The Digital Disconnect: Life in a Fast-Paced World

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome back to another podcast here with Tyler
and David.
Once again, we're without ourcompanion tonight.
Will is traveling with baseball, so we're without him for the
evening.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, I expect him to get the message from his mom
tomorrow about him not being onhere with us.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, I'm not sure if it's going to be a good message
or a bad message, because shemay just say, well, it sucked
without you.
Or she may say how dare youmiss?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
So I'm not really sure which way it's going to go.
Who's she going to be mad at?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's a good point, I which way is going to go?
Who's she going to be mad at?
Yeah, that's a good point.
I feel we will be the ones introuble, not him, I mean, he's
never in trouble.
So you know, Will's mom alwayslooking out for him yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
But Is he a mama's boy?
How are most people, most guys,are Probably so.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's just kind of happens, sure, yeah, exactly
food for thought, I guess.
But welcome back everybody.
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(01:33):
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Speaker 1 (01:37):
No, everything's getting green, like what?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
You're starting to see the trees.
They're starting to green again.
The plants You're starting tosee the plants are getting.
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plant.
No, it's a plant.

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mode.
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Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, we've got the closest to the pin finishing up
tomorrow, I guess it is.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
So our second one of the year.
We started back April 1st, sothis one is the second person to
potentially win $200.
I saw it was really close.
It's a 120-yard shot andcurrently nine inches.
Nine inches, that's awesome.
So one more day to beat nineinches and that's a very close
shot.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, so if you want a shot at it, it's going to come
out tomorrow, it's no fee toenter.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Basically buy a basket.
You're already going to anywaysif you're here.
So why not enter into the closeof the pit?
Why not enter into the close ofthe pit?
I mean you could win 50 bucksjust for beating nine inches.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
But we have a new one .
Starting, get a hole-in-one.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, 200 for a hole-in-one, but then another
one will be starting here in acouple days and it's actually
going to be the longest onewe've ever done.
I was going to say, don't makeit too easy, no, no, no, this
one's actually going to be 174yards, so it's going to be a

(03:29):
little bit tough, but it's a.
It's a really cool hole, soit's gonna be a lot of fun, and
we'll again run that for twomore weeks and then we'll switch
over to another one.
So, like I said, always evenjust something small, there's
always something happening.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yep, you know, right now we're sitting here at For
you Golf and we got thebasketball game on a hockey game
and we was talking a fewminutes ago.
Now I kind of get into hockey alittle bit at stanley cup and
but it's weird watching it and Iwas telling you how I watch
hockey and I see kind of theplays in the movie and all this,
but there's so many times Idon't know where the puck is.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
watching a hockey game I mean I do right now,
because they're showing aslow-mo replay so I can see it
when I slow it down but yeah,when it's shots on goal
constantly and there's fivepeople standing in front of the
net, I know if they score,because the announcers say, hey,
they scored, and the lights aregoing off.
The announcers are sittingthere calling it and they're
going.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
yeah, he shoots here and he pucks here and moves
there, and I'm like I need tosee a replay and they'll be like
oh, it bounced off the bowl andbounced off his leg, and then
he just so-and-so put it in, andso you've never been to any
hockey game, right?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
not in person, though .
Okay to me it's easier.
In person.
You can keep up with the fuckyeah yeah, which I've never.
I've never been to nhl likeI've always been to like smaller
, smaller leagues.
But because we used to have oneover in ashville, um, ashville
smoke, I think it was so I'dwent to that.
We used to have one over inAsheville Asheville Smoke, I
think it was so we went to therea bunch.
you know, growing up youth groupstuff Like we'd take trips over

(04:48):
there and to me it was alwayseasier in person, like you could
see just kind of what's goingon.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think it'd be fun.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, I mean, hockey games are fun.
It's a lot of energy.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I don't know what's really happening, but I don't
know what's really happening,but I couldn't tell you like
this is why this happened orthis is what they're doing.
Yeah, I couldn't tell you.
I'm learning as I see playersdo things that are smart.
The other night I saw I thinkit was the Stars game.
I was watching how they won.
Somebody goes to the middle andthey shoot the puck to him and

(05:21):
he kind of just angles his stickso it bounces off of his stick.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I was like, oh, oh, that's pretty good, he didn't
have to do anything, he justlaid it out there.
He got a goal even then it's,you know we were talking, you
made this comment before we gotstarted here.
It's amazing how well they cancontrol such a small, yeah, item
.
You know the puck it's.
I don't know the dimensions,but especially when it's flat, I
mean, it's what an inch and ahalf tall.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's pretty small, yeah, and they control it so
well, and I made the comment andI will 100% stand by this I
couldn't do that on dry land.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
No, and they're doing it on skates.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
And you're doing it on ice.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, we know you can't skate either, so you
couldn't skate without hockey.
And you can't play hockeywithout skates.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
No, so you couldn't skate without hockey, and you
can't play hockey without skates.
No, I have no need to be onskates, like the only thing I
could potentially do if theytaught me would be goalie,
because I don't have to movemuch I think I saw you on skates
one time.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, I used to skate a bunch when I was a kid, and
that was no.
This was as you.
What was it?
College, probably, yeah, when?

Speaker 1 (06:17):
you were on skates.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yep, uh, I mean I can skate around.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
I think you did better than my sister did, if I
remember she flipped over a walllike that's, that's, it's not
hard to do better than that soso she was skating she just
couldn't stop.
I have horrible ankles, likesports wise I have destroyed my
ankles forever.
So on skates like I don't feelcomfortable, like I about it
feels comfortable, got you so Ican move myself.
There's no stopping.
I stop when I get to somethingand I catch myself.

(06:50):
But even in moving I'm not justa graceful person doing it, I
can get around, I can kind ofmake the turn in the loop.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
You're like a baby deer just trying to learn to
walk.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm less shaky than that, but it's not by much.
That's not a strong suit, I can100% guarantee you that.
But we used to have a skatingrink over in Hendersonville
years and years ago Actually, Idon't even think it closed that
long ago, but nobody had went toit for many years and we used
to go do that some and I meanagain, I could get around, I was
fine, fine.

(07:20):
But I don't feel.
Don't feel super athletic orsuper just in control on wheels,
like being on wheels.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's a.
You know, we went a lot when Iwas in middle school I feel like
somewhere around there and Igot to skate pretty good and I'm
no great skater.
But what's crazy is it's thegeneration older than us, that's
the skaters, the disco theroller disco.
And they can skate backwardsand sideways.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
And every now and then on Facebook like a real pop
up and it's somebody doingsomething.
I'm like you're too young to dothat.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Like why are you now doing that?
Like your mom skate?
Oh, mom can skate, yeah, butagain it's that age.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's like that's what they grew up doing, like the
the roller rink was like a everyweekend type deal.
That's, yeah, you know theirbowling alley or their you know
what.
What would it be now?
Like what's the thing now?
Um says bowling.
Bowling is not as popular.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
No, and that's when I was probably high school age,
we had bowling alleys we'd go to, but we went there a lot and
they had pool tables Right.
So I played pool a lot Right.
So I was decent at pool, Icould bowl a little bit, but I
don't know what they do now.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Well, because that's like when I was in high school,
living over in Shelby my senioryear, there was a really nice
bowling alley and movie theaterarcade thing down in gaffney, so
20 minutes down the road, youknow, down into south carolina.
So we'd go bowling a lot and Iactually got decent like there
for a bit, like I could get near200 pretty much all the time.

(09:00):
So I don't know much about this.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't know how to score.
300 is the highest you can get.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, I knew that was the highest, so I could do
decent, especially for somebodythat didn't grow up doing
anything like that.
But a friend of mine at thetime, I mean he is like
averaging 250.
I mean he's like phenomenal.
But he'd be the one like, no,we can't go on that lane because
they don't oil it or whateverwell enough Like we need to go

(09:26):
down here, so he'd do all thisstuff.
I'm like, what the heck are youtalking about?
Like I know, throw it at thosethings standing down there.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I got, but he'd always be teaching me like
here's how you spin it, like thecorrect way to spin them,
because I could spin them butnot like the way that you're
actually supposed to.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, I could get a strike occasionally, but I had
no spin to it, it was just.
Just throw it hard down thereand hope that it goes just right
.
You know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
But we had a bowling alley here forever.
I mean it just closed in thelast few years, which?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
post-COVID a lot of stuff did Not much.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
It was better, I'll say.
I say that it's better when itwas, when I was younger, but
maybe I just overlooked more,cause I didn't know what was
going on there.
Rough place.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, yeah, are we going to bring it back?
We can go for you, no no or not.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Maybe mini bowling for you.
Mini bowling, the mini, themini lanes are pretty cool.
When we went to we went to thebeach hurricane sent us out so
they had it at great wolf and,like the kids love that, but
it's easier for the kids that'swhat makes sense too, though.
Like the pins are picked up bystring.
Like it's not like they have tosit just right in this, or they

(10:36):
have, if you put them down andshake and they fall like it's?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
it's kind of like an arcade version of bowling.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I guess you'd say oh yeah, it's definitely way
simpler.
Everything about it is there'sno I'm not going to say no skill
, because there's still sometype of skill in it.
You still have to put it in theright spots to get more pins,
but it's not the same as regularbowling the ball.
To me, maybe heavier.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's a little bit bigger than a softball.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I was thinking that's what it feels like, a little
bit bigger.
But yeah, it's that kind offeel because like you're palming
this hard little ball, throwingit down this lane.
So yes, I do think it does feela little bit like skeeball.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I could play some skeeball I was gonna say I love
some skeeball which it's such asimple man amanda, that's her
favorite.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Skeeball is her like she loves why do we love it?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
it's not anything great.
It's fun.
It is fun, but it's justthrowing a ball and putting it
in some holes In arcade half thestuff that you like to play in
arcade is not.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I mean, think about it.
We love to play littlebasketball games in the hoops.
It's a blast.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Why though?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I've always had a basketball game in my life, are
we?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
just trying to get the high score?
Are we just trying to get thehigh score?
Is that all?

Speaker 1 (11:44):
it's about no.
Have you seen the guys actually?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
get the high score.
Oh, I have, yes.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
They're not shooting it.
No, they grab and just toss.
They're not even looking, it'sjust a feel yeah, and I mean
they're getting outrageousnumbers and it's kind of cool to
watch, but at the same time,let's just go 4U arcade.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
then there we go.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I need a.
I need a room for that, thoughyou got to have space.
Those, those machines arebigger than you think.
Oh, I know they are.
They take up so much space, andI couldn't begin to tell you
how much those cost Probablymore than you would think, oh.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm sure the old ones , yeah, but I'm telling you, and
we looked at them and I stillwant one the golden tea.
Golden tea, yeah I want somegolden tea.
I want one of the newerversions though.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh yes, yes.
So a vintage version would becool, just for the nostalgia
aspect of it, but the newerstyle ones feel much more like
playing like a video gameconsole, like they're just the
graphics are better.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Everybody's talking about what our kids today do.
I think they play video games.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
They go to their buddy's house hang out.
So I think I think they stillenjoy the arcade aspect of it.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
but I think it has to be the right style of games,
like it's got to be somethingthat's what people are doing,
like on Friday night, where weused to go to Bowling Alley and
Generation 4 would go to Skateand Rink.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I also don't think they are because there's not
many around.
Oh, I agree with that.
But even when they are, I don'tknow if they are or not.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Maybe Are there any Skate and Rinks still around.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I don't know of any locally.
Like I said, the last one Iknow of it closed down a few
years back and that was over inHendersonville, so I don't know
we're bringing back the 90s?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
No, we are not, that's not even 90s that's like
70s.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh well, true, but they still have it in the 90s.
If you're doing the skatingrink, that's way before 90s.
It was still fun in the 90s.
So all the people our age theywould go there like crazy.

(13:52):
But I think I think that's whydave and buster is so successful
.
Yeah, because you got to thinkit's not for kids.
Oh, I know, that is, that isfor our age, you know a little
bit younger.
Whatever, to go, enjoy, it'sfun.
100 I've never been?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
have you been to one?
Uh, we was in one.
No, actually, I don't think itwas dave and buster's, it was
very similar, but I think it wascalled something else.
We were were somewhere onvacation or something.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
We went in a mall and there was a big arcade, so
there's a big something kind oflike that in Cincinnati we went
to and it's got all kinds ofbowling lanes like full bowling
alley massive arcade upstairs.
I mean it kind of has like allof the different stuff all in
this one building.
It's like four stories, it'sjust a full amusement style.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
but it's all the games more.
So what I thought interestingabout this one, they had like
four different little rooms thatyou could go in with your
friends or whatever, and it waslike karaoke and I guess you'd
take four to six people, eightpeople I don't know how many
people would fit in that room.
I guess it was a decent-sizedroom but separate rooms and you
just go sing karaoke, I guess.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I don't know.
I mean, that doesn't appeal tome at all.
Well, no that just doesn'tsound fun to me.
But yeah, that's a very I meankaraoke used to be huge Still is
in other countries.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Now we do everything on our phones.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yes, like everything, literally everything.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
So I will find myself looking something up or
something gets my attention andnext thing you know you're 15
short videos in on a Facebook,instagram, something and you're
watching the most random stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, it's called going down the rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, but it's not even like.
It ain't like I've got onetopic.
It's random topics keep comingup.
Oh no, no, no, but that's thething.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
The way it works now is you scroll 90% of the time.
It has nothing to do withanything.
You were just watching.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Okay, but you want to know.
The other day that happened tome and at one point I stopped
and I went what am I watching?
I was literally and I sayliterally because it was 100%
what it was I was watching avideo of a guy kicking a rock,
literally, and I'm like what hasthis come to?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
At that point you just stop and think what am I
doing with my life?
Yes, I'm sitting here watchinga guy kick a rock, okay, so
apparently randomly, this videopops.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yes, I'm sitting here watching a guy kick a rock.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Okay, so apparently I randomly this video pops up.
I do want to find it and seehow many views it has.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
So it randomly come up and it's this guy and he's
like day 15 of kicking this rockaround to see how much weight
it loses as I kick it, I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
So every day he would kick it for so long and then
wait.
So what's your science?
He's a scientist.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
He's kicking a rock.
I don't know.
Is that a scientist?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I mean technically everything's science isn't it?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
But then I stopped and was like why am I watching
this guy kick a rock?
Why do I care how much weightit lost while he kicked it for
30 minutes or however long itwas.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I mean, I didn't watch the video because he had
it sped up the videos and it'sthe big press and they'll put
stuff in there and theybasically squish all these
different again.
Something like that when I was,when we were kids, and you're
thinking about all the stuff youwould do, which obviously
youtube wasn't around.
None of those.
You know vine or twitter, andyou know I know I went back to
vine because that's kind of whatstarted it all with.
I'm trying to remember what Vinewas, so that was like the
original TikTok that was likethe original shorts.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
No, so I never did it .

