From Star Wars to Tush Push: Three Guys Talk Sports, Movies, and Growing Up

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
welcome back to the anonymous podcast.
I'm tyler here with david.
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(00:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, we're back here on site again tonight.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah recording on site and we have our first
special guest.
Well, special is a strong term.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Depends on how you're using special.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
He's a guest.
I don't know if it's very happyto have him.
He kind of invited himself, butyou've heard us talk about him
several times kind of ourbaseball guy.
This is baseball guy Will, soWill's here today.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Say hi Will, hey everybody, and I am special At
what and I did invite myselfHang on at what we know.
You're special what?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
are you special about .

Speaker 1 (01:16):
We're trying to find something you're good at, and
we're still waiting.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
The views will be through the roof after this one,
and it's just because of me,because you downloaded on every
everything you own myplaystation downloaded.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
My phone downloaded it.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
The school emails downloaded it 17 times like yeah
this one's going through theroof, yeah I don't care how it
makes it go, makes it go, we'llroll with it.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
But no, we're actually really glad to have
will.
We've talked for what?
Three, four weeks now Likeorder the crap, get it in and
then we'll start having guests.
And was talking with will whatlast night last night and oh hey
, your stuff came in.
I'll be there tomorrow.
Yeah, okay, Show up.
What time show up.

(01:58):
Uh, and it was superdisorganized tonight, like this
is the probably the mostdisorganized tonight.
This is probably the mostdisorganized we've been, and
it's of course when you show up.
Because typically this is allDavid usually does the final
couple of mics and stuff, butwe're ready to go.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I try to show up when it's done.
I want to sit down and justtalk.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
You just want to show up, be the diva, not have to do
anything, and then just roll.
That's what the big stars do,right, I mean that's what they
do.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I'm waiting to see the big stars.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
I'm just saying I see our downloads.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
They're not there yet .

Speaker 1 (02:28):
So whatever you think on that, we'll see that's it,
I'm out.
Bye, bye, felicia, I say it'snot a hard thing to do.
Mute you, like I said, I'llmute Will if he goes too hard on
Duke, on Duke.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Wow, that's possible.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh, that's right.
Duke's up on Duke.
Will is a Duke fan.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Just so everybody knows.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I think you'd prefer if Duke was a Will fan, that
would be really cool.
That would be awesome.
Invited to Cameron for everygame.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Lindseyville out front Lindsey.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
That'd be great, I'm all for it.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Duke's probably God.
Why do you think, duke, what iswrong?
Will is probably the only onehere that's still watching the
final four because everybodyelse's teams are out.
I mean, I'm watching, but I'mcheering against them actively
is that why we're watching?
Do you think there's a lot ofpeople watching to cheer against
duke because their team's out?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
it's the chiefs eagles all over again.
No, you don't think so we'rewatching to see them lose.
That's why I'm watching no Idon't.
I don't think there's anythingsuper polarizing about this Duke
team in negative, I was goingto say, I think this Duke team
is almost likable.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
I mean you look at their makeup, but they're not
the typical like Duke Coach Kteams.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I feel as if no Tar Heel fan my age can like them
because of John Shire, Becausethat was like.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I get what you're saying, john Shire, wasn't that
polarizing?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, but the teams he was on was he had some teams.
He himself was not that crazy.
He wasn't something that wasout there in your face.
He's pretty quiet, white Mike,but some of Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
We're just comparing, john.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Shire to.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
We're going to get into Hurley, we're going to get
into Leitner, we're going to getinto all this.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I do got to say.
There is one thing about thisDuke team I haven't seen anybody
trip anybody yet, so that'sbeen really good.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
We discussed that yesterday Because I actually
questioned not this year but howis Grayson Allen still in the
NBA?
Not this year.
He's played phenomenal thisyear.
He's leading the league, he'sshooting so well, but the past
four years I'm like what is hedoing?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
He defends at a high level.
He does, he really does defendat a high level.
I don't know what size shoe hewears, but with that shoe as he
trips you as you go by, I meanthat's part of it.
Maybe I shouldn't have come ontonight.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
This is just like a bash wheel night.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
No, no, no your first episode.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
that's the way it's going to be, and then, as you're
on more, it's like all rightnow we can just talk.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
No, I'm agreeing with you, though this Duke team
isn't like those teams.
Some of those teams were justannoying to watch.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I'll say that it's not like a JJ Duke team that you
actively hated them.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
And I think Shire's a good coach, Listen.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Hubert Davis is the man.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
He is.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
If he can get good players.
Every Duke player loves itbecause we're going to be awful
for the next 15 years.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I hope they keep giving him extension after
extension, right?

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Me too, I think he should be there forever.
I hope you choke on your waterover there is what I hope.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I'll get you another one, so you can.
You see how quick this canchange to somebody else.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh, very quickly.
Yeah, you're never safe on thisthing.
No, no, We'll get Paul here andit'll be all about Alabama, and
then it'll be.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
How they don't settle for threes.
They don't at all.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
And they hit what three the other night?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
It was pretty rough 25 of 51 in that game.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Maybe NBA teams shouldn't like that.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
What was that but?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
you can't.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Sweet 16 was Sweet 16 .

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, but that is not something you can do, even
twice a year, like that's not awe're going to do that all the
time.
It's not the Splash Brothers,it's not.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Here's the stat I wrote down.
That was crazy to me, though.
Of their first 31 shots, 26 ofthem were three-point attempts,
so, whether you're making themor not, like they just kept
putting them up.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well, I mean with talking with Paul about that.
He did make a point in the factof how BYU was covering.
It is why they were shooting it, and I do get that, but I feel
like they shoot it even ifthey're not hitting it.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
I mean, they made it that far, so it worked for them.
Yes, Well, they defend prettywell, except against Duke just
because they don't match up wellwith that team.
That's a bad matchup, though,for Alabama.
I even thought the score was 20.
I really thought it was a lotcloser than that.
I mean, it was a six point gamewith eight minutes left.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
It was I just like what I told you before.
I don't know of any team thattruly matches up well in the
paint with both of those guys,because Flag is not the
traditional, you know the oldschool Carolina Twin Tower, like
San Antonio used to do.
Flag is a guy that can extend,can go off the dribble, can do a

(06:53):
little bit of everything.
So that's a tough matchup.
And then you've got what's theother kid's name?
Mala Watch.
Mala Watch, yeah, he's notgoing to do much else other than
get rebounds and dunk and blockshots, but he's very good at it
crazy thing about those twoguys is they're both supposed to
be in high school.
They're both supposed to beseniors so I remember Flagg
reclassified and they're likewell he struggled part of the

(07:15):
year.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, because he shouldn't be here yet they're
both reclassified to come toDuke early okay, see, I wasn't
sure the other guy was, but Iknew Flag was and.
Malawach was on the Sudannational team.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I do remember that actually.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
He got serious minutes against USA.
Usa yep.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yep.
I mean most of that story,though, was Flag against the US
team in their practices and heabsolutely showed out.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, he dominated.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, that's what everybody kind of remembers.
Also hard because they're notplaying their full potential
either.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
They're not going full speed, but just to be able
to.
I agree, if you can dominate anNBA player at any extent, those
guys are there for a reason.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
As much as I don't want to bring it up, I said they
wasn't going to get out of thesecond round.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
You did make that comment.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
And to be honest, that was a bold statement.
No, but it was based on Duketeams of the past.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Well, it's because they make it so much they can't
be perfect all the time.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I mean Duke is either one of those like, when they
get there, they're either out inthe first round or they win the
championship.
It's like there's no middleground for them, and so that's
what.
But like, what for me, like gotme hooked.
That makes sense.
I was young enough, Like I was12.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Like 2010, I was all in and then 2015,.
You kind of started having thesame feelings you did in 2010.
Like this team is just awesome.
We love them.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's a little bit different, though, because they
had really embraced the one anddones at that point.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
No, what I'm saying is your love for them.
It just felt like yeah, Iunderstand that which.
There's no love for two.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Let's just go ahead and get that out there.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
As a Tar Heel fan, david as a Kentucky fan, there
is zero love for that team 2015for me is the 38-0 team and then
lost to Wisconsin in the final10, which is with 10 NBA players
on the line, you lost

Speaker 2 (09:04):
to Frank Kaminsky, that's who you lost to Sam
Decker Sam.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Decker, yeah, sam Decker, his most famous
highlight is tripping over theball in the NBA.
That's about all he's known for, but I think that this team, as
Duke fans, we're going to bereally sad when this team is
done playing.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
It is a really good, I know you're a fan, but outside
of that you got them to win itall, I'm assuming no, like I
have stayed steady with, like Ijust don't.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I'm so superstitious, I'm like I pick the past, the
past two rounds the past tworounds he's texted me like I've
got the other team like he'sliterally, and I think at this
point it's if I say that they'llwin.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, it's literally the superstition.
At this point, duke is playingas good as anybody right now.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
yes, they have the makeup to do it, they have the
depth to do it.
They have the experience to doit as well with the transfers
that came in with a lot ofcollege experience.
But, with that being said, Igot you.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Tournament's the tournament, for a reason.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
It can be wild.
That's the whole point.
I want to see them in Auburnagain.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
I do too, yeah, I think that'd be awesome, See I
don't?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think the best overall game right now is
Duke-Florida.
As far as, just like, I want tosee a really good basketball
game.
I think Florida's playing.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
The Florida guards are exciting.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Florida's playing good.
Yes, so I don't think Floridahas the depth.
The same way, duke does thinktheir five can match up with the
five pretty well.
That that's why I think thatcould be a really good game.
Auburn, it's almost to me it'slike all right, we've seen it.
I want to, I want to see, canthat next one, next one, do it?

(10:34):
And for florida, I mean, heck,it's been a long time since
they've been there.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah 2007 2008, the back-to-back years.
Al horford, no, yeah, was thatwhat that was?
Horford brewer joe kim noah.
Wow was that team and they didit back-to-back years.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, I mean, it was like five NBA guys.
Like legit NBA guys Not justguys that made it there and
didn't do anything.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Since you brought that up, I saw something very
interesting the other day Since1998, every NCAA championship
has come from the eastern halfof the country.
That is crazy to me when youstop and think about it.
And only a couple even gotclose out there, which would be
Kansas and Baylor.
Everybody that wins, it isalways on the east coast.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
See, I don't know that that feels that crazy,
because you've got to thinkabout how heavily populated, big
, university-wise, the east, thesouth, like this whole section,
is compared to once you getpast 98, that's a long time.
But you got to look at too,like who's been relevant outside
of Kansas, who's been relevantfor all this?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, we talked about UCLA.
Who?
All their championships theygot were from like the 70s or
whatever it is 50s and 60s and70s, but outside of that other
than.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Gonzaga being typically a good team, every
year, there's nobody out therethat you're just following, year
after year after year.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
I think it's almost in every sport, because you'll
get outdoor sports thechampionship winner is probably
going to be from the Southusually from the SEC.
I think it's because inbaseball and football, because
you can be outside your round Inbaseball, there is no winner.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
You can be a player for 365 days out of the year,
see, but that's what I don't get, though.
Why are more California teamsnot good, like that's what
everybody's like, that's theideal weather everywhere, right?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
So what are we missing out there?
Why are they not?
There's not that many biguniversities out there.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
But you've got some of the biggest, I mean as far as
.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
USC.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
And there's money and there's money.
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
You would think they could recruit.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
UCLA has money.
Those are two massive massiveschools.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm going to tell you , come out to California, I
should be able to get somerecruits and, like you said, and
then the money on top of it Now.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I mean I will say, unless you are big time at the
school or in movies or something, la is not a super just great
place to be.
It's super expensive, not asuper just great place to be.
Like there's really.
It's a super expensive, not aplace that you're just going to
go have fun and live your lifewithout having a lot of money.
So yeah, if you're one of thoseguys getting big and IL money,

(12:51):
yeah, go go to LA, you'll befine.
But outside of that I don'tknow that there's.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
there's enough draw there Like to me, I don thing
that's the easiest place torecruit, to recruit to ever, and
they have a name miami yeah,yeah, oh exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
They have pedigree and it's, it is miami of all
places.
So we've got the beach, we'vegot the nightlife, we've got
anything you could want anythingyou could want, so why wouldn't
you?

Speaker 4 (13:16):
so to me I'm like they're missing, you know, oh my
gosh basketball this year wasso bad.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, I mean, the coach did get up and leave.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
He left very early in the season, which I get it.
I mean he saw the writing onthe wall.
Did you see who they hired?
I haven't seen who they got, no.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Jai Lucas Okay, duke's associate head coach.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, that's true.
He was at Kentucky a coupleyears ago.
Yeah, he's the man.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
His assistant coach.
Yeah, so how do you feel aboutthat?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
no it I mean cal needed to go.
He was with cal, I said he'skind of on the the cal side of
things, so it's like I loved caland he was good, but it was
time for him to go and everybodyassociated with cal it was like
they needed to go.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
It just wasn't good question how do you feel in the
fact that in his first year calmatched what kentucky did, sweet
16?
Well, I've said so.
I know we've kind of talkedabout a little bit mark left
mark putt left byu came tokentucky, cali, kentucky we're
talking.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
So all three of those schools are better this year it
was time for all three of them.
They it helped everybody.
It's one of those where youknow you get a divorce and both
parties are better off andthat's kind of what it felt like
.
Well, I'm happy for cal, but Ididn't want to see him keep
going Well, I understand that.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, you're like all right, you've made it far
enough, let's stop there.
You've done well.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I said last week, it's one of those things where
all Kentucky fans knew it wastime for Cal to leave.
But if Cal goes to win thechampionship, the national media
and everybody is never going toshut up about it Like, oh, you
can't believe you.
Let Cal go, you at Kentuckyanymore.
It ran its course.
He'll be in the rafters later.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
He's good, whatever, it's just time has passed
Exactly, it's too fresh still.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
It's 15 years.
That's too long at Kentucky forany coach.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Well, I will say, speaking of divorces and the
fact of coaches leaving, haveeither of you watched what's
happened with Maryland?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, that's crazy.
It's been such a mess.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
He just went to Villanova after.
He was like I don't know whatto do.
But did you see who they justhired?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
No, buzz Williams yes , I was going to say I saw him.
They ended up with a good coach, though he's solid.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
He's not one that you just name automatically.
He's not a top-tier name thatyou're like oh I'm just going to
go to him, Unless you've Someof the Xavier stuff.
He's a good coach, he knowswhat he's doing.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I'll tell you who did it right.
Jay Wright oh, absolutely, thatdude should be coaching.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I just don't think he wants to.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, I think he did it right.
He won the championship.
He said, all right, I'm out,I'm done, and he's a great
analyst.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
But that team he won the championship with was so
good.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
It was hate that he won it, because you know that it
was a perfect drawn-up play.
Like they did it just justright.
But as again, as a tar hill fan, that's hard even for marcus
page to hit the shot before wasinsane.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Oh 100.
He shouldn't have hit that shotlike that's a, that's a once in
a lifetime like time type shot.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Jay wright's not that old either, is he no?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
no, that's what you normally don't see.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
He made his money because somebody like like
hurley up at yukon, he, he justwent back to back.
He could be like all right,guys, I'm out, go do analyst or
whatever, but he's too caught toit, he never will.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Hurleys will never Like his dad.
Their dad was still coachingfor so long in high school.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Right, I mean they were into like 80s and 90s.
That's all they know at thatpoint that.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
His antics were just so over the top.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
It was no longer this like I'm kind of getting what I
deserve thing.
It was almost like do you knowwho?

