Balls, Brackets, and Breakfast Foods: The Sports Podcast That Doesn't Take Itself Too Seriously

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
welcome back to the non-mean podcast here with tyler
and david.
Once again, you don't get twoweeks in a row of your name
first, just gonna throw that outthere oh come on last week is
honestly an accident.
I just went with it, so it justkind of rolled on.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know, I listened back to it and I was like
something sounds great.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
It just sounds really good.
But thank you guys for joiningus again.
We're back for like week 19 or20 or we're somewhere in those
that region.
But real quick, I Real quick.
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(00:50):
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700 Old Hendershaw Highway,brevard, north Carolina, doing a
lot of fun stuff.
I know they just started abasically March Madness style
golf league.
Yep, two years in a row.
Yeah, so tournament style, alot of fun, competitive,

(01:12):
something different instead ofjust out here.
You know you hit balls into afield.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, we're gonna get more fun we got a lot of stuff
like the guys that go home thefirst night don't like it as
much, but play better, be better.
That's all I got to say.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I'm sorry come back here, practice next year you're
better for the tournament,that's right, but no, it's.
It's a lot of fun hanging outwith with a lot of these guys
and just seeing like this ismore than just coming here
practice like it becomes acompetitive and a game
atmosphere and you know a lot ofguys are enjoying it and
there's money on the line to win.
I mean winter's.

(01:43):
Winter's going to go home with$500.
$500.
That's a good price $100 foryour team to enter, so $50 a
person because it's two mainteams.
Winter's going to go home.
Basically $200 for each person.
That's a good price, $500.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I mean we're doing first, second and third place
prizes, so it's got to be backout here because we're getting
college night going.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
College night is back .
Brevard College is going to beback on property which they
always bring a ton of people,but it's always fun.
They will be out here and thisplace will be slated.
Slightly packed, which is ablast.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Turn on the music.
Love having those guys out herebecause they are super
appreciative.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
That is a group I never expect to be as kind and
nice as they are.
That is a group I never expectto be as kind and nice as they
are.
Like they come out here andthey're super respectful.
They for the most part pick upafter themselves Like they're.
They don't leave it trashed,they don't like it's.
It's actually been a fun groupto to get to partner with and
see kind of that that grow andall the stuff that we've done
with them.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, and actually so before we've done college night
monthly, we're gonna do itweekly, right now for like the
next six weeks or something likethat.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, which is exciting, I think.
I think the kids will love it.
They, because every time we doit, they're like, hey, when are
we doing it again?
I'm like it's not up to us.
Like you got to talk to yourpeople you know we'll do it.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
The biggest challenge when we have college night out
here.
We get the speaker on, we getthe music going.
So what music do you play?
I never know like.
You have all these playlists onSpotify we always do clean
music.
We do.
Yeah, we're family-friendly.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Family-oriented family place.
So we're always going to thinkof that.
But there's not just a greatgo-to playlist, no, that, you
just let it run.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's when you find something good.
There's always some stuff inthere that's you know too old,
or the kids don't know.
And I said kids like I'm someold man, I'm not that old man
I'm not that old yet I'm 35.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Okay, you're 30, you will be 39.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's several months away.
That's not that far.
That's several months away.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
You're getting old.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Listen, my dad told me a while back, he's like
making a joke about getting old.
He's like you're getting closeto middle age.
I said, if I live to be 100,middle age isn't until 50.
That's true, so I am still good.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
That's optimistic.
For who?
Not for me?
I'm good.
That's optimistic.
I'm good In this day and age100 is not likely.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
So you're telling me I'm going to die young.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, you're not young.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
You're not young now, so you already missed that I
guess I got to go, I got to dosome stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I got to go get the bucket list.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I gotta go get some sub-dives, since you're telling
me I'm old and I might dietomorrow, I mean wow, I didn't
say tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Jeez, that escalated way quicker than it should have.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I was just saying, you know, a hundred tomorrow.
What's I mean?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
You got.
That's a big difference.
Like we're getting a littlenegative there.
Okay, geez.
Sorry, I get a little dramaticsometimes, you don't say.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
You don't say my wife tells me that a time or two.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I can imagine.
I can imagine.
Yeah, so college night's backon property.
We've got tournament starting,now Cobra's back in April.
They'll be back here for kind ofa very minimal event.
Basically, the first time theywere here a few weeks ago was

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way better than most peoplethought it was going to be.
That we had to reschedule asecond week this month because
not everybody got in that wantedto get in.
So, yeah, I think there'sactually one slot open still.
So if you're listening andyou're wanting to check out some
of the newest Dark Speed Adaptline of Cobra, we will have it

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here about 1 o'clock thisSaturday and then again at the
end of April.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
April 26th.
We're going to be busy thisSaturday with we've got an
opening day in Little LeagueApril 26th.
We're going to be busy thisSaturday with.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
We've got opening day and Little League.
Yeah, yeah, that's going to bea busy day.
I'm already thinking aboutbouncing back and forth between
100 places.
Yep, I'm going to be out there.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Starts at 8 that morning, right early that
morning and got a home run derbymy daughter's in and game.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Well, so that all starts at like eight, 30.
We have to be there Eight 30 iswhat they're stating, and then
that all starts at nine 30.
Your team doesn't play tilllike five 30 to five, five.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, we got to be there at like eight 30 home run
Derby at 1130.
And then when her team don'tplay till five, yeah, and then
it's like all right well I guesswe'll go.
I'm gonna find something to godo something I don't know I'm on
the board with t-ball we're.
We play at 10 30, so like we're10, 30 and go home, you're out
yeah, we're.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
We're pretty pretty in and out.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
So we was talking a minute ago.
I think you need to share alittle bit with the people about
your your T-ball team you'recoaching this year.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
There ain't much to share.
It's hey guys, let's make itthrough.
I mean it's Well.
So what is this?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, I guess technically Four through six is
what my team is.
I only have, you don't have anythat are still three, that are
almost four.
No, because I know they canplay two.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
All of mine are either just turned four or have
been four, and then my oldest issix, so you got a little older
kid that can help.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I have one and he's never played before oh well,
that's a lot of kids, so it'snot like.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
I've got this team.
That is just all kids that haveplayed.
I mean, which, my youngest?
He's never played before.
This is his first year, he'sfour, but I first year he's four
.
Um, but we, I mean, we do a lotof stuff at home.
He, he loves to hit and throwand whether it's basketball,
baseball, whatever, he's alwaysdoing something.
But, yeah, a lot of the kidsyou can tell, like, the first

(07:34):
time they picked up a baseballis when I handed them one at the
first week of practice, andthey're like those are what I do
.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I haven't done that in several years, yeah, and now
I've little boys that will begetting older.
I'm not a baseball guy.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I love baseball.
Baseball is an awesome sport.
I love it, I love to watch it,I love to talk about all that
stuff.
I was never really a baseballguy, so I don't teach it.
That's not my go-to.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I'm going to be.
You know, I've done softball solong.
I'm going to be trying to teachmy boys softball stuff which is
similar, but I'm going to haveto learn.
You know the differences.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
A little more.
Get back in that mindset ifthey decide to pitch.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
That's where it's going to be very different for
you because y'all have done somuch softball pitching to teach
baseball, pitching and softball,because it's natural but it's
not natural.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Arm movement is the problem.
It's natural how you throwthings.
But then with baseball when youstart figuring out where the
arm slot is and how the hand,there's just very difference.
Especially when you've done somuch with softball and all the
private coaching y'all have donewith your daughter.
None of that really applies,because it's such a different

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movement those are so verydifferent.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Speaking of that, I was thinking about this.
So my daughter had a pitchinglesson tonight and I think I've
told you a little bit about theguy.
Yeah.
So he played baseball right atthe edge of minor you know he
was AAA or right at the edge ofmajors.
I mean his daughter playedsoftware, coached software.
But I'm telling you, you, theguy is the greatest coach I've

(09:06):
ever been around, just both with.
You know, teaching life, butteaching softball I mean we went
in there tonight, we was therean hour and I think he fixed
anything.
You could think every I meanlittle like he just looked and
little things like, oh, do this,oh, yeah, here's what you're
doing.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
That's just, and nothing against him.
But there are just some peoplethat that's just how it works oh
, he's like there's somethingthat you just can.
you just see things differently,and it's for different sports.
I mean, obviously for himbaseball, softball, like he's
he's good at seeing that.
But I mean I've had coaches ofdifferent sports that I'm like I
don't even know if you know howto do this, like they may be

(09:45):
super good playbook or or it'sjust super good with people, but
then as far as like actually beable to teach how to do
something, they just never werevery good at that.
And then I've had the veryopposite coaches that literally
anything you go to them withlike hey, I'm struggling with
this, well, it's because of thisthis with like hey, I'm

(10:09):
struggling with this, what'sbecause of this, this, this and
this?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
and it's like, okay, I never even knew that was a
thing, let alone that I need towork.
I mean, he, he relates stuffback to god and the bible even
too, which I enjoy as well, andjust talks about, you know,
tying everything to life andsoftball.
And and he was saying somestuff tonight and I was like man
, you're speaking to me likethere was things that happened
with me on the softball fieldthese past few days or whatever,
and like he would say somethingrandom.
I'm like, dang, that's right inline with what I'm having what
I'm trying to do about that now,and it's just, and and I mean I

(10:33):
, it's keith troutman.
If anybody needs a softballcoach, keith troutman, he's
house of power and mills river.
He's, he's not there all thetime.
Is there some dude's amazing,and I mean there's some other
baseball guys there too that aregreat.
But I deal with some of theguys, but just want to throw
that in there because I mean Iwas amazed.
I mean I've been amazed severaltimes, but tonight was like wow

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, that's good stuff.
So maybe you need take yourT-ball team up there.
Nope.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Let him just work.
Let's work with all the T-ballteam.
Listen, I told you before westarted I've got one kid in
particular.
He's never played anything,anything at all, like he's never
stepped foot on any kind offield, never touched.
It doesn't feel like he's eventouched a ball Like day one.
When I handed him one it was aforeign object.
He's a little ways from needingthe private coaching.
He just needs to get someimmersion first, maybe, maybe

(11:29):
it's good to just be outside andtouch grass.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, maybe you should give some private lessons
outside of your practicesBasketball.
Sure, I can do that.
No, you can do basketball.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I can do basketball.
I've done basketball.
I did private lessons forbasketball.
That's been several years ago,but I did that for a while but
baseball no, you know, I'mamazed.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I've tried to use before in different instances,
whether it's batting or whatever, and be like or we're pitching
too this way.
But you know, hey girls, haveyou ever skipped a rock?
And they're like no, no, I'mlike well, they're like no, no,
like well, that'll work nevermind.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Let me think something else the these are the
ipad.
Babies like these are the thescreen, like the screen kids.
That's what that's how theygrew up is, which it can be
fault on our own as parents or,you know, even like I have to
say good or bad, but at the sametime, sometimes it's good but
unfortunately, the waytechnology has moved, you just
have to know it.
You have to there.

(12:23):
Well, we're just not going touse technology, then you're not
going to know how to do anythingbecause everything is switched
to that.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
There's nothing paper , so it's all that you know,
both of our kids went to aChristian school for a few years
.
Wasn't real long, but theydidn't use computers there.
And when my daughter switchedout of there back into a public
middle school and they usecomputers, correct, she kind of
had to figure it out a littlebit.
She's a little behind and Ididn't realize because the, the,
the Christian school, was kindof ahead on uh several learning.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Learning, yeah, as far as the computer stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, curriculum, that's the word I was trying to
look for, um, but then you don'trealize.
Yeah, the world uses technologyand so if you're not using that
, you're falling behind.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
So fortunately, my oldest still being elementary
school, he's third grade.
They're using it and he'slearning it, but that's kind of
the year that they kind ofstarted officially.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
So he didn't miss a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Before that, but not a ton.
So, no, he's not really missedit much.
It there's a little bit beforethat, but not a ton.
So no, he's not really missedit much.
So it's a little bit easier forhim Because I know, like you
talk about, they do keyboarding,they do this and this, but it's
the time they're starting tolearn it.
Three years from now it's muchmore difficult.
It is.
You've got to have it, whichObviously your daughter's plenty
smart to handle that.

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It's just figuring some thingsout.
Oh yeah, she got it quickly.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
It was just oh.
Now I have to do it this way,right?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
So different On her computer, did she?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
fill out a bracket.
She did fill out a bracketactually, but I don't know what
it said.
She had to do it at school.
Really, they didn't want it atschool.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
They didn't want school.
They didn't want to school.
Okay, so to me, either in pe orin math or something you should
have to a bracket.
Yeah, like that, just feelslike to me you should.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
What subject does that fit in?
It could do, it could behistory.
Maybe we're making history heredepending on who wins and who
loses, and we'll make a newsubject.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I don't care, I mean bracketology 101.
Like this listen bracketologybeen on ESPN for a long time.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
They could definitely do it you sound like your buddy
on there that you'd love somuch.
Which one On ESPN Bracketologyguy?
Oh, yeah, lunardi or whateverhis name is Joe.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Lunardi, I'm not a fan.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Well, well, this team should be in.
Hey, they were like the 12thteam left out, like they weren't
even close.
Why are we talking about them?
So all right we're here.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
You brought up the bracket I did bring it up
because it's been sec still hasseven teams.
It's not been as hectic as wethought it could have been it
really hasn't.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
All number ones are still there we haven't seen that
yet.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'm hoping we see some craziness come up in the
next few days.
But you are right.
Go back to what you just saidthe SEC still has seven going to
the Sweet 16.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Seven going to the Sweet 16.
They had eight go the secondround.
Seven move on to the Sweet 16.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
What I will say about this.
So they were good, just goahead and say they were good.
Negative, negative, negative.
Go ahead Ole Miss.
I'm not sold on yet.
If they beat Michigan State, Ithink Michigan State's a solid
team.
I can start to maybe say that.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Okay, so if they beat Michigan State, they're good.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
They beat North Carolina, who played one game
all year where they didn't looklike North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
But here's the deal when Ole Miss beat North
Carolina, North Carolina wasplaying like the dream team.
So I think, I think Ole Missbeat the dream team.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
You can't play one game a season, really well, and
be like, hey, we're the dreamteam, like that was the meme
going around.
But if Carolina plays fourminutes in the first half of
good basketball, they could winthat game.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Who was it Carolina beat that night?
I can't even remember now.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
In the first four.
I can't even remember now Inthe first four.
Yeah, san Diego State, maybethat was part of it.
Good chance, very good chance,which Carolina shot the ball.
Well, that game it was thefirst time all year.
But this looked like what wesaw from Carolina all year, like
they're not a first half team.
They come out second halftrying to get hot and it's like
too little, too late.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
You can't do that every game.
I expected several SEC schoolsto move on.
We set the under over at fiveand a half.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I think of what you said.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I said I expected eight or more to go second round
and eight went.
I'm probably a little bit moresurprised that seven still hung
on to go to the Sweet 16.
And Arkansas beating St John'sis one that really surprised me.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
So that's really the biggest upset I feel like we've
had.
We've had a couple of lowerseeds win, but it didn't feel
like it was as much of an actualupset that one felt to me like,
hey, that's a pretty big upset.
Well, what I'll say?
Arkansas beating Kansas, that'sa good first-round win.
Arkansas beating St John,that's a great second-round win.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Do you think, st John , that's a great second round
win.
Do you think, st John?