Speaker 1 (17:10):
But that's where a lot of those people kind of
started that let's do shortervideos, more like really fun,
entertaining shorts, yeah, andthen it kind of just grew from
there.
So now you get into TikTok andit's like I never thought some
of the stuff that these peopleare doing very well, doing a ton
of content on the stuff theythink is just so random.

(17:32):
I know, Like you said, the mankicking the rock, but there are
probably people that literallyare thinking I got to watch my
video today.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
They probably watch it every day.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I want to see, you know, did the rock lose weight?
At what day do we get?
Sorry, we've got somethingflying back here and it's taking
me back to last week.
I can't see it.
My back's to it, it's just leftof the tower.
Back here we talked about allkinds of flying objects last
week, so I'm watching somethingand I'm like huh, wonder what

(18:02):
that is.
Will would be freaking outright now.
Oh, will would be veryinterested?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
yeah, I'll have to text him.
Hang on, I gotta take a pictureof that.
I'll send it to him.
What is it should?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
be on the way back.
It really is something overthere.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I told you it was, I wasn't kidding yeah, I don't
know what that is and I knowit's podcast, so people can't
see it, but there really issomething weird flying in the
sky here behind me.
What do you think it is?
Because it doesn't look like aplane or anything, does it?

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well?
No, it's too low for a plane,because I watched it come across
the tower and it was like levelor about midway through the
tower.
It's got to be a drone orsomething, right?
I don't hear it either.
That's part of it, like itdoesn't look that far away.
This is perplexing.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I wish we was filming this so we could show the
viewers.
I did take a picture.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I'll send that to Brian and he can post it.
And all you Facebook geniusesyou're going to say, well, it's
just a helicopter and y'all justwant it to be something else.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
To me it looks like a drone.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I know what a helicopter sounds like.
I've been around them a lot.
Yes, like it's not what it is,no, but it's too big to be a
drone.
I don't know because a drone,like I'm telling you, when it
came through the tower, thelight when it came to the tower
was bigger than the lights onthat, and a drone one should
actually smaller, it's not thatfar away and it has no sound to

(19:21):
it.
I'm telling you listen they,they know Whoever is they, they
now know.
They know we talked about themlast week.
Uh-oh, now they're spying.
See, now I can see the redflashing light.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, I can tell like a flashing.
That's why I thought it was adrone or something like that.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
But no, but then it stops.
It should be running current.
It should be running current,it should be running consistent
the entire time.
I think it's getting closer tous, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
No, it's just kind of coming off across the left,
coming like an angle, but Ithink the angle is getting
closer Huh.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I don't know.
I will say this though If youwanted to see some weird stuff,
I guarantee if you stayed outhere long enough you would see
some weird stuff.
It's just because you have sucha good view of the sky all the
time.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Oh yeah, out here especially, and it's got the
same, like it's not sped up orslowed down or anything it's a
constant speed all the wayacross, but you think so.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
The hospital is nearby.
Here we see the medicalhelicopter in and out literally
all the time.
The speed kind of changesdepending on it's angle, but we
hear it.
The medical helicopter in andout literally all the time,
mm-hmm, the speed kind ofchanges depending on its angle.
Yeah, but we hear it, you hearit.
It's loud, but you can hear itcoming over the ridge Like
you'll hear it before we eversee it.
This.
I've not heard a single thing.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
No, and that's what at first I thought, when you
said I kind of turned around, Ithought it was kind of far away,
but it I kind of turned around,I thought it was kind of far
away, but it's not.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
It wasn't that far at all Like it was.
But again, so you say a dronelike I have a drone just here
inside the building.
When you know, as as we'llmention, last week I guess last
week or two weeks ago myprevious employment, I flew a
drone for certain operations andit was a massive drone.
That's way bigger than what weflew, way bigger.

(21:08):
Yeah, that, whatever that was,was huge.
It's going on.
Whatever it is, they're goingwell.
So, if you remember there, forjust a second, it had the
blinking red so it's got.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I can see it now.
It's blinking red and then itgoes blinking white and then
back to blinking red and back toblinking.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
But here for a while it didn't blink at all.
I mean, it came across thiswhole field section and never
blinked.
So that's interesting.
It's the first weird thing I'veseen in a while.
I haven't had any weirdinstances of things in a couple
years.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
This abruptly ends Choked on that one.
Whatever the word is, yeah, no,it was something that was
flying by.
That's all I can say well.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
So that that kind of brings me into a.
There's another podcast I waslistening to from kind of late
last week and they were talkingabout some kind of similar
things that we discussed on ourprevious podcast with.
You know, some type of light upthere, really close, kind of
similar to what we kind of justsaw, and the discussion is well,

(22:16):
there's this company, I believeit's called Skywatcher.
Okay, they classify all kindsof things, and so so some, some
of these communities are gonnasay, well, they're classifying
ufos or aliens.
In reality, what they, theybelieve they are classifying is
some type of military technologythat we that is not known to

(22:39):
most people.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, that's what I think it is.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
So they have, like person, class one through class
eight and it just kind ofsignifies the shape or the style
that they're seeing.
Well, apparently they've gotsome youtube videos and that's
what I think it is.
So they have like class onethrough class eight and it just
kind of just signifies the shapeor the style that they're
seeing.
Apparently they've got someYouTube videos and they really
kind of go into some of this.
They say 90% of what theyclassify.
They're like yes, we believethat is one of these select few
countries and it's this thatthey're flying Now.

(23:02):
It's stuff that we really don'tknow about.
It's shapes and technology thatwe are not privy to.
And they say well then there'sa 10%.
We don't have a clue and he'slike we are basically a
contracted company of formermilitary agents that our budget
kind of has an endless number toit, and there's 10% that we

(23:24):
couldn't tell you, they don'tknow what it is, and so it's
interesting, because it's likeeven the people that, like,
their job is to study, thatthere are still things that they
just don't know what it is yeah, I still think it's probably
just the military type stuff.
Again.
And when I say 10%, they don'tknow what it is In my mind.
There's something new that theydon't know what it is in my

(23:45):
mind, that's, there's somethingnew that they haven't figured
out yet.
I can't, not that it'sotherworldly, or I.
I just don't.
I don't have that thought in myhead I can't say no, there's
nothing out there.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
There's no what most people call aliens right, but
I've never seen them.
So I can't say there is.
I'm kind of a I gotta see it tobelieve it type of person with
stuff.
I'm't say there is.
I'm kind of a I gotta see it tobelieve it type of person with
stuff.
I'm that way with ghosts andall that kind of stuff.
I've never seen them.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
It's the same thing with pretty much all of these
mythological creatures, whetherit's, you know, ghosts are not
technically mythological, butyou kind of classify them in
that kind of rare type, whateveryou're talking about uh,
bigfoot in the past and thingslike bigfoot and the loch ness
monster, and you know chupacabraand you know all the.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
I don't even know what you could, you've never
heard of chupacabra, chupacabra,whatever you just chupacabra.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Okay, I have no idea what that is uh, it's basically
like a blood-sucking animal outof mexico and south america and
some of those areas.
What does it look like?
Almost like a little demon typething, like a little bat, but
that runs around.
It's a small little creature,sure, but again it's new to me.
Well, but then there's actuallya scientific group that came

(24:59):
out five or six years ago thatthey believe the chupacabra was
a, actually an animal that, uh,thylene, some, some type of
creature that wasn't native tothe area.
They had two of them, abreeding pair.
A convoy wrecked that wastransporting them.

(25:20):
They got loose.
So there's this group that'slike it would explain one.
They're rarely seen whenthey're in the wild.
They're just very good atcamouflage, very good at hiding,
very good at that stuff.
They're not really a predatorto anything other than small
animals, but they, you know theyare carnivorous, but they're
for very small creatures.
Why you don't see them.

(25:41):
When you do see them, it's likethey're they're already bolting
because they've already sensedyou, like.
So there's a group that's likethey're already bolting because
they've already sensed you.
So there's a group that's like,pretty much we can always
explain something, there's someway to do it.
But then there's also thepeople that blindly nope.
It's something else, because alot of people just want to
believe in that.
Something else Because it'sinteresting.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I mean it's an interesting topic, obviously.
I mean heck, we're stilltalking about stuff like this
for two weeks now, or whateverit was.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I think it's been longer than that.
I mean, we've mentioned them inthe past, but yes, I'm kind of
the same way.
The alien thing.
You have something weird comeby in my mind it's some type of
military something.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Whether it's ours or somebody else's, it just feels
like that's what it's going tobe.
We are, somewhat, at least, asports podcast, yeah, but I
think people care more about thecrazy stuff we talk about than
they do the sports.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Sometimes.
Yeah, I mean, I agree with that, it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Everybody wants to chime in and talk about you know
, don't go there.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I know where that's going.
Don't go there.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Just everything that's not where is it?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
I don't see it tonight.
No, not that I was talkingabout the other thing, the thing
that's always in the sky, thatI have no idea what you're
talking about wills.
We know we don't believe.
We visited there oh, we'll getback into that.
It just goes crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
You know I'm going to say it.
We did not visit the moon.
I'm just going to say it.
It's not the first time yousaid it, I know, but you're
trying to get me to say ittonight.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
No, but I'm just saying, because you have so many
people, that again it's thisblind thought of.
Well, the government said wedid, and yeah.
There's a lot of things theysaid that is not either true or
good.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Oh, wait, I think this hockey game just ended,
finally.
Nope, oh no, it didn't whatit's still there.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
They must have been showing stuff from early.
I don't know either.
I thought it was over.
Still a minute left in overtime.
See, this is what's excitingabout hockey, because now
they're fixing to just like goafter it because there's a
minute left.
But shouldn't they've?
Been going after it longer yeah, but now they know like, okay,
we got a hurry time's runningout.
I mean they'll just go toovertime, but I mean they know
that the clocks doesn't stopthem, so it's like just keep

(28:00):
shooting I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I don't that I want to go into shootout.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I feel like Dora, not Dora.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
No, I want to see a shootout.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
That's way more fun.
What's the?
Just keep swimming swimmingDory.
Dory, yeah, I was very confused.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I feel like, just keep shooting.
Did you bring your backpack orsomething?
I was very confused how we gotto Dora.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
My kids have their little backpacks and it's unreal
how many times that sayingbackpack comes back, swiper, no
swiping.
But our kids don't know whatthat is.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean, that's so funny like my kids don't know,
dora, yeah like they didn'twatch.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
That it's way.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
My oldest does some I can see, I could see her
knowing it, but even then it wastailing off by the time she was
she was.
It was old enough to watch thatyeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, since we said we are a sports podcast.
I guess we could at least talkabout the draft.
That happened recently.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
NFL draft yeah, we, we had some fun controversy to
me, I thought it was hilariousso I mean number one pick.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I think everybody knew it was going to be Hamward,
yeah, and there was no questionthat he was getting I think
partly because of his demeanor,he kind of got overlooked a
little bit.
He's number one, boom, move on.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
So I don't even think it had anything to do with him.
I don't think we overlooked itbecause of him.
We overlooked it because thenarrative the past few weeks has
been Travis Hunter and SugarSanders, like that's just, it's
been polarizing.
Like that's that's just, it'sbeen polarizing.
It's Deion's boys, it's, youknow, I say Hunter being Deion's
boys, but you know, coming fromColorado, but because
everything was about where arethey going, when are they going?

(29:32):
And and there for the longesttime, cam Ward's the number one
quarterback.
Shadur is the number twoquarterback.
Well, that didn't happen bytheir rankings, yeah, not that
fans or everyone necessarilybelieved that, but by their
rankings.
Shadur was the number twoquarterback in the draft, the

(29:55):
number 35 overall player, mm-hmm.
So you know, not necessarilythat far down the list, really,
when you think seven rounds, 200and something, total picks 35th
is a pretty high ranking andthen you think second in that
position, which again sorryhockey going to its 15th
intermission.

(30:17):
So you think typically there area lot of quarterbacks drafted
and especially after last yearthere were plenty of teams
looking for a quarterback therewasn't many good quarterbacks in
this draft but I say as a whole, the talent pool was very low,
because when you start seeingsome of the people that were
drafted, I mean jackson dartwent really high.
Uh, what's the kid fromlouisville?

(30:38):
I don't know whatever his nameis.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
He went really high.
And what's the kid fromLouisville?
I don't know his name Show orwhatever his name is.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
He went really high and these are not guys that
we're just sitting there like.
These are fantastic, like nextlevel type players.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I don't understand why Cam Ward didn't get more
attention, because he's like byfar the best quarterback in this
draft and I know so.
Schrour, he slipped big time.
Yeah, going what fifth round?
Fifth round, I think it was.
Yeah, Did that give him moreattention?
Because of that?
Because that's all they wantedto talk about then, since he
didn't get drafted, was keeptalking about him, keep talking
about him.
So if he'd went ahead and gotdrafted early, they might have

(31:15):
moved on Well, but I think it'slike everything else.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
It's content, yeah, like he had a room specially
done for the draft.
He was, you know, he's apolarizing character, just like
his dad.
I mean, a little bit different,obviously because it's more
modern, but he's a verypolarizing character.
Now that we're kind of lookingback at it, you've got again.
We don't know how much truththere is to this, because
they're like well, this team'scoming out saying that he did
this poorly did this poorly.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
We don't know if they're true to that.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
We have no idea.
They can control that narrativeand typically it's easier for a
team or organization to controlthe narrative than it is a
player.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I can tell you what he said in press interviews.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
The stuff that we actually watched was pretty
rough.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I couldn't believe he said some of the stuff.
He said it was almost like youneed me more than I need you
type stuff and a lot of peopledon't take to that well.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
So here's my question , because especially chitter and
and here's the thing we talkabout how interesting it was
that he, he fell and all thisstuff, but we're still sitting
here talking about him.
That's the thing is.
It is polarizing to still talkabout.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
He lost a lot of money, but he's still being
talked about.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Do you think he makes the final roster?
Because fifth round, you're notreally guaranteed a spot and
there's five quarterbacks onthat roster currently.
They're not going to keep maybetwo or three he will be on a
roster.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Whether it's that one or not, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Or does he fall to practice squad Whether it's that
one or not, I don't know ordoes he fall to like practice
squad, because I mean I don'tsee him being out.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
His family is not going to settle for that.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I just don't think they have a say at this point.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Deion won't stop until his son is somewhere.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
But here's my thing In his mind.
He is a day one starter, likein his mind, I know.
A day one starter, like in hismind, I know.
But in reality, how many true,and I mean true rookie day one
starters at quarterback do youactually get?
Because most of those guys theysit maybe three, four games
before they actually, you know,take the job.

