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
It's a little different.
I, most other states have movedto the series.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
At least two out of three.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
At the beginning.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
yeah, I do agree that the best team can still lose
out, even in a series, but theyhave a better shot of getting
the best team the champion.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Because, when it comes to Final Four, I don't
want to see 12 seeds St Mary'splay number one over all of
Florida.
I don't want to see that Iagree.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
But here's the thing, though this year we did it.
This year was the second timeever we've seen all four number
ones.
It was great.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Because of that.
I thought the hype around itwas better.
I don't want to see theCinderella that just finally
pokes through the tunnel.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I'm okay the first or second round.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
But when it gets to the Elite Eight, I want it to be
the best Even.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Final Four, though If I see your lowest seed, that's
there.
You've got a two and a threethat make it.
I'm like, all right, these guysare really good.
Like you said, it wasn't a nine.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I'm okay, even probably top five seed.
I can see a five and still feelokay, I think.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
But after that, if there's four or five seeds,
you're still seeing a top 20team, exactly.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
A top 20 team.
I'm okay with that.
I get that.
I like the tournament.
I think what I like about it isjust all the games so much
action.
I don't love the competition somuch, like from what you're
saying.
And then this year we did seefour number ones go and, like we
said, I feel like the officialsruined it.
We could have had some reallygood games.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
I think the officiating across the whole
tournament was bad.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
I don't think it's just basketball, though I think
it's every sport right now butagain, I think baseball's in
good place Baseball umps are notgood right now.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
There's a lot of calls that are getting.
Just in the past two weeksthey're challenging every call.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Well so the pitch challenge isn't happening yet.
Like that's minor league.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
That's coming, it.
It's coming to the pros.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
And I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
I don't think there's a way it doesn't at this point,
Cause every other league hassomething to the equivalent.
I think they're going to.
But just in the past two weeks,like we've had supposedly good
officials missing 10, 15, 20calls a game.
It's like all right, that's abit too much.
We've got to do better asofficiating groups.

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But in other sports notcounting baseball, because
baseball it's a little morestagnant, they have lines of
sight.
It's very much more still.
Other sports athletes havenever been as athletic as they
are now.
We said it a few weeks ago, I'mto the point, just to add more
officials, the game's too fast.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
That doesn't mean I want more calls.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
It means, I just want more eyes.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Okay, so let's take basketball, for instance.
Would it help to haveex-basketball players
officiating that game?

Speaker 3 (43:47):
No.
Because they're athletic theyofficiating that game no no
because they're athletic.
They're gonna keep up.
They know the game.
Most of those guys don't reallyknow the rules.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
They're gonna think as a player, I believe, and I
wouldn't want that call, so I'mnot gonna call it.
Yeah, it becomes opinionatedand not actually by the book.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I would never make a good official.
I've said that numerous times.
I want to pick a side, I wantto be on a side.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
I want to win or lose it's all about flow too, right
and so?
And basketball, like, if thegame is moving in a good pace,
you can get away with notcalling something at the front
of the rim Correct, just becausethe game is moving at such a
high pace, like you don't wantto ruin the flow of it.
That is like officiating.

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That's the human nature that Ireally enjoy, especially in
baseball.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Well see, there's some that would say foul's a
foul, it doesn't matter the flow, If it's a foul you should call
it regardless.
But you're okay with kind ofletting little things go if it's
helping the game.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
I enjoy the human nature part of officiating.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
But my take on the whole officiating, especially
thinking basketball, well,really basketball and football
are the two things you see itthe most because it is so quick
nowadays the guys are way faster, way stronger, doing way more
things than they ever have.
Just period.
I don't think anyone isquestioning that.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
If you are questioning, that you're not
watching the same thing, I think.
Intelligence, Well yeah, thegame.
Iq is way higher.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
I mean, I even think that's coming from coaches.
I think coaches, the chess gamewas way, way higher, yeah, and
I mean I even think that'scoming from coaches.
I think coaches have becomesmarter.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
They're understanding the game the ins and outs, what
they can and can't get in with,right to the edge of the rule
as close as possible Correct.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
But I think again I'll go back to basketball,
cause that's what I know thebest, personally.
These guys are like we said,the national championship game
you can't go.
Four calls, one half 25 thenext.
I'm not saying we should onlysee eight, that we should just
double it, because you're goingto get some more things,
especially as it gets close.

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Late game you're going to getsome fouls, it's going to happen
, but they're just not.
It almost doesn't feel likethey are the one making the
calls.
It feels like someone else issaying, hey, we need this to be
adjusted, we need this.
It feels like outside forcesare controlling what the game
should actually be so, like inthe championship game?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
do you think halftime they go in or talking with
somebody else saying, hey, youonly called five fouls, you've
got to fix this second half.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
But to me I'd say, go back and look, what did I miss?
Did I did I miss things thatyou think should be called?

Speaker 2 (46:16):
in that game.
What do you think happened?
Did they?
Was there a lot of fouls?
The first half they could havecalled, or they just ticky-tack
everything I think it wasphysical.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
But I mean by definition.
A foul is gaining an advantage.
Physical doesn't mean you'vegained an advantage, that just
means like there's more contact.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
I think both could have been somewhere in the
middle.
I think there should have beena few more fouls in the first
half, maybe a few less in thesecond half.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I have to go back and watch because it's hard to sit
here and say, well, yeah, youshould just call more fouls,
because then it just goes intothe whole thing of then.
Are we calling them just tocall them Like, yes, the rules
are the rules?
I get that and I think andagain I'm with Will I still like
the human error of it, likeyou're still going to make some
mistakes, but when we're makingmistakes and we've seen games

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like close to 50 fouls, no, likeyou can't even have a flow of a
game.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I'm okay with the error.
They're not going to be perfect, but if they see a foul, a foul
is a foul.
I don't care when it is in thegame, I don't care what's going
on.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
They're going to miss some.
But if they see it call it,then you get to the NBA and it's
not a foul unless they miss theshot.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Because you see it, nba, though, they can take 20
steps.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
The gather is ruining basketball.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
I know Will doesn't agree with that.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Me and Will have this conversation.
I know where he goes on that,but they're to the point of like
, if you have a live dribble, dowhatever you want.
Do whatever you want into agather.
If your gather takes five steps, it's, I'm gonna say you're
seeing like five steps.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Sometimes it's just I don't get it but not even that
there.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
There's so much in the NBA that if you would just
call it those guys, they'll playthat way.
They don't care, they can playanyway.
If you tell those guys, hey,you're only allowed one step and
we're going to call it, thoseguys are that good, they can do
it.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
So it's not the players that have ruined the
modern game, it's theofficiating that's ruined the
modern game.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
No, it's the commissioner.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
I was going to say I don't know that, I put it on the
players.
The players are playing.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I think he has ruined the.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
NBA.
Nope, nope nope, nope, awful,so you're a fan of the
commissioner.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Yeah, I think he's awesome.
Okay, go Duke.
That's why, that's why he's aDuke grad.
The.
All-star game has never beenworse the game is bad and that's
an Adam Silver.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
He's admitted that, yes but he's the one that keeps
making the changes, and hedoesn't know how to make the
changes.
It needs to come out of hishands.
He needs somebody else, butwith your comment about the
players.
He's also let the players runthe league.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
The players are only playing by the rules.
It's kind of like with kidsthey say they'll do whatever you
let them get by with.
That's kind of what the playersare doing.
If you tighten that up, theywould still play that way.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Those guys could play, nomatter what rules you put there.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
They'll play that way .
They don't care.
But I don't want to see abasketball game of Bill Lambert
clotheslining someone throughthe lane.
To me that's not basketball.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
No, so I'm not saying that we go back to that point,
I just think I want to see anactual screen set, like the pick
and roll game in nba is awful,because every, every person that
sets a screen, you either aregrabbing the guy or you run with

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him for 20 feet it's like well,that's not a screen.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
At that point well, most screens are moving screens.
Anyway, that's what I'm sayinglike, and that's that to me.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
That's not a screen at that point.
Well, most screens are movingscreens anyway.
That's what I'm saying.
And that, to me, is I'm nottalking about changing the game
huge, I'm just like I just wantto enforce the rules.
That's all I'm asking.
It's not even the fact ofenforcing the rules.
It's like that's not even partof basketball at that point.
Not even going on rules orfouls.
You're now just moving a guyout, Like this isn't an

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offensive line, Like that's nothow it works, but that's what's
happening and it's every singlenight, but that's happening in
college too.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I'm going to say the NBA is the worst.
College is getting that way too.
But I think it's a lot ofsports like we talked about are
seeing stuff like this happenand I don't know if they're
trying to get more excitement.
Are you seeing that in baseball?
Obviously they try to get morescoring right.
It's more exciting if you scoremore.
Are you seeing kind of bend therules a little bit to help that
?

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Not really.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
It's not the same that you're seeing in other
sports.
I think it's harder to do inbaseball too though.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Because a lot of to say back because it's always
been here, but making anotherpush and, tyler, you made the
comment the other day aboutseeing a lot of it in youtube
and things like that that'sreally helping drive it.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Well, I so again.
I'm big into golf and golf isnever going to be inside the top
, the big four, like we knowthis.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I feel like golf is in the best place has been.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
It's ever been.
It's good it's it is bigger nowthan it was in the tiger boom.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
It just, it just is.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
But what I've started to see is, like David just
mentioned, YouTube-wise YouTube.
Golf has been so big for thesport there are now so many
baseball content creatorsfollowing the same thing.
Golf has been doing Exactly andit's pushed really, really big
and started to get really big inthe youth again, which, again,

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you make it big in the youth, itgets big in the adults.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
We're seeing it local Like youth baseball and
softball here in the area hasgrown like crazy.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
It's the biggest it's ever been.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
So the kids are getting involved and they're now
going to games and they'reexcited and they're watching TV,
and that's where it starts.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yeah, our games have never been as packed as they've
been this year.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah, it just keeps growing and growing, mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
How are you Good man?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
How's it going?
You always get the few thatjust want to come see what's
going on.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Give him a mic, bring him on.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I don't think you want that one to have a mic Just
being honest, he ain't that faraway right now, just so you
know.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I know I'd tell him that.
I've known him, my whole life.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Like I said, I didn't know who it was.
I've known him, my whole life.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
There's some people that just don't need a mic in
front of them All right.
So I'm going to change topicsto get on it because I got some
notes, I got to talk here.
You got some things.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
I'm good with it, dion.
What is Deion doing?
Have you seen the latest?