Speaker 1 (17:07):
was seeded too high, I don't.
I think St John's a good team.
You think they were that goodProbably the last number two to
me in my mind.
You gotta think they play in adecent conference with UConn
Creighton.
They play some good teams.
They won 30 games this year.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's hard to do in whatever league you play in 30
is a lot, because you do havenon-conference.
Now, to be fair, isn't theirleague all out now?
Now they are, yes.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
So they did play good , but UConn lost to Florida.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I don't really say by two, it was really more by five
.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
They hit a three at the end, which meant nothing.
Florida is predicted by a lotof people to win it all.
So you know, whatever Creightonlost to Auburn another team
that's one of the better chancesto win it all.
So I mean, two of those were tonumber ones and we're going to

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show you why we're here.
It's been a little bit easy forsome of them so far, so I'm
hoping this week we see a littlebit of trouble.
I'm excited that Kentucky'sstill in it.
If I'm Florida, I'm telling therefs hey, watch for the travel
Because they play Maryland.
Oh yes, I saw the last secondshot.

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I saw all of it going down howthey beat Colorado State.
I didn't actually see the shotuntil just a couple days ago.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
So I'm going to take what I told you earlier.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well, really yesterday so.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I watched the replay.
My initial thought is hetraveled.
And I went back and watched itagain and I said well, okay,
maybe they're counting that agather step.
That's the only way I couldcome up with.
He didn't travel.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
But in college basketball there is no gather
step.
We do not start a gather stepuntil the NBA.
High school and college is bothtwo steps If college doesn't
have gather step the mantraveled.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
There's no way around it.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
He takes three very large steps and then shoots the
ball.
Great shot.
Don't get me wrong.
For him to hit the shotcontested the way he did great,
but he really only got that shotbecause he traveled.
Yeah, I mean To me it wasn't a,it was not one that we should
miss.
That's the thing that's an easyone, but again, again, a travel

(19:26):
is not reviewable.
We can't go back and overturnnope, sorry, he traveled.
They're not going to overturn agame based off of that.
You're going to be upset andyou're going to say you know,
we're going to petition to thencaa and they may even come out
and say, yeah, they missed thecall and that's as far as it
goes, like there's nothing elseso was that?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
were they tied before that?
I can't remember.
Were they going to to go inovertime?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
No, Maryland was down by one.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's right, that shot won the game.
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
It was 71-70.
They hit it to win.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
That would be tough to take Now.
I'm sure we could go throughthat game film and find travels
or fouls or whatever on theother team that didn't get
called.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
You can always go back and watch film and find
stuff that wasn't called.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, so it's hard to just say that one play.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
But when it's in that big of a moment, I know a lot
of refs are like well, we don'twant to be the reason that a
game did this or this, but thatwas a blatant one.
This was not a close one.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
So do you think the ref was kind of afraid to call
it?
Like what if I call this andthen I look back at the replay
and wrong?

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I don't know if that ref in particular, but I think a
lot of times, yeah, refs arelike I don't want to make this
call now because it's too big ofa moment.
Yeah, then that just means themoment's too big for you and you
don't need to be.
You don't need to be there,like it's because you're gonna
get as soon as you go back andlook and it's like he pins it on
his hip and takes a step.
Okay, well, in college that'sstep one, but then he takes two

(20:42):
steps.
So, by rule of college, it'sthree.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I do think the official gets less heat by
letting it go and saying Imissed it than if he calls it
and was wrong, and was wrong.
And that's where I think theydo it.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I agree, but to me it's like a travel is really not
a hard call, that's not onethat's really much up for debate
, especially when you get intocollege, when you get into NBA
and you have to really startlooking at gather which.
I hate the whole gather rule.

(21:15):
I think it's so stupid.
And even then those guys willgather and then still take three
steps.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Like six steps.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
There's so many videos that you can go watch of
the NBA, and these guys areshuffling their feet and they're
they're switching their pivotfoot from heel to toe, which
you're not supposed to like.
They do all these things to me.
Until they start making thosekind of calls in the nba and
cleaning up some of the game, Idon't think we're going to see
the game actually get better isthat going to start trickling
down to college?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
because yes, well, I was gonna say I feel like I see
a lot more travels not called,especially on breakaway dunks.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
You still they still it, or something highlight plays
especially as well as I thinkyou're not going to see it
because they they don't want toruin a highlight, because that's
what today is.
Today is all about highlights.
It's all about, you know, theflashy, this, the flashy that
you know.
Fine, I understand.
That's kind of how the game hasshifted.
I'm okay with with thehighlights, but not well, I
don't want to ruin a highlight.
I don't want to call a chargebecause now we messed up a

(22:08):
highlight dunk.
Or I don't want to call atravel because we mess up a play
.
It's like, well, if you didsomething, wrong.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
You did something wrong.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, but again, you made the statement before we
started.
One thing you feel like you'venoticed more was moving screens.
Every screen, a moving I thinkthat is something that's
trickled down from the nba andI'll say that on my own team
because they've been doing thatfor years in the nba.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
A guy curls around guys trailing and they stick
that hip out and I'm like allright, their feet stay still,
but that hip comes out prettyfar but goes really out there
and I'm like all right, isn'tthat right there?

Speaker 1 (22:42):
what you're saying, hey, we can't do Supposedly, but
in like an NBA.
Well, if a star does it can'tcall foul on a star.
You know that's what.
Just play the game the rightway.
If you're a star, you're stillgoing to be a star and the
players will adjust to it.
If you start calling thosetravels and those moving screens
, the players will adjust,everyone will adjust, except for
LeBron James, because he'lljust cry about it.

(23:03):
That's true.
He'll retire soon, we don'thave to worry about it.
Which I will say Bronny'splaying better.
I've seen some little clips.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
He's playing better.
I don't really watch him.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
And I'm not saying Bronny's going to be anything
special.
If he continues the path, hecould give himself some minutes.
I mean he could earn it.
He could do better.
I'm okay with that, but I justfeel like we did it wrong from
the beginning.
You know, we we just did it offof well.
Lebron was playing with his sonyeah like.

(23:33):
That, to me, was the wrong wayto do it.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Lebron made it that way it was his own doing correct
, so he can't whine about it now.
But but let's don't get too faraway, because my Kentucky
Wildcats are going to the Sweet16.
The first year Mark Pope wasthere.
First team in NCAA history tomake it this far with no
returning players from the yearbefore.
I'm excited about it.

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I think they're going to winthe championship.
Here we go, let's go.
You played two bad teams.
Let's go, we're winning it all.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
We'll see after this week.
Don't ruin my moment.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
You already told me I'm going to die tomorrow.
Don't ruin my moment.
We're winning the championship.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
You beat Troy.
So Most people are going to sayI thought that was a story from
Roman and Greek times.
They're not going to know thatthat was a school.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I would not have known what you just said, so I
would have known the schoolfirst.
That's just in your mind, youare uncultured.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
And then they played Illinois, who has been just
absolutely up and down allseason.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Illinois is one of those.
If they got hot they could beatyou.
If they didn't, you had achance they could lose to
anybody.
It's just one of those teams.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I kind of feel that way about the whole Big Ten
though.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Visej, he hit 5-3, so I was a little worried about
him.
I was like, well, somebody,please step out on him a little
bit more Now.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I'll say this Kentucky plays Tennessee.
They have beat Tennessee twicethis year.
Yeah, but it's going to betougher.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
It's a different level in the tournament it's
going to be tougher.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
So I don't personally think they beat them.
I don't think they do.
I think Tennessee is going towin that game.
I think it's just a differenttime.
I mean, it's hard to beat ateam three times in a season.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
It's very hard.
We're winning the chip righthere we're winning all the way
You're also on the same side as.
Duke, I don't care as much as Iam.
We beat them once.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
We got it when you actually had healthy players.
I don't care, listen, half theguys that played in that game
early in the season aren't evenhealthy.
That's very true.
So I don't see that happening.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
No, I really didn't expect Kentucky to go this far
because of injuries.
I thought that was a decentteam, but they don't have
big-name players big stars.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
They're injured.
I think if they were the threeon any other side, they probably
wouldn't be no, no, they'replaying good.
I mean looking at the three onthe other side they might have
UNC Wilmington Drake.
They could probably beat thatone.
I don't think they beat BYU thesame way Wisconsin did.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
That's Mark Pope's old school.
So think about this this waskind of unique and I've seen
this going around, where itseems like every team won.
So Calipari everybody saysCalipari left Kentucky.
He got told to go ahead.
He didn't leave Kentucky.
Technically he left.
No, he didn't.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
He chose to take the interview even after he said he
was going to stay.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
No, so he took the interview.
Kentucky founds out he took theinterview and says you violated
your contract.
We don't have to pay you buyoutanymore.
Go ahead and go.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, because he's hurting for the money.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
And then he backs up and says I don't know, I really
would like to stay.
And they say, no, you'vealready broken it.
Go ahead and go.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
It was time anyway, it was definitely time, but so
Cal went to Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Arkansas is in Sweet 16.
Where can we?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
send Hubert Davis.
It's time, I don't know.
It's time Maybe we'll findsomewhere.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
So Arkansas made it Sweet 16.
Pope comes to Kentucky theymake Sweet 16.
Byu, where Pope leaves, hires anew coach.
They made it Sweet 16.
They made it, so it was likeall three schools got what they
wanted.
It felt like I think the guy atBYU is who their biggest donor
wanted Correct, so he got abunch of money.
They got like the number onekid signed for next year already

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.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
He's been signed for a while.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, at BYU, I mean whatever, but it seemed like
everybody got what they wantedand I think that's very rare for
first-year coaches having tobuild teams in the NIL area.
Now, does that help new coachesor hurt them?
Because you're going to loseall your players because they
can transfer, but you can alsogo to all these other schools
and get players, so I don't knowwhich way it goes.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
To me it depends on how good you are at playing the
game.
Are you good at the NIL game,like Cal is, I guess?
If you're good at that, whichwith what he did I don't know
how great he was he kind of justtook most of his team with him,
like there are some other guysthat came but he took a lot of
Kentucky with him.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
No, I agree with that , it's a little bit different.
He took those and the kids thatwere coming to Kentucky with
him, correct?

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, he didn't do as much of the hey I'm bringing
you know from all these otherschools.
It was kind of a lot of what.
Again, cal's a great recruiterso I'm not really questioning on
that side.
But yeah, if you're good atplaying the game, you can put a
team together.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Well, that's what I think is so impressive about
what Mark Pope did.
Nobody expected him to doanything, first of all, but this
Kentucky team is made up fromkids from like name a school, I
mean random schools that justbrought them together, and so
I'm excited about it.
We're winning the championship,connor, right now he's winning
the championship.
That's just a fan bias thing,though.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
No, it's not as a fan .
We're going to win, they'regoing to win.
As a fan, I want to fire HubertDavis.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Let's send him, we'll wait.
Left McNeese or whatever.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Where's that New State?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, let's just send him up there.
I mean never mind, no, he'sdoing a good job.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
You want him to stay.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
The only place I'd be okay sending him is Duke.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
No, Listen, he needs to be back as an assistant.
He doesn't need to be leading aprogram.
No, look, we don't Listen.
After today we do not have apoint guard on the roster.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, I'm glad you brought that up because people
have been trying to tell you allyear long that the players are
not getting it done.
Hubert Davis finally stood upand said this man's not getting
it done.
He's out.
We're going to get somebody toplay somebody to get it done.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, I highly doubt Hubert's the reason he's leaving
, other than the fact thatHubert doesn't know how to do
NIL Now wait a minute.
Hubert doesn't know how to doNIL Now wait a minute.
Hubert Davis is the reason he'sleaving, but it's probably not
his words, Not him saying hey,you need to go.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
He probably said I don't want to play for you, no
more, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
I just feel like it's if Hubert would have took over
10 years ago pre-NIL, he maybehad a shot.
I think it's too far past him.
I don't think he's willing to.
The only reason I think so,then, is because at that time
you still had people comingthere to play there, because
it's carolina, because we justwant to be there, because

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carolina, I guess.
Yeah, the same way people wentto kentucky but he's still gonna
coach him place yes, but youhave people that are bought in
differently.
These kids are bought in nowbecause they are literally
bought in do?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I can answer that coach them, coach them.
You know I got made fun of formy accent the other day by one
of the girls on my team.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I make fun of you guys for your accent all the
time, so that's nothing new.
That's so rude, but I'm gladthese children are picking up on
it.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
But I didn't say anything.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
even that country I don't even know where she said
it, but you say stuff all thetime and anymore.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I just I used and I won't get no sense was where you
were.
I said where you were.
That's not country.
There's nothing country aboutthat.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
But you probably said it country.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I said it just like I just said it when you were.
Maybe that's exactly how I saidit.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's kind of out of context at this point, so it's a
little different.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
But it's so funny when 12-year-olds make fun of
you.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Oh, they're the quickest to make fun of you.
They don't care, they're brutal, they they have no remorse with
that, they're just gonna saywhatever they want to say.
They do, which, again, fine, Idon't.
I'm fine with it yeah, itdoesn't hurt my feelings only
when I go home, sit there andthink about what they say and
just cry a little bit.
Is that what you do?
Yeah, you know, just gets toyou after a while when you're,
when you leave your um two-ballpractice.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
You go home and cry for you.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Go sit in your car and cry for a minute before you
can leave no, because they'reacting like ninja turtles, like
our team name is ninja turtles,so that's all they do the whole
time is act like they're.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
They're fighting things yeah, I could see that
being a problem.
Yeah, it is.
You know, I actually wentthrough hindsight 2020 wouldn't
have done that the other day Iwent through all the league
names in our league because wehave 44 teams.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
T-Ball has some names .

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Everything baseball there were some names on T-Ball.
I was like who come up withthese?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
We've got some dino nuggets.
We've got flying fish sticks.
I mean, you name it, we got it.
It's all over the place.
Uncrustables is in there.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I did see that that's in there there, yeah, so I mean
, I do feel that we're lackingon logos.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
We should have done a better job of logos did
somebody create logos?
Well, all the t-ball teams arevery just like.
It's a home plate with the nameI'm like all right, we could
have actual logo we could havehad fun with some logos with
these teams.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I was hoping your jersey would have like
michelangelo on it or something,I think you should have the
four.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
It should just be all four of them like that 's's.
All it should be is four oftheir heads right across the
chest.
You know who that?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
is you?