(33:13):
Because in in my mind, if I'mthe browns, knowing who I have,
I don't think Watson playsanymore.
I don't think there's too muchsurrounding it.
He's had too many injuries.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Didn't they bring in Flacco or something?
Is that who did that?
They brought him back?
Yeah, he was there before.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
They have five quarterbacks currently.
Yeah, they got Kenny Pickett,who was drafted last year in the
first round.
They have Dylan Gabriel, whothey just drafted, Shadur
Sanders, Deshaun Watson and JoeFlacco.
No team keeps five quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
You're not going to do that.
Gabriel might be better thanShadur Sanders in the end.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I don't know if there's a might be.
I mean, I think he demands ateam better, I think he just
commands it better.
I think he could have morecontrol.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Now I have to say we get all this narrative with
Deion and Shadur and they, forlack of a better term, run their
mouth nonstop and that's whatgets on my nerves.
But to Will's credit, like hesaid before, I do agree I've
seen more stuff recently thatDeion has done with their team
and the players team and theplayer, like he truly loves
these kids, like he's trying todo great by them.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Well, it's the non-stop.
People aren't talking aboutjimmy horn that got drafted by
the panthers.
He has basically looked at dionas a father for the past
several years because his ownfather's in prison yeah and you
know there's the several storiesthat have come out and dion's
like you know you don't want toend up like your dad.
You're better than that.
You know there's the severalstories that have come out and
Dion's like you know you don'twant to end up like your dad.

(34:42):
You're better than that you know, do the job, you know, put the
extra work in and you know he'sa slightly undersized guy.
But I'm sitting there thinkinghe could be a heck of a slot
receiver and they got him fairlylate and I'm like that's
actually a really good pick atthe time.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
That's one of the big story.
I they don't talk about itenough, but everybody knows.
But I've been seeing a lot likeall these little things that
he's done for his players andsaid for his players and I think
he means great.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think Deion as a coach is going to be successful.
I think long term, because Ithink he's doing the right stuff
.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I think he's doing both the football stuff and the
outside stuff, I don't know ifhe's going to be successful as a
coach, and the reason beingbecause he's so caught up in
himself and his brand so much.
Now he uses that for a lot ofgood, but the thing is,
especially if he's willing tostay at Colorado.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
He can put them in a bowl every single year and they
will never fire him.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
So you brought up Colorado, because that only
takes six wins.
They will not Six wins, likethey will not Six wins.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Like I don't know that he's going to go somewhere
else.
But at Colorado, success is notnational championships For them
.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
It's bowl games.
So we said we didn't know ifShadur should have had his
jersey retired and all that.
Oh there's no, should, does itdefinitely change, like the
people that said, yeah, heshould.
Does the draft change any ofthat?

Speaker 1 (36:01):
or are they still looking at what he did at
Colorado?
I don't think your draftnecessarily changes that because
, for example, a Quinn Ewersfantastic at Texas.
Statistically he put up a lotof big numbers but he ended up
going seventh round.
That doesn't change how well hedid at Texas.
Yeah, I'm with you there itdoesn't change that.
So to me not necessarily, butin my mind when I really go back
and look at Shadur's statistics, it's not worth retiring

(36:25):
jerseys the year he leaves.
I want to know that's reallyearly.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I want to know from a Colorado fan, somebody that's
been there that follows the team, who the heck I mean where?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
are you going to find ?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
that Correct, but I want to know that's not a
bandwagon On that team.
Was he the second best playerin the Travis Hunter or not?
Or was there other players thatmade him look good?
I never looked at him as thisgreat superstar, and clearly the
NFL didn't either, to let himdrop as far as he did.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
No for him to drop that far.
They could not have seen him asa just really high-level talent
.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I feel like if you get your jersey drafted or
retired, you got to be draftedin the first round, like if you
were good enough to get draftedor to get it retired you should
be in the first.
It just doesn't make sense tome.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
So to me if, if you were getting your jersey drafted
so you said drafted too sorry,you said it and I was like I
said it twice I know if you weregetting your jersey retired and
I I was talking about gettingRay saved before the draft when
he is technically not truly gonefrom Colorado yet because it
was retired before he wasdrafted.
I can understand Travis Hunterbecause it's a Heisman winner,

(37:36):
but he got drafted second.
But even then I'll take,because this was before he was
even he's even drafted.
Oh, I know the retirement camebefore that even happened, so
it's like we don't.
They both could technically notget drafted and I could still
see the heisman winner gettingit before the guy that I just
did.
He did.
He win an award, if you're.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
He didn't win a best quarterback, he didn't win if
you're good enough stuff, ifyou're that good to have a
jersey retired, I feel like thatshould mean something.
You should be good enough to goplay in the next level and not
drop to fifth round.
That's my opinion.
I could be wrong, I don't know.
I do have a football question Ido want to ask you about,
though I don't want to get toofar off.
I don't watch this at all, butI randomly saw it.

(38:19):
The football league is going onnow, which I believe is now UFL
, right.
Is that what it is?
Yeah, the Spring Football.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
League, the Spring Football and you know it's been
XFL.
It's been like 100 differentthings and then they combined
some stuff.
They've been UFL for a bit now.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Have they?

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Okay, so they're doing this challenge like where
you, the coaches, can callchallenges on plays.
I've seen this.
I saw a highlight of a uhholding penalty.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
That's the one I was gonna bring up.
Yes, I thought it wasinteresting I have mixed
feelings about it, because theofficials can't see everything,
and holding is probably one thatgets missed a ton but the
problem with holding is becausethere's the old saying you could
call holding on every playsomewhere in that play.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
There's probably a good chance that there is
somewhere that that technical byby letter of the law rule was a
hold.
And I'm like again that thatseems like another reason to
slow the game down, to stop it,to have another tv timeout, to
have another thing slowest,slowing down the pace, which

(39:30):
football, honestly, is notreally a high pace game like
you're thinking.
Post score, like during thedrive, yeah, it can be pretty,
pretty fast paced, but postscore you think about.
Well, then there's extra point.
I know that league does somethings a little bit different,
but there's the touchdowncommercial.
Then there's whatever two pointfield goal or extra point,

(39:51):
whatever, after commercialkickoff commercial and it's like
okay, now if we're going to doa challenge, there's a fourth
one so there's been challenges.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Challenges like in the NFL, where they can throw a
challenge flag.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
But it's never been, yeah wildly unsuccessful, like
it's not a very common.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Well, because a lot of football calls is judgment
calls, Even that holding.
So there's some Like thatholding call in that clip that
you're talking about.
That I saw was pretty.
I mean it should have beencalled the game.
I don't know how it didn't getcalled.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
But a lot of calls are just judgments.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Oh, 100%, like you can't throw a challenge on a
pass interference.
It's a judgment call.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
But by their league.
Yeah, you can.
I think you can.
And, honestly, the NFL.
The reason they got thechallenge system was because of
a pass interference that wasn'tcalled.
But, like you just said, it'sunsuccessful Very few have been
switched, like the couple thatI've seen that were switched was
basically the ref was watchingsomething else and just didn't

(40:54):
see Like he was watching theclose receiver and it happened
more down the seam.
It's like all right, well, thatone, I can see why he missed it
, like there was just a lot inhis area, fair enough.
But the one that it's likesingle outside receiver one
corner, you're wanting thepenalty and it's like he's right
there.

(41:14):
If it was, it's either calledor if it wasn't, it's not, it's
interpretation, but I don't feellike they're going to change it
.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
That's another one If you went back and watched
videos.
On almost every play adefensive back is grabbing a
receiver, even if it's for asplit second or something.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
That's a penalty If you went back and looked by the
rule yes, but it's like inreality.
That's stupid, it is.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
It shouldn't be, but in reality that's stupid.
It is.
But I'm kind of of the argument.
If grabbing a player, likeslowing them down, is a penalty,
it should be called and, likeyou said, holding in every play.
Maybe we need to tighten thatup.
There shouldn't be holdingevery play.
That's the rule.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Well, but again, like we said with NBA last week, if
you start making the calls notnecessarily super overly strict,
but start to make it more alongthe rules, these guys are good
enough that they can play thatway, but my thought is too.
You talked about that with thecorners, but you also have the

(42:15):
receivers Receivers do it asmuch, if not more.
And I'm like, but at the sametime, if you're at this level,
that little bit of physicality,as long as it's not completely
changing the play, I'm just like, let it let it.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
I wish I don't mind defensive backs and receivers
would just play without tugging,without hand fighting, without,
like once you're past fiveyards you're not supposed to be
allowed to do any of that andthey let, let it go.
And they let it go and I getwhy.
But, like you said, with theholding.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
But still there's the interpretation, because is a
hand on someone still that?

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Not if they don't grab them.
It's not supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Well, but here's the thing A hand on someone
depending on pressure can beCorrect, so it's like it's still
going to have an interpretation.
So no matter how you do that,it's not necessarily going to
fix it.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I think all these things we need to clean up and
it's going to take somebodydoing it because it's going to
get weird at first.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I don't think it happens, though I don't think it
does either.
I mean, I'm not saying you'rewrong in that aspect, but it's
almost one of those Like thatwon't happen.
So one all we keep seeing andwe'll go back to the NFL,
because this is where we're justat All we're seeing in the NFL
is you can now make less contactwith the offense in whatever
way, shape or form.
Less contact, but do you think,because they want more points,

(43:34):
it's more exciting.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
You said like if they call the rules, the players
adjust to it, they're goodenough.
So I feel like if, okay, evencollege, whatever level you're
at, if you're calling moreholding calls, the guys are
going to say, hey, they're goingto call this.
I've got to quit doing this.
And I feel that way with theUFL challenge.
I wonder does that start makingtheir players go?
I've got to quit holding.

(43:55):
Like normally I can get by withthese, because you know teams
are going to have guys that areliterally just watching random
stuff to try to put a challenge.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I'll even go back to that play.
It was a slight hold.
It was not as bad as the flopthat the guy did to make it look
like more of a hold.
So the guy gets held, yes, butwith the hold then the arms come
up and the head goes back andI'm like that again is like all
right.
That to me now negates some ofit in my mind.

(44:25):
Oh okay, you were not held thatbad.
No, here's the thing.
There are some of the holds,you see, they get inside there
as the guy pulls away and theyjust yank them.
There are some really bad ones.
This one, I'm not denying itwas a hold.
I think it was a hold, but Ialso think the guy's action and

(44:48):
reaction to it didn't fit the, Ithink some of their actions.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Even in that video I I looked at it more as being
frustrated, kind of throwinghands up like hey, he's holding
me, like look, oh no like, so Iwatched it like six times in a
row.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
It's not a frustration, it's a it's a flop,
I'm getting it, it's, it's likea look at me and I'm like
that's what I can't stand yougotta get their attention.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
You know, as football was kind of my thing growing up
and everything, and linemen aretaught to hold inside the
inside part of their shoulderpads.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Because if you keep your hands inside, they can't
tell you're holding.
It's not holding.
You are holding someone, but itis not considered holding
inside the chest Anythingoutside of it.
They call holding.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
So if that player starts moving one side or the
other, you've got to let go oryou're going to be holding.
Correct To me you're holding.
Either way, you've got of them,but you know I guess you're not
restricting their motion asmuch.
But I don't know.
Um, I don't know how much whenyou get into that, but I don't
really mind some challenges incollege, I know we don't want to
slow down more.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Look at you look at some of these top tier nfl
linemen, especially defensivelinemen, the really good ones
you may go in and get thatconnection and hold right there,
but the really good ones knowhow to disengage yes, they do.
So it's like again, it's notthat they are getting that the
offensive linemen have such anunfair advantage because, at the

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same time, the way that theyare now drafting and building
these edge rushers good luckgetting a hold of them because
they are so quick they'reslapping hands strong.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
They have such good moves at this point, so it's.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
It's not like you're gonna sit there and be like,
well, the offensive line, justhave it easy.
No, like we're not saying thatit's just.
It's just, I do get what you'resaying, so what do you think
about the the challenge then?

Speaker 2 (46:37):
you don't want to see like college football have a
challenge, no, so like, here'smy thing, and we've talked about
officiating several times.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I think officiating across all sports, not just
football, not just basketball,all sports needs to be better.
I think that we need to seemore consistency across all
sports in officiating because,like, like we said in basketball
, go back to the nationalchampionship.
Four fouls the first half, 20something.
The second half that's notcalled the same way.
Well, it's just not we've saidbefore.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
You know like basketball could use another
official, maybe somebody to helpif not two at this point.
Well, I feel that way.
Football, football has so muchgoing on with with.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
You know linemen and receivers and quarterback, and
you got all these different, butI think it's the same problem,
though the speed of it is wellso much, but I feel like we
already have a gazillionofficials on a football field.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
So yeah, I do think more would help, but at what
point is it okay?
We've got enough.
I don't know what enough is ona football field.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
So I don't know what the number is, I don't know what
exactly is enough to me.
Part of what makes sportsinteresting, exciting,
controversial is some of thatinterpretation.
Now, my whole thing with thatinterpretation is if you

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interpret it one way, now dothat all game, keep doing it all
game.
I agree because I understand,like, no matter what the rules
say, there are always someofficials that just see certain
things better, like we talkedabout that before, like yeah,
there are some guys.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I don't like that, though I get why work better.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
There's some guys that see the hands better.
There's some guys that see all,whatever it may be, so they may
naturally make more of thosetype calls.
But my whole thing is like justcall it that way, all game.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
In this instance, I'm a rule follower.
If that's the rule, I want tocall it.
And I want to call it tight, Iwant to call it strict.
That's the rule.
If you don't like it, changethe rule.
Make the rule a little looser.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
So I think their way of going about that is, instead
of making the rule looser,they're basically just telling
them be looser on your call.
You're right.
That's probably easier thangoing through and changing all
these rules, because then it'show do you actually word certain
things?
It becomes kind of a mess.
I get what they're doing withthat, it's just.
The hard thing I always see is,if I played this way in the

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first quarter or in the firsthalf or whatever it is, I should
be able to play the exact sameway.
Yeah, all game.
No, I'm 100, like that's.
That's the thing that.
That kills me in every sport,whether it's football, hockey,
basketball, whatever.
Like, just make those callsconsistent, yeah no like.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Like again in the nba .

Speaker 1 (49:15):
we see it, the seventh, eighth guy off the
bench isn't getting the samecall.
Lebron's getting.
It's facts.
They protect the superstars andI'm not saying don't protect
them, but a foul's a foul's afoul Like just if it's a foul,
call it.
I'm fine with that, but if it'snot, don't call it because,
well, we want our star to dothat Like I care less about that

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, and I say LeBron, just becausehe's the biggest name in
basketball for the past 20 years, kind of like what you
mentioned.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Different officials see things differently and
there's so many things that,well, it's up to their
interpretation of the rule andwhat they see.
Some of that is kind of acop-out to me in a way Like oh,
that's my interpretation.
There's too many rules that areleft up to interpretation for
them to ever get right.
So I like the challenge.