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Deion's always doing something.
What are we upset about now?

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Wait, do we not like Deion?
Is this a podcast that does notlike Deion?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
So I love Deion as a player.
I'm not sure I'm a coach.
I don't like some of his antics.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
I think he is the truth.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Okay, well, that's funny I know exactly where
Will's going with this.
Okay, going with us, um, okay,but okay, so real quick.
We've talked about dion a fewtimes.
I think a few of the thingshe's doing now is a little
annoying in the fact of retiringjerseys.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
That's what I'm talking about is a little, it
feels a little excessive okay,his son and travis hunter played
last year.
Yeah, now what?
Who Hunter won the Heismanright?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
So, hunter, I don't really argue as much.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
But not the year after no.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
So the timing, I don't think is right.
I think it's too soon.
His son is way too soon toretire a jersey.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yeah, so that's what I'm talking about.
He's retiring his son, shredderSanders, and Travis Hunter's
jersey they just played lastyear.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
They haven't even been drafted yet and they're
already getting there.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
They had a decent season.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Are they not the two best players to ever come
through Colorado, though?

Speaker 1 (53:44):
So, but to me, if you're going to retire a jersey,
it's got to be a few years downthe road.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
I was going to say it can't be a thing.
But I think for anybody.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I don't even think it's talking about just those
guys.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I think for anyone you just give time Timing aside,
they are the number one andnumber two players to ever play
at that university.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Is that the best records and best they've ever
done.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
They didn't have a very good record last year
overall.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Eight and four.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I mean not like crazy , but okay, Eight and four is
right, I think.
For example, if I have a highschool pitcher who breaks every
pitching record in our highschool and we're 500, his jersey
is getting retired.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Are you going to give it some time or are you okay
with that?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Again, hunter, I don't argue, I'm honestly saying
Hunter because of thestatistics.
I don't argue Now.
I don't think Hunter deservedthe Heisman personally.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
I do.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
I don't think he was the best.
He was not the best receiver inthe country, he wasn't the best
corner in the country, butbecause he played both.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I think it hurt him playing both he needed.
If he was at one of those twopositions he might so the thing
is for what he does.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
It put him on the map to play both.
Like media-wise.
It was way better for him toplay both because it's visible,
like you are always visible.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
We've only seen like two players ever be able to play
both sides Correct, Correct, no, no, no and he was good at both
.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
He was good at both.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Good at both, but he was not great at both.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
There's a gazillion players that could have been
great at both, but picked one.
Either they picked it or thecoach wanted to do it.
Whatever, except most of thetime, it comes down to coaching.
Most of these athletes can dothat, which I do get that,
though, so that's what I get it.
So that's hard for me to say,because all of these athletes,
most of these athletes I onlysaw most of these athletes could
, could do that and be very goodat two positions, both sides of

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the ball.
They just choose not to.
So for me, that part is noteven in the conversation.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
So I mean personally, I think he's a way better
corner than he is a receiver.
I think that Receiver-wise,statistically, he didn't have
great numbers Like maybe withinthe top 10 of across wide
receivers.
So to me it's hard to say, well, he's the best this and he's
the best this, because that'sthe narrative.

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Push Again.
Am I saying he's a bad player?
Absolutely not.
He's a fantastic player, he's agreat player.
He's going to get drafted highand should, because he's a freak
athlete.
I think he's going to be a goodpro.
I think he is too.
I just don't think in the NFLyou should play both sides.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
I was going to say which position Is he going to
try to play, both in the NFL?

Speaker 1 (56:13):
He just came out the other day and said if I don't
play both, I don't play.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Really.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yeah, he's like I'm playing both or I won't play.
So far, the only team that'sagreed to it is the Giants.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I don't think you can do that in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
It's a different speed he's going to benefit to
play corner in the NFL.
I don't think he has a sizeplay receiver in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Well, I mean, look at where the NFL is, though All
they do is run five-yard outs.
Oh yeah, yeah, he can do that,but physically on the offensive
side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I think he'll struggle To do the five-yard out
or a five-yard in which is allthey do is ins and outs, but
he's not coming across themiddle against NFL linebackers,
Unless you know he does decideto he got hurt against Colorado
State.
Those guys don't even hit.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
But what if he just takes his conditioning and all
that super serious.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
But I think frame-wise I don't think he can
put on that size and play bothsides like he wants to.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
We'll see I mean, if I'm coach, owner, NFL, there's
no way I'm doing it.
I'm paying you all this moneyand I'm putting you at risk your
health to get injured.
There's no way I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
I think that to me comes down to the business side,
though.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Agreed.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
If you spend this much money on a guy, it's hard
to then say you're basicallyplaying two seasons in one.
And think about the.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Giants drafting to play both.
Think about how much more mediacoverage you get, more clicks.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
But I said, the Giants will be on TV every week.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Whether they're winning or not, they'll be on TV
.
Dion will be there.
It'll be a big thing.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
No, so I mean it's smart for that side of it.
I just think like as a business, I can't invest that amount of
money and make you play twicethe snaps as everyone else.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
I think it hurts him.
I think he could have been abetter player at one position
and if he goes to the NFL andplays one position, I think he
could have a much longer careerthan trying to do this Now.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Maybe he's like I'll do this Potentially, but I mean,
who's to say he ever made theNFL if he only played one
position?

Speaker 2 (58:06):
True Maybe.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
But that's the thing, is a guy like him being a Swiss
Army knife, you see in baseballespecially a guy that you can
throw at any position.
They'll find room for you onthe team because they always
need somebody somewhere.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
So I think you all both say he's good enough to get
his jersey retired.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Yes, statistically, and what he accomplished I mean,
he won a Heisman at Colorado.
Yeah, they should retire him.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Okay, so taking out of it, because I don't know if
he has or not, Are you okay withhim retiring it already?
Yeah, I am.
What are we two, three monthsout of the season I'd like to
see?

Speaker 1 (58:37):
more time between, really just so he can enjoy it
more.
Like I mean, at this point he'snot even drafted yet.
He's got so much he's doingLike it more.
So that, for me, is where thetiming comes in.
Like you said, if it's anall-time, great, yeah, you're
going to get retired.
I just think you should let himenjoy it.
Because here's the thing In twoyears he goes to the NFL, has a

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career-ending knee injury orsomething.
God forbid, I don't want thatto happen to him.
But then he's like, at the veryleast he's got something to
look forward to, Like thatthree-year mark, the retirement
jersey.
I get to really feel somethingagain.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
It's different.
You seem to be a Deion fan ofwhat he's doing.
Are you okay with him retiringhis son's jersey?
Also, do you think he deservedit?

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Best quarterback to ever come through.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
So I guess it's a little different if you're
comparing it to this isn't likea nationwide thing, it's just a
school.
Exactly right, it's just aschool.
So I get your point there.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
It's just a college.
It's not like college footballis retiring.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
There's probably not a lot of jerseys retired there.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
No, there's probably like the first two.
Yeah, my college coach's jerseygot retired after he had
resigned and he'll be the firstto tell you he didn't win a lot
of national championships, butit was just the service and what
he did for the community andall the things that come with

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being in charge.
And I think that, with themedia coverage that those two
got what they brought to theschool think about how much
money flooded ColoradoUniversity.
That alone take out who shouldhave won Heisman or not that
alone shouldn't be granted aretired jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Okay, no, I get that point.
I mean, when I first saw it I'mlike this is crazy.
But you make a valid point withwhy I mean I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
There's more to it than just the football part, I
believe, with retirement I thinkit's hard when you see a guy
retire his son's jersey the verynext year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
There's going to be all these questions because it's
your son.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
But I also love Deion for the entertainment.
Give me entertainment.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
As a player I loved him prime time We've talked
about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Deion a bunch on here , especially back talking
through college football.
I have not fully changed mystance on dm, but the one thing
I I have changed on it is a lotof his antics.
Like you say, you don'tnecessarily care for his antics.
I loved it as a player I don't,but as a coach, yeah I mean, I

(01:01:06):
was kind of with you therebefore, but at this point, like
I've seen everything he's doing,especially modern time,
everything you do, I mean thesame reason we created a podcast
.
It's just more coverage and Idon't think there's anybody
better at it than him right now.
Oh, I agree, he's like we'retalking.

(01:01:27):
I mean, we're literally talkingabout dion in brevard, north
car Carolina, on a Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
He's become relevant across the country, which, in
turn, means.
Colorado is relevant, which inturn means Buffalo football.
People care about.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
All the way back to playing for the Cowboys.
He had his own brand and hestill has that and he still
carries it with him wherever hegoes and anywhere he goes, he's
still going to have that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Some of the things he says I don't love.
So this evening when I went todinner, I walk in and the first
thing I see is the guy sittingin the corner with a Colorado
football hat on.
I'm like you're not going tosee that for any other reason.
Like you, either played thereor now.
It's because they arenationally recognized, because
of Deion no such thing as badpress.
No, no, and honestly Deion's alittle over the top on stuff,

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but it's not like he's reallydone anything super negative.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
No, he hasn't.
All he cares about is he's notdone anything negative.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
And honestly his players really hasn't done
anything negative, it's juststuff that you may not care for,
or we as society may notnecessarily care for, but don't
do anything bad.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
I can never go against someone that cares so
much just about his players.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Yeah, but not even talking about his son or Travis
Hunter who's the best player onthe team, Jimmy Horn who they
talk about.
Every single week His dad's inprison.
Deion's been a dad to that kidLike does he have to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Absolutely not.
Well, think about when he wasat Jacksonville State, right, he
made sure that they all hadtheir names on the back of their
jerseys, because which theydidn't?