Speaker 1 (32:07):
don't need to say Ninja Turtles.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
That would be the team I want to sponsor.
Right there, dang right, ninjaTurtles.
I remember having a NinjaTurtles cereal bowl.
You remember those?
Did you ever have one of those?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
No, it looked like a turtle on its shell and you had
its head on the end and youwould like put your cereal in
the middle of it.
It's pretty cool.
No, my parents just tell astory about ninja turtles and
I'm sure brad's gonna rememberthis because we'll.
We'll talk about it after this.
Um about ninja turtle underwearand I wanted some turtle
underwear and, for whateverreason, at that time we also had

(32:38):
um like saloon doors into ourlaundry room.
You had saloon doors in yourhouse oh yeah, I don't know why
this is early 90s.
That's probably the thing backthen, though maybe but I can
remember there is a picture thatmy mom still has of me and my
ninja turtle underwear, cowboyboots and a cowboy hat going

(32:58):
through the saloon doors and sothey talk.
They talk about that usuallyaround the holidays.
That's kind of one of thosethings, things that kind of gets
brought back up.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, we can do without that picture.
We don't need to put that onsocial media.
I was like four, maybe three.
I don't know.
I was little.
I can't imagine you was everthat adorable.
So come on, I am still adorable.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Adorable is a very low level of attraction, so
that's a very minimal thing.
I'm sitting here drinking ayoohoo well, I did make fun of
you a little bit ago.
I called you like seven yearsold because, if it was up to you
, your diet would beuncrustables and yoohoo listen,
I have a iron deficiency.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
There's not enough in there to make it there's iron
in this yoohoo, so I feel likeI'm drinking.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
There's iron in a lot of things.
There's iron in this yoo-hoo,so I feel like I'm drinking my
own.
There's iron in a lot of things.
There's iron in some of thoserocks out there.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Do you want to go eat those?
No, I don't really Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
There's actually probably more in the rocks than
there is in that yoo-hoo, listen.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
So we got to tell a story.
We have a local Dollar Generalthat's at, but it's been there a
long time.
It's in a busy spot but nobodyever stopped there, like.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I didn't stop there.
No, not really Well.
So a local Dollar General isclosing, and so they are in a
everything must go stage.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
They're selling it all off, which is dangerous
because you go in there and youfeel like you're getting
everything half off.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I mean, you are getting everything half off, but
you're spending way more money.
You're still spending a lot.
You know which is?
So we decided, yeah, let's gobuy a bunch of drinks, because
obviously we'll sell the drinks,you know?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
yeah work out great.
Well, we drink, you know, sodasand stuff here at the range or
out here.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
We have, you know like we'll have order pizza or
stuff out here, have drinks withpizza and you know, out here,
working all the time, you justend up wanting something.
So, yeah, we've got drinks inthe fridge.
Well, one.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
The fridge is slam full now but what is it slam
full of?
Is what's funny?
Not?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
what we really were planning on buying, but um, if
you were to open our fridge, youwould think we'd have a red
bulls partnership because it isslam full of red bull and it was
kind of an accident that webought as much as a few monsters
very few we actually shouldhave got more of those.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
We might have to go back and finish loading up well.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
So here's the thing everything they have is half off
.
So being able to buy most ofthese and then like 20 ounce
sodas for just over a dollar,like you're not gonna find that
anywhere else well, we got thered bulls for basically like two
bucks dollar something, becauseit was like a dollar 50 or 70,
I think, or something like thatit was.
It was something really reallycheap.
Now we will sell those out here, especially we talked about

(35:34):
having college night we'reprobably gonna drink them all we
have to sell them out of thefridge tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
That that'll probably do well you're gonna show up to
college night tomorrow night.
I'm gonna be running around.
They're like everywhere.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
As long as you keep your clothes on.
I don't care what you do.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Run around all you want.
Please make sure I keep myclothes on.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Like I said, nobody wants to see that If I start
taking clothes off.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Please cut me off the Red Bull.
Yeah, you might have foundsomething beside Red Bull.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'm not really sure at that point.
But yes, so walking You're likeall right, just go grab another
cart, like you guys had alreadystarted getting a few things.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Just go grab another cart, load it full of drinks.
I have never in my life pusheda cart that was that heavy,
because the cart was literallyto the top with Red.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Bull.
They have small carts Coffees.
Theirs are not the full likeWalmart grocery store big
full-size carts.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
No, but if it was, we would have filled it up.
We would have filled it up.
Yes, we might go back and fillup another one.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
There's a good chance .
I don't know where we're goingto put it, though.
Is the problem?
There's not much room Listen.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Red Bull, buy another fridge.
If you go get a Red Bull everycouple hours tomorrow, you're
going to get all kinds of stuffdone out here here, or I'm gonna
have a heart attack one of thetwo, that's true.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
I mean, I don't really feel like od'ing on red
bull.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
That doesn't feel like that's a very good idea
yeah, that would not, uh be fun,yeah, be like.
Well, what?
What happened to him?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
he had two red bulls I mean it'd take more two, but
yeah, we've got enough in ourfridge.
I could have two a day for awhile.
It'd be perfectly.
You know, I'll save a ton ofmoney.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Haley hates Red Bull.
So I've really never drunk RedBull or any kind of energy stuff
and I mentioned having an irondeficient stuff and I feel tired
, a lot and stuff and I'mfinally I'm like that's it.
I'm just let's drink some RedBull.
I got stuff to do.
I've always said I can sleepwhen I'm dead, so let's just
keep it going.
And now I have enough Red Bullto literally do that, and you?

Speaker 1 (37:26):
wonder why I say you're not making it to 100.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
No, these are going to help me get there.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Absolutely not.
I don't think Red Bull marketssaying hey, by the way, we're
going to help you live longerWell, maybe they should.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
They market saying we give you wings Well let's see,
I'm almost 39, not quite got afew months, so about another?
What 61 years?
When I turn 100, then I'll goto rebels.
Hey look, we can start thiscampaign because your red bull
helped me get here I don't thinkyou make it that far if you
have that many red bulls.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
But speaking of that, did you hear, have you heard of
that story?
The lady was like a hundred andsomething and she talked about
what made her get there is shehad a dr pepper a day.
I did hear that and she'ssitting there in the interview.
She's mixing it up.
She's got her dr pepper and shesaid my doctor told me to dr
pepper.
Listen, she didn't say thatdoctor told her to drink dr
pepper, but she basically saidthe doctor said don't change

(38:22):
what you're doing by the time DrPepper.
She didn't say that doctor toldher to drink Dr Pepper, but she
basically said the doctor saiddon't change what you're doing.
By the time you're 100 andsomething, do whatever you want.
You've made it a long time.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
You've seen me drink a lot of Dr Peppers, so I think
Dr Pepper probably will offsetthe Red.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Bull.
That's what I think is going tohappen.
I don't think that's how thatworks.
What I think might havehappened to her.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
She got confused, she thought she was at her doctor
and she was really at the DrPepper plant or something and
she's like oh, the doctor toldme, Dr Pepper told me I should
drink these.
Yeah, and of course they do,because you're keeping them in
business.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
You, and that old lady is like some Dr Hipper.
Also going back to thetournament, because I found this
very interesting the first fourgames that were pre kind of the
round of 64.
The worthless games AlabamaState, st Francis was last
second.
Alabama State, hail Marycatches it, tipped around, makes
a layup.
St Francis, the team that lost.

(39:29):
Officially, next year all oftheir sports are going D3.
All the way to D3?
D3.
Why so?
Their president, athleticdirector of the board, all the
people basically came togetherand made a press release stating
that the culture of basketball,the culture of sports, the nil
stuff, the way things are going,they can't upkeep to the level

(39:53):
that everyone else is doing, sothey're just gonna drop.
I kind of could see d2 likeokay, you know, drop out of the
d, but going all the way to d3.
Most of those schools don'toffer scholarships.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Most of those schools like yeah, there's no athletic
scholarships it's a wholedifferent ball game they're just
giving up on athletics ingeneral almost way yeah well,
they'll still have it, but itwon't be anything but that
competitive.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
They've been d1 for a long time, like they talked
about before this year.
The last time they were in thetournament was 91.
So you're you're saying for atleast D1 for the last 30 years,
like that's crazy to just all ofa sudden be like yeah, we're
going D3.
Like we have a local college inour town that's D3.
They can't handle it, that'sthat's a that's a big thing.

(40:37):
They're done with it.
So obviously all those kids Imean D1 talent's not going to
stay at a D3 school Like you'regoing to transfer out, you're
going to go do other things andnot even just basketball, all
the other sports, like they'regoing to lose all of those.
So everybody next year is goingto be somebody new.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Or the kids on the end of the bench.
That really couldn't make it.
Most of them probably go playD2 somewhere.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Some of them will be stars, Maybe I basketball I mean
.
They were two points away fromwinning, so they were in the
tournament.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
No, I guess they didn't win their conference
right, Because then they wouldhave been in the 64.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
They won the conference championship.
They made it for winning theconference championship.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I thought you was in the top 64 for that, not
necessarily.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
No.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Wow, see, that's weird.
I didn't realize that.
I thought you was in the top 64automatically for winning the
conference championship, so theyjust had to put you in.
You could still be a play-ingame Technically.
Yes, gotcha.
Well, still, you won yourconference champion, you're the
champion of your conference.
And then you say see you guys,I'm out.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
We're just going to leave.
Yeah, because they were fourthin their conference, they ended
up winning their tournament.
Yeah, yeah, that's how they gotin and then almost make it into
the actual main draw of thetournament.
And now they're hey, we're D3.
Now, yeah, officially 2026.
Yeah, I don't.

(41:51):
That to me doesn't make sense.
Apparently, it's happened atleast one other time.
There's a story that popped up,but I'm still confused by how
you can just go from D1 to D3.
Doesn't make much sense.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
I think there's got to be more behind it than that
Sounds like From D1 to D3?
.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Doesn't make much sense.
I think there's got to be morebehind it than that.
It sounds like the budgets arenot good If you have to make
those kind of I mean you'retalking about all athletic
scholarships across.
Who knows how many sports theyhave.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
So it sounds to me like they went out and bought a
bunch of players this year towin their conference tournament
and they don't have enough moneyto pay them now.
They're like oh, we're out guysyeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
It's just one of those.
That, to me, is just a veryweird story, how you go from hey
guys, we're in the biggesttournament there is, to now
we're not even playing foranything.
We still care.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I think about this.
I don't think it'll happen withbigger schools, but as schools,
you know whenever it getsfinalized that schools are
paying the players themselves.
So, like what happens toplayers in this instance, who
we're going to pay you so muchmoney oh sorry guys, we're out
of money, we're out, we're goingto D3 or find bankruptcy,
whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
What happens to these athletes now?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
because they are employees at that point.
So if it's done in ourcontracts, I mean they'll have
to be money.
If you file bankruptcy andagain I don't know how a school
file, yeah but bankruptcydoesn't cover literally
everything.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
It covers a lot, but it's not just a get out of jail
free card like if there it's,there's a lot of things that
still you would have to be iableto pay.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I mean, you could sue me right now if you wanted, but
you ain't going to get much outof me, so it wouldn't really
matter.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
No, I mean.
So that, to me, is where thebiggest advocate for contracts
in some way shape or form Idon't care if it's with the
school, whether it's with thecollective, whether whoever.
To me, it makes more sense thatthe school pays this stuff.
Have that, the school pays thisstuff.
Have a little more control,like we talked about in the past
.
To me, even then, it's easierto follow the paper trail.
Yeah, I think so, but I thinkit should be contracts.

(43:50):
I think it should be whetherand, in my mind, if we're going
to do it this way, do it likeall the pro leagues do.
Here's this much guaranteedmoney within your contract.
If you do these things, you getmore money.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, that makes more sense.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
It's incentives to play because there's so many
schools.
When that happens, these guysjust kind of give up.
They've already got their money.
Who cares when that happens?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
do players make more money or less money?
Because I think they're goingto make less money.
That way, I don't think schoolswill have to pay as much,
because right now you can tellwhatever number you want and say
this school offered me so much,so you need to offer me more.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I think there will be potential for more money with
the incentives.
If they do it that way, if theygo the incentive route, with
the incentives I think there'spotential for more money Doesn't
mean they'll actually make moremoney, because I think the
guaranteed money will go way waydown, but then all the numbers
are going to be out for real.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Well, I guess I always wonder about that.
Like Duke, they don't have toshare a lot of information
because they're a private school, so are they going to have to
share what they pay theirplayers, or not?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Because a lot of other colleges will, because if
you're an employee of a publicschool, They'll have to come up
with something with it, becauseI think they're going to try to
make it even across the board.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
There's no way that you say well, you don't have to
do it, just because you're aprivate school, but then
Carolina would have to do it.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I think Duke doesn't have to technically say what
they pay their coaches.
So I don't know how that wouldwork.
That would be different.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
for sure I don't think they have to, but I think
they do, okay, I didn't know ifthey.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I don't know if they have to, but I think I, public
facing, it would make more senseto go ahead and do it, because
otherwise people are going to bevery, very curious about it.
But even then, public facing,they can report about any number
they want to report.
You can show a number, but isthat really Because, again, you

(45:40):
don't show the incentives,because that's not money that
they're actually getting, untilthey actually get it, so that
that's something that changestoo, which most of these most of
these schools and most of thesecoaches have incentive based
stuff.
The farther you make it, themore money you make.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Duke's current men's basketball coach, John Shire.
Yep, it's under contractextension that runs through 2028
, 29 season, but details abouthis salary are not publicly
available.
So I guess they could do thesame with players.
If they don't change your rule,that would even be hard as a
coach, Like how do you go try tohire him away if you're some

(46:15):
other coach when you have noclue what he makes?
I mean, I guess you knowthere's people around.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
If you were willing to go take the interview.
You're going to tell him whatyou make Because you're going to
probably try to get more theinterview.
You're gonna tell him what youmake because you're gonna
probably try to get more.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I can say he could lie he could say, I mean, he
could- but those guys knowpeople that's what I think.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I think there's people inside the circle,
there's some phone calls likehey, you don't have to give me
exact roundabout, what are y'allpaying him?
Well, that's, if I that's inany in any like the business
world, if there's somebodycoming to try to take you away
from another business, theyprobably know somebody that's
like, hey, are they making $100?
Are they making $200?
What are they at?
I?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
can say if we search enough, there might be somebody
Okay here.
So almost a year and a half agosomebody reported he was making
$7 million, $8 million annually, so there's somebody giving
some guesses.
So private schools I didn'tthink so.
They do not have to report whatthey pay their employees
because they're private.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
No, I mean, obviously the public sector has to report
over certain numbers andwhatever, depending on state law
, even private companies.
A lot of them don't have to,but they still do, like most of
them are, because it's peopleare going to find out, people
are going to figure it out, andthen a lot of times it's almost
better to kind of almost getahead of it, because the
assumption of, well, they'repaying him $15 million, well,

(47:34):
obviously not, like he's notestablished himself as a $15
million.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I agree with that.
I think that with some of theplayers too, it's going to be
better to get out in front of itand just say, hey, here's what
we're paying the player.
You know, we've got the lastnight's no tonight's TGL playing
up on the TV.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, if you've not been following, we're in the TGL
finals this week.
Monday and Tuesday was thefinals.
Today was the final right,correct they had.
Well, it was the second match.
There was a potential that theycould have had a third match
after this one, depending on theoutcome.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Well, so I didn't get to watch it.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Atlanta and New York are in the finals.
Atlanta won Monday One up 1-0.
One by one point it's kind ofworked out that these two teams
are playing the best right now,that's my team.
It's been tight.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
ATL, I'm with it.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Let's go.
It was a tight match last night.
They won by 1.
And I mean, kind of go aheadand spoil it for you.
Congratulations to Atlanta forwinning the first ever TGL
championship.
I don't know what perks orincentives they're getting for
this?