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I don't know how it's going towork out.
I'm curious to see how much ithappens, how it slows games down
.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I just think every time we keep saying now we are
not, that we shouldn't beallowed to question officials
because, honestly, likeofficials, they do whatever they
want.
There are no repercussions.
Later, like the NBA came outthe other night, well, they
should have called a foul atthis point.
That's all they say, it's likewell, that changed the game.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
So what do?

Speaker 1 (50:35):
you do about it?
The Lakers.
The other night, luka getstripped.
A trip is a obviously 99% ofthe time an unintentional action
.
He's coming up to the floor,the guy's foot's there, steps on
, it gets tripped.
By the rule, a trip is a foul.
Yeah, 100%, there's noquestioning that.
Well, they didn't call it, endsup getting a jump ball or a

(50:57):
turnover I can't rememberexactly what happened.
They end up losing by one.
I'm like well, you just took apossession away because you
didn't make the call that shouldhave been called.
So they come out and say yeah,they should have called that and
that's the end of it.
And it's like I understand, youcan't go back and change it now
, but hold officials accountablefor bad, poor judgment.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Let me ask you this a full basketball game, normal,
just just nothing jumps out atyou like that, like big plays.
How many foul calls are calledincorrectly or missed in a game?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
I think it depends on the level, the level of
basketball.
I think it depends.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Let's look at the NBA .
Is there more than 10?
That's missed.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
So NBA, I think, nba excuse me, nba, I think probably
has the highest.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Oh, you think it's more Okay.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Well, because again you get into stars, they're
getting some of the calls thatare not typically called.
I mean James Harden for yearshas gotten certain things.
I mean he's he leads the NBA infree throws over the past
several years, sga this yeargetting these calls and it's
like you know he does a reactionand they call it because it's

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him.
If let's see if White for theCeltics does the same thing,
he's not getting the sametreatment and he's not like a
no-name, he is a starter on achampionship caliber team.
So it sounds to me like you'resaying there's more than 10.
I think in the NBA you have aton of calls that are wrong.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
That's hard for me as a fan.
That's part of the reason Idon't like the NBA.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Well, so I just don't think the NBA is in a great
place.
I mean, I think and we'll berolling his eyes and upset what
I'm saying but you go back andlook at Kobe and Jordan era.
There's a comment I saw theother night LeBron in a close
game in the playoffs, down onegoofing off talking with

(52:53):
somebody on the other team andthey're like Kobe wanted to kill
you, like he's not talking toyou.
Oh yeah, exactly.
He may talk to you after theseason, when we've all been
eliminated from the playoffs.
I'll talk to you, but during noshot, during the game.
He has no friends.
It is no, he didn't like hisown teammates, I mean like he
literally was like I am here towin period.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
You know this is.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
And that's not the way these guys are now.
So we're seeing.
You know it's a ton ofcamaraderie.
Parts of it are not bad for thegame.
Off the court.
Some of the stuff they aredoing together off the court
fantastic, great, I see a pointin it.
But on the court when you stepon the court, which by the way
Carolina just won, oh nice,Finally.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah, you know it's funny and again, I'm not
comparing myself to Kobe, by nomeans, or MJ, or anything, but
so I coach a couple of differentlevels of softball youth
softball Um, I've got girls onone team that I play against
with my other team at times whenwe're in different leagues and

(54:01):
stuff, Um, and when we step outon the field I actually told my
wife this this, I think lastnight I said as much as I care
for those girls and I helpedthem and everything else, when I
step on the field against themthe girls that's in my dugout
they expect me to do what ittakes to win that game.
They don't, they don't carethat those girls are on my other

(54:22):
team at times.
They don't care.
Like, you have to step on thatfield and everything else is
aside.
You're for your team and foryou and I think that's the way
sports are supposed to be.
But that's sports Exactly Like.
But, like you said, you don'tsee that now.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
No, but my whole thing is, if I mean, listen me,
and you have been friends for avery long time at this point, if
me and you are playing againsteach other in any kind of
legitimate competition,something on the line, I'm not
having that type of relationshipwith you.
During, no.
Afterwards yeah, we're probablygoing out to eat together.
Yeah, perfectly fine, cool.

(54:57):
But during, I know you're notgoing to be.
I'm definitely not gonna belike I'm not cutting up having a
good time, like when you, likewe go up here and play, used to
play some wreck ball and justgoof off.
You're like, yeah, that's fun,that's a different thing.
Yep, but then all of a suddenyou say here's a team, here's a
team.
You were trying to win andaccomplish something.
My team is who I'm looking outfor.

(55:18):
Yeah, like again, I'm not, I'mnot here to hurt you, I'm not
here to do anything wrong, butat the same time, like I'm here
for these guys.
Afterwards, yeah, let's go getsome people.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
There's a lot of people that would say that's
wrong, Even for me, but why youshould?
You know you should care aboutthese people and I care about
these people.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
But in that moment I have to do.
It's the same thing like foryour family I have to look out
for my family.
Yeah, like my family has tocome first.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
It's just the way it is well, it just so happens, you
know, in teams, and I think ofKobe with this, with his, when
he ran over Paul.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Gasol, paul Gasol in the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Olympics.
Yes, he was his teammate on theLakers Olympics.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
He wasn't, and that was a month after the fact.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Exactly, and it's kind of that same concept of
when I step on that field court,whatever you're doing, your
locker room is expecting you tofight for them.
Doesn't matter if your buddy'son the other side, if you've
played with him before.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Doesn't matter if it's your literal brother.
Like you are not with him atthis point.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yeah, that's you know .
We talked about the big tradewith Luca and Anthony Davis and
whatnot.
When Luka's playing Dallas,they expect him to go as hard at
Dallas as he would anybody else, because he should be fighting
for his team.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
That's one of the situations a little bit
different.
He wants to destroy Dallas, oh,I know Because of the way that
happened.
Like those games were so muchfun to watch because, like he
has so much animosity.
Even at Dallas, where it's likehe was super emotional, super
happy with the you know montage,everything they played before
the game, he thought that wascool because that was a fan
thing.
You know, he still cared aboutthe fans because they did so

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much for his career so far.
But as far as the team and theorganization he wants to to put
up 100.
He wants to just destroy them.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I'm not cutting you off here, but we got halftime of
an NBA game.
Yeah, I have seen the clip ofShaq putting on a shoe way too
many times Did you notice that.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
No, I wasn't paying attention.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
It kept showing this clip of him walking over
barefoot and sliding his foot ina shoe.
Oh, I wasn't paying attention,I do not need to keep seeing
Shaq's bare feet.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Speaking of Shaq, it made me think of that.
So have you seen all of thesecollege teams, college
basketball particularly that arenow hiring GMs?

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I see that a lot are doing it.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Yes, for the.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
NIL type stuff.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
No, no, no.
These are basically like, noteven for the NIL.
It's basically helping run thatbasketball program, whether it
is helping kids get to the nextlevel or just helping with the
whole transition and all thesethings.
I think they've needed itforever.
Steph got hired by Davidson.
Okay, he is like one of the fewcurrent athletes that is doing
it but he has strong ties.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
How does that work?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
I'm not exactly sure how it's all going to work yet.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I feel like you need to be full time in that job.
How are you going to be a?

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Well, I think you're more of a liaison than you are
actually running something.
I don't think.
I think it's a title, but Idon't think you're a little
hands-on day-to-day type thing.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Gotcha Okay.
See, I think they need ahands-on guy.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Mostly schools.
Some of them and some of theseschools may have some of those
things, but I think that'sprobably a different position.
But Shaquille O'Neal was justhired by Sacramento State to do
that.
So we're starting to see moreand more and more.
But my question is are we onlygoing to see it with star power?

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Are we only going to see thebig, well-known guys?

Speaker 2 (58:36):
That's what was going through my mind when you were
telling me that, okay, they'rejust getting names to attach to
their schools.
Potentially, maybe they'redoing some stuff.
I'm not saying they're notdoing anything.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
So for somebody like Steph, I don't think it's a bad
idea, because whether we like itor not, he's only got a couple
years left.
If that he's coming down to thetail end of his career.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah, and I liked watching Steph.
He's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I think Steph now is still one of the best players of
all time.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I've never been a fan of the Golden State Warriors,
but I still like to watch himplay.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
No, but Steph changed the game, like his style of
game has changed the game.
I mean he and that Warriorsteam changed what analytics look
like.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Just without a doubt, with what you're saying with
the teams, I think these collegeteams and schools they need an
actual GM and just a businessguy.
Well, a lot of them have thatnow though.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
But like I mean, because we talked about it, the
UNC basketball this past yearhired one kind of midseason and
their job is doing all the NILdoing all of that stuff.
So I think this GM role andagain like I was saying for
Curry, give it a couple yearswhen he's retired it's a great
something he can move into.
We don't know what his careerplans are after this.

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I don't know if he's going toeventually try to get into
coaching.
Who knows, typically thesuperstars don't know what his
career plans are after this.
You know, I don't know if he'sgoing to eventually try to get
into coaching or try you knowwho knows, typically the
superstars don't have to comeback and do that kind of stuff
because they're so set for life.
They don't really have to work.
They can be around what theywant to be around, you know,
like a shack and all these guysdoing the commentary stuff, like
that's a different role thangoing in, like having a game
plan and do all those things.

(01:00:18):
So for him to have some type ofrole that he can help grow a
program, help with potentialtransfers, because if you say,
hey, Steph is attached to ourprogram, yeah, that makes me
want to go there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
It feels weird that they're going.
I know why he went to Davidsonhe played there, sure but it
seems like a name like thatwould be at a bigger school, or
even like Shaq would be at abigger school.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
So far it's not the big schools we're seeing hiring
these guys.
I know that's what I think it'sall about, Like two of the
biggest ones we've seen so farwere Sacramento State with Shaq
and Davidson.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Maybe the big schools feel like they don't need them,
and maybe not.
You know, I think of this with.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
And realistically they probably don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
So pretty much every university.
I'm going to say I think 90% orprobably 95% of them.
They only yeah, see, there'sanother clip of his foot.
What are we looking at here?

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Anyways, football is pretty much the only sport in
college that actually makes aprofit.
And then you've got, I think,five or so colleges that make a
profit with college basketball.
All other sports lose money,with NIL and everything going on
and it being a business andthey're going to start running
as a business.

(01:01:38):
Can they keep doing that?
Because in business you don'tkeep doing something that you're
losing money on.
So if it's going to become abusiness now I'm not saying your
secondary sports are going tobecome businesses, they might
still do their thing.
But if college football,college basketball, college
baseball, women's basketball, ifthose are businesses, you can't

(01:01:59):
keep running negative.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
So I don't think they're going to run them as
individual businesses.
I think the university athleticprogram is a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Put everything together.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Correct Because it's like any massive chain, we'll
say restaurant, for instance.
There are some of them thatoperate in the red every year,
but as a whole you operate inthe green.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
I get what?

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
you're saying, you know it's not really hurting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
But if you've kind of been breaking even all these
years, football's been payingfor all your other sports and
now all of a sudden you've gotto start paying all your players
.
You've got to come up with moremoney.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Well, but I think also there is more money there
is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
The tv deals are way bigger now so did everybody just
pocket that before, likeschools were just not putting it
back into the athletics, youknow, I I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
I think more of it was going into pockets than
should have.
I think more should haveeverybody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
But the program, yeah , pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
It was for years I mean well, because I mean you
look there.
For a while we started to seecoach contracts even small teams
skyrocket.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Don't those guys come down now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
I'm not saying coaches don't deserve good pay
because it's a tough thing.
I mean I'm not going to reallyget into what jobs deserve good
pay.
That's a whole separate topic.
Because I mean the job of acoach, there's a lot.
I mean there's a lot to it.
If you're doing that full-time,I mean that's a very high
stress You've got to be on itall the time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
These coaches are making $10 million.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
No, I'm not saying they again.
Nobody in a game because sportsare a game should be making the
money they're making.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
No, but we can justify sports by saying how
much money they bring in.
Like the NBA, those guys makewhat they make because of how
much money they bring in, whencollege coaches aren't bringing
in millions.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I don't know how you justify paying them millions,
but the thing is, I think theyare bringing in more than we
realize, because these big teamsthat then have these guys go to
the NBA, to the NFL.
You're bringing a lot morenotoriety to your school, but
then you're also getting anotherpotential millionaire from your
school that's most likely goingto give back, going to give

(01:04:07):
back to it.
Because of what you know, thatwas something along their path
that helped them get there.
Yeah, so to me it's like, yeah,if that's me and I'm at
whatever school it is, and theykind of help me get to the next
level, I want to give back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
I think a lot of them do the same way, like with my
high school, like I would wantto give back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
I would want to give back all the way down because
without that you're not gettingthere.
Same reason we see all thesepeople.
I'm buying my mom a house, likethe parents are, like I mean
the very core of it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Part of this too and we've seen this recently with
Kentucky basketball.
It's floating around oh,kentucky's got a 20 million
roster this year and all thisstuff.
A lot of reports saying that'snot correct and I don't know a
lot of things too.
I don't believe the NIL moneythat's talked about.
I do not think players aregetting near as much as people

(01:04:59):
say Right now.
They don't have to tell thetruth.
Think players are getting nearas much as people say right now.
They don't have to tell thetruth.
And there's a lot of incentiveto inflate the numbers than
there would be to to say lower,because it makes everybody look,
look better, look what thisschool's given.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
I'm an agent, I got this kid this much money.
Right now you're going to makethose numbers look inflated
because I think everybody seesthe restrictions coming.
But if they have this inflatedlevel, well, we've got to kind
of keep it somewhat close.
You can't take us down to 5% ofthat.
It's got to be somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
But I think when the numbers come down and they put
limits on it, it's probablygoing to be pretty close to what
it actually was.
Everybody just said it was moreto make everybody look better.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Well and again, that's something we're not going
to know, Because like you saidit's not required that they tell
fully, like we're not seeingthe taxes on these things, we're
not seeing the true breakdownof all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
If I'm an agent.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
That's anything Like we're never seeing the truth on
those numbers.
But one of the reports I sawand they were talking about
pretty much all powerconferences Like, even, like
we'll say, acc Miami, who washorrible If you are a starter

(01:06:09):
those starters on pretty muchevery team was getting a million
plus and I'm like, but do youthink they really are?
I can't, so I don't know thatthey are, but I can't imagine
paying a 4-in-30 team $5 millionjust in starters, if not more.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
I don't see again as a business aspect.
The college is going in thehole a ton and a lot of these
public colleges getting fundingfrom state and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
And then losing millions.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Now again they say it didn't come from the college,
I'd say it's also not comingfrom there too.
Supposedly we don't know, someof these collectives, how much
money the collective really has.
Yeah, I mean you take a look atlike Carolina, for instance,
part of that collective has tobe Michael Jordan oh, like you

(01:07:03):
wouldn't operate without it he'sa billionaire yeah, so so so he
could he could pay their entireathletic program and not lose
billionaire status yeah no, I'mnot saying he's gonna do that
every single year, but like it'snot that much money to those
elite types no, I, I get.