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
do that before.
No.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Because, like we want their moms to see them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yeah.
Yeah, I want your parents tosee you on the field.
Yeah, it's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Yeah, he seems to be a good person.
Yeah, yeah, I don't doubt that.
I just don't love some of thethings he says he could be quiet
on.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I want him to call out everybody, call out Alabama
and say we'll beat you.
We'll come to y'all's place andbeat you, because that's what
it's about I don't think they'lltake the game.
I love that he is talking smack, he gets involved speaking of
that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Have you seen like Louisville has been looking for
games and no one will take it?
They tried to get with Georgia.
Georgia was like no, we're good, they've tried.
Who was the other two?
They tried with two big schools.
That was like hey, we're tryingto up our resume and up our
schedule so nobody can say wedidn't play good teams, but you
guys keep backing out.

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Ole Miss was another one thatwas like yeah, we'll come to you
and they're like we're going toplay Georgia Tech and we're
going to play no names.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
It's a lose-lose.
How do we get better for someof those bigger?

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
schools.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
How much record went into that playoff oh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
100% 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
I think we're going to see it shift, where they were
starting to play bigger schools, bigger games because they
wanted to show it.
Now, after this year, they'regonna start going back to the
Cuphead games I don't want it,though I don't either.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
I don't want big games.
I like, I like to see it.
I want big games every week butI'll put a one loss team in
over a no loss team in if youplayed a good schedule.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Indiana should have never been in it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
I agree 100%.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
It was like UCF all those years ago.
Ucf that claims their ownnational championship because we
were undefeated.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Yeah, but your toughest team is Memphis on the
schedule.
That's not going to matter.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Did you see by the way I actually saw it on Not
amused facebook the rule changesum.
They're trying to get rid ofthe players faking injuries,
basically the main one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I did see that yeah, so they're.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Um, I guess it's after after the two minute
warning or within the last twominutes of the half, the player
goes down.
You're basically getting atimeout or and five second
runoff or something like that.
So I'm glad that they're tryingto get rid of some of that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I kind of love it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Oh, I'm not against it, I just think it's hard.
Like we just said, these guyshave never been more athletic
Like.
With that comes the territoryof more injuries, more cramps,
more little things.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
I love the fake injury.
It's a chess game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
I'd say it's part of the chess game.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
It's a chess game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
So now you just got to adjust to the rules, because
I think the rule now is, if youlike, once you line up, if you
go down, okay.
So now, just after the play,just stay down.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
That's all you got to do If the other team's driving
and flowing, break it up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Again, like we said, coaches nowadays are I'm not
necessarily going to say waysmarter, I just think they're
way more into all the aspects ofit than what they used to be.
They pay attention to so manymore things In other sports,
batter can call time to disruptflow.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Even in basketball you see it all the time.
Where shot gets made, time'srunning off.
All of a sudden, the player'sgoing to be like fake,
communicating with someone downthe floor while the ball's just
dribbling down.
Correct, so more time's goingto run off.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Yeah, it's part of the shift game.
I love it.
That's athletics to me.
But again, you're going tochange the rule.
Fine, go ahead and change therule, they will still figure out
ways to do it, it's not, it'snot going to stop it fully,
which again it's part.
It's part of it, I get that,and especially with the what,
the last 10 years I guess, themodernization of no huddle and

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hurry up offense and run as manyplaces humanly possible defense
had to find a way to come backhappen yeah, but at the same
time they've also done stuff tohelp the defense.
Offense can no longer just startsubbing people in and out to
have fresh people.
All the time you make a sub,they pause it and give defense
time to get a sub.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
I will say some of those injuries are comical when
you watch guys just kind of fallover.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
The ones I don't like is it's.
They're lining up and all of asudden, oh yep, I rolled my
ankle.
It's like you should just staydown.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
That's what they're trying to get rid of.
They should teach acting better.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Yeah, so part of your intro is you just have to do a
finance class and an actingclass.
We've got to have a little bithere, guys, because, yeah,
there's especially defensivelinemen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
That's where I feel like I notice it the most, they
go down.
It's like you weren't even partof the play, right?
Why did you?
Why did you fall?
We don't like flopping in it inlike basketball, right?
I mean, it's basically a flop.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
So it's the same thing.
Don't go there.
Yeah, I know those comments onthat too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Uh, so there was another rule.
If you saw that come from theohio state oregon game, yeah,
where they're.
Yep, uh, I guess you can puttime back on the clock if they
intentionally put more than 11on the field for the play yeah
but again, you can find waysaround it.
So that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
That one to me is a little different.
At that point you were tryingto completely play the game
different you are like that.
That's not even to me a chessgame that that is let's throw 15
out there, get the penalty, andthen that's a bit too much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
But again, the rule said something to the effect of
if the player is trying to getoff the field, then it's a
five-yard penalty, but you don'tget time back.
So there's still.
I mean, at what point does theplayer start running?

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
off the field Okay, but after the play has started.
You, okay, but after the playhas started you're in coverage
and then you try to run off.
That's different than I'mactively trying to get off and
they just snapped it.
That to me is a little moreeasy to tell what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
That to me is way different.
But that's what we talked aboutthese coaches.
In every sport they're gettingsmarter and smarter with the
game to beat the rules and tobeat officials.
I think basketball is gettingthat way.
We talk about officials.
I think players are gettingsmart with how to go about
certain things to get fouls,certain angles, things like that

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, but I think that's again.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
You talked about flopping, that's why they do it.
Officials are.
So it's all reaction calls nowbecause they can't keep up Right
, so they see any kind ofmovement.
It's like reaction calls nowbecause they can't keep up Right
, so they see any kind ofmovement.
It's like, oh, and I'll be thefirst to admit, it's not In
every sport.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Us watching on TV we can see it so much better than
any of those officials out there.
We get all the views and angles.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
We get different angles and nobody in front of
you.
It's very different.
I mean even coaching on thesideline.
There's times that you're likeman, probably should have called
that or shouldn't have calledthat, just because we have a
different site.
Then we go back and watch filmwhere it's completely different
and it's like oh yeah, we can100% see this.
I see why he called it or whyhe didn't call it.

(01:09:35):
Very, very different TV is.
It's really hard to take thecasual fans serious when they
talk about that, because it'slike you don't really know.
You were never really there toknow it's not as easy as
everybody's like well, youshould just be able to do it.
The same way everybody's likewell, why do kickers ever miss a

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kick?
They should be able to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Don't try to kick it, try it, it's not the same.
No, kickers are good.
The fact that we usually thinkespecially extra points, we just
assume those are automatic.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
That's not easy, they just make it look easy, but to
me a kicker in the NFL, underthe old kicking where you're
kicking from the three-yard line, if you're not 100%, you should
get cut Right.
You should, Okay, outside of ablock.
I'll say that Because ifsomebody gets through, that's
different.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
But it's not easy.
It takes a talented kicker tohit every one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
I feel like from the three-yard line it didn't take
that much, just kicking the ballup in the air in that timing
from that quick with guys comingat you.
It's a whole other no but thenwatch an NFL game Most extra
points, points, those guys don'tleave.
Well, I agree with like some ofthat they're not even coming
after it unless they still miss,unless it's a super important

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period.
Yeah, now, different.
They're kicking from what?
The 20 yard line at this point,like it's a 30 yard field goal,
like that's different.
But I'm saying especially underthe old rules, when they were
kicking a 17 yard field goal, Igoal, I think we need to arrange
something on the football fieldwith Tyler kicking extra points
.
From the old one.
I can do it 100% what?

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
three-yard line.
Yeah, we're giving him.
What 10 kicks.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
I did that on the Cowboys field.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
That's different.
I just want to see you todaylike 10 kicks from the
three-yard line.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Could you make 100% 10 out of 10?

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
As a non-kicker, I could be more than 70.
All right, we'll do it, then Icould do 7 out of 10.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
I think we should do it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
I think you'd be at 50.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
But as a non-kicker, to still be at 50 at my current
shape.
But are you going to practice?

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
No, no, practice Okay .
No an NFL kicker, we'll videoit, I'm all for it.
I'm up for it too.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
All for it.
We'll have to stretch.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
I don't have to practice, but I'll have to
stretch.
There's a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
I say that's different.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Yeah, first kick, he's going down.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Make the first one, I might fake the injury.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
I'm 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Can we get you to hold it and you just pull the
ball?

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
We're going to Charlie Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
This Don't Lucy me here I really would get hurt at
that point I'd be out for amonth.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
No, I would say 100%.
I'd be lucky to make a couple,because it's harder to get the
ball off the ground andeverything than people realize.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
I agree, I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
So again, I'm not sitting here saying kickers
should be automatic, Especiallynowadays they're kicking 50,
60-yard field goals.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Oh, they're getting longer and longer it's
ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
It's super impressive .
To me, an actual field goal isdifferent than the extra point,
and I'm not even talking aboutthe current extra point.
Current extra point is way thanthe extra point, and I'm not
even talking about the currentextra point.
The current extra point is waylonger than you said, but also
they're not going after it, butcollege is still that close.
Yeah, but again I think you'reat that point still talking
amateur status, College kickers.

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There are so many teams thathow they can't get a kicker, it
blows my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
All right, let me ask you you just brought up
Immature, and this brings me toanother topic that you love,
nascar.
So I want to see how this comesback.
So in NASCAR there's threeseries and well, you know a
little bit about NASCAR.
There's Truck what they nowcall Xfinity, and then the Cup
guys.
Cup guys are the best guys andused to.

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The Cup guys would race theother series all the time.
They'd win all the time,whatever, okay.
So nascar got tired of seeingthose guys win those and limit
them to only a few races.
This past weekend at bristol,kyle larson runs those other
races.
It's only a couple he gets todo.
He runs xfinity race and hebeats those guys the entire race
, like 10, 15 seconds ahead ofhim.
The entire race non-stop.
And afterwards somebody askedhim about it.
He said I really wanted toembarrass nascar.