Speaker 2 (48:49):
I don't know either.
There's got to be something,because they wouldn't be doing
it otherwise.
We're watching the playbackhere, so it's already over, but
we're watching it and they'realready on hole 10.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
They're down 2-0.
They're down 2-0.
They're down to nothing.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Some of them are going.
They must have put it togetherhere at the end.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Right there at the end, yeah, which I feel like
that's kind of what they've done.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Maybe threw a few hammers out there to help or
something.
I don't know what they did.
I think that is the most funteam to watch.
That's what drew me to them tobegin with.
I didn't care if they were awinner or not.
The first match I watched withthem, even before they won, I
was like this is a fun team towatch.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Are you going to go buy you a 2025 ATL championship?
I don't know.
I feel like you have to.
That was your team.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
I was concerned they were going to change up people.
But yeah, I guess 2025championship I could do that.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I can't imagine anybody off this team leaves.
Looking at these guys, theyseem to have fun.
It would blow my mind for themto split this team up and less.
Like they were adding moreteams and they need, like,
another captain or somethingalong those lines.
That, to me, is the only way Ithink that team breaks up.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
I think we need the right people to listen to this
podcast, because I need a box ofUncrustables and a carton of
you.
Who's carton that goes I don'tknow what do you call those
things, whatever.
Anyways, you need some Yoo-Hoos, I need some Yoo-Hoos, and I
need an ATL 25 champion shirt orhat or something.
That's what I need.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
You got any guesses on the price of that shirt?
I got it pulled up right herewe talking T-shirt, or what
T-shirt?

Speaker 2 (50:20):
$125.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
That was ridiculous.
No, that's way too high.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Too high, way too high.
I thought their shirts werelike $50, $60 normally.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Not the regular t-shirt.
Oh, okay, they had some polosand like some other shirts that
I don't even think I've evereven seen people wear.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Well, so now.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
The Barstool jersey type shirt was $80.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
The problem is I need these guys to wear these shirts
, and they won't.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Yeah, I think that's something they've got to figure
out.
Moving forward is some type ofuniform based thing.
The one thing Liv does theirlogo is on their stuff.
You may still have sponsorshipswith all these other things,
fine, but our logos, your teamlogo, is going on your stuff.
Or, like all the live guys,they wear the hats and it's like
hey, this is part of yoursponsorship, the the main logo

(51:10):
on the hat.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Is that to be fair?
To be fair, I'm a kentuckybasketball fan.
I have kentucky basketballshirts, pullovers, whatever.
I've never wore kentuckybasketball jersey, so no, maybe
it's similar you're stillwearing that logo, the colors,
like you're.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
You're following those things, like these guys on
all the tgl teams.
They are wearing kind of thecolors but they never wear the
logo.
You've never seen the logo onthese ones.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Tiger's team was the worst.
They're red or different shades.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
They didn't even match red is a harder one, I
feel like, but they should allhave the same shirt.
White's pretty easy.
Blacks can be a little bitdifferent.
New york was navy.
There's not a whole lot ofdifferent forms of navy, no, but
red has a lot of shades even uhboston, they were green, right
yeah, yes and I feel like theydid a good job.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
It was just tiger's team.
Because of the sponsorshipsthey had or whatever, they had
to wear certain things here issomething you could ball marker.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
We always need that.
We always use where you go ballmarkers yeah, but it just
doesn't get a commemorativething, not necessarily like as a
I'm going to use this probablymore than I want.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
To pay for it 20 bucks four pack.
You've lost your money, I thinkI'm paying 20 dollars for a
ball marker.
It's a four pack.
You've lost your mind.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
I think I'm paying $20 for a ball marker.
It's a four pack.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I don't need four ball markers.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
With your team.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
This is your team.
Let's be real.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
If this is really your team, you'll pay whatever
you got to pay.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Let's be real for a minute.
How many times have we walkedup on a green and I didn't have
a ball?
A million times Okay do youthink I'm going to put that in
my pocket?

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I never said you were going to put it in your pocket.
I was just saying that's acommemoration.
Where do you want to put it?
In my bag?
I would almost guess you don'thave one in there.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
I have four of your golf ones in there, maybe a UK
one, I can't remember if it'sstill there or not, do you?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
use it.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
No.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Here's what you do.
You walk up to it.
You say, hey, am I in your way?
I'm going to go right or left.
I'm going to do a putter width,or maybe two putter widths, and
I'm going to stick my tee inthe ground right there.
I'm going to put my ball there.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I hate the tee in the ground.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Well, okay, it doesn't have to be a tee in the
ground, but I can put my ball.
I want nothing in the way, Ilike nothing to be there.
Well, you're a, uh, one ofthese, um, people, people that
care, no, no, no.
You're one of these people thatstill, you know, thinks golf
should just be for men.
And, you know, wear pants wheredid that come from?

Speaker 1 (53:37):
because you can't have a ball in the green no, I,
I don't even think of it as likea well, that's a rule of god, I
don't even think of that.
I like a well, that's a rule ofGod.
I don't even think of that.
I, just when I'm looking at aputt reading a green, I just
like for nothing to be like amarker.
You don't notice a ball or atee.
It's standing up too much.
I just feel like you noticethat.
Listen, I've said many timesalready.

(53:58):
I think it's stupid that PGA iswear pants only.
I think it's the dumbest thingin the world.
Like we go to the hottestplaces in the country in July
and it's like, hey, you got towear pants.
What's the point of that?
I think that's stupid, you know, it's this whole thing.
Well, it's unprofessional towear shorts why they're not

(54:21):
wearing, you know, a pair ofNike gym shorts.
They would still be wearing,like and they don't have nice
stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
It's not like we're telling them they have to wear
shorts.
Give them the option If theguys feel like.
That's to me.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
I'm more of.
It should be up to you.
What do you want to wear?
If you want to wear shorts, doit Now.
Here's what I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Eventually it's going to happen, though.
So this specific item isgetting big and it's kind of
even getting on the dressy sidea little bit.
I'm ready to play golf insweatpants.
Let's do it.
Sweatpants with a pullover.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Jason Day did recently.
I remember that he had asweatsuit.
I think it was at Torrey Pinesand there was a lot of people
that that was an uproar.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Why Didn't somebody wear joggers or something is
that?

Speaker 1 (55:06):
what is that?
Who?
That was.
No, that was a different thing,because that, um, several of
the younger guys have been beeninto joggers and all the older
guys are like, well, that'sunprofessional too.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
You're showing your ankles.
You can't do that?

Speaker 1 (55:16):
how dare you?
That's provocative.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Ankle showing is horrible you need it, the tall
socks back on there, so theankles can't be seen.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, it's just.
It's such an old timey thingthat doesn't make sense.
I mean, at one point they weregolfing in vests and almost like
three-piece suits.
It's like why you know whatit's changed.
Why not change?

Speaker 2 (55:37):
What I've never understood about the nice
dressing.
Even today, if nice dressing,Even today, if you go rent a tux
or you buy a tux, I don't own afull suit or anything I have to
go rent one if I have one.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I don't go anywhere, that I need a suit Agreed.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
What was up with the dress socks the thinnest socks
you could find and they werereal tall, I know the idea was
you had dress shoes and yourankle would be seen.
Why did they have to be thatthin and everything?
I never understood that.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Typically, though, it's because those shoes are
more form fitting.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
So you need more room .

Speaker 1 (56:08):
You can't have a thick sock because it's it's
going to basically mess up theform of the shoe.
That's just weird.
Or just be uncomfortable in ashoe, Like if you, if you have a
tight shoe on and you've got athick sock, that's not a
comfortable thing.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
I think at one point and women are still this way to
an extent, but it was look goodover comfort, Like you had to
look a certain way.
That's what fashion is Agreed.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
I mean, I don't think that's women.
I think in all of fashion it'sall about how you look.
It's not about is it?
But I think it's turning formen a lot, like I said, with the
sweatpants and the pulloversand the hoodies because we're
lazy.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
No, but it's kind of becoming a thing used to you
never seeing people out insweatpants like that, like that
was working out or at home tothe south.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Go to walmart, you'll see pajamas.
Oh for sure, I'm not pajamapaint like not even that.
Go to the local schools.
The amount of just pajamasthese kids wear blow my mind.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Well, sweatpants is another one.
It's huge, blow my mind Well,so for boys, it's sweatpants and
girls.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
It's sweatpants too, but for girls it's the tights
Like leggings, type Leggings,yeah, yeah.
They're wearing that witheverything like year round, and
I can remember, like even backwhen I was in school, like

(57:28):
that's you try to dress nice,like you're trying to impress
people, or what you know,whatever it may be, but but now
that is a very different.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
That is very different.
I'm okay with it.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I wouldn't call that dressing nice.
I just don't think that's afocal point.
The same way like it's popularbut it's not necessarily
dressing nice.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
I don don't know, I'm good, I've thrown my sweatpants
.
I mean, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
You're not the person I'm calling for fashion advice.
Why not Listen?
You're not the person I'mcalling for fashion advice.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Shorts or sweatpants with a nice under armor pullover
.
That's where it's at.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
But that wouldn't be like dressing nice.
If you need to go somewhere anddress nice, that's not.
Not what I would call thatthat's dressing nice.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Okay, fine, I'll break out the, the polo I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
I mean, if you have to legitimately dress nice, I
think you can do that with aquality pair of shorts, but if
you're going to nice, at thatpoint, yeah, it almost feels
like some type of collar is whatthey could deem as nice anymore
.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I feel like the like going out to dinner, date night,
whatever it is for men, is puton your golf outfit.
Yeah, but that's what you werepretty much every like.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
So many of that age have gotten into golf I know,
that's what I mean I mean thethe golf industry surprised me,
but on our golf shoes when weloaded during the pandemic, so
all these people that got intoit never really got out, and
that's what they're buying is?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
it is the golf attire .

Speaker 1 (58:53):
You see that everywhere yeah, it's all the
time I'll go somewhere and I'mlike there's golf polos
everywhere.
That doesn't fit the quarterzips.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
If it's a little, I'm all.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
I'm all on board with the quarter zips.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I am too I love a quarter zip.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
I'm good with that.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I wear one almost every day.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
That to me is a little bit different.
But even then a quarter zipkind of has that collar to it,
so it does look a little bitnicer.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
So that one, I can definitely see what's nice about
a quarter zip, especially ifit's chilly out and you're not
gonna take it off.
You can put any shirt you wantunder it, because nobody's ever
gonna see it.
It doesn't matter.
As long as the top part is alittle nice, you're good so all
the stains are just?
Yeah, just wear an old oldt-shirt with holes in it.
Everything else as long as thetop's good you're good, nobody's
gonna see it, maybe.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
So what you're saying is you wear crop tops under
your yeah, quarter steps.
Yeah, please don't take thoseoff.
I definitely don't want to seethat.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
I wear crop tops all the time.
What are you talking about?
I was laying around with those.
You'll see me jogging down thestreet tomorrow morning.
First of all, you know I ain'tjogging nowhere.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
We ain't going to see you jogging anywhere, I don't
know where.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
That was a definite random comment.
Well, I'm getting shots likecrazy.
Pay me back for last week.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Listen there.
Just don't make it so easy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
You could tell everybody I'm this finely tuned
athlete that's going to live tobe 100.
Instead, you go the oppositeway.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
So what you're saying is I should lie to the
listeners, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
I do not condone lying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I'm not in the business of lying to our
listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I'm going to look at the TV here.
New York is up 3-0 on the 12thhole.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Yeah, and they ended up losing it.
There's three holes left it hadto have been some type of
monumental crash.
Here we go, there goes a hammer.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
There's a hammer throw.
Had to be something right herethat the hammer got them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I really hope they make some changes in the
offseason and we just see somecleaner production, just
everything about it just be alittle bit more on par with
other sports.
I think they will, becausethat's one thing like
professional football,professional basketball, college
of both production-wise they doa fantastic job.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
But they've been doing it for a long time.
Let's don't get PGA involved inthe production.
Oh, they gave the whole up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
That's how they got one thing pga has gotten better,
though, like the productionwise they've gotten better
because which really pga didn'treally produce anything.
It's 40 million networks thatthey part.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
I don't but how hard could it be?
You're just, there's a hundredand some golfers out there just
have a camera on them and you'regood well, I mean pga anymore,
like you're seeing a shot everylike 20 seconds you are.
That's what I mean.
They're just flipping fromgolfer to golfer, to golfer to
golfer you know that's not asport that's easy though because
it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
It's across how who knows how many acres, depending
on the property size, I mean.
So it's not like most sports.
Four to eight cameras,depending on where they're at.
You can get every angle, that'strue, like golf.
You're talking one, it's 18holes, then you're talking tee
boxes and greens, then you'retalking if it's a par four or

(01:01:54):
par five, you've got all thatlaying in the middle.
So I mean cameras alone, you'reinto 50, 60.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
There's got to be a lot out there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Yeah, I mean most of them, especially the guys that
are on TV.
There's a camera groupfollowing them.
There's set up on the tee box.
There's usually set up on thegreens.
There's got to be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
You know I've never been to a live golf event.
I'd like to go to one,especially one that's televised
on ESPN or something big andlet's see.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Because you're right, there's got to be cameras
everywhere.
We can go to Quail Hollow.
They come there every year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Let's go.
It's just Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
I mean, that's an easy trip.
They're having a big tournamentthere this year, if I'm not
mistaken, because a couple yearsago they didn't host it.
It might be hard to get to thebig tournaments, the bigger
one's a little bit harder, butwhen they hold the Wells Fargo
that feels like Rory wins everyyear.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Yeah, I forget that's there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
He's the king of.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Quail Hollow.
I haven't watched most golf yetthis year TGL.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
I've been watching some of that.
I watched Victor Hovland pickup a win this past weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
I didn't even know he won.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Well, I'm surprised you didn't, because he beat
Justin Thomas.
Yep didn't know, beat him by astroke.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Now I mean to be fair .
I spent several hours again onball fields, and all that every
weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
I'm not watching a ton of stuff at the moment
because it's just collegebasketball.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
The tournament takes up so much, especially over the
weekend, because you hadThursday, Friday, Saturday,
Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
For four straight days you just had first two
rounds, especially it starts toslow down as we start to get
into Sweet 16 and beyond, butthe first two rounds you just
have games nonstop.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Yeah, my TV was on basketball From noon until after
midnight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
I mean really.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Well, even I remember Sunday started like right at
noon and went till aftermidnight.
Now they didn't have so manygames on at the exact same time.
They were spread out a littlebit more.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Yeah, I mean after the first round.
It does slow down a little bit,but not nearly the same.
Like this week, will feel muchslower.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
You're saying sweet 16.
There's only eight games.
I haven't even got to finishyet, but I had to.
Sunday night I had to go watchmy nascar race.
I always record those, so I wasdoing that, getting back in.
That's what you know I said Iwasn't.
Uh, they raced can you tell youthat I mean pretty much every
sunday, you know right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
But well, yeah, we did look.
There's a lot of a lot of races.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I'm getting a little more drawn back in as I watch a
little bit and a little bit anda little bit um, yeah, I don't
think you have to worry aboutthat for me.
I need to take you to a race inperson.
I think you'd enjoy that alittle bit more.
I don't still don't know ifyou'd love it, because you don't
love that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
They're not like basically real cars I would say
I don't think I would I likeevents I think I would enjoy the
event.
Well, just loud, fast cars butkind of you know, but it's just
at the same time something likethat.
It's not cars to me, Like it'sjust because you have an engine
doesn't make you a car, loud,fast, anything, whatever it is,

(01:04:52):
you know, it's just it's just alittle bit different.
I don't.
I don't think I would enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I got to take you to a road course.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Is.
Is that what you'd rather watch?
No, no, I mean really likemotorsports, is not.
I'm not just don't have a huge,huge desire for that.
I get it.
That's just not something I'veever really which, again, some
people are just not fun people,the family I grew up in, we
didn't watch any of that kind ofstuff like that.
We were always basketball,football, baseball we've talked
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
That kind of stuff seems to be one that comes from
generation to generation.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Oh, I mean, look, at the fan base they've done better
.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
It just goes, drops down the line I think they've
done better the past few years,bringing in some new audience,
um, but they've also lost an oldaudience who says it ain't what
it used to be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
So they kind of had to say there's a lot of that
crowd just I mean some of myolder family members that I know
that kind of did not myimmediate family, but cousins
stuff that did watch it.
They've been at it for years,cause it's like it's, it's just
not.
You don't have the names thatyou had, you don't have the the
following that some of that usedto have.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
So but that's what every sport, you know, every
sport, the older, but they'll gothrough spurts.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I mean literally every sport.
I mean look at the NFL.
All viewerships down in the NFL, what four years ago?
And now it's as much as it'sever been, if not more.
So I mean which again, the moreyou grow some of the fan bases
in college not always they startfollowing.
Well, my quarterback went hereso I'm going to start watching

(01:06:23):
that team.
That helps for sure To anextent, because some people just
don't like college football.
Some people don't like collegesports in general.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
That blows my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
They prefer pro and to each their own.
They're wrong, but to eachtheir own.
Yeah, I'm exact opposite.
I do think NFL this year couldget me into watching a little
bit more.
I think it was a good seasonthis year.
I think you had somecontroversy there the right
amount.
You had some really good teams,some teams that we thought were

(01:06:51):
going to do better than theydid that didn't.
And I think there's some teamsthat are.
And you look at somebody likeHouston.
Nobody expected CJ Stroud to goto Houston and be back-to-back
playoff team.
They've done it two straightyears and been solid.
And now we're seeing somebodylike Buffalo getting some
defensive stuff.
I mean, we're seeing somegrowth.