(01:07:23):
So the collective, so maybe youhave 10 multi-millionaires part
of this collective.
That goes a long ways and thoseguys are not multi-millionaire
now.
They are constantly makingmoney.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
If I'm making the money that they, some of these
athletes, are making, I'm notleaving college.
College Do I have to, even ifI'm going to play the next level
?

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Because I guess it depends on how high on that
level are you.
If you're a lottery pick, likefor basketball, you're about to
get paid way more than they'repaying in college.
But if you are second thirdround, I'll hang out, I'm going
to wait.
They're paying me $4 million to$5 million right now.
Why would I leave?
Of guarantee?
Because I feel like it'sguaranteed that per what they're

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reporting, we don't reallyfully know it.
Because again, I look back andI'm like Miami paying Carson
Beck over four million thedumbest thing I've ever seen,
Like the kid is not worth fourmillion dollars, and that's what
doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Do we really believe they're paying him $4 million
Because nobody in their rightmind can figure out why he'd be
worth it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Or the rumor that Nico was looking for
four-point-something fromTennessee.
I'm like there's no way.
And then now there's the claimsthat both of the brothers, nico
and Madden, that they are inbreach of their NIL contracts
the schools could go after, andI'm like now we're going to get

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into some really questionablestuff With all of these is
agents, because that's who'stalking, that's who they're
putting out the narrative theywant.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
You can never figure out what's true and what's not.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
No, but that's like I've said multiple times now.
It is way easier for anorganization, a school, a team,
a league to control thenarrative than the individual.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
You just don't have the same resources.
I'll say this because we'resaying this about college
players.
It's said about all athletes.
They make way too much money.
Sure, okay, I guess, for onereason, it ain't my money.
Okay, the second should I evencare?
Should I even know what theseathletes make?

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Is it any of my business?
Like, if I love watching thegame, what the heck does it
matter what they make?

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Basically because everybody that makes a lot
people want to know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I know, but why?
Why do we care?

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Because that makes a lot people want to know.
I know, but why?
Why do we care?

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Because that's just the way it's always run.
Why don't the NBA just not tellsalaries?
And who cares?
I mean I know why they dobecause of caps, and you know
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
but they tell salaries too, because that's
what dictates this next guy'spay.
That's what dictates thepositions paid.
That's what dictates thepositions pay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
That's what dictates, but that's an everyday life.
That's the same thing in mycareer, but I don't go around
telling everybody what to makeyou know so but your career is
not polarizing Correct, likethat's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Your career is not in the limelight Now agreed If
commercial estimating are yousaying, I'm saying gotcha, I'm
glad you got there okay um, no.
But so if all of a sudden,tomorrow commercial uh,
estimating olympics starts andit's what everybody wants to
watch and there's millions ofmoney to push behind it,

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everybody's gonna know what youmake, I know, but because,
because it's visible like thestuff that's visible.
That's when it starts fallingthat way.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
So you're right.
We as a society, we want toknow.
It is polarizing.
We want to know, but at thesame time, I sit back and go
because I don't like what someof these people make.
Now, I'm a big believer in youget paid what you're worth.
Basically, how much you bringin, you get paid.

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We've talked about that.
In marketing A marketingcompany, it doesn't matter how
much you pay them, as long asthey're making you more than
you're paying them.
That's what it's about, and sothat's the same way with that.
But on some level, I sit backand go.
Why do I even care?
Yeah, and, and I think as asociety we shouldn't care.
We do like you said.
I know what I say that that'sjust.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Should we probably not, yeah, should should we make
any of these sports themulti-billion dollar companies
that they are absolutely not.
But we do, because that's whatwe're interested.
We enjoy it like we are whatcauses this.
That's the thing exactly well,and I'll say this too we may see
the contracts, we don't knowthe ins and outs, we don't know
any of that.
We have no clue how much theseguys are actually making.

(01:11:47):
I agree, because they make.
Especially the big name guysmake so much money outside of
their contract that we can'treally fathom it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
I don't know so much in NBA and things like that, but
like golfers we've talked about, they got to pay for travel and
training and coaches and likeNBA guys, I think they get all
taken care of Like they havecoaches they have facilities
they have, but they still haveto pay for agent fees.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
They still have which ?
Nba NFL?
I don't know exactly how golfworks.
It's a little bit different ofa sport the way they pay taxes.
They're paying taxes in like 48states yes, I agree with that.
I think the only two they aren'tpaying is Hawaii and Alaska,
because there are no games thereand honestly I'm just now

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thinking of it I don't know howit works when they're playing
out of country, because when youtravel to Toronto and play, I
don't know how it works whenthey're playing out of country,
because when you travel toToronto and play, I don't know
how that works.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Oh, I don't either.
That's a whole different aspect.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
I actually really didn't think about hockey and
basketball, but yeah, you thinkthere are Canadian teams, so
hockey has like eight Canadianteams.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
I think Something like that it might be six
Somewhere in there, I don't knowLike baseball has one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Basketball has one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Football has none right.
No, yeah, I was thinking thatthey have zero.
You know, we're watching thehockey game and I thought of
this the other day and Imentioned it before the podcast
the other day.
I'm watching a guy gets hit inthe face with a stick it was
accidental Gets a four minutepenalty.

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He was bleeding.
All that is hockey, the finalsport that still doesn't care
about safety, because I feellike they don't give a crap.
They're wearing these littlehalf shields over their eyes, is
it?
They're getting smacked in themouth with sticks and pucks and
slammed against like they're.
They're allowed to fight atsome points.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
I won't say it's the final sport, because there's a
few small sports that are notmainstream, like I mean, there's
some stuff that happens incricket, there's some stuff that
happens in rugby.
There's some stuff that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Rugby is one that's.
Yeah, I feel that way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
The sport high lie?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
I don't really know cricket.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
So there's a sport called high lie.
It's not big here, but it'skind of a little.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Well, maybe a big, but I mean it's bigger in other
countries.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
That's the thing.
Well, okay, we think of Americaonly, but obviously the world
is much bigger than us.
But it's basically a hard ballout of a curved, weaved basket
type thing, throwing over 100miles an hour.
Oh wow, these guys have nothingon getting pegged in the side
of the head.
It's crazy.
There are some sports that'slike we're trying not to kill

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each other and you guys justdon't care, why don't hockey at
least have the shield come downfurther Well so doesn't college
still have the full cage?
Oh, I have no idea.
Like they have like the fullhead so it basically closes down
completely.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Maybe I think they still have that.
That would make a lot moresense because I know a lot of
them wear pads under, you know,yeah, so they all have pads.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
They have some stuff on.
I mean same thing like NFL.
They have pads, but they'regetting smaller and smaller.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Yeah, but yeah, the fact that they don't wear
something across their full faceis weird.
To those, sticks are gettingslapped around like crazy.
Not even sticks, though, mythought is a skate.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
You go down and take a skate to your face.
Oh my gosh.
I mean it's a blade or a puckthat's hit at you.
I mean, yes, you could die.
I mean there's a lot that'scrazy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
It would be kind of the term oxymoron.
You know, I'd kind of feel likethat if they said, yeah, we're
going to get bigger helmets andshields and all this for safety,
but you can still rip them offin fist fight if you want and
still fight.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
So it's kind of like at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
maybe that's part of it, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
And maybe they don't do it because it's easier to
fight when you don't have a bighead here to take off.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Maybe they're like hey, you can leave your helmets
on and fight, you can still hitthem in the face.
You can catch them in the mouthand the nose still a little bit
.
Yeah, I don't know.
It seems weird, I don't know.
Everybody else is going intosafety stuff, but not hockey.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Sorry, we're watching Clippers and Nuggets.
This call is so late, he missesit.
They go the other direction.
Then the hand goes up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Do you have to?

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
wait and see if he missed it.
It's for Kawhi.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
For a star.
You get the call.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Yeah, like that's again one of those that it's
like was it maybe a foul,potentially, but why are we
waiting until the ball's going?
The other direction to call itI am.
That's what kills me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
I am so frustrated with officiating.
Just in general, I don't likeit at all.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
I love the fact that we still make him relevant,
though, as Peyton Manning popsup on the screen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
He's in everything.
Still Speaking of that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
I want to see Peyton Manning in another golf match.
Those were great.
Oh yes, those were great.
We haven't had a good.
So the last couple of matcheswe've had were big, high-level
golfers.
I enjoyed the celebrity aspectof it.
I do too.
A big golfer with a coolcelebrity.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
I want them to have fun, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Like that.
That to me was a lot of fun.
And of course you have to haveCharles Barkley there.
He is fantastic, he's.
He's just so funny Like he.
He.
He knows everybody at thispoint.
He gets along with them andjust them.
Cracking back and forth on eachother is some of the best stuff
.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
I love watching it.
Him and Shaq and Peyton and Eli.
They're not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
They're going to be around in something for the rest
of their life.
They're too important to theirsport to not be around.
So yes, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Peyton.
Okay, I think Peyton Manning isextremely important.
He's still going to be around.
But is Eli just because he'sPeyton's brother, or would he
still be there without Peyton asmuch as he is?
Because you know they do theManning cast and all that during
it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
I don't think Eli can do that without Peyton.
I think it helps that it'sbrothers, yeah, but honestly I
don't know that Peyton is aspolarizing without the brother,
Without it, Because I thinkthere's just so much back and
forth.
They bounce off each other sowell.
I mean, I think we would stillbe well Peyton's one of the
better quarterbacks in the NFLor of NFL history, but them

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together it's like there's justso much you can do with that.
So I think that's why it becomesand again, not that Shaq and
Barkley are brothers, but it'skind of that same feel.
They have the same Like theyjust have that camaraderie that
you just don't get all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
I didn't watch much NFL this past season, but when I
did I liked turning on theManning cast and watching it
that way.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Well cast and watching it that way, some of
the people that they have therewith them.
It's just hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Yeah Well, they're hustling a little bit on this
NBA game.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
We got hockey players on the other TV laying in the
net.
Of course they're going tohustle a little more.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
They got like five players in the net.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
But it's also 84 to 70 and we're not halfway through
the third yet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Yeah, this is going to be a high scoring game.
That's nuts.
Hey, I told you before I camehere tonight.
So I got done.
I was at a ball game and I ranand got some food and I went
through McDonald's drive-thruand I sat there forever.
I mean literally forever.
I mean I guess not literally,because I'm good.
Hours is hours is awful, butyeah, sometimes it's really fast

(01:19:01):
.
But the lady, she gets my drinkand I wait there a little bit
longer and she hands me the foodand I said the straw she gave
me my drink was like wet andhalf open.
I'm like, yeah, I'm not doingthat.
So I was like hey, can I haveanother straw?
So she hands me two of them andshe says something to the
effect of do you want to checkyour food there?
I'm not sure if it's all inthere and I'm like okay, isn't

(01:19:25):
that your job?
Like why did you hand me my bagand then say I might want to
check that.
You check that for me?
Let me know if everything's inthere, like what you done.
If I was like no, it's not, I'mjust she gave you more.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Oh, that's another 20 years.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
they do, though, like if you would have gave you more
, I would have had to waitanother 20 years.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
But that's what they do, though.
If you would have looked andthey're like oh yeah, I'm
missing two cheeseburgers, oh,give me just a sec.
Like that's just kind of Idon't think they think about
that I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
I like self-checkout, but I still think you should
check my bag of food where youhand it to me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
You know it just feels like I'm doing their job,
because I went to our local biggrocery store here the other day
and what I hate aboutself-checkout there's not enough
space.
Never is enough space.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
It's such a tiny little, because I don't think it
was meant for that originally.
To me it was meant forbasically like 10 items and less
, Like the old fast lanes orwhatever it was, if you you had
12, that made you get out and gosomewhere, right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
where it's like hey, you, you do a couple of items
and go.
But the problem is like walmart, a bunch of grocery stores, all
these places are switching toalmost all self-checkouts.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
They are, but they're doing those little ones like
that works so our local one hasone line that has like the
little belt and it's fantastic.
Yes, if you've got a bunch ofstuff, I love that one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
So if I have a ton of stuff which typically I don't
at our Walmart because it's nota super small thing.
I don't typically have thatamount of stuff, but I think
about when I went to the grocerystore.
I'm like if I had that or evenhalf of that, I would do an
entire load of groceries and notmine.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
The grocery store you're talking about.
What drives me nuts about it?
There's not a lot of space, soeven the stuff where you put the
stuff in the bags, not a lot ofspace, correct?

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
And if you pick something up off, of it, it
starts screaming at you that oneyou have to leave on it.
So you've got to leave all yourstuff on there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Yes, and keep moving stuff around to try to get there
, and try to get there, and then, when you finally pay, then you
can take all your bags off ofit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
But the problem is if you have too much, where do you
put it?
I don't know Like so if youever noticed there's a button
you can hit skip bagging?
I have noticed it and itdoesn't.
It doesn't do that and I'm likeyou, just skip everything
what's the point.
I don't.
I saw, so you know table.
I saw um something the otherday.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
It was a restaurant and I don't.
I want to say it was somewherein the state of North Carolina,
so I can't remember, and I'msure there's more of these all
over the place but in therestaurant you go and kind of
pick out what you want and youtake it to your table and you
cook it at your table Like agrill at your table.
I got grilled tritone stuff.
Why am I paying for that?
That's what I thought.
Again, I like the self-checkout, but we might be taking it a

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bit too far.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
So like I've seen that in a few places, I want to
say it was up New YorkPennsylvania area there's like a
pizza place like that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
That, like you'd make your entire.
I could see that beinginteresting making a pizza but
make your entire.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
I could see that being interesting making a pizza
, but if you're going for thatlike experience and that part of
it, sure it's different at thatpoint.
Yes, Like if I am going out toeat somewhere, my expectation is
I don't have to do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
That's part of the I think that's why buffets are
going away, because people aretired of getting up, and then
we'll get their own food on it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
They want, they want to be.
I think the quality of them isalso that is true, but I think
what 90s, early 2000s buffetswere huge oh massive massive,
you know, I can think of howmany there were I mean, like the
different types, there was aton of different buffets, but
yeah, so I don't think that's ascommon.
Well, another thing that to mebuffets aren't as common

(01:23:04):
post-COVID, the whole germ stuffLike a buffet is not a very
clean area, like it just can'tbe.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
It's nothing against the restaurant.
I remember going to a buffet alittle bit after that.
I think it was Okay and the fewlittle things like okay, so one
particular buffet, like you getyour plate and you go get your
food, okay, they had a I don'tknow container, baggy, whatever
thing, on the little counterthing where you get your plates

(01:23:33):
with plastic gloves and you'resupposed to put on the plastic
gloves before you got your plate.
Like what are we like, reallylike when a buffet yeah and you
want me to put on plastic gloves?

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
So in my mind the way that that works is have it set
up where there's like six itemsthere and you should tell
somebody what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
They should just scoop it out Like in school.
Like a cafeteria style, yeah,where it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
I want this, this and this and like obviously you've
already paid for it, so getwhatever you want, but I want
the potatoes and I want this andI want that and let's have
glass in front of all the food,so you can't even get to it Like
a Subway at that point.
Yeah, give me that, that I'd belike all right.
Yeah, that to me makes sense,because if you look at

(01:24:21):
especially, I'm sure, the buffetyou're talking about they have
so many workers, like they havesomebody attending that stuff
already, so it wouldn't be muchmore for them to just have to
serve.
Shouldn't be?
So that's me I'm like.
And again, don't stick that oneperson there for eight hours,
like give them like an hourshift of that and then rotate
them to something else.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
But the problem is we're going the wrong direction,
the fact that we're saying here, come get your meat and cook it
yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Here's all the supplies.
Go cook.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
We used to go to a Chinese restaurant where I used
to live.
I'm sure it wasn't quality, Imean it was decent, but I don't
like a lot of the Chinese food.
But what I loved about thisparticular one you could go over
to the little counter and pickout like pork chops and a couple
things like that and you takeit to the grill and they cook it
there and you can tell themwhat toppings, what vegetables,

(01:25:09):
whatever that kind of stuff thatI can handle a bit more because
I got to pick out when we havethat at our local one the big
one you can do that over.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
I'm not huge on Chinese foods, I just don't go
there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
But again, I didn't have to actually cook it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
No, you went and so, like the one here, because
that's the one I know you goover and you scoop out what you
want.
So you basically put as much asyou want on this plate.
You take the plate over to theman at the grill and he's like
alright, give me a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Like okay.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
I can handle that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
That's fine.
But even then to me, I'd ratherjust tell somebody like I want
that, that and that.
Uh, give me a little bit moreof that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Like I think we're just slowly cleaner going to
where we have to do everythingand I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
But it's the whole like automation thing, like
everybody wants to be able topay less to employees, pay less
on salary, so by doing that Igot some upfront cost in
equipment.
I don't have to pay somebody todo that job.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
You know who I blame for this?
Who's that Gas stations?
They started this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
I was kind of thinking the Jetsons, jetsons,
okay, we went different ways.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
No, back in the day, the gas stations.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Self service, you know.
They took care of you.
So there's.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
No, they were full service, you know, and they'd
clean your windshield.
I'm sorry, not self service,full service.
Pump your gas.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
And then when is it?
There's a state, for somereason I'm thinking Oregon but I
don't think that's right.
It is illegal to pump your owngas.
They have to still be servicedlike that, are they?
going to clean the literaturethat it's basically like,
because it's a chemical I meanobviously gasoline it's chemical
you have to have a trainedoperator.
So like somebody that likeknows, it kind of makes sense.

(01:27:00):
And when I heard that I waslike, oh, that's so stupid, why
can't you not pump your own gas?
And they started going into itand I was like, oh, well, so you
think about it.
Nobody's driving off with itstill attached.
Nobody's spilling it.
If there is a spill, nobodycleans it, and it's like 18, I
actually worked at a gas station.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
That's still done the pump gas.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
I've been to that one a couple times.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
But the crazy thing, it had eight pumps.
Four of them would be theworker like me.
When I worked there, we'd pumpyour gas for you.
The other four, you could pumpyour own gas, correct, and you'd
have to come pay me.
That was way too much for a lotof times, like one worker being
there trying to keep up witheight pumps four year pumping
four year trying to keep up withmoney.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Eight pumps four.
I got to do four you're doingbut you're still coming to pay
me for it.
That was too much yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
I agree.
Yeah, I didn't care for it, youknow again.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
I was 18.
My question it you almost feelthat you got to tip them.
Oh, I didn't get no tips fordoing so.
Like most, like if it washappening now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
A lot of people are going to look at that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
We would think so oh man, if I so, was it now I kind
of guess, was it more expensive?

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
to have you bump.
It was a few cents more pergallon.
The station charged a few more.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
So it's like why?
Why have you do it?
Like because, if you're,because I mean you think about
it like all of these, like ourbiggest local grocery store, you
buy food, you scan your littlething.
You get money off of gas.
We're always trying to save asmany cents on gas as you can.
Which gas back then was?

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
way cheaper.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
People that didn't want to get out of the car, but
I mean you think gas back then,even then, and that wasn't like
crazy, crazy much time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Probably we weren't talking 18 years ago or so.
At this point we're not talking50.
20 years.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
No, I agree.
People are like oh you know, agallon of gas is a quarter.
It's like, well, no, we'venever seen that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
No, actually, while I worked there, we had some of
the big spikes that hit $3, $4 agallon.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
You know even more than it is now gasping a dollar,
something like high dollarsomething oh, I did, but I can
also remember seeing it overfive yep, like we've seen
everything in between and weain't talking like in the big
cities either, we're talking no,we're talking out in the middle
of nowhere like big cities.
I can't imagine.
I mean, I remember seeing,during the height of everything,

(01:29:15):
some areas in california.
It was like twelve dollars agallon and I'm like or in a
there.
And then, uh, chicago, I saw,and I'm like or in a there.
And in Chicago I saw, and I'mlike I couldn't go anywhere $12
a gallon, I can't drive.
I can't drive to the gasstation.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Don't you think all this, you know self-checkout and
all this stuff, is it going toeventually just go through the
cycle where there's going to besome store comes out and they're
going to market you don't haveto check yourself out here, you
know, and kind of think so, just, but it's all going to make
everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Yeah, I mean, cause you think about it way back when
you had like the, the grocerystore, they would bag it for you
, they would take it to yourvehicle for you.
They'd put your cart away foryou.
Now we're to the point.
We've got, we've got grocerystores that you got to put a
quarter in just to get a cart.
Like you have to do all of thisstuff.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
So we're busy on the go all the time and I've got
three kids the two boys arereally small.
All the time my wife will ordergroceries online and we pull in
the spot, tell them we're thereand they'll bring the groceries
out to our car for us.
We don't have to try to takeall the kids in.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
That, to me, is the modern version of that person
bagging and taking it to the car, but they go and shop for you
now, too Correct.
So to me, I don't think we'regoing to see the full circle of,
like we said, this person'sdoing this.
I think there'll be somethingalong that line.
Our full circle will be more ofyou.

(01:30:46):
Just click it on the, thewebsite, and here you go, like I
think now they'll bring it toyour house even, but I think
that's just going to get moreand more items and just better
and better.
I think that's going to be thething.
I think you may see a storethat you're not allowed to come
in.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
It's only that I think potentially, you could and
it's like why not there's gasstations that way?
Yeah, why not Just have grocerystores that way?

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
So one thing that I wish you saw more was the
drive-thru gas stations, the one, like you, don't get out and go
in.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
You pull in it and you're like I lived in Ohio for
a little bit and I remember likeconvenience store type thing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
You pull in, it's like you're literally parked in
the store Inside of the store.
It's crazy.
Yeah, yeah, I remember that asa kid Because that was for me.
That was the first time I everseen it.
I don't think I've seen onesince.
And I was like whoa the firsttime I went to one was in
college.
Oh it was.
It was uh in tennessee, intennessee, okay.

(01:31:48):
Yeah, see, I don't know if thatwould stay or if that's going
to go away, I just think I justthink it's an interesting
concept, like things like thatare intriguing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
They're different, so I'm like those are.
Those are kind of cool yeah,it's the same thing like
obviously I missed the heyday ofthis.
I'm way too young for it, youknow 35.
I'm not really young, but I'mtoo young for this.
The drive-in movies that's sucha cool concept to me Again.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
I remember going to some as a kid with my family.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Like but you think about the movie theaters went
through this whole thing Like.
I can remember very simpleseats, very, very basic, to
where it went to.
Now we're getting nicer, morecomfortable seats.
Now we're getting loungingseats.
Now we're having full servicemeals during it.
Now we're having all thesethings and then now it's.
I just want to watch at home,like it went from like all those

(01:32:34):
things to it's like now I don'twant to go there so the reason
I watch movies at home?
because I don't want to pay whatit costs well, no, so that's,
that's a little different thethe price of it.
But I'm just even thinking likethe experience, the whole thing
.
It's why go do that when I canjust be comfortable in my own
house like we, we keep goingthrough these cycles.
I mean that's, that's just partof it.

(01:32:55):
I'm just what makes me wonderis like all right, what's next?

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
because we keep seeing the change it's like what
is I see with phones, wherephones are really big?

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
and we can't get them smaller and smaller and smaller
.
We've seen all the stuff andnow they start going big again.
They go big and then they goback small and it's just.
I don't think that'll changebecause that's just preference,
like you'll go through the timeof.
I really like having this bigscreen but then I know I mean

(01:33:25):
it's.
It's an interesting thing tothink about, because innovation
is.
It feels like to me there's notmuch invention that's going to
happen.
I feel like it's going to allbe innovation.
I don't think we're going tosee something just blatantly new
, I think we're just going tosee something that's improved.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
I think again.
I think it's going to, but nowthey probably said that 50 years
ago they said, oh, there's notgonna be much else invented, so
that I don't know if they saidit 50 years ago, even because
technology was just skyrocketing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
At that point, like 50 years ago, you were starting
to see I mean you're talking 70s, stuff was really starting to
jump yeah because I mean, likewe talked about star wars a few
few weeks ago, well, the all ofthe stuff that was done to make
that movie, they had to sit backand think, man, in 20 years
it's going to be so much easierto do.

(01:34:07):
Like all of the special effectsare going to be so much easier.
So you think now, 50 yearslater I mean half these movies
are done in front of a greenscreen and they just do all the
special effects, like you're nothaving to shoot much the same
way where everything before waslike you had to make these
noises and you had to do allthese things.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
I mean I kind of miss the I don't like saying the the
old man term simpler times, butsome sometimes the technology
and everything has made ourlives so fast paced, with
everything we do, and we're onthe go all the time sometimes
not all technology has reallybeen for the better, like just
because the technology hasadvanced, something didn't

(01:34:46):
actually make it better.
It's made.
It made things easier, but thenwe just did something else more
well.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
But again, easier doesn't actually mean better,
though like I'm with you becauselike that's the thing, like
there's so many things that thatwe do and it's like, well, yeah
, it's so much easier now, butit doesn't necessarily make it a
better experience or a betterthing we mentioned, uh, like the
older sitcoms, and I lovewatching those and seeing right

(01:35:13):
how things were different andand just no cell phones and a
lot of those older ones sothat's the biggest thing so one
of the one of the shows we'vetalked about now we're talking
about before that we startedrecording tonight was seinfeld.
So I can remember watching thatshow and it never once crossed
my mind.
And I see a post and there's athing saying jerry's apartment

(01:35:37):
cannot exist okay, so I'vestarted recently watching the
hallway, the, the way this iscannot exist, and I'm like, what
do they mean by that?
and they show kind of like thefrom just all the different
angles that you've seen over theyears, the way that they
because you don't see much ofthe outer, outer hallway, yeah,

(01:35:59):
but the little bit that you dosee they kind of make up this
mock, uh blueprint of how thiswould all go, and where the
hallway should go is directlythrough where his kitchen is
actually at yeah, because that's.
And again, on some of theseolder things that's not thought
about it didn't matter you dowhatever out here, but the main
set is right here, so you makeit however you want to make it,

(01:36:20):
but then when you try actuallyend up putting it all together,
it it's like, well, hang on asec, that can't.
And this isn't the only show,that's just one I know we were
talking about.
But I've seen a few wherethey're like, hey, the rooms or
this can't actually look likethis because of these things.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
So I've been watching Seinfeld a little bit more
because Will brought it up,right.
But I like all those oldsitcoms and there's several in
there.
But something I noticed inSeinfeld, and when I noticed it
I got to thinking about othersitcoms and it was this way with
all of them.
And even thinking back, thoughI think, if I think about my
grandparents' house, theirhouses might've been this way

(01:36:56):
too.
But every sitcom, if you get tolook in in their kitchen, there
is a million boxes of cereal.
I don't know if people just atetons of cereal or what it was,
but like in Jerry's, you'retalking about Seinfeld.
If you look in his kitchencabinet, you'll see boxes all
across.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
He always has a bunch of boxes of cereal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
And I started thinking about other sitcoms and
I remember that in othersitcoms Well, but I think you're
also thinking of all thesesitcoms.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
That was the 90s, I know, but think about how many.
So I mean, I go back towatching cartoons as a kid.
There was Cocoa Puffscommercials, there was Fruity
Pebbles commercials, there wasFruit Loops commercials.
There was like a hundreddifferent cereals and I can
remember the commercials and thelittle characters and all the
little things and it's like, ofcourse, we had a ton of cereal

(01:37:44):
because we were getting itpushed on us like crazy, but I
feel like I don't remember myhouse having like tons, like we
ate cereal but not like hadbunches of boxes, but I think my
grandparents did.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
We had a ton, did you ?
Oh gosh, yeah, we had cereallike crazy Like now if I go buy
a box here, we'll get one or twoboxes.
I probably have six in my, mypantry right now Like, do you
just like say, Hmm, I think Iwant this one today.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Well, it just depends Like the kids like a certain
cereal.
I mean, they like somethingdifferent, amanda likes
something different, so you endup with like five of them and
then, of course, you know asudden they don't like it
anymore yeah so then you've gotthis one here and it's like,
well, they might like it in twodays, so you hang on to it I
mean yeah, I mean we'll have twoor three tops at a time oh no,
and when those are out we'll goget a different flavor different

(01:38:29):
brand or something you know?
we always have probably four tofive different types of cereal,
so is that still a?

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
thing, or is that just from the 90s and you've
kind of carried it over?
Or do you think other people dothat?

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
I.
I mean, I think it probablyjust depends on the age of your
family because, like my, kidsare still young enough that you
know they're.
They're eating breakfast beforethey leave and they're doing
these things.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
So not necessarily that cereal is a great breakfast
, but that is one thing youdon't get up and fix them a
nutrition, nutritional breakfastevery morning a nutritious meal
.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
No sure who's got time for that you're right,
that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
I I mean so, and that's kind of what I meant,
though, with talking abouttechnology and stuff, it's made
it to where we don't have timefor anything.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
No, I mean, but part of that business is now expect
more because of the waytechnology can allow, more
because of the way technologycan allow.
So, like your job now, comparedto 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago,
you were doing infinitely morebecause of technology.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Potential is there because of technology and
computers and I can work fromhome and all this.
My job kind of never stopsright.
I'm always looking at emails,but you're basically always
available.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Whether you really want to be or not, you're always
available, and I wish that issomething as a whole we could
get away from, because even nowI think about it like with the
range at any given time somebodycould need something, so it's
like I have to have thatavailable and ready and I don't
necessarily want that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
I agree with that.
I feel a little better about itwhen it's something we own.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
No, so I agree with that, but it's it's just more of
like again, and we're we'reguilty of it too.
We talked about, you know,automation.
We talked about, you know,compared to having somebody,
realistically, if we had someone, a attendant, on site at all
times, none of those callsmatter.
I don't have to get this call.

(01:40:28):
But hey, this and this and thisis happening, whoever's there,
it's just dealt with.
So that's the thing is.
We made it, you know, quoteunquote, better in ways, but
then it just causes a differentthing.
Well, so we don't want we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
We're saying like we're, we're kind of always
available and in right.
We don't want that, but at thesame time, like, let the
restaurant down the street closeat seven and not be able to
weekend, so they can be at homeand we're gonna be upset highly
upset, like why are?
You not open absolutely, and soit's kind of forced everybody
to be open like that, becausewe've got local restaurants that
close it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
But to me at that, at that point I I think it depends
on what the field is like yourjob commercial estimating.
Why do you need to be availableSaturday, sunday?
I don't, I'm just no, I get itand I understand that, but you

(01:41:27):
also have it.
It's always handy becauseeverything comes to your phone,
everything.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
I think I feel like I'm always so far behind that
I'm just always.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
I even just think like even if you're level you're
caught up.
You're where you need to be.
Level you're, you're caught up.
You're where you need to be ifyour boss sends you an email on
saturday, you have your phone onyou anyways, yeah, I'm gonna
check it and you may end updoing something and it's, and
it's not that even he's saying Iexpect you to do this.

(01:41:56):
It's just, we just do that, yeah, whereas like the restaurant,
the service they provide, it'slike, okay, maybe you should do
it a little bit more.
I'm not saying that thosepeople shouldn't be able to be
off with their family, it justmeans you need to hire more
people to cover those.
So I'm not saying those peopleshouldn't, you know, too bad for

(01:42:16):
you.
You don't get to do it, youknow.
I think it just depends on theprofession, the field that that
kind of dictates a little bit ofthat as well.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
No, I get that completely.
It just feels like as a whole,like you said, we're all always
available for something.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Fast pace.
Yeah, I mean, technology hasmade life way faster than what
it used to be, and I thinkthat's partly what attributes to
we've talked about this beforethe amount of anxiety and and
stress that all these peoplehave because everything is

(01:42:57):
always available, there'severything at your fingertips,
like that's not always a goodthing.
Sometimes it's good to justkind of be in the dark of things
.
I do say.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
I get bored easy and I get that.
So if things weren't as fastpaced, I'd probably be bored all
the time.
But here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
When you were a kid, you still got bored all the time
, but you just went and didsomething different, Like it
wasn't.
It wasn't Like it wasn't.
You know we're looking at ascreen or we're watching
something.
It was like we went and did anactivity or we went and did
something else, but life as awhole was still way slower.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
Yeah, good times.
Right, are we getting to bethose old men?

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
No, I mean I don't even think it's about, like you
know, talking about the good olddays, you know the glory days
or whatever people want to callthem.
I think it's more of just thereare certain things that do
attribute to the faster pace orthat, you know, I don't think
anybody really thinks that thefaster pace lifestyle is better.

(01:43:58):
I just think that everybodyjust recognizes that's what it
is, that is what it is.
It's what it is and we can'treally change nor control or
anything with that.
So, yeah, I don't again,there's no fix for that.
I think it's just going tobecome more fast-paced.
I think things are going to getmore filled.
I don't know what that lookslike but yeah, I don't either.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Curious to see because, like like you said,
it's went through every.
Every person has seen changesthroughout their life that they
never thought they'd see, sowe're gonna see them too, so
we've already seen changes, butI don't.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
When I look back at like maybe not necessarily my
parents, but that generationbefore them, not necessarily my
parents, but that generationbefore them we kind of had it
easy for the most part as far astechnology goes, because we've
kind of always had it in ourlives Like we we've mentioned it
before Like it wasn't when Iwas in elementary school, like

(01:44:56):
we didn't have computers.
The same way, like it wasn't inevery, like it wasn't a laptop
and every person saying like itwasn't like that.
But you think about that groupthat's like 80 right now.
Oh yeah, the change thatthey've seen from the time they
were young kids to now and thedifference in those ones that

(01:45:16):
kind of learned it quickly andthe ones that never figured it
out.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
We probably should take it easy on them when it
comes to technology.
We get frustrated with them.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
sometimes there's a few of this older group that,
like they know it better thanmost.
Like they are, that's somethingthey enjoy.
So it's really in that.
But there's a lot that it'slike why can't they understand
that they didn't haveelectricity in a lot of these
places?
But I literally mean that in arural area like this, that age

(01:45:45):
there was a lot of these peoplethat didn't have running water
in the house and we're saying,well, they should be able to use
a computer.
The fact that they know what acomputer is is impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
But are we getting to that age, too, where we're
starting to not understand someof the things like our kids do?
To not understand some of thethings like our kids do?
Are we there?

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
yet.
No, but I don't think we we'venot seen any drastic change to
like that.
Like technology has not madesome crazy drastic difference,
Like we can still do all thatstuff.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Because we were raised and grew up in it.
Our three-year-olds can handleelectronics, but that's just
because they started sooner.
No, I'm with you there.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
For them.
Their entire life it's been attheir disposal.
We didn't start getting.
I mean I got my first laptopbefore I went to college.
Yeah, I don't even know.
So I mean, now I had, like wehad a family computer at home,
but like that was a thing.
You had a family computer.
You didn't each person have one.
Now everybody's got a laptop,everybody's got a phone,

(01:46:46):
everybody's got all these things.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
It's at your disposal .
I remember having to go to thelibrary to use computers because
we didn't have one at home.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
I can remember the old dial-up at home.
Can't use the phone at the sametime.
You can't.
I don't think I ever had it atmy house, but horrible that I
can still remember the noisewhen you pick up the phone and
you'd hear the line.
It's like why we ever thoughtthat was a good idea because
you'd have a home phone.
That's the only way you could doit, I guess, but you'd have a
home phone and you'd haveinternet, but you could only do

(01:47:13):
one of them at a time.
Yep so, but I mean I canliterally remember going to the
computer and every time you'dhave to hook up to the internet,
like you couldn't just alwaysbe on.
Where now all of our stuff isconnected to Wi-Fi literally all
the time, like we neverdisconnect it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
That's so we can be tracked all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
Don't get me started.
I know that's why I said it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
You'll get us down a rabbit hole that we don't have
time, for it is way too late toget you on a rabbit hole.

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
Yeah, because that oof I got some things to talk
about on that but I'm not goingto go there, because that could
be its own show Are you on the5G train?

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
Um what?
5g causes cancer or whatever.
It is that a lot of thesepeople think.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
No, I mean I.
I mean I think technology as awhole.
I think phones are horrible forus, I think they probably cause
cancer.
I think that's a whole separatething.

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
I don't know if we know what causes cancer.
To be honest, with you Iscancer real?
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I don't know about thatone.
Yeah, let's leave that one foranother day.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
That's not a thought I have, but it's literally like
with everything, someone hassome type of thought or
conspiracy on it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
You know, we actually call ourselves a sports podcast
.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
We do, we talk sports , we talked about sports for a
while.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
There's not a whole lot going on in sports right now
.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Well, so here's the problem You're in the first
round of the NBA playoffs.
You can lose the championshipnow, but you can't win it yet.
It's important, but not beinghuge NBA fans.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
How many teams are in the first round of?

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
playoffs, now Eight ten it feels like 400.
I don't know Well.
So the thing is, technicallythey have these play-in games.
It's kind of part of theplayoffs, so you get like nine
or ten that have potential to bein, but you have eight from
each side.
So 16 teams that's too, many.
We say 16 is too many and wejust had a 64-team March Madness

(01:49:11):
.
That we love.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
Well, no, so I even mentioned that with Will.
I love all the games, but Ihate the one-game playoff thing
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
So for a tournament it's different To playoff thing
like that.
So for a tournament it'sdifferent.
To me the playoffs don't feelTheoretically, by the way they
put up the bracket, it is atournament.
But when you dictate it as aplayoff in its playoff series,
that's very different.
That's a very different thing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
So we got 16.
Now let's cut that to eight.
I'm good with that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Well, I mean I've said before I don't feel like
you should be allowed in theplayoffs if you did not win more
than half of your games.
Like that blows my mind.
Theoretically, you could have achampion that lost more than
half of their games from theregular season, so what is their
?
That blows my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
There's 32 teams right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
Yes, so we're taking half of them.
I think so Somewhere in there.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
Give me the top four of each side.
I don't need the top eight.
I don't need the team thatfinished middle of the pack.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
I don't need top four from each side, just give me
the top eight.
Okay, so you?

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
don't care about that's hard because they didn't
play the same teams the NBA does.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
Do they all?
Do they all play each other?

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
I don't know if they play the same amount of times.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
They don't necessarily play in the same
amount of times because of theway they do their divisions, but
you could, theoretically, ifthey did away with some of that,
you could make everybody playeach other the same amount of
times.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
Yeah, oh, if you did that, I'm all for it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
To me, if, the way it works, you want to see the best
teams, then East or Westshouldn't matter.
I'm with you, let's do it.
I mean, if that's the way youwant to do it, I understand why
you have East, why you have West, I understand all that, but I
just, if we truly want to seethe best win, give your best.

(01:50:58):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:50:59):
Be done.
If we were running these sportsorganizations, we would have
every sport fixed.
They just need to listen to us.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
Fixed is a rough term to talk about in sports.
I don't know if you want to gowith that word.
I'm telling you we got ideas.
Fixed means Vegas would beafter you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
We know what the people want.
Because, we are the people.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
I don't know that I care what the people want.
I just know what I want, that'swhat I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
We are the people.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
I think you would have a drastic difference from
casual fan to true fan, to likethe in-depth, like big-time fan
and the casual fan, because thecasual fan doesn't really know
what they want.
They're okay with what's goingon now.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
That's why they do it , you know.
You know when your team is outyou kind of don't care as much,
so they don't want so many teamsout like you.
Still want fans to care andwatch and well, you wait, you,
they want.

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
So to me, the hard part with nba, you are letting
half the league into theplayoffs.
16 of 32, like it's half theleague.
Simple, that seems like a lotcollege basketball we're.
We're like, well, it's 64 of300 and some odd division one
teams.
Like it's a big difference.
Percentage wise, you're talkingmuch, much lower, so that's why

(01:52:12):
to me it feels different.
So, realistically, if you have32, I'd be okay with eight.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
Like your top eight.
So it's, you know, Like yourtop eight.

Speaker 1 (01:52:19):
So it's, you know, a fourth of them.
Yeah, Half is just a lot.
I mean, that's a lot of teams.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Because you're more than likely not going to get a
team definitely not under 500.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
You know fans wouldn't want a third of them
because that's not more than afourth yeah, yeah, Like you know
can't do those things right, Ithink I'd rather have a fifth.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
A fifth is bigger than a fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
Well things right.
I think I'd rather have a fifthis bigger than a fourth.
Well, I mean, we'll just doeight and 18th.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
I mean like, oh, an 18th, yeah, that's huge, we're
just getting there 18 is biggestright that's how that works
yeah, that's the way peoplethink.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
Yeah, I'm with it, okay, I mean, as long as we're
on the same page there, becauseyou can't, you just can't do it
that way, no, so I mean, I thinkand I'll say this kind of,
across every sport We'll justtalk about NBA or college
basketball Across every sport,it should almost be
percentage-based.
This percent should get inBecause, like with basketball,

(01:53:13):
16 is a lot.
And I know again, like you said, I know why they do it.
It's about money.
It's about, you know, the moreteams we let in, the more money
we're going to make off of it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
So I get that, but it's just not fun.
You got my brain going now.
Okay, I know half means half,right.
Sure, I know that's what theword means.
But why don't we just say asecond?
Because we say a third and afourth and a fifth.
Why don't we just say it's asecond of it?
Why do we have to change theword?

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Per the English language it.
Why do we have to say, why dowe got to change the word per
the?

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
english, english language.
That doesn't make sense, I know, but see, so you could say a
quarter and that still means afourth.
So why can't we say half andalso say a second?
I'm gonna, I'm bringing, I'mgonna start saying a second, no
more half you're just gonnasound dumb no one's gonna know
what you're talking about well,maybe they should.
We can't just go changing wordsjust because we want to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Like you're doing right now.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
No, that's how we got here.

Speaker 1 (01:54:08):
No, but like that's not a term that's used so Well,
we're going to start, I'm goingto start.
Listen, it's the Englishlanguage.
Every couple of years we have aword of the year that's a
made-up word.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
Like that's typical.
What happens?
The the webster's dictionaryword of the year, and it's a
word that wasn't a word twoyears ago.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
If nobody's seen it, they need to see the the
comedian on saturday night.
Live um, nate, um, what's hisname?
You?
Know, was it bargazzi yes, andtalk about all the different
words and how we're going to usethe standard system set of
metric and it just I don't knowwhere it came from.
They say english language islike the hardest to learn

(01:54:48):
because of all the it's onestuff that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
It's definitely one of them like you have rules and
then you got a millionexceptions to the rule yeah,
it's like I mean the, the oldone that everybody hears, I
before e, except after C, exceptin these 10,000 iterations.
It's like well, why are they?
Different so why did we makethat a rule?

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
All the words that sound alike but are spelled
completely different.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
That's the sound alike it's they're the same word
, they're there and there.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
Oh no, I'm not even talking about that.
I'm talking of um, I don't know, I have to think of it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
I don't know.
I just think, like English foranyone, that you were trying to
learn English.
You know English your secondthird, whatever language you
know, the way we use so manywords and not even talking about
the slang of each differentarea, but trying to figure out
what's actually meant, or thenyou get into words like colonel

(01:55:45):
there's no R in that word.
Silent letters yeah Right, thefact that there's a silent
letter up front, or the way thatlong letters work for short,
like it's just such a mess.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
So what I was talking about a minute ago was
something like like the worddumb and the word some.
You would think they'd bespelled similar and they're
nothing close.

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
But you, you look at the word bum, the word dumb the
word it's like there's a millionof those.
It's like this is this shouldbe one letter different.
In reality, each one of thoseeither has a, an e or, like some
and some.
You don't know what I'm talkingabout until you get context
clues s-u-m or s-o-m-e, like andthat doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
The other one that gets me is the ph.
We got a ph to make an f sound,didn't they know we already had
the letter F?
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
We didn't need that, I don't know.
So you get into like a CH Makessense, like that's a different
noise yeah, it does.
Sh a different noise.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
I'm all for that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
TH a different noise.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
We don't have any letters that have those noises,
ph and F.

Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
Yeah, those are the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Somebody said we're going to put a P-H together to
make the F sound.
And somebody else was like.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
See, but that to me is, and I don't know, because I
don't look into phonetics and Idon't look into all that stuff.
I don't Phonetics.
Listen, you know the vocabs.
We're not.
We're not gonna question that'sbeen on your toilet paper this
morning.
No, I ran out of that, um, butthat's got to be, and I don't
know why I'm gonna say this, butit's gotta be like french or

(01:57:24):
something.

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
It's gotta be something weird, like I mean, we
did kind of put a bunch ofstuff together because?

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
why?
Because again you have steven,there's a V or a PH, that PH
don't make that same noise.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
No.
But then I see somebody's namewith a PH and to me it should be
Stephan.
If you're going to make it an Fsound, yes, but no.
If you have Stephan, you got touse the F not the PH, there's a
million different ways.
Now, names are unique becauseyou can spell names.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
It can be whatever it it wants you can spell whatever
you want, and it says this andit's like well, that's not how
it works.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
But yes, you can do it, but trying to teach your kid
how to spell the word phone andtell them, no, don't use an f
right, sound it out well, I ambecause that's that's what
they're like well, yeah, justsound it out, you'll figure it
out.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
Not with words like that, like it's all you're
always gonna put yeah, it's an fand it's no, you're wrong yeah
yeah that, that one in in thesilent letters.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
That's my two biggest .
I mean there's a lot of epicsin the english language, but
well, but, like I said, that'snot even counting.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
You start getting into any kind of slang, any type
of shortened word, any type of,you know whatever, and then,
especially in america, regionaldialects.
Yes, the south compared to thenorth compared to the midwest
compared to all over I mean, andeven then that's not even
talking about just how they sayit.

(01:58:50):
They use a different word for it.
So then now you have to knowwhat this is in, like 10
different words.
Yeah, like in my mind, whatcomes?
What really I think about?
Like wisconsin, michigan, someof those areas they call things
so like that don't even makesense.
Like you go up the street hereand there's a red, yellow and

(01:59:13):
green thing that shines what doyou call that?

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
Well, you know what most people call it.
It's kind of stupid.
We call it a red light.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
A red light, a stoplight Like that's.
I've heard those things.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
It's technically a traffic light.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
It's a traffic light, right.
Some of those areas up thereare called a stop-and-go light.
That's too much.
That's what I'm saying.
So right there, we just saidlike what?
Four or five differentiterations of what that is.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
The fact that we call it a stoplight is kind of weird
, because it isn't just a stopLike it is a go light too.

Speaker 1 (01:59:41):
So I mean yeah, but the thing is, we only pay
attention when it's red, wedon't care when it's yellow or
green.

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
Yellow and green means go as fast as you really
pay attention to it.
Even my three-year-old's likeit's red.
You gotta stop, dad, and thegreen go well.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
So if you remember my , my oldest, when he was little,
it was red means stop, greenmeans go, yellow meant watch out
.

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
Couldn't tell you where you learned that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:07):
But yellow was watch out.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
It's like it means watch out, because somebody like
me saw yellow and spit up.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
You floor it and yellow watch out for the stuff
behind you or the stuff besideyou.
So yeah, I don't really know.
It's like you said, Englishlanguage is super, super
difficult, Makes no sense, butit's what we got.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
So I'm going to start saying second, and I'm not
using the PH as an F anymore,I'm putting an.

Speaker 1 (02:00:37):
F in its place.
Don't care, how are you goingto?

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
control that when I write it, if you, if I write the
word phone down, I'm puttingthe f when you write your, your
writing is gonna look so badbecause of everything that
people know and you're gonna bethe one that's like nope, no
more phs.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
I am boycotting the.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
P-H, boycotting P-H.
We're done and I'm going tostart boycotting silent letters.
No more, no more.
If I write the word knife down,it's going to say N-I-F-E.
I don't need no K, no K.
I'm done with it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
I'm going to write the word.

Speaker 2 (02:01:16):
So when we write saying that David is dumb, we
can't put the B on there, notunless you're going to say it
that way.
Then you're going to sound dumb.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
Dumb.
You say it that way because theB is silent.

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
No, no, you either got to say the B or you got to
get rid of it.
Dumb yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
Sounds even worse Horror being out here.
We've got one light on at thispoint.
The ganats are really bad, theganats.
Yeah point, the ganats arereally bad.

Speaker 2 (02:01:39):
The ganats yeah, oh, it's so there may be an opossum
over there.
The, uh, the pano, what's thatpanomia?
I can't even say the wordpneumonia is what you're trying
to say.

Speaker 1 (02:01:48):
Yeah, whatever, I don't even know how to say it
with the kids because it wasfunny.

Speaker 2 (02:01:51):
But or bologna, you know you eat a bologna sandwich.
Yeah, I'm just gonna startsaying them if you're gonna put
them there.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
I'm gonna say them well, but the thing is like
bologna, like that's what it is,it's just shortened slang.
Bologna, like that's that'swhere that comes from.
Well, which there's probably alot of people that are like what
are they talking about?

Speaker 2 (02:02:11):
I drive a chevrolet.

Speaker 1 (02:02:13):
So that's one I'm actually surprised hasn't been
changed over the years.

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
It's French too, ain't it or something?
Is that where that lay comesfrom?
L-e-t.

Speaker 1 (02:02:22):
Something like that.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
It's all Latin-based whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:02:26):
Again, I'm not an English major, Don't claim to be
.
I didn't stay at a Holiday InnExpress last night.
That's an old callback.

Speaker 2 (02:02:34):
Most people don't claim to be.

Speaker 1 (02:02:34):
I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Speaker 2 (02:02:36):
Most people don't know thatjoke.
That or we'll leave the lighton for you.
That's the two I think of.
That's true, I forgot aboutthat one actually.
Yeah, yeah, that was good stuff.
You know, I can tell it'sgetting late because I'm
starting to get cold.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
It's usually yeah, but here lately you're cold all
the time.
I don't like cold weather, butit's like 65.
There's no sun shining.
Oh, I'm sorry, I lied, it's 64.
See.

Speaker 2 (02:03:04):
That's not cold.
If it was 65, I'd be warm.
64, it's cold.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
That's kind of how you are with golf 64.

Speaker 2 (02:03:12):
During the day, sun shining, it feels great.
But at night, when the sun'sdown at 64, it feels chilly to
me.

Speaker 1 (02:03:18):
It feels the exact same to me right now as it does
Like I've not noticed anydifference from the time we
started.
From now Like it feels prettymuch the same.

Speaker 2 (02:03:26):
Do we get colder as we get tired at night?
Like does it change?
Yeah, your body temperaturelowers when you sleep.
Have you ever noticed late atnight the level you put your TV
on, like during the day, likeyou'll crank that thing up, and
it doesn't feel that loud.
At night you put it on like twoand it feels like it's
screaming at you.

Speaker 1 (02:03:44):
Well, that's just because there's less things
happening.

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
I know there's less noise.

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
I don't know You're trying to drown it out.

Speaker 2 (02:03:51):
So you go up, but it feels like even during the day,
like there could be nobody in myhouse and I'll have the tv on.
I don't know.
12, 15, whatever you know, atnight 15 it's like yelling at me
.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
We're not gonna talk about what I have the tv on.

Speaker 2 (02:04:02):
It's got to be much louder yeah, your tv's probably
like 98 or something.

Speaker 1 (02:04:06):
No, it's no, and I mean not anymore.
Using the those headphones hashelped a ton.
I mean it's it's all like sixand it feels like it's loud.
Yeah, like it's it's easy, butyeah, so I mean late at night, I
mean your footsteps feel loudAll of a sudden you're, you put

(02:04:26):
a dish in the sink and it's like.
Oh, I know, and Adam bomb justwent off Like Just everything
sounds so much more, buteverything's so quiet at that
point.

Speaker 2 (02:04:37):
When you get little kids, it's even worse because
you're trying to keep themasleep.

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
Well, not even talking about that side of it,
but with kids there's never aquiet moment.
There's always some type ofnoise, whether it's them or a
toy, or just the hustle andbustle of everything.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
So then all of a sudden, when kids are completely
asleep out, it's that quiet,it's like.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
It's like the old saying you can hear a pin drop.
Yeah, I mean pretty much like,but again that pin would sound
like you dropped an anvil,because it's like, oh my gosh,
if I wake them it's gonna be wayworse.

Speaker 2 (02:05:12):
Yeah I get it, I get it.
Yeah, we once again wentthrough a bunch of stuff a
little bit of sports, a lot ofother stuff if you've been with
us for any amount of time.
This is just ordinary it is,but again, it seems like people
are more interested in therandom stuff than the other
sports.

Speaker 1 (02:05:33):
I mean, if you're listening and you agree with
them, let us know.
Let us know if not and you say,get back to sports, we'll do
that too, we'll think about it.
I mean, when I say I will dothat, it's the same thing.
I tell people out here all thetime we have a uh, suggestion
box.
I don't know if you knew it'sthat trash can right there.
Oh, okay, I point to that allthe time.

(02:05:54):
Oh, if you have suggestions.

Speaker 2 (02:05:55):
Comments concerns put it in that black box right
there, a notepad on top of thegarbage, can oh, I have a
picture I printed.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
It says suggestion box and I just haven't brought
it to put it on there.
So, yeah, I've been tellingpeople that for a while and I'm
like, oh, you think we should dothis if you'll write that on a
suggestion and put it rightthere yeah, there's a slot right
there there, there's actuallyfour.
There's one on each side.
You can gladly just put itright in, it's what you want,
and then I'll put it in thebigger suggestion box a little
bit later, you know, aka thegarbage.

Speaker 2 (02:06:22):
Yeah, we bag those up and put them out there in the
other box until we can get tothem.

Speaker 1 (02:06:25):
Well, we will say one last thing before we close.
We know we missed a week.
We missed a week.
We had some technicaldifficulties.
Technically, I couldn't find mycomputer, so that was the
difficulty.
So that's that's what, that'swhat kind of, so not totally,
but and then we're in that timeof year where you're coming out

(02:06:48):
of the the slow winter and allof a sudden, just everything
hits.

Speaker 2 (02:06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:06:51):
So you just kind of got a little bit stuck.

Speaker 2 (02:06:59):
So it everything hits , yeah.
So you just kind of got alittle bit stuck.
So it's like we'll be back onschedule very soon, one day we
have in mind to record and thenwhen something happens.
We're scrambling to try to putit back together.
And yes, then when we had it,we thought we had to figure it
out.
Tyler, all of a sudden didn'thave his computer, so um yeah,
yeah, just you creatures ofhabit.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
And it got put in a spot that it shouldn't have been
in, and not that it was like awrong spot, it was just like I
never put it there.
So then it's like, oh, I can'tfind it.
So, yeah, but again, thank youguys for being with us.
We will be on a set schedulemuch better as we move forward.
We've got some things.

(02:07:32):
Yeah, I mean, it'll be within,within reason much more than
than what we were, but, um yeah,we've got some fun things
looking forward to happening inthe next.
I want to do some more bracketswe've talked about some other
brackets yeah, I, I meanhonestly I think the one I want
to do next is a sitcom bracket,like we've started talking about
some different sitcoms and forme it means I get to go back and

(02:07:52):
watch some of those.

Speaker 2 (02:07:53):
I'm like, yeah, let's do that, let's do it because I
want to catch up on some ofthose, but that to me is
probably gonna have to be alonger running thing.

Speaker 1 (02:08:02):
Oh yeah, because it being able to actually watch
some of that, it's just so much.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
I think we need 64 of them, I don't know that I can
name 64 sitcoms probably not, Idon't know.
There's probably more than wethink.

Speaker 1 (02:08:16):
Oh, I guarantee there is, but I definitely don't have
64 I like.

Speaker 2 (02:08:19):
I don't either and a lot of the newer stuff that's on
, like you know, HBO and thosearen't sitcoms.

Speaker 1 (02:08:25):
That's different.

Speaker 2 (02:08:26):
Well, that's true.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
I guess a lot of new sitcoms are sitcoms Like a lot
of this sitcom currently, thatis a much older style.
Not many people are doing stuffin front of studio audiences,
not like.
It's just not how things aredone anymore.
It's easier to do it other ways.
So yeah, I mean obviously, ifwe do sitcoms, probably 90 if
not more are going to be 80s,90s, early 2000s yeah, I can't.

(02:08:51):
Imagine much current, becauseit's just not the way they do
things.

Speaker 2 (02:08:54):
I can think of two or three right now that I like.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:08:59):
Well, I say yeah there's some that are still made
, but they're not going to be onthe list of these are some of
the best.
So yeah, I'll definitely reachout to Brad because he'll have
some suggestions, because he'swatched literally everything.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
Can it be animated that a sitcom?

Speaker 1 (02:09:18):
animated like the simpson.

Speaker 2 (02:09:19):
That's not a sitcom where do you count simpsons, as
it's a tv show.
There's a tv show okay, yeah, Imean.

Speaker 1 (02:09:25):
I mean it's not really a sitcom, it's kind of
like well, because I mean, likea sitcom's got to be for the
most part live, live audienceOkay, like that's.
I mean that's part of kind ofpart of the way I feel that
usually usually happens, gotcha,okay.
But we'll start putting some ofthat together so we'll text

(02:09:51):
Will and get him thinking ofsome things also.
He'll probably have the sameones we have, but he's a little
younger so maybe he'll have adifferent take on this.

Speaker 2 (02:09:59):
That's kind of my thought he probably will.
Yeah, yeah, when his mom emailstomorrow, let her know that it
wasn't our choice not to havehim on tonight.
I'm not answering that.
You've got to answer that one.
I don't want to have to dealwith her.
Okay, so she's tagged.
Did you think he was mean towill on?

Speaker 1 (02:10:18):
the show or something .
Um, she told me that I didn'tin in her words.
I didn't make him shine asbright as I should.
Okay, he wasn't.
And I asked how you makesomething so dull shine so
bright?
And and she didn't like thateither.
So I'm kind of in the doghousethere.

Speaker 2 (02:10:40):
So I'm going to let you deal with her for a bit.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
I don't know.
I'll have to like figure out away to get on her good side
again.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:10:49):
We got all those emails wanting him on the show
and how great it was.

Speaker 1 (02:10:53):
I know so after like 15 emails, you finally like, oh
my gosh, just do it.
Yeah, so, um.
Sorry, I didn't say that will'smom, um, but everyone but
will's mom.
Thank you for listening and wewill see you guys next week.
Thanks everybody, thankseverybody.

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