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He said I wanted to show themthat they're hurting these
younger guys by not allowing usto go out there, show them how
to race.
And then they come up here tocup series thinking, oh, we can
do it because they don't raceagainst us all the time like
they used to do.
You agree with that?
First of 100%.
So you think the good guys Imean the best guys should be

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racing the lower series.
Yeah, okay, so I don't thinkalways.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
I think there should be a certain amount that they
should be able to do, because ifyou're always doing it, then
you just get used to losing,then you're just teaching that
all you should ever do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
So I agree with it in a sense, because these younger
guys are coming into the CupSeries and not doing good at all
.
Right, because they thoughtthey were good.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
I think you should be able to do some.
I don't think that every raceshould be that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Like that to me is too much, even if you, I mean
the very little.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
I know they're not racing in every single race
Correct A few of them every timemaybe, but not always the best
guys, Right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
I think that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
But if your goal is to become the best and get to
the top, tier series yeah, youneed to beat those guys.
Go race with them.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
See what it's like See what they do To an extent.
But like, say, you talk aboutlocally grown up, any travel
basketball we did.
The reason that's which, again,travel basketball now is so
much different.
I'm not a fan of what it hasturned into, but the reason that
they played it in you wouldskip certain tournaments If the

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tournament's too big you'replaying this competition you
can't play with, like I'm notsaying that's the case for
NASCAR, but if you get on thecourt with a team that you
cannot score, you're not gettingbetter by doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
So that's a little different, I think, because
you're not trying to go to theNBA per se, but if you're a
college basketball player tryingto get to the NBA, but as a kid
I could be.
Well then, you should beplaying against the best teams
to see what you need to improve.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
At that point you have to grow to that point Like
you can't just throw a kid outthere that's trying his best,
but if you don't have ten ofthose guys you can't play.
So you're saying like the oneguy should be able to do it and
it just doesn't work that way.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
I think in this scenario I think I'm with David
they should race in any eventthat they want, because if that
helps that one racer, make itand be better, that helps the
sport.
Because how often have we seenguys go to the cup series and be
dominant early on?

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
You need some WD 40 over there, by the way, for that
chair.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
They both do so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
I think that if allowing them to go race in
these smaller events againstlesser opponents, it could help
two or three of those driversthat are in the minor leagues
that when they actually come tothe Cup Series then it's like
passing the torch.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Well, you said minor leagues, but I think of baseball
.
You see, some of these majorleague guys get hurt whenever
they go down.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
They get raised all the time, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Does that help baseball players and minors,
seeing these guys come play withthem and what they got to get
to?

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Yeah, see, I'm the same way and I think I get what
you're saying.
As a kid you know playing,travel and stuff like that.
But once you get to college,like no college kid looking at
the NBA should be afraid to playany NBA player in college, and
I don't know how you would do it.
I would love to see some ofthat exhibition stuff, some NBA
guys, you see it in USAbasketball all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
All the time, all the time, cooper Flay, no so I
think when it comes to talkingabout NASCAR, you're so first
off.
Your top few guys are probablynot going to race in that much
because really they don't needto like they, they have no need
to go back and do that they so.
Kyle bush was one of them thatdone it a lot and he won all the
time tony stewart did a lot,yes yes, but you're talking

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about one, like you're nottaking all like your top 10 guys
every week going to do that no,no, no, not like that, not 10
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
You would see three, four, five probably every week
in it and it'd be different guys, wouldn't be the same guys
every week usually but?

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
but it's the same way like I don't have an issue,
especially with some of yourlower guys that have made it,
that are decent but they're notgreat, yes, bounce back and
forth the same way the nba doeswith their two-way contracts.
Like I don't have an issue withthat.
I just think you it's, it'sgood in ways, but I think you
just have to be careful at howmuch and who you actually allow

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into it, because then you arejust you're still pushing the
same few guys.
A couple of guys might get good, but you're not making 30.
Guys have potential to be good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
It probably helps the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
I think it helps the sport a ton Financially.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
More people will tune in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Sponsors yes, more ticket sales, more everything,
and I really think it helps thesport overall because you get
better drivers who can come upand be that next one as guys
retire.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Well, in this scenario, it seems like he was
wanting to go help them.
He's like I want to go showthem how to race.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
So the sport's not left in a bad spot when I'm done
.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Yeah, I mean that was kind of his comment, you know
um these guys, because andactually the very next day we
saw one of the guys fromextended come up and race cup.
He finished like five laps downyeah and he's one of the top
guys in the, the lower level.
So clearly they're out thererunning every week winning races
, thinking oh, I'm good, andthey have no clue what it's like
going next level.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Next level you have to shrink the gap.
You have to shrink the gap, andI think that's the only way you
can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
And I thought that because you said I don't think
it's the only way to do it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
I think it's one way to do it, but you also have to
look at those guys don't havethe same team.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
They don't have the teams and the money and the
backing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
It's there, but as a business, you're going to push
your biggest stuff.
You're not going to put thesame amount into your low level.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
See, I disagree with that because that's their next
guy up, so they put the money inthem to.
They want them in Cup whentheir big guy leaves, but in
every sport.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
Your lower level does not make the same, doesn't get
the same amount put into them inevery single sport.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
NBA into the G League , I think baseball into the
minors.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
You're not going to put the same amount into it
because it's not making the same.
You're not getting the same offof sponsors.
You're not getting the same offof TV rides.
You're not getting the same.
As a business, you cannot putthe same money into it because
you're not getting it back.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
NASCAR is one of the only sports that really treats
like baseball farm system, wherethey're not like trading, going
out and getting different guys,they're not contracting them to
certain, you know, withoutanother team grabbing them.
I think that NASCAR does apretty good job of we're picking
our next young racer and we'regoing to teach them and we're

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going to bring them up and youput the stuff behind him.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
I just don't think you're going to put the same
amount behind him.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
See, I think they do.
I think they lose.
They probably lose money inthose lower levels because they
pour so much money into it,knowing if we get this guy there
, we're going to get it backwhen he gets to the top series.
So I think they do that.
How many of those guys?
I mean you got to keep 30, 40drivers, I mean yes but make it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
And then, how many times have you actually seen
these guys win?

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
I mean every Like on a season?

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
how many different winners have you had so far?

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
In what?
In the top series In the top,yeah, I don't know.
So a normal season is well, theregular season's 26 races, I
think, before they go in theplayoffs, right, and 26 races, I
think, before they go in theplayoffs, right, and 16 drivers
get in.
If you win, you automaticallyget in, typically 14 to 15.
Win a race of those top 26.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
And then how many are in a field?

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
36, I think now, or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
It's the most they do is 36.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Around there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
yeah, Okay, so less than half the field actually
makes the playoffs correct.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Yeah, 16 makes the playoffs, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Okay, so do they do any kind of relegation?

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
So you finish bad enough, you get sent backwards.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
No, well, I mean, it's all up to the teams.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Like there is no.
But I'm saying as a team, likecan a team get sent backwards?
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
No, a team cannot no.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
But a team, send a driver back down and say we're
going to go with somebody else.
This year you didn't quite cutit, but it's the same thing with
any other farm system.
You're not going to continuallylose money on these guys
because you're not guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Oh no, If the guy isn't performing, you're going
to move on to somebody else.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Correct.
But that's why, again, theseteams are going to get one, two
maybe every few years.
So are going to get one, twomaybe every few years.
So you can't put that X amountof dollars the same that you're
doing the big time every singleyear, because you're at some
point outside of your top fewteams with the money, because

(01:22:21):
there's a few of those teamsthat have more money than they
know what to do with.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
But what you're missing with NASCAR is so
different.
The teams foot a bunch of money, but it's all sponsors paid for
.

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
So they're not how it's.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
the sponsors paid for the smaller you go, the smaller
the sponsor.
Like you, don't have the sameamount of money coming in,
correct?
Because, even then thosesponsors, even if it's a big
name they're not paying the sameamount of money on your minors
as you are for your big team.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
NASCAR is just unique .