(01:07:11):
You're seeing a lot of movement.
So I think NFL, I coulddefinitely see myself coming
back to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
I would like to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
I really would NBA.
It's going to be a while.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
What do you think about this other football league
that's just starting?
They did it last year, but whatis it?
Usfl or AFL, or I don't knowwhat they even call it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
They combined a couple together.
It's just another minorleague-based thing.
The problem with football it'shard to do some type of minor
because if you weren't goodenough out of college this is
where you're going you'reprobably not going to now excel
to the next level.
Very, very, very few of thoseguys have ever even been signed

(01:07:51):
to practice squads.
It's just, I don't know, it'shard to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
There's no fans.
College is probably better thanthat.
Oh, to me, I think, college isa better watch Because college
has better players than theyhave there.
Like you said, said, if youwere a great college player, you
went on to win the nfl.
Yeah, if you didn't, you wenthere and not even all of them
and you've probably been, youknow not playing for a few years
and then went to here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Well, that kind of that statement made me just
think of.
I watched a, a reel the otherday and I was going to ask you
about this and I was waiting forthe podcast.
In your mind, just kind ofthrow this out there, that's
dangerous.
The question was, if you tookone guy from the NBA like how
many of these guys are out therethat you could just take him,

(01:08:34):
put him on one of the worstteams in college basketball and
they could go win it all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
One guy from the NBA, one guy See, I don't watch a
lot of the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
But you're talking like a lebron, a harden a to put
him on any team.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
A guy like that will destroy any of these best of the
best.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
So those are different level.
What team are we putting themon?
What do you mean?
Any on any college team like abad team for the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
For the sake of it, we'll say, saint francis, they
got beaten the first four.
Well, for the sake of it, youput a guy like a james harden or
a any of the top guys.
How many of them do you thinkthere are?
They could go and help them?
Well, how many?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
guys are in the league that could do that again.
I don't watch nba, um, I stillknow of some players and know
who's sure who's pretty goodsuperstars.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
You kind of know whether you're really watching
or not, because you see it onESPN, you see it on whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
See, I'm even thinking of somebody like SGA.
I don't think he could, andhe's good, 100% good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
You think?
He could 1 million percent good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
SGA is one of the best players in the league
currently, but I don't look athim that way.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
You can't guard him.
He leads the league in freethrow shooting.
You can't guard him.
He can score.
He can score 50 a night in theNBA.
What's he going to do incollege If you give him the
skill right now that he has?
There's no way.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Yeah, I mean, I get what you're saying.
I think about Giannis.
Oh, Giannis is 100%.
I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
I think about Giannis .
Oh, giannis is 100%.
Jokic is another one.
Jokic, yeah, there's no shot.
There's no shot Some of the PutWimby in college.
He's destroying all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
I'm sure everybody wants to say the guys have been
around, like LeBron and thoseguys, and I'm sure LeBron would
probably do it too, lebron,right now would still average 80
, but a lot of those guys arekind of getting older and not
quite what they used to be.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
So so some of those guys, some of the guys on the
the reel, were saying seven,eight, ten.
Well, they had a couple of notso past nba players on there and
they were like no, it's like 30or 40.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
They're like you guys are forgetting how good some of
these guys are but you'resaying put it on that team and
go beat duke with cooper flagand oh yeah, 100.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
You put sga on saint francis.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Not a single person on duke is going to stop him
from scoring 50 now I do agreewith that, because nba well, nba
players don't play a lot ofdefense, but nba players can't
stop him from scoring 50 but,but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
These guys are such prolific scorers, there is no
shot.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Okay, so obviously the stars can do it.
Where's the bottom line so?

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
all your superstars.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Yes, because that's a whole other level.
I even think the stars.
Not even just the superstars.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Can Devin Booker go do it?
Good chance, I mean the manscored what 80 in the NBA.
I know he can score, but thething about it is, regardless,
that they don't play muchdefense.
The talent there is next leveland nobody wants to be the guy
saying, hey, he scored 80 on me.
Nobody wants to be that.

(01:11:42):
Eventually he's going to startplaying some defense.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
I actually heard this story again recently.
It came back up um the year thenba had the lockout.
What was that?
2012, I guess it was yep.
So cal being at kentucky.
Nba guys were coming in thereall the time practicing
everything because they had thelockout.
One of the nba teams came,didn't have every NBA player,

(01:12:05):
but had LeBron was there, durantwas part of it and that 2012
Kentucky team beat them in ascrimmage.
I'm not saying they could do itevery time Now that was a good
2012 team, but the collegeplayers beat the dream team.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
They did, but the thing about that is who cares.
They're not in there tryingtheir hardest.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
I assume that also.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Because when you go watch these guys play in the
summer, they're not trying theirhardest.
They're out there getting repsand doing stuff, but they're not
.
You put that team and they'relike all right, you're going to
give me a million for winningthis game.
That team don't stand a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
I wouldn't think so either but I kind of think we're
cutting short some of thecollege players, not all of them
.
I think there's some college.
I mean, look at the guys whoskipped college and went
straight to NBA, like LeBron.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
But the true success stories that those guys turned
into superstars few and farbetween.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Well, Like it's easy to remember the ones that did
like Kobe's, lebron's, garnett's, but the true superstars that
skipped college few and farbetween.
I do agree that a lot of thesewho we consider great college
players, came out of college notreally as superstars and became
superstars once they got to theNBA.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Yes, but also think about how many guys in college
that you're like these guys areunbelievable and never make it
anywhere in the NBA.
It's weird.
It is such a even from big Done to NBA.
It is such a huge leap and Ithink that for all pro sports,

(01:13:40):
not just basketball, from top ofthe top sec or, you know, ohio
state to then the NFL, it's abig jump.
It's much more physical, muchmore fast.
It is.
Everybody is now that speed,everybody's that athletic.
You can't be like.
Well, who are we going to pickon?
Where's the matchup?
Why do you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
think we have, and maybe it's style of play.
I don't know.
But why do you think we haveplayers in college basketball,
especially that we go, man,they're not going to do very
well in the NBA.
Is it just the style?

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
So you've got to look at the NBA picks, the cream of
the crop.
If you are a 5'10 point guard,you're not going to make it in
the NBA.
You don't have the height, youdon't have the reach.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
You don't have a lot of that stuff, so it doesn't
matter what you did in college.
You could have been the bestcollege player ever you could be
great in college.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
You could do a lot of cool things in college.
You have a great college career, score a lot of points.
But the college game is alsomuch more team-based,
team-oriented.
It's played very different thanthe NBA.
The NBA is much more ISO,fast-paced up and down.
Score the ball first, that'sall we care about.

(01:14:42):
So that's me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
It's a very different game I got.
I already know atlanta winsthis.
I got excited with that puttthey just made.
They threw the hammer and uhwent up four to three right
there so it's two hammer.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
That's the final that they got.
Four three is the final score.
So you, you just got to see thethe winning.
That was good winning putt.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
I don't have the remote close to me.
I I had to rewind it.
Oh, here we've got a replay.
Right now they're actuallyshowing a replay.
Look at this beautiful putt towin it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Oh, I saw this already.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
I saw the clip earlier and that's what's
exciting right there.
There he goes off riding hisclub almost like a horse and
throwing his hat, and that's whyI love that team right there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Not Well, but to me that's why I think TGL has a
place, because we're seeing acrowd engagement.
We're seeing a different typeof excitement, like you're
excited for somebody else tomake a putt PGA Tour, you don't
want somebody to make a putt,you don't care, not that you're
wishing their downfall, but atthe same time you're like if

(01:15:42):
they are playing this great,that means I have to play that
much better.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
That's Billy Horschel , so he's going to put on a show
anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
But just for the fans .

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
He does.
But you're right, when I'mwatching golf, there's so many
golfers out there, there's a few, I don't mind who win.
So I'm not just like this guy.
Right here, I'm for him, Iright here, I'm for him, I want
him to win.
I'm right, I'm living and dyingwith him.
If he doesn't win, I can go nobig deal, but here like that's
my team.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
If they don't win, I'm upset team.
It's wins and losses for anindividual.
Yeah, he had another top 10.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Like you, celebrate you celebrate it very different
I mean same way, nascar?

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
you're right it does.
Oh man, he finished top five.
He had a great race.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
I there's a couple drivers.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
I love nascar, but at the end of the season, man, he
finished top five.
He had a great race.
There's a couple drivers I lovein NASCAR, but at the end of
the season if your team finishestop five, dang we finish fifth.
It doesn't feel like youactually did good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
It's not the same.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
It's not the same at all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
No, the excitement I got when he made that putt to
win that is not the excitement Iget if he made that putt to win
the tournament on his own.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
It's just not the same.
It's just not the same at all.
I don't know why.
But you're right, it's that waywith NASCAR a little bit too.
Team oriented is very different.
When you get behind a team,you've got these multiple people
all coming together for it.
You just feel different aboutit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Well, this putting it indoors in an arena is way
different too, because fans cansit in the stands and just watch
, and you can see all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
You're not walking, you're not following.
You're seeing everything happenright in front of you, but I do
think TGL should be moved,charlotte.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Winter.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Let's go to Atlanta.
I think we should do it in thewinter.
Oh, you mean move the time.
I thought you meant move thelocation.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
No, I think we should do fall the winter.
Oh, you may move the time.
I thought you meant move thelocation.
No, I think.
No, I think we should do falllate, fall into winter.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
I think that's like the perfect time I don't want to
mess with college football, butyou have less games?

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
you do, but you have way less because they're playing
it on a monday and a tuesday.
That's not the middle summer,but monday and tuesday you've
got.
You're not competing withfootball.
Nfl has Monday night games.
Play it on Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
What Tuesday is there ?
Play it on Tuesday.
Sorry, I kicked the table overthere.
It probably would help becausethe fall most places.
The temperature is cooler,You're not out as much.
It gets dark earlier.
You're at home earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
I think it could keep people into golf longer,
potentially.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
It could.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Because you've got to think.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
So you're saying home earlier.
I think it could keep peopleinto golf longer.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Potentially it could, because you gotta think so.
You're saying, do it rightafter their championship ends,
in a way.
Yeah, well, then too, I feellike you have more guys that
might be interested in beinginvolved, because your main
season's over the big namesthey're not competing in pga
fall, so they're, they're justkind of off doing who knows what
.
Some of them play some dp worldtour.
Some of them are still doingsome of the small stuff.
Some of them are kind of justtaking time off.
So for me it's like, hey, thisis a perfect time to throw them

(01:18:29):
into a team event where you'replaying golf, but it's so much
more relaxed, like this is notthe same thing, but I think then
that gives the potential to.
If you move it to, then it alsogives potential to you move it
to the end.
It also gives potential to youcan have home matches.
You could put a stadium in eachof these cities and actually
play in that city.
So I think that's what I'mthinking as a team like you need

(01:18:52):
a home venue.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
How do we do TGL style at 4U Golf?
That's what I want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Oh man 15 holes.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
you know we can figure it out.
That would be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
We can make that happen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
And literally you know we'd figure it out, that'd
be fun, and literally thathappened team on team matchup,
weekly or something.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Well, I mean, that's the thing.
I think it'd be really easy todo because we have the setup.
Yeah, the only thing that wouldbe different would be the, the
putting portion.
You wouldn't actually.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
You just do like you do on the top tracer yeah,
that'd be fun like three onthree and so and again, like
it's just like they do, likealternate shot for the first,
what 10 holes?
Nine holes, whatever nine holes, and then you have one-on-ones
to fit in.
That let's do it for the last.
We can even have the hammers, Idon't care, let's do it all.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Get us about six teams, eight teams I mean
realistically, the first timeyou try, you could do it four
yeah, I'll play on the team themore you have.
Let's go.
Are you going to be a teamcaptain?

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
yeah, I'll be a team captain ATL who?

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
are you stacking your team with ATL?

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
I'm calling up whoever's good, calling up Dell
and Connor getting on my team.
Hey guys, I'm going to need youfor a few weeks nope, they're
disqualified.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
No, I think you have to have amateur status.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
I think we could have fun with it, but I would want
to do it like don't copy theseteams.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Got to come up with a team name, I agree.
Got to come up like, make itlike, have some fun with it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Yeah, I mean like something silly, like have some
fun with it, Like if you want to, you know, because that is one
of those type leagues that youcould easily make it where that
works.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Only two teams play every week.
Be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
It would just be getting people involvement.
If you can get enough people,that's all of it, because
obviously you've got three on ateam.
It would you know?

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
yeah, there's some brainstorming that could happen
with that.
If you're listening and youwant to come play, let us know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Yeah, reach out Listen.
I understand the podcast is notamused.
I am not having an emu as mymascot.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
That's the rule.
If you play in it, you have tobe the emu.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Are we kind of like Tiger and Rory at this point,
then, without the skill?

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Yeah, we're creating stuff, Running it creating it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
We're not really creating stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Running it, creating it type deal.
I mean, we're kind of competing, we're not really creating it.
We're going to try to innovate,we're more like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Apple we're going to innovate not invent.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
We're going to show you guys what you did wrong.
Sorry, I was shot at Apple too.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
That's just kind of out of left field.
Yeah, I mean, I think thatwould be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
I'm an Apple fan.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Don't be talking about Apple Apple over Android
any day of the week.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Nothing messes up a group text like somebody's got
an Android.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
The green text messages.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
I know iMessage is just, and, again, it's something
that we're basically justbrainwashed for at this point.
But it's just easy, do you?

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
have a group text for your team.
Yeah, it is not blue.
Mine is not blue.
Mine is not it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
I've got like two or three for different teams and
they're none.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Listen, I've probably got 20 different group texts in
here for different things atdifferent times.
None of them are blue.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Who's this one person ?

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Is it the one person?

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
It's never one, it's always multiple, but I never see
one of these androids out inthe wild.
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
My dad's an old man.
He's got one.
He has an Android.
He's got a flip phone.
It's one of the newer flipphones, but it's a flip phone.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
I think he's got that newer Razr that flips open.
Oh, we talked about that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Not a fan of that either.
He acts like it doesn't botherhim.
But I saw his phone the otherday.
That type of screen there'sgoing to be a crease type thing
form.
It's got a crease in the middleand I'm like that.
It messes up the whole view.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Yeah, that's me.
I don't, I don't like it.
We go through this of littlephone, little phone.
See how small we can get it.
Okay, now it's getting biggeragain.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Now let's go get.
I don't know what makes thedifference.
No, I don't want a phone thesize of an iPad.
That's too much.
But I do like a bigger phone.
Yeah.
I always have the plus version.
But I like watching videos onit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
I look up stuff all the time yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
I mean, I'm checking emails, emails, and parts of
things I've had to purchase orfind or replace or whatever.
It's just all the time.
So yeah, I like the biggerscreen without having to carry
something else around.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
So we've had this conversation before.
How many unread emails do youhave?
Zero.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Really, you still have zero.
I always have zero.
How?

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
I check them, I erase them.
I cannot keep up with mine.
I have to move them.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
I do it a few times a day.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Do you want take a guess?
I mean now.
Now here's to be fair.
Every so often I'm like I can'thandle it, no more and I start
going through and I just starteddeleting and it takes some time
, and so I've done this a couplemonths ago probably, maybe a
little longer, and I got abouthalfway down and they're coming
right back.
I don't know, and I evenunsubscribe from these crazy.
So here's the thing we have weobviously have the business
email.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
I can't have that on my first page because you won't
let it be zero, because I willmake it zero.
Go make it zero, I will 100.
But I don't know if there'ssomething you need.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Well, so I do that with my work emails and stuff
like that.
If it is unread, I need to dosomething with it.
Typically, so I will read anemail Okay, I need to do
something.
I so I will read an email, okay, I need to do something.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
I'll mark it back on Reddit.
If I've got one I need to getdone, I do it within the first
two days so I can get rid of it.
I can't stand not having it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Sometimes I'm busy, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
I can't stand Like if I have an app that too often
pops up something, I get rid ofthe app.
Like there's no sense that hasthat many notifications, so I
have four emails on my phone.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Okay, my day job is 46 unread right now.
That's not bad for you, I foryou.
Golf has 32 the old wait, wehave 32 unread.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Yeah, I only see 11.
Mine says 32.
Oh gosh, that would drive menuts.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
I can't probably say where it's only showing you so
many days ago, or something likethat.
I, I guarantee yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
I can't stand that.
That's too much.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Our old Gmail account has three Now knowing those, so
that's a little less than 100.
But I have one more.
That's my Yahoo personal.
I've had for years.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
I'm going to guess though I do nothing with them
Like 3,500.
Total yeah, so my initial guesswas going to be over five, but
then those were lower than Ithought.
You're still low.
75?
You're still low.
Is it over 10?
Not quite.
That gives me anxiety justthinking about.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
I have 9,831 unread emails on my phone.
Oh, you are a psychopath.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
What is wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
I can't stand that I don't have time.
I used to not be able to.
I used to have to go through it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Listen, I'm going to tell you this right now I don't
care anymore.
I would get rid of that email,Like I would delete that from my
phone, Like it's obviously notimportant, I would just get rid
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Occasionally, I get a few things in there that I need
and I would make a new one andattach.
If I am getting an email I need.
It gets lost in all the otherjunk and I can't stop the junk.
I keep trying.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
So the personal email that I have I have so few
things that actually go therethat I'm like I keep it up that
there is zero, but it's justsuch a waste.
There's so few things Iactually get in my personal
email, because all the importantstuff I either have coming
through, uh, through the, thegolf one or or through you know

(01:26:08):
the two main ones we have there,but that's about it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Everything else is like very, very few things I
don't know if anybody knows howto stop this.
I would be like some of yourbills that used to like only be
email.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Now they text you.
Now they're, they send youthose.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
I'm like I don't even need the email message that's
why you set up, and I don't evencare if they email it or not,
as long as it's correct.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
I don't know.
I need somebody to help mefigure out how to stop all these
, because I really don't want tostart a new email and have to
redo all my email stuff.
But it's getting ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Email is one of those things that I feel like was
phasing its way out and thencame back hard Like it was just
like everything switched.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Why do you think it did that?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
I really don't know, cause you're right, a lot of has
changed the texting.
Like I get a lot of so manythings.
Well, so all the websites arelike hey, here's a 10% off
coupon.
It used to always be give usyour email.
Now they ask for email and thenthere's a secondary pop-up If
you want to actually get the 10%you got to give me your phone
number.
And I'm like now I'm gettingbasically what would be junk

(01:27:15):
mail emails in text and I'm likethat's annoying, that drives me
nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
So now I have so many texts that I can't get rid of
oh, no, you won't see me withunread texts.
Well, no, I can't have themunread.
They're red, but they're stillall there and they take up so
much space on my phone.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
I used to be really good about clearing them out,
but then at some point so manycame in so fast, it was just
kind of like now bind yeah, I'mjust to be, I just read it and
move on and I ain't got time todelete it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
When my phone says you have no more space, then I'm
like crap, I've got to get ridof some pictures and texts.
It's a lot of work, though, togo through.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Because it's not a quick process Like the emails.
It's not a quick process to getrid of all those Not from your
phone On a computer click all.
You can just click the unreads.
You can just click the unreadsLike you can do all the
different categories.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
That's what I do Just go there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
But doing it on the phone?
No, it's not nearly the same.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Usually I find myself in a doctor's office or
somewhere I'm stuck or in lineto get my daughter from school.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
So bored you have nothing else to do.
That's where you go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Sometimes, if I don't have, especially if I'm in a
spot I don't have service, so Ican't really.
Let's just start, because youcan actually kind of swipe your
finger down your phone and it'llhighlight everything you can
see.
I did that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
But you're getting like eight at a time.
I did that by accident one dayand I was like I never knew that
was there, yeah, and then now Icouldn't get to do it again the
other day.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
A few months ago I got down to like 4,000-something
.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
And you're in a few months you're back over 9,000
ridiculous.
Are you like subscribing toliterally everything you see?

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
No, I don't even know what half this stuff is and I
always unsubscribe from stuff.
Let's see what I got.
Something my financial weekly.
Uh, I got two of those rightthere.
Longhorn steakhouse.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
Why is Longhorn steakhouse Hang on?
Is it a coupon?

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
I don't know.
I mean I didn't open it.
You think I opened it.
It's unread.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
What do you mean it's food?
Of course, I figured you openedit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
I didn't even know it was there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Let's see If Longhorn's going to send us a
coupon.
I'll 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
No, it's just giving me we need to have a business
meeting.
It's just giving me pictures offood.
I want that.
I can fast pitch.
Community, your pet insurance?
You have insurance?
No, I didn't think so.
I don't know.
My pillow what is my pillow?
That's a brand, okay.

(01:29:32):
Why are they emailing me?
Maybe they think you need a newpillow.
Well, I do need a new pillowactually, but there you go maybe
they've my phone's heard mecomplain about it, so they send
me emails.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
That's all the time they.
I listen anybody that hastalked about anything for so
long.
People like, oh, it's justcoincidence, that's not
coincidence no, it is listeninglike there's no doubt about it.
The phone, the phones, thecomputers, whatever they're
listening, because you can talkabout one thing one time and the
next time you go scrollfacebook or you're on whatever

(01:30:03):
social media, that stuff comesup all the time it does.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
You know, I went to the one Kentucky game at Clemson
.
I bought tickets throughTicketmaster but it was like
sent from Clemson Athletics.
And you probably get Clemsonstuff all the time now I get
Clemson stuff all the time.
Now I mean maybe I want to seeit, maybe I don't, probably not,
I can't see you becoming aClemson fan, especially not as
bad as they played.
No, I mean, I'm not going to bea fan.

(01:30:27):
I might go watch a game downthere occasionally.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
I could see you going to some football games down
there oh that would be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Yeah, I love college football.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
I could definitely see you trying to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Moe's Southwest Grill .
That's good.
What's this?
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
That's good.
What's this?
Let's see.
Every podcast somehow comesback to food one way or another.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Because I'm fat, says the man that's going to live to
100.
Listen, every time I scrollthere is some other restaurant,
of course there is.
I got Papa John's.
Anyway, there's just too many,I can't handle it.
I'm just like it's one of thoseI just put to the side and say
yeah, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Well, to the side and say, yeah, whatever, okay, well
, speaking of restaurants,what's what's the go-to like?
If you're like, all right, Ican have anything I want, and
I'm just thinking we are goingto go here like what's this the?

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
specific restaurant or a type of food.
No, no restaurant itself.
It's got to be in our area, orlike what do we?

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
well, I mean, like if you within an hour, like of
here, because that that doeslimit it way down, obviously,
but if you within an hour, likeof here, because that that does
limit it way down, obviously,but if you're just thinking like
we're going to go over here andthis is where we're going to
eat.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
In a weird way, I'm a I'm a chain restaurant person
because, they all have the sametype of food and I know what it
is.
When you go to these singlerestaurants, you never know what
you're going to get.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
I'm a chain until probably vacation I agree,
probably vacation.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
I agree, that's when I think I switch.
I want to try different stuff,vacation.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Yeah, so what's the go-to?
Mine's easy.
If I'm picking just one thing,I'm going to go to mine's easy.
Brad already knows the answer,because we're probably going to
some type of wrestling showafterwards.
Okay, red Lobster.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
I kind of thought you was going to say Red Lobster.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
I love some red lobster I'm not a big fan of red
lobster the biscuits and whatused to be called the seaside
shrimp trio.
That's all you need to know.
That's all you need to know.
So it's a trio.
We got that part Of threedifferent shrimp entrees.
Yeah, I mean, it's justunbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
I'm going to say so.
I've got two and it depends onwhat I'm feeling.
One of them is going to beOlive Garden.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Olive Garden, I knew that was going to be Olive
Garden and Longhorn, so out ofall the steakhouse you'd go
Longhorn.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
I can't think of any others that I want better.
I'd go to Texas Roadhouse.
I don't really like TexasRoadhouse, it's okay's not my
favorite at all.
I'd go to Longhorn first.
That's a weird.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
We went to Outback not too long ago.
That wasn't great.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
No, that was awful.
That was the first and lasttime I've been to Outback in a
long time.
Sorry Outback, but the one nearus was awful.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
We got a steak and it was okay.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
No, mine wasn't that good.
The.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
I'm sticking with our local Longhorn.
When I say local, it's not real, real close, yeah, but so far
that's been our best one.
That's the best place Becausewe did go to the other one in
Tennessee on our way back fromNashville and it was awful.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
Now I will say probably both of our wives would
kind of have this on the list.
I know mine for sure.
Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
So it depends.
Like I'm a cracker barrelperson too, but I gotta be
craving that like home-cookedmeal that day.
I don't know what makes mecrave that meal.
I want to go there and get somemeatloaf and some green beans
and some mac and cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
I don't think I can go and not get breakfast I don't
like their breakfast that much.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
You are not american because I'm.
I'm a waffle person, not apancake person.
When it comes to eating out,I'd rather go to Waffle House.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
There's no shot.
I'm picking Waffle House overCracker.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Barrel, though, heck, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
I like waffles better than pancakes.
Personally.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
Waffle House is great .

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
There's the trio Pancakes, waffles, french toast.
Mine is waffles, pancakes,french toast.
I put waffles first, I likethem best, french toast Like I
put waffles first I like thembest, then I go waffles or
pancakes.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
I only like French toast if it's like the French
toast sticks, don't give me realFrench toast.
I don't want that.
You are a child.
I don't Between you andUncrustables.
Every time I talk to you you'reeating dino nuggies, okay you
don't, I don't want to hear it.
Listen, it's been months andmonths.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Yeah, yeah, my, my oldest would probably love if I
bought him some.
Well, he's a, I mean, he's muchmore on corn dogs than he is
those, but corn dogs good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
I've actually here lately I've been eating the.
Uh, what?
So?
What do you call these?
It's the corn dog shape, butit's the sausage in the middle
with a pancake around it.
What do you call those?

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
I have no idea I don't either.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
They're really good.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
That's such a weird that's, you eat the weirdest
things it's so like have youever had one yeah, maybe that's
really good, that's real,they're really good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
That's so weird.
Oh, especially for breakfast,they're really good.
I'm telling you you're missingout.
We are talking about food toomuch.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
All right, anyways yeah, it's too late and you're
you're gonna leave here and belike I got the last podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
I went to cookout, did you?
I did.
I got you.
Don't even like cookout, Idon't like.
It's the only thing I openedthat late, would that's true?
So I got I.
I ate a cheeseburger fries andcheese bites and drunk a sweet
tea on my way home at like, andthat was probably like 1 am 1
o'clock in the morning Jeez.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
I mean listen I was regretting it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
I'm not saying that, oh, when you get home you're
like that was terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
But it's hard because the one thing that is great
about Cookout not as muchanymore because they did raise
their prices, but it used to be.
It was like $ bucks for thewhole tray and a drink.
So it's still way cheaper,don't worry.
It's like 750, like it's notlike they raised a ton.

(01:35:53):
But I can remember like as acollege kid cookout was I mean
you could take two of you eat onlike 12, 13 after tax.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
It's like it's fantastic well, you could do
that a lot of places.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
That's the way taco bell used to be.
I remember when I was incollege playing basketball and
it was like late night you go toTaco Bell, you can't now 15
bucks and you were eating like aking.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
I.
We can just about go to ourlocal Mexican restaurant for
about the same price we spent atTaco Bell, and I would much
rather have that food.
Yes, it is crazy.
I went through the other day.
I got what did I get?
Two combos, two justquesadillas, like cheese
quesadillas.
Those are like close to fivebucks, those are outrageous.

(01:36:33):
And I got one of thoseCrunchwrap Supremes, so only two
of them was like meals.
There's three single items.
It was almost like 50 bucks orsomething like 40 some dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
I think they robbed you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
They did.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
The last time I went to Taco Bell I had like three or
four single items.
It was like 12 bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Yeah, it's ridiculous .

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
No, no, but it was like burritos you think that's
cheap.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
It was big stuff.
I don't eat burritos or nothinglike that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
I'm sorry you uncrustables and you who.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
No, I get quesadillas or crunch wraps at Taco Bell.
Thank you, that's so weird.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
We're learning some things.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
We're going to have to change our what do you call
it?
Category of our podcast likesports and food, because that's
what it is anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
We do talk about it a lot, but yeah, I don't really
have a butt there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
It's just, we talk about it a lot.
I was kind of like where's thebutt?
Go.
I was like where's the good one?

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
There's nowhere else to go, because, yeah, it's
discussed quite a bit, quite abit, but I feel like that's part
of just life, think about howmuch time you spend in a day
figuring out where to eat,constantly, like with families
and stuff like what you'reeating, if you're eating where,

(01:37:53):
if you're going to go out andeat where you're going because
somebody doesn't like something.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
When I'm finishing up lunch, I'm thinking about what
am I eating for dinner?
Okay, that's maybe a bitexcessive, but I mean, if no, uh
, what?
I think what drives that is howbusy everybody is, because
you're constantly going okay,what do you have this evening?
what are we doing this evening?
Okay, how are we fitting indinner and where are we getting
it?
And are we cooking at home?
You know we outside of beinggone with sports and stuff, we
actually eat at home.
You know we, outside of beinggone with sports and stuff, we
actually eat at home quite a bit, and really way more than you

(01:38:17):
would think.
We sit down at the table as afamily and eat dinner.
Now, it may only be that 15minutes or whatever while we're
eating dinner, but we do apretty good job of getting that.
Fairly often it's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
We don't have time between when, when amanda gets
home and then me doing all thisstuff out here like there's just
, there's no time to get homecooking meals, like yeah, it's
already bedtime, but that's,that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Everybody has no way and that's why I say we're that
way a lot.
But uh, when sports are goingit's harder to do, but in the
winter we was able to do it alittle bit more.
But um, yeah, I mean even evenjust with.
Did you do that growing up?

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
because I did, like almost every meal was mom cooked
it the vast majority was athome, but I mean I can also
remember mom would do crock potstuff yeah, that's good because
I mean both, both my parentsworked for as long as I can
remember.
So yeah, it was all like really,I won't say simple stuff
because we I mean we ate well,it was just usually some

(01:39:18):
crockpot based thing orcasseroles or the stuff that was
much easier to to do, even whenit's busy yeah, but I remember
that much more when I was likewhen I was very young, because
as I, as I got older andeverything gets busier, honestly
there's plenty of times they'redoing dinner without me, like
whether I'm traveling from ballgames or hanging out with

(01:39:39):
friends or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
You know, you just yeah, I guess it's a little
little different hey, right,there's a nice picture.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
2025 champions I think the trophy's a little
lacking.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
I'm not sure what they were going for.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
I mean, you can't really say they're going for
simplicity.
So TGL just showed on TV herethe trophy that they're giving
out.
It's a very, very simple trophyand I feel like you can't
really go after simplicity,because nothing about this
league is simple Like this isthe craziest of technology that
golf has done, yet it reminds metoo much of the college

(01:40:19):
football trophy, Just thatslender skinny.
To me it reminds me of, like asoccer trophy.
I don't know what a soccertrophy is.
They just do very simple, notmuch on the top.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
That's a sport.
You are not going to find metalking about much.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Have you ever watched much soccer?
Like at all?
A little bit, I mean.
For me, the only time I'mreally watching much is World
Cup.
I think World Cup's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
But it's your country .

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
It's kind of like the Olympics.
It's very representative ofyour country.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
That, and every time and again we go back to food.
But every time I go to theMexican restaurant it's always
on.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
That is always on.
Yes, that's very true actually.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
I really want to ask them if they could change it at
some point, but I might get introuble.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
I just feel like that's rude.
Let them watch what they wantto watch, but I'm the customer.
You watch what you want towatch out here.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
What if a customer comes?
Well, depends on what they askfor.
No, you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
That's what I'm saying.
It's no different.
That's a cake, and eat it too.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Hey, you go to Applebee's or something like
that, they'll change the channelfor you.
Okay, hang on.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
You can't really say Applebee's, because there's 40
million TVs in.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Applebee's.
Well then, the Mexicanrestaurant needs to get more TVs
.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
That's what we did, while, no, it's good which
they've changed very much, howthey from what they used to be.
There are so many tvs in onespot it is hard to figure out
what you're watching.
How do you watch though?
It's just every angle.
You look, there's a tv and Iget why it's the whole sports
bar feel, it's the whole.
You know we're gonna have allthe games, we're gonna show
everything, but there's just somuch to to look at and I haven't

(01:41:47):
been in a while.
I just know the last time Iwent it made me think of that
how there's one wall.
It had like 12 tvs on it andthey're all on something
different and I'm like it's it'sso distracting on what you're
actually trying to see.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
I've probably been to that in my entire life.
I could probably count on myhand how many times I've been to
one.
It's just never been a place.
I think we went on vacationonce.
Uh, been to one somewhat local,I think once.
It's just not a place that Ienjoy going it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
It's not what it used to be.
They.
They have declined massively,in my opinion.
We used to go I mean at onepoint it felt like once a week
at you know college, justoutside of college, and then
kind of late high school, earlycollege.
I remember doing it becausewe'd go watch all the big games

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there.
They had all the like if you'rewatching ufc, they had all the
pay-per-views and it was one ofthose places that you could kind
of go eat.
You didn't have to just eatthis big, massive meal, you
could kind of like eatthroughout the night while
you're watching some big longgame.
It was just really simple, butto me the food then was way
higher quality, was it?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
and they still just did some things really, really
well as far as how they set upeverything.
You know, I'm going gonna spendmy money now, and I just never
place.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
I thought let's go there, but you don't like
chicken though more so now thana little better yeah, but then
though, like you were notpicking chicken, can I ask a
question?

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
how did we get back on food again?
It just happens like I thoughtwe literally moved away from
food we was in something.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
Theoretically, everything come back to it
apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
But I think that's everybody's lives anymore.
Like every meeting, you knowit's a lunch thing, a dinner
thing, everything with family.
If you have any, get togetheryour family.
You got to have food.
Everything revolves around foodanymore, I feel like, and maybe
it always did, but but it wastalking about that like we.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
We used to do every christmas, every thanksgiving,
every eas, like the entirefamily got together, like the
whole big extended thing.
We don't do that anymore.
I don't know exactly when itstopped.
Probably really it kind ofstarted pandemic.
A lot of people stopped doingthat but I noticed it also

(01:44:05):
slowed down after my grandmapassed.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
Like that was, that was a big thing Like that
brought it together.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
It was that with my grandma passed.
That was a big thing thatbrought it together.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
It was that with my family too.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
I feel like we tried to keep it for a little bit and
then it's just like people justkind of stopped trying to force
it because it's just so busy,just so busy.
So yeah, I mean that's a bigpart of it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
Who takes that on once the grandparents pass away,
because I feel like that'salways that way, I think that's
always that way.
I think that's why it stops,because most people just don't,
I don't think it's not that, notthat way is it never coming
back the way it used to be?

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
I don't think we'll ever really see it like that.
But, like you said, everybody'sso much busier now, like the
the world just moves at adifferent pace.
It's hard to find now.
There's still a lot of peoplethat do.
A lot of people still have thebig family get together, still
do the big meals.
At some point it'll end forthem too, it's just there's some
somebody is keeping it together, so it's it's kind of just but

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it's even all the little gettogethers.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
You know, if I'm, if anybody's going to my house,
we're probably ordering food,ordering pizza, doing something
on the grill.
Like we're doing something,like you have to have food.
It feels like if you're doinganything and I don't know when
that became that way.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Maybe that's why we're all overweight birthday
because, if you notice,typically you schedule in
between meals well, becauseyou're gonna have cake and you
try all the other stuff.
You try to do it after lunch,before dinner.
So it's I'm gonna save somemoney, because I'm already
having to spend a fortune onthis thing.
I agree, we'll save some moneyand not have to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Kids' birthday parties are expensive, I don't
know.
As you can tell, we like sports, we like food.
So if you like those two things, you're going to enjoy what we
talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
I am excited, though, sports-wise Opening day
baseball's very, very soon.
They Baseball is very, verysoon.
They're having a big game inJapan.
Dodgers are playing over there.
They're doing a whole bigspectacle of it, so I'm excited
to watch that, are they?

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
going to pay the venue now or wait until later?
I don't know.
I figured they'd just push thatoff like they're doing all
their players.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
I mean, they could yeah.
I mean, they paid the Japaneseteams so that they can recruit
more.
Right now, is there early afavorite to win it?
I mean way.
I mean I think, yeah, thedodgers, I think, have to be the
favorite one.
At last year just added more.
I mean it's not like they lostmuch, they just added more
talent.
So, yeah, why would they not bethe favorite?
Not that I necessarily like it.

(01:46:22):
I mean to me it's hard to cheerfor a team that's completely
opposite into the country.
Yeah, like it's just hard tohave ties with somebody like
that I'm I'm always going to bea braves fan.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
I think I don't ever see that changing, no matter
what.
But I also don't know whenthey're going to be good again I
mean, they won a championshipjust a few years ago.
I know, but, I think they'vebeen so are we going to have
that?

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
span again.
No, I think last year had amuch better year, but they had
so many injuries.
I mean the rotation at onepoint was just destroyed from
major injuries.
I think you'll see another.
I mean I think they're going tobe a playoff team for the next
foreseeable future.
I just don't know getting overthat hump.

(01:47:04):
I'm not sure, but with what theDodgers are doing right now, I
think it's going to be hard tobeat them.
I think it's going to if theyget some injuries.
They get, you know, some ofthat.
Yeah, but baseball is such along season.
I mean, there's so many thingsthat can happen, yeah, so many
things.
We've talked about how long itis I don't.
I don't like the length, but I Iknow you're really excited to

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watch certain stadiums.
I know that excites you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
Gosh, don't get me going, it's late.

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
No, I was bringing it up.
I was like where can I go withthat?
And I knew exactly where I wasgoing the whole time and I just
had to figure out how I wantedto say it.
Okay, Because I know you havevery strong feelings on this.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
It is the I'm not even going to say dumb, it is
the I'm not even going to saydumb.
It is the stupidest thing I'veever seen in my life that every
stadium can have a differentdistance for home runs.
Because it's like, if you hitit this distance, you get a run.
Okay, go to the next teamyou're playing.

(01:48:06):
Well, now, last game, if I hitthis distance, no, no, no, this
time you got to hit it 50 feetfurther, or 100 feet further.
Or let's go to the GreenMonster.
Which stadium is that again?
Red Sox, red Sox.
Okay, on this stadium you don'thave to hit too far, but you've
got to make sure you keep itway up in the air, or it's.
It is the dumbest thing.

(01:48:27):
Or left field is closer thanright field.
I don't want to hear it.
That is the dumbest thing inthe world.
Every other sport you haveparameters of what gets you
points, except baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
When we talk home runs, so there are a little bit
of rules on it, because we kindof talked about it earlier.
They must be very vague.
It doesn't control a ton.
It just says the minimumdistance between home plate and
the nearest fence within play.

(01:49:07):
So between foul poles it has tobe at least a minimum 325 feet.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Okay, so you've got to hit at least 325 to get home
run If it was built after 1958.

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
Oh my gosh, 1958, though.
So that's why Fenway gets awaywith it, because it was built
way, way before that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
If Fenway, if you can go in Fenway.
So what's the distance?
Finway, do you know?
I mean, I can find it real quickif you can go in finway and hit
a home run at a shorterdistance, then every other field
should be the exact same thing.
I don't know how hard.
You know how many um, likeyouth fields and stuff, we have
in this country, just ballfields and middle communities.

(01:49:48):
They have figured out that thedimensions to put fields and to
make the, the fence a radius,and it's the same on the right
field, the left field, thecenter, such and such, come on.
We can do this and I knowtalking with will baseball guys
like it, like true baseball guys, like that.

(01:50:09):
It's unique, that it'sdifferent.
These stadiums are different.
I hate it.
How much different do you thinkthat is?
What'd you say?
It had to be 325?
Mm-hmm, it's probably a 50-feetdifference or something.
15 feet Only 15?
310.
Well, that's not bad, but stillthat just destroyed your whole
argument no, no, it's not as badas I expected, but still the
same thing.
If I show up somewhere and Ihit it 310, I expect to get a

(01:50:33):
run, because I can do it at thisstadium.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
But only in one very tiny portion.
If you hit it on that leftfield line, 310, yes, but as you
move more into the field ofplay it starts going more.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
But you're making it even more silly that it can be
different in different places.
The middle should be further100%, but it should be the same
on left field as right field andit should.
Every field should graduallycome to the center at the same
distances.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
To me that's like that's a cookie cutter, that
just no stadium is the same, andthat's kind of what makes it
interesting, but at the sametime, like then you start to
throw in the other hiccup here.
Should we make the stadium incolorado for the rockies?

(01:51:26):
Should we make it way longer,because the ball carries farther
?

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
No, that's silly.
But you could say that infootball too Same argument there
, but we go play NFL there andwe don't make that statement.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
But the mechanics are very different.
Different things are happening.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
The climates where you live.
It's different, because itcould be different if you go
play in the south and in thenorth winter.
Like.
We can talk, let's just thestadium can be different all the
way around it.
It don't have to be cookiecutter, but the field should be
cookie cutter, like you guyshave a baseball field.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
But that's the thing.
Like every sport has itssomething, there's something in
every sport that is different oris not necessarily explainable.
That, to me, is one ofbaseball's that it's like
there's no sense in changingthat.
Like it.
It makes it.
It makes it give interest.
Like it makes it makes thefields feel original.

(01:52:18):
It makes them feel like specialto the, to the people.
Like the.
A Yankees fan no Yankees fanlikes the stadium now compared
to what they used to have, theold Yankee stadium.
That was something that theytalked about.
I don't think they ever will,but if Boston ever decided we're
going to build a completely newstadium, it would ruin what

(01:52:38):
makes that special about playingin Boston.
Just fix the field.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
Make the field like all the fields, standard.
You keep your same stadium, Idon't care.
Fix the fields.
Make them up shorter if youwant.

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
Across everything, they don't care.
Fix the fields, make them, makethem up shorter if you want
across everything like they.
They don't really do that.
I mean it's different indifferent cities.
It's different, differentwhatever like whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
Every league is different like but it's only
that way in baseball rules.
It's only that way in baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
Every other sport again, that's what that's what
makes it, makes it kind of fun,makes it dumb, dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
I know Makes it dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
It's okay.
It's okay to not get it, it'sokay.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
I just I feel like a run is a run.
If there's a distance you hitthe ball to get a run, it should
be that way across the board.
I'm curious because I don'tknow this answer.
If there's ever been likelooking back at the records, is
there somebody in the recordslike home runs because their

(01:53:35):
home field was at one of theseshorter fields?

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
You've got to think that you only play half of your
games at that field 70-somethinggames.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
I can hit a lot of home runs if I get that
advantage.

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
I bet you've got to think these guys don't hit.
I mean, technically, barryBonds holds the record for most
in a season at 70-something, buthe had over 300 at-bats, if not
more.
It's like you're not hitting.
You're not even hitting one.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
He might have had more.

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
Barry Bonds did it at literally every stadium and
he's a lefty, and most of thoseare actually longer than the
short ones.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
I told you he didn't have short courses.
We need to go out, we need tofind the shortest distance
allowed and we just need to goout there with those little
construction fences and we'regoing to build until somebody
decides to fix it.
That's what we should do.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
I think that's just trying to solve a problem.
That's not actually a problem.
No, it's a problem Only for you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
I do wonder how many people do care.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
You poll that.
I think you are the smallest ofsmall minority.
I don't think people thinkthat's an issue.
I think there's so few peoplethat are like, yeah, why does
that matter?
I think it'd be more than youthink.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
I think it's a massive minority Because every
other sport we want it to beequal and fair.
But baseball, we're okay ifsomebody gets an advantage.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
But that's the thing with baseball too though You're
basing it off of, we've got tohit home runs.
A lot of these teams don't care, they'll generate small ball
and we're going to steal basesand we're going to have faster
guys and not not hit for powerand it's like all right if I was
if that was the only way toscore, if there was no other way

(01:55:20):
to score runs unless you hit itover the fence, I think 1
million percent, they would haveexact distances everywhere.
No, but that's not the only way,like in football, the only way
to score is to get it across theend zone.
There is no other way besideskicking a field goal, which is
standard, end zone, which isstandard.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
There's no other option, but you just proved my
point Like.
So why can't we just move thefield goals then to different
distances?
Because you can still scoretouchdowns.
So you don't have no butthere's there's, there's like
that's the the uniform.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
If you want to score six, you have to do it this way.
You're right.
Score three, you have to do itthis way.
Yeah, baseball is always onlyone.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
There's no, there's no other way to score other than
having people on base but youget to bypass the bases by
getting a home run, so it's ait's it's like a touchdown.
You get the same amount ofpoints exactly because it, but
especially if your base isloaded, you get more.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
But that's again.
You're generating different.
You could bunt technicallythree times and get on.
Should we do away with bunting?
That's a whole different thing,it needs to be uniform.
See, that argument doesn't evenmake sense there.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
Yes, it does.
It's the same thing you'resaying about football, same
thing with basketball.
No, that's a very differentthing in football, in football.

Speaker 1 (01:56:28):
If you want to score six, how do you do it Score
touchdown, touchdown.
If you want to score three, howdo you do it Kick a field goal?
Okay, those are always going tobe there.
Yeah, the only way to score arun is not dead home run.
Everything is always worth oneperiod.
That individual is worth one.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
That doesn't matter, that's irrelevant that's you're
changing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
You're changing the subject.
No, that's not changing thesubject, that's just.
That's just making a point inthe fact that you can score in
many other ways you hit a singleyou're right.
Hit four singles, you score arun.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
Yeah, you're probably scoring multiple because guys
scored from second or hit onehome run and you get a whole lot
easier not necessarily becauseyou're you got to think about
different things are happening.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
Hitting a home run is not the easiest thing to do in
baseball hitting a baseball?

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
no, but it is the quickest and easiest way to
score.
Hit a home run.

Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
You don't have to worry about anything else but
then you would go into, likeanalytics, like basketball, it's
, it's ruined and the whole factof we're going to only shoot
threes baseball.
You would get nine home runhitters.
Why not?
Would you win more games?
Absolutely not.
Like you're not going togenerate the same rbis you're
not going to generate on basepercentage, you're not going to
generate those things.
If all you're doing is goingfor home runs, you're probably

(01:57:40):
going to lose two-thirds, if notmore, of your games not if
they're close depends on whatfield you're on, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
No, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
I don't think that's the case at all because hitting
a home run, still hitting a homerun, yeah, like that's hard to
do, regardless where you're at I.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
To me it's the same thing, as you know, taking the
three-point line and having itdifferent distances at different
arenas, like it just wouldn'tmake sense.
It's no, that's that's againthere's only one way to score
that it's.
It's a different again that's anirrelevant topic, but what it
comes down to is people who likethe history of baseball, don't

(01:58:15):
want to.
They like the way it is.
And if, for me, I don't carethat much about the history of
baseball, because I get it, butI'm more interested in the game
the way it is today and and Iwant to see it uniform, so it
just depends on where you're atwith it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:29):
I still think you are the vast minority.
Maybe I don't think there'senough people that that would
even be a raised concern.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
Well, I mean clearly because they haven't changed it.
If there's enough baseball fansthat didn't like it, they would
be looking to change it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
I mean, I don't think even your casual fan even cares
.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
It's my's, my opinion that matters, so that we should
obviously not, because it's notgetting changed.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
If your opinion mattered, there'd be a lot of
crappy things.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
We should change it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:57):
Wow, that was uh I'm just saying like that, that's
one of those that like literallynobody cares, like that, that's
not a, it's not even a topicthat gets brought up in in
anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
Well, that's the problem.
It should One day.
It will.

Speaker 1 (01:59:16):
You start bringing that up and I just think people
move past it like, yeah, thatnobody cares.

Speaker 2 (01:59:21):
No, I think you'd be surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
There's, there's like what Four.
There's four of you.
Good job, four is enough.
If we want to start talkingabout changing things for the
minority, we're going to godownhill quickly, because too
many things like that havehappened and that causes way
more no, no, I'm all about.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
If the baseball fans, the real baseball fans, are
fine with it, fine, leave it.
I don't care that much, but Istill think it's stupid.
Like I don't have to care, likeyeah, they don't have to change
it, I just think but there's alot of things that people think
are stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
That, oh agree, you would never switch you got this
topic started no, I know, butwhat I'm saying, though, is like
it, it would make no sense toeven think about it, like it's
one of those things that's sucha non-point for probably 99 of
the population.
You can be wrong, that's okayI'm listen.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
I'm okay with you being wrong.
I'm okay with them keeping itI'm okay with baseball.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
Wrong, I know.
I know how to be.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
It's okay I'm okay with baseball being incorrect.
They can play it incorrectly ifthey want.
It's fine, it's all right they.

Speaker 1 (02:00:29):
They've been doing it for a long time.
They're going to keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
It's always been the weirdest thing to me.
I don't know why, but I'm good,we're good, I will.
I'll still watch it.
I don't care that much.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
How many baseball games do you watch a year?
I'm not sitting watching thewhole game ever.
I'd say, yeah, it can't be many.
I can't imagine you watchingmuch of it no, why you say that?
No, I, just I, just you.
I can't imagine you sittingthere watching much of it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
It's time like there's so many games and they
take too long.
I don't have time to sit therethat long.
Anything I watch sports while Ileave a nascar, um or anything,
I usually record it, watch itlate at night and I typically
don't watch it all in one night.
I have to split it up differentnights.

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
It's the same thing.
I just can't do that with agame.
You're going to find out toomuch.

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
You're going to know too much, it's just not possible
to not have an answer to it.
I do a pretty good job notseeing it.
Most of the time it's difficult.

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
Especially if it's a big something, it a big
something.
It's so hard to not see thingsand at that point I'm like once
I know it, I don't care to goback watch it, like once I know
the outcome it's, it's pointlessto go.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
It depends what it is depends what it is for me, how
fun I think it is to watch, likeI like tgl, like we had it on
here and I already knew who wonit.
So I think most people areprobably like you.
They want to watch it live.

Speaker 1 (02:01:47):
I do some for me, I just if I'm watching sports, I
want to see it as it's happening, because once it's over and you
see the result, it's like allright if it doesn't matter.
Like at that point it doesn'tmatter, this guy had a great
game but they lost.
Cool, they lost like it's justkind of no, I, I get that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
but if I like nascar, especially if I only watched it
live, I'd never watch it Like Idon't have time.
So I'm that way with a lot ofstuff.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
Well, but that's the same reason that golf many of
those things will never truly bemainstream.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
It is a small select group that's going to watch it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
Well, we talked about how busy we are in life.
It's hard to sit down and eatdinner together anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
Well, but again, I think that's where something
like a TGL I don't know what youwould do with racing, that
would be similar to that, but Ithink that's where a thing like
TGL has a place, because it's amuch quicker, much easier to
digest form of that other sport,because I still feel like it's
almost like its own separatething, like it's golf, but it's

(02:02:48):
its own thing.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
Can we do that with other sports?
Feel like it's.
It's almost like its ownseparate thing, like it's golf,
but it's what's its own.

Speaker 1 (02:02:50):
Can we do that with other sports, like any other?
I don't know, that's what I wassaying, like with racing.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
I don't know how you would do that I guess it'd be
short, condensed races maybe alittle shootouts, I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
I don't know, because like I know they do that whole
the simulator racing stuff, butthat's that's no fun.
That's a hold that like, yeah,this is kind of what this is in
tgl, but that's a whole.
Like you're still swinging,you're still doing a lot of the
same.
You're still doing stuff where,like you could say, technically
racing, like you're stillsteering, but very no.

Speaker 2 (02:03:15):
No, the racing simulator stuff is like playing.
It's a video ps5.
Yeah, you're just playing avideo game.
That's not the same.

Speaker 1 (02:03:21):
No, it's very, very different.
Because like that, the the golfsimulation stuff, if you suck,
you're still gonna suck onsimulation like what's uh?

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
so basketball, maybe like the three on three stuff
they do.
Maybe that's kind of trying tobe that way, it's still not very
good like the big three.
Yeah, something like that Idon't think it's done very well
from my understanding.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
But I think maybe that's a condensed version I
think the biggest issue thathe's run into because I do
remember reading the article onit the NBA won't partner with
him If the NBA would somehow.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (02:03:54):
If the NBA would somehow just do something like
kind of like with TGL.
They own 20, pga owns 20% TGL.
If there was, the NBA didsomething as because most of
those are former NBA guys,almost all of the big three guys
are former- pros are former NBAguys.

Speaker 2 (02:04:08):
Almost all of the big three guys are former pros.
He's not a former NBA guy.
If a former NBA guy had it likeTiger and Rooney.

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
But a lot of team owners aren't either.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
No, I agree.

Speaker 1 (02:04:16):
Because that's basically all he would like.
He's in my understanding fromreading that article.
He doesn't feel like he has tobe the head of it.
It's head of it.
It's just like he's the onethat got it there if the
partnership will happen, cool,like, like you know, he'll do
some stuff within it, whatever,but he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
It doesn't seem like he needs to be the majority,
like it's got to be mine ornothing the problem is
basketball is one of those thatdon't really need to be
condensed and changed that muchlike it's a fairly no, I say,
basketball is not the same game?

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
it's not like you're really only going to do that
with a long-distance runningthing or a long-distance horse
stuff, or motorsports golf.
Because golf is a four-day18-hole.
You're talking six to sevenhours each day.

Speaker 2 (02:05:04):
It's weird for me too , as much as I love college
football.
They could speed those up alittle bit, and it would help.
Now again, I don't know how todo it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:11):
There's not a good way to do it, but I don't know.
The thing is that, like thegame of college football, the
pace is has sped up a ton.
I think it'd be hard toactually speed up the overall
time.
That's, but it's.
That's a such a fine line.

Speaker 2 (02:05:23):
I don't know how you close to four hours, but with
half times and everything else,like they're getting to be some
long games Well but a lot of it,though, is money.

Speaker 1 (02:05:32):
Look how many of these timeouts are just for me.
It is just to show commercials.
It is for nothing else.
Like, look at basketball.
Most of the stoppages inbasketball are because of TV
timeouts.
It's crazy, like every under 12, under four, like as soon as
there's a dead ball under there,it's a dead ball under there
it's a guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (02:05:49):
I wonder what these, uh, these small teams that you
know getting the tournament comeand they're probably not used
to that.

Speaker 1 (02:05:53):
They probably don't have all those tv timeouts if
they're not televised more sothan used to be, because espn
plus is a thing they also do iton there, okay, because?
We took our basketball team acouple years ago to unc ashville
to watch a game, and they wereon espn plus that night okay,
they had tv, so they still havetv time so anything that is
going to be even streamed, whichyou get way more now with espn

(02:06:14):
plus than you used to.
They still do tv timeouts soit's getting much more common.
Those teams are a little moreaccustomed to it than probably
when it first started, and it'slike we have like 10 extra time
outs a game that's.
That's what blows my mind ishow do you run out of timeouts
at that point, like you get oneevery few minutes?
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:06:35):
I agree, basketball is not this year.
I don't know how you make thatwith football, because it's
Football.

Speaker 1 (02:06:40):
There's just a lot of switching things out, there is.
But which.
Even then they'll do a it killsme.
Score a touchdown, then they goto commercial, Kick off and
then they do another commercial.
It's like, hey, hang on, theseguys are coming right onto the
field.
We don't have to do this.
Many Don't have to, Cause NFLis that way.
It's a lot of TV timeout stuffand it just really drags it out.
But it's all media rights andmoney.

Speaker 2 (02:07:06):
Yeah, like I said, I still enjoy it.
That's the one sport I'mprobably not going to complain
too much about, because I enjoyit.
If there's one sport I want tosit and spend time watching, it
would be that.

Speaker 1 (02:07:16):
I mean, I've got something I could easily say
that would get you to complainabout, but I'm not going to.

Speaker 2 (02:07:21):
Complain about college football.

Speaker 1 (02:07:22):
Yeah, it's just you know, we'll be here all night.
What's?
Here, we're deep, let's justhear it we're deep, here we go,
let's hear it.
We're going to end it righthere.
If I go to college footballofficiating, I'm good, I love
them all.

Speaker 2 (02:07:36):
You're such a liar I saw the face.

Speaker 1 (02:07:38):
They are great, you love targeting and exactly how
they call it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:42):
They are great officials.
Okay, that's all I can see.

Speaker 1 (02:07:46):
the face and I know exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:07:50):
We have to keep this podcast going, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:07:53):
We would be on a 12-hour podcast if it got going.

Speaker 2 (02:07:57):
Listen.
Officials in any sport areawful anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:08:01):
See, I told you.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
That's all I need to say I don't even have to get
into it, it don't matter.
Umpires in baseball,officiating in basketball yeah,
targeting, targeting, passinterference, yeah everything's
up for interpretation it is.
It's probably always been thatway.

Speaker 1 (02:08:17):
We just noticed it always, it always has, and I
think it's.
I think I don't know that'sreally ever been different.
I think it's probably alwaysbeen close, within percentage
points, to the exact same.
It's just people make it moreof a point now, mm-hmm, because
there are more games.
Everything's happening faster.
It's just as the game evolved.

(02:08:39):
It's something that people arestill playing about.

Speaker 2 (02:08:40):
I don't want to say it means more now, but there's a
lot more eyes on it.
Now, maybe with TV and socialmedia and all that stuff,
everybody sees it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:46):
There's a lot more eyes because there's a lot more
money involved, yeah, likebecause there's so much
marketing happening, there's somuch everything.
So you just got attacked.
I did, but yeah, I mean by amoth.

Speaker 2 (02:08:56):
Everybody calm down, I'm okay, it was a moth, nobody
was worried.
Nobody was that worried.
It was like you justnonchalantly said you just got
attacked.

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
I do believe that we would have made that more of an
issue if actually somethinghappened.
But a moth ran into you.
I think it'll be all right.

Speaker 2 (02:09:16):
Anyways, yeah, I got nothing bad to say about
officials.
They're all great, so let'smove on.

Speaker 1 (02:09:22):
You just usually don't get fined.

Speaker 2 (02:09:24):
That's all that is.
That's exactly it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:27):
Well, on that note, finally, David didn't have
something to complain about.
We're going to end for the week.

Speaker 2 (02:09:34):
I love everything.

Speaker 1 (02:09:35):
But we thank you guys for joining us and again, if
you have anything you'd like tohear us talk about, anything
that you find interesting, thatyou think we might find
interesting, which is really awhole lot of things we kind of
go, I like everything.

Speaker 2 (02:09:51):
You think I kind of go, I like everything.
You think I hate everything.
I actually like everything.
Now I like to hate some things,but I do like everything.

Speaker 1 (02:09:57):
Yeah, okay, sure.

Speaker 2 (02:09:59):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (02:10:00):
And on that bombshell , which no one believes we're
going to end.
So, thank you guys for joiningus and we'll see you next week.
Yep, see you guys for joiningus and we'll see you next week.

(02:10:22):
Yep, see you guys.

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