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What if you could navigate the chaotic world of sports fandom without missing a beat? Join us as we tackle the age-old debate of live sports versus recorded games, sharing our own mishaps and strategies for keeping spoilers at bay. Discover Tyler's unique approach to catching every Buckeyes game and David's relentless passion for NASCAR. We unravel the complexities of our modern viewing habits, all while juggling the demands of busy schedules.

Our analysis of the college football playoffs heats up with matchups like Penn State vs. Notre Dame and Ohio State vs. Texas. We dig into the potential advantages of game scheduling, debate Notre Dame's conference championship absence, and share stories of unexpected interruptions, like the infamous loud truck. From the evolution of sports contracts to the impact of NIL offers on players like Quinn Ewers, we explore the shifting landscape of college athletics with humor and insight, not forgetting our predictions for the final showdown.

And what’s a podcast without some fun detours? We reminisce about fast food adventures, from Taco Bell's crispy chicken nuggets to the nostalgic charm of dino-shaped chicken delights. Our chat meanders into the whimsical world of iconic marketing vehicles like the Wienermobile, and we can't resist poking fun at the ever-evolving attire of sports coaches. Wrap up with us as we discuss the need for more engaging PGA Tour playoffs and the quirks of refereeing in college basketball, all tied together with personal anecdotes and a good dose of humor.

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome back everybody to the Not Amused
Podcast here with Tyler andDavid.
Once again it's that time ofweek A little bit of recording,
a little bit of nonsense, Iguess a whole lot of nonsense.
I say a little bit and italways turns into way more than
I expect.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yep, hello everyone.
Thanks for tuning in again, oryour first time, as you pointed
out last time to me.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Absolutely.
Don't feel like you have tocatch up, because we we
reference things, but it's nevera.
If you didn't listen to this,you're not going to understand.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Um, it's all madness and crazy it is, I'm not gonna
be upset.
If you want to go back andlisten to, oh, no, please do we
love we love to see the thedownloads, the likes, the
comments.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know all the interaction.
It's been a lot of fun hearingpeople talk about the podcast
and kind of seeing some peoplethat would not have guessed
listen and they're reaching outlike, oh hey, it's been really
good, really good that's astrong term, but we're trying to
get there.
We're trying to make it alittle more fun for everybody
every week and trying to getsome more involvement with

(01:22):
everything.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, we've got a few people that reach out and say
oh, you're doing a good job, andthen it's a very small group.
So I know the large group, theyjust don't really like it or
something probably, but it'sokay.
But I do want to say real quick, brought to you by For you Golf
.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Correct, correct.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Got to get that in there.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Got to get that in there, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I skipped right over it.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I mean, what are we?
Eight Week eight?
I don't even know anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
No, we're on week eight.
It's good that I don't know thecount, that means we're still
going.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, so this is episode eight.
We don't really have seasonsbecause we kind of just keep
going.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Like the Energizer Bunny.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I forgot about the Energizer Bunny.
Is that still a thing?
I haven't seen commercials ofthem in a long time.
But again, here's somerandomness.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
How much do you watch commercials?
If I watch something on, so Ihave YouTube TV, right.
If I watch something on that,that's like a live TV.
I've probably recorded it aheadof time and so I'm just fast
forwarding through commercialsanyways.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Well, so I watch a lot of ball games live,
especially like all the collegefootball playoff games.
You know we get into all thesebig basketball games.
I'll watch those live becauseI'm always afraid I'm going to
get spoiled from somewhere.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So I'm like, all right, I got to watch it live,
or else I can't go look atanything.
What I end up doing is, whileI'm watching something,
something will come up orsomething will get my attention.
I want to see again, I'llrewind it, or whatever.
I find myself not 100% live, soI still usually fast forward,
at least some of the commercials.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
But yeah, because it kills me, You'll text me.
Hey, I'm not caught up yet.
Don't tell me what's going on.
And I'm like we're in the thirdquarter and you haven't made it
to halftime yet and I need youto be up here, but when the
game's ending, I'm usually rightthere.
I'm caught up.
I didn and watch it tonight andI'm like, oh my gosh, because.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I'm busy.
You're going to see thatsomewhere, though Sometimes I do
.
I do a pretty good job ofstaying off social media and
different things like that, sowith that, I guess it depends.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Is it a big game Like ?
I'll be honest with you, yourecord a lot of Kentucky
football that way.
There's not many big Kentuckyfootball games.
No and not really matter asmuch.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
And, to be honest with you, a lot of those I don't
go back and watch, right,that's true, I've got them
recorded if I want to or if I'msitting there, you know nothing
to watch and no games on.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Bored one night and going back and watching Kentucky
football games.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, I don't go back and watch it once I know,
especially once I know they lostand lost bad like happens a lot
lately.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
That's fairly typical .
Yeah, that Cool.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
But like Buckeyes games, you know I try to watch
those more live.
Or if I'm busy, you know I tryto just not find out who won,
and sometimes I can, sometimes Ican't.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's just really hard with the bigger teams and
bigger games because it justgets posted everywhere on every
social media.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
You have to stay off social media, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
So I guess it depends on what you're doing.
If you're doing something, youknow out with the family,
whatever, fine, yeah, it's alittle bit easier to stay off.
But when you're sitting at homeor you're, you know, working on
something at some point, youkind of check your phone.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
It almost feels like yeah, sometimes I'll
accidentally pull something upand go oh crap I've seen
halftime scores.
I can't see that, so I do thata lot of times, uh, during
nascar season too, and I won'twatch them all a lot of times.
I'm going to sleep talkingabout.
I know you don't like it, butit is getting close to start
back up again.
But, I don't have time to sitdown.

(04:31):
You know, most of them Sundayafternoons for that many hours.
And I'm the type of person whenI start watching NASCAR race
game, whatever I got to seeevery piece, I can't cut in and
out of it and fast forward someof it.
I just can't do it because it'sall a puzzle to me and I don't
want to get to the end and gowait a minute.
Why'd that happen?
What's this so?
That's?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
that's what's and you know you'll have a lot of
people say the same commentabout what I just said.
Nascar, you know, fall asleep.
Whatever about golf you don'tget to watch everybody in golf,
oh I know you miss.
That bothers a good portion ofstuff, especially when you're
talking Sundays, final day of atournament.
You're really only payingattention to those top five, six
, seven in the leaderboard.
If you have somebody thatyou're like, hey, that's my

(05:13):
favorite, but he's 27th you mayonly see a couple of shots here
and there.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
There's no real way to watch that.
That's the way I am with NASCAR.
Even if you don't care aboutthe drivers or whatever, you get
to the end of the race and yousee a couple drivers you know
kind of going for the win andyou didn't realize the first
half of the race.
This other car driver wasreally good but he wrecked out
or something you're like.
So you don't see the, the wholepiece well.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
But even then, though , like and there's no good way
to do this, I'm just kind ofthinking about this out loud at
this point If you get a guy thatworks himself up from 20
something into a top 10 finishand he needs a top 10 for
something, probably not seeingthat because they're not
following that guy, oh yeah,yeah.
On on the, the thing that goesacross the bottom, on the little
ticker.
You know it's going to show asthey improve.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
But at the end you see, okay, he finished 10th, but
you don't see, well, he had tostart way in the back to get
there Right.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
So you're like, well, that wasn't good, he got pushed
back to the back for whateverpenalty or whatever they're
doing.
Yeah, and I kind of feel thatsame way with even football,
basketball or whatever you know.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Basketball, you know.
Okay, why didn't this personplay very well?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Well, they had four foul.
If you watch the game you'llsee the fouls happen.
That's a little bit differentbecause there's some few people
like on the court oh no, that'swhat I mean.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
That's why I can't fast forward to just like key
plays oh yeah, like I gotta seeevery piece of it so it depends
because, like youtube, tv does apretty good job.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
You can, you know, watch some highlights, and they
don't show necessarily the statportion, it's more just like
some big highlights of the gameto kind of get you caught up.
Get you caught up to it.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I've never done that because I don't think I'd like
it.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, if it's football, it's like all right,
you're going to see some scores.
Okay, this is how we got tothis point.
Total, You're not going to seethe injury if there's an injury.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
You're not going to punk before they scored that
like.
Is that the first drive?
I?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
think that's more because you're a fan like
somebody, like somebody that's abigger fan, because a lot of
fans can watch it.
They don't care.
I'm that way with, and you'realso anal.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So that's that's.
I'm that way, watching tv shows, movies, my wife's like I don't
have to hear everything I saidwell, I do, I gotta hear.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
It drives me nuts and and I know I'm gonna hear about
this when she listens to it,amanda will have something and
like she'll be cleaning orcooking or doing something, and
she's like I'm watching a show.
I'm like you've not looked atthe tv in two hours you're
watching nothing like, and she'slike well, I don't, it's
something I watch, don't have toactually look at it and I can't
do that.
You're not watching, you'relistening to something that

(07:39):
drives you might as well justyou know, either you know listen
to a podcast or an audio book.
It makes no sense.
At that point You're notactually watching anything.
Yeah, no, to me watching iseyes on.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, but she's probably got Friends on or
something like that and she'sseen it 15,000 times, or Gilmore
Girls or whatever 15,000 isprobably a low number, yeah so
she probably already knows everyword.
She don't need to hear it.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
She could probably have a few episodes that she
could rewrite, like write themall down and know it fairly
close.
Well, she does that a lotanyways, because she like little
thing, especially friends.
It's an easy show that littlethings that they say kind of pop
up or like remind you ofsomething else.
It's like it just takes youright to that kind of scene.
Yep, so that's a little bitdifferent that's why I like
sitcoms and stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
That's why I still there's.
Oh, by the way, there's a newsitcom coming out tonight,
actually actually, that I'mready to watch.
It's with Tim Allen, so it's anew one Tim Allen, cat Dennings.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yes, yeah, I've seen the previews for it.
I don't know a ton about it, wejust really like Tim.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Allen in my house about everything he does Right.
So we're kind of ready for thatone.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, so I've seen a little bit here and there, but I
don't truly know what it'sabout, so I'll have to go check
that out at some point Hopefullyit's good.
I don't really have much towatch right now other than the
sports, so I need something.
So I'm okay if it's good.
I'll be fine with picking upsomething weekly, but right now
it's mainly football andbasketball and football.

(09:01):
We're slowing down, it isslowing down.
Nfl playoffs are getting readyto start, but college football,
we're down to the semifinals.
Yep, yeah so we've got one gameThursday, one game Friday.
Is that correct yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
that's right.
I actually looked at it just acouple hours ago because I
wanted to make sure.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
So who do we have Thursday to you I?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
didn't see the word, I really didn't pay it much
attention.
Penn State, oh, penn State,notre Dame, yeah, okay, yeah,
because Buckeyes play Texas onFriday.
They're Friday, that's right.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Because originally I saw it.
I thought it was going to beFriday, saturday and it ended up
being Thursday, friday, whichis a little bit odd for me.
It is a little like a week fromthis coming Monday.
Okay, and again I'm like we'redoing championships on a Monday
night.
It's going to end up being lateLike it's hard to do.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Is there an advantage in a one-day difference?
Like Ohio State and Texas playFriday, If they, you know
whoever goes on from there,they're a day less Less
preparation, less feeling inyour body.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I think some of that depends on how the game before
went Like for Notre Dame-PennState.
This is going to be a physicalgame.
I believe it's going to be avery physical game, so they
probably need that extra game.
Both teams want to just poundthe ball.
They're going to run it.
It's going to be kind of likethe Notre Dame-Georgia Right on
cue.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
I was going to say he came by right about the same
time as always.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Again, if you listen to this, I'll buy you a muffler.
Just come find us.
This is getting ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's every single week.
I don't know if you can hearhim on the podcast or not.
To be honest with you, Well, ifyou can't.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
there's a truck that drives by, and I feel like we've
talked about this like sixdifferent times now.
There's a truck that drives byhere where we record, and it is
so loud, and it's just this oldtruck no mufflers, just call me,
I'll hook you up.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I think the guy that I've seen driving it's fairly
young yeah, he's really young,he's like early 20s, I feel like
.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I've seen a couple times during the day, but
usually I feel like I only seehim, you know, later, later at
night.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, he must work a late shift or something coming
home, maybe, maybe.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well, back to the topic.
I know we get off topic reallyquickly around here.
I guess at this point we'rejust kind of proud of it.
I don't know, we're a littlebit all over the place.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Speaking of that, I wanted to ask no, I'm just
kidding, I was going to sayit'll go into something else, so
yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Notre Dame-Penn State is where we were.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I know you mentioned, I guess, james Franklin, coach
of Penn State, right Kind of notliking that Notre Dame had got
less games than them becausethey don't have a conference to
play in.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, so I saw it.
I think it was last night ortoday, I really can't remember.
It all kind of runs together.
But he's saying you know, we'rehere to represent our
conferences.
And then he's like wait, excuseme, we're here to represent our
conference because, notre Damebeing independent, they're not
representing anybody butthemselves.
So then he kind of just gotinto the quick little section of
you know, they've played anadditional game because of the

(11:51):
conference championship.
With Notre Dame not being in aconference, they can't play a
conference championship.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Well, do you think that is an actual advantage or
not?
Because we actually saw.
You know, we haven't talkedabout this yet all the
conference champions lost.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Every team that had a bye.
They had a bye.
But here's the thing Maybe withthe exception of Georgia, the
other three didn't even lookgood Like.
The start of Arizona State gamewas rough, second half was
better, but Texas did not lookgood in that game at all.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I don't believe in Texas.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
They're not the Buckeye fan.
They play Friday.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
But I've been saying all year long I don't think
Texas is as good as everybodythinks they are.
I know you're going to say,well, they should have won.
Arizona State to me was thebetter football team than Texas.
They just couldn't do anythingin the red zone.
They were struggling there.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Well and I mean you hear this If you like football
at all.
You've heard it a million timesGood teams can score in the red
zone.
That's what they say Now.
Again, if Arizona State winsthat game, they're not beating
Ohio State.
I don't think any other team inthe bracket Arizona State
really even matched up well withit's just that team they did I
just don't think Texas is anygood.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
We're going to find out Friday night.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I mean, here's the thing.
It's hard to say they're notany good, because they've made
it to the Final Four Likethey're in the top four.
But that's all about who youplay, but they also made it to
the SEC Championship game.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
And lost.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Agreed, but to the same, they've only been beat by
one team all year, which?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
is, but who did they?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
beat.
Okay, if we want to go intothat topic, then who did Penn
State beat?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Who did?
Notre Dame?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
beat.
You could go into that withevery team, Because even then
Oregon beat one good team.
All year they beat Ohio State.
No, I agree with you 100%.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
They should have lost that game too.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
So two-thirds of the team, if not more of the teams
in the playoff.
We could really get into thatargument, but that's one again.
We've said the playoffs have tomake some adjustments.
There's got to be someselection adjustments.
There's got to be somethingthat changes, because I don't

(13:57):
think we're actually on a badtrack.
I actually think it's turnedout fairly decent how it's fell
with everything, but it looksreally bad your first year that
the four buys there's alreadykind of a buy curse, like we
gotta wait till next year to seeif somebody can actually win so
, if I'm not mistaken, um thefour teams that are still in and
that final ranking, take outthe buys and all that correct.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
We're ranked three, four, five, six so you still
only have the top six in there,because one and two got knocked
out, correct.
So yeah, we brought in 12.
We didn't need 12.
Apparently, the first six wouldhave been fine.
Now it's been more fun.
Don't get me wrong.
I want the 12.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I would say, yeah, I think the biggest part is well
for the NCAA.
You know the money-h love theNCAA, don't you?
Don't get me started on theNCAA.
We'll be here a while.
I can't get onto that topicright now.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Oh, we found something else you don't like
this time.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, but there's a lot of things I do like, so
that's a little different.
The NCAA is making a ton ofmoney off this having the extra
games.
You know those first ones aretechnically not bowl games, so
they're still making money offthat kind of like a conference
championship week and thenmaking all the money on the bowl
game stuff where you get intothat next round.
And I'm not really sure how Ifeel about how the bowl games

(15:10):
are now.
They feel really weirdpositioning they do.
But I think the stadiums thathave hosted have been good for
the most part.
I think we've seen large enoughvenues that were pretty good.
Curious to see We've got asemifinal of Texas and Ohio
State in Texas.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, I saw a statistic where you know the
other three teams outside ofTexas are traveling like 1,200,
1,300 miles, Right, and Texas isgoing like 200 miles.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, they've not had to travel much at all.
Yeah, so that's got to be anadvantage.
Now they've also not lookedgood either in any of their
first games.
I'm telling you I don't believethem.
They beat a Clemson team thatreally probably shouldn't have
been there, but other than thatthey've really not been very
impressive.
Now, the start of the game, itlooked like Texas was going to

(15:58):
blow them out because it wasjust two plays, but they had one
big pass play Correct and thena punt return.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Right Two plays.
But they had one big pass playCorrect and then a punt return
Right.
But when you have somethinglike that pretty early, it's
easy to get it out of hand.
I think that's kind of a shockplay.
And again, arizona State hadthe buy.
They were sitting for a weekand I think that's part of it.
They've got to come back, getin the rhythm.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's kind of hard to say that because under the old
metrics, like back when we golike the bcs, they would have
over a month off like they'dfinish and then wouldn't play
their bowl game until but theyall like late january so now you
got some that are playingnecessarily because you, you own
the bcs.
You only had two, you two teams,so but they're both sitting, so

(16:37):
kind of like those four teamsdid.
But it's like I never like that, because I feel like at that
point you're almost having amini off season.
Yeah, it's just, there's a lotof things that can happen in
that amount of time.
So I did like that this one asa whole, even though they sat,
they sat a week, it wasn't likethey sat.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
It wasn't a ton they didn't sit this.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
You know two, three, four week time period.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
No, I agree with you there, but it clearly made a
difference or something it did.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
None, but it clearly made a difference or something
it did.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
None of those teams had the lead at all, did they?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
No.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Right from the beginning.
They just got pounced on.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
So again, it's really hard.
Georgia's out their quarterback.
That's the first start and I'vegot to say I thought I was
believing in Kirby Smart and Ithought he was going to come in
and still be fine.
I didn't think they had achance, because the kid, the kid
not that he's bad, he'sobviously at georgia, he's back
with georgia, so he's got to begood.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
But that's a different level and notre dame's
a solid I didn't think georgialooked good really anywhere like
I didn't feel like any.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
You know, faster than the game that was gonna that
was hard to me because I do feellike notre dame's a little
better than most people thought,because they came out really
confident and just kind of movedit.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
They did.
They just kind of did what theywanted to do.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
They played their game.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
But I think that could be that momentum from the
week before they kind of rolledinto a team they've been sitting
and just let's go.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well, that's, I think , the toughest thing for Oregon.
Oregon, being undefeated allyear, didn't have a weak sit
Ohio State in that Tennesseegame.
They found something.
They found some offense.
They found some offense, theyfound some rhythm on defense,
sending some pressure.
So then it's like, okay, well,now we're just going to do the
exact same thing, because Oregonoffensively plays very similar
to Tennessee.
They like to sling it, they'vegot a good running back, you

(18:14):
know all those kind of things.
So for Oregon it's tough.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Arizona State was one they kind of just squeaked in
at the very end of the season,so that's not really one we were
watching.
They did the same one.
Yeah, nobody even thought thatwas going to be in for the very
end.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Now, if we kind of go back, I said about Penn State
early on, Penn State andTennessee remind me a lot of
each other.
They play really really gooddefense for the most part, other
than Tennessee, Ohio State,whatever, Played really really

(18:47):
good defense.
Tennessee just got a buzzsaw,but Tennessee can usually score
more points.
Right now Penn State's scoringa decent amount of points, but
they still didn't look greatagainst Boise.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
State's defense.
They didn't just put up pointseasily.
So before we get into ourpredictions on what's coming up
here in a couple days, anythingoutside of all of the bye teams
getting taken out, anythingsurprise you.
Anybody you thought was betterthan you originally realized.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I think the biggest thing for me is seeing Notre
Dame playing really smoothly,like they're just kind of doing
it pretty easy right now.
I agree with that.
I think, from looking at whatthe playoff has been so far, if
we don't get Notre Dame-OhioState final, we've missed out.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh, that would be the end.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Because I think that game has potential to be
unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
And I do think that's where we're headed.
So I'm kind of skipping it alittle bit.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, so you're kind of going into your predictions
there.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
You just teed it up.
Yeah, no, I agree, but itsounds like you agree with me?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, so that's my thought, because if we go back
and look at the Notre Damelosing to Northern Illinois,
that's a fluke.
Looking at it now it's like allright, that was just and that's
fairly early in the season.
They just ran into a team atthe wrong time and since then
Notre Dame has not looked likethey could miss a beat Like
they've just been doing whateverthey want.

(20:10):
You know they've got a reallygood running back.
They've got another transferquarterback that's playing
pretty strong.
Did really well against theGeorgia defense, who's been
pretty dang good all year,probably other than the Alabama
game.
Gave up quite a bit of pointsin that Alabama game, but as a
whole Notre Dame has just lookedreally really good.
So as a Buckeye fan, I ampicking Ohio State to beat Texas

(20:33):
.
That's a game that kind ofmakes me nervous because Notre
Dame could very easily win.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
That's going to be a good game and, like you said, I
hope that's where we end up.
I do too, At that point again.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I'm going to cheer for Ohio State every single time
I can, but if a team like NotreDame was to win, that doesn't
upset me.
No, it doesn't I don't want tosee a Penn State win, because
that's the conference?
I don't want Ohio State to notbe the best team ending in that
conference.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
There's one thing I noticed in the Penn State game
Okay, their quarterback.
One thing I noticed in the PennState game Okay, their
quarterback.
And I don't know his name ForPenn State yes, drew Aller.
Okay, he whines about everysingle thing that happens on the
field.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
So when I watched the Boise State game, he's very
emotional about some very smallthings.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
And I try to find myself trying to think is that
him or is that the day and agethat we're in?
Because I mean, I don't see itwith everybody, but it is more
common, you see, guys that areconstantly talking to our ref
like hey, why aren't you callingit's like all right, well, you
can't call everything Everysingle play.
There's not always a penalty.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
He just stuck out more with every single play.
I feel like he was alwayswhining about it, upset about
something.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
He's one that announced pretty early he's
coming back, is he Okay?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
That's one thing he can work on.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
He's not a strong enough quarterback nationally.
That I'm like all right, well,that's scary, he's good, he's
got a lot of experience.
But Penn State makes their nameon defense.
We know this.
They've played Ohio Statereally good the past few years
defensively.
They've not been able to scorepoints.
So that's kind of what I saidat the beginning of the playoff
If Penn State can score points,they're trouble.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I'm really glad we're not seeing more Big Ten against
each other, like we saw withOregon and Ohio.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
State.
I want to see the conferencesmixed up.
I want to see the games that wekind of missed out on
throughout the year, which,though Ohio State, texas is the
season opener next year.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Ohio State, texas is week one next year, but where at
, I don't know.
I meant to look that up becauseI have a feeling it will be
neutral site.
I highly doubt they're going todo a home-and-home.
I wish A home-and-home would beway better.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Maybe they'll go to Atlanta or something like that.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, hopefully it's not in Texas again.
I think Alabama or Georgiausually gets the Atlanta game,
that's right they do, they'll doit somewhere.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I just hope it's not in Texas again.
Put it in Nashville orsomething Kind of middle.
Put it somewhere we can go, letClemson host.
We'll go down there, just downthe mountain.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
That's really easy.
So no, but I also think that'sa different Texas team for next
year.
That's Arch Manning's teamperiod.
I don't think there's anyarguing at this point.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Both teams, though they're going to lose a lot of
players.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
So Howe State is going to lose a lot.
But I just mean as far asoffensively looking at Texas
throughout the year.
I don't know if Quinn Ewershasn't been healthy, but he to
me doesn't look like he wants tobe there, like he doesn't look
like he's just, you know, likehe was the past couple of years.
But he's also getting offers of$4 million, $6 million from who
knows which.

(23:36):
You know the whole NIL slashfree agency, whatever you want
to call it.
You know that's what thetransfer window is at this point
.
So I'm curious to see where hegoes, who pays for it and what
he does there.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Well, so now you've got two topics in my head.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I'm trying to figure out which one to go with Again,
all over the place.
You never know.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
So it reminded me one thing about Georgia their
receivers couldn't catchanything, and so that hurt that
quarterback too.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
The timing is very different from a different
quarterback, I agree, but it hittheir hands, it hit their body.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
And they just could not hang on to it.
They were having an off night.
Georgia is just not.
They don't have the same, Iguess, talent that they normally
have.
I hate to say that becausethey're still really talented.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
So that's what I said at the beginning of the year
about Georgia.
In wide receiver and tight ends, they tight ends.
They're not nearly as strong asthey typically are, not that?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
those guys are bad, obviously Because they're
spreading around there.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Part of that.
Look what they lost with thelad McConkie kid, Brock Bowers
kid.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
That's what it's going to be.
We've talked about it severaltimes.
I kind of like it.
I don't like what it does tosome of the teams?
I guess you don't know who'sgood and it mixes everything up.
Some of the teams, I guess youdon't know who's good and it
mixes everything up, but thatreminds me that I saw linebacker
for Florida.
I don't know if you've seenthis, no, he said here's my
demands.
This is what I want.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yes, actually, I take that back.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
He basically said I want to play at Florida if you
give me this, if you do this andhe said I want $45,000 a month,
I want to be the startingoutside linebacker, I want to
play more in possessions and Iwant to be in on every third
down.
Yes, and they said no, and he'sin the transfer portal.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
So I mean so basically, for me that basically
shows okay, every team in thecountry now knows his demands.
If you'll meet it, he'll go,He'll go.
If they'll meet it at BrevardCollege, he'll go.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
At this point he just wants the money.
He put it out there to Floridaand maybe they all put it out
there to their team.
I don't know if it all getsleaked.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
That's a very behind-closed-door thing.
I'm not really sure.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I'm not really sure how that works, just like
talking about Texas quarterbackand everything I'm sure they all
have.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
here's what I want, and if you can't do it, I'm
going to go to somebody thatwill.
I think, though, for Texas,that's a really, really hard
problem.
Manning sitting one year okay,I get it.
He's not going to sit again, soyou either get Quinn for one
more, or you get Manning forpotentially two.
For me, I would take Manningfor two especially knowing that

(26:06):
the kid's super talented.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I want to see what he can do, because you're gonna
have to pay you're paying themboth.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, to be there.
Yeah, so that's how I do becausenow you don't have money to pay
some of the other guys andstuff well, me and my brother
were actually talking about thisuh, last week on our way to uh
the wrestling show that happenedover in asheville br.
You know Brad, my brother'shuge, huge wrestling fan, so we
had a, we had a good time goingto that show and he made the
comment the Manning family is isrunning that kid like a

(26:34):
business and they are doing afantastic job at it.
I have to say that's the way itis now right, they are doing a
great job.
Very protective of him With thewhole EA Sports college
football game.
He wasn't going to be involvedfor a long time.
And at some point they came backwith a money amount that was

(26:55):
enough to say, yes, he wasopting out, he wasn't going to
be in the game at all.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
That's crazy that he was able to do that, and he's
not even a starting quarterbackright now.
Correct Now he will be andeverybody knows he will be
Exactly, he's a Manning.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
There's already been three of them.
We're waiting for number fourto come through.
So yeah, they are running himlike a business but job.
Now a lot of these other kidsaren't necessarily that
marketable.
They don't have the pedigreethat came before Archie, peyton,
eli.
That's a little different.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
But what happens when a kid puts out these demands
and another school doesn't comegive them to you?
In Florida's case, does Floridatake him back if nobody says,
yeah, we'll pay that If helowers his demands.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
No, I'm sure there's some renegotiation.
You do see at times thatsomebody will enter the transfer
portal and then drop out andstay.
It's not super common anymore,but it does still happen.
It does happen some, so I'msure there's some back and forth
.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
There has to be a hard feeling, don't there?

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Like no, you wanted to leave us you know, why are
you coming back now?
So for me, unless you're likefor me, there probably would be,
but I don't know if they reallycan, because it like, like we
just said, it's a, it's abusiness at this point, like
it's a business decision,they're not really playing for
pride of colors and pride of youknow, I want to play at this
school.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, a lot of these guys are going for the money, so
like and I'm just going to keepusing the guy in florida
because talked about his but sohe asked for $45,000 stuff,
right, nobody gives it to him.
He comes back to you know, ifFlorida offered him $25,000.
And he's like no, no, no, don'tdo it.
Okay, now he comes back toFlorida.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
No, $25,000 is not there anymore.
Now it's $10,000.
Like I feel worth, are we goingto get as much out of him for
25 as we would to try to go findsomebody?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
else, I agree with that.
So then it'd be like all right,yeah, we'll go to that number,
yeah, so yeah, I don't know.
I just feel like there'd haveto be hard feelings for your
teammates, or now.
I guess it happens all the timein professional sports

(28:59):
contracts.
Yes, it's all very.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
I actually saw somebody saying that we've been
saying forever contracts, gottahave contracts.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Need a buyout, need all this right.
Um man, I don't remember who itwas.
Now, there was a coach.
Oh, it was.
Uh, yukon's women's, uh,basketball, uh, ariyama.
No, the old coach, uh, gene gino, gino, yeah okay, yeah, yeah,
you're right yeah, I wasthinking okay of course I am, oh
gosh I'm using my lines exactlythat's why I did it I didn't

(29:27):
think the last name didn't click, you said it, but um yeah, he
was the one saying like we mightas well just make contracts now
and he said of course coachescan go wherever, but we have
buyouts, we have contracts.
So let's put buyouts in the kitI was was going to say Thank
you.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
That's what.
I want that to me makes a lotof sense, because then you can
kind of control the money flowtoo.
So if this kid asks for thatnumber, if it's in the contract,
okay, there it is.
If then you can have contractnegotiation.
We can't transfer unless youpay your buyout.

(30:00):
You or the school or somebodySay he had a one-year contract
and then they're going torenegotiate that next year and
he's saying well, for this newcontract, here's what I need.
Then they can have somenegotiation.
Now the only thing I'm confusedat on the contract side how
would they then treatarbitration?
Because that's a wholedifferent thing.
You open up a lot of stuff, butor do you have arbitration?

(30:21):
At that point, you basicallyjust say if we can't come to one
, you just don't play.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
It's got to be better than it is now, or at least
worth giving a try.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I agree it's not going to be perfect, no matter
how we do it, but something'sgot to change for sure.
Something's got to give yeah,for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So before we get completely off topic, I think we
already said it, but I'm sayingBuckeyes Notre Dame moving into
the final.
I want to see Buckeye and Irishfinal I don't want to see it,
no, but I think that's what'sgoing to happen too.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
That's what I'm thinking, yeah, so after
watching last week's games, Iwas sitting in Red Lobster
watching Ohio State play.
I don't know the last time I'vebeen to Red Lobster.
Oh, you're missing out.
You're missing out.
It was so good, it was so good.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Last time I went there I got a steak, I think.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Hang on, hang on Hang on, I'm going to stop talking
about what I was talking about,because I had to go to this.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I knew you was going to.
Why do you?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
go to a seafood restaurant and get a steak.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I'm not a big seafood person.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I do like fish.
Now, again, I will say this thereal reason to go to Red
Lobster is those biscuits.
The biscuits, those are good,they are fantastic.
No, but I mean, I love shrimp.
I absolutely love shrimp.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I like popcorn shrimp from Long John's.
Does that count?
I?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
actually had popcorn shrimp that night because they
didn't have another one that Iwould usually get.
But I had shrimp scampi, somepopcorn shrimp and some shrimp
linguine alfredo.
Yeah, it was all fantastic.
The only shrimp I'll eat isfrom Long John's.
It made up for our horribleLonghorn experience.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
the week prior.
Oh, yes, that was bad.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
So last week to have Red Lobster, which basically we
ended up going to the AEWwrestling match in Asheville.
It was a big Hurricane Helenesupport thing.
Actually a few of the guys gavea couple of different $25,000
checks to some local basicallylocal entities that are doing a

(32:20):
lot of big things in theAsheville.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Bumper Town area, the hurricane relief and stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah yeah, it was a couple of some of the guys that
are actually.
They still live in that area.
Yeah, and they gave some reallyreally big checks.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Well, there's several of those guys, I think, in this
area Cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, one was your neighbor for a while.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
He wasn't real big, yet he wasn't three houses over.
So he kind of was, but hewasn't on the main scene, yet
Actually I drove by his house acouple of times and it's weird
because it's like a dead end.
You have to turn around andcome back.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Oh yeah, it doesn't go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
But he would do like a live stream on his porch.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I'm like, oh, he's like right over there One day he
come driving by in his truckwith his windows down and
actually had his tag teampartner with him in the truck.
Okay, I'm driving by the houseand, uh, so, yeah, yeah, so they
they now live over in asheville, yeah, and they were obviously
at the show basically talkedabout how their their head,
honcho boss, was all set to havethis match on hbo, hbo max for

(33:14):
the first time they have a dealwith them now, and it was going
to be in some big metropolitanand they were talking about
wanting to do a show to supportthe community and he said, nope,
don't worry about it.
He said we'll take that showthere, and so it was really cool
because that arena is tiny.
So I mean, we got pretty cheaptickets and everywhere you can
see.
From the guy next to me I don'tknow what he was tripping on,

(33:37):
but he does.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I guarantee he doesn't remember that night you
say was he one of those reallegit wrestling fans um?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I don't think he was a real legitimate wrestling fan.
Now the guy three rows behindus, he was a real, legit
wrestling fan he had every chanthe had.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
You can point those guys out and he was so loud.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I know brad said he went back and was watching some
of the the stuff on tv, justkind of.
You know, his daughter want toknow if we we made it onto tv
anywhere.
And he said you can hear theguy behind us the entire night
yelling over the broadcast andI'm like that's awesome.
But no, it was.
It was a lot of fun.
But um, yeah, back to redlobster.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Uh, you know, you and your steak at red lobster, um I
guess I would get fish there,but I don't think it's as good,
as I've had some fish and chipsover at a place in Georgia over
north of the land on the lake.
That was amazing.
Now I'm getting hungry.
Anyways, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
We talked about food too much.
All that to go back and say waswatching Ohio State Oregon in
Red Lobster I know, I rememberthat, but I can't remember where
I was going with that, but as awhole when I finished.
I know where I'm at now.
I was lost that bad.
After finishing both of thosegames to see who was going to be

(34:51):
in the Final Four, I felt itwas going to be Ohio State,
notre Dame.
The whole time Watching theirgames, they looked like the two
best remaining.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
They did.
And I get a feeling even fromnational media just online and
different things, you see, kindof what everybody else is trying
to push.
Everybody kind of feels thatway too.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I just think the way they're both playing I mean Ohio
State right now they're playingbetter than they've played the
past two years.
Notre Dame has gotten hot atthe right time as well.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Is this going to become like the tournament?
Being a Kentucky basketball fan, we always heard Cal for years
In the season.
It doesn't really matter, it'sabout the tournament.
It's about March.
It's about March.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Is it going to?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
somewhat.
Be that way with football.
As long as you get in, justplay your best football, then
Everything else doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I don't know that you can really do it with that,
because where you're seatedmeans a lot Like that Texas team
.
If they had to go down and playGeorgia again, or they got
seated to play Penn State orwhatever, I don't think they'd
make it.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
I could see that with your seat a little bit yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I think the seed means more because it's
different, like with basketball,there's four of every seed,
it's a big tournament.
More because it's different,like with basketball, there's
four of every seed, it's a bigtournament.
There's 68 teams.
Now, that's a lot.
Don't get me started on some ofthe seeding.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Let's expand it.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Why is there play-ins for number 10, seeds Right?
I say this all the time 16shave play-ins.
I've found that I don't care.
But why does anybody higherhave a play-in?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
That makes no sense.
If Anybody higher have a place,that makes no sense.
If you have to play to get inthe tournament, correct, you
should be number 10.
Okay, so if you win, you'renumber 10.
If you lose, you're out.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah good luck in the NIT, which at that point you
don't even get to go to the NITbecause you were selected.
If you're good enough to playinto a 10, when you lose.
Maybe you're 11, 12, that.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
I'm glad you hate something with me here this time
.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Usually it's me hating stuff.
There's some stuff we hatetogether but you hate so much
it's hard to be with you oneverything.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
No, I just tell you, I hate it.
You probably hate as much.
You just don't tell it.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
A lot of things I don't have as strong a feeling
as you do about it.
I may not hate it If I don'tcare for.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I have facts.
That's what I keep trying totell you.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I'm waiting to hear a fact, a correct fact.
I'm sorry Fact to you, but it'snot correct.
I got a fact for you right now.
Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
This is going to be right up your alley.
It's food.
It's a place.
You like Taco Bell.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Hang on A place I like that's a strong term,
because taco bell is one ofthose like I don't have time,
it's cheap and I don't care whatI'm eating you go to taco?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
no, but you will go to taco bell or some of the
others that when you're justgetting enough fast food
something if we're, if we're inbrevard, yes, elsewhere.
No, so well, let me ask this.
Okay, I I saw an ad.
Okay, the Taco Bell now hascrispy nuggets and they're
delicious.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Have you had them?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yes, I don't know that I can go to Taco Bell and
order nuggets.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Do you know what they are?
No, I don't.
It's like going to KFC.
They taste exactly like KFC'sold nuggets not the current ones
.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Isn't the same company owned by them?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yes, it's owned by Pepsi.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
So they're just kind of throwing some chicken over
here Wait a minute.
Does that mean we can startgetting quesadillas at KFC?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Throw some of that chicken in there, I'm all for it
.
I'll try it.
Crispy chicken in thequesadilla I'll try that.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I don't know.
I though I did get the burger.
I think you got it with me onetime at Arby's.
Didn't think I could do it.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
I don't know, that's a little different because
Arby's just has so manydifferent kinds of meat.
Arby's is beef.
They're like primarily theroast beef place, but they carry
beef and pork and all thosethings.
They are a meat central placefor sure.
They do the fish, they do theham, they do well, I could

(38:43):
almost see taco bell maybehaving some kind of grilled
chicken in a bowl or something.
Well, just these crispy chickennuggets.
They've got like two differenttypes of chicken and then now
they have these nuggets andthey're actually really good see
so you do go there, becauseyou've already tried the nuggets
well, so we were.
I was during christmas, me andamanda were going christmas
shopping.
Uh, the boys were at my parents, so we went through Taco Bell
as the last thing on the way out.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Was it a surprise or did you already know they had
the nuggets?
I had no clue.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
We pulled up and was like why does Taco Bell have
nuggets, which, again Taco Bell?
For a while they've beenbouncing in and out the fries.
It's weird to me that they havefries.
That's odd, it is I Todd.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
It is.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
It is, I guess, they the chicken nuggets is awesome
to have, but we got like areally small order just to try
them and they were actually.
They were really good, Reallygood.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
The the cheese with the fries helped me a little bit
, Cause they had the littleseasoning on the fries and the
cheese.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I get that cheese with everything.
Oh, I agree, that cheese makeseverything better.
I'm not getting nuggets.
All of their, all of theirsauces are like trying to be a
very okay they're taco bellstyle.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
No said don't sell me .

Speaker 1 (39:43):
No, you're not supposed to sell nuggets if you
don't have barbecue sauce withit now I'll tell you this I want
to try those nuggets and dip itin the cheese.
I didn't do that.
That would probably be goodcheese and chicken breaded
chicken.
Yeah, I'm not feeling it everput cheese on a chicken sandwich
we already talked about mysandwich bread stuff yeah, we'll

(40:05):
ask will if you've had a ham?

Speaker 2 (40:05):
sandwich, because I knew that's where you were
thinking we'll ask will ifyou've had a ham sandwich?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I've taken a lot because I think every time
you've talked to him in the pastweek that's his first question,
not even a question.
He just says I know you didn'thave a ham sandwich.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Well, so you know this For the longest time I
didn't go to any restaurant andeat chicken.
I was all over it.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Oh no, I know you didn't.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
And the only reason I started doing it is kind of got
tired of the fast food burgers.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
when we're just grabbing fast food somewhere,
that Well I would say, yeah, youdefinitely bounce around to
Zaxby's more than you used toLike.
You've actually gotten whereyou kind of like it.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I just need some choices.
It's your favorite?

Speaker 1 (40:48):
But you were for a while.
Zaxby's was not even an optionfor you because it was just
chicken.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Like it didn't matter to you.
Yeah, my computer just freakedout of here.
I'm not sure what, maybe I'm uh, I heard it do something.
Yeah, maybe I'm just growing upa little bit, finally, almost
40 we had this conversationabout your uh dino nuggies, so I
don't want to hear nothingabout that.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
My kid loves the dino nuggies and he thinks hilarious
when I say that.
So now I can't not say it thatway and they're not like it's.
It's no different than justbuying a chicken nugget shaped
like a chicken nugget.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
That reminds me.
You just you're clicking allkinds of stuff in my brain today
, which is crazy, but Clickingon all cylinders.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
I'm always I don't know Firing all cylinders.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
So actually I bought some of these today.
I bought Uncrustables.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I bought some today.
I do.
So Uncrustable for those whodon't know I'm sure everybody
knows they're calling for SnowFriday, so I had to go to the
grocery store and get somethings.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
We had no bread right here at the local grocery store
and I had to get these littlebitty loaves?
Yeah, I had to get these littlebitty two loaves for that three
, but I had like six bucks and Ilost my bread.
They have some more at the bigone in town.
Oh, Uncrustable is like afrozen pre-made peanut butter
and jelly sandwich real quick.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Grape or strawberry grape?
Okay, thank you.
I don't need no strawberry, Ijust had to ask some people do
that.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
I'm just going to tell you, if you eat strawberry
Uncrustable, just go ahead andturn us off right now we're not
for you, that's not our taste.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Sorry guys, I'm just kidding.
Anyways, brian will be clippingthat one for next week, by the
way and we're going to.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
always Brian's been killing it on social media.
So thank you, brian, for that.
I keep thinking I'm going totext him and I'm busy doing
something and I forget, and thenit's late.
I'm like I don't want to buy it.
I try to like my my text to himis me liking it, like, yeah,
that's it peanut butter andjelly sandwich, yep.
So a few days ago I'm in thekitchen Obviously, no crusts, no

(42:38):
crusts, yeah, no crusts.
I'm in the kitchen and I'mthinking, man, I want a peanut
butter and jelly sandwich, yep.
And I open the freezer and Idon't see any uncrustables.
I'm like man, I could make itthe old-fashioned way.
I got bread, I got peanutbutter, I got.
I was like I don't really wantto do that, so I open my freezer
again and I start looking again.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
You're scrounging at that point.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
I'm like I do not want to make this by hand.
You know the old-fashioned wayLike how hard is it When's?

Speaker 1 (43:04):
the last time you had an actual peanut butter and
jelly oh recently Becausethey're so good.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I would rather have it than the Uncrustable.
Like I love a peanut butter,still didn't find nothing.
I'm like, fine, okay, I'm gonnamake one, I'm just gonna do it
all.
Right, you broke down so I getthe stuff out.
My wife comes by, she's liketold her what I was doing.
She's like I don't think wehave any bread.
I look we didn't have any breadand I stopped my go.
You know, I'm not really thatupset because I didn't want to

(43:30):
make it anyway.
It just kept me from having tomake it, it made me think how
have we come as a society thatif I can't go get a frozen
peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it's too hard for me to make
it Like I'm not?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
going to eat it.
Listen, that's such an easyanswer.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
We are so lazy as a society today.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Like everything.
Like kids don't do homework,they have AI do it.
Chat GPT is writing papers likecrazy.
At this point I don't know howteachers do it, but yeah, I mean
, we've been lazy forever.
Why do you think fast food ismulti-billion?
Dollar companies, because it'sjust so much easier.
Especially when you're on thego, it's way easier to just hop
through.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I remember this comedian.
It was a little boy, his dadwrote his stuff or whatever and
he was kind of doing he's likereally Lunchables.
How hard is it to make asandwich and pack us lunch, you
know Right.
But that's what we've become isall Lunchables, uncrustables.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
That's the shots fired.
I sent a Lunchable today forlunch, oh did you?
Yeah, my oldest had one whichhe really does love a Lunchable.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
So every now and then we'll put one in his lunch to
go, but they make so many ofthem stuff in them, right?
Whether it's that healthy, Idon't know about that oh healthy
gosh no uh, but it's just,we've we've come there and I
there's a uh comedian that Ithink you like to uh nate
bargatze.
Yep, um, yeah, he's coming toashville soon, is he?
I hate he was looking at mywife because she's like, oh, we
gotta go see him when he comes.

(44:50):
Uh, no, wait ash.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
No, I think it's greenville.
Greenville, yeah, yeah, becausewe're probably gonna buy
tickets.
We love that he keepseverything clean.
Oh, yeah, he's very funny andstuff.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
But he told the joke one time about watching a
football game and he goes to thefridge and while he's gone the
guy runs a 100-yard touchdown.
He's like I couldn't even go tothe fridge and he's like
they're trying to tackle him.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
I he was basically talking about being out of
breath, going to therefrigerator, and this guy just
ran 100 yards and beat him fromthe couch to the refrigerator.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
But that's the way it is anymore.
Oh, 100%.
And that's what I thought ofmaking this peanut butter and
jelly sandwich.
I'm like, how bad have I?

Speaker 1 (45:26):
become.
Look at society.
We are so lazy we won't even gothrough fast food.
We get on our phone and ordersomebody to bring us the fast
food.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
And it ain't like a pizza delivery guy.
It's a random person drivingaround town.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Exactly, and that in itself is a multi-billion dollar
business.
And don't worry, I'm not hatingon like DoorDash or Uber Eats
or any of those things, becauseI've used them Especially, like
I like doing it in big cities Idrive for Uber sometimes.
I would say you've done thatfor a little bit.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Not Uber DoorDash, uber doordash.
Yeah, so I was thinking of uber, because we I was thinking that
we used to say don't get incars of strangers.
Now we just order them on ourphone I was gonna say we pull on
our phone.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Please send me a stranger to this address and
take me home and get in the backseat with you.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's its own mess, but yeah no, so
I've run, run doordash a littlebit here and there, just you
know, just because, but, um, butyeah, I thought that was funny
and but today I boughtUncrustables, so I don't have to
worry about making it.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Well, so I was just.
My thought on buying them todaywas literally my little one
likes them.
My older one only likes peanutbutter sandwich.
He just doesn't like jelly.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Little one he likes them both Uncrustables.
They need to make like a peanutbutter.
Only that's such a waste.
I mean clearly there's a market.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Your kid likes it.
One kid yep, we're making itfor the one kid.
Can't make it for for all those, but they've.
They've got some weirduncrustables, so that really
wouldn't be that odd for themyeah they've got that one.
It's like chocolate orsomething, I don't know?

Speaker 2 (46:48):
oh, I did see that one.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I've never tried it, or maybe it's more like a
nutella type thing, I'm notreally sure.
Yeah, um, but no, that doesn'tlook good to me.
I don't really like that kindof stuff.
Pb&j yeah, keep it simple.
I'll tell you what I did noticeon them.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Very random fact I didn't notice this until
recently that they have jelly inthe middle and peanut butter on
both sides of the bread I waslike, oh, that's why it tastes
so good.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Now, do you wait for them to completely thaw before?

Speaker 2 (47:08):
you eat.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I would prefer like them to be thawed oh no, if they
are fully like a softuncrustable, they're not good.
Like you have to like crunchthrough the peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
That's what makes it good they just buy crunchy
peanut butter no, that's verydifferent.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
That's very different .
That's the.
Then you're actually thepeanuts.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
You want frozen peanut butter yeah, frozen
peanut butter delicious yeah, Ilove it.
I guess most of the time Idon't have the patience, so I do
eat them that way, but I'dprefer to be thawed out well,
but again, uncrustables aredesigned for children to put
them in their lunch box and thenthey're, you know, thawed by
lunch.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
That's I, you know.
I hadn't thought of that.
Oh my gosh, how have you notthought about it?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
it's designed for children.
I just thought it was so theywould keep longer, because I
have tried buying them, puttingthem in the fridge because I
don't like them as cold and getthem out and they're not as good
after a couple days, likethey're just not as good.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
I've never tried putting them in the fridge.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, don't do it.
You buy them in the freezersection, so I assume when you
get home we should put them inthe freezer.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, so that's why I assumed they were frozen to
just keep them in the freezerlonger.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
The fridge.
They just going to melt and besoggy.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
You know, I don't know what the clock says, but
you know how long we've had aconversation about peanut butter
and jelly sandwichesUncrustables.
Welcome to Not Abused folks.
I just realized we're going onand on about peanut butter and
jelly.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
We've been on red lobster, we've been on peanut
butter and jelly, we've talkedabout ham sandwiches.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Briefly, we're a little everywhere.
We don't have anything elseimportant going on in the world.
You know, getting to have a newpresident, college football,
going on basketball.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, I was going to say we're super worried about
certain things.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Uncrustable is where it's at you know, wait, hang on.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
You said there's nothing new going on.
There's something very new.
That happened last night.
Okay, the TGL had their firstround, or first match of the
season, so I didn't watch it.
Well, honestly, we've nottouched on it.
You went to theGeorgia-Kentucky beating.

(49:05):
That happened last night.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
What is a beating it was physical.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
We can talk about that in a minute.
So TGL first match, you had theBay Golf Club and somebody else
.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Honestly, honestly I've been waiting on this,
really enjoyed it if you don'teven know who it was I was.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
I've been really excited about this because I
think it's a great idea and Ithink there's ways to make it
really good.
So then, obviously, this wassupposed to start last year and
the stadium got destroyed instorms, so it got.
They were like look, we can'tget it done in time, it's going
to interfere with too much.
We're going to push.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
What you're saying is they actually had a whole
nother year to get this togetheryeah, and and again.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
I like tiger, I like rory.
We missed, they have absolutelymissed on this.
Um, I honestly don't know whothe mc was.
He was awful, okay, like so assoon as we started the broadcast
.
The first 15 minutes of this newleague was nothing Like we

(50:06):
talked to players, we talkedabout the league and I
understand you've got to getsome info out there because
there's not a ton.
But to me it's almost likelet's put the info out as it's
happening.
That to me, just makes moresense, like I read somewhere
today and I laughed because likewow, this is perfect.
They said the first 15 minutesfelt like reading the
instructions to a board game andthen, starting and still not

(50:28):
knowing what's going on?

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Hey, that happens a lot and I was like that's
actually exactly how it was.
That's the only thing I reallyknow about it.
I've seen a couple little clips, nothing major, and then a lot
of people kind of complainingabout the broadcast itself.
But so is that your complaintto the broadcast, or how was the
gameplay on the no?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
so to me the broadcast isn't great, but the
broadcast, I think, can improveover time, like that's something
that we've noticed.
If you really think back to wayback when you're a kid, some
people that's further thanothers.
But football broadcast,basketball broadcast Are you
calling some of us old.
I'm not really calling you old,More in my head.
Actually I was going to Brian.
Sorry, Brian.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
He's older than both of us.
Shots fired already on Brian.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
But he made a comment that time about being older
than we are and whatever.
But when you think about thosetimes, no-transcript.
The problem is, this is a veryfuturistic, you know fun golf

(51:31):
thing and we basically turned itinto just a regular old golf
publication, like it was.
Just it felt like I waswatching a tournament, just in a
different setting.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
So it was too just, too.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
So the technology wasn't enough to kind of say
that the technology is cool, butit's, it's flashy and that's
really that's going to wear offsoon.
So the product itself with thattechnology has to be good.
And I mean, I'll be honest withyou, most of these golfers are
not big personality guys, likethey're just not the guys that
you just want to sit there.
Now, the group that we had lastnight I think there are some

(52:03):
more you get some JustinThomases.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Did they have any of those guys mic'd up or anything?
Every one of them, okay, so thewhole time, oh yeah, yeah, so
the announcer.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
they had the Barry guy, scott Sean I can't remember
his first name.
He was there.
He's basically like 85 feetaway from these guys or 85 yards
away from these guys and theytalked like most of the night.
Shane Lowry was kind of one ofthe funny parts.
He actually took his headsetout because he was the very
first shot on it and he said Iwas so nervous I'd take my
headset out because I was afraidlike I was gonna be doing too

(52:34):
many things at once but so like,how was it so they hit into the
screen and then they go putt no.
so basically the way you startit, for those of you that didn't
watch, there's a lot of youknow nuances of it, but really
quick synopsis if you wereoutside outside of 130 yards,
you use the back tee box.
Okay.
If you are inside of 130, butoutside of 50, you use the front

(52:58):
tee box and then, if you'reinside of 50, you will play it
on the actual green and the areabehind you.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
It sounds like you're explaining the PGA point system
to me right now.
It's too much.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
The way it plays is actually not that bad.
They have custom made courses,uh, custom made holes that are,
all you know, have the sameshape of green, the green itself
.
They can rotate it.
Okay, it's on a giant floorthat just spins, so there's real
bunkers.
They actually what I didn'trealize till this past week week
they're not hitting off mats,they're hitting off real grass.
Oh, they bring squares likethey have a, you know, a grow on

(53:32):
on site that they, you know,switch them out and do all this.
So that that was kind of cool.
But again, I don't feel likethat was super necessary, like I
just kind of feel that's alittle bit over the top and
they're like oh, you know, proshave to hit it.
Well, here's my thing.
They're in florida, they're ina climate controlled arena.
Everyone, everyone was wearingpants.
Yeah, why is it so formal?
Like I want to see these guyscutting up, goofing off, talking

(53:56):
trash, you know, like they'rehanging out on the course with
their friends on the weekend,not like they're in another
tournament.
Like they tried to make it toojust strict feeling.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I enjoy the technology.
You know we've put that at 4UGolf and some things.
We had the simulator for awhile 100%.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I enjoy that part.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
But I was never really truly intrigued like, oh,
I got to watch this.
When it comes out Like Ithought it might be cool, but it
was never like I got to watchthis.
The differences of halftechnology.
Half reel inside of a dome.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
I don't necessarily get it.
I like the idea of the halfreel because it just kind of
makes it a little bit more funto watch if you're there.
I think if you're there itcould be a better product.
But for it to translate on TV Ithink we've got to figure out.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Was it really slow?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
No, I mean not really .
So they only made it to I, notreally.
They only made it to.
I don't even think they made itto hole 10.
It was a butt-whipping lastnight.
The one team won 7-1.
It wasn't even close.
Basically, if you make a betterscore than the other team on a
hole, you get a point.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I remember you telling me some points.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yeah, pretty simple as far as the scoring system
goes.
But the guys that they had lastnight even mic'd up there's not
much personality, uh, so it'skind of boring.
The guys they had, you know oneteam xander shoffley, ricky
fowler and uh, matt fitzpatrickyou might as well watch paint
dry talking to those guys.

(55:25):
Yeah, like ricky's fine whenhe's with jt and speith, but not
by himself.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Like he's just not that I think that's part of it.
You got to put the right groupstogether.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Well, and for me it's like all right night one.
I understand Tiger didn't wantto play, Roy didn't want to play
because they created this thing.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
They are part owners.
They are ahead of this.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
So I'm like all right , I understand why they're not
playing Somebody with somepersonality and some real draw.
These guys didn't have thatdraw.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I get that.
But if you created this, youshould be there night one
showing it off.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Well, they're there.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
No, but I mean they should be playing in it showing
it off.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
So to me, if that's me, I want to be there.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
I want to be one of the first guys hitting.
If you tell me Tiger is nightone, maybe I want to check it
out.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I want to see Tiger on the set.
Just shy of a million, it'slike 919 000, which was 200 000
more than the duke game prior.
That came on just before it, soI mean it had some views.
Yeah, it's just night.
One means nothing.
What's it going to be in sixweeks?
Yeah, like how many viewers arewe going to have six weeks?
And if it's continuing thecontinuing the way it is
currently, it'll be a half.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
That and that's the way I I am just from what I've
heard from you, but also whatI've seen online and stuff.
Yeah, I don't really have adesire to you know, I might put
it on next week if I'm around,but I'm not going to be like, oh
, I gotta go watch this.
Still, if I'd come back fromyeah, you know I got home last
night I'm like everybody'stalking about how great it was
on us.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Oh, I'd be excited, I gotta go watch this I just
think there's got to be somechanges to the product, like I
think I think is definitelywhich.
I've said this with Liv alsoPGA, we can't copy anything of
Liv, but then that's kind ofbasically what they did.
That's what they did this wholeteam golf thing.
I think there is a way to makethat work.
But kind of like we've said at4U Golf, let's push the

(57:01):
entertainment side, let's pushthe fun side more than you just
necessarily push all of the golfside.
And this was an area where thePGA really could have picked
after the younger crowd evenmore by going for the
entertainment factor more thanthe golf factor.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
That's what I thought their purpose was.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
I was hoping, and it just didn't feel like that so
far, so I will tune in againnext week.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
That's what I was going to ask you.
Are you giving it another shot?

Speaker 1 (57:24):
I will tune in again next week because I want to see
if they actually make anychanges, because there's been a
few of the big podcasts, slashyoutube community, that there's
one group that I'm like allright, if you put any money
towards them, they'll saywhatever you want.
So they were talking about youknow tweeting.
How great it was.
You know they're on x sayingit's this, it's that, and I'm
like listen, guys, I watched thesame thing you did.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
you must have gotten a different experience, because
it wasn't that so well, you madethe comment a minute ago that
you know the um, the, thebroadcast part can get better,
because it's getting better likeover time.
But I don't think PGAbroadcasts are very good.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
So again, I think PGA broadcasts have gotten a lot
better, even even now, umthey're showing shots quicker.
You've got better, on course,personality.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I get that.
I guess I'm more of um more theannouncers type.
They're just still reallymonotone on most.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
There's no excitement , there's no yeah well, and I
mean, that's kind of how thatstyle of golf like true
tournament golf is is gonna be alittle more because it's a very
quiet focus.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
This needs get a wwe commentator.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
So this is again we went to that show last week and
the guy's name is Justin Roberts.
He is the emcee for AEW.
That man has energy for daysand he is just.
He knows how to work a mic andwork a crowd, names and
everything, and it literallyfelt like you were in a high
school gym and your PE coach wascalling out who's coming out.

(58:52):
It had no good factor to it.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I'm going to check it out and see if they make
changes.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
They included some people in it, some YouTube guys.
I think Roger Steele is one ofthem.
They included him in it.
I'm like he doesn't fit.
If you really wanted to pull inthe content creator side of
things and you pull in theYouTube boom of golf, do it, but
have them involved.
Where you're seeing them, it'slike, oh, I want to watch
because this guy I watch onYouTube is there.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Not that he's in the background somewhere.
You said Tiger and Roy kind ofcreated this.
Yeah, are they just older now?
They don't get the youngergeneration.
They don't know how to do itthemselves.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
I think where, basically, it's partnered with
the PGA.
Pga has too much input.
Okay that makes sense PGA is notgood right now.
I mean which sorry?
One real quick thing on golfbefore we switch back over,
because I want to talk about theKentucky-Georgia game that you
went to last night.
The PGA the ownership group ofthe PGA.
Now, because PGA this past yeargot bought out by a different

(59:58):
ownership group of the PGA.
Now, because PGA this past yeargot bought out by a different
ownership.
I feel like I keep hearing theyare, they are now a privately
owned entity instead of, youknow, being public.
Not, I think that.
Not not for profit at one point.
I don't know how that works,but they are seriously looking
at revamping the playoffs forthe PGA tour golf season, which
I'm actually excited about, andeven throwing out what me and
you talked about match play.
Oh, that'd be awesome whenthey're and even if they don't
do like true match play and it'sstill stroke, but basically

(01:00:21):
having it like you are againstthis guy or that a couple of
guys, yes, Basically, you areagainst these other three, yes,
yes, so they're discussing thatand I'm like, all right, if you
do that, I think that will getmore people on board.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
It would help a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
It's figuring out if some lower name guys that aren't
really as known beat some guys,If you get some upsets and they
get to the finals and it's likeall right, I don't want to
watch these guys because I don'tknow.
I'll watch it because I know alot of these guys at this pretty
closely.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Won't that become like college football bracket,
march Madness bracket?
It will, if they'll stick withit.
It'll be the thing, theCinderella story Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Well, these guys are going to make a name for
themselves and so for themthey're thinking man, not only
am I going to potentially win alot of money, win the PGA
playoffs, this is going to openup sponsorship opportunities
like crazy.
So yeah, I mean, I think it'sgood, I think it would make it
way more fun, it would make theplayoffs more interesting
because, you know, Scottietechnically barely won this last

(01:01:15):
one, but he didn't have to tryvery hard, he had a 10-stroke
lead over most of the field tostart.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I won't go back to this a whole lot because we
mentioned it earlier and I knowyou hate it again, but NASCAR
kind of done that bracket style,yeah, and it's definitely made
it entertaining.
Now the drivers themselvesdon't love it because they feel
like the best driver doesn'talways win Every year.
The best basketball teamdoesn't always win.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Well, but I mean, I think it's that way.
Any tournament, the best teamdoesn't always win.
The team that we would lookback and say oh, that's by far
the best team.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
they don't always win , yeah so I think that could
happen in golf as well.
And will the golfers, will thePGA guys be okay with the best
one, necessarily.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Most of the guys so far sound like they're on board
because they want a betterproduct.
They just want to be more funfor the fans, because every one
of them will say it Again.
A lot of the guys are like oh,we're not really in it for the
money.
It's easy to say when there'sthat much money being moved
around, but because there's,money moving around like that
the the purse at the end of thatisn't a huge deal for most of

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the guys.
Like scotty, winning thatadditional 20 million meant
nothing for him well scotty hehad 160 already recently said I
don't do it for the money and alot of them say that and you
know, even a lot of the liveguys before they got those big,
big checks went over there.
Well, it's not really about themoney.
Obviously it was because youtook 188 dollars.
Well, you know, that's differentbut I do think a lot of the

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guys are just like we just wantit to be a better product.
Because even even scotty washe's been against the way they
do the playoff the past coupleyears.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
He's like it doesn't make sense for us to do it this
way, like it's not fun well, ifyou don't revamp some stuff,
you're not going to get theyounger generation and
eventually your viewership isgoing to keep going down and the
current way is really hard tounderstand.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Oh, it is, I don't understand it.
So you have these two priorplayoffs to get you into.
It's a top 125, then a top 75,then a top 35.
But then, when you get to thetop 35, number one has a
10-stroke lead on like half thefield.
It's like, well, okay, well,they can't like it's, what are
they even here for at that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
point the, you know bottom guy has no shot even the
second place guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
He's already a two stroke disadvantage, like it's
like 10 and 8, it's like allright.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Well, again, that makes no sense yeah no, if
you're the best, go win it.
Good luck go.
Let's make a committee likecollege football.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Let's them out Well so the ownership group that has
it now they basically have acommittee that works for them,
that they are looking at alloptions and match play is
actually one.
They specifically said that isan option being looked at.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Here's what I think we should do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
I think we get the college football committee to
rank the golfers and the golfercommittee to rank college
football committee didn't do avery good job in their rankings
well, maybe they'll do betterwith golfers, you don't know I,
I don't know, I think I I dowant to see it change.
I think it'd be way more fun,because golf is very confusing
as it is.
It's hard to follow.
I agree with as far as thepoints, the every like I never

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know when somebody's playing andwhen they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
It's a mess.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
so they need and again, I've said this for a long
time, whether it's ESPN or it'sNBC, I don't care who gets it
put golf on one channel thiswhole you've got to go through
four different channelsdepending on what time it is,
depending on what date.
If you want people to find yourproduct, put it where it's easy
, and it's not easy right now.
So I think that's another thing,but too many people want hands
in the pot money.
It's unfortunate the way thatit is, but it's unfortunate the

(01:04:29):
way that it is.
Yeah, but yeah.
So that was a little morein-depth than I wanted to go.
That's all right.
Going to back to where y'allwent yesterday you guys went to
the Georgia-UK game at Georgia.
You've been to two basketballgames this year.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
We went to Clemson for Kentucky and you've yet to
get to see them at home.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yep Like, is that the goal by the end of the year?
Do you want to see them at?

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
home.
I don't know if we'll get to,because it's a little harder, or
are they?

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
allowing you to come to anymore?
I don't know, because they'venot won, since you guys have won
.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Listen, it is miserable being at the road
team's place Cheering for theaway team.
Yeah.
And then you get to telleverybody hey, we come to COVID.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Oh 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's tough and we went to Clemson
earlier this year.
They lost that game.
I was hesitant to go to anothergame, but they did go on and
lose to Ohio State earlier thisyear.
So I thought, okay, maybe it'snot us Right, go to Georgia.
It was a very similar game toClemson.
A lot of people complainedabout the refs.
I don't like to make excusesfor my teams, but the refs

(01:05:31):
played a big part and not goingto get into all that, whatever
there were some flops Meaningbad foul calls.
Or what did the refs do that youfelt was kind of the issue?
Well, they fell for all of.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Georgia's flops.
That's a whole different partof the game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Georgia could basically run you over and if
Kentucky touched them it was afoul, okay, and Georgia would
not get a foul called.
So it was a lot of that.
Now, kentucky was not physicalat all.
If they played more physical itmight have helped Two minutes
to go in the game.
Georgia had shot 33 free throws.
Kentucky had shot nine.
That's a big difference.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
That's a big difference.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
That's a big difference.
They started calling someticky-tack fouls at the last two
minutes of the game, I think,to make their numbers look
better or whatever.
But regardless, they stillcould have won that game.
But what I did notice sittingthere in person, because you see
all the different things goingon I think they went and
reviewed eight different playsthroughout the game.
That's too much.
That makes the game slow.
That makes the game slow.

(01:06:28):
It drug out forever and youcouldn't get any flow.
And that's where, again, Idon't want to make excuses
because they still could haveplayed better, but it is hard
for any team to get in a rhythm.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Don't want to make excuses while I make several
excuses.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
No but I'm serious because you can still win
through that.
Oh yes, I agree, but it reallydoes mess with the flow when
you're stopping every fewseconds to review something or
call on this foul.
They ended up losing by like 13, 14, somewhere in that range.
Yeah, it was closer, and thenthey kind of kept trying to get
back in the game, obviously thelast two minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Were they behind the entirety?
Again, this wasn't a game thatI ended up watching.
Oh, pretty much.
It was Kentucky-Georgia.
I know we talked about ityesterday before you left.
I didn't expect it to be a game.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I thought Kentucky would just go in there and just
run through and be done.
Kentucky is struggling withphysicality.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Now, with that said, Mark Bolt took over this year
had no players.
That's a brand new team sothey're doing way better than
anybody ever expected.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
I mean they were a top ten ranked team before last
night's loss.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Yeah, they were six last night.
They fought themselves up a ton, they'll probably drop to what
12, 13.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
I mean, they were six last night they fought
themselves up a ton.
They'll probably drop to what12, 13.
I mean they beat Gonzaga.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
They beat Duke, they beat Florida the other day.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Well, here's the question though the SEC has a
lot of top-ranked basketballteams, Is the SEC basketball
going to be just like SEC?

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
football.
I think so Because you sawTennessee go to Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Well, kentucky beat Florida the other day.
Gave Florida their first loss.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
That game was 106-100 , by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Correct.
Well then, florida andTennessee played what last night
?

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
And it was like 70-something to 40-something.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Tennessee was the number one team, number one
undefeated team got beat by 30.
And only scored 40-somethingpoints, and it was just
unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I don't know if it's going to be this way.
Every conference with the SEC.
Clearly and just like me beingat Georgia, I kind of saw this
the away team is going tostruggle there's home team
advantage big time this year,for whatever reason, and I think
that's what you saw in Florida,I think, the fan bases, those
are all rowdy fan bases.
They are, you look at.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Tennessee you look at , kentucky you look at.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Florida Georgia fans were so annoying I almost said
that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
You know Georgia basketball not really a now
again.
They've only lost like two orthree games all year.
Not really played anybody, butthey've only lost a couple of
games.
So maybe they're a little bitmore proud of their team this
year.
But typically that's not crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
They just lost in football, so you've got to
Nothing else to do.
They literally just got put outof the playoff in football.
Okay, now Kentucky's cominginto town, so it was packed.
It was A lot of Kentucky bluethere.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
I've never been to that arena.
Is that a big arena?
Small arena?
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
I think I read it holds like 1,000 more.
In Clemson it's like 10,000.
Okay, so not very big.
No, not very big.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Well, in terms of arena sorry, because some of
those are 50,000.
I mean, they're huge, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Well, like Rupp Arena , tennessee's Arena, they hold
around 20.
So it's half the size of those.
Okay, but what I did notice inperson is how much and it
doesn't matter what team you'refor how much the officials can
affect a game just by all thethings they do and stoppage and
the way they call it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
It's a little harder on TV because they just go to
commercial break, yeah, likeyou're constantly going to
commercial.
So it's a little different inperson when you have nothing to
separate it, it's just you'resitting there watching what's
going on.
It definitely can, and I feel Isometimes I feel that way.
Even with TV timeouts you get,depending on how the flow of the
game goes, the under 12, theunder 8, under 4, however they

(01:09:56):
do it If the game was flowinggood and you got all that time
going off and then there's adead ball and it happens and you
get a couple of fouls or areview, and they go, and then
there's an under 4, it's likewe're dragging this out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Being there in person , those tv timeouts feel much
longer.
Oh, absolutely, for whateverreason, it feels like you're
forever waiting for the game athome.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
When you get those tv timeouts, it's commercial, you
get up you go do something youflip it to another channel, you
do whatever there you're, justyou're sitting there watching I
do think you're gonna see umhome fielded or home court
advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
I guess basketball field or whatever, right I don't
know if, if the referees kindof get in that atmosphere and
it's like you said, it's kind ofrowdy and they're cheering for
the home team, and if you kindof get in this rhythm, if it
plays a part on the officials ornot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
I mean typically like a good official.
I don't think that's the caselike good officials they just go
out there and do their job.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
It shouldn't be.
I don't know if there's anygood officials there last night.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Well, I think there's too many things left up to.
In every sport, but definitelyin basketball, there's so much
interpretation.
It's like, well, this official,they allow a lot of physicality
.
This official, he calls a lotof really small stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
From game to game, keeping up with that like a hate
and you never know until thegame starts.
They have to get more uniform.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Sometimes you don't know until you're halfway
through.
No, I agree with that becausethey'll just randomly start
changing foul calls.
It's like all right, well, whythat?

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
and again seeing that person.
That really bothers me, thatyou don't know what they're
going to call, how they, howthey're going to call it.
Are they going to call it thesame on this end and that end?
Half to half?
Is it going to be the same?

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
So like when I was coaching at the local high
school here, we knew, going intoit, we didn't have the highest
quality of officials.
Like it's small 2A level highschool basketball.
Like you're not gettingNBA-worthy officials.
So, like you know, these are alot of local people and they can
just be consistent.
Oh, you're not going to getthat.

(01:11:56):
I mean they're that's all Iwant.
Half of them need to get newprescriptions.
I mean it's pretty rough butyou get, you know.
Then we took our team one ofthe years over to a UNC
Asheville game and you know,watching the officials and they
were fantastic.
Like they just, they wereconsistent.
They made fairly decent calls.
Like you're always going tomiss calls, you know whether

(01:12:17):
it's positioning, whatever itmay be, but this you know, the
high school level.
Like they miss everything, likethey just, or they'll call
something and then misssomething.
It's just, it's reallyinconsistent.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
But at that level level we should have way more
consistency.
Yeah, you shouldn't get at thatlevel.
Um, I don't know where theofficials get training or
whatever how they get it, butit's got to be more consistent.
They they play too many partsin games, I think more than
people realize, because, yeah,you can say again, you can say
they didn't lose becauseofficials.
But the officials can reallydictate the flow of the game and
if guys are sitting with twofouls, four fouls, whatever's
going on.
So that was what it was.

(01:12:58):
I enjoyed going.
I'll go back some to Georgia ifthey go to Georgia again.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
I was going to say until they ask you not to,
because they haven't won yet.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Well, I don't know.
That's why I thought aboutgoing up to Tennessee, but I'm
like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
That's an expensive ticket, I'm sure oh it is.
It is going to be expensiveKentucky, tennessee, because
that's going to be a good game.
I expect it to be a good game.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
What I did, though I kind of compared the arenas
though.
Okay, so in a unique way,beginning I thought and I'm
talking about clemson's andgeorgia's yeah, both parking was
fairly easy, georgia was alittle bit harder, I thought it
was going to be a lot harder,and we finally got in somewhere
and it was kind of quick.
It was kind of last minutegetting in there, uh.
But what I would say, clemson,done it.

(01:13:41):
Their arena is very good withyou.
Never really stood in linesanywhere, and I'm talking
bathroom concessions.
It didn't matter where I went,never really had a line and it
was pretty full.
So do you, do you?
feel that it's just maybethere's more concession stand
more I don't know what it is,I'm not sure, so how?

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
old.
I don't know how old georgia'scurrent arena is, because I have
no little john at clemson.
It was redone.
Was it five, six, seven?
It's been redone in the last 10years so so it's fairly new.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Little John had a lot more room in the concourse for
concession lines and just allthese different areas.
Yeah, I would say the bathroomseven were probably spread out
more.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
You can't argue that one school has more money than
the other.
We're talking Clemson andGeorgia.
We're talking two huge athleticprograms.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
So at Georgia's I ended up we didn't get any
snacks because there were solong lines.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
you never would have been able to Bathrooms like you
didn't go to the bathroom untilit's hard to go to a game and
not have something.
Yeah, but that's what we didbecause it was just too
difficult.
Yeah Well, you don't want tomiss the game.
Like you came to watch the game, like you don't want to miss it
.
And you know, halftime is crazy, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
And then after the game we went outside and found
UK's bus and a couple of theplayers came out, but they were
on their bus getting out ofthere.
So you know the Clemson game.
We actually got to takepictures with the players.
They all stopped and hung outwith us.
We took a picture with Coach.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Poe.
The bus is parked on the streetthere, though.
They don't have a section there.
I didn't think section there, Ididn't think no, okay, so so a
little different.
So, arena, arena to arena.
I'd rather go to clemson littlejohn, little john's better, I
don't know the name of georgia'sbasketball uh stegman that just
sounded like you made it up.
I mean, it kind of sounds likeyou just I don't know how to

(01:15:24):
pronounce it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Okay, it's like s-t-e-g-e man or something.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Sorry to you, georgia fans, we're just butchering it,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
I think it's.
I like Little John, I thinkLittle.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
John's a good little arena and it's really not that
small, but I think it's a goodplace for a basketball game, so
I do like it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Yeah, no, I would go back there too.
Well, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Heck.
Right after my youngest wasborn, we went to Greenville for
the SEC women's tournament.
Yeah, I like Little John, waybetter than that even.
Oh, I do too, and that's notthat big of a place either, but
Little John just set up reallywell.
I think they did a good jobdesigning that one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Well, and Georgia wasn't horrible and even where
we were sitting we was upperlevel, not way up there, but
there's not that many seats.
It was a good view that manyseats.
It was a good view.
You could see everything fine.
Just, you know, not being ableto get a snack, or taking
forever getting the bathroom,things like that, that was just
a little bit of a nuisance.
And you would think a tuesdaygame at seven.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
You as a food guy I know that's gotta suck because
like you, you like, like that'ssomething you kind of like to.
I do, to do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I mean, I mean, normally I would just get like
some popcorn or something, butno, I know, but still, like you,
you can still kind of rate itoff of like.
I will tell you after the game,because we didn't get food.
We were so hungry.
It's kind of getting late atnight.
We're traveling home.
We found a Whataburger.
We don't have one of thoselocal.
There's a Whataburger there.
Yeah, it was Really.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
It was a little hours , yeah, yeah, so I just realized
we even had one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
That close I have.
I've only ate there once ortwice just traveling.
I don't think I've ever had one.
And so I'm hungry and, and youknow, my wife and daughter,
they're getting burgers and I'mlike, yeah, give me that one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Right there I got a triple cheeseburger hang on,
because on the you got a heartattack is what you're telling me
.
Listen, I'm telling you, Ithought I was gonna like I've, I
saw, I always saw the triplecheeseburger, like at wendy's
that was always the thing thatwas.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
I've got doubles at wendy's.
I've got doubles, but I'venever.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
I've never seen somebody order one well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
So looking at the menu, it looks like real thin
meat.
Okay, and it was.
But, man, when I got it, mywife gets it out of the bag and
she's like, oh my gosh, I can'teven hold this thing.
It was heavy and I'm trying todrive down the interstate.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
What a burger?
Are they like a smash burger orare they more of a traditional?

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
I compared it to Sonic.
God, we've talked about food alot today.
Uh no, my wife said she thoughtit was better than Sonic and we
like Sonic burgers.
So, uh, I thought maybe Sonicwas a little better, but I did
have a triple cheeseburger, so Ican't tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
the last one went to Sonic and didn't get breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
I can tell you that I've ever ate breakfast at Sonic
.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
French toast sticks from there, fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Oh, I've had French toast sticks from there, but not
for breakfast.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
A burrito.
I get, I don't't, but I don'tgo to something for breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
It's just when I go, I end up ordering breakfast.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Yeah, because they have it all day and I love
breakfast food probably morethan anything else, so like I
just kind of naturally go to itI used to do the the coney
footlongs chili cheese dog.
Those are good yeah what's,what's the deal calling with
coney like?

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
I don't know right, I don't know what's the
difference.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
hey, brian, this, this for you, man, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
What was it?

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
last week I even said it.
I was like Brian's going totell you the yeast.
Yeah, he shot us a text.
It was like here's thedefinition.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
We have talked about a lot of food, but if we had
more time talking aboutbreakfast food, we would have
went to Waffle House.
We had to get on back road.
The awful waffle, that's thebest place for breakfast.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
So a good Waffle House is good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
All right, guys, we got to go.
We're going to Waffle House.
It's still open.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
It's always open.
A bad Waffle House is bad,though.
Yeah, like a good one's good, abad one's really bad.
I don't feel like there's muchin between.
No.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
I mean, I don't know, is it bad, can it be bad?

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Have you seen some of the videos that come from?

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
some of these Waffle Houses.
I'm getting eggs and bacon anda waffle.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
I mean, come on Like people throwing chairs at people
, like again, not all WaffleHouses, but a bunch of them Like
you just, which is funnybecause my wife knows a guy that
actually works for Waffle House.
And when I say works for WaffleHouse, I mean like way, way up
in Waffle House, like mean, likeway, way up in Waffle House

(01:19:30):
Flies a helicopter for the ownerof Waffle House.
You're like cool.
So I'm like that's so random, Ididn't know Waffle House had a
helicopter.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
That's very weird.
I mean there's a lot of WaffleHouse, maybe plane.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
No, it's helicopter.
Yeah, and it's just very odd tome that I don't you don't think
of a company like that at thehigh end.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Because we don't see that, we just see the local.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
But then you're like, yeah, they're flying around in
a helicopter and I'm like OscarMayer has a vehicle.
Is that Waffle House's?

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
vehicle.
I'm confused.
What if they got a helicopterthat looks like a?

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
waffle.
How would you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
I don't know.
You're talking about the OscarMayer Wienermobile, which that
comes through?
Here all the time, all the timeI saw an ad or something.
They were hiring drivers.
You might do pretty good there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
I would not want to drive that thing.
That thing's huge.
Have you ever seen it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
in person?
I don't think so.
It's like a bus, if not bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
It's huge.
So what's in there?
I don't know.
I've never been in it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
I've just seen it from the outside, that and the
Goodyear blimp are like twoiconic.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Oh, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Goodyear blimp is like a very iconic thing they
were doing something during thefootball games.
100th anniversary of Goodyearblimp or something has it been
that long.
Was it?
I don't know, maybe it was 50.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Now blimps have been around for a long time, which,
again a blimp to me just seemslike a terrible idea.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
It does I, which again, a blimp to me just seems
like a terrible idea.
It does I.
Watched a video one time of aguy going on a cruise with him
and and in a blimp and they weregoing.
It was like eight hours orsomething.
He's like he's like we don'thave a bathroom in here.
No, First of all, I ain't goingto get a bathroom.
But the thing is like the areathat it's like you don't have
anything.
This group I watched.

(01:21:10):
They had like three differentoperators and they would switch
out every couple hours andsomebody else would drive.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Well, because you're basically watching paint drive,
drive, fly.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
It's so slow.
What do you call it?

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
That's got to be flight, right?
I mean, I can't imagine thatbeing anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Oh yeah, 100 years, I was right.
Wow, Goodyear blimp does otherthan fly over football games and
things like that, everysporting event.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Yeah, and I don't know, does Goodyear do events?
They're such a big company.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
I always wonder about advertising like that though
Does anybody buy Goodyearproducts because of that blimp,
Because they spend a lot ofmoney on that blimp or several
blimps, I'm assuming, I don'tknow.
I don't buy Goodyear because Isee the blimp on football games,
but maybe somebody does.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
But these companies spend money in marketing knowing
they're going to get way moreback, so maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
I mean, I know their name, maybe because of it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Here's my thing.
I'll be honest with you.
Usually Goodyear tires are tooexpensive.
I'm usually buying something alittle cheaper, that is true.
I would love I mean listensports podcast.
I'll buy Goodyear they are muchmore expensive than the other
so and that's the thing, like itdepends on what car input, but
maybe it's the value likedepends on the quality of the

(01:22:20):
car, like I'm not gonna put iton some cheap little crappy car
you got the saying you get whatyou pay for.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
So maybe if you want quality tires, who?

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
was it recently?
Was telling us that their tirewas like basically an oval.
Was that will?
Was it well?

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
I think it was it may have been.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
We were talking about that and, man, I bought these
tires and I got to get a new one, because it's basically
misformed already.
Yeah, that's right, becausethey were like rounded or
something it was pretty late wewere talking about that and that
was hilarious.
He was like my tire basicallyturned to an egg and I was like,
of all things, that that couldbe.
Apparently, there weren't goodyears.

(01:22:55):
That's all I got to say.
So yeah, if you want to betalked about On the podcast,
tell us crazy stories, because Ifeel like Will's been talked
about A couple weeks in a rownow Because he's got some crazy
stories.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
He just keeps telling us stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
Don't tell us anything you don't want, told he
did.
Fill us in about the baseballmanagers.
Oh, that's right, we said hewould, and he, I told you know
it and he definitely knows it.
He's one.
We'll definitely have him onthe podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
I'm still waiting for you to tell our audience what
it is, why.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
The way he described it is that baseball was very
informal and it was basicallylike a player coach.
He said you took the oldest kid, the oldest person, the oldest,
whatever, and obviously theywere still playing because you
didn't have all those things.
But it advanced so quickly thatthey had to have somebody kind

(01:23:43):
of be in charge.
The oldest kid would kind of doa lineup, would do all the
information.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
So he would do that and play and play.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
So you know again in baseball.
Now I feel like you see a lotmore of the pants, but they're
not really wearing the top thesame way they're wearing quarter
zips.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Oh, I'm sure the top's under the quarter zip.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Maybe I don't know, Some of these guys are a lot
younger.
These are just out of baseballfor a few years and now they're
taking over some teams.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
So it's weird seeing all these former players as
managers now, which is kind ofcool, yeah, but most basketball
coaches don't do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Well, a lot of them have got away from it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Very few anymore do it.
I'm just kidding.
They don't need to wear suitsbecause that would look odd.
I don't want to see a suit inthe dugout.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
No, a suit in the dugout would feel weird, that
would feel weird Like who areyou on security detail for.
Because like that's what thatwould feel like.
I mean, a lot of coaches stilldo some suit stuff, but to me
the weirdest was seeing footballcoaches way back in the day and

(01:24:45):
they'd be in a full suit.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Oh, that's true.
You see the old clips, the old?

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
old clips and they were just dressed fully in a
suit.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
That's how I feel baseball would feel too.
It's just very out of place.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Yeah because you definitely don't get that now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Because now football is way more relaxed, way more.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Most of them are hoodies especially this time of
year jackets or whatever it maybe.
But yeah, you're not gettingthe suits anymore, just the
ownership.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Yeah, yeah, we need to bring some of that to golf
for sure.
Some different outfits,different.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
You know it's called shorts, pga, that's true,
they've been around forever.
Like you don't mind being onshorts, I'm not playing golf, I
can't put on shorts, so it just.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
it blows my mind still that we're, we're not
allowed to wear shorts on thepga tour, but the caddy can now
is that they have they've beenfor a few years.
Does he get less tv time thecaddy?

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
so it's okay if he has it very few caddies get much
tv time anyways yeah, so isthat why?

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
even your big name ones I don't know like the
viewers that come there.
You see all the caddies runaround I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
I think they it's.
It's.
We're still very, verytraditional in golf like we've
got a some of the stuff is okayto change.
It's okay, it really is.
It's okay to change some thingssome people don't like uh
change you.
You don't like change.
If it's the right, I'm all forthe right changes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Very few things, but I just realized I had one thing
I had to ask you about, uh-oh,because I was just looking at my
notes.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Anything, that's a have-to.
Who knows where this could go.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Did you get to sit down and watch the Georgia game,
the whole game?
I know you was kind of.
Which Georgia, Notre Dame yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, I watched it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
What about the kid that got the 15-yard penalty on
the sideline?
Do you feel bad for that kid?
No, you made a stupid mistake.
You should be there.
No, I don't feel bad for him.
And for those who don't know,the kid got too close to the
sideline.
The referee ran into him.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Have you watched it again?

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
I haven't watched it on the white.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
The kid was too close , he was close.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Was he closer than anybody else?

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
He was the closest.
He was yeah he was the closestand unfortunately again, that
happens all the time.
Let's not hate on this kid,that happens a lot more.
It's just typically the refdoesn't run into him.
People are out that far, if notfarther, sometimes, and as long
as the ref doesn't run into you, they don't typically know or

(01:27:03):
if you hinder their movement,but it just so happened he ran
right into him.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Georgia had a big play on that Correct Specific
moment that got brought back 15yards.
So I think the hardest part is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
it's a kid that's not even dressed, I know, and they
kept putting the camera yardsand so um.
So I think the hardest part isit's a kid that's not even
dressed, I know, and like he'sjust jersey putting the camera
on him.
They did, they did.
I.
I did see more of the memepages talking about you know,
there's no transfer portal forthis kid because nobody's gonna
take him the only footage he hasis that is he still there next
year?

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
I mean, or does kirby smart say no the thing is like
you get a lot, like there's somany of those guys that don't
dress that I don't even know howmuch they really are involved.
Yeah, like I don't, I don'tknow, I haven't, I haven't went
like researched it, like thekid's not that important to
where it was such a they weren'tgonna win the game.
I felt sorry for the kid alittle bit because the and
honestly the biggest thing thatcame out of that game was, you

(01:27:52):
know, running the 11 people offon the whole punt thing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
That's been the biggest thing that came out of
it.
Is that legal or not?

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
So Kirby Smart claims the SEC tells him he can't do
that.
I didn't go look it up withinthe rules.
To me it feels odd that that'slegal.
It is, but if you never.
To run 11 off feels weirdbecause there's so many rules
with, you know, too many peoplein the huddle or illegal
substitutions, so that to mefeels like it should fall

(01:28:24):
somewhere under there.
I've not read the rules toreally know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
I feel like there's a point that somebody said,
because they never actuallylined up over the ball, that
they're able to substitute.
But I feel like there's a pointthat once you're kind of
starting to get in formation,alright, you can't sub now
Almost like once you'recommitted.
It's kind of Now what I feellike Georgia should have done.
They should have drugged theirfeet subbing Because now they

(01:28:47):
are allowed to sub, and theyshould have made them take a
delay of game.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Well, so here's the thing.
There's rules on that too.
Some of the refs allowbasically as much time as those
guys want, like they let themjog, like, walk off and bring
new people in.
From one of the I can'tremember which game it was that
happened and they called 12 inon the field.
They're basically allowed likethree seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
I think I get more than that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
It's not like a lot of these refs really drag it out
Like one of the rules officials.
It's like three to five secondsYou're supposed to sprint off.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
You have to give more than that, because when they
bring somebody in the offense,brings somebody in as the
defensive side, you have to seeokay, who was that, what
formation?
Okay, what do I need to bringin?
Now I've got to get my guys in,so it takes time.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
So it's not three seconds from when the guy left,
because it's basically threeseconds from when the ref
recognizes there's a sub, heruns up to stop it.
Then they would start it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Yeah, but you've got to give time for your guy to run
off, but also the defensiveside to figure out, okay, who's
going in, and especially ifyou're asking them to bring 11
in, it's not the player's job.
No, I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Coaches are watching who's coming in and out.
You know what needs to be inthere, so you send them, but not
11.
That's where 11 feels weird.
That's when it feels like ithas to be against something.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
That's a hard way to do it.
I don't know if it's illegal,but it should be.
I don't like it.
Yeah, I don't know that thattook Georgia's last chance of
trying to come back.
I don't know if they were goingto win anyways it gives vibes
of the Oregon-Ohio State gameearly in the year.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
12 men.
It kind of gives that yes,right, Like we don't exactly
know what to do with it, but itfeels odd, it's odd yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
I'm not sure.
No, defensive coach has apackage that I'm going to bring
in 11 new guys at once.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
No, because typically on defense.
They throw a package.
You may pull three guys at max.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Most of the guys are on the field.
So what they did, though theyhad what punt team out, ran punt
team off and offense back on.
Yes, so I guess you quicklycould just run your defense out
and run, you know, but at thatpoint isn't your defense sitting
over on the bench with theirhelmet's off.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
I would say you may have guys that are over.
You never know.
Because that's the thing ifthere's a penalty, there's kind
of that delay, there's time forthose guys like, hey, we're back
out there.
It's a little different.
So I don't like it.
I don't think Georgia was goingto win.
I don't think it changed that?

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
No, I don't think it made a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
But I do think it questionable.
Definitely, I agree, I don'tlike it and I don't know if
there's anything like what kirbysaid.
You know, sec, tell him hecan't do that they had.
You know, they've tried it, youknow.
Whatever, I don't know aboutall that, but I am curious to
see where that goes, because Itried to look it up always
always in the summer you getthose.
Well, here's gonna be the rulechanges for next year.
I have a feeling we're gonna seea few because we've had some
weird stuff happen this yearthat I think we see a few and
please, whatever committee, doesthis?
Fix the targeting stuff, likethe calls for targeting, are so

(01:31:46):
bad.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
So I thought in the Texas game they could have
called some offensive targetingand they didn't.
They never do, that's nevercalled Actually.
So there was one on Texas, evenon defense, at the end I think
that they didn't.
They never do, that's nevercalled um actually.
So there was one on uh on texas, even on defense, at the end I
think that they didn't call.
That was clearly, I thought,targeting by, by the rule book
but that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Like offensively, like you can lower your head,
you can do whatever you want.
There's no such thing asoffensive targeting, which I
think is so stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
When I did play football, I was a defensive
player, mostly right.
And when an offensive playercomes to you and gets low, you
are taught to try to get lowerthan them.
That's your leverage, right?
Well, when they're that low andyou go low, you're going to hit
helmets, correct, but it's themthat's causing it, correct.
So what are you supposed to do?

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
So my thing is a lot of these guys now tackle with
their head down.
So that's part of the issue.
That, like tackling will sayincorrectly what most people
were taught growing up.
But yeah, if you have committedto go into a tackle and that
guy then lowers his head intoyou, why are you getting called
for it?
So that, like again, I'm notsaying I want more reviews, more

(01:32:50):
of any of that stuff, butthey're not reviewing it there.
Anyways, it's sent off to bereviewed elsewhere.
So let those guys revieweverything they want.
Let them do it Like if at thatpoint you deemed that the
offensive player caused it, nopenalty, just play on Whatever.
I'm fine with that.
But I hate, like for ArizonaState.

(01:33:11):
Their best defensive playerdidn't play the first half
Because he got one in theconference championship game.
He's sitting for two and a halfweeks.
At this point he made a hugeplay that caused the safety,
yeah, there, and that was likehis first play of the half or
first play the game, because hedidn't get played the second
half.
So I don't like the the ejectedfor the rest of this game plus

(01:33:37):
the next game of the second half.
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
I get it.
You can't be two minutes leftin the fourth quarter and guys
just start taking everybody out.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
No, but at that point you can tell.
You can tell the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Yeah, I think so too, when it's Is this a basketball
turns one flagrant, two typestuff.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
I would almost rather have that Kind of like the way
face mask used to be you had theunintentional and the you know
the intentional five or 15, likewith the targeting.
Even if you want to saytargeting, you're immediately
ejected.
There's, you know, last play ofthe game.
You're ejected Still sucks, youknow, maybe if you have so many
, then you get something.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
I can see that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
But for you to say, well, this is the last play of
the game.
You get a targeting, you're outthe first half of the next game
.
That's a huge, huge thing.
For again, if the offensiveplayer caused it and the defense
guys get called for it, I justthink it's too big of a mess.
So I would love to see someclarification.
There and again, the refs eachcall it different.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
See, you just told us something you hate.
You do not like targeting, see,I told you.
So I do want to ask you on the11 coming in and out.
Yeah, I know, we don't knowthis.
Real I don't like it Are youokay with it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
I feel like either there needs to be a way that
it's allowed or a way thatthere's not, it just feels like
it's in between yeah, yeah, itjust feels too gray like in
between the rules.
Again, I think there'll besomething coming out to clarify.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
I think over the summer.
But do you like it?
Are you okay with it?
Because there's not a rule thatwe know of.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
So that's the thing.
If it's within the rules rightnow, I don't mind it.
Okay, I mean like it's weird tome, but if it's within the
rules.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
it's within the rules .
Yeah, I got you Like every team.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
I mean that's part of coaching in sports.
It is You're always trying tofind, you're not trying to cheat
.
You're not trying to do that,but himself said we have sets
for it, we can do that, but theSEC told us we couldn't.

(01:35:43):
So that's where it's like ohokay.
He was saying I could do thattoo, like I'm ready to do it,
we've practiced it.
But the SEC said hey, you'renot allowed to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
I wonder if that comes into we're in a conference
?
They're not.
We have conference rules.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
See, that's the thing is like the conference is not
going to do more strict rulesthan the refs, so it's like,
yeah, so that's kind of weird tome.
Yep, yeah, but those games willhappen this week, so we'll
definitely touch base on thechampionship next week.
Obviously, I'm going to pick upon tgl again next week.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
That's uh yeah, I'm looking to see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
Second update on that , just yeah I'll give it, but
it's gotta, it's gotta make somechanges.
If they'll listen to somepeople and and try some changes,
I can get behind it, but wegotta see some changes.
Yeah, um, but no, I mean, I Ithink that that's kind of it for
me.
For the for the evening, yeah,I'm good, unless we want to talk
about some more food, but I'mjust really hungry.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
I want to go eat.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
I am starting to get really hungry, so I'm going to
go home and eat dinner at thispoint, um, but again yeah, I
know it's it's too late fordinner, but you know what I mean
.
Yeah, I feel like I don't.
More web season.
I think that's right folks.
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