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
NASCAR is unique in that because they're building
guys up to make money on themlater Correct, but what I'm
saying, though, is a lower levelcar spot for a sponsorship does
not cost the same as no, Iagree, but that doesn't mean the
team is not putting in as muchmoney to them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
But all I'm saying with that is you cannot
consistently lose money and saythat you're okay with it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Oh no, I agree with that.
They're going to move on.
I don't think they're.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
I don't think that they're putting that amount in
it.
I don't think it's dollar fordollar the same.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Okay, that's irrelevant to the conversation,
but regardless.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
I think that's the point I was being made higher
level.
You're not going to have thesame quality of team, you're not
going to have the same toplevel guys, because those top
level guys are going with thetop level guy.
So you're you don't have thesame platform to stand on.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
No, I get your point, but I'm with will that I think
the cup drivers should go down,race them, show them how to do
it, and I don't care if theybeat them by 15 seconds.
It was still fun to watch.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
To me, Let those guys see what they need to go for it
was fun to watch the one guy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
No, the whole race was still fun.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
I watched it.
You don't even like NASCAR.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
I know, but everybody's 10 laps behind.
What fun is that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
I didn't say 10 laps, I said 10 seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Yes, but in motorsports 10, 10 seconds is a
lot.
Yeah, the second's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
I watched the whole race.
I still thought it was fun.
I thought it was kind of coolto see him put on the show, you
know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
I liked watching Tony Stewart go race the trucks.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Yeah, it's fun, tony.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Stewart will race anything with wheels.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
He's doing drag cars right now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
I would say he's still racing.
I know Like he switched toSwitch to what's the top drag.
Yeah, he's doing that now.
Well, it's because his wife wasdoing it and she had a baby, so
he took over her car.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Yeah, dale Earnhardt Sr raced in all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
He did yes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Junior didn't, but there's a few of those guys,
though, that are so eat up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
He'll go back some now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
A few of those guys that were so eat up with racing.
They don't care, they'd race ago-kart If it has a motor and
wheels.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
they will race it.
That's a lot of these.
Well, until recently a lot ofthese teams would put in their
contract these guys couldn't gorace dirt track cars and things
like that, because they didn'twant them to get hurt, tired, I
guess, whatever.
Now they're kind of lettingthem because they see it helps.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Did Tony Stewart ruin some of that too.
He that's what I'm saying likedid that ultimately kind of hurt
it like, yeah, which again thatwas his fault.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Guy shouldn't have been out of his car.
Yeah, there was a lot to it,though he's still driving the
car yes, correct, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
I'm not saying that he's not at any fault, but that
whole situation was terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
I don't think he meant to kill him, did he mean
to scare him, probably injuring,maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
You know, I'm not his head, but yeah, but I think to
me on a racetrack, don't get outof your car I agree with that
like on the freeway, don't getout of your car, you're gonna
get hit these guys, especiallyon these dirt tracks.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
They get so mad, I mean, but there's nascar races.
From back in the day you seevideos of guys throwing helmets
at cars going down the tracknext to them.
It was pretty fun.
When's the last time you'veseen that though?
Oh, you can't anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
But that's what I'm saying.
There's nothing happening likethat anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
No, it's safety right now, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Safety is the big thing.
But I'm all for safety.
Don't get me wrong, I don'twant to say it like that, but
you almost go too far, and Ithink every sport they almost go
too far with certain things.
I mean, you go to safety forNFL.
You can't touch quarterback,you can't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Yeah, no, I get that you go too far in one direction
Like let them fight.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Let them fight for the entertainment.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
Let me see something great.
If that's dale and heart, jrwinning 12 straight truck races.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
I'm in me too well, but what that does too.
If you're a dale jr fan, youlove it yeah if you're not, you
hate it, so you're stillwatching, you know.
So it's like it's the samereason I watch kyle bush all
those years.
I hate kyle bush.
Yeah, right, see, you stillhate kyle bush junior still
racing much, uh, right now.
So he's a part owner of, likethe Cars Tour.
That's like a top tier.

(01:26:56):
I don't want to say local trackguys, but some of the smaller
stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
It's like the Champions Tour.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Yeah, yeah, and he'll race occasionally on those.
But I mean he owns Xfinity cars, dirt cars.
He's still very involved InNASCAR.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don'tthink He'll ever not be.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Some type of involved , just the name alone.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
It's so sad Because Junior just Was never that great
.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
Everyone wanted him To be so good Following, but
following your parent Anythingis yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
So Well, he's talked about it A lot.
He never put in the effort, noLike talked about it a lot, he
never put in the effort.
No, like he just was having fun.
Yeah, and he didn't realizeuntil he was way older and
having concussion issues.
Yeah, oh, I could have donethis better, you know.
So are you getting cold there?

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
it got cold.
It did.
Yeah, I don't know.
I can see some of the airsetting it got very cold, very
cold.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Anybody hitting golf balls still?

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
No, the last few had left.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Everybody said too cold.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
I mean, we did just finish up the Masters too.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
I thought we'd have a lot of people here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Actually so me, and Will watched it from here Did
you.
Yeah, and it was a full day ofwaiting on the meltdown of Rory
and he tried.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
He tried his hardest.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
I felt like it was the golf gods knowing how badly
he wanted it, like okay, ifyou're going to win one, you're
going to go through every trialof this course possible.
And he did it and I'm so happyhe did.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Well, but we sat here and watched this and the back
and forth of he's up by fourstrokes, he's down by a stroke,
he's even and Rose played afantastic back nine.
Yeah, he did Just to get backeven.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
It was the best Masters since Tiger won it.
Well, so by the numbers, it wasthe most watched since Tiger
won it, since it was the mostwatched since 2018.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Read one wow, and that one actually had more views
than the tiger win, because Ithink everybody was kind of down
with the fact.
So, yeah, I'm probably.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
I know I'm in the minority in this.
I'm not a big rory fan reallynever have been.
I don't have anything specificI don't have anything specific?

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
What's the?

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
turnoff.
I don't have anything specific,I just he's never appealed to
me, I feel like most people arethe other way.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
Most are, and maybe that's why Not that they're a
huge fan, but it's like I likehim.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
I'm not a huge Rory fan, but at this point I'm like,
yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
He's not one that I'm Watching, that I was rooting
for him to lose and when hemissed that putt I was like oh,
here we go and he come back andwon it.
And his reaction afterwards andhim talking I'm so glad he won
it, like it meant so much to him.
This was the 11th try on thecareer-grand slam.

(01:29:49):
Yeah's hard Again.
He's not like my favoritegolfer, but it helped my opinion
of him a little bit and againthere was nothing like I hated
him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Was that just because he doesn't play for Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
No, no, it had nothing to do with that, because
that's your team for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
The only hang-up I have on Rory is that he plays
for Europe in the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
And that might be part of it for me.
I'm always rooting against himthere.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
It's hard to cheer for Europeans In golf.
It's really hard becausethey've still got that America
versus everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
But now I used to love cheering for John Rowe.
Now he's gone, I don't eventhink about him anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
If Rory was American, I'd be his biggest fan.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
Yeah, I don't have any pinpoint thing of what.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
That's their tiger.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
Yeah, like that is Europe's tiger.
Yeah, for sure.
Everything has to be put behindhim, because he is all they
have.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
No, he helped my opinion a little bit.
He's still not my favoritegolfer, but I was rooting
against him.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
But a better person could have won that, so sitting
here watching it me, and Willkept going back and forth saying
he birdied 17, got himself astroke up.
We're like all right, 18's atough hole.
We've seen 18 of the Gustav amillion times.
It's all about the tee shot andhe hits the most perfect tee
shot you can hit and we're likeall right, well, he's won.

(01:31:05):
Unless we made the commentunless he shanks one and it
almost came out of my mouth orunless he goes short in the
bunker.
Yeah, and he did it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
But all he had to do was make the putt.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
I know it's a hard putt, though.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
It's easy to say, but like it's Augusta going for the
green jacket, like the amountof pressure there.
Like Will Will said, I think 15times I cannot imagine the
pressure there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Who's more nervous?
Him standing there trying tomake the putt or Rose over there
?

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
waiting to see if he made the putt Him for sure, him
100%.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Because it was in his hands.
I guess Rose at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
He was on the driving range.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
He's hitting balls like like I may have to be ready
, so I'm gonna stay ready forhim it's, he's still distracted.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
I would be a nervous wreck over there on the hitting
balls on the driving range,though like oh gosh, what's,
what am I gonna have to go do?

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
this to me.
I think I would be less,because at that point you're
like I got it all the way backhere.
I gave myself a chance.
Yeah, like it's out of my handsat this point yeah like ferrari
.
It was, it was in his control.
He makes the putt, he wins itin regulation.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
We didn't have to go to extra no, I was glad he
basically got another shot at aputt so he could make it yeah I
mean he had a tap in, yeah onthe playoff yeah, I could have
made that one I don't know thatI could.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
I don't know if I could make any putt at augusta
because those greens are soridiculous, but that's one of
those like yeah, I want to tryit.
Like, give me that three-footerLet me see we actually have
which obviously don't have thepressure the same.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
I didn't know.
There's somebody that I knowthat their kids come out here
and stuff, and I found out likethe night before he had master
tickets and was going.
I was like I'm so jealous.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Yeah, sunday would have been so cool.
Yeah, I don't know if he wasthere on Sunday or not, that
would have been.
I mean, I know a couple of guysthat were there Whitmires, yeah
.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Would it be as fun, because you're not going to have
the same coverage, obviously,that you get on TV, because
you're going to be kind ofchasing everything.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
I don't know.
So final day might be becauseyou're going to follow the
leaders.
Like me, personally, I'm Iwould have followed rory and
dechambeau all day.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Yeah, like that to me would have just been like I
would have followed somebodyearly and then circle back for
them.
I would have followed speed oruh, jt, yeah, for a little bit,
but you could follow thatearlier and then skip over and
catch up with the leadersespecially for back nine.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
Almost everybody else is done.
You're following JT or you'refollowing.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
Rory Shambo Rose a couple of holes ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Like, yeah, I think it would still be.
It'd be fun to see that live.
Yeah, Like that playoff livewould have been so much fun.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Oh, the playoff would have been well again.
I guess it would have been, butI wouldn't have got all the
information that the announcergives me and all the different
angles and the different shotsand that I would have missed.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
I think it's just like any live sport, like it's
just it's not the same as the TVprogram, but you're still
getting it very different.
It's still really cool, but Ifeel that way.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
I went to one NASCAR race.
I think NASCAR and golf bothfor me.
I enjoy more on TV than I wouldin person.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
I could see that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Now basketball football.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
I mean, I definitely think golf as a whole because
you're only going to get to seea few people.
Right, you don't get to.
I mean for Augusta, espn, cbs,all the guys.
They do a great job.
You're seeing a shot every 20seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
You're seeing a shot every 20 seconds.
Yeah, you're seeing something,though, if I had the option to
go to sunday at augusta or siton my couch.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
I'm probably going to augusta oh I, I think I would
too, but would you feel the same, like for the pga or the or the
opening?

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
yeah because I think augusta just has a different
allure than but see, but seekind of what you're talking
about there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
If it's just some random tournament, I would
almost prefer to go to that,because I don't care as much
about the story and everythinggoing on.
I can just go watch some guysplay golf.
It's not as important.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
So if it's a major, does it change your mind?

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Like any major, does it change your mind than it does
just a regular one, I wouldwant to go to be there, but I
think I would enjoy it morewatching it on TV than being
there.
Like I want to say, I was there.
That would be the only reasonI'd want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
I think Augusta is just different, because it's
it's Augusta, it's Augusta.
I agree, it's hard to describeit's Augusta.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
I mean as a kid, because job of keeping that kind
of covered everything in townprice went up that week, like
hotels, like everything you saw,you know the amount of traffic
there it was, yeah, and sothat's what I remember as a kid,
because I knew nothing aboutgolf, didn't really know what
masters was, I just knew, likethat first week, april, whatever
it was, everything was going tobe expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
It'll be crowded, it was, you know well, a friend of
me and will for a long time, hashad hunting property right
there and he's, he said, evenlike that week I'm tempted to
rent out my little huntingcamper.
Yeah, because I could make 10grand that week, yeah, which is
crazy to think.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Well, I lived there early to mid-90s and you would
see hotel rooms.
Your generic hotel room $50 anight.
Go to $400 a night.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Yeah, and we're talking 90s, Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
It was crazy.
The clientele is different.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
I can't imagine now what those are like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Oh, I'm sure Everybody's probably Air's now,
you're not getting a $50 hotelroom anymore.
No.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
That's probably a $600, $700 hotel at that point.
But yeah, the Airbnb and all ofthat, that's become so big.
I think that's what you'reseeing huge now.
But, yes, again what you justsaid the clientele.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
It's not like it's like what you're getting in
Super Bowl.
It's like what you're gettingit.
You know the nationalchampionship, like it's, it's
the biggest of the big.
So I'm a little different andpeople, they're gonna go to have
money.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
I Mean it's golf and for like you gotta have money
off.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
Anyways, they make millions in merchandise and
those like four days.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Yeah, it's unreal.
I can't remember the stat, butit was like so many thousands
every second.
Yeah, like I mean it was crazyI don't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Yeah, I can't imagine no, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
That's one that I apply every single year.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
I get denied every single year yeah, what does it
take to finally get in?

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
it's just a lottery.
I mean, it's a lottery, I know,but so is it?

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
I don't mean to say this really.
Is it people dying off and nowtheir tickets are available, or
because nobody's giving them upright?

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
right?
No, I do.
I think that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
I don't know.
So there's, there's a certainallotted that there's, there's
certain people that are justgoing to get tickets.
Yeah, it's just chance, likeit's just up to chance.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Because I think if you had the tickets here before
you get first shot at them againlike every year.
So I can't imagine, unlesssomething crazy happened, you're
not going to get them, and ifyou can't go yourself, you're
going to get them for your buddyor somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
So I just don't know how they ever come available
Like through their standards.
You can't sell the tickets.
You can't sell the tickets.
You can't do that, but againyou hand them to your buddy and
it's like they're not thatexpensive for what it is, for
what it is.
No, it's not a crazy price,it's really not.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
They're less expensive than Ryder Cup tickets
.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
Yeah, but Ryder Cup's also.
It's a different thing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
I would enjoy going to the Ryder.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
Cup.
If I had the option betweenRyder Cup and Masters, I think
I'd go to Ryder Cup.
That's how much I love RyderCup I think.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
I would too so if it was Ryder Cup away.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
I'm still going.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
That might be more for me to go.
Let's go check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
To me.
I want to see it, but I wouldlove to see it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Yeah, right, but I would love to see it, but I
would love to see it, but Iwould love to see it on the home
turf, because how electric.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
That at Bethpage is going to be so rowdy it's going
to be so fun.
I'm looking forward to that somuch.

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
But tickets are like two grand for a day.
They're high, no way.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
We know you're not doing that.
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
But they also have way less rules on how they do
those tickets.
But it's a huge event, whichthat's one thing I think other
sports have not capitalized onis doing something like this.
No, I think the Ryder Cup's thebest event that sports has.

(01:39:27):
That's a hard thing to say thatit's the best of all sports.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
But I, I think it is, I think it's definitely up
there.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
I mean, it's one of those things that.
But why hasn't golf learned andput out more stuff like this?
This is what we want.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
It is what we want.
I think that's why we want itthough.
Well, but golf doesn't listento the fan much.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
No, golf is not a fan-first kind of sport, first
kind of sport, they need to fixthat, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
I think that's why we love it, though, because we get
it so rarely and it's alwaysgreat.
It's always great.
Even when the US loses, it'salways great.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
Well, so here in the past it's patriotic man Gosh
quite a while.
Whoever's home wins yeah, Hometurf wins, Like at some point
we're going to see that break.
Really don't want it to be thistime.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
It could be, though it could very well be this time
Europe's in good place.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
See, that's why I loved watching TGL, why I really
got into it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
A lot of the big Americans are gone.
It's that team aspect.
So a lot of the big Americansare gone.
I know, and some people havebeen afraid to pick the live
guys.
I don't think he's afraid.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
He needs to pick the best players.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
Then Bryson and Brooks have to be on the team.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Exactly.
I don't care where you're, atwhat you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
You need the best players, and Spieth and JT
shouldn't be on it if they'renot playing well, jt, I wouldn't
have as much of an issue thisyear.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
No, I wouldn't.
Last year's JT he should,should have been on the team.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
I really enjoyed JT in TGLT.
He's great.
He's great for media golf.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
His golf game hasn't been as good as I would like it.
The PGA has got to get overthis whole thing of well, Liv
does team, we don't want to doit Team golf.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
TGL was fantastic yeah, like the team aspect of it
turned out to be great, but youcould have took TGL to the
course and I still would haveloved it.
It had nothing to do with thestadium and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
I like the team part PGA Fall should turn into team
golf and I would watch everysecond.
I would, too, every second.
It's post-season, so you'realready done with that.
It's cool.
It's a different thing.
Turn into team and let's justgo with it.
I agree, make the teams havesomething that is a uniform Like

(01:41:31):
.
At the very least the live guyshave the hat.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
I think they'll have to do that at some point.
Give something.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
It's hard to sell merchandise that you don't wear.
Yeah, it is.
Those guys don't ever wear thatlook.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Can we just start team golf right here at 4U Golf
and we're just going space therewe go, get me the people I'd
love to do it last are you gonnabe a captain of the team?

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
yeah, let's go who's your first pick, like out of
guys?
You know here.
What do you mean?
I have guys not here no, Idon't care I just want to have
fun.
I don't even care if I win yeah, yeah, if I'm too competitive,
I gotta try to win I mean I wantto win but I'm gonna have more
fun than anything.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
But that's what team golf does.
That's what live does.
I don't watch a lot of livebecause nobody does.
When is it on?
It's on cw and the thing aboutit.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
Well, so they're fox now are they?
Have a fox deal okay, but it'sstill just it's watered down
there's so few tournaments,there's so few of so much.
Everything is trying to bewaste management.
It's like it's okay to bedifferent, don't make it be
something that PGA is not doingWell.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
I don't think the lift guys are really that good
outside of DeChambeau and PrinceI was going to say not overall.
Yeah, they're not near as goodas the guys on tour.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
A lot of guys that have went there have tanked.
It feels like Dustin Johnson,jon Rahm, I mean there's more,
so you look at Dustin Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
He went because he didn't want to play golf anymore
.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Yeah, he really didn't want to play golf anymore
.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Like in his mind he's like I want to play as little
as possible.
I want to go fishing.
I think Jon Rahm feels that wayTo make his name bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
He was a big name, don't get me wrong, he's huge,
but I feel like he needed to domore at PGA.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
But he got the money and now he doesn't have to.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
And that's what.
I don't blame anybody for goingto Lakers.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
I don't either.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
But look at still a young guy, joaquin Neiman.
He plays more tournaments nowthan he did on PGA.
He didn't have a great Masters,I mean finished top 20, yeah
but he is playing moretournaments now than he was
before, so for him money's great, but I think he still wants to
be a part of stuff some of thoseguys I feel like still want to

(01:43:38):
be like.
They just need to combine andjust get it over with I want to
see what's it going to take,though at this point, like we
are, a few years out I want tosee old school wcw.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
I want to see pj tour .
Bring in the Live the NWO andwe're one group and we're
against each other and we'resome team matches.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
I'm fine if they keep it as a separate thing, but it
should be intertwined and theyshould get points towards.
I don't think they're evergoing to get points.
As a three-day tournament, Ithink basically what they're
ever going to get points, so itwas a three day tournament Like.
I think basically what they'resaying is like it's hard for us
to get equivalent points forless work.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Let's make everybody three days.
I'm fine with that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
I am too.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Four days too many, it's too many.
If you're going to switch itacross the board like it's fine,
it's just.
I hate, like right now.

Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
I hate, hard for me to say hey, you did great you
played a whole last day.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
I think it's hard to say it word for word is
equivalent two rounds.
I want a.
Uh, I'm good with two rounds.
Two rounds, I said a while back, cut after one.
Yeah, when I play golf 12 to 15, I'm ready to be done.
I don't need 18 holes, I don'tneed it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
It's too much I could play 27, it's not enough.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
No I will go t off again if you want to, but I
don't need 18 for the same match.
Yeah, like that's just, that'stoo much.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
But that's one thing I've not really looked into,
like in other sports.
Like you kind of know why theydo certain things.
Why did golf do it that way?
Yeah?
I've seen some stuff in thepast, but it wasn't exciting but
yeah, I mean, none of thereally rules of any sport are
exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
I'm just curious, like but on the live pga thing,
I want to see a rider cup stylelive versus the pgs me too.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
You want to talk about ratings?

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
yeah, that would be unbelievable but they're too
stubborn to just work togetherand make it?
Well, it's not they, it's pgawell, okay, the pga is too
stubborn.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
It is Monaghan and the crew.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Again worst commissioner in all sports.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
So maybe we need Adam Silver to go run.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
PGA.
I agree with that.
I'm waiting for some kind ofcomment from Tyler, I think
we're going to have some kind ofall-star game.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
It's nothing but trick shots and we're not going
to have it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
We've said that PGA live.
Whoever some golf, there needsto be some kind of fan
appreciation all-star event.

Speaker 4 (01:45:57):
Yeah, we have talked about that.
Every sport does it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
Let's make it fun and golf is easy.
You do a long drive competition.
You do a small little teamevent.
You do a closest to the pin youdo a drive chip putt thing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Again, these are all it is.
You do some little things.
We just started right here at4U Golf and we'll handle it for
them.
I mean, we could send an inviteto Scotty Scheffler to come out
here and play in our event.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
I don't foresee us getting Scotty but, I'd try.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
We'll get Connor.

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
We could, I'll try.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
we'll get connor we could take connor over him any
day.
Connor over scotty yeah, yes,yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
But then, like, here's the thing if, if team
atlanta shows up, we're gettingnothing out of david I'm just
hanging out with those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
He's gonna just be like following around everywhere
they go and it wasn't likethey're my favorite golfers,
they were just fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
They were at the time , but they probably are now.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
But, like I said, so they even went and won, but they
were having fun and that's whatI would do as a captain.
Yeah, I'd want to win, but I'mgoing to have fun doing it.
If I do, I'm not going to beall uptight and you know, got to
stay focused, focused.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
No, but I think that's not in that event, I
would have rather have seenAtlanta LA final.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
I think it had been more fun, um, probably.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
I don't know.
I think it was going to winregardless.
I do too.
I think Atlanta was going towin no matter what, but New York
was a boring team.
We said that cause they werethe first match ever.

Speaker 4 (01:47:26):
And we said that after that first one.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
It's like oh my gosh, they're so dry.
How do we watch this for twohours every week?
And then Atlanta shows up andyou're like oh, that's how you
watch it for two hours everyweek.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
Those guys had it figured out, rory's team wasn't
the most fun to watch Tiger'steam?

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
definitely wasn't the most fun to watch, unless
you're like.
That's what we look forward to,but I mean tiger.

Speaker 1 (01:47:48):
Tiger's not a huge personality guy like that it's
not what you watch him for, sothat's different too no, but
he's like we said.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
He's always been that focused mindset when he stepped
on the golf course and that'swhy he was so good.
That's not what you need inthat type of event no.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
So to me the best way to watch some of tiger's stuff
now is watch some of the TeamTaylorMade stuff, because it's
on a driving range, they'redoing little challenges, they're
looking in each other's bagsand you just hear Tiger talking
equipment.
It's not the focus.
Like, don't talk to me Tiger,it's just him hanging out with

(01:48:22):
his buddies.
That one's very different.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
I agree.
I think we've got all the ideas.
Maybe we'll just run it.
I think we've got all the ideas.
Maybe we'll just run it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
I think so listen, start, start the assignment.
Get the people.
We can get the people to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
I'll do it well, that's your job.
You gotta get the people.
I come up with the idea I can'tdo it all.
I mean, come on, will's gonnaoversee it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
I can oversee it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
I need a small compensation.
Will's the commissioner.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
Are you the?

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
commissioner, if I get money?
Yes, if I get money.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
How about Depends?

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
on how much money you bring in.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
I'll buy your dinner on the nights we have it, that's
enough for me.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
It's not going to take much, he's not breaking
into his $50.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
He's good I know, but dinner is like value menu.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
He'll still take it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
I say he's thinking now Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:49:16):
I saw the look on his face.
What if I?

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
could pay you an information, what kind of?

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
information.
What does that even mean?

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
I know certain things that he would like to know and
I could probably find peoplethat would know these things.
Like what?

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
Yeah, where are we going here?
He wants to know more aboutPerry.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
Probably find people that would know these things
like what, yeah, um, where arewe going here?
He wants to know more aboutperry.
I mean, I know some people thatcould probably give him some
information I would say he'd bein for that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
I'll get the spreadsheet rolling he's gonna
have a reddit thread yeah,literally oh, he probably would.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
That actually would be one I would.
I would deep dive, please thatthread.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
I want to come.
Hey, listen, we'll put it onour website.

Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
You can start a thing about not amused.
I will, that's what we can do.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
Actually, that would be a really good thing for him.
It would be Like let you justdo some blog style stuff on the
back, for sure You'd have funwith that.
Oh dude, yes, we could do it.
David's going to be like whatis all this Star Wars crap on
here?

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
Then we'll just bring you on and be like, hey, what
the heck is this?
Listen, I've heard Death Starreferenced two or three times a
night.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
I don't even know what you're talking about, so
you don't even know what theDeath Star is.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
I do not know what the Death Star is.
You can't go down this.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
too late for this Wow .
I do not I'll be here until 3am so.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Wow, but I'm okay with it.
I don't need to know.
It's what the moon is.

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
It's literally what the moon is.
It's just the Death Star.
But here's the thing he knows.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
Darth Vader.
Everyone knows that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
I know who that is harry potter.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
Oh, okay, I know we really have to start recording,
because the look he just gaveyou was everything like the
disdain and hatred and that lookwas like I'm still trying to
figure out.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
He said something like the moon.
That's what the moon is, I'mlike.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
The Death Star is basically like a moon.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
And our moon is the.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
Death Star oh gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
Okay Could be, we've never been Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:51:23):
Sure, I don't know You're getting a little nerdy
here.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
So every week, will's going to show up and he's going
to have something printed off.
Dave, just look at this.
All I need you to know is justlook at it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
I'm going to start getting random texts with
two-minute clips of this.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
The X-Wing was created and the designer was
this guy.
This is what it does.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
That would be the only way to get me to learn any
of it, because I ain't watchingthe movies.
Two minutes here and there, Ican handle.

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
Well, but that's like we talked with Brian last week.
At this point it's been so longyou almost feel like you just
can't.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
I'd be, betraying myself at this point, that's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
You're just so far at this point.
At your age at this point it'slike I can't go backwards.
It would almost feel likeyou're going backwards.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
Is there something equivalent to you that's like
you've never seen or don't careabout that?
Maybe a lot of other people do,or maybe I would care about.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
Yeah, definitely, I actually had a conversation the
other day, couldn't?

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
have been that important, because you don't
remember I was going to say I'mjust tired.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
I never watched Sandlot We've talked about that
I've only seen bits and piecesof it, but Star Wars is this
huge.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
It's a huge thing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
Huge thing.
I don't know if there'sanything else out there that
huge that people would like.
It's one side or the other.

Speaker 3 (01:52:40):
There has got to be something.
Never watched Star Trek.
I never watched, but that's notan uncommon thing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
No, I mean, I think a lot, not you, but a lot of
people that are really deep inlike stories, that kind of stuff
are not sports guys.
A lot of times you start to getto that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
I think you put Harry Potter in that realm because of
how big how much money?
That's made.
I read the books three times.
That isn't surprising.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
So I don't know the last time I read a book.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Let's not get in that conversation, because I
couldn't tell you either.
It's been a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
I asked for two for Christmas a couple years ago.
I got through a couple chapterswith one of them.

Speaker 4 (01:53:17):
And they were sports figures.

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
I've never hugely enjoyed reading, but again, I
think it comes back to time.
I don't have time to sit, Iagree.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
Documentaries are so big, now too.
It Documentaries are so big.
Now too, it's almost pointless.
That's true.
Yeah, there's a documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
There's a new one out about the Boston Red Sox.
I've heard it's great.
Oh my gosh, it's awesome.
I haven't got to really messwith it, but I've heard it's
great.

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
It's similar to Full Swing Right, except for they
follow one team.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
But you've never really watched Full.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
Swing.
I never swing, I never have.
I keep hearing about it, butit's a time thing again for me.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Yeah, but I do think you would like it because it
it's got a lot of that like tglstyle in.
Okay, you're just seeing guysin a different light, yeah like
you're actually no, I, I doenjoy that it's.
It's actually.
There's some really funny parts, there's some really like yeah,
I think you would.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
You would actually when, when I have a few minutes
usually it's late at night orsomething I find myself watching
a comedy sitcom for a few, justto kind of check out for a
minute or a grinding Call ofDuty, which we haven't done yeah
, we haven't done that in awhile, that's been.
I think they're all I thinkthey're all season 3.

Speaker 4 (01:54:20):
Yeah, we never even played season 2.

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
So I think we the last time any of us played was
that same night where we all gotoff, and that was it I think
everything just hit everybody atonce, I guess so think about
that like go back to it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
You never know when it's going to be your last
that's, but do you thought youmentioned earlier, do you know
what started the stop?
I guess you'd say of it outhere picking balls at night and
I'm plugging balls and freezingand yeah it's kind of like we
started have to doing that youstart getting busy with other
things and then baseball seasonstarted and I just wasn't free.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
I couldn't get on yeah, but you go to bed at 9 30,
so it's like one thing will hasbeen looking forward to, though
for probably like five months,is when it gets hot at night.
He's already looking forward tolate nights out here, like he's
already talked about that,because it's just, it's a blast,
it is like we do some of thedumbest stuff, like I mean
having isaac up here and we'reliterally hitting
glow-in-the-dark balls at eachother.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
Yeah, like oh no we had.
We had the mule out there we'dgo down the field and film them.
Coming at you like trying tohit the mule it's like pitch
black and those.

Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
Yeah, we gotta buy some more of those.
Those are cool yeah I forgotabout those but yeah just stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
It'd be 1 am out here , Will was one of the first ones
in the simulator.
Out here with us Was yeah,Until 1 o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:55:34):
We were playing Orchard Trace.

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
We were playing that until like 2 am.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
That was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
That's when I was still driving 45 minutes.
I had to get my truck afterthat and go all the way to the
other side of Henderson.
I was going to say you're stillall over there, yeah it was a
late night.
But think about it now how manythings do we have to play?

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
Well, this top tracer , yeah, I mean it's game changer
.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
It's changed.
It's so much easier.
That's why we got rid of thesimulator.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
We didn't need it, but here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
You walk up, you click a button.
It's easy, it's really easy.
So yeah again, if you haven'ttried it, if you just want
something to do, come try it.
Yeah, it's fun my four-year-oldtoday has beaten every level of

(01:56:21):
Angry Birds.
I mean, he is having a blast.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
I was out here a week or so ago, maybe two weeks now,
and I'm assuming it was acouple I don't know, I think it
was a guy and a girl come up andthey were not old but older,
maybe 30s or something.
I don't know.
You know, not kids is what Imean by that, sure, and they're
like oh yeah, somebody told usabout this place and we wanted

(01:56:44):
to come try Angry Birds.

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
We heard about Angry Birds, birds we heard about
angry birds like of everythingwe have here.
You heard about angry birds alittle bit.
It's actually fun, like Iplayed it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
I played it with my little one a couple days ago and
it's it's actually angry birdssupposed to be on my phone or on
a computer just like that, likeI mean you have to do something
, but it feels very, verysimilar to that somebody was
playing it the other day outhere I was talking I can't
remember who it was and they oh,I think it's the guy that
brought us a vending machine,yeah, and he kept shooting it

(01:57:15):
over the top.
He's like I can't get this balldown.
So, uh, it still takes a littlebit.

Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
Well, I say, it depends on what level you have
it on okay so the high, the moredifficult level, the farther
they are actually away.
That's where it's different.
That means it's 12-15.
I can see the look on your face.

Speaker 3 (01:57:35):
He's already dreading it you have nothing to do
tomorrow, I know, but I'm justthinking about Monday, when my
alarm goes off.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
That's like three days from now you have time to
catch up.
Have you had to go in?
I know you've had baseball, buthave you had to kind of go into
the classroom at all oranything over spring break?
Does it have to work a littlebit?
I?

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
have a lot to do.
Yeah, tomorrow's going to be abig school day, when you finally
get there, have you done?

Speaker 1 (01:57:59):
anything this week.

Speaker 3 (01:58:02):
No, so that's why this is what I would do in
college.

Speaker 2 (01:58:05):
I would cram it at the end.
Procrastinator.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
I'd have a paper due Sunday night, I'd be like
Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
I'd be like I should probably start.
I should probably start.
It's probably the best gradesyou get when you just throw
something out there.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
I don't know, because that's all I ever did.

Speaker 4 (01:58:16):
I don't know what it was like you don't know the
difference.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
I actually like planned it up, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
It's genetics that just 100% blame your parents
regardless.
I was one of those guys thatnever technically went to
college.
I did a little bit of onlinestuff, but I was that way in
high school.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
I did that in high school.
I wanted to do everything elsethat I could for as long as
possible and then I'll finallydo that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
I always had good grades, but I was not bringing
work home no, I can't talk aboutit.

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
So many teachers nowadays have made the switch.
They're not sending work home.
No, no, I don't.
Even I can't talk about.
Yeah, but so many teachersnowadays have made the switch.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
They're not sending work home because it wasn't
getting done.
I hate homework.

Speaker 3 (01:58:54):
There's still a lot that do but there's a lot that I
don't send homework homebecause it's just more for me to
do.
I could see that makes senseit's just more papers for me to
grade see, as a dad, my daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
I'm like she's there all.
When she comes home she's gotsoftball going on.
She wants to spend time withher family.
I don't want her to have to godo homework.
That's the way I feel about it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:16):
Amen to that.
I'll teach your daughter.
Yeah, she's going to love myclass.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
Gosh when she gets to high school, I'm going to be
like, no, you can't have him.
Worst possible, have himWhere's possible class.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
I'm saying you're going to Will's class and you
give him a hard time nonstop.
Yeah, but most of your hallwaysthat way.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
Yeah, they are Like, they're all very, that's
actually a really good hallway.

Speaker 4 (01:59:36):
to be honest with you , it's the best hallway.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
They're not the.
Let's send you hours of work.
Yeah, If they send somethinghome.
It's because a here's 15 hours.
I need you to finish.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
Well, there's one For the last 20 minutes.
I feel like Tyler's, like arotisserie chicken.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
I know he's just like rotating around the.

Speaker 1 (01:59:56):
Go sit in that chair for a minute.
I don't know if it's where,it's through that other
breezeway, but that wind washitting and I couldn't do it.
I was over there to it.
I mean, if I had differentclothes, maybe Fire-retardant
stuff, I'd try it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
I got you it's cold.
Yeah, my toes are getting cold.
That's kind of the time where Ilike it Well, so that's what
it's been.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
So when it gets really hot out here, we're not
going to wind it, we won't.
Yeah, it's a little different.

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
Yeah, if it wasn't so cold now, we'll be back out
there hitting golf balls in aminute.

Speaker 3 (02:00:37):
Listen, he's already threatened to cut the cables so
that nobody else can come duethe close to the pin, seriously,
because he's like I'm winningthis thing, I'm winning that.
$50 means a lot to me.

Speaker 1 (02:00:48):
Ten bucks, you don't win I.

Speaker 3 (02:00:51):
Yeah, I'm winning that.
$50 means a lot to me.
$10 you don't win.
I don't have $10.

Speaker 4 (02:00:54):
Hence why?

Speaker 3 (02:00:54):
I'm so focused on closest to the pin I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
He's going to win one to be able to pay you the $10.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:01:05):
It's true.
All right, you win this one,I'll bet you the next one.

Speaker 3 (02:01:08):
All right deal, I bet I will win this one.
I bet I will, All right, youwin this one.
I'll bet you the next one, allright deal.

Speaker 2 (02:01:12):
I bet I will win this one.
I believe in you, Thank you,and I think you're going to get
closer, though I don't thinkwhat you got now is going to win
it, but I think you're going toget closer.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
No, we both had that conversation.
He doesn't think what he hasnow wins it Over Monday the end
of the month.

Speaker 3 (02:01:26):
Oh, is it the end of the month?

Speaker 4 (02:01:27):
Yeah, I have time.

Speaker 1 (02:01:29):
Yeah, you still have a couple weeks.

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
I'm sure like throwing them from the.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
I don't know if I'll pick it up Some.
It depends on the angle thatyou throw it.
If you come out, a little bitof sidearm action it'll 100%,
that's what I throw anyway.
Yeah if you go like over, itdoesn't.
I've tested it, so underhandtoss You've got to do underhand
toss.

Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
Yeah, I can do that, see if that'll work 120.

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
120 yards underhand toss.
You've got to take a knee onthe mat.

Speaker 2 (02:01:55):
Take a knee, put your hand down the ball and kind of
shove it out there.
Yeah, like it looked like itcame off a golf glove.

Speaker 1 (02:02:00):
That's chucking it.

Speaker 3 (02:02:02):
I couldn't throw a baseball 120 yards in the air,
so there's no way I could throwa golf ball.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
Way lighter.

Speaker 3 (02:02:11):
Way lighter, wouldn't carry as far.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
What do you think you could throw?

Speaker 3 (02:02:16):
A baseball.
No no, golf ball 80.

Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
I mean, we have a way to find out.

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
Yeah, that's what I'm curious 80.
80.

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
80 yards Over under you, going over under you're
going over under.
I'm trying to think 80 yards.
I'm comparing it to baseballhere, just think about a smaller
ball.
I'm thinking smaller ball.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
I'm saying over.

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
I'm thinking third baseman to first.
Yeah, I'm going to say overokay.

Speaker 3 (02:02:44):
I would I used to be able to throw a baseball the
length of a football field.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
I'm thinking of what I can throw out here, because
what I have thrown out heretesting it and I know you can
throw it farther than I canlike- that If you let me run
into it and grow up, I couldprobably hey, we're going to go
find out here in a minute.
No, no no One step throw.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
One step.

Speaker 1 (02:03:00):
There's a step.

Speaker 3 (02:03:07):
Yeah, but what's know ?
I mean it's a shot.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
But that's so.
I'm thinking from Matt to GreenPole.
It's 75.

Speaker 2 (02:03:17):
It's probably further than you think, like you.
Just you look out there andyou're like, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:03:20):
Oh, I could throw it further than Green Pole.

Speaker 1 (02:03:21):
Like I've thrown it to theGreen Pole.
That's why I know I can do that, so I could probably throw.
I mean, I think you okay.

Speaker 2 (02:03:28):
Update on next podcast.
We're going to find out in aminute.

Speaker 1 (02:03:31):
Yeah, we'll find out a hundred.
Get that arm ready, startgetting, start getting the
joints going.

Speaker 2 (02:03:37):
Tyler's got to kick some field goals.

Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
You said you were looking forward to late nights.

Speaker 3 (02:03:40):
We're giving you a late night.

Speaker 1 (02:03:41):
I know, yeah, what field are we going to do that on
?
We'll find one.
It's going to have to be inRosman.

Speaker 2 (02:03:51):
We can do that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:53):
We can do that Actually.
Yeah, they're underconstruction, aren't they?
Yeah, there it looks.
I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:01):
Well.

Speaker 3 (02:04:02):
I'm tapping out.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
Combine them be done.
Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (02:04:10):
I have nothing else to talk about.
I got to fight about NASCAR forlike 20 minutes.
That was awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:04:13):
You would love that part.
That was my favorite part.
Listen, Tyler and I fight aboutNASCAR.
We fought about NASCAR a coupletimes.
For somebody that doesn't watchNASCAR, he sure likes to give
me a hard time about NASCAR forsome reason.

Speaker 3 (02:04:23):
I generally do agree with Tyler on a lot, but I do
disagree with you on that.

Speaker 4 (02:04:30):
It's about time I get somebody on my side around here
You're, brian, listen, brianwas on your side.

Speaker 2 (02:04:34):
Brian was on my side on most stuff too, except the
baseball thing.
You guys are just killing me onthat, but regardless, as long
as you stay on my side, you'rewelcome back.

Speaker 3 (02:04:44):
Thank you, I'm playing the game too.
Oh, of course I know that Davidlikes what you said and I'm
welcome back, so yeah, he's gotas long as I whatever David says
is the gospel about NASCAR.

Speaker 2 (02:04:56):
I'm allowed to come back.
Just agree with me on NASCAR.

Speaker 1 (02:04:59):
We don't care about nothing else boom, get in your
truck and leave.
I don't care, there were 10minutes in, I'm kicking you out,
yeah no but it's, it's beenanother fun episode.
Thanks will for being here and,uh, we'll see you guys next
week.
Yep, thanks everybody forlistening.

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