Speaker 3 (16:28):
I am.
It was like unwatchable attimes.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
It really was, it was really hard to watch, Like when
he's asking refs like don't youknow who I am?

Speaker 4 (16:34):
It's like okay now, I really don't like you.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
And if you play into the villain role, like sure,
that's fine, but he didn'treally fully play into that
either.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
He had America by the heart.
Oh, 100%.
People loved him 100%.
I mean, LA was going to givehim so much money the world,
yeah, yeah, they were giving himanything Kentucky offered him.
Blink Check pretty much.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Kentucky offered him as much, basically anything he
wanted.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
I thought, though I was like, okay, I'm glad he
didn't come to Kentucky, becausethat would have been horrible.
But, base, don't you just loveit, like if he's your coach.
You're like, oh yeah, that'sawesome.
You know, I bet, because uconnfans just love them.
Yeah, but uconn's uconn's alittle different, that's uh.
But I don't think it matterswhere he's at.
If he's at north carolina,you're probably like, hey, I
don't mind him, like he's yourcoach, you know it's well, I

(17:15):
mean so me personally, like Idon't really care for that type
of antics regardless, likethat's just not my style, but
not knowing that going into thisyear, if you didn't know.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh no, I mean, yeah, if they're like hey, we've got
Hurley coming, yeah, yeah, we'restoked, yeah, we're absolutely
stoked.
But honestly, I'll take Will asour head coach at this point.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Like.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I'm so anti-Hubert Davis.
Is he saying you're not a goodcoach?
Or what?

Speaker 1 (17:38):
No, we've had our discussion on coaches.
If I was coaching somewhere,I'd drag Will by the feet and
make him come coach with me, butI'm so anti-Hubert Davis.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
There's only one place.
I don't think he knows whathe's doing.
If they fire Hubert Davis, Ionly want to see him go to Duke.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
That's the only it needs to be at one of those
schools.
The only issue I have withCarolina not issue, it's just
interesting is they want toin-house, so like they're.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
So, carolina guy only , but there's nobody after him.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I mean they should have hired west miller.
Yes, agreed.
I mean, if you're going to hiresomeone in-house, west miller's
like the only one and he reallywasn't that great, but he had
proven himself more, at leastyeah, he, he had early on a
conference championship he hadmade it to.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
But there's a tournament, you know I outside
of him.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
No, there's no one and there's no one like coming
down the pipeline that, likeformer players, like Hansberg,
didn't get into it no, no, so no, no, true Tar Heel guys
coaching Stackhouse.
Stackhouse was the only, but hedid a AAU ball right why?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
do.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
They want to stay in house, though, like you're,
carolina you're one of the bluebloods, you can get Like Duke
wanted to stay in-house, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
But it's different though.
Like they, they had options.
They grew that, they like,nurtured that from the start.
Like, hey, sit on the bench,you're going to move up within
the bench, you're going to dothis Like he learned every spot
on that bench, and then Coach Kpersonally like hey, by the way,
I am now grooming you for myspot.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
And then he I'm going to retire, and if you don't
give it to him, I'm not retiringanymore.
But as long as Coach K wasthere they had what 40 years to
get guys?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
50?
I don't know how long he wasthere forever.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Imagine all the guys that come through there.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
He's another one.
We knew he was going to coachfor a long time.
He was not going to be ashort-timer ever.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
He picked the right time to go, though.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
He did.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
He did as much as I dislike Duke.
He might be the best basketballcoach in my lifetime.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I mean there's probably some guys back in the
day as far as college coaches go.
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
He's a great football coach, it'd be really hard to
fight.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
that he's really good .
You can't.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
To keep up that success for that period of time
and to evolve with the game.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yes, that's huge, but I Does the ACC have the best
coaches of all time.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yes, big East could Big.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
East is my next one that I'd probably go to.
But you look at it like KayWilliam Smith it runs deep.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, Shire now.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Now, I think Kentucky had some fantastic coaches, but
I don't think the SEC as awhole did.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
SEC is getting a lot of the good young coaches now.
They've got some fantasticcoaches now.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I'm just thinking like over not counting current
guys, because there's nobodythat really has a ton of tenure
right now.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
I think the Big East is the only one that rivals it.
I really like the idea of theBig East.
It's pretty cool to me.
The old Big East.
Yeah, it's your conferencetournaments in Madison Square
Garden.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Like.
Syracuse going to like eightovertimes.
That's what I remember of thebig east like those were.
Those were different days, butthat was a tournament, that
saint john's being really goodas an acc fan like you watch acc
.
Yeah, and the only other term Iwas excited about would have
been big east, because that wasjust felt like such a big deal
and it's a different like styleof game.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
So very much so like they will, like I mean they're
like fighting basically for arebound, like literally like oh,
100, yeah, they play.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
They play much more of kind of like a northern style
ball Like it's physical.
It's much more physical.
It's much more get after it inyour face style.
Well, everything in North StLouis We've talked about with
football 100% hockey andeverything up there socially it
is yeah, but I say the way thepeople are mentioned st john's I
feel like they underperformed100 this year.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Like they had such a good team, I had them final four
.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
No, I had them leave eight okay, uh, but if you look
at the record of patino versuscal cal oh, cal owns him it's
like absolutely I don't know ifcal gets into his head or what
it is, but they're.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
They're seeing it like everybody else.
They've already got transferportal stuff.
Yeah, like they're alreadydealing with their best player
entering well, the portal opened.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
What I can't stay around the sweet 16 games.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
I can't stay.
Why is the portal open beforethe term?

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I wouldn't be surprised if that changes.
I think it's got to it to me.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
It's just too much of a distraction.
Yeah, I think it would becauseif you're still in the
tournament, you can't tell meyou're out recruiting right now
to do.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
They're expecting the judge to make a decision on
where schools can pay and allthat stuff.
And they're actually saying alot of these players want to get
signed before then because youcan get a whole lot more money
right now.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
There's money in it right now.
Get your bag now, becauseyou're not going to get it after
.
If the judge decides for theschools to do it the money's
gone.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I'm sure it will the amount of money, because then
they're gonna limit what schoolscan spend and you gotta.
I'm just curious, like is it?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
gonna be a blanket across the board everybody gets
this or is it gonna just be likefootball was for the longest?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
alabama, texas, you know these big schools the last
thing you've got tens ofmillions more so well, the last
thing they said schools could dois supposed to be like a limit.
Every school gets like I don'tknow what it was 20 million or
something, but that's for yourwhole athletic department.
So, as a school, you're goingto decide do I want to spend
more money on football orbasketball?

Speaker 1 (22:27):
You've got a ton of football players, but that's why
I think we're no longer goingto see seven figures.
If you make a lot of money thebiggest guy is going to be a
half mil.
I just don't see you being two,three, four million.
I agree, you can't tell me thatCarson Beck is worth four
million.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
He's not worth four million.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Like the only thing he's known for right now is the
fact that he had his car stolenand broke up with his girlfriend
.
That's all we know about him atthis point, and we paid him
four million to go to Miami.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
It should be an investment.
So how does the school gettheir money back?

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Like $400 is a lot of money for one player, but I
think that's why NIL currentlyis so ridiculous, because
there's no way to get that moneyback.
Now here's the thing.
I say that.
But these schools make billions.
The NCAA makes billions, sothey're giving pennies out but
still, at the end of the day,running a business, you're not

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just going to hand out money ifyou're not getting something for
it.
Running a business, you're notjust going to hand out money if
you're not getting something forit.
Because, I mean, they went andgot Cam Ward, made it to the
Pop-Tart Bowl.
Good job, the Pop-Tart.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Bowl.
I mean, that's what they madeSome of these bowl games.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
And then ended up losing because he quit at
halftime.
So you rented a guy for a year.
Didn't win a championship.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Who was really good, though, by the way.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
He's fantastic.
I'm not doubting his skill.
It's just they played in ahorrible conference and
ultimately just missed out onpercentage points.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
All right, while we're on basketball, let's just
jump in it.
Florida Auburn.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
I'm picking Florida personally.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Florida.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I think Florida's playing really well right now.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I think they're going to be tough.
Auburn, I'm with the wheel.
I think I got Auburn Auburn's agood this year.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Auburn.
Like at the SEC tournament,they were not playing well.
After the second round of theNCAA tournament, they started
clicking again.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
So Auburn's a really complete team.
I just feel like Florida is hotat the right moment.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, maybe I don't know.
Purdue gave them a lot ofproblems, though.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
They did.
But I do think that Purdue teamis.
They're just a scrappy, toughteam.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I don't think they're a great team.
I just think they're superscrappy.
If you don't play guys likethat, it's hard to get used to
it.
I hate picking Bruce Pearl.
I do not like him.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
You're not a Pearl fan I can't figure out if I like
him or not.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I love his energy and his passion but I I kind of
don't like him as a person.
I think he's like a littleshady and I think that his kids,
his players A little shady, alittle sleazy, a little rough to
cheer, for he kind of looksthat way.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
His players.
I just don't like the way theyplay.
I don't know.
They talk a lot and they talkback to him and it's part of the
game now.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, it's a culture that feels a little odd.
It is a super like, like who'srunning the show?
It's not a dictatorship.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
But they're winning.
It may not be the coachesanymore.
On most teams they're thenumber one overall seed for a
reason.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Oh, correct.
Yeah, I mean, but that's a team, you know, obviously this is
episode 20.
When we've talked SEC, some ofthe up-down, whatever Auburn's
legit.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
We've never argued.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Auburn is super, super good.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
I don't like that.
They're playing another SECschool in the Final Four.
I get it when you have 14 teamsin they're going to happen.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I'd say the problem is, the only other way is if
they'd have gotten flipped andit would be Duke-Auburn or
Duke-Florida right now, and Ireally just don't think that's
the game they ultimately wanted.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I think they wanted to not see two SEC teams there.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
They wanted to see somebody else in an SEC.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
It would have been tough to have an SEC
championship In their mind, butobviously what?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
this is the second time ever.
All four number ones Like thisis not a common.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
It is.
It's not a common occurrence.
What 2008?
Yeah Is the other time yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Purple.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Hill won.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Oh wait no they won a nine.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
No they won a nine because 7-8 was Florida.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Back to back.
8 was Kansas right, Becausethey beat Cal at Memphis, if I
remember right.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh, that was 8, right , so it was 6-7 that Florida
went back and forth.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Sorry, 6-7.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, because that was God.
Derrick Rose just sounbelievable.
But Mario Chalmers playedamazing.
I remember that game.
I watched every second of thatgame.
That was a fantastic game,overtime game.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I think going back to Auburn, people really talk
about Broome and how good he isoh, 100%, and he is dominant at
times.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
He's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
He had a double-double in the first half
last game.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
He had a triple-double and at the end
they're like wait, you had atriple-double.
They were kind of surprisedbecause the double-double was so
quick and the other was justreally quiet.
It just happened.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
They have these guards like Baker Mazar is, I
think, unbelievable, and I thinkthat their guard that comes off
the bench, todd Pettiford, Ithink that, dude is the real
deal.
Auburn's a deep team, that'sthe one thing, they're old, they
are old.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
You don't have a bunch of freshman sophomore guy
like.
This is an old team.
They've been around.
They've won ball games everyyear because auburn's been good
for the past few years.
They just not been great.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, like this is the first like great auburn team
and it's like to me too, like Iwant duke or houston to win it,
like I have houston.
Are you anti-scc?
I, I have like this weird thingwith sec where I'm like they're
getting good at basketball andI kind of I just kind of want to
be like listen, like this isyour thing.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I feel the sec was overrated all year.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
I do too.
I also think, the middle of thepack sec was such a, I just
really want to be like listenbut when you see your thing
stick to football.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Let the acc big east Just dominate basketball, yeah.
But the thing is Like the ACCBetter start getting good, I
know, because outside of Dukethere is no good team, wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
ACC have Seven in Sweet 16 or something.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
They did.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
It was Like, I mean, they hung around a while ACC, no
SEC, no SEC.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
But here's the thing when you go back and look,
Missouri was Probably shouldn'thave been there.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Georgia shouldn't have been there.
Some of the teams that they gotin were not like Texas was not
a good team.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I think the top six was pretty legit, and then
Arkansas got good at the end?

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Do we really know?
Because the problem is theyjust beat up on each other all
year.
Now they did win the ACC-SECchallenge.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
That's what I'm saying.
When they got, in thetournament they hung on pretty
good.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
This is the one year that you say, okay, that doesn't
even matter, the ACC was so badthis year, yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Across the board.
Yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Clemson was a team that should have done better in
the tournament than they did.
They played such a bad half ofbasketball.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
But you don't think is there a chance?
Acc is down because ACC isgrowing so much.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I don't think so.
I literally think it's the factof the ACC doesn't understand
NIL yet I mean, I could see that.
The fact, like Carolina, one ofyour biggest programs in the
country, doesn't know how to doNIL, and that's a shame Cooper
Davis just finally hired ageneral manager for the program.
But what took so long?

(29:02):
I know Like, if you know you'renot good at that preseason,
we've got to have something.
He's figured it out.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Now let's look at the tournament SEC teams Texas A&M
Obviously Auburn's still in it,so they push through.
They beat Ivy League Yale bynine Correct.
Then they lose big to MichiganCorrect.
Ole Miss beats a bad Carolinateam, A very bad Carolina team.
They beat a bad Iowa State teamA very bad Iowa State team, not

(29:28):
a good.
Iowa State team without theirbest player.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
No, so I'm not crazy.
I wasn't sold on anybody.
So the Big 12 to me felt likethe ACC this year, houston, and
then everybody else yeah, andthey weren't very good Duke, and
then everybody else for ACC.
It's felt that way from thestart of the season.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Ole Miss then loses to Michigan State in a close
game.
So props to Ole Miss.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
I think Florida made it through, yeah, but again
that's part of that top four ofthe ACC, we said could play in
any league.
They're just good, the fourcould.
We said that from very early onthough.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Missouri loses to Drake by 10.
Yep, arkansas makes a run.
I still think that St John's isbetter.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I think Arkansas got good at the end of the year.
They kind of put it together.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Mississippi State loses to Baylor, and that is
Vanderbilt just loses to StMary's.
Yeah, Vanderbilt was there Bamamakes a run, so we're talking
about three or four teams.
Kentucky, four teams we'retalking about four teams.
That and then Tennessee.
So five, five teams out of thatleague that made a little bit

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of a run.
So to me that's a top-heavyleague 100%.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
No, I get your point.
Like I said, I watched them alot because of Kentucky.
I think they were pretty good.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
But you're also watching.
You're watching them play eachother.
That's kind of a watch.
That doesn't mean anything atthat point.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
We can nitpick everybody about you lost to this
team, beat that team in thetournament, but for that many to
keep moving, so I was curious.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
But I think when you look at SEC non-conference play,
they played no one Outside ofthe top five teams.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
But you can't say you know, if you win the tournament
, you're a champion.
And the teams that made it allthe way into Sweet 16, oh, they
played, nobodies.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
But you can, though.
That's the thing.
The fact of the draw Like OleMiss doesn't make it that far,
unless you play to their place.
I was curious.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
When 14 got in, I was like okay, like okay, how many
is going to move on?
I think I I said eight orsomething like that.
Eight went to the next roundand you had seven go to sweet 16
and I think you had what fivemove on, something like that.
It was four or five, whateverit was.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
The five is not the argument like the, the top five
of that's kind of like all right, like yeah, they've been good,
but when you have 16, teams.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
You had three in the elite eight, two went through.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I'veano lost yeah, but you can't expect 10 to get
there.
Like what are the?
I mean, look at the otherconferences.
They don't have anything evenclose to that.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
So I mean this year.
No, I agree, the acc has doneit for no.
No, but that's what we'retalking about this year yeah
this year sec was better overallthan than every other
conference oh, without it I,that's all I'm saying.
Top of of it was.
Top of it was.
I don't think their middle ofthe pack would have lost in the
Big 12.
They would have lost probablythe Big 10, and they would have

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100% lost anything up with UConnSt John's.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
That was a good conference.
Arkansas would have been topthree, four in ACC and they were
10th in ACC.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
So ACC, you can't count this year.
That's the one thing.
There's nobody there.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
No, I get what you're saying, but I'm just saying if
we're comparing conferences Inthe Big 12, they're like sixth,
I would say towards the end ofthe year.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Acc was relatively pretty, it was solid.
I mean Wake Forest I thoughtwas a good team Legitimately.
I thought Clemson was a goodteam.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Clemson was better than what they produced.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
But Clemson's also not used to being in the
tournament.
They've had one good run.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
They've had one good run in like 10 years.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I thought Louisville was good.
I thought Louisville shouldhave had a better seed than they
got.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
I think so too.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Well, that hurt them bad.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Getting an eight was tough, I think, beating them in
the tournament without flag, Ithink, hurt them and the ACC oh
100, because it losing to thatteam the way they did without
the best, really the stud likeit.
Yeah, so that's like okay, sowho's who is?
I bet I know who you're gonnasay, david, but who is the
national player of the yearbasketball?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
national player of the year.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
I think, flag.
It's gotta be flag or broomyeah, so that's, and that's what
the big debate is.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, but I think to me you go either way.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Who do you think I was going to say?
Broome, because he's SEC.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I don't think I argue , though either way.
No what's weird, though, Ithink, statistically they've put
the numbers up.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Kentucky fans typically don't pull for SEC,
because SEC no and it's not.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
So I'm not really like, oh it's SEC kind of guy.
I just really thought they weregood.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I'd pull for ACC minus Duke.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
I don't think it's for ACC period.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
But the ACC doesn't have the same rivalries Like the
SEC has, like the rivalriesoutside of Carolina Duke Because
of football they run so deepLike it is a hatred-filled
league because of football.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
But you made a comment SEC, stick to football.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I don't mind that, because I want Kentucky to be
back on the top every year, Iknow, but now they're competing,
I would say yeah, for so manyyears it was Kentucky and
everyone else.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Baseball-wise, SEC is the most dominant.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Without a doubt.
Without a doubt, they arestacked from top to bottom.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Let me ask you this because I just saw this the
other day.
It was Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
all this, the other day and it was kentucky who was
it?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
texas, they stalled the game, basically it was
kentucky texas tech yeah, texanm.
So what do you think?

Speaker 3 (34:30):
about it.
So we actually talked about ittoday before our game.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Our staff, a couple of us well, if everybody don't
know.
I don't know if you've seen it,tyler- I haven't seen it.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I guess there's a rule.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Explain the rule, because I don't understand the
rule completely, like the timeor whatever there's like I can't
remember the name.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Off the top of my head it's like a daylight rule
where kentucky for travelpurposes they have to leave by a
specific time okay whateverokay.
So, um, when it hits that time,sec bylaws, game's over.
It's like a time limit, no more.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
It's like it's basically, literally, it's only
time limit.
Third game of the series right.
So basically you've got to geton the road to get back where
you're going, because it'sSunday, or something I think
you've got to get to class so.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Kentucky stalled in every way shape or form, so what
they did is mountain visits.
They were taking like havingguys step off.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Question is there a limit on mountain visits in
college like MLB?

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, Okay, and it trickles down to high school.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Do they have a pitch clock?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I wasn't sure what they were doing.
Okay, so they do have a pitchclock so they were just taking
every second on the pitch clock.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
They would burn the pitch clock down.
Then the catcher would use oneof their timeouts to go talk
Offensive meetings.
You get three in college.
No, you get two in collegebaseball, okay, throughout a
game, gotcha, where you can calltime.
You get like a minute and ahalf you can talk to the batter
about whatever you want.
So they burned everything.
So they were burning everythingthey've got and not only were

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they doing that, they werechanging pitchers.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
So like when you change pitchers, because then
you get warm-ups, you get allthe time in between, and so so
they're burning everythingthey've got Heated, heated and
it wasn't really a close game.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
It was a seven-run game.
It was 10-5.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
If it was one point, I'd be really mad.
Yeah, does that make adifference to you or are you
okay with it, since they're inthe rules?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
We do it in some ways , not with necessarily ending
games, but for example, I have aguy in the bullpen that is
warming up.
He needs more time to get warm.
I'll send the catcher out to gotalk.
I'll wait for the umpire to goget him.
They'll walk all the way back.
I'll go out.

(36:32):
I'll call time, use my mound,visit.
I'll wait until the umpirecomes out.
Then we go back again.
Guy steps on the rubber.
I call time, I slowly walk outand then I put the guy in and
really we.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I call time, I slowly walk out and then I put the guy
in and really we get like youcould get like up to like 10 to
15 more pitches in the bullpento get ready, really get your
arm activated.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
And so I actually like it.
I think it's, it is Well realquick.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
For those of you who don't know, will is the head
baseball coach at Brevard HighSchool.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
The manager yes, sorry.
The head manager, the clubhousemanager?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
yeah, he's the clubhouse manager, they don't
really have a clubhouse.
They're kind of poor, they'retrying to figure it out, but no
they've excelled a ton from whatit was, Like you've really
brought the team forward intechnology, like trying to move
forward, Like hey, we've got tobe modern.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
If we're going to succeed, we've got to be what
everybody else is doing so.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I think they've done a great job with that.
But just for those that don'tknow, he is the manager of the
baseball team here.
So that's where we're goingwith that discussion, not just.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
He's doing this in Little League, so you're okay
with what Kentucky did then yeah, I am, so should the other.
I still feel like even if it'sokay, it's still okay for Texas
A&M coach would be mad, right?
I mean, I wouldn't want iteither.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
But I think, as the other coach, you have to be Like
, you have to be mad At thatpoint.
That's your job.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
And it does like toe the line of like integrity of
the game a little bit, but Ifeel as if baseball is like it's
chess.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I honestly thought you'd be like.
I hate that, no.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I feel Will is all for that, because it is so much
that, just like you're alwaystrying to bend the rules of
baseball, it's whatever you cando.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
We say it all the time it is so hard to win
baseball games.
Everything has to go right.
It is so hard to get wins inany sport.
It's so hard to win.
One loss can be the decidingfactor between a regional and
being at home 100%.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I think even Kentucky being up 10-5.
And Kentucky's not playing wellright now, that can swing
quickly in baseball Anythingthey can get.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Kentucky's not playing well right now and they
have a really good team, so Ithink that they're just trying
to get something kick-started.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
But then too, I feel it's different college compared
to the pros.
Well, the pros is just thelength of season.
You don't have theopportunities the same way that
you do, which I mean you've gotto shrink the MLB schedule 162
games.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
It is so long, so long I think you don't shrink it
under 100, but I think you canget to 100.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I think anything.
100 to 110,.
You've already done a betterjob.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
And what's crazy to me, though, like I'm a Cubs guy
Dansby, like he plays every game.
Yeah, yeah, he's not.
Can you imagine what it shouldbe playing?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
162 straight games.
Go back to cow ripken.
Go back to a guy like that.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
He's like I never missed a game you don't see load
management much, and then andthen you get anthony rendon,
who's missed more games thanhe's played and has made a bank
off of it.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I'm sure you're a hardcore fan, especially if you
live close to Chicago,cincinnati, where all these
teams are playing LA, whatever.
You're probably into it thewhole season, but I feel like an
average fan, even if you try toget into it halfway through,
you're kind of starting to checkout.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
You've been through so many games.
I don't know if baseball reallycares about the average fan.
It doesn't.
I think they make that fairlyclear.
I don't think they, I don'tthink they care, I mean.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
So I think they I think they've made some rule
changes to try to cater to it toan extent yeah with the whole.
Let's speed up a game.
Our base guard game time hasnow gone to like a two-hour game
.
Like really shrunk that down,but for me that almost feels
like it's more for TV than it isfor the actual fan Cause
they're wasting so much money oncommercials, correct?

Speaker 3 (40:07):
I also like they put opening day the same day as
sweet 16.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
They did.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
So, obviously, I think that the standard, though,
for pro, like a pro sports team, is NFL.
You look at what the NFL isdoing.
They were doing it right.
Like they are making so muchmoney, they're appeasing the
average fan.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
I'm not a football guy, but I watch the NFL.
See, that's the thing.
Neither of us are really bigNFL fans.
Now I will say I watched moreNFL this year than I have in a
long time.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
It felt a little bit better this year.
Roger Goodell is doing a goodjob.
I hate him, but I think he'sdoing great.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I think it's because I enjoy college football so much
.
It's not that I hate the NFL,but you saying that, I get your
point 100%, because they aredoing a lot.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I'm just a college football guy.
Well, speaking of the NFL, thebig thing coming out, currently
up for vote.
They started to vote it, theytabled it, they're going to
revisit it when owners meet inMay.
Tush, push, tush, push.
What's your stance?

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Because there's only one team doing it tush push
meaning you can, whoever has theball, you can push them in the
back, so technically but reallyonly one team is actually doing
this play because so theychanged the rule in 2005.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
You used to not be able to push a ball carrier
correct at all, like you weren'tallowed to get behind him.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Is this getting rid of that completely, or just that
one?
So?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I think that's kind of the argument right now is
should we go back to the 2005language or, excuse me, 2004 and
prior language, or do werewrite it altogether?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Because now you can see a lineman grab a running
back and like pull him acrossthe first down line and things
like that.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I don't have an issue with, like you, pushing a ball
carrier.
Personally, I don't have anissue with the whole tish push
play.
My view is they figured it out.
Figure out how to stop it.
Like all they do is bring arugby guy in.
Yeah, I don't have a problem,hire your own guy.
Figure out what you got to do.
It's leverage like that's.
That's literally all it is.
So figure out what it takes.
And they're also saying it'sthe first time in history

(41:59):
they've brought something to avote because of one team.
Like typically there's likelike five, six teams doing
something.
We've got to stop this, changethe league.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
This is for one team, saban complaining about teams
running fast.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
He did complain about the no huddle for a long time.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
But then he got with it, started doing it himself,
started figuring out how to stopit.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
What I found funny about this is the team that
brought this up was the Packers.
They are the ones that wrotethis like hey, we got to bring
this to a vote.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
I think Green Bay's got a bigger fish fry than the
Tish.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
That's kind of my thought Like why are you worried
about Philadelphia, Like youhave already lost, if you're
worried about Philadelphia, youneed to worry about your
quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Maybe they need to look at that and go, hey, we
should try that a time or two,maybe that'll teams have tried,
but I think they're.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
They're trying to copy the Eagles instead of
figure out how you actuallybecause no one else has John
hurts oh, a hundred percent.
That's a good point, he, but heis absolutely overlooked by
everyone.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Like they win because of him.
He is a winner, just what he is, he's good, he's done it
everywhere.
580 pounds.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Yeah, he's an.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
NBA game up here and I'm so tired of seeing walks in
the NBA.
I'm so anti-Gather step.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
I just saw it so much .
That was no Gather step.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
That was like three steps.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
So me and Will have had this discussion.
He's like oh, you're just oldand you like the old brand of
basketball.
I just think Gather is ruiningactual good moves.
That's how I feel about Gather.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
If you want Gather, fine, but they're still taking
three, four steps, most times,even with the gather.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Partly, that's just officiating.
I don't think officiating isstrict enough on anything,
though.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
The NBA is in a bad spot, I'll be the first to say I
agree with that.
I think everybody agrees withthat.
All of the reasons why wecomplain about it.
I want to see the most skilledathletic guys playing basketball
known to man.
I don't want to see Larry Birdplaying.
I don't want to see that.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
But I think the reason we complain about it is
because the NBA is in such a badspot.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
So at this point you're like I'm going to nitpick
everything because, they arenot doing much well, I don't
want to see Bill Lambert.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
That's not cool to me .
No, I want to see vignana likeshooting 40 footers and blocking
guts at the rim like yeah, so I?
I have no problem with theathletic play it's.
I'm not a fan of the sga.
Let's draw a foul on everysingle play, like I would rather
you just play ball, like Ithink sga is.
He's a fantastic player, buthe's getting to the point, like
he's now known for foul baitingevery single play.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
But if you can't defend it and he gets to the
free throw line, I would do thesame thing.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
But look how many times though refs are calling on
a reactive move Like oh, Ithrew my head up and they call
it.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
That's what I don't like I think officiating is a
point.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
The game is moving too fast.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
I watched the Add more officials.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Which game was it the other night?
To me it's like that's an easyfix.
I think it was a college gameblock charge Both officials, One
called block, one called charge.
They ended up doing a doublefoul on both teams.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
I don't like.
How can that be?
That's a badless job.
Oh, 100%.
I think the people that do it.
I don't know how people do it.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
It's a job I don't want in any way, shape or form I
would not be good at it.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
And I'd like never want to complain about
officiating, but the NCAAtournament this year has been
horrific, Like the officiatingthen like for the officials.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
It's getting bad.
There's one official I knowthat has his name on his chest.
Would you advocate for him?
No, I'm not going to use hisname, but you know exactly what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
He might be coming out here.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
I've never seen him here.
I've seen him at a local course, but I've never seen him here.
He's a member there, of coursehe is.
He's not welcome here.
I can tell you that, like I was, just like, I don't want his
money I was watching the dukearizona game.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Duke was up 21 and like it just felt like the
officials were really trying toget this game back and try to
make.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Try to make it worth watching ticky, tack ticky but
is that sports betting?
Is that what's causing that?
Yeah, I think sports betting isgoing to ruin it might.
I mean, I enjoy sports bettinga little bit just for the fun of
it.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
We're talking about getting lucky for Brevard High
School baseball.
That's sad.
I'm just kidding we're notdoing that.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
But the problem is though, like high school sports
are being bet on nowadays.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
No, I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I think they always have been.
I was going to say they havebeen a long time.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yes, but like to a, not just the backroom bets.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
I think you said there's a little insider click.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
There's too much like with your big schools not
talking this level.
No.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
But your no one's betting on the Rosman Right, but
you're.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Texas high school football.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yeah, they're betting .

Speaker 1 (46:33):
That is becoming like a true business now, not just
the little betting that's alwayshappened.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Well, look at their stadiums, I mean.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
They're bigger than most college stadiums yes, I
agree.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
How much easier would it be for me to get to the
local high school football coachand slip him a little bit of
money so I win this game,because it's bet then for me to
get to?
You know, nfl guy, I can getthese local guys easy, so I
think you can throw these gamesso much easier and nobody would
bat an eye because it's highschool sports things happen no
big deal.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, I don't know.
I just hope it never gets tothe point where I mean sports
are.
Just look at how our countryviews athletics in general.
Look how we paid them.
It's everything.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
The way they are paid .
We obviously think more highlyof that than we do many other
things.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
No, I mean you look at athletes.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Except WNBA.
I got both of y'all on that one.
I don't really want to get intoit.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Yeah, that's a whole different thing.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
We put athletes on a pedestal 100%.
I even tell my players all thetime people look to you
differently 100% Just becauseyou're an athlete.
It's crazy that it works thatway.
It was like that when I wasplaying in college.
People are always looking atyou because we like idolize it.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
We idolize everything you do.
Good or bad you are, you areviewed differently.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
I think that's it's like a little sad.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
How so.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Like that we as like we idolize athletic events like
what it's a game, it's a game.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
And like it is a game , but some of these people put a
lot of time and energy and likeit's everything to some of
these players, so do all of us,in our careers.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
It is, but that's where my frustration comes into
NBA, this whole load managementthing.
I'm not going to playback-to-back.
You're paid to play a game fora living.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
I can't stand that.
But what happens?
Okay, for example, Steph Curryis going to load manage this
year, and if it wasn't for loadmanaging, then he's going to win
an NBA championship.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
It's not prime Curry though.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
I'm saying in prime Curry years, Whoever LeBron when
he was with the Heat, he loadmanaged and he attributes a lot
of them winning because he wasable to rest.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Also a little different when you have three
Hall of Famers on one team Makesit a little bit easier.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Pick any modern NBA champion Like Kawhi Leonard.
He is a prime example of loadmanagement.
He was the first loadmanagement and when he was in
Toronto he load managed and thenthey won when they weren't even
supposed to.
And if I'm a GM and I can saywell, kawhi leonard can play all
82 games or he can play 60 andwe wouldn't be, so I don't.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
I don't have a problem with you saying I'm the
same way you take like 10.
You take 10 games off theseason.
That, to me, is different thansome of these guys that
literally will not play aback-to-back ever.
That, to me, though, is thedifference in like I don't feel

(49:33):
missing 10 games is loadmanagement.
Like in everybody's job, youtake a day off.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
But does it come back to just the season's too long?
Fix that, and you don't needload management 82 is a little
different.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
I feel like the NBA season's too long.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I do too.
That's what I'm saying.
If you bring it down, you maynot need load management, okay.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
The problem is you shrink schedules Correct, they
lose money.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
That's why they're all that long.
Too much money and fans keeppaying, and also as a sports fan
, I don't want to have thesedead periods of no sports.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
The NBA makes so much money, Whether they're in a
good spot or not.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
there is so much money moving around the NBA In
June, when the only thing on isa 1 o'clock game for the Cubs, I
want to be able to say hey,game six of the finals is
tonight.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Correct Summer is the hardest part in sports like
that it is, but it's a hard timein sports but it's also the
time that you're doing the most.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
You're busy, so you don't feel like you have to have
it.
I'll tell you what, though.
When we're in olympic year,though, I am locked in in the
summer, oh 100, I'm watchingevery team.
You, I'll, I'll wake up earlywhenever in beijing I'll wake up
at 4 am to watch team usa playwatch them curling or something
yeah like I'm talking aboutwinter olympics, though I, yeah,
my bad, I don't even watch.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
I don't feel that way about winter Olympics.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I don't watch the Olympics at all.
I only watch team USAbasketball.
That's it Really.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I, oh, I'll watch.
I'll watch everything.
I just think it's fun.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I fell in love with team USA basketball when I was a
kid, when I got the 08 redeemteam right and like.
Ever since then I've been withthem when they lost in 2019 or
2020, when they lost in thebronze game.
Like that's the only thing I'llturn on anymore.
Like I'll watch the winterolympics because I think some of
that stuff's really cool.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
But well, we're trying to go full circle real
quick, because we did talk aboutauburn, florida, duke hou, duke
, houston, we skipped around.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
I know we'd come back to it, trying to weave it back
somehow.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
I was thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I want to get to that final, because there are a few
other things I want to get into,but I want to kind of wrap that
up to an extent.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
We made our picks.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
You guys were both Auburn.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I'm saying Florida were both Auburn, I'm saying
Florida Duke-Houston.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
I hate to say it.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
I think Duke wins it.
I feel that way.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I feel Duke as well, but I'm also at this point I'm
looking for the best basketballgame, and to me, I think the
best championship isDuke-Florida.
I think that would just be afantastic game.
But I also feel the way Duke isplaying right now.
I don't know that anybody beatsthem.
I just feel like it's reallyhard for them to lose right now.
They'll just have to have areally bad night, but the way

(52:08):
they played against Alabamalooked dominant, like it was
absolutely dominant.
They're good From there, though.
I know you guys saidAuburn-Duke, I said Duke-Florida
.
Who do you have winning it?
Who's your pick from here?

Speaker 2 (52:26):
That's tough.
I think it's going to be areally good game.
I really do.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
So for you guys, Duke-Auburn, we've seen that
once this year.
It was a good game, but thatwas fairly early.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
I think both teams are better now than they were
then.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I think they're infinitely better.
Yeah, I don't think it's thesame game.
I think we're going to see twovery different teams.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
I mean I know Two complete teams, Duke's playing a
whole different lineup.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, but that was the early Duke still that I felt
like they weren't reallyrunning much offense.
They had started to, but it wasstill very like a little more
ISO style play.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
And then they got this Are you still going?

Speaker 1 (53:05):
to say no.
No, he's superstitious, he'sgoing to pick anyone at this
point.
Florida's winning it all, evensaying Auburn.
He's like I'm trying to get mytwo teams there and how can I
make this work?
I personally think at thispoint, duke-florida.
I think it could.
I don't want to say I thinkDuke wins, because I'm going to

(53:27):
cheer for Florida, but I thinkthis Duke team is tough.
I think it's going to be areally hard year for them to
lose, I'm the same way.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
I'm going to cheer for Auburn or Florida, whoever's
there.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
I think it's going to be Auburn.
I'll do the same.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Whoever's there I'm going to cheer for there's a
good chance Duke wins it.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I mean, they're the most complete team.
I feel like in their depthwhat's?

Speaker 3 (53:52):
the kid I talked about him the other night.
White kid Conn Knipple.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Knipple.
How can you forget Knipple,such a unique name?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I don't know.
I just don't want to feel likesaying Nipple all the time, but
I feel a guy like him is whythey truly win.
Yeah, like not their bestplayer, probably not their
fourth best player potentiallike he's.
He's so useful in so many ways,that's why he's so good, but
he's not the guy that you'rejust like.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
That's who's gonna be and you can I mean he's old,
beyond his years, he could do so.
So much, he's a mature kid hecan do so much, I think I mean,
he's what controlled that, thatalabama game, like his defense,
his play, his everything, theonly thing that I don't love
like, okay, on paper, duke, theyhave the makeup, they have the
older guys mixed in with a lotof young talent, sure, the only

(54:35):
thing that is like they don'thave a ton of depth and they
play like a seven, eight manrotation, and those you know,
like the isaiah evans kid,correct, has his minutes have
completely dropped um to wherehe got in for two possessions
against Alabama.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
So foul trouble is how you beat them, but how deep
is?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Auburn and Florida.
Are they more than eight?

Speaker 3 (54:56):
men, I think Florida's deep.
I think that Florida playedtheir same five at the end of
the game against Purdue, but Ithink they're too deep
everywhere.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Is it just me, or is that truck really loud?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
It's got some bass to it.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
I'll give it that.
Sounds like my truck.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Does it.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
You know what I'm saying, kind of beefy yeah, did
somebody cut out?

Speaker 4 (55:17):
your catalytic converter.
Your truck should not soundlike that.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
If your truck sounds like that, please go take a look
at that.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I can't see it from here because it's dark out there
, but when the door shut it hadthat old-style truck sound like
click.
Oh, it's an old truck, is it?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:33):
that's my league partner over there.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Oh, is it really.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Yeah, he had to drive that.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
I think he wrecked his truck today, or?

Speaker 1 (55:41):
something, so he was driving the old one.
So, yeah, he pulled up in thatthing late and I had to give him
a hard time.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
I like a good old truck.
Some of those are good.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Oh yeah, but steel body, that's a whole different
ballgame.
You start putting the old likewell-built, fully metal body
trucks.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
that's different.
I think I'm going to rev it upover there in a minute, All
right.
So I'm saying Auburn-Duke,You're saying, I'm saying
Florida-Duke and I'munfortunately picking Duke.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
I'm unfortunately picking Duke.
I'm going to cheer for anybodybut him.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
I'm the same way.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I'm going to say Duke wins it, but I'm going to cheer
hard for Auburn and obviouslyWill's not going to say Duke.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
As a fan.
He wants.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Duke I mean as a fan of your team.
Obviously that's who you want.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I would do about anything.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Root against them.
I would say at this point youwere actively picking against
them.
I think Shire deserves this.
One Deserves is a strong word?

Speaker 3 (56:35):
No, I think he does.
I think he's coach of the year.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I think this guy is the best coach in college
basketball.
I think I'd be surprised ifanybody but him wins coach of
the year.
I think there's a few potentialdark horses.
Getting St John relevant again,I think puts Patino few
potential dark horses, I mean.
Getting getting St Johnrelevant again, I think puts
Patino up there for that it'sespecially he's been around like
the man can coach.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
He's done it how many succession plans have worked
very few.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
I get coach of the year if they win the
championship.
What he's done, but he's alsogot Cooper Flagg, so which is
why he should be coach of theyear, but as I say he got him.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Who else got?

Speaker 2 (57:09):
him.
Yeah, I mean Rooker is part ofit and the thing is, look at who
you're competing against.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
The guy's from Maine, like all of those schools up
there, are going after him sohard.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
I like to see coach of the year, somebody that took
a team that you didn't and getto the end.
It's been really good.
Even the.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
St John's team like you said Rick Pitino.
Yeah, but St John, I think weall saw that coming After last
year.
It was like, hey, st John'sgetting ready to be relevant
again.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Who did more with less.
I mean I understand whereyou're coming from yeah, that's
kind of the thought.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
So I get that, but I also think, though, you have to
look at who got that team there.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
No, I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Like you recruited that Shire doesn't have the name
Patino does?
Patino walks in your house.
You know who that man is.
He's been around forever.
He's won a championship.
He's been at Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
He's been at Louisville.
We're turning the page on that,like we're turning the page on
the Patinos the Calparis.
It the Peyton, the Patinos theCalparis.
It's like a new age of coaches.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
No, I agree, I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
I agree with that I think Shire's going to be the
trailblazer of that.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
You know I wouldn't mind even as much as I hate
Louisville, pat Kelsey did apretty good job with what he had
to have no team and come inthere and put it together like
that.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Well, I can't remember the about Mark Pope too
, but Mark Pope did great at BYU.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
I think Mark Pope's just a good coach.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
He never won a championship game there.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
No, but it's BYU.
He's very A little different.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Mark Pope dropped out of school to be a surgeon or
something to go start coaching.
He was three years in, orsomething like that.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
He's a smart dude.
I think he has the mind for it.
I just think he didn't have theteam for it.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
No, I agree.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
There was no skill.
I say there's no skill there.
There's no Kentucky-level skillat that school currently.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Well, that's where I think Louisville come from.
Nothing the past couple yearswhere Kenny Payne was there.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Let's say what two years ago they lost to an NAIA
school.
That should never happen.
Your third string should beatthem.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
No.
So to come back from whatthey've had and to do that, I
think that's a pretty good year.
But I get the point If you goin the championship and you've
got a team like Duke has, Ican't argue it either, to be
honest with you Well.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
so again, I don't want to see anyone at Duke win
anything, but yeah, I feel likeit would be hard for him not to
win coach of the year.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
No one's won more games in their first three years
than John Shire has.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Yeah, he just broke the record against Alabama,
right?
So yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Well, this is the time.
You know that first year or twoyou're like, okay, well, he's
getting the leftovers, butthey're starting to, he's
starting to get in his own timenow.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Well, now it's K team .
This is a fully his guys.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
I think that changes a little bit too, though,
because of transfer portal,because guys can leave every
year if they want, so it's notlike he just got left to these
guys, he still has to keep themthere, so it is a little
different than what he used tobe.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Well, so I think he loses a ton of this team.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
But I don't think it's transfer portal.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
it is going to be the no but now he can load back up
in the transfer portal insteadof relying on freshmen and who
wouldn't want to go there rightnow?
You'd be stupid not to whowouldn't want to go there with
the nil money that they havepoured into, because all the
other sports well, that's that'sfor now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Like the thing is that nil money is going to
change, we talked about that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I don't know how this works because they're private
school, so they don't even haveto say what they're paying
anybody.
They probably don't have to saywhat they're going to pay
players either.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Correct, but I think some of that, once that gets
signed off, is going to beconference-wide.
I think the conferences willadopt it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
They're going to have to make them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
And if so, it's going to be all right.
Duke, even though you'reprivate, you can't do this, and
everybody else not.
I I think it would beconference mandated.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
If I'm Duke, I say make me or I'm out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Then I think we're going to see a change back to
like cultures standards being areally big deal for these
programs.
You're going to see teams havemore identity than we have in
the last three years.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I'm okay to an extent I don't think it needs to go
fully back.
I just don't think.
I think we're too far gone atthis point to go fully back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
But I do think there needs to be something to it.
It just seems like weimplemented NIL without really
knowing what we were gettinginto.
Oh, 100%.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
We opened the floodgates.
That was an NCAA thing.
We didn't crack the seal on it.
We've opened the floodgates.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
They should have got ahead of it and had this set
right to begin with.
Instead they fought it foryears until players started
suing them.
Then the judges said you can'tdo that no more.
If they would have got out infront of it and done it right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
It would have been good.
Stinking Ed O'Bannon ruinedcollege football video games for
years.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
That was the worst thing ever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
I'm so glad to have that back, but a guy like him,
who was a nobody like on the endof a UCLA bench, completely
changed the landscape of theentire NCAA, really, I mean for
the rest of our lives, yeah.
So I don't know what the nextstep is as far as how they truly

(01:01:55):
do it the right way.
I would like to see some, likeyou said, some culture get
brought back into it, somepedigree like I'm here because I
care to be here, but I'm alsogetting something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
But if you can get the same money anywhere, I think
that'll come back.
I think so getting some If youcan get the same money anywhere,
I think that'll come back.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
I think so too.
I don't like that.
You can transfer in conference.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I just have always questioned.
That's an uncomfortable thing.
Think about back in high school.
I can remember playing againstsome guys that their family
moved.
It wasn't a choice that theytransferred, but they
transferred and you play themand it's like no, they're a
traitor, whether you like it ornot you just are.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
My problem is, if you're going to restrict the
players, you've got to restrictthe coaches the same way.
If they can go wherever,whenever, then you've got to let
the players do it.
Now I'm not opposed to saying,coaches, you can't go in
conference either, didn't youused to have to sign the?

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
coaches of universities, they picked it.
If they want to put it as aclause, they did.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
When I was in college , we weren't allowed to transfer
in conference.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
So I don't have a problem with that.
My issue, though, is like, takean SEC.
You're at Vandy because it'sSEC, you're getting notoriety,
and all of a sudden, kentuckycomes open and they call you
Like, call you like.
I feel bad for that guy to beable to say, well, you can't
transfer within conference, likeas a coach, like you can't take
that job because it's inconference.
Yeah, that's a job of alifetime.

(01:03:13):
Like the same thing, like ifyou're currently at miami, which
is a horrible place to be,which they're getting a good
coach now, but previously, andduke or carolina calls like I
feel like it's different.
Yeah, to me it's almost likeyou shouldn't be able to
transfer.
If it's another top team, duke,guys shouldn't go to Carolina,

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carolina guys shouldn't go toDuke.
Currently, alabama guysshouldn't go to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Kentucky or Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
We've talked about this though that just feels
different.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Players used to hate each other.
There used to be even in theNBA.
We talked about Michael Jordanand some of these guys, but it
was the same way.
In college you would have neverseen a North Carolina guy even
think about Duke or Kentucky oranything like that.
Now it's kind of like well,money, I can go there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
It's not the same hatred.
Nobody cares the same way.
Because you were there becauseyou're getting paid, not because
you really truly wanted to bethere, I'll swing back.
Oh, of course I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Everything in life does.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
I just don't think we ever see it fully go back,
because now that money'sinvolved, I just don't think it
can.
I just don't think it'spossible, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Well, I've got a random question for y'all,
because this has been on my mindsince I saw it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Okay, y'all probably saw the tsunami or something
somewhere.
Tsunami or something somewhere.
What was the tsunami?
No, earthquake.
Earthquake in Thailand.
Yeah, is that what it was, andthey had the pools up top and
the pools are swashing and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Okay, so then that got me thinking.
First of all, I don't want tobe in a pool that high up.
Anyways, even earthquake or not.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Rooftop pools are awesome.
I don't want to be in abuilding that high up here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
It's weird because I like to go up in helicopters, in
private planes, but man-madestuff I don't want to go in, I
don't trust it.
Planes are man-made, but I sawthese two Planes are what?

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Man-made.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
I know, but you can still glide.
You're up on the.
It's not like the building'sgoing to fall, whatever.
I saw these two buildings thatwere connected With a pool and
the pool was over top of likenothing.
There is no way, and there werelike people swimming in it and
all this crap.
Would either one of y'all getin there?
No, I would.
I mean, we're talking what?
Was it 100 stories up orsomething crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
No way.
Unreal Glass bottom You'relooking down.
That doesn't bother me.
Heights doesn't bother me.
No, like I'm not.
It's not a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I think the caption I saw was like have these people
ever seen what's the movie FinalDestination, final Destination
or something like that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
So that's in remake right now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Is it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
That's coming back out because I saw a meme that
was like now all of these kidsare going to be terrified of
random everyday things, like wewere for the past 30 years.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
They count.
It's coming back too by the.
Is it really?
I didn't see that they count ittoo.
I didn't see that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I don't know, I saw that and I was like there is
absolutely no way I would get it.
I'm not going to be up on therooftop anyway, it's probably
not that high.
We went, we were somewhere onvacation and we went up in
Lighthouse and you know we'regoing up the not.
Like I said, I'm not terrifiedof heights, but it's just
something weird about it and Istepped out on the thing and I
was like oh crap, and I justbacked up against it.

(01:06:11):
It's a whole different, though,because there's not much to it
like a lighthouse, is not a verylarge I know, but but they had
like railings, like you, itwould have been so hard to even
even in high skyscrapers.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
You can feel the building sway, oh 100 and I
filmed for the football team.
In the fall we had to sit ontop of the press box at our
stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
But that's a windy area too, though, and you can
feel it move.
There's always a breeze comingthrough.
You didn't like that, no?

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I did that once at a college football game.
We might have actually been thevery top thing when I was a kid
, and what was weird?
The worst thing was when youlooked up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
My knees got weak and I was like holy crap, this is
weird.
Like if I was looking down atthe field, I was fine.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
But it was something weird.
My thing is like this life isgreat and I'm not going to put
that into jeopardy on purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
You know I used to always want to skydive, no shot
and as I've gotten a littleolder.
No way I think of that.
There is no way.
I'm like man.
What if that's the one time Ishoot?
Don't.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Open or something that would be the one time we're
going down.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
I feel very different now about things than I did
when I was 20.
As soon as kids are in theequation, things are very, very
different.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Will that flip back when we get 70?
We're like let's go skydiving.
Who cares?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Life now is very different than what it was, a
long time, yeah, but like you'relike 75.
It's like all right, I've beenthere, done everything else,
I've only got a couple of yearsleft.
I give it a shot.
No See, last week you saidyou're going to a hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
That's what I did.
Say that, yeah, you did.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
I don't think it's happening.
Possibly can.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
That doesn't mean long, though, like you can say
it could be tomorrow.
We have no true control overthat, like we're, I'm fully
aware.
Have you seen the stuff wherepeople are really trying to like
live forever, like?
There's these, like scientiststrying to like regenerate dna,
to like that?
They think that they've gottenlike a 50 year old and a 22 year
old.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
So there's kind of this little cult following this.
It's a family and they've beendoing this stuff and they're
having like procedures and theydon't go outside, they don't get
sunlight, they're like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
It's almost a little vampire-ish, like I thought
something was good for me to anextent well, I mean vitamin d is
do we know do we really knowlike, for example all right,
cheerios here we go I can seethe look on his face.
Hey, this is the stuff we like,right here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
No, cheerios and Kellogg were like their whole
push, that's marketing.
That's marketing is all that is, and we really believe that
cereal in the morning is reallygood for us.
It's not, it's so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
But the thing is that's just marketing the fact
that we do most of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
You thing is that's just marketing, like the fact
that our culture believes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
You ask anybody.
They know who kellogg is.
They know.
But individuals are smart.
People are stupid.
That's why they spend the money.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
People groups are so dumb like do we really know
what's good for us and what'snot?

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
because absolutely not we have no idea, but go back
to when we were kids you guys,I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
You know you're a little younger.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
But back when, like when we were kids, the food
pyramid.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
They look at that now and it's like that was pushed
by the government.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
It was.
It was pushed hard.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
They go back now and they're like that is horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I still think about it sometimes.
I'm like man my kids need to beeating more of this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
It's like wait no.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
No, I'm all for my kids need protein.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
You obviously need protein because it's energy and
it's it's gonna build you andyeah, don't eat super, I don't
care but the food pyramid was wecould come up with anything
right now and you could tell meit's this is great for you or
this is bad for you, and I canget online and find the opposite
argument for whatever, it iswell I think the biggest thing
is your heart health.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Right like that.
That's everything, and I thinkthat exercise is the best.
It's the best thing yourlongevity.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
And that's what we do the least, because it's too
hard, typically.
Yeah, we all want a quick fix.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
It is too hard, yeah, but that's the way the world's
been pushed, though.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
I mean, you look at the TikTok age, the age of all,
I think we're becoming morehealthier as a society actually,
to an extent, but I think thereis a quick fix, but that wave
is no different than what it was10 years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Like every so often, you're going to see a wave, just
like that.
We're going to freak out overeverything.
We're going to have this waveBecause that's when you were
seeing the push in Jenny Craig.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
You're seeing the push in all these different
health companies, weightWatchers, and then those
disappear.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
And then something new comes along and it's like
because keto became the big fad.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
It's marketing, there's all these things.
It's something new, it's justmoney.
It's all the money it's 100%.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Now I'm not saying as a society we shouldn't become
healthier, because we absolutelyshould.
I just think it's the same kindof fad type thing right now as
it is all the time when we losethe gold medal count in the
Olympics.
You think that's when we see it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Yep, that's when we're in a bad place which we
haven't lost yet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
So no, we're still quite a bit ahead in that,
though.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Don't we put a lot more athletes in there than
other people?
Though?
Ain't that kind of skewed alittle bit?

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I mean not by percent .
By percent is pretty close, Isit Okay yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
When you look at like the gold, like we're still
winning gold medals, like itends up being one oh correct,
yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
I'm not.
I'm not necessarily like 5%.
We're still winning more goldmedals.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Do either one of y'all remember those belts you
put around your waist?
Yeah, like shocked your abs.
They still sell those, do they?
And it was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Have you seen the new thing?

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
It made you sore, but whether it actually did
anything.
But have you seen?

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
this next thing.
It's a whole TikTok trend.
It's like the old no I rememberthe shake Shake.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
weights are out forever.
That's the dumbest thing ever.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
But I still could see more use of that than shocking
your stomach to make it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
It was like Contracting the muscles.
That's what it did.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Yeah, so you could just truly making you strong
like that's.
But even then, if you formedabs, you're not actually
stronger, you're actuallyhealthy, correctly, it just, it
just formed the shape of those,yeah.
But there's this whole.
It's kind of like the oldschool.
I don't know if you rememberseeing it in movies.
You put the belt kind of aroundyour, your butt and it it

(01:12:02):
basically shakes you and you arebasically almost like to a
dance in a way.
So now there's this thing thatyou stand on.
I've seen it that does it.
And all these people are like,oh, I'm going to get in great
shape.
And again I'm like that's.
So we know somebody that'sdoing nothing?
Who?

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
does social media?

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
And they're really big on that for some kind of
like I don't know.
They're into like natural stuffand they really say that's a
natural thing, that it doessomething to your body Do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
I know this person.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
You do know this person, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I've got to figure out who this is.
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Instagram and they're big on it.
Yeah, I'm not going to callthem out right now, because it
might work.
I don't know.
I'm just trying to think of whothis would be.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Yeah, you know who they are, but I know, but now
it's killing me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
I got to figure this out.
No, no, no, yeah, but that'sagain.
It's just one of those thingsI'm like it's a quick fix type
thing it's.
I can stay on this and be lazyshe has this natural well, it

(01:13:04):
your immune system and your body.
But that's marketing, they'realso big on like grounding,
going out barefoot and they sayand that's, that's making a big
push, the grounding sheets andall this stuff.
I don't know if you've seenthat.
It's crazy.
I'm not plugging my sheets intothe wall.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
I don't think that's kind of weird A bit much.
But but the whole groundingthing, they again it's minuscule
science.
There's not enough to truly saythis 100%, without a shadow of
a doubt is doing this?
For some people, yes, it'sdoing well, for others it's not.
So that, to me, is a hard thingto just be like.

(01:13:36):
Yeah, we absolutely put ourlife on this working.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
But that's again.
It's marketing, it's a quickfix.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
You see people who are healthy their entire life,
exercising, eating right andthen get cancer or something
like that, and then you seesomebody who eats junk and all
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
No, I agree, but just whatever you would think, if
you're healthy, you're going tobe healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
But I feel like we see that more in America than we
do in other countries.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Well, it could come back to food, like you said.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
We also aren't around other countries.
We don't know no, butpreservative-wise we're puts the
stuff in food that we do.
It's horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
There should be people going to prison for our
food issues.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Yeah, but why do we keep eating it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
We know it's bad, but that's all we have, Unless
you're going to go off-grid anddo it yourself.
Everything you buy in the storeis the exact same.
It's going to say organic.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
It's going to say this you have no idea unless you
watched it sourced.
Like I buy organic chicken fromIngles or Aldi or whatever,
there ain't no way they stillhave preservers in those.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Most of our chicken, like that, is chlorine washed
and they talk about that inother countries and they're like
no, you would go to prison forsuggesting it.
Like it's like absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
I eat a ton of deer meat and I feel like my dad.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
But that's the way you do it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
It's a wild game.
You'd have to live off that.
The best I feel is when I eatdeer meat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
So I found a lot of the organic stuff I don't really
like the taste of, and it'sprobably because I'm accustomed
to everything else I would sayyou're so used to all the other
things I mean growing up mygrandparents still would have a
garden and green beans and cornand a lot of stuff I didn't
really like the taste of.
I wanted it from the store, butit's because of that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
We're creatures of habit, just naturally, and I
think that you grow up in thisfood industry.
Do you know how hard it is tobreak that?

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
Oh, that's so hard.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Because what are you going to do?
Stop going out to eat with yourwife and your kids, right?

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Are you going is stop going out to eat with your wife
and your kids?
Right, you're gonna stop goingout to eat with?
Well, but then.
But then you also start lookingat.
Marketing tells us you got totake your wife out for dinner
and movie, but like that's theold thing, now it's like dinner
and a show or like, yeah, that'swhat you do anywhere you go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
You're not getting that like clean, healthy food,
but like a part of me too islike mcdonald's.
That's american you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
That's grassroots America you have to like.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
McDonald's to be American.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
I've been seeing a lot of stuff lately that says
the McDonald's week today is wayworse than what we ate back
then.
They've changed ingredients andadded preservatives and stuff
like that.
You guys keep talking like I've.
I don't know whether that'strue or not.
You're not that much youngerthan us.
I mean, come on McDonald's whenyou was a kid is probably
different than what it is now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
You didn't pick up on the math earlier 2010,.
He was 12.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Okay, well, that's not that big a difference.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
Yeah, I won't get you by 12 years.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
I was going to say 12 years is a long time and stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
It's not terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
But I'm saying it was the same way.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
So, in the age of how things have translated from
when you were a kid to when hewas a kid, way, different
lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure, like just, way different.
Well, like me with my kids,like I want to give them
everything I didn't get.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Were you in school at all without computers?
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
What grade.
We had a computer lab.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
We didn't have computers.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
That wasn't a thing for early elementary school.
In high school we didn't havecomputers.
But that wasn't a thing forearly elementary school.
In high school we didn't haveum computers.
We like here in brevard everykid, they still taught.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Teachers still taught a little different.
Back then, easy, I'll say it,you know I'm right.
Easy because you'll agree withthat, because, like I've been
there when the internet goes out.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Oh we can't teach.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
What do you mean?
You can't teach?

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Well there is, you can still do a lot of things,
but that's because they puteverything on the computer.
I don't know if that'snecessarily the teacher can't.
They have no material.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
I'm not saying all teachers, because there are
still some fantastic teachers,but there are a few, and you
kind of know where I'm goingwith this.
Your, your assignment's onthere, good luck.
They couldn't even have adiscussion about what the topic
is yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Also going back to the food thing, our alcohol is a
really big issue here.
100% we consume alcohol at avery high level.
I'm not part of that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I don't drink any of it, but I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
But I don't think you can say that we consume it more
than Europeans, because they doit for literally every meal.
We do it as a social, butthey're drinking wine.
I mean, most of Europe isdrinking Guinness.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
They're having Guinness with dinner.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
But we are doing it just getting hammered all the
time.
It's not a.
I'm having a drink with dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Theirs is all the time it's.
It's not a.
I'm having a drink with dinner.
There's is all the timeeveryone well like, but not to
the same.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
We said here the same reason none of us really drink
no but you get pressured hard ifyou're out with anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Oh, you go to dinner with somebody and they're
getting a drink.
You even look that funny like,oh, why don't you drink?
I just don't like, I just don'tcare, especially golf.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Oh you're golfing.
Oh you get a drink here at theturn.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Take somebody, there are so many people that only
play golf to drink.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Yeah oh, it's not, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Am crack it like just go ahead, it's, it's the whole,
but also like your thing Idon't know, like I'm in, like
I'm kind of like stuck inbetween, because, like to me,
what's american, though, is likeone of these dive bars with,
like dale arnhart in the cornerlike I love Dale Earnhardt, with
a jukebox playing.
That to me is American.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
You been watching any NASCAR lately?
No, I have not.
You gotta get back into someNASCAR and have somebody talk to
you about it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
I know I do need to get back into it.
I still hate Kyle Busch.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Hey, does anybody like Kyle Busch thrown in there?

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
I still hate college but and our education system's
in a bad place.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
It's been for the past 40 years.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
I mean it's not been great.
I think it's been bad.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
I try not to get too political.
Is this administration going tohelp our food and our education
, or are they just talking aboutit?

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
It's whatever gets the constituents fired up.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
I don't think anybody really knows yet.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Four years, you can't do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
No.
Nope, can't do it, so I thinkyou can lay some good stepping
stones, but if the next groupdoesn't follow, whether it's
Democrat or Republican, if thenext group doesn't follow, it
doesn't matter.
But have we even seen that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
No, you can't yet.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
That's what I'm saying, but I hope we get jd
vance after this I, I don't, butI want to see, regardless of
views or whatever, like I wantto see what else we're doing,
because right now, everythingit's let's do what's polarizing,
let's save money, and we'regoing to save it in all these
weird spots, obviously, allthese things.

(01:20:07):
They're like oh, we're findingthis was going towards these
things.
That stuff wasn't going, it wasgoing to people's pockets.
That's not how that works.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
That's been happening .
I mean, this is nothing new.
We look back when they came outwith the Odyssey and the Iraq
War that we were paying $2,000for a toilet seat Correct, where
was that money going?

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
No, I agree with that .
It's just.
I don't even care about talkingabout it, Just put an end to it
.
Let's just fix it Now.
I think it's corrupt to thecore, Regardless of how you vote
.
Regardless of that, I don'tlike big government because this
is the type of stuff.
They have no oversight.
They do whatever they want.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
There's no control there they put us against each
other.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Oh, that's the whole point, and obviously we all lean
one way or the other.
This fight has been happeningsince 1770.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
It has.
You know 100%, but this isAmerica.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Before our Constitution was even put in
place.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
We have so many choices on everything we do,
except who leads our country.
We get two choices.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Too much.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
That's crazy to me.
Like we're, that's crazy to me.
We're supposed to be the landof opportunities.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Well, that's what I think the United Kingdom's
parliamentary system.
You can align yourself so muchmore with a party there because
there's six of them.
You can align yourself with aparty In a two-party system.
We're always taught studying it.

(01:21:27):
If you agree with everythingyour party does, you are a bad
citizen.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Yeah, point blank.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
I don't think anybody .
If you really get down to brasstacks and go through everything
, there's no way you can agreewith it.
There are so many people thatare like, oh yeah, I agree with
it because they don't reallywant to get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
But I don't think there's any shot.
It's the better choice.
It's not that you agree witheverything of it.
Yeah, but I don't think it's abetter choice.
It's not that you agree witheverything of it, but you just
like it a little bit.
I feel like a better choice.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
It's lesser of two evils.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
Like that's how it's been for many years.
At this point, that's a goodway to put it.
I feel like I've heard thatphrase 20 years.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
I feel like I've heard it for the last 20 years.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
I can't not hear it.
Every time politics are broughtup, it's lesser to evils and
it's just like it is almighty.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
But that's a terrible thing.
I think everybody at this point, though, is so over politics.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Well, I think politics should be boring.
It should not 100%.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
It shouldn't be polarizing.
That's the thing.
But, we've made it something.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
There should be more views on the fresh prince like
reruns that night than thecorrect, the presidential.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
I love the fresh prince.
Yeah, that's, it's not the bestwhat's the best, what's the
go-to?

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
well okay, but it was fresh prince when he was a kid
oh, dude, I grew up on okay, Ican't remember when it came out,
so I was on reruns that wasn'tlive.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
That wasn't live, but like no, he grew up on reruns
hey, it's good, though fresh nofantastic show.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
It was my favorite show growing up.
I think the best, where I getthe most laughs, though to date,
still today's seinfeld I'vewatched I said we've had that
discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
I know you're a huge I'm gonna have to get back to
watching just because you saidlike five or six times.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
I mean, it's never not funny what I find hilarious,
though, really going back andlook at it now, being older,
being way more to sports now,and thinking about george
costanza working for the no,it's hilarious I'm like how, how
is that?
How do we make that?
But again, that's a show.
It was perfect for its time.
It doesn't make it now.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
No, no shot.
Well, even like the jokes theymake now, they would be canceled
for.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
But there's so many of those episodes they don't
even air.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Because, like all these jokes are too, I'm like
we've got to get over ourselves,Like lighten up.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
I don't, I'm not one that really cares about jokes
Like say whatever.
Like I don't remember it much.
I watched it a little bit as akid but and I love some good
sitcoms, so I'm going to have to.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
It's the best sitcom ever made.
Back on the old TBS, though,like they played it nonstop.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
It's still on Comedy Central all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
But I have a hard time sitting and watching a show
like that, like I'm trying towatch episode by episode by
episode, like trying to followit as like a season.
That, to me, is a show.
I don't feel like you need todo that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
No, you can just jump around and watch every show.
Is this like?

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
is this own thing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Yeah, it's awesome, like there's some storyline that
goes through the entirety of it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
There's overarching story, but there Like you've got
to watch this, to see this, toknow this.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
No, it's like you can go to season four, episode
three, right now, and you'll bejust as fine if you started
season two Like it is the bestman, it's a show about nothing
and it's hilarious, it's 100%about nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Isn't that why we watch TV and stuff?
Because we want to just donothing, just laugh.
We don't want to think.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
We don't funny.
Like scientific, like when wewatch television we go into a
state of hypnosis.
Like scientifically proven wego into a state of hypnosis when
we watch television.
So that means thatsubconsciously we are retaining
more than we think.
So like our views are comingfrom the state of hypnosis that
we're not even realizing.
So if you watch cnn or Fox 24,seven, no matter what you really
, you're getting stuff pushedinto you, you are like your

(01:25:08):
brain is like getting rewiredwithout you even knowing it and
so like when it's like when wewatch like a scary movie, like
you walk out of the room afterthe scary movie, you're kind of
like looking around the cornersbecause you're in a state of
hypnosis.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
It's the same reason these companies put millions
upon millions of dollars to havetheir product in those things.
Right, Because you'resubconsciously seeing it and
looking at it and it's like, oh,you may not like Coke or that
may not be your go-to, but yousaw Coca-Cola in the show
forever.
I'm going to go back up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Yeah, it's funny you say that because last night and
I've told you about these twonewer sitcoms One's real new,
one's a little bit newer, thatI've been watching a little bit,
one's called the Neighborhoodand one's Papa's House, and they
come on.
I think CBS and both shows lastnight in random places
mentioned Mark Cuban, shark Tank, things like that, and I'm like

(01:25:55):
now this is odd that both showsthey are pushing their thing
without you even knowing it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
I don't think there's a single modern current show
that's like truly worth watching.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
There's nothing on right now.
That just really draws me in.
I like those two shows.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
I've not found anything that just truly draws
me in.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Amazon Prime has some really good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
But see, that to me is different.
Streaming service is differentbecause those are small movies.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
I haven't watched like kept up with a show Like my
, because those are small movies.
I haven't watched like kept upwith a show Like my parents used
to say that every Tuesday.
Like on network TV, there's nota single thing that I watch
Every Tuesday.
They made sure that they gottheir food early so they could
sit down and watch Seinfeld,like they did not want to miss
that Tuesday night.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
But I feel like people did that with Seinfeld.
I feel like they did it withFriends.
I feel like remember doing itwith Home Improvement as a kid
Like Wendy's sold a thing whenyou got 3D glasses.
You remember TGIF oh 100%.
We made sure we were homewatching TGIF 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
See, I did that, even like 2012.
Oh, American Idol was one ofthose too.
I did that with.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
I think everybody did with the early seasons.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
I got out of it.
They were so funny.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
See, we did it with Survivor too, though especially
the early stuff Wipeout.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Oh, wipeout was good yeah, I forgot about.
Wipeout the Big Bang Theory.
Did you ever watch that?
I was big in that show, it waslive.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
I watched it when it was done.
I didn't watch it.
It didn't keep me enough.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
There's funny parts, but it never kept me enough.
I even watch some of thespinoff shows now that came from
it, but you don't do thatanymore.
No, you just binge watch it.
No.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Best war movie ever made.
I haven't watched a lot of warmovies, probably.
Oh, we're not war people, I'msorry.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Oh no, I watch warped .
I mean, I like them, but Ihaven't.
Yeah, that's why I was likewhat you got?
You've got one in your mindalready.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
I'm obviously a little bit more modernized.
Okay, 13 Hours, I think is ohfantastic.
I think it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Such a good movie 13 Hours is so good, but it's again
.
It's a political like it is.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
It should have never happened like that's one of
those things like so easy to notlet it happen well, also like
this isn't a movie band ofbrothers, yeah, I mean, if you
haven't watched I haven'twatched band of brothers oh my
gosh that is like I watch ittwice a year but thinking,
thinking of like 13 hours.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
What's hard is I currently have a friend who's a
contractor over in iraq and I'm,if it goes down good luck.
There's not much, but he's likethere's so many QRF, which is
their quick response.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
There are so many of these guys here, we will take
the country if it comes to it.
My favorite war movie Probablyhave to be Forrest Gump, I think
.
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
God, that's not a war movie.
No, it's a good movie.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
I like the movie.
I don't like the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Why not?
I can't watch it again.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Most people are yes or no.
There's not much in between.
I love it, but I can't watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
It doesn't seem real to me.
Oh, because it's not.
I don't take that as a realthing.
It's stories or movies thataren't like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
You want some based on a true story.
You want to at least be able tobe real, but that makes sense
though.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
I hate the sports movies that are like a little
feral basketball movie.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Oh horrible Semi-Pro.
Semi-pro is not good, that'ssuch an awful movie, though.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
I did not like Major League Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
We talked about favorite sports movies a while
back back in the winter, butpretty much most of ours are all
like true story type stuff,yeah, with the exception of like
Mighty Ducks I love MightyDucks.
I said I loved Facing theGiants, Christian-based football
movie.
I don't know if you've seen it,but it's really good.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
One of my always always, always, always go to
Remember the Titans.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
That's a good one, yeah, that was a good movie.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
I will mute you and kick you out right now.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
How do you not like that?
I just don't like it.
I don't like football, I justcan't.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Coach Carter.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
Coach Carter's good.
Not the best, but it's good.
Oh no, I don't think it's thebest seen blue chip.
It's so good, penny shack yeahit's like realistic, like it's
real.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
It feels like I mean it's second behind space jam.
I was gonna say space jam notthe lebron one.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
I want the lebron.
I think both of them are badI've not seen the lebron one
it's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
I think that's it's designed for a certain group
it's designed for a certaingroup.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Yeah, space like as a kid.
Oh, space Jam was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
But nobody watches Looney Tunes now.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
But it merged the things, but that's why they did
the second one, because it wasabout video games yeah like it
fit for the time.
Yeah, it did it wasn't my thingbecause I liked the original,
but it fit for what is importantnow.
Yeah, so that.
But that was the thing for meis Space Jam was huge when I was
a kid.
My love for basketball it was.
Looney Tunes and stuff we grewup with and it's like, yeah, of
course this is awesome.

(01:30:47):
So merging the two felt likesuch a cool thing now to try to
go back and watch it nowgraphically, it'd be so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
A lot of movies are that way.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
I think that's a lot of my issue with like the movies
just too old that my parentsgrew up on, that they're like,
oh, this is the best ever.
Like I go watch it.
I'm like you at that point,like you have to you try you
have to watch it for story, notfor anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
Like, like, just trying to get the CGI is trash.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
Like yeah, I like even.
It's hard for me to watch four,five and six star wars just
because of like the cg.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Yeah, it's so dated um the technology he's never
watched any Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
Yeah well, I have no desire to.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
No.
So the original trilogy?
Yes, it is tough because it'sjust dated technology.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
And I say that like Now for when it came out it was
ahead of its time, but you'retalking about Star Wars,
something that cannot everhappen.
You said you like movies orstuff no, no, he's talking about
sports though.
Yeah, I was only the only timewar movies.
Never started that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
But yeah, but again, though there are certain war
movies that it goes too far,like it's just too out there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
I agree and I agree with that on those type, because
it just gets crazy I likewatching old movies and seeing,
like the, the vehicles and stuffthey're driving around.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Yeah, star wars is a different thing because it it
doesn't even feel like.
I feel like Star Wars you nevergo into it thinking way beyond
its time, like oh, it's wayahead of its years because by
far, we're headed that way.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
I feel like.
I'm too far behind now to everwatch it we'll see a Death Star
up in the sky one day.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
I don't.
I don't think you can ever betoo far behind in Star Wars
because there's something aboutit.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
I think there's a lot of people that way.
Yeah, there is a lot of peoplethat way.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
I mean so my brother Brad.
He just doesn't like sci-fitype stuff.
Yeah, I've never seen.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings Just none of that
stuff has ever appealed to me.
I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
I have no desire.
That was like really putting.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
I wouldn't go around telling people that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Well, that's how I figure out who's cool and who's
not.
Me too.
And you're not Freezy, it's adifferent generation.
In my generation, you weren't acool kid when you watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
No, so that's.
I don't even think it's that.
I think it's just like, if youlike sci-fi things, you've seen
all of this.
No, I really do think, I thinksci-fi is.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
I'm not a lot older than you I'm 38.
But in middle school, highschool, the kids that watched
all this stuff were kind of thenerdy kids.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
See, that's completely opposite, for us.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Yeah, I think it does come through generations.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
See, here's the thing .
I'm only three years youngerthan you and when it came to
stuff like that, most peoplejust didn't.
You weren't talking about itthe same, but nobody cared.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
No, I don't think anybody cared, but you just saw
it.
You saw the kids who you couldtell liked it, wore their shirts
.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
No, but I think you're talking about the fanboys
.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
We had plenty of fanboys, the Comic-Con guys, you
know that kind of no, no, no so.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
I've seen Comic-Con's sick, but I'm saying that's
common.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
now, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
Right, but no, I mean I'd seen all the Star Wars,
watched all that, could talkabout it, but I wasn't the kid
sitting there.
Like I've got the LukeSkywalker figurine and I've
watched every one of the moviesand the comics and all the like.
That was not what the that wasthe true diehards.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
The casual people were just watching the movies.
I think star wars has likeexpanded with technology,
because now not only can youlike get like the comics and all
this stuff for start, but nowyou, I can go on reddit and I
can read for five hours likestar wars lore, that like you
could never do before and sowhat?

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
what's your opinion?

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
disney ruined star wars yeah, 100, don't even thank
you okay no, as long as we'reon the same page.
They have not produced.
They've produced.
Disney's produced a couple ofgood Star Wars stuff.
I thought Andor was really goodand I thought Rogue One was
really good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
But Rogue One was still bad.

Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
No Mandalorian.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
I don't like Mandalorian, I like.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
I like it because it yeah, I get that it literally is
a Star Wars Western.
I'm like that's cool, I thinkthey.
But I grew up on Westerns too,like just literally sitting
there with my uncles watching.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
I can get behind some Westerns old school Westerns.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
I loved them.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
They should decanonize 789.
Fair, they should Like thosewere the worst movies, like I
will never even think aboutwatching them again.
I think they ruined.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
I've seen all the movies.
I've seen one through six Moretimes than I can count.
I've seen seven, eight, nine,once, once.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
And I don't want to go back and watch them.
No, I'll never watch it again.
And I think they ruined Obi-WanKenobi.
That show they put out was.
I think there was potentialthere and they just did it wrong
.
No, it was garbage, it washorrific.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Like Vader doing like there was this.
This the episode where they Ican feel him checking out as we
talk and I think I'm justwatching basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
I think it's hilarious.
But no, I'm listening to nerdstalk about no.
But yeah, I agree with whatyou're saying, like I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
I feel like they made so.
But even for just like a movieseries, if you're gonna have a
big bad, it's got to be the bigbad, and I feel like they made
him weak yeah, but I thinkthat's that's in anything it
made him so weak you can't takeyour biggest of big and make
them awful.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
But also I think that it's not an unpopular opinion
to say that Disney ruined it.
I don't know if there's anyonethat says that Disney has done a
good job with Star Wars.
I don't know anyone.

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
Some of your youngest of into it like it because it
became kid friendly.
Yeah, like it was like trulyjust like that's for kids.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
If I got into it now, would I be able to like it, or
you would like it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
I would say it depends on what you get into.
Do you get into the new or theold?

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Am I that group that already has this opinion about
it that it's not going to matterPotentially?
But here's the thing there's noMarvel, no DC, no Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
He doesn't like the sci-fi stuff, so of course he's.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Somebody says that genre I'm not really yeah, so
you're not going to like itperiod.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
You're just not, but I don't, david, for you
personally, as someone I know.
Thank you, this got serious.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Are we going to have Star Wars night out here?

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
As a colleague, for you, goff, as someone that helps
you pick the range.
I just I don't want you toleave this earth without ever
watching this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
But see, I am from that period that it's the nerds.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
But knowing David though, he doesn't make it
through the first 30 minutesBecause it is like, because they
are truly telling story.
It gets slow in a couple parts.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
It does, and if you're not in it, he would check
out.
Yeah, like he would just checkout.
That's why I think you got tostart at episode one.
If you're ever going to do it,you don't start at four, you
start at one.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
Jar Jar's tough though man.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Oh dude, he's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
He's tough If.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
I have the desire to go there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Your go-to is going to be probably number one comedy
, but just know in the slimchance that you do really like
it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Say like, in the off chance you really like it.
There is so much that you willnever have to like worry about
not watching something.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Well, so I'll go and tell you because me and Will
have had this conversationprobably a hundred times about
Star Wars that man right thereis deep.
Yeah, like he's the kids whenwe were in school.
That like he's probably got alightsaber in his pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Like you're sitting there like making fun of these
kids, because like he's verydeep in it, but we've talked
about this too.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
My age, though we didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
For me, it was the same kids that played Pokemon.
We've talked about that.
Yeah, that, that was the nerdy.
Like I didn't play pokemon.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
That was that was a weird thing.
Pokemon wasn't big when I came,but to me it was that same
group.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
It came back after you, yeah, it did yeah, but that
same group was the star warsbut the pokemon dragon ball z
the yugioh.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Remember, yugioh, my age pokemon was huge.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
yeah, because that's it's when it came out.
It was like right there at thattime when I was hitting
elementary school, when it waslike the boom, and that's why it
got big.
If it would have been big whenyou hit kindergarten, it may
have been different, like that.
That's why I think it was sobig for most of my age, cause I
can remember kindergarten, first, second grade, like it ruled

(01:38:39):
the world, like for kids wise,like it was everything.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
Well, you wasn't worried about being cool then.
No, it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Of course not.
Like you don't care when you'rethat age, you don't care, you
do all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
There wasn't a Halloween that I wasn't Obi-Wan
Kenobi In my whole childhood.
Really, yeah, I thought he was.

Speaker 4 (01:38:55):
That's sad.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
Alright, you didn't experience anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Alright, tyler, what was your go to costume as a kid
at Halloween?

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Didn't have one.
I was something different everyyear.
Was you really?
Every year, I was somethingdifferent.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
I respect that.
I was a cowboy mostly.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
So I can remember when I was four I was at
preschool and a kid jumped onthe seesaw and I got a black eye
.
So that year I was a Dalmatian.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
Nice, I was 101.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
Dalmatians, because it was like I had this like for
the beard, yeah, like a cowboyhat.
That's a very old school thingit is yeah, because now you're
just buying a fake beard likenobody's going to that I know
that sense.
That was the thing back thenyeah, no, so I definitely didn't
have a.
This is what what I do I don'tthink I ever did.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Will.
If you had to guess what, doyou think Tyler's go-to costume
would have been?
What?

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
are you thinking what comes to mind?

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
He's got plenty of things he'd like to say, but
whether it's actually true,that's a whole different
ballgame.
I was thinking what could Ipicture Tyler as, as a kid, you
know, in know, halloween costumeSuperman.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
I don't think I ever did.
I picture him being a sportsfigure or something, yeah.
I was a baseball player oneyear I was a basketball player.
Yeah.
I don't think I ever didbasketball, but I did do sports
characters a lot yeah but I'malso remembering, like when I
was a kid, chipper Jones waschipper jones was the heat man
like, if you lived in this arealike you, like chipper and
andrew jones, like it's just theway it was you didn't have a

(01:40:28):
choice.
At one point, I had two gerbils.
One was named chipper and theother was andrew.
Yeah, that's just, it's whatyou did, mainly because my
parents wouldn't let me have adog yeah, wow, that's I blame
mom for that as a whole thing.
Childhood trauma we won't getinto that.
Brad will listen to this andhe'll know all about what I'm
talking about you go to schooland you show up and the dog

(01:40:50):
randomly ran away.
That day.
It's one of those things so yeah, we'll not get into the trauma
of my childhood, so you had alot of dogs run away.

Speaker 4 (01:40:59):
Or you just didn't have any dogs.
No, we didn't get many.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
It was a hardcore fight to try to get an animal
Gotcha and we weren't cat people, so it was going to have to be
a dog, you're still not a catperson.
Cats are of the devil.
There is no such thing as agood cat.
I love animals.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
But I can't stand the hair and stuff that comes off
animals.
It drives me nuts.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
I'm allergic, so dad's that way.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Dad likes animals but he can't like our dogs and cats
.
Love them, but like they stayoutside, like they're not inside
, like they might come inoccasionally but not like not
living inside and haireverywhere I just can't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
We've actually talked about getting a cat at the
baseball field, um a pet catthat we have, that's like a barn
cat like you're just takingcare of the mice.
You're taking care of, like,all the little things that make
sense yeah, um, that area overthere is overrun with mice,
there's so many.
Our field backs up to the FFAfarm Correct, and that's where
they're all coming from.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
You can get a cat or a snake Either one.

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
I'm out on snakes man , I'm like way out.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
So snakes are a?
No, I don't like snakes either.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
No, I know not picking it up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
I'm not picking it up .
I've never run so fast in mylife.
I do not like them.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
And I see them all the time in Pisgah.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Oh yeah, I mean, and you said but you're mountain
biking constantly yeah, so yeah,I'm sure you see plenty.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
Oh, it's terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
Think about all the ones you don't see I know.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
He's like I've already thought about it.
I have nightmares.
There's places like in DuPont,like lots of rocks, oh, 100%,
and like there'll just be likesunbathing on the rocks when
we're like.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Copperheads, rattlesnakes like huge up there,
there's some big ones too.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
Big ones.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
And I also don't do bears I don't do bears, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
You're in the wrong place but we have black bears
those little different.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
The man that hates snakes and black bears is
mountain biking through all theforest pedal faster maybe you
just can't be the slowest,that's all the matters.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
You don't have to be the fastest, can be the slowest
um, and right now I'm not veryfast, so um speaking of that,
did you get your brakes fixed?
We've talked about this likethree times.
You've yet to get them.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
I've bit the bullet and I've dropped off at the shop
.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
Finally, saturday okay, I was trying to do it
myself because you had talkedabout it and you, one day you
came out here and you're like,yeah, I'm gonna take the shop.
And I never heard about it.
And then again it was like Igotta take my, I gotta take my
bike this time of year is justunreal well, you're starting to
really get back into riding now,though like the weather, the
weather is great well, because,like I was going to spend all
the time on the weekends fixingit right, but now it's like wait

(01:43:27):
a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
The only times I have to ride are on the weekends I
can't do both.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
I can't fix it and ride like you only want my lack
of I mean you don't need brakesgoing uphill, just the downhill
part yeah, but he's doing a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
He's doing a lot of downhill stuff okay, that might
be a little tough it's onlydownhill, like you do the climb
right, like you only do it forthe downhill.
And some of the stuff in pisgahis legit I have no desire for
that I think it'd be a blast.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
I'd probably kill myself.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
I've done I did it and got a concussion.
I was like I'm out I'm done.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
It's really fun, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
is it pretty fast?
Are you kind of taking yourtime and what?
It depends on what you want todo.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
It's so great about mountain biking is you.
Can you go as fast as you canwith like your level of
experience?
So, like when I first started,like the first well, I did a lot
as a kid, but when I really gotback into it, when I moved back
here the first time I went,which had been years in between
I felt like I was flying downthis mountain, like I felt, like

(01:44:20):
I was and people are just goingby like you're standing still,
and then I do the same trailagain like a year later and I
beat that time by like 12minutes and I'm like I was going
like snail speed down this andso it's
like wherever you're at.
That's what.
That's why mountain biking isso great.
It's because it's alwaysenjoyable for all like.
There's no like differencebetween the pro guy and me.
We're all having the sameexperience.

(01:44:42):
Because I'm going as fast as Ipossibly can.
It just happens to be slowerthan him.
So mountain biking is greatlike that.
And I also think it's the bestform of cardio I've ever found.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
It's easy on my back and it's easy on my knees.
Yeah, I agree with that.
As far as biking, we did a lotof biking when we lived over in.

Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
Shelby A lot flatter.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
But yeah, cardio-wise , wise because but you can go
forever.
Yeah, like like the flats outthere we were doing road biking
a little bit different, but Imean, I rode by two and it's
awesome.
We do 50 miles and it's not.
That's not much, no, like it'slike that's just going out for a
cruise.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
I can bike from here to my parents house, which is in
etowah, or horseshoe, and I cando it there and back.
I could never run that gosh Icouldn't even get halfway no,
but run.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
But running so much more pounding on your body, yeah
, it's a very different.

Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
That's why I think biking is great.
You get your heart rate up, youcan get in all zones and well
mountain biking, the downhillwould have to be a blast.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
It's so make you want to do the uphill.

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
Well, I like the uphill, because it's a good
workout and I know I'm gettingfit from that.
So I was gonna say, though,like when?

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
but when you're riding, though, even like road
bike, I didn't do much mountainbiking.
Like I said, buddy of mine tookme to the whitewater center in
charlotte, took me on a course.
I was had no business.
Yeah, you gotta work into itslowly and it was my first time
going and come over a crest.
It turns.
Didn't know it turned.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
I hit a tree, so I mean literally like concussed,
like I was I was bad for a fewdays and it sucked, but so that
for me I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
It's all like when you're getting confidence you
feel like you can go faster thanyou can, but the climb and
biking it's not that.
When you're really in it, it'snot that bad.

Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
It also can be fun.
It's super technical, you haveto be really good at it and it's
a challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
See, mountain biking is so different than road biking
.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
Those don't even feel like the same thing
Realistically, they don't, it'sfunny because when I was a
teenager, I was always into BMXtrick bikes.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
I raced BMX, did you?

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
Yeah, that's what I always enjoyed, yeah, this kid's
such a nerd Raced BMX Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
I like BMX Now Star.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Wars?
I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
I was in the band.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
No, but so your age, though, wait, wait wait, what
did you play in the band?

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
I don't want to talk about it.
No, no, no, no you introducedit Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
We didn't even pry this out.
I know you introduced it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
Trumpet clarinet Like violin Triangle Kazoo, were you
the kazoo man.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
No, I wasn't.
Were musical growing up likebluegrass, like my family was a
bluegrass band growing up listen, I like bluegrass, so you're
not gonna hurt my feelings, um,but I grew up playing piano.
Uh, played at a church like Iwas the piano guy why, are you?

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
I got no problem with it.
No, I'm worried about piano.
Like piano is such a good no itis I still play?

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
yeah, it's fantastic, um, but however my mom you know
, being from musical family, uhlike you have to be in the band
I get that okay, what do youwant to play?
I was like well, I don't, Ican't be an orchestra, so I
can't play the violin.
So okay, uh, I had played thetrumpet, okay, and then they

(01:47:40):
graduated me up to baritone okayand, uh, my, my last year doing
it.
We were weak in the tubasection.

Speaker 4 (01:47:50):
So you went to tuba.

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
And when I was growing up, I was the runt of
the guru.
I was always the smallest, thetiniest, and so I had this huge
tuba in my lap, and I would havebruises on my thighs.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
I want to see a picture of this tuba.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
He was in here with a tuba, but I had to give it up
because I finally had aconversation with my mother.
There was a band concert thesame night as a basketball game.
Oh, a can-do in both and I waslike she's like well, I'm
playing basketball tonight, Mom,I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
You broke your mom's heart right then.

Speaker 3 (01:48:23):
You know you did because that was being music is
such a big thing in her life, somuch so that she didn't even
make my two younger brothers doit.
Really, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
I think a lot of parents are that way, so they're
grateful.

Speaker 4 (01:48:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
Maybe it depends if they got into music later.
No, they're not and they'reforever indebted.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Gotcha, yeah, gotcha, you use that.
I had time.
I was the guinea pig for bandAll right.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
I could see that I'm not getting made fun of but I
think, as the first kid, you'rethe guinea pig for everything.
Yeah, I was like, whatever itmay be, you're, you're.
We're learning the playbookafter the first one.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
You know I try to let my kids do anything they want,
but sports are more appealing tome so of course I push those a
little more.
But I try to be the same waywith, you know, music, which I
play drums, guitar, a little bitlike that, but not to the same
extent that I enjoy sports.
So as parents, I think a lot oftimes we do push our kids to
stuff we like, but it's notalways good, like you said, like
you finally had to say so yeah,that's what I want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
I try that, but at the same time, like I know my
oldest one, sports is not hislove.
Yeah, he likes games, so likeit's easy at this age, yeah, but
he's not one.
I feel like I'm going to beable to easily push into
anything and I don't want to.
I can tell that's not his thing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
He enjoys basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
It's his favorite, by far his favorite sport.
It's not really an argumentbetween my wife, but it's like
we've got to work with him.
He just doesn't want that.
I want to help him and want himto get better, but that's not
his same drive the same way.
When.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:50:01):
I was outside shooting basketball, whether my
dad was or not.
I was going to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:06):
He just doesn't have that same feel.
You see, a lot in sportsParents kind of get in between
Kids that like it but don't loveit.
They really push hard and itcan lead to a lot of issues.
100%, 100%.
I was similar to you withbaseball.
I'm forever thankful my dadnever my dad was a pro guy and

(01:50:28):
he never.
He's never yelled at me aboutathletics ever.
Never got onto me right likeand I had some bad moments and
of course, he never once raisedhis voice.
He never even like told me likeI was doing a bad job, like and
I'm like forever grateful forthat because it didn't ruin the
sport for me, like I loved it Imean, it shows in your
personality.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
You were never told no, but you know yeah well when
you're this good at everything.
Okay, no hang on, hang on,let's, let's, let's revisit last
night right over there swinginga golf club.
What was this when you're sogood at everything?

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
listen, it's in the tank somewhere that's just
untapped at everything.
Listen it's in the tanksomewhere that's just untapped.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
So I've seen it.
It's in the tank, but it ain'tthere right now.
No, but it was it's in such aweird?
So you two weeks ago was oh mygosh, I don't think he'll ever
play again.
I mean, there was a momentwhere Now I've been with David
when he feels like he's bad, buthe's not been to that level of
edge where you were that day.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
No, because I just quit playing for a while and put
it up and don't swing a cluband then eventually I go yeah, I
might want to swing a club, Inever rage and throw things.
Oh, I've threw some clubs.

Speaker 3 (01:51:37):
I've never thrown a hat or a helmet or a bat,
nothing.
It's this internal fire.
I just can't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
It's this rage that if we could all see it, maybe if
you threw more clubs, thenyou'd be able to keep playing.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
Maybe that's what it is.
You got to get it out.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Maybe, this thing get really mad and just come find
one of these.

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
I know Throw one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
I know Like is the one.
He just kind of smacks it onthe ground real hard.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
It's just a quick hope it doesn't break, yeah,
yeah yeah, I don't really throwthem very far, it's kind of just
that quick hey, yeah, if youneed to practice golf, we got
four-year golf.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Come to that, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
It's true, that's where you learn which, by the
way, I think my clubs will behere tomorrow I saw your shift
and mine didn't, so happy.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Oh, they're coming to my house, I'll come get them.
You may not find them untilmine show up.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
I will know that they're there because I've
checked it like 15 times todayit's like what clubs?

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
No, Honestly, the thing I'm most excited about is
my new wedges.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
There's something about wedges that intrigue me so
much.
I love them.
I'm really excited about thoseand I don't really know why I'm
so intrigued by them, but I am.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
I love wedges, but usually from like Bojangles or
somewhere.
I was going to say KFC wedgesor that's my kind of wedges,
aren't they?

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
We hadn't talked about food.
It had to come into play at onepoint.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
I know I'm not as hungry tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
I ate a bunch, so it's already after midnight Just
letting you all know it isthese go so late.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
Barely, just barely like I can see you over there,
like crashing.
This is what happens when weall play cod.
That's very true.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
No, but what?
What's even worse, though, isthe late nights out here yeah
because it'll be like 1 am.
It's like I just turn thelights back on, nobody's gonna
complain, it's fine.
And and you're like you'veplayed every closest to the pin
and you're like, holy crap, it's3am when did that happen?
But yeah, Will's a little bitof a lightweight when it comes

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to staying up late.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
I value sleep you get up at the crack of dawn you get
up at the crack of dawn and youhave to.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
Well, but he also has a job he has to be up for at a
certain time.
We don't really.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
It's a little different loose term there, if
we have to do or not well, soit's not like you got to be up
every single day.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
It's 6 30 no it's like it's.
It's a little more leniency toan extent.
I just obviously gotta getstuff done.

Speaker 3 (01:53:59):
It's different on as soon as those kids walk in the
door, like I cannot oh yeah, youcan't take any time.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
I can't slow play my day like it is like 100 full
throttle from like 100 there waseven we had.

Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
I had an issue today before the bell rang that I was
already gotta be the worst.

Speaker 1 (01:54:15):
One right administration, that's gotta be
the worst time I'm walking to myclassroom from my truck and
already it started like Ihaven't even, like I just
finished coffee.
Well, good thing you got that,I would say.

Speaker 3 (01:54:27):
At least you finished coffee I don't even think it
like has hit my digestiveprobably not, probably not, and
I walk in and there's just I'mlike, are we really?

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
it is 7 40 but not only that guys, it's tuesday,
like we got a lot of the weekleft, like chill, like my
favorite thing I tell mystudents is like do, do you
think I want to do this?

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
Of course, not Do I want to deal with this?
Because they get mad at me ifI'm like, all right, we got to
go and I'm like, do you think Iwant to walk up there?

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
I'd rather not Like if y'all would just act straight
.
I wouldn't have to worry aboutit.

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
I wish that I showed up like 10 minutes not to see
this, yeah but at the same timeyou're sitting there thinking
I'm glad I wasn't here.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
10 minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
But you know, high school student, they don't 100.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
No, no, no, that's that, but there's no thought
process behind it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
No their future is friday and yeah, and whatever
happened to that moment, theirfuture is three.

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
Yeah, I know like waiting for that bell to ring so
I can get home and play videogames, like that's what most of
those kids' future is.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
It's all they care about.
I love it, but there are somedays.
Some days are worse than others.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
There's been a few days like I'll get a text and
it's like it's been a day.

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
And I'm like yeah, I've been hitting golf balls.
It's not as bad.
We're appreciative thatsomebody like you is trying to
shape the next generation.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
Appreciative of teachers.
What was that?

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
whale.
I don't know about somebodylike him.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
That's a little different.

Speaker 3 (01:55:48):
I don't know what we're making my classroom
management out to be like.

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
I'm not worried about your classroom management, it's
just you don't have to alsogive your true personality in
your classroom.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
Are you showing them Star Wars?

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
No, Okay, good, gosh, you should Teach the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
I'm so glad you're not got Star Wars going in there
.

Speaker 1 (01:56:06):
No, so this age, though, they could be the
biggest into Star Wars, likemore than you'd ever know, and
you wouldn't even know it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:16):
Well, actually I do show clips because there is
parallels government-wise,because I teach government.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Well, yeah, 100%, because there's so many things
within Star Wars.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
I actually took a class in college because I
studied political science.
I took a class that was calledStar Wars and it was a political
science elective class.

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
I would have showed up to that class.
I didn't show up to a lot ofclasses, I just showed up to
that class.

Speaker 3 (01:56:33):
It was an elective course.
It wasn't part of the corecurriculum, but you and I
thought that's a bit much.

Speaker 2 (01:56:41):
I have one question were there any girls in this
class?

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
yes okay you had to think of me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
No, no, no there's, it's probably not the ones that
I was going for.
Okay, I'm not very sure youknow what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:56:53):
Like they're very insightful.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
I don't mean that mean it's just the stigma of the
girls that are into.
That is very different, I meanhe's not denying it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
No, no, he agreed with you.

Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
He agreed with it, 100% yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
I wasn't there, but I feel like I can picture who it
was Like the type of people inthat class Like I could see it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:14):
Oh, yes, and it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
It was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
It was awesome I wouldn't have it any other way.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
That's how it should be yeah, I think I'm gonna put
that on the back burner for alittle bit longer now no, so to
me, if you were into any type ofsci-fi, you you would get into
it, because it's everything elsefeels like it built off of
something star wars, yeah like.
I don't like star trek thoughyou're one of the other, though

(01:57:41):
I don't feel like you can likeboth.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
Yeah, I agree I don't really know what either is or
so you could tell me the samething.

Speaker 1 (01:57:47):
I wouldn't know but I feel, but I feel.
The difference in that, though,is star wars movies, star trek
is tv let's say star trek.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
Is that a spock or whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
yeah, okay, so I kind of know a slight little bit but
that was tv, like I feel likeit was easier to follow.
Yeah, because Because it wasjust readily available, the
other wasn't.
But again, like I said, mybrother Brad, he is not into
anything like that, he doesn'tcare for the Marvel stuff, no,
but that's the perfect exampleof what I'm thinking of.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
It's so weird.
I was the same way growing upStar Wars, the Marvel stuff, all
was the same way growing upstar wars, the marvel stuff, all
that was kind of the nerdsthey've done that.
But man wrestling was cool, wewatched that I watched wwe like
that age though, and brad's thesame age.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
That age was very different.
Like wrestling was a huge, butwhy was?

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
that for the cool kids.
But we thought this other itwasn't, it shouldn't have been.
It was it's all comic-con.

Speaker 1 (01:58:38):
You thought it wasn't yeah, because I tell brad that
too, like those, those guys thatyou see now that still think
they're super cool, which Bradis not in it.
So the show we went to mostrecently over in Asheville the
age of Brad, but the guys thatare the diehard fully in it,
they still live in mom'sbasement.

(01:58:58):
It's a different type of thing,but no, I mean Brad's a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:59:05):
Maybe it depends on what level you get in.
Maybe that's what makes adifference.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
Also, brad still loves old wrestling.
He tells me all the time I'mwatching Raw from 1995.
I mean, he's literally watchingstuff from way back then.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
But it is so funny that you said that's old
wrestling from 1995.

Speaker 4 (01:59:23):
That sounds so weird to me.
I know it is but it doesn'tseem like it should be.

Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
That's 30 years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
I'm 38, so I'm eight years old.
I was watching, probably thatwrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
No, I agree, but still that's old WWF.
Yeah, 100%, World WildlifeFederation.
I can remember the Panda logowhen it came out.
They're like.
You have to change this.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
How did it go that many years, though?
That's a whole other topic.
We ain't got time for that whenone got more popular than the
other.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
they're like nope, can't do it.
I guess Started gettingnotoriety pulling it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Did somebody start calling the World Wildlife
Federation going?
Is this the WWF?

Speaker 3 (01:59:55):
How dare you have Hulk Hogan or somebody doing
this and they're like sir, we'resaving pandas.

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
What do you mean, Like this is not the same thing
You're wanting to call Vince,not us.

Speaker 4 (02:00:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
I haven't watched wrestling in years.
I think I'd rather watch theold than the new.

Speaker 4 (02:00:16):
but I don't even know what it's like anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:00:18):
I don't either.
The new, like going to shows,is still fun.

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
I.
The new going to shows is stillfun.

Speaker 4 (02:00:24):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
But the new to me, it's the same way with all
sports.
I don't feel that that to me,is not a sport, but there's so
much athleticism.
It's the same way of.
It's so much more over the topthan what it was Like when Brad
was watching as a kid.
It was much more slowed down.
It was much more you know themoves were very simple.

Speaker 2 (02:00:44):
It was characters, though, with your stone cold and
your rocks.

Speaker 1 (02:00:47):
Yeah, I mean so there's characters now, but I
don't feel like they're as trulyin-depth.
There's some that are a lot,that aren't.

Speaker 2 (02:00:55):
Will's getting sleepy over there I am.

Speaker 1 (02:00:57):
Yeah, I know what time it is.
Yeah, our lights went off.
Well, I will say thanks to Willfor coming on, because it's
been fun.
It has been fun this has beenawesome the fact that we got to
talk about Star Wars.
I feel like I've succeeded.
It was great.

Speaker 3 (02:01:10):
We said before or during the beginning of the show
, your views are going to go upand we're reaching a different
audience.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
But I feel like there's going to be a lot of
downloads from a certain IPaddress and it's going to be
yours, it's going to be yours.
I mean it's going to be allever gets me back on here.
I mean that's really like well,listen, you have an open invite
.
Like you're welcome anytime,like I think it was playing.

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
It was a lot of fun, so I'll take success of the
podcast now for good for goodgotcha gotcha, just like I'll
take success of the range forgood enough fair enough, but the
failures of both do fall upontheir shoulders.

Speaker 2 (02:01:42):
Absolutely Gotcha, I understand, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (02:01:45):
Yeah, I feel like that's fair.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
Yeah, I mean I'll agree to that.
You know, I was sitting herethinking like the downloads are
going to go up and we're havingfun, and then we got into Star
Wars stuff and I went phew.

Speaker 3 (02:01:55):
Yeah.
There goes that I thought itwas some.

Speaker 1 (02:01:59):
That's a minority group.
We know that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:02):
But that's the group.
If you get them, they're lockedup forever.
Oh, you get in them, they'llbuild you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:06):
We'll have to be doing a Star Wars segment for 20
minutes.
We're going to have a separatepodcast.

Speaker 3 (02:02:09):
Tempt me with a good time.
I know seriously.
I bring stuff out of thearchives that you guys don't
even know about.

Speaker 2 (02:02:19):
We're just going.

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
I'll invite Dave and he's like, yep, still haven't
watched it, that's all.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
he's going to come in and say If you guys leave my
opinion, let me know.
I'll just be over here watchingTV.

Speaker 3 (02:02:29):
Have you seen?
And I have to leave after this.
I literally.

Speaker 1 (02:02:32):
Yeah, you got an early morning I can feel the sun
rising.

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
It's not that late, jeez.

Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
God, you're such an old man.
After we've talked about howold we are, you're the old man.

Speaker 3 (02:02:45):
There's this podcast I listen to.
It's called the Ryan RosilloPodcast.
Yep, he used to be an ESPNanalyst.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
We'll say I know the name, but I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
He does sports podcasts now.
Yeah, it's really really good.
I think it's awesome.
At the end of every episode hedoes a 25 to 30-minute segment
of life advice, and so what itis is listeners submit questions
like life advice questions, andI sometimes, if I don't like
the guest he has on, I'll justskip.

Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
Just to that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:16):
It is so funny and it's like generally pretty good
advice and I just laugh reallyhard and I hope that this
podcast can get to a point wherewe have viewers from where was,
like australia sending in uh,listen we.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
We have listeners in the philippines.
I was gonna say random placeswas argentina.

Speaker 3 (02:03:36):
I don't know how we have an argentina.

Speaker 1 (02:03:37):
Yeah, that's what I thought uh, vietnam, there's a
couple like netherlands likethere's some weird like out
there that I'm like cool, wecare about you too.
100%, come to 4U Golf.
I wonder are they listening toit translated, because that's
got to be difficult.

Speaker 2 (02:03:52):
If there is, I want to hear that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:53):
Me too.
I don't, because I'm not goingto understand it.
I don't care, I still want tofind us on.

Speaker 1 (02:03:57):
Top Tracer.
Top Tracer yep on the app or onthe website or on there.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
Yeah, social media.

Speaker 1 (02:04:04):
Listen, only the only and I say only public Top
Tracer range in Western NorthCarolina Period, like there's no
, nobody else.
We're holding on to that.
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, but againreal quick Want to say thanks to
Will for being on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:04:25):
self-invite hey, just so you know, I've been here for
20 episodes.
I've not once got a thanks foryou.
You will never get one.

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
I told you I'm special, apparently, but the
thing is like we got will onhere.
We didn't talk baseball at allno, we didn't that is odd.

Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
We just well baseball season's kind of well, it's so
early especially for probaseball.

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
Like we're, we'll get into baseball 100%, so
obviously we're gonna have Willback plenty of times.
We've got a few other people wewanna have gotta get Paul.
We may get a fourth setup justto have both.
I mean that could be fun too.
That would be fun.
I don't know how I'm gonna editthat, but it's gonna be.
Honestly, when you have Paul onhere, I may just come to say
you just want to be here andwatch a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:05:05):
No, his storytelling is like next level.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
Phenomenal yes, it's next level, I agree, I'm just
going to sit back and listen tothe stories.

Speaker 3 (02:05:11):
It's unbelievable when we would ride in the buses
with him.

Speaker 1 (02:05:14):
Oh, my gosh the stories.
There's so many stories.

Speaker 3 (02:05:17):
I would sit up front and just be like asking him
stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:05:19):
please tell me more you feel like a child, I know,
and you're just like give memore info, but he knows
everybody and has beeneverywhere he does and he's like
the rule of three with Paul, heknows everyone in the world.
The rule of three.
I fully believe that withinthree people like we could
connect almost everyone 100% soyeah, again thanks to Will for
being on here.
Please go home, get some sleep.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
Go home, get to bed.
We're going to be up for awhile.
Take care of the children inthe morning.

Speaker 1 (02:05:43):
Yeah, children, his coffee and his starting his
truck.
I don't know, he's got nothingelse.

Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
No, his children at school.

Speaker 1 (02:05:52):
He's not taking care of them, all right, but I will
say thanks everybody for joiningus again and we will see you
next week, yep.
Thanks everybody for joining usagain and we will see you next

(02:06:15):
week, yep, thanks everybody